date:20021019

Thanks Greg for the info. I actually checked out my lilo.conf and it does
reflect what you are mentioning in your answer. This part will be added
to new knowledge.
Thanks again
Richard

At 20:08 2002-10-19 -0400, you wrote:
On Saturday 19 October 2002 05:00
pm, Richard Laframboise wrote:
> but how can I configure my ide cd to be known as a
> scsi device
You need to pass hdx=ide-scsi to your kernel at boot.  Different
procedure for 
LILO and Grub, but you should be able to figure it out by looking at
either 
/etc/lilo.conf and /boot/grub/menu.lst, depending on what your
using.  BTW, 
substitute the actual ide channel your burner is on for the x in my
example 
above.
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[expert] Mailer problems? Last 20+ posts are missing body part!!! Just me??

2002-10-19 Thread Pierre Fortin

Dunno if this body part will get through; but the last bunch of messages
all came in with the body part completely missing...  just the Mdk
footer...

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Re: [expert] IDE -> SCSI


Thank you for all the help.
I finally
got it working. The Plextor CD-RW was added after the installation of the
OS and would not be detected properly. Even if installed, afterwards, the
ide-scsi module. Because I am evaluating a solution to protect specific
server configurations, I had no regrets when I re-installed MDK 9.0.
Everything was detected properly and all the needed modules were
installed accordingly.
Thanks again.

At 18:27 2002-10-19 -0500, you wrote:
On Saturday October 19 2002 04:00
pm, Richard Laframboise wrote:
> Thanks Tom for the info but how can I configure my ide cd to be
known
> as a scsi device
    They have to be, otherwise they wouldn't work at all,
even under 
windoze ;) There is no such thing as an  'Integrated Drive
Electronics/ 
AT-Attachment' CD-RW without being SCSI emulated, any OS. 
Lilo(conf) 
should have/needs 'ide-scsi' on the kernel parameter append line,
eg,  
somethin like   append=" devfs=mount
hdd=ide-scsi"    and then you 
should see somethin like ...
$ cd /dev
 dev$ ll scd*
lr-xr-xr-x    1 root
root   31 Oct
19 10:38 scd0 -> 
scsi/host0/bus0/target3/lun0/cd
 Another check is to run 'cdrecord -scanbus'   which for
my burner as 
slave on second ide (ide1, hdd) returns
scsibus0:
 |
 0,3,0 3) 'PLEXTOR '
'CD-R   PX-W8432T' '1.09' Removable CD-ROM
  See the relationship bus 0, target 3, lun 0 ... and scd0 ->
?    With 
the same hardware, no config changes, but different Mandrake installs,

my burner was sometimes 0,0,0. Your burner could also be
scd 
depending whether you have other scsi or scsi emulated devices, so 
check your particular install.
  Maybe i don't understand what you're askin ?  mea culpa,
sorry
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>
> At 15:50 2002-10-19 -0500, you wrote:
> >On Saturday October 19 2002 02:15 pm, Richard Laframboise
wrote:
> > > Hi List,
> > >
> > >  I
have an IDE CD burner - Plextor 8/4/32A - How can I
> > > address it as if it was a SCSI device ?
> > >
> > > 
Purpose : To make backups
> >
> >    I've got the same burner, it's slave on ide1
(hdd), and ide-scsi
> >makes it /dev/scd0

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Re: [expert] IDE -> SCSI

2002-10-19 Thread Gregory K. Meyer

On Saturday 19 October 2002 05:00 pm, Richard Laframboise wrote:
> but how can I configure my ide cd to be known as a
> scsi device

You need to pass hdx=ide-scsi to your kernel at boot.  Different procedure for 
LILO and Grub, but you should be able to figure it out by looking at either 
/etc/lilo.conf and /boot/grub/menu.lst, depending on what your using.  BTW, 
substitute the actual ide channel your burner is on for the x in my example 
above.

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Re: [expert] IDE -> SCSI

2002-10-19 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Saturday October 19 2002 04:00 pm, Richard Laframboise wrote:
> Thanks Tom for the info but how can I configure my ide cd to be known
> as a scsi device

They have to be, otherwise they wouldn't work at all, even under 
windoze ;) There is no such thing as an  'Integrated Drive Electronics/ 
AT-Attachment' CD-RW without being SCSI emulated, any OS.  Lilo(conf) 
should have/needs 'ide-scsi' on the kernel parameter append line, eg,  
somethin like   append=" devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi"and then you 
should see somethin like ...

$ cd /dev
 dev$ ll scd*
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   31 Oct 19 10:38 scd0 -> 
scsi/host0/bus0/target3/lun0/cd

 Another check is to run 'cdrecord -scanbus'   which for my burner as 
slave on second ide (ide1, hdd) returns

scsibus0:
 |
 0,3,0 3) 'PLEXTOR ' 'CD-R   PX-W8432T' '1.09' Removable CD-ROM

  See the relationship bus 0, target 3, lun 0 ... and scd0 -> ?With 
the same hardware, no config changes, but different Mandrake installs, 
my burner was sometimes 0,0,0. Your burner could also be scd 
depending whether you have other scsi or scsi emulated devices, so 
check your particular install.

  Maybe i don't understand what you're askin ?  mea culpa, sorry
-- 
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>
> At 15:50 2002-10-19 -0500, you wrote:
> >On Saturday October 19 2002 02:15 pm, Richard Laframboise wrote:
> > > Hi List,
> > >
> > >  I have an IDE CD burner - Plextor 8/4/32A - How can I
> > > address it as if it was a SCSI device ?
> > >
> > >  Purpose : To make backups
> >
> >I've got the same burner, it's slave on ide1 (hdd), and ide-scsi
> >makes it /dev/scd0

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Re: [expert] problems in the kde-adressbook

2002-10-19 Thread Joan Tur

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> Hi !
>
> A week ago I posted a problem with the de-adressbook of Mdk 9.0 . I'm sure
> everyone else will have this problem, since I had this problem on 3
> different machines. So has anyone a suggestion on how to solve that or a
> workaround ?
Just to make you know: it also happens to me.


> The problem:
> The colums width' of some entries is a lot to small. If I change the width
> and save an entry or restarting that application the width is as it was
> before doing anything.
>
> Could you please file a bugreport in bugzilla for this ? If any further 
> infos are  needed I would be glad to provide them.
>
> Thanks
>
> Steffen

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Re: [expert] /mnt/removable

2002-10-19 Thread bascule

hi jack,
i've grepped my entire system! there the word removable cropped up in the perl 
scripts drakconf and diskdrake but i don't think that's responsible for my 
problem - note, i don't speal perl - it also popped up in lots and lots of 
howtos etc. but nowhere could i find anything that seemed to dictate the 
creation of /mnt/removable and the removal of my own created /mnt/camera,
note. i've just checked my /etc/fstab  and there is no line at all for any of 
/dev/sdb1 /mnt/removable /mnt/camera .
i connect my camera and nothing happens, but when i click on the desktop icon 
i made for my camera using /dev/sdb1 and /mnt/camera i get the error message 
'no mention of sdb1 or /mnt/camera in fstab or mtab', fair enough but then 
when i check fstab the following line has appeared:
/dev/sdb1 /mnt/removable auto 
user,iocharset=iso8859-15,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 0
!!!

my only candidate is the following file:
/etc/dynamic/scripts/part.script
but i confess that i can't follow the logic of it!

bascule

On Friday 18 Oct 2002 5:45 pm, Jack Coates wrote:

>
> linuxconf, the assorted drak* tools, webmin... You've already
> established that it isn't msec by grepping its files, so start looking
> at the other suspects.

