[Elecraft] K3 second receiver sound gone

2009-03-06 Thread Dick Grolleman
Hi All

Thsi happen to me several times now.
Been trying to work a dx staion split, and listen to to second receiver to find 
out where he is working the stations. I do turn off the second receiver, and 
turn it on again. But after doing this a few times, there is no sound anymore 
from the second receiver. I only can get it back by turning off the radio and 
switch it back on

Some on has had this problem before?

running version 2.78 still. Or should I upgrade?

K3 #1168
73 de Dick PA3FQA
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[Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2009-03-06 Thread W2XB

Hello Folks,
 Just talking to a friend that has a K3 also and he was asking why the
signal gets louder with less noise when you turn off the AGC ? I turned
off tha agc when working a weak DX station, and he was right. Made the copy
easier and much louder. What is the technical reason for this?

Don..w2xb
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2009-03-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Kieth is correct if the AGC parameters are set high, particularly the 
slope - that tries to make everything the same volume.  If you can 
recall tuning an AM radio between stations, the noise level between 
stations gets louder because there is no signal to hold the AGC active, 
and the AGC is quite aggressive.

I did not like the behavior of the AGC with the default settings, I 
liked the AGC behavior on my K2.  After seeing the curves produced by 
Jack Smith (Clifton Labs), I changed my AGC parameters to more closely 
emulate the K2.
AGC PLS off
AGC SLP 002
AGC THR 008
AGC-F 140
AGC-S 010

I like my K3 AGC now - weak signals sound weaker than strong ones and 
the noise level does not rise as much.  Your preferences may vary.

73,
Don W3FPR


Darwin, Keith wrote:
 Since AGC automatically turns down the gain when there is a big signal,
 I'd expect that it would make things quiet.  Basically, it adjusts the
 gain to equalize all signals.  Band noise, weak signals, strong signals
 - all are rendered at the same volume level as they come out the
 speaker.  Turn AGC off and the quiet stuff remains quiet while the loud
 stuff gets much louder.  Overall S/N ratio goes way up.

 I run my rig with a combination of AGC on/off.  I turn AGC on (to squash
 any loud peaks) then back RF gain down until the noise background gets
 weak.  Now I have a higher average S/N ratio but still have the
 ear-protection benefits of AGC.

 - Keith N1AS -
 - K3 711 -

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 Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC


 Hello Folks,
  Just talking to a friend that has a K3 also and he was asking why the
 signal gets louder with less noise when you turn off the AGC ? I
 turned off tha agc when working a weak DX station, and he was right.
 Made the copy easier and much louder. What is the technical reason for
 this?

 Don..w2xb
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Re: [Elecraft] MIC + Line-In Feedback Noise

2009-03-06 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Bud, 

Depending on your soundcard you should be able to turn 
off the monitoring so you don't need to change the  
Line In level.  For example, with the SoundBlaster 
Audigy 2ZS, open the Recording Control (input mixer), 
click the Advanced button on the Analog Mix input and 
select Record without Monitoring.  Some Realtek chips 
include the inputs on the output (speaker) mixer but 
they are generally hidden (select Options | Properties 
and show all of the unchecked controls).  You can unhide 
them and make sure the Line In (it may be shown as a 
color) is muted. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



 -Original Message-
 From: Bud Governale, W3LL [mailto:w...@arrl.net] 
 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:48 AM
 To: li...@subich.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MIC + Line-In Feedback Noise
 
 
 Hi Joe,
 
 Thanks for the reply.
 
 I discovered late last night that it was caused by the 
 soundcard Line-In slider position.
 
 At first I tried muting Line-In. However, I soon discovered 
 that N1MM would remove the Line-In mute checkbox each time 
 it played a function key Wave file. The only solution is to 
 slide the Line-In slider to the bottom (zero) and forget 
 about the mute checkbox.
 
 Now I need to remember that when going from SSB to RTTY to 
 raise the Line-In slider position.
 
 73,
 
 Bud W3LL
 w...@arrl.net
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
 To: 'Bud Governale, W3LL' w...@arrl.net
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:19 PM
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] MIC + Line-In Feedback Noise
 
 
 
 If you have a soundcard connected to the K3, it is probable 
 that Monitor is enabled on soundcard Line In which echoes 
 the K3 Line Out back to the K3 Line In.  If you have monitor 
 turned on in the K3 it creates a nice echo chamber.
 
 73,
 
... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 
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  [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bud 
 Governale, 
  W3LL
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:26 PM
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: [Elecraft] MIC + Line-In Feedback Noise
 
 
  Thanks to both Eric K3NA and Rich VE3KI, I now have Line-In working.
 
  That leads to a new related issue:
 
  When MIC + LIN is turned ON I get feedback from somewhere 
 when I key 
  with the foot switch in SSB without saying anything.
  If I turn MIC + LIN to OFF the feedback is gone.
  I closed N1MM just to be sure it wasn't causing a problem. It
  wasn't, the feedback was still there.
 
  Any suggestions?
 
  73,
 
  Bud W3LL
  w...@arrl.net
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Nice 5-band directional gain antenna

2009-03-06 Thread AD6XY

I am glad it works. It is a pity it is so large though. I would love one but
22ft! or 6.7m in diameter is a little too big for normal UK lots. I was
wondering if designing a reduced size version for 10m 6m and 4m might be a
good plan.

Mike 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2009-03-06 Thread W2XB

Thanks for the reply Keith,

 Makes sense. 



Don...w2xb 

 

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From: Darwin, Keith (via Nabble)

Date: 03/06/09 07:56:25

To: W2XB

Subject: Re: AGC

 

Since AGC automatically turns down the gain when there is a big signal, 

I'd expect that it would make things quiet.  Basically, it adjusts the 

gain to equalize all signals.  Band noise, weak signals, strong signals 

- all are rendered at the same volume level as they come out the 

speaker.  Turn AGC off and the quiet stuff remains quiet while the loud 

stuff gets much louder.  Overall S/N ratio goes way up. 



I run my rig with a combination of AGC on/off.  I turn AGC on (to squash 

any loud peaks) then back RF gain down until the noise background gets 

weak.  Now I have a higher average S/N ratio but still have the 

ear-protection benefits of AGC. 



- Keith N1AS - 

- K3 711 - 



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Hello Folks, 

 Just talking to a friend that has a K3 also and he was asking why the 

signal gets louder with less noise when you turn off the AGC ? I 

turned off tha agc when working a weak DX station, and he was right. 

Made the copy easier and much louder. What is the technical reason for 

this? 



Don..w2xb 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2009-03-06 Thread Ron NA9F

Don thanks for the following info. These settings really gets rid of the
noise
and signals are there. I changed my settings.

Ron NA9F

Don's stated AGC settings:

AGC PLS off
AGC SLP 002
AGC THR 008
AGC-F 140
AGC-S 010

I like my K3 AGC now - weak signals sound weaker than strong ones and 
the noise level does not rise as much.  Your preferences may vary.

73,
Don W3FPR



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Nice 5-band directional gain antenna

2009-03-06 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I'd be interested, same problem here, neighbours would start to  
wonder, maybe even complain.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
-- 
If all our misfortunes were laid in one common heap whence everyone  
must take an equal portion, most people would be contented to take  
their own and depart.
-Socrates (469?-399 B.C.)

