[FairfieldLife] Re: Kiran Ahluwalia Tinariwen Mustt Mustt
Nabs, That was great. It sounded like Gandharva music with a modern beat. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: For the lovers of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U4hxfr5MZI
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was wrong
--- turquoiseb wrote: The French obviously like lesbians better than they like incomprehensibly hallucinogenic movies about violence (Only God Forgives). It probably is a good film, but I'd also suspect that the timing, coinciding with France *finally* legalizing same-sex marriage, may have had something to do with the decision: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/26/blue-is-the-warmest-color-canne\ s-palme-dor-award_n_3340001.html But, did she steal the show? [http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/24/article-2330055-19F737170\ 5DC-616_634x482.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] My morning soundtrack
I woke up this morning with this song in my head, lingering after serving as the soundtrack to a quite pleasant dream. It's still there, serving as a sound- track to my breakfast in a favorite cafe and my journey to work. Fitting, I guess, because the lyrics are nothing more -- nor less -- than the names of stations on the Paris Metro. But sometimes the words don't really convey the whole song, as David Crosby and Graham Nash demonstrate so well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1jo1gI0kJI
[FairfieldLife] OT Windoze phone with a 41 MP Pureview sensor??
http://www.mouthshut.com/blog/daiipnopom/Now-a-lumia-with-a-41-MP-camera-yes-its-coming
[FairfieldLife] Transcendental Meditation Creativity
* Film Student Chelsea Richer on Creativity and Meditation ** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2X8DY5fWBw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
As Xeno says so often in different ways, you already *are* your enlightenment. The only trick is realizing it. That is about as profound as saying we are all billionaires. The only trick is remembering the bank account number. It is a feel good phrase for those like you who are very far from the goal. So, they decide, hey, there's no work to do, I am already enlightened, along with everyone else! Mood making. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I recall that Maharishi once said that TM'ers (both practitioners and teachers) shouldn't be looking at other paths because it looked like you were still seeking an answer and had not found it in TM. IOW, bad PR. It's not unusual in India if a certain path or teacher doesn't work out that you move on to something else. Of course westerners were noobs at all this yoga stuff and didn't know that. To me it is interesting that here on FFL there are still after all these years a lot of seekers and a few finders whether the latter feel they've found it through TM or some other path. Which are you? Neither. I feel that seeking is a way of saying that one is trying to bend the universe to your will and make it supply something limited to your feeble expectations. Fortunately, the universe rarely complies. How sad if it did, and people got stuck with their limited *ideas* of what enlightenment is. I suspect that the majority of people who claim to have found are in that situation, having settled for their own precon- ceptions, and thus their limitations. You were a seeker for many years and, based on what you have written here over the years, had some amazing times, learned some valuable concepts, had some fine and also odd experiences, and then arrived at a point at which you no longer seek. I assume this is a good thing for you. I assume this, too. :-) Being a seeker was part of the process. Absolutely. Learning to read by sounding out each of the phonemes is a step in one's ability to learn to read. But once one has gotten the basics down, there is no need for them. Lately I've been learning to read in two more languages, and that's interesting, too. At first you have to go back to the phoneme bit, and then progress onto translating in your head as you read. but finally it all kinda sinks in, and you stop the process of inner translation and just think in the new language. I would liken this process to what I've done along the spiritual path. Lately I feel a bit jaded or perhaps been there done that when it comes to spiritual paths and seeking. I look back fondly, and even with nostalgia, at the years I spent so excited about evolution, the way the universe seemed ordered, that there were answers to questions about humans and the cosmos and the mind and experiences. There was a sense that life was always progressing in some planned manner. I still have that sense, without the last four words. :-) That, for me, brought a sense of knowingness and especially security. For me, dropping the last four words brings even more of a sense of security. I am not after answers, only the pathless path itself. And to its credit, it keeps unfolding. And it was fun! Still is, for me. Devotion and new spiritual values feel terrific for a while. Mostly it is a function of youth, I think. Novelty, too. But seeking - wanting to know more or to recapture some expansive experience -gets that whole thing started, and I think that is a good thing for many (I know the TB types are upsetting). I think wanting to know more is a good thing. I think believing that one knows enough is a trap. I have seen a few other saints - and been impressed by them (Adyashanti) but find I have no sense of urgency about being with them. And no expectations. I just enjoy being in their presence, hearing their words from time to time, and of course end up mentally measuring them against my own set of Maharishi-inspired concepts. Can't really help that, and since I am not a TM fundie, I think MMY's teachings serve me well. Go with whatever works for you. I look forward to the day those concepts support letting them go and just being. Meanwhile, I would stand in line for a while to get someone to enlighten me about my enlightenment!! Know anyone? I know hundreds. And any of them would be *happy* to enlighten you about your enlightenment. Some would charge you for the service, and some would provide it for free, and none of them would know what they were talking about. As Xeno says so often in
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]