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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9....Control Center problem

Sorry,

Just keep forgetting to select Options->Format->Plain Text Only in
Mozilla Mail

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Tom Brinkman wrote:

On Saturday October 19 2002 02:20 pm, Sandeep Khanna wrote:

Note: This is a HTML message. For security reasons, only the raw HTML
code is shown. If you trust the sender of this message then you can
activate formatted HTML display for this message by clicking here.

This is Kmail's 1.4.7 warning (KDE 3.1)

Wow,

That was very quick. I am enjoying being on this list.

Another person (Alastair Scott) also mentioned something similar. I
had a little doubt/hint about it myself but, wasn't surte until you
guys are also confirming my doubt. Hope it is the way we think it is.
I am going to experiment with it to be sure. By the way, does anybody
know the time period that we all seem to be mentioning here !

I believe IIRC it's 5 minutes

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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9....Control Center problem

2002-10-19 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Saturday October 19 2002 02:20 pm, Sandeep Khanna wrote:
> Note: This is a HTML message. For security reasons, only the raw HTML
> code is shown. If you trust the sender of this message then you can
> activate formatted HTML display for this message by clicking here.

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>
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Wow,
> 
> That was very quick. I am enjoying being on this list.
> 
> Another person (Alastair Scott) also mentioned something similar. I
> had a little doubt/hint about it myself but, wasn't surte until you
> guys are also confirming my doubt. Hope it is the way we think it is.
> I am going to experiment with it to be sure. By the way, does anybody
> know the time period that we all seem to be mentioning here !

   I believe IIRC it's 5 minutes

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Re: [expert] odd permisions on mounted fat32 drive

2002-10-19 Thread bascule

interesting, is this a recent thing? i've been a newbie for a few years and 
when i first read about umask=0 etc. i don't recall this,  also i suspect 
that where plughead and i have been issuing chmod commands that these 
resulted in 'virtual'? changes, that if i boot into win9xp i would find that 
some of my mp3s were still marked as 'read only', i say this because i had 
this behaviour under 8.2, issued chmod -R 0777 * and was able to edit the 
file tags, yet now under 9.0 some are read only again!
i'm going to re read the man pages now but it could be useful for folk 
searching the archives to clarify this one last point :-)

bascule

On Saturday 19 Oct 2002 8:10 pm, J. Grant wrote:
> Hi bascule, PlugHead and W. Kasberg,
>
> PlugHead you are correct, linux "inteligently" maps the limited FAT
> readonly/system/hidden/archive to its attempt at the unix equiv.
>
> Thus "system" is root only, "hidden" is root too (with no read access to
> dirs i think) "readonly" does not have read flag for anyone. Or some
> variation on this, i forget, i only use fat for legacy stuff now.
>
> Due to the limited options on fat some of the files will not be mapped
> entirely perfectly.  This means that winnt, program files etc can only
> be viewed by root.
>
> bascule, if you read man mount & man fstab you will see all the options
> you need.
>
> JG
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Re: [expert] IDE -> SCSI


Thanks Tom for the info but how can I configure my ide cd to be known as
a scsi device

At 15:50 2002-10-19 -0500, you wrote:
On Saturday October 19 2002 02:15
pm, Richard Laframboise wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>  I have an IDE
CD burner - Plextor 8/4/32A - How can I
> address it as if it was a SCSI device ?
>
>  Purpose : To
make backups
   I've got the same burner, it's slave on ide1 (hdd), and
ide-scsi 
makes it /dev/scd0
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Re: [expert] MySQL not starting at boot

2002-10-19 Thread David Guntner

SainTiss grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> Hmm, what if you manually tell chkconfig to enable it at runlevels 2345?
> 
> like this:
> 
> chkconfig --level 2345 mysql on

# chkconfig --level 2345 mysql on
# chkconfig --list mysql  
mysql   0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off

Hey, that did it!  Thanks!

--Dave

> On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 21:51, David Guntner wrote:
> > This question was asked by someone else earlier, but I never saw a 
> > response.  Sorry if one was given and I was just being blind... :-)
> > 
> > I've done "chkconfig --add mysql" so I know it should be starting.  When 
> > checking the comments at the beginning of the /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql 
> > script, I see:
> > 
> > # Comments to support chkconfig on RedHat Linux
> > # chkconfig: 2345 90 90
> > # description: A very fast and reliable SQL database engine.
> > 
> > Which says that it should be getting started in run levels 2 through 5.  
> > And yet, upoon booting, there's no mysql daemon running.  I have to 
> > manually do a "/etc/init.d/mysql start" to bring it up.  Checking the 
> > startup configuration, I find:
> > 
> > # chkconfig --list mysql
> > mysql   0:off   1:off   2:on3:off   4:on5:off   6:off
> > 
> > Ok, so how come mysql is only set to come in in run levels 2 and 4, when 
> > the comments at the beginning of the script say 2 through 5?
> > 
> > I'm thinking that maybe it's related to running msec level 4.  If that's 
> > the case, how do you override and tell it to allow that service to run at 
> > startup?
> > 
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> > 
> > --Dave
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Re: [expert] IDE -> SCSI

2002-10-19 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Saturday October 19 2002 02:15 pm, Richard Laframboise wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>  I have an IDE CD burner - Plextor 8/4/32A - How can I
> address it as if it was a SCSI device ?
>
>  Purpose : To make backups

   I've got the same burner, it's slave on ide1 (hdd), and ide-scsi 
makes it /dev/scd0
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Re: [expert] MySQL not starting at boot

2002-10-19 Thread SainTiss

Hmm, what if you manually tell chkconfig to enable it at runlevels 2345?

like this:

chkconfig --level 2345 mysql on

Hans

On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 21:51, David Guntner wrote:
> This question was asked by someone else earlier, but I never saw a 
> response.  Sorry if one was given and I was just being blind... :-)
> 
> I've done "chkconfig --add mysql" so I know it should be starting.  When 
> checking the comments at the beginning of the /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql 
> script, I see:
> 
> # Comments to support chkconfig on RedHat Linux
> # chkconfig: 2345 90 90
> # description: A very fast and reliable SQL database engine.
> 
> Which says that it should be getting started in run levels 2 through 5.  
> And yet, upoon booting, there's no mysql daemon running.  I have to 
> manually do a "/etc/init.d/mysql start" to bring it up.  Checking the 
> startup configuration, I find:
> 
> # chkconfig --list mysql
> mysql   0:off   1:off   2:on3:off   4:on5:off   6:off
> 
> Ok, so how come mysql is only set to come in in run levels 2 and 4, when 
> the comments at the beginning of the script say 2 through 5?
> 
> I'm thinking that maybe it's related to running msec level 4.  If that's 
> the case, how do you override and tell it to allow that service to run at 
> startup?
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
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Re: [expert] Still poblems compiling on Mandrake 9.0

2002-10-19 Thread dfox


>Hep

>There seems to be missing files, /lib/crt0.o - however, there is a
>/usr/lib/crt1.o file, which glibc-devel provides. There also seems to be
>a missing libc.a file in /lib. My issue is that I cannot compile even the
>simplest hello world type program, and I get the following output. I've tried
>to figure this one out, no luck so far.

It's bad form to reply to my own post, I suppose, but it looks like the 
problem is fixed. What is missing is a define for LD_LIBRARY_PATH, which
(should) be defined, at least to /lib:/usr/lib . It was not defined, thus not 
able to find the dynamic linker files in /lib. Anyway, that's where the _dl_* 
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Re: [expert] /home/%user backup in multisession CD

2002-10-19 Thread Gabriel Phoenix

On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 15:06, Michael Holt wrote:
> I've also found that cd/rw's can be a risk - they do on a occasion, 
> corrupt information.  I have proof of that sitting on my desk.  The 
> problem is that you don't know ahead of time when that's going to happen, 
> so I would make sure to use a more proven back up media on regular 
> occasions (maybe tape) if you have something you really don't want to 
> lose.
> 
> mike

Opps forgot the verifying stage - very important in backups - always
verify - never assume. I make an image then verify that against the
burn. This checks for when the toc gets written and the information is
not there.

