Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-30 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
The major issue I've found in using VOX for data modes lies in the fact 
that any noise {hum,  buzz, clicks, broadband noise, Windows sounds, 
RFI, etc.} coming out of the computer can and will trigger the VOX.  
This is specially true if the VOX gain is too high.  Also, the VOX delay 
does affect turn-a-round time and must be set to minimum.  That in 
itself then requires the operator to change VOX gain and Delay when 
reverting to SSB.  Of course if one doesn't use VOX for SSB it is a non 
issue.  And if in digital modes the VOX Gain is high and such that the 
system is driven into distortion, VOX audio chain, that will affect the 
delay time.


I agree with Don in that I find CAT is the better and most assured mode 
for transitioning between RX and TX.   As to CW using VOX with the K3S, 
that is totally internal to the radio.  A very different condition than 
one running an external application.


At the same time, I am not exactly clear on using multiple decoders.  I 
presume from what I've read, then each decoder has the option to 
transmit.  Thus the issue of conflicts with port assignments will likely 
arise.   Me, I prefer to keep life simple and use one mode at at time, 
running the application from the base application and not from within 
other applications.   I find life to be simpler and much less stressful 
but more reliable, thus not having to frequently determining what 
changed and why it doesn't work today.


This is totally independent on running one application and one decoder 
or multiple applications and decoders.   It is not a race, it is a 
hobby.   Thus coming in first has little merit.


Just remember, we are all going to get to the same place at sometime in 
the future.   The mortuary cooling slab could likely be one place.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/30/2020 9:32 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:
VOX is a lot easier to configure for digital modes than is is for 
voice because, all the digital modes -- at least that I know about -- 
are either on or off. None of them use different volume levels to 
encode data. This means that you just have to find a setting between 
zero volume and full volume, and it will work well for keying the 
radio. If use VOX for voice, the same setting should work for digital.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/29/20 at 9:59 PM, donw...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:

Although several others have had success with VOX, I find the most 
reliable is to use PTT via CAT command.  Set it in the application 
and you will have no problem.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-30 Thread Bill Frantz
VOX is a lot easier to configure for digital modes than is is 
for voice because, all the digital modes -- at least that I know 
about -- are either on or off. None of them use different volume 
levels to encode data. This means that you just have to find a 
setting between zero volume and full volume, and it will work 
well for keying the radio. If use VOX for voice, the same 
setting should work for digital.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/29/20 at 9:59 PM, donw...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:

Although several others have had success with VOX, I find the 
most reliable is to use PTT via CAT command.  Set it in the 
application and you will have no problem.


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(408)348-7900  | in a facility that processes   | 150 
Rivermead Rd #235
www.pwpconsult.com | peanuts and other nuts." - Duh | 
Peterborough, NH 03458


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-29 Thread Robert Cunnings

What is your VOX gain setting?

Bob NW8L

On Wed, 29 Jan 2020, Frank O'Donnell wrote:


Bob,

First, let me back up and say that I'm operating with the K3S in transverter 
mode on 630m with an external power amp. I've successfully used CAT control 
with WSJT-X on a MacBook Pro to tx/rx JT9 and WSPR. My objective now is to 
use the K3S in VOX mode with a Windows 10 desktop running two instances of 
WSJT-X, and one instance each of SlowJT9 and JS8Call. I'm told that a number 
of ops do this with other brands of rigs to allow the decoders to rx 
simultaneously, and to tx with any of them without any reconfig necessary 
(though obviously only one app can be used to transmit at any given time). At 
this point, I have all the decoders running simultaneously and successfully 
decoding incoming signals. Now I'm just working on getting VOX mode working 
to transmit.


As things stand now, when I click Tune or enable transmit in WSJT-X, the 
Windows audio system indicates that audio is going out to the USB Codec.


To answer your questions, nothing is plugged into the Line In on the K3S rear 
panel. When I started working on this, the K3S was in split mode with Data B 
selected. In order to get into Data A, I first needed to disable split mode. 
I then enabled VOX. The levels you mentioned all appear to be set 
appropriately.


