Re: [Elecraft] AX1 40 meter coil with KH1

[Bill Johnson]

>From what I have read, the coil is usable with an external antenna not the KH1 
>antenna.

Bill
K9YEQ

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2024 9:26:58 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AX1 40 meter coil with KH1

On 3/5/2024 9:28 AM, William Combs via Elecraft wrote:

> I was wondering if the 40 meter coil from the AX1 could be used with
> the KH1.

Howdy William...

I use the AXE with the KH1 for 40m with the 32ft counterpoise from the
AXE kit. I am able to get a good enough match to operate on 40m and have
made POTA contacts with that setup.

When I move to the higher bands, I just leave the long counterpoise
connected. The KH1 doesn't mind and matches the higher bands fine.

I have not kept notes on my matched SWR readings, but I should. I'm
usually wanting to get the activation moving and get it done. Maybe I
should just take the little rig out in the front yard and play a little. ;)

73 de AG7TX

--
David Thompson, AG7TX

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500 Loses Match

[Bill Johnson]

Good advice

Bill
K9YEQ

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Ken WA8JXM 
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2024 5:52:52 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500 Loses Match

It's possible that something is arcing and, of course changing the  tuning.

Do you have the internal tuner in the K4?  If so, does it behave the
same way?

Why do you have the amplifier running?  30m is as restricted power band.

If you leave the amp and tuner out of the circuit and transmit with the
K4 directly, does the SWR meter stay steady, or does it fluctuate at
full power?

Ken WA8JXM

Why is the amplifier connected?  30m is a restricted powerband.

On 1/12/2024 4:46 PM, Paul Ecker wrote:
> I am experiencing a new problem for me, with my KAT 500. So far I've
> noticed this issue on 30M. I am using a dipole cut only for 30M with an SWR
> of 1.2 to 1.3 max SWR across the band. I “trained the tuner” at 20khz
> segments on 30M.
>
> Setup is K4D, KAT 500 & KPA 500. Win 10 pc.
>
> Running CW, I can start transmitting and all is fine- my LP100A is showing
> 1.2 SWR and am getting max power out of the radio. Then all of sudden the
> SWR jumps to >9.0. The KAT starts chattering and finds a new match. But if
> I start transmitting again – pwr out is only about 10 W at that new match,
> and eventually the tuner becomes untuned again. Sometimes, it will then
> hold the tune but still only getting abt 9-10w power out. The issue occurs
> with KPA500 both on and off.
>
> Does this sound like a KAT 500 problem or maybe an RFI problem.
>
>
> 73 Paul
>
> w2eck
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500 Loses Match

[Bill Johnson]

I would first check all connections.  If you are running 500 w then any bad 
connection can create your issue, not the amp.

Bill
K9YEQ

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Paul Ecker 
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2024 3:30:16 PM
To: Ken Winterling 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500 Loses Match

Ken
With the KAT connected to a dummy load on the 30M port, I don't see the
problem re-occur. The SWR measured outside prior to entering the box with a
polyphaser is low. So some type of problem is between the KAT and the
connection box outside??
73 & tnx for help
Paul w2eck


On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 5:13 PM Ken Winterling  wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Connect a dummy load in place of the antenna and repeat your testing.
> This will eliminate the antenna as a possible source of RFI.
>
> Report the results of your tests,
>
> GL!
>
> *Ken*
> *WA2LBI*
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 4:47 PM Paul Ecker  wrote:
>
>> I am experiencing a new problem for me, with my KAT 500. So far I've
>> noticed this issue on 30M. I am using a dipole cut only for 30M with an
>> SWR
>> of 1.2 to 1.3 max SWR across the band. I “trained the tuner” at 20khz
>> segments on 30M.
>>
>> Setup is K4D, KAT 500 & KPA 500. Win 10 pc.
>>
>> Running CW, I can start transmitting and all is fine- my LP100A is showing
>> 1.2 SWR and am getting max power out of the radio. Then all of sudden the
>> SWR jumps to >9.0. The KAT starts chattering and finds a new match. But if
>> I start transmitting again – pwr out is only about 10 W at that new match,
>> and eventually the tuner becomes untuned again. Sometimes, it will then
>> hold the tune but still only getting abt 9-10w power out. The issue occurs
>> with KPA500 both on and off.
>>
>> Does this sound like a KAT 500 problem or maybe an RFI problem.
>>
>>
>> 73 Paul
>>
>> w2eck
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise from KAT500?

[Bill Johnson]

It gets worse with all the new gadgets and LED lighting.  I just installed new 
plant lights, LEDs, and the racket from the wall warts is terrible.  I shut 
them off when operating, or not interested in lighting up the plants.  Terrible 
view of the noise on K4 graphic display.  

Bill
K9YEQ

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2023 8:25 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noise from KAT500?

On 12/2/2023 5:48 PM, W2HX wrote:
> I then replaced the wall-wart power supply with a 12V battery. And 
> this is what I saw for BOTH bypass and inline. Clearly the problem.
> 
> https://w2hx.com/x/Elecraft/KAT500/Noise-Issue/KAT500-battery.png
> 
> using a battery, the noise is about -80 dBm. Using the wall-wart, in 
> some cases the noise is as high as -60 dBm
> 
> 
> 
> My task now is to either leave it on battery or preferably, find a low noise 
> PS.

99.9% of stuff that plugs into the wall has a Switch-mode power supply, most of 
which are varying degrees of noisy. They were mandated to save energy about 20 
years ago, but thanks to small government, the FCC has no money to enforce 
their Rules that they be quiet. So they aren't.

A typical home has several dozen of them, either in the form of wall warts and 
line lumps or built into equipment and appliances. Rather than buying bigger 
and better anything for our station, our time and money is far better spent 
identifying and replacing as many as possible of these nasty noise sources.

There's a tutorial on my website, k9yc.com/publish.htm  about how to find and 
replace them. All of the 12V gear in my shack runs on two big batteries that 
are float charged by re-purposed Thinkpad power supplies using Genasun charge 
regulators. A 100Ah LiFePO4 runs the rigs, a 100Ah Sealed Lead Acid runs the 
rest of the stuff.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Erratic receive

[Bill Johnson]

You're most welcome!

Bill
K9YEQ

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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2023 1:34:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Erratic receive

Hi Bill - I'm pretty sure my radio is late enough so that it has the
upgraded pins that were introduced to deal with that problem, but thanks
for responding.

73, Pete N4ZR

On 11/29/2023 3:28 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Pete,  have  the front panel pins corroded?  There is an upgrade
> available.
>
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> 
> *From:* elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>  on behalf of Pete Smith N4ZR
> 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 29, 2023 1:11:14 PM
> *To:* Elecraft List 
> *Subject:* [Elecraft] K3 - Erratic receive
> My 2400-serial number K3 has begun to have a sporadic receive problem,
> which has gotten much worse recently.  It's really weird.
>
> What happens is this - the receiver sporadically loses most of its audio
> output level, until I move the AF pot a couple of degrees either way, at
> which point it immediately restores the audio.  Often, but not always,
> this occurs right after a transmission (on CW), so I was initially
> suspecting a failing relay, but the way it responds to a minute change
> in the AF level setting makes me think something subtler. Any ideas?
>
> --
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Erratic receive

[Bill Johnson]

Pete,  have  the front panel pins corroded?  There is an upgrade available.

Bill
K9YEQ

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2023 1:11:14 PM
To: Elecraft List 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Erratic receive

My 2400-serial number K3 has begun to have a sporadic receive problem,
which has gotten much worse recently.  It's really weird.

What happens is this - the receiver sporadically loses most of its audio
output level, until I move the AF pot a couple of degrees either way, at
which point it immediately restores the audio.  Often, but not always,
this occurs right after a transmission (on CW), so I was initially
suspecting a failing relay, but the way it responds to a minute change
in the AF level setting makes me think something subtler.  Any ideas?

--
73, Pete N4ZR
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 on 160

[Bill Johnson]

Pete, I ran 1.5kw on 160 with an EFHW and did not have any issues.  I ran 
feedline underground and had great results.  I would suspect some rf feedback. 
Which can cause anomalies.


Bill
K9YEQ

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
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Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 8:54:10 PM
To: Pete Smith N4ZR 
Cc: Elecraft List 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 on 160

The fault table should show what threshold is being exceeded. Recent 160 meter 
soft fault detail would be of interest.

73 de Dick, K6KR

> On Nov 17, 2023, at 19:51, Pete Smith N4ZR  wrote:
>
> I have just tried my K-3/KPA-1500 combo on 160.  I find that I can only 
> increase the drive to 26 watts, to deliver about 880 watts input before the 
> OVR light comes on.  Is this to be expected?  Don't see anything in the 
> manual about it.
>
> --
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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[Elecraft] KPA1500 for sale

[Bill Johnson]

I am sad to part with this amp but am moving and am cleaning out my shack.  It 
is clean.  Email me off list and will provide photos and additional 
information.   Make a reasonable offer to include shipping.  I prefer Zelle, we 
don't have to pay fees.  If you wish to use PayPal then please include their 
fee in your offer.

Bill
K9YEQ

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[Elecraft] FW: K3S dual recieve, 144 module, DVR, 100 watt factory built

[Bill Johnson]

Have a K4D so this radio was a backup.  Am moving so selling.

Serial #: 11400. In excellent cdx. 100-watt unit with tuner. This has the 
second Receiver, 2MTR module, in fact it has all add-ons except clock. Filters 
: Main receiver: (all are 8 POLE) 13KHZ, 6 KHZ, 2.8 KHZ, 1.8Khz, 400 Hz. Sub 
Receiver: 2.8 KHZ, 1.8 KHZ. DVR recorder, 144 MHZ transverter, Diversity. 
Asking $4K plus shipping and fees. Prefer Zelle payment. Will do PayPal, etc. 
Also, will include Heil microphone, without stand.  Please reply off list.

Bill
K9YEQ



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Re: [Elecraft] Issue with KPA-1500

[Bill Johnson]

Perhaps corrupted firmware.  Reload?

Bill
K9YEQ

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of j...@kk9a.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2023 7:02:32 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Issue with KPA-1500

Does "FAULT mode immediately after going into Op mode" mean you that
switched from STBY to OPER and it FAULTS before you even transmitted?  If
that is the case, try disconnecting everything.

John KK9A

Edward NI6S wrote:

Having this issue with my KPA-1500. Goes into FAULT mode immediately after
going into Op mode. I have thoroughly seated all the cables. This unit is
brand new.  See attached photo.  Thoughts?

Thx/Ed NI6S



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Re: [Elecraft] Issue with KPA-1500

[Bill Johnson]

There's lot's of troubleshooting to consider.  First:  dummy load. Second: 
antenna analysis

Bill
K9YEQ

Bill
K9YEQ

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
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Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2023 8:49:53 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Issue with KPA-1500

Brand new meaning it has never operated properly?

73, Pete N4ZR

On 4/22/2023 9:56 AM, Edward via Elecraft wrote:
> Having this issue with my KPA-1500. Goes into FAULT mode immediately after 
> going into Op mode. I have thoroughly seated all the cables. This unit is 
> brand new.  See attached photo.  Thoughts?
>
> Thx/Ed NI6S
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] PC Connection isuue of K4D

[Bill Johnson]

Let me know if you'd like further suggestions.  I do part time IT, and might 
have more suggestions


Get Outlook for Android

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Vincent Shu 
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 7:48:04 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PC Connection isuue of K4D

Hi Bill,

Thanks for your ideas. I tried it before and It is showing as a USB HUB
now. I doubt if my setting of USB-PC1 and USB-PC2 were wrong. I will check
them later.

73,
Vincent
BH5HTF
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Re: [Elecraft] PC Connection isuue of K4D

[Bill Johnson]

Vincent.  In the Device management panel, right click on the unknow device and 
delete it.Then in the same device management panel, Click on Actions, then 
select scan for new devices.  This last step is of course with the K4D on.  IF 
that doesn't work, restart the computer and go trough the steps again.  Beyond 
that it would appear you may need someone with more skill.  Also, try different 
USB cable, Or test the cable you are using to be sure it is ok.  Test: use the 
cable for some other equipment to attach to the computer.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Behalf Of Vincent Shu
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 5:08 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] PC Connection isuue of K4D

Hi all,

My PC could recognize K4D as two virtual COM ports before but not since few 
days ago. The PC just shows an unknown device in the Devices Management.

I have opened the top panel to see the cable connections in the rig and they 
are well seated. Did anybody face the same problem? Could you give me any 
suggestions?

Thanks so much to all,
Vincent
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Re: [Elecraft] AMP-HR Display

[Bill Johnson]

Did you go into the battery menu?

Bill
K9YEQ

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Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 5:46 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] AMP-HR Display

I finally got my KX2, which is my first-ever Elecraft! Which means I'm both 
excited and inept! (How's that for a combination?) My first stumbling block is 
this: I can't get the display to show amp-hours since the last reset. All it 
shows is .**. If I hit reset, it flashes 0.0 for a moment, and then goes 
back to *.**. All of the other display items work fine, and it cycles 
through them as expected. I'm sure there's a setting somewhere, but I can't 
seem to find it.

 

Sorry if this is obvious (or if the answer is RTFM), but thanks for any help. 
After I get menu at a new system of menu logic, maybe I can return the favor 
someday.

73 Skip K4EAK

 

 

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - 

E. A. Skip Kazmarek

Atlanta, GA

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Heil PR-781 and K4

[Bill Johnson]

Paul, I have one and excellent reports vs Gold line.
Bill
K9YEQ

Have a wonderful day!
Bill

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Paul Van Dyke 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 10:34:42 AM
To: Robert Sands 
Cc: Elecraft Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Heil PR-781 and K4

Hmmm

I have the 1st out of the shop K4D, and it is matched with the PR-781.
At this time I am in Louisiana and back at Christmas ... K4D is at home QTH
in Indiana,
The Elecraft says I sound great ... You do have to dial it in,

Paul Van Dyke - KB9AVO
K4D 076 and a whole lot of Elecraft radios


On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 10:17 AM Robert Sands  wrote:

> My 781 sounded great with K3 but terrible with K4.
> Bob
> K7VO
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 6:11 AM Ron at Signs by Ron 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> > I'm looking for feedback from anyone using a Heil PR-781 microphone with
> a
> > K4.  It's not on Heil website's "Elecraft compatible" list, however,
> HRO's
> > catalog does list Elecraft in the list of "elite" class radios for which
> > the PR-781 is designed.  I also saw a Youtube video of a K4 operator
> using
> > a PR-781 and seemingly having a great experience.
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Ron, W1TK
> > P.S. I'm currently using a Yaesu MD-1 which seems to work great.  As I
> > re-design my shack though, I'm going to have a second mic and boom for
> the
> > K4. The MD-1 will remain connected to my Yaesu radios.
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Re: [Elecraft] RFE KPA1500 Fan Protocol

[Bill Johnson]

OK

Bill
K9YEQ

From: eric norris 
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 12:39 PM
To: k9...@live.com; Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] RFE KPA1500 Fan Protocol

Yes, FANticipator works great, but my point is if Elecraft would allow us to 
use the 6m fan profile on HF, we wouldn't have to turn on our intrusive 
computers at all to communicate in the sublime world of QRO CW.
73, Eric WD6DBM



On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 10:23 AM, Bill Johnson
mailto:k9...@live.com>> wrote:
I have used FANticipator for quite a while and I don't find fan noise and 
issue.  Actually, my supply is too quiet, I oftentimes will forget to turn the 
amp off.  Ha!  Don't ask me my settings I sat and forget several years ago.

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> 
mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>> On 
Behalf Of eric norris via Elecraft
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 7:49 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFE KPA1500 Fan Protocol

My apologies to Larry for my error.  He is of course correct about 
FANticipator's connections, he wrote the software and does a great job 
supporting it.  For free.
FANticipator keeps more than 100 KPA1500s cooler and quieter, if the numbers on 
Larry's dist list are mostly FANticipator users like me.
Interestingly, people have contacted me with the drastic measures they have 
taken to quiet their KPA1500s, but none have gone on record supporting my 
swtchable fan profile suggestion. Therefore, given Elecraft''s huge workload 
these days, it will most likely never make "The List."

73, Eric WD6DBM...Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 09:40:18 +
From: "Larry (K8UT)" mailto:k...@charter.net>>
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>" 
mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFE KPA1500 FAN PROFILE
Message-ID: 
mailto:emaa0f717b-4a53-48ab-b9b0-b498bfdda317@ham2-pc>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

>external solution FANticipator ... but this requires a computer with
wifi
FANticipator does not require WiFi, merely a computer on the LAN - ethernet or 
WiFi.  The only additional connection is ethernet to the KPA1500.

https://hamprojects.info/fanticipator-kpa1500-console-and-fan-controller/

-larry (K8UT)

-- Original Message --
From: "eric norris via Elecraft" 
mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>" 
mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>
Sent: 8/28/2022 7:20:08 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] RFE KPA1500 FAN PROFILE

>May I suggest adding a command that allows users to select the more aggressive 
>6m fan profile on the KPA1500 for HF use?  Call it, for example, FP6; to 
>revert back to the normal HF profile, say FPD.  These could then be loaded 
>into FP1 and FP2--We could select the best profile for the current op.  6m ops 
>are unaffected.
>Digital users would find a cooler running amp for RTTY and FT8, for example, 
>as well as slow-speed CW ops and K4 users pushing the fabulous CESSB feature, 
>which does create a hotter running KPA.
>My experiments show that just running the fans at FAN1 or FAN2 do not
>create sufficient airflow as the amp heats up.  Running at FAN3 keeps things 
>cool, but can create large swings in neatsink temps during rx periods.. It 
>also irritates the XYL, and makes copy more difficult, even with Radiosport, 
>Heil, or Bose QC-35 noise-cancelling heatsets Likewise, experimenting with FAN 
>DWELL did not solve the issue.
>There is an external solution, FANticipator, but this requires a computer with 
>wifi, and a LAN connection to the KPA1500--more stuff that needs to work and 
>be turned on.  FANticipator does very effectively lower PA temps AND fan 
>noise.  I think the FP6 command will also help with noise and temps.
>The advantage of implementing  my suggestion is that it does not affect 
>KPA1500 owners who are happy with the current HF fan profile, but can help 
>those of us with low noise tolerance, tinnitus, or who just want a cooler 
>KPA1500, and does it without an external Pc.
>Finally, it could be a marketing tool, since ICOM appears to be touting the 
>PW2 as a quiet. amp.
>I would be happy to beta test this, if offered, and come back with some
>real numbers Thanks for your consideration.
>
>73, Eric WD6DBM

>

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Re: [Elecraft] RFE KPA1500 Fan Protocol

[Bill Johnson]

I have used FANticipator for quite a while and I don't find fan noise and 
issue.  Actually, my supply is too quiet, I oftentimes will forget to turn the 
amp off.  Ha!  Don't ask me my settings I sat and forget several years ago. 

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of eric norris via Elecraft
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 7:49 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFE KPA1500 Fan Protocol

My apologies to Larry for my error.  He is of course correct about 
FANticipator's connections, he wrote the software and does a great job 
supporting it.  For free.
FANticipator keeps more than 100 KPA1500s cooler and quieter, if the numbers on 
Larry's dist list are mostly FANticipator users like me.
Interestingly, people have contacted me with the drastic measures they have 
taken to quiet their KPA1500s, but none have gone on record supporting my 
swtchable fan profile suggestion. Therefore, given Elecraft''s huge workload 
these days, it will most likely never make "The List."

