[FairfieldLife] Re: Britain's happiness in decline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just saw the first of 6 BBC programmes on this series about happiness. The idea that happiness is the goal and things like money and pleasure are just a means to it was put forward by Aristotle. After a certain income - about $15,000 - any extra happiness from economic consumption is fleeting and has diminishing returns. Moreover whilst prosperity has trebled since the mid-fifties happiness has fallen from 52% then to just 36% today. Yes these are subjective measures but they do seem to correlate with more tangible effects. Smoking can cost 3 years of one's life; unhappiness 9 years. The good feel factor has attracted political interest but all governments are obsessed with GNP growth - which we know won't make much difference to happiness. However the first country to adopt National Happiness as its GNP is the Kingdom of Bhutan. Not sure how this works out in practice - so far they've decided to ban advertising boards and plastic bags! I agree that questionnaires are rather rough measures and in a cult setting especially unreliable. But perhaps in future there might be brainwaves and other physiological measures that can be used in addition. But I see this new serious interest in the happiness of the population as a positive development. I agree...a good sign. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/happiness_formula/4771908.stm Did you take the Happiness Test at that link? I scored Highly Satisfied. That and a couple of bucks will get me a cuppa java at Starbucks. :-) But this article brings up the same question for me that another recently-posted article about relative happiness as measured by *asking* people whether they were happy or not did: How meaningful is the result of such polling in a cult community? I'm not talking just about TM or real cults or even just spiritual communitites here...for the purpose of this question, you could include the employees of a company whose PR image proudly proclaims that it provides a perfect work envir- onment, or a small town that bills itself as the perfect place to live. What I'm suggesting is that these self-polling data collection methods are (or should be) suspect when they are used in a community that exerts pressure on its members to conform to a group image of some sort. For example, I would suspect that you would have a completely different set of answers to the how happy are you test in Fairfield, depend- ing on who was administering the test. If it were being given by the TMO, you'd get the expected very happy answers. But if the test had absolutely nothing to do with the TMO, and the people being asked the questions knew that the data was theoretically never going to be seen by people in the TM movement, I would expect you'd get a more balanced happy to fairly happy set of answers. This tendency to answer poll questions the way the questioners want you to answer them was a well known and oft-discussed phenomenon in the Psych and Sociology courses I took in college. We even did one experiment in which half the class was given a test to administer to subjects and told that they were trying to prove Theorem A, and the other half of the class was given the same test to administer (without knowing it was the same), and told that they were trying to prove Theorem B (the opposite). Natch, the first group got results proving Theorem A and the second group got results proving the exact opposite, using the exact same test. I never forgot that experiment, and remain skeptical of all polled research data to this day. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Scorpion-land wins!
On May 3, 2006, at 1:32 PM, anony_sleuth_ff wrote: What about Mass.'s recent plan? Mass's plan follows of the heels of Maine's plan, the first in the US, which I'm sorry to say has been an utter failure in terms of costs. Could you get reasonable healthcare and was your premium based on your abilitiy to pay? Yes it is, but the state infrastructure and the cost of this state-run system has essentially become a state subsidized system which cost millions and millions of dollars to cover a couple thousand people who weren't covered before. And then in order to achieve this they tried to undercut reimbursements to all the small hospitals, driving them to the verge of collapse. It sounds good on paper, but in reality you were paying a huge price to insure very few people. What ended up happening was people who had insurance before jumped on the state plan (which is called Dirigo after the state motto) to get the cheaper subsidized rates--and essentially the medical system and the taxpayers ended up paying for it. Huge cost, small benefit. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Jyotish
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip PS -- A long time ago I did a fairly vigorous statistical look at jyotish application for investing and found no objective basis for it, though I did find minor correlations between market phenomenon and certain planetary cycles -- ie, planets moving into and out of signs and changing dasha periods seem like hogwash to me, but the relationship of planetary orbits may in fact be linked somehow with macro cycles on earth -- which supports what judy was saying earlier on the subject I think. Actually that was what Bhairitu said, that it tracks circadian rhythms. My speculation was that any sufficiently complex system--from astrology to palm reading to tea leaves to Tarot--can serve to focus the intuition just as a sort of abstract organizing principle; the information comes from the intuition, not from anything in the system itself. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Bharatadesam.Com - for all of us
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[FairfieldLife] Re: New Jyotish
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Maharishi has always claimed that Jyotish is a science and that therefore a computer would be the best practitioner. To my eyes the biggest pointer to it being a huge load of Anthropomorphism is the fact that all of the planets beyond the orbit of saturn are missing from the jyotish calculations. Do they not have an effect? As someone touched on, M. holds that jyotish is not about effects casued from a distance (external planets) but rather are like a cosmic clock that correspond to internal clocks -- presumably governing the fructification of various vasanas. or is it because they are not visible to the naked eye and consequently the ancients couldn't have known about them? Thus the cosmic clock system is not dependent of outer planets, nor billions of other things, to tell what time it is. Charts don't say anything, they need to be interpreted, and the common experience is that 10 jyotishes will give 10 different interpretations That is a common experience today, though not to the extreme you imply. Most jyotishees will generally agree on what a particular grahaplacement means. Where greater differences appear is determining and interpreting the net result of a 100 + various influences taken together. People who believe in astrology always point to famous peoples' charts and find something in it that corresponds to the famous quality of stupidity or beauty or whatever in that person. Astrology is a sufficiently complex system that you can always find something in a chart that corresponds to some quality in a person, and if you're a TB then your psychology will conveniently ignore all the other aspects of the chart that contradict your conclusion, -- though it's a complex enough system that you can always explain it away somehow. Anyway, keep waiting for that scientific proof of jyotish - that's an even longer wait than for the pundits. That is not a characteristic unique to jyotish or jyotish believers, its a broad characteristic common to all bad science practiced by people who are clueless about statistical evidence. It is a weak and nearly menningless finding, in jyotish or any research, to say Y occurs when X happens. The SP 500 rises on days that the Sun rises meets the preceeding criteria. Its true, yet meaningless. What is of interest are statements such as Y occurs when X happens, AND Y does NOT occur when X happens. (And verified by appropriate statistical tests that the effects found would not usually occur if the cause or dose or X did not happen. Not usually means itss better than 20 to one odds). PS -- A long time ago I did a fairly vigorous statistical look at jyotish application for investing and found no objective basis I would guess you looked at a few jyotish positions, based on jyotish basics, found in any introductory jyotish book. And these few jyotish positions you looked at are were only a handful of 100's of possible combinations and effects. And the analysis did not examine at all virtually 1000's of effects(from combinations of effects brough to light by advanced methods (e.g., various dasha systems, etc). If so, your research, while probably of merit, was hardly exhaustive -- and leaves open the door 1000x + well structured research projects, some ofwhich may find some useful correlations in some areas of life. My guess is that if some statistically valid predictions are made by jyotish, it will come about from reinterpreting and calibrating what ancient texts say regarding results of a particular jyotish position, in terms of modern life. Gaining many wives, many cows, and comfortable beds may mean something quite unique in modern life, and distinct from what it referred to in life 5000 years ago -- though the results may be in similar areas of life. This will come from a lot of exploratory research. For example, if a certain position calls for increased wealth, then look at 100 different wealth modern paramters (income, total assests, purchasing power, etc) for 1000 + subjects and see if some correlate with the existance, and lack thereof, of the noted jyotish position that is said to promote wealth. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation
on 4/26/06 7:08 PM, anon_astute_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj does not only like to recycle old articles he once posted here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Guruphiliac/message/825 Is there a ban against selective cross-posting here? I mean if one shotguns everypost to 100 other sites, thats a poor practice. On the other hand, if an insight forms in a post on FFL, and the idea develops over a month or two, and one submits a revised hopefully more refined post on the same idea somewhere else, sometime later, where is the harm. It seems to be a good thing, IMO. I agree. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation
on 4/26/06 8:14 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the wealth of meditation reflected on this site, possibly what, a thousand years worth or so (30 years meditation + rounding and/or sidhis equals ~one year meditation each for ~1000 members of FFL), what is the harm in any post? I estimate that I've spent 5+ years meditating since 1968. If you count sidhis, asanas, rest periods, etc., it's probably more. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/26/06 8:14 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the wealth of meditation reflected on this site, possibly what, a thousand years worth or so (30 years meditation + rounding and/or sidhis equals ~one year meditation each for ~1000 members of FFL), what is the harm in any post? I estimate that I've spent 5+ years meditating since 1968. If you count sidhis, asanas, rest periods, etc., it's probably more. You must be one Kentucky Fried Chitta!!! Is that five full years, 24 X 7?? (just curious, I'm a bit of a numbers freak...) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
In a message dated 5/4/06 10:36:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: don't see what this Moussoui guy has done to deserve such a cruel, never-ending punishment that will likely drive him insane. He didn't do 9/11, even though he may have wanted to. I guess it's just about revenge. I'm sure that will make America happy. Moussaoui was "only" charged with conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism, commit aircraft piracy, destroy aircraft,murder government employees and destroy property. He could have been given the death penalty on four of the six charges. By the way, Moussaoui did plea guilty to those six counts. Maybe he should have been given probation for being sohonest? I think his sentence has satisfied most people regardless of whether they support the death penalty or not. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation
on 5/4/06 11:03 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/26/06 8:14 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the wealth of meditation reflected on this site, possibly what, a thousand years worth or so (30 years meditation + rounding and/or sidhis equals ~one year meditation each for ~1000 members of FFL), what is the harm in any post? I estimate that I've spent 5+ years meditating since 1968. If you count sidhis, asanas, rest periods, etc., it's probably more. You must be one Kentucky Fried Chitta!!! Is that five full years, 24 X 7?? (just curious, I'm a bit of a numbers freak...) No. 5+ years if you add up all the individual meditations. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
So he didn't actually DO anything, right? But he gets life without parole in the most cruel prison America can build. Is that justice or vengeance? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/4/06 10:36:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: don't see what this Moussoui guy has done to deserve such a cruel, never- ending punishment that will likely drive him insane. He didn't do 9/11, even though he may have wanted to. I guess it's just about revenge. I'm sure that will make America happy. Moussaoui was only charged with conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism, commit aircraft piracy, destroy aircraft,murder government employees and destroy property. He could have been given the death penalty on four of the six charges. By the way, Moussaoui did plea guilty to those six counts. Maybe he should have been given probation for being so honest? I think his sentence has satisfied most people regardless of whether they support the death penalty or not. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Health plan in Arizona
In Arizona we have a state-sponsored plan where if you're self- employed (employees: 1 to 50) you can get a health insurance plan -- HMO or PPO -- with guarantee issue, regardless of health status. There is a 12-month elimination period for pre-existing conditions but doesn't matter what they are, they kick in and are covered after the elimination period...AND if you're covered for these pre-existing conditions under an existing plan you're on and are switching over to the state plan, then you're covered. All members of your family are covered. If you're on a group plan, though, and you want to go on this plan, you have to wait 6 months (this was an amendment to the law by the private health insurance companies. When I first got health insurance back in '96 I paid $80.00 a month. Four years later it went up to $600.00 a month. I switched over to the state-sponsored plan and it costs me only $260.00 a month! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: He ain't heavy, he's my brother...
