Re: [Elecraft] SSB net cancelled for Sunday, March 30, 2014

2014-03-30 Thread jimk8mr
And instead, use your Elecraft radio to work some guys in the contest. 
A lot of them will be using Elecraft radios as well!


73  -  Jim  K8MR



-Original Message-
From: Phil Shepard ph...@riousa.com
To: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sat, Mar 29, 2014 11:34 pm
Subject: [Elecraft] SSB net cancelled for Sunday, March 30, 2014

The WPX Phone contest running this weekend will make operating our net 
challenging, so let’s take the week off.  If we had more big gun 
powerhouse stations, we might be able to stand up to the QRM. We have a 
few, but we also have a lot of QRP check-ins.  Have a great week and 
we’ll see you next Sunday.


73,
Phil, NS7P



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[Elecraft] Transporting Lithium Batteries

2014-03-11 Thread jimk8mr
It is worth noting DOT regulations for transporting lithium ion 
batteries by air:


http://safetravel.dot.gov/whats_new_batteries.html

Basically Lithium Ion batteries not installed in equipment may not be 
carried in checked luggage. There are some limits on what and how many 
may be carried in carry on luggage, but those limits should not affect 
the batteries one would normally use with a KX3.



73  -  Jim  K8MR


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 doesn't like sand

2014-02-05 Thread jimk8mr
 This is why when I operated from the beach in Punta Cana as HI/K8MR in the 
2014 ARRL and CQ CW DX contests, I took care to tape over all unused 
connectors, the seam where the two halves hinge together, and the speaker (I 
was using ear buds). While I did not do so, it might also be good to put some 
clear tape over the LEDs that stick through the front panel.

I then placed the radio inside a large ZipLock bag, open only enough to let the 
cables pass through. I used the dial lock when possible, and either tuned 
through the bag, or cheated a bit and opened the bag to get at the controls.

I imagine salt would be even more destructive than sand.

73,

Jim?? K8MR

 



-Original Message-
From: Dominic Baines lt;dominic.bai...@ntlworld.comgt;
To: elecraft lt;elecraft@mailman.qth.netgt;
Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 2:04 pm
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 doesn't like sand

 
 
 
Was operating off Southwold on the beach Saturday and wind blown sand  
got into my KX3 #1082... only solution was qrt and disassemble and clean  
when got it home. 
 
http://m1kta-qrp.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/southwold-2014.html 
 
No lasting damage it would seem but took ages to get rid of all the sand  
grains. 
 
Warning be careful about wind blown sand especially as it will get in  
through all the openings. 
 
72 
 
Dom 
M1KTA 

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[Elecraft] KX3 - VOX Delay with CW in SSB mode

2014-01-13 Thread Jimk8mr
With the ARRL VHF contest coming up, I'm still waiting to hear if there has 
 been any progress in getting a delay in the PTT output, vs. full breakin 
only,  when using CW in SSB?
 
When driving a (non-Elecraft) transverter, one needs some delay in the  
circuit that keys the transverter. The delay time used in straight CW would be  
fine.
 
 
73   -   JimK8MR
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Re: [Elecraft] CW Pitch Resolution

2013-10-19 Thread Jimk8mr
It's pitch differentiation. 100 Hz away from 750Hz is a lot closer in  
pitch than is 100 Hz away from 400 Hz.
 
 
73  -  Jim   K8MR
 
 
In a message dated 10/19/2013 5:36:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
alor...@sbcglobal.net writes:

When I  was a kid 750 Hz was the most popular sidetone frequency. I have 
noticed a  steady decrease in the consensus spot frequency over these 40 
years. I don't  know why. Maybe it has to do with hearing loss. Too many 'The 
Who'  concerts.


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[Elecraft] [KX3] VOX Delay with CW in SSB

2013-10-02 Thread Jimk8mr
I posted a query a few weeks back but neglected to say for which  radio.
 
The KX3, FW 1.61, with CW in SSB seems to allow only full break-in  
operation. This is a problem when using a transverter or amplifier not  
designed 
for break in.
 
