Re: [Elecraft] P3 hookup

2012-08-02 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Don Wilhelm wrote:

That will work ONLY if the SteppIR can listen in on 38400 bps traffic. 
If it needs any other speed, then you must put the Y on the P3.

Check the data speeds that the SteppIR will handle.


The older SteppIR controller can only handle up to 19200 bps. That speed 
must be manually configured in all three devices - the SteppIR 
controller, the computer and the P3 - and the SteppIR controller MUST be 
connected at the INput of the P3 (NOT to the K3)

The connection between the P3 and the K3 will always be automatically 
reconfigured to 38400 bps (regardless of the manual configuration 
setting in the K3) so an older SteppIR controller cannot read the 
traffic at this speed.

The newer SteppIR SDA-100 controller can handle 38400 bps so it could be 
connected to either the K3 or the P3, but again this speed must be 
manually configured in all three devices.


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 hookup

2012-08-02 Thread Mike
I wonder if that's dependent on the chip. I have one of the old style 
with the upgrade chip and it ranges from 2400 to 57600.

73, Mike NF4L

On 8/2/12 3:07 AM, Ian White GM3SEK wrote:
 Don Wilhelm wrote:
 That will work ONLY if the SteppIR can listen in on 38400 bps traffic.
 If it needs any other speed, then you must put the Y on the P3.

 Check the data speeds that the SteppIR will handle.

 The older SteppIR controller can only handle up to 19200 bps. That speed
 must be manually configured in all three devices - the SteppIR
 controller, the computer and the P3 - and the SteppIR controller MUST be
 connected at the INput of the P3 (NOT to the K3)

 The connection between the P3 and the K3 will always be automatically
 reconfigured to 38400 bps (regardless of the manual configuration
 setting in the K3) so an older SteppIR controller cannot read the
 traffic at this speed.

 The newer SteppIR SDA-100 controller can handle 38400 bps so it could be
 connected to either the K3 or the P3, but again this speed must be
 manually configured in all three devices.




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Re: [Elecraft] P3 hookup

2012-08-02 Thread Mike
OK, Mike. I did re-read it and I still am not sure what you mean. The 
phrase that's throwing me is

leg of the Y cable that goes to the K3 as the Elecraft leg


Presently I have a Y (from SteppIR). One of the arms goes to the 
SteppIR, one to the K3. The stem of the Y has a female DB9 that 
acccepts the cable from the computer.

I have the manual. That's what prompted the question.

Anyhow, it'll be here in a couple of days, and like you say, that'll 
make it clear.

73, Mike NF4L

On 8/1/12 7:33 PM, Mike K2MK wrote:
 Hi Mike,

 That is not correct. Please reread my response. Keep in mind that the P3 has
 two RS232 ports on it. One port from the computer and one port to the K3.

 If you wait until you get the P3 and its manual in your hands you'll see
 that it is really quite simple. Everything you need is contained in the box.

 73,
 Mike K2MK


 Mike-14-3 wrote
 Thanks, Mike.

 Just to make sure my age fuzzed brain got it:

 The Y stays where it is, plugged into the K3. The cable from the
 computer moves from that to the P3, then the shorty goes from the P3 to
 the Y.

 73, Mike NF4L

 On 8/1/12 2:00 PM, Mike K2MK wrote:
 Hi Mike,

 Think of the leg of the Y cable that goes to the K3 as the Elecraft leg.
 Take the cable that now goes to the K3 and move it to the P3. Then take
 the
 short serial cable supplied with the P3 and connect it between the P3 and
 the K3.

 73,
 Mike K2MK



 Mike-14-3 wrote
 I've got a P3 coming, and just downloaded the manual. If I understand
 correctly from the diagram on p 13, the RS232 path is
 Computer---P3---K3.

 Currently I have a y cable plugged into the K3. The cable from the
 'puter plugs into one leg of that, and the other leg goes to the SteppIR
 control box.

 Do I leave that where it is?

 73, Mike NF4L



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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Keyboard

2012-08-02 Thread W4ATK
Has anyone tried the MFJ-551 RFI suppressed keyboard? This is a PS2 
type of keyboard but PS2/USB adapters are cheap. Better yet, any word on when 
the Elecraft keyboard will be available?


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 hookup

2012-08-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike,

Make it simple - put the Y cable at the P3 -- The short cable that 
comes with the P3 connects between the P3 and the K3.
Set the baud rate at the P3, computer and SteppIR controller to the same 
value.
Job done.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/2/2012 4:27 AM, Mike wrote:
 OK, Mike. I did re-read it and I still am not sure what you mean. The
 phrase that's throwing me is

 leg of the Y cable that goes to the K3 as the Elecraft leg




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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Keyboard

2012-08-02 Thread nr4c
What Elecraft Keyboard?

...bill nr4c

On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 07:35:30 -0500, W4ATK wrote:
 Has anyone tried the MFJ-551 RFI suppressed keyboard? This is a PS2
 type of keyboard but PS2/USB adapters are cheap. Better yet, any word
 on when the Elecraft keyboard will be available?


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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Keyboard

2012-08-02 Thread W4ATK
Maybe I am mistaken but I think I heard of a USB Keyboard option for the 
SVGA/FFT board coming from Elecraft. I use all indoor antennas so RFi is 
pretty much a constant struggle with interconnect cabling like keyboards. 
Ferrites everywhere. I try to go wireless where I can. Heaven knows what I 
would be up against if I had a KPA-500. :-))

Jim, W4ATK
On Aug 2, 2012, at 7:53 AM, nr4c wrote:

 What Elecraft Keyboard?
 
 ...bill nr4c
 
 On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 07:35:30 -0500, W4ATK wrote:
 Has anyone tried the MFJ-551 RFI suppressed keyboard? This is a PS2
 type of keyboard but PS2/USB adapters are cheap. Better yet, any word
 on when the Elecraft keyboard will be available?
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Keyboard

2012-08-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim,

My understanding is that the USB option for the SVGA board is that it 
will *accept* a PC USB keyboard.  I have never heard that Elecraft would 
be selling a keyboard.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/2/2012 9:07 AM, W4ATK wrote:
 Maybe I am mistaken but I think I heard of a USB Keyboard option for the 
 SVGA/FFT board coming from Elecraft. I use all indoor antennas so RFi is 
 pretty much a constant struggle with interconnect cabling like keyboards. 
 Ferrites everywhere. I try to go wireless where I can. Heaven knows what I 
 would be up against if I had a

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 hookup

2012-08-02 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Ian,

My 5 year old SteppIR controller works fine at 38400 bps.

73,
Mike K2MK



Ian White GM3SEK wrote
 
 The older SteppIR controller can only handle up to 19200 bps. That speed 
 must be manually configured in all three devices - the SteppIR 
 controller, the computer and the P3 - and the SteppIR controller MUST be 
 connected at the INput of the P3 (NOT to the K3)
 
 The connection between the P3 and the K3 will always be automatically 
 reconfigured to 38400 bps (regardless of the manual configuration 
 setting in the K3) so an older SteppIR controller cannot read the 
 traffic at this speed.
 
 The newer SteppIR SDA-100 controller can handle 38400 bps so it could be 
 connected to either the K3 or the P3, but again this speed must be 
 manually configured in all three device
 
 73 from Ian GM3SEK
 http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
 




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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Keyboard

2012-08-02 Thread W4ATK
Well, I guess I was just reading into it a version of my wish list Don. I am 
currently using a Logitech K120 from Staples. $15.95 and two RS Ferrites. Seems 
to work OK at 100W. I tested on all bands 80 thru 10 this AM and it checked out 
clean.  But there is a KPA500 in  my future I am thinkin'.