On 6 Mar 2009, at 14:58, AD6XY wrote:


 I am glad it works. It is a pity it is so large though. I would love  
 one but
 22ft! or 6.7m in diameter is a little too big for normal UK lots. I  
 was
 wondering if designing a reduced size version for 10m 6m and 4m  
 might be a
 good plan.

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[Elecraft] I/O mod kit REMIOUPGD (P/N E850235)

2009-03-06 Thread Bill W4ZV


W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
 
 For those wanting TTL outputs on the I/O board (Mike incorrectly stated
 E850237), you may now replace your old board with a new one.  $15.00 ($20
 is correct) plus shipping.  This is an alternative to soldering the 2.2k
 resistors on the old board.
 


For the record, I'm posting this response from Lyle KK7P to me (his comments
preceded by ###):


Which of the following mods involving the KIO3 does this affect?

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm


###I'm not sure I understand the question, but I'll try and answer anyway.
###I assume by E850237 you mean the KIO3 Remote (aka Digital) IO board that
is included in the REMIOUPGD mod kit. I believe the correct part number for
this is E850235.



**K3 AF OutPut Mod Kit* 
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf

###No impact, not part of the digital IO board.



**Improving the Immunity of the Rear-Panel RS232 and Audio Connectors to
RF
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/ELECRAFT_Application_Note_Improving_the_Immunity_of_the_Rear-Panel_KIO3_RS232_and_Audio_Connectors_to_RF.pdf

###Ground return inductor mod on the RS232 port only.
###The RFI mods list some optional inductor bypasses.  The optional ones are
not done on the new board; they are still optional based on your shack,
environment and station system design.



**K3 AF Mod kit 
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3_AF_Stage_Upgrade_Instructions_Rev_B.pdf
  
###No impact, not part of the digital IO board.



**K3 Negative ALC and Ext Band Data Pull-up Mods 
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3ALCMod_Rev_B.pdf

###Does the digital IO board portion.  The RF board cuts portion *must*
still be done.



To summarize:

1.  The board involved is the KIO3 Remote IO (aka Digital) Board, P/N
E850235 and is available for $20 plus shipping as REMIOUPGD on this page:
http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts

2.  Installing this board can be done in lieu of grounding the RS232 Ground
Choke on the Remote I/O Module as shown in Figure 5 of the mod Improving
the Immunity of the Rear-Panel RS232 and Audio Connectors to RF.  The other
parts of this mod on page 3, affecting the KIO3 Audio I/O Module, must still
be performed.

3.  Installing this board can be done in lieu of pages 3-4 of the mod K3
Negative ALC and Ext Band Data Pull-up Mods.  However, cutting the two
traces on the RF board (under the bottom front cover) must still be
performed as shown on page 2 of the mod instructions.

I hope this clears up any confusion.  Hopefully I got everything right
(please correct me if I didn't Lyle).

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO

2009-03-06 Thread Gary D Krause
This is the truth about QRP vs. QRO, as I see it. ;-)  First of all, as so 
many have already pointed out, it's all good.  But, have you ever wondered why 
the QRP guys seems to be more vocal about QRP than the QRO guys?  I'm a QRP 
guy myself and I can tell you it's because, it's so much fun and for every 
other reason everyone else has mentioned.  Now, why is it that some QRO guys 
feel that they have to defend themselves against the QRP crowd.  I'll tell you 
why...GUILT.  That's right, guilt.  If their spouses were to find out that it 
wasn't necessary to spend mega bucks on rigs, amps, towers and antennas and 
that they could operate on much less...well you get the picture. :-)

Seriously, I think everyone should do what interests them the most.  Our hobby 
has so much to offer.  Just as long as we all keep it in perspective and 
realize that QRP RULES! ;-)

Gary, N7HTS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 second receiver sound gone

2009-03-06 Thread Radio Amateur N5GE
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:30:10 +0100, Dick Grolleman
groll...@planet.nl wrote:

I would upgrade the firmware to the latest version.  There are changes
specific to the SUB RX in several of the updates.  The betas are safe
to load and use, so load the last one.

Tom, N5GE

Hi All

Thsi happen to me several times now.
Been trying to work a dx staion split, and listen to to second receiver to 
find out where he is working the stations. I do turn off the second receiver, 
and turn it on again. But after doing this a few times, there is no sound 
anymore from the second receiver. I only can get it back by turning off the 
radio and switch it back on

Some on has had this problem before?

running version 2.78 still. Or should I upgrade?

K3 #1168
73 de Dick PA3FQA
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Re: [Elecraft] I/O mod kit REMIOUPGD (P/N E850235)

2009-03-06 Thread Jim
I went this route and updated (2) K3's with the E850235 boards. The boards
are $20 verses the kit with some resistors spec. to 1% is $15.

73 de KE4WY Jim 

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] I/O mod kit REMIOUPGD (P/N E850235)



W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
 
 For those wanting TTL outputs on the I/O board (Mike incorrectly stated
 E850237), you may now replace your old board with a new one.  $15.00 ($20
 is correct) plus shipping.  This is an alternative to soldering the 2.2k
 resistors on the old board.
 


For the record, I'm posting this response from Lyle KK7P to me (his comments
preceded by ###):


Which of the following mods involving the KIO3 does this affect?

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm


###I'm not sure I understand the question, but I'll try and answer anyway.
###I assume by E850237 you mean the KIO3 Remote (aka Digital) IO board that
is included in the REMIOUPGD mod kit. I believe the correct part number for
this is E850235.



**K3 AF OutPut Mod Kit* 
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf

###No impact, not part of the digital IO board.



**Improving the Immunity of the Rear-Panel RS232 and Audio Connectors to
RF
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/ELECRAFT_Application_Note_Improving_the_Imm
unity_of_the_Rear-Panel_KIO3_RS232_and_Audio_Connectors_to_RF.pdf

###Ground return inductor mod on the RS232 port only.
###The RFI mods list some optional inductor bypasses.  The optional ones are
not done on the new board; they are still optional based on your shack,
environment and station system design.



**K3 AF Mod kit 
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3_AF_Stage_Upgrade_Instructions_Rev_B.pdf
  
###No impact, not part of the digital IO board.



**K3 Negative ALC and Ext Band Data Pull-up Mods 
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3ALCMod_Rev_B.pdf

###Does the digital IO board portion.  The RF board cuts portion *must*
still be done.



To summarize:

1.  The board involved is the KIO3 Remote IO (aka Digital) Board, P/N
E850235 and is available for $20 plus shipping as REMIOUPGD on this page:
http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts

2.  Installing this board can be done in lieu of grounding the RS232 Ground
Choke on the Remote I/O Module as shown in Figure 5 of the mod Improving
the Immunity of the Rear-Panel RS232 and Audio Connectors to RF.  The other
parts of this mod on page 3, affecting the KIO3 Audio I/O Module, must still
be performed.

3.  Installing this board can be done in lieu of pages 3-4 of the mod K3
Negative ALC and Ext Band Data Pull-up Mods.  However, cutting the two
traces on the RF board (under the bottom front cover) must still be
performed as shown on page 2 of the mod instructions.

I hope this clears up any confusion.  Hopefully I got everything right
(please correct me if I didn't Lyle).

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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Re: [Elecraft] I/O mod kit REMIOUPGD (P/N E850235)

2009-03-06 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I have no clue what I received then.  I will have to try to find the
receipt.

