Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Belli Button
New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the preferred
LCNC editor)?

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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Marius Liebenberg


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Subject: Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the 
preferred
LCNC editor)?

That will be highly debateable but it is easy to get. Just do sudo 
apt-get install gedit



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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread alex chiosso
Hi Belli.

I've installed the Debian Wheezy LCNC and I was surprised that Gedit wasn't
installed by default.
As an alternative editor I've installed Geany http://www.geany.org/ that
is much better than Gedit (this is my opinion ;-) ).
The only one disadvantege I've found is that Geany doesn't have the NC code
highlight.
But in any case you can install Gedit if you want from the command line
with sudo apt-get install gedit.

Alex

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Belli Button be...@iafrica.com wrote:

 New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the
 preferred
 LCNC editor)?

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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread John Thornton
I thought Nano was the preferred text editor for EMC...

On 4/1/2015 4:30 AM, Belli Button wrote:
 New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the preferred
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Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread John Thornton
That is the correct behavior for using M2 or M30 to end a program.

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/m-code.html#sec:M2-M30

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/overview.html#_file_requirements

JT

On 4/1/2015 6:32 AM, Belli Button wrote:
 Another funny...

 When I stop a program, LCNC sends my spindle speed to zero, I have to MDI a
 spindle speed (S) and then M3 to start the spindle or it stats with zero
 speed, am I doing something wrong?





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Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread Belli Button
Perhaps if I explain it better, if I am half way through a tool path, I stop
(not pause the machine) for some reason and want to continue (start from
line..), starting the spindle on its own is not sufficient.  I have to go to
MDI, set the Speed (S..) and then I am able to start the spindle and then
return to start the program.  Simply starting the spindle gives me a (S000)
zero speed.

Surely LCNC should remember what the S is after stopping?

Running from the start of a program is fine as I have a M3 and S

I am I wrong?



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Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

On 1 April 2015 at 12:32, Belli Button be...@iafrica.com wrote:
 When I stop a program, LCNC sends my spindle speed to zero

I think that is normal (and standard).

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Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Spindle speed set in a program does not set the MDI spindle speed. If 
you want to turn the spindle on manually you have to set the speed in 
the MDI with the S command.
If the programs sets the speed to 0 it might stay there even if the MDI 
was set before but I cannot say if this is always true.



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Subject: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

Another funny...

When I stop a program, LCNC sends my spindle speed to zero, I have to 
MDI a
spindle speed (S) and then M3 to start the spindle or it stats with 
zero
speed, am I doing something wrong?





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Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 April 2015 at 12:32, Belli Button be...@iafrica.com wrote:
 When I stop a program, LCNC sends my spindle speed to zero

I think that is normal (and standard).

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[Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread Belli Button
Another funny...

When I stop a program, LCNC sends my spindle speed to zero, I have to MDI a
spindle speed (S) and then M3 to start the spindle or it stats with zero
speed, am I doing something wrong?





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Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread John Thornton
Pressing the Esc key or the stop button is the same as M2.

JT

On 4/1/2015 7:48 AM, Belli Button wrote:
 Perhaps if I explain it better, if I am half way through a tool path, I stop
 (not pause the machine) for some reason and want to continue (start from
 line..), starting the spindle on its own is not sufficient.  I have to go to
 MDI, set the Speed (S..) and then I am able to start the spindle and then
 return to start the program.  Simply starting the spindle gives me a (S000)
 zero speed.

 Surely LCNC should remember what the S is after stopping?

 Running from the start of a program is fine as I have a M3 and S

 I am I wrong?



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 Sent: 01 April 2015 14:20
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 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

 On 1 April 2015 at 12:32, Belli Button be...@iafrica.com wrote:
 When I stop a program, LCNC sends my spindle speed to zero
 I think that is normal (and standard).

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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Dave Cole
I prefer gedit.It's easier for noobs to understand and use gedit.

Dave

On 4/1/2015 7:47 AM, John Thornton wrote:
 I thought Nano was the preferred text editor for EMC...

 On 4/1/2015 4:30 AM, Belli Button wrote:
 New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the preferred
 LCNC editor)?

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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 01 April 2015 08:47:15 John Thornton wrote:
 I thought Nano was the preferred text editor for EMC...

It can be used on limited resource machines, but gedit, or geany has a 
much nicer interface.  Gedit I have had trash several files however, so 
while geany doesn't have all the syntax hylighting gedit has, its 
commands are nearly identical so if used to one you are used to the 
other.  And geany hasn't yet ever trashed a file for me, gedit has 
several times, and when it happened for about the 10th time while doing 
that 400 line hal for the lathe, that was the back breaking straw for 
me.

Nano has not ever trashed a file, but I find its command interface clumsy 
and a bit prehistoric.  If nano has a search (and replace) function, 
I've not figured out how to use it.

My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra weeks 
getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its propensity to 
copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into the middle of other 
lines of .hal stuff, caused me so much grief with the pure gibberish it 
created that I was ready to shoot all the neighborhood cats.  So I went 
looking for an editor that worked, and geany was it. With geany, and 
some help from rockhopper, I huge breath of fresh air for me.

