[FairfieldLife] Re: Info of interest to Rick Archer?

2006-05-18 Thread t3rinity



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 on 5/17/06 5:35 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Okay...I've got the toolbar up...now what do I do?
 
 The little green bar on it indicates your PageRank. If you hover the
mouse
 over it you'll get a numerical value.

This is from the Newsgroup alt.internet.search-engines 
http://tinyurl.com/zwqfb

'This is apparently what Google sent in response to why a PR 6 page
dropped to PR 0 -

The PageRank that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is for
entertainment purposes only. Due to repeated attempts by hackers to
access this data, Google updates the PageRank data very infrequently
because is it not secure. On average, the PR that is displayed in the
Google Toolbar is several months old. If the toolbar is showing a PR
of zero, this is because the user is visiting a new URL that hasn't
been updated in the last update. The PR that is displayed by the
Google Toolbar is not the same PR that is used to rank the webpage
results so there is no need to be concerned if your PR is displayed as
zero. If a site is showing up in the search results, it doesn't not
have a real PR of zero, the Toolbar is just out of date '










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you ExxonMobil, Thank you Wal-Mart

2006-05-18 Thread Alex Stanley



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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  Funnily, though, as a kid my favourite syrup was corn syrup for my 
  pancakes. I wonder if that was the same as what they use to sweeten 
  everything today...
 
 +++ No- The hfcs is a later developement which everyone should stay
 away from. N.

Looks like HFCS is basically the stuff in original Karo that has been
processed further:

http://www.corn.org/web/syrup.htm

SYRUP CONVERSION
Starch, suspended in water, is liquified in the presence of acid
and/or enzymes which convert the starch to a low-dextrose solution.
Treatment with another enzyme continues the conversion process.
Throughout the process, refiners can halt acid or enzyme actions at
key points to produce the right mixture of sugars like dextrose and
maltose for syrups to meet different needs. In some syrups, the
conversion of starch to sugars is halted at an early stage to produce
low-to-medium sweetness syrups. In others, the conversion is allowed
to proceed until the syrup is nearly all dextrose. The syrup is
refined in filters, centrifuges and ion-exchange columns, and excess
water is evaporated. Syrups are sold directly, crystallized into pure
dextrose, or processed further to create high fructose corn syrup
(illustrated).









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread hermandan0



So if Paul is 63 yrs old, then I gues the answer to the big question
is ...
no.


will you still need me, will you still feed me 


Not that I wish either of them any ill. I just couldn't resist.














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[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you ExxonMobil, Thank you Wal-Mart

2006-05-18 Thread Nelson



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
   Funnily, though, as a kid my favourite syrup was corn syrup
for my 
   pancakes. I wonder if that was the same as what they use to
sweeten 
   everything today...
  
  +++ No- The hfcs is a later developement which everyone should stay
  away from. N.
 
 Looks like HFCS is basically the stuff in original Karo that has been
 processed further:
 
 http://www.corn.org/web/syrup.htm
 
 SYRUP CONVERSION
 Starch, suspended in water, is liquified in the presence of acid
 and/or enzymes which convert the starch to a low-dextrose solution.
 Treatment with another enzyme continues the conversion process.
 Throughout the process, refiners can halt acid or enzyme actions at
 key points to produce the right mixture of sugars like dextrose and
 maltose for syrups to meet different needs. In some syrups, the
 conversion of starch to sugars is halted at an early stage to produce
 low-to-medium sweetness syrups. In others, the conversion is allowed
 to proceed until the syrup is nearly all dextrose. The syrup is
 refined in filters, centrifuges and ion-exchange columns, and excess
 water is evaporated. Syrups are sold directly, crystallized into pure
 dextrose, or processed further to create high fructose corn syrup
 (illustrated).

+++ Right- they turned it into another hazardous waste product.
 Like flouride which had the novel disposal method of having
people consume it and promoting it as a health benefit- think Erin
Brockovich (sp). N.










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you ExxonMobil, Thank you Wal-Mart

2006-05-18 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 5/18/06 7:57:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   SYRUP CONVERSION Starch, suspended in water, is liquified in 
  the presence of acid and/or enzymes which convert the starch to a 
  low-dextrose solution. Treatment with another enzyme continues the 
  conversion process. Throughout the process, refiners can halt acid or 
  enzyme actions at key points to produce the right mixture of sugars 
  like dextrose and maltose for syrups to meet different needs. In some 
  syrups, the conversion of starch to sugars is halted at an early stage 
  to produce low-to-medium sweetness syrups. In others, the conversion 
  is allowed to proceed until the syrup is nearly all dextrose. The 
  syrup is refined in filters, centrifuges and ion-exchange columns, and 
  excess water is evaporated. Syrups are sold directly, crystallized 
  into pure dextrose, or processed further to create high fructose corn 
  syrup (illustrated).+++ Right- they turned it into another 
  hazardous waste product.   Like flouride which had 
  the novel disposal method of havingpeople consume it and promoting it as a 
  health benefit- think ErinBrockovich (sp). 
N.

It is absolutely amazing how conversations can "evolve", 
devolve" from their original topic. If I hadn't been following this topic I 
could almost swear that Exxon and Wal- Mart were into making 
Syrup!





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 5/18/06 7:56:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So if 
  Paul is 63 yrs old, then I gues the answer to the big questionis 
  ...no.will you still need me, will you still feed me 
  Not that I wish either of them any ill. I just couldn't 
  resist.

You know, with 1.5 billion, I wonder if Paul has ever 
considered any facial cosmetic surgery. I bet a good surgeon could take years 
off his face. If he's transcended vanity, bless his 
soul.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you ExxonMobil, Thank you Wal-Mart

2006-05-18 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Looks like HFCS is basically the stuff in original Karo that has
 been processed further:

According to the nutrition label on the bottle:

Ingredients: Light corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, salt, 
vanilla.

http://www.karosyrup.com/nutrition.asp

I read somewhere that the HFCS was added only relatively
recently, that it used to be all corn syrup. Since it
wouldn't appear that HFCS was any cheaper to produce
than plain corn syrup--and may even be more expensive to
produce, since the process takes longer--the Karo folks
must have been catering to what they perceived as people's
preference for greater sweetness.

(Karo Dark does *not* have HFCS in it.)











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread Peter





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 You know, with 1.5 billion, I wonder if Paul has
 ever considered any facial 
 cosmetic surgery. I bet a good surgeon could take
 years off his face. If he's 
 transcended vanity, bless his soul.

Seems to me he's already had face work.



 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] No comment department

2006-05-18 Thread Peter





--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Headline from the front page of NewYorkTimes.com:
 
 House Passes a $2.7 Trillion Spending Plan 
 By EDMUND L. ANDREWS
 The vote came after Republican moderates dropped
 demands for $3 billion 
 for education, health and community-development
 block grants.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 5/18/06 8:28:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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 You 
  know, with 1.5 billion, I wonder if Paul has ever considered any 
  facial  cosmetic surgery. I bet a good surgeon could take 
  years off his face. If he's  transcended vanity, bless his 
  soul.Seems to me he's already had face 
work.

Looks like in some of the pictures I've been seeing, he needs 
it again.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 You know, with 1.5 billion, I wonder if Paul has ever considered any 
 facial cosmetic surgery. I bet a good surgeon could take years off 
 his face. If he's transcended vanity, bless his soul.

In one of the news reports I read or heard, among the
many rumors floating around before their split was that
plastic surgery for Paul was one of the bones of 
contention between them--but it didn't say whether she
wanted him to have it but he didn't, or vice-versa.

