[Emc-users] Test
Hi All Just trying to figure out why my emails don't show up. -- Ethan Vos Cutting Edge CNC 339 Fairway Garden Newmarket, Ontario L3X 1B4 416-457-9119 www.cuttingedgecnc.weebly.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Advice needed
Hello all I have an old beam saw that I need to replace the control on. It's all digital IO. Would LinuxCNC be a good idea for this running as a PLC? I was thinking of using this as a text to get to learn LinuxCNC for when I need to do a CNC router. If this will work, where do I start? -- Ethan Vos Cutting Edge CNC 339 Fairway Garden Newmarket, Ontario L3X 1B4 416-457-9119 www.cuttingedgecnc.weebly.com -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] CNC Remote
Hi, We are a tiny french company working with CNC machines managed by … LinuxCNC of course ! ;-) For our internal needs, we developed an iOS app to be able to control basic LinuxCNC functions remotely from iPhones and iPads. Recently, We decided to make it available to others and it is now distributed on appStore. As this is not our core business, we sell it for the lowest possible price to give us the ability to make it evolve and to be reactive in bug corrections ($9.99 or 8€99 with lifetime updates included). Application is available in French and in English but, for the moment, the tutorial is only available in French (we work on an english translation). If you are interested, you can go to http://www.matyfabrik.com/cnc-remote-ios-linuxcnc/ or if you want an automatically translated version : http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?ei=UTF-8fr=bf-badgea=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.matyfabrik.com%2Fcnc-remote-ios-linuxcnc%2Flp=fr_ensubmit=Traduite As we work a lot with free software and we did not want to pollute this list with commercial ads, we sent a first mail to EMC Board of Directors and they told us to send this mail to let you make your own opinion. If you use our software, do not hesitate to contact us for any issue or suggestion (via our website forms or directly via c...@matyfabrik.com). We always do our best to help you and to quickly correct bugs. This software is a way for us to give back something to LinuxCNC. We hope this software will be useful to some of you, Bye Mathieu -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Suitable touchscreen?
Any links for opportunities to purchase the screens that are used on saws? Jim -Original Message- From: Jon Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:58 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Suitable touchscreen? Caner wrote: Hi, Which is the best choice of touchscreen for industrial usage? There are several kinds of vandal-proof, water-proof, dust-proof SAW screens, also different which technology is more useful such as surface acoustic wave, resistive or infrared? Infrared has very low resolution. No mouse-like action, you have a coarse pixel at the intersection of every V and H beam of light. So, the number of pixels is the number of H sensors x the number of V sensors. Resistive requires a pair of plastic resistive sheets that are held apart by a small air gap. When you press, you touch the sheets together, the resistive layers allow the circuits to measure where the touch is. These sheets can be damaged or just wear out. The SAW screens have a glass plate, so it is quite tough. Jon -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] schematics
Hi Stuart, If it is permissible to offer a Windows based solution I would suggest EasyCAD. It really is a very easy to use 2D drafting program that I have used for years for mechanical drawings, electrical schematics, etc. Low cost ($295.00) and very good support. If I was sitting next to you showing you how to use it you would be reasonably proficient in 15 - 30 minutes. Without help it might take you 45 - 60 minutes to be up and running. It really is easy. Here is the link: http://www.fastcad.com/infoec7.php. Like most programs a free demo is available for download. My thanks to the replies that provided the Linux based options. I am interested in trying them and comparing them to the Windows based products I currently use. Have a good day, Jim -Original Message- From: Stuart Stevenson [mailto:stus...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:57 AM To: EMC2-Users-List Subject: [Emc-users] schematics Gentlemen, I would like to find software to create/document schematics for my machines. I would like to have symbols and features to place where needed. Is there anything out there? Sorry if this has been addressed before. Free is good but it doesn't have to be free - just not many thousands of dollars. thanks Stuart -- dos centavos -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Encoder resolution Following Error
Hi Neil, Encoder resolution is one of several factors that affect following error. Following error is the difference between the commanded movement and the actual movement. A movement command is a combination of actual physical movement occuring a particular rate. Encoder resolution, servo amplifier response, motor response, mechanical systems response, etc. all add up to some lag because these different systems cannot respond instantaneously to the control command. I don't have a formula for calculating this. It's stupid not to ask questions. Questions in and of themselves are not stupid. I've been laughed at more than a few times because of the questions I have asked. After the laughter died down and I received an answer I was a smarter man. Have a good day, Jim Fleig CNC Services - Original Message - From: Neil Baylis neil.bay...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 12:41 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Encoder resolution Following Error I hope this isn't a really stupid question, but what's the relationship between encoder resolution and following error? For example, the machine I'm building currently has a linear encoder of 250 cycles per inch, or 1000 counts. I assume this won't allow me to achieve 0.001 following error. And I understand FE is also affected by machine rigidity, encoder noise, and other factors. Is there a formula that would tell me what FE would be reasonably achievable with my machine? If I install an encoder with double the resolution, will that cut my FE in half? Neil -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
Hi Neil, Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes open (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit switch contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed stop functioning. Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I will send you an example. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: Neil Baylis neil.bay...@gmail.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, obviously. Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? Thanks, Neil Baylis -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
Hi Neil, I believe Eric is correct. After 30 years in industry (the last 20 specifically with CNC) I have never seen what you are describing. As Eric mentioned, a relay that must be activated by a reset switch would do the job. Reset switches for this purpose I have seen and included in some of the retrofits that I have done. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: Eric Keller keller...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch My guess is that a switch with an actuator in it would be so expensive that nobody has ever bothered to market one. I think your best bet is to have a self-powering relay that can only be turned on by a momentary switch. Eric On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Neil Baylis neil.bay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jim, I understand how to set up such a failsafe circuit. But in addition, I want the actual e-stop switch to activate and latch, so that regardless of whether the computer generates a fault condition, or I do it myself, I still have to manually release the switch before resuming operation. Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services j...@cncservices.ws wrote: Hi Neil, Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes open (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit switch contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed stop functioning. Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I will send you an example. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: Neil Baylis neil.bay...@gmail.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, obviously. Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? Thanks, Neil Baylis -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- http://www.pixpopuli.com -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https
Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch
Hi Neil, That is easy doable by adding contacts on the E stop switch and creating the logic to achieve the effect you desire. Jim - Original Message - From: Neil Baylis neil.bay...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch OK, thanks. I guess they don't exist. I guess what I'll do is to add a circuit that requires the e-stop button to be pressed before a fault condition can be cleared. Then I have no choice but to twist the e-stop before resuming. Thanks, Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services j...@cncservices.ws wrote: Hi Neil, I believe Eric is correct. After 30 years in industry (the last 20 specifically with CNC) I have never seen what you are describing. As Eric mentioned, a relay that must be activated by a reset switch would do the job. Reset switches for this purpose I have seen and included in some of the retrofits that I have done. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: Eric Keller keller...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch My guess is that a switch with an actuator in it would be so expensive that nobody has ever bothered to market one. I think your best bet is to have a self-powering relay that can only be turned on by a momentary switch. Eric On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Neil Baylis neil.bay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jim, I understand how to set up such a failsafe circuit. But in addition, I want the actual e-stop switch to activate and latch, so that regardless of whether the computer generates a fault condition, or I do it myself, I still have to manually release the switch before resuming operation. Neil On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services j...@cncservices.ws wrote: Hi Neil, Setup a failsafe circuit with the connection passing through the E-stop contacts energizing a relay. If anything in the series circuit becomes open (E-stop button, relay contacts in E-stop circuit, overtravel limit switch contacts, etc.) the functions dependant upon that circuit being closed stop functioning. Someone may have a schematic example to share. If not, email me and I will send you an example. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: Neil Baylis neil.bay...@gmail.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Emergency Stop switch I'm looking to source an e-stop switch. I have some already with the big red mushroom button that latches when you press it, and must be turned to release. This is good. But what I want is a switch that can also be operated by a signal from the computer. So if the computer detects an e-stop condition, the mushroom button would pop down, just as if I had pressed it by hand. I would drive it from a digital out, obviously. Does such a thing exist, and can anyone point me at a source? Thanks, Neil Baylis -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- http://www.pixpopuli.com -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel
Re: [Emc-users] Clever ways to mount the 5I20 I/O boards to a 35 mm dinrail?
Hi Dave, Will this DIN rail plate help? http://www.fruitridgetools.com/storefrontprofiles/processfeed.aspx?sfid=1367 63i=238072491mpid=8171dfid=1 Here's other options: http://www.winfordeng.com/products/dinm15.php http://www.cadlow.com/images/productimages/din%20rail%20circuit%20board%20su pports.jpg, http://www.cadlow.com/htm/plastic.htm (go to bottom of page) http://www.gaurang.com/pdf/DIN%20Rail%20PCB%20Holders.pdf Please provide some feedback if you try something above and it works well. Have a good day, Jim -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:e...@dc9.tzo.com] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 8:00 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] Clever ways to mount the 5I20 I/O boards to a 35 mm dinrail? Do you guys have any clever ways to mount Mesa 5I20 I/O boards to a 35 mm din rail? I have some plastic din rail clips from Winford, but the holes don't line up. Before I reinvent the wheel, I want to make sure I am not overlooking an easy solutions. Thanks, Dave -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] gCAD3D [Was: Re: Cloud computing CADCAM]
To take pictures of very small items I have found that a common magnifying lens (mine is approximately 2 in OD, 1/4 in thick, concave) held in front of the camera lens provides clear pictures. This has worked well with my digital camera and my PDA camera. This should fit the two fundamental criteria of this forum: it works and its very inexpensive! Hope this helps, Jim (snip) I'll see what I can do tomorrow Erik. As I'm not yet 100% with my new Nikon camera, getting the closeups might be fun. The maximum dimension is maybe 3.5cm. Its basically 2 coaxial pipes, with the main air flow coming out between the OD of the smaller one, and the ID of the larger one. The diff is 1/64th inch so it isn't a very big 'leak'. And unless I can find some stronger hose, limited to about 60-70 psi. Clear vinyl isn't a high pressure hose. (snip) -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Question about using a rotary table
2 cents FWIW The capability and openness of EMC impressed me when I was first introduced to it and I am still impressed. I will be preparing a large knee mill retrofit quote with an Ajax system for a customer because, like Stuart, I don't have the means to 'enhance' the software and I cannot support the software. To whomever has the intelligence, training and time, there may be others beside myself that would be willing to pay for software enhancements and support. For my own sake I do not expect the cost and effort of a supplier to be available to me for free. I suppose the difference for me is that I want to implement this in industry for profit (not software sales, Linux and EMC are free, service sales for integrating the software and hardware to CNC machines). In the areas where I have intelligence and training businesses pay for my time. I would expect to pay for the services of others. Was that worth 2 cents? I greatly admire all the software development to date and expect to be impressed with the improvements that are sure to come. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Question about using a rotary table Gentlemen, Catering to ALL is what open source is all about. You can have whatever you want (and can implement). In my case I am unable (intelligence, training and time issues) to implement everything I want. I must 'make my case' and hope someone with the capability will 'Enhance' the software. :) I agree wholeheartedly with the concept of having 'everything for everyone'. This project is absolutely incredible in that regard. thanks Stuart -- you can lead a person to knowledge but you cannot make him think -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning--plot request (commercial use of EMC)
Steve's comments below are right on target with my commercial customers responses. As I am not a programmer, I have much admiration for everything that EMC can do currently and the programmmers that made it happen. I look forward to the features mentioned below. Is it to early for Christmas wish lists? :-) Jim - Original Message - From: Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 5:35 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning--plot request On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:54:35 +0200, you wrote: *snip* The inability to feed hold and do other thing like, stop spindle, jog away to clear chips, or change an insert and re zero tool and then just press cycle start and continue are a show stopper. I've spoken to many business associates over the last few months and every one said they would not consider a control system without this. *snip*. Steve Blackmore -- -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] [OT] LeBlond Regal 18 x 54 NC lathe, excellent retrofit candidate.
A LeBlond Regal 18 in swing x 54 in centers NC lathe is available. This lathe is in good mechanical condition. It is located in Utica, NY. It can be loaded onto truck or trailer by the business where it is located. This can be prepared to ship by common carrier. Pictures available if interested. Contact me off list. jim(at)cncservices.ws Have a good day, Jim Fleig CNC Services 585 554-4981 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] OT LeBlond Regal 18 x 54 NC lathe, excellent retrofit candidate.
A LeBlond Regal 18 in swing x 54 in centers NC lathe is available. This lathe is in good mechanical condition. It is located in Utica, NY. It can be loaded onto truck or trailer by the business where it is located. This can be prepared to ship by common carrier. Pictures available if interested. Contact me off list. jim(at)cncservices.ws Have a good day, Jim Fleig CNC Services 585 554-4981 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] EMC2 with AXIS as pure simulator on Ubuntu 9.04
Hi,
If I got it right, I can use the emc2-sim without the rtai-modules installed,
right?