The bottom line is our modern medicine has not a clue when it comes to obesity. They continue to ignore biochemical individuality and think they can solve diet problems with shotgun methods. Even in ayurveda it is not crystal clear as obesity can be caused by any three of the doshas being out of balance. Jason Spock wrote: It's not as simple as that, Sir Archer. He might be having hormonal imbalances. Or a particular Virus that causes obesity. HGH is sometimes used by actors to have a super-fit body, but it is banned for sportsmen. This guy might also need liposuction and drugs to jack up his metabolism rate. Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 17:41:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] He ain't heavy, he's my brother... I don’t get it with these super-heavy people. They’re incapable of getting their own food. Can’t the people who “care” for them but them on a forced fast, under a doctor’s supervision? - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
In a message dated 5/4/06 11:11:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i don't see what this Moussoui guy has done to deserve such a cruel, never- ending punishment that will likely drive him insane. He didn't do 9/11, even though he may have wanted to. I guess it's just about revenge. I'm sure that will make America happy.Yep, its all about the blood lust of the mob, and how politicians manipulate that to stay in power... Well it certainly didn't take long for the whiners to come out and complain about the sentence of a convicted terrorist. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Release All Info on 9/11'
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now is the time to pressure the govt. To release all info on the 9/11 plot. Now that the trial is over. Let's see how negligent the govt. was; In preventing this crime... As it was used as a means to invade Iraq... Nimble Gimbel You can find All the secret info You need On 9/11 Up on the grassy knoll... In building 7 which was not hit by a plane and was brought down by controlled demolition. So how did they know in advance to set it up for the controlled demolition? You can't do that in a few hours in a middle of a disaster area. Their false flag operation failed so they had to go to plan B and are probably on plan F by now with so many of the plans failing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
In a message dated 5/4/06 11:28:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So he didn't actually DO anything, right? But he gets life without parole in the most cruel prison America can build. Is that justice or vengeance? Yes , he did actually Do something. It's called conspiracy. And it was conspiracy to commit absolutely heinous acts of terrorism just like Mohammed Atta et al. Maybe you should go see United 93 and have a little reminder of what Moussaoui was involved in and wanted to do and then tell me his punishment is too harsh. It is justice, he plead guilty and could have been given the death penalty on four of the sixcharges. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
In a message dated 5/4/06 11:47:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why did building 7 have to be brought down when it wasn't even hit by a plane. Could it be the CIA, FBI and case files on the Enron investigation that were stored their. Or was it a command center for remote controlled planes? It's where the man on the grassy knoll lived To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Corny, sappy movies I love
1. Pride and Prejudice: a Latter-Day comedy. This is version of Pride and Prejudice that takes place in modern-day Utah (yes, it's made by Mormons but that's hardly mentioned). It's corny and sappy but I love it! 2. A Walk to Remember, with Mandy Moore. Sweet and adorable. 3. Friends. From the early '70s. Soundtrack by Elton John. Takes place in the south of France. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Health plan in Arizona
shempmcgurk wrote: In Arizona we have a state-sponsored plan where if you're self- employed (employees: 1 to 50) you can get a health insurance plan -- HMO or PPO -- with guarantee issue, regardless of health status. There is a 12-month elimination period for pre-existing conditions but doesn't matter what they are, they kick in and are covered after the elimination period...AND if you're covered for these pre-existing conditions under an existing plan you're on and are switching over to the state plan, then you're covered. All members of your family are covered. If you're on a group plan, though, and you want to go on this plan, you have to wait 6 months (this was an amendment to the law by the private health insurance companies. When I first got health insurance back in '96 I paid $80.00 a month. Four years later it went up to $600.00 a month. I switched over to the state-sponsored plan and it costs me only $260.00 a month! What's the deductible? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So he didn't actually DO anything, right? But he gets life without parole in the most cruel prison America can build. Is that justice or vengeance? The government contended that if he had told investigators what he knew about the plans for the 9/11 attacks when he was captured and interrogated about terrorist plots, the attacks might have been prevented. But he lied and said he knew nothing about any plots, which makes him guilty of conspiracy in the attacks. I'm glad he didn't get the death penalty, but I think life without parole is fair. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/4/06 10:36:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, feste37@ writes: don't see what this Moussoui guy has done to deserve such a cruel, never- ending punishment that will likely drive him insane. He didn't do 9/11, even though he may have wanted to. I guess it's just about revenge. I'm sure that will make America happy. Moussaoui was only charged with conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism, commit aircraft piracy, destroy aircraft,murder government employees and destroy property. He could have been given the death penalty on four of the six charges. By the way, Moussaoui did plea guilty to those six counts. Maybe he should have been given probation for being so honest? I think his sentence has satisfied most people regardless of whether they support the death penalty or not. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health plan in Arizona
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: In Arizona we have a state-sponsored plan where if you're self- employed (employees: 1 to 50) you can get a health insurance plan -- HMO or PPO -- with guarantee issue, regardless of health status. There is a 12-month elimination period for pre-existing conditions but doesn't matter what they are, they kick in and are covered after the elimination period...AND if you're covered for these pre-existing conditions under an existing plan you're on and are switching over to the state plan, then you're covered. All members of your family are covered. If you're on a group plan, though, and you want to go on this plan, you have to wait 6 months (this was an amendment to the law by the private health insurance companies. When I first got health insurance back in '96 I paid $80.00 a month. Four years later it went up to $600.00 a month. I switched over to the state-sponsored plan and it costs me only $260.00 a month! What's the deductible? The deductibles range from $500 to about $2,000. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
The parallel here is surely that that fellow named Fournier (or something like that) who knew in advance, or could have known, about the Oklahoma bombing in 1995. I think he got about 14 years (that's what I remember, although I might be wrong). Life without parole is an inhuman punishment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: So he didn't actually DO anything, right? But he gets life without parole in the most cruel prison America can build. Is that justice or vengeance? The government contended that if he had told investigators what he knew about the plans for the 9/11 attacks when he was captured and interrogated about terrorist plots, the attacks might have been prevented. But he lied and said he knew nothing about any plots, which makes him guilty of conspiracy in the attacks. I'm glad he didn't get the death penalty, but I think life without parole is fair. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/4/06 10:36:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, feste37@ writes: don't see what this Moussoui guy has done to deserve such a cruel, never- ending punishment that will likely drive him insane. He didn't do 9/11, even though he may have wanted to. I guess it's just about revenge. I'm sure that will make America happy. Moussaoui was only charged with conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism, commit aircraft piracy, destroy aircraft,murder government employees and destroy property. He could have been given the death penalty on four of the six charges. By the way, Moussaoui did plea guilty to those six counts. Maybe he should have been given probation for being so honest? I think his sentence has satisfied most people regardless of whether they support the death penalty or not. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health plan in Arizona
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: In Arizona we have a state-sponsored plan where if you're self- employed (employees: 1 to 50) you can get a health insurance plan - - HMO or PPO -- with guarantee issue, regardless of health status. There is a 12-month elimination period for pre-existing conditions but doesn't matter what they are, they kick in and are covered after the elimination period...AND if you're covered for these pre-existing conditions under an existing plan you're on and are switching over to the state plan, then you're covered. All members of your family are covered. If you're on a group plan, though, and you want to go on this plan, you have to wait 6 months (this was an amendment to the law by the private health insurance companies. When I first got health insurance back in '96 I paid $80.00 a month. Four years later it went up to $600.00 a month. I switched over to the state-sponsored plan and it costs me only $260.00 a month! Yeah, I used to pay $600 a month in the US, too. Now, in France, for a policy that offers more coverage than I used to get in the US for that price, I pay 230 Euros ($290). Per year. Yeah, but you gotta live in France to get it. Your comment reminds me of what this Haitian woman used to say to me when I worked in a Bodega in New York City one summer when I was about 16. We sold produce which included avocados. I forget the exact price we used to sell them at but say they were then selling for 39 cents each. Well, this Haitian woman would come in (and she'd do this at least once a week) and she would pick up an avocado and ask us: How much are the avocados? And we'd reply: 39 cents each! And she'd get a look of disdain on her face, discard the avocado she was holding back onto the pile of them and say quite self-righteously: Well, in MY country they sell for 2 cents each! And then she's walk off in a huff. After a while, we started to say to her: Yeah, but it's going to cost you $300.00 to fly DOWN to Haiti to get it at that price! Big deal, Barry, so you get subsidized health care at $290 per year. You do realize, don't you, that it is subsidized and there is no free lunch and that someone is paying for it...like maybe taxes? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Health plan in Arizona
