Re: [Dorset] OT: Google Maps 8-bit for NES
Happy April Fool's day. On 01/04/12 08:28, Terry Coles wrote: This is interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rznYifPHxDg -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-04-03 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Tonight's meeting
On 06/03/12 23:17, C A Wills wrote: A well attended meeting with approx 13/14 persons present. One topic came up where I sat, about manipulating PDF's:- PDF-Shuffler 0.5.1 is one I used last week to combine 2 A5 pdf's into one. Has GUI front end, simple, can delete pages, Import export. Looks a good app, Fedora users :- sudo yum install pdfshuffler -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-03-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Wireless Version of Wireshark; Android is Linux?
On 20/11/11 09:39, Peter Merchant wrote: First, As android is based on linux, can I ask a question about it here? My Android wireless tablet (Archos 70 @£99) seems to be doing UDP floods on to my router. Has anyone experienced similar? Second, I want to know if it really is the tablet, so am considering putting wireshark on the laptop. It looks like a standard package, but though there is an 'Airpcap' driver for Windows versions, I don't know whether it will work on wireless under linux. Does anyone have any experience of this? LUGs are about promoting all things Linux and Android is now a major player. It probably will work fine under Android and wireless but have you tried running netstat as root to see what the tablet is doing? netstat -aunp udp0 0 0.0.0.0:19000.0.0.0:* 26926/amarok udp0 0 192.168.1.108:49152 0.0.0.0:* 26926/amarok udp0 0 0.0.0.0:514 0.0.0.0:* 1155/rsyslogd udp0 0 192.168.122.1:530.0.0.0:* 2127/dnsmasq udp0 0 192.168.1.108:530.0.0.0:* 1633/named udp0 0 127.0.0.1:530.0.0.0:* 1633/named udp0 0 0.0.0.0:67 0.0.0.0:* 2127/dnsmasq you can repeat for TCP netstat -atnp From the list you might be able to determine what process is causing them and turn it off/remove if not used. John. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-12-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Dennis Ritchie has died
On 13/10/11 18:21, Sean Gibbins wrote: On 13/10/11 17:05, Terry Coles wrote: I have nothing specific against Steve Jobs, but I would assert that Dennis, along with Ken Thompson and Brian Kernighan contributed far more to the world of software and computers than Steve ever did. But he didn't make shiny objects of desire, and sadly it's the baubles that interest folk not the stuff of substance. Sean This sentiment is repeated on the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15287391 -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-11-01 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Terminal that can do ANSII
On 12/10/11 16:37, Terry Coles wrote: Paul at work (he who turns up at the Meetings) asked me if I was aware of a Terminal program in Linux that understood ANSII codes. I've never had to do this, so I said I'd ask on the list. Any ideas? I have used minicom to connect to my Sun E250 server's serial port. sudo minicom -s will enter setup where you can change the setting e.g. file transfer protocols - ascii serial port setup If you want to connect to a Linux box via serial you need to enable serial console on it :- http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-serial-console-howto/ John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-11-01 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Help with /home
On 07/05/11 10:25, Peter Merchant wrote: I need some advice on how to do this without cocking it up. When I built the new system from scratch, I let it put home in the same partition as root. I found instructions for moving it to a new partition: http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/ that seem to be straightforward. When I investigated, I discovered that my sda7 had all the home stuff from my previous build. So I didn't remember that I had done this already. Can I just use the steps from renaming my current home to old_home, editing fstab as per instructions, and everything will be OK, or is there more? Thanks for any advice. Peter M. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-06-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue Yes basically. Export you current emails to any folder under / and then logout and logon as root which isn't mount under /home. Rename /home to /home_old. mkdir /home chmod 755 /home Edit you /etc/fstab and add something like this /dev/sda7 /home ext3defaults1 2 assuming it is an ext3 mount -a mount | grep home you should see something like /home on /home type none (rw,bind) ls -al /home should show all your old files. Obviously /home_old is still available to recover any other files. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-06-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Help with /home
On 07/05/11 15:06, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi, John Cooper wrote: Export you current emails to any folder under / Best to avoid /tmp just in case you re-boot for some reason and the machine is set up to clear /tmp on boot. Been there, done that... Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-06-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue I agree, best avoided, though most distros don't wipe /tmp on a reboot. Fedora has tmpwatch installed by default to remove old /tmp files after 30 days (cronjob). -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-06-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Help with /home - Thanks
On 07/05/11 20:54, Peter Merchant wrote: Thanks to John Cooper for his excellent instructions. I have now got back all my home stuff. I haven't been able to get back the last couple of days emails, because I like evolution the way it was before the upgrade and don't want to restore all settings and data. editing fstab - because it is kubuntu I had to do everything via sudo. Kate wouldn't work because /home had disappeared. I couldn't remember the command in vi, so I had to try (and learn) nano. Thanks again. Peter M. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-06-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue I was going to say set the root password but thought it would just add too much info, but if you want to logon as root in Ubuntu, logon as normal then sudo password root Enter your own password (once) Enter the new password for root (twice) Log off and logon as root You are logged on under /root and not /home/root therefore can move /home as necessary. So you can use kate, vi or nano as usual plus any other familiar tools on your desktop. A very good tip is to back up any config file BEFORE editing it, so for fstab, as root or use sudo cd /etc cp fstab fstab.orig Then do your edits. It is surprising how easy it is to mess up the file and corrupt it, so a backup is essential. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-06-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Free Dell SC420
On 17/04/11 17:52, Mark Elkins wrote: John In excellent condition, 80GB SATA, 1GB RAM, onboard video PowerEdge SC420 - SATA - Celeron 326, 2.53GHz/256K, 533FSB~PowerEdge SC420 - SATA - Celeron 326, 2.53GHz/256K, 533FSB Definitely take it off you if still have. Cheers Mark Elkins -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue Now gone to very happy owner. I'm having a clearout so may have more to give away. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Which Linux Distro for old laptop?