Doc, that Planter's jingle comment makes me smile each time I read it, thanks. Here's a question: if the ego has expanded to cosmic level, which is what Maharishi explained, then what does it mean to be egocentric?! Anyway, I dug up that Michael Goodman quote about Brahman and also something more recent from Buck in the Dome. PS I like your analogy about being a billionaire but think that the whole idea that everyone is enlightened points to Maharishi's teaching that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. Meaning that from one perspective I'm sure everyone is already enlightened. And from another, not so much. A practical person entertains both ideas (-: Like the Absolute IS, Brahman is NOT. Brahman is not the Absolute. Brahman is not the relative. Brahman is not both of them together. Brahman is not neither of them. Brahman is The Knower. The Unified Field has made the senses turn outwards, Humans therefore look outwards, Not in to themselves, But occasionally a daring soul, Desiring un- boundedness, Has looked back And found Itself. -The Upanishads From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01] I think there is a stage of enlightenment wherein one realizes that one is indeed the small self and the Big Self at the same time. Hi Share, How is one both, at the same time, AND enlightened? Is it like the Planter's jingle, Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't!?? Seriously, I can accept that identification with the small self can occasionally be transcended, so that the seeker momentarily experiences a larger unbounded sense of self, the Big Self. But it is plainly impossible to carry both identities, being egocentric in one moment, and feeling universally expansive in another, and consider that poorly integrated state, Enlightenment. More like ignorance, with a few flashes of insight. Ask your heart. You know where its allegiance lies. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Doc, but I'm can't agree with you. I think there is a stage of enlightenment wherein one realizes that one is indeed the small self and the Big Self at the same time. OTOH, it's simply fun to talk about all this. I'm happy for people who are enlightened and sometimes I like them. I'm happy for enlightened teachers and sometimes I want to learn from them. And sometimes life wants me to learn from enlightened people and enlightened teachers whether I want to or not! What to do? (-: BTW, nnoozguru, I watched Kumare last night. Turns out our public library has had it all along! But they had it in non fiction! Anyway, VERY cool movie. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 6:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]  Hi Share, Barry said something in his reply to you that is pretty confused, and I wanted to clear it up. He states that he has, had long flashes or periods of enlightenment. Wow, what a mess. Just so you know, he is talking about what I call dirty witnessing. There is a temporary conditioning of the mind that can be triggered by extra meditation, fasting, etc. where one gets the feeling of being outside of oneself. This is absolutely NOT enlightenment, and never has been. Although some silence may be there, and the physiology mimics a state of silence, the shift in identity has not occurred, the enlightened realization that, I am not the small self, has not occurred. So Barry, contrary to his confusion has not experienced enlightenment, ever. There are other examples of his confusion when he talks about it, but this one is enough for now, to clearly illustrate the reality. The only way he views enlightenment is as some sort of counter to his identity - he is afraid of it, but doesn't have a clue what it is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq, I often encounter devoted and long term TMers who even currently enjoy spending time with their children and grandchildren. As regards living for enlightenment, many of the sidhas I know are living for the sake of living itself, the richness of it, just riding those waves of life. Yes, they engage in a particular activity to develop themselves more, but isn't that part of being human? Only for those who believe that life is not fulfilled in every moment, and that there is something more to achieve. For example, don't you
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
I wish she would sit at home, knitting sweaters. I have only known two people who were associated with Amma. I suppose someone could chalk it up to coincidence, but one derailed his career for her, and the other jumped to his death off the Golden Gate bridge. So, I am kind of thumbs down on the whole Amma scene. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: This is not going to be good for Fairfield Dome Badges or the Dome numbers. -Buck in the Dome Someone sent me this... FW: [paste] As you all know by now, Amma is coming to Cedar Rapids Iowa for 2 days of programs on June 25th and 26th. For those of us who have met Amma before this is a very special and much anticipated event where we, once again, can experience Her unconditional love and inspiration. We also know how wonderful it is to share Amma with our friends and neighbors. Millions of people from all walks of life, from every religion, and from every continent have enjoyed meeting with Amma. Please share this invitation to meet with Amma with all of your friends. Attached is a pdf poster that you may forward to your friends etc. Complete information about the Cedar Rapids event is available at www.amma.org/tours. Please note that the main hotel (Double Tree) is now full but there are hotels near by with rooms available at the AMMA rate (book by June 3rd). Information about Amma and her many charitable activities, along with information about her other events in North America this summer can also be found at www.amma.org [end paste]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