Now, if I click Tune or enable transmit in WSJT-X, the K3S reenables split 
mode and switches to Data B. The red transmit light never comes on.


Undoubtedly there's another setting I need to do something with?

Thanks and 73,

Frank K6FOD



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-29 Thread Frank O'Donnell

Don,

Thanks for the comment.

CAT has always been the PTT method I've used with WSJT-X, and it's been 
very successful. It would normally be my first choice.


However, I just ran across this interesting configuration that some 
number of 630m ops are using, using other brands of rigs. Since all of 
the digital modes on 630m are based off the same frequency of 474.2 kHz, 
they set their rigs to that frequency and then use VOX control to allow 
several decoders on the same PC to rx simultaneously, and tx one at a 
time without any reconfiguration. I gather this couldn't be done if the 
decoder apps used CAT, as only one app can have CAT control of the rig 
at any time.


So I wanted to give this a try. So far I have several decoders receiving 
simultaneously from the K3S, and it's nice to have JT9, WSPR, SlowJT9 
and JS8 all being decoded at the same time. I'm just having challenges 
getting transmitting to work with VOX. I know the PC is sending audio 
out the USB Codec when I hit the Tune button in WSJT-X, and I know VOX 
works on my K3S because I use it for CW. Just trying to knit the final 
details together.


73,

Frank K6FOD


On 1/29/20 6:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Frank,

Although several others have had success with VOX, I find the most 
reliable is to use PTT via CAT command.  Set it in the application and 
you will have no problem.


If your problem is related to audio levels, refer to my website 
www.w3fpr.com.  Scroll the left column to the last article and click 
to open the page.  No matter whether you are operating from the 
transverter mode or the normal antenna, you must have 4 bars solid 
with the 5th bar flashing on the ALC meter.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/29/2020 9:35 PM, Frank O'Donnell wrote:

Bob,

First, let me back up and say that I'm operating with the K3S in 
transverter mode on 630m with an external power amp. I've 
successfully used CAT control with WSJT-X on a MacBook Pro to tx/rx 
JT9 and WSPR. My objective now is to use the K3S in VOX mode with a 
Windows 10 desktop running two instances of WSJT-X, 




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Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-29 Thread Don Wilhelm

Frank,

Although several others have had success with VOX, I find the most 
reliable is to use PTT via CAT command.  Set it in the application and 
you will have no problem.


If your problem is related to audio levels, refer to my website 
www.w3fpr.com.  Scroll the left column to the last article and click to 
open the page.  No matter whether you are operating from the transverter 
mode or the normal antenna, you must have 4 bars solid with the 5th bar 
flashing on the ALC meter.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/29/2020 9:35 PM, Frank O'Donnell wrote:

Bob,

First, let me back up and say that I'm operating with the K3S in 
transverter mode on 630m with an external power amp. I've successfully 
used CAT control with WSJT-X on a MacBook Pro to tx/rx JT9 and WSPR. My 
objective now is to use the K3S in VOX mode with a Windows 10 desktop 
running two instances of WSJT-X, 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-29 Thread Frank O'Donnell

Rich,

I don't think CAT control is necessary in this case, because in this 
configuration, all of the tx/rx is on one band (630m) and one frequency 
(474.2 kHz, used by JT9, WSPR and other digital modes, unlike HF bands 
where they are on different frequencies). I haven't yet found anyone 
else with a K3/K3S operating in this configuration on that band, but a 
number of ops with other brands of rigs set things up this way, with 
several decoders running all in VOX mode. I assume there must be a way 
to do this with the K3S.


Thanks and 73,

Frank K6FOD


On 1/28/20 1:52 PM, Richard Ferch wrote:

However, you also said you wanted to run multiple instances of WSJT-X.
That's a different matter, and PTT/VOX is only a small part of it. If you
try to run more than one instance of WSJT-X, only the first instance will
be able to use CAT control. Any other instances will not be able to open
the serial port used to control the radio, so they will not have CAT
control of any kind, including not only PTT control, but also frequency and
mode control.