I had burner where the lubrication on the guide failed and before it
crapped out gave me dozens of CDRs with subtle errors (a file or two).
That is when I learned to always verify. Found a program on Windoze
which would do sophisticated checksums tests and I did them against my
burns. Another program, 'CDR Diagnostics' does low level checks. Yes, it
can retrieve information from a CDR that normally cannot be read.

Have not come across anything like that for *nix.

As for durability, I am still surprised at the cheapo CDRW I have been
using for over two (three?) years now and still working. I use better
quality CDRW for my /home directory thou.

As for method depends on the level of redundancy you want and how
paranoid you are, no?

This method is simple and works for me. I keep my /home under 800 Megs
so I can simply burn a copy. This allows me to retrieve a given file by
reading it off the backup CD. Something not that easy to do with tape.
Not to mention it eliminates the additional expense of using tape.

Now of course this is impractical once you get past a few CDs. Nor does
it work for backing up the contents of a 20 Gig drive.

As for archiving? I make two copies, both verified, just in case.

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[expert] MySQL not starting at boot

2002-10-19 Thread David Guntner

This question was asked by someone else earlier, but I never saw a 
response.  Sorry if one was given and I was just being blind... :-)

I've done "chkconfig --add mysql" so I know it should be starting.  When 
checking the comments at the beginning of the /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql 
script, I see:

# Comments to support chkconfig on RedHat Linux
# chkconfig: 2345 90 90
# description: A very fast and reliable SQL database engine.

Which says that it should be getting started in run levels 2 through 5.  
And yet, upoon booting, there's no mysql daemon running.  I have to 
manually do a "/etc/init.d/mysql start" to bring it up.  Checking the 
startup configuration, I find:

# chkconfig --list mysql
mysql   0:off   1:off   2:on3:off   4:on5:off   6:off

Ok, so how come mysql is only set to come in in run levels 2 and 4, when 
the comments at the beginning of the script say 2 through 5?

I'm thinking that maybe it's related to running msec level 4.  If that's 
the case, how do you override and tell it to allow that service to run at 
startup?

Any help would be appreciated.

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[expert] Still poblems compiling on Mandrake 9.0

2002-10-19 Thread dfox


Hep

There seems to be missing files, /lib/crt0.o - however, there is a 
/usr/lib/crt1.o file, which glibc-devel provides. There also seems to be
a missing libc.a file in /lib. My issue is that I cannot compile even the 
simplest hello world type program, and I get the following output. I've tried 
to figure this one out, no luck so far. 

I've gotten all the components for gcc and g++ installed, but I don't think 
it's a problem with the compiler RPMs. I do think there's a problem, maybe 
with the glibc and/or glibc-devel RPMs. I'm on a new stock install of 9.0.

I seem to remember a way to create a *.a library archive file out of a shared
object file, which would mean not having to download a potentially large file, 
if it turns out that file is necessary. 

Compiling worked in 8.1 - although I would still get these wierd unresolved 
symbols from time to time while compiling portions of KDE. Actually, that
part hasn't worked since maybe perhaps 7.2, if at all. It's, sadly, been a 
rather long time since I was 100% successful compiling KDE (sniff).

This is what happens during linking:

/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Any help? In particular, where are these defined - what library could I 
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Re: [expert] odd permisions on mounted fat32 drive

2002-10-19 Thread Barry Michels

On Saturday 19 October 2002 03:17 pm, Ron Stodden wrote:
> Also, Windows file names permit only one period (after which is the
> extension), whereas Linux files can have an unlimited number of periods.
>This means that when Windows has to handle a Linux file, it renames
> it so that all the periods except the last are changed to underscores.
>   After that there is no way of telling whether an underscore was a
> period or an underscore.   Important information is thereby permanently
> lost.
>
> So never use Windows to download Linux files, period!

I used a shared FAT32 drive to backup my home directory and all the files in 
my maildir folders were scrambled.  I had to make a script to send a From 
line to a folder followed by the message and loop through all the files.  
Then Kmail would read it as a mbox file.  I'm really glad it was recoverable.

I've got 2 100GB drives (one in each PC) that are FAT32, leftovers from 
converting over to Linux.  I'm working on moving files off to convert to 
ext3.  So far, one is done.  I gotta get gigabit ethernet cards.  :)

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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9....Control Center problem

Wow,

That was very quick. I am enjoying being on this list.

Another person (Alastair Scott) also mentioned something similar. I had a
little doubt/hint about it myself but, wasn't surte until you guys are also
confirming my doubt. Hope it is the way we think it is. I am going to experiment
with it to be sure. By the way, does anybody know the time period that we
all seem to be mentioning here !

--Sandeep

Dale Huckeby wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Sandeep Khanna wrote:

If I start Mandrake 9 Control center once as a normal user and enter the
root password. Noe, Close it. After this it never asks me for the root
password Freaky security

Also, If you start any of the Software Install, Software Uninstall after
starting the Control Center, it won't ask passwords for them too !!!

Something is seriously wrong with this release !! So many bugs, so many
mistakes.How did they release it so soon

Calm down. You obviously haven't investigated very thoroughly. It's
not true that it NEVER asks you for the root password again. Instead,
the root password remains good for a given number of minutes, THEN if you
start MCC again you have to login as root again. This is in fact one
of the most bug-free releases I've seen, especially for an x.0 release.
You don't need to get hysterical.

Dale Huckeby

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[expert] IDE -> SCSI

Hi List,

I have an IDE CD burner - Plextor 8/4/32A - How can I address it 
as if it was a SCSI device ?

Purpose : To make backups

Thanks

Richard





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Re: [expert] odd permisions on mounted fat32 drive

2002-10-19 Thread Ron Stodden

J. Grant wrote:

Hi bascule, PlugHead and W. Kasberg,

PlugHead you are correct, linux "inteligently" maps the limited FAT 
readonly/system/hidden/archive to its attempt at the unix equiv.

Thus "system" is root only, "hidden" is root too (with no read access to 
dirs i think) "readonly" does not have read flag for anyone. Or some 
variation on this, i forget, i only use fat for legacy stuff now.

Due to the limited options on fat some of the files will not be mapped 
entirely perfectly.  This means that winnt, program files etc can only 
be viewed by root.

Also, Windows file names permit only one period (after which is the 
extension), whereas Linux files can have an unlimited number of periods. 
  This means that when Windows has to handle a Linux file, it renames 
it so that all the periods except the last are changed to underscores. 
 After that there is no way of telling whether an underscore was a 
period or an underscore.   Important information is thereby permanently 
lost.

So never use Windows to download Linux files, period!

--
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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9....Control Center problem

2002-10-19 Thread David Guntner

Sandeep Khanna grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> 
> If I start Mandrake 9 Control center once as a normal user and enter the 
> root password. Noe, Close it. After this it never asks me for the root 
> password  Freaky security 

It could be that it's using some kind of cookie (or something) to remember 
what you entered the first time, provided you got it right.  Does this 
happen after you've logged out and logged back in?

> Also, If you start any of the Software Install, Software Uninstall after 
> starting the Control Center, it won't ask passwords for them too !!!