What board ships with new K3's?  I think it is the one that has some of the
mods and the pull up resistors for TTL levels. 


A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may
never get over. Ben Franklin
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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:13 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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I went this route and updated (2) K3's with the E850235 boards. The boards
are $20 verses the kit with some resistors spec. to 1% is $15.

73 de KE4WY Jim 

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] I/O mod kit REMIOUPGD (P/N E850235)



W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
 
 For those wanting TTL outputs on the I/O board (Mike incorrectly 
 stated E850237), you may now replace your old board with a new one.  
 $15.00 ($20 is correct) plus shipping.  This is an alternative to 
 soldering the 2.2k resistors on the old board.
 


For the record, I'm posting this response from Lyle KK7P to me (his comments
preceded by ###):


Which of the following mods involving the KIO3 does this affect?

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm


###I'm not sure I understand the question, but I'll try and answer anyway.
###I assume by E850237 you mean the KIO3 Remote (aka Digital) IO board that
is included in the REMIOUPGD mod kit. I believe the correct part number for
this is E850235.



**K3 AF OutPut Mod Kit*
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf

###No impact, not part of the digital IO board.



**Improving the Immunity of the Rear-Panel RS232 and Audio Connectors to
RF
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/ELECRAFT_Application_Note_Improving_the_Imm
unity_of_the_Rear-Panel_KIO3_RS232_and_Audio_Connectors_to_RF.pdf

###Ground return inductor mod on the RS232 port only.
###The RFI mods list some optional inductor bypasses.  The optional ones are
not done on the new board; they are still optional based on your shack,
environment and station system design.



**K3 AF Mod kit
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3_AF_Stage_Upgrade_Instructions_Rev_B.pdf
  
###No impact, not part of the digital IO board.



**K3 Negative ALC and Ext Band Data Pull-up Mods
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3ALCMod_Rev_B.pdf

###Does the digital IO board portion.  The RF board cuts portion *must*
still be done.



To summarize:

1.  The board involved is the KIO3 Remote IO (aka Digital) Board, P/N
E850235 and is available for $20 plus shipping as REMIOUPGD on this page:
http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts

2.  Installing this board can be done in lieu of grounding the RS232 Ground
Choke on the Remote I/O Module as shown in Figure 5 of the mod Improving
the Immunity of the Rear-Panel RS232 and Audio Connectors to RF.  The other
parts of this mod on page 3, affecting the KIO3 Audio I/O Module, must still
be performed.

3.  Installing this board can be done in lieu of pages 3-4 of the mod K3
Negative ALC and Ext Band Data Pull-up Mods.  However, cutting the two
traces on the RF board (under the bottom front cover) must still be
performed as shown on page 2 of the mod instructions.

I hope this clears up any confusion.  Hopefully I got everything right
(please correct me if I didn't Lyle).

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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[Elecraft] [K2] Cw Signal Shift with Filter Change

2009-03-06 Thread KG4UFV

I have encountered a problem with my K2.  When I change from Filter 1 to
Filter2 in CW mode the cw signal shifts 600hz down in frequency.  Has anyone
experienced this before?  
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Cw Signal Shift with Filter Change

2009-03-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Is this something that just happened, or has it possibly always been 
there unnoticed?  In any case, a change to the BFO frequency of one or 
all filters is in order.

The condition should be cured by doing a filter alignment.  I highly 
recommend using Spectrogram to do that task.  See my website 
www.w3fpr.com - article on K2 Dial Calibration, the filter alignment 
info is in part 3 of that article.

73,
Don W3FPR

KG4UFV wrote:
 I have encountered a problem with my K2.  When I change from Filter 1 to
 Filter2 in CW mode the cw signal shifts 600hz down in frequency.  Has anyone
 experienced this before?  
   
   
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[Elecraft] SP2 Companion Speaker for the Elecraft K2

2009-03-06 Thread Casual Observer

Dear Sir or Madam (Elecraft List Members)

 

I am extreemly new to the Elecraft and CW community although I have built 
numerous Heathkits many years ago. I am hoping to get back into this hoby with 
the K1 and K2 kits.  My question specifically address the SP2 companion speaker 
that I am presently obtaining parts for.  Could you please tell me what are 
the: 

 

J1 RCA Mute,   and the 

L1 82mh,   and where I can obtain them.

 

Respectfully

 

David Fuchs

Lexington Park, MD

 

casualobserver...@msn.com

 

 

 

 
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Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO

2009-03-06 Thread Bill W4ZV


Gary D Krause wrote:
 
 Just as long as we all keep it in perspective and 
 realize that QRP RULES! ;-)
 

But QRP simply does NOT rule everywhere...

...for DXing on the low bands (80/160),
...for EME or meteor scatter on VHF,
...when propagation is marginal or atmospheric QRN is high,
...in emergency communications when a life depends on it.

Sure QRP works well on the HF bands when conditions are good...it's a heck
of a lot of fun to work across the world with a 2 Watt rig in an Altoids tin
and a piece of wire...but please don't make blanket statements about QRP
ruling for many activities...it simply doesn't.  

If QRPers want a REAL challenge, try working DXCC on 160m with 5 Watts.

73,  Bill  W4ZV (who loves both)
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Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO

2009-03-06 Thread Bob Tellefsen
Hi Bill
No QRP 160 DXCC here.  I rarely even
hear DX on 160.
But I do have QRP WAS on 160m.  Must
not be too common, as ARRL couldn't recall
the last time they had issued one.
73, Bob N6WG

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 Gary D Krause wrote:

 Just as long as we all keep it in perspective and
 realize that QRP RULES! ;-)


 But QRP simply does NOT rule everywhere...

 ...for DXing on the low bands (80/160),
 ...for EME or meteor scatter on VHF,
 ...when propagation is marginal or atmospheric QRN is high,
 ...in emergency communications when a life depends on it.

 Sure QRP works well on the HF bands when conditions are good...it's a heck
 of a lot of fun to work across the world with a 2 Watt rig in an Altoids 
 tin
 and a piece of wire...but please don't make blanket statements about QRP
 ruling for many activities...it simply doesn't.

 If QRPers want a REAL challenge, try working DXCC on 160m with 5 Watts.

 73,  Bill  W4ZV (who loves both)
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Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO

2009-03-06 Thread Mike-WE0H
He had a wink after his 'QRP RULES!' statement. Winks, as in just 
joking, giving you guys some crap, ha ha ha , hi hi hi...that sort of 
thing. I seriously doubt anyone here is bashing or calling anyone out, 
it's all fun, to each their own, don't push this or that upon someone 
unless they ask, you know, be happy. Text emails don't show emotion, and 
feelings don't get understood because of this. Tongue in cheek, smile, 
it's Friday!!! Yea!!!  hi hi...

73,
Mike
WE0H
Building my K2...almost done...



Bill W4ZV wrote:
 Gary D Krause wrote:
   
 Just as long as we all keep it in perspective and 
 realize that QRP RULES! ;-)

 

 But QRP simply does NOT rule everywhere...

 ...for DXing on the low bands (80/160),
 ...for EME or meteor scatter on VHF,
 ...when propagation is marginal or atmospheric QRN is high,
 ...in emergency communications when a life depends on it.

 Sure QRP works well on the HF bands when conditions are good...it's a heck
 of a lot of fun to work across the world with a 2 Watt rig in an Altoids tin
 and a piece of wire...but please don't make blanket statements about QRP
 ruling for many activities...it simply doesn't.  