73s Jim, W4ATK
On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

 Jim,
 
 My understanding is that the USB option for the SVGA board is that it will 
 *accept* a PC USB keyboard.  I have never heard that Elecraft would be 
 selling a keyboard.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 8/2/2012 9:07 AM, W4ATK wrote:
 Maybe I am mistaken but I think I heard of a USB Keyboard option for the 
 SVGA/FFT board coming from Elecraft. I use all indoor antennas so RFi is 
 pretty much a constant struggle with interconnect cabling like keyboards. 
 Ferrites everywhere. I try to go wireless where I can. Heaven knows what I 
 would be up against if I had a
 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 hookup

2012-08-02 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Mike K2MK wrote:
Hi Ian,

My 5 year old SteppIR controller works fine at 38400 bps.

73,
Mike K2MK

The one I originally used must have been a very early model, then, 
because that definitely was 19200 max. With my present SDA-100, 
everything can be set to 38400.



Ian White GM3SEK wrote

 The older SteppIR controller can only handle up to 19200 bps. That speed
 must be manually configured in all three devices - the SteppIR
 controller, the computer and the P3 - and the SteppIR controller MUST be
 connected at the INput of the P3 (NOT to the K3)

 The connection between the P3 and the K3 will always be automatically
 reconfigured to 38400 bps (regardless of the manual configuration
 setting in the K3) so an older SteppIR controller cannot read the
 traffic at this speed.

 The newer SteppIR SDA-100 controller can handle 38400 bps so it could be
 connected to either the K3 or the P3, but again this speed must be
 manually configured in all three device


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 I/Q output for pandapter

2012-08-02 Thread Tony Estep
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Buck k4ia k...@aol.com wrote:

 ...the signals are not there - just images

==
Buck, I have NaP3 running with my KX3, and it works fine. Set the global
offset to 0. NaP3 will automatically balance images if you give it a strong
signal to work on. I use my XG3 to put in a signal of S9+20 and tune the
KX3 about 20 khz above the XG3 signal. You'll see two spikes, but
eventually the right-hand spike will diminish. You can move the tuning
around a bit, and finally you'll see the image drop to 40db or even more
below the correct signal. When an antenna is connected, the images will be
invisible in the grass.

The cable that carries the I-Q has to be stereo 3/32 on one end and stereo
1/8 on the other end. If something is shorted in the cable, that would
cause the symptoms you describe.

Anyway, I assure you that it does work and that in fact it makes an
excellent SDR. Once you get it going, you'll love it.

73,
Tony KT0NY


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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Keyboard

2012-08-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
With indoor antennas, I would not want to be in the high RF level 
present with 500 watts.  You may be OK, but I would run the numbers 
for the RF exposure limits present at 500 watts given the close 
proximity to your antennas.

73,
Don, W3FPR

On 8/2/2012 9:32 AM, W4ATK wrote:
 Well, I guess I was just reading into it a version of my wish list Don. I am 
 currently using a Logitech K120 from Staples. $15.95 and two RS Ferrites. 
 Seems to work OK at 100W. I tested on all bands 80 thru 10 this AM and it 
 checked out clean.  But there is a KPA500 in  my future I am thinkin'.

 73s Jim, W4ATK
 On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

 Jim,

 My understanding is that the USB option for the SVGA board is that it will 
 *accept* a PC USB keyboard.  I have never heard that Elecraft would be 
 selling a keyboard.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 8/2/2012 9:07 AM, W4ATK wrote:
 Maybe I am mistaken but I think I heard of a USB Keyboard option for the 
 SVGA/FFT board coming from Elecraft. I use all indoor antennas so RFi 
 is pretty much a constant struggle with interconnect cabling like 
 keyboards. Ferrites everywhere. I try to go wireless where I can. Heaven 
 knows what I would be up against if I had a
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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Keyboard

2012-08-02 Thread Ian Kahn
If I remember correctly from earlier threads, there will be no Elecraft
keyboard.  Keyboards are basically commodity items.  There is no margin on
them for Elecraft to try to get into that market.

73,

--Ian
 Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
K3 #281, P3 #688
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 With indoor antennas, I would not want to be in the high RF level
 present with 500 watts.  You may be OK, but I would run the numbers
 for the RF exposure limits present at 500 watts given the close
 proximity to your antennas.

 73,
 Don, W3FPR

 On 8/2/2012 9:32 AM, W4ATK wrote:
  Well, I guess I was just reading into it a version of my wish list Don.
 I am currently using a Logitech K120 from Staples. $15.95 and two RS
 Ferrites. Seems to work OK at 100W. I tested on all bands 80 thru 10 this
 AM and it checked out clean.  But there is a KPA500 in  my future I am
 thinkin'.
 
  73s Jim, W4ATK
  On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 
  Jim,
 
  My understanding is that the USB option for the SVGA board is that it
 will *accept* a PC USB keyboard.  I have never heard that Elecraft would be
 selling a keyboard.
 
  73,
  Don W3FPR
 
  On 8/2/2012 9:07 AM, W4ATK wrote:
  Maybe I am mistaken but I think I heard of a USB Keyboard option for
 the SVGA/FFT board coming from Elecraft. I use all indoor antennas so
 RFi is pretty much a constant struggle with interconnect cabling like
 keyboards. Ferrites everywhere. I try to go wireless where I can. Heaven
 knows what I would be up against if I had a
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Memories

2012-08-02 Thread Matt Zilmer
When you STORE a memory, its previous contents are overwritten.
There's no need to erase the memory beforehand.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:56:59 -0700, you wrote:

I have a question about saving frequencies to memories.  I understand the
basic procedure.  My question:  If you want to save a frequency to a memory
which has another frequency already in it,  do you have to first erase that
particular memory and then save the new frequency to that memory?,  or can
you simply overwrite that existing memory with the new frequency?  

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 I/Q output for pandapter

2012-08-02 Thread Greg
You should also have some sort of galvanic ground isolation on the
line from the KX3 IQ to the sound card.

Also, If I recall correctly, the 0202 has a way to lift the grounds on
the input lines.  Experiment with those as well if you are having
image issues.

73
Greg


On 8/2/12, Tony Estep estept...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Buck k4ia k...@aol.com wrote:

 ...the signals are not there - just images

 ==
 Buck, I have NaP3 running with my KX3, and it works fine. Set the global
 offset to 0. NaP3 will automatically balance images if you give it a strong
 signal to work on. I use my XG3 to put in a signal of S9+20 and tune the
 KX3 about 20 khz above the XG3 signal. You'll see two spikes, but
 eventually the right-hand spike will diminish. You can move the tuning
 around a bit, and finally you'll see the image drop to 40db or even more
 below the correct signal. When an antenna is connected, the images will be
 invisible in the grass.

 The cable that carries the I-Q has to be stereo 3/32 on one end and stereo
 1/8 on the other end. If something is shorted in the cable, that would
 cause the symptoms you describe.

 Anyway, I assure you that it does work and that in fact it makes an
 excellent SDR. Once you get it going, you'll love it.

 73,
 Tony KT0NY


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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Keyboard

2012-08-02 Thread W4ATK
Yep, already done that.  All but the full wave 40M loop are fairly isolated, 
out over the garage area. The 40M loop is about 9' over my head when at the 
operating position and that was a bit of a concern. Duty cycle of course enters 
into the equation and that sorta brought things down well into the safe level 
for even 500w, so I added the safety factor of driving the KPA500 at 10W 
yielding approximately 300 W at the antenna. That accomplishes a couple of 
things, one being not have to re-purchase antenna tuners :-)) (I have tuners at 
the feed points of the various antennas, more efficient that way.)

Jim
On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

 With indoor antennas, I would not want to be in the high RF level 
 present with 500 watts.  You may be OK, but I would run the numbers 
 for the RF exposure limits present at 500 watts given the close 
 proximity to your antennas.
 