That part makes sense.  If you've provided the right root password when you 
started Mandrake Control Center (drakconf), then it's running as root.  
When it, in turn, starts something else, it's going to be starting it as 
root - so no root password is needed again because the program already has 
the permissions it needs.

  --Dave
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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9....Control Center problem

Hi,

Thanks for your reply. I kind of understand what you are saying here. It
does make sense. And, Yes, I saw the root being logged out at the shell
prompt after a certain period of inactivity.

So, Does that mean, this same principle is also applied to the Mandrake
Control Center? meaning, I open the Mandrake Control Center in the
night and close it. And, leave the computer as it is throughout the
night. I try to open Mandrake Control centrer in the morning and it
would ask me for the root password ! Would it?

--Sandeep

Alastair Scott wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:56:25 -0400 Sandeep Khanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi All,

If I start Mandrake 9 Control center once as a normal user and enter the
root password. Noe, Close it. After this it never asks me for the root
password Freaky security

Also, If you start any of the Software Install, Software Uninstall after
starting the Control Center, it won't ask passwords for them too !!!

Why should they?

I think the designers have made a perfectly reasonable assumption that, if
user A is logged in and has opened the MCC (or embedded applications) once
after being asked for the root password, if A is still logged in the same
person is sitting behind the computer and shouldn't have to enter the root
password again on opening the MCC.

A 'more secure' installation would force the root password to be entered at
every possible point it could be entered, and time any shell out logged in
as root for too long, but would also be irritating to use.

Alastair

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Re: [expert] Writing blank CDs...

2002-10-19 Thread Ron Stodden

Pierre Fortin wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 15:39:08 +1000 Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:



Yes, you must 'loop mount' the ISO images, then you can copy out all the

files and get the tree back.



That can't be all...  that gives a tree with Mandrake/{RPMS,RPMS2,RPMS3}
which is what got us in the pickle we're in -- 3 sets of files already
separated into the CD images...  I've tried recombining the RPMS*
directories into RPMS...  

Yes, put them all in one RPMS


Every attempt at running MakeCD generates TONS of errors:
WARNING scoreList:  has zero size
autodeps: ignoring 
WARNING buildDisc: group 1 REJECTED  (not selected in rpm lists:
)
etc...


There is no scoreList package in the 9.0 tree (which zero size might be 
trying to tell you), so you have gone off the rails somewhere.   You 
have only quoted warnings, not errors.

A normal good run of MakeCD generates pages and pages of messages and 
warnings, yes.   Nevertheless the resulting CDs are good.

Back to the "number of CDs" issue:  I've only got a few hours before
making that trip...  If I can't get 9.0 on CDs, I may just say "fsck it!"
and wait for 9.1 in the hopes the false-economy issue has been revisited
by saner heads...


I don't recall, but what was the problem with burning the ISO image 
files that you apparently have on to 700MB blanks?

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Re: [expert] /home/%user backup in multisession CD

2002-10-19 Thread Michael Holt

I've also found that cd/rw's can be a risk - they do on a occasion, 
corrupt information.  I have proof of that sitting on my desk.  The 
problem is that you don't know ahead of time when that's going to happen, 
so I would make sure to use a more proven back up media on regular 
occasions (maybe tape) if you have something you really don't want to 
lose.

mike



On 19 Oct 2002, Gabriel Phoenix uttered these words of wisdom:

>A simpler *backup* (not archiving) solution is do is cycle CDRWs.
>
>On a four-week cycle, you use four CDRWs, one for each week.
>
>I record the date in the Volume label of the CDRW.
>
>When you get to week five you re-use the first week CDRW and start
>another cycle. This is repeated every week there after.
>
>So 4 -> 1 (burn this one)
>   3 -> 4 (move this one)
>   2 -> 3 (move this one)
>   1 -> 2 (move this one)
>
>I don't label my CDRWs so I can simply by moving them from one numbered
>cases to another.
>
>You can semi-automate this procedure with a script - still have to
>insert a CDRW thou.
>
>The result is you have four weeks of backups (or more if you like) and
>only have to burn one CDRW a week. No need to worry about multisessions
>at all.
>
>Gabriel
>
>
>

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[expert] Mandrake 9.0 CD ISO SIzes

2002-10-19 Thread Will Merkens

On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:01:09 -0500 Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

  > On Wednesday October 16 2002 09:58 am, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> 

> > ARGHHH!  Worse!!!  What appeared to be under *700*, wasn't:
> >681836544 Mar 18  2002 Mandrake82-cd1-inst.i586.iso
> >680624128 Mar 18  2002 Mandrake82-cd2-ext.i586.iso
> >679739392 Mar 18  2002 Mandrake82-cd3-supp.i586.iso
> >  * 728334336 Sep 29 03:24 Mandrake90-cd1-inst.i586.iso
> >  * 73358 Sep 29 17:00 Mandrake90-cd2-ext.i586.iso
> >478511104 Sep 30 01:51 Mandrake90-cd3-i18n.i586.is

  > 
>73358 bytes == 699.6 MB   and easily fits on a 700MB CD

>Apparently not with _xcdroast_...  it just "burned" a blank disk...  I
>just burned 8.2 successfully on the *same* platter that xcdroast claimed
>was burned with 9.0  I'm burning 9.0 with -overburn right now...  of
>course, that can only be done with _cdrecord_ directly since xcdroast does
>not appear to have support for overburn and many other cdrecord options.

>xcdroast also claims there is no ATIP info, yet cdrecord gave:
>  ATIP start of lead in:  -11634 (97:26/66)
>  ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
>on that same platter...

>Bottom line:  GUI frontends generally suck!

>Pierre

using XCDroast Version 0.98Alpha10 on Mandrake 8.2 with a TEAC CD-W516EB (16x burner)

First I have seen a bunch of messages over the last few days complaining that the ISO images are too big, some info is needed here for people.

that size you see is not just the data of that image, its comprised of a few parts.

 Lead in track
 TOC
 Data track (In mode 1 there is only one track, in Mode 2/XA there could be multle tracks)
 Lead out Track 

so when you look at a cdr blank, lets say 80m/700meg cdr that 700 meg is for data, what is not shown is TOC, leadin/leadout sizes.

a typical TOC for a ISO9660 disc is 23meg and 15meg for every track after the 1st, in the case of Mode2/XA disc's

A full description of what happens is documented in the Yellow Book for CD by Phillips.

(Note I prob do not have the absoulute correct method for ISO9660 described here, couldn't find my docs, did it from memory)

Secound, burning with XCDRoast

be upto date, make sure the XCDRoast is current, this is a must, as support for newer burners are always being updated.

in XCDRoast go to "Create CD -> Write Tracks" on the right side under parameters is a switch for Overburning, also there is selector for choosing 74 or 80 minute media.

Third, choosing a burner

I don't want to start a war here but I have gone through several burners since I got my first one.

	HP  ( Had the 4020i, went through 5 of them)
	Yamaha  ( have both 426 and the 8424 scsi, both worked flawlessly)
	Teac( have TEAC CD-W516EB, First IDE, in my main Linux, works flawlessly, use XCDRoast for cutting ISO)
	Plextor ( have 16/10/40a, Works fine, use in my windows enviroment, have cut Mandrake ISO no prob with CDRWIN)
	LiteOn  ( have 40/12/48, Best burner I have, Works flawlessly including all RAW DAO modes and 90/99 minute cd's)
( Have used CDRWin/NERO/CloneCD and have cut all Mandrake cd's from 8.0-9.0 versions)

My Teac/Plextor/LiteOn all have Burn proof systems and is supported in XCDRoast

I have seen here that a major amount of problems seem to occur with HP 8200/8700/7xxx Burners, and I have seen many a complaint over those models of HP burners.