I want to use the simulator with axis for previewing on a normal computer.
I built the simulator from the emc2.3.1-tarball with '--run-in-place' and
'--enable-simulator'.
Now I am able to run emc with tkemc or xemc, but fail to start it with axis.
Does anyone know why axis doesn't start / what the log tries to tell me / how
to get more information out of axis?
I didn't find information on that.
Attached: STDOUT and emc_print.txt (dmesg has no info)
Best Regards
Martin
LOG with DEBUG = 0x7FFF:
--
EMC2 - 2.3.1
Machine configuration directory is
'/home/martin/tmp/emc2-dev/emc2-2.3.1/configs/sim'
Machine configuration file is 'martin.ini'
Starting EMC2...
(time=1246566480.076370,pid=15656): Registering server on TCP port 5005.
(time=1246566480.076623,pid=15656): running server for TCP port 5005
(connection_socket = 3).
iocontrol: machine: 'EMC-HAL-SIM-AXIS' version '1.6'
task: machine: 'EMC-HAL-SIM-AXIS' version '1.6'
NML_INTERP_LIST::append(nml_msg{size=24,type=222}) : list_size=1, line_number = 0
NML_INTERP_LIST::append(nml_msg{size=84,type=224}) : list_size=2, line_number = 0
emcTaskInit: adding user-defined function ../../nc_files//M101
NML_INTERP_LIST::append(nml_msg{size=24,type=222}) : list_size=2, line_number = 0
NML_INTERP_LIST::append(nml_msg{size=84,type=224}) : list_size=3, line_number = 0
Issuing EMC_TASK_PLAN_SYNCH -- (+516,+12,+0,)
emcTaskPlanSynch() returned 0
Issuing EMC_TRAJ_SET_TERM_COND -- (+222,+24,+0,+2,0.00,)
Issuing EMC_TRAJ_SET_ORIGIN -- (+224,+84,
+0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,)
Issuing EMC_TASK_PLAN_SET_BLOCK_DELETE -- (+518,+16,+1,\001,)
Issuing EMC_TASK_PLAN_SET_OPTIONAL_STOP -- (+517,+16,+2,\001,)
alloc: invalid block: 0xb7b1a5dc: 0 0 0
/home/martin/tmp/emc2-dev/emc2-2.3.1/scripts/emc: line 637: 15687 Aborted
$EMCDISPLAY -ini $INIFILE $EMCDISPLAYARGS $EXTRA_ARGS
Shutting down and cleaning up EMC2...
- - - snip - - -
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emc_print.txt:
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RUN_IN_PLACE=yes
EMC2_DIR=
EMC2_BIN_DIR=/home/martin/tmp/emc2-dev/emc2-2.3.1/bin
EMC2_TCL_DIR=/home/martin/tmp/emc2-dev/emc2-2.3.1/tcl
EMC2_SCRIPT_DIR=
EMC2_RTLIB_DIR=/home/martin/tmp/emc2-dev/emc2-2.3.1/rtlib
EMC2_CONFIG_DIR=
EMC2_LANG_DIR=/home/martin/tmp/emc2-dev/emc2-2.3.1/src/po
INIVAR=inivar
HALCMD=halcmd
EMC2_EMCSH=emcsh
EMC2_IOSH=iosh
INIFILE=/home/martin/tmp/emc2-dev/emc2-2.3.1/configs/sim/martin.ini
PARAMETER_FILE=sim_mm.var
EMCMOT=motmod
EMCIO=io
TASK=milltask
HALUI=halui
DISPLAY=axis
NML_FILE=emc.nml
Starting EMC2 server program: emcsvr
Loading Real Time OS, RTAPI, and HAL_LIB modules
Starting EMC2 IO program: io
Starting HAL User Interface program: halui
Starting EMC2 TASK program: milltask
Starting EMC2 DISPLAY program: axis
Killing task emcsvr, PID=15656
Killing task milltask, PID=15686
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Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Harddrive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages
with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages Jim, MachineA - machine the CD will boot on MachineB - machine you are trying to load the software on This may seem redundant but since the CD will boot MachineA and you can see the hard drive on MachineB you are trying to load the software on you should be able to boot MachineB from the CD and run Ubuntu/EMC. The install is usually simple from there. Will MachineB boot (any operating system) from the CD? Stuart On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services j...@cncservices.ws wrote: Hi Stuart, All of the CD's that have been burned with my Windows desktop using InfraRecorder will boot the desktop tower and run fine. Per one suggestion I burned CD's at different speeds but this did not make a difference. With help from Przemek, using hal91 the hard drive was partitioned. Now fdisk -l Enter displays: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1027. This is larger than 1024, and may cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software form other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1027 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootBeginStart End Blocks Id System /dev/hda11 1 1027 8249346 83 Linux native hdc : tray open or drive not ready hdc : tray open or drive not ready hdc : tray open end request: I/O error, dev 16:00, sector 0 [hal91 -=- /] _ and dmesg | grep hdc Enter displays: hdc: ATAPI CD ROM DRIVE 50X MAX, ATAPI CDROM drive hdc : tray open or drive not ready hdc : tray open or drive not ready hdc : tray open [hal91 -=- /] _ Are there other commands that would provide useful information? Thanks for your questions and advice. Hopefully this is closer to working. Have a good night, Jim -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem Boot accomplished with hal91 Linux bootable floppy
The tower has booted! Thank you for all of the replies. I read (but did not understand) all of them. It seemed to make sense to me to focus on trying to boot with a floppy because the DBAN floppy would boot every time. It took a long time to find and then a couple of attempts to get hal91 to write to a floppy correctly. If this would be helpful to anyone else, hal91 is available here: http://jspiro.tripod.com/linux/hal91.htm. I'm almost (skip the almost, I am) afraid to do anything next. Now that hal91 is up and running there is a fdisk command available. I have looked this up on the internet and I do not understand all that I am reading. I have partitioned hard drives for Windows based CNC control systems with instructions from the manufacturer. This was successful because of the specific instructions. I did not interpret generic commands and decide how to partition the drive. Right now I am not even sure if fdisk is the next thing to do. Is there a command to check the hard drive? Are there commands for checking the other parts of the system? CD drive, motherboard, RAM, etc.? If there are commands for making these checks and all of the checks pass would fdisk be the next thing to do? Thanks again for all the replies. I look forward to the next instructions and hopefully the next step of progress to be up and running again. Have a good day, Jim Fleig -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem CD's are bootable Hard drive partitioned with hal91 fdisk -l and dmesg | grep hdc messages
Hi Stuart, All of the CD's that have been burned with my Windows desktop using InfraRecorder will boot the desktop tower and run fine. Per one suggestion I burned CD's at different speeds but this did not make a difference. With help from Przemek, using hal91 the hard drive was partitioned. Now fdisk -l Enter displays: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1027. This is larger than 1024, and may cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software form other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1027 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootBeginStart End Blocks Id System /dev/hda11 1 1027 8249346 83 Linux native hdc : tray open or drive not ready hdc : tray open or drive not ready hdc : tray open end request: I/O error, dev 16:00, sector 0 [hal91 -=- /] _ and dmesg | grep hdc Enter displays: hdc: ATAPI CD ROM DRIVE 50X MAX, ATAPI CDROM drive hdc : tray open or drive not ready hdc : tray open or drive not ready hdc : tray open [hal91 -=- /] _ Are there other commands that would provide useful information? Thanks for your questions and advice. Hopefully this is closer to working. Have a good night, Jim - Original Message - From: Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem Boot accomplished withhal91 Linux bootable floppy Jim, Have you booted the CD in another computer? If not, you need to be able to boot the CD. When you are able to boot the CD then the installation process will identify the hard drive and partition it for you. It will do an automatically generated configuration or you can do a manual configuration. The automatically generated configuration will work for you. If the CD will boot in another computer you need to look at the motherboard, bios, and the CD reader in the computer you are having trouble with. If the CD will not boot in another computer you need to make another CD and be sure you write a bootable image. You will probably need to specifically instruct the CD writing software to make it write a bootable image. HTH Stuart On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services j...@cncservices.ws wrote: The tower has booted! Thank you for all of the replies. I read (but did not understand) all of them. It seemed to make sense to me to focus on trying to boot with a floppy because the DBAN floppy would boot every time. It took a long time to find and then a couple of attempts to get hal91 to write to a floppy correctly. If this would be helpful to anyone else, hal91 is available here: http://jspiro.tripod.com/linux/hal91.htm. I'm almost (skip the almost, I am) afraid to do anything next. Now that hal91 is up and running there is a fdisk command available. I have looked this up on the internet and I do not understand all that I am reading. I have partitioned hard drives for Windows based CNC control systems with instructions from the manufacturer. This was successful because of the specific instructions. I did not interpret generic commands and decide how to partition the drive. Right now I am not even sure if fdisk is the next thing to do. Is there a command to check the hard drive? Are there commands for checking the other parts of the system? CD drive, motherboard, RAM, etc.? If there are commands for making these checks and all of the checks pass would fdisk be the next thing to do? Thanks again for all the replies. I look forward to the next instructions and hopefully the next step of progress to be up and running again. Have a good day, Jim Fleig -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- you can lead a person to knowledge but you cannot make him think -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Incorporation Donation [Was: Re: What's coming in manufacturing]
Steve, The following comment from your email states my sentiments very well. I don't think that paid programming prevents volunteer work. What I don't think I want to see is a corporate entity that thinks it should direct volunteers to do things they don't want to do, and doesn't accept things the volunteers actually do. That would certainly reduce community participation and would be a detriment to the project. - Steve To all: We all know there are corporate entities that are bullies. Although they receive little or no press, there are corporate entities that are very careful about what they do and how they go about doing it. I hope that my email would be viewed in the later category because I am not willing to take my customers money without knowing I can adequately support their needs. Doug, others and myself are not seeking ownership or control. We have a business sense of financial fair play that causes us to want to give when we receive. I certainly have a business sense of financial fair play that causes me to want to receive when I give! Shouldn't the reverse be true? If the future provides opportunity for commercial contributions to this volunteer project, as a commercial contributor I would like to be viewed favorably by the volunteers. Have a good day, Jim Fleig -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] What's coming in manufacturing
Hi Steve, Thank you for reading my long email. I didn't know how to convey the information with fewer words. It looks like you had the same challenge below. :-) I couldn't agree more with this statement from your email: I think you need to hire someone to do the software related tech work if you want to use EMC2 in your business. My efforts (plenty of hours, phone calls, emails, etc.) have yet to yield a quote from a programmer who has a working knowledge of Linux and EMC (or is willing to learn EMC). If you know of someone who actually has the capabilities and will define their expectations for providing their services I would be very interested in contacting them. Although I am US based, as long as the programmer can speak (or type) English understandably then the programmer could be anywhere. I agree with your comment below that creating an organization is easy to say and presents many questions and challenges to actually do it. Thanks again (to everybody who stayed awake) for reading my long email and your thoughtful response. Have a good day, Jim Fleig PS (My attempt to replace a previous version of Ubuntu with 8.04 has resulted in the following error message: Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk and Press Enter. Prior to installing the 8.04 version the hard drive was scrubbed with DBAN. I have tried several things that I found on the internet (more than a few people have had the same problem) but have yet to solve the problem. It seems that the hard drive needs to be formatted. I have tried to find a format utility that will fit on a floppy. The computer will still boot from the floppy. I haven't been able to find that utility yet. This is where I so often find myself. The computer will not work and I spend hours wrestling with the computer instead of doing whatever it was I wanted to do with the computer. This is where I need tech support.) - Original Message - From: Stephen Wille Padnos spad...@sover.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] What's coming in manufacturing Hi Jim I was going through your (long :) ) list of points, responding to each one, when I realized that all my responses point to the same conclusion. I think you need to hire someone to do the software related tech work if you want to use EMC2 in your business. You could of course contract someone to provide tech support, with whatever response / resolution times make you comfortable. You could instead choose to pay for software licenses, maintenance, and support contracts from well-known vendors. The money part is a relatively simple calculation. The confidence part is a bit more nebulous. I think there's some confusion between having a central entity that manages money and having individuals accept money for working on EMC2. I don't think anyone has any issues with individuals doing work on EMC2 and getting paid for it. Several of us have done this in the past, including me. There is no reason why you can't hire any programmer off the street to make your GUI happen, or to do anything else you want to have done. Now let's look at an EMC corporate entity. I'll assume that there are several people like you out there - people who would donate because they like the software, hire people to do maintenance and feature additions, tech support, etc. If there aren't any donors, there's no need for an entity to manage donations :) If we create a non-profit, there are massive IRS reporting requirements. The entity would most likely need to hire an accountant. (I believe there are quarterly reports, similar to 941 tax filings for corporations, in addition to forms and records showing where every penny goes, and justifying that there really is no profit to be taxed) There needs to be someone who will decide how non-earmarked donations get distributed. Which feature requests get acted upon, and in what order. We're talking about a project manager. A project manager with no programmer-employees (most likely), and only volunteers to get things done, kind of like it is now. Even with a non-profit, we're into a political arena. Who decides what will be done, by whom, and at what price? Who decides who that decider will be? Should the board, or a different group elected by mailing list members get to decide? Should it only be people who have donated? Pro-rated based on donation size? There is significant work that has already gone into EMC2 - should some of the money allocated to one feature be given to the people who made the foundation on which the new code rests? A for-profit company could be started by someone. It wouldn't be the community though. It would be someone who decides they want to sell support and customization services for EMC2. That company/person would have
Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem
Hi Ian,
Thank you for the reply.