The latter seems more likely, given the difference in
their ages, but who knows? Maybe he thought he should
have it done for her, but she preferred him as he was.

Or the rumor could be false, of course.










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
Let's hope it's false.  One would think that undertaking and continuing in a marriage would be based upon something a bit more important than a few wrinkles (or even a lot of them).  But who knows?  In the rarefied air in which they move, maybe that's what's considered a Major Issue.

And if it is, that's really sad.

Sal


On May 18, 2006, at 8:27 AM, authfriend wrote:

In one of the news reports I read or heard, among the
many rumors floating around before their split was that
plastic surgery for Paul was one of the bones of 
contention between them--but it didn't say whether she
wanted him to have it but he didn't, or vice-versa.

The latter seems more likely, given the difference in
their ages, but who knows?  Maybe he thought he should
have it done for her, but she preferred him as he was.

Or the rumor could be false, of course.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  
  You know, with 1.5 billion, I wonder if Paul has ever considered 
any 
  facial cosmetic surgery. I bet a good surgeon could take years 
off 
  his face. If he's transcended vanity, bless his soul.
 
 In one of the news reports I read or heard, among the
 many rumors floating around before their split was that
 plastic surgery for Paul was one of the bones of 
 contention between them--but it didn't say whether she
 wanted him to have it but he didn't, or vice-versa.
 
 The latter seems more likely

Urk. I meant, the *former* seems more likely.

, given the difference in
 their ages, but who knows? Maybe he thought he should
 have it done for her, but she preferred him as he was.
 
 Or the rumor could be false, of course.












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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Let's hope it's false. One would think that undertaking and 
 continuing in a marriage would be based upon something a bit more 
 important than a few wrinkles (or even a lot of them).

Indeed. But this wasn't said to have been what caused
the split; it was just supposed to have been one of many
things they had argued about. For that matter, it *could*
have been a question of career strategy, I suppose, rather
than a personal issue between them.


 But who knows? In the rarefied 
 air in which they move, maybe that's what's considered a Major 
Issue.
 
 And if it is, that's really sad.
 
 Sal
 
 
 On May 18, 2006, at 8:27 AM, authfriend wrote:
 
  In one of the news reports I read or heard, among the
  many rumors floating around before their split was that
  plastic surgery for Paul was one of the bones of
  contention between them--but it didn't say whether she
  wanted him to have it but he didn't, or vice-versa.
 
  The latter seems more likely, given the difference in
  their ages, but who knows?  Maybe he thought he should
  have it done for her, but she preferred him as he was.
 
  Or the rumor could be false, of course.












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[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook

2006-05-18 Thread jim_flanegin



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, abutilon108 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
 wrote:
 
  on 5/15/06 12:14 PM, stadspark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hello,
   
   I am new here...
   
   Howmany governors and/or sidhas are actually on here?
  
  Hard to say. There are many avid lurkers. Also, there are many 
who
 sign up
  and then forget about it and never read the stuff.
   
   Howmany live in Faifield?
  
  Quite a few, but most active posters are out of town.
   
   Do people feel comfortable discussing some of the minet.org
 documnents...?
  
  Sure, but few here have a TM-Ex orientation. Most of us don't see
 the world
  in black and white, and just want to know the truth about things,
 which is
  always mixed. At least that's my attitude.
 
 Hi -- am an occasional lurker (except for one post) and find Rick's
 answer to sum up my position pretty well. Am, or was, a governor,
 having since explored many other paths. Thankful for my 
experience
 with TM, and thankful for many others since. Feel free to discuss
 anything about TM, etc., just don't take the time to add my input 
here.
 
 I enjoy the open discussion about various viewpoints and topics
 although often get lost in the FFL posts as there are a few people
 here who seem to know each other well and have a long history with
 each other, and so the references are often hard to understand if 
you
 don't have that history.
 
 There has been an ongoing process of keeping what is useful to me 
from
 MMY  TM  TMO and letting go of what is not and in the past few 
mos.
 FFL has played some sort of role in that. Although there is much I
 cannot embrace about the TMO (which seems to have something akin 
to a
 fundamentalist religion attitude of this is the best, right, only 
way
 and if you deviate from that you are doomed)

Yep, the TMO's corporate culture could stand some improvement.

Fortunately or otherwise, the members of that organization are held 
almost magnetically to Maharishi, through their desire to gain what 
he has; his 'Maharishi-ness'. 

The contrast there, between the Self realization of Maharishi and 
the Self realization of the members of the TMO is great enough that 
they find themselves rigidly adhering to whatever he says. His 
personality, Indian culture, reflection of his Master, and dharma in 
the warrior caste play a part as well.

But the main thing is the gulf that separates their consciousness 
from his. Much like we control the actions of a child when it is 
very little, and less so when it begins to understand the ways of 
the world. Similarly, they are rigidly controlled now, and hence 
rigidly control themselves and those around them. Once they grow up 
some, if the TMO still exists, this should lessen. There are 
probably pockets of greater spiritual maturity within the TMO, but 
that is pure speculation on my part.

Maharishi, through Guru Dev, is a very, very powerful man, whose 
goal is to bring enlightenment to the world. Not an easy task, 
though he has enlarged his consciousness through the guidance and 
grace of Guru Dev to be able to do so. Those around him are so 
deeply fried as a result, they also need the rigidity of action and 
absolute adherence to rules to avoid going crazy. 

I hope that they are enjoying themselves along the way!










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Info of interest to Rick Archer?

2006-05-18 Thread Rick Archer



on 5/18/06 5:41 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 on 5/17/06 5:35 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Okay...I've got the toolbar up...now what do I do?
 
 The little green bar on it indicates your PageRank. If you hover the
 mouse
 over it you'll get a numerical value.
 
 This is from the Newsgroup alt.internet.search-engines
 http://tinyurl.com/zwqfb
 
 'This is apparently what Google sent in response to why a PR 6 page
 dropped to PR 0 -
 
 The PageRank that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is for
 entertainment purposes only. Due to repeated attempts by hackers to
 access this data, Google updates the PageRank data very infrequently
 because is it not secure. On average, the PR that is displayed in the
 Google Toolbar is several months old. If the toolbar is showing a PR
 of zero, this is because the user is visiting a new URL that hasn't
 been updated in the last update. The PR that is displayed by the
 Google Toolbar is not the same PR that is used to rank the webpage
 results so there is no need to be concerned if your PR is displayed as
 zero. If a site is showing up in the search results, it doesn't not
 have a real PR of zero, the Toolbar is just out of date '

Good point. It's better continue to build content and relevant incoming
links to your site than to obsess about PageRank. But PageRank does continue
to get updated occasionally, and is a rough indicator of Google's assessment
of a site.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Info of interest to Rick Archer?

2006-05-18 Thread curtisdeltablues



Is this the reason my guest book on my site got spammed out of
existence, to put URL links on my page to improve their rank? Now I
have to install one of those authentication codes with the freaky
looking letters.



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 on 5/18/06 5:41 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
  wrote:
  
  on 5/17/06 5:35 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote:
  
  Okay...I've got the toolbar up...now what do I do?
  
  The little green bar on it indicates your PageRank. If you hover the
  mouse
  over it you'll get a numerical value.
  