Am I missing something, or is this in need of an FW revision? I would  
think using the CW delay times when transmitting CW in SSB would make the  most 
sense. (If CW was set for zero delay, full break-in would still be  
available).
 
 
73  -  Jim   K8MR
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[Elecraft] KXPA100 Interfacing

2013-09-30 Thread Jimk8mr
Looking over the KXPA100 order information, I wonder, what is controlled  
via the RS232 jack (with the KXUSB cable), and what is controlled via the  
Ethernet jack/cable?
 
Are the two jacks on the mid-cord box in the KXPACBL essential to operation 
 of the KXPA100 with a KX3? Or are they for use with other transceivers?
 
Bottom line, is the KXPACBL essential to be able to use the KXPA100 with  
the KX3?
 
Also, is the KXPA100 manual(s) available on the website?
 
 
73   -   Jim  K8MR
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[Elecraft] VOX Delay with CW in SSB

2013-09-14 Thread Jimk8mr
It appears that in CW in SSB mode, the VOX delay is not in use, only full  
break in. 
 
Keying the microphone overrides the CW in SSB, which makes sense. 
 
Have I missed something? I want to use CW in SSB with VHF transverters,  
whose relays don't work so well with full break in.
 
 
73  -  Jim   K8MR
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[Elecraft] KX3 CW Key Options

2013-09-13 Thread Jimk8mr
I'd like to repeat a feature request:
 
The option of NONE for CW KEY2.
 
This would allow use of a mono plug to send external CW. A few days ago I  
went to drop my KX3 into the position I normally use with a rig that uses a 
mono  1/4 key plug. Even with an adaptor to 1/8, it wouldn't work because 
the shell  on the mono plug keyed the ring on the KX3 KEY2 input.
 
While at it, allowing independent selection of TIP=DOT on CQ KEY1  and 
HAND on CW KEY2  (and vice versa for lefties) would allow bug  operation, 
which I have seen requested by others.
 
 
Thanks  73  -  
 
Jim  K8MR
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 CW Key Options

2013-09-13 Thread Jimk8mr
There are many very functional radios out there that use a mono key jack.  
In my case, the IC-746.
 
Most keyers have their output as a mono RCA jack. The K1EL USB WinKey and  
the W9XT Unified Microsystems XT-4 are two such examples. A readily 
available  mono RCA to 1/8 cable is exactly what is needed for such, with no 
extra 
unused  dangling ends of a stereo cable. And a mono plug is easier to wire 
up - more  room without the second circuit to deal with.
 
The suggested firmware change would be pretty simple to implement. We  
aren't talking a major DSP redo.
 
I suspect many other firmware changes have been made to satisfy even  fewer 
people.
 
 
73  -  Jim  K8MR 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/13/2013 12:54:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
kengk...@gmail.com writes:

 

Hi Jim !
 
It's generally accepted convention today that virtually
all key plugs/jacks are three-circuit ... tip, ring and
sleeve ... in both 1/8 and 1/4 diameters.
 
IMHO, modifying software to satisfy the wants of a few
of us isn't warranted.  In your case, doing it right is just
a simple plug change and the key would still work in older 
radios.
 
73!
 
K0PP
 
 



On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 4:14 PM, _Jimk8mr@aol.com_ 
(mailto:jimk...@aol.com)  wrote:

I'd like to repeat a feature request:

The option of  NONE for CW KEY2.

This would allow use of a mono plug to send  external CW. A few days ago I
went to drop my KX3 into the position I  normally use with a rig that uses a
mono  1/4 key plug. Even with  an adaptor to 1/8, it wouldn't work because
the shell  on the mono  plug keyed the ring on the KX3 KEY2 input.

While at it, allowing  independent selection of TIP=DOT on CQ KEY1  and
HAND on CW KEY2  (and vice versa for lefties) would allow bug  operation,
which  I have seen requested by others.