73, Eric WD6DBM...Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 09:40:18 +
From: "Larry (K8UT)" 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RFE KPA1500 FAN PROFILE
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

>external solution FANticipator ... but this requires a computer with
wifi
FANticipator does not require WiFi, merely a computer on the LAN - ethernet or 
WiFi.  The only additional connection is ethernet to the KPA1500.

https://hamprojects.info/fanticipator-kpa1500-console-and-fan-controller/

-larry (K8UT)

-- Original Message --
From: "eric norris via Elecraft" 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Sent: 8/28/2022 7:20:08 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] RFE KPA1500 FAN PROFILE

>May I suggest adding a command that allows users to select the more aggressive 
>6m fan profile on the KPA1500 for HF use?  Call it, for example, FP6; to 
>revert back to the normal HF profile, say FPD.  These could then be loaded 
>into FP1 and FP2--We could select the best profile for the current op.  6m ops 
>are unaffected.
>Digital users would find a cooler running amp for RTTY and FT8, for example, 
>as well as slow-speed CW ops and K4 users pushing the fabulous CESSB feature, 
>which does create a hotter running KPA.
>My experiments show that just running the fans at FAN1 or FAN2 do not 
>create sufficient airflow as the amp heats up.  Running at FAN3 keeps things 
>cool, but can create large swings in neatsink temps during rx periods.. It 
>also irritates the XYL, and makes copy more difficult, even with Radiosport, 
>Heil, or Bose QC-35 noise-cancelling heatsets Likewise, experimenting with FAN 
>DWELL did not solve the issue.
>There is an external solution, FANticipator, but this requires a computer with 
>wifi, and a LAN connection to the KPA1500--more stuff that needs to work and 
>be turned on.  FANticipator does very effectively lower PA temps AND fan 
>noise.  I think the FP6 command will also help with noise and temps.
>The advantage of implementing  my suggestion is that it does not affect 
>KPA1500 owners who are happy with the current HF fan profile, but can help 
>those of us with low noise tolerance, tinnitus, or who just want a cooler 
>KPA1500, and does it without an external Pc.
>Finally, it could be a marketing tool, since ICOM appears to be touting the 
>PW2 as a quiet. amp.
>I would be happy to beta test this, if offered, and come back with some 
>real numbers Thanks for your consideration.
>
>73, Eric WD6DBM
>
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Using the K3s Tune button causes a growing SWR on my KPA500

[Bill Johnson]

From what has been stated, this not a true end fed Half wave using a 9-1 balun. 
 That is the issue.  The balun needs to be a 49-1 ratio to properly feed an 
EFHW antenna.  The method you are using requires a different counterpoise than 
an EFHW.  EFHW are efficient at one frequency and direct harmonics.  So, the 
balun is likely heating up.  The 53' antenna is a random wire and needs to have 
a proper counterpoise.  Random end feds are  different birds.

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 10:42 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using the K3s Tune button causes a growing SWR on my 
KPA500


No.  Over time the current does not "back up".

Something in your system is heating up.  My bet would be that your toroids used 
as common mode chokes are heating up due to the very high voltages that exist 
at the end of an end fed half wave antenna.  It's not likely to be a current 
problem since there isn't much current at all at the end of a half wave antenna 
... unless yours isn't actually a half wave at whatever frequency your feeding 
it.

It is also possible that something in the Palstar tuner is heating up, but it 
uses decent looking inductors wound on ceramic forms so I really doubt it.

I'm guessing that you aren't using any sort of counterpoise with your EFHW.  If 
you did, it would have the effect of making your EFHW look a bit more like just 
a severely off-center fed dipole with the result that the voltage (and possibly 
the mismatch) would be less.

In any case, don't go key down any longer than you need to if you don't want to 
fry the toroids before you get a chance to fix the problem.

73,
Dave AB7E



On 7/15/2022 7:53 PM, Peder Kittelson wrote:
> When on 80 meters, the longer I hold the tune button down the higher 
> the SWR goes to the point the KPA500 folds back with warnings.  I 
> don't usually hold down the tune button longer than about 5-6 seconds.
>
> I use a Manual Palstar BT1500A tuner which does a good job of tuning 
> my EFHW wire antenna.  So the initial tune is very good. I sometimes 
> will hold down the Tune button on the K3s for maybe 5-6 seconds with 
> the initial tune at 1-1 SWR.
>
> The KP500 first shows a 1-1 SWR.  Then 1.2-1, 1.3-1 and so on.  I stop 
> when it reaches 1.5-1.
>
> I suppose that initially the transmitting wire sends out the signal 
> and over time the current backs up.  I have torroids in place to 
> prevent RFI coming back down the antenna transmission line.
>
> I only use the system for CW.  So when I send, the problem does not 
> escalate to the point of a dangerous SWR.
>
> I wonder if this is a normal problem when holding the tuning button 
> longer?  And since I do not hold down the key for a long period of 
> time it doesn't develop.
>
> Still, I am looking at solutions. And I am concerned.
>
> Your thoughts?
>

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Re: [Elecraft] D-104 Mic Element Replacement

[Bill Johnson]

Can you not purchase a Heil mic element and wire it to suit?
Bill
K9YEQ

Have a wonderful day!
Bill

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Dr. William J. Schmidt 
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 7:40:29 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] D-104 Mic Element Replacement

No replacement available...

Well... that's not entirely True.  If you search a little, you can find
places all over the internet where you can buy "old stock" or "removed" D104
elements.  Just depends which one/ kind you want.   IN FACT just a few years
ago I bought a hand full of "authentic Astatic, old stock" the later crystal
replacements... brand-new... from one of the big electronic houses like
Mouser or Digikey (can't remember which one actually).  I think they were in
the $28 each...

Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
VP2EHZ

email:  b...@wjschmidt.com


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing

[Bill Johnson]

Bob, well put.  Every release to me like going out and buying another, better 
radio.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of K5WA
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2022 4:28 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Cc: n...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing

Dave,

 

The exact price wasn’t exactly known as of May 2019 since not all of the 
sub-component prices had been obtained by Elecraft yet.  Elecraft charged me 
$4,699.95 for a K4D with the understanding that I would pay some additional 
amount (expectation was 10%) when the price was finalized and mine was ready to 
ship.  I ended up paying an additional $350.  Shipping was free.

 

As far as being on the fence, there are still many promised features yet to 
show up in the K4 firmware that might cause you to delay a current purchase but 
I got two of the K4Ds and am having a ball with mine just as they sit.  I went 
through the 10-year improvement cycle of the K3’s firmware and know Elecraft 
will be improving the K4 in exactly the same way.  Each new firmware update is 
Christmas Day all over again with new and improved features added to the rig!  

 

Bob K5WA

 

 

Message: 7

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 22:43:24 -0500 (EST)

From: Dave Agsten mailto:n...@comcast.net> >

To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net  " 
mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >

Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing

Message-ID: <455689396.654753.1644551004...@connect.xfinity.com 
 >

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 

Does anyone recall or know what the K4D price was if you ordered back in May of 
2019?

 

For those who have received their K4 on the East Coast, what was the shipping 
cost for just a K4D?

 

I'm on the fence here as to whether or not I should invest in the K4. I'm also 
considering the ATU but I already have the KAT500. I'm not getting any younger. 
:-)

 

Tnx es 73,

Dave N8AG

 

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[Elecraft] P3 with SVGA and Power monitor for sale

[Bill Johnson]

Please make me a reasonable offer to include shipping and PayPal fees.  I 
looking for $900. Includes all cables, left in place to plug into K3.  Will 
send photos on request.  No scratches.  No smoke.  Like new.

73,
Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status

[Bill Johnson]

When we see what CA is up to, they may shut down Elecraft again, send them 
packing to home, put triple masks on, require two vaccines, 3 boosters and a 
partridge in a pear tree.  

Sorry, Couldn't help myself.  

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 6:28 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery status


Apparently not.  I recently asked on this list if new K4 users could tell us 
how well the K4 worked for remote operations.  The only replies I got said that 
Elecraft had not yet written a release version of the software for remote 
operation of the K4, and as best they could tell from the responses they had 
gotten from Elecraft there was no timetable for doing so.  Nobody from Elecraft 
bothered to answer my query, so they are probably correct.

73,
Dave   AB7E





On 8/16/2021 2:22 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>
> 1.  I run W7RN remotely with the RemoteRig RRC-1258 setup and my K3. 
> If I replace my K3 with a K4, and Tom does _not_ do likewise at RN, 
> will my remote setup still work?
>

> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County

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Re: [Elecraft] HOA Crap

[Bill Johnson]

Beautiful history. Brought back memories of my earlier days and some of the 
equipment would cause me drool  The R390,  Had one at signal corp site in 
Thailand.  Loved to play with it.  I like the table top rack system.
Bill
K9YEQ
5,120.00
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HOA Crap

https://www.qrz.com/lookup/n2wl

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HOA Crap



Can you provide a link to it?



> On June 29, 2021 12:27 PM Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
>  
> On 6/29/2021 7:50 AM, Bob McGraw wrote:
> > I totally agree.
> 
> Did you do as N7WS suggested and look at this guy's website> I did.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4D #150

[Bill Johnson]

The background noise among other issues is why I switched to cardioid mic from 
Heil.  Directional, excellent sound reproduction.  

Bill
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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Tim Tucker
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:36 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4D #150

I use a Heil GM5 mic, with the gain and compression adjusted so my lips have to 
be almost touching the windscreen to drive the rig.  When a fan blower from a 
big amp is going right underneath the rig, there is a limit to gain and 
compression adjustments that can be made to get rid of that much background 
noise.  Plus a room with hard floors makes the problem worse (although I do 
have throw rug down).  This is the type of environment where downward expansion 
shines.

Phase Inversion:  Perhaps I wasn't clear:  For some reason with my setup, this 
Heil GM5 mic produces negative deflection on a power meter when using AM.  
Example:  you set the AM carrier at 25 watts, expecting modulation to
100 watts, but instead you observe 25 watts deflecting to 15 watts.  I don't 
know why that occurs, but I do know that flipping the Invert phase switch 
solves the problem.

Tim

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 11:13 AM Jim Brown 
wrote:

> On 6/24/2021 6:48 AM, Tim Tucker wrote:
> > Downward Expander is the most valuable,
>
> That can reduce room noise you transmit in a noisy shack, especially 
> if you've set compression too high, or work too far from your mic. 
> Using a boom mic headset like the Yamaha CM500, that puts the mic a 
> couple of inches from the mouth does a lot to minimize the need for that.
>
> phase inversion
>
> Correctly called "polarity," this does NOTHING to improve (on the 
> iPlus) on
> > AM (when needed), and I've found that the compressor just works 
> > better
> (at
> > least on the K3).
>
> I could believe that.
>
>   There are other minor interesting features, but the
> > reader can do their own feature comparison
>
> With the possible exception of better compression, everything else is 
> a way to extract money from those who don't understand audio.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Gurus

[Bill Johnson]

One more off topic:  I was told my call, which I totally disliked back in 
1960... buddies pointed out, how great it was on cw.  How short sighted I was.

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Julia Tuttle
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:41 PM
To: Buddy Brannan 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Gurus

Oh, I know, it was a deliberate choice -- my Elmer (from, jeez, 20 years
ago) K1AJ said he picked his for the sound, so I did too.

I do occasionally get out on CW with it though!

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 00:35 Buddy Brannan  wrote:

> Man, what a great cw call, totally wasted on FT8 :-)
>
>
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Email: bu...@brannan.name
> Mobile: (814) 431-0962
>
>
>
> > On Jun 10, 2021, at 12:00 AM, Julia Tuttle 
> wrote:
> >
> > It's KV1V, but probably not -- I've mostly been working FT8 from my
> (noisy,
> > urban, antenna-limited) home QTH, and I don't think you were one of 
> > the couple of folks I managed to reach on CW from my girlfriend's 
> > (quiet, rural, big enough to have a full-size 40m dipole) QTH.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 11:42 PM Gary K9GS  wrote:
> >
> >> I agree Julie,Just curious, what is your call?  I wonder if we've 
> >> worked?73,Gary K9GS
> >>  Original message From: Bill Johnson 
> >> 
> >> Date: 6/9/21  11:32 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Al Lorona <
> alor...@sbcglobal.net>,
> >> Julia Tuttle  Cc: Elecraft Reflector < 
> >> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Gurus Here, here, 
> >> Julie!BillK9YEQHave a great
> day!BillFrom:
> >> elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  
> >> on behalf of Julia Tuttle Sent: Tuesday, 
> >> June 8,
> 2021
> >> 9:36:00 PMTo: Al Lorona Cc: Elecraft 
> >> Reflector <
> >> elecraft@mailman.qth.net>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] GurusI'm gonna 
> >> second "above all, have fun"!If it brings you joy to have the 
> >> highest
> performing
> >> rig you can, cool, andI hope it serves you well.But if a different
> aspect
> >> of a radio, or even one you can't name, bringsyou joy, that's also 
> >> cool, and I'm happy it makes you happy!My KX3 isn't at the top of 
> >> the Sherwood list, it doesn't have a panadapter(...yet), and 
> >> connecting it up for digital modes is a bit of a rat's 
> >> nest..but I'll be darned if it
> isn't
> >> just fun as shit to use. The UI is wellthought out, the VFO knob is 
> >> a
> work
> >> of art, (surprisingly) the compact sizemakes it more
> approachable/friendly
> >> for it, and the community here aroundit (as heated as it can get) 
> >> is tighter-knit.None of those show up in a spec sheet or lab 
> >> testing Get
> what
> >> makes *you*happy, and share your experience so the next ham can do 
> >> the same.Cheers,JulieOn Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 21:57 Al Lorona < 
> >> alor...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:> When this subject appeared last week 
> >> I
> had
> >> composed a reply but then slept> on it and canceled it the next
> morning, as
> >> I probably do 80% of the time.>> In this my second attempt, let me 
> >> say
> that
> >> I've always been amazed at the> power wielded by Rob Sherwood.
> Thousands of
> >> hams hang on his latest tests.> If he deems a new radio exceptional 
> >> in
> some
> >> way, that can mean many> millions of dollars for a manufacturer.>> 
> >> And
> yet,
> >> if there were no such thing as gurus on the web and at places> like
> Dayton
> >> expounding about how Brand A is better than Brand B, how would> you
> answer
> >> the questions, "Do I like this transceiver?," and, "Is it any> 
> >> good?">> You'd probably get on the air and use it, and decide that 
> >> way.>> But we constantly have gurus telling us that Brand A is the 
> >> 'best' which> horrifies us if up until now we liked Brand B better. 
> >> Against our
> personal>
> >> experience we flip-flop and say, "Gee, I used to like Brand B, but
> Brand A>
> >> must be better because the gurus say so.">> Yet, there will always 
> >> be
> guys
> >> who'll be tortured owning a transceiver> that has the 2nd highest
> dynamic
> >> range, or the 3rd best distortion. Never> mind if they can't 
> >> actually
> hear
> >> the differences.>> It's how a rig *sounds 

Re: [Elecraft] Gurus

[Bill Johnson]

The only flaw, I see is if someone doesn't really understand the real life 
application or meaning of the numbers.   To me, quality, usability,  
simplicity,  update ability,  cost-effective use are more important.   Not the 
numbers.   Rob owns his preferences,  is not influenced by manufacturers and to 
me does a fantastic job of reviewing (I use different sort order for my picks 
at times) and because of Wayne, Eric and their phenomenal team... yes, you can 
say I drink Elecraft.
Bill
K9YEQ
Have a great day!
Bill


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Al Lorona 
Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 8:57:08 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] Gurus

When this subject appeared last week I had composed a reply but then slept on 
it and canceled it the next morning, as I probably do 80% of the time.

In this my second attempt, let me say that I've always been amazed at the power 
wielded by Rob Sherwood. Thousands of hams hang on his latest tests. If he 
deems a new radio exceptional in some way, that can mean many millions of 
dollars for a manufacturer.

And yet, if there were no such thing as gurus on the web and at places like 
Dayton expounding about how Brand A is better than Brand B, how would you 
answer the questions, "Do I like this transceiver?," and, "Is it any good?"

You'd probably get on the air and use it, and decide that way.

But we constantly have gurus telling us that Brand A is the 'best' which 
horrifies us if up until now we liked Brand B better. Against our personal 
experience we flip-flop and say, "Gee, I used to like Brand B, but Brand A must 
be better because the gurus say so."

Yet, there will always be guys who'll be tortured owning a transceiver that has 
the 2nd highest dynamic range, or the 3rd best distortion. Never mind if they 
can't actually hear the differences.

It's how a rig *sounds and feels* during actual operating that's most 
important. Not the numbers. For instance, Wes made a comment about his tuning 
knob, and although some of you might have laughed at that... it's darned 
important! That's the kind of thing I'm talking about.

Here's my opinion on ranking receivers by 2 kHz 3rd order dynamic range: almost 
any modern receiver has enough dynamic range to make this ranking more and more 
meaningless as time goes on. Sherwood himself has said that 90 dB or above is 
plenty enough. To understand why, see this post from 2016 by one of the old 
guys on this reflector: 
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-The-Way-We-Rank-Receivers-long-td7623639.html

Lastly, if you've been enjoying your rig for years and then hear someone else 
complain about a flaw you weren't even aware of, don't panic. There are a 
million reasons why his concerns might not involve you in the least.

Above all, have fun.

Al W6LX/4
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Re: [Elecraft] Gurus

[Bill Johnson]

I would add, the radio operator with a license is supposed to know the 
requirements and operate accordingly.  This includes staying with the passband 
of the FCC regulations.  Just because a radio is FCC accepted, doesn't mean the 
operator doesn’t have responsibility to stay within the regulations.  Thus if I 
note you are splattering because of too much mic gain, or whatever, doesn't 
excuse the person from adjusting the signal or correcting the situation, 
regardless of the manufacturer.  It is the HAM's station creating the issue 
that is legally needing to correct it.  Don't be offended, fix it.  I have had 
issues with my own Elecraft radio with a circuit failure... what did I do? I 
fixed it.  

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 7:51 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Gurus

I must respectfully disagree sir...

The ordinary ham should be able to tell when his/her rig is out of spec. 
  The ordinary ham should be able to operate his/her rig correctly. 
That is just no longer the case.  There are a lot of folks out there that don't 
even know how a repeater works at the most basic of levels. 
They are operating HF rigs with no understanding of how they work, and no 
understanding of what limits they need to maintain.

They create a mess on the air, and should be told about it.  Nicely, but told 
non the less.  It is far better to have a fellow ham tell you you have an 
issue, than have the FCC tell you...

Speaking of the FCC, I don't remember the FCC turning over responsibility for 
signal quality to the manufactures of radios, absolving the operator of all 
responsibility...  It is the operators job to make sure he/she is operating 
their radio correctly, and within tolerance, period, end of discussion, the 
operator is responsible.

If he/she can not tell there is a problem, than that ham should not be allowed 
to transmit...

There are dirty transmitters all over, and they meet FCC specs...  How can that 
be you might ask yourself?

In a lot of cases, the operator is not knowledgeable in how to drive the 
transmitter properly, or that low voltages feeding the transmitter can cause 
issues, or that triggering ALC in FT8 causes issues, there are any number of 
settings the Amateur can screw up, and the rig meets FCC specs...

So no, it is not "out of line" to let someone know their transmitter is 
spraying crap.

On 6/9/21 5:02 PM, Richards wrote:
> Anyone condemning other hams for using "dirty transmitters"  is simply 
> out of line.
> 
> The ordinary ham is NOT an Electrical Engineer and he buys his rig in 
> good faith, believing it passed FCC and other engineering standards. 
> He uses it in good faith, assuming it is OK and not causing problems. 
> But then, a few self-appointed Frequency Cops condemn the poor 
> operator as a bad citizen for using a "dirty transmitter"  as if the 
> operator is somehow to blame.   I have worked a lot of contests with 
> crowded conditions in a large metropolitan area, and nobody has ever 
> whined about any of this, notwithstanding a couple of self-appointed 
> experts living in the mountains of CA and CO claim it is a horrible epidemic.
> Besides, if this was such big problem why is it such a new, current 
> topic? Supposedly, all those old rigs have been noisy all the time.   
> I suspect it is topical only because they have nothing else to talk about.
> 
> Well, even if it is a problem, there is no place for this sort of 
> personal attack in ham radio, AND IT IS SIMPLY WRONG TO BLAME THE 
> OPERATOR for how his rig works.   For most ops, ham radio is just a 
> hobby and they are entitled to expect their radios will work right.
> Blaming the operator is simply out of line.   K8JHR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Giving Up

[Bill Johnson]

I prefer those who are tired of waiting, give up so if your in front of me, I 
will move up!
Bill
K9YEQ

Have a great day!
Bill


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Barry Simpson 
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 12:59:13 AM
To: Dave Erickson 
Cc: Elecraft Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Giving Up

Well said Dave

I am a rig tragic like you and many others.