  This is from the Newsgroup alt.internet.search-engines
  http://tinyurl.com/zwqfb
  
  'This is apparently what Google sent in response to why a PR 6 page
  dropped to PR 0 -
  
  The PageRank that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is for
  entertainment purposes only. Due to repeated attempts by hackers to
  access this data, Google updates the PageRank data very infrequently
  because is it not secure. On average, the PR that is displayed in the
  Google Toolbar is several months old. If the toolbar is showing a PR
  of zero, this is because the user is visiting a new URL that hasn't
  been updated in the last update. The PR that is displayed by the
  Google Toolbar is not the same PR that is used to rank the webpage
  results so there is no need to be concerned if your PR is displayed as
  zero. If a site is showing up in the search results, it doesn't not
  have a real PR of zero, the Toolbar is just out of date '
 
 Good point. It's better continue to build content and relevant incoming
 links to your site than to obsess about PageRank. But PageRank does
continue
 to get updated occasionally, and is a rough indicator of Google's
assessment
 of a site.











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[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook

2006-05-18 Thread markmeredith2002



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, abutilon108 
 abutilon108@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
  wrote:
  
   on 5/15/06 12:14 PM, stadspark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Hello,

I am new here...

Howmany governors and/or sidhas are actually on here?
   
   Hard to say. There are many avid lurkers. Also, there are many 
 who
  sign up
   and then forget about it and never read the stuff.

Howmany live in Faifield?
   
   Quite a few, but most active posters are out of town.

Do people feel comfortable discussing some of the minet.org
  documnents...?
   
   Sure, but few here have a TM-Ex orientation. Most of us don't see
  the world
   in black and white, and just want to know the truth about things,
  which is
   always mixed. At least that's my attitude.
  
  Hi -- am an occasional lurker (except for one post) and find Rick's
  answer to sum up my position pretty well. Am, or was, a governor,
  having since explored many other paths. Thankful for my 
 experience
  with TM, and thankful for many others since. Feel free to discuss
  anything about TM, etc., just don't take the time to add my input 
 here.
  
  I enjoy the open discussion about various viewpoints and topics
  although often get lost in the FFL posts as there are a few people
  here who seem to know each other well and have a long history with
  each other, and so the references are often hard to understand if 
 you
  don't have that history.
  
  There has been an ongoing process of keeping what is useful to me 
 from
  MMY  TM  TMO and letting go of what is not and in the past few 
 mos.
  FFL has played some sort of role in that. Although there is much I
  cannot embrace about the TMO (which seems to have something akin 
 to a
  fundamentalist religion attitude of this is the best, right, only 
 way
  and if you deviate from that you are doomed)
 
 Yep, the TMO's corporate culture could stand some improvement.
 
 Fortunately or otherwise, the members of that organization are held 
 almost magnetically to Maharishi, through their desire to gain what 
 he has; his 'Maharishi-ness'. 
 
 The contrast there, between the Self realization of Maharishi and 
 the Self realization of the members of the TMO is great enough that 
 they find themselves rigidly adhering to whatever he says. His 
 personality, Indian culture, reflection of his Master, and dharma in 
 the warrior caste play a part as well.
 
 But the main thing is the gulf that separates their consciousness 
 from his. Much like we control the actions of a child when it is 
 very little, and less so when it begins to understand the ways of 
 the world. Similarly, they are rigidly controlled now, and hence 
 rigidly control themselves and those around them. Once they grow up 
 some, if the TMO still exists, this should lessen. There are 
 probably pockets of greater spiritual maturity within the TMO, but 
 that is pure speculation on my part.
 
 Maharishi, through Guru Dev, is a very, very powerful man, whose 
 goal is to bring enlightenment to the world. Not an easy task, 
 though he has enlarged his consciousness through the guidance and 
 grace of Guru Dev to be able to do so. Those around him are so 
 deeply fried as a result, they also need the rigidity of action and 
 absolute adherence to rules to avoid going crazy. 
 
 I hope that they are enjoying themselves along the way!

I used to believe the above narrative but now think it's just a
rationalization to keep the dream alive. Too many non sequiturs --
the people close to MMY have been close to him for over 30 yrs now and
doing his techniques for longer, but their consciousness is still so
unevolved and immature? And these 50-something adults still require
rigidity to avoid going crazy? Since when do truly powerful leaders
surround themselves solely with immature yes-men? 

I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain
highly evolved people, but my experience in recent yrs is that being
around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy, rigid,
immature and unevolved. 









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[FairfieldLife] Da Vinci Code

2006-05-18 Thread TurquoiseB



So | saw it today in Montpellier. Not IMO considerably
better than the book, which speaks volumes if you read
the book :-), but worth seeing and interesting in that
it got a bit of spiritual out-of-the-box thinking in
front of a large audience. That's to be applauded, in
my estimation.

Just a note to Vaj, who might be the only person who
gets this. In the credits for the music, guess who 
showed up playing violin? Hugh Marsh. Good for him.

And yes, they did gut much of the controversy of the
novel, and went especially light on the demonization
of women by the Catholic Church. It would have been
a much better film IMO if they hadn't done that. But
I think that they probably thought that suggesting
that Christ was both human and married was enough
controversy to stir up in one film. :-)

No great performances, sadly. The locations in which
the movie was shot probably speak more loudly of 
antiquity and its mysteries than the film or the
actors did. But well worth seeing, I think...











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[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook

2006-05-18 Thread jim_flanegin



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, abutilon108 
  abutilon108@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
fairfieldlife@
   wrote:
   
on 5/15/06 12:14 PM, stadspark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am new here...
 
 Howmany governors and/or sidhas are actually on here?

Hard to say. There are many avid lurkers. Also, there are 
many 
  who
   sign up
and then forget about it and never read the stuff.
 
 Howmany live in Faifield?

Quite a few, but most active posters are out of town.
 
 Do people feel comfortable discussing some of the minet.org
   documnents...?

Sure, but few here have a TM-Ex orientation. Most of us 
don't see
   the world
in black and white, and just want to know the truth about 
things,
   which is
always mixed. At least that's my attitude.
   
   Hi -- am an occasional lurker (except for one post) and find 
Rick's
   answer to sum up my position pretty well. Am, or was, a 
governor,
   having since explored many other paths. Thankful for my 
  experience
   with TM, and thankful for many others since. Feel free to 
discuss
   anything about TM, etc., just don't take the time to add my 
input 
  here.
   
   I enjoy the open discussion about various viewpoints and topics
   although often get lost in the FFL posts as there are a few 
people
   here who seem to know each other well and have a long history 
with
   each other, and so the references are often hard to understand 
if 
  you
   don't have that history.
   
   There has been an ongoing process of keeping what is useful to 
me 
  from
   MMY  TM  TMO and letting go of what is not and in the past 
few 
  mos.
   FFL has played some sort of role in that. Although there is 
much I
   cannot embrace about the TMO (which seems to have something 
akin 
  to a
   fundamentalist religion attitude of this is the best, right, 
only 
  way
   and if you deviate from that you are doomed)
  
  Yep, the TMO's corporate culture could stand some improvement.
  
  Fortunately or otherwise, the members of that organization are 
held 
  almost magnetically to Maharishi, through their desire to gain 
what 
  he has; his 'Maharishi-ness'. 
  
  The contrast there, between the Self realization of Maharishi 
and 
  the Self realization of the members of the TMO is great enough 
that 
  they find themselves rigidly adhering to whatever he says. His 
  personality, Indian culture, reflection of his Master, and 
dharma in 
  the warrior caste play a part as well.
  
  But the main thing is the gulf that separates their 
consciousness 
  from his. Much like we control the actions of a child when it is 
  very little, and less so when it begins to understand the ways 
of 
  the world. Similarly, they are rigidly controlled now, and hence 
  rigidly control themselves and those around them. Once they grow 
up 
  some, if the TMO still exists, this should lessen. There are 
  probably pockets of greater spiritual maturity within the TMO, 
but 
  that is pure speculation on my part.
  