 73,
 Don, W3FPR
 
 On 8/2/2012 9:32 AM, W4ATK wrote:
 Well, I guess I was just reading into it a version of my wish list Don. I am 
 currently using a Logitech K120 from Staples. $15.95 and two RS Ferrites. 
 Seems to work OK at 100W. I tested on all bands 80 thru 10 this AM and it 
 checked out clean.  But there is a KPA500 in  my future I am thinkin'.
 
 73s Jim, W4ATK
 On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 
 Jim,
 
 My understanding is that the USB option for the SVGA board is that it will 
 *accept* a PC USB keyboard.  I have never heard that Elecraft would be 
 selling a keyboard.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 8/2/2012 9:07 AM, W4ATK wrote:
 Maybe I am mistaken but I think I heard of a USB Keyboard option for the 
 SVGA/FFT board coming from Elecraft. I use all indoor antennas so RFi 
 is pretty much a constant struggle with interconnect cabling like 
 keyboards. Ferrites everywhere. I try to go wireless where I can. Heaven 
 knows what I would be up against if I had a
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 I/Q output for pandapter

2012-08-02 Thread nr4c
Anyone have any experience with the Behringer U202 or U222 USB sound 
device?  I see a lot of regular spikes across the band.

...bill  nr4c

On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 08:46:14 -0500, Tony Estep wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Buck k4ia k...@aol.com wrote:

 ...the signals are not there - just images

 ==
 Buck, I have NaP3 running with my KX3, and it works fine. Set the 
 global
 offset to 0. NaP3 will automatically balance images if you give it a 
 strong
 signal to work on. I use my XG3 to put in a signal of S9+20 and tune 
 the
 KX3 about 20 khz above the XG3 signal. You'll see two spikes, but
 eventually the right-hand spike will diminish. You can move the 
 tuning
 around a bit, and finally you'll see the image drop to 40db or even 
 more
 below the correct signal. When an antenna is connected, the images 
 will be
 invisible in the grass.

 The cable that carries the I-Q has to be stereo 3/32 on one end and 
 stereo
 1/8 on the other end. If something is shorted in the cable, that 
 would
 cause the symptoms you describe.

 Anyway, I assure you that it does work and that in fact it makes an
 excellent SDR. Once you get it going, you'll love it.

 73,
 Tony KT0NY

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 I/Q output for pandapter

2012-08-02 Thread Mike Heitmann
Buck, 

I've had results similar to what Tony describes. I'm using a external Griffin 
iMic as the soundcard. It  works well, and I have been able to use a Virtual 
Audio Cable (VAC) to  route the NaP3 audio to a 3rd party digital mode 
application (I use  Fldigi). You still need an external cable to route the 
audio 
from the soundcard output to the mic input of the KX3, you can't use a VAC for 
that. It works just about like  my Flex radio does configured that way, except 
with full break-in CW!

My Flex-1500 is looking for a new home now.

Mike, N0SO



- Original Message 
From: Tony Estep estept...@gmail.com
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thu, August 2, 2012 9:08:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 I/Q output for pandapter

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Buck k4ia k...@aol.com wrote:

 ...the signals are not there - just images

==
Buck, I have NaP3 running with my KX3, and it works fine. Set the global
offset to 0. NaP3 will automatically balance images if you give it a strong
signal to work on. I use my XG3 to put in a signal of S9+20 and tune the
KX3 about 20 khz above the XG3 signal. You'll see two spikes, but
eventually the right-hand spike will diminish. You can move the tuning
around a bit, and finally you'll see the image drop to 40db or even more
below the correct signal. When an antenna is connected, the images will be
invisible in the grass.

The cable that carries the I-Q has to be stereo 3/32 on one end and stereo
1/8 on the other end. If something is shorted in the cable, that would
cause the symptoms you describe.

Anyway, I assure you that it does work and that in fact it makes an
excellent SDR. Once you get it going, you'll love it.

73,
Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 I/Q output for pandapter

2012-08-02 Thread KU7Y
Where do I find NaP3?

Thanks,

OK, back in my hole,

Ron, KU7Y
SOWP 5545M
Arizona Outlaws Contest Club
Brenda, AZ (Winter)
Caldwell, ID (Summer)
k...@qsl.net
http://www.hatpinsandmore.com
KX3 #0062
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 I/Q output for pandapter

2012-08-02 Thread Greg
www.telepostinc.com

Go to the LP-Pan section and Larry has the links to NAP3 there.

73
Greg

On 8/2/12, KU7Y ku7y...@gmail.com wrote:
 Where do I find NaP3?

 Thanks,

 OK, back in my hole,

 Ron, KU7Y
 SOWP 5545M
 Arizona Outlaws Contest Club
 Brenda, AZ (Winter)
 Caldwell, ID (Summer)
 k...@qsl.net
 http://www.hatpinsandmore.com
 KX3 #0062
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 I/Q output for pandapter

2012-08-02 Thread KU7Y
Thanks Greg,

Got it all OK.

OK, back in my hole,

Ron, KU7Y
SOWP 5545M
Arizona Outlaws Contest Club
Brenda, AZ (Winter)
Caldwell, ID (Summer)
k...@qsl.net
http://www.hatpinsandmore.com
KX3 #0062
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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Keyboard

2012-08-02 Thread Jim N7US
I've never had an RFI issue with Logitech wireless keyboards and mice.

73, Jim N7US



-Original Message-

Well, I guess I was just reading into it a version of my wish list Don. I am
currently using a Logitech K120 from Staples. $15.95 and two RS Ferrites.
Seems to work OK at 100W. I tested on all bands 80 thru 10 this AM and it
checked out clean.  But there is a KPA500 in  my future I am thinkin'.

73s Jim, W4ATK



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 I/Q output for pandapter

2012-08-02 Thread Barry LaZar
Ron,
 Google it. I forget. It's a free download. I'm sure that you'll 
have a lot of fun with it once you've gotten it running.

73,
Barry
K3NDM


On 8/2/2012 10:35 AM, KU7Y wrote:
 Where do I find NaP3?

 Thanks,

 OK, back in my hole,

 Ron, KU7Y
 SOWP 5545M
 Arizona Outlaws Contest Club
 Brenda, AZ (Winter)
 Caldwell, ID (Summer)
 k...@qsl.net
 http://www.hatpinsandmore.com
 KX3 #0062
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[Elecraft] Guide to KX3 Mobile Operation available

2012-08-02 Thread Wayne Burdick
Matt Zilmer (W6NIA), one of our KX3 field testers and an expert in  
mobile/portable electronic devices, has written a comprehensive  
overview of mobile operation using the KX3. (I've seen his  
installation, which puts my ad-hoc wiring to shame :)

Matt's guide is targeted at the KX3, but is applicable to mobile  
operation in general. Topics include:

   ‐ safety and legal considerations
   ‐ transceiver location and mounting
   ‐ DC power and ground cabling for the KX3 and KXPA100
   ‐ audio and speaker connections
   ‐ antennas
   ‐ mobile operating tips

A link to the article is shown below. It's also accessible from our  
home page.

   http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm#kx3_mobile

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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[Elecraft] Remote Operation

2012-08-02 Thread Dyarnes
Hi all,

Last weekend I had the privilege of being invited as a guest to the 
Northwest FOC gathering in Seattle.  The invitation came from my friend 
Shin, JA1NUT, who was in attendance.  It was wonderful to meet this fine 
fellow after so many years of having chatted with him on 40 and 20 CW.  I 
also got to meet a number of other fine folks with whom I have been enjoying 
lots of good contacts on the air.  I will tell you that this group sure 
knows how to put on a superb event.  Lots of things to do, great food to 
eat, and, of course, a lot of very interesting conversation.  Even the 
spouses have a great time.