 If QRPers want a REAL challenge, try working DXCC on 160m with 5 Watts.

 73,  Bill  W4ZV (who loves both)
   
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[Elecraft] QRP Challenge

2009-03-06 Thread John Wiener
Recently my K2 into Don Wilhelm for a tune-up.  I decided to build  
a K1 to have ready while the K2 was in the shop.

What a great radio.  the QRP forces me to LISTEN.  I am working more  
CW DX now than ever before.  I even get through pile-ups on 2 W.  I  
never thought that QRP would be exciting but it is.

John
AB8O
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Cw Signal Shift with Filter Change

2009-03-06 Thread Julian, G4ILO



KG4UFV wrote:
 
 I have encountered a problem with my K2.  When I change from Filter 1 to
 Filter2 in CW mode the cw signal shifts 600hz down in frequency.  Has
 anyone experienced this before?  
 
A slight frequency shift is normal, because the K2 has to shift the BFO to
get the filter passband centered where you want it, and then shift the VFO
the other way to compensate, but the VFO resolution on the K2 is only 10Hz
or so, and the differences don't always cancel out.

But 600Hz is way too much.

-
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack   http://www.g4ilo.com/blog.html G4ILO's
Bloghttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and K3 
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[Elecraft] QRP, QRO, and God

2009-03-06 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
I just did that to catch your attention (sorry if anyone is offended).

QRP and QRO are all relative terms.  It is really just a matter of
physics.  The ionosphere has never been impressed by carrying a
signal from point A to point B.  It does it all the time.  And it has
no idea if the source is a kw or 1uw.  If conditions are good, you
can make the contact.

:-)

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] SP2 Companion Speaker for the Elecraft K2

2009-03-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
David,

J1 is an RCA phono jack.
L1 is an 82 mH inductor that is part of the input low pass filter.

You can obtain the jack most anywhere, even Radio Shack should have 
them, but for the inductor, try Mouser or DigiKey.  Try DigiKey # 
M10134-ND for a shielded axial lead inductor or Mouser 43LJ382 for a 
radial lead type.

73,
Don W3FPR

Casual Observer wrote:
 Dear Sir or Madam (Elecraft List Members)

  

 I am extreemly new to the Elecraft and CW community although I have built 
 numerous Heathkits many years ago. I am hoping to get back into this hoby 
 with the K1 and K2 kits.  My question specifically address the SP2 companion 
 speaker that I am presently obtaining parts for.  Could you please tell me 
 what are the: 

  

 J1 RCA Mute,   and the 

 L1 82mh,   and where I can obtain them.

  

 Respectfully

  

 David Fuchs

 Lexington Park, MD

   

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Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO

2009-03-06 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I'm an *avid* QRP-er. 

Not transmitting so much, *receiving*. Nothing is quite as satisfying as
being able to say FB OM, SOLID CPY to a whisper of a QRP signal.

So when I have several stations to choose from to call, the weakest is my
first choice. If he/she is QRP, then I'll crank down the power to match. 

But I don't get upset if the other station needs me to QRO a bit for good
copy. I like being able to run 100 watts for that reason and it makes the
difference more often than not. After all, I'm generally using an Elecraft
rig, so guess who has by far the best receiver? 

There are lots of us. I just happened to be an HF QRP-er. But there are lots
on VHF too, running moonbounce and many other weak signal challenges. 

Ron AC7AC



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[Elecraft] QRP vs. QRO [END of related threads]

2009-03-06 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
OK, we've passed the overload threshold ;-)

The QRP/QRO thread is officially closed (until it pops up next year..)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
Elecraft List Moderator

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[Elecraft] K1EL in accident

2009-03-06 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn

Where K1EL keyers have been a recent topic, thought this would be of interest
to the group.

I don't know Steve personally. This is a posting from the contest reflector,
so I don't have any direct contact information other than the information
below.


***
I am sure many of you know Steve, K1EL, inventor of the Winkeyer series
of CW interfaces and miscellaneous keyers. He and I ship kits worldwide
for the love of the hobby at a minimal cash reward. While not a major
contester, he has worked with several list members and suffered through
several sleepless nights creating bug fixes for your logging pleasure.



Steve was in a serious car accident this week while commuting to work.
He feels lucky to have survived. Just one of his injuries involved 70
stitches to a laceration of his face. He will be laid up for several
weeks. Should you wish to send a card his address is:



Steve Elliott

43 Meadowcrest Dr.

Bedford, NH 03110


-
Julius Fazekas
N2WN

Tennessee Contest Group
http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html

Tennessee QSO Party
http://www.tnqp.org/

Elecraft K2/100 #4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Nice 5-band directional gain antenna

2009-03-06 Thread WILLIS COOKE

Of course it will work great, just not on 20 and 15 meters.

Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ


--- On Fri, 3/6/09, AD6XY m.j.wil...@rl.ac.uk wrote:

 From: AD6XY m.j.wil...@rl.ac.uk
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Nice 5-band directional gain antenna
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 6:58 AM
 I am glad it works. It is a pity it is so large though. I
 would love one but
 22ft! or 6.7m in diameter is a little too big for normal UK
 lots. I was
 wondering if designing a reduced size version for 10m 6m
 and 4m might be a
 good plan.
 
 Mike 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO

2009-03-06 Thread WA6L


I really, really tried not to respond to this thread.  It was definitely a
troll, but after reading through these messages the hook finally set.

I just don't understand the need within the Ham community to create these
arbitrary bifurcations.  Why QRP vs. QRO?  Why SSB vs CW, or straight key
vs. paddle vs. keyboard?  Why contesters vs. rag chewers?

Our hobby is so broad that there is room for all of these differnt
viewpoints and different operating styles.  Further, there is no regulation,
no law, no tradition that states you have to participate in any of these
activities.  If something disgusts you (a genuine grumpy old man remark),
then just avoid it.  There is plenty of bandwith out there -- just spin the
dial.

John, WA6L

 
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[Elecraft] K3: Low audio on 10m FM transmit...

2009-03-06 Thread James Sarte
Dear group,

 

Can't seem to figure out what's going on here.  Have the stock Elecraft MH-2
mic.  According to other stations and through monitoring on an HT, my audio
sounds very low.  Increasing mic gain does nothing to change it.  I normally
set mic gain to around 4, but even when pushing it to 30, audio still sounds
low at the receiving station.  What am I missing here?

 

73,

James KC2UEE (soon to be K3JPS)

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[Elecraft] K3 Upgrade Kit Question

2009-03-06 Thread Joel R. Hallas
I appreciate that the REMIOUPGD upgrade kit resolves ALC and band data
pull-up issues -- neither of which are of interest to me at the moment.
However, I wonder if the new board also includes updates to resolve the RF
pickup problems in lines connected to the K3 rear-panel MIC, PHONES, PC
IN/OUT and RS-232 rear-panel connectors?

If so it would, IMHO, be worthwhile even if I never have anything that reads
band data.

Regards, Joel
Joel R. Hallas, W1ZR


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[Elecraft] XV432 alignment

2009-03-06 Thread Ross
Hi all,
I have put together an XV432 transverter and it went together very well.
But I have a problem on alignment, so can somebody assist please.