On 08/04/11 14:12, Brian R Masterman wrote: Thanks for the advise. The Toshiba Satellite 1000 has a limited memory of 512MB due to the old style DIMMs. I wanted to use Audacity as it allows editing out bits of the recordings and saving as mp3. Had a lot of trouble putting Puppy on it, had to use an old build as the latest would not go on. DSL was a right pain to install. In the end, I decided to flog the laptop to someone who only wanted an Internet browser. (The factory build disks gave MS XP Home - no updates). Linux lost this round. Brian M. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue I'm suprised you had trouble with Puppy. The min RAM is 128MB http://puppylinux.org/wikka/MinReq If you put XP on it, why didn't you install Audacity on that? http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Which Linux Distro for old laptop?
On 08/04/11 14:12, Brian R Masterman wrote: Thanks for the advise. The Toshiba Satellite 1000 has a limited memory of 512MB due to the old style DIMMs. I wanted to use Audacity as it allows editing out bits of the recordings and saving as mp3. Had a lot of trouble putting Puppy on it, had to use an old build as the latest would not go on. DSL was a right pain to install. In the end, I decided to flog the laptop to someone who only wanted an Internet browser. (The factory build disks gave MS XP Home - no updates). Linux lost this round. Brian M. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue I'm surprised you had trouble with Puppy. The min RAM is 128MB http://puppylinux.org/wikka/MinReq If you put XP on it, why didn't you install Audacity on that? http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-05-04 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Which Linux Distro for old laptop?
On 30/03/11 18:46, Brian Masterman wrote: I have an old laptop that I wish to install Linux on with audacity for recording purposes. All the modern distros fail as the are too heavy on ram and disks etc. What I need is to setup an auto-login and startup audacity and allow usb transfer afterwards. (The system is a Toshiba 1000 with 384MB ram 120GB disk) Brian M. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-04-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue Puppy Linux should do it. http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Audacity -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-04-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Openoffice 3.3.0
On 19/03/11 22:48, C A Wills wrote: Noted Tims reply but that's using M$ fonts which are copyrighted, to keep on the 'right side' you have to have 'M$ Word' installed, see above site. C A Wills If you are talking about MS corefonts they are copyrighted but you are free to distribute and use as many copies as you like as long as it contains everything in the release. A very rare case for M$ and they probably now regret it. http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/eula.htm -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2011-04-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Belkin wireless USB
On 20/02/11 11:55, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Peter, I'm taking the liberty of copying this back to the list because the answer may interest some there too. I tried this on my laptop and got this result :- $ lspci -n | grep 14e4 00:0a.0 0280: 14e4:4320 (rev 03) 00:0c.0 0200: 14e4:169c (rev 03) $ 14e4 is Broadcom's id /sbin/lspci -nnv | grep 14e4 02:01.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet [14e4:169c] (rev 03) 02:02.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4318] (rev 02) So your results show a similar output, except 4320 not 4318, so that is the wireless pci card and the other is the rj45 ethernet port. Forgot to say a USB device would be seen using lsusb Ubuntu should automatically work with these devices but if not you could try the manual method :- http://www.omattos.com/node/6 For Broadcom's IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n hybrid Linux® device driver for use with Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4313-, BCM4321-, BCM4322-, BCM43224-, and BCM43225-, BCM43227- and BCM43228-based hardware http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-03-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Nokia announcement
On 11/02/11 20:27, Natalie Hooper wrote: Yes, WebOS is interesting and of course, MeeGo isn't entirely dead but it is a major blow to its future on smartphones (that doesn't mean it won't succeed elsewhere though, notably on netbooks). As for Nokia's decision, it is going to have a major impact on the future of the industry - either it is going to sink Nokia completely or it is going to establish Windows Mobile 7 as a serious contender. A third option would be that Nokia is going to get another CEO in a few months, they are going to get back on their decision, 2011 will be a bad year for them but they will make a comeback in 2012 with a shiny MeeGo and three flagship devices, each in a different price range (This is my dream scenario as I don't want to see Nokia sink, I rather like their non-smart phones, very reliable, and I certainly don't want to see Windows Mobile 7 establish itself in the smartphone market). So far, the reviews of Windows Mobile 7 have been rather good but users haven't rushed to buy those devices, my guess being that too many people have had frustrating experiences with Windows on their computer and do not want to bring these problems over to their smartphone. -- You just have to look at the past to realise on a few can succeed in the computing business. Android is one, Apple another so 3rd place is likely to be Windoz, so Nokia have decided to join the sinking ship thinking they can make it work. They should have gone with Android and maintained their production to make money. I suspect they went with M$ anticipating a patent war against Linux, but this is not going to win as Linux is now unstoppable. Android is now no2, 800% increase this year and manufacturers are finally realising the benefits of a free (as in beer) OS! John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-03-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Fedora 13
On 08/02/11 20:29, Peter Merchant wrote: Hi, I installed Fedora 13 that Tim gave me at the meeting on my big old Dell Precision Workstation 650 this morning and it all went extremely smoothly. It took less than an hour, and is all there, even the wireless USB stick is setup. All I had to add was the WAP code. Didn't take that long to do the 394 updates either. Sooo much faster and easier than XP. Peter Hi Peter, Install preupgrade and update over the network to Fedora 14. It is the best release so far. As root :- yum install preupgrade preupgrade I'm using it at work (BU) and even connecting Thunderbird to a M$ Exchange worked, just enter email address and password, connected! Similar with the printer, enter the IP address and it went off, found it and all configured. If you have a recent processor, install libvirt and virt-manager and you can run visualised OSs. Perfect for working on upgrading a Linux server network :-) John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-03-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] FOSS licensing
Well, this one is one of the great religious debates and I dare say it could go on forever. Just seems to me alot of people see closing F/OSS code as stealing, something I strongly disagree with. Well if it is GPL'd, it is effectively stealing and illegal. I don't see a problem with this, if anyone does, use BSD license. It all depends on what you want to do with the code. If you want people to actively contribute their changes for the good of the software, GPL is there to protect it and ensure those changes are available to everyone (if requested, you must provide the source code). If you don't give a monkeys whether the likes of M$ can take it and use it to lock people in to their software, well license it like Apache and it is then lost in IIS! It is your code, license it as you see fit. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-03-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] FOSS licensing
On 06/02/11 12:13, Robert Bronsdon wrote: well license it like Apache and it is then lost in IIS! ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.apache.org//httpd/ Can you please tell me what part of the Apache/HTTPD has been lost? Please point me at the parts of code that are missing and I will gladly start hacking away on Apache code to get it back. I said effectively stealing as the people who GPL'd the code do not want it to be used and improved in a closed source environment. All the licenses are there to be understood and used as required. If you use GPL, you are saying you want the software to be improved and those changes made available to everyone who cares. Apache code imported and improved in IIS is lost to the community. That is the reality of your views. My view is to use the appropriate license and be glad we have such a diverse choice. That is true freedom. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Wednesday 2011-03-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] PC repair services
On 09/01/11 10:14, Peter Merchant wrote: On another front, A friend using XP had his computer fail. It was in perennial reboot mode. It had 40G hard disk that was full, and I think they had unplugged it to stop it when it ceased to work for them. Thanks to Ubuntu disk I was able to boot the live disk, copy 18 GB of data onto a backup disk of mine, repartition so that there was a data partition, and then once I had sorted out XP, get them back working again. But not for long I fear. Unless they do some data maintenance It will occur again. Can anyone recommend a PC support person/organisation who I can recommend to my friend? Since his retirement on Medical grounds about 18 months ago he has been using friends and his ex-employers IT department to keep things up and running. As a friend I don't want to charge, but also do not want to spend lots of my time sorting him out. His main problem is basically that they do not do any maintenance on the PC's, and his son has stuffed it full of programs like Autocad. Perhaps not appropriate here as it's XP. ( But in my sorting out of his computer it nearly became Ubuntu!) Peter, Shame you didn't suggest buying a bigger hard drive (500GB SATA £35, PATA £70) and also put Ubuntu on for future fixing. I suppose you could still add a second drive and show them how to save all their files there. As far as support, there must be someone local to you and getting them to add a second drive and give advice would be a good test to see how good they are. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2011-01-11 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] cd question
On 22/11/10 18:05, Tim wrote:
I am a cli dunce so please bear with me.