Anyway, at our hotel we had a hospitality room in which Steve, W7QC, had set 
up his K3.  We were on the top floor, and they had temporarily installed a 
multi-band vertical on the roof which performed very well.  If anyone had a 
QSO with K7FOC last weekend, that was us!

One of the more interesting highlights of the operating part was provided by 
Tof, DJ6ZM, who was also in attendance.  He has his station in Munich 
remoted, and we even had a contact between Tof, in one room, and K7FOC, in 
the adjoining room!  Tof uses the Remoterig system, and only has to bring 
one of the two pieces of the Remoterig system, plus the remote head from his 
TS-480--and a paddle, of course!  Tof's setup in Munich is rather elaborate, 
in that he can actually control several different operating positions, and 
several different antennas. all of which are very substantial.  However, the 
system doesn't need to be so elaborate in order to communicate effectively. 
Nonetheless, his is an awesome system.

This wasn't my first exposure to a remote setup, as Paul, W9AC, had also 
shown me his remote setup a couple of years back when we were all at FDIM in 
Dayton.  Paul uses the TS-480 also, but with a slightly different method of 
remote operation, which involves having twin K1EL keyers, one at each end. 
That system worked very well also.

In any event, I'm getting very keen on being able to set up some sort of 
remote system of my own.  As most of you know, Elecraft now has its own 
remote system using the K3/0 remote module.  I've not seen that one in 
operation, but I'm sure it works equally well.  So, you have several 
commercial options available currently.  If you are a K3 owner, the K3/0 may 
well be your preference since it gives you pretty much complete duplication 
of all the K3's capabilities from your remote location.  This is 
particularly attractive if your remote location is some place where you can 
establish a somewhat semi-permanent setup, like a summer home, etc.  As a 
portable, traveling unit it might be somewhat less attractive due to size, 
but perhaps not.  We tend to view the K3 as a reasonably portable unit, and 
the K3/0 is no bigger.  You still need something like the Remoterig devices, 
but it only adds a small additional amount to what you have to transport. 
Alternatively, however, you could use a rig like the TS-480, and only have 
to transport one side of the Remoterig setup plus the 480's remote head--a 
somewhat smaller, more convenient package for traveling.

I'm still sorting out in my mind all the requirements for operating in this 
fashion, but it is most intriguing.  It's also pretty impressive when you 
have something like W9AC's system, or DJ6Zm's system, as to what you can do 
and how effective it is.  I'm currently up here in Oregon for the rest of 
the summer, and something like this would be very useful.  I can set up a 
modest station here, but antennas are an issue.  I have an extremely limited 
space in which to erect anything.  I am getting close to deciding that 
remote operation may be my best option.  I can still use something like my 
KX3 for local operation, but a remote system tends to eliminate 
complexities with various locations I might find myself in as we travel.

Anyhow, just thought I would pass on my impressions from my recent 
observations.  It's just another way to have fun with ham radio.

Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Keyboard

2012-08-02 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Hi Jim, 

Those inexpensive adapters are passive signal converters, there is no
changing of the PS/2 keyboard protocol to USB going on in there.  Currently
the P3/SVGA board does not support PS/2 keyboards. 

73, 

Paul




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[Elecraft] KX3 Operating Tip: Determining the ATU's L/C values and L-net configuration

2012-08-02 Thread Wayne Burdick
Heinz (OE5EEP) wrote:
 The KXAT3 internal ATU works really great! I can match a dipole of  
 2x 6.8m with 7m of double-wire feedline erected as inverted V on all  
 bands from 40 to 6m  I wonder if there is a way to retrieve the  
 L/C combinations and values used to achieve a match. Is this  
 somewhere hidden in the menu?


You can't get L-network information via the menu. But you can send an  
AK; (ATU relay settings) command from the KX3 Utility Command  
Tester. This command is intended for use during automated factory test  
but may be of interest to operators as well.

The response format is “AKaabbcc;”, where:

   aa = inductance bitmap in ASCII hex format
   bb = capacitance bitmap in ASCII hex format
   cc = misc relays bitmap in ASCII hex format

At present only bit 0 of byte cc is defined:

   00 = capacitance on antenna side
   01 = capacitance on transmitter side

Example: Suppose you get back AK031A01;. First convert the hex  
quantities to binary:

   03 = 0011 (L)
   1A = 00011010 (C)
   01 = 0001 (network selection)

Now compare these values to the KXAT3 schematic. 0011 for L means  
that two smallest inductors are switched in. Add these together to  
determine the total L value. Similarly, add up the selected capacitors  
based on the binary value 00011010. Finally, you can determine the  
network configuration from the value 0001. In this case, the  
capacitance is on the transmitter side of the series inductance.

If the ATU is not installed, or if the ATU MD menu entry parameter is  
set to one of the L/C test values, “AK00;” is returned.

If the ATU is in “bypass” mode, quasi-bypass values are shown. (These  
were selected to approximately cancel out the ATU's own stray  
reactance on each band.)

In AUTO mode, the working auto-tuned values are shown.

Wayne



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 Operating Tip: Determining the ATU's L/C values and L-net configuration

2012-08-02 Thread Bob
Wayne,

With the magic decoder ring, that is easy to understand -- thanks!

But, I can't help but think that having the KX3 Utility Program decode that
and display the values might be pretty neat.  Maybe someday in the far
distant future when there isn't anything better to do.

73, Bob, WB4SON

You can't get L-network information via the menu. But you can send an
AK; (ATU relay settings) command from the KX3 Utility Command Tester.
This command is intended for use during automated factory test but may be
of interest to operators as well.
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[Elecraft] KXAT3 L and C values

2012-08-02 Thread Wayne Burdick
I wrote:

 You can't get L-network information via the menu. But you can send an
 AK; (ATU relay settings) command from the KX3 Utility Command
 Testercompare these values to the KXAT3 schematic.

We're still working on getting the schematics formatted for  
publication. Meanwhile, here are the approximate L and C values:

  L:   8, 4, 2, 1, 0.5, 0.25, 0.12, and 0.06 uH

  C:   1360, 680, 330, 164, 82, 39, 18, 10 pF

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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[Elecraft] K3 plain-language saved configuration?

2012-08-02 Thread Dave Hachadorian
Is there a utility somewhere that will convert a K3 saved 
configuration from gobbledygook to plain language?  I'd like to 
share config data with another ham, but I know I can't just send 
him my saved config file.

Thanks!

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Big Bear Lake, California 

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[Elecraft] KX3 Shipping notice received

2012-08-02 Thread Van W1WCG
Woo Hoo!!
Got email from April advising that my KX3 kit ordered on
Mar 5 (2218-2672-7249) will ship 8/3-8/10.  Salivating!

73, Van W1WCG

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Operating Tip: Determining the ATU's L/C values and L-net configuration

2012-08-02 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
 Wayne == Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com writes:


Wayne You can't get L-network information via the menu. But you can send 
an  
Wayne AK; (ATU relay settings) command from the KX3 Utility Command  
Wayne Tester. This command is intended for use during automated
Wayne factory test   
Wayne but may be of interest to operators as well.

Will you please make this available on the K3 as well, at some point?

Pf


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Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Keyboard

2012-08-02 Thread W4ATK
The K120 is a bit sensitive. Reduced the power to see where it cleared up and 
added a couple of ferrites. Good to go.

73s Jim

On Aug 2, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Jim N7US wrote:

 I've never had an RFI issue with Logitech wireless keyboards and mice.
 
 73, Jim N7US
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 Well, I guess I was just reading into it a version of my wish list Don. I am
 currently using a Logitech K120 from Staples. $15.95 and two RS Ferrites.
 Seems to work OK at 100W. I tested on all bands 80 thru 10 this AM and it
 checked out clean.  But there is a KPA500 in  my future I am thinkin'.
 