By the way burning slower in not always good, if you are using the colorless/near colorless media such as,

Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2)
ATIP start of lead in:  -11634 (97:26/66)
ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74)
Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar)
Manuf. index: 3
Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation
Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 60143

They are not intended to be burned at less than 4x, this can cause errors, if you want to burn slow you need the disk type with long strategy type of dye.

In Canada, a LiteOn bare bones oem drive (40/12/48) is $95CDN or a retail 48/12/48 is only $120CDN, so it's pretty cheap to replace a burner.

Here is a complete output from XCDRoas cutting Mandrake 9.0 ISO cd2 from my TEAC on Mandrake 8.2

Calling: /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.98/bin/xcdrwrap CDRECORD dev= "0,0,0" fs=4096k driveropts=burnfree -v -useinfo speed=16 -dao -eject -pad -data "Mandrake90-cd2-ext.i586.iso" ...

scsidev: '0,0,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.22
pregap1: -1
Cdrecord 1.11a19 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
Using libscg version 'schily-0.6'
Driveropts: 'burnfree'
atapi: 1
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 1
Vendor_info: 'TEAC'
Identifikation : 'CD-W516EB   '
Revision   : '1.0A'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
Suppo

Re: [expert] Mandrake 9....Control Center problem

2002-10-19 Thread Dale Huckeby

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Sandeep Khanna wrote:

> If I start Mandrake 9 Control center once as a normal user and enter the 
> root password. Noe, Close it. After this it never asks me for the root 
> password  Freaky security 
> 
> Also, If you start any of the Software Install, Software Uninstall after 
> starting the Control Center, it won't ask passwords for them too !!!
> 
> Something is seriously wrong with this release !! So many bugs, so many 
> mistakes.How did they release it so soon 

  Calm down.  You obviously haven't investigated very thoroughly.  It's
not true that it NEVER asks you for the root password again.  Instead,
the root password remains good for a given number of minutes, THEN if you
start MCC again you have to login as root again.  This is in fact one
of the most bug-free releases I've seen, especially for an x.0 release.
You don't need to get hysterical.

Dale Huckeby

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Re: [expert] Localization problems

2002-10-19 Thread Denis Kukharev

19 ïËÔÑÂÒØ 2002 20:18, ÷Ù ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌÉ:

> Can you try different fonts in KDE's font panel?

Yes, but with no effect.  
I've found out the following: when I set anti-aliasing in KDE's font panel, I 
get russian letters in Desktop!  Still Konqueror and other programs don't 
want to do well... And I'd like to do without anti-aliasing, because it blurs 
letters.





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Re: [expert] Writing blank CDs...

2002-10-19 Thread Randy Kramer

On Saturday 19 October 2002 05:35 am, Serge Hänni wrote:
> CD3 is the International-CD. There is all the translation stuff on
> it.

Serge,

Thanks!

Randy Kramer



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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9....Control Center problem

2002-10-19 Thread Alastair Scott

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:56:25 -0400 Sandeep Khanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> If I start Mandrake 9 Control center once as a normal user and enter the 
> root password. Noe, Close it. After this it never asks me for the root 
> password  Freaky security 
> 
> Also, If you start any of the Software Install, Software Uninstall after 
> starting the Control Center, it won't ask passwords for them too !!!

Why should they?

I think the designers have made a perfectly reasonable assumption that, if
user A is logged in and has opened the MCC (or embedded applications) once
after being asked for the root password, if A is still logged in the same
person is sitting behind the computer and shouldn't have to enter the root
password again on opening the MCC.

A 'more secure' installation would force the root password to be entered at
every possible point it could be entered, and  time any shell out logged in
as root for too long, but would also be irritating to use.

Alastair

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[expert] syslog - mysql

2002-10-19 Thread tarvid

looking for the easiest way to get syslogs in mysql.

I want to do things like find all the user machines that attempted SMTP 
connections through the border gateway router.

we do a lot of remote logging so ideally this is a syslogd daemon replacement 
rather than client replacements.

Jim Tarvid


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[expert] Re: SOLVED Potential serious problem with Shorewall.

2002-10-19 Thread Sebastien Routier

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|
|
| Sebastien Routier wrote:
|
|> Hi,
|>
|> Using Mandrake 9.0 and Shorewall 1.3.8
|>
...
|>
|> My PC has two or three NIC:
|> - eth0 connected to my cable modem.
|> - eth1 connected to my hub.
|> - usb0 connected to my Zaurus, this interface is not permanent, it is
|> there when the Zaurus is turn on and plug in the PC through a USB
|> port. But as soon as you un-plug the Zaurus the interface disapear.
|>
|> It was all working fine until I decided to connect my PDA (SHARP
|> Zaurus SL-5500) on the network using usbdnet. Initially it worked fine
|> but I eventually removed my PDA from the docking station and turned
|> off the PC. Next time I booted the PC Shorewall failed with this error:
|>
|>  Shorewall restart ouput START -
|> [root@hydrogen shorewall]# service shorewall restart
|> Processing /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf ...
|> Processing /etc/shorewall/params ...
|> Shorewall Not Currently Running
|> Starting Shorewall...
...
|>Policy ACCEPT for zaurus to net using chain zaurus2net
|> Masqueraded Subnets and Hosts:
|>To 0.0.0.0/0 from eth1 through eth0
|> Device "usb0" does not exist.
|> /sbin/service: line 148: 23899 Terminated  $debug
|> $servicedir/$service $options
|>  Shorewall restart ouput END -
|>
|> Shorewall complains about a inexistent usb0 device!?!? Well of course
|> since my Zarus was not connected ?!?! It failed leaving my system wide
|> open ?!? That is not good
|
|
| Your system was NOT wide open. Shorewall is designed to leave your
| system in a safe state if it dies during startup.

After a few other tests, it looks like your are right, I jumped to
conclusion here, sorry if I made you jump out of your seat...

|
|>
|> Does any body know of a way to configure an optional interface in
|> Shorewall, or would you have anyother idea to prevent Shorewall from
|> failing if an interface does not exists?
|>
|
| Yes RTFM -- If you put a device name in the SUBNET column in
| /etc/shorewall/masq then that device must be started before Shorewall
| will start. If there is a possibility (as in your case) that the
| interface will not be started then you will have to place an address
| (host or subnet) in that column.
|
| -Tom


Thanks Tom Yes RTFM was the answer, it all works like a charm
(almost) now. To go from a 2 NIC PC to a 2 NIC with the Zaurus the only
thing I had to do was modify the file /etc/shorewall/masq by adding a
single line:
eth0  192.168.129.0/24

Now the only issue is that if the Zaurus is both connected and turned on
before and while the PC boots, the usb0 interface is not configured
properly. I suspect this to be a minor problem with hotplug. Once the PC
has finished booting if I turn off the Zaurus and turn it back on,
hotplug configures the usb0 interface properly and every thing else
works fine. Shorewall side of things seam to work fine.

Thanks.
/Sebast.


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Re: [expert] odd permisions on mounted fat32 drive

2002-10-19 Thread J. Grant

Hi bascule, PlugHead and W. Kasberg,

PlugHead you are correct, linux "inteligently" maps the limited FAT 
readonly/system/hidden/archive to its attempt at the unix equiv.

Thus "system" is root only, "hidden" is root too (with no read access to 
dirs i think) "readonly" does not have read flag for anyone. Or some 
variation on this, i forget, i only use fat for legacy stuff now.

Due to the limited options on fat some of the files will not be mapped 
entirely perfectly.  This means that winnt, program files etc can only 
be viewed by root.

bascule, if you read man mount & man fstab you will see all the options 
you need.