Lets say I am working in the terminal screen in the following folder
m...@computer:~#/folder1/folder2/folder3/folder4/folder5 mv blah blah.
Now I want to go back to work in folder2, what the easy command to get me back
there??
I have to move a lot of files (1 and 2) between a lot of folders and retyping
the full path everytime is wearing my keyboard out!!
Assuming you are using bash shell, add a function to move to the
directory you want in an easy command like cd1
Edit .bash_profile
$ cd
$ vi .bash_profile
Add
function cd1() {
cd /tmp;pwd
}
Save and exit
$ source .bash_profile
Now you can use
cd1
to get you to /tmp or whatever folder/path you want. Add as many
functions as you need.
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Re: [Dorset] Files lost
On 18/11/10 15:05, Peter Jill Harris wrote: Thanks for responses. I'm sure it was rm -rf ~/ .shotwell/Examples. I restored /etc, /home and /usr/local in that order using Simple Backup, the backups were on a separate hard disk. Thanks for offer to assist if I lived in the Poole area John but I live in Swanage. If all else fails I have copies of most of my folders on a separate hard disc but they are not up to date and I would lose all the cataloguing from about 500 photos. Peter, try Knoppix CD, it has Testdisk on it http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk Which can recover lost files, but the more you write to the disk, the less chance of recovering the files. ls ~/ will list your home directory, and as long as you are not root, shouldn't have touch /etc etc. You often see alias rm='rm -i' in .bash_profile for a good reason, especially under root. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Files lost
On 17/11/10 18:49, Peter Jill Harris wrote: Hi All, I seem to have really screwed things up! I was trying to get rid of some unwanted data from a Shotwell database and now all my folders are empty and all icons have gone from the desktop. The command I put in was rm -rf ~/ .shotwell/Examples I got a message telling me it was busy and it seemed to do nothing. I have tried restoring the last complete backup plus incrementals but still no files to be found. Can anyone help please? You have deleted all your home directory. You could have tried booting from knoppix CD and running testdisk to try and undelete/recover the files. This may still be worth trying. How have you restored the backup files? I you are local to Poole could look at restoring them. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph
On 13/11/10 14:39, David Wilkinson wrote: On 13/11/2010 14:29, John Cooper wrote: I suspect if ipv6 was about to be rolled out, all routers will have FW updates to support it. John. IPv6 is been rolled out on quite a few networks, I think the main problem is end user ISP's not rolling out, if more did then we would see more Consumer grade routers get updates to support it. I only knew of the DNS root servers but the wiki page also says Google and Facebook have ipv6 interfaces available. The migration will be painful for ISPs and after a period of dual working they'll have to bite the bullet and turn off ipv4! John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph
On 13/11/10 14:10, Peter Merchant wrote: After reading this article in the telegraph today http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/8126181/UK-will-run-out-of-web-addresses-by-2012.html About Vint Cerf saying that the Uk will run out of IP (V4) addresses by 2012, I wondered if my Router would support IPV6 on the Internet Side. Will yours? My Linksys WAG160 doesn't support it. You have to be careful about predicting when ipv4 addresses will run out as CIDR has been so successful, it could last another 10 years. I suspect if ipv6 was about to be rolled out, all routers will have FW updates to support it. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Somewhere quiet, Bournemouth, ???day 2010-12-?? 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] 10 Things I'd change in linux
On 03/11/10 15:22, Justin Stringfellow wrote: sounds like you need the automounter, then! I dunno if it's the same on linux, but on solaris, the default automount configuration allows you to browse any other nfs server on your network via /net/hostname/nfs_share without prior configuration. Yes, auto.net script (executable map) is part of the autofs rpm in Fedora. $ rpm -qf /etc/auto.net autofs-5.0.5-28.fc13.i686 -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] 10 Things I'd change in linux
On 02/11/10 17:26, Natalie Hooper wrote: I think some of you are really misunderstanding my purpose here. My purpose isn't to diss Linux, or to complain about it, but to constructively throw ideas as to how to improve its user-friendliness. I didn't think it was. All valid questions but some will go away (like rpm and dpkg, replaced by yum and apt-get etc based GUI front ends), some are major differences which Windows users will have to learn and others will develop to be more like Windows. Android will have a major effect on Linux adoption in 2011, just like it has with mobile phones this year. After years of moaning about Linux not being like Windows, it will switch to Windows is not like Android/Linux/Mac. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
[Dorset] Netgear readynas duo, nfs4 and iSCSI target
My icybox died recently and I've just replaced it with a Netgear
readynas duo 2110 1GB disc* . It runs Debian Sarge. I am really pleased
with it. Very easy to configure through the web interface, but it also
has a Linux application on the CD.