 On 4/1/2015 4:30 AM, Belli Button wrote:
  New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the
  preferred LCNC editor)?
 
  Bellisimo
 
 
  
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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Jack Coats
Editors are a religious issue.  (just google vi vs emacs and read a few
flame wars - I'm in the vi camp myself ;-) )

Use whatever floats your boat and works the way YOU want to work.  Editors
are used so much that you should get to know your preferred editor
'intimately' enough so you don't fumble with commands and you are
comfortable at using it yourself and you feel productive.


On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:47 AM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought Nano was the preferred text editor for EMC...

 On 4/1/2015 4:30 AM, Belli Button wrote:
  New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the
 preferred
  LCNC editor)?
 
  Bellisimo
 
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Moses McKnight
That is interesting, because I use Gedit a *lot* - multiple instances running 
with multiple files open in each instance - and I have never had it trash a 
single file or ever even crash.

Moses

On 04/01/2015 08:33 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
snip
 It can be used on limited resource machines, but gedit, or geany has a
 much nicer interface.  Gedit I have had trash several files however, so
 while geany doesn't have all the syntax hylighting gedit has, its
 commands are nearly identical so if used to one you are used to the
 other.  And geany hasn't yet ever trashed a file for me, gedit has
 several times, and when it happened for about the 10th time while doing
 that 400 line hal for the lathe, that was the back breaking straw for
 me.

 Nano has not ever trashed a file, but I find its command interface clumsy
 and a bit prehistoric.  If nano has a search (and replace) function,
 I've not figured out how to use it.

 My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra weeks
 getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its propensity to
 copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into the middle of other
 lines of .hal stuff, caused me so much grief with the pure gibberish it
 created that I was ready to shoot all the neighborhood cats.  So I went
 looking for an editor that worked, and geany was it. With geany, and
 some help from rockhopper, I huge breath of fresh air for me.

 On 4/1/2015 4:30 AM, Belli Button wrote:
 New Debian install CD does not include Gedit (even though it's the
 preferred LCNC editor)?

 Bellisimo

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Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/01/2015 07:19 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 1 April 2015 at 12:32, Belli Button be...@iafrica.com wrote:
 When I stop a program, LCNC sends my spindle speed to zero
 I think that is normal (and standard).

It is the way my system works, too.  it is annoying.  If 
doing stuff manually, I start the spindle
with MDI M03 S2720 or something, then stop it with F9.  If I 
hit F9 again, the relay to start the spindle is turned on, 
but the speed is set to 0.  Kind of annoying, but safer.  it 
would be kind of nice if clicking F9 again would start the 
spindle at the last speed, but I can see there is a safety 
issue there.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread alex chiosso
If someone is able to add the nc code highlighting many people will really
appreciate it.;-)

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Kyle Kerr ker...@gmail.com wrote:

 I noticed a couple of mentions that geany doesn't have nc highlighting.
 Adding it shouldn't be much of an issue. Heck, someone may already have the
 config available.
 On Apr 1, 2015 11:28 AM, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com
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  On 04/01/2015 06:33 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 
  ... snip
   My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra weeks
   getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its propensity to
   copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into the middle of other
   lines of .hal stuff,
  ... snip
 
  I have had this happen to me and it seems my mouse wheel is the source
  of trouble. The wheel is also the middle button which seems to have a
  paste function. When I use the wheel to scroll through a file there is a
  risk that turning the wheel also trips the middle button. One time, I
  pasted an e-mail reply several times into a large Python file.
  Sometimes, it can take weeks to discover the error. I've tried changing
  all my mice to ones without wheels, but they are too handy for scrolling
  and some software requires a wheel. I suppose I should figure out how to
  disable the wheel button function.
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Kyle Kerr
I noticed a couple of mentions that geany doesn't have nc highlighting.
Adding it shouldn't be much of an issue. Heck, someone may already have the
config available.
On Apr 1, 2015 11:28 AM, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote:

 On 04/01/2015 06:33 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

 ... snip
  My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra weeks
  getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its propensity to
  copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into the middle of other
  lines of .hal stuff,
 ... snip

 I have had this happen to me and it seems my mouse wheel is the source
 of trouble. The wheel is also the middle button which seems to have a
 paste function. When I use the wheel to scroll through a file there is a
 risk that turning the wheel also trips the middle button. One time, I
 pasted an e-mail reply several times into a large Python file.
 Sometimes, it can take weeks to discover the error. I've tried changing
 all my mice to ones without wheels, but they are too handy for scrolling
 and some software requires a wheel. I suppose I should figure out how to
 disable the wheel button function.