JG


W. Kasberg wrote:
On Friday 18 October 2002 09:51, James Sparenberg wrote:


This is normal... You can't set permissions on a fat32 disk... file
system won't do that.  So whomever or whatever mounts the partition,
gets reported by Linux as the owner since it has to report something
when you do an ls-l As far as Linux is concerned all files are readable
and executable on a fat32 sysem.  Since yours seems to get mounted
during boot root is mounting it so Linux reports root as the owner.

James



I have a similar but more serious problem with the filesystem of win2000 
(fat32)
I can see all directopries. But i cannot got into some system directories 
(i.e. winnt and programs). They appear to be empty (but that is not true).
Into all the "normal" directories can go into and work with files and 
subdirectories.
If I boot to win2000 I don't have any problem all works fine.
This behaviour (as I think) appeared at my PC since I used Mdk 8.2 and now 
also with Mdk9.0.

The same is also with another windows partition (Win98).

It would be great if I could get a hint what to do because I cant use wine. 
Wine does not recognize my installed window parttions and I also can't start 
with a 'fake wine system'  any program which is in thoose directories.

W. Kasberg



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[expert] Mandrake 9....Control Center problem

Hi All,

If I start Mandrake 9 Control center once as a normal user and enter the 
root password. Noe, Close it. After this it never asks me for the root 
password  Freaky security 

Also, If you start any of the Software Install, Software Uninstall after 
starting the Control Center, it won't ask passwords for them too !!!

Something is seriously wrong with this release !! So many bugs, so many 
mistakes.How did they release it so soon 

--Sandeep


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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9....OpenOffice keeps on closing !!!

Hi,

Thanks for your suggestion. But, I don't think it is that way. Firstly, I
do not have any OpenOffice instances running/open initially. Secondly, If
we do have an instance of OpenOffice running then it is designed so as to
use that as a server process thus speeding up the loading of any other OpenOffice
component. So, If you have OpenOffice Math open, and you try to open OpenOffice
Writer...then it would just load faster rather than just trying to open OpenOffice
Writer on it's own.

Thanks again,

--Sandeep

Jan Wilson wrote:

* Sandeep Khanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021018 14:37]:

My laptop has Mandrake 9 installed. Whenever I start OpenOffice, the
first time it inevitably closes down after a short glimpse of it. But,
after persistently trying it 3-4 times it finally shows up !! Also, If I
completely delete the ~/.openoffice directory then it starts just fine
even the first time !!!

Any hints, helps, suggestions?

I teach classes using OpenOffice.org every day, and this happens every
once in a while. What it usually means is there is already a process
running which you have lost, and it won't allow you to start a new
one.

Open a terminal and type:

ps -u $USER | grep soffice

You should see something like this:

5642 ?00:00:28 soffice.bin
5666 ?00:00:00 soffice.bin
5667 ?00:00:00 soffice.bin
5668 ?00:00:00 soffice.bin
5684 ?00:00:00 soffice.bin
5685 ?00:00:00 soffice.bin

Try killing the first one, like this:

kill 5642

That should kill the running process, and then you can start
OpenOffice as usual. It might be worth writing a script to do this,
with a name like killoffice.

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Re: [expert] how to use LS-120 ?

On Saturday 19 October 2002 12:32 pm, hans privat wrote:
> hi,
> have a little problem in understanding the following:
> have an LS-120 drive.
> in dmesg I can see it as a hdc, which would be correct. In the file
> /etc/fstab I can see again as an entry : floppy on /dev/hdc ... options
> i.e.
>
> but in /dev I doesn't have an entry hdc@ - all what I can see here are :
> hda@ up to hda11@, hdb@ up to hdb6@ and hdd@ which also have a correct
> entry to /dev/cdrom (is a link;)
>
> think for this reason I see a "closed floppy" in konqueror or nautilus.
> does anyone know, how I can do the trick, that the "LS-120" can be used
> as a floppy, mounted on /dev/hdc ?
>
> thanks for your ideas and helps
> bye hans
You might want to try accessing it with /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/part.
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Re: [expert] /home/%user backup in multisession CD

2002-10-19 Thread Gabriel Phoenix

On Sat, 2002-10-19 at 11:07, Gonzalo Avaria wrote:
> Hi all, i want to make one little question. Here it
> is... :)
> - I would like to make backups or my user folder on
> the home, that is, i want to make a multisession CD
> that i could go creating folders with the contents of
> my "/home/gonzalo" like every month or week. How can i
> do that?. I have a ASUS 8x4x32 IDE-CD R/RW. 
> 
> Well if you need mor info i will send it to you.
> thanks for your time
> PS: I'm using MDK 9.0

A simpler *backup* (not archiving) solution is do is cycle CDRWs.

On a four-week cycle, you use four CDRWs, one for each week.

I record the date in the Volume label of the CDRW.

When you get to week five you re-use the first week CDRW and start
another cycle. This is repeated every week there after.

So 4 -> 1 (burn this one)
   3 -> 4 (move this one)
   2 -> 3 (move this one)
   1 -> 2 (move this one)

I don't label my CDRWs so I can simply by moving them from one numbered
cases to another.

You can semi-automate this procedure with a script - still have to
insert a CDRW thou.

The result is you have four weeks of backups (or more if you like) and
only have to burn one CDRW a week. No need to worry about multisessions
at all.

Gabriel

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[expert] how to use LS-120 ?

2002-10-19 Thread hans privat

hi,
have a little problem in understanding the following:
have an LS-120 drive.
in dmesg I can see it as a hdc, which would be correct. In the file
/etc/fstab I can see again as an entry : floppy on /dev/hdc ... options
i.e.

but in /dev I doesn't have an entry hdc@ - all what I can see here are :
hda@ up to hda11@, hdb@ up to hdb6@ and hdd@ which also have a correct
entry to /dev/cdrom (is a link;)

think for this reason I see a "closed floppy" in konqueror or nautilus.
does anyone know, how I can do the trick, that the "LS-120" can be used
as a floppy, mounted on /dev/hdc ?

thanks for your ideas and helps
bye hans





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Re: [expert] Writing blank CDs...

2002-10-19 Thread Pierre Fortin

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 15:39:08 +1000 Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Pierre Fortin wrote:
> 
> > What does MakeCD/mkcd expect to see as source?  I have the current 3
> > ISOs mounted; but I suspect it may want an rsync tree...  if so, do
> > you have a quick tip for creating one from the ISOs (prefer not to
> > waste more time redownloading everything)?
> 
> Yes, you must 'loop mount' the ISO images, then you can copy out all the
> 
> files and get the tree back.

That can't be all...  that gives a tree with Mandrake/{RPMS,RPMS2,RPMS3}
which is what got us in the pickle we're in -- 3 sets of files already
separated into the CD images...  I've tried recombining the RPMS*
directories into RPMS...  

Every attempt at running MakeCD generates TONS of errors:
WARNING scoreList:  has zero size
autodeps: ignoring 
WARNING buildDisc: group 1 REJECTED  (not selected in rpm lists:
)
etc...

Any idea if there is a ResizeCD tool to go from ISOs as distributed to
ISOs of my choice of size...?

Running out of timeJust got a call from my friend; she just
got her WalMart computer...  right off the bat, the *mouse* is really a
trackball, and it doesn't work!  Actually, it worked for a few moments... 
talked her husband through resetting the root password, in order to issue
"init 3" which does not shutdown the X server...  looks like when I get
there (5 hour drive) this w/e, I may be cursing Microtel/WalMart...  This
is NOT how to win new converts to Linux!!

Back to the "number of CDs" issue:  I've only got a few hours before
making that trip...  If I can't get 9.0 on CDs, I may just say "fsck it!"
and wait for 9.1 in the hopes the false-economy issue has been revisited
by saner heads...