The boot sequence was set to CDROM, A, C.
I downloaded Ranish, unzipped and copied to a floppy. The boot sequence was
changed to A, C, SCSI (no A, C, CDROM choice). When the computer is turned
on the boot screen lists Pri. Master Disk: LBA, UDMA 66, 8455MB, Pri. Slave
Disk: None, Sec. Master Disk: None, Sec. Slave Disk: CDROM, UDMA 33. Now
the error displayed is: Non-System disk or disk error Replace and strike any
key when ready.
What next?
I look forward to your reply.
Have a good day,
Cheers,
Jim
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From: Ian Wright watchm...@fastmail.fm
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:13 PM
Subject: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem
Jim Fleig wrote:PS (My attempt to replace a previous
version of Ubuntu with 8.04 has resulted in the following
error message: Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk and
Press Enter. Prior to installing the 8.04 version the hard
drive was scrubbed with DBAN. I have tried several things
that I found on the internet (more than a few people have
had the same problem) but have yet to solve the problem. It
seems that the hard drive needs to be formatted. I have
tried to find a format utility that will fit on a floppy.
The computer will still boot from the floppy. I haven't
been able to find that utility yet. This is where I so
often find myself. The computer will not work and I spend
hours wrestling with the computer instead of doing whatever
it was I wanted to do with the computer. This is where I
need tech support.)
Hi Jim,
Have you made the computer boot from a CD - this would be
your best option to start with. As the machine boots up,
look on the first screens for an instruction how to get into
the BIOS - probably F2. Find the part which deals with Boot
options ('advanced' tab probably) and set the first boot
option to CD = you can make the first hard drive the second
boot option. Now if you boot the computer from the Ubuntu
CD, this should deal with all the partitioning and
formatting of the hard drive as it installs the product. If
this isn't possible, then you need to look for a partition
manager such as Partition Magic or Ranish.
Best wishes,
Ian
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Sheffield UK
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Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem
Hi Rafael, I agree that this is not EMC specific. My thanks for all the suggestions to resolve the problem. If anyone has additional troubleshooting tips please send email directly to j...@cncservices.ws. I respect the focus of the EMC forum. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: Rafael Skodlar ra...@linwin.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linux installation problem Jim, this is way beyond EMC support ... You need seek help for BASIC PC setup elsewhere. However Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Hi Ian, Thank you for the reply. The boot sequence was set to CDROM, A, C. I downloaded Ranish, unzipped and copied to a floppy. The boot sequence was changed to A, C, SCSI (no A, C, CDROM choice). When the computer is turned change the BIOS to show other devices than SCSI unless your system has a real SCSI. If so then you need to setup BIOS extension in SCSI controller. This is going way beyond this mailing list issues. on the boot screen lists Pri. Master Disk: LBA, UDMA 66, 8455MB, Pri. Slave Disk: None, Sec. Master Disk: None, Sec. Slave Disk: CDROM, UDMA 33. Now that's your problem. CD drive has to be set as a secondary master in order for PC to bootup from CD. Check BIOS setup, CD drive jumpers and it's cable. the error displayed is: Non-System disk or disk error Replace and strike any key when ready. What next? I look forward to your reply. Have a good day, Cheers, Jim -- Rafael -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk and Press Enter
Hi Rafael, Thank you for the reply. Setting the BIOS to Auto was tried and did not resolve the problem. The computer will still boot from the DBAN floppy. DBAN is Darik's Boot and Nuke (http://www.dban.org/) for cleaning hard drives. Everything about the computer should be working well. Prior to trying to update the computer was running the previous version of Ubuntu with EMC just fine. It also would boot from the CD drive with the 8.04 Ubuntu with EMC CD. I remembered erasing the hard drive before installing the previous version of EMC. Since this worked the last time I repeated the process. This computer is very clean. Looks nearly brand new. Examination of the CD drive (I removed it and took the cover off) revealed one very small dust ball which I removed carefully with a paint brush. After reinstallation, same problem. No obvious problems with caps on the motherboard. I'd be willing to try more things. What should be done next? Jim - Original Message - From: Rafael Skodlar ra...@linwin.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] What's coming in manufacturing Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Hi Steve, Thank you for reading my long email. I didn't know how to convey the information with fewer words. It looks like you had the same challenge below. :-) .. Jim Fleig PS (My attempt to replace a previous version of Ubuntu with 8.04 has resulted in the following error message: Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk and Press Enter. Prior to installing the 8.04 version the hard drive was scrubbed with DBAN. I have tried several things that I I don't know what DBAN is nor is it important. It is possible, but I haven't seen it yet, that there is a program that would interact with disk drive microcontroller and mess with low level data on the drive (ZBR info for example) or the firmware itself to make it unusable for security reasons. I doubt that's worthwhile as a simple hammer will do it. Erased disk drives or not, installation program will simply write new data after you tell it to do so. It doesn't matter what you used to delete previous information. found on the internet (more than a few people have had the same problem) but have yet to solve the problem. It seems that the hard drive needs to You are confusing two types of formatting, high and low level. Note that low level formating is no longer needed in modern drives. be formatted. I have tried to find a format utility that will fit on a floppy. The computer will still boot from the floppy. I haven't been able to find that utility yet. This is where I so often find myself. The Either you have a 20 years old drive, have a bad drive, or are doing something that's completely unnecessary. It is possible you have hard drive configured as a slave instead of master which could cause boot up problems. Make sure: - your BIOS is configured correctly (auto), - that the battery for BIOS data is good to keep the config between power cycles, - that cable connectors are inserted properly in correct IDE port and no pins are bent, - check power supply (voltage) - say a prayer - whatever else I forgot Forget about floppies. They should die 10 years ago since the industry failed to accept 120MB and 256MB upgraded ones. computer will not work and I spend hours wrestling with the computer instead of doing whatever it was I wanted to do with the computer. This is where I need tech support.) I can only support in SF Bay Area unless you buy me a ticket to fly out there :-) I think it would be less expensive to buy a new drive and MOBO if that's a problem. Note that some new motherboards come with bad caps. Caps let the smoke out in a year or two and the PC behaves weird, keeps rebooting. Bad caps are easy to detect, they are not flat on top. Unfortunately you can't tell that before they go bad. Jim, your email needs to wrap at about 75 characters so that we can comment your messages appropriately. Not sure what this has to do with the subject line in the first place. Folks, it's very difficult to search for subject in messages when the subject line and thread number have nothing to do with it. Don't simply hit a reply to some message and then change everything to start a new subject. Good luck, -- Rafael -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] What's coming in manufacturing
is being attached to the mill (technical support for other systems appreciates my contact and questions because I am very detailed, very focused, I do not call technical support with general questions, I call with a very narrow focus and many details related to the issue) assist after the retrofit is complete by - responding to technical support questions to advise the question has been received (should not be more than 24 hours, ideally would be 2 hours or less) - responding to the technical support question with a solution or an estimate of the time it will take to determine the solution (24 to 48 hours) - advising if it would be helpful to update the software running the machine or remain at the current version level, if the machine computer is connected to the internet then possibly doing a software update remotely - having the programming ability to resolve bugs, add features, etc. as the customer's use of the machine causes some things to be noticed or wanted assist in the overall process by - defining expectations for the delivery of requested tasks, cost for those tasks to be completed and terms for payment Note: If a problem was solved by the collaboration of several individuals from the EMC forum and none of the individuals involved wanted direct payment I would be willing to make a payment to an EMC fund, the Ubuntu fund or wherever the individuals might direct the payment. I am not comfortable receiving contributions (programming, computer build advice, etc.) that enable me to receive compensation from my customers and then keeping all the compensation. That would bug my business conscience. Suppliers that enable me to receive compensation from my customers deserve to receive a portion of the compensation. I would not necessarily care where the compensation payment went (EMC, annual EMC event, Ubuntu, Wikipedia, etc.). I would just want to make the payment. Like Doug, I would want to give back because I had received. These are the major points. If I am forgetting anything, it is minor. My thanks to Ray H., Matt S., Steve S., others who have taken time to explain various things about EMC and Linux and whoever was the individual that was so patient assisting me to get my first computer running with Ubuntu and EMC that discovered the problem preventing the correct execution of commands was my lack of knowledge that Unix based systems are case sensitive. All you programmers enjoy your amusement. :-) Does it make sense now that I need technical support? :-) My thanks to Paul C. who has patiently answered questions that went unanswered on the forum about Linux and EMC in terminology that a non-programmer can understand. I own a knee mill that could be retrofit with EMC. The mill is identical to the mill that Chris H. retrofit. It is a Hurco KM3P. Chris H. can run EMC with the current GUI. If I retrofit my mill for my use I can run with the current GUI. I would like to retrofit this mill and sell it. The current GUI's are not suitable for this. It also could be done with Ajax (Centroid in pieces, http://www.ajaxcnc.com/). The Centroid system is very reliable and technical support is available. For me, this system is the bench mark for comparison with an EMC system. In the same shop where my mill is located the owner's have a knee mill that they have offered me $5000.00 to retrofit. They have been very patiently waiting while I have been trying to find an individual(s) to do the items discussed above so that both of these mills could be retrofit with EMC. Well, Stuart, if you bothered to read all of this I think that you can appreciate as a business owner why I haven't stepped out with EMC. You do not do all the functions of your business. Your business relies on the knowledge, skill and experience of many people. Some of those people are key to the operation of your business. If they did not show for work, your business would limp very badly or not function at all. In order for my efforts with EMC to be successful, I must have an individual involved with my business who will address the software and computer hardware side of the system. Thanks for asking the question. Have a good day, Jim Fleig CNC Services - Original Message - From: Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] What's coming in manufacturing why could you 'not go commercial'? On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services j...@cncservices.ws wrote: Prior to Doug offering to donate to EMC's development, I have made the same offer. Kirk correctly comments that this was not received enthusiastically. Why not? (Gentle Why not?) Cars are manufactured for commercial sale and the number of car hobbyists and tinkerers is huge! What is missing in my perspective? It would seem to me that thankful
Re: [Emc-users] What's coming in manufacturing
Hi Stuart, After reading that email would you be willing to be a reference for me to the support persons that may consider working with me that I am very detailed? :-) Jim - Original Message - From: Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] What's coming in manufacturing Jim, WHEW - Well, JIM, I did read to the end :) thanks for the explanation now we have a better target thanks Stuart On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services j...@cncservices.ws wrote: Hi Stuart, Here's the short answer: a programmer that can make changes (like a different GUI) for a retrofit, an individual that can either supply a computer or guide the selection and assembly of a computer and techinical support of the software and computer after the retrofit. Here's the long answer: I can do anything (not just bragging, its true - see www.cncservices.ws) with machine tools (rebuild, retrofit, align, calibrate (laser and level for 6 axes of movement linear, pitch, yaw and roll around the X,Y and Z axes, spatial positioning measurement and compensation, 4th and 5th axis measurement and compensation), G code programming, troubleshooting (electrical, electronic, hydraulic, mechanical, pneumatic, etc.), communication (DNC, wired and wireless), scrapping, etc., etc.) except electronic board repair and software troubleshooting. When troubleshooting a machine if I can prove that the machine is functioning correctly and I can demonstrate that the software is not issuing commands correctly to the machine then the problem is in the software or the hardware that runs the software. With adequate technical support I can address these problems also. Many of these problems I can address myself if a parameter needs to be changed (all of the controls that I have worked on so far are parameter based, Fanuc, Yasnac(Yaskawa), Mitsubishi, Centroid, etc.). On more than one control I have replaced a hard drive, partitioned the hard drive, reloaded software, configured the software for the mill and got the mill up and running again with technical support. In one of these situations I had to get the machine connected to the customers network so that parameters could be downloaded from the control to the customers office computer. With instructions I set up a network connection (I am a computer user, not a computer technician). I am willing to tackle that which I do not know (and do not have the time to learn, I just can't duplicate others knowledge and experience in many areas) if there is adequate technical support to address the problem. I am not comfortable supplying a control system to a customer that does not have adequate technical support because the customer's machine could be down because I am unable to address a certain issue and unable to get the answer for the issue from technical support. My customers trust that whatever I do for them will enable them to make parts and if the making of parts is interrupted that I will be able to get them back up and running promptly. In my ideal world paid technical support would: assist in the retrofit process by - being a programmer that is comfortable with me not becoming a programmer - being a programmer that is comfortable with me being the onsite hands while they are the brain guiding the hands (technical support) - being a Linux enthusiast that will interact with the Windows world (all of my customers front offices are Windows based) without bashing Windows or Bill Gates in front of the customer (the machine control almost always have to be networked with the customers office computers for the transfer of programs) - having the programming ability to create a different GUI for EMC that would be more industry standard (I have designed this GUI, it just needs to be programmed) - having the programming ability and the people skills to talk me or a customer through entering software commands and reporting results so that issue of the moment can be identified and resolved - an alternative to the previous step would be a direct connection via the internet to the machine tool control so that the programmer could remotely evaluate the computer note: I am willing to travel to be onsite whenever onsite activity needs to occur, the programmer would not be required to travel - having the programming ability to make changes as needed so that EMC will function externally in a more industry standard manner (Ray H. generously took time from his very busy schedule to educate me about the momentary contact nature of the inputs to EMC because of the perspective when EMC was first created that there may be more than one control station on a single machine, apparently some of this could be accomplished through the ladder