  Maharishi, through Guru Dev, is a very, very powerful man, whose 
  goal is to bring enlightenment to the world. Not an easy task, 
  though he has enlarged his consciousness through the guidance 
and 
  grace of Guru Dev to be able to do so. Those around him are so 
  deeply fried as a result, they also need the rigidity of action 
and 
  absolute adherence to rules to avoid going crazy. 
  
  I hope that they are enjoying themselves along the way!
 
 I used to believe the above narrative but now think it's just a
 rationalization to keep the dream alive. 

I've never been much good at writing while dreaming.

Too many non sequiturs --
 the people close to MMY have been close to him for over 30 yrs now 
and
 doing his techniques for longer, but their consciousness is still 
so
 unevolved and immature? 

Its a contrast thing compared to the consciousness he is 
manifesting, so Yes, correct.

And these 50-something adults still require
 rigidity to avoid going crazy? 

Apparently.

Since when do truly powerful leaders
 surround themselves solely with immature yes-men?

I don't understand the question. His mission is unique, no basis for 
comparison. Magnetic attraction?
 
 
 I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain
 highly evolved people, but my experience in recent yrs is that 
being
 around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy, rigid,
 immature and unevolved.

Clear channel to Shiva. What more can I say?











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2006-05-18 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Driver needed from Fairfield to L.A.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: new york question

2006-05-18 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 5/17/06 7:47:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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 Can't figure out what rajas  co are up to really -
  rajas everywhere 
  looking at real estate; in New York - for a new
  financial centre with 
  fortune creating buildings etc. Now the idea is to
  ring-fence NY with 
  12 such centres, each connected to another 12
  somewhere else.. The 
  expectation being that New Yorkers will soon want to
  demolish 90% of 
  buildings because badly aspected etc. But where's
  all the money coming 
  from? And how will spending it all on NY help
  eliminate global 
  poverty??? It's all fantasy land. Why not build 12 x
  12 x 12 cities on 
  the moon next. Real estate there is free.. and there
  is no water to 
  complicate orientation criteria either!
 
 H, the moon...not a bad idea!
 
 
 
 
 
 I think these guys just need to get a real job. They obviously have entirely 
 too much free time on hand.


A few might be trust-fund babies, but as far as I know, most managed to make the million 
that they donated for the right to wear the crown. What right do you have to suggest that 
THEY get a real job? Can YOU afford to pay a million bucks in order to wear that silly hat?











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[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook

2006-05-18 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain
 highly evolved people, but my experience in recent yrs is that being
 around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy, rigid,
 immature and unevolved.


So ARE the people surrounding MMY fried, crazy, rigid, immature and unevolved?











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[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook

2006-05-18 Thread jim_flanegin



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
markmeredith@ wrote:
 [...]
  I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain
  highly evolved people, but my experience in recent yrs is that 
being
  around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy, rigid,
  immature and unevolved.
 
 
 So ARE the people surrounding MMY fried, crazy, rigid, immature and 
unevolved?

Good question.









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Info of interest to Rick Archer?

2006-05-18 Thread Rick Archer



on 5/18/06 9:58 AM, curtisdeltablues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is this the reason my guest book on my site got spammed out of
 existence, to put URL links on my page to improve their rank? Now I
 have to install one of those authentication codes with the freaky
 looking letters.

Yes.








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new York question

2006-05-18 Thread Rick Archer



on 5/18/06 10:49 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I think these guys just need to get a real job. They obviously have entirely
 too much free time on hand.
 
 
 A few might be trust-fund babies, but as far as I know, most managed to make
 the million 
 that they donated for the right to wear the crown. What right do you have to
 suggest that 
 THEY get a real job? Can YOU afford to pay a million bucks in order to wear
 that silly hat?

All the ones I can think of inherited the money, or their wives did: John
Konhaus, Paul Potter, Graham DeFreitas, John (Black) Bright, etc. Can you
tell us which ones actually earned it?








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Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook

2006-05-18 Thread Rick Archer



on 5/18/06 10:56 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 [...]
 I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain
 highly evolved people, but my experience in recent yrs is that being
 around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy, rigid,
 immature and unevolved.
 
 
 So ARE the people surrounding MMY fried, crazy, rigid, immature and unevolved?

Yes, no, and everywhere in between.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: new York question

2006-05-18 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 5/18/06 10:49 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I think these guys just need to get a real job. They obviously have entirely
  too much free time on hand.
  
  
  A few might be trust-fund babies, but as far as I know, most managed to make
  the million 
  that they donated for the right to wear the crown. What right do you have to
  suggest that 
  THEY get a real job? Can YOU afford to pay a million bucks in order to wear
  that silly hat?
 
 All the ones I can think of inherited the money, or their wives did: John
 Konhaus, Paul Potter, Graham DeFreitas, John (Black) Bright, etc. Can you
 tell us which ones actually earned it?


So none of them were ever successful in business? Just because you inherited money 
doesn't make you a trust fund baby.












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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new York question

2006-05-18 Thread Rick Archer



on 5/18/06 12:30 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 on 5/18/06 10:49 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I think these guys just need to get a real job. They obviously have
 entirely
 too much free time on hand.
 
 
 A few might be trust-fund babies, but as far as I know, most managed to make
 the million 
 that they donated for the right to wear the crown. What right do you have to
 suggest that 
 THEY get a real job? Can YOU afford to pay a million bucks in order to
 wear
 that silly hat?
 
 All the ones I can think of inherited the money, or their wives did: John
 Konhaus, Paul Potter, Graham DeFreitas, John (Black) Bright, etc. Can you
 tell us which ones actually earned it?
 
 
 So none of them were ever successful in business?

None of the ones I mentioned were. I don't have a complete list.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: new York question

2006-05-18 Thread markmeredith2002



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
wrote:
 
  on 5/18/06 10:49 AM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote:
   
   I think these guys just need to get a real job. They obviously
 have entirely
   too much free time on hand.
   
   
   A few might be trust-fund babies, but as far as I know, most
managed to make
   the million 
   that they donated for the right to wear the crown. What right do
you have to
   suggest that 
   THEY get a real job? Can YOU afford to pay a million bucks in
order to wear
   that silly hat?
  
  All the ones I can think of inherited the money, or their wives
did: John
  Konhaus, Paul Potter, Graham DeFreitas, John (Black) Bright, etc.
Can you
  tell us which ones actually earned it?
 
 
 So none of them were ever successful in business? Just because you
inherited money 
 doesn't make you a trust fund baby.

Bob LoPinto and (?) Dean have been successful in business. None of
the others that I'm aware of. 









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[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: TSM SPRING € SUMMER NEWSLETTER 2006 (S)

2006-05-18 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ 
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  From Mike Scozzari:
  
   
   From our recent stamped mailing plus a few updates - enjoy
   
   
   Transcendental 
   Stress Management
   SPRING € SUMMER NEWSLETTER 2006
   OUR NEW PHONE NUMBERS
   Main Numbers 954 354-0804 and 954 429-8238 Cell 561 542-
9200
   New web site: www.tsmforlife.com email - ms@
   P.O. Box 4731, Deerfield Beach 33442
   
   
   Combining meditation instruction, yoga and ayurveda health 
care into
   affordable educational programs
   
   We are very pleased to announce that our office has changed 
our name and
   services. We want to offer different and additional holistic 
programs to our
   students and as you can see we've changed the name to 
Transcendental Stress
   Management. This new opportunity for a change of services 
provides
   affordable programs geared to enrich individual life.
   