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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 01 April 2015 11:24:23 Kirk Wallace wrote:
 On 04/01/2015 06:33 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

 ... snip

  My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra
  weeks getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its
  propensity to copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into the
  middle of other lines of .hal stuff,

 ... snip

 I have had this happen to me and it seems my mouse wheel is the source
 of trouble. The wheel is also the middle button which seems to have a
 paste function. When I use the wheel to scroll through a file there is
 a risk that turning the wheel also trips the middle button. One time,
 I pasted an e-mail reply several times into a large Python file.
 Sometimes, it can take weeks to discover the error. I've tried
 changing all my mice to ones without wheels, but they are too handy
 for scrolling and some software requires a wheel. I suppose I should
 figure out how to disable the wheel button function.

I am aware of that problem too, and it has bit me also.  But I can't see 
it pasting stuff 200+ lines on down the file from where the cursor is 
at.  What I usually do is open up some white space, do the paste, then 
nuke the unwanted white space.  But I totally agree, putting the paste 
as the MMB push when its the scroll wheel we are pushing on, was not one 
of our more genius mouse inventions. If I had my druthers, there would 
still be an MMB, down in front of the scroll wheel, with a raised top so 
if we straightend out the finger, it still would not touch the scroll 
wheel, even for people like me with a dogpatch ham hand that still 
cannot reach an octave spread on the piano keyboard.  I have to buy 
gloves in the XXL size, struggle to get them on because the wrist 
opening is still too tight and then have an inch or more of empty 
fingers/thumbs in the way.  Its a friggin PIMA to me.

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[Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread Mark Johnsen
I'm looking at controlling a X-Z gantry system w/ LinuxCNC (well really HAL
and some code).  Operator pushes a button and the gantry moves between two
baths, waiting for pre-set seconds per bath.  The positions are set and do
not change.

I was thinking of using a Mesa 5i25-7i76 combo and maybe a 7i32 1.5/3Amp or
another off-the-shelf stepper driver.  There's no-magic needed for this.  I
need some I/O for limits, home, inputs, outputs, etc.  I realize the 7i76
is overkill for axis count, but I might want to expand to 4 axes later.

I would take one of the GUI interfaces (touchy or axis, etc) and make my
own suitable interface (easier said than done, possibly).

The bath has a Love temp controller (16A2133-996) that can communicate
Modbus RS-485.  The 7i76 has RS-422 serial and the PC would have a RS-232
port.  What's the best way to get to RS-485?  I could use a RS-232 to
RS-485 converter like this one from advantech:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Advantech/ADAM-4561-CE/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduhMyuR96x%252bdp4DnBDFhtESzKcpNyIUxvYPu1PngEfDtkA%3d%3d

I thought maybe someone would have a suggestion?  Might the mesa smart
serial RS-422 be able to work someway?

Regards,
Mark

PS.  Considering my monitor turning off issues (previous posts), I'm second
guessing using LinuxCNC/hal for this, but I'm a glutton for punishment..
You just can't beat the price/feature linuxCNC.
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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 04/01/2015 06:33 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

... snip
 My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra weeks
 getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its propensity to
 copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into the middle of other
 lines of .hal stuff,
... snip

I have had this happen to me and it seems my mouse wheel is the source 
of trouble. The wheel is also the middle button which seems to have a 
paste function. When I use the wheel to scroll through a file there is a 
risk that turning the wheel also trips the middle button. One time, I 
pasted an e-mail reply several times into a large Python file. 
Sometimes, it can take weeks to discover the error. I've tried changing 
all my mice to ones without wheels, but they are too handy for scrolling 
and some software requires a wheel. I suppose I should figure out how to 
disable the wheel button function.


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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 01 April 2015 11:58:59 alex chiosso wrote:
 If someone is able to add the nc code highlighting many people will
 really appreciate it.;-)

I did take a look at it Alex, but the plugin interface is totally 
different, so I figured the best I could do was break it.

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Kyle Kerr ker...@gmail.com wrote:
  I noticed a couple of mentions that geany doesn't have nc
  highlighting. Adding it shouldn't be much of an issue. Heck, someone
  may already have the config available.
  On Apr 1, 2015 11:28 AM, Kirk Wallace
  kwall...@wallacecompany.com
 
  wrote:
   On 04/01/2015 06:33 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  
   ... snip
  
My distaste for gedit is because gedit probably cost me 2 extra
weeks getting my lathe running with a 5i25 card because of its
propensity to copy a line, or several lines of .hal stuff, into
the middle of other lines of .hal stuff,
  
   ... snip
  
   I have had this happen to me and it seems my mouse wheel is the
   source of trouble. The wheel is also the middle button which seems
   to have a paste function. When I use the wheel to scroll through a
   file there is a risk that turning the wheel also trips the middle
   button. One time, I pasted an e-mail reply several times into a
   large Python file. Sometimes, it can take weeks to discover the
   error. I've tried changing all my mice to ones without wheels, but
   they are too handy for scrolling and some software requires a
   wheel. I suppose I should figure out how to disable the wheel
   button function.
  
  
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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread Mark Johnsen
Seb - How do you respond so fast?!

The love controller has a -995 option, which is RS232.  But, there are 2
controllers and there's no addressing for the rs-232 version from what I
saw.  I thought maybe you could daisy chain them, but seems you can only
address the RS-485 version.