 73s Jim, W4ATK
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] KX3 Mobile installs

2012-08-02 Thread Keith Heimbold
I am interested in how people are doing their KX3 mobile Installs.

I plan to use use my KX3 in my older Silverado and was curious about how people 
have theirs in the mobile configuration.  I had my KX3 connected temporarily to 
a 20m ham stick and it really did awesome!  The noise blanker was amazing. It 
eliminated all internal car generated noise. 

My goal is a modular install so I can remove my KX3 for portable operations. I 
would like to see any and all install configurations. 

Thanks,

Keith
AG6AZ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 plain-language saved configuration?

2012-08-02 Thread Cady, Fred
Ham Radio Deluxe used to be able to do that, but I haven't used that in
a couple of years.
73,
Fred

Fred Cady
The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation
fcady at ieee dot org 

 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
 boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Hachadorian
 Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:13 PM
 To: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 plain-language saved configuration?
 
 Is there a utility somewhere that will convert a K3 saved
 configuration from gobbledygook to plain language?  I'd like to
 share config data with another ham, but I know I can't just send
 him my saved config file.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Big Bear Lake, California
 
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[Elecraft] K3- Diversity mode cw filter BW ??

2012-08-02 Thread callen1155

Hello folks.

I'm planning on ordering the second receiver for my K3 soon and have a
question.

When using the second receiver in 'diversity mode' and trying to dig out a
weak and fading cw signal, what 
roofing filter do you find most effective? 

I'm assuming in those conditions the narrower the better. I currently have a
400 Hz in my main receiver 
and would prefer to just match it with a second 400 Hz for the sub RX. 
Also, the 400 seems fine as far as crowded band conditions.

I understand some question this but based on my experience, my ears get a
boost of improved (SNR) noise 
reduction when the 400 Hz kicks in (as compared to when i only had the 2.7
kHz and narrowed to 400 with 
only the DSP). I can't help but wonder if having matching 200 Hz filters
would improve copy-ability in diversity mode over the 400 Hz ones?

So when using diversity mode for that weak cw signal, has anyone with both
the 200 Hz and 400 Hz filters 
noticed any meaningful difference between the two?

thanks for any advice.
chuck
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Re: [Elecraft] K3- Diversity mode cw filter BW ??

2012-08-02 Thread N5GE
Diversity mode is used to reduce fading on received signals.  Although using
narrow filters to listen to CW signals will improve your ability to hear the
signals, but it will not reduce fading of the signals, as diversity receiving
does very well if your antennas are placed properly.

Diversity receive requires two antennas that are active during RX. This is why
you will install an AUX antenna connection with the sub RX.

Google diversity receiving to learn how and why it helps with communications.

Regarding your question about CW filter bandwidth:

I have in the RX and KRX3 identical filters for CW.  1000Hz, 400Hz and 200Hz
(Matched).  If I had it to do again I would choose for CW the 500Hz matched pair
instead of the 400Hz.  I use the 1000Hz very seldom, so I probably would not
have it except for when working split in pileups where I might want to hear more
spectrum where the DX station is Listening.

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 13:07:30 -0700 (PDT), callen1155 callen1...@yahoo.com
wrote:


Hello folks.

I'm planning on ordering the second receiver for my K3 soon and have a
question.

When using the second receiver in 'diversity mode' and trying to dig out a
weak and fading cw signal, what 
roofing filter do you find most effective? 

I'm assuming in those conditions the narrower the better. I currently have a
400 Hz in my main receiver 
and would prefer to just match it with a second 400 Hz for the sub RX. 
Also, the 400 seems fine as far as crowded band conditions.

I understand some question this but based on my experience, my ears get a
boost of improved (SNR) noise 
reduction when the 400 Hz kicks in (as compared to when i only had the 2.7
kHz and narrowed to 400 with 
only the DSP). I can't help but wonder if having matching 200 Hz filters
would improve copy-ability in diversity mode over the 400 Hz ones?

So when using diversity mode for that weak cw signal, has anyone with both
the 200 Hz and 400 Hz filters 
noticed any meaningful difference between the two?

thanks for any advice.
chuck
AF4XK

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 plain-language saved configuration?

2012-08-02 Thread Jim N7US
Dave,

I copied the menus into an Excel file to keep track of my settings.  I'll
send it to you directly in case that's of interest.  I previously uploaded
it to the Yahoo K3 Group files area too:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/files/ 

I'm happy to send it to anyone asking for it.

73, Jim N7US


-Original Message-

Is there a utility somewhere that will convert a K3 saved configuration from
gobbledygook to plain language?  I'd like to share config data with another
ham, but I know I can't just send him my saved config file.

Thanks!

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Big Bear Lake, California 



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[Elecraft] FWIW - Elecraft ATU L/C Ranges - All Models

2012-08-02 Thread Mike Morrow
FWIW, I posted a summary of the *different* L and C configurations
and their value ranges for various Elecraft ATUs.  It may have shown
up with poor readability if viewed in rich text format.  I also
neglected the KAT2.  Below is information for all Elecraft tuners,
in an arrangement less sensitive to browser or e-mail reader
text formatting:

ELECRAFT ATU L AND C CONFIGURATIONS:

KAT1, Configs=1020, L=0 to 4.9 uH (16 steps), C=0 to 300 pF (32 steps)

KAT2, Configs=131068, L=0 to 20.7 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2420 pF (256 steps)

KAT3, Configs=131068, L=0 to 17.4 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2600 pF (256 steps)

KXAT1, Configs=124, L=0 to 4.5 uH (8 steps), C=0 to 140 pF (8 steps)

KXAT3, Configs=131068, L=0 to 15.9 uH (256 steps), C=0 to 2680 pF (256 steps) 

T1, Configs=32764, L=0 to 7.5 uH (128 steps), C=0 to 1300 pF (128 steps)

BASIS:

The reactance configuration for all Elecraft is series inductance, with a
capacitance connected to common before (radio side) or after (antenna side)
the inductance (but not both) by a relay.

The number of steps (NL) of inductive reactance possible is 2 raised to the
number of inductance switching relays.  All step sizes are equal, within the
limits of practical tolerance or value availability.  It is equal to the
maximum value of inductance divided by NL.

The number of steps (NC) of capacitive reactance possible is 2 raised to the
number of capacitance switching relays.  All step sizes are equal, within the
limits of practical tolerance or value availability.  It is equal to the
maximum value of capacitance dividedby NC.

The total number of all *possible* configurations is NL * NC * 2.

However, if the total inductance has been set to zero, it doesn't matter
which side ofthe inductance the capacitance is placed.  Likewise, if the
total capacitance has beenset to zero, it doesn't matter which side of the
inductance the capacitance is placed.This eliminates four of the possibilities.

The total number of all *different* configurations is (NL * NC * 2) - 4.

Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Operating Tip: Determining the ATU's L/C values and L-net configuration

2012-08-02 Thread Wayne Burdick
Noted for a future release.

Thanks,
Wayne
N6KR

On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote:

 Wayne == Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com writes:


Wayne You can't get L-network information via the menu. But you  
 can send an
Wayne AK; (ATU relay settings) command from the KX3 Utility  
 Command
Wayne Tester. This command is intended for use during automated
Wayne factory test
Wayne but may be of interest to operators as well.

 Will you please make this available on the K3 as well, at some point?