I tried to change the NFS mount from v3 to v4 but it would not mount,
operation not permitted.
sudo mount -t nfs4 -o rw,hard,intr,bg backupserver:/ /archive
After adding the SSH addon (see below) and logging on, I had to add
fsid=0 to /etc/exports
/backup *(fsid=0,insecure,insecure_locks,rw,async)
which defines the NFS v4 pseudo-filesystem root (only define one at the
top level). You then only need to mount the root backupserver:/ in v4,
which in my config actually mounts the NAS /backup directory.
I was pleased to find it can run as an iscsi target too. It also has
links to the SSH .bin install file to get SSH access.
http://readynasfreeware.org/projects/nas-iscsi-target/wiki/New_Version
After installing I could not get a response when trying to initiate to
the server
iscsiadm -m discovery -t st -p backupserver --discover
The rc start/stop script /etc/init.d/rfw-iscsi-target needed the OPTIONS
set to the config path -c /etc/ietd.conf, which it should use by
default. It also didn't stop the ietd process so fixed that too.
#!/bin/sh
#
# chkconfig: - 39 35
# description: Starts and stops the iSCSI target
# debianized start-stop script
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
DAEMON=/usr/sbin/ietd
OPTIONS=-c /etc/ietd.conf
PIDFILE=/var/run/iscsi_trgt.pid
if [ -f /lib/init/vars.sh ]; then
. /lib/init/vars.sh
fi
if [ -f /lib/lsb/init-functions ]; then
. /lib/lsb/init-functions
fi
if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/iscsi-target ]; then
. /etc/sysconfig/iscsi-target
fi
RETVAL=0
ietd_start()
{
log_daemon_msg Starting iSCSI Target ietd
modprobe -q crc32c
modprobe iscsi_trgt
start-stop-daemon --start --exec $DAEMON -- $OPTIONS
PID=`pidof ietd`
echo $PID $PIDFILE
log_end_msg $?
}
ietd_stop()
{
log_daemon_msg Stopping iSCSI Target ietd
ietadm --op delete
echo Removing PID
if [ -r $PIDFILE ]
then
cat $PIDFILE
start-stop-daemon --stop --exec $DAEMON --pidfile $PIDFILE
rm -f $PIDFILE
else
pkill ietd
fi
log_end_msg $?
}
ietd_status()
{
PID=`pidof ietd`
if [ $PID ]; then
echo iSCSI Target (pid $PID) is running...
else
echo iSCSI Target is stopped.
exit 1
fi
}
case $1 in
start)
ietd_start
;;
stop)
ietd_stop
;;
restart)
ietd_stop
sleep 1
ietd_start
;;
status)
ietd_status
;;
*)
echo $Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart|status}
exit 1
esac
exit 0
*Novatech £180 with an offer for a free second 1GB disc from Netgear. I
also purchased a new intel i3 laptop with no OS, saving £80 M$ tax.
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Re: [Dorset] OT (ish): Accessing a SparcStation remotely with a graphical interface from a Windows Box
On 19/10/10 09:27, Simon O'Riordan wrote: John, Ran chkrootkit - had a lot of warnings about one application in particular - Eclipse. Otherwise clean. I guess eclipse is just a messy programme. Simono Yes, you will get some hidden directory warnings like Eclipse, it doesn't know about but if in doubt, google it! Great bit of software and after my alert, I did donate to the author. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Despair!
On 18/10/10 12:37, Simon O'Riordan wrote: The new programme stubbornly refuses to work outside the debugger on 10.04. May be an ALSA version problem. Simono What do they say about bad workmen? Something about blaming their tools? What would I know, I don't produce OSS, I just support it :-) -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] OT (ish): Accessing a SparcStation remotely with a graphical interface from a Windows Box
On 18/10/10 18:06, Tim wrote: On Monday 18 October 2010 15:30:49 John Cooper wrote: On 13/10/10 11:08, John Cooper wrote: On 13/10/10 09:38, Robert Bronsdon wrote: On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:26:30 +0100, John Cooper l...@discoverlinux.co.uk wrote: A very secure internal network can still be snooped by a very secure network employee and find your passwords! It really is bad practice/lazy. Just to make my point hit home, from the Certified Ethical Hacker book received today. Which type of hacker represents the highest risk to your network? A. Disgruntled employee B. Black-hat hacker C. Grey-Hat hacker D. Script kiddies Answer tomorrow. All four of them, as a name tag does not legislate for their intelligences or ability. All 4 do define their ability. A kiddie with Black-hat skills is a Black hat. There is one correct answer. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] OT (ish): Accessing a SparcStation remotely with a graphical interface from a Windows Box
On 13/10/10 09:38, Robert Bronsdon wrote: On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:26:30 +0100, John Cooper l...@discoverlinux.co.uk wrote: A very secure internal network can still be snooped by a very secure network employee and find your passwords! It really is bad practice/lazy. Depending on the size of the company (there are limits to this view) but if you can't trust your employees (or your workplace breeds unsatisfied employees who want to harm you) then you've got bigger problems than the access keys to one door. As I say, there are limits here, I can't imagine is some bright black hatter got a job on the till in Lidl they'd feel 100% utilised. FTP and telnet should not be used anywhere these days. They were not built with security in mind. People use them because they are used to them which is no excuse even in so called secure environments. SFTP, SCP and SSH are not difficult to use/setup in basic use, they encrypt the traffic and you know you are accessing the same server each time (like a digital certificate on a HTTPS site). You cannot trust every employee and it is far better not to give them the option of snooping your passwords or file information in the first place. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] OT (ish): Accessing a SparcStation remotely with a graphical interface from a Windows Box
On 12/10/10 17:16, Terry Coles wrote: What we have decided to do is to install cygwin on a little used server on the internal network and use terminal services to get to it via VPN. The server isn't running a firewall and everything will be inside our secure netork, so we think it will work. That's tomorrow's task. Great news. Sounds like a good plan to use the internal network server. Although I don't recommend using telnet to logon (unencrypted, password in clear text), it is great for diagnostics, like telnet ipaddress portnumber, to check you can actually get to the port ( use Ctrl ] to break out then type exit to quit). I've used cygwin a lot in the past where I was forced to use Windoz to get some sort of control back. OpenSSH is a great tool, particularly for securing traffic like X using tunnelling. Saved a lot of hassle where very restrictive firewall rules are applied as you just need SSH port 22 open. Good luck fixing the script ;-) John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Crown Hotel, Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-11-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has TBD for next meeting been D'd