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: In Arizona we have a state-sponsored plan where if you're self- employed (employees: 1 to 50) you can get a health insurance plan -- HMO or PPO -- with guarantee issue, regardless of health status. There is a 12-month elimination period for pre-existing conditions but doesn't matter what they are, they kick in and are covered after the elimination period...AND if you're covered for these pre-existing conditions under an existing plan you're on and are switching over to the state plan, then you're covered. All members of your family are covered. If you're on a group plan, though, and you want to go on this plan, you have to wait 6 months (this was an amendment to the law by the private health insurance companies. When I first got health insurance back in '96 I paid $80.00 a month. Four years later it went up to $600.00 a month. I switched over to the state-sponsored plan and it costs me only $260.00 a month! What's the deductible? The deductibles range from $500 to about $2,000. And if I recall right you are in your early 50's? What would the cost be if you were 60? IOW, this compares pretty much with what I pay to a private company for insurance. But I am pretty much in favor of single payer health care in this country and now that the insurance companies are pretty much running the show and pissing off doctors even the doctors are beginning to support the idea of single payer. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So he didn't actually DO anything, right? He did do something: he lied when questioned and, in doing so, he withheld information that could have possibly have prevented 9-11. Maybe you think his sentence should have been time-served and a book deal? But he gets life without parole in the most cruel prison America can build. Is that justice or vengeance? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/4/06 10:36:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, feste37@ writes: don't see what this Moussoui guy has done to deserve such a cruel, never- ending punishment that will likely drive him insane. He didn't do 9/11, even though he may have wanted to. I guess it's just about revenge. I'm sure that will make America happy. Moussaoui was only charged with conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism, commit aircraft piracy, destroy aircraft,murder government employees and destroy property. He could have been given the death penalty on four of the six charges. By the way, Moussaoui did plea guilty to those six counts. Maybe he should have been given probation for being so honest? I think his sentence has satisfied most people regardless of whether they support the death penalty or not. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health plan in Arizona
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: In Arizona we have a state-sponsored plan where if you're self- employed (employees: 1 to 50) you can get a health insurance plan -- HMO or PPO -- with guarantee issue, regardless of health status. There is a 12-month elimination period for pre-existing conditions but doesn't matter what they are, they kick in and are covered after the elimination period...AND if you're covered for these pre- existing conditions under an existing plan you're on and are switching over to the state plan, then you're covered. All members of your family are covered. If you're on a group plan, though, and you want to go on this plan, you have to wait 6 months (this was an amendment to the law by the private health insurance companies. When I first got health insurance back in '96 I paid $80.00 a month. Four years later it went up to $600.00 a month. I switched over to the state-sponsored plan and it costs me only $260.00 a month! What's the deductible? The deductibles range from $500 to about $2,000. And if I recall right you are in your early 50's? What would the cost be if you were 60? Probably about $100 more per month. IOW, this compares pretty much with what I pay to a private company for insurance. Indeed, this program won't necessarily be the cheapest. If you're on a group program at work where everyone's healthy, you can probably get it cheaper. This program is specifically made available to those that can't get either individual or group health insurance because: 1) they can't qualify because of health reasons; 2) because of health reasons, their rating is so high that it's cost prohibitive; 3) where they work it's not available (sorry, I should have been clearer: it's also available to employees in firms of 50 employees or less). But I am pretty much in favor of single payer health care in this country and now that the insurance companies are pretty much running the show and pissing off doctors even the doctors are beginning to support the idea of single payer. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Release All Info on 9/11'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Now is the time to pressure the govt. To release all info on the 9/11 plot. Now that the trial is over. Let's see how negligent the govt. was; In preventing this crime... As it was used as a means to invade Iraq... Nimble Gimbel You can find All the secret info You need On 9/11 Up on the grassy knoll... In building 7 which was not hit by a plane and was brought down by controlled demolition. So how did they know in advance to set it up for the controlled demolition? You can't do that in a few hours in a middle of a disaster area. Their false flag operation failed so they had to go to plan B and are probably on plan F by now with so many of the plans failing. Bhairitu, are you allowed to have children? Are you allowed to pass on those genes? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/4/06 11:44 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right, that's what I meant- that if you add up all the 'meditation minutes' so to speak, that they are equivalent to someone meditating for 5 plus years, non-stop... Yup. At least an hour 2x/day since 1970. I'm a tough nut to crack. Until I went to the sidhis course in '77, I was only allowed to meditate 15-20 minutes each session. How in hell did you get instructions for a one hour meditation...or are you figuring in asanas and pranayama? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
Life without parole for withholding information is excessive. I would have given him a few years in jail and then sent him down to Texas to live with MDixon. Now THAT would be cruel and unusual punishment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: So he didn't actually DO anything, right? He did do something: he lied when questioned and, in doing so, he withheld information that could have possibly have prevented 9-11. Maybe you think his sentence should have been time-served and a book deal? But he gets life without parole in the most cruel prison America can build. Is that justice or vengeance? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/4/06 10:36:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, feste37@ writes: don't see what this Moussoui guy has done to deserve such a cruel, never- ending punishment that will likely drive him insane. He didn't do 9/11, even though he may have wanted to. I guess it's just about revenge. I'm sure that will make America happy. Moussaoui was only charged with conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism, commit aircraft piracy, destroy aircraft,murder government employees and destroy property. He could have been given the death penalty on four of the six charges. By the way, Moussaoui did plea guilty to those six counts. Maybe he should have been given probation for being so honest? I think his sentence has satisfied most people regardless of whether they support the death penalty or not. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] It's obviously Bush's fault
New Storm on Jupiter Hints at Climate Change By Sara Goudarzi Staff Writer posted: 04 May 2006 01:00 pm ET A storm is brewing half a billion miles away and in a rare event, astronomers get to watch it closely. Jupiter is growing a new red spot and the Hubble Space Telescope is photographing the scene. Backyard astronomers have been following the action, too. Red Spot Jr. as it is being called, formed after three white oval- shaped stormstwo of which were at least 90 years oldmerged between 1998 and 2000. A similar merger took place centuries ago and formed the bigger and legendary Great Red Spot, a storm twice as big as Earth and almost 300 years old. Close look Close inspections of Red Spot Jr., in Hubble images released today, reveal that similar to the Great Red Spot, the more recently developed storm rises above the top of the main cloud deck on Jupiter. Little is known about how storms form on the giant planet. They are often described as behaving similar to hurricanes on Earth. Some astronomers believe that the spots dredge up material deep below Jupiter's clouds and lift it to where the Sun's ultraviolet light chemically alters it to give it a red hue. The latest images could provide evidence that Jupiter is in the midst of a global change that can modify temperatures by as much as 10 degrees Fahrenheit on different parts of the globe. The study was led jointly by Imke de Pater and Philip Marcus of University of California, Berkeley. The storm is growing in altitude, de Pater said. Before when they were just ovals they didn't stick out above the clouds. Now they are rising. This growth signals a temperature increase in that region, she said. Marking change The global change cycle began when the last of the white oval-shaped storms formed south of the Great Red Spot in 1939. As the storms started to merge between 1998 and 2000, the mixing of heat began to slow down at that latitude and has continued slowing ever since. The movement of heat from the equator to Jupiter's south pole is expected to stop at 34 degrees southern latitude, where Red Spot Jr. is forming. This will create a big wall and stop the mixing of heat and airflow, the thinking goes. As a result, areas around the equator become warmer, while the poles can start to cool down. Cassini Snaps Best Jupiter Image Ever Big Weather at Jupiter: Cassini Snaps Earth-like Storms Vote: The Best of the Hubble Space Telescope New Picture of Creamy Saturn GALLERY: Saturn To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Tuition costs versus gasoline prices