Pierre

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[expert] Still having problems with desktop links

2002-10-19 Thread Ken Thompson

Licq, Everybuddy and most near anything I try to make a link to refuses to 
run. Licq will run as root.
I've downloaded ant tried Yahoo Messenger and it works OK as user.. I can send 
a "strace" of licq if it will help.. One thing I've noticed with all programs 
starting from the CLi is this error:
fcntl: Bad file descriptor
fcntl: Bad file descriptor
fcntl: Bad file descriptor
fcntl: Bad file descriptor
fcntl: Bad file descriptor
Anyone have a cure.. ? ? ? ? ?
Machine is
Epox 8KTA3L
Athalon 1200
512Mb mem
Maxtor 80Gb Hdd
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Re: [expert] /home/%user backup in multisession CD

2002-10-19 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 09:19 -0700, Michael Holt wrote:
> I haven't used the multisession option myself (under linux), I've done it 
> in the past under windows but it's not very efficient.  Everytime you open 
> and close a cdr it takes actually quite a bit of room on the disc 
> 
> http://www.roxio.com/en/support/cdr/multisession.html
> 
> This is a windows burning tool that gives a little explaination of what 
> multisession does.
> 
> As I said, I don't use it, but I have seen the option under 'gcombust' so 
> I believe that just checking the box would do the trick.
> 
> http://www.abo.fi/~jmunsin/gcombust/FAQ.shtml
> 
> This is another little faq that could help you troubleshoot if you have 
> problems - but I wouldn't modify anything until you've actually tried to 
> burn a disc and found it didn't work.
> 
> There are quite a few gui clients already packaged for mandrake, most of 
> them have 'buttons' that cover the options you're looking for.

And if you want to do it in a text terminal:

Task: Save /home/gonzalo on a multi-session CD-R

Pre-Task: Determine which device is your CDRW:

Open a text console (xterm) and su to root.

Type: cdrecord --scanbus

The output shows your device in the format 0,0,0. You only need the
second and third number.

# cd /home/gonzalo

1. Make an image of the data:

# mkisofs -R -L -T -o foo.raw /home/gonzalo

where 'foo.raw' is a given name whatever suits you, the date of
the backup like 10192002.raw as example.

2. Burn this image as first track on a new CD-R:

# cdrecord -multi -v speed=2 dev=0,0 ./foo.raw

where 'dev=0,0' is the device you determined earlier.
And you can of course change the speed!

3. Determine Start and End of the track:

# cdrecord -msinfo dev=0,0

which puts out 2 numbers like this:

start,end

4. Make an image for the next track:

# mkisofs -R -L -T -C start,end -M 4,0 -o foo.raw /home/gonzalo

where you need to put in the 'sart,end' numbers you determined in
step 2. And you may change the name 'foo.raw' into something
sensible.

5. Burn next track:

# cdrecord -multi -v speed=2 dev=4,0 ./foo.raw

After that you can go on by repeating steps 3 to 5

Thats what I'm doing all the time (if I'm not too lazy) 

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Re: [expert] Writing blank CDs...

2002-10-19 Thread g

Ron Stodden wrote:

> It's a difficult situation, but optical technology, while having
> enormous potential, is far from stable and mature - and we have another
> generstion of incompatibilities (ie more expense on drives) among
> optical devices ahead of us as DVDs and DVD writers emerge and CDs
> become entirely obsolete (very soon now, I think).   So you have to
> kind-of wait - there is always something better around the corner.
> Prices have been dropping, but even so, the drive makers must be really
> raking in the dough.

not just optical technology, but any technology must be paid for.

technology is always out dated when it reaches public, because, before it is
ever released to public, marketing drags butt trying to figure out how much
can be made above and way beyond cost of development and manufacturing.

while marketing is delaying, research is continuing, so that when production
finally gets a produce to public, research has developed something better.
to recover expenses, new is held back until manufacturing uses up current
material. then what was new is released to manufacturing, by which time
research has already come up with a newer new. then, all is repeated.

never buy first of anything. too many bugs need to be worked out for production
of second. then wait for a 5th release, as 3rd and 4th are still recovering.
7th and 8th are best, as by that time, competition is to a point where product
is finally down to cost of where it should have been to start with. but, by
then, there will be something newer and greater released.

cdrom is a prime example of this. if you read history, you will find that dvd
was developed well before cdrom was halfway thru it's development and speeds.

problems what that too much was continued to be spent develop cdrom just to
recover initial cost. dvd is going to be slow to drop in price compared to
cdrom, simply because dvd is actually cheaper than cdrom.

peace out.

tc,hago.

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[expert] jpilot and pine

2002-10-19 Thread Michael Holt

Hello, I'm looking for a method to sync my visor pda with pine which is my 
email client.  I've been looking around on the net, but haven't found 
anything.  Any thoughts?

Mike

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[expert] what port

2002-10-19 Thread daRcmaTTeR

Hi list,

I installed a new firewall today on my server, Shorewall. I'm really 
impressed with this package and I've gotten everything configured except 
for printing. Anyone know what port needs to be open so that printing 
can resume? On the LAN I've got 137-139 open because the printer is 
being shared with Samba. On the server things are being taken care of by 
Cups. So, it would appear the only thing missing in this equation is the 
opening of the correct port.

At the moment I've opened ipp, (631), and 515 (printer) as is listed in 
/etc/services. Still printing does not happen. The Cups server is 
running as is Samba. I've already attempted to print from the server 
itself from webmin, but to no avail. The message I get when trying to 
print from Webmin when checking on the printer is:

lpr: unable to print file: server-error-not-accepting-jobs

.. command failed!

any ideas?

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Re: [expert] /home/%user backup in multisession CD

2002-10-19 Thread Michael Holt

I haven't used the multisession option myself (under linux), I've done it 
in the past under windows but it's not very efficient.  Everytime you open 
and close a cdr it takes actually quite a bit of room on the disc 

http://www.roxio.com/en/support/cdr/multisession.html

This is a windows burning tool that gives a little explaination of what 
multisession does.

As I said, I don't use it, but I have seen the option under 'gcombust' so 
I believe that just checking the box would do the trick.

http://www.abo.fi/~jmunsin/gcombust/FAQ.shtml

This is another little faq that could help you troubleshoot if you have 
problems - but I wouldn't modify anything until you've actually tried to 
burn a disc and found it didn't work.

There are quite a few gui clients already packaged for mandrake, most of 
them have 'buttons' that cover the options you're looking for.

Mike


On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Gonzalo Avaria uttered these words of wisdom:

>Hi all, i want to make one little question. Here it
>is... :)
>- I would like to make backups or my user folder on
>the home, that is, i want to make a multisession CD
>that i could go creating folders with the contents of
>my "/home/gonzalo" like every month or week. How can i
>do that?. I have a ASUS 8x4x32 IDE-CD R/RW. 
>
>Well if you need mor info i will send it to you.
>thanks for your time
>PS: I'm using MDK 9.0
>
>
>=
>Gonzalo Avaria
>Alumno de Licenciatura en Fisica
>Facultad de Cs. Fisicas y Matematicas
>Universidad de Concepcion
>CHILE
>
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>
>

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Re: [expert] Localization problems

On Saturday 19 October 2002 10:45 am, Denis Kukharev wrote:
> 18 ïËÔÑÂÒØ 2002 22:51, ÷Ù ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌÉ:
> > I've got Mandrake 8.2 and need russian localization.
> > When I select russian language and country "Russia" in KDE, it's OK
> > (windows, menus, etc. all in Russian) except icons on the Desktop!
> > Icons named in English appear correctly, but russian names of icons
> > (which correspond to Trash, Home and others) appear as '?'. It
> > seems that Desktop in my system cannot dysplay non-English characters at
> > all. The Konqueror does the same: it shows russian names of folders (e.g.
> > in Windows directory) as '?'.  I tried to configure its fonts and
> > charsets but it had no effect. Other programs display russian folders
> > like this too. Why does it happen and how can I solve my problem? (I
> > suppose that displaying by Desktop and other programs are different
> > problems...)
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
>
> I had installed ttf-fonts right the way you described (I need them in order
> to run OpenOffice and it works fine with them). Still I deleted ttf-fonts
> and installed them again, and somehow it got worked! But after I logout and
> login again (or something like this, I didn't catch it exactly)  it came to
> the previous state!!! And however I tried to repeat the reinstallation of
> ttf-fonts, it hadn't effect. But I've seen, that I can see russian letters
> in Desktop and other programs!
> (though for a short time :-))
> Could you advice me what's the point of the problem and what can I do with
> it, please?