Thanks  73  -

Jim  K8MR
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[Elecraft] KX3 Production Firmware Updates?

2013-09-03 Thread Jimk8mr
Having been spoiled by the ease of installing production firmware updates,  
I wonder if there might be a new production release for the  KX3, including 
CW in SSB, coming out prior to the September ARRL VHF  contest on September 
14-15? 
 
As far as I can imagine, VHF contests are the prime use for this  feature.
 
Otherwise, time to figure out the beta installation.
 
 
 
73  -  Jim   K8MR
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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

2013-08-05 Thread jimk8mr
 See page 10 and 11 of:


http://www.arrl.org/files/file/ContestResults/2013/2013-DXCW-Web1_1.pdf

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[Elecraft] Solar Power for KX3

2013-04-18 Thread jimk8mr
Rather than reinvent the wheel, does anybody have experience or suggestions for 
a small solar array sufficient to keep a KX3 with internal batteries going 
during daylight? I would assume 10 watts average over a reasonable TX duty 
cycle would be enough.? Something strong enough or flexible enough to withstand 
packing for air travel would be desirable.


73?? -? Jim?? K8MR

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Re: [Elecraft] A KX3 Curiosity Question about ACC2 and RXIQ

2013-03-18 Thread Jimk8mr

I would suspect the ACC and RXIQ jacks are much less used than the larger  
KEY and PHONES jacks.
 
Speaking of jacks, I'd like to repeat publicly a request I've made through  
Elecraft channels:
 
That the CW KEY1 and CW KEY2 menus have an option for NONE.
 
That way, a mono 3.5mm plug could be used to connect to an external key or  
keyer, by setting the Ring to NONE.
 
 
73   -  Jim  K8MR 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/18/2013 1:01:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
phys...@mac.com writes:

Yes, I  thought that might be a reason but you can still plug in the wrong  
plug.

73, phil, K7PEH

On Mar 17, 2013, at 9:29 PM,  wb4...@knology.net wrote:

 My guess would be that with different  size connectors, it is harder to 
plug the wrong thing into the wrong  place.  This makes it less likely that 
you will plug an ACC1 cable into  the ACC2 jack by mistake, and less likely 
that you would plug headphones into  the RXIQ jack, for example.
 73, Terry, WB4JFI
 
  
 -Original Message- From: Phil Hystad
 Sent: Monday,  March 18, 2013 12:19 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net List
  Subject: [Elecraft] A KX3 Curiosity Question about ACC2 and RXIQ
  
 On my KX3 the ACC2 and the RXIQ connectors are 2.5 mm rather than a  more 
common 3.5 mm.  So, does anyone know why these are 2.5 mm rather  than 3.5 
mm.  I understand that they are smaller but looking at the KX3  and how and 
where they are located I do not see that smaller is required for  the design.
 
 Is there a good engineering design reason behind  this decision?  I have 
no complaints but rather lots of  curiosity.
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
  

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[Elecraft] Fwd: KX3 Relay Control For Desktop Amplifiers

2013-03-12 Thread Jimk8mr
I blew the switching FET with about 50 ma of current (12 volts) from a  
DownEast Microwave transverter. Elecraft says it should have handled it, but  
anyway, FWIW.
 
The FET has been replaced, and an intermediate switching transistor  
installed in the switchbox for the several transverters. Now switching 1 or 2  
ma, 
hope that holds!
 
 
73  -  Jim   K8MR
 
 
  

 From: robertwschumac...@yahoo.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent:  3/12/2013 12:07:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: [Elecraft] KX3 Relay  Control For Desktop Amplifiers


Most common desktop amps have a relay circuit that requires  a transceiver 
to short 12 VDC at 100 ma to key the amplifier on.
In the KX3  specs, the maximum amp relay current is stated to be 100 ma. 
Has anyone keyed  a desktop amp directly with a KX3 or is it recommended to 
use an intermediate  external relay  circuit?

