Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-31 Thread R.L. Wurdack
Yep, Ken that's the one.

Dick
- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Strauss" 
To: "'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues


> Is that what you meant?
> http://makezine.com/2016/03/25/dont-glue-anything-without-handy-reference-ch
> art/
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: R.L. Wurdack [mailto:di...@nwlink.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:05 PM
>> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues
>>
>> Sorry, Gene. My mags are down at the ranch and I'm picking apples up here
> at
>> the farm. I'll look up the reference as soon as I have a chance.
>>
>> Richard.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Heskett" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues
>>
>>
>> > On Thursday 25 August 2016 12:35:40 R.L. Wurdack wrote:
>> >
>> >> ""Make"" magazine a while back had a nice table of glues vs
>> >> applications that I found useful.
>> >>
>> >> Dick
>> >>
>> > I just spent half an hour clicking "more" without finding it.
>> >
>> > Thank you for trying.
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Gene Heskett" 
>> >> To: 
>> >> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:25 AM
>> >> Subject: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues
>> >>
>> >> > Greetings;
>> >> >
>> >> > Trying to carve the toolpost support for the little monster, on the
>> >> > little monster. I had it lopsided in the chuck, roughly centered on
>> >> > the QC's bolt hole. But that meant the chuck jaws were turned around
>> >> > and I couldn't get to the bottom 9/16 of an inch because of flying
>> >> > jaws .  I needed the cutaway down to perhaps 3mm of the carriage
>> >> > sled, so I wrote some gcode to cut the hollowed out curve. I was
>> >> > going to see if I could put it on the faceplate, but its a full 7"
>> >> > in diameter and hits the motor & electronics box on the back of the
>> >> > lathe.
>> >> >
>> >> > So that was out. I put the 5" 4 jaw back on, w/o the jaws, putting a
>> >> > live center in the tailstock, I ran it out far enough to get some
>> >> > saddle movement room but left it pushing about 100lbs worth and ran
>> >> > a line of fresh superglue all the way around it..
>> >> >
>> >> > Setting up the start-stop and done settings in my gcode, I had a
>> >> > good pressure on it, and had cleaned the face of the chuck with
>> >> > acetone, so superglue should have stuck it for a non-slip grip.
>> >> > Peeled it loose on the third touch of the tool. 3 times now, with
>> >> > longer setting times each time.
>> >> >
>> >> > If I can find it, I've some double stick tape, or does someone else
>> >> > have an even  better idea?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>> >> > --
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>> >> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>> >> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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>> >> >
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Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 August 2016 23:09:32 Peter Blodow wrote:

> Reallly handy, this chart. Too bad none of these products have ever
> been seen on this side of the world.
> Peter
>

I'd imagine they are, but the abbreviations used may need a translator.  
Many are not part of the "local lingo".

> Am 30.08.2016 22:15, schrieb Ken Strauss:
> > Is that what you meant?
> > http://makezine.com/2016/03/25/dont-glue-anything-without-handy-refe
> >rence-ch art/
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: R.L. Wurdack [mailto:di...@nwlink.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:05 PM
> >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues
> >>
> >> Sorry, Gene. My mags are down at the ranch and I'm picking apples
> >> up here
> >
> > at
> >
> >> the farm. I'll look up the reference as soon as I have a chance.
> >>
> >> Richard.
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Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-30 Thread Peter Blodow
Reallly handy, this chart. Too bad none of these products have ever been 
seen on this side of the world.
Peter

Am 30.08.2016 22:15, schrieb Ken Strauss:
> Is that what you meant?
> http://makezine.com/2016/03/25/dont-glue-anything-without-handy-reference-ch
> art/
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: R.L. Wurdack [mailto:di...@nwlink.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:05 PM
>> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues
>>
>> Sorry, Gene. My mags are down at the ranch and I'm picking apples up here
> at
>> the farm. I'll look up the reference as soon as I have a chance.
>>
>> Richard.
>>
>>


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Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 30 August 2016 16:15:51 Ken Strauss wrote:

> Is that what you meant?
> http://makezine.com/2016/03/25/dont-glue-anything-without-handy-refere
>nce-ch art/
>
Handy, like sliced bread.  Bookmarked. Thanks Ken.