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Re: [expert] Localization problems

2002-10-19 Thread Denis Kukharev

18 ïËÔÑÂÒØ 2002 22:51, ÷Ù ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌÉ:
> I've got Mandrake 8.2 and need russian localization.
> When I select russian language and country "Russia" in KDE, it's OK
> (windows, menus, etc. all in Russian) except icons on the Desktop!
> Icons named in English appear correctly, but russian names of icons (which
> correspond to Trash, Home and others) appear as '?'. It seems that
> Desktop in my system cannot dysplay non-English characters at all. The
> Konqueror does the same: it shows russian names of folders (e.g. in Windows
> directory) as '?'.  I tried to configure its fonts and charsets but
> it had no effect. Other programs display russian folders like this too. Why
> does it happen and how can I solve my problem? (I suppose that displaying
> by Desktop and other programs are different problems...)
>
> Thanks in advance.

I had installed ttf-fonts right the way you described (I need them in order 
to run OpenOffice and it works fine with them). Still I deleted ttf-fonts and 
installed them again, and somehow it got worked! But after I logout and login 
again (or something like this, I didn't catch it exactly)  it came to the 
previous state!!! And however I tried to repeat the reinstallation of 
ttf-fonts, it hadn't effect. But I've seen, that I can see russian letters in 
Desktop and other programs! 
(though for a short time :-))
Could you advice me what's the point of the problem and what can I do with 
it, please?

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Re: [expert] How to get on 'network neighbourhood' in 9.0?

2002-10-19 Thread Jason Pearce

Try LinNeighborhood
works for me 
jason



On Tuesday 15 October 2002 22:14, you wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> My University loves M$, to the highest degree! A problem I face with
> using Linux is how to see and access all those computers on the 'Network
> Neighbourhood'. It always seems like such a challenge to get files, etc.
> off people - we usually resort to burning CD's. I WILL NOT swap my Linux
> box for a Windows environment now.
>
> I now think it is now time to delve into network settings and figure out
> how to set it all up (access to computers, global address books, etc).
>
> How easy is it to do? What info do I need? Can it all be done with
> Mandrake Control Centre (9.0)?
>
> Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy


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[expert] /home/%user backup in multisession CD

2002-10-19 Thread Gonzalo Avaria

Hi all, i want to make one little question. Here it
is... :)
- I would like to make backups or my user folder on
the home, that is, i want to make a multisession CD
that i could go creating folders with the contents of
my "/home/gonzalo" like every month or week. How can i
do that?. I have a ASUS 8x4x32 IDE-CD R/RW. 

Well if you need mor info i will send it to you.
thanks for your time
PS: I'm using MDK 9.0


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Alumno de Licenciatura en Fisica
Facultad de Cs. Fisicas y Matematicas
Universidad de Concepcion
CHILE

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Re: [expert] mounting nt5 ntfs partitions

2002-10-19 Thread Steffen Barszus

Am Samstag, 19. Oktober 2002 16:15 schrieb Igor Izyumin:

> It appears something is trying to execute a binary file that is not an
> executable.  The kernel tries to load a module for that.  Not sure if this
> is related to the crash.
>
> In general, Linux support for NTFS is very sketchy.  Microsoft constantly
> changes stuff to break it and they have been known to threaten developers
> who try to improve the driver.  You might want to make a fat32 partition
> for sharing files with Linux.

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Re: [expert] mounting nt5 ntfs partitions

On Saturday 19 October 2002 05:28 am, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I've tried today installing some ttf from my winXP-partition. While doing
> that I saw that the MCC does not react anymore. While discovering the
> problem I have tested accessing my three ntfs partitions. On hda1 and hda6
> there are no problems, but on accessing hda5 aka /mnt/nt2  all processes
> freezes instantly and I'm not able to kill them with kill -9 or whatever I
> tried. So I take a look in the fstab and wondering that all three
> partitions are mounted the same way. If it is of interest /mnt/nt2 is the
> XP system-partition and around 8Gig big. I've read here that Mike Morrell
> had a similar problem , so maybe its a common problem or a bug
>
> My ntfs fstab-entries
>
> /dev/hda1 /mnt/nt ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=0 0 0
> /dev/hda5 /mnt/nt2 ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=0 0 0
> /dev/hda6 /mnt/nt3 ntfs iocharset=iso8859-15,ro,umask=0 0 0
>
> Does not no if it comes from that but maybe it causes the error :
> Oct 19 12:12:01 ernie modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt-e0ff
>
> Hope you can help me
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Steffen
It appears something is trying to execute a binary file that is not an 
executable.  The kernel tries to load a module for that.  Not sure if this is 
related to the crash.

In general, Linux support for NTFS is very sketchy.  Microsoft constantly 
changes stuff to break it and they have been known to threaten developers who 
try to improve the driver.  You might want to make a fat32 partition for 
sharing files with Linux.
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[expert] firewall-script

2002-10-19 Thread hans privat

hi,
here I have the script for my "firewall-masquerade" of 

"rc.firewall-2.2.1"

and that's the points, I don't know what to fill in :
+
DNS=""  #set to your DNS server(s) that
you get zones from

INTERNAL_LAN="192.168.0.0/24 192.168.10.0/24"   #the internal
network(s), must be set
AUTH_ALLOW="207.69.200.132 216.32.132.250 206.132.27.156 209.81.232.66
207.45.69.69 216.80.83.185 212.158.123.66"   #IPs allowed to use the
AUTH service (leave blank and put 113 in TCP_ALLOW for all)
DENY_ALL="" #internet hosts to explicitly
deny from accessing your system at all
DROP="REJECT"

DNS: dont't have settep up right now --
++
INTERNAL_LAN="192.168.0.0/24 192.168.10.0/24" : here I'm having an 

internal-lan of 192.168.10.0 = is that, what I have to write in ?

AUTH_ALLOW= don't have any glue ... am sorry about !

AUTH service = what's this ?

DENY_ALL="" = what I have to write in ?

DROP="REJECT" = what's this ? and what I have to fill in here ?

##

my IP's for my two ethercards are :
192.168.10.8 = eth0 (internal LAN)

and 
10.0.0.10 for eth1 = connected to ADSL-modem from Alcatel-Speed-touch)

I don't let be active the internet-connection all the time, only, if I
need the line, I'm calling the "mandrake-control-center" and then 
"Network-Internet" and then "connect"

maybe, that can be done trough a script, but I don't have anything. 
It would be one of my next steps to learn something about with Perl.

hope anyone can help me here, which things I have to fill in and why ...
it's for my learning and better understanding.

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Re: [expert] Writing blank CDs...