Aligning the local oscillator, the instructions are to peak L3,L4,L5 for 
maximum, for a peak voltage which should be between1.5 and 3volts,
nominally 2.5volts, however I can peak them ok, but the voltage is well over 
4volts and the L4 slug is almost out of the former.

Can anyone give me info as to what the problem could be.

Regards
Ross
ZL1WN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Low audio on 10m FM transmit...

2009-03-06 Thread Lyle Johnson
 ...According to other stations and through monitoring on an HT, my audio
 sounds very low.  Increasing mic gain does nothing to change it.  I normally
 set mic gain to around 4, but even when pushing it to 30, audio still sounds
 low at the receiving station.  What am I missing here?

Once you have the correct ALC indication, set the transmit deviation in 
the CONFIG menu.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Low audio on 10m FM transmit...

2009-03-06 Thread James Sarte
Woops. never mind.  Had FM deviation set to 1.  Bumped it up to 3, and am
now getting beautiful reports.

 

James KC2UEE

 

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From: James Sarte [mailto:kc2...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:50 PM
To: 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: K3: Low audio on 10m FM transmit...

 

Dear group,

 

Can't seem to figure out what's going on here.  Have the stock Elecraft MH-2
mic.  According to other stations and through monitoring on an HT, my audio
sounds very low.  Increasing mic gain does nothing to change it.  I normally
set mic gain to around 4, but even when pushing it to 30, audio still sounds
low at the receiving station.  What am I missing here?

 

73,

James KC2UEE (soon to be K3JPS)

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Low audio on 10m FM transmit...

2009-03-06 Thread James Sarte
OK, now this is weird. I went back into the menu after checking the manual
as the manual states that the FM deviation setting is normally 5.  Before
changing deviation to 3, I remembered the settings available were 1K to 6K
and the selected width at that time was 1Khz.  Now my menu options are only
2Khz to 6Khz?!?!?

 

Am I going bonkers here, or is my memory failing me?  Is it 1-6 or 2-6?

 

73,

James KC2UEE

 

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From: James Sarte [mailto:kc2...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 5:15 PM
To: 'James Sarte'; 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: RE: K3: Low audio on 10m FM transmit...

 

Woops. never mind.  Had FM deviation set to 1.  Bumped it up to 3, and am
now getting beautiful reports.

 

James KC2UEE

 

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From: James Sarte [mailto:kc2...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:50 PM
To: 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: K3: Low audio on 10m FM transmit...

 

Dear group,

 

Can't seem to figure out what's going on here.  Have the stock Elecraft MH-2
mic.  According to other stations and through monitoring on an HT, my audio
sounds very low.  Increasing mic gain does nothing to change it.  I normally
set mic gain to around 4, but even when pushing it to 30, audio still sounds
low at the receiving station.  What am I missing here?

 

73,

James KC2UEE (soon to be K3JPS)

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Low audio on 10m FM transmit...

2009-03-06 Thread Joe Planisky
HA!  You're not bonkers.  I just saw the same thing on my K3.  It  
looks like if you've never set the deviation, it defaults to 1.0, but  
as soon as you go over 2.0, the lower limit becomes 2.0.

Isn't software wonderful :-)

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Mar 6, 2009, at 2:35 PM, James Sarte wrote:

 OK, now this is weird. I went back into the menu after checking the  
 manual
 as the manual states that the FM deviation setting is normally 5.   
 Before
 changing deviation to 3, I remembered the settings available were 1K  
 to 6K
 and the selected width at that time was 1Khz.  Now my menu options  
 are only
 2Khz to 6Khz?!?!?



 Am I going bonkers here, or is my memory failing me?  Is it 1-6 or  
 2-6?



 73,

 James KC2UEE



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 From: James Sarte [mailto:kc2...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 5:15 PM
 To: 'James Sarte'; 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
 Subject: RE: K3: Low audio on 10m FM transmit...



 Woops. never mind.  Had FM deviation set to 1.  Bumped it up to 3,  
 and am
 now getting beautiful reports.



 James KC2UEE



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 From: James Sarte [mailto:kc2...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:50 PM
 To: 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
 Subject: K3: Low audio on 10m FM transmit...



 Dear group,



 Can't seem to figure out what's going on here.  Have the stock  
 Elecraft MH-2
 mic.  According to other stations and through monitoring on an HT,  
 my audio
 sounds very low.  Increasing mic gain does nothing to change it.  I  
 normally
 set mic gain to around 4, but even when pushing it to 30, audio  
 still sounds
 low at the receiving station.  What am I missing here?



 73,

 James KC2UEE (soon to be K3JPS)

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[Elecraft] Is the KIO2 line needed with external amp and auto-tuner?

2009-03-06 Thread dw
A number of you from the group have really helped me out incredibly!!
 Huge thanks 

THIS GROUP ROCKS!!!  :~]

I run an SGC-237 auto-tuner outside the house.
Its the best setup I've ever had, and I don't want to lose its
functionality.

I plan on locating the external 100 watt amp box for the K2 in a
different room.
It will be located in a room where I have power supplies and coax
line going outside to the auto-tuner.

Since I already have an auto-tuner functioning, I'm wondering if there
is any need for the RS232 control line from the K2 to the amp box.

I think perhaps at minimum, there is an RF-detect signal that must come
back from
the amp to the K2... if I understand the KIO2 document.

Thanks again ALL.
Duane
N1BBR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Upgrade Kit Question

2009-03-06 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
The REMIOUPGD board only deals with the -AGC and Band Data pull-up 
changes. We're basically offering it at or below cost for older K3s. 
(All newer ones have this.)

For those interested in ordering this board, which replaces the digital 
I/O remote board on the KIO3, its available for $20 on our parts and mod 
kits order page:
http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts

And our complete listing of K3 app notes and mods is:
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm

73, Eric  WA6HHQ




Joel R. Hallas wrote:
 I appreciate that the REMIOUPGD upgrade kit resolves ALC and band data
 pull-up issues -- neither of which are of interest to me at the moment.
 However, I wonder if the new board also includes updates to resolve the RF
 pickup problems in lines connected to the K3 rear-panel MIC, PHONES, PC
 IN/OUT and RS-232 rear-panel connectors?

 If so it would, IMHO, be worthwhile even if I never have anything that reads
 band data.

 Regards, Joel
 Joel R. Hallas, W1ZR
   
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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KIO2 line needed with external amp and auto-tuner?

2009-03-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Duane,

Not to put a damper on your plans, but to serve as a caution.  The 
AUXBUS signal is a one wire communications channel between the K2 and 
its options.  If the length of the cable becomes too long, there will be 
significant delay between a query and a response on that AUXBUS signal 
which will produce errors - the first may likely be that the remote 
option (KP100/KAT100) will not be recognized by the K2.   Those signals 
are not all RS-232 levels, they are internal K2 signals, and that is why 
the connector on the K2 is labeled AUX IO - do not connect a standard 
computer serial port cable directly to the K2, it will cause damage to 
the K2.

If I recall, the signaling has been tested out to 6 feet of cable, but 
it sounds like your plans will require more cable length than that.

Please let us know how long a cable you have used and whether it 
performed without problems, I am certain several others would like to 
know too.

73,
Don W3FPR

dw wrote:
 A number of you from the group have really helped me out incredibly!!
  Huge thanks 

 THIS GROUP ROCKS!!!  :~]

 I run an SGC-237 auto-tuner outside the house.
 Its the best setup I've ever had, and I don't want to lose its
 functionality.