On the Automation direct GS2 VFD, that was nice because it had a rs-485 or
rs-232 option selectable.

PS - what reader do you use for this mailing list to get the  inserted?
I simply have been using gmail and recall posts a long time ago on better
readers, but I couldn't find it when I searched?  Also, I think one of the
reader will keep the posts in one thread.

Thanks,
Mark

On 4/1/15 10:05 AM, Mark Johnsen wrote:
 The bath has a Love temp controller (16A2133-996) that can communicate
 Modbus RS-485.  The 7i76 has RS-422 serial and the PC would have a RS-232
 port.  What's the best way to get to RS-485?  I could use a RS-232 to
 RS-485 converter like this one from advantech:

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Advantech/ADAM-4561-CE/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduhMyuR96x%252bdp4DnBDFhtESzKcpNyIUxvYPu1PngEfDtkA%3d%3d

 I thought maybe someone would have a suggestion?  Might the mesa smart
 serial RS-422 be able to work someway?

A lot of modbus devices will accept RS232.  I run modbus from LinuxCNC
to a couple of VFDs over USB-to-RS232 adapters, inexpensive  works great.


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Re: [Emc-users] New Debian install does not include Gedit

2015-04-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 01 April 2015 10:10:24 Moses McKnight wrote:
 That is interesting, because I use Gedit a *lot* - multiple instances
 running with multiple files open in each instance - and I have never
 had it trash a single file or ever even crash.

 Moses

I have no clue where the actual fault in the gedit situation might lay, 
perhaps a plugin that didn't play well with others was at fault.  And 
now that I've found geany, I don't care.  Its a headache I needn't worry 
about any more.

If I am ever made aware that a newer minor version (its 20.3 in the 
10.04-4 repos), containing bugfixes is in the repo's, I might give it 
another chance.  In the debian repos for wheezy, it is some other far 
fetched version, like 3.4.2 but its been excised, or never installed.

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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 4/1/15 10:05 AM, Mark Johnsen wrote:
 The bath has a Love temp controller (16A2133-996) that can communicate
 Modbus RS-485.  The 7i76 has RS-422 serial and the PC would have a RS-232
 port.  What's the best way to get to RS-485?  I could use a RS-232 to
 RS-485 converter like this one from advantech:
 http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Advantech/ADAM-4561-CE/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduhMyuR96x%252bdp4DnBDFhtESzKcpNyIUxvYPu1PngEfDtkA%3d%3d

 I thought maybe someone would have a suggestion?  Might the mesa smart
 serial RS-422 be able to work someway?

A lot of modbus devices will accept RS232.  I run modbus from LinuxCNC 
to a couple of VFDs over USB-to-RS232 adapters, inexpensive  works great.


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Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread Belli Button
All good suggestions, if I get one of the GUi's figured out I guess I could 
make a button that automatically did an MDI 'SXXX M3' when pressed. 



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Sent: 01 April 2015 18:39
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

On 1 April 2015 at 16:09, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
 it
 would be kind of nice if clicking F9 again would start the spindle at 
 the last speed, but I can see there is a safety issue there.

I can see an argument for an extra HAL pin… motion.spindle-speed-persistent

As we already have 4 separate spindle speed outputs this might be getting a bit 
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Re: [Emc-users] Mesa cards visual documentation

2015-04-01 Thread Jeremy Jones
I took the picture in the manual of my 7i76 and laminated it. Then as I
hooked stuff up I sharpied on there each pin and stuck it in with the
machine. This way I know what's what moving forward.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 5:58 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 1 April 2015 at 21:39, Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote:
  Is there any more visual documentation available for mesa cards than
  main manual?

 You mean more detailed than 7i77man.pdf ?

 With many of the Mesa cards the HAL pin names that correspond to
 physical pins are governed by the firmware. This is less the case with
 the 7i77, though you can alter a few things with the software modes.

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Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 04/01/2015 09:09 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
 On 04/01/2015 07:19 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 1 April 2015 at 12:32, Belli Button be...@iafrica.com wrote:
 When I stop a program, LCNC sends my spindle speed to zero
 I think that is normal (and standard).

 It is the way my system works, too.  it is annoying.  If 
 doing stuff manually, I start the spindle
 with MDI M03 S2720 or something, then stop it with F9.  If I 
 hit F9 again, the relay to start the spindle is turned on, 
 but the speed is set to 0.  Kind of annoying, but safer.  it 
 would be kind of nice if clicking F9 again would start the 
 spindle at the last speed, but I can see there is a safety 
 issue there.

I played around a bit with this tonight.

I never noticed any funny business before because i don't have speed
feedback from my spindle, i manually set the speed using a mechanical
transmission and LinuxCNC just turns it on and off at that speed,
totally ignoring the S-word and motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps.

In 2.6 (v2.6.7-14-gde51d6b), sim/axis/axis.ini, with the spindle off, i
can use MDI to program S1000, and it shows up in the Active G-Codes.  If
i then program M3 i get the commanded 1000 rpm speed, as expected (as
indicated by motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps).