TUITION SOARS DUE TO KNOWLEDGE SHORTFALL May 3, 2006 Every sentient, literate adult knows that the current spike in gas prices is 90 percent due to forces completely beyond the control of Congress, the White House or even Big Oil itself. The laws of supply and demand determine gas prices the same way those laws determine the price of eggs, acid-washed blue jeans and Kanye West downloads. What determines the price of college tuition? It certainly isn't the quality of the product as copiously demonstrated in David Horowitz's new book, The Professors: The 101 Most Dangerous Academics in America. The two big topics on CNN last week were (1) high gas prices and (2) the high cost of college tuition. (Also a story about an angry Hispanic lacrosse player who vanished from a cruise ship during Bush's low poll numbers.) CNN reports that college tuition has risen an astonishing 40 percent since 2000. But the proposed solutions to the exact same problem high prices for gasoline and tuition, respectively were diametrically opposed. The only solution to high gas prices considered on CNN was to pay oil company executives less, perhaps by order of the president. But somehow, no one ever suggested that the solution to the high price of college far outpacing inflation was to pay professors less. In that case, the solution is for the government to subsidize college professors' salaries even more than it already does. Based on CNN's special coverage of high gas prices, the unfolding crisis in college tuition ought to be reported like this: Coming up, soaring prices at the colleges. Who's to blame? How can you keep your child in college and cash in your wallet? And Harvard outrage, big education makes big bucks, but we pay the price. So should President Bush limit prices? ... To our top story now. It seems like a summer ritual. Rising professors' salaries mean rising tuition prices. But this year, sticker shock at the tuition window is fueling more concern than ever. And it has many people asking where is it going to end? JAMIE COURT, CONSUMER RIGHTS ADVOCATE: Every time you see the price of tuition go up, you can hear ka-ching, ka-ching in the bank accounts of the college professors. That's how oil company profits are reported. Why not subsidize the oil companies, which provide a product essential to allowing 300 million Americans to live, and put a cap on the price of college, which seems designed to turn out more liberal parasites on the productive? As economist Richard Vedder of Ohio University has demonstrated, every time the government subsidizes college tuition through tuition tax credits, college tuition rises by the precise amount of the tuition tax credit. How about investigating the shameful display of greed by college professors? Liberals think hardworking taxpayers who can't afford gas should pay more in taxes because it is vitally important that young people be taught that America is the worst country on Earth and that the American bond traders who were murdered on 9/11 deserved it. Maybe with a little less subsidized tuition, colleges couldn't afford luxuries like non-Indian of Indian studies professor Ward Churchill. He makes $120,000 a year as a department head at the University of Colorado, in addition to many speaking fees paid to him by other institutions of higher learning all heavily subsidized by taxpayers. In addition to providing a vital product, former Exxon CEO Lee Raymond has a Ph.D. in chemical engineering. Churchill doesn't have a Ph.D., not even one of those phony ones you have to buy on the Internet before you can host your own show on Air America Radio. He does not produce a product that allows New Yorkers to eat without turning 90 percent of the city into an agricultural processing plant. His list of academic achievements consists of his majoring in communications and graphic arts. That's the only part of his resume that has not already been proved false, probably because no one would make that up. Churchill's written oeuvre consists of rants about how the Americans who died in the World Trade Center on 9/11 deserved it: Well, really. Let's get a grip here, shall we? True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break. ... If there was a better, more effective, or in fact any other way of visiting some penalty befitting their participation upon the little Eichmanns inhabiting the sterile sanctuary of the twin towers, I'd really be interested in hearing about it. And thus, Churchill joined the ranks of Shakespeare, Tolstoy, Faulkner and other great writers who use the phrase, Gimme a break. Perhaps he expresses himself better in graphic arts. American taxpayers subsidize the most cretinous, idiotic, hate- filled lunatics in the universe and liberals are demanding that we direct our hate toward people like Lee Raymond who allow us to go to the bathroom
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Release All Info on 9/11'
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Now is the time to pressure the govt. To release all info on the 9/11 plot. Now that the trial is over. Let's see how negligent the govt. was; In preventing this crime... As it was used as a means to invade Iraq... Nimble Gimbel You can find All the secret info You need On 9/11 Up on the grassy knoll... In building 7 which was not hit by a plane and was brought down by controlled demolition. So how did they know in advance to set it up for the controlled demolition? You can't do that in a few hours in a middle of a disaster area. Their false flag operation failed so they had to go to plan B and are probably on plan F by now with so many of the plans failing. Bhairitu, are you allowed to have children? Are you allowed to pass on those genes? Are you? And what does that have to do with anything? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tuition costs versus gasoline prices
It's a sad day when Ann Coulter invades the peaceful sanctuary of FFL. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TUITION SOARS DUE TO KNOWLEDGE SHORTFALL May 3, 2006 Every sentient, literate adult knows that the current spike in gas prices is 90 percent due to forces completely beyond the control of Congress, the White House or even Big Oil itself. The laws of supply and demand determine gas prices the same way those laws determine the price of eggs, acid-washed blue jeans and Kanye West downloads. What determines the price of college tuition? It certainly isn't the quality of the product as copiously demonstrated in David Horowitz's new book, The Professors: The 101 Most Dangerous Academics in America. The two big topics on CNN last week were (1) high gas prices and (2) the high cost of college tuition. (Also a story about an angry Hispanic lacrosse player who vanished from a cruise ship during Bush's low poll numbers.) CNN reports that college tuition has risen an astonishing 40 percent since 2000. But the proposed solutions to the exact same problem high prices for gasoline and tuition, respectively were diametrically opposed. The only solution to high gas prices considered on CNN was to pay oil company executives less, perhaps by order of the president. But somehow, no one ever suggested that the solution to the high price of college far outpacing inflation was to pay professors less. In that case, the solution is for the government to subsidize college professors' salaries even more than it already does. Based on CNN's special coverage of high gas prices, the unfolding crisis in college tuition ought to be reported like this: Coming up, soaring prices at the colleges. Who's to blame? How can you keep your child in college and cash in your wallet? And Harvard outrage, big education makes big bucks, but we pay the price. So should President Bush limit prices? ... To our top story now. It seems like a summer ritual. Rising professors' salaries mean rising tuition prices. But this year, sticker shock at the tuition window is fueling more concern than ever. And it has many people asking where is it going to end? JAMIE COURT, CONSUMER RIGHTS ADVOCATE: Every time you see the price of tuition go up, you can hear ka-ching, ka-ching in the bank accounts of the college professors. That's how oil company profits are reported. Why not subsidize the oil companies, which provide a product essential to allowing 300 million Americans to live, and put a cap on the price of college, which seems designed to turn out more liberal parasites on the productive? As economist Richard Vedder of Ohio University has demonstrated, every time the government subsidizes college tuition through tuition tax credits, college tuition rises by the precise amount of the tuition tax credit. How about investigating the shameful display of greed by college professors? Liberals think hardworking taxpayers who can't afford gas should pay more in taxes because it is vitally important that young people be taught that America is the worst country on Earth and that the American bond traders who were murdered on 9/11 deserved it. Maybe with a little less subsidized tuition, colleges couldn't afford luxuries like non-Indian of Indian studies professor Ward Churchill. He makes $120,000 a year as a department head at the University of Colorado, in addition to many speaking fees paid to him by other institutions of higher learning all heavily subsidized by taxpayers. In addition to providing a vital product, former Exxon CEO Lee Raymond has a Ph.D. in chemical engineering. Churchill doesn't have a Ph.D., not even one of those phony ones you have to buy on the Internet before you can host your own show on Air America Radio. He does not produce a product that allows New Yorkers to eat without turning 90 percent of the city into an agricultural processing plant. His list of academic achievements consists of his majoring in communications and graphic arts. That's the only part of his resume that has not already been proved false, probably because no one would make that up. Churchill's written oeuvre consists of rants about how the Americans who died in the World Trade Center on 9/11 deserved it: Well, really. Let's get a grip here, shall we? True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break. ... If there was a better, more effective, or in fact any other way of visiting some penalty befitting their participation upon the little Eichmanns inhabiting the sterile sanctuary of the twin towers, I'd really be interested in hearing about it. And thus, Churchill joined the ranks of Shakespeare, Tolstoy, Faulkner and other great writers who use the phrase, Gimme a break. Perhaps he expresses
[FairfieldLife] I don't get this anti-immigrant stuff...