   We offer instruction in Vedic Meditation, Yoga, Ayurveda, and 
Knowledge.
   These time-tested formulas improve health, reduce stress and 
connect us with
   our higher self. According to the extensive published and on-
going research
   on the benefits of meditation, yoga and ayurveda (NIH Web 
Site) students can
   improve their health, longevity and life as a whole.
   
   Roots in the ancient traditions
   We respect the ancient knowledge with it's eternal 
authenticity in the vedic
   literature and practice. For thousands of years lovers of 
truth everywhere
   have marveled at the simplicity of vedic knowledge, universal 
truths of life
   that are available to all regardless of belief or religious 
convictions. As
   to a name for this knowledge someone made a good point when 
they said  ...
   doesn't matter, as long as the man is getting something useful 
to make his
   life better, we are satisfied.
   
   Our primary inspiration, and the source of the Vedic 
Meditation we teach, is
   Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Guru Dev, who was the 
Shankaracharya of
   northern India 1940 to 1953.  The Shankaracharya is the 
custodian of the
   knowledge tradition started by Shankara about 2,500 years 
ago.  Shankara is
   well-known in India for leading a great revival of the Vedic 
Tradition of
   Knowledge, which includes the understanding and direct 
experience of the
   Unity of all life. 
   
   
 
 Hmmm... So no relationship between this and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?
 These folks studied directly with Gurudev?

This is the guy in Florida the TMO sued--or threatened
to sue--to stop him from calling what he teaches
Transcendental Meditation. See the disclaimer at the
very end.

He says nothing here about having studied with Guru
Dev, of course. Don't know where you got that from.

Seems to me the way he handles it is quite graceful
and entirely appropriate, and the newsletter is *very*
impressive. If it's an accurate reflection of what
he's offering, that's very impressive too. I don't
know exactly what he was doing before, but I'd guess
he's going to do significantly better than before
the lawsuit threat.










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: TSM SPRING € SUMME R NEWSLETTER 2006 (S)

2006-05-18 Thread Vaj




On May 18, 2006, at 1:32 PM, sparaig wrote:


 Hmmm... So no relationship between this and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? 
 These folks studied
 directly with Gurudev?


How else do we uphold the impurity of the tradition?

But think of the money you'll save!






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[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook

2006-05-18 Thread TurquoiseB



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 I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain
 highly evolved people, but my experience in recent yrs is that 
 being around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy, 
 rigid, immature and unevolved.

Exactly the opposite. Greater clarity and flexibility.













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Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook

2006-05-18 Thread Vaj




On May 18, 2006, at 2:50 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I guess it's possible people can get fried being close to certain
  highly evolved people, but my experience in recent yrs is that
  being around high shakti produces the opposite of fried, crazy,
  rigid, immature and unevolved.

 Exactly the opposite. Greater clarity and flexibility.

And spontaneous resolution of many patterns. It's not unusual to go 
into a state of Unity when in their presence. It's called entering 
the mandala of the teacher and is unmistakable.

Long standing questions can simply resolve on their own. No matter 
how you search your mind the tension that was the question will 
have dissolved and you will have the answer as part of your natural 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 5/18/06 8:33:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one 
  of the news reports I read or heard, among themany rumors floating around 
  before their split was thatplastic surgery for Paul was one of the bones 
  of contention between them--but it didn't say whether shewanted him to 
  have it but he didn't, or vice-versa.The latter seems more likely, 
  given the difference intheir ages, but who knows? Maybe he thought 
  he shouldhave it done for her, but she preferred him as he was.Or 
  the rumor could be false, of course.

One thing is for sure,as I signed on a minute ago, is 
that Paul didn't have a prenup. and stands to lose hundreds of millions! It was 
a costly decision.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new York question

2006-05-18 Thread Peter





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 on 5/18/06 12:30 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  on 5/18/06 10:49 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
  I think these guys just need to get a real job.
 They obviously have
  entirely
  too much free time on hand.
  
  
  A few might be trust-fund babies, but as far as
 I know, most managed to make
  the million 
  that they donated for the right to wear the
 crown. What right do you have to
  suggest that 
  THEY get a real job? Can YOU afford to pay a
 million bucks in order to
  wear
  that silly hat?
  
  All the ones I can think of inherited the money,
 or their wives did: John
  Konhaus, Paul Potter, Graham DeFreitas, John
 (Black) Bright, etc. Can you
  tell us which ones actually earned it?
  
  
  So none of them were ever successful in business?
 
 None of the ones I mentioned were. I don't have a
 complete list.

Rogers Badgett inherited his dough, but he's managed
it pretty well it seems.

 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 One thing is for sure, as I signed on a minute ago, is that Paul
 didn't have a prenup. and stands to lose hundreds of millions! It 
 was a costly decision.

Apparently she offered to sign one, and he said no.

But I don't quite understand the buzz about how much
money he's going to lose. Is she suing him? They've
said the separation is amicable. Why does everybody
assume she's going to take him for as much as she can
get?

On the other hand, he's rolling in dough. Even if she
took half, he'd still be fabulously wealthy.










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Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook

2006-05-18 Thread Peter





--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On May 18, 2006, at 2:50 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 markmeredith2002
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I guess it's possible people can get fried being
 close to certain
   highly evolved people, but my experience in
 recent yrs is that
   being around high shakti produces the opposite
 of fried, crazy,
   rigid, immature and unevolved.
 
  Exactly the opposite. Greater clarity and
 flexibility.
 
 And spontaneous resolution of many patterns. It's
 not unusual to go 
 into a state of Unity when in their presence. It's
 called entering 
 the mandala of the teacher and is unmistakable.
 
 Long standing questions can simply resolve on their
 own. No matter 
 how you search your mind the tension that was the
 question will 
 have dissolved and you will have the answer as part
 of your natural 
 state.

I've had both experiences around SSRS. Years ago when
I first experienced him giving personal darshan my
body had a difficult time being around him as would
radiate this powerful darshan that would make me get
terrible headaches. Now it's smooth as silk even when
he's radiating like a supernova. Just some
purification of some subtle bodies needed!



 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread Sal Sunshine
I don't understand it either, esp. since all the other Beatles went through divorces and, as far as I know, nobody lost their shirts.  Did they all have prenups?  Doubtful, since at least John and Ringo got married before they became famous.

Sal


On May 18, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote:

But I don't quite understand the buzz about how much
money he's going to lose.  Is she suing him?  They've
said the separation is amicable.  Why does everybody
assume she's going to take him for as much as she can
get?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rig Ved rec?

2006-05-18 Thread at_man_and_brahman



Ooops. The translation I provided below was
not by H.H. Wilson. Big dufus that I am, I 
provided Sarvadeshik Arya Pratinidhi Sabha's
translation of I.164.39.

Wilson's translation is

All the gods have taken their seats upon
this supreme heaven, the imperishable
(text) of the Ved: what will he, who knows
not this, do with the Veda? But they who do
know it, they are perfect.

After reviewing many translations years ago,
Maharishi was convinced that Wilson's was
the most effective at inducing a flow of soma
and all of that. According to Gregg Wilson,
he also said that one day he would do a translation
that would cause gushers of soma.

Still waiting for that one.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Does anyone know a translation of the Rig Ved that is still available 
  that Maharishi has recommended in the past?
 
 H.H. Wilson's translation.
 