Re: [Emc-users] What's coming in manufacturing
Prior to Doug offering to donate to EMC's development, I have made the same offer. Kirk correctly comments that this was not received enthusiastically. Why not? (Gentle Why not?) Cars are manufactured for commercial sale and the number of car hobbyists and tinkerers is huge! What is missing in my perspective? It would seem to me that thankful commercial ventures like Doug, others and myself making contributions would enable EMC to organize and fund events, pay for web server time (I have to pay for my website to be on the internet), perhaps forward a percentage of the donations received by EMC to the Linux development, etc. Wouldn't the hobbyist and the tinkerer benefit from the advancements that may be driven by commercial need and commercial contribution to enable the need being met? Any comments Ray H., Steve S.? Jim PS (Comments above are my thoughts. I'm not mad at anybody and I am not seeking to stir the pot. Just sharing my 2 cents and am interested in others perspective on this issue. I actually have turned down retrofit work due to the lack of ability to go commercial with this software. That was disappointing.) - Original Message - From: Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] What's coming in manufacturing On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 13:14 -0400, Doug Pollard wrote: I am am almost 75 years old and some kind of excited about this new industrial revolution that is creeping up on us all. ... snip Wouldn't it be something if free software changed the economy of the whole world?? I find this really exciting stuff and it seems it may go as far as you can imagine. Doug I agree that the potential is there, but at this point it is hard to see where this potential will go. The subject of donations to EMC2 has come up before, and it was not received enthusiastically. I think that most of the developers feel that this is a pastime, and bringing money into the mix would diminish the fun. I am very curious about what could be done with EMC2 (and some sort of CAM) if a more commercial approach where pursued. This may be an indication that open source software and free software are are can be very different ideas. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html California, USA -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: High Quality Requirements in a Collaborative Environment. Download a free trial of Rational Requirements Composer Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-ibm-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. Register today. Use priority code J9JMT32. http://p.sf.net/sfu/p ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Tape to ASCII
Hi Kirk, Sometimes the control is happier with : at the beginning of the program instead of %. Also, the program name usually needs to be O (letter o) _ _ _ _ (four numbers, example: 0001, 2389, etc., 8000 and 9000 series numbers are sometimes locked out by parameter so that machine tool builder programs can reside in that area without risk of being changed by the operator). If you contact RYM, they are very friendly and helpful. They know that everyone that 30 day trials their software doesn't buy but questions answered during that 30 day trial help them to make an impression that will get their name passed along until they do make a sale. I am sure they have connected to many of these Yasnac controls and will probably know the answer reasonably quickly. From my communications with machine controls experience, it is always easier to download from the machine control than to upload to the machine control. This link has helpful information about tracking communication signals. http://www.conserver.com/consoles/Tracers/tracers.html It is possible that the outbound portion of the communication circuit is working and the inbound portion of the communication circuit is not working. If you would rather buy a signal tracker than make one, RYM can sell you one. You'll get it, I'm sure. Have a good day, Jim Fleig - Original Message - From: Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT: Tape to ASCII On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 09:07 -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: Please let me know if this is too far off topic. I have a friend with a couple of 80's vintage Mori Seiki's and a Matsuura, all with Yasnac controls. He wants to move g-code files through the serial ports with a laptop. I made a cable, set the serial port parameters and was able to get characters to a terminal emulator on the laptop. The problem is that some of the characters are not presented on the screen properly. My guess is that what is coming across is a tape code and the terminal needs ASCII. Is my guess correct? Will I need to buy BTR software or is there another way to save and load g-code through the controller serial ports? Kirk http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ I tried the RYM.com demo with Jim's cheat sheet, and right away, I was able to move a file from the Yasnac to my laptop. There where a couple items from the cheat sheet that I didn't understand, so I was not able to move a file form the laptop to the Yasnac, but I think with a little bit of study, this should work also. I noticed that one of the settings was to set the Yasnac to send ASCII, so I tried putty.exe again, and no joy. Then I remembered Hyperterminal and tried that, which worked for download also. So something about putty.exe doesn't like the Yasnac data. For upload I just need to work out which characters are need, % at the beginning and end, and/or ; between lines. Kirk http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Tape to ASCII
Hi Kirk, A very helpful company for assistance with machine control to computer communication is Refresh Your Memory. www.rym.com Available on the website is the following information: sample configuration for Refresh Your Memory, Inc.Yasnac MX1/LX1 Place the machine in MDI mode. Set the thumbwheel switch by the tape reader to 1 (parameter write enable). To change a parameter, press the PRM key. Find the parameter to be changed using the line and page cursor arrows. Press INSERT. Cursor to the desired bit, then press WR(ite) to change. Press INSERT to return. Set: MILLS: 6000 to 1xxx (ISO code) LATHES: 6002 to 1xxx (ISO code) 6003 to 00011x01 (RS232, port 1, CRLF) 6022 to xx00 (parity enabled) 6026-6029 to xx001001 (DC codes, 1 stop bit, 4800 baud) Remember to set the parameter write enable thumbwheel to 0 when done.CNC SettingsBaud: 4800 Code: 7 data bits / ASCII Even Stop Bits: 1 EOB: CR/LF Handshaking: XON/XOFF ADVANCED Leader: %CRLF Trailer: % Skip lines which contain: %PC SettingsProgram Identifier String: O Program Identifier String 2: : (colon)Settings for PC-DNC plus users onlyTo output a program, set the CNC to Edit mode, then press the PROG key. Bring the program to be transmitted up on screen by typing in O then pressing the cursor (line) down arrow. Now press MEM DATA (OUT). To input a program, set the CNC to Edit mode, then press the PROG key. Make sure the data-write-protect key is set such that editing is allowed. Now press MEM DATA (IN). To view a list of programs in memory, press the ALM key and page down as necessary. If the control on your friend's control is a different model, let me know. Have a good day, Jim Fleig - Original Message - From: Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: [Emc-users] OT: Tape to ASCII Please let me know if this is too far off topic. I have a friend with a couple of 80's vintage Mori Seiki's and a Matsuura, all with Yasnac controls. He wants to move g-code files through the serial ports with a laptop. I made a cable, set the serial port parameters and was able to get characters to a terminal emulator on the laptop. The problem is that some of the characters are not presented on the screen properly. My guess is that what is coming across is a tape code and the terminal needs ASCII. Is my guess correct? Will I need to buy BTR software or is there another way to save and load g-code through the controller serial ports? Kirk http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-usersCrystalImageHandler.aspx?dynamicimage=cr_tmp_image_55ecc202-b545-4e1f-bb45-d26e9f607709.png-- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT: Tape to ASCII
Hi Kirk, I copied and pasted a configuration setup from www.rym.com and all that came through was the logo. If you go to RYM's website, select support, select the CNC control type, there will be setup instructions and parameter instructions. A copy of RYM's software can be downloaded and used for thirty days. This may help to troubleshoot the communication issue. Have a good day, Jim Fleig - Original Message - From: Drew Rogge d...@dasrogges.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT: Tape to ASCII Could it be that you need to mask the parity bit off of the tape input? Is there any way you can tell what characters aren't be properly presented? Kirk Wallace wrote: Please let me know if this is too far off topic. I have a friend with a couple of 80's vintage Mori Seiki's and a Matsuura, all with Yasnac controls. He wants to move g-code files through the serial ports with a laptop. I made a cable, set the serial port parameters and was able to get characters to a terminal emulator on the laptop. The problem is that some of the characters are not presented on the screen properly. My guess is that what is coming across is a tape code and the terminal needs ASCII. Is my guess correct? Will I need to buy BTR software or is there another way to save and load g-code through the controller serial ports? Kirk http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] BIG CNC machine for making small airplane?
Hi Peter, A previously asked question is very important: how many axes? 3 X, Y, Z? 4 X, Y, Z, A? If the A axis is the rotation of the part along the X axis that would actually be reasonably doable because the A movement could be the rotation of the table supporting the part. More than 4 axes gets complicated to engineer, expensive to build and challenging to program. A gantry design (spindle moves, table is stationary) would seem to be the logical choice for this project. It is quite possible that this machine could be built so that it can be disassembled. The locations where the machine is supported would need to be very rigid so that when the machine was assembled it could be anchored to these points and the anchoring would provide stability to the frame. Proper anchoring and triangles, triangles, triangles in the design will provide a structure that will make it possible to achieve the + / - 1 mm and probably better (depending on how fast the cutting process occurs). Is there a budget in mind for this project? I wish you success, Jim Fleig - Original Message - From: Peter Braroe peter.bra...@newsmachine.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:13 AM Subject: [Emc-users] BIG CNC machine for making small airplane? Hello all! Here are some thoughts: Precision Actually airplanes are a big like boats, not very precise. Consider a bunch of aluminum panels put together by hand with rivets, or wood spars with cloth covering. I fly two different Cessna 172s and they are supposed to be identical but have very different feel to them. I think +/-1 mm or worse would be fine. Probably 1 mm per meter of range would be OK too, especially if any error is symmetrical. Look at a 10 meter long wooden airplane from the 1930s - they fly fine - and I would be very surprised if they had millimeter precision! Dimensions The wing isn't very thick - perhaps only 4 inches or so. A bit more if it is to be done in one block with the dihedral i.e. the vee-in-the-middle. The fuselage would be no more than 1,5-2 meters from the lowest point to highest. Less if the empennage (i.e. tail feathers) would be made separately. If one wing where to be made at the time they would be 5,5 meters each, and the fuselage would be maybe 8 meters - less since the engine cowling would be made separate. Assembly from smaller parts This is of course an option - but wouldn't it be nice to just put a big block up and have instant airplane! Just add the skin. but I agree that it's probably wiser to calm down a little and limit the size to say 6 x 1,6 x 1,6 meters or so. Even that is of course massive! Then one could do one wing at the time and then the fuselage. I am thinking perhaps assembling a frame from scaffolding tubing - then it can be disassembled too! The main thing I am thinking about is how to make something work over such a long distance as 6 meters. Perhaps a linear motor and a bicycle chain(s) with a tensioner could be used for the long axis? Those parts are plentiful! How to make an accurate sensor is then the question. Although if a beefy stepper operates the chain cog and an initial calibration is performed then perhaps that is good enough. Has anyone attempted something like this before? Ideas? Perhaps I will try to build something smaller first and experiment! Best regards, everyone! /Peter -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Joint errors when trying to run EMC2 from Live CD with files created by step config wizard.