If i use F9 to turn the spindle on, it turns the spindle on at 200 RPM
(or at whatever [DISPLAY]DEFAULT_SPINDLE_SPEED says, presumably),
independent of what the programmed S-word says.

If i'm running a program, clicking the Stop button (or hitting the
Escape key) stops motion and the spindle, which is good and right.  F9
starts the spindle a [DISPLAY]DEFAULT_SPINDLE_SPEED, and M3 starts the
spindle at the programmed S-word speed.


2.7 (v2.7.0-pre5-28-gb1c6283) behaves the same way, so that's good.


So i think the only wonky thing here is that F9 doesn't use the
programmed S-word.  I think F9 should start the spindle at the
programmed S-word if there is one, and default back to
[DISPLAY]DEFAULT_SPINDLE_SPEED only if there is *no* programmed S-word.

Does that sound like reasonable behavior?


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Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread Belli Button
I'm not sure that this is safer, starting the spindle implies that it will
speed up, starting the job with no spindle is messier...



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Sent: 01 April 2015 17:10
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

On 04/01/2015 07:19 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 1 April 2015 at 12:32, Belli Button be...@iafrica.com wrote:
 When I stop a program, LCNC sends my spindle speed to zero
 I think that is normal (and standard).

It is the way my system works, too.  it is annoying.  If doing stuff
manually, I start the spindle with MDI M03 S2720 or something, then stop it
with F9.  If I hit F9 again, the relay to start the spindle is turned on,
but the speed is set to 0.  Kind of annoying, but safer.  it would be kind
of nice if clicking F9 again would start the spindle at the last speed, but
I can see there is a safety issue there.

Jon


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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread Todd Zuercher
I have a gang router running Linuxcnc and controlling 8 VFDs through one 
USB-RS485 and the generic Mb2hal driver.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 5:11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

I do believe that you can use LCNC with a usb to RS485 converter and the
Modbus protocol by ClassicLadder softplc built into LCNC or the mb2hal
component.

Alex
Il giorno 01/apr/2015 23:04, Mark Johnsen m...@ijohnsen.com ha scritto:

 Alex,

 Yes, the application is industrial grade, but it is quite simple (2 axes of
 motion).  I only need 1 modbus network to two temp controllers.  Since
 there are 2, that rules out '1' RS-232 network, but I can use '1' RS-485
 network.  Or Seb's USB setup would work.

 I did see on the mesa site the 7I34 8 channel RS-422/485 interface for
 Anything I/O.  I would think that would work.

 Your comment about industrial grade is my concern about using LinuxCNC at
 all.  I figure I can try it and if I run into issues I can slap in a brick
 PLC (omron, panasonic, etc) w/ some option cards, but that is much more
 expensive and less flexible in the long run.  I look at LinuxCNC w/ so much
 potential and it combines the control and HMI into one piece.  I realize it
 is not a traditional industrial control solution.  If you think I'm crazy
 for doing this, let me know now...


 

 SEB - I can embrace USB.  I just thought that was looked down upon due to
 the lack of real-time nature of USB ports?   Although, I don't really need
 real-time here for temp control.  Just updating and current temp feedback.

 I think for the price of the mesa board, that seems like a good option and
 more trustworthy than the Amazon USB part. Just my 2 cents..

 Thanks all for your feedback,
 Mark

 Hi Mark .
 Be careful with this kind of adapters because they are not optocoupled .
 If your application is an industrial grade I will spend some more money and
 buy something like the Advantech converter/adapter you linked above.
 Do you really need to have two separate Modbus network ?

 Alex

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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread Mark Johnsen
I got , but I had to reply, edit the subject and then delete all the
text I didn't want.  I suppose I could have copied it as well.  Unless
it's easy, this is better than I had...

Thanks.



 On 1 April 2015 at 17:26, Mark Johnsen m...@ijohnsen.com wrote:
 PS - what reader do you use for this mailing list to get the  inserted?
 I simply have been using gmail and recall posts a long time ago on better
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 Click in the message you want to reply to so that a blue bar appears
 next to the sender image.

I looked all around for a blue bar and didn't see that nor a sender
image?  I'm using gmail for Apps and I have 'categories' turned on.
Maybe something different in the setup.

 Then select the text you want to include.
 The press the reply button, or if you have enabled keyboard short-cuts
 press the A key (reply All) or R key (Reply)

I couldn't easily get out the

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 Message: 6
 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 19:59:53 -0400
 From: Jeremy Jones sp01jjo...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Mesa cards visual documentation
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 I took the picture in the manual of my 7i76 and laminated it. Then as I
 hooked stuff up I sharpied on there each pin and stuck it in with the
 machine. This way I know what's what moving forward.

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 5:58 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 1 April 2015 at 21:39, Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote:
  Is there any more visual documentation available for mesa cards than
  main manual?

 You mean more detailed than 7i77man.pdf ?