On 01/10/10 23:19, Natalie Hooper wrote: On 1 October 2010 16:09, Peter Merchantmadsmad...@netscape.net wrote: Other considerations: I live in Wimborne, Terry in Corfe Mullen, is it Simono in Fordingbridge or Verwood(?). A few live in Winton/Charminster/Bournemouth? Anyone likely to come from Dorchester? I live in Winton but I don't mind where we meet in Bournemouth area, as long as it's within half a mile from a bus stop with evening buses. Re: Grasshopper pub Actually the if you miss the M1, you'd have to walk up to the Co-op, Ashley Road, to get the M2 (I forgot it goes up North Lodge Road). It is less the 0.5 mile. I'm sure someone would drop you off if required. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Has TBD for next meeting been D'd
On 02/10/10 00:21, Andrew Morgan wrote: On 01/10/10 14:00, Natalie Hooper wrote: Thanks for the link. Looking at the timetable, the evening service is pretty bad. There's a bus (back to Bournemouth) at 20.15 then at 22.15 ( http://www.wdbus.co.uk/uploads/13may10.pdf). And that's it. Not a bus service you can rely on (I don't call having to wait 2 hours for a bus a reliable service). As a public transport user, this makes it a non-goer for me unfortunately. I don't think there's much point worrying about if buses and trains go where you want when you want, from what I've seen they never have and never will. But for anyone who has to rely on public transport don't forget there are plenty of taxis out there and their drivers work all night, and they'll take you from wherever you want to wherever you want without any faffing about between. As far as pubs go I would prefer one out of the towns and cities, and definitely away from any surveillance. Natalie, were you talking about the Grasshoper pub on Bournemouth Road? The M1 and M2 run every 30 minutes each, eg. 21:22, 21:37, 21:52, 22:07, 22:37 approx (Upper Parkstone Co-oop less 7 minutes for St. Osmunds bus stop to Bournemouth). Andrew, as far as surveillance, all pubs have them and anyway, just having a mobile phone on tracks your every move. With the number of fights and damage in town centres, I feel far safer knowing there are cameras around. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Has TBD for next meeting been D'd
On 02/10/10 19:13, Natalie Hooper wrote: Natalie, were you talking about the Grasshoper pub on Bournemouth Road? The M1 and M2 run every 30 minutes each, eg. 21:22, 21:37, 21:52, 22:07, 22:37 approx (Upper Parkstone Co-oop less 7 minutes for St. Osmunds bus stop to Bournemouth). No, these were the times of the bus from Wimborne (this is when the consensus seemed to be that the meet was in Wimborne). -- Forget anywhere outside Poole and Bournemouth for buses. Shame there isn't another Royal Oak like pub here. The pubs are really crap, but I think the Grasshopper is quiet, newly done up, in a good area and plenty of parking. The Winton Wetherspoon's doesn't sound too bad and no music. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] [OT] Mobility Scooters
On 27/09/10 08:01, Sean Gibbins wrote: On 26/09/10 23:57, Adrian Howard wrote: On 22 Sep 2010, at 16:25, Sean Gibbins wrote: On 22/09/10 15:18, Victor Churchill wrote: Hi Sean, My wife has worked at So'ton Uni in the past, and said immediately that you or he should approach the Centre for Assistive Technology, which is part of the University's Student Support Services. I'll try and chase up a website ref. best regards victor Cheers Victor, will get on to that now. The mobility centre in Wareham definitely rents scooters and motorised chairs. They've been great when we've had problems - http://www.purbeckmobility.com/. Just in case the uni takes time to sort. Adrian Hi Adrian, I followed up on Vic's suggestion and got in touch with Access Solent, part of Student Support Services. --cut-- Sean, I noticed a stall in Boscombe market on Thursday selling mobility scooters. Probably cheaper but not sure on warranty! John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Strange Wireless Behaviour
On 27/09/10 20:53, Terry Coles wrote: Hi All, I'm on my travels again; this time on a walking break in North Yorkshire. My digs provides free Wi-Fi so on the first evening, I successfully connected using the WEP key supplied by the landlord. The following morning, Wi-Fi connected as expected, but there was no path to the internet. When I queried this, the landlord said it was working for him and since I was off out, I didn't try any more. However, it connected and worked fine yesterday evening. Today was almost a replica of yesterday, except that in desperation this evening, I deleted the connection from the list, re-entered the key and it worked! So how come? If I'm getting a connection reported, but no path to the internet. I presume that this is something to do with DHCP; I'm certainly not getting an IP address. Why though? And why does it work some times and not others. I can't see how it can be the WEP key since it worked without interference yesterday evening. I tried ifconfig wlan1 up down and that had no effect whatsoever. Is there anything else that might get it up without the drastic measure of deleting the connection? I've had similar problems in the past. 1. Check /etc/resolv.conf as essential to access the t'internet (DNS). It can get overwritten and you loose internet access. 2. Browser cache issues. Restart the browser. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Ring out the bells!
On 16/09/10 21:45, Simon O'Riordan wrote: My HP2133 now has full soundcard support; some bright guy on the fora published instructions and a script to completely rebuild ALSA on the 2133. How about sharing the instructions? -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Source for new Netbook with Linux or no OS?
On 16/09/10 08:24, Terry Coles wrote: Hi, My mother wants me to replace her Asus EEE700 because it's wearing out, the battery is shot and she'd like a bigger display with higher resolution. I had planned to buy her an X10 from Novatech. I'm very pleased with mine, but the mic is very quiet and she wants to use it with Skype, so a netbook with a decent mic is essential. Terry, there should be no problem with any mic. Have you turned on the amplification? alsamixer F4 and see what options you have. Novatech support is excellent so it is worth asking them for advice on the mic. I've only found Novatech who sell without an OS and at a reduced price. Getting your money back from Dell and others is impossible as they have a policy to say the OS is free now which is ridiculous and just a means prevent the hassle of refunds and loss of income. I have an unused EEE PC 1000 SSD that I would sell if any use to you. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Source for new Netbook with Linux or no OS?