JT9 uses CAT control not only for PTT, but also for frequency control
(split operation, and/or specific frequencies for different modes on
various bands). The instance you use for JT9 and similar modes should
probably have full CAT control. WSPR, on the other hand, does not really
need CAT control once you have tuned the transceiver to the correct
frequency for the band.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-29 Thread Frank O'Donnell

Bob,

First, let me back up and say that I'm operating with the K3S in 
transverter mode on 630m with an external power amp. I've successfully 
used CAT control with WSJT-X on a MacBook Pro to tx/rx JT9 and WSPR. My 
objective now is to use the K3S in VOX mode with a Windows 10 desktop 
running two instances of WSJT-X, and one instance each of SlowJT9 and 
JS8Call. I'm told that a number of ops do this with other brands of rigs 
to allow the decoders to rx simultaneously, and to tx with any of them 
without any reconfig necessary (though obviously only one app can be 
used to transmit at any given time). At this point, I have all the 
decoders running simultaneously and successfully decoding incoming 
signals. Now I'm just working on getting VOX mode working to transmit.


As things stand now, when I click Tune or enable transmit in WSJT-X, the 
Windows audio system indicates that audio is going out to the USB Codec.


To answer your questions, nothing is plugged into the Line In on the K3S 
rear panel. When I started working on this, the K3S was in split mode 
with Data B selected. In order to get into Data A, I first needed to 
disable split mode. I then enabled VOX. The levels you mentioned all 
appear to be set appropriately.


Now, if I click Tune or enable transmit in WSJT-X, the K3S reenables 
split mode and switches to Data B. The red transmit light never comes on.


Undoubtedly there's another setting I need to do something with?

Thanks and 73,

Frank K6FOD



On 1/29/20 8:45 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
Are you in Data A mode and do you have anything plugged into the Line 
IN on the rear?


Line Gain on the radio is typically is set for 30 to 40 using the MIC 
control on the front panel.   And with the others,  set the ALC 
bargraph to show 4 to 5 bars and then set the PWR value on the radio 
to that which you desire to operate.  The PWR slider on WSJT-X is set 
in the upper 3/4 of the scale, depending on SPKR level set on the 
computer.   I use 30 to 35 for SPKR level on the computer.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/29/2020 10:38 AM, Barry wrote:

Frank,
    My read of your comments is that it is all OK. If you are getting 
power out, you're on the air. Nothing to do but operate. Pick some 
strong station calling CQ and give him a call. And, see what happens. 
There should be nothing else on the rig to fiddle with at this time.


73,
Barry
K3NDM
-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "Barry" ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 


Sent: 1/29/2020 1:11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

Thanks. After I set mine up the same, when I press Tune or transmit 
in WSJT-X I can see audio going out to the USB Codec output in the 
Windows audio system. However, no sign of any action on the K3S. 
Besides toggling VOX on with the button at the upper left of the 
K3(s)'s front panel, is there anything else you need to set on the 
rig to make this work?


On 1/28/20 6:57 PM, Barry wrote:

Frank,
    Do use the K3 description on the radio page. This will allow 
the software to change the radio frequency as you change bands and 
modes. Once, you are on the band, frequency is a matter of the tone 
that is generated. And, VOX does the rest. Pretty straight forward. 
It all becomes really clear after your 3rd or so contact. :-) Have 
fun.


73,
Barry
K3NDM


-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "Barry" ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 


Sent: 1/28/2020 3:00:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?


Barry,

Thanks. I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's 
Settings > Radio page:


-- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?

-- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so 
is anything entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, 
DTR/RTS, etc)?


-- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected 
as PTT method. What choices are selected for Mode and for Split 
Operation?


Thanks again,

Frank


On 1/28/20 11:20 AM, Barry wrote:

Frank,
    I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, 
FT8, and FT4. I really haven't done anything to the default 
setting that came with the radio. I just set the line in to 20 
and adjust the power slider in WSJT-X to get the 4 bars with 5th 
flickering on the K3s's ALC readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: 
watch your PA temperature. It will definitely rise.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long 
time, using a single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT 
control.


Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable 
running multiple instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same 
band (JT9 and WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if it's of any in

Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-29 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Are you in Data A mode and do you have anything plugged into the Line IN 
on the rear?


Line Gain on the radio is typically is set for 30 to 40 using the MIC 
control on the front panel.   And with the others,  set the ALC bargraph 
to show 4 to 5 bars and then set the PWR value on the radio to that 
which you desire to operate.  The PWR slider on WSJT-X is set in the 
upper 3/4 of the scale, depending on SPKR level set on the computer.   I 
use 30 to 35 for SPKR level on the computer.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 1/29/2020 10:38 AM, Barry wrote:

Frank,
    My read of your comments is that it is all OK. If you are getting 
power out, you're on the air. Nothing to do but operate. Pick some 
strong station calling CQ and give him a call. And, see what happens. 
There should be nothing else on the rig to fiddle with at this time.


73,
Barry
K3NDM
-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "Barry" ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 


Sent: 1/29/2020 1:11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

Thanks. After I set mine up the same, when I press Tune or transmit 
in WSJT-X I can see audio going out to the USB Codec output in the 
Windows audio system. However, no sign of any action on the K3S. 
Besides toggling VOX on with the button at the upper left of the 
K3(s)'s front panel, is there anything else you need to set on the 
rig to make this work?


On 1/28/20 6:57 PM, Barry wrote:

Frank,
    Do use the K3 description on the radio page. This will allow the 
software to change the radio frequency as you change bands and 
modes. Once, you are on the band, frequency is a matter of the tone 
that is generated. And, VOX does the rest. Pretty straight forward. 
It all becomes really clear after your 3rd or so contact. :-) Have fun.


73,
Barry
K3NDM


-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "Barry" ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 


Sent: 1/28/2020 3:00:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?


Barry,

Thanks. I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's 
Settings > Radio page:


-- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?

-- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so 
is anything entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, 
DTR/RTS, etc)?


-- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected as 
PTT method. What choices are selected for Mode and for Split 
Operation?


Thanks again,

Frank


On 1/28/20 11:20 AM, Barry wrote:

Frank,
    I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, 
FT8, and FT4. I really haven't done anything to the default 
setting that came with the radio. I just set the line in to 20 and 
adjust the power slider in WSJT-X to get the 4 bars with 5th 
flickering on the K3s's ALC readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: 
watch your PA temperature. It will definitely rise.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, 
using a single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.


Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running 
multiple instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 
and WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if it's of any interest). Could anyone who 
is using VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell me how they have the 
Settings > Radio pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably 
stumble my way through, but some pointers would undoubtedly make 
faster progress.


Thanks and 73,

Frank K6FOD










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Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-29 Thread Barry

Frank,
My read of your comments is that it is all OK. If you are getting 
power out, you're on the air. Nothing to do but operate. Pick some 
strong station calling CQ and give him a call. And, see what happens. 
There should be nothing else on the rig to fiddle with at this time.


73,
Barry
K3NDM
-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "Barry" ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 


Sent: 1/29/2020 1:11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?


Thanks. After I set mine up the same, when I press Tune or transmit in WSJT-X I 
can see audio going out to the USB Codec output in the Windows audio system. 
However, no sign of any action on the K3S. Besides toggling VOX on with the 
button at the upper left of the K3(s)'s front panel, is there anything else you 
need to set on the rig to make this work?

On 1/28/20 6:57 PM, Barry wrote:

Frank,
Do use the K3 description on the radio page. This will allow the software 
to change the radio frequency as you change bands and modes. Once, you are on 
the band, frequency is a matter of the tone that is generated. And, VOX does 
the rest. Pretty straight forward. It all becomes really clear after your 3rd 
or so contact. :-) Have fun.

73,
Barry
K3NDM


-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "Barry" ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 

Sent: 1/28/2020 3:00:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?