 With many of the Mesa cards the HAL pin names that correspond to
 physical pins are governed by the firmware. This is less the case with
 the 7i77, though you can alter a few things with the software modes.

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 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 23:10:46 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Todd  Zuercher zuerc...@embarqmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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 I have a gang router running Linuxcnc and controlling 8 VFDs through one 
 USB-RS485 and the generic Mb2hal driver.

 - Original Message -
 From: alex chiosso achio...@gmail.com
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 5:11:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

 I do believe that you can use LCNC with a usb to RS485 converter and the
 Modbus protocol by ClassicLadder softplc built into LCNC or the mb2hal
 component.

 Alex
 Il giorno 01/apr/2015 23:04, Mark Johnsen m...@ijohnsen.com ha scritto:

 Alex,

 Yes, the application is industrial grade, but it is quite simple (2 axes of
 motion).  I only need 1 modbus network to two temp controllers.  Since
 there are 2, that rules out '1' RS-232 network, but I can use '1' RS-485
 network.  Or Seb's USB setup would work.

 I did see on the mesa site the 7I34 8 channel RS-422/485 interface for
 Anything I/O.  I would think that would work.

 Your comment about industrial grade is my concern about using LinuxCNC at
 all.  I figure I can try it and if I run into issues I can slap in a brick
 PLC (omron, panasonic, etc) w/ some option cards, but that is much more
 expensive and less flexible in the long run.  I look at LinuxCNC w/ so much
 potential and it combines the control and HMI into one piece.  I realize it
 is not a traditional industrial control solution.  If you think I'm crazy
 for doing this, let me know now...


 

Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread Wesley Moore
Mark,

Not sure if this helps or not.  But for various control systems I use Moxa 
device servers for Ethernet to RS232/422/485.  I talk to them over TCP/IP, but 
it can give you a simple telnet port to the device on the other end.  

http://www.moxa.com/Serial_Connectivity/Index.aspx

Wesley

- Original Message -
 From: Mark Johnsen m...@ijohnsen.com
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 12:05:54 PM
 Subject: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

 I'm looking at controlling a X-Z gantry system w/ LinuxCNC (well really HAL
 and some code).  Operator pushes a button and the gantry moves between two
 baths, waiting for pre-set seconds per bath.  The positions are set and do
 not change.
 
 I was thinking of using a Mesa 5i25-7i76 combo and maybe a 7i32 1.5/3Amp or
 another off-the-shelf stepper driver.  There's no-magic needed for this.  I
 need some I/O for limits, home, inputs, outputs, etc.  I realize the 7i76
 is overkill for axis count, but I might want to expand to 4 axes later.
 
 I would take one of the GUI interfaces (touchy or axis, etc) and make my
 own suitable interface (easier said than done, possibly).
 
 The bath has a Love temp controller (16A2133-996) that can communicate
 Modbus RS-485.  The 7i76 has RS-422 serial and the PC would have a RS-232
 port.  What's the best way to get to RS-485?  I could use a RS-232 to
 RS-485 converter like this one from advantech:
 http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Advantech/ADAM-4561-CE/?qs=%2fha2pyFaduhMyuR96x%252bdp4DnBDFhtESzKcpNyIUxvYPu1PngEfDtkA%3d%3d
 
 I thought maybe someone would have a suggestion?  Might the mesa smart
 serial RS-422 be able to work someway?
 
 Regards,
 Mark
 
 PS.  Considering my monitor turning off issues (previous posts), I'm second
 guessing using LinuxCNC/hal for this, but I'm a glutton for punishment..
 You just can't beat the price/feature linuxCNC.
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Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread Belli Button
All good suggestions, if I get one of the GUi's figured out I guess I could 
make a button that automatically did an MDI 'SXXX M3' when pressed. 



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Sent: 01 April 2015 18:39
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

On 1 April 2015 at 16:09, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
 it
 would be kind of nice if clicking F9 again would start the spindle at 
 the last speed, but I can see there is a safety issue there.

I can see an argument for an extra HAL pin… motion.spindle-speed-persistent

As we already have 4 separate spindle speed outputs this might be getting a bit 
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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 4/1/15 10:26 AM, Mark Johnsen wrote:
 The love controller has a -995 option, which is RS232.  But, there are 2
 controllers and there's no addressing for the rs-232 version from what I
 saw.  I thought maybe you could daisy chain them, but seems you can only
 address the RS-485 version.

Right, RS232 is point-to-point, with no good options for multi-point 
expansion.

Once you embrace USB you could get a $10 USB hub and two USB-toRS232 
adapters.

Or possibly something like this could work (i have no experience with 
it): 
http://www.amazon.com/KEDSUM%C2%AE-Converter-Adapter-ch340T-Support/dp/B009SIDMNM


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 I simply have been using gmail and recall posts a long time ago on better
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 reader will keep the posts in one thread.

I use Thunderbird (called icedove on debian).


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Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 April 2015 at 16:09, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
 it
 would be kind of nice if clicking F9 again would start the
 spindle at the last speed, but I can see there is a safety
 issue there.