If anyone wants a Linux EEE PC SSD I also have an unused one + quality case :- Asus EEE PC 900A Netbook Laptop, Atom 1.6GHz, 16GB SSD, 1GB RAM, 8.9 TFT, Linux £200 incl VAT. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Automate script
On 09/09/10 18:34, Tim wrote: I have a script that lives in a folder called /backup I start from the cli by changing to the backup folder and then typing ./day4 I want to automate this but the schedule program does allow me to quote a start up folder so when I type /backup/day4 or /backup/./day4 It fails to run, What do I need to do to make it run from the schedule program?? Have you tried cd day4; ./day4 -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] SMB or NFS
On 22/08/10 22:10, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Tim, That was my point. It seems anyone could plug a computer to which they have root access (eg a notebook brought in from home) into a network and with knowledge of UID's and GID's with NFS shares on a server they have full access to those. If the server was willing to export to their IP address, then I think you're right. Or if they could turn off a machine that was exported to, and then use its IP address... Any decent sysadmin would know the security risks and know how to prevent root access. Allowing an authorised PC to connect is a cause for concern on any network. DHCP config and arpwatch should ensure all laptops are known/monitored. If an unknown laptop is not immediately flagged up, your security is already pants whether CIFs or NFS. John. -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Bournemouth Pub Meet Tonight, Wed 2010-08-04 20:00.
On 07/08/10 12:45, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Peter, We did have a discussion about other venues, and I suggested teh grasshopper. Any thoughts on it? Anyone know it? http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/12/12158/Grasshopper/Parkstone Looks to have ample parking and bus stops in both directions right outside. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=BH14+9HToe=utf-8client=firefox-aie=UTF8hq=hnear=Poole,+Dorset+BH14+9HT,+United+Kingdomei=kkVdTPfvKYa80gTe2I29Bwved=0CBQQ8gEwAAll=50.724612,-1.935772spn=0.001141,0.006866t=hz=18layer=ccbll=50.72461,-1.935599panoid=j0Myr_rYFiDSNBW5Gh3UTAcbp=12,294.19,,0,1.16 It has recently been remodelled and has a nice modern atmosphere. The only downside is it is a Badger pub and not my favourite brewer. AFAIK there are no buses that go down that part of the road any more, so you'd have to get off at St Osmunds Church and walk back (a few minutes). M1 stops there. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] BAckup software
On 07/08/10 21:32, Keith Edmunds wrote: On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 21:14:14 +0100, andy.pater...@ntlworld.com said: I have been running for years without backups - using the relatively simple notion that raid mirroring is arguably as good as backups NO! It might work for you, which is fine; however, there is a world of difference between RAID and backups. I agree but he may be talking about using raid 1 (mirroring) to swap out a spare disc which is what I do. However unless you do this daily (which I wouldn't advise even if scsi), you still need to backup any changes since the last disc swap out. For this I use a combination of rsync to another system and tar up my complete home directory daily. When I plan an upgrade, I always swap out the mirror disc and ensure the new disc has updated before starting. This has worked well when the upgrade went t*ts up, ensuring a rapid recovery. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-09-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Monitor resolution
On 10/06/10 23:54, Andrew Drapper wrote: I am running Ubuntu 10.04 my monitor is 1280 x 1024 but Ubuntu is only letting me have 1024 x 768. How do I change this in 10.04. I believe it is not as easy as it used to be. no config file to change, or some such. Any tips appreciated. my monitor is not recognised my Ubuntu. My graphics are intergrated on a MSI G31TM-P35 and I have a Videoseven monitor. Many thanks Andrew Drapper You should be able to go to System/Administration/Display and then select Hardware/Monitor Type/Configure and set it to Generic LCD/LCD Panel 1280x1024. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-07-06 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] That's that.
On 29/05/10 13:09, Simon O'Riordan wrote: Fedora is simply dreadful. I'm aborting it. If it was a baby, it would be Eraserhead. Next candidate: Simply Mepis 8.5. It's a KDE, I would rather have Gnome, but I will give it a try. Simono Sounds like a workman blaming his tools ;-) I'm been using Fedora since FC1 and although the upgrades haven't been brilliant at times, F-12 to F-13 was perfect. Initial installs have always been fine. I think you have to take in to account Fedora aims to be the first in many new features which can cause issues working with previous versions, but that goes with territory. It also means you get the best new features to use now. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] That's that.
On 29/05/10 21:46, Simon O'Riordan wrote: I didn't make it swallow 20% of a 250 GB drive just for the root partition; I didn't make the sound fail totally; I didn't make it file a kernel crash report on every, single boot up. So long as the Linubs think it acceptable to produce unreliable, inflexible, dogmatically hindered software that requires a PhD in masochism to put right, they will remain a little people, a silly people Bill Gates has gold. He keeps it in a great box In Redmond... But I know most Fedora users don't have the problems you have had. If they did, Fedora would have died years ago. It is NOT unreliable, inflexible nor requires great skill to install and use. As far as Bill Gates, he has your gold, you are welcome to keep buying him more. That is what silly people do. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Confirmation on up-grading to Ubuntu 10.04
On 03/05/10 19:39, Clive A Wills wrote: I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 and can now up-grade via Update Manager to 10.04 but need to confirm:- I have 3 separate partitions for Ubuntu, Linux swap and /Home. When upgrading the system am I correct that I can just upgrade Ubuntu system (sda3), then point to '/Home' (sda5) when requested ensuring that 'format' is not ticked, without destroying the original /home files? At the moment I don't have enough room to make a separate partition or separate external HD to backup the 'old' /Home to, as it's too big. Clive The network upgrade via Update Manager will sort everything out and stick with your existing partitions. This is the best way to upgrade. However, using a CD to upgrade will require more information but it will prompt you. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Blandford Forum, Tuesday 2010-05-11 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Linux Course
On 02/04/10 22:09, Juan Reyes wrote: Hello all, I'm a novice user of Linux, and I'm thinking to do a course with the Open University called T155. Reading the course content I believe it would give me a good foundation about Linux. Although I have few doubts about this course; Is this a good course to understand linux? Is it worth taking the CompTIA Linux+ certification, once the course has finished? http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/course/t155.htm Thank you very much for you help Kind regards Juan Reyes OU courses are generally very good and this one can be used towards getting a BSc, however if you just want to learn Linux I would just buy a good beginners book with a CD. Search on Amazon and check out the reviews. If you get stuck, ask on this LUG, as that is what they are for. I've just bought a book on LPIC-1 which covers 101 and 102 exams which might be worth taking to get a qualification. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wed 2010-04-07 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Off Topic: SunOS Help needed