I have always got to buy and try all the newest rigs and then move them on
if I am not that smitten.

My current rigs/keepers are a K3 (2008 vintage), TS890, Omni 6+, Orion 2
(three of those !), SunSDR2DX.

Been and gone rigs include the IC7851, IC7610, TS990 (only because it got
too heavy for me so I got the TS890), MB1, Flex 6600M and a number of
others.

I have not yet succumbed to the FTDX101 or the FTDX10 but may give one or
the other a try. However, one of my main requirements is good quiet QSK so
I am not sure that the Yaesu is suitable and the bandscope strikes me as
horrible.

I too have had a no deposit K4D on order for about two years. I intend to
just let the order sit there and see if anything eventually happens and if
it does I expect I will buy it !!

Barry  VK2BJ

On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 13:28, Dave Erickson  wrote:

> On 6/8/2021 12:25 PM, KENT TRIMBLE wrote:
> > Not so, Doug.
> >
> > My K3, including accessories and filters, was $4,500 in 2007. That's
> > $5,722 in today's dollars.
> >
> > A K4 with all its advanced technology at $4,600 (your quote) is a steal
> > compared to a K3.
> >
> > The word "expensive" can be applied to the K4 (or any product) only when
> > answering the question, "compared to what?"  Otherwise it has no
> > meaning.  Nothing is expensive or inexpensive on its own.  The word has
> > relevance only when comparing the price of two or more products.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Kent  K9ZTV
> >
> >
> > On 6/7/2021 9:33 PM, Doug Person, KØDXV, wrote:
> >> ... With a tuner the [K4] price is $4600 making it one of the most
> >> expensive transceivers on the market ... When the K3 came out it was
> >> very competitively priced. I'm not sure I would describe the K4 with
> >> the same words. It is unquestionably an expensive radio.
> > .
>
> All,
>
> I followed along this thread and I think it's not useful to compare the
> K4 to the K3. The K3 to the K2 makes sense, even a KX3 to a K3 as they
> are more similar.
>
> I think the only radio on the market right now that can be compared to
> the K4 is the 7610 from ICOM. And frankly, it's not so good for the K4.
>
> A little over a year ago, I was in the market for a high end transceiver
> and basically decided between waiting for a K4 or buy a 7610. I bought
> the Icom. While I am sure the K4 is a better radio in some ways, the
> question is: is it twice as good? (Add tuner, second ADC, etc.)
>
> Looking at the specs, I am shocked the K4 is shipping with only one ADC.
> At the price point and with the 7610 on the market for $2900 all day
> long it's a serious flaw for me.
>
> The K4 also has no pre-selector that I can tell and that is useful too
> me at times, especially on the low bands.
>
> IMO the competition for the K4 is the 7610 as they are architecturally
> very similar.
>
> Maybe an Apache ANON 7000 DLE would be in there as well but the Icom
> beats that too IMO. (Since it has buttons, and a tuner, and pin-diode
> QSK etc)
>
> That said, I have since bought a K3 to go with the 7610 and will likely
> get a K4 and an ANON in the future so I am as hopeless as the rest.
>
> 73's all.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Gurus

[Bill Johnson]

Here, here, Julie!
Bill
K9YEQ

Have a great day!
Bill


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Julia Tuttle 
Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 9:36:00 PM
To: Al Lorona 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Gurus

I'm gonna second "above all, have fun"!

If it brings you joy to have the highest performing rig you can, cool, and
I hope it serves you well.

But if a different aspect of a radio, or even one you can't name, brings
you joy, that's also cool, and I'm happy it makes you happy!

My KX3 isn't at the top of the Sherwood list, it doesn't have a panadapter
(...yet), and connecting it up for digital modes is a bit of a rat's nest...

...but I'll be darned if it isn't just fun as shit to use. The UI is well
thought out, the VFO knob is a work of art, (surprisingly) the compact size
makes it more approachable/friendly for it, and the community here around
it (as heated as it can get) is tighter-knit.

None of those show up in a spec sheet or lab testing Get what makes *you*
happy, and share your experience so the next ham can do the same.

Cheers,

Julie

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 21:57 Al Lorona  wrote:

> When this subject appeared last week I had composed a reply but then slept
> on it and canceled it the next morning, as I probably do 80% of the time.
>
> In this my second attempt, let me say that I've always been amazed at the
> power wielded by Rob Sherwood. Thousands of hams hang on his latest tests.
> If he deems a new radio exceptional in some way, that can mean many
> millions of dollars for a manufacturer.
>
> And yet, if there were no such thing as gurus on the web and at places
> like Dayton expounding about how Brand A is better than Brand B, how would
> you answer the questions, "Do I like this transceiver?," and, "Is it any
> good?"
>
> You'd probably get on the air and use it, and decide that way.
>
> But we constantly have gurus telling us that Brand A is the 'best' which
> horrifies us if up until now we liked Brand B better. Against our personal
> experience we flip-flop and say, "Gee, I used to like Brand B, but Brand A
> must be better because the gurus say so."
>
> Yet, there will always be guys who'll be tortured owning a transceiver
> that has the 2nd highest dynamic range, or the 3rd best distortion. Never
> mind if they can't actually hear the differences.
>
> It's how a rig *sounds and feels* during actual operating that's most
> important. Not the numbers. For instance, Wes made a comment about his
> tuning knob, and although some of you might have laughed at that... it's
> darned important! That's the kind of thing I'm talking about.
>
> Here's my opinion on ranking receivers by 2 kHz 3rd order dynamic range:
> almost any modern receiver has enough dynamic range to make this ranking
> more and more meaningless as time goes on. Sherwood himself has said that
> 90 dB or above is plenty enough. To understand why, see this post from 2016
> by one of the old guys on this reflector:
> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-The-Way-We-Rank-Receivers-long-td7623639.html
>
>
> Lastly, if you've been enjoying your rig for years and then hear someone
> else complain about a flaw you weren't even aware of, don't panic. There
> are a million reasons why his concerns might not involve you in the least.
>
> Above all, have fun.
>
> Al W6LX/4
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Lore

[Bill Johnson]

This was conversation when I was an FT for the KTA500.  My goal was to get that 
to happen.  There are already appliances to do so.  The MFJ 998 is both an in 
shack and also a remote device as well.  I use the in shack model which I 
operate remotely.  I think that is not the profitable route for elecraft at the 
moment.  They could chew up competition, but not a good pursuit given all the 
challenges of production and parts issues.  Please, understand that I have not 
insight, nor a clue of Elecrafts inside operation.

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of w...@flashdog.us
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 8:06 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 Lore

What would really be great is if we could get this Elecraft tuner in a remote 
option for the K4, K3S, K3 (& maybe, those other brands, too). 
IMHO, It’s the missing Elecraft option.
73,
Jeff/wb0m


Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 00:46:46 -0400
From: Julia Tuttle mailto:ju...@juliatuttle.net>>

"Elecraft's ATUs are generally wider range than other manufacturers', I 
thought, and that comes at a parts cost that everyone might not want to pay. 
I'd rather have the option for a wide range one than a built-in but less 
capable one."

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 00:41 John Nicholson mailto:macymonk...@charter.net>> wrote:

> Yes and no; both the IC-7610 and FTdx101 models include an internal 
> tuner without an optional charge.
> 
> John K7FD
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 9:23 PM, Rick Tavan > > wrote:
>> 
>> ?Ed K1EP mentioned that the K4 ATU is a cost-extra option on all K4
> models.
>> This is as it should be. If you have an external tuner in the shack 
>> or at the antenna or a tuner integrated into an amplifier that's 
>> always in line (or in Standby with the tuner enabled) or if all your 
>> antennas are well matched, you wouldn't want to pay Elecraft for a 
>> tuner inside K4 that you wouldn't be using. OTOH if, like me, you 
>> sometimes take your K4 to the field or operate it at a shack where 
>> there is no external auto-tuner,
> then
>> the K4 ATU option is delightful. IMHO, Elecraft made some good 
>> decisions
> on
>> what to include as standard and what to "optionalize" in K4.
>> 
>> /Rick N6XI
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Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

[Bill Johnson]

So sorry, but this pandemic and all the supply issues fit nicely into an 
economic war, not just a firearms war.  The economic war has only just begun 
which I had guessed would happen just after the Japanese, then the S. Koreans 
now the Chinese.  This is a cultural war destined to get the US into their 
stronghold.  But the Japanese and Koreans are now in our arena?

I hope the chips and high tech will move back to US like the good old days.  
Too bad for our US companies to be too slow to react, or the government taxes 
and labor practices to remove our own manufacturing.  If we had chips here, 
Elecraft, maybe others, perhaps could get parts?

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Gary Memory
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 4:12 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users of the world

It isn't just IC's.  I placed a $250-ish order from Mouser two days ago.
Most of the items are common components, with a BO lead-time into September.  
We live in a different world, at least temporarily if not for a long haul?

Gary N7BRJ


On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 5:01 PM Ken B via Elecraft 
wrote:

>  Its affecting everything - Tried to by a bunch of 555 timing chips 
> for the local troops scouting project - none around, glad we don't 
> need them till November.
>
> On Thursday, April 29, 2021, 04:50:57 PM EDT, Wayne Burdick < 
> n...@elecraft.com> wrote:
>
>  Many off-the-shelf parts are affected as well.
>
> Wayne
>
> 
> elecraft.com
>
> > On Apr 29, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Linda M  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Hi Wayne.
> > I would think the Parts you use are Off the Shelf Semiconductors.
> > The Auto Industry are Custom Fab semiconductors.
> > Ray WA6VAB  K3
> >
> > From: Wayne Burdick
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 11:40 AM
> > To: Mark Goldberg
> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] This does not bode well for the chip users 
> > of
> the world
> >
> > Indeed, it's a ubiquitous curse. Fortunately we stocked up far in
> advance on most parts and assemblies.
> >
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 29, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Mark Goldberg 
> > > 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > For smaller customers that are not buying millions of parts at a 
> > > time,
> it
> > > is even worse, as they have no leverage. That includes the company 
> > > I am working for and I would assume companies like Elecraft. Even 
> > > for simple orders from distributors of in stock parts they are 
> > > taking a week to
> ship
> > > rather than the usual next day shipment. It is really disruptive.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:20 AM Dave Cole  wrote:
> > >
> > >> An interesting story from OPB dealing with the global shortage of
> chips...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/29/it-s-not-just-cars-ipads-and-ma
> cs-suffer-from-semiconductor-crunch/
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> 73, and thanks,
> > >> Dave (NK7Z)
> > >> https://www.nk7z.net
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Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

[Bill Johnson]

Given what I have read on the reflector, try calling.  There are so may 
impatient dolts, I can understand there situation. All the stupid "when will I 
get mine" I am sure have bogged down their inbox.  Not to say phone messages 
aren't as well.  But who knows

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Dave Cole
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:43 PMTo: Brian Hunt 

Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Inventorying a K3/P3

Hi Brian,

Thank you for the suggestions, and the tidbits of the additional steps for add 
on items like new synths, etc.  I have saved your email.

I have sent Elecraft three seperate email requests across three weeks, and 
gotten precisely zero replies from supp...@elecraft.com address...

Very dissapointing, not even an acknoledgment they got the mail...  It is like 
firing email into a black hole...

I just resent the 4th request, this time to sales, support, and webmaster in 
hopes I can get in touch with someone at the Elecraft!

I understand things are busy, and I understadn things are diffucult to to 
COVID, etc., but three weeks, and three requests later I am getting very 
frustrated.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net


On 3/29/21 5:12 PM, Brian Hunt wrote:
> Dave,
> There have also been numerous component adds/mods over the years. Three that 
> I did a couple years ago are 1. Increase the 12vdc accessory power from 500 
> ma to 1 A. Evidence is a 1A sticker on the rear of the K3. 2. Add a capacitor 
> to the KPA3 to eliminate fan noise pickup evident after the new synthesizers 
> are installed. 3. Addition of a capacitor to the KBPF3 general coverage BPFs 
> to extend coverage down to the 630 meter band. I’m sure there are others. See 
> the mod instructions available on the Elecraft site if you go sleuthing 
> inside the box. These are a bit inconsequential but add value to the K3.
> 
> Have you thought about asking Elecraft for the work orders for the K3’s S/N?
> 
> Good luck and thank you for helping out the family. Sorry you lost a friend.
> 
> 73,
> Brian, K0DTJ
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] PSK31 with a KX2

[Bill Johnson]

Bob, when you get it working, then do an immediate backup in case you enter the 
wrong information after that.  You can at least get back to where you were.  
When I am told I have a great signal on SSB, I do an immediate backup to 
preserve my settings.

Bill
K9YEQ

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Behalf Of Bob Liesen
Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 7:11 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] PSK31 with a KX2

All,
  Pulling my hair out here.  I have been trying to get my KX2 to work on PSK31. 
 After many attempts I got it working perfectly with DigiPan, but
I'm not sure how.   Then something happened that I have found is a problem
for me with this radio.  I must have turned a knob, hit a key or some such 
thing as it stopped decoding.  I find the knobs and buttons are too close to 
one another for these old eyes and fingers.
  I am using DATA A mode, I have the BW at 4kHz and center freq of 1.5  AGC is 
off, RF gain is 0dB.  NB and NR is off.  I suspected I might have screwed up 
the USB/LSB setting somehow, but HamScope has a "reverse"
function which does not help.
 Is there anyone who could walk me through the settings that might be screwing 
this up?
Tnx es 73
Bob  WB0POQ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Receive Audio

[Bill Johnson]

Dana, glad to help.  I was a field tester and remember the internals to some 
degree.   I loved that little radio which I lived through hardware and software 
updates.  I now use a KX2.
H
Bill
K9YEQ

have a great day!
Bill


From: Dana Roode K6NR 
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:59:03 PM
To: Bill Johnson 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Receive Audio

Thanks Bill; the KX1 has the antenna tuner and 30m.  The 30m option is soldered 
in, but I did reseat the tuner just now and that may have well fixed it.  I 
appreciate the suggestion!

  Dana

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 9:26 AM Bill Johnson 
mailto:k9...@live.com>> wrote:
Dana,  you might want to re-seat the tuner and any other internal connectors.  
You didn't indicated which options are installed.
Have a great day!
Bill


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> 
mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>> on 
behalf of Dana Roode K6NR mailto:dana.ro...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 11:13:46 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 Receive Audio

I have a KX1 that I hadn't used in awhile but I got it out recently.  Works
fine - made a couple of contacts with it - but the audio has some
"artifacts" at times.  Usually they are very quiet, and they  go away when
I hold the radio in my hand.  Some sort of odd grounding issue of some
sort?  I hear the artifacts even without an antenna.  It comes across as
clicking, almost always very quiet - you can hear it best if you turn down
the RF gain.

At any rate, the radio is quite usable but I thought I'd see if anyone else
has this issue.

  Dana
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Receive Audio

[Bill Johnson]

Dana,  you might want to re-seat the tuner and any other internal connectors.  
You didn't indicated which options are installed.

Have a great day!
Bill


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Dana Roode K6NR 
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 11:13:46 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 Receive Audio

I have a KX1 that I hadn't used in awhile but I got it out recently.  Works
fine - made a couple of contacts with it - but the audio has some
"artifacts" at times.  Usually they are very quiet, and they  go away when
I hold the radio in my hand.  Some sort of odd grounding issue of some
sort?  I hear the artifacts even without an antenna.  It comes across as
clicking, almost always very quiet - you can hear it best if you turn down
the RF gain.

At any rate, the radio is quite usable but I thought I'd see if anyone else
has this issue.

  Dana
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 power reading ?

[Bill Johnson]

I accept differences do to cable lengths and different points of monitoring.  
No two will ever be the same when sampling rf at different points.  Unless all 
connections and cables are perfectly perfect "-)

Bill
K9YEQ

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Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 12:23 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 power reading ?

The KPA1500 is new to me and very happy with my purchase . I'm using the 
LP-100A watt meter and comparing it with the KPA-1500 they both read close 
enough 10 to 160 . On 6m I'm seeing a bigger spread  with the LP-100A reading 
1500w the KPA-1500 is showing 1375w . If you look at this in DB , it's nothing. 
I know the LP-100A is very accurate and the only way to know for sure is to 
have Larry at Telepost test it. Most likely wont do wont do that. Are their 
others that see a difference on 6m ?

Thanks Ed N5DG


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Re: [Elecraft] my K3 has some issues

[Bill Johnson]

I saw this error when I was doing a calibration.  I had the KPA1500 powered on. 
 Shut it off and that ended the problem.  Good luck.

Bill
K9YEQ

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Behalf Of Chet S
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 3:02 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] my K3 has some issues

Good afternoon K3 folks,

I am new to this list and honored to be accepted. 

Recently my K3 has experienced a couple of issues. I have been unable to get a 
response from Elecraft e-mail or telephone service regarding the situation. 
It's been almost two weeks now so thought I'd ask here if anyone has some 
suggestions for me to try myself.

Here is the main concern:

When getting ready for CQWWDX SSB a few weeks ago, I went through setting the 
transmit power on each band to drive an amplifier properly. The power display 
seemed a bit sluggish and had a delay in indicating the SWR. Worse yet, when I 
got to 40M, I could not crank the power up past about 30 watts; it would 
momentarily display a higher number but then fall back to 30w. All other bands 
cold be set higher.

First I reloaded all the current firmware in the main and subreceiver. No 
change to 40M.

So next I went to the K3 Utility ver 1.20.1.15 to do a transmitter gain 
calibration. Starting with the 5W calibration, it stepped thru the first few 
bands OK but then stopped (I think on 40M) and displayed "ERR TXG" and the 
message "calibration settled at 3.6W, TX gain failed because transmit power did 
not reach the expected value".

In anticipation of having to send the radio to Elecraft where it might be 
totally reset, I manually started recording all the configuration settings.
When I looked at my filter settings, I was shocked to see that filter 1 in the 
subreceiver was set to 1.35. Huh? It should have been 2.80 !! Was my config 
info corrupted? I reset that to 2.80 and then for the heck of it tried again to 
set the power on 40M. That now  worked "OK"  and the swr and pwr display during 
"tune" showed instantly on all bands. Something had changed.

Next, I decided to rerun the TX calibration gain routine. This time if 
successfully completed the 5w and 50w routines. However, with a good dummy 
load, 40M displays an swr of 1.4, while the other bands are 1.0 or 1.1, so 
something is still a little funny on 40M. What might that be?

I have now been considering doing a total reset of the radio using the EE INIT 
function and then the self calibrations. Is this wise?

Any experiences or suggestions appreciated.

73,
Chet, N8RA

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping?

[Bill Johnson]

I was #12 for the KX3.  It was a field test.  They do more in house now rather 
for more technical engineering feedback, I would guess.

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 1:20 PM
To: N4ZR 
Cc: Elecraft List 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping?

I think they built 20-25 for Field Testors for the KX3. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 2, 2020, at 8:22 AM, N4ZR  wrote:
> 
> Not to be a curmudgeon, but don't you suppose they built at least this many 
> for testers?
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] my KPA1500 and 160M

[Bill Johnson]

Dave, Exactly my point.  Doesn't take long to cause the core to go south.  High 
voltage is fast. 

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2020 12:37 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] my KPA1500 and 160M


No ... overheating doesn't take much time at all.