The live CD works very well. My thanks again for the help that enabled me to get the CD working. I have done file searches trying to find the files used for tkemc so that I might copy them and try to modify them. I cannot find them. ??? So I figured I would get started by generating a stepper configuration with the wizard. The attached files were generated and joint errors display when the E-Stop is turned off (F1) and the steppers are enabled (F2). What am I doing or not doing? Can I create a servo file with the live CD and run it just for practise? I look forward to your replies. Have a good day, Jim tool.tbl Description: Binary data CNCS-3-axes-stepper.stepconf Description: Binary data CNCS-3-axes-stepper.hal Description: Binary data CNCS-3-axes-stepper.ini Description: Binary data custom.hal Description: Binary data custom_postgui.hal Description: Binary data emc.nml Description: Binary data emc.var Description: Binary data emc.var.bak Description: Binary data README Description: Binary data -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] CAN-Bus drivers
FWIW I cannot speak to the issue of Bosch having proprietary rights to CAN-BUS communication. I have seen CAN-BUS used on many machine tools that did not have any Bosch software (that I know of) or hardware (I definitely know there was no Bosch hardware). It was my impression that CAN-BUS was a form of communication (like RS232, network, etc.) that could be implemented and used by whomever understood how to set it up. More information about CAN-BUS here: http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_CAN.html. If there are legal issues related to the use of CAN-BUS systems this is certainly a consideration concerning EMC's open source status. Is it possible that there is a particular flavor of CAN-BUS developed by Bosch that is their proprietary system? Jim Fleig - Original Message - From: Eric Taada eta...@gmail.com To: EMC2 List Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: [Emc-users] CAN-Bus drivers CAN-BUS is proprietary to Bosch and may conflict with EMC's open source principals. It is found in many vehicles both on land and sea including BMW motorcycles since 2004. There would be a wealth of hardware options available to the folks who develop the drivers. -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] I was able to boot from the CD, thanks for all the information.
Hi Steve, Thank you for the reply and answers. Questions inserted into your reply below. Jim - Original Message - From: Stephen Wille Padnos spad...@sover.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I was able to boot from the CD, thanks for all the information. Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Many thanks for all the information. Is it possible to create a configuration and make a CD to demonstrate how a machine would function if retrofit with EMC? You can't save a configuration to the CD, I'm not arguing. This is a sincere question. If a CD is a R/W CD, would it be possible to erase some of the applications that are not needed for EMC like Games? Would it be possible to erase configuration files that are not needed and write a configuration to a R/W CD? but if you have a USB memory I do. stick, you can make a copy of a config Does EMC have to be installed to create a config or can this be done while using the CD? (in your home directory, which will be in ramdisk), I don't understand the statement about home directory and ramdisk. This is what I think I know: computer turns on, bios in a prom on the motherboard has a limited set of instructions that the computer follows to locate the OS that will run the computer, OS is found and takes over computer operation (example: XP). When the OS is up and running, then other programs can be selected which have commands of their own to use computer resources while the OS oversees all of the currently running programs. When a computer boots and the bios sees that there is a source of OS in the CD drive or on a USB channel, it allows that OS to run. Here is where it gets fuzzy for me. While running the Ubuntu CD it was possible to open the Word Processor application. If a document was created while that application was open would it be possible to save the document? If yes, where? If the CD being used were a R/W CD then it would make sense to me (although it might not actually work) that the created document could be saved on the CD. It doesn't make sense to me (keep in mind that I don't know what I'm talking about, I'm just sharing my impression) that created data could be saved using the hard drive, a USB memory stick, a floppy drive (yes, I have one plugged into a USB port for old stuff I have to reference occassionally) or a second R/W CD drive. This doesn't make sense to me because I don't understand how the OS running on the CD would have the drivers to manage the USB ports, other CD drives, etc. then copy that to the USB stick. Later, when you go to do the demo, you can boot from liveCD, and copy the config back to your ramdisk home directory and select it from the config picker. Once I understand the directions above this will probably be as simple for me as the file copy and paste that I do so often now. At the moment, I don't understand the statement above. What is the ramdisk home directory? There are other ways to do this which are more transparent (things written to the file system automatically end up on the USB stick), but that's a bit harder to set up and is probably not needed for this purpose. - Steve Thank you for all of the explanation above. Ideally (I don't know if this is possible) it would be possible to send someone a CD, they would boot from the CD, EMC would auto load, they would be able to follow hardcopy instructions that came with the CD and perform manual and MDI functions and load a program and run it with EMC. Am I dreaming? If no, what is needed to make this happen? Thanks again for all of the answers. This is an area where I obviously am uneducated but willing to learn. :-) -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list
[Emc-users] Thanks, Gene, for the helpful explanation about CD's. More questions, of course.
Hi Gene, Thank you for the helpful explanation about CD's. I do not understand the process that created the file I downloaded and processed to have the bootable CD. Some process created the .iso file and the accompanying procedure that makes it possible to use it. Could a process create a bootable CD that would automatically default to EMC and a particular configuration? I look forward to your reply. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I was able to boot from the CD, thanks for all the information. On Wednesday 04 February 2009, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: One subject clarified at the bottom. Hi Steve, Thank you for the reply and answers. Questions inserted into your reply below. Jim - Original Message - From: Stephen Wille Padnos spad...@sover.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I was able to boot from the CD, thanks for all the information. Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Many thanks for all the information. Is it possible to create a configuration and make a CD to demonstrate how a machine would function if retrofit with EMC? You can't save a configuration to the CD, I'm not arguing. This is a sincere question. If a CD is a R/W CD, would it be possible to erase some of the applications that are not needed for EMC like Games? Would it be possible to erase configuration files that are not needed and write a configuration to a R/W CD? but if you have a USB memory I do. stick, you can make a copy of a config Does EMC have to be installed to create a config or can this be done while using the CD? (in your home directory, which will be in ramdisk), I don't understand the statement about home directory and ramdisk. This is what I think I know: computer turns on, bios in a prom on the motherboard has a limited set of instructions that the computer follows to locate the OS that will run the computer, OS is found and takes over computer operation (example: XP). When the OS is up and running, then other programs can be selected which have commands of their own to use computer resources while the OS oversees all of the currently running programs. When a computer boots and the bios sees that there is a source of OS in the CD drive or on a USB channel, it allows that OS to run. Here is where it gets fuzzy for me. While running the Ubuntu CD it was possible to open the Word Processor application. If a document was created while that application was open would it be possible to save the document? If yes, where? If the CD being used were a R/W CD then it would make sense to me (although it might not actually work) that the created document could be saved on the CD. It doesn't make sense to me (keep in mind that I don't know what I'm talking about, I'm just sharing my impression) that created data could be saved using the hard drive, a USB memory stick, a floppy drive (yes, I have one plugged into a USB port for old stuff I have to reference occassionally) or a second R/W CD drive. This doesn't make sense to me because I don't understand how the OS running on the CD would have the drivers to manage the USB ports, other CD drives, etc. then copy that to the USB stick. Later, when you go to do the demo, you can boot from liveCD, and copy the config back to your ramdisk home directory and select it from the config picker. Once I understand the directions above this will probably be as simple for me as the file copy and paste that I do so often now. At the moment, I don't understand the statement above. What is the ramdisk home directory? There are other ways to do this which are more transparent (things written to the file system automatically end up on the USB stick), but that's a bit harder to set up and is probably not needed for this purpose. - Steve Thank you for all of the explanation above. Ideally (I don't know if this is possible) it would be possible to send someone a CD, they would boot from the CD, EMC would auto load, they would be able to follow hardcopy instructions that came with the CD and perform manual and MDI functions and load a program and run it with EMC. Am I dreaming? If no, what is needed to make this happen? Thanks again for all of the answers. This is an area where I obviously am uneducated but willing to learn. :-) Jim; It appears you see the RW marker on the CD as indicating it is capable of a random access rewrite. They are not. Yes, the whole cd can be re-written, but not a single file in some random location. This is why you will need to mount the usb stick and save the generated data there, then take both the cd and the usb stick to the next machine, or to reboot and restore
[Emc-users] Thanks for the explanation Steve, I'm learning .....
Hi Steve, I have read your replies and am digesting. I will have to reread and digest some more and try the action items mentioned below. I also have to work, so this will have to wait a little while . :-) Thanks again, Jim - Original Message - From: Stephen Wille Padnos spad...@sover.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] I was able to boot from the CD, thanks for all the information. Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: Hi Steve, Thank you for the reply and answers. Sure. Questions inserted into your reply below. Answers inserted near the questions :) You can't save a configuration to the CD, I'm not arguing. This is a sincere question. If a CD is a R/W CD, would it be possible to erase some of the applications that are not needed for EMC like Games? Would it be possible to erase configuration files that are not needed and write a configuration to a R/W CD? I think Gene had a good description of CDs vs. hard disks, so I'll leave it there. but if you have a USB memory I do. tick, you can make a copy of a config Does EMC have to be installed to create a config or can this be done while using the CD? No, the USB stick is being used like a floppy in this case. You boot from the liveCD, you do some stuff, and you then put some data files on the USB stick. (in your home directory, which will be in ramdisk), I don't understand the statement about home directory and ramdisk. The home directory on a Unix (or Windows) system is where your personal files go. On Windows it's usually under Documents and Settings, then the user name (usually Administrator due to installation issues :) ). On Ubuntu Linux it's /home/username. This is just a place where files should be created for you by default, so they don't interfere with other users. The liveCD is a multiuser system, even though there will usually only be one person logged in. As for ramdisk - remember the days when floppies were really slow, and some people wanted to use some memory (usually high memory, then later extended and expanded) to store files, so they wouldn't have to wait for often-used things to come from disk all the time? That's what I'm talking about here. Ubuntu basically makes a RAMdisk so that you can save some files using the liveCD. These will go away when you turn off the computer, since they're in memory. This is what I think I know: computer turns on, bios in a prom on the motherboard has a limited set of instructions that the computer follows to locate the OS that will run the computer, OS is found and takes over computer operation (example: XP). When the OS is up and running, then other programs can be selected which have commands of their own to use computer resources while the OS oversees all of the currently running programs. When a computer boots and the bios sees that there is a source of OS in the CD drive or on a USB channel, it allows that OS to run. So far so good. Here is where it gets fuzzy for me. While running the Ubuntu CD it was possible to open the Word Processor application. If a document was created while that application was open would it be possible to save the document? Yes. If yes, where? If you save it to your home directory (should be the default directory in the file save dialog), then it will end up in a ramdisk. I don't know exactly how the ramdisk is set up, so I don't know where else you can save files. If the CD being used were a R/W CD then it would make sense to me (although it might not actually work) that the created document could be saved on the CD. It doesn't make sense to me (keep in mind that I don't know what I'm talking about, I'm just sharing my impression) that created data could be saved using the hard drive, a USB memory stick, a floppy drive (yes, I have one plugged into a USB port for old stuff I have to reference occassionally) or a second R/W CD drive. This doesn't make sense to me because I don't understand how the OS running on the CD would have the drivers to manage the USB ports, other CD drives, etc. It's a liveCD. Linux is a little different from Windows in that it actually includes drivers for nearly everything by default. When the CD boots, it has full networking, USB, mouse, audio, most video, and other device drivers already present. Only proprietary drivers won't be immediately usable when booted from the CD (these are usually for high end video cards and the like). then copy that to the USB stick. Later, when you go to do the demo, you can boot from liveCD, and copy the config back to your ramdisk home directory and select it from the config picker. Once I understand the directions above this will probably be as simple for me as the file copy and paste that I do so often now. At the moment, I don't understand the statement above. What is the ramdisk home
[Emc-users] How to get ubuntu-8.04-desktop-emc2-aj07-i386.iso to run from a CD.
I downloaded a copy of ubuntu-8.04-desktop-emc2-aj07-i386.iso to my computer and copied it to a CD. When I select the file on the CD a message window opens that states Windows cannot open this file. Pursuing the next step offered in the error window results in a window that states the file is a CD-ROM image. What am I doing or not doing? I was trying to get the EMC to run from the CD. Jim -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] I was able to boot from the CD, thanks for all the information.