> > -Original Message-
> > From: R.L. Wurdack [mailto:di...@nwlink.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:05 PM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues
> >
> > Sorry, Gene. My mags are down at the ranch and I'm picking apples up
> > here
>
> at
>
> > the farm. I'll look up the reference as soon as I have a chance.
> >
> > Richard.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Gene Heskett" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues
> >
> > > On Thursday 25 August 2016 12:35:40 R.L. Wurdack wrote:
> > >> ""Make"" magazine a while back had a nice table of glues vs
> > >> applications that I found useful.
> > >>
> > >> Dick
> > >
> > > I just spent half an hour clicking "more" without finding it.
> > >
> > > Thank you for trying.
> > >
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Gene Heskett" 
> > >> To: 
> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:25 AM
> > >> Subject: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues
> > >>
> > >> > Greetings;
> > >> >
> > >> > Trying to carve the toolpost support for the little monster, on
> > >> > the little monster. I had it lopsided in the chuck, roughly
> > >> > centered on the QC's bolt hole. But that meant the chuck jaws
> > >> > were turned around and I couldn't get to the bottom 9/16 of an
> > >> > inch because of flying jaws .  I needed the cutaway down to
> > >> > perhaps 3mm of the carriage sled, so I wrote some gcode to cut
> > >> > the hollowed out curve. I was going to see if I could put it on
> > >> > the faceplate, but its a full 7" in diameter and hits the motor
> > >> > & electronics box on the back of the lathe.
> > >> >
> > >> > So that was out. I put the 5" 4 jaw back on, w/o the jaws,
> > >> > putting a live center in the tailstock, I ran it out far enough
> > >> > to get some saddle movement room but left it pushing about
> > >> > 100lbs worth and ran a line of fresh superglue all the way
> > >> > around it..
> > >> >
> > >> > Setting up the start-stop and done settings in my gcode, I had
> > >> > a good pressure on it, and had cleaned the face of the chuck
> > >> > with acetone, so superglue should have stuck it for a non-slip
> > >> > grip. Peeled it loose on the third touch of the tool. 3 times
> > >> > now, with longer setting times each time.
> > >> >
> > >> > If I can find it, I've some double stick tape, or does someone
> > >> > else have an even  better idea?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks.
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > >> > --
> > >> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > >> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > >> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-30 Thread Ken Strauss
Is that what you meant?
http://makezine.com/2016/03/25/dont-glue-anything-without-handy-reference-ch
art/


> -Original Message-
> From: R.L. Wurdack [mailto:di...@nwlink.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:05 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues
>
> Sorry, Gene. My mags are down at the ranch and I'm picking apples up here
at
> the farm. I'll look up the reference as soon as I have a chance.
>
> Richard.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gene Heskett" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues
>
>
> > On Thursday 25 August 2016 12:35:40 R.L. Wurdack wrote:
> >
> >> ""Make"" magazine a while back had a nice table of glues vs
> >> applications that I found useful.
> >>
> >> Dick
> >>
> > I just spent half an hour clicking "more" without finding it.
> >
> > Thank you for trying.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Gene Heskett" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:25 AM
> >> Subject: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues
> >>
> >> > Greetings;
> >> >
> >> > Trying to carve the toolpost support for the little monster, on the
> >> > little monster. I had it lopsided in the chuck, roughly centered on
> >> > the QC's bolt hole. But that meant the chuck jaws were turned around
> >> > and I couldn't get to the bottom 9/16 of an inch because of flying
> >> > jaws .  I needed the cutaway down to perhaps 3mm of the carriage
> >> > sled, so I wrote some gcode to cut the hollowed out curve. I was
> >> > going to see if I could put it on the faceplate, but its a full 7"
> >> > in diameter and hits the motor & electronics box on the back of the
> >> > lathe.
> >> >
> >> > So that was out. I put the 5" 4 jaw back on, w/o the jaws, putting a
> >> > live center in the tailstock, I ran it out far enough to get some
> >> > saddle movement room but left it pushing about 100lbs worth and ran
> >> > a line of fresh superglue all the way around it..
> >> >
> >> > Setting up the start-stop and done settings in my gcode, I had a
> >> > good pressure on it, and had cleaned the face of the chuck with
> >> > acetone, so superglue should have stuck it for a non-slip grip.
> >> > Peeled it loose on the third touch of the tool. 3 times now, with
> >> > longer setting times each time.
> >> >
> >> > If I can find it, I've some double stick tape, or does someone else
> >> > have an even  better idea?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >> > --
> >> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> >> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> >> > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
> >> >
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Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-30 Thread R.L. Wurdack
Sorry, Gene. My mags are down at the ranch and I'm picking apples up here at 
the farm. I'll look up the reference as soon as I have a chance.