 I plan on locating the external 100 watt amp box for the K2 in a
 different room.
 It will be located in a room where I have power supplies and coax
 line going outside to the auto-tuner.

 Since I already have an auto-tuner functioning, I'm wondering if there
 is any need for the RS232 control line from the K2 to the amp box.

 I think perhaps at minimum, there is an RF-detect signal that must come
 back from
 the amp to the K2... if I understand the KIO2 document.

 Thanks again ALL.
 Duane
 N1BBR
   

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Re: [Elecraft] Alternate Knob for K3 VFO B - update

2009-03-06 Thread WBG

Having read several sets of emails regarding substitutes for the B knob
over the past year, I thought I could contribute by making a suggestion. 
Since this is the first posting I've done to the forum (or any forum), I
have no idea whether this will reach its intended audience, but here goes:

Several years ago, I added a crank to an FT-817 main dial.  I was unaware of
any substitutes, so I just made my own.  You can do the same with the K3 B
dial.  All you need is a very small screw, about 2 x 10 mm, and a ferrule to
fit around the end of the screw to create a rotatable knob.  I have
downloaded (I hope) 2 images of the 817 dial I modified (See
http://n2.nabble.com/RadioPhotagsWBG-f2438356.html; and
http://n2.nabble.com/embed/f2438356;).  For the 817 knob, I used a very
small flathead screw, 0.8 x 8 mm, and a plastic ferrule from my 50-yr. old
junk box.  I drilled into the mostly plastic 817 dial using a pin vise and
drill bit slightly narrower than the screw, then carefully turned the screw
into the hole to force threads into the plastic.  Assuming all K3 B dials
are the same, you could drill about 6 mm into the plastic before hitting the
metal core.  (my K3 dial is so heavy, I wonder if the Elecraft crew used
depleted uranium.)  I don't mean to imply there is anything wrong with the
K8FF modifications, but If you need crank right away, this could do it.  The
817 was so easy, I'm thinking of putting these cranks on my K3 Shift,
Width etc., knobs.  Hi, Hi!  I hope this helps.



I received several replies to my question about an alternate knob for 
VFO B on the K3.  It appears that quite a few people have switched out 
that knob ... some with a K2 knob, others with one of the larger Yaesu 
knobs, a few with varying military or commercial surplus knobs they were 
able to find.   The general feedback was that the FT-817 knob was 
probably NOT the way to go.

I also got a very nice reply from K8FF, the fellow who makes the finger 
dimples and the FT-817 Kranker knob.  With his permission I'm quoting 
the relevant portions of his message below.

73,
Dave   AB7E

Bill, WD8MNG 
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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KIO2 line needed with external amp and auto-tuner?

2009-03-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:04:04 -0500, Don Wilhelm wrote:

If I recall, the signaling has been tested out to 6 feet of cable, but 
it sounds like your plans will require more cable length than that.

The primary issues with cable length are noise pickup and capacitance. 
Both can be helped a lot by using CAT5 for the serial connection. Dedicate 
one pair to each signal line, and connect the return of each pair to the 
connector shell, not pin 5.  CAT5 is very low capacitance, and the very 
high twist ratio rejects noise and RFI. Going to the connector shell 
bypasses the pin 1 problem at each end. 

I work in pro audio, and we often have sound equipment in racks buried in 
the bowls of the building, but need to remote control that gear for tuning 
the system from within the auditorium. Doing what I've described, we often 
use serial over 200 ft of CAT5 at very reasonable data rates with no 
problems. BTW -- the RS232 standard originally quoted cable length as a 
limit, but was later revised to define it on the basis of capacitance. 

73,

Jim Brown K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] Alternate Knob for K3 VFO B - update

2009-03-06 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
I'm not a big fan of cranks on knobs, but I've improved my K3 VFO B
knob in a way very reminenasent(SP!) of the broccoili band for the K2,
by using a short length of bicycle inner tube pushed on and folded
over.  I think another layer would be better, but two is pretty good.

73, doug

   Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:18:15 -0800 (PST)
   From: WBG william.garn...@uc.edu

   Having read several sets of emails regarding substitutes for the B knob
   over the past year, I thought I could contribute by making a suggestion. 
   Since this is the first posting I've done to the forum (or any forum), I
   have no idea whether this will reach its intended audience, but here goes:
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Upgrade Kit Question

2009-03-06 Thread K2MK
Hi Joel:

The upgrade to improve RF immunity affects two different I/O boards. The 
board with the audio connectors on it and the board with the DB9 and DB15 
connectors. The ALC mod kit for $20 is a Rev B version of the board with the 
DB9 and DB15 connectors. And I don't know if the RF immunity mod was done to 
that board or not. Someone who has the Rev B board in front of them would 
have to comment on whether choke L1 has been jumpered across (or perhaps 
removed entirely).

73,
Mike K2MK

Joel R. Hallas
Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:58:46 -0800

I appreciate that the REMIOUPGD upgrade kit resolves ALC and band data
pull-up issues -- neither of which are of interest to me at the moment.
However, I wonder if the new board also includes updates to resolve the RF
pickup problems in lines connected to the K3 rear-panel MIC, PHONES, PC
IN/OUT and RS-232 rear-panel connectors?

If so it would, IMHO, be worthwhile even if I never have anything that reads
band data.

Regards, Joel
Joel R. Hallas, W1ZR
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Upgrade Kit Question

2009-03-06 Thread Robert Dorchuck
It has not been jumpered or removed.
Bob  W6VY

- Original Message - 
From: K2MK k...@comcast.net
To: jrhal...@optonline.net; Elecraft Reflector 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Upgrade Kit Question


 Hi Joel:

 The upgrade to improve RF immunity affects two different I/O boards. 
 The
 board with the audio connectors on it and the board with the DB9 and 
 DB15
 connectors. The ALC mod kit for $20 is a Rev B version of the board 
 with the
 DB9 and DB15 connectors. And I don't know if the RF immunity mod was 
 done to
 that board or not. Someone who has the Rev B board in front of them 
 would
 have to comment on whether choke L1 has been jumpered across (or 
 perhaps
 removed entirely).

 73,
 Mike K2MK

 Joel R. Hallas
 Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:58:46 -0800

 I appreciate that the REMIOUPGD upgrade kit resolves ALC and band 
 data
 pull-up issues -- neither of which are of interest to me at the 
 moment.
 However, I wonder if the new board also includes updates to resolve 
 the RF
 pickup problems in lines connected to the K3 rear-panel MIC, PHONES, 
 PC
 IN/OUT and RS-232 rear-panel connectors?

 If so it would, IMHO, be worthwhile even if I never have anything 
 that reads
 band data.

 Regards, Joel
 Joel R. Hallas, W1ZR


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[Elecraft] K3 Upgrade Kit Question

2009-03-06 Thread Roy Morris
I have the Rev B E850235 K3 KIO3 Digital I/O PCB installed in my K3.  Choke L1 
has NOT been jumpered.  I sent an email to Elecraft at i...@elecraft.com asking 
if L1 should be jumpered.  I never received a reply.  Roy Morris  W4WFB
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[Elecraft] K3 Update Kit Question

2009-03-06 Thread Roy Morris
Let me correct my Elecraft inquiry.  I aske them if L1 would be jumpered on 
future KIO3A boards supplied in new production K3s.  Elecraft has not responded 
to this question.  Roy Morris  W4WFB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Upgrade Kit Question

2009-03-06 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi Roy,

You are OK. Rev B -IS- the new KIO3 Digital Remote I/O board. (Same as 
supplied with the REMIOUPGD kit.)