Thanks,

W9DBR

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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: KX3 Relay Control For Desktop Amplifiers

2013-03-12 Thread Jimk8mr
The DEM transverters also have the diode snubber.  
 
So things remain a mystery, hopefully never to repeat.
 
 
73   -   Jim   K8MR
 
 
In a message dated 3/12/2013 8:02:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
c-haw...@illinois.edu writes:

The  2N7002 has an internal diode for any inductive collapse.

Sent from my  iPad
Chuck, KE9UW 
(Jack for BMW motorcycles)

On Mar 12, 2013, at  6:58 PM, Rich Heineck ric...@frontier.com wrote:

  Jim,
 
 The FET shouldn't have had any problem with 50 mA.   It's a 2N7002 and is 
rated for 115 mA continuous and 800 mA pulsed, with 60V  max voltage when 
off.  One possibility is that the load being switched  was inductive (like a 
relay), and the FET's voltage rating was exceeded when  the relay was 
released due to inductive kickback.  The simplest solution  to snub the 
kickback 
spike is to put a reverse diode, like a 1N4002, across  the relay coil 
(cathode side to the relay's '+' supply).
 
 It's  also possible the FET was defective or damaged to begin with, which 
led to an  early failure.
 
 73,
 Rich  AC7MA
 
  
 On 03/12/2013 01:28 PM, jimk...@aol.com wrote:
 I blew the  switching FET with about 50 ma of current (12 volts) from a
  DownEast Microwave transverter. Elecraft says it should have handled 
it,  but
 anyway, FWIW.
  The FET has been replaced, and  an intermediate switching transistor
 installed in the switchbox  for the several transverters. Now switching 
1 or 2  ma,
 hope  that holds!
73  -  JimK8MR

  From:  robertwschumac...@yahoo.com
 To:  elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent:  3/12/2013 12:07:26 P.M.  Eastern Daylight Time
 Subj: [Elecraft] KX3 Relay  Control For  Desktop Amplifiers
 
 
 Most common desktop  amps have a relay circuit that requires  a 
transceiver
 to  short 12 VDC at 100 ma to key the amplifier on.
 In the KX3   specs, the maximum amp relay current is stated to be 100 ma.
 Has  anyone keyed  a desktop amp directly with a KX3 or is it 
recommended  to
 use an intermediate  external relay   circuit?
 
 Thanks,
 
  W9DBR
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: KX3 Relay Control For Desktop Amplifiers

2013-03-12 Thread Jimk8mr
In my case the FET failed somewhat gradually. I made several QSOs by  
momentarily turning off the transverter power. When I turned it back on, it 
came  
up in receive mode. Then I'd transmit, power cycle the transverter to 
return  to receive, and repeat.
 
After several such QSOs power cycling would not get the relay to drop  out.
 
73  -  Jim   K8MR
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/12/2013 8:53:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jack.sm...@cliftonlaboratories.com writes:

Isn't  the 2N7002's internal diode arranged to conduct if the drain is 
negative  with respect to the source, but the inductive spike from low 
side  switching will be positive with respect to the drain?

What you really  want for this situation where the relay is presumably 
inaccessible and  hence cannot be fitted with a clamping diode or RC 
snubber is an avalanche  rated FET, and the 2N7002 is not avalanche 
rated. It may well be that the  2N7002 will handle some number of 
breakdown events but the breakdowns  degrade the device and will cause 
failure sooner or later.  Unless a  particular device is explicitly rated 
for avalanche operation, it must be  assumed it is not to be used in 
breakdown mode.

I like the  Vishay/Siliconix SI2328DS-T1-E3 for FET switching of relays 
where you  cannot be assured access to the relay coil. It's rated at 
100V, 1.5A and  is avalanche capable to 6A. It's an SOT-23 surface mount  
package.

Or, if an avalanche rated device is not to be used, a  zener with a 
breakdown voltage less than the maximum rated drain voltage  of the FET 
can be used from the drain to ground. It also has the advantage  of being 
more easily replaced in the future as bog standard parts are  involved.