 Or does anyone recommend 
  one that is close to the way he teaches the meaning. I was thinking of 
  the 'Richo Akshare' (which I used to think of as the 'Rick Archer' 
  verse:-) verse for example: The impulses of creative intelligence 
  expressed in the Verses of the Ved (all knowledge) exist in the 
  collapse of fullness in the transcendental field. In which reside all 
  the impulses of creative intelligence, the laws of nature, responsible 
  for the whole manifest universe
 
 Even Wilson differs substantially on 
 the Rick Archer verse.
 
 God is imperishable, supreme, all pervading.
 It is being dealt within the Vedas and the 
 earth, the sun and other luminaries dwell
 in Him. What will one do merely by studying
 the Vedas if he does not know God. Those
 who know Him, they dwell happily in Him.
 
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: new York question

2006-05-18 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 5/18/06 12:37:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
as far 
  as I know, most managed to make  the million   that 
  they donated for the right to wear the crown.   All the ones I 
  can think of inherited the money, or their wives did: John Konhaus, 
  Paul Potter, Graham DeFreitas, John (Black) Bright, etc. Can you tell 
  us which ones actually earned it?So none of them were ever 
  successful in business? Just because you inherited money doesn't make you 
  a trust fund baby.

I've never seen any evidence that any of them are anything but 
trust fund babies or married into their wealth. Spare egg you seem sure that at 
least some did otherwise. A name or two with a successful business career 
wouldprove your point. I'm inclined to believe anybody that wears a crown 
in the TMO has been very close to MMY for too many years to have built 
their own fortune, but that's just MHO.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread shirleybrahman



Let's say that she got half of his reported $1.5 billion. I realize
that $750,000 is not too much money, certainly not as much as most
people commenting on how this will impact poor Paul make. But I think
if he really kept his eye on his money, and made certain that every
time he used the atm machine he actualy wrote it down in his
checkbook, he should be okay. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I don't understand it either, esp. since all the other Beatles went 
 through divorces and, as far as I know, nobody lost their shirts. Did 
 they all have prenups? Doubtful, since at least John and Ringo got 
 married before they became famous.
 
 Sal
 
 
 On May 18, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote:
 
  But I don't quite understand the buzz about how much
  money he's going to lose. Is she suing him? They've
  said the separation is amicable. Why does everybody
  assume she's going to take him for as much as she can
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread shirleybrahman



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shirleybrahman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Let's say that she got half of his reported $1.5 billion. I realize
 that $750,000 

ops that is supposed to be I realize that $750,000,000 is
not too much money...

is not too much money, certainly not as much as most
 people commenting on how this will impact poor Paul make. But I think
 if he really kept his eye on his money, and made certain that every
 time he used the atm machine he actualy wrote it down in his
 checkbook, he should be okay. 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
 wrote:
 
  I don't understand it either, esp. since all the other Beatles went 
  through divorces and, as far as I know, nobody lost their shirts.
 Did 
  they all have prenups? Doubtful, since at least John and Ringo got 
  married before they became famous.
  
  Sal
  
  
  On May 18, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote:
  
   But I don't quite understand the buzz about how much
   money he's going to lose. Is she suing him? They've
   said the separation is amicable. Why does everybody
   assume she's going to take him for as much as she can
   get?
 











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 5/18/06 2:36:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Apparently she offered to sign one, and he said no.But I don't 
  quite understand the buzz about how muchmoney he's going to lose. Is 
  she suing him? They'vesaid the separation is amicable. Why 
  does everybodyassume she's going to take him for as much as she 
  canget?On the other hand, he's rolling in dough. Even if 
  shetook half, he'd still be fabulously 
wealthy.

Judy I was just going by the headline on AOL as I signed on. 
It's just a possibility. It doesn't look like there will be a big battle for 
loot at this time.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 5/18/06 2:36:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Apparently she offered to sign one, and he said no.
 
 But I don't quite understand the buzz about how much
 money he's going to lose. Is she suing him? They've
 said the separation is amicable. Why does everybody
 assume she's going to take him for as much as she can
 get?
 
 On the other hand, he's rolling in dough. Even if she
 took half, he'd still be fabulously wealthy.
 
 Judy I was just going by the headline on AOL as I signed on. It's 
 just a possibility. It doesn't look like there will be a big battle 
 for loot at this time.

I hope not. But I've run into the notion that
she's going to take the money and run a whole
bunch of times now. I was wondering if there was
some *law* in the UK that she had to get a
particular amount if there wasn't a prenup. I
don't think there is in the U.S.











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.





on 5/18/06 2:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 5/18/06 8:33:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one of the news reports I read or heard, among the
many rumors floating around before their split was that
plastic surgery for Paul was one of the bones of 
contention between them--but it didn't say whether she
wanted him to have it but he didn't, or vice-versa.

The latter seems more likely, given the difference in
their ages, but who knows? Maybe he thought he should
have it done for her, but she preferred him as he was.

Or the rumor could be false, of course.
One thing is for sure, as I signed on a minute ago, is that Paul didn't have a prenup. and stands to lose hundreds of millions! It was a costly decision.

Hes probably more broken up about the relationship than the money. Hell have over a billion left even if she takes $450 mil.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?

2006-05-18 Thread Jason Spock



   Maharishi always said, "I am WholeSaler of Consciousness.!!". This is what my initator Quoted him saying that decades ago.!! Why all of a sudden change the tune.?? and cater to elitist snobs.?? Heart of the SETI project.? Carl Sagan's search for extraterrestrials program. They decided to use the computing power of millions of personal computers all over the world. The massive computing power
 of the combined PC's world over, broke the pentabyte barrier. It made the world's most powerful super-Computer look like a bullock-cart in comparison of speed.!! The combined marketing base of the ordinary class, even if priced cheaper would be far greater that what the elitist snobs could generate. It makes no sense from the marketing point of view. The elitist snobs could be given special elite courses and that cash-cow could be maintained side by side.??  ashelkent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:  Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 14:32:47 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?I can tell you for sure that the high prices come straight from MMY. Many Many people including John Hegelin have tried to convince him that the high prices were counter productive. I heard of one instance where MMY began to leave the room rather than continue a discussion on this subject. At that point the proponents of reasonable prices relented. Same with raising tuition at MUM. A few years ago he wanted to make MUM an elite university overnight. The plan was to increase cost of attendance 50% to 30K, stop giving university subsidized scholarships, and market to rich families. There was very little discussion from the faculty (in public). It was just done. I was there. I believe it is true
 that MMY is surround by people who mostly tell him what he wants to hear. But, on this issue he has gotten a lot of negative feedback, repeatedly over the years.  sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 14:15:51 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?Nope. MMY's stated goal is to appeal to elitist snobs because they run the world. Leaving aside questions about whether or not TM will be of value to them (and thereby of greater value to the rest of the world because the rich and elite are getting something out of their TM practice), the decision to charge lots of money for TM practice to appeal directly to the elite is
 perfectly valid and sane.I mean, do you think your average CEO surfs the net to find minet and learns to meditate from a website, as an extreme opposite-end example? Even if they did, do you think that the CEO of IBM would instruct his employees to go to the same website, or would he hire expensive consultants to teach in-house? Keep in mind that he has to justify ANY expense by documenting it to the board of directors. Where's the 30 year's research on the minet technique documented? Can you PROVE to the accountant's satisfaction that the minet site instructions have the same effect as TM? Can he prove that setting aside 20 minutes twice-a-day to practice minet meditation is justifiable? He MAY be able to do it with TM, but not with the website technique, regardless of whether or not there is a measureable difference between them. No-one is going to sponsor the measurements in the first place so the assertion can never be proven to the accountants'
 satisfaction.Jacking the price of TM up may be a horrible mistake, but it certainly makes sense from a marketing point of view.Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a Pure Capitalist economy, things are dictated purely by 'Demand and Supply'. In a competitive field where there are 40,000 TM teachers and other Spiritual cults,  Is it wise for the TM-org to fix such high, exorbitant price for TM..??  I think, Somebody is misguiding Maharishi.??  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook

2006-05-18 Thread Vaj




On May 18, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Peter wrote:


 --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  On May 18, 2006, at 2:50 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
  markmeredith2002
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I guess it's possible people can get fried being
  close to certain
highly evolved people, but my experience in
  recent yrs is that
being around high shakti produces the opposite
  of fried, crazy,
rigid, immature and unevolved.
  