Maybe it's because I've been an illegal immigrant at three separate times in my life in the US (I've got a green card now), but what are people so upset about with illegals? I can tell you why I worked illegally here...and it wasn't because I wanted to commit crime or take advantage of anything...I wanted to work hard and make more money than I could back home. I assume that's why every illegal does it, no? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Spiritual renaissance 2,500 yrs ago
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/living/religion/14434681.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp Q and A with Karen Armstrong, as she revives her faith By JOHN BLAKE Cox News Service ATLANTA -- After writing about history's greatest spiritual leaders for the past 20 years, Karen Armstrong experienced a revelation that would shock many religious people. Few of the founders of the world's great religions were interested in creating new religions. Not Muhammad, not Jesus, not Buddha - not even some of Judaism's greatest leaders, she says. Each taught that practicing compassion was supreme. Believing in certain doctrines was ultimately unimportant. What mattered was not what you believed, but how you behaved, Armstrong says. Religion was about doing things that changed you at a profound level. That simple message was so radical that later generations diluted it, but the popular British author is trying to revive it in her latest book, The Great Transformation (Knopf, $30). The book's title is her description of a spiritual renaissance that took place from 900 to 200 B.C. during what she calls the Axial Age. Armstrong says some of humanity's most transcendent spiritual figures - Buddha, Confucius and the Hebrew prophets - suddenly sprouted across the globe during that time. They all preached a similar message. Forget about trying to find God through rituals and doctrine. Turn inward and practice compassion instead. Their message subsequently shaped figures such as Jesus and Muhammad. Armstrong argues that people must absorb the lessons of the Axial Age or humanity won't survive. Some of those lessons are personal to her. An ex-nun who lives in London, she left the Catholic convent she entered as a teenager after seven years and took on an academic career that included having her dissertation rejected and being fired as a teacher. Today her best-selling books have been translated into 40 languages, and Armstrong is considered by many to be the world's premier writer about religion. Armstrong talked by phone from New York during her current book tour. Q: What's so fascinating about the Axial Age? A: We got the idea these days that to be religious, you have to hang onto tradition. The Axial Age was a time of great innovation. It was a complete revolution in thinking that proved to be the axis of the spiritual history of humanity, the hub of the wheel, the pivot upon which everything has since continued. The people such as the Buddha, Socrates, Confucius, all inherited very ancient religious traditions and they all in their different ways turned them around so that religion was about being creative, not conservative. What about the importance of holding onto religious tradition and orthodoxy? The Axial Age sages were not interested in orthodoxy. Orthodoxy means correct teaching. They weren't interested in theology much at all. For them, religion was not about belief or holding onto correct beliefs but about behaving in a way that changed you at a profound level. How does one behave in such a way? The essence of Axial Age religion is the disciplined practice of compassion. Compassion could not be confined to your own particular group. It had to be what one of the Chinese sages called concern for everybody. That meant that you just couldn't love people in your own group or your own church. You had to extend your compassion to every creature. You also say in your book that Jesus didn't teach doctrine. Explain that, please. Does he mention the Trinity, the Incarnation or original sin? What you see Jesus doing is going around being good, asking questions. They'll ask him what is the greatest commandment and he says, Love the Lord your God with all your heart. But he's not telling them what the Lord your God is, whether he is the Trinity or not. There's very little of that. Are dogma and intolerance the inevitable result of religion? In Buddhism, it's not a particularly important part. Dogma is neither here nor there. And similarly in Judaism. I remember years ago, when I was just starting out on all of this, I was talking with a Jewish scholar who told me a story about Rabbi Hillel. A pagan came up to Rabbi Hillel, a contemporary of Jesus, and said he would convert to Judaism if the rabbi could explain the whole of Jewish teaching while he stood on one leg. Hillel stood on one leg and said, That what is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. The rest is commentary. Go and study it. And I asked, but what is a person supposed to believe? And the scholar said to me that it's easy to see that I was brought up Christian. What was it about the Axial Age that produced so many great sages? In all four regions of the world where this great transformation occurred, there was an unprecedented spate of violence. Iron weaponry had been discovered. War suddenly became much more deadly and terrible. States became larger, and they depended on an army to keep people in order.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
In a message dated 5/4/06 2:49:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We *should* be giving them the best psychiatrictreatment, and if they can show that they've beenhealed, and can express genuine remorse, we mightconsider freeing them. But at this point the onlyoption is to keep them locked up, not for punishment but for society's protection. I would rather Not take their word for it that he has been *genuinely* healed and genuine remorse can be too easily faked. We see criminals let out all the time that go right back and repeat the same crime. This guy is too dangerous to society to take such a chance. He needs to rot in his own personal hell on earth and be an example to every other terrorist what could be their fate. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] 'Prayer of Light- TONIGHT AT 11.11 PM EST, 4th May 2006'
'From 'Nesara': group in Canada':We come with this request so that many will unite under one powerful thrust of thought and intent for the culmination of events. This prayer shall be a predecessor to the incoming flux of energies required to topple this regime. It is clear to us that a unified action such as this with all the power of the workers of Light will be a forceful aid in manifesting change. We request that all be in a state of absolute peace, unobstructed by outside influence at that time. We are calling upon you to visualize the joining of Lightworkers hands around the globe. As you hold hands with your brothers and sisters of Light imagine the emanation from the Christ seed in your heart centers growing exponentially toward the center of the Earth. Do not let go of each other even when the power of Light becomes intense. You will notice the Light in Inner Earth that you beam forward from your heart centers will cause an eruption in the belly of our mother. See this through to finality and dont be weary of looking into this intense light. This could be the brightest light that you have ever seen but it will not harm you, on the contrary it is very healing. The intent and focus of this band of light will cause our Earth to implode in particles of refined slivers of crystal white Light that will cover her body like a meteor shower. Still, dont let go. After this meteor shower of light notice the heart of earth set ablaze in the violet flame of transmutation growing to cover her massive body. Once you can see the Earth set fire with this magnificent flame, you have succeeded, however dont let go yet. At this point, we will join all of you to intensify the effects. See all of the ascended Masters and Celestials join hands now, in all their glory, surrounding you and Gaia with a band of gold flickering light. As we join in and reinforce the enlightenment of your planet you will notice the violet flame will grow to cover the entire cosmos in an attempt to purify and cleanse all that needs healing. When this occurs you may let go of one another leaving the Earth ablaze, and ground yourselves with intent. We are ever grateful for your continued involvement in this great awakening and we deem that the time is very close indeed. The power of your thoughts is something that you will soon grasp the enormity of, perhaps when you see the results of this collective focus. Thank you for hearing our request, we look forward to joining you this evening in this grand experiment of light. In the meantime, prepare yourselves for wondrous events. I AM Sananda Immanuel, Avatar of the Christ light. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation
on 5/4/06 1:41 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/4/06 11:44 AM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right, that's what I meant- that if you add up all the 'meditation minutes' so to speak, that they are equivalent to someone meditating for 5 plus years, non-stop... Yup. At least an hour 2x/day since 1970. I'm a tough nut to crack. Until I went to the sidhis course in '77, I was only allowed to meditate 15-20 minutes each session. How in hell did you get instructions for a one hour meditation When I was initiated in July 1968, 1/2 hour was the prescribed time. Then on my TTC in the Fall of 1970, Maharishi said we could do an hour. Thereafter, I never did less than that. ...or are you figuring in asanas and pranayama? No, that's extra. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: The parallel here is surely that that fellow named Fournier (or something like that) who knew in advance, or could have known, about the Oklahoma bombing in 1995. I think he got about 14 years (that's what I remember, although I might be wrong). Michael Fortier helped plan the bombing, but unlike Moussaoui, he wasn't interrogated *prior to* the bombing. Legally, that means his crime is less serious than Moussaoui's, who lied to the authorities when questioned before the attacks. Also, Fortier cooperated fully with the authorities after the bombing, testifying at McVeigh's and Nichols's trials, and expressed remorse for his part in it. Otherwise he would have received a much longer prison sentence. Life without parole is an inhuman punishment. Until we discover ways to successfully rehabilitate nutcases like Moussaoui who want to murder innocent people en masse, they need to be kept away from society. We *should* be giving them the best psychiatric treatment, and if they can show that they've been healed, and can express genuine remorse, we might consider freeing them. But at this point the only option is to keep them locked up, not for punishment but for society's protection. Good analysis of the legal reason, (I didn't know it). I'm still unsure which of the 2 punishments is most appropriate for him, though. Have to trust the jury, I guess. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health plan in Arizona