Many thanks for all the information. Is it possible to create a configuration and make a CD to demonstrate how a machine would function if retrofit with EMC? Jim -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] PID questions
Hi Peter, Hi Stephen, Thank you very much for your answers. The goal is to retrofit a knee mill (Hurco KM3P) in very good mechanical condition with the original servo amplifiers (analog signal, + / - 10 vdc) and then cut 3D gcode output from a MicroSoft (please keep the booing in the backround) based CAM software. The user must be able to connect to the MicroSoft network (Centroid is currently Linux based and I connected the customer's machine to the MicroSoft network by following Centroid's instructions) to download files (most preferable) or load the gcode onto a thumb drive and walk the program to the EMC control, load, setup part zero and tools and run. This application is very blocks per second intensive. Spending money on a faster CPU or dual CPU's would be weighed against the benefits of the ability to mill faster. The Hurco, prior to the control dying, would average 25 ipm. If after retrofitting it would average 50 - 60 ipm this would be a substantial increase. I really don't think it will do much better than that because it is a dove tail saddle. Consistently higher feedrates would require linear ways. The Centroid retrofitted mill that averages 60 ipm has a dovetail saddle. Any recommendations for a fast motherboard? Fast motion control board? Approach to configuring the system? If this goal can be achieved on a par with a Centroid system (the best I have seen so far for 3D milling on knee mills but I haven't seen everything) then I have a customer ready to give it a try. I look forward to your reply. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: Stephen Wille Padnos spad...@sover.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PID questions Peter C. Wallace wrote: EMC2 can do this, but I don't know if anyone has yet. The PID component now outputs error on a pin, and also outputs a saturated signal when output has been too high for a period of time. These can be used, along with adaptive feed override, to reduce the overall feed rate. - Steve Making such a system stable is not something I would like to try however... Indeed. I imagine you'd need pretty low frequency filters on the error, and only allow AFO changes after some saturated period. Of course, that may make the technique ineffective, since responding to impending error conditions probably needs to be pretty quick. It also won't help for spindle-synchronized moves (unless you also modify the spindle speed by the AFO factor). - Steve -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Hi All
Hi Ed, FWIW Many, if not most, of the ballscrews on the machines I service are coupled to the motors by timing belts (various tooth types). I laser calibrate and do lead screw compensation adjustment on these machines and am amazed at how accurately they repeat. Different tooth types will provide varying levels of repeatability. See link: http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=7916location_id=11536. Standard disclaimer: I have no commercial interest in Gates. Properly tensioned, a belt can be as rigid as a screw for the system it is driving especially when the belt length is reasonably short. On the machines I calibrate I tension the timing belt slightly more than contact to the pulley and get excellent results that perform well for my customers for long periods of time. I have never found it necessary to tighten timing belts like V belts but have often found them that tight from the manufacturer or from other technicians. Just sharing some real world experience without the conclusion that it is the answer for every situation. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: Ed ate...@mwt.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Hi All Rainer Schmidt wrote: Check out pico-systems.com How are you measuring your backlash? Ed. Thanks Ed. I use a regular magnetic base and a electronic dial indicator. Due to the use of the timing belts and no screws, there is no backlash. No hesitation whatsoever and all correlates with the intended pulses. R The problem with timing belts is that they and their support systems are not as rigid as a screw. As an experiment set your indicator to the spindle and gently push and pull (a few pounds) while watching the indicator, a little deflection can make quite a difference in the roundness of a hole. What kind of tolerances are you trying to maintain? Ed. -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] PID questions
In conversation with a supplier of motion control products for EMC and Mach3 the discussion of PID loops arose. The discussion was in the context of servo driven systems. Here is some information that I would welcome others review and comment. There are no flames in the following and there is not intent to start any flaming. An apples to apples comparison is being sought. A system has to be chosen for to retrofit a mill that will be cutting 3D surfaces. Curve intersecting curve intersecting flat on an angle, etc. I have retrofit similar mills with Centroid systems and the users regularly program at 100 ipm and observe that the mills average about 60 ipm (as low as 10 - 15 ipm in very curvy detail or tight corners and up to 95 ipm on almost flat curves and wide open corners). Does anyone have experience with EMC or Mach3 achieving the same level of performance as the Centroid system? If yes, what configuration was used? For emc, the PID loops are in the PC software, for Mach3, the PID loops are in the motion control hardware. EMC's PID loop has a cycle rate of 1000 times per second. Is this a fact? If yes, are there any options to get the PID loop to run faster? There is motion control hardware available for Mach3 that is capable of a PID loop with a cycle rate of 5000 times per second. Although EMC receives feedback in realtime it does not adjust commands to the axes if the axes are getting closer to exceeding the following error limits. I do not know this to be true. This is a statement from the supplier of motion control hardware for EMC and Mach3. Mach3 is an open loop system sending commands that are managed by the motion control hardware which will shut down if the following error limits are exceeded and then tell the Mach3 system that it has shut down. I look forward to replies. Have a good day, Jim -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] multi-pass threading 5i20 problem lathe
Hi I've been trying to configure my lathe for threading and I think I'm missing something. I have the 5i20+7i33 mesa card + servos + 100 lines encoder attached to the spindle The threading are incorrect, so I've been looking to what can be wrong, and I find that the motion.spindle-revs not correspond with the reality. When there is only 1 to 5 revolution the value is almost correct, but when the spindle rotated more than 50 revolution the gaps between the read value and real is increased. So I would think that making rigid tapping it would work, but not for multi-pass threading because the increasing error. I think that my .hal file in not properly done, I miss something. So I ask for help please! Thanks a lot Arnoldo Riter Here is the block I added in order to make threading, but I doesn't work properly!! 100-line encoder gives 400 pulses per rev### setp m5i20.0.enc-03-scale 400 net spindle-pos m5i20.0.enc-03-position net spindle-pos motion.spindle-revs net spindle-index-en motion.spindle-index-enable net spindle-index-en m5i20.0.enc-03-index-enable -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 5i20-error
Tom escribió: Arnold Riter CNC arnoldriter...@... writes: ... Thanks to everybody The problem was noise from the VFD!!! Arnold Hey Arnold, How did you determine it was noise from the VFD? Were you getting earlier symptoms? What were they? Tom -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Hello Tom, Doing the test I forget to ground the new motor and there was some kind of problem, that when I measured the tension between the PC ground and the machinery ground I detected 5v to 35v. I have no oscilloscope so I can't be sure it was noise but it is very provable. When I grounded all things ok, the problem disappeared. I'm working in tuning the VFD and adapting my .hal file using your examples, hope to have it running today Arnold -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] 5i20-error
I have an error every time I try to use EMC Debug file information: insmod: error inserting '/usr/realtime-2.6.24-16-rtai/modules/emc2/hal_m5i20.ko': -1 Operation not permitted m5i20_motion.hal:3: exit value: 1 m5i20_motion.hal:3: insmod failed, returned -1 7718 I've done no modification no changes to my configuration that was working ok What does the error means? -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 5i20-error
Alex Joni escribió: I have an error every time I try to use EMC Debug file information: insmod: error inserting '/usr/realtime-2.6.24-16-rtai/modules/emc2/hal_m5i20.ko': -1 Operation not permitted m5i20_motion.hal:3: exit value: 1 m5i20_motion.hal:3: insmod failed, returned -1 7718 I've done no modification no changes to my configuration that was working ok What does the error means? As such, not that much. But opening a terminal (Applications-Accessories-Terminal) and typing dmesg (without the quotes) should give you a longish list from the system log. We care about the last 10-20 of them (assuming you type dmesg right after a failed attempt to run emc2/5i20 config). Regards, Alex Thanks to everybody The problem was noise from the VFD!!! Arnold -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 5i20+sevos and ??stepper?? error
Sebastian Kuzminsky escribió: Arnold Riter CNC wrote: Debug file information: insmod: error inserting '/usr/realtime-2.6.24-16-rtai/modules/emc2/ddt.ko': -1 File exists m5i20_motion.hal:55: exit value: 1 m5i20_motion.hal:55: insmod failed, returned -1 8446 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND Stopping realtime threads Unloading hal components What am I doing wrong? Looks like you're calling loadrt ddt more than once, with the second time being m5i20_motion.hal line 55. That's not allowed. If you need more ddt instances you can load it with loadrt ddt count=N, to get N ddt instances. Yes, I haven't noticed, I was using ddt for rpm read as well I've solved it and I have the 4th axis working Thanks very much Arnold -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] 5i20+sevos and ??stepper??
Hello, I'm using servos but I'd like to add a 4th axis to my mill using stepper. Here it is the configuration of my mill till now: 3 servomotors+Amps 1 Mesacard 5i20 1 7i33 1 7i37 My questions are: Can I use the 7i37 for controlling the 4th axis with stepper? or it is better to use the parallel port? Is there any ini and hal file to use as a example for my needs? (servo+stepper) Please any help will be very welcome! Arnold -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 5i20+sevos and ??stepper?? error
Peter C. Wallace escribió: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Arnold Riter CNC wrote: Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:07:15 +0100 From: Arnold Riter CNC arnoldriter...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] 5i20+sevos and ??stepper?? Hello, I'm using servos but I'd like to add a 4th axis to my mill using stepper. Here it is the configuration of my mill till now: 3 servomotors+Amps 1 Mesacard 5i20 1 7i33 1 7i37 My questions are: Can I use the 7i37 for controlling the 4th axis with stepper? or it is better to use the parallel port? Parallel would likely be simpler as it would mean fewer HAL changes. 5I20 will give better performance (as it can do hardware step generation) but you will have to change to the new firmware/driver = HostMot2 and new HAL file. I would not drive the steppers through the 7I37 for speed reasons but either directly from the 5I20 (assuming your step driver is isolated) Or if you want to be a little safer, through a 7I42T I/O protector or 7I47 differential driver card. Is there any ini and hal file to use as a example for my needs? (servo+stepper) Please any help will be very welcome! Arnold -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. I have problems when I try to add stepper capability I get a error: Debug file information: insmod: error inserting '/usr/realtime-2.6.24-16-rtai/modules/emc2/ddt.ko': -1 File exists m5i20_motion.hal:55: exit value: 1 m5i20_motion.hal:55: insmod failed, returned -1 8446 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND Stopping realtime threads Unloading hal components What am I doing wrong? -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] wire transfer
Darn! 2nd try: Stuart, If you obtain whatever you need, have money left over and don't want to be bothered with the bookkeeping exercise of tracking it, please forward to me. Thank you card will be sent after funds are received. Hopefully awaiting your reply. Jim - Original Message - From: Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] wire transfer Sorry Jim, I received it all this afternoon. :) Stuart On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services j...@cncservices.ws wrote: Mike, If you haven't sent all the money to Stuart, please forward remainder to me. Thank you card will be sent after funds are received. Hopefully awaiting your reply, Jim - Original Message - From: Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com To: EMC2-Users-List Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: [Emc-users] wire transfer Mike, We need to get the money up here this afternoon, thanks Stuart -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] CAD that works with Linux.
This is not free CAD but it does work with Linux (Red Hat) OS. http://www.softech.com/products/cadra/linux.php This is information only. I have no connection with the company. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Jim Fleig CNC Services - Original Message - From: Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:13 PM Subject: [Emc-users] BRL-CAD Is anyone using BRL-CAD to make parts? BRL-CAD appears to not make g-code, is there something that can be used to make g-code from BRL-CAD? What about MeshCAM?: http://www.grzsoftware.com/ Someone I talked to mentioned Salome for CAD: http://www.salome-platform.org/home/presentation/overview/ Is FreeCAD usable yet?: http://juergen-riegel.net/FreeCAD/Docu/index.php?title=Main_Page Kirk - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] servo reverse
I tried with a negative value for the scale. That is Ok, since I can read the encoder correctly now, but it's needed to reverse the analog signal for the servo speed control. I solved it temporary by modifying the drive internal parameters, but I don't like to modify it, because I will use the drive for two project. Coud you tell me how to change the analog signal (+10 -10) to (-10 to +10) ? since a negative scale needs to invert the analog signal I think. Regards Arnold Stephen Wille Padnos escribió: Stuart Stevenson wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Arnold Riter CNC arnoldriter...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to everybody, I'd like to thanks you all for the information which make me able to carry out the conversion of a BF20 mill to CNC. I've been using cnc for a while with windows based program, and emc2. When I decided to use servos in my last project , it was clear for me that the option of EMC2 will be the best, and already tested the machine I can said that I am very pleased with EMC2+Linux I've used brushless servo + 5i20 mesa card + 7i33 + 7i37 I'm very happy with the mesa cards, I can read the encoders with no problems at all from the first time, and all the system are very very fast and reliable. I'm finishing the work and I need your help, so the question is: I need to reverse the way of one servo turn, but I wouldn't like to modify the wiring, so, is it possible to change any software part like the hal file? If possible could you give me a clue how to do that? you should be able to reverse the sign of the scale in the .ini file and then reverse the connections (in .hal file) for the encoder The encoder should be connected to a Mesa encoder input, so reversing the signals isn't possible in a .hal file. You can certainly change the sign of the encoder scale though :) - Steve -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] switchable spindle/rotary
Hello Everyone, I am working in a cnc conversion for a bf20 mil and 250x500 lathe I'll use Delta servos+ 5i20 + 7i33 and 7i37 mesa card I think to use a 1000wts Delta servo in order to power the (Spindle)-(Rotary axe) *I need to switch the spindle on the fly to be used like a rotary axes and viceversa * Could it be done? How can I achieve that? It is posible to use and M code to change configuration of the Spindle-Axe Any information or clue will be welcome Thanks very much Arnold - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] switchable spindle/rotary
Stuart, Thanks very much for your advice. I was thinking in simplifying the design, and perhaps to use the servo drive as a variable speed drive and viceversa. I think the servo drive cloud do that, but I'd like to know how can I modify EMC to allow that procedure but not modifying the hardware Regards Arnold Arnold, Depending what the rotary table mode will do I think you will need to have a dual drive set up. You will need motor to drive the spindle during spindle mode and a motor to drive the spindle for rotary table mode. You will need to engage one motor or the other depending on the mode. Just my opinion. Stuart On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Arnoldo Riter CNC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, I am working in a cnc conversion for a bf20 mil and 250x500 lathe I'll use Delta servos+ 5i20 + 7i33 and 7i37 mesa card I think to use a 1000wts Delta servo in order to power the (Spindle)-(Rotary axe) *I need to switch the spindle on the fly to be used like a rotary axes and viceversa * Could it be done? How can I achieve that? It is posible to use and M code to change configuration of the Spindle-Axe Any information or clue will be welcome Thanks very much Arnold - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43
Hi Peter, Why not offer to exchange for an earlier board for which there is already an established setup? This may provide an opportunity for the customer to get something up and running. Jim PS (Overall I have read very positive reviews of your product.) - Original Message - From: Peter C. Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43 On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Richard Acosta wrote: Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:57:39 -0200 From: Richard Acosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Pissed off of EMC2 and 7i43 Ok, i really pissed off, i have bought something i cant use. I have been trying to do something with this crappy card and all i get is error this, error that, no clear info, no clear manuals, i have asked for help and i have 3 different versions of what should i do, and... none has worked. Mesa sends me to EMC2 Boards, since it looks they have not a clue on how to make their own board work. Thats more than a little unfair. We know our boards and their firmware inside and out. We (Mesa) are _not_ experts on EMC, the HostMot2 driver, or HAL setup issues. That is why you were referred to the EMC list, where people with more experience in these areas can help you. Also HostMot2 driver support is very new, requiring that you update your EMC2 installation to the latest (trunk) version. The newness of the driver also means that you have the disadvantage that there are few people with 7I43s using Hostmot2 to compare notes with. The firmware in the 7I43 is new as well, and although we have tested compatibility with many parallel ports, there may still be EPP issues here that need to be addressed. Without exact descriptions of the problems, error messages, etc there is little we can do to improve comptibility. What I have not seen from you is detailed information about: What version of EMC you are using What your HAL file looks like What kind of error messages you have Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Working link to supplier of cutters and other machine shop stuff.