Doc, I'm sorry about what happened to your friends. But really?! Did you read the article about Amma that Rick posted recently? Her organizations have really helped thousands of people. Maybe that could have been accomplished if she had sat at home knitting sweaters. We'll never know. All we do know is that she didn't and her organizations have helped thousands of people. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa I wish she would sit at home, knitting sweaters. I have only known two people who were associated with Amma. I suppose someone could chalk it up to coincidence, but one derailed his career for her, and the other jumped to his death off the Golden Gate bridge. So, I am kind of thumbs down on the whole Amma scene. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: This is not going to be good for Fairfield Dome Badges or the Dome numbers. -Buck in the Dome Someone sent me this... FW: [paste] As you all know by now, Amma is coming to Cedar Rapids Iowa for 2 days of programs on June 25th and 26th. For those of us who have met Amma before this is a very special and much anticipated event where we, once again, can experience Her unconditional love and inspiration. We also know how wonderful it is to share Amma with our friends and neighbors. Millions of people from all walks of life, from every religion, and from every continent have enjoyed meeting with Amma. Please share this invitation to meet with Amma with all of your friends. Attached is a pdf poster that you may forward to your friends etc. Complete information about the Cedar Rapids event is available at www.amma.org/tours. Please note that the main hotel (Double Tree) is now full but there are hotels near by with rooms available at the AMMA rate (book by June 3rd). Information about Amma and her many charitable activities, along with information about her other events in North America this summer can also be found at www.amma.org [end paste]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Liberace's Jyotish Chart
I suppose there is something to what you say but my own mother was one that knew what was up and I suspect many more did. His flamboyance gave him away and most just didn't care. I think most people in that generation *knew* but out of consideration and politeness for his talent just didn't talk about it. Being *out* was not fashionable then. Today it's looked on as a sign of liberation and self acceptance. There were others as well. Paul Lynde, my favorite Hollywood square and of course Rock Hudson come to mind. Anybody that read the gossip columns *knew* but just let it slide. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 6:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Liberace's Jyotish Chart --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Oh Geez Judy, not Liberace, the idea that he was hiding anything? Remember who his primary audience was, middle-aged and elderly ladies. To them, he was a sex symbol. They'd have been scandalized and horrified if they'd known he was gay. This was in the '70s and '80s, well before homosexuality had become acceptable, or even recognizable, to the general public. He'd have had to wear dresses and high heels before the ladies suspected anything. Showbiz folks and other insider-types, journalists and so on, knew or strongly suspected. But he had a habit of suing publications that suggested he was gay (and he won). He also fed rumors to the gossip columns about being involved with various women, including Sonja Heine, the ice skater. Betty White was a good personal friend. She did a TV interview not long ago in which she said she would accompany him to various events as a favor, to make it appear that he dated women. And when he died, his physician listed the cause of death as heart trouble. The county board of health refused to accept this and insisted the truth be entered on his death certificate, that he had died of AIDS-related pneumonia. At the time, this was big news. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Liberace's Jyotish Chart  --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: He had to keep it hidden? Oh please, LOL. Excuse me?? It's not funny at all. What's your problem? From: authfriend authfriend@ To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Liberace's Jyotish Chart  --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: He was born under the sign of Sagittarius and the Moon was in the nakshatra of Jyestha. Rahu and the Moon were in debilitation in Scorpio and placed in the 12th house which made him gay. But he never revealed publicly that he was one. I'm wondering whether that debilitation made him gay in a lifetime in which he had to keep it hidden.
[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, that Planter's jingle comment makes me smile each time I read it, thanks. **Yeah, me too! I have endless storage in my mind, devoted to such things.:-) Here's a question: if the ego has expanded to cosmic level, which is what Maharishi explained, then what does it mean to be egocentric?! **Yes, I thought the same thing, in terms of the language I used, when I wrote that. Damn, you caught it! lol I was using 'egocentric' as a shorthand for the identification with the small self. A sense of self, or ego, must exist. Nothing wrong with Cosmic Ego. The difference comes with which ego we are identifying with, the small, egocentric one, or the Cosmic Ego, unbounded and universal. Remember MMY's talk on Identification, that when we gaze into a flower, we get lost in the flower, losing our identity in the flower? It is like that. There is no way to get *lost* in the identification of the small self, and still retain the awareness of Cosmic Ego. The two cannot co-exist. Anyway, I dug up that Michael Goodman quote about Brahman and also something more recent from Buck in the Dome. PS I like your analogy about being a billionaire but think that the whole idea that everyone is enlightened points to Maharishi's teaching that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. Meaning that from one perspective I'm sure everyone is already enlightened. And from another, not so much. A practical person entertains both ideas (-: **On the one hand, this statement that we are all enlightened, is true, in terms of everyone's potential. However, the way in which it is commonly used, is as a fiction. It is as if I handed you an avocado, and charged you $100,000 - $2 for the avocado, and $99,998 for the full-sized tree, residing latent in its seed. So as a Rah, Rah, feel-good statement, yeah, we are all enlightened. As a practicality, the tree is still within the avocado, so it only costs two bucks. Like the Absolute IS, Brahman is NOT. Brahman is not the Absolute. Brahman is not the relative. Brahman is not both of them together. Brahman is not neither of