I can see an argument for an extra HAL pin… motion.spindle-speed-persistent

As we already have 4 separate spindle speed outputs this might be
getting a bit over-complicated though.

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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread alex chiosso
Hi Mark .
Be careful with this kind of adapters because they are not optocoupled .
If your application is an industrial grade I will spend some more money and
buy something like the Advantech converter/adapter you linked above.
Do you really need to have two separate Modbus network ?

Alex

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote:

 On 4/1/15 10:26 AM, Mark Johnsen wrote:
  The love controller has a -995 option, which is RS232.  But, there are 2
  controllers and there's no addressing for the rs-232 version from what I
  saw.  I thought maybe you could daisy chain them, but seems you can only
  address the RS-485 version.

 Right, RS232 is point-to-point, with no good options for multi-point
 expansion.

 Once you embrace USB you could get a $10 USB hub and two USB-toRS232
 adapters.

 Or possibly something like this could work (i have no experience with
 it):

 http://www.amazon.com/KEDSUM%C2%AE-Converter-Adapter-ch340T-Support/dp/B009SIDMNM


  PS - what reader do you use for this mailing list to get the 
 inserted?
  I simply have been using gmail and recall posts a long time ago on better
  readers, but I couldn't find it when I searched?  Also, I think one of
 the
  reader will keep the posts in one thread.

 I use Thunderbird (called icedove on debian).


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Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread Belli Button
All good suggestions, if I get one of the GUi's figured out I guess I could 
make a button that automatically did an MDI 'SXXX M3' when pressed. 



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Sent: 01 April 2015 18:39
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

On 1 April 2015 at 16:09, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
 it
 would be kind of nice if clicking F9 again would start the spindle at 
 the last speed, but I can see there is a safety issue there.

I can see an argument for an extra HAL pin… motion.spindle-speed-persistent

As we already have 4 separate spindle speed outputs this might be getting a bit 
over-complicated though.

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Re: [Emc-users] Mesa cards visual documentation

2015-04-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 April 2015 at 21:39, Marius Alksnys marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there any more visual documentation available for mesa cards than
 main manual?

You mean more detailed than 7i77man.pdf ?

With many of the Mesa cards the HAL pin names that correspond to
physical pins are governed by the firmware. This is less the case with
the 7i77, though you can alter a few things with the software modes.

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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 April 2015 at 17:26, Mark Johnsen m...@ijohnsen.com wrote:
 PS - what reader do you use for this mailing list to get the  inserted?
 I simply have been using gmail and recall posts a long time ago on better
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Click in the message you want to reply to so that a blue bar appears
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Then select the text you want to include.
The press the reply button, or if you have enabled keyboard short-cuts
press the A key (reply All) or R key (Reply)
Then in the bottom left corner of the reply pane drop-down the little
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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread alex chiosso
I do believe that you can use LCNC with a usb to RS485 converter and the
Modbus protocol by ClassicLadder softplc built into LCNC or the mb2hal
component.

Alex
Il giorno 01/apr/2015 23:04, Mark Johnsen m...@ijohnsen.com ha scritto:

 Alex,

 Yes, the application is industrial grade, but it is quite simple (2 axes of
 motion).  I only need 1 modbus network to two temp controllers.  Since
 there are 2, that rules out '1' RS-232 network, but I can use '1' RS-485
 network.  Or Seb's USB setup would work.

 I did see on the mesa site the 7I34 8 channel RS-422/485 interface for
 Anything I/O.  I would think that would work.

 Your comment about industrial grade is my concern about using LinuxCNC at
 all.  I figure I can try it and if I run into issues I can slap in a brick
 PLC (omron, panasonic, etc) w/ some option cards, but that is much more
 expensive and less flexible in the long run.  I look at LinuxCNC w/ so much
 potential and it combines the control and HMI into one piece.  I realize it
 is not a traditional industrial control solution.  If you think I'm crazy
 for doing this, let me know now...


 

 SEB - I can embrace USB.  I just thought that was looked down upon due to
 the lack of real-time nature of USB ports?   Although, I don't really need
 real-time here for temp control.  Just updating and current temp feedback.

 I think for the price of the mesa board, that seems like a good option and
 more trustworthy than the Amazon USB part. Just my 2 cents..

 Thanks all for your feedback,
 Mark

 Hi Mark .
 Be careful with this kind of adapters because they are not optocoupled .
 If your application is an industrial grade I will spend some more money and
 buy something like the Advantech converter/adapter you linked above.
 Do you really need to have two separate Modbus network ?

 Alex

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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread Mark Johnsen
Seb,

I had that graphic taped up on the wall at my last job:-)  Never did use
it, but thought it was cool.

Anyway, after looking at it again, none of the standard I/O outside of
limits and motor control is real-time, so I guess it doesn't matter...

Thanks,
Mark


===

It is true that USB is not realtime.