Thanks Dave, the link works. Jim - Original Message - From: Dave Engvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Thread cutting On Nov 5, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Jim Fleig - CNC Services wrote: And I've got MSC catalogs, but Hennley beats their prices everytime. I tried Googling Hennley and Henley but still did not find a source of cutters. Jim Try hemly tool www.hemlytool.com - Original Message - From: Andre' Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Thread cutting At 05:00 PM 11/5/2008, you wrote: Well, there is also KBC, MSC, Enco, JL, and probably some others. Doesn't Little Machine Shop sell smaller tooling for the desktop machines? Yes, but his selection is still limited, and while low priced generally, the old adage about getting what you pay for comes to mind. And I finally remembered the name of my toolset, Glanz. Inserts are from a 'V' name IIRC. Velleman maybe? And I've got MSC catalogs, but Hennley beats their prices everytime. And I'm not familiar with the remaining names. I use KBC a lot as they are the last one to keep a location in my town, and I save a bundle by picking up heavy stuff at their warehouse. I assume they have a web page? Thanks. Jon The travers web site works OK with the latest version of windows explorer but they have a long way to go to get to McMaster Carr's level for on line catalog. There paper catalog does have a lot of handy information on insert part number decoding, grades, coatings, speeds and feeds etc.. If you good tooling to use in a small lathe look at tools that are ment for swiss type turning machines. Like this. http://www.whizcut.se/applications_swiss_automatics.html __ Andre' B. Clear Lake, Wi. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Thread cutting
And I've got MSC catalogs, but Hennley beats their prices everytime. I tried Googling Hennley and Henley but still did not find a source of cutters. Jim - Original Message - From: Andre' Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Thread cutting At 05:00 PM 11/5/2008, you wrote: Well, there is also KBC, MSC, Enco, JL, and probably some others. Doesn't Little Machine Shop sell smaller tooling for the desktop machines? Yes, but his selection is still limited, and while low priced generally, the old adage about getting what you pay for comes to mind. And I finally remembered the name of my toolset, Glanz. Inserts are from a 'V' name IIRC. Velleman maybe? And I've got MSC catalogs, but Hennley beats their prices everytime. And I'm not familiar with the remaining names. I use KBC a lot as they are the last one to keep a location in my town, and I save a bundle by picking up heavy stuff at their warehouse. I assume they have a web page? Thanks. Jon The travers web site works OK with the latest version of windows explorer but they have a long way to go to get to McMaster Carr's level for on line catalog. There paper catalog does have a lot of handy information on insert part number decoding, grades, coatings, speeds and feeds etc.. If you good tooling to use in a small lathe look at tools that are ment for swiss type turning machines. Like this. http://www.whizcut.se/applications_swiss_automatics.html __ Andre' B. Clear Lake, Wi. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] EMC2 newbie woes
I picked up a Sherline mini mill in late '06, and their mini lathe in early '07, and then essentially never used them. I worked too much, and couldn't run them in my apartment building by the time I'd get home. Now I'm in a house, and have been trying to get it all set up again, but I have to say that unfortunately I've had nothing but troubles for about a month now trying to get EMC2 and my mill set up properly. I need to say that I do appreciate the efforts of the group, and am committed to getting this to work, and I love free/open software, but alas, I'm still trying to get even the simple things working correctly after many weeks. The #1 issue right now, as I'm afraid it could be responsible for the inaccuracies I'm seeing in what I'm trying to make, is the error message I get almost every time I fire up the program: RTAPI: unexpected realtime delay on task 1 There are 5 pages available through Google on the matter, and they don't answer the question, beyond hinting I should change my base period. I read whatever I could find awhile back about setting up the latency, but couldn't really make heads nor tails of it. The information in a few docs I found online didn't match up with anything I was seeing on the screen, and I don't have intimate knowledge of these things, so was unable to guess at anything. Tonight, I ran the latency-test again, and having again been handed many numbers that don't mean anything to me (and aren't explained anywhere I've been able to find), I decided to just use the Base Thread (25.0 µs) Max Jitter (NS) in my inch.ini file for BASE_PERIOD - a total guess, but it seemed right. The error stopped occurring, for a few more launches, but then returned. I understand absolutely nothing about any of this, so I have no next step. The default BASE_PERIOD in the file was IIRC 5. I've tried down to 1 (makes it super slow to load up), and up to the very high number I got from my latency tests - 187525 - and even 20. The error always comes back. Am I going to have to build the software from source (for some reason, as indicated in some of my Google finds?). I'll save my other curiosities for future emails, as I don't want this important bit to get lost in a flood of other questions :) Thanks very much! -Gary - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] vibratory polishing/deburring
On Wednesday 12 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope it's not too off-topic, as it's not about EMC2, but this is a forum of machinists (please let me know if there are intelligent, well-trafficked lists more intended for this kind of talk). Anyway, I suddenly realized today that I'm not blowing through my money fast enough ;) and started to look into home anodization kits, and setups, and that lead me eventually to vibratory polishers. The first things I found were the Burr King bench tops, which were great, but quite pricey: http://burrking.thomasnet.com/viewitems/vibratory-bowls-and-chambers/vibra-k ing-174-bench-top-bowls?forward=1# Then my gun enthusiast office-mate pointed me toward cheap alternatives: http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?tabid=1categoryid=19906categor ystring=9315***731***695***8940***utm_source=facasetumblerutm_medium=reloa dingcat I found some videos of them cleaning bullet casings, their usual use for gun folk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni1cmZtwja0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjGQlKyulqU It looks like decent action, and it fits my price/quietness (live in a tightly-packed LA neighborhood) points. Has anyone in here had experience with this kind of thing? Will it be enough for me? Can these things handle deburring well enough? Whatever I get, I'll find reason to pine for bigger at some point (just as with my mini-mill), but for now, it would be great to deburr, and polish up all of the smaller things I'm making out of 6061-T6. Thanks! -Gary I have the Lyman version, and have used it on steel, but the media abrasiveness I have, the red or green stuff, needs help for steel, 2 days didn't cut the hot roll scale off, just polished the edges a bit. It might be just the ticket for alu parts though. If it wasn't for the weight of river sand spoiling the jiggle, it might work pretty decent on steel but I've not actually tried it myself. I also have to run it outside as the hum pretty well permeates the house when its sitting on a rug on the cement floor of the basement. -- Cheers, Gene I have a Sherline 5400 mini-mill, so steel is just about of the question anyway. In fact, I have trouble with more than 0.002 deep cuts in 6061, even with a tiny 1/8 bit. It's truly a hobby-level machine. My dream is to create some very clever, small, marketable things with it, to help save up for a sweet CNC knee mill, and then I can think about RP ABS machines, and powerful laser/water jet engravers/cutters! :) I've seen many Lymans in my hunt, and with 0 experience, am unsure which one would be comparable in noise, power, etc., to the Harbor Freight model, and which might be better suited for my needs. The HF model is so cheap, though, I think it's worth giving it a shot. I can always find an alternate use for it, or Ebay it off to someone needing to clean shell casings if it doesn't work out for me. Then I can reveal any good experiences here. The noise permeating the house is a bit distressing. If I have to run something for say, 10 hours, it would be nice to just let it run into the late evening to finish up. I'm doing all of this mini machining in my office, in a house with all wood floors (so no sound is ever trapped by rugs, or carpets), but I've been surprised how much sound is killed just by the ancient walls. I had the mill cutting at full throttle (2800RPM), and this shopvac running at around 11PM this weekend: http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051langId=-1catalogId=10053productId=100388637marketID=48locStoreNum=6611categoryID=524502 I decided to finally see how loud it was for the neighbors, and went outside, and really couldn't hear it much when between our houses. Inside their house, through yet another wall, it would definitely be entirely silent. The ambient neighborhood sounds of traffic, and wind were louder than the very faint whir coming from my windows. Having lived in an apartment for years, with seemingly acoustically transparent walls, I've done a lot of research into soundproofing. One of the things I'm still keen to try with everything from the shopvac, to this vibratory bowl is anti-vibe mats, like these: http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/flooring.htm And even foot pads, like these: http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/vibrationpads.htm Another thing I'd love to try to really kill machine noise is a method I found on that site for building nesting boxes. Each is missing its bottom, and one side, and you nest them such that each larger box slides over its smaller, child box's open end, creating an opening that zig-zags back and forth from the inside to the out. Air can travel easily through this, but sound doesn't like turning corners. If you line the insides of the boxes with that anti-vibe, or sound-trapping stuff, and set it all up on a sheet of it on the floor, it's supposed to tremendously deaden machine sound. This would be great for something like a vacuum
Re: [Emc-users] vibratory polishing/deburring
Thanks for the link - I don't know all the fancy terms for finding all my options on their site yet. I searched for awhile, and never ran across that particular item. It looks a worthy candidate for my experiments. -Gary On Wednesday 12 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93252 Get the 93832-2VGA media to go with it, sounds like the best for harder metals. -- Cheers, Gene - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] vibratory polishing/deburring
Clever! My gut feeling has been that clothes-dryer tumbling action would take too long, and/or remove material too aggressively, even though these ideas seem to contradict each other. Honestly, though, a lot of things I'm going to be making are so tiny - e.g. less than 1 cubed - that I'm tempted to simply return to my youth with one of these: http://www.amazon.com/NSI-26354-Rock-Tumbler/dp/B0ISUU -Gary Gentlemen, We bought a cement mixer from Harbor Freight. The local pickup bed spray armor guys sprayed the inside and outside of the barrel. Works great. Media can be very aggressive and the coating shows very little wear after many hours use. thanks Stuart - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] vibratory polishing/deburring
I hope it's not too off-topic, as it's not about EMC2, but this is a forum of machinists (please let me know if there are intelligent, well-trafficked lists more intended for this kind of talk). Anyway, I suddenly realized today that I'm not blowing through my money fast enough ;) and started to look into home anodization kits, and setups, and that lead me eventually to vibratory polishers. The first things I found were the Burr King bench tops, which were great, but quite pricey: http://burrking.thomasnet.com/viewitems/vibratory-bowls-and-chambers/vibra-king-174-bench-top-bowls?forward=1# Then my gun enthusiast office-mate pointed me toward cheap alternatives: http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?tabid=1categoryid=19906categorystring=9315***731***695***8940***utm_source=facasetumblerutm_medium=reloadingcat I found some videos of them cleaning bullet casings, their usual use for gun folk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni1cmZtwja0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjGQlKyulqU It looks like decent action, and it fits my price/quietness (live in a tightly-packed LA neighborhood) points. Has anyone in here had experience with this kind of thing? Will it be enough for me? Can these things handle deburring well enough? Whatever I get, I'll find reason to pine for bigger at some point (just as with my mini-mill), but for now, it would be great to deburr, and polish up all of the smaller things I'm making out of 6061-T6. Thanks! -Gary - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] vibratory polishing/deburring
I'm very glad to hear that these are in actual CNC machine shop use. That adds some credibility. I was afraid to pick one up, and then sit there all day, only to find nothing changing on the parts. I'm going to snag this one: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93252 It's $10 less than my 1/8 dovetail bit, and much larger, and more useful! Thanks for the info, Gary I've used some from Harbor Freight. They are typical HF quality, but fine for light use and fairly quiet. I've got a relative who owns a CNC machine shop that uses them as well. And they are cheap. Javid - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: [Emc-users] vibratory polishing/deburring I hope it's not too off-topic, as it's not about EMC2, but this is a forum of machinists (please let me know if there are intelligent, well-trafficked lists more intended for this kind of talk). Anyway, I suddenly realized today that I'm not blowing through my money fast enough ;) and started to look into home anodization kits, and setups, and that lead me eventually to vibratory polishers. The first things I found were the Burr King bench tops, which were great, but quite pricey: http://burrking.thomasnet.com/viewitems/vibratory-bowls-and-chambers/vibra-king-174-bench-top-bowls?forward=1# Then my gun enthusiast office-mate pointed me toward cheap alternatives: http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?tabid=1categoryid=19906categorystring=9315***731***695***8940***utm_source=facasetumblerutm_medium=reloadingcat I found some videos of them cleaning bullet casings, their usual use for gun folk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni1cmZtwja0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjGQlKyulqU It looks like decent action, and it fits my price/quietness (live in a tightly-packed LA neighborhood) points. Has anyone in here had experience with this kind of thing? Will it be enough for me? Can these things handle deburring well enough? Whatever I get, I'll find reason to pine for bigger at some point (just as with my mini-mill), but for now, it would be great to deburr, and polish up all of the smaller things I'm making out of 6061-T6. Thanks! -Gary - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] vibratory polishing/deburring