On 23/02/10 14:47, d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote: The user admin is listed as the account for installing software and he gets a csh to use. I'm fairly unfamiliar with the csh, so I've had to feel my way around using our reference machine (which is still running SunOS 5.7) to remind myself what we did. Here is what I've found: 1. If I enter ./startloopstop, I get the small dialogue box which gives the user control over the running program. When this is pressed a small file is written to the local directory, which is the signal, via checkforloopstop, to the running test program to exit the loop. This works fine for me. When the customer tries to do this, he gets 'Permission denied' when he types ./startloopstop. What other things could prevent execution, bearing in mind the file and directory permissionsseem to allow anyone to do anything? Remember anyone can run the file but it doesn't mean the programme can write to the directory, so this is most likely the problem. For security, startloopstop should not have write access, so should be set to either 755 or 555. 2. If I open the passwd file, it tells me that the user called admin is a member of the mats group with the following entry: admin:x:500:1208: Administration Account for Installing Software: /home/: /bin/csh (the mats group has the ID 1208.) 2a. Does the x signify that the user has execute priveledge or is that something else? The x signifies the password is kept in a separate file called /etc/shadow (the original passwd format held the actual password in that field but was moved to a different file for security (only root has access to /etc/shadow). 2b. If I type group mats I get permission denied, even when logged in as root. Why is that? I understood that this is a valid command. On Linux and Solaris it is groups matt 2c. There is a file called profile in /etc, is that relevant? It seems to be a script. At the bottom of this file is the single line umask 022. sequence of startup-files for sh, ksh, bash: 1. /etc/profile, 2.$HOME/.profile csh: 1. /etc/.login, 2. $HOME/.cshrc, 3. $HOME/.login 3. In a csh, how do I find where I am? csh all commands are the same as bash or sh, but uses .login and .cshrc instead of .bashrc or .bash_profile when you logon or start a csh. Check if both of these files exists. Path will be set using set path = ($path $home/bin .) 4. In a csh, should appropos work? I can do man apropos, but foobar anything simply lists the paths that it has searched and failed to find man pages. Sounds like your path is not set up. http://developers.sun.com/solaris/articles/man_pages.html#4 -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Dorchester, Tue 2010-03-02 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Cloud Computing - Stallman's take
On 05/02/10 10:56, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Terry, Who can swear that Google or Amazon might not have a similar catastrophe as the years go by? I don't see a problem with web apps as long as the user's aware that they need their own copy of the data in a usable format, and that the site may fold tomorrow with no notice. For instance, if I used Gmail as my mail email client, then I'd look into doing reguarly syncs of the emails over IMAP back to my storage where they'd be backed up. But that's not really any different to running a webmail server myself; I'd still be backing up the data to different places and media, e.g. Amazon S3 over tarsnap. http://www.tarsnap.com/ WRT RAID, it seems the mantra RAID isn't backup is becoming more common now. Cheers, Ralph. We live in the real world and nothing is generally free as companies need to make money. So if you use any companies service, just try to ensure you don't lock your self in. Sometimes you don't have a choice or the alternative is too expensive. It is all common sense, so I use Google because they offer superb web tools for free and it runs on Linux. I accept they use my data/usage to make money in return for a free service. Stallman is increasingly behind the times and lives in a idealists world. Like Communism, sounds great but the actual reality doesn't work. That is why Linux is so successful as Linus Torvalds lives in the real world. If you use Thunderbird email client and IMAP, just ensure you have the synchronising setting on so your messages are stored locally. To check :- Edit/Account Settings (Tools/Account Settings for Windows version) For each IMAP email you have set up check the Synchronization Storage/Message Synchronizing is ticked. Backing up you home directory will ensure all your emails are backed up too. Moving to another email account is a simple drag and drop all you emails from one account to another (or select copy for backups). Thunderbird has the ability to export you emails in most formats to allow migration. Just install the ImportExportTools (Mboximport enhanced) add-on. Local server RAID is not backup, at best is just protects against disk failure. Someone hacking in to your server will have all the damage replicated! However, what is it good for is being able to keep disk backups when RAID1 mirroring is used, especially hot swappable disks. It needs user intervention and a regular swap overs. Any problems, you can have the whole server up and running very quickly. The combination of this and file backups give the most flexibility. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wed 2010-02-03 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Peter's internet problem
On 18/01/10 16:15, Peter Harris wrote: Thanks for your help John. 9.10 is up and running - problem solved. Thanks also to all who offered to assist. Glad to hear that. Always a good idea to have the latest Ubuntu CD available as a rescue CD even if upgrading via the internet. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wed 2010-02-03 20:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Ubuntu manual and cups error
See You in February. There is no Printed manual for Ubuntu. Ask Your questions here, if you can't find them in the Forums or the Ubuntu Wiki Documentation. The Official Ubuntu Book (Prentice Hall) is ok for newbies. eg. In Kubuntu 9.10, I used to have a printer, Laserjet 5M, but it now doesn't work, I have removed it and re-installed it, and checked all the connections, and get There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-document-format-not-supported'. when I try to do a self test. Any body else had similar problems? I suspect one of the upgrades. Peter M. Try :- Uncomment application/octet-stream in /etc/cups/mime.types and uncomment application/octet-stream in /etc/cups/mime.convs. I notice F12 Cups config is different and no longer has these two files in /etc/cups. Try `locate mime.types`. My cups and samba setup :- http://discoverlinux.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=36 -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Dorchester, Tuesday 2010-01-12 20:00 *New date* Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Sorry to say.
On 17/12/09 22:15, Simon O'Riordan wrote: I'm running it on the HP 2133 Mini. That's the one with the Via chipset. Funny thing is, it works fine with the Desktop version; maybe it is optimised to be an 'un-netbook' netbook? Simono I had the same problem on my HP 2133 so I think it is the laptop not UNR. I also run Ubuntu desktop without any problems. John. -- Next meeting: Dorchester, Tuesday 2010-01-05 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Bing versus Google.