Check out this diagram (it's only slightly out of date):

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/code/Code_Notes.html#_architecture_overview

Notice at the bottom there are both realtime hardware devices and
non-realtime hardware devices.  Modbus generally falls into the
non-realtime category, so it isn't hurt by USB's lack of realtime.


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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 4/1/15 3:11 PM, alex chiosso wrote:
 I do believe that you can use LCNC with a usb to RS485 converter and the
 Modbus protocol by ClassicLadder softplc built into LCNC or the mb2hal
 component.

I agree.

We also have drivers for a couple of VFDs that use modbus:

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man1/gs2.1.html
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/wj200_vfd.9.html
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man1/vfs11_vfd.1.html
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man1/vfdb_vfd.1.html


(Huh, it's funny that the wj200 manpage is in section 9, but all the 
others are in section 1.  We are nothing if not inconsistent.  And 
confusing.)


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Re: [Emc-users] LCNC sends Spindle to zero speed on stop.

2015-04-01 Thread Ricardo Moscoloni
in master theres a line to set initial spindle speed in the .ini file.
but would be great if it remember the last S command, anyone?
regards
rick


2015-04-01 12:09 GMT-03:00 Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com:

 On 04/01/2015 07:19 AM, andy pugh wrote:
  On 1 April 2015 at 12:32, Belli Button be...@iafrica.com wrote:
  When I stop a program, LCNC sends my spindle speed to zero
  I think that is normal (and standard).
 
 It is the way my system works, too.  it is annoying.  If
 doing stuff manually, I start the spindle
 with MDI M03 S2720 or something, then stop it with F9.  If I
 hit F9 again, the relay to start the spindle is turned on,
 but the speed is set to 0.  Kind of annoying, but safer.  it
 would be kind of nice if clicking F9 again would start the
 spindle at the last speed, but I can see there is a safety
 issue there.

 Jon


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Re: [Emc-users] Mesa cards visual documentation

2015-04-01 Thread Andreas Pettersson
Been looking for that for a while now - the included documentation is 
not really that comprehensible. Figured out more by looking at pictures 
of others wiring and forums than from the PDF.
If you make one, make sure to post it. =)

Marius Alksnys skrev den 2015-04-01 22:39:
 Is there any more visual documentation available for mesa cards than
 main manual?
 I mean a board view with pinout, preferably with schematic internal
 component types.. like most servo drives have wiring schematics on their
 manuals..
 Now 7i77 is actual for me.

 If not, I am thinking about making one, at least something simple, one
 page, like spreadsheet with real connector layout and pin names...


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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread Mark Johnsen
Alex,

Yes, the application is industrial grade, but it is quite simple (2 axes of
motion).  I only need 1 modbus network to two temp controllers.  Since
there are 2, that rules out '1' RS-232 network, but I can use '1' RS-485
network.  Or Seb's USB setup would work.

I did see on the mesa site the 7I34 8 channel RS-422/485 interface for
Anything I/O.  I would think that would work.

Your comment about industrial grade is my concern about using LinuxCNC at
all.  I figure I can try it and if I run into issues I can slap in a brick
PLC (omron, panasonic, etc) w/ some option cards, but that is much more
expensive and less flexible in the long run.  I look at LinuxCNC w/ so much
potential and it combines the control and HMI into one piece.  I realize it
is not a traditional industrial control solution.  If you think I'm crazy
for doing this, let me know now...



SEB - I can embrace USB.  I just thought that was looked down upon due to
the lack of real-time nature of USB ports?   Although, I don't really need
real-time here for temp control.  Just updating and current temp feedback.

I think for the price of the mesa board, that seems like a good option and
more trustworthy than the Amazon USB part. Just my 2 cents..

Thanks all for your feedback,
Mark

Hi Mark .
Be careful with this kind of adapters because they are not optocoupled .
If your application is an industrial grade I will spend some more money and
buy something like the Advantech converter/adapter you linked above.
Do you really need to have two separate Modbus network ?

Alex
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Re: [Emc-users] Modbus RS-485 Connection with Mesa?

2015-04-01 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 4/1/15 3:03 PM, Mark Johnsen wrote:
 SEB - I can embrace USB.  I just thought that was looked down upon due to
 the lack of real-time nature of USB ports?   Although, I don't really need
 real-time here for temp control.  Just updating and current temp feedback.

It is true that USB is not realtime.

Check out this diagram (it's only slightly out of date):

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/code/Code_Notes.html#_architecture_overview

Notice at the bottom there are both realtime hardware devices and 
non-realtime hardware devices.  Modbus generally falls into the 
non-realtime category, so it isn't hurt by USB's lack of realtime.


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[Emc-users] Mesa cards visual documentation

2015-04-01 Thread Marius Alksnys
Is there any more visual documentation available for mesa cards than 
main manual?
I mean a board view with pinout, preferably with schematic internal 
component types.. like most servo drives have wiring schematics on their 
manuals..
Now 7i77 is actual for me.

If not, I am thinking about making one, at least something simple, one 
page, like spreadsheet with real connector layout and pin names...


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