L1 is not jumpered. It is replaced with a zero ohm resistor on this board.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
-


Roy Morris wrote:
 I have the Rev B E850235 K3 KIO3 Digital I/O PCB installed in my K3.  Choke 
 L1 has NOT been jumpered.  I sent an email to Elecraft at i...@elecraft.com 
 asking if L1 should be jumpered.  I never received a reply.  Roy Morris  W4WFB

   
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[Elecraft] Elecraft at Radiofest Monterey, CA Tomorrow (Sat.)

2009-03-06 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft
We're just finishing packing up for Radiofest in Monterey tomorrow. 
(Yup, still here tonight at Elecraft HQ..  ;-)

Elecraft will have a booth at the hamfest and Wayne and I will both be 
there, along with Lisa and many from our Elecraft Aptos crew. 

The show starts 9 AM and is just before you get to Monterey in Seaside. 
For directions, see:
http://www.radiofest.org/maps.html

I'm also giving a talk on Elecraft at 10:00.

For more information, see:  http://www.radiofest.org/

See you tomorrow!

73, Eric   WA6HHQ

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[Elecraft] WWII-era US Military MF/HF QRP rigs (OT)

2009-03-06 Thread Mike Morrow
Sandy wrote:

 I think the Pogo stick was the SCR-511?  Anybody remember?

Yes, Sandy.  The Army BC-745 pogo-stick is part of the SCR-511.
The famous Army BC-611 handy-talky you mention is part of the
SCR-536.

The Navy also had low power battery-powered portable MF/HF sets
in the form of the MAB and DAV chest-pack sets.

All of these operate at about one-third watt output into a short whip
antenna.  They are crystal-controlled (receiver and transmitter),
operating from about 2 or 3 MHz to 6 MHz.  They had 5 to 7 vacuum
tubes, and utilized superheterodyne receivers and plate-moodulated
transmitters.  The Army sets had a receiver RF amp, but short
antennas.  The Navy sets had no RF amp, but longer antennas.

I doubt there was ever much DX with these sets.  I recently fired up my
BC-611-F on 3885 kHz and heard a surprising number of AM stations at
night.

What would the ERP be for .35 watts on 3885 kHz going into a 48-inch
whip, handheld?   :-)

Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO

2009-03-06 Thread Dale Putnam

Psst... don't tell anyone yet... I am only missing four states for WAS qrp 

and they are all east coast... 

--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy


 
 From: n...@comcast.net
 To: btipp...@alum.mit.edu; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:41:33 -0800
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO
 
 Hi Bill
 No QRP 160 DXCC here. I rarely even
 hear DX on 160.
 But I do have QRP WAS on 160m. Must
 not be too common, as ARRL couldn't recall
 the last time they had issued one.
 73, Bob N6WG
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bill W4ZV btipp...@alum.mit.edu
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO
 
 
 
 
  Gary D Krause wrote:
 
  Just as long as we all keep it in perspective and
  realize that QRP RULES! ;-)
 
 
  But QRP simply does NOT rule everywhere...
 
  ...for DXing on the low bands (80/160),
  ...for EME or meteor scatter on VHF,
  ...when propagation is marginal or atmospheric QRN is high,
  ...in emergency communications when a life depends on it.
 
  Sure QRP works well on the HF bands when conditions are good...it's a heck
  of a lot of fun to work across the world with a 2 Watt rig in an Altoids 
  tin
  and a piece of wire...but please don't make blanket statements about QRP
  ruling for many activities...it simply doesn't.
 
  If QRPers want a REAL challenge, try working DXCC on 160m with 5 Watts.
 
  73, Bill W4ZV (who loves both)
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[Elecraft] NorCal Doublet

2009-03-06 Thread Frank MacDonell
Does anyone know where one can purchase the wire for the NorCal
Doublet Antenna (4 strand computer ribbon wire)? Thanks

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Re: [Elecraft] NorCal Doublet

2009-03-06 Thread Milt, N5IA
Actually, that wire is 4-wire rotor control wire that was used for many 
years (perhaps still is) for the simple rotors that don't have brakes in 
them.  You probably can get it from any of the normal Ham Radio stores that 
sell rotors.

Milt, N5IA

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From: Frank MacDonell kd8...@gmail.com
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:01 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] NorCal Doublet


 Does anyone know where one can purchase the wire for the NorCal
 Doublet Antenna (4 strand computer ribbon wire)? Thanks

 -- 
 Frank KD8FIP
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Re: [Elecraft] WWII-era US Military MF/HF QRP rigs (OT)

2009-03-06 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
As a communications sergeant in the 40th Armored Division of the California
National Guard in the late 1950's we were still using WWII vintage AN/PRC-6
hand helds. They were used by the infantry on foot traveling with the tanks
(yes, they traveled together. It's easy for one person on foot to kill a
tank when in towns or wooded areas when they can't swing the turret. Just
climb up with a sachel bomb and then walk away. That's why in the war films
you see infantry walking alongside the armored vehicles. The PRC-6 was how
the infantry communicated with the soldiers inside.) 

Anyway, getting back to merely off-topic, the PRC-6 operated A.M. crystal
controlled in the Amateur 6-meter band which was shared with the military
then. The PRC-6 used the sub-miniature pencil tubes (because the tubes
were about the diameter of an ordinary lead pencil) and made perhaps 100
milliwatts output with fresh batteries. That was FB for the very short range
communications they needed. One day on duty in Southern California I was
holding a PRC-6 waiting to do a radio check with another guy in a vehicle
when I heard a W0 in Colorado start calling CQ right on my frequency. So I
answered him using my Ham call. He came right back. I don't recall the
signal reports but we chatted for a while until the armored vehicle came up
on frequency. 

The PRC-6's antenna was a 1/4 wave ribbon whip sort of like a metal tape
measure but the only ground was me holding the thing. We were talking over a
range of about 700 miles, me running 100 MW A.M. (which is about equal to 15
milliwatts SSB).

Amazing? Did everyone catch **when** that was? In the late 50's... at the
peak of the most humungous sunspot cycle seen since Guglielmo Marconi was in
diapers. 

You guys can have your DXCC, WAS and whatever certificates. I just want to
see another sunspot cycle like that!

Ron AC7AC


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Re: [Elecraft] WWII-era US Military MF/HF QRP rigs (OT)

2009-03-06 Thread Nick-WA5BDU
Yeah, I was licensed in early 62 -- the bottom of the cycle.  I'd visit 
older hams with incredible collections of DX QSLs on display.  They'd 
say, That was from back in '57 -- you could just put a piece of pipe on 
a coke bottle on ten meters and work the whole world. 

The first big peak that seemed comparable came about 17 years later (1979).

73--Nick, WA5BDU


Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

 Amazing? Did everyone catch **when** that was? In the late 50's... at the
 peak of the most humungous sunspot cycle seen since Guglielmo Marconi was in
 diapers. 

 You guys can have your DXCC, WAS and whatever certificates. I just want to
 see another sunspot cycle like that!

 Ron AC7AC

   
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Re: [Elecraft] NorCal Doublet

2009-03-06 Thread Milt, N5IA
I decided to go a-googling.