   Exactly the opposite. Greater clarity and
  flexibility.
 
  And spontaneous resolution of many patterns. It's
  not unusual to go
  into a state of Unity when in their presence. It's
  called entering
  the mandala of the teacher and is unmistakable.
 
  Long standing questions can simply resolve on their
  own. No matter
  how you search your mind the tension that was the
  question will
  have dissolved and you will have the answer as part
  of your natural
  state.

 I've had both experiences around SSRS. Years ago when
 I first experienced him giving personal darshan my
 body had a difficult time being around him as would
 radiate this powerful darshan that would make me get
 terrible headaches. Now it's smooth as silk even when
 he's radiating like a supernova. Just some
 purification of some subtle bodies needed!


I've had similar experiences as what you're describing, but that 
seemed to be shakti and therefore relative. In what I was describing 
there was no overtly energetic component or shakti, just a shift and 
tensions in awareness relaxed like dew disappearing in the presence 
of the sun. It's only when you shifted in your awareness that you 
realized. In some cases one can comprehend an entire teaching in this 
way with no intervening process--the knowledge was always already 
present in the natural (non-dual) state which is our true condition: 
the tension of the unresolved question is simply gone.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY, eh?

2006-05-18 Thread Jason Spock



   Is it ethical for you to make such wild allegations on Maharishi.?? Maharishi is a monk and celibate, So the idea of lifemate does not arise.  Prostitution exists all over the world. in India, in China, in Iran...  Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 10:47:36 -0400Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girlfriends Galore for MMY,
 eh?Of course he's lived in a country where prostitution is legal for how long now? No need for a lifemate, just cash and a place to go.   On May 16, 2006, at 10:40 AM, sparaig wrote:   I see no contradiction between his public statements on the subject  and his private behavior, regardless of the truth of the rumors of his having GFs  over the years. At worst, he never found a lifemate.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Info of interest to Rick Archer?

2006-05-18 Thread bob_brigante



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 5/18/06 3:16:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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I hope 
  not. But I've run into the notion thatshe's going to take the money 
  and run a wholebunch of times now. I was wondering if there 
  wassome *law* in the UK that she had to get aparticular amount if 
  there wasn't a prenup. Idon't think there is in the 
  U.S.

Well don't be surprised if she does try a money grab. I bet 
there are a lot of lawyers wanting to tell her what they can do for her right 
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[FairfieldLife] Diesels running on waste vegetable oil

2006-05-18 Thread Patrick Gillam



I've been researching the whole phenomenon of 
fueling a diesel vehicle on waste vegetable oil. 
Seeing as how Fairfield used to have more than 
its share of innovators and alternative lifestylers, 
I figured I should do a little networking here, as 
well as in forums dedicated to that topic. Anyone 
here doing it? Know anybody who is?

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Info of interest to Rick Archer?

2006-05-18 Thread Rick Archer



on 5/18/06 7:52 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.webmonkey.com/01/23/index1a.html

Good article, but 5 years old, so much has changed, but many of its key
points are still valid. The most important things about SEO don't change
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
  
  In a message dated 5/18/06 2:36:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
  jstein@ writes:
  
  Apparently she offered to sign one, and he said no.
  
  But I don't quite understand the buzz about how much
  money he's going to lose. Is she suing him? They've
  said the separation is amicable. Why does everybody
  assume she's going to take him for as much as she can
  get?
  
  On the other hand, he's rolling in dough. Even if she
  took half, he'd still be fabulously wealthy.
  
  Judy I was just going by the headline on AOL as I signed on. It's 
  just a possibility. It doesn't look like there will be a big battle 
  for loot at this time.
 
 I hope not. But I've run into the notion that
 she's going to take the money and run a whole
 bunch of times now. I was wondering if there was
 some *law* in the UK that she had to get a
 particular amount if there wasn't a prenup. I
 don't think there is in the U.S.


State by state variation. In arizona, its 50% of everything, period, IIRC.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?

2006-05-18 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Maharishi always said, I am WholeSaler of Consciousness.!!. This is what my 
initator Quoted him saying that decades ago.!!
 
 Why all of a sudden change the tune.?? and cater to elitist snobs.??
 
 Heart of the SETI project.? Carl Sagan's search for extraterrestrials program. They 
decided to use the computing power of millions of personal computers all over the world.
 
 The massive computing power of the combined PC's world over, broke the 
pentabyte barrier. It made the world's most powerful super-Computer look like a bullock-
cart in comparison of speed.!!
 
 The combined marketing base of the ordinary class, even if priced cheaper would be 
far greater that what the elitist snobs could generate.
 
 It makes no sense from the marketing point of view. The elitist snobs could be 
given special elite courses and that cash-cow could be maintained side by side.??
 


As I already said:


 
 
 sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 14:15:51 -
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?
 
 
 Nope. MMY's stated goal is to appeal to elitist snobs because they run the world. 
Leaving aside questions about whether or not TM will be of value to them (and thereby of 
greater value to the rest of the world because the rich and elite are getting something out 
of their TM practice), the decision to charge lots of money for TM practice to appeal 
directly to the elite is perfectly valid and sane.
 
 I mean, do you think your average CEO surfs the net to find minet and learns to 
meditate from a website, as an extreme opposite-end example? Even if they did, do you 
think that the CEO of IBM would instruct his employees to go to the same website, or 
would he hire expensive consultants to teach in-house? Keep in mind that he has to justify 
ANY expense by documenting it to the board of directors. Where's the 30 year's research 
on the minet technique documented? Can you PROVE to the accountant's satisfaction that 
the minet site instructions have the same effect as TM? Can he prove that setting aside 20 
minutes 
 twice-a-day to practice minet meditation is justifiable? He MAY be able to do it with TM, 
but not with the website technique, regardless of whether or not there is a measureable 
difference between them. No-one is going to sponsor the measurements in the first place 
so the assertion can never be proven to the accountants' satisfaction.
 
 Jacking the price of TM up may be a horrible mistake, but it certainly makes sense from 
a marketing point of view.
 
 
 Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote:
 
  In a Pure Capitalist economy, things are dictated purely by 'Demand and Supply'. 
In a competitive field where there are 40,000 TM teachers and other Spiritual cults,
  
  Is it wise for the TM-org to fix such high, exorbitant price for TM..??
  
  I think, Somebody is misguiding Maharishi.??
 
 
 
   
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[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?] Maharishi, Cosmic Fry Cook

2006-05-18 Thread jim_flanegin



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On May 18, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Peter wrote:
 
 
  --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   On May 18, 2006, at 2:50 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
   markmeredith2002
markmeredith@ wrote:

 I guess it's possible people can get fried being
   close to certain
 highly evolved people, but my experience in
   recent yrs is that
 being around high shakti produces the opposite
   of fried, crazy,
 rigid, immature and unevolved.
   
Exactly the opposite. Greater clarity and
   flexibility.
  