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: In Arizona we have a state-sponsored plan where if you're self- employed (employees: 1 to 50) you can get a health insurance HMO or PPO -- with guarantee issue, regardless of health There is a 12-month elimination period for pre-existing conditions but doesn't matter what they are, they kick in and are covered after the elimination period...AND if you're covered for these pre-existing conditions under an existing plan you're on and are switching over to the state plan, then you're covered. All members of your family are covered. If you're on a group plan, though, and you want to go on this plan, you have to wait 6 months (this was an amendment to the law by the private health insurance companies. When I first got health insurance back in '96 I paid $80.00 a month. Four years later it went up to $600.00 a month. I switched over to the state-sponsored plan and it costs me only $260.00 a month! Yeah, I used to pay $600 a month in the US, too. Now, in France, for a policy that offers more coverage than I used to get in the US for that price, I pay 230 Euros ($290). Per year. Yeah, but you gotta live in France to get it. I *get* to live in France. You Americans really need to get out more. :-) Your comment reminds me of what this Haitian woman used to say to me when I worked in a Bodega in New York City one summer when I was about 16. We sold produce which included avocados. I forget the exact price we used to sell them at but say they were then selling for 39 cents each. Well, this Haitian woman would come in (and she'd do this at least once a week) and she would pick up an avocado and ask us: How much are the avocados? And we'd reply: 39 cents each! And she'd get a look of disdain on her face, discard the avocado she was holding back onto the pile of them and say quite self- righteously: Well, in MY country they sell for 2 cents each! And then she's walk off in a huff. After a while, we started to say to her: Yeah, but it's going to cost you $300.00 to fly DOWN to Haiti to get it at that price! Big deal, Barry, so you get subsidized health care at $290 per year. You do realize, don't you, that it is subsidized and there is no free lunch and that someone is paying for it...like maybe taxes? The French health care system is not subsidized. It is *managed*, in the sense that the government doesn't let drug companies or health care providers charge more for their services than is generally considered fair, *both* by the providers themselves and the citizens. I am not on the French system, and so the health care policy I partake of is purchased from an insurance company that *sells* it, fully expecting to make a *profit* by selling total health care for 230 Euros a year. And they do. That's just what quality health care *costs* in a country that isn't run by people who try to make unconscionable profits from their fellow citizens' misery and ill health. The US system of health care is a joke, arguably one of the *worst* on the planet in terms of making sure that its citizens have equal access to basic health care. The French system, and several others in Europe, are rated by worldwide agencies as among the best at providing the same thing. I used to live in New Mexico, where over 50% of the state's population had *no* health care of any kind, because they couldn't afford any. I'm sorry, but in my book that is the sign of a country and a people who have lost their humanity. Admittedly, the French system wasn't an overnight thing. The US has had decades to fuck things up, and with all the vested interests trying to make a buck off the misery of their fellow man, I really don't know if they'll *ever* be able to unfuck it. But fortunately I don't have to live with that. You do. You can make excuses for it all day, every day, if that makes you feel better about America. But I don't have to; I don't live there. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/4/06 2:49:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We *should* be giving them the best psychiatric treatment, and if they can show that they've been healed, and can express genuine remorse, we might consider freeing them. But at this point the only option is to keep them locked up, not for punishment but for society's protection. I would rather Not take their word for it that he has been *genuinely* healed and genuine remorse can be too easily faked. No, I'd want corroboration from psychiatric experts, a great deal of it with someone as potentially dangerous as Moussaoui. We see criminals let out all the time that go right back and repeat the same crime. Rarely have they had extensive psychiatric treatment, though, which is an indispensable part of what I suggested. This guy is too dangerous to society to take such a chance. There are folks at least as dangerous walking around free as a bird. We won't know how dangerous they are until they actually *do* something. He needs to rot in his own personal hell on earth and be an example to every other terrorist what could be their fate. Oh, nonsense. Long prison terms don't deter determined terrorists. What you want is *vengeance*. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
In a message dated 5/4/06 3:49:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This guy is too dangerous to society to take such a chance.There are folks at least as dangerous walking aroundfree as a bird. We won't know how dangerous theyare until they actually *do* something.He needs to rot in his own personal hell on earth and be an example to every other terrorist what could be their fate.Oh, nonsense. Long prison terms don't deter determinedterrorists. What you want is *vengeance*. The difference is, this guy has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt how dangerous he is and no amount of psychiatric treatment or no number of psychiatrists vouching for him can guarantee he wont do it again. He had a chance to live in society and he blew it, big time. Nobody owes him anything, and needs to go to his grave understanding that. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/4/06 1:41 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 5/4/06 11:44 AM, jim_flanegin at jflanegi@ wrote: right, that's what I meant- that if you add up all the 'meditation minutes' so to speak, that they are equivalent to someone meditating for 5 plus years, non-stop... Yup. At least an hour 2x/day since 1970. I'm a tough nut to crack. Until I went to the sidhis course in '77, I was only allowed to meditate 15-20 minutes each session. How in hell did you get instructions for a one hour meditation When I was initiated in July 1968, 1/2 hour was the prescribed time. Then on my TTC in the Fall of 1970, Maharishi said we could do an hour. Thereafter, I never did less than that. ...or are you figuring in asanas and pranayama? No, that's extra. Well, did it work? I mean, have you been happy all these years doing 40 minutes per meditation more than others? Or do you feel it was unnecessary? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: The guy's just a nutcase, an Al-Quaeda wannabe. Yeah right, he and Richard Reid were going to fly the 5th plane. We don't have public mental institutions anymore so they put them in prisons, I guess. Moussoui is just a distraction, a patsy Your use of the word patsy gives you away, you Oliver-Stone- watching-conspiracy-theorist! He's a loose cannon and it's said Al-Qaeda wanted to have nothing to do with him. So was Oswald for that matter. Even an armchair profiler can see that. Sometimes these are not even conspiracies but strategies instead. What if I'm right too? What if my mother had wheels...would she be a car? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tuition costs versus gasoline prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a sad day when Ann Coulter invades the peaceful sanctuary of FFL. She adds a sparkle of common sense, rationality and humour to this forum. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: TUITION SOARS DUE TO KNOWLEDGE SHORTFALL May 3, 2006 Every sentient, literate adult knows that the current spike in gas prices is 90 percent due to forces completely beyond the control of Congress, the White House or even Big Oil itself. The laws of supply and demand determine gas prices the same way those laws determine the price of eggs, acid-washed blue jeans and Kanye West downloads. What determines the price of college tuition? It certainly isn't the quality of the product as copiously demonstrated in David Horowitz's new book, The Professors: The 101 Most Dangerous Academics in America. The two big topics on CNN last week were (1) high gas prices and (2) the high cost of college tuition. (Also a story about an angry Hispanic lacrosse player who vanished from a cruise ship during Bush's low poll numbers.) CNN reports that college tuition has risen an astonishing 40 percent since 2000. But the proposed solutions to the exact same problem high prices for gasoline and tuition, respectively were diametrically opposed. The only solution to high gas prices considered on CNN was to pay oil company executives less, perhaps by order of the president. But somehow, no one ever suggested that the solution to the high price of college far outpacing inflation was to pay professors less. In that case, the solution is for the government to subsidize college professors' salaries even more than it already does. Based on CNN's special coverage of high gas prices, the unfolding crisis in college tuition ought to be reported like this: Coming up, soaring prices at the colleges. Who's to blame? How can you keep your child in college and cash in your wallet? And Harvard outrage, big education makes big bucks, but we pay the price. So should President Bush limit prices? ... To our top story now. It seems like a summer ritual. Rising professors' salaries mean rising tuition prices. But this year, sticker shock at the tuition window is fueling more concern than ever. And it has many people asking where is it going to end? JAMIE COURT, CONSUMER RIGHTS ADVOCATE: Every time you see the price of tuition go up, you can hear ka-ching, ka-ching in the bank accounts of the college professors. That's how oil company profits are reported. Why not subsidize the oil companies, which provide a product essential to allowing 300 million Americans to live, and put a cap on the price of college, which seems designed to turn out more liberal parasites on the productive? As economist Richard Vedder of Ohio University has demonstrated, every time the government subsidizes college tuition through tuition tax credits, college tuition rises by the precise amount of the tuition tax credit. How about investigating the shameful display of greed by college professors? Liberals think hardworking taxpayers who can't afford gas should pay more in taxes because it is vitally important that young people be taught that America is the worst country on Earth and that the American bond traders who were murdered on 9/11 deserved it. Maybe with a little less subsidized tuition, colleges couldn't afford luxuries like non-Indian of Indian studies professor Ward Churchill. He makes $120,000 a year as a department head at the University of Colorado, in addition to many speaking fees paid to him by other institutions of higher learning all heavily subsidized by taxpayers. In addition to providing a vital product, former Exxon CEO Lee Raymond has a Ph.D. in chemical engineering. Churchill doesn't have a Ph.D., not even one of those phony ones you have to buy on the Internet before you can host your own show on Air America Radio. He does not produce a product that allows New Yorkers to eat without turning 90 percent of the city into an agricultural processing plant. His list of academic achievements consists of his majoring in communications and graphic arts. That's the only part of his resume that has not already been proved false, probably because no one would make that up. Churchill's written oeuvre consists of rants about how the Americans who died in the World Trade Center on 9/11 deserved it: Well, really. Let's get a grip here, shall we? True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break. ... If there was a better, more effective, or in fact any other way of visiting some penalty befitting their participation upon the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/4/06 3:49:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jstein@ writes: This guy is too dangerous to society to take such a chance. There are folks at least as dangerous walking around free as a bird. We won't know how dangerous they are until they actually *do* something. He needs to rot in his own personal hell on earth and be an example to every other terrorist what could be their fate. Oh, nonsense. Long prison terms don't deter determined terrorists. What you want is *vengeance*. The difference is, this guy has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt how dangerous he is and no amount of psychiatric treatment or no number of psychiatrists vouching for him can guarantee he wont do it again. He had a chance to live in society and he blew it, big time. Nobody owes him anything, and needs to go to his grave understanding that. I'm *in favor* of life without parole for him, given the inadequacy of our psychiatric treatment at rehabilitating folks of his type. But you're kidding yourself if you think he's ever going to understand what you want him to understand. More than likely, being in prison will make him even angrier and more convinced than ever that he's the righteous one. You want him to *suffer*, as your earlier response made clear. But that's just a need for vengeance on your part. You really ought to look at your need to feel avenged. It's not going to bring anybody back, and it's certainly not going to do *you* any good. Some people feel good from it...why deny them? I'm not saying that's the most enlightened approach but, hey, better that the mob gets its jollies than being frustrated at NOT seeing horrible people get what they deserve. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Release All Info on 9/11'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Now is the time to pressure the govt. To release all info on the 9/11 plot. Now that the trial is over. Let's see how negligent the govt. was; In preventing this crime... As it was used as a means to invade Iraq... Nimble Gimbel You can find All the secret info You need On 9/11 Up on the grassy knoll... In building 7 which was not hit by a plane and was brought down by controlled demolition. So how did they know in advance to set it up for the controlled demolition? You can't do that in a few hours in a middle of a disaster area. Their false flag operation failed so they had to go to plan B and are probably on plan F by now with so many of the plans failing. Bhairitu, are you allowed to have children? Are you allowed to pass on those genes? Are you? And what does that have to do with anything? I would ask you the same thing about some of the claims you make above. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Urgent! Help stop pro-factory-farm bill
Title: Urgent! Help stop pro-factory-farm bill From: JFAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 17:05:38 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Urgent! Help stop pro-factory-farm bill Dear JFAN supporter, We urge you to consider contacting Gov. Vilsack's office IMMEDIATELY and asking him to veto this new bill! Yesterday the Iowa Legislature passed SF 2377, a bill that will greatly reduce and limit the authority of the Department of Natural Resources to regulate factory farms. For example, this new legislation will: Prohibit the DNR from creating new rules, currently under consideration, that would limit the construction of factory farms in certain environmentally sensitive areas, and Prohibit the DNR from undertaking the inspection of ANY proposed new factory farm sites, forcing it to rely solely on the information in applications submitted by the operator! According to the Governor's own policy analyst, this legislation would gut the new proposed DNR water rulings. This legislation would appear to be the single most significant negative piece of regulation surrounding factory farms to come out of the legislature this year. Please ask Gov. Vilsack to veto it. Call 515-281-5211 and also email him at www.governor.state.ia.us/comments/capitol_correspond/index.html http://www.governor.state.ia.us/comments/capitol_correspond/index.html . For more information on the scope of this bill and how it will affect us all, see the CCI statement below. Thanks so much for caring! JFAN Board Jefferson County Farmers and Neighbors, Inc. www.jfaniowa.org http://www.jfaniowa.org , 641-209-6600 __ Help Stop Pro-Factory Farm bill Dear CCI member, The House and Senate yesterday (May 3), on the final day of the legislative session, passed Senate File 2377. This bill would virtually gut the DNRs authority related to factory farm permitting. Iowa CCI members believe it is pandering to corporate agricultural special-interests. This bill would hand the permitting process over to the factory farms. The DNR is also opposed to the bill. Below are more details about the bill. There was a story in the Des Moines Register today about the vote. You can read it by clicking here. http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060504/NEWS10/605040387/1011 Also, CCI member Vern Tigges said in an Associated Press story that ran around the state the bill is completely contrary to the $18 million the Legislature has agreed to spend on cleaning Iowa's waterways, which have been ranked as some of the nation's most polluted. With this bill, the Legislature is saying let's let corporate ag pollute our water and then just spend our tax dollars trying to clean it up, Tigges said. That's not governing, that's pandering. The bill now moves to the Governors desk for either his signature or veto. TAKE ACTION Ask the Governor to veto --and send a strong message that this bill is terrible by asking him to veto it NOW! Email Governor Vilsack at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or call him at 515-281-5211. About SF 2377 Eliminates virtually all of the DNRs authority to deny or modify a factory farm construction permit or manure management plan; Makes it illegal for DNR to inspect a construction site for potential problems; And forces the DNR to take factory farms at their word when they submit construction permit applications. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
You've no idea what Massaoui will be like in 10, 20, 30 or 40 years. To condemn someone of 37 to a life in a dungeon with almost no human contact is out of all proportion to the offense. People can change. You seem to be saying two things here. First, lock them up forever; second, if they show genuine remorse, consider freeing them. Massaoui has no such option. He could become as saintly as Mother Teresa but it wouldn't do him any good in that hell-hole. This guy needs help, which of course is anathema to those on this board who relish the idea of vengeance. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Life without parole is an inhuman punishment. Until we discover ways to successfully rehabilitate nutcases like Moussaoui who want to murder innocent people en masse, they need to be kept away from society. We *should* be giving them the best psychiatric treatment, and if they can show that they've been healed, and can express genuine remorse, we might consider freeing them. But at this point the only option is to keep them locked up, not for punishment but for society's protection. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've no idea what Massaoui will be like in 10, 20, 30 or 40 years. Yes, I do. Unlike the victims of 9/11, he'll still be alive. To condemn someone of 37 to a life in a dungeon with almost no human contact is out of all proportion to the offense. ...sounds like Purusha... People can change. You seem to be saying two things here. First, lock them up forever; second, if they show genuine remorse, consider freeing them. Massaoui has no such option. He could become as saintly as Mother Teresa but it wouldn't do him any good in that hell-hole. This guy needs help, which of course is anathema to those on this board who relish the idea of vengeance. Better that the mob gets vengeance through the justice system than be frustrated and take it out thruogh some other venue... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Life without parole is an inhuman punishment. Until we discover ways to successfully rehabilitate nutcases like Moussaoui who want to murder innocent people en masse, they need to be kept away from society. We *should* be giving them the best psychiatric treatment, and if they can show that they've been healed, and can express genuine remorse, we might consider freeing them. But at this point the only option is to keep them locked up, not for punishment but for society's protection. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tuition costs versus gasoline prices
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a sad day when Ann Coulter invades the peaceful sanctuary of FFL. She adds a sparkle of common sense, rationality and humour to this forum. Ann Coulter and rationality would be a contradictions of terms. Or a blond oxymoron. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
In a message dated 5/4/06 4:33:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm *in favor* of life without parole for him, giventhe inadequacy of our psychiatric treatment atrehabilitating folks of his type. But you're kiddingyourself if you think he's ever going to understandwhat you want him to understand. More than likely,being in prison will make him even angrier and moreconvinced than ever that he's the righteous one.You want him to *suffer*, as your earlier responsemade clear. But that's just a need for vengeanceon your part. You really ought to look at yourneed to feel avenged. It's not going to bringanybody back, and it's certainly not going to do*you* any good. Judy you are mistaking if you think I care whether he ever realizes what he did. I don't. I just want him locked away for ever and the last thing I want him to have is a "nice day". He doesn't deserve it. The last thing I want is any future terrorist thinking if he gets caught by the United States he'll have an easy life in a cushy American jail complete with all amenities. Call me hateful, vindictive whatever,I'll reserve my compassion for others a bit more deserving or at least less hostile. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/4/06 4:38 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything wrong with vengeance? Romans 12:19-21 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, ³Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.² 20 To the contrary, ³if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.² 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. Whoever wrote that is a better man than I. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/4/06 2:49:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jstein@ writes: We *should* be giving them the best psychiatric treatment, and if they can show that they've been healed, and can express genuine remorse, we might consider freeing them. But at this point the only option is to keep them locked up, not for punishment but for society's protection. I would rather Not take their word for it that he has been *genuinely* healed and genuine remorse can be too easily faked. No, I'd want corroboration from psychiatric experts, a great deal of it with someone as potentially dangerous as Moussaoui. We see criminals let out all the time that go right back and repeat the same crime. Rarely have they had extensive psychiatric treatment, though, which is an indispensable part of what I suggested. This guy is too dangerous to society to take such a chance. There are folks at least as dangerous walking around free as a bird. We won't know how dangerous they are until they actually *do* something. He needs to rot in his own personal hell on earth and be an example to every other terrorist what could be their fate. Oh, nonsense. Long prison terms don't deter determined terrorists. What you want is *vengeance*. Is there anything wrong with vengeance? Moussaoui doesn't think so. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 5/4/06 3:49:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jstein@ writes: This guy is too dangerous to society to take such a chance. There are folks at least as dangerous walking around free as a bird. We won't know how dangerous they are until they actually *do* something. He needs to rot in his own personal hell on earth and be an example to every other terrorist what could be their fate. Oh, nonsense. Long prison terms don't deter determined terrorists. What you want is *vengeance*. The difference is, this guy has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt how dangerous he is and no amount of psychiatric treatment or no number of psychiatrists vouching for him can guarantee he wont do it again. He had a chance to live in society and he blew it, big time. Nobody owes him anything, and needs to go to his grave understanding that. I'm *in favor* of life without parole for him, given the inadequacy of our psychiatric treatment at rehabilitating folks of his type. But you're kidding yourself if you think he's ever going to understand what you want him to understand. More than likely, being in prison will make him even angrier and more convinced than ever that he's the righteous one. You want him to *suffer*, as your earlier response made clear. But that's just a need for vengeance on your part. You really ought to look at your need to feel avenged. It's not going to bring anybody back, and it's certainly not going to do *you* any good. Some people feel good from it...why deny them? Why deny them the right to lynch him? I'm sure some people would really enjoy tearing him into little tiny pieces. What you don't seem to realize is that's what motivates the *terrorists*. Moussaoui has said he wanted to kill Americans because America had killed Muslims. Revenge only motivates more revenge. It's a vicious circle. I'm not saying that's the most enlightened approach but, hey, better that the mob gets its jollies than being frustrated at NOT seeing horrible people get what they deserve. No, better they learn not to feel frustrated. Better they learn to feel compassion for people who are driven by such emotions to kill other people. Feel compassion for them, and lock them up so they can't fulfill their compulsions. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tuition costs versus gasoline prices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: It's a sad day when Ann Coulter invades the peaceful sanctuary of FFL. She adds a sparkle of common sense, rationality and humour to this forum. Ann Coulter and rationality would be a contradictions of terms. Or a blond oxymoron. You can drop the oxy part. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/4/06 4:33:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm *in favor* of life without parole for him, given the inadequacy of our psychiatric treatment at rehabilitating folks of his type. But you're kidding yourself if you think he's ever going to understand what you want him to understand. More than likely, being in prison will make him even angrier and more convinced than ever that he's the righteous one. You want him to *suffer*, as your earlier response made clear. But that's just a need for vengeance on your part. You really ought to look at your need to feel avenged. It's not going to bring anybody back, and it's certainly not going to do *you* any good. Judy you are mistaking if you think I care whether he ever realizes what he did. I don't. I just want him locked away for ever and the last thing I want him to have is a nice day. He doesn't deserve it. As I said, you want him to *suffer*. The last thing I want is any future terrorist thinking if he gets caught by the United States he'll have an easy life in a cushy American jail complete with all amenities. It wouldn't make any difference, as I said. Knowing they'll do hard time if they're caught isn't going to deter them in the slightest. Call me hateful, vindictive whatever, I'll reserve my compassion for others a bit more deserving or at least less hostile. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
Please try reading what I wrote, feste. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've no idea what Massaoui will be like in 10, 20, 30 or 40 years. To condemn someone of 37 to a life in a dungeon with almost no human contact is out of all proportion to the offense. People can change. You seem to be saying two things here. First, lock them up forever; second, if they show genuine remorse, consider freeing them. Massaoui has no such option. He could become as saintly as Mother Teresa but it wouldn't do him any good in that hell-hole. This guy needs help, which of course is anathema to those on this board who relish the idea of vengeance. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Life without parole is an inhuman punishment. Until we discover ways to successfully rehabilitate nutcases like Moussaoui who want to murder innocent people en masse, they need to be kept away from society. We *should* be giving them the best psychiatric treatment, and if they can show that they've been healed, and can express genuine remorse, we might consider freeing them. But at this point the only option is to keep them locked up, not for punishment but for society's protection. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
In a message dated 5/4/06 5:32:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Romans 12:19-21 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, forit is written, ³Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.² 20 To thecontrary, ³if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give himsomething to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on hishead.² 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. A beautiful exercise in burning onespersonal karma. However theLord did also say"give unto Caesar what is Caesar's". While this was spokenin regards to paying ones taxes, I think it can also be extended to obeying the laws of the nation. Moussaoui was given a fair trial by the laws of the nation and will be treated fairly according to the law. Some say he was shown compassion by being given a life sentence instead of the death penalty which he also could have received on four of the six charges brought against him. Now it seems for some, Life without parole, is not good enough because he will be in a supermax and in isolation which will be the closest thing to guaranteeing him safety from murder within the prison system. Moussaoui has created his own karma, he has created his own destiny. Vengeance will be the Lords. Now isn't there something in the Gita about Krishna saying not to feel troubled or sorrowful for those he has condemned to suffering?In other words , it's their karma coming back on them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
In a message dated 5/4/06 6:21:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why deny them the right to lynch him? I'm suresome people would really enjoy tearing him intolittle tiny pieces.What you don't seem to realize is that's whatmotivates the *terrorists*. Moussaoui has saidhe wanted to kill Americans because America hadkilled Muslims. Revenge only motivates morerevenge. It's a vicious circle. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
In a message dated 5/4/06 6:26:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I said, you want him to *suffer*.The last thing I want is any future terrorist thinking if he gets caught by the United States he'll have an easy life in a cushy American jail complete with all amenities.It wouldn't make any difference, as I said.Knowing they'll do hard time if they're caughtisn't going to deter them in the slightest. If Moussaoui suffers, it's his ownmaking. I'm not going to feel sorry for him if he does. I realize there are those that think deterrence doesn't work. And I agree it can't be relied on to work all the time. But some people do have enough sense to think before they act, especially if they think far enough in advance, not to get involved in terrorism. Once they are sucked in, it's probably too late. However it is funny to hear stories of Americans interrogating prisoners and once they hear the word "Guantanamo", many timesthe prisoner becomes very cooperative and helpful. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please try reading what I wrote, feste. This is Judy's snotty way of saying that she's better than you. Shea always does that (actually, when she's not telling you non sequitor) Ignore her. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: You've no idea what Massaoui will be like in 10, 20, 30 or 40 years. To condemn someone of 37 to a life in a dungeon with almost no human contact is out of all proportion to the offense. People can change. You seem to be saying two things here. First, lock them up forever; second, if they show genuine remorse, consider freeing them. Massaoui has no such option. He could become as saintly as Mother Teresa but it wouldn't do him any good in that hell-hole. This guy needs help, which of course is anathema to those on this board who relish the idea of vengeance. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Life without parole is an inhuman punishment. Until we discover ways to successfully rehabilitate nutcases like Moussaoui who want to murder innocent people en masse, they need to be kept away from society. We *should* be giving them the best psychiatric treatment, and if they can show that they've been healed, and can express genuine remorse, we might consider freeing them. But at this point the only option is to keep them locked up, not for punishment but for society's protection. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moussoui's Life sentence
In a message dated 5/4/06 7:04:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why deny them the right to lynch him?Lynching happens outside the rule of law. Moussaoui has been shown almost infinite more mercy and compassion and due process than any of the victims of the attacks he was in on. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] I don't get this anti-immigrant stuff...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20051201-081528-7276r.htm http://www.vdare.com/ --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because I've been an illegal immigrant at three separate times in my life in the US (I've got a green card now), but what are people so upset about with illegals? I can tell you why I worked illegally here...and it wasn't because I wanted to commit crime or take advantage of anything...I wanted to work hard and make more money than I could back home. I assume that's why every illegal does it, no? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It¿s easy and it¿s free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting To Computer Nirvana
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff anonyff@ wrote: Alex (et al) snip +++Thanks Alex and all. I would wonder if the higher price on the Dell XPS-400 or Mac would indicate there were reliable components used. N. Not necessarly. I haven't disassembled any of the newer Macs, but some of the older Mac laptops were really excellent to work on. There are lots of evaluations of the XPS-400 line to look at: http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=OTI0LDIsLGhlbnRodXNpYXN0 (from the HardOCP enthusiast site) Good photos. Reading it now :) JohnY +++ good reading thanks, will have to do some further looking N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