Here is what I found at the wireman web site. 
http://www.thewireman.com/index.html

In particular at http://www.thewireman.com/rotorp.html

  308 4-20,various light weight rotors, resistance 1.04 ohms per 100 ft 
per wire 0.30 0.24 0.230 0.218


Milt, N5IA


- Original Message - 
From: Milt, N5IA n...@zia-connection.com
To: Frank MacDonell kd8...@gmail.com; Elecraft 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NorCal Doublet


 Actually, that wire is 4-wire rotor control wire that was used for many
 years (perhaps still is) for the simple rotors that don't have brakes in
 them.  You probably can get it from any of the normal Ham Radio stores 
 that
 sell rotors.

 Milt, N5IA

 - Original Message - 
 From: Frank MacDonell kd8...@gmail.com
 To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:01 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] NorCal Doublet


 Does anyone know where one can purchase the wire for the NorCal
 Doublet Antenna (4 strand computer ribbon wire)? Thanks

 -- 
 Frank KD8FIP
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Re: [Elecraft] WWII-era US Military MF/HF QRP rigs (OT)

2009-03-06 Thread rfenabled
Ron,
Yep, you get first prize for that story.
Pretty darn amazing
I enjoyed that..now for some real propagationHmmm
Gary
VK4WT

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-Original Message-
From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz

Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:06:47 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WWII-era US Military MF/HF QRP rigs (OT)


As a communications sergeant in the 40th Armored Division of the California
National Guard in the late 1950's we were still using WWII vintage AN/PRC-6
hand helds. They were used by the infantry on foot traveling with the tanks
(yes, they traveled together. It's easy for one person on foot to kill a
tank when in towns or wooded areas when they can't swing the turret. Just
climb up with a sachel bomb and then walk away. That's why in the war films
you see infantry walking alongside the armored vehicles. The PRC-6 was how
the infantry communicated with the soldiers inside.) 

Anyway, getting back to merely off-topic, the PRC-6 operated A.M. crystal
controlled in the Amateur 6-meter band which was shared with the military
then. The PRC-6 used the sub-miniature pencil tubes (because the tubes
were about the diameter of an ordinary lead pencil) and made perhaps 100
milliwatts output with fresh batteries. That was FB for the very short range
communications they needed. One day on duty in Southern California I was
holding a PRC-6 waiting to do a radio check with another guy in a vehicle
when I heard a W0 in Colorado start calling CQ right on my frequency. So I
answered him using my Ham call. He came right back. I don't recall the
signal reports but we chatted for a while until the armored vehicle came up
on frequency. 

The PRC-6's antenna was a 1/4 wave ribbon whip sort of like a metal tape
measure but the only ground was me holding the thing. We were talking over a
range of about 700 miles, me running 100 MW A.M. (which is about equal to 15
milliwatts SSB).

Amazing? Did everyone catch **when** that was? In the late 50's... at the
peak of the most humungous sunspot cycle seen since Guglielmo Marconi was in
diapers. 

You guys can have your DXCC, WAS and whatever certificates. I just want to
see another sunspot cycle like that!

Ron AC7AC


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Re: [Elecraft] NorCal Doublet

2009-03-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Frank,

I do not know of a source, but contrary to other posts, the Norcal 
doublet used actual computer #26
IDS wire (not rotator wire).

Don't get me wrong, the rotator wire will work, but it will not be as 
lightweight as one constructed of computer flat cable as the NorCal 
doublet was. 

If you want an antenna that will perform just like the NorCal doublet, 
use any kind of wire for the radiator, cut to 22 ft. on each side and 
feed it with 300 ohm ladder line.  I use the #22 teflon wire offered 
frequently by N2GO on the QRP reflector for the radiating element, and 
use either lengths of the same N2GO wire twisted for the feedline or I 
use the 300 ohm ladder line.  The teflon insulation is nice because it 
does not stick to tree limbs and if tangled is easy to untangle because 
of the 'slippery' nature of teflon.  The antenna is the same as the 
NorCal doublet, but the wire is different.

73,
Don W3FPR

Frank MacDonell wrote:
 Does anyone know where one can purchase the wire for the NorCal
 Doublet Antenna (4 strand computer ribbon wire)? Thanks

   

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2009-03-06 Thread Ralph Tyrrell

Don:
Your setting are so different from mine.
I tried yours, and now I have a brand new K3.

Thank you.

73, W1TF, K3 #696 , K1 # 1423, gets used once in a while.


--- On Fri, 3/6/09, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3]  AGC
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 8:22 AM
 Kieth is correct if the AGC parameters are set high,
 particularly the 
 slope - that tries to make everything the same volume.  If
 you can 
 recall tuning an AM radio between stations, the noise level
 between 
 stations gets louder because there is no signal to hold the
 AGC active, 
 and the AGC is quite aggressive.
 
 I did not like the behavior of the AGC with the default
 settings, I 
 liked the AGC behavior on my K2.  After seeing the curves
 produced by 
 Jack Smith (Clifton Labs), I changed my AGC parameters to
 more closely 
 emulate the K2.
 AGC PLS off
 AGC SLP 002
 AGC THR 008
 AGC-F 140
 AGC-S 010
 
 I like my K3 AGC now - weak signals sound weaker than
 strong ones and 
 the noise level does not rise as much.  Your preferences
 may vary.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR



  
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[Elecraft] [K2] Progress on my K2 assembly S/N 6698

2009-03-06 Thread Mike-WE0H
Just completed the 40m alignment and all is working perfect. Now onto 
stuffing the rest of the RF board components...Hope to have the radio 
complete this weekend.

I have to assemble the DSP kit yet, then install all the options after 
alignment of the other band stages. I have the NB, SSB  60m/XVTR kits 
built already, plus all the headers installed. Took a bit to figure out 
I needed to jumper this  that pin on the headers since I installed the 
headers instead of the W jumpers as I built the RF board up through the 
40m stage.

This is the 10w version. I picked up the AN762 linear amp board from FAR 
at the Orlando hamfest to build an external amp for those occasions 
where I want to run more than 10w.

Building a 14mc IF LF/MF transverter once the radio is complete. This 
radio will see lots of use on 600, 1750  2200 meters.

I have to say this is one super easy radio to build. The enamel wire is 
a breeze to strip/tin with some rosin and a 80w iron. Piece of cake 
winding the toroids with those procedures and pictures in the manual.

More info later...back to the bench I go!!! This is tons of fun.

Mike
WE0H
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[Elecraft] K3 LO Cut adjustment

2009-03-06 Thread rfenabled
It is a really good tool made very ordinary with the degree of adjustment 
allowed.

I cannot but wonder what the thinking was when the decision was made to adjust 
by a factor of 10 instead of a finer degree of adjustment of LO Cut.

I am curious if others have found themselves in the position of having to 
settle for eg. setting of 10 or 20, when a setting of 15 would be just about 
right on the money.

My ears are the only ones I have and they are not now as they were a long time 
ago.

I have tried different settings many times and still I come back to the lack of 
fine tuning available on the LO Cut.

The width and Shift work ok for my ears but the LO and HI Cut adjustments 
are just too wide for each increment. 

Maybe I'm picky, but, it is one of those little things that annoys me to the 
point where I give up and go inside and scream at the TV out of frustration.

What, if any, are the chances of improving this function? 
Gary #679
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