As I stated in my reply to Bill, high power and high VSWR will indeed heat up a 
ferrite core device ... balun or common mode choke ... and it can do so quite 
quickly.  In my case, I had a 160m Inverted-L that I put up rather hastily for 
a contest and I didn't trim it for best match.  At
100 watts it worked fine because I could tune it at the shack, but at anything 
above 1,000 watts the ferrite core in the common mode choke would heat up and 
fault the amplifier (QRO Technologies HF-2500DX tube
amp) in less than two seconds. This happened repeatedly, and when I got serious 
and fixed the antenna for a lower VSWR everything was stable even at 1500 watts 
and even with the same choke that I luckily hadn't permanently destroyed 
(although I suspect the core had been compromised for original choking 
performance).

High VSWR is very tough on ferrite cores.

Dave   AB7E



On 9/2/2020 6:07 AM, Adrian wrote:
> Overheat is a situation taking time, and usually starts with a good 
> match, then deteriorating.
>
> In this case ; "But when I throw the KAP1500 in line, it gets all 
> pissed off, throws up and faults out.  Says SWR is 99:1 !!!"
>
> indicating an instant issue while the balun is still stone cold...
>
> The 5kw balun is not the best for your situation, but rather the 4116 
> 3KW hybrid
>
> https://www.balundesigns.com/model-4116-4-1-hybrid-balun-1-5-54mhz-3kw
> /
>
> See ;
> https://www.balundesigns.com/blog/baluns-for-multiband-antennas-fed-wi
> th-open-wire-or-ladder-line/
>
> 73
>
>
> Adrian Fewster
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2/9/20 10:12 pm, Bill Johnson wrote:
>> I would agree that the coil could overheat.  The model number is left 
>> out.  The Balun Design coil chosen may not be satisfactory for your 
>> power despite the 5KW rating.  Which Balun are you using?
>>
>> Bill
>> K9YEQ
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>>  On Behalf Of David Gilbert
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 12:28 PM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] my KPA1500 and 160M
>>
>>
>> One distinct possibility is that the 4:1 balun is getting hot at 1500 
>> watts.  Have you tried running the KPA1500 at a lower power?
>>
>> 73,
>> Dave  AB7E
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] my KPA1500 and 160M

[Bill Johnson]

I would agree that the coil could overheat.  The model number is left out.  The 
Balun Design coil chosen may not be satisfactory for your power despite the 5KW 
rating.  Which Balun are you using?

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 12:28 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] my KPA1500 and 160M


One distinct possibility is that the 4:1 balun is getting hot at 1500 watts.  
Have you tried running the KPA1500 at a lower power?

73,
Dave  AB7E



On 9/1/2020 9:36 AM, w5...@comcast.net wrote:
> This morning I put up a W7FG true ladder line 160M doublet.   Upon 
> testing, the K3 internal atu does great, matches at 1.3:1.  But when I 
> throw the KAP1500 in line, it gets all pissed off, throws up and 
> faults out.  Says SWR is 99:1 !!!
>
> The Antenna:  The Apex is at 50'.  It is in a inverted Vee config, 
> with both ends approx 20' off the ground.   I'm using 59' of the 600 
> ohm true ladder line to a Balun Designs 5KW 4:1 Balun. This is fed 
> with 22' of Wilson LMR400
>
> Both the K3 internal atu, AND the KPA1500 internal atu get a great 
> match on 80M, 1.2:1   with no issues.
>
> Honestly, most of the work on 160M is FT8 running 20 watts or less, so 
> just using the K3 to get a successful match on 160M is fine
>
> I just wonder why the KAP1500 doesn't like the same antenna the K3 likes.
>
> Any ideas here fellers?
>
> thanks and 73
>
> 73 and GL OM DE w5sum

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Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

[Bill Johnson]

Exactly spot on in my opinion. What "works" in my backyard, perhaps will not in 
yours.  What seems to be a great antenna in my yard, doesn't make it movable 
and working elsewhere.  That's the fun of antennas IMHO.  Love to experiment 
and don't take too seriously all the suggestions.  I like talking about 
antennas but not pontificating about one over another.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Lyn Norstad
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 8:41 AM
To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Inverted L for 160 meters

Jim, K9YC wrote, in part:

>My approach to ham radio has never been mediocrity, but rather to get 
better at everything within the limits of my real estate and resources. 

Bingo!  We would all like to build the "perfect" antenna for each band and
each intended usage, but more often than not, there are limitations.

In my case, a vertical of any significance would not be permitted by HOA
rules (visible from street), nor would installation of a suitable radial
system be possible due to septic drain field and other considerations - both
physical and aesthetic.

So we do what we can and try to maximize the performance thereof.

Done.

73
Lyn, W0LEN

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Issue

[Bill Johnson]

Before doing that be sure your connections are secured to antenna and it is 
working.

Have a great day!
Bill


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 12:00:19 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Issue

I suggest that you call Elecraft Support on Monday. I'm sure they have a
diagnostic procedure that they can take you through on the phone. Even
if there IS a failure somewhere, chances are that you can fix it
yourself with their help.

Just guessing, but I suggest you open it and make sure all the small
coax cables to the synthesizers are well seated. Since it was recently
shipped, something could have worked loose.

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 19/07/2020 19:53, w5...@comcast.net wrote:
> ok I'm going to be answering several of your suggestions at once
> here.
>
> First, when I powered off last night, I used the power button on the
> K3 itself, I did not kill the power supply first
>
> The sub RX has been turned off and the RX Ant is NOT selected. Ant 1
> is selected and the Antenna IS plugged into the port
>
> The is NO noise shown on the S meter and I have a pretty constant S3
> to S5 noise here at my qth.
>
> Regardless of mode selected there is no power output, the display
> says 0
>
> When I activate the tuner, regardless of band, it shows no SWR, says
> 5 watts out, but there is NO POWER OUT of it. It always acts like it
> is matching, or sounds like it is.
>
> Ronnie
>
> -Original Message- From: Bill Frantz Sent: Sunday, July 19,
> 2020 11:40 AM To: w5...@comcast.net Cc: Ian Kahn ; Elecraft
> Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Issue
>
> The K3 can get antennas in a bewildering collection of ways. If the
> RX antenna switch is on -- and this was my way of getting on
> reception -- it might be your problem. The K3 can also send received
> signals out on one of the BNC connectors and expect to get them back
> on another.
>
> I recommend a careful reading of the manual, perhaps in PDF form with
> a search for "antenna". The manual is downloadable from the Elecraft
> web site.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 7/19/20 at 12:10 PM, w5...@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> yes sir.. using antenna port 1 and have it selected.  HOWEVER.. I
>> did move the antenna to port 2 and selected that port to no
>> improvement. Same issue
>
> ---
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

[Bill Johnson]

I sent my thoughts directly to Scott, not to the reflector.  This one will be 
out of hand in no time.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Ted Roycraft
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 1:56 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production

If that's the way you feel, why don't you ask for your money back?

Ted, W2ZK

On 7/16/2020 13:55, Tox wrote:
> Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts 
> would already have already been in transit before primary covid 
> impacts were in place. OK, that was missed.
>
> I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara 
> County, understand current density and watch county #s (and Health 
> Orders being ignored by the public).
>
> That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately 
> attributable to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result 
> of either failure to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.
>
> We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery 
> promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a 
> year ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.
>
> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny 
> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone 
> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
>
> Scott
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:
>
>> Say again?  The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the 
>> very end of 2019.  Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other 
>> manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia.  Everyones' supply chains 
>> are disrupted now but slowly improving.
>>
>> Elecraft is based in California.  The population density in 
>> California is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter 
>> from everyone else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific 
>> Ocean.
>> [:=)  From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks, 
>> Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND 
>> protect their employees and families so they can continue normal production.
>>
>> 73,
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>>
>> On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
>>> The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
>> pre-covid.
>>> Wondering what the facts are.
>>> (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
>>>string-along)
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

[Bill Johnson]

Wayne,

As I constantly tell myself, never to late or too old to learn.  Your stories 
tells a lot.  I am encouraged to use CW more 

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 1:50 PM
To: John 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

Hi John,

Thanks for bringing Carl and Jerry to my attention. I'd never heard of until 
now (born too late, apparently). Here's a fascinating article about these 
fictional characters, from Popular Science, circa 1960:

   http://www.copperwood.com/carlandjerry.htm

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Jul 12, 2020, at 8:56 AM, John  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Wayne.
> 
> Reminded me of Carl and Jerry.
> 
> 73.
> 
> John.
> 
> ve7day.
> 
> 
> On 12/07/2020 8:07 a.m., Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> I have a friend about my age who got into amateur radio only a few years 
>> ago. Like many of us, he was enthusiastic about the technology. Intrigued 
>> with DX.
>> 
>> I showed him my station; we talked endlessly about gear. Later, I helped him 
>> put up a simple wire antenna.
>> 
>> Then, when his license arrived, he dove straight into FT8 and didn't look 
>> back. Within days, he'd worked all states, then DXCC. He'd bag a few rare 
>> ones over a light lunch, then pat his laptop on the back and congratulate 
>> his software app for its near-mythical ability to extract weak signals out 
>> of noise.
>> 
>> Within weeks, he'd mastered everything there was to know about this glorious 
>> new hobby.
>> 
>> Point. Click.
>> 
>> In this new world order, those of us who took the longer, slower path to 
>> ionospheric enlightenment -- and who still occasionally enjoy making waves 
>> by hand -- often fail to explain why.
>> 
>> I had failed to explain it to my friend. Even as hints of his boredom crept 
>> in, creating an opening, the best argument I'd made for trying CW was that 
>> he could do it without a computer. Coming in a weak second was the notion 
>> that CW was the original digital mode. For obvious reasons, I didn't bother 
>> with the classic argument about CW's signal-to-noise advantage over SSB.
>> 
>> I had all but given up.
>> 
>> Then, in a moment of delayed clarity, I decided on a different approach. I 
>> invited him to a weekday brunch. A bit of an escape. He willingly took the 
>> bait.
>> 
>> On the appointed day, arriving at his workplace, I bypassed the lobby's 
>> glistening elevators and climbed the four flights of stairs to his office. I 
>> insisted we take the stairs down, too.
>> 
>> "Why?" he asked. "And how'd you get up here so fast?"
>> 
>> I pointed out that I always chose stairs, when possible. That's why I wasn't 
>> out of breath. We hustled down, jockeying for position, and emerged on the 
>> ground floor invigorated by the effort.
>> 
>> "So, where are we going?" he asked. We'd been to every overrated 
>> twenty-dollar burger venue at least twice.
>> 
>> I replied that we'd be going someplace we'd never tried. My kitchen.
>> 
>> When we arrived, I put him to work chopping onions and broccoli and 
>> squeezing oranges while I whipped eggs into a froth and grated Swiss cheese. 
>> We ate our omelettes outside, in full sun and a cool breeze.
>> 
>> "What's for desert?" he asked. "Isn't there a frozen yogurt place a 
>> two-minute drive from here?"
>> 
>> I had something else in mind. Back in the kitchen, I handed him a water 
>> bottle, then strapped on a small pack I'd prepared earlier.
>> 
>> We walked a mile or so through my neighborhood, admiring the houses' varied 
>> architecture, ending up (as planned) at a local park festooned with 
>> blackberry bushes. The most accessible branches had been picked clean, but 
>> with teamwork and persistence we were able to gather several large handfuls 
>> of fat, ripe berries, which we devoured on the spot.
>> 
>> We'd been poked and scratched but didn't care.
>> 
>> "Doesn't brunch usually end with champagne?" he wondered aloud, admiring his 
>> wounds.
>> 
>> Not this time. I pulled out two bottles of craft beer that I'd obtained from 
>> a neighbor in trade for repairing his ancient home stereo. Carlos had spent 
>> years crafting an American pilsner to die for, sweating every detail, 
>> including iconic, hand-painted labels.
>> 
>> My friend accepted the bottle, then tried in vain to remove the cap. Not a 
>> twist-off.
>> 
>> "Opener?" he said.
>> 
>> I handed him a small pocket knife, an antique without specialty blades. He 
>> soon discovered it could not be used to remove the cap directly. He looked 
>> at me with a bemused expression, no doubt wondering what I had up my sleeve 
>> this time.
>> 
>> I pointed out that we were surrounded by white oaks, a species known for its 
>> hard wood. He got the message, smiled, and began hunting. Within seconds 
>> he'd collected a small fallen branch. I watched as he used the 

Re: [Elecraft] Early Production K1's

[Bill Johnson]

That's a neat radio.  I owned one for a short while and then fell for the KX1 
and on and on.   I couldn't get Wayne and Eric into me being an FT for the K4, 
but then I rarely do digital and occasional CW.  I love QRP and QRO SSB.  

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Macy monkeys
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:09 AM
To: Tony 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Early Production K1's

I have K1’s 78 and 52, built a long, long time ago. Still percolating 
perfectly. Never had any problems. Used no. 78 in Field Day without nary a 
hiccup.

John K7FD

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Tony  wrote:
> 
> All:
> 
> I may have found the K1 I've been looking for. It's serial number is in the 
> 550 range and I'd like to know if there's any issues with these early 
> production runs before I make a purchase.
> 
> I'm told the K1 is a solid design with quality components so I suspect 
> longevity isn't a problem. I understand parts are available so that doesn't 
> appear to be an issue either.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tony
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Books

[Bill Johnson]

I solved my issues with understanding Elecraft radios, I prefer all thee 
methods of learning to fully know the ins and outs.  What assists me most after 
reading all pertinent parts to my use, is to search a downloaded PDF manual to 
find what I have forgotten and need to refresh my memory.   To me I don't  find 
more books helpful, just the manual and use and quick searches.  Oh, and I save 
the current settings frequently in case I really screw up.  Before I restore, I 
use the issue as a learning tool.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 9:10 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Books

Skip,

Fred addressed 3 different learning methods in his books.  First was those who 
learn by reading (I am one of those), 2nd is those who learn from examples 
(expanded reading) and thirdly those who learn from hands-on exercises.  Fred 
addressed all 3 in his books.
He did comment that there was nothing in his books that was not in the Elecraft 
manual, but his approach to presenting the material was different.  That is why 
his books exceed 200 pages while the Elecraft manuals are usually in the 
vicinity of 100 pages.

On 6/29/2020 7:37 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> I found that the value in Fred's book was due to approach.  The K3 
> manual is good ... very good ... and like most all user manuals, takes 
> a "control approach" -- "The SHIFT and WIDTH controls adjust the 
> center frequency and the width of the DSP filtering."  Fred's book 
> explains what the DSP filtering is, the effects the controls have on 
> it, and how it affects operation of the radio.
> 
> I'm not suggesting the "control approach" is wrong or bad, user 
> manuals need to explain what each control does.  It's just a different 
> approach to the subject.  I find both very useful.
> 
>  From what little I know about the K4, I can't imagine that either a 
> K3 manual or Fred's K3 book would be of much value for a new K4 owner.
> 
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
> On 6/29/2020 4:20 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Tongue planted firmly in cheek --
>> What? Study the manual?  We are hams and can just push buttons and 
>> turn knobs and see what happens!
>>
>> Seriously, I think some hams really do it that way.
>>
>> How much more pleasure would they get out of their gear if they took 
>> the time to study the manual.  That is NOT a casual perusal paging 
>> through the manual.
>> That is sitting down in front of the radio with the manual open and 
>> identifying things as well as trying things out with a dummy load 
>> when it involves transmitting.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 6/29/2020 7:06 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe study the manual? Worked fine for me with most ham gear I've 
>>> owned, including the K3 and companion products.
>>>

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Re: [Elecraft] Self-fusing liquid electrical tape

[Bill Johnson]

I use maps gas with silvafloss.

Have a great day!
Bill


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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Self-fusing liquid electrical tape

I have 12 ground rods in the ring ground system around my house with the
radios in one room inside. the ground rods are all tied to each other
and the power ground. I agree the Cad welds can get expensive, that is
why I high temperature silver soldered the wire and ground rods
together. Not normal soft solder but the high strength, high temperature
silver solder used in HVAC systems. This requires a acetylene torch to
do the soldering with. this accomplishes the same thing that a CAD weld
provides but with less cost if you have gas welding equipment available.
What ever you do make sure the system will maintain very good
connections over time or you are just giveng yourself a false sense of
security that can be very costly both in money and safety over time.

Roger K7RXV

On 6/5/2020 4:20 PM, Mike Maloney wrote:
>   Don,   Are those all 8 ft ground rods driven vertical in ground without 
> help from a rock drill?   Lots of rock in your area?  Mike AC5P
>  On Friday, June 5, 2020, 03:10:11 PM CDT, W2xj  wrote:
>
>   To my mind, false economy.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 5, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> That is why I used the mechanical clamps.  I have 10 ground rods for a 
>> perimeter ground wire around the house, 6 on the perimeter ground around the 
>> workshop building (where the antenna feedlines first enter) and another 4 in 
>> the antenna field.  A total of 20 Cad Welds would have exceeded my budget - 
>> the #4 copper wire was expensive enough!
>> All the clamps are above ground a bit, so I can check the tightness with a 
>> wrench at least once a year.
>> In most cases, the perimeter wires are folded back on itself to fit into the 
>> clamp, so the wire is continuous rather than having cut ends.
>> Yes, even the utility ground rod clamp is exposed.  The building inspector 
>> frowned on it until I told him why and he allowed it because I do not (will 
>> not) mow grass near any of the ground rods.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>> On 6/5/2020 2:55 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>>> Just look at $11.00 per ground rod connection for Cad-Weld as compared to  
>>> $1.98 for a mechanical clamp.  Which do you think a ham will choose ?
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Re: [Elecraft] XG8 Firmware Update

[Bill Johnson]

I don't recall an XG8
Bill
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:19 PM
To: (null) (null) 
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] XG8 Firmware Update

Well, the utility and firmware file.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 8:27 PM (null) (null) via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> With the exception of the USB cable do I need anything else to update the
> firmware on the XG8?
> 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] XG3 Signal Generator

[Bill Johnson]

Yes!

Have a great day!
Bill


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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] XG3 Signal Generator

Best money I have spent on instrumentation I have used it for tons
of stuff.  And it REALLY makes calibrating the K3s easier and IMO more
accurate.

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On 03/24/20 14:17, Bill Smith via Elecraft wrote:
> Looking at buying the XG3 signal generator to calibrate S meters.  
> Particularly thought it would be very useful to calibrate the S meter in the 
> HDSDR SDR software I use now.  I read the S meter calibration instructions in 
> the manual and was happy to see how simple it is.  If I had tried to use my 
> old Tektronix signal generator I would of had to buy an RF Power meter to 
> measure the amplitude and a Step Attenuator to adjust for -73db/50uv.
> Anyone else done this?
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 dead again

[Bill Johnson]

You should call tech to fix get resolved.  Nothing this reflector can do for 
you.
Bill
K9YEQ

Have a great day!
Bill


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 8:50:12 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 dead again

I have KPA500 s/n 3835 which I purchased along with a KAT500, factory
assembled, last Summer.



It soon died and was subsequently returned to Elecraft at the beginning of
August for service, and several parts were replaced.  One part was missing.



The unit was received back from Elecraft at the end of August and has worked
flawlessly since that time.  They extended the warranty to cover the initial
defects (thank you, Elecraft!).



Today, after operating a few hours, I stepped out of the shack for a couple
hours and returned to find the unit was shut off.  Everything else in the
shack was still on and operating (computers, exciter rig, etc.).  It was
impossible to power on, so I removed the fuse block and checked.  Both fuses
check OK with DMM (I am operating on 115 VAC so fuses are 12a).  There is
power thru the power cable.



I can't access any fault information since I cannot power it up.  I don't
seem to have a schematic nor can I find one online to check for other fuses,
etc.  (Anybody have one, or a link?)



Suggestions?  If possible I would like to avoid the lengthy shipping /
service delay and $100+ cost of UPS to return it yet again.  Of course I am
hoping it is something that can be field serviced.