Barry,

Thanks. I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's Settings > Radio 
page:

-- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?

-- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so is anything 
entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, DTR/RTS, etc)?

-- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected as PTT method. 
What choices are selected for Mode and for Split Operation?

Thanks again,

Frank


On 1/28/20 11:20 AM, Barry wrote:

Frank,
I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, FT8, and FT4. I 
really haven't done anything to the default setting that came with the radio. I 
just set the line in to 20 and adjust the power slider in WSJT-X to get the 4 
bars with 5th flickering on the K3s's ALC readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: 
watch your PA temperature. It will definitely rise.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?


I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, using a 
single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.

Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running multiple 
instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 and WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if 
it's of any interest). Could anyone who is using VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell 
me how they have the Settings > Radio pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably 
stumble my way through, but some pointers would undoubtedly make faster progress.

Thanks and 73,

Frank K6FOD










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Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-28 Thread Frank O'Donnell
Thanks. After I set mine up the same, when I press Tune or transmit in 
WSJT-X I can see audio going out to the USB Codec output in the Windows 
audio system. However, no sign of any action on the K3S. Besides 
toggling VOX on with the button at the upper left of the K3(s)'s front 
panel, is there anything else you need to set on the rig to make this work?


On 1/28/20 6:57 PM, Barry wrote:

Frank,
    Do use the K3 description on the radio page. This will allow the 
software to change the radio frequency as you change bands and modes. 
Once, you are on the band, frequency is a matter of the tone that is 
generated. And, VOX does the rest. Pretty straight forward. It all 
becomes really clear after your 3rd or so contact. :-) Have fun.


73,
Barry
K3NDM


-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "Barry" ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 


Sent: 1/28/2020 3:00:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?


Barry,

Thanks. I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's 
Settings > Radio page:


-- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?

-- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so is 
anything entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, 
DTR/RTS, etc)?


-- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected as 
PTT method. What choices are selected for Mode and for Split Operation?


Thanks again,

Frank


On 1/28/20 11:20 AM, Barry wrote:

Frank,
    I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, FT8, 
and FT4. I really haven't done anything to the default setting that 
came with the radio. I just set the line in to 20 and adjust the 
power slider in WSJT-X to get the 4 bars with 5th flickering on the 
K3s's ALC readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: watch your PA 
temperature. It will definitely rise.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, 
using a single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.


Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running 
multiple instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 
and WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if it's of any interest). Could anyone who 
is using VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell me how they have the 
Settings > Radio pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably stumble 
my way through, but some pointers would undoubtedly make faster 
progress.


Thanks and 73,

Frank K6FOD








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Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-28 Thread Barry

Frank,
Do use the K3 description on the radio page. This will allow the 
software to change the radio frequency as you change bands and modes. 
Once, you are on the band, frequency is a matter of the tone that is 
generated. And, VOX does the rest. Pretty straight forward. It all 
becomes really clear after your 3rd or so contact. :-) Have fun.


73,
Barry
K3NDM


-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "Barry" ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 


Sent: 1/28/2020 3:00:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?


Barry,

Thanks. I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's Settings > Radio 
page:

-- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?

-- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so is anything 
entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, DTR/RTS, etc)?

-- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected as PTT method. 
What choices are selected for Mode and for Split Operation?

Thanks again,

Frank


On 1/28/20 11:20 AM, Barry wrote:

Frank,
I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, FT8, and FT4. I 
really haven't done anything to the default setting that came with the radio. I 
just set the line in to 20 and adjust the power slider in WSJT-X to get the 4 
bars with 5th flickering on the K3s's ALC readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: 
watch your PA temperature. It will definitely rise.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?


I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, using a 
single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.

Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running multiple 
instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 and WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if 
it's of any interest). Could anyone who is using VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell 
me how they have the Settings > Radio pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably 
stumble my way through, but some pointers would undoubtedly make faster progress.