Thanks for all the great info, Phil! I have decided to go with the HF machine: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93252 The things I'm making fit in my hand, so I don't need a huge floor model, thankfully. I was just wondering if these cheap machines would do anything at all, and it sounds like they will. It seems more like the medium and tumble-time will make the real difference here. I think I'll give your plasti-dip suggestion a tryout, too, as I'm worried about eating away the bowl with certain more abrasive media. I think I'll see what the internet has to say about homemade/found media, too, as some of the abrasives on the page you linked are pretty pricey for my hobby-only needs. Thanks again for the reply! -Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope it's not too off-topic, as it's not about EMC2, but this is a forum of machinists (please let me know if there are intelligent, well-trafficked lists more intended for this kind of talk). Anyway, I suddenly realized today that I'm not blowing through my money fast enough ;) and started to look into home anodization kits, and setups, and that lead me eventually to vibratory polishers. The first things I found were the Burr King bench tops, which were great, but quite pricey: http://burrking.thomasnet.com/viewitems/vibratory-bowls-and-chambers/vibra-king-174-bench-top-bowls?forward=1# Then my gun enthusiast office-mate pointed me toward cheap alternatives: http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?tabid=1categoryid=19906categorystring=9315***731***695***8940***utm_source=facasetumblerutm_medium=reloadingcat I found some videos of them cleaning bullet casings, their usual use for gun folk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni1cmZtwja0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjGQlKyulqU It looks like decent action, and it fits my price/quietness (live in a tightly-packed LA neighborhood) points. Has anyone in here had experience with this kind of thing? Will it be enough for me? Can these things handle deburring well enough? Whatever I get, I'll find reason to pine for bigger at some point (just as with my mini-mill), but for now, it would be great to deburr, and polish up all of the smaller things I'm making out of 6061-T6. Thanks! -Gary - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users I work for a company that sells those, maybe not the burr king brand but as to your question, they are very effective at removing some burrs from parts, it all boils down to part size and the medium used to do the deburring. I dont feel comfortable with saying go with this or that company but I have seen some beautiful work on aluminum, even polishing can be done. corn cobb medium and a polishing compound added in can do a fine job. medium types include the plastics, ceramics, gravel, sand, crushed seed shells, custom metal forms, ball bearings. each of them having a specific application. When your talking burrs, you can end up cutting material away from all of the part or something to the extent of deforming the burrs. the little table top from harbor freight, is really handy and may prove to be worth your while. if you plan on using something like that with more abrasive compounds for burr removal I would recommend you line the plastic bucket with that plasti-dip stuff, something that will stick to the bowl and provide some added thickness, and then experiment with things around the house or search the web for vibratory medium. Im in no way associated with this company but with a quick search on google, this link came up. http://shorinternational.com/TumblingMedia.htm that should give you an example of the various mediums and what they are capable of, Now the trick is to find a way to get EMC to control the thing :) coolant/water injector timing, you know fun stuff :) I hope this was of some value to you, I typically do not post to the list. Phil Gezar - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] LInuxCNC laptops
Hi Glenn, I also have a HP/Compag nw9440. Do you have Linux running on that laptop? If yes, how? I look forward to your reply. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: Glenn R. Edwards To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LInuxCNC laptops Hi Marcin, et al: I have two laptops running Linux and EMC2. One is a Dell 5000e and the other a Dell M50. Both were high-end laptops at the time of purchase, both have standard parports and both are running strong today (the 5000e is eight years old). I am not a Dell junkie; my latest laptop is an HP/Compaq nw9440 which is the best engineered laptop I have yet encountered. To finish my background cv: the laptops are driving a small, desktop CNC (Taig) Mill- NOT heavy metal, by any metric. Here are some URL's I found useful for running Linux on a laptop: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot http://tuxmobil.org/distribution_linux_laptop_mandrake.html http://www.astro.umd.edu/~teuben/linux/laptop/dell5000.html Things to watch for: Graphics drivers (laptops come with video chipsets, not real video cards, and can misbehave) Power management (I always have trouble with waking up in Linux- so never sleep ;-) Good luck, Glenn -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcin Jakubowski Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:44 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LInuxCNC laptops Thanks for the responses on EMC laptops. But surely there must be at least one specific laptop that does work? Is there any success story out there at ALL for a working laptop? Marcin On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Jason Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only problem is that Printer ports are not addressed the same on PCMCIA cards and with EMC2 we talk direct to the address and not via a driver. I dont think this solution would work. Jason On Mon, 2008-03-03 at 15:07 -0600, Jack wrote: In general, laptops are not a good idea. Many of the inexpensive ones are doing away with 'legacy' ports. I would suggest, whatever you get, get one with a PCCard slot, and get a PCCard that has a printer port on it. Actually, I would want two of the cards, just in case one gets fried :( - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] can mail this list from webmail, not from Thunderbird?
I need meta-help. Thanks for the welcome, Gene Heskett, in your reply to the one message I've managed to get through to the list. I sent that one from my web mail. I tried to reply to Gene's welcome reply to that mail from within my CNC account in Thunderbird (the same account I managed to post through online), but though the reply is in my sent box, and there's a little green 'replied to' arrow next to Gene's message in my Thunderbird mailbox for this list, my reply never showed up on the list. It's the same for the other original messages I tried to send to the list through Thunderbird. They seem sent, but got struck down somewhere. Does anyone have any idea what's going on? I've used Thunderbird, and separate accounts through my host for many mailing lists over the last few years. This is the first time it's failed for me. It's one thing to have to bother with web mail when I'm at home in front of my nicely set-up Thunderbird client, but the real pain is that I won't be able to reply to messages (from within webmail), as they won't remain on the server after Thunderbird pulls them down. That'll screw up conversations, and threading. I can send whatever mail settings info is necessary, though it all seems right here. Thanks! -Gary - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] 4th attempt to post a first message to this group
Apologies - haven't been able to get a message through, despite the options all being set up correctly in my profile. -g - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] not recognized motenc-lite card
Hi there I just bought a Motenc-lite card that is suposoused to be supported by linuxcnc. But when I booted the system it does not come up. I'm totally lost I've been unable to find documentation to fix the problem. thanks in advance CARD: MOTENC-Lite 4 axes PCI MOTION I/O control board linuxcnc installed form the lastest cd and updated to 2.2.3 lspci :02:07.0 Bridge: PLX Technology, Inc.: Unknown device 3001 (rev 01) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Cabin Fever Expo and CNC
Hi Matt, It seems every time I get ready to do something with EMC I am interrupted. All set to go to Cabin Fever and my co-driver comes down with the flu. Oh well. More of a drive my co-driver / retrofit assistant are talking about the EMC fest in June. I am considering running Ubuntu 6.06 and EMC2.2.2 on a Gateway E3600 (1.6 GHz Pentium 4 processor, 128 MB SDRAM, 20GB hard drives) with a Nvidia G-Force 2MX 200 (Part # 6002023). There is no onboard video (no video connector on the motherboard). Do you know if this Nvidia card will work well with EMC? This computer has a floppy and cd rom drive plus front and back USB ports. A memory increase is needed. Otherwise it looks like it should work well. I would run the DBAN 1.0.6 first to make sure the hard drive is clean then try to load the Ubuntu and EMC2. What do you think? Jim - Original Message - From: Matthew Glenn Shaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:24 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cabin Fever Expo and CNC On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 13:31 -0500, Ron Ginger wrote: Is someone familiar with EMC willing to help me run the machine with it? I'm vaguely familiar with EMC, I've heard it's really hard to install. ;) Anyway, Steve Stallings is pretty darn insistent that I come up to Cabin Fever this year, and as I don't think the EMC powered demo machine I was going to have there is going to make it, I'll be glad to help! Here's a question: Internet access at the show? If so, great! If no, let me know and I'll be sure to bring all required provisions on disk! Thanks, Matt - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Cabin Fever Expo and CNC resent as shorter message 1st one bounced because original message left in email
Hi Ron, Has there been any response to provide you assistance to make the mill run with EMC? I am an experienced field service engineer that has retrofitted several machines with different systems. I keep trying to get around to an EMC project but because it is not a paying job it ends up on the back burner. I can come with tools, wire, connectors, etc., years of experience and a helper that has worked with me retrofitting. Now all we need is a source of tech support . Jon Elson or someone else by phone? I have accomplished many things with capable phone support. I can also bring a laptop and work by email (wireless or network cable) with whomever might be able to provide instruction. Can you tell I am interested? Let me know, Jim Fleig PS (I have a tower computer, monitor, keyboard, mouse with Ubuntu and EMC(2?) loaded and running that I could bring along.) - Original Message - From: Ron Ginger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:31 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Cabin Fever Expo and CNC Cabin Fever Expo will be Jan 19 and 20, 2008 at York PA. For the past few years I have led a seminar on how to convert a mill to CNC, but this year we are actually going to do it at the show. We have an X2 mill and will be converting it to CNC. If all goes well this mill will be run by the new 'mach in a box' system, but if someone can help I would like to also see it run on EMC or any other software. Is someone familiar with EMC willing to help me run the machine with it? I would really like to show the machine with both Mach and EMC. I will have a PC there, I can set it up for dual boot with ubuntu, and I can load EMC, but I have never configured it and I don't want to fumble around with it at the show. ron ginger - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Cabin Fever presentation
Hi Ed, Two of us are considering coming to cabin fever expo from some 6 hours away up in New York. The purpose of our trip is to get some exposure to EMC2 in a general overview with regards to connection to a machine and also in detail with regards to software languages that need to be known to debug and / or develop. Would you recommend this show or the EMC fest 2008? I hope your answer is this show because IL is much farther away than PA. I look forward to your reply. Have a good day, Jim - Original Message - From: Ed Nisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cabin Fever presentation Gene: Where and when is this Cabin Fever supposed to be? York, PA. Two weekends and counting: http://www.cabinfeverexpo.com/ More info should be up shortly; I just sent in a description. Gene: another emc article in Circuit Cellar? I write about analog and RF stuff for them, but, hey, stepper drive circuitry has lots of analog issues! You'll see some of those same pix at Cabin Fever, should that influence your decision (one way or the other). Seth: I am definitely planning to be there. OK, at least you and me will have a fine time playing with my show-n-tell gadgetry... -- Ed - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Difference between motor controllers?
On 2/26/07, Gerry Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm new to motion controllers, and I'd like to ask the newbie question of which motion controller I should get. They all seem about the same to me. ... ==Vital MotencLite== Good: Seems well documented, professional, windows driver. At this point in my mind, this seems like the best. Bad: Someone on the list a while back said he had some trouble with it. ... we are using vital board on our table top mill and have made several parts. very accurate. no problems so far. Mike - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