Elecraft Service has been notified, but it is still early in 6-land.



Thanks!



73

Lyn, W0LEN

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?

[Bill Johnson]

Spell check sucks, Shu.

Have a great day!
Bill


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Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:26:04 PM
To: Charles G. Saunders ; Joseph Shuman 

Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?

Shut, for a ham of over 60 years, your post inspires me to get more involved,  
find new stuff to do.   I am getting into VHF-UHF again but will always be on 
the air looking for contacts.   Good luck with your pursuits!

Have a great day!
Bill


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Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:20:18 PM
To: Charles G. Saunders 
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?

I have been using a KX2 with the ATU a little over a year, my first and only 
radio.  I love it and have had great success in field throwing a 58’ wire up a 
tree and a 13’ counterpoise on the ground.  Been experimenting with different 
antenna at home, so far a folded dipole using about 128-130’ of wire being the 
best performer on 80/40/20m.  I put together an external power supply using a 
security system sealed 12V battery in a small plastic ammo box, an auto lighter 
plug and a cheap voltmeter.  I have operated for over two hours at 10W using 
this battery rig and the whole station fits in a small $15.00 backpack.

You are not mistaken, however, posts regarding the KX2 are few and far between. 
 The radio is simply that good!

Keeping Watch-
shu

Joe Shuman, KE8KJZ

> On Jan 29, 2020, at 22:05, Charles G. Saunders  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
> My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
> 73, KW4CZ  Gordon
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?

[Bill Johnson]

Shut, for a ham of over 60 years, your post inspires me to get more involved,  
find new stuff to do.   I am getting into VHF-UHF again but will always be on 
the air looking for contacts.   Good luck with your pursuits!

Have a great day!
Bill


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Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:20:18 PM
To: Charles G. Saunders 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?

I have been using a KX2 with the ATU a little over a year, my first and only 
radio.  I love it and have had great success in field throwing a 58’ wire up a 
tree and a 13’ counterpoise on the ground.  Been experimenting with different 
antenna at home, so far a folded dipole using about 128-130’ of wire being the 
best performer on 80/40/20m.  I put together an external power supply using a 
security system sealed 12V battery in a small plastic ammo box, an auto lighter 
plug and a cheap voltmeter.  I have operated for over two hours at 10W using 
this battery rig and the whole station fits in a small $15.00 backpack.

You are not mistaken, however, posts regarding the KX2 are few and far between. 
 The radio is simply that good!

Keeping Watch-
shu

Joe Shuman, KE8KJZ

> On Jan 29, 2020, at 22:05, Charles G. Saunders  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
> My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
> 73, KW4CZ  Gordon
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?

[Bill Johnson]

You won't hear much about a fantastic radio.  I have used lots of QRP radios 
and the KX2 beats the crap out of all, including the other Elecraft QRP radios 
for size and true portability.  It is my best ever go to portable. Now if Wayne 
could shrink it more?

Have a great day!
Bill


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Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 9:05:44 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 ... Any KX2 users on this list?

Hi all,
Just curious, I haven't seen much of anything on the KX2's here.
My first Elecraft rig and really having a good time learning.
73, KW4CZ  Gordon
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Re: [Elecraft] OT- Final edition before release

[Bill Johnson]

Actually there were programmer rules and conventions while writing which did 
require that the managers maintained the proper procedures.  These conventions 
disappeared, programmers quit document lines of code and then all hell broke 
loose.  Do you think this changed today?  Layers and layers of non-descript 
code exist and plague the programs today.  Backwards compatibility and 
versioning have helped create the buggy world of today. Sloppy programming, 
lack of oversight and accountability plague our world.  You ask?  How do I know 
this, worked in the industry.

73,
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Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 7:52 PM
To: William Levy 
Cc: Elecraft 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT- Final edition before release

I used to tell my little brother that the reason computers were getting more 
powerful and more expensive was because programmers were paid too much and when 
they got that big check they would just go out and buy a bigger, more powerful 
computer and then would write software that wouldn't run properly on the older, 
cheaper machines, so we had to upgrade to bigger, more expensive computers, 
just to do the same things we did on our older, slower, cheaper computers. He 
just smiled.

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM William Levy  wrote:

> Perhaps you haven't noticed.
>
> The software is never finished because we now have to upgrade:
>
> Our cameras
> Our radios
> Our TV's
> Our Computers
> Our GPS boxes
>
> It never stops. How I miss my KWM2A!
>
> Oh and now that the photo cells have gotten better than film ever was..
> we have to upgrade our lenses. This goes for everything else on the 
> list above.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

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The parts delay is really a good thing. The test units will provide lots of 
opportunity for more bugs to be worked out.  I know, I have purchased lots of 
"stuff" with bugs as the process has been let's get it launched and straighten 
out the errors as we go.  The delay, caused by parts,  is a huge benefit.  I 
expect the eventual roll out will be closer to done.  What other company has 
been so up front?  Go Elecraft.

72 & 73,
Bill
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

Dear OMs and YLs, Better the extra time to do things right.73 Doug EI2CNSent 
from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Buddy Brannan  
Date: 16/01/2020  07:29  (GMT+00:00) To: mark roz  Cc: 
Elecraft  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now 
in May Disappointing? It’s not unusual. Same happened with the 
KX3—production/shipping delays—and, I gather, same happened with the K3 as 
well. I don’t recall if the same delays happened with the KX1 or not. But it’s 
one of those nature of the beast things. I ordered my KX3 just a day or so 
after the announcement of the preorder window came up, and the scheduled 
beginning of production slipped. I think it slipped a couple times. Finally got 
it about a week before Field Day, and it was a sub-500 serial number. Was it 
worth the extra wait? Absolutely, without question it was. It was everything 
I’d hoped for it to be and then some. Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PAEmail: 
buddy@brannan.nameMobile: (814) 431-0962> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:01 PM, mark roz 
via Elecraft  wrote:> > Wow. K4- perhaps first 
delivery in May now.> Very disappointing.> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Bill Johnson]

TO be expected. If I die before delivery, no problem, I won't care.  :-)

73,
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Elecraft mailing list wrote
> Wow. K4- perhaps first delivery in May now.
> Very disappointing.

Hard to be disappointed when a delay beyond what was only a potential launch 
date was inevitable. it’s a very complex transceiver, and manufacturing what 
begins as a prototype is always difficult at best. 

Lou, W0FK 



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

[Bill Johnson]

I am 74!

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 7:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 delivery is now in May

I, too, am disappointed. No one will die? Well, I’m 78, sir. I hope I have a 
few more years . . . . 

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Michael Walker  wrote:
> 
> All in good time
> 
> The world won’t end and no one will die if it comes out later. 
> 
> Mike va3mw 
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Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3S/10 - $1095 shipped USPS

[Bill Johnson]

This sounds like better directed personally rather than to reflector.   I think 
your advice is right on.
Bill
K9YEQ

Bill
920-421-1172


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of K9FD 
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 8:51:25 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3S/10 - $1095 shipped USPS

realize its a 10 watter,  and only says the synth was upgraded,  if you
upgrade to 100W
and the other new boards for that serial number you are talking pretty
expensive,
well over another 1000 bucks,
Right now there are a number of K3 radios with all updates and both
receivers,  full of filters
for sale and  prices are under 2000 bucks.   lot cheaper than updating a
10 watter with one
receiver.   Have seen them as low as 1400 for both receivers, 100w and
all updated boards.


> Calling an upgraded K3 a K3s may be an overstatement, but the price seems
> pretty good for an upgraded K3s.
>
> Chris AD1AD
>
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020, Clay Autery  wrote:
>
>> I'm sure this is just a misunderstanding.  No one would intentionally
>> misrepresent their Elecraft gear in this way.
>>
>> There is NO REASONABLE WAY to make a K3 into a K3s...  It may be an
>> upgraded K3, but it can NEVER be a K3s.
>>
>> Please correct your listing... :-)
>>
>> __
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>> (318) 518-1389
>>
>> On 01/09/20 12:09, Bart Jahnke wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Thinning my heard.
>>>
>>> FS: I have too many HF transceivers, and this one is not getting the use
>>> it
>>> deserves. Spare to my needs is this Elecraft K3S/10 transceiver, serial
>>> 5623. This unit was upgraded from a K3/10 to a K3S/10 with the KSYN3A mod
>>> added - it has the KXV3A transverter I/O interface - and has an IRC 701A
>>> 400 Hz 8-pole CW filter. Comes with microphone, power cable, and printed
>>> manual. For those with LDMOS amplifiers, this 12 watt radio has more than
>>> enough drive. Asking $1095 shipped to any US Postal Address - PayPal
>>> (friends and family) or USPS Money Order!
>>>
>>> See https://swap.qth.com/search-results.php?keywords=w9jj
>>> osearch=call
>>>
>>> 73 Bart W9JJ
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report

[Bill Johnson]

I don't think sun spot cycle is here yet.  The observers haven't noted the 
tell-tale sign of the spots reversing polarization.  The cycles don't run a 
calendar from what I have learned and because this cycle is one of lowest in 
recorded history, possible we won't see the change from now until 2021.  Once 
the expected polarization happens then that should be the beginning.  But at 
least we have experienced a couple.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of kevinr
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 9:57 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report

Good Evening,

    I turned on the rig and found 20 meters filled with a roaring, windy sound. 
 Just a little QSB, on 40 meters it would be worse. The sun has thrown 
something at the earth.  Enough of it to cause impressive aurora.  One tiny 
sunspot can't be this strong; unless those of cycle 25 are special.  I say we 
need more of them so we can test this hypothesis.


   On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:

K6XK - Roy - IA

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K4JPN - Steve - GA

K0JFJ - Nick - AZ

KC1ACL - Steven - NM


   On 7047.5 kHz at z:

KC1ACL - Steven - NM

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K6PJV - Dale - CA

K0JFJ - Nick - AZ


    Weather reports were of a mild new year.  Even Oregon has had moments of 
sunshine.  If this keeps up I'll need to go hiking.  Or maybe it's time to work 
on antennas.  It is muddy enough.  If the rainy days continue I'll get some 
work done.  If not I'll be too busy working outside to get anything done :)


Until next week stay warm and stay well 73,

     Kevin.  KD5ONS


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Re: [Elecraft] Battery Charger for Small Solar Power Syatem

[Bill Johnson]

I would echo that.  The used laptop batteries, I have  found, usually have only 
1 dead cell.  Be careful when harvesting so as not to short one. Nasty if you 
do.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 7:55 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Battery Charger for Small Solar Power Syatem

Start simple...car battery, or borrow from your lawn tractor.
Small charge controller selected for min RFI.
If the kid can concentrate on a job, salvage 18650 cells from old laptop 
batteries and build packs of whatever size you need.
"Dead laptop batteries usually have just a couple of bad cells and some shops 
will give/sell them cheap.
Ebay has the plastic hardware for assembling packs without duct tape.
Get single cell chargers from ebay for initial conditioning.
There's a lot of potential learning here!
73,
Wilson
W4BOH
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Re: [Elecraft] Reaching Across the Chronological Divide

[Bill Johnson]

Well put.  Totally agree.

Bill
920-421-1172


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Don Wilhelm 
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2019 10:37:15 PM
To: David Gilbert ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reaching Across the Chronological Divide

I think we need to be focusing on the personal aspect of one on one
communications with someone who we have never met - without the need for
the internet, Facebook or any other internet app.
It is a thrill to me to be able to have a conversation with someone new
via ham radio.

Of course, even that element is fading out in ham radio with the
emphasis on quick DX contacts or contest points.  Ragchewing with
someone new to get to know something about them personally or their
location is what gives me the thrill of ham radio.  So sad to see that
element being diminished.

Bring ragchewing back, and I am not talking about the nets on 80 and 40
meters, it is reaching out to someone new and telling a bit about
ourselves and getting the same in return.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/22/2019 11:17 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
>
> I think we already discussed that aspect, and the point is that young
> people with a technological inclination are far more likely to be
> interested in software, or robotics, or biomedical ... stuff that has
> more relevance to advancing the world and actually leading to a job.  It
> might be a challenge to bounce a signal of the ionosphere but people
> were doing that 100 years ago.
>
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
> On 12/22/2019 6:52 PM, Robert G Strickland via Elecraft wrote:
>> There is a constant refrain about "communicating with far away
>> places." No doubt that has been one attraction of our hobby. For
>> myself, I was never particularly interested in "communicating." For me
>> it was mastery of a technical environment. Communicating was just the
>> proof that the environment had been mastered. Another way of saying
>> this -maybe- is technology versus sociology. There are many
>> traditional activities that have been replaced by more modern versions
>> [eg, horses versus cars, walking versus bicycling, bow/arrow versus
>> guns]. Yet, there is still interest in the "old way," because the
>> earlier challenges remain in spite of more modern solutions. Getting a
>> signal from my radio, out into the ether, bouncing it off the
>> ionosphere, and back down on the other side is still a challenge.
>> Satellite links and the internet don't negate the ionospheric
>> challenge. Perhaps engaging prospective hams in the technical
>> challenges of the hobby will brings in those who like such challenges.
>> Communicating may be the benny on the other side of mastery.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio

[Bill Johnson]

You may need to upgrade the connectors.  The issue can be created by 
inconsistent contact and corruption of the firmware.  Reload and replace the 
connectors.

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Rick Bates, NK7I
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 2:53 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio

My K3 has the same issue.  It is a hardware issue since software control of the 
volume (HRD) does not cause any problems.

I've not taken the front panel off to see if the pots can be 'treated' 
with Deoxit yet.

73 es Merry Christmas,
Rick NK7I


On 12/19/2019 9:01 AM, Larry Boekeloo wrote:
> I have a K3, serial #5278,  that's had an receive audio issue for 
> almost as long as I've owned it.
>
> When I turn the AF gain nearly or completely counter clockwise, the 
> audio goes to full volume.  The only way to fix the problem, is to 
> quickly turn the AF gain back up and down a few times.  Many times, 
> I'll want to turn the audio all the way to answer the phone or talk to 
> someone in the shack, and the audio goes to full volume.
>
> Many times, if I reload the DSP software, the issue goes away for a 
> few months.  I have the latest software loaded.
>
> Anyone else have this problem?  Maybe the AF gain pot needs to be replaced?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Larry, KN8N
> Kalamazoo, Michigan
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Low Gain / Attenuator

[Bill Johnson]

George,  I didn't see a response.  I would reload your back up firmware.   If 
you didn't backup, then reload from website for the latest.

Bill
920-421-1172


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
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Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 4:52:42 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Low Gain / Attenuator

My kPA1500 is showing this msg: ATTENUATE REASON NONE.  When keyed, the
amp displays LOW GAIN RATIO 1.  Is there a way to reset the amp to full
power?

73, George K5KG


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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] K3S to be discontinued

[Bill Johnson]

Thank you, Bob.  Rob, clarified to me.  Seems most transmitters are in the same 
boat using solid state transmitters/amplifiers, vs. tubes.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2019 7:25 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K3] K3S to be discontinued

I suppose I am the "Bob" you refer to.   The section in Rob's article on 
Odd-Order Intermodulation he clearly explains "worse".

Our receivers have gotten much better over the years but unfortunately our 
transmitters and amplifiers have gotten worse. To quantify, the ARRL published 
a compendium of distortion products of linear amplifiers in 1997.  The third 
order distortion was in the 40 and 50 dB PEP range. In 2019 an ARRL review of 
solid state legal limit amplifiers reported the third order distortion was only 
down 30 dB.  This is a 10 to 20 dB degradation from 1997 to 2019.    I'd call 
this "worse".

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/3/2019 6:56 PM, Bill K9YEQ wrote:
>
> “worse” seems a bit much when looking at the actual levels.  Bob, did 
> you mean something else?  I know this is semantics….
>
> 73,
>
> Bill
>
> K9YEQ
>
> https://wrj-tech.com/
>
> *From:*elecraft...@groups.io  *On Behalf Of 
> *Rob Sherwood
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 3, 2019 5:16 PM
> *To:* elecraft...@groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S to be discontinued
>
> The K3S is excellent in respect to transmit composite noise. Transmit 
> IMD, on the other hand, is quite different at various power levels.
> The sweet spot is around 35 watts, but much worse at 12 watts and 100 
> watts.  Here is composite noise data.  Hopefully the formatting will 
> hold up.
>
> Rob, NC0B
>
> Transmit Composite Noise Rig Comparisons 20 meters values in dBc/Hz
>
> Rig @ 100 watts    2 kHz offset    10 kHz offset
> 20 kHz offset  100 kHz offset
>
> K3S -141   n/a -143
>
> FTdx-101D -133   -137 -138   
> -141
>
> IC-7851 -129   n/a -138
>
> IC-7610 -128   -130   -142
>
> Flex 6400 -122   -127   -139
>
> IC-7300 -121   -121   -124
>
> FTdx-3000 -120   n/a -121
>
> TS-890S     -116 -119
> -127   -139
>
> Rig @ 30 watts   2 kHz offset    10 kHz offset  
> 20 kHz offset  100 kHz offset
>
> FTdx-101D -129   -134 -135   
> -137
>
> K3S -132   n/a -140
>
> IC-7851 -123   n/a -133
>
> IC-7610 -122   -124   -127
>
> Flex 6400 -120   -125 -137
>
> FTdx-3000 -117   n/a -117
>
> TS-890S     -112 -115
> -124   -135
>
> IC-7300 -110   -109   -116
>
> *From:*elecraft...@groups.io  
> [mailto:elecraft...@groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Wes
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 03, 2019 10:32 AM
> *To:* elecraft...@groups.io 
> *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S to be discontinued
>
> If TX IMD is the issue, K3 and K3S transmitters are a real mixed bag. 
> My old K3 at 30 watts is fantastic, with IMD at all frequencies better 
> than -40 dBc (ARRL method).  The same radio at 10W is the worst of my 
> two radios, except at 24 MHz where the K3 and K3S tie at -22 dBc.
>
> It's been hard to keep up with these measurements since the KLPA3A in 
> the K3S has been replaced twice and the KPA3A is IIRC, on the fourth 
> version.
>
> Wes  N7WS
>
> On 11/3/2019 8:16 AM, Martin Sole wrote:
>
> I suspect the quality of the transmitter particularly with regard
> to its composite noise spectrum to be a large player. Some radios
> with high end receiver performance have rudimentary (I'm being
> kind) transmitter composite noise performance.
>
> See what NK7Z, NC0B and K9YC have written about this.
>
>
> Martin, HS0ZED
>
> On 03/11/2019 21:30, Mark Morin wrote:
>
> My experience is that the type of rig does make a difference
> for close coexistence. We’ve found on DxPeditions that an
> upgraded K3 with KPA500 and a Kenwood TS-590s also with
> KPA500, can coexist quite well with antennas about 300 ft
> apart. On most bands, we can operate SSB and CW simultaneously
> with tolerable QRM. Other times we have tried different
> high-end rigs in similar setup and found that opposite end of
> same-band operation was nearly impossible due to QRM. I
> suspect it’s mostly the receivers that makes the difference.
>
>

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 186, Issue 20

[Bill Johnson]

And know that noise can slow down connection.  There are very nice devices that 
don't use power lines, cost more but better.


73,
Bill
K9YEQ


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Behalf Of JOE
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:00 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; ts2...@sy-edm.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 186, Issue 20

Subject: [Elecraft] OT Powerline Wifi extenders
> Fellow Elecrafters,
>   I am trying to extend the wifi 
> based internet coverage in my property.

As someone else pointed out, responders are confusing WiFi extenders 
with Broadband over powerline (BPL). You want a WiFi extender that uses 
the building wiring get from point-to-point.

I used one a long time ago and speed was not very good. It depends upon 
what speed you need.