Richard.


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Heskett" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues


> On Thursday 25 August 2016 12:35:40 R.L. Wurdack wrote:
>
>> ""Make"" magazine a while back had a nice table of glues vs
>> applications that I found useful.
>>
>> Dick
>>
> I just spent half an hour clicking "more" without finding it.
>
> Thank you for trying.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Gene Heskett" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:25 AM
>> Subject: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues
>>
>> > Greetings;
>> >
>> > Trying to carve the toolpost support for the little monster, on the
>> > little monster. I had it lopsided in the chuck, roughly centered on
>> > the QC's bolt hole. But that meant the chuck jaws were turned around
>> > and I couldn't get to the bottom 9/16 of an inch because of flying
>> > jaws .  I needed the cutaway down to perhaps 3mm of the carriage
>> > sled, so I wrote some gcode to cut the hollowed out curve. I was
>> > going to see if I could put it on the faceplate, but its a full 7"
>> > in diameter and hits the motor & electronics box on the back of the
>> > lathe.
>> >
>> > So that was out. I put the 5" 4 jaw back on, w/o the jaws, putting a
>> > live center in the tailstock, I ran it out far enough to get some
>> > saddle movement room but left it pushing about 100lbs worth and ran
>> > a line of fresh superglue all the way around it..
>> >
>> > Setting up the start-stop and done settings in my gcode, I had a
>> > good pressure on it, and had cleaned the face of the chuck with
>> > acetone, so superglue should have stuck it for a non-slip grip.
>> > Peeled it loose on the third touch of the tool. 3 times now, with
>> > longer setting times each time.
>> >
>> > If I can find it, I've some double stick tape, or does someone else
>> > have an even  better idea?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>> > --
>> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
>> > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
>> >
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Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 26 August 2016 18:42:38 andy pugh wrote:

> On 25 August 2016 at 17:25, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> > If I can find it, I've some double stick tape, or does someone else
> > have an even  better idea?
>
> Some extra holes in the bottom of the block are neither here nor there
> as far as function is concerned, just bolt it to the face-plate.

It would require a remaking of the box covering the spindle motor and its 
driver electronics thats hanging on the back of the bed behind the 
headstock. It hits the box, and needs another 3/4" inch of room to clear 
it.

Or, my finding a 6" faceplate.  This is all complicated by the two 
holddown bolts in it now, being so close together that they would be 
hitting the face of the flange on the spindle.

If this last glue job fails, I will machine an insert into the front of 
the spindle, and another in the rear to serve as a bolt alignment and 
turn it small end toward the spindle and stretch the heck out of a rod 
with 10mm threads on both ends so it will grab it at the center of the 
qc's bolt hole.  The qc's bolt hole does not go all the way thru, 
although if I am carefull, the bigger mill can fix that, then turn it 
over and let that 8mm hole be the pilot hole for a 10mm bit down to the 
threads I already cut.  But that all depends on the success of the 
milling operation I posted the example code for, asking for help in 
linearizing the D.O.C. as it proceeds.

Thanks Andy.

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Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-26 Thread andy pugh
On 25 August 2016 at 17:25, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> If I can find it, I've some double stick tape, or does someone else have
> an even  better idea?

Some extra holes in the bottom of the block are neither here nor there
as far as function is concerned, just bolt it to the face-plate.