Jack K8ZOA

On 3/12/2013 8:01 PM, hawley, charles j jr  wrote:
 The 2N7002 has an internal diode for any inductive  collapse.

 Sent from my iPad
 Chuck, KE9UW
 (Jack  for BMW motorcycles)

 On Mar 12, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Rich  Heineckric...@frontier.com  wrote:

  Jim,

 The FET shouldn't have had any problem with 50  mA.  It's a 2N7002 and 
is rated for 115 mA continuous and 800 mA pulsed,  with 60V max voltage when 
off.  One possibility is that the load being  switched was inductive (like a 
relay), and the FET's voltage rating was  exceeded when the relay was 
released due to inductive kickback.  The  simplest solution to snub the 
kickback 
spike is to put a reverse diode, like a  1N4002, across the relay coil 
(cathode side to the relay's '+'  supply).

 It's also possible the FET was defective or  damaged to begin with, 
which led to an early failure.

  73,
 Rich  AC7MA


 On  03/12/2013 01:28 PM,jimk...@aol.com  wrote:
 I blew the  switching FET with about 50 ma of current (12 volts) from a
  DownEast Microwave transverter. Elecraft says it should have handled 
it,  but
 anyway, FWIW.
   The FET has been  replaced, and an intermediate switching transistor
 installed  in the switchbox for the several transverters. Now switching 
1 or 2   ma,
 hope that holds!
  73  -  Jim   K8MR
   
From:robertwschumac...@yahoo.com
  To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent:  3/12/2013 12:07:26  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
 Subj: [Elecraft] KX3 Relay   Control For Desktop Amplifiers


  Most common desktop amps have a relay circuit that requires  a  
transceiver
 to short 12 VDC at 100 ma to key the amplifier  on.
 In the KX3  specs, the maximum amp relay current is  stated to be 100 
ma.
 Has anyone keyed  a desktop amp  directly with a KX3 or is it 
recommended to
 use an  intermediate  external relay   circuit?

  Thanks,

 W9DBR

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 in the ARRL International DX contest

2013-02-19 Thread Jimk8mr
Add me to the list of KX3 ops in the ARRL CW DX Contest.
 
I spent about 11 hours as HI/K8MR, operating with very simple wires from  
the Hard Rock Hotel  Casino resort in Punta Cana. Totaled 615 QSOs with 172  
Multipliers. There were some very slow times for us,  especially on the low 
 bands, when European signals were booming in, much louder than stateside. 
But we  couldn't work them in this contest  :-(
 
Best rate was an hour+ of 140/hr on 15 (and some 10) operating under a  
beach hut with a 10 foot piece of wire strung around the underside of the hut's 
 framework. Precautions were used to protect the radio: I taped over all 
unused  connecters and screw holes, and kept the radio in a ZipLoc bag, open 
only enough  to get out the coax and keyer and headphone lines. Sent by hand 
and logged on  paper from the beach!
 
Night time operation (and late afternoon after the internal batteries ran  
out) was from the room with wires run from our fourth floor balcony.
 
Jim, W8WTS, was also with me and shared time at the radio, using HI/W8WTS.  
I don't have his final results but I believe they were similar to mine.
 
I was able to pack all the radio stuff in the equivalent space of slightly  
less than a carry on suitcase. (A few tools did have to go in checked 
luggage).  Definitely a new horizon in contest expeditioning!
 
 
73  -  Jim   K8MR
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Transverter Band TX output

2013-01-09 Thread Jimk8mr
More info:
 
I have the ATU installed in the KX3. Even with the KX3 directly connected  
to a good 50 ohm load, running an autotune on the XV bands (28 MHz) causes 
lots  of relay chatter in the radio, and a displayed SWR of 25.4 that does 
not change.  On the other bands (including 28 MHz) it immediately goes to 1.0.
 
Setting the ATU to bypass still does not get RF output on the XV bands. The 
 current draw key down at 0.1 watt is about 0.43 A on the XV bands, and 
about .55  on the HF bands where there is output.
 