The plugin WiFi extenders probably suffer as the old X-10 remote control 
devices did years ago in that the two units have to be on the same 
110VAC leg. If the two devices are on opposite legs of the 220VAC main 
feed the signal of the X-10 system had to go all the way out to the 
street power transformer and back to the house. The transformer, plus 
line length, attenuated the signal so it did not work. The fix was to 
add a network (capacitor) across the 220 line to make a path for the 
signal. (maybe not up to code). I would imagine that the AC plugin WiFi 
extenders would suffer the same fate.

The sort story is to probably make sure the 2 devices are on the same 
110VAC leg and powered from the same service box.

73, Joe, K1ike


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Re: [Elecraft] Radio clocks, internet and security!

[Bill Johnson]

Don, 
Plus you actually get exercise when you walk to your devices rather than rely 
on some software that does in fact invade your privacy. I am with you on this 
100%.

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 6:55 PM
To: hawley, charles j jr ; Wayne Burdick 

Cc: Elecraft Reflector ; elecraft...@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft] Radio clocks, internet and security!

Chuck and all,

How many actually use the clock in the K3, K3S, KX3 or KX2?
I certainly don't.  In the case of the KX3 it is used to time the charging of 
the internal batteries - good use.

I can see a ham without a watch or cell phone to want the rig to display the 
time for logging, but for me, my good old Timex on my wrist tells me what time 
to log.  The clock in my KX3 is more difficult to access than simply glancing 
at my wrist!

I have never even set the clock in my K3 or KX3!  Nor do I feel a need to do so.

As far as the K4 Linux software/firmware being internet connected, I have my 
reservations about that.  I have enough stuff connected to the internet, and 
someone will have to demonstrate the benefit of my ham radio being connected to 
the internet in addition to my computers.

If connection of the K4 to the internet is to be done, I have concerns about 
security and personal privacy.  Even Linux is subject to bad stuff from the 
internet - it is not entirely secure, it is just that the number of users is 
small compared to other OS versions and hackers just do not bother for most 
cases.

When my refrigerator or microwave begins to listen in to my conversations, I 
begin to worry about the BIG Brother consequences.

BTW, I do not have an Alexa or Siri device for those security reasons. 
I can easily use a switch on the wall to operate a light switch and it is 
secure. I can turn on my home theater or my computer AV application when I want 
to hear music or view videos.

Call me old-fashioned, but I like to have control of my environment. 
The Internet Of Things seems to be fraught with exposures and dangers that I am 
not willing to accept.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/18/2019 2:03 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
> Is a more accurate clock possible? I imagine that depends on available chips 
> but it’s a common topic.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] new revision of KPA500 LPF T_R Switching rework Rev.E guide available

[Bill Johnson]

Please explain.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Wes
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 6:58 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new revision of KPA500 LPF T_R Switching rework Rev.E 
guide available

I don't believe that configuration management is Elecraft's strong suit.

On 9/30/2019 4:17 PM, Andy Durbin wrote:
> Elecraft must be enjoying the confusion.
>
> Andy, k3wyc
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Audio Hum in TX Data Mode

[Bill Johnson]

That is a great idea unless you have my station... I have 4 computers, and tons 
of other stuff.  Tried to isolate the issue and decided on the opto isolator as 
the simplest and time saving fix.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Jim - N4ST
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 7:43 PM
To: 'Conrad PA5Y' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Audio Hum in TX Data Mode

Conrad,

Can you turn off the other devices around your rig to see if any of them are 
creating the problem?
I had a small portable electric heater that created hum in my K3S when plugged 
into the same outlet.
Running the heater on an extension cord to an outlet across the room fixed the 
problem.

Have you measured the AC ripple on the output of your DC power supply when you 
are key down?


73,
Jim - N4ST


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
Behalf Of Conrad PA5Y
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 17:27
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Audio Hum in TX Data Mode

I put up a new 6m antenna mainly for EME and I was so looking forward to
using my K3S. The RX is great, I run it in parallel with 2 other receivers
and it works very well on EME. However try as I might I cannot get rid of
some quite bad hum on the TX Audio. I am using USB and before you ask yes I
have got a low impedance ground from the PC to the K3S although removing it
makes absolutely no difference.  What did make a difference was moving the
radio away from sources of magnetic fields such as monitors. However I
cannot get rid of it completely. It also increases or at least changes when
I put my hands on the radio. 

I have a few other radios located nearby and close to a monitor, pc or PSU
and they do not suffer from this at all. Is this a common problem, is it a
bad ground in the audio path internally or magnetic coupling into an audio
transformer?

It is completely impractical for me to move my radios 10 feet from any
magnetic fields. Short of wrapping the radio in mu metal I really do not
seem to be able to fix this.

Any ideas? I have read and understood and followed Jim K9YC's advice and
this works perfectly for my other 3 radios. I am really at a loss.

73

Conrad PA5Y
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!

[Bill Johnson]

To that end, I use a remote switch to remove direct connection and have all the 
grounding to an extensive ground system to to all my ground side connectors to 
attract any static to ground without shorting or providing any direct path to 
my shack.

Bill
920-421-1172


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of David Gilbert 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 4:45:55 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failing on 160...AGAIN!


I've probably posted this here before, but I once had a 160m Inverted-V
at 70 feet that didn't have a DC ground.  As a thunderstorm approached
(but was still several miles away) I reached down to short the coax end
in the shack and drew a heavy blue 2 inch long arc that traveled from
the end of the coax into my left arm and out my right arm to the
concrete floor.  My biceps were sore for three days.

The breakdown inception voltage of 2 inches of dry air is generally
considered to be over 150,000 volts.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 9/27/2019 1:59 PM, K8TE wrote:
> For those with insulated verticals, the potential gradient is about 100
> V/meter.  That varies with humidity and altitude.  But, you get the picture.
> In dry climates like here in NM, this is a big deal for commercial broadcast
> AM antennas.   Even with the transmitter shut down, unless there is a "DC
> ground" on the antenna, one shorts the tower to ground first prior to
> climbing on or off the tower.  This was a big deal when the local power
> company rescued three folks from our 770 tower after it "captured" their hot
> air balloon!
>
> Bleeding off static electricity is a big deal.  Wind blowing dust, snow, or
> rain can generate thousands of Volts that can provide a mean shock to us
> humans and hurt our radio gear.  I am leaving for the race track to play
> with my Miata this weekend.  I will disconnect my antennas, just in case.
>
> 73, Bill, K8TE
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Audio Hum in TX Data Mode

[Bill Johnson]

You can buy an audio isolator cable on line to remove the ground loop issues.  
Just search the topic for devices.  I believe I used Amazon.

Bill
920-421-1172


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Conrad PA5Y 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 4:26:55 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] Audio Hum in TX Data Mode

I put up a new 6m antenna mainly for EME and I was so looking forward to using 
my K3S. The RX is great, I run it in parallel with 2 other receivers and it 
works very well on EME. However try as I might I cannot get rid of some quite 
bad hum on the TX Audio. I am using USB and before you ask yes I have got a low 
impedance ground from the PC to the K3S although removing it makes absolutely 
no difference.  What did make a difference was moving the radio away from 
sources of magnetic fields such as monitors. However I cannot get rid of it 
completely. It also increases or at least changes when I put my hands on the 
radio.

I have a few other radios located nearby and close to a monitor, pc or PSU and 
they do not suffer from this at all. Is this a common problem, is it a bad 
ground in the audio path internally or magnetic coupling into an audio 
transformer?

It is completely impractical for me to move my radios 10 feet from any magnetic 
fields. Short of wrapping the radio in mu metal I really do not seem to be able 
to fix this.

Any ideas? I have read and understood and followed Jim K9YC's advice and this 
works perfectly for my other 3 radios. I am really at a loss.

73

Conrad PA5Y
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC off mutes audio?; DO A BACKUP TO PRESERVE SETTINGS

[Bill Johnson]

This is why keeping a backup can be the best tool of the bunch.  You run into 
an issue, reload the backup.  Then erroneous settings made in haste or error 
can be fixed.  Now that you have fixed and radio is running as you want, do a 
backup.  Sometimes glitches get into the mix for no good reason, do a backup.  
Install it first to fix the settings.  Will save yourself lots of grief in the 
future.

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Conrad PA5Y
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 4:38 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC off mutes audio?

Yes that was it Bob and Wes, it was set to 001!

Thanks!

Conrad PA5Y

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
Sent: 22 September 2019 22:44
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC off mutes audio?

Check the AF LIM settings.  {page 57 in the manual}    Typical value is NOR 030.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 9/22/2019 2:42 PM, Conrad PA5Y wrote:
> Hello I have a K3S with the latest firmware. I use it on EME in fact 
> last night was the first time. It works well but for EME I prefer to 
> operate with the AGC off. If I do a long press on the AGC button then 
> AGC switches off but so does the audio. I still see the S meter moving 
> slightly which is strange when the AGC is off. On all my other radios 
> when I switch AGC off then the S meter does not function. I assume 
> that there is a another setting that causes this . or it is a bug.
> For now I have set the AGC threshold quite high which I may end up 
> doing on a permanent basis, then locals don't distort 
>
> Any idea what is going on?
>
> 73
>
> Conrad PA5Y
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Re: [Elecraft] Biding my time ...

[Bill Johnson]

I am a youngster at 73.  I want to keep my equipment current,  so don't mind 
the financials. I love to keep current and while this results in loss of 
original investment the upgrades are amazing.  I have my K4 order in.   At my 
age ok for a secondary purchaser to scarf up my perfect rig with all the 
options, and I mean ALL the options.

Bill
920-421-1172


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of K4HYJ via Elecraft 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 5:17:13 PM
To: 'Wes' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Biding my time ...

Wait for the K4S like me!

Hank
K4HYJ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Wes
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 6:02 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Biding my time ...

Money wise I can afford a K4.  Time wise, I'm not so sure.  I'll turn 78 next 
month and based on experience with being the first kid on the block with a K3S, 
I'll wait a year for the K4 birth defects to be fixed.  Between that and with 
the current state of the bands, I might never buy one, although I have a zero 
dollar order in and the time lines might actually cross.

Wes  N7WS

On 9/15/2019 2:20 PM, Ronnie Hull wrote:
> Finances force me to stick with my K3
> It’ll probably be the last new rig I ever purchase
>
> 73 es God bless W5SUM
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

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Re: [Elecraft] K2USA

[Bill Johnson]

I had my training at Ft. Monmouth.  They had a great Collins station available 
for HAMS to use.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Roger D Johnson
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 5:42 PM
To: Elecraft 
Subject: [Elecraft] K2USA

I was never at Ft Monmouth...took my training at Ft Gordon. We had a small 
hamshack there not nearly as elaborate as k2USA. I almost blew up the building 
one night. My first experience firing a furnace using soft coal.

73, Roger
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Re: [Elecraft] Low activity

[Bill Johnson]

Oh, but I have 2 KX3's and one PX3, a KXPA100.  Oh, did I mention a KX2 and all 
it's stuff.  I am an Elecraft junkie... because I love their stuff, and, all of 
it is so well engineered. Their customer service for us with logical issues is 
just so superior.  

The most important factor on this thread... we are improving ACTIVITY.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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-Original Message-
From: hawley, charles j jr  
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 6:04 PM
To: Bill Johnson 
Cc: Wayne Burdick ; rv6amark ; Elecraft 
Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low activity

The K3S is an incredibly compact and extremely capable rig. It has a handle on 
the side too. I don't quite see the rush to sell it if you buy a K4. 

Jack BMW Motorcycles
Chuck KE9UW
c-haw...@illinois.edu

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 13, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Bill Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Oh, maybe I should offer my K3S with ALL the options and the P3 for advance 
> ordering as well?  
> 
> 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> 
> https://wrj-tech.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>  On Behalf Of Bill Johnson
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 5:33 PM
> To: Wayne Burdick ; rv6amark 
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low activity
> 
> And I have ordered one with all the goodies, so, Wayne,  get on it!!  :-)  
> Keep those elves a truckin'!
> 
> 72 & 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 
> 
> https://wrj-tech.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>  On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 2:46 PM
> To: rv6amark 
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector ; Grant Youngman 
> ; Szabó István 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low activity
> 
>> What is the BEST antenna to use with my K???   
> 
> Rhombic or Sterba curtain. Unless you're doing pedestrian mobile, in 
> which case...AX1 :)
> 
> 
>> September has been fairly quiet
> 
> Speaking strictly for all of us, the Elecraft Elves are so busy K4ing that 
> some aren't posting as often as usual.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Low activity

[Bill Johnson]

Oh, maybe I should offer my K3S with ALL the options and the P3 for advance 
ordering as well?  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

https://wrj-tech.com/

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Bill Johnson
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 5:33 PM
To: Wayne Burdick ; rv6amark 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low activity

And I have ordered one with all the goodies, so, Wayne,  get on it!!  :-)  Keep 
those elves a truckin'!

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

https://wrj-tech.com/

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 2:46 PM
To: rv6amark 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector ; Grant Youngman 
; Szabó István 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low activity

> What is the BEST antenna to use with my K???   

Rhombic or Sterba curtain. Unless you're doing pedestrian mobile, in which 
case...AX1 :)


> September has been fairly quiet

Speaking strictly for all of us, the Elecraft Elves are so busy K4ing that some 
aren't posting as often as usual.

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Low activity

[Bill Johnson]

And I have ordered one with all the goodies, so, Wayne,  get on it!!  :-)  Keep 
those elves a truckin'!

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 2:46 PM
To: rv6amark 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector ; Grant Youngman 
; Szabó István 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Low activity

> What is the BEST antenna to use with my K???   

Rhombic or Sterba curtain. Unless you're doing pedestrian mobile, in which 
case...AX1 :)


> September has been fairly quiet

Speaking strictly for all of us, the Elecraft Elves are so busy K4ing that some 
aren't posting as often as usual.

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 no output

[Bill Johnson]

Good advice.  I used to work as an office manager for a large  insurance 
carrier.  I hate claims, so all advice is welcome.  I am not going to add 
further to this discussion. Do your homework.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 2:37 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 no output

Be sure you insist the damage is "lightning damage" and not, as the insurance 
company will prefer, a "power surge".   With lightning damage and 
documentation, such as a service report stating lightning damage from Elecraft, 
 they should pay replacement value less your deductible.    With power surge 
they will only pay depreciated value less your deductible.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 9/1/2019 2:22 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
> Your homeowner's insurance should cover you.  Look for a thunderstorm history 
> at the approximate time of your failure.
>
> 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ
>
> https://wrj-tech.com/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>  On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 2:04 PM
> To: l...@lnainc.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 no output
>
> Lyn,
>
> I think one possible answer is that it got hot enough to release from the 
> soldering on the board during whatever event happened.
> Sounds like it may have been hit with a lightning surge.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/1/2019 2:29 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
>> UPDATE:
>>
>> I received my 6 week old KPA500 back from Elecraft on Friday.  The good news 
>> is that it seems to be working as it should (rather than as it was …).  The 
>> bad news is that in its 6 weeks of life, it spent 4 of those weeks back in 
>> the Elecraft hospital undergoing major (?) surgery.
>>
>> When it faulted and blew out the front end on my IC7300, it also took out 
>> its own TR circuit as well as its PA module.  Seven components were found to 
>> be defective, and one was actually missing.
>>
>> I’d be curious as to how “missing” happens … on a totally factory built unit.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Lyn, WØLEN
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX [mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net]
>> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 7:14 PM
>> To: l...@lnainc.com
>> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 no output
>>
>> Lyn:
>>
>> I use a balanced feed system for one of my antennas.   For that I have a
>> pair of small engine spark plugs on an aluminum plate for an arc gap
>> located just before the balanced line enters the house.   That balanced
>> line runs all the way to the balun on the shelf just above the KAT500 
>> tuner.  The coax lines and rotor line all have PolyPhaser devices at the
>> same entrance location.   No mechanical / manual disconnect method is
>> used at my QTH.
>>
>> A bit more information, I have my lightning ground system outside of 
>> the house, and the tower is grounded to the same system and that 
>> system is bonded back to the AC mains ground.  Again all is outside of the
>> house.I do not have or use a station ground which connects to the
>> equipment on the desk.  The 3rd pin safety ground is all that is 
>> required.  I have a dedicated service from the breaker panel for the
>> station.   I do have each piece of equipment bonded to the station power
>> supply ground terminal with each piece of equipment having a dedicated
>> jumper.   My bonding jumpers are made from #10 AWG automotive primary
>> wire with a suitable ring terminal which is crimped and soldered on 
>> each end.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/2019 6:22 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
>>> I don't believe so, Bob.  While we have had a number of storms this year, 
>>> there have been none since I received the KPA500.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I have a large knife switch in a box outside that I use to disconnect 
>>> my balanced feed line if there are storms headed our way.  I tend to be 
>>> paranoid about lightning, as we had a direct strike on our house some 7 
>>> years ago ... and I didn't even have any antennas at that time.  We 
>>> sustained extensive damage.  So I don't take any chances!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lyn
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX [mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net]
>>> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 5:18 PM
>>> To: l...@lnainc.com
>>> Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Elecraft] K

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 no output

[Bill Johnson]

Your homeowner's insurance should cover you.  Look for a thunderstorm history 
at the approximate time of your failure.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 2:04 PM
To: l...@lnainc.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 no output

Lyn,

I think one possible answer is that it got hot enough to release from the 
soldering on the board during whatever event happened.
Sounds like it may have been hit with a lightning surge.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/1/2019 2:29 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
> UPDATE:
> 
> I received my 6 week old KPA500 back from Elecraft on Friday.  The good news 
> is that it seems to be working as it should (rather than as it was …).  The 
> bad news is that in its 6 weeks of life, it spent 4 of those weeks back in 
> the Elecraft hospital undergoing major (?) surgery.
> 
> When it faulted and blew out the front end on my IC7300, it also took out its 
> own TR circuit as well as its PA module.  Seven components were found to be 
> defective, and one was actually missing.
> 
> I’d be curious as to how “missing” happens … on a totally factory built unit.
> 
> 73
> 
> Lyn, WØLEN
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX [mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net]
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 7:14 PM
> To: l...@lnainc.com
> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 no output
> 
> Lyn:
> 
> I use a balanced feed system for one of my antennas.   For that I have a
> pair of small engine spark plugs on an aluminum plate for an arc gap
> located just before the balanced line enters the house.   That balanced
> line runs all the way to the balun on the shelf just above the KAT500 
> tuner.  The coax lines and rotor line all have PolyPhaser devices at the
> same entrance location.   No mechanical / manual disconnect method is
> used at my QTH.
> 
> A bit more information, I have my lightning ground system outside of 
> the house, and the tower is grounded to the same system and that 
> system is bonded back to the AC mains ground.  Again all is outside of the
> house.I do not have or use a station ground which connects to the
> equipment on the desk.  The 3rd pin safety ground is all that is 
> required.  I have a dedicated service from the breaker panel for the
> station.   I do have each piece of equipment bonded to the station power
> supply ground terminal with each piece of equipment having a dedicated
> jumper.   My bonding jumpers are made from #10 AWG automotive primary
> wire with a suitable ring terminal which is crimped and soldered on 
> each end.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/5/2019 6:22 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
>> I don't believe so, Bob.  While we have had a number of storms this year, 
>> there have been none since I received the KPA500.
>>
>> FWIW, I have a large knife switch in a box outside that I use to disconnect 
>> my balanced feed line if there are storms headed our way.  I tend to be 
>> paranoid about lightning, as we had a direct strike on our house some 7 
>> years ago ... and I didn't even have any antennas at that time.  We 
>> sustained extensive damage.  So I don't take any chances!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lyn
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX [mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net]
>> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 5:18 PM
>> To: l...@lnainc.com
>> Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 no output
>>
>> Lyn:
>>
>> Could this be the result of a nearby lightning strike?Seems likely
>> from your descriptions.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/2019 4:55 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote:
>>> Don -
>>>
>>> I have nearly the same exact problem with a KPA500 that is only 2 weeks 
>>> old.  It lets the signal pass thru on Standby, even showing proper signal 
>>> levels.  But in Operate mode, it's unresponsive and the SWR skyrockets to 
>>> 99:1.
>>>
>>> I ran tests suggested by Support, but no joy.  I will be shipping it back 
>>> to Elecraft tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Coincidentally, the "front end" of my 2 y/o IC7300 died at the same time, 
>>> yielding zero receive (everything else is fine).
>>>
>>> Lyn, WØLEN
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of donw4cbs
>>> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2019 4:35 PM
>>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 no output
>>>
>>> This is an update for the group re. my KPA500.Several weeks ago I reported 
>>> that all of a sudden my KPA500 dropped to 0 watts out when fed with my K3. 
>>> SWR was 1:1. When the amp was placed in bypass my K3 showed normal output. 
>>> When placed in operate SWR showed 99:1 and K3 dropped to 0 watts out.After 
>>> speaking with tech support I obtained a RSA and sent in back for 
>>> repair.Elecraft reported problems with the TR circuit and performed the 
>>> following:Updated the TR circuit and rebiased PA module to 0.8 AThey 

Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 on digital modes

[Bill Johnson]

I don't believe this is a class C amp.  We should discuss the relevance of 
different classes of operation of amps, and let's be honest... it will be most 
efficient at max output regardless of class  I believe.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Andy Durbin
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 2:57 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 on digital modes

"No one has mentioned amplifier efficiency at differing power levels."