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Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 August 2016 14:38:19 Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Thursday 25 August 2016 12:55:23 Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Gene Heskett
> > 
>
> wrote:
> > > Setting up the start-stop and done settings in my gcode, I had a
> > > good pressure on it, and had cleaned the face of the chuck with
> > > acetone, s superglue should have stuck it for a non-slip grip.
> > > Peeled it loose on the third touch of the tool.
> >
> > Superglue is brittle (hard but not tough), so it probably fails from
> > tool chatter. I think you'd have a better time with Goo, contact
> > cement or carpet tape. Even 5-min epoxy should be better, and it has
> > the advantage of disassembling by heating.
>
> No tool chatter, just the nearly silent scraping sound as it just
> barely make a bit of dust.
>
> I have no clue how it will take the cutting heat, but while out
> getting a scrpt for Dee at CVS I found some double-sided, no foam,
> scotch tape that claimed to be permanent. Since there are empty jaw
> slots in the chuck, I'd bet it is removable. :)
>
> Anyway the job is started, will take about 500 minutes to run.
>
And the tape squirted out of the interface in about 45 minutes.  So after 
feeding us I read the directions on the 3M metal glue, and applied it 
after cleaning up the gooey from the tape.  But its a 24 hour cure time, 
so I can't hit the r key till late tomorrow.  It looks to be a formula 
similar to gorilla glue, expanding as it cures by stealing moisture from 
the air.  Cream colored expansion foam where the tailstock pressure 
squeezed it out. 

> Looking at the backplot highly magnified, it looks as if the first few
> cuts are light, and by the time it was to make the last sweep, the cut
> would be pretty heavy, so I reduced the decrement multiplier, and then
> adding a teeny bit to it in the loop, which made the last half look
> like a pretty consistent cut.  We came in to check on my lady, &
> rebore and refill the coffee cup, and we'll go see how its doing once
> it starts to cut a visible curve.  And take my IR thermometer along to
> see how hot its getting when I go back up the hill.

Which after cutting for about 1/2 hour, before the tape failed, said 99F 
in an 87F building.

> If that fails, I also bought a small tube of "metal" glue, which reads
> like it might work, but has a 24 hour under clamp cure time.
>
> Fun and games, but so far I'm not keeping score.

3 days on this, and the #@^% "fun" is wearing thin.  I can't feed too 
heavy else the polygroove belt slips, but if I tighten it, then it 
breaks other drive parts.  Damned if I do, and damned if I don't. If the 
Sheldon was usable, this would be a 50 minute job just because I could 
take a decent cut.

So I'll go cry in my last beer, and see about finishing up the slider 
plate mounting strips that will mount the X motor on the Sheldon for 
tomorrows project. Bearings for the x thrust container are trickling in 
slowly.  No sign of the torrington cartridges that go in this same shaft 
assembly yet.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 August 2016 12:55:23 Przemek Klosowski wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> > Setting up the start-stop and done settings in my gcode, I had a
> > good pressure on it, and had cleaned the face of the chuck with
> > acetone, s superglue should have stuck it for a non-slip grip. 
> > Peeled it loose on the third touch of the tool.
>
> Superglue is brittle (hard but not tough), so it probably fails from
> tool chatter. I think you'd have a better time with Goo, contact
> cement or carpet tape. Even 5-min epoxy should be better, and it has
> the advantage of disassembling by heating.

No tool chatter, just the nearly silent scraping sound as it just barely 
make a bit of dust.

I have no clue how it will take the cutting heat, but while out getting a 
scrpt for Dee at CVS I found some double-sided, no foam, scotch tape 
that claimed to be permanent. Since there are empty jaw slots in the 
chuck, I'd bet it is removable. :)

Anyway the job is started, will take about 500 minutes to run.

Looking at the backplot highly magnified, it looks as if the first few 
cuts are light, and by the time it was to make the last sweep, the cut 
would be pretty heavy, so I reduced the decrement multiplier, and then 
adding a teeny bit to it in the loop, which made the last half look like 
a pretty consistent cut.  We came in to check on my lady, & rebore and 
refill the coffee cup, and we'll go see how its doing once it starts to 
cut a visible curve.  And take my IR thermometer along to see how hot 
its getting when I go back up the hill.

If that fails, I also bought a small tube of "metal" glue, which reads 
like it might work, but has a 24 hour under clamp cure time.

Fun and games, but so far I'm not keeping score.

Thank you Przemek.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 25 August 2016 12:35:40 R.L. Wurdack wrote:

> ""Make"" magazine a while back had a nice table of glues vs
> applications that I found useful.
>
> Dick
>
I just spent half an hour clicking "more" without finding it.