Has the KX3 firmware caught up with the XV bands?  I'm using  V1.30.
 
 
73  -   Jim   K8MR
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/8/2013 10:15:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jimk...@aol.com writes:

I'm  working at getting my DEM transverters interfaced to the KX3. I've set 
  
up the first three XVTR bands, configured for 28 MHz IF. With the KX3 max  
power  set at 0.1W on the transverter bands, I'm only getting about  20 mW 
of 
28 MHz RF  output (1V RMS measured on the scope). When I use  28 MHz with 
the 
power 
set at 0.1W I'm showing about 350 mW (4V RMS).  

I can increase the RF power by increasing the KX3 max power setting,  but  
still it is much lower on the XV bands than on 28  MHz.

The absolute numbers may not be very accurate, but why the  big  difference?


73  -  Jim   K8MR  



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Firmware suggestions.

2013-01-09 Thread Jimk8mr
A suggestion that I would like to see implemented:
 
An option in the CW Key menu of None, so one could use a 3.5mm mono plug, 
 ignoring the short to ground across what would be the ring in a stereo  
plug.
 
 
73  -  Jim  K8MR
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/9/2013 5:53:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
g...@keskydee.com writes:

Hello,

This has probably already been suggested, but I would  like:

- A four-digit code to turn on the radio, to prevent unauthorized  access.
- An automatic power reduction for data modes, like TUN  PWR.

Gil.
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[Elecraft] [KX3] Transverter Band TX output

2013-01-08 Thread Jimk8mr
I'm working at getting my DEM transverters interfaced to the KX3. I've set  
up the first three XVTR bands, configured for 28 MHz IF. With the KX3 max 
power  set at 0.1W on the transverter bands, I'm only getting about 20 mW of 
28 MHz RF  output (1V RMS measured on the scope). When I use 28 MHz with the 
power 
set at 0.1W I'm showing about 350 mW (4V RMS). 
 
I can increase the RF power by increasing the KX3 max power setting, but  
still it is much lower on the XV bands than on 28 MHz.
 
The absolute numbers may not be very accurate, but why the big  difference?
 
 
73  -  Jim   K8MR 
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] [KX3] Transverter Band Selection

2012-12-30 Thread Jimk8mr
I'm starting the project of getting my KX3 interfaced to my three DEM  
transverters (222-432-1296, all 28 MHz IFs).
 
If the XVn firmware working yet? The only search results I find from  the 
archives gives a September 2012 message that the firmware was still being  
worked on.
 
In particular, what sort of output does/will select the band? Is it serial  
data, a DC level, or what?  Is/will that be on the tip of the ACC2  plug?
 
I can still get things working by the January contest by just using the 28  
MHz frequency readout and my current transverter switch box, but having the 
 switching done at the radio with in band frequency readout would be cool.
 
Thanks,
 
 
Jim K8MR
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[Elecraft] KXBC Clock

2012-12-09 Thread Jimk8mr
Today at the end of the ARRL 10 meter contest, the real time clock in the  
KX3 rolled over from 23:59:59 to 24:00:00 and kept going.
 
I turned off the radio and it came back up at 00:02:xx
 
???
 
 
73  -  Jim  K8MR
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 battery charge level

2012-12-06 Thread Jimk8mr
Might it be possible to see the maH drawn since the end of the last charge? 
 Is seems that such info could be a useful gauge of how much battery juice 
is  remaining.
 
(If the answer is no, add this idea to the suggestion box.)
 
 
 
73  -  Jim   K8MR
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/6/2012 11:46:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
a...@bobandgloria.com writes:

Tap DISP  and turn the OFS knob.  First you see the clock, then you see the 
PS  (power supply) voltage, then you see the BT (battery voltage), followed 
by the  current draw.  