On 15/12/09 17:31, Terry Coles wrote: On Monday 14 Dec 2009, Simon O'Riordan wrote: Not sure of the source, but apparently the boss of Mozilla has advised people to switch from Google to Bing over Google Privacy policies. I ran a test; Haar-classifiers are much more accurately found on Bing, but I am not. Simono I can't find the article now, but AIUI, he was misreported. He was asked a question about online security using search engines and he said that he didn't trust *any* engine not to misuse his data. The conversation then moved on to setting up Bing as the default search engine in Mozilla and guess what got reported. Like him, I don't trust any search provider, but I think I trust Google more than I trust Microsoft. I have no evidence for this, other than three decades of abuse from the latter and one decade of 'we do no evil' from the former :-) +1 All search engines use your data whether logged on or not. Google offer fantastic free tools so you can't have your cake and eat it. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Dorchester, Tuesday 2010-01-05 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Editing grub menu config
On 10/12/09 09:32, Peter Merchant wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 18:50 +, Terry Coles wrote: On Wednesday 09 Dec 2009, Peter Merchant wrote: From the LUG meeting last week and the discussion about getting rid of obsolete versions and their partitions, it was suggested that I edit /boot/grub/menu.lst. In Kubuntu 9.1 it looks like the file is grub.lst and the first line is - You must not edit this file Dare I? Well whether you dare or not is up to you, but it's not advisable. 9.10 uses Grub2 and it's configured in a totally different way. Also, there's something funny about it if you previously had an earlier version and upgraded as opposed to a clean installation. We discussed this some weeks ago, I'll see if I can find the relevant post. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux I dared. and the consequences were dire. I edited grub.cfg and took out a couple of menu selections. Rebooted and it wouldn't boot. I had to boot from a bootable CD, navigate to the appropriate place, and replace the edited file with the backup. StartupManager won't edit out some of the selections from the grub menu, so I am still at square 1. Ubuntu 9.10 only installs grub2 (v1.9) on new installs. Upgrades stay with grub1 (known as grub legacy, v 0.9). Help on recovering is here :- http://grub.enbug.org/Manual -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Dorchester, Tuesday 2010-01-05 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Apropos nothing is particular.
On 03/12/09 22:06, Simon O'Riordan wrote: My new 9.10 netbook just gets better. Wireless connection is automatic after the first time. Printer? Just plug it in and it is ready to use. Networking? Sees every linux or windows computer straight away, and mixes wired/unwired networks effortlessly. Now I have one question: How can Microsoft have the absolute, brass-balled, GALL to charge money for their software? The only advantage it still has is the convenience it offers for writing software applicaitons through Visual Studio. Without Visual Studio, Microsoft is nothing. Simono The only thing you need VS is for M$. Linux has far more better development languages for free. USB devices really has been the turning point for Linux. I didn't realise until a few weeks ago my Canon MP780 printer/scanner just works in scanner mode! The final missing link is vendors like Canon porting their software to Linux and then there is no need for Windows. XP really was the high point of M$ and it will take less than 30 years for them to disappear. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] OT: Help Needed - Using OpenOffice to do a T-Test
On 19/11/09 19:20, Terry Coles wrote: Hi, My daughter has to do an assignment at Uni using a T-Test. Although the Uni says that work can be submitted in Either MS or Open Office, they've only told her how to do it in Excel and she only has OpenOffice. Is there anyone out there who knows how to do this or knows how to find out? I never did statistics, so I have no idea what to look for. I found this: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_TTEST_function, but don't really know how to use it. Ideally, she needs a step-by-step guide similar to the one provided by the Uni for Excel. Terry, see this http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=25147 and specifically http://www.ooomacros.org/user.php This is a suite of macros to perform basic statistical analysis within OpenOffice. These macros give OpenOffice Calc the functionality which Analysis ToolPak gives Microsoft Excel, and many of these routines are unavailable in Excel. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Simplic-IT-y
On 11/11/09 20:27, John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: Peter Merchant wrote: News item today on BBC, runs Linux Mint http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8353465.stm I am tempted to put it on my Mother-in-law's Dell to stop the questions about 'How do I do this?, It worked yesterday' Peter M Peter, have you seen any indication that the software is available separately? I'd hope that it would be, but can't find any links. Just install Linux Mint and then add the Eldy interface http://www.eldy.eu/download/ -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Is Linux suffering from Mono ?
Peter Washington wrote: Hi Folks, http://www.technewsworld.com/rsstory/67387.html Discuss. Get the link right first and express you own view for discussion! (I dislike this form of posting) http://www.technewsworld.com/story/Is-Linux-Suffering-From-Mono-67387.html Mono is open source software and allows developers the ability to code for both Linux OS and the abusive monopolist M$. This might smart a bit for hard core fundamentalist free software nerds, but our world is as much political as doing the right thing so fine by me. The more software that is written for both platforms, the more true choice we have. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Dorchester, Tuesday 2009-07-07 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] GRUB GRUB GRUB
Archie Ferrier wrote: Hi Everyone I hope someone can help me with a problem that has just reared its ugly head. When I booted up my Linux box, running Fedora 10, the other day it just displayed the word GRUB over and over. I have booted it with the Fedora 10 disc and I can run grub from the command line but I am at a loss as to what to do next. That is other than re-installing Fedora and losing all my data. I would be grateful for any assistance. Regards Archie Ferrier The correct way to re-write the MBR and GRUB on Fedora is to use the rescue mode. Insert the fedora install CD/DVD and reboot. When you see the boot prompt, type linux rescue (if the GUI appears, hit Escape to get back to the boot prompt) Follow the instructions and accept the defaults. If it finds your Fedora parrtitons it will mount them It then drops in to a shell, type df -kh You should see /mnt/sysimage chroot /mnt/sysimage fdisk -l If disk is hda or hdb etc use grub-install /dev/hda (or whatever it lists, e.g. /dev/hdb) If disk is sd then use grub-install /dev/sda (or whatever it lists, e.g. /dev/sdb) Reboot and remove the CD/DVD This is a more verbose way http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/index.php?/archives/158-System-Recovery-Week-Rescue-Mode-and-Reinstalling-Grub.html -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ irc://irc.blitzed.org:6667/dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-04-01 20:00