Thank you for trying.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gene Heskett" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:25 AM
> Subject: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues
>
> > Greetings;
> >
> > Trying to carve the toolpost support for the little monster, on the
> > little monster. I had it lopsided in the chuck, roughly centered on
> > the QC's bolt hole. But that meant the chuck jaws were turned around
> > and I couldn't get to the bottom 9/16 of an inch because of flying
> > jaws .  I needed the cutaway down to perhaps 3mm of the carriage
> > sled, so I wrote some gcode to cut the hollowed out curve. I was
> > going to see if I could put it on the faceplate, but its a full 7"
> > in diameter and hits the motor & electronics box on the back of the
> > lathe.
> >
> > So that was out. I put the 5" 4 jaw back on, w/o the jaws, putting a
> > live center in the tailstock, I ran it out far enough to get some
> > saddle movement room but left it pushing about 100lbs worth and ran
> > a line of fresh superglue all the way around it..
> >
> > Setting up the start-stop and done settings in my gcode, I had a
> > good pressure on it, and had cleaned the face of the chuck with
> > acetone, so superglue should have stuck it for a non-slip grip. 
> > Peeled it loose on the third touch of the tool. 3 times now, with
> > longer setting times each time.
> >
> > If I can find it, I've some double stick tape, or does someone else
> > have an even  better idea?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-25 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Gene Heskett  wrote:

>
> Setting up the start-stop and done settings in my gcode, I had a good
> pressure on it, and had cleaned the face of the chuck with acetone, s
> superglue should have stuck it for a non-slip grip.  Peeled it loose on
> the third touch of the tool.
>
Superglue is brittle (hard but not tough), so it probably fails from tool
chatter. I think you'd have a better time with Goo, contact cement or
carpet tape. Even 5-min epoxy should be better, and it has the advantage of
disassembling by heating.
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Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-25 Thread R.L. Wurdack
""Make"" magazine a while back had a nice table of glues vs applications 
that I found useful.

Dick


- Original Message - 
From: "Gene Heskett" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:25 AM
Subject: [Emc-users] Silly Q about glues


> Greetings;
>
> Trying to carve the toolpost support for the little monster, on the
> little monster. I had it lopsided in the chuck, roughly centered on the
> QC's bolt hole. But that meant the chuck jaws were turned around and I
> couldn't get to the bottom 9/16 of an inch because of flying jaws .  I
> needed the cutaway down to perhaps 3mm of the carriage sled, so I wrote
> some gcode to cut the hollowed out curve. I was going to see if I could
> put it on the faceplate, but its a full 7" in diameter and hits the
> motor & electronics box on the back of the lathe.
>
> So that was out. I put the 5" 4 jaw back on, w/o the jaws, putting a live
> center in the tailstock, I ran it out far enough to get some saddle
> movement room but left it pushing about 100lbs worth and ran a line of
> fresh superglue all the way around it..
>
> Setting up the start-stop and done settings in my gcode, I had a good
> pressure on it, and had cleaned the face of the chuck with acetone, so
> superglue should have stuck it for a non-slip grip.  Peeled it loose on
> the third touch of the tool. 3 times now, with longer setting times each
> time.
>
> If I can find it, I've some double stick tape, or does someone else have
> an even  better idea?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> -- 
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
>
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[Emc-users] Silly Q about glues

2016-08-25 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings;

Trying to carve the toolpost support for the little monster, on the 
little monster. I had it lopsided in the chuck, roughly centered on the 
QC's bolt hole. But that meant the chuck jaws were turned around and I 
couldn't get to the bottom 9/16 of an inch because of flying jaws .  I 
needed the cutaway down to perhaps 3mm of the carriage sled, so I wrote 
some gcode to cut the hollowed out curve. I was going to see if I could 
put it on the faceplate, but its a full 7" in diameter and hits the 
motor & electronics box on the back of the lathe.

So that was out. I put the 5" 4 jaw back on, w/o the jaws, putting a live 
center in the tailstock, I ran it out far enough to get some saddle 
movement room but left it pushing about 100lbs worth and ran a line of 
fresh superglue all the way around it..

Setting up the start-stop and done settings in my gcode, I had a good 
pressure on it, and had cleaned the face of the chuck with acetone, so 
superglue should have stuck it for a non-slip grip.  Peeled it loose on 
the third touch of the tool. 3 times now, with longer setting times each 
time.

If I can find it, I've some double stick tape, or does someone else have 
an even  better idea?

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

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