 Pf


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 hookup

2012-08-02 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Alan,

I have the SmallIR and will confirm what a wonderful experience it is to
use.  We get what we pay for. The quality is excellent.  I will save these
directions for future use.  Right now I don't have the interface in the
original Steppir controller.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Alan Bloom
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:38 PM
To: n...@nf4l.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 hookup

It should work either way, but it would be better to put the SteppIR Y
RS-232 cable on the PC side of the P3 instead of the K3 side.  As Dick
mentioned, then you aren't limited to 38400 baud.  And also there is less
traffic on that side, which may be less confusing to the SteppIR.

BTW, I will be getting a SteppIR antenna here at N1AL soon so I can try it
out myself.

Alan N1AL


On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 19:01 -0400, Mike wrote:
 Thanks, Mike.
 
 Just to make sure my age fuzzed brain got it:
 
 The Y stays where it is, plugged into the K3. The cable from the 
 computer moves from that to the P3, then the shorty goes from the P3 
 to the Y.
 
 73, Mike NF4L
 
 On 8/1/12 2:00 PM, Mike K2MK wrote:
  Hi Mike,
 
  Think of the leg of the Y cable that goes to the K3 as the Elecraft leg.
  Take the cable that now goes to the K3 and move it to the P3. Then 
  take the short serial cable supplied with the P3 and connect it 
  between the P3 and the K3.
 
  73,
  Mike K2MK
 
 
 
  Mike-14-3 wrote
  I've got a P3 coming, and just downloaded the manual. If I 
  understand correctly from the diagram on p 13, the RS232 path is
  Computer---P3---K3.
 
  Currently I have a y cable plugged into the K3. The cable from 
  the 'puter plugs into one leg of that, and the other leg goes to 
  the SteppIR control box.
 
  Do I leave that where it is?
 
  73, Mike NF4L
 
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] Re item 9 -Linkedin

2012-08-02 Thread David Dunn
I have been getting these mails quite often. for a year or two   now.
  I regard them as Spam although no  virus or malware has been found yet.
 73  de David G3SCD/VK3DBD
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[Elecraft] Timeline for Shipping the KXBC3??

2012-08-02 Thread Michael E. Califf,Sr
Is there a timeline yet for the shipping of the KXBC3??
Was just wondering some kind of an idea.

Michael E. Califf,Sr. AB7OC

KX3  #802
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Re: [Elecraft] Re item 9 -Linkedin

2012-08-02 Thread Gary K9GS
Hello David,

This is one of my big gripes about LinkedIn.  When you first sign up, in 
order to get your business/social network going you need to enter e-mail 
addresses of your contacts.

LinkedIn offers to do this for you by reading your address book. The 
unfortunate thing about this is that they really don't explain very well 
what they're doing and how they're doing it and I think this is by 
design.  It's just so easy to miss the fine print and click on OK.

So, if you have any mail reflector addresses in your address book this 
is how these get posted.


On 8/2/2012 4:35 PM, David Dunn wrote:
 I have been getting these mails quite often. for a year or two   now.
I regard them as Spam although no  virus or malware has been found yet.
   73  de David G3SCD/VK3DBD
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Re: [Elecraft] Timeline for Shipping the KXBC3??

2012-08-02 Thread Bruce Beford
An OP posted on the KX3 Yahoo Group that he inquired about this today, and
was told likely in September.
73,
Bruce, N1RX
 
 Is there a timeline yet for the shipping of the KXBC3??
 Was just wondering some kind of an idea.
 
 Michael E. Califf,Sr. AB7OC
 KX3  #802

 

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[Elecraft] KX3 Rec'd today

2012-08-02 Thread pkhjr
Received my KX3 ordered 2/17 serial # 1040.  Love the radio  The only
problem so far is the noise generated I guess generated by the encoder.  I
tried removing the felt pad between the knob and the chassis and the noise
is still there...?

73 Tex
ka5y



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Rec'd today

2012-08-02 Thread Andrew Moore
Tex - if you're referring to the scratchy mechanical noise that occurs when
you rotate the encoder even when the KX3 is powered off, it seems that can
be solved by carefully removing the main tuning knob (remove rubber sleeve
to access the hex screw opening), carefully removing the circlip and washer
from the shaft, and polishing/greasing them. There is no need to remove the
nut that secures the encoder.

Here's a post on the subject by Mike / W5EEA. I went through this process
myself and it cured the scratchy. I did not polish the circlip or attempt
to flatten the washer - I only applied some fine polishing creme for all
metals to each side of the washer and polished that with a Dremel tool,
then applied some white lithium grease to both sides and put it all back
together. Scratchy is about 95 percent gone.

Please be careful.. and obviously this is not an Elecraft-endorsed mod.

Mike's post follows.

73,
--Andrew, NV1B
..

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From: mikew5...@hotmail.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: KX3 encoder noise fixfor some
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:39:52 -0600

PLEASE DO NOT TRY THIS FIX..unless you read this and think 'I have no
problem doing this'. There is every chance you will loose parts or make
things worse than they were (or may end up buying a new encoder).
 I found the scrapping/scratching stopped if you invert the radio and
turned the knob.
If you remove the knob you can see a C clip on the shaft over a washer
resting on the body of the encoder. On mine the noise was coming from the
surface finish between the washer and the clip. The washer rotates a little
each turn and that is why the noise does not happen at the same spot in the
rotation of the knob. Remove the washer and clip, make them flat and polish
them, put them back on with a good silicone grease and it feels like a K3
VFO. If you think SM parts are small you will never see what needs to be
done to the washer and clip.
 PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not stick a screwdriver in your had or ding up
your very nice new KX3 that works *just fine* without this fix if this is
not something that sounds easy for you to do. (I work at Lockheed where we
make some REALLY NICE little gizmos - that's where I got the 'practice' for
this kind work)

---


On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:55 PM, pkhjr k...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Received my KX3 ordered 2/17 serial # 1040.  Love the radio  The only
 problem so far is the noise generated I guess generated by the encoder.  I
 tried removing the felt pad between the knob and the chassis and the noise
 is still there...?

 73 Tex
 ka5y



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Rec'd today

2012-08-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
The other method is to just ignore it and use it for a week or two 
until it wears in
I thought mine was stiff and quirky when I first got it, but it is not 
smooth as silk - there is still just sufficient drag to prevent the 
knob from turning accidentally in a mobile of portable situation - just 
a bit more drag than I use on my K2 or K3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/2/2012 7:20 PM, Andrew Moore wrote:
 Tex - if you're referring to the scratchy mechanical noise that occurs when
 you rotate the encoder even when the KX3 is powered off, it seems that can
 be solved by carefully removing the main tuning knob (remove rubber sleeve
 to access the hex screw opening), carefully removing the circlip and washer
 from the shaft, and polishing/greasing them. There is no need to remove the
 nut that secures the encoder.

 Here's a post on the subject by Mike / W5EEA. I went through this process
 myself and it cured the scratchy. I did not polish the circlip or attempt
 to flatten the washer - I only applied some fine polishing creme for all
 metals to each side of the washer and polished that with a Dremel tool,
 then applied some white lithium grease to both sides and put it all back
 together. Scratchy is about 95 percent gone.

 Please be careful.. and obviously this is not an Elecraft-endorsed mod.



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[Elecraft] KAT-500

2012-08-02 Thread Hunsdon Cary III
Originally Elecraft estimated an August 15 shipping date for the KAT-500 but, 
realistically, did you really believe it?
Of course not, delays are bound to come along and if it ships during the Aug 
31-Sept 7 window now posted, I'll be a happy hambut realistically, 
it might be later but it'll be worth it.   At Dayton, I ordered the 2nd KAT-500 
and am looking forward to receiving it!
73,
Cary, K4TM
LYNCHBURG VA

H. Cary III
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT-500

2012-08-02 Thread Bob
Maybe a pool should be run based on 1st shipping date.  When I placed the order 
(by phone on 18 May) I thought maybe Sept 18th for 1st shipment.  I still want 
that date in any pool.