I  have for the KPA500 and I have provided links to test data.   I would expect 
the KPA1500 to have similar characteristics but I'd like to see equivalent test 
data for it.

73,
Andy, k3wyc



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Output Variation

[Bill Johnson]

Thank you, Jim.  That is more helpful.  I use a remote tuner rather than using 
the built in for matching.  Thus my situation would not match yours.  I use a 
350 loop on 40 meters, thus I would not be helpful in your situation.  Using a 
tube amp is much different in matching versus the solid state amplifier as I 
remember when I last used a tube amp.  I believe your specifics will now lead 
to a better answer to your situation.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Jim McCook
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 2:58 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Output Variation

Antenna is 2 el. delta.  Uses 1/4 wave 70 ohm matching section. 
Described in ON4UN's Low Band DXing.  Used for 38 years with various tube 
amplifiers and no tuners.  All coax has been replaced as recently as 10 years 
ago.  SWR measurements always similar.  Power output with tube amps does not 
vary visibly on a Bird WM.  Same situation currently with a tube amp 
substituted.  Feedline from matching section about 50 ft.  I know how to match 
antennas.:-) I have seen the usual reactance measurement on each side of design 
frequency of 7.025.  The built in tuner is the one I was referencing.  The 
KPA-1500 comes with one.

Jim
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Output Variation

[Bill Johnson]

Seeing a 1.1:1.0 SWR at the amplifier doesn't necessarily mean your antenna is 
working as you expect.  Without getting into details, I am sure others will 
chime in, your antenna setup is highly suspicious given what you have briefly 
reported.  You didn't indicate antenna type, feedline, feedline distance, etc.  
You might find reading an antenna handbook very informative.  You can also 
YouTube or do on line searches to learn about antenna matching.  As a KPA1500 
owner, my antenna setup doesn't give me anything close to what you are 
experiencing.  Are you using the built in tuner?  Have you used an antenna 
analyzer to determine the antenna's characteristics on the frequencies you 
included in your questioning?

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Jim McCook
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 1:45 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 Power Output Variation

I'm using my K-3 with the KPA-1500 and have a problem with extreme changes in 
power output with a given drive level on 40m CW.  This happens to a lesser 
extent on other bands with different antennas.  My 40m antenna is tuned to 
7.025 where SWR is 1.1:1.  On 7.000 it is 1.4:1 and at 7.050 it's 1.3:1. Within 
that range of frequencies the output _without_ the tuner at a given drive level 
(30w) varies from 1300w to well over 1700w.  Using careful _tuner_ settings 
it's only slightly better.  I have to reduce drive to 24 or 25w to get below 
1500w, depending on the temperature of the amplifier (power output varies a lot 
with temperature changes).  Higher temp = lower output.

I have tried to compensate in the segments where output is excessive by using 
manual settings via the Utility.  This has helped slightly, but still isn't 
adequate.  I've resisted using ALC because of concern for generating 
distortion.  Having to ride the drive level from the K-3 is a PIA, especially 
during contests.

It seems to me a good answer would be to have higher input attenuation so drive 
requirement would be higher, maybe around 70+ watts.  I'd expect changing drive 
level by the same number of watts (5 or 6) would not affect output as much.  
I'd also assume the power output would not vary nearly so much with a given 
drive level.

Is this a possible solution?  I've also understood that most transmitters (even 
the K-3) have cleaner output near highest rated output.

Help!

Jim W6YA


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 for sale

[Bill Johnson]

Sell the wife! Mine was reluctant at first, but I told her, what didn't you 
get... I had radio equipment on my apartment kitchen table when we were dating, 
I had been in the hobby since early teens and if  you think I am giving up this 
hobby, not going to happen!  She has slowly relented over the last 46 years.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 3:55 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 for sale

Tough choice...

Eric KE6US

On 8/23/2019 1:33 PM, Brian Estes wrote:
> I am selling my K2 ser #7875 which has the SSB and KAF2 filter installed.
> It has been fully tested by Elecraft and the test report will be included.
> Reason for selling is wife will not allow any antennas. Price is 
> 750.00 including shipping to any US address.
> Brian
> KM4BPE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Steppir interfacing

[Bill Johnson]

Does SteppIR support your outdated OS?  Talk to them to determine if there's an 
OS issue?

Bill
920-421-1172


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Ray Albers 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:47:10 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Steppir interfacing

So a couple of days ago I posted tale of woe, trying to get my newly
acquired K3 to work with MixW - well, thanks to a few off line e-mails and
some stumbling around, I got that working. Ditto, got N1MM+ working great.

Next - how to get the K3 to play with my SteppIR vertical antenna
controller. Worked fine with my ICOM 746PRO, where I had both MixW and
SteppIR autotracking working fine with the radio.

So:  My computer is a Windows XP thing that I bought specifically because
it has an actual RS232 (9 pin) serial interface, so no need to struggle
with a serial to USB adapter.  I made up a Y cable to interconnect K3,
SteppIR controller and computer. Lots of Googling told me that the
connections to SteppIR controller should be only DTR and Gnd, so I made
sure that was how it was wired. Other posts point out that the CONFIG
AutoInf should be set to Auto1 (one post said it should be set to Norm, so
I tried it both ways). I even tried setting K3, SteppIR and computer to a
slower data rate (9600) in case the 38k rate was too fast. No joy. Did the
obvious newbie stuff like turning things on and off, plugging and
unplugging cables - still NG.

As I said, my logging program and N1MM are working just fine (one at a
time, of course), and I could live without having the SteppIR do
autotracking as I change bands/frequencies, but dagnabbit!!! it's the
principle of the thing!  I ought to be able to have everything working.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

73
Ray K2HYD
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Re: [Elecraft] AX1 Loaded Whip Antenna - Elevation and

[Bill Johnson]

Let me add to this post  Elecraft quality, products and engineering are 
fabulous.  Yes, I have been drinking the cool-aid for a decade.  Love the 
entire deal.  Tired of much of the other manufacturers over the years. Have had 
issues only resolved by selling.  YMMV.  Mine doesn't.

Now for Eric and Wayne to keep providing us new products!

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

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Behalf Of Bill Johnson
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 6:07 PM
To: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft ; Bert ; 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AX1 Loaded Whip Antenna - Elevation and

:-)  Buy US.  Buy Elecraft.  Plain and simple.

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

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Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 4:42 PM
To: Bert ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AX1 Loaded Whip Antenna - Elevation and

At the factory in California.

Eric
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On 8/8/2019 1:53 PM, Bert wrote:
> Where is the original Elecraft AX1 antenna made?
>
> Bert VE3NR

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Re: [Elecraft] AX1 Loaded Whip Antenna - Elevation and

[Bill Johnson]

:-)  Buy US.  Buy Elecraft.  Plain and simple.

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 4:42 PM
To: Bert ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AX1 Loaded Whip Antenna - Elevation and

At the factory in California.

Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 8/8/2019 1:53 PM, Bert wrote:
> Where is the original Elecraft AX1 antenna made?
>
> Bert VE3NR

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Re: [Elecraft] AX1 Loaded Whip Antenna - Elevation and Counterpoise?

[Bill Johnson]

Me, Too!

73,
Bill
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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of J Chester
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 1:39 AM
To: David Thompson 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; MaverickNH 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AX1 Loaded Whip Antenna - Elevation and Counterpoise?

Yes, David,
Probably early September
Joe

> On 6 Aug 2019, at 00:03, David Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Joe…
> 
> Will you have reprints available? I would like to see a copy of the article.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> David Thompson, AG7TX
> Jack of All Trades
> Master of None
> dbthomp...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2019, at 02:21, J Chester  wrote:
>> 
>> Bret,
>> 
>> I’ve just submitted a review of the AX1 to Practical Wireless magazine, 
>> which should appear be in the October issue, published end of September.
>> 
>> I found it worked well on the tripod. The key to getting the most out 
>> of it is to let the counterpoise wire fall to the ground about 3 ft 
>> or so from the radiator. As a very short base loaded antenna, I don’t 
>> think an extra foot or so of height will make a lot of difference. 
>> Your extra counterpoise wires is probably the best thing to do. More 
>> details in the article
>> 
>> 73 de Joe MW1MWD
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4 Aug 2019, at 18:20, MaverickNH  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've got my little 20m AX1 and 3 tuned counterpoise wires on a 4ft 
>>> tripod with wires extending to plastic chairs 3ft off the ground 
>>> too. If I got that whip up to 2m above ground with sloping wires, would I 
>>> gain much?
>>> 
>>> Bret/N4SRN
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K Pod Intermittently Errors

[Bill Johnson]

The KPOD is subject to spills etc. Just like a keyboard. Spills onto the pad 
can create issues.  Amazing no one has mentioned this potential cause.

Bill
920-421-1172


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of hawley, charles j jr 
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 9:15:41 AM
To: Richard Katsch ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K Pod Intermittently Errors

Using the K3s utility, the macros fire off 100% reliably so it's the pod switch 
buttons I guess. Double triggering, not triggering, sending the wrong buttons 
macro. It's getting worse. Looks like the hardware is not up to the task.
I wonder if Elecraft has improved the quality of performance on this item. I 
have had two bad ones so far and this one is probably out of warranty. I guess 
it's worth sending it in for repair?


Chuck Hawley
 c-haw...@illinois.edu

 Amateur Radio, KE9UW
 aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles


From: hawley, charles j jr 
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 8:26 AM
To: Richard Katsch ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K Pod Intermittently Errors

Mine is also on internal power. The interesting thing is that it is so 
intermittent. Probably messes up about 2% of the time.

Chuck Hawley
 c-haw...@illinois.edu

 Amateur Radio, KE9UW
 aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Richard Katsch 
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:44 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K Pod Intermittently Errors

I wonder how the K Pod is powered. Is it possible that an external supply
might be causing problems?
My new K Pod works fine on K3 s/n 0063 from internal power.

Richard Katsch
Vk2eik
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Re: [Elecraft] Windows Update and the K3 USB Audio

[Bill Johnson]

Totally agreed.  Issues with Win 10 are, in my IT experience, usually user 
created problems.  Yes port assignments can change, even by replugging a usb 
port.  To me this is of little bother, unless I was removing, then would need 
remote access to correct which isn't that difficult.

Bill
920-421-1172


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Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 4:15:01 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Windows Update and the K3 USB Audio

Re:-

If your radio computers must be connected to the internet, as mine are for DX 
clusters, Club Log, firmware updates, etc., etc., then this may not be a good 
idea, since older systems are targets for malware. When MS stops supplying 
security patches, the situation will become even worse.

Victor 4X6GP



ALL systems are targets for malware, and crypto currency mining, be
aware of that.

As for security, well, Windows 7 is OK "Now", but after Feb' next year,
as has happened within days of Win2k and XP being cast adrift, some
"new" (previously known to hackers, but unreported to MS) vulnerability
will be leveraged against Win7.   Win 10 (& perhaps 8.x) will be
patched, but 7, ?

Depends on what % of the web is still populated by W7 I guess, MS have
pushed out one or two updates to XP long after they otherwise cast it,
purely due to the severity of the issue, and the damage even a small %
of such population could cause.   The recent RDP issue I think being one
of them.

So long as your border gateway device is secure, and correctly
configured (UPnP disabled) updated and so on, you could survive running
Windows 9x, so long as you never "went anywhere bad" on the 'net, and
that's the problem.

You have in practice, little control where your browser goes.  OK, you
my point it at an otherwise trustworthy site (QRZ, QSL, clublog and so
on.)  But they have adverts on there that are served up by external sites.

Worse, many are animated to catch your eye, and also respond to the
mouse cursor moving across them.  ANYTHING that moves on screen is
running code, and THAT IS where the issue is.  That code can do anything
it wants, as well as what you see it doing.  Someone will probably know
you moved (even unconsciously) your mouse pointer over their add.

Some third party tools ("Ublock Origin" etc) can block many, but not all
of such things.  But many genuine sites that rely on the ad's to provide
revenue to cover running costs, may then block your access to the site
you want.

~ ~ ~

Re your border gateway devices...   Be prepared for some firmware
updates in the near future.  One of the popular embedded OS's used
"VxWorks" has been found to have (at least) 11 critical vulnerabilities,
and this stuff runs in billions of devices world wide, designed to be
interconnected via the web too.

See:- https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-725-notes.pdf  Then scroll down to page
9 or 10 (depending on your reader)

Note too:  New problems for exposed NAS devices, that many people are
unknowingly showing to the world!

73.

Dave G0WBX.

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 fan won't shut off

[Bill Johnson]

Try reloading your saved firmware. Could be an internal error which can happen. 
 Reloading firmware, preferably one you have saved will correct the error.

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of jerry
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 1:23 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 fan won't shut off

After yesterdays contest, I noticed this morning that the KPA500 fan was still 
running at a high speed even though the amp had been turned off all night by 
using the front "on" button.  The only way the fan stops running is if I turn 
the amp on with the front switch or if I shut the amp off by using the rear 
on/off switch. Menu setting for Fan is set to normal. Any ideas?

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Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receiver Tricks

[Bill Johnson]

You are correct, I didn't acknowledge peak - null situations. I generally 
thought this was also done using antennas,  which was perhaps your point which 
I had no interest.

Bill
920-421-1172


From: David Gilbert 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 8:36:44 PM
To: Bill Johnson; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receiver Tricks



Not sure what you are describing.  If you mean two antennas feeding two 
receivers at RF for diversity reception, yes ...  that works well but is not 
the same thing at all.  Your brain is doing some spatial processing, but it 
doesn't peak or null.  It also, as is apparent from the antennas you cite, 
compensates for polarization changes that would otherwise cause fading ... but 
it isn't peak/null.

If instead you are talking about being able to adjust phase and adding or 
subtracting the result, that can be done at RF but it definitely requires 
additional hardware.  You can't get there with just the K3 or K4 as is.

And none of what you describe would give you a numerical azimuth (or elevation) 
indication as the original post described.

Dave   AB7E


On 6/25/2019 6:19 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
Dave, the two receivers fed from two antennas give you what you are looking for 
at rf level.  It works super well.  On upper bands I have used SteppIR short 
vert with dipole.   My experience has been excellent vs single antenna.

Bill
920-421-1172


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> 
<mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on 
behalf of David Gilbert 
<mailto:xda...@cis-broadband.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 7:07:55 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receiver Tricks


Over the past few years I have twice requested Elecraft include
something like that as a software modification, but nobody (either at
Elecraft or here on the list) seems interested in the least. Since phase
is preserved during down conversion in a superhet circuit the software
crunching could even be done at audio ... it isn't required to be done
at RF.  It doesn't require the K4 either ... the K3 and K3s with the new
synths also make it feasible.

In addition to simply determining signal direction, the software would
potentially be able to equalize volume from the two receivers (generally
required since typically two different antennas would be used) and then
add or subtract the two signals to peak a desired signal or null an
unwanted one.  The equalization could be done in software while the
phase shifting would be manual and require a repurposing of a knob.  DX
Engineering sells a stand alone unit for over $700 that performs these
same functions at RF, while a software mod could do the same for free
(to us ... obviously it would take a commitment of coding resources from
Elecraft).

Elecraft has already said that they would at some indeterminate time in
the future consider sanctioning well-chosen and trusted third party
software developers for ancillary applications for the K4, but I'd like
to see this capability for my K3 as well.

As an aside, it would theoretically be possible to investigate arrival
angles using two horizontally polarized antennas placed one above the
other a known distance apart.  At the least it might even allow a user
to discriminate between two interfering signals from the same azimuth
but arriving at different vertical angles.

73,
Dave   AB7E


On 6/25/2019 8:14 AM, Dick Dickinson wrote:
> A late model SDR Receiver (only) is said to have a soon to be released
> software update.  I've seen a demonstration whereby using 2 antennas and a
> computer device, the unit will be able (to some degree?) determine signal
> direction.
>
>
>
> Does Elecraft have plans to develop K4D software with such capabilities or
> sanction 3rd party development of such?  Will there be other software /
> firmware development to come with the K4D beyond that of a dual receiver
> K3/s?
>
>
>
> Lastly, beyond control and perhaps IF output, will the K4 receiver(s) be
> able to interface with external 'computers?'  (No, I'm not sure what I mean
> by that!)
>
>
>
>
>
> Kindly,
>
> Dick - KA5KKT
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receiver Tricks

[Bill Johnson]

Dave, the two receivers fed from two antennas give you what you are looking for 
at rf level.  It works super well.  On upper bands I have used SteppIR short 
vert with dipole.   My experience has been excellent vs single antenna.

Bill
920-421-1172


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of David Gilbert 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 7:07:55 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dual Receiver Tricks


Over the past few years I have twice requested Elecraft include
something like that as a software modification, but nobody (either at
Elecraft or here on the list) seems interested in the least. Since phase
is preserved during down conversion in a superhet circuit the software
crunching could even be done at audio ... it isn't required to be done
at RF.  It doesn't require the K4 either ... the K3 and K3s with the new
synths also make it feasible.

In addition to simply determining signal direction, the software would
potentially be able to equalize volume from the two receivers (generally
required since typically two different antennas would be used) and then
add or subtract the two signals to peak a desired signal or null an
unwanted one.  The equalization could be done in software while the
phase shifting would be manual and require a repurposing of a knob.  DX
Engineering sells a stand alone unit for over $700 that performs these
same functions at RF, while a software mod could do the same for free
(to us ... obviously it would take a commitment of coding resources from
Elecraft).

Elecraft has already said that they would at some indeterminate time in
the future consider sanctioning well-chosen and trusted third party
software developers for ancillary applications for the K4, but I'd like
to see this capability for my K3 as well.

As an aside, it would theoretically be possible to investigate arrival
angles using two horizontally polarized antennas placed one above the
other a known distance apart.  At the least it might even allow a user
to discriminate between two interfering signals from the same azimuth
but arriving at different vertical angles.

73,
Dave   AB7E


On 6/25/2019 8:14 AM, Dick Dickinson wrote:
> A late model SDR Receiver (only) is said to have a soon to be released
> software update.  I've seen a demonstration whereby using 2 antennas and a
> computer device, the unit will be able (to some degree?) determine signal
> direction.
>
>
>
> Does Elecraft have plans to develop K4D software with such capabilities or
> sanction 3rd party development of such?  Will there be other software /
> firmware development to come with the K4D beyond that of a dual receiver
> K3/s?
>
>
>
> Lastly, beyond control and perhaps IF output, will the K4 receiver(s) be
> able to interface with external 'computers?'  (No, I'm not sure what I mean
> by that!)
>
>
>
>
>
> Kindly,
>
> Dick - KA5KKT
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s USB failure?