73 de AF9W
Bob  Stephens




On Dec  6, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Gordon Klemp wrote:

 I have a KX3 that I  assembled a few months ago. I just install the KXBC3
 Battery Charger.  I have wanted a way to see the state of the battery 
charge
 level. I  would think a portable radio should have the capability. Have I
  overlooked it?

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Filter Blow-By

2012-10-09 Thread Jimk8mr
I did some more careful checking this morning, transmitting a few watts on  
the FT-1000MP and using a couple of inches of wire as an antenna on the 
KX3, on  a quiet 10 meter band. The S-meter on the KX3 was 9+
 
There is noticeable opposite (lower frequency) side suppression  issues, 
but this cuts off at about 900 Hz
 
On the higher side, I can hear signal to as far as my hearing and/or the  
audio chain permit. The most interesting note was that the undesired signal  
(high side only) takes a sharp dip or disappears every 50Hz, at .00 or .05 
on  the frequency readout.
 
I'm not sure what to make of all this, but FWIW . . . 
 
 
73   -  Jim  K8MR
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/8/2012 3:29:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
dro...@necg.de writes:

Hi  Jim,

did you have VFO NR enabled by chance? I suppose yes, as the KX3  is quite 
unusable on the high bands without. :-( There is a known issue =  bad 
effect 
of the DSP leading to artifacts, i.e. hearing signals +/- 5-6  kHz again 
from strong stations. If you turn off VFO NR it goes away, but  then the 
VFO 
noise is much too strong. :-( Another bad effect is even with  VFO NR 
enabled 
if you tune over strong stations you suddenly have strong  VFO noise 
until 
you stop turning the wheel. Afterwards it's gone again.  And if you turn 
the 
VFO fast enough you will not even recognize even 59+  signals. :-( All 
problems from the VFO NR DSP implementation as confirmed  by Elecraft. And 
no 
matter if with or without roofing filter and  with/without 8 kHz shift 
enabled. Still wonder why nobody else is  complaining about those effects? 
Cannot be that everybody has an s4 noise  level on 12, 10  6 m that would 
mask the VFO noise and thus no need  to enable VFO NR.

I documented all those effects on video and sent it  over to Wayne. He said 
he and Lyle are working on it, hopefully with some  results soon, otherwise 
the KX3 is of no use for a high band op like me.  :-( Never seen such 
problems with *any* other rig owned so far  ...

73, Olli - DH8BQA



- Original Message -  
From: jimk...@aol.com
To:  elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 7:46  PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Filter Blow-By


A recent KX3 owner  (# 1677), I've noticed hearing out of passband  signals
 from loud  CW stations. I can hear such stations up to several KHz  away. 
I
  suspect the range is limited by the audio response of the system, 
  including
 my ears. Both sides of zero beat, though less so on the  opposite side  of
 the zero beat.

 In the CA QSO  Party this weekend, maybe the loudest 10% of the stations 
on
 10 CW  Saturday afternoon were leaking through. (I've heard the leakage on
  other  bands as well.)

 I don't have any roofing filters.  (I figured any stations weak enough  
for
 me to need the filter to  hear, would never be able to hear me anyway).

 Is this normal,  or is there some shielding or other issue affecting my
 unit? (It is a  kit version).


 73  -  Jim  K8MR
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[Elecraft] KX3 Filter Blow-By

2012-10-08 Thread Jimk8mr
A recent KX3 owner (# 1677), I've noticed hearing out of passband  signals 
from loud CW stations. I can hear such stations up to several KHz  away. I 
suspect the range is limited by the audio response of the system,  including 
my ears. Both sides of zero beat, though less so on the opposite side  of 
the zero beat.
 
In the CA QSO Party this weekend, maybe the loudest 10% of the stations on  
10 CW Saturday afternoon were leaking through. (I've heard the leakage on 
other  bands as well.)
 
I don't have any roofing filters. (I figured any stations weak enough  for 
me to need the filter to hear, would never be able to hear me anyway).
 
Is this normal, or is there some shielding or other issue affecting my  
unit? (It is a kit version).
 
 
73  -  Jim  K8MR
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