   And spontaneous resolution of many patterns. It's
   not unusual to go
   into a state of Unity when in their presence. It's
   called entering
   the mandala of the teacher and is unmistakable.
  
   Long standing questions can simply resolve on their
   own. No matter
   how you search your mind the tension that was the
   question will
   have dissolved and you will have the answer as part
   of your natural
   state.
 
  I've had both experiences around SSRS. Years ago when
  I first experienced him giving personal darshan my
  body had a difficult time being around him as would
  radiate this powerful darshan that would make me get
  terrible headaches. Now it's smooth as silk even when
  he's radiating like a supernova. Just some
  purification of some subtle bodies needed!
 
 
 I've had similar experiences as what you're describing, but that 
 seemed to be shakti and therefore relative. In what I was 
describing 
 there was no overtly energetic component or shakti, just a shift 
and 
 tensions in awareness relaxed like dew disappearing in the 
presence 
 of the sun. It's only when you shifted in your awareness that you 
 realized. In some cases one can comprehend an entire teaching in 
this 
 way with no intervening process--the knowledge was always 
already 
 present in the natural (non-dual) state which is our true 
condition: 
 the tension of the unresolved question is simply gone.

I think you posted an SSRS video clip on your website not long ago, 
and he was talking about a river which flows for thousands of years, 
without getting tired, and the sun which keeps on shining for years 
and years, without getting tired.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?

2006-05-18 Thread jim_flanegin



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ 
wrote:
 
  
  Maharishi always said, I am WholeSaler of 
Consciousness.!!. This is what my 
 initator Quoted him saying that decades ago.!!
  
  Why all of a sudden change the tune.?? and cater to 
elitist snobs.??
  
  Heart of the SETI project.? Carl Sagan's search for 
extraterrestrials program. They 
 decided to use the computing power of millions of personal 
computers all over the world.
  
  The massive computing power of the combined PC's world 
over, broke the 
 pentabyte barrier. It made the world's most powerful super-
Computer look like a bullock-
 cart in comparison of speed.!!
  
  The combined marketing base of the ordinary class, even if 
priced cheaper would be 
 far greater that what the elitist snobs could generate.
  
  It makes no sense from the marketing point of view. The 
elitist snobs could be 
 given special elite courses and that cash-cow could be maintained 
side by side.??
  
 
 
 As I already said:
 
 
  
  
  sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
  Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 14:15:51 -
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello, I am new here - a fw q's..?
  
  
  Nope. MMY's stated goal is to appeal to elitist snobs because 
they run the world. 
snip

and the cool thing is, they don't even have to start TM...

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall. 
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. 
All the king's horses and all the king's men 
Couldn't put Humpty together again. 










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Diesels running on waste vegetable oil

2006-05-18 Thread bob_brigante



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 I've been researching the whole phenomenon of 
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 Seeing as how Fairfield used to have more than 
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 I figured I should do a little networking here, as 
 well as in forums dedicated to that topic. Anyone 
 here doing it? Know anybody who is?
 
 Thanks.




Lonnie Gamble probably knows some people doing that:

http://www.abundance-ecovillage.com/events.html











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[FairfieldLife] William McCorkel

2006-05-18 Thread bob_brigante



I think I recognize this guy from Fairfield:

http://www.ameradream.com/offline_williammccorkel.htm

anybody know him?









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 I don't understand it either, esp. since all the other Beatles 
went 
 through divorces and, as far as I know, nobody lost their shirts. 
Did 
 they all have prenups? Doubtful, since at least John and Ringo 
got 
 married before they became famous.






The one that lost his shirt was Julian Lennon, son of John from 
Cynthia, John's first wife.

On John's death, all his fortune went into trust with Yoko as sole 
trustee with sole discretionary powers. As I understand it, 50% of 
the trust was for Julian. Over the next 15 years or so (from 
about '80 to '95) Yoko never gave Julian one red cent. So, finally, 
he sued her (which, apparently, is VERY hard to do with a trustee 
with full discretionary powers) and got only $10 million (the 
fortune has been estimated to be worth as much as $400 million).

Fortunately, Julian had talent of his own and made his own fortune 
in addition to the $10 million.







 
 Sal
 
 
 On May 18, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote:
 
  But I don't quite understand the buzz about how much
  money he's going to lose.  Is she suing him?  They've
  said the separation is amicable.  Why does everybody
  assume she's going to take him for as much as she can
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 5/18/06 2:36:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Apparently she offered to sign one, and he said no.
 
 But I don't quite understand the buzz about how much
 money he's going to lose. Is she suing him? They've
 said the separation is amicable. Why does everybody
 assume she's going to take him for as much as she can
 get?
 
 On the other hand, he's rolling in dough. Even if she
 took half, he'd still be fabulously wealthy.
 
 
 
 Judy I was just going by the headline on AOL as I signed on. It's 
just a 
 possibility. It doesn't look like there will be a big battle for 
loot at this t
 ime.



Maybe she'll do what Mia Farrow did when Frank Sinatra divorced her. 
She said: Frank, I don't want a cent...and she stuck to it.

Years later, when Mia was having alot of financial problems after 
the whole Woody Allen thing and she was no longer in his movies, and 
had those 27 kids with handicaps etc., without any asking from Mia, 
Frank apparently sent her a whole wad of money to help her out.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  
   
   In a message dated 5/18/06 2:36:57 P.M. Central Daylight 
Time, 
   jstein@ writes:
   
   Apparently she offered to sign one, and he said no.
   
   But I don't quite understand the buzz about how much
   money he's going to lose. Is she suing him? They've
   said the separation is amicable. Why does everybody
   assume she's going to take him for as much as she can
   get?
   
   On the other hand, he's rolling in dough. Even if she
   took half, he'd still be fabulously wealthy.
   
   Judy I was just going by the headline on AOL as I signed on. 
It's 
   just a possibility. It doesn't look like there will be a big 
battle 
   for loot at this time.
  
  I hope not. But I've run into the notion that
  she's going to take the money and run a whole
  bunch of times now. I was wondering if there was
  some *law* in the UK that she had to get a
  particular amount if there wasn't a prenup. I
  don't think there is in the U.S.
 
 
 State by state variation. In arizona, its 50% of everything, 
period, IIRC.



You remember IIRC-INCORRECTLY.

It's 50% in Arizona from what is earned DURING the marriage...and 
that excludes gifts and inheritances received by a spouse DURING the 
marriage, too.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sad.

2006-05-18 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 In a message dated 5/18/06 3:16:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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 I hope not. But I've run into the notion that
 she's going to take the money and run a whole
 bunch of times now. I was wondering if there was
 some *law* in the UK that she had to get a
 particular amount if there wasn't a prenup. I
 don't think there is in the U.S.
 
 
 
 
 Well don't be surprised if she does try a money grab. I bet there 
are a lot 
 of lawyers wanting to tell her what they can do for her right now.


I'll bet she'll do something like this: take about $10-20 million 
for herself with about $100-200 million going into a charity of her 
choice with the agreement that she controls it (for things like 
landmines and protecting any animals that had the fortune to be born 
cute and cuddly...no rats or snakes need apply!)











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Diesels running on waste vegetable oil

2006-05-18 Thread shempmcgurk



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I've been researching the whole phenomenon of 
 fueling a diesel vehicle on waste vegetable oil. 
 Seeing as how Fairfield used to have more than 
 its share of innovators and alternative lifestylers, 
 I figured I should do a little networking here, as 
 well as in forums dedicated to that topic. Anyone 
 here doing it? Know anybody who is?
 
 Thanks.



Apparently Darryl Hannah does.









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