[Bill Johnson]

Peter, that is a connection/connector failure!

73,
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K9YEQ

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-Original Message-
From: Peter Dougherty  
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 6:35 PM
To: 'Jack Brindle' 
Cc: 'Bill Johnson' ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3s USB failure?

Hmm. This is interesting. I never disconnected the P3, and it sat on my main 
operating desk all weekend. It was just the K3s that went outside (sunny/dry 
and less than 10 feet from my shack desk). 

I disconnected all the cables from the back of the K3s inside, brought it out, 
connected it to my spare PSU, plugged it into the computer and everything came 
up perfectly and I was ready to go in under a minute.

This afternoon I brought it in, reconnected all the cables and that's when I 
noticed the problem. I didn't touch either of the DE9 plugs on the P3, and 
they're tightened down securely on that panadapter end. But something is 
definitely amiss from the other end; either the RJ-45 plug on that cable, or 
the connector on the radio itself. Again, if I wiggle the connector, power the 
radio down, and restart Commander or N1MM (or the K3 Util), it MAY work. Or not.

 - pjd

-Original Message-
From: Jack Brindle  
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 6:54 PM
To: Peter Dougherty 
Cc: Bill Johnson ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s USB failure?

Make sure that BOTH DE9 connectors are firmly plugged onto the P3. I ran not 
this situation myself over the weekend. The serial data needs to flow through 
the P3 and back to the K3S where it is then used. If one of the DE9s is not 
properly connected you won’t have a full path and the USB will not work 
properly.

In my case I forgot to connect the top DE9 onto the P3 and things didn’t;t 
work. As soon as the connector was plugged in, the software (N1MM+) became very 
happy.

73!
Jack, W6FB



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Re: [Elecraft] K3s USB failure?

[Bill Johnson]

Did you disconnect USB devices, reboot the PC and then reconnect.  Also look at 
device manager to make sure there are no error icons.  If there are remove, 
then refresh.

73,
Bill
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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Peter Dougherty
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 2:33 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s USB failure?
Importance: High

Hi guys,
I hope this is a case of pilot error here, but I think my K3s might have 
suffered damage today and I need help in getting this back alive.

After I moved the radio out to the deck for Field Day everything worked fine. 
Moved it back inside and I have no USB connectivity to any software app that 
normally connects to. When I plug the USB-B cable into the USB port on the back 
of the K3s I hear the Windows sound (twice) indicating that it's connecting, 
the port shows up as it's supposed to in the device manager
(COM-5 on the desktop, COM-3 on the laptop), but neither N1MM+, DX Lab Suite 
Commander, or the K3 Utility can find the radio. I'm at a loss to understand 
what could have happened here, but I'm completely dead in the water now. In the 
menu, RS232 is set up USB.

The sound card portion of the USB port is fine (I can get audio from the K3s 
into the computer, and generated .wav files play from the computer over the 
air. I just have no CAT control, either way.

 




Regards,
Peter Dougherty

 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Display Flashing

[Bill Johnson]

Shut all off, check and reconnect all connections and restart.  If issue 
continues reload firmware backup to P3.

Bill
920-421-1172


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of KD0Q 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 9:01:08 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Display Flashing

Just setting up for field day and my P3 has developed a problem. About  5
seconds after startup the spectrum box clears and redraws about once a
second. While it is blank the text "5 ms / div" appears in the lower left
corner outside of the waterfall box.

Any ideas?

Glenn KD0Q
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Re: [Elecraft] Help with IF Noise, DSP Noise, NR settings

[Bill Johnson]

Using the AGC control is also a big factor when dealing with noise with the 
K3/S.  I find the controls help me with communications as the noise sources 
where I live are many.  Understanding the use of the controls as written by Don 
W3FPR, is very helpful.  He has a website that has much educational and 
instructional ways to use the controls effectively.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

https://wrj-tech.com/

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2019 9:04 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Help with IF Noise, DSP Noise, NR settings

When it comes to eliminating extraneous noise, I have always found the
K3 to be very lacking of any super powers.

Mostly, the results were about the same as any other rig out there. Kind of OK 
for ignition noise - using the NB. Of course the NB can screw with the 
bandwidth of the receiver and allow nearby signals to interfere when they would 
normally not. Nothing new about this - just like all the others. So far as the 
NR - all the various (and there are many) settings result in lowered audio 
output and various levels of "under water" 
effects. Effectiveness against lightning static is nonexistent.

I would be remiss if I did not mention that my IC-7300's NR is very effective 
against junk when needed and does not introduce "under water" 
effects. It is also quite effective against lightning static - not 100%, 
however, I would estimate 80 to 90%. As a result, the 7300 is the go-to rig for 
noisy weather conditions. I have had no occasion to try the NB, so cannot 
report on same.

As always, the ATT and/or RF GAIN are your friends.






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Re: [Elecraft] K4: superhet vs. direct sampling

[Bill Johnson]

Wayne, all these options and modernizations, even though I love my K3S and 
really don't need to upgrade, I will be "forced" to break down and buy one.

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 9:19 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] K4: superhet vs. direct sampling

The superhet module buys a lot of BDR improvement. But also -- a subtlety I've 
failed to mention so far -- the superhet module is intended to somewhat improve 
2 kHz IMDDR3 *and* make this figure more repeatable. 

Q: Say what?

A: As Rob Sherwood noted many times before finally immortalizing this point in 
his must-read footnotes, A-to-D converters sharing the same part number are not 
all created equal. The long-time previous occupant of his Top Spot benefitted 
from a never-corroborated monotonicity in its ADC's LSBs. An act of god. The 
product of a very good day at the silicon foundry when, serendipitously, all 
the bunny suits were defect-free, and no one was exhaling molecules of grain 
alcohol or other substances from the night before.

That said, most ops can get by without the extra BDR and IMDDR3, because 
they're not situated in the RF equivalent of the Gulf Stream. Hence the 
different K4 models. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Jun 4, 2019, at 5:10 PM, Lyle Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> The "20 dB lower than a K3" figure is an estimate for 100 kHz Blocking 
> Dynamic Range rather than the 2 kHz Narrow Spaced Dynamic Range.
> 
> The K3 is listed at 140 to 150 dB (depending on model, synthesizer, etc) on 
> Sherwood's Receiver Test Data page.  The K4 series without the "HD" option 
> are estimated to be in the 120 to 130 dB range, typical of other direct 
> sampling SDR products (Flex, Apache, Icom, ...).
> 
> 73,
> 
> Lyle KK7P
> 
> On 6/4/19 4:00 PM, mark roz via Elecraft wrote:
>> Before putting my money up front for the first run of K4D I need to 
>> know what is the dynamic range of the K4D RX at 2kHz spacing. K3 is 105 dB 
>> and K4D? If it is 20dB lower than K3 than it would be 85dB-correct?



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Re: [Elecraft] Trees eating wire

[Bill Johnson]

Jim,  I have done that.  I am going to use my bow one more time and if that has 
any glitches will try the Sherrill launcher.  Not cheap but is commercial and 
well liked.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

https://wrj-tech.com/

-Original Message-
From: Jim Miller  
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 4:05 PM
To: Bill Johnson 
Cc: Tom Boucher ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Trees eating wire

Always let the weight drop and remove it at ground level before retrieving the 
line. Highly recommend slick line,tennis ball, and pneumatic launcher with 60 
lb spiderwire on an open faced spinning real. 

Jim ab3cv 

On May 26, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Bill Johnson  wrote:

I have had my  best success with using a bow and arrow.  I drill into the nock 
and have either a fishing pole and line attached or mount the real on the bow.  
Open real works best as it creates the least amount of drag, resistance to the 
arrow.  Do check the flight path carefully before letting the arrow loose. 

I have used a pneumatic plumbing constructed cannon, wrist rocket and other 
methods.  Those stinking weights and round objects, when they get swinging, 
wrap around the smallest objects in the trees and are a pain.  The trees at my 
place are thick, a forest. However, the arrow goes up and comes straight down.  

The issue with any of these methods is the projection path including wind 
drift.  Once I lob an arrow and it lands, I disconnect the fishing line from 
the arrow and then attach another fishing line with a fishing pole, then 
retrieve the line from the initial fishing reel.  It may seem a bit more work, 
but less danger, and nothing gets lost.  Then one can pull from the launching 
site whatever wire was to be strung.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

https://wrj-tech.com/

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Tom Boucher
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 1:35 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Trees eating wire

Wayne's problem with a tree eating his wire reminds me of an incident some 
years ago when I was attempting to get an antenna halyard over a tall oak tree. 
I used some braided nylon cord with a probable breaking strain of several 
hundred pounds, which was attached to a drilled golf ball.

My catapult put the ball and cord over a branch somewhat lower than intended so 
I attempted to pull it back. Of course the inevitable happened and the ball 
wound itself around the branch. No matter how hard I pulled the cord it 
wouldn't come. So I wound the cord around a piece of wood and with my heels dug 
into the ground, gave it my full body weight plus some.

Finally it released itself and the golf ball shot towards me hitting me in the 
right foot and breaking several bones. I had literally shot myself in the foot! 
I'm just thankful it wasn't 2 or 3 feet up otherwise my voice would now be an 
octave or so higher.

Heard the guys sniggering behind the curtain in the hospital A department 
after I told them I had shot myself with a golf ball. XYL not at all impressed 
at having to drive me to the salt mine for 6 weeks.

Lead weights used by anglers could be even more lethal.

Needless to say I don't use that method any more and now use a compressed air 
device with weighted tennis balls which works a treat!

73,
Tom G3OLB
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Re: [Elecraft] Trees eating wire

[Bill Johnson]

I have had my  best success with using a bow and arrow.  I drill into the nock 
and have either a fishing pole and line attached or mount the real on the bow.  
Open real works best as it creates the least amount of drag, resistance to the 
arrow.  Do check the flight path carefully before letting the arrow loose. 

 I have used a pneumatic plumbing constructed cannon, wrist rocket and other 
methods.  Those stinking weights and round objects, when they get swinging, 
wrap around the smallest objects in the trees and are a pain.  The trees at my 
place are thick, a forest. However, the arrow goes up and comes straight down.  

The issue with any of these methods is the projection path including wind 
drift.  Once I lob an arrow and it lands, I disconnect the fishing line from 
the arrow and then attach another fishing line with a fishing pole, then 
retrieve the line from the initial fishing reel.  It may seem a bit more work, 
but less danger, and nothing gets lost.  Then one can pull from the launching 
site whatever wire was to be strung.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

https://wrj-tech.com/

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Tom Boucher
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 1:35 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Trees eating wire

Wayne's problem with a tree eating his wire reminds me of an incident some 
years ago when I was attempting to get an antenna halyard over a tall oak tree. 
I used some braided nylon cord with a probable breaking strain of several 
hundred pounds, which was attached to a drilled golf ball.

My catapult put the ball and cord over a branch somewhat lower than intended so 
I attempted to pull it back. Of course the inevitable happened and the ball 
wound itself around the branch. No matter how hard I pulled the cord it 
wouldn't come. So I wound the cord around a piece of wood and with my heels dug 
into the ground, gave it my full body weight plus some.

Finally it released itself and the golf ball shot towards me hitting me in the 
right foot and breaking several bones. I had literally shot myself in the foot! 
I'm just thankful it wasn't 2 or 3 feet up otherwise my voice would now be an 
octave or so higher.

Heard the guys sniggering behind the curtain in the hospital A department 
after I told them I had shot myself with a golf ball. XYL not at all impressed 
at having to drive me to the salt mine for 6 weeks.

Lead weights used by anglers could be even more lethal.

Needless to say I don't use that method any more and now use a compressed air 
device with weighted tennis balls which works a treat!

73,
Tom G3OLB
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Re: [Elecraft] To improve customer service (for the Classic gear)

[Bill Johnson]

Dave, thank you for stepping up.  Not an easy task. Thank God, you are in 
transition for Don.  Tough shoes, but you have steady feet.

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Dave Van Wallaghen
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 6:47 PM
To: donw...@embarqmail.com; Doug Hensley ; Don Schroder 

Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] To improve customer service (for the Classic gear)

Don,

I profusely apologize for the delay and lack of communication. As Don, W3FPR 
pointed out, Don was and I am a part time employee. For a whole host of 
reasons, that I won't go into at this time, the transition has been somewhat 
slow but I am making progress.

The amount of backlog has been overwhelming to an extent. But with Don's help 
we have managed to whittle much of it down.

I am not making excuses for the lack of communication and will improve my 
response as I work through this transition. Poor Don is supposed to be retired 
and still provides excellent support in my absence or heavy workload.

As he noted, my wife and I are on vacation well off of the grid. I do have some 
wifi here (sitting at the Tiki bar as I write this) but I am pretty much off 
the grid until next week.

I do totally love the Elecraft customer service paradigm and will continue to 
strive for that plateau. But it will take me a little time as I still work a 
fulltime profession as well as this part time venture plus family blah blah 
blah.

If I remember right, your rig was number 2 or 3 on my priority list and I will 
get right on it as soon as I return. I appreciate your patience in the interim 
and will be in touch soon.


73,
Dave, W8FGU
On May 23, 2019 13:03:13 Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Doug,
>
> Thanks for the nice words about my service.  When I was doing repairs 
> for the classic gear, I did not have a staff (like they do in
> Watsonville) to send emails when the rig arrives, etc.  I would email 
> customers when I started work on it, ask any questions about what the 
> customer wanted when the RSA form was incomplete. and let the customer 
> know if there were significant delays.
> Then when I finish with it, I would send the report to the office and 
> the sales staff would contact the customer about payment.
> It is tough to keep up with emails, repairs and everything else when 
> there is a backlog of repairs.  So working with a staff of one (me) it 
> is difficult to keep up with customer communications in addition to 
> providing prompt repair service.
>
> I was not a contract person, but a part time employee of Elecraft.
>
> I am certain Dave WFGU (who took over for me, and is also a part-time
> employee) is having similar problems.  In additions, he also works for 
> his Fire Department which has him at the station full time for 
> stretches between 2 and 4 days at a time, and he may not know that his 
> XYL got a repair package in during those days.  I know he is currently 
> on vacation and away from home - so any repair parcels are being held 
> for him at the post office or UPS.
>
> Sorry that we cannot provide the same level of communications that are 
> available out of Watsonville, but we do the best we can.  I had an 
> advantage over Dave because I was not working a full time job when I 
> was doing that legacy repair work.
>
> Some patience and understanding is required, and your tracking numbers 
> can be relied on - I never found them to be wrong.
>
> Do not send an advance check with your RSA repair.  If a check is 
> discovered, it must be sent to Watsonville, and will not be cashed 
> until the repair is concluded.
>
> Also, do not send your classic gear to Watsonville, send it as 
> indicated in the RSA instructions.  If you do send it to Watsonville, 
> expect an extra week delay because it must then be shipped to Michigan.
> The newer (non-thru-hole gear) IS serviced at Watsonville, but NOT the 
> classic gear.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 5/23/2019 1:56 PM, Doug Hensley wrote:
>> Don, I think that is because the early stuff is farmed out to 
>> contract people who may not have an email routine going yet.  The K1 
>> & K2's were usually handled by Don Wilhelm who just retired.  You 
>> might contact Elecraft support and ask them who they sent the rig to, when, 
>> where, etc.
>>
>> Don had done all my K1 & K2 work and was just marvelous.  Hopefully 
>> Elecraft keep that kind of talent at hand.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Doug W5JV
>>
>>>
>>
>> Message: 20
>> Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 17:17:57 +
>> From: Don Schroder 
>> To: Elecraft Reflector 
>> Subject: [Elecraft] To improve customer service
>> Message-ID:
>>  
>> > utlook.com>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> A good morning to all!
>>
>> I am sitting in my recliner, drinking a cup of java, and doing what I 
>> seem to do best, thinking,
>>
>> I?m thinking; when I sent my computer into the Company for repairs 

Re: [Elecraft] To improve customer service (for the Classic gear)

[Bill Johnson]

Don, there you go again... perfect explanation from a super tech!

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 2:03 PM
To: Doug Hensley ; Don Schroder 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] To improve customer service (for the Classic gear)

Doug,

Thanks for the nice words about my service.  When I was doing repairs for the 
classic gear, I did not have a staff (like they do in
Watsonville) to send emails when the rig arrives, etc.  I would email customers 
when I started work on it, ask any questions about what the customer wanted 
when the RSA form was incomplete. and let the customer know if there were 
significant delays.
Then when I finish with it, I would send the report to the office and the sales 
staff would contact the customer about payment.
It is tough to keep up with emails, repairs and everything else when there is a 
backlog of repairs.  So working with a staff of one (me) it is difficult to 
keep up with customer communications in addition to providing prompt repair 
service.

I was not a contract person, but a part time employee of Elecraft.

I am certain Dave WFGU (who took over for me, and is also a part-time
employee) is having similar problems.  In additions, he also works for his Fire 
Department which has him at the station full time for stretches between 2 and 4 
days at a time, and he may not know that his XYL got a repair package in during 
those days.  I know he is currently on vacation and away from home - so any 
repair parcels are being held for him at the post office or UPS.

Sorry that we cannot provide the same level of communications that are 
available out of Watsonville, but we do the best we can.  I had an advantage 
over Dave because I was not working a full time job when I was doing that 
legacy repair work.

Some patience and understanding is required, and your tracking numbers can be 
relied on - I never found them to be wrong.

Do not send an advance check with your RSA repair.  If a check is discovered, 
it must be sent to Watsonville, and will not be cashed until the repair is 
concluded.

Also, do not send your classic gear to Watsonville, send it as indicated in the 
RSA instructions.  If you do send it to Watsonville, expect an extra week delay 
because it must then be shipped to Michigan.
The newer (non-thru-hole gear) IS serviced at Watsonville, but NOT the classic 
gear.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2019 1:56 PM, Doug Hensley wrote:
> Don, I think that is because the early stuff is farmed out to contract people 
> who may not have an email routine going yet.  The K1 & K2's were usually 
> handled by Don Wilhelm who just retired.  You might contact Elecraft support 
> and ask them who they sent the rig to, when, where, etc.
> 
> Don had done all my K1 & K2 work and was just marvelous.  Hopefully Elecraft 
> keep that kind of talent at hand.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Doug W5JV
> 
>>
> 
> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 17:17:57 +
> From: Don Schroder 
> To: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: [Elecraft] To improve customer service
> Message-ID:
>  
>  tlook.com>
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> A good morning to all!
> 
> I am sitting in my recliner, drinking a cup of java, and doing what I 
> seem to do best, thinking,
> 
> I?m thinking; when I sent my computer into the Company for repairs (under 
> warranty), the Company did something I had never experienced before. They 
> ?GAVE ME A WEEKLY UPDATE? every Friday by email or phone call, to tell me the 
> status of my computer! Every week, I knew what was happening to my computer, 
> (1) had they received it? (2) Were they working on it? (3) What have they 
> found? (4 ) What problems have they encountered?  (5) Is it fixed? (6) Have 
> they sent it back to me?
> 
> On April 8th, I sent my K2 transceiver kit to Elecraft, to look at an issue I 
> was having.
> 
> On April 10th, (2 days later) Elecraft received my K2. I know this NOT 
> because I was notified, but because I researched the tracking number.
> 
> On May 7th, (29 days later), Elecraft cashed my deposit check that was sent 
> with the K2. I know this NOT because I was notified, but because I researched 
> my banking statements.
> 
> On May 23rd, (today, 45 days later) I am beginning to think I may never see 
> my K2 again!
> 
> I?m thinking; wouldn?t it be nice if all Companies kept their customers 
> ?informed? of a products status when sent in for repairs, like the computer 
> Company did?
> 
> I?m thinking; this would be a GREAT improvement to customer service!
> 
> Don, KE0PVQ
> Let the lava flow begin
> 
> Sent from Mail for 
> Windows 10
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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