Interesting comment on ordering a 2nd at Dayton.  That implies there was an 
earlier 1st.  I thought the initial order taking was the 1st day of Dayton.   
So 
when and where the 1st orders taken?   Hope I don't find I'm two weeks down on 
the list already.

73,
Bob
K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956)  K2TKR


On 8/2/2012 8:14 PM, Hunsdon Cary III wrote:
 Originally Elecraft estimated an August 15 shipping date for the KAT-500 but, 
 realistically, did you really believe it?
 Of course not, delays are bound to come along and if it ships during the Aug 
 31-Sept 7 window now posted, I'll be a happy hambut realistically,
 it might be later but it'll be worth it.   At Dayton, I ordered the 2nd 
 KAT-500 and am looking forward to receiving it!
 73,
 Cary, K4TM
 LYNCHBURG VA

 H. Cary III
 h3c...@gmail.com



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Re: [Elecraft] Timeline for Shipping the KXBC3??

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Probably at least 30 days past that.

Eric
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On 8/2/2012 3:35 PM, Bruce Beford wrote:
 An OP posted on the KX3 Yahoo Group that he inquired about this today, and
 was told likely in September.
 73,
 Bruce, N1RX
   
 Is there a timeline yet for the shipping of the KXBC3??
 Was just wondering some kind of an idea.
   
 Michael E. Califf,Sr. AB7OC
 KX3  #802
   

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Re: [Elecraft] Timeline for Shipping the KXBC3??

2012-08-02 Thread Bruce Beford
FB, Eric. 
See you in Boxboro MA later this month.
73,
Bruce, N1RX

-Original Message-
From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:01 PM
To: Bruce Beford
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Timeline for Shipping the KXBC3??

Probably at least 30 days past that.

Eric
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On 8/2/2012 3:35 PM, Bruce Beford wrote:
 An OP posted on the KX3 Yahoo Group that he inquired about this today, and
 was told likely in September.
 73,
 Bruce, N1RX
   
 Is there a timeline yet for the shipping of the KXBC3??
 Was just wondering some kind of an idea.
   
 Michael E. Califf,Sr. AB7OC
 KX3  #802
   

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT-500

2012-08-02 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Please, no more polls.  I am filling up my Outlook with so many filters that
I might actually miss something important.  I believe Elecraft is working to
make the dateline set on the site.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


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Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 8:00 PM
To: Hunsdon Cary III
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT-500

Maybe a pool should be run based on 1st shipping date.  When I placed the
order (by phone on 18 May) I thought maybe Sept 18th for 1st shipment.  I
still want that date in any pool.

Interesting comment on ordering a 2nd at Dayton.  That implies there was an 
earlier 1st.  I thought the initial order taking was the 1st day of Dayton.
So 
when and where the 1st orders taken?   Hope I don't find I'm two weeks down
on 
the list already.

73,
Bob
K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956)  K2TKR


On 8/2/2012 8:14 PM, Hunsdon Cary III wrote:
 Originally Elecraft estimated an August 15 shipping date for the KAT-500
but, realistically, did you really believe it?
 Of course not, delays are bound to come along and if it ships during the
Aug 31-Sept 7 window now posted, I'll be a happy hambut realistically,
 it might be later but it'll be worth it.   At Dayton, I ordered the 2nd
KAT-500 and am looking forward to receiving it!
 73,
 Cary, K4TM
 LYNCHBURG VA

 H. Cary III
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Rec'd today

2012-08-02 Thread kp4y
I was notified today that my KX3 is on the way, yeah! I know that I will like 
it the same way I like my K3, but when I hear issues like this and the case 
vibration, I wonder if I made a good decision. Are these issues not getting 
worked out at factory as we speak? At near $1,400 for a QRP rig, this is an 
expensive toy as to be needing this type of home made fixes

73's
Robert - KP4Y 




Sent from Samsung tabletAndrew Moore andrew.n...@gmail.com wrote:Tex - if 
you're referring to the scratchy mechanical noise that occurs when
you rotate the encoder even when the KX3 is powered off, it seems that can
be solved by carefully removing the main tuning knob (remove rubber sleeve
to access the hex screw opening), carefully removing the circlip and washer
from the shaft, and polishing/greasing them. There is no need to remove the
nut that secures the encoder.

Here's a post on the subject by Mike / W5EEA. I went through this process
myself and it cured the scratchy. I did not polish the circlip or attempt
to flatten the washer - I only applied some fine polishing creme for all
metals to each side of the washer and polished that with a Dremel tool,
then applied some white lithium grease to both sides and put it all back
together. Scratchy is about 95 percent gone.

Please be careful.. and obviously this is not an Elecraft-endorsed mod.

Mike's post follows.

73,
--Andrew, NV1B
..

---

From: mikew5...@hotmail.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: KX3 encoder noise fixfor some
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:39:52 -0600

PLEASE DO NOT TRY THIS FIX..unless you read this and think 'I have no
problem doing this'. There is every chance you will loose parts or make
things worse than they were (or may end up buying a new encoder).
I found the scrapping/scratching stopped if you invert the radio and
turned the knob.
If you remove the knob you can see a C clip on the shaft over a washer
resting on the body of the encoder. On mine the noise was coming from the
surface finish between the washer and the clip. The washer rotates a little
each turn and that is why the noise does not happen at the same spot in the
rotation of the knob. Remove the washer and clip, make them flat and polish
them, put them back on with a good silicone grease and it feels like a K3
VFO. If you think SM parts are small you will never see what needs to be
done to the washer and clip.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not stick a screwdriver in your had or ding up
your very nice new KX3 that works *just fine* without this fix if this is
not something that sounds easy for you to do. (I work at Lockheed where we
make some REALLY NICE little gizmos - that's where I got the 'practice' for
this kind work)

---


On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:55 PM, pkhjr k...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Received my KX3 ordered 2/17 serial # 1040.  Love the radio  The only
 problem so far is the noise generated I guess generated by the encoder.  I
 tried removing the felt pad between the knob and the chassis and the noise
 is still there...?

 73 Tex
 ka5y



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[Elecraft] [K3] Intermitent Keying

2012-08-02 Thread David Guernsey
My K3/10 intermittently goes into xmit without my pushing the PTT.  Operating 
on 80 meter band (3.952 MHz) LSB.  Any ideas from anybody would be appreciated.

 
73 de Dave KJ6CBS
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Intermitent Keying

2012-08-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave,

Any chance that you have VOX turned on?  That may allow noise to send 
the K3 into transmit.  Yes, PTT works even if VOX is selected.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/2/2012 9:40 PM, David Guernsey wrote:
 My K3/10 intermittently goes into xmit without my pushing the PTT.  Operating 
 on 80 meter band (3.952 MHz) LSB.  Any ideas from anybody would be 
 appreciated.

   


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Intermitent Keying

2012-08-02 Thread David Guernsey
Thanks Don.  I must have accidentally turned the VOX on.  Turned it off and 
problem went away.  Prior to turning VOX off, I was getting ERR KEY in the VFO 
B part of the LED display.  Hopefully the VOX was the problem.

 
73 de Dave KJ6CBS



 From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
To: David Guernsey mooo1...@yahoo.com 
Cc: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Intermitent Keying
 
Dave,

Any chance that you have VOX turned on?  That may allow noise to send the K3 
into transmit.  Yes, PTT works even if VOX is selected.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/2/2012 9:40 PM, David Guernsey wrote:
 My K3/10 intermittently goes into xmit without my pushing the PTT.  Operating 
 on 80 meter band (3.952 MHz) LSB.  Any ideas from anybody would be 
 appreciated.
 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Rec'd today

2012-08-02 Thread John Strandberg
Robert -  I've been a little bit wondering same as you.  It would appear my
KX3 will ship some weeks from now.  There have been over 1000 shipped now.
 I wonder if this is just low level reflector static or if the 'issues' are
significant.  Unlike you, I also want but don't own a K3.