Thanks and 73,

Frank K6FOD





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Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-28 Thread Richard Ferch
Your first posting said that you had been using WSJt-X for a fairly long
time using the USB cable for both audio and CAT control. If the only change
you want to make is to use VOX instead of PTT, the only thing you need to
change in WSJT-X  is the PTT setting - change it from CAT to VOX.
Everything else can stay the same.

However, you also said you wanted to run multiple instances of WSJT-X.
That's a different matter, and PTT/VOX is only a small part of it. If you
try to run more than one instance of WSJT-X, only the first instance will
be able to use CAT control. Any other instances will not be able to open
the serial port used to control the radio, so they will not have CAT
control of any kind, including not only PTT control, but also frequency and
mode control.

JT9 uses CAT control not only for PTT, but also for frequency control
(split operation, and/or specific frequencies for different modes on
various bands). The instance you use for JT9 and similar modes should
probably have full CAT control. WSPR, on the other hand, does not really
need CAT control once you have tuned the transceiver to the correct
frequency for the band. So I'd suggest creating a second instance of WSJT-X
that does not have CAT control implemented at all, with PTT using VOX and
Split Operation set to None. Use that second non-CAT instance for WSPR.

73,
Rich VE3KI

K6FOD wrote:

I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's Settings
 > Radio page:

-- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?

-- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so is
anything entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, DTR/RTS,
etc)?

-- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected as PTT
method. What choices are selected for Mode and for Split Operation?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-28 Thread Frank O'Donnell

Barry,

Thanks. I was specifically wondering about entries on WSJT-X's Settings 
> Radio page:


-- At the top of the page, is anything filled in for "Rig"?

-- The lefthand side of the page has the heading "CAT Control," so is 
anything entered here (serial port, baud rate, data/stop bits, DTR/RTS, 
etc)?


-- On the righthand side of the page, I assume "VOX" is selected as PTT 
method. What choices are selected for Mode and for Split Operation?


Thanks again,

Frank


On 1/28/20 11:20 AM, Barry wrote:

Frank,
    I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, FT8, 
and FT4. I really haven't done anything to the default setting that 
came with the radio. I just set the line in to 20 and adjust the power 
slider in WSJT-X to get the 4 bars with 5th flickering on the K3s's 
ALC readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: watch your PA temperature. It 
will definitely rise.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, 
using a single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.


Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running 
multiple instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 and 
WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if it's of any interest). Could anyone who is 
using VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell me how they have the Settings 
> Radio pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably stumble my way 
through, but some pointers would undoubtedly make faster progress.


Thanks and 73,

Frank K6FOD



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-28 Thread Barry

Frank,
I use VOX for all of my digital operation to include AFSK, FT8, and 
FT4. I really haven't done anything to the default setting that came 
with the radio. I just set the line in to 20 and adjust the power slider 
in WSJT-X to get the 4 bars with 5th flickering on the K3s's ALC 
readout. Nothing fancy! One caution: watch your PA temperature. It will 
definitely rise.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

-- Original Message --
From: "Frank O'Donnell" 
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Sent: 1/28/2020 1:22:43 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?


I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, using a 
single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.

Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running multiple 
instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 and WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if 
it's of any interest). Could anyone who is using VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell 
me how they have the Settings > Radio pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably 
stumble my way through, but some pointers would undoubtedly make faster progress.

Thanks and 73,

Frank K6FOD


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[Elecraft] K3S, VOX and WSJT-X?

2020-01-27 Thread Frank O'Donnell
I've successfully used WSJT-X with my K3S for a fairly long time, using 
a single USB cable for both audio transfer and CAT control.


Currently I'm interested in trying VOX in order to enable running 
multiple instances of WSJT-X simultaneously on the same band (JT9 and 
WSPR on 474.2 kHz, if it's of any interest). Could anyone who is using 
VOX for WSJT-X with a K3/K3S tell me how they have the Settings > Radio 
pane in WSJT-X configured? I can probably stumble my way through, but 
some pointers would undoubtedly make faster progress.


Thanks and 73,

Frank K6FOD


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