73 John W4DX

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:36 PM, kp4y k...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I was notified today that my KX3 is on the way, yeah! I know that I will
 like it the same way I like my K3, but when I hear issues like this and the
 case vibration, I wonder if I made a good decision. Are these issues not
 getting worked out at factory as we speak? At near $1,400 for a QRP rig,
 this is an expensive toy as to be needing this type of home made fixes

 73's
 Robert - KP4Y




 Sent from Samsung tabletAndrew Moore andrew.n...@gmail.com wrote:Tex -
 if you're referring to the scratchy mechanical noise that occurs when
 you rotate the encoder even when the KX3 is powered off, it seems that can
 be solved by carefully removing the main tuning knob (remove rubber sleeve
 to access the hex screw opening), carefully removing the circlip and washer
 from the shaft, and polishing/greasing them. There is no need to remove the
 nut that secures the encoder.

 Here's a post on the subject by Mike / W5EEA. I went through this process
 myself and it cured the scratchy. I did not polish the circlip or attempt
 to flatten the washer - I only applied some fine polishing creme for all
 metals to each side of the washer and polished that with a Dremel tool,
 then applied some white lithium grease to both sides and put it all back
 together. Scratchy is about 95 percent gone.

 Please be careful.. and obviously this is not an Elecraft-endorsed mod.

 Mike's post follows.

 73,
 --Andrew, NV1B
 ..

 ---

 From: mikew5...@hotmail.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: KX3 encoder noise fixfor some
 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:39:52 -0600

 PLEASE DO NOT TRY THIS FIX..unless you read this and think 'I have no
 problem doing this'. There is every chance you will loose parts or make
 things worse than they were (or may end up buying a new encoder).
 I found the scrapping/scratching stopped if you invert the radio and
 turned the knob.
 If you remove the knob you can see a C clip on the shaft over a washer
 resting on the body of the encoder. On mine the noise was coming from the
 surface finish between the washer and the clip. The washer rotates a little
 each turn and that is why the noise does not happen at the same spot in the
 rotation of the knob. Remove the washer and clip, make them flat and polish
 them, put them back on with a good silicone grease and it feels like a K3
 VFO. If you think SM parts are small you will never see what needs to be
 done to the washer and clip.
 PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not stick a screwdriver in your had or ding up
 your very nice new KX3 that works *just fine* without this fix if this is
 not something that sounds easy for you to do. (I work at Lockheed where we
 make some REALLY NICE little gizmos - that's where I got the 'practice' for
 this kind work)

 ---


 On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:55 PM, pkhjr k...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Received my KX3 ordered 2/17 serial # 1040.  Love the radio  The only
  problem so far is the noise generated I guess generated by the encoder.
 I
  tried removing the felt pad between the knob and the chassis and the
 noise
  is still there...?
 
  73 Tex
  ka5y
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT-500

2012-08-02 Thread FredJensen
While working with a Marine BG and his staff on a battlefield 
maintenance system, the General continued to press for schedule 
compression.  He asked for a ball park estimate, and my somewhat older 
and more experienced colleague said, General ... Good -- Fast -- 
Cheap.  Pick two.  My KAT500 will arrive when it arrives.  In the end, 
everything is what it is, and in the meantime, I continue to enjoy my 
K-Line.  Well ... I'll continue as soon as we get home, been with family 
in Sparks NV for a week.

73

Fred K6DGW/7

On 8/3/2012 12:14 AM, Hunsdon Cary III wrote:
 Originally Elecraft estimated an August 15 shipping date for the KAT-500 but, 
 realistically, did you really believe it?
 Of course not, delays are bound to come along and if it ships during the Aug 
 31-Sept 7 window now posted, I'll be a happy hambut realistically,
 it might be later but it'll be worth it.   At Dayton, I ordered the 2nd 
 KAT-500 and am looking forward to receiving it!
 73,
 Cary, K4TM
 LYNCHBURG VA

 H. Cary III
 h3c...@gmail.com



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[Elecraft] [K2] KPA100 - Failure to be recognised - Troubleshooting question

2012-08-02 Thread Bill Coleman

OK, my K2/100 has been operational since October 2002. Very recently, I started 
to get some INFO 080 errors, and then the K2 completely failed to recognize the 
KPA100.

Looking at it on the bench, the Vdd at Pin 1 and 20 of U1 of the KPA100 is 
about 1 volt. OK, if the PIC doesn't get enough voltage, it is no wonder why 
the K2 doesn't recognize it.

I removed the U1 chip, and the voltage rises to about 1.1 volts. U3 (the 
voltage regulator) is warm to the touch, which tells me it is likely current 
limiting.

Pulled U3 off the board and it tests just fine (although I'll replace it with a 
new part because now it is rather smoogly). Put an ohmmeter across the 5volt 
point and ground and I read 13.8 ohms. Hmm. That's in the ballpark.

SO -- it's probably either U4 - the MAX1406 or U6 - the EL5146C chip that's 
gone bad and is shorted out internally. I don't see any evidence of a solder 
bridge or flake or other issue. I suppose I'll order some replacements.

Question: Which chip should I remove first? I'm leaning toward the EL5146C, 
since I was getting some odd-ball power output behavior before the INFO 080 
issue raised up. Plus, it has fewer pins than the MAX1406….

Any other suggestions as to why either of these chips might have failed?

Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: aa...@arrl.net
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[Elecraft] K3 Phones / Diversity Question

2012-08-02 Thread Jim Bennett
I just recently added the sub receiver to my K3. I've been using the Sub 
receiver (without diversity turned on) and all was fine. I have the Yamaha 
CM500 headset - one cable plugged into the Phones jack and the other going to 
the Mic jack. I also have an Icom SP-20 external speaker, and it's connected to 
the Spkrs jack. 

Well, I engaged Diversity mode and at first thought it was working properly. 
But, when I turned the AF to zero on the Main receiver, I realized that the 
audio on the Sub was almost nonexistent signals are there, but really, really 
weak. OK, so looking at the Config parameters, I noticed in the KRX3 manual 
that SPKRS should be set to 1. Mine was set to 2. I changed it to one and now 
have zero audio coming from the Sub receiver. Not exactly what I was hoping for.

What do I need to do to get my headphone audio in Diversity mode to act as it 
does with the Sub turned on, but Diversity off? 

Confused, I am.

Jim / W6JHB
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[Elecraft] LiFePO4 Battery Pack Performance

2012-08-02 Thread John Lally
I recently purchased a 4 cell LiFePO4  12.8v 4.5ah battery.  I fully charged
the battery to 14.4v and then hooked it up to my KX3.  Total hours of run
time = 21.4 hrs.  Settings = backlight off, high power and all the other
settings in normal positions.  I transmitted in ssb for what would be a
normal transmit / receive cycle.  I received in ssb and psk 31.

 

John Lally

W7JJL

 

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[Elecraft] KX3 I/Q output for pandapter

2012-08-02 Thread Richard Fjeld
Tony,

Do you have to do this every time you want to operate?

Richard Fjeld, NØCE


Buck, I have NaP3 running with my KX3, and it works fine. Set the global
offset to 0. NaP3 will automatically balance images if you give it a strong
signal to work on. I use my XG3 to put in a signal of S9+20 and tune the
KX3 about 20 khz above the XG3 signal. You'll see two spikes, but
eventually the right-hand spike will diminish. You can move the tuning
around a bit, and finally you'll see the image drop to 40db or even more
below the correct signal. When an antenna is connected, the images will be
invisible in the grass.




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