them. Brahman is The Knower. The Unified Field has made the senses turn outwards, Humans therefore look outwards, Not in to themselves, But occasionally a daring soul, Desiring un- boundedness, Has looked back And found Itself. -The Upanishads From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]  I think there is a stage of enlightenment wherein one realizes that one is indeed the small self and the Big Self at the same time. Hi Share, How is one both, at the same time, AND enlightened? Is it like the Planter's jingle, Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't!?? Seriously, I can accept that identification with the small self can occasionally be transcended, so that the seeker momentarily experiences a larger unbounded sense of self, the Big Self. But it is plainly impossible to carry both identities, being egocentric in one moment, and feeling universally expansive in another, and consider that poorly integrated state, Enlightenment. More like ignorance, with a few flashes of insight. Ask your heart. You know where its allegiance lies. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks, Doc, but I'm can't agree with you.àI think there is a stage of enlightenment wherein one realizes that one is indeed the small self and the Big Self at the same time.àOTOH, it's simply fun to talk about all this.àI'm happy for people who are enlightened and sometimes I like them.àI'm happy for enlightened teachers and sometimes I want to learn from them.àAnd sometimes life wants me to learn from enlightened people and enlightened teachers whether I want to or not!àWhat to do?à(-: BTW, nnoozguru, I watched Kumare last night.àTurns out our public library has had it all along!àBut they had it in non fiction!àAnyway, VERY cool movie.àFrom: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 6:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01] àHi Share, Barry said something in his reply to you that is pretty confused, and I wanted to clear it up. He states that he has, had long flashes or periods of enlightenment. Wow, what a mess. Just so you know, he is talking about what I call dirty witnessing. There is a temporary conditioning of the mind that can be triggered by extra
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
Sweaters, please. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, I'm sorry about what happened to your friends. But really?! Did you read the article about Amma that Rick posted recently? Her organizations have really helped thousands of people. Maybe that could have been accomplished if she had sat at home knitting sweaters. We'll never know. All we do know is that she didn't and her organizations have helped thousands of people. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa  I wish she would sit at home, knitting sweaters. I have only known two people who were associated with Amma. I suppose someone could chalk it up to coincidence, but one derailed his career for her, and the other jumped to his death off the Golden Gate bridge. So, I am kind of thumbs down on the whole Amma scene. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: This is not going to be good for Fairfield Dome Badges or the Dome numbers. -Buck in the Dome Someone sent me this... FW: [paste] As you all know by now, Amma is coming to Cedar Rapids Iowa for 2 days of programs on June 25th and 26th. For those of us who have met Amma before this is a very special and much anticipated event where we, once again, can experience Her unconditional love and inspiration. We also know how wonderful it is to share Amma with our friends and neighbors. Millions of people from all walks of life, from every religion, and from every continent have enjoyed meeting with Amma. Please share this invitation to meet with Amma with all of your friends. Attached is a pdf poster that you may forward to your friends etc. Complete information about the Cedar Rapids event is available at www.amma.org/tours. Please note that the main hotel (Double Tree) is now full but there are hotels near by with rooms available at the AMMA rate (book by June 3rd). Information about Amma and her many charitable activities, along with information about her other events in North America this summer can also be found at www.amma.org [end paste]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
Let me know when a dead saint comes to Iowa. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 5:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa Sweaters, please. :-) --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, I'm sorry about what happened to your friends. But really?! Did you read the article about Amma that Rick posted recently? Her organizations have really helped thousands of people. Maybe that could have been accomplished if she had sat at home knitting sweaters. We'll never know. All we do know is that she didn't and her organizations have helped thousands of people. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa  I wish she would sit at home, knitting sweaters. I have only known two people who were associated with Amma. I suppose someone could chalk it up to coincidence, but one derailed his career for her, and the other jumped to his death off the Golden Gate bridge. So, I am kind of thumbs down on the whole Amma scene. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: This is not going to be good for Fairfield Dome Badges or the Dome numbers. -Buck in the Dome Someone sent me this... FW: [paste] As you all know by now, Amma is coming to Cedar Rapids Iowa for 2 days of programs on June 25th and 26th. For those of us who have met Amma before this is a very special and much anticipated event where we, once again, can experience Her unconditional love and inspiration. We also know how wonderful it is to share Amma with our friends and neighbors. Millions of people from all walks of life, from every religion, and from every continent have enjoyed meeting with Amma. Please share this invitation to meet with Amma with all of your friends. Attached is a pdf poster that you may forward to your friends etc. Complete information about the Cedar Rapids event is available at www.amma.org/tours. Please note that the main hotel (Double Tree) is now full but there are hotels near by with rooms available at the AMMA rate (book by June 3rd). Information about Amma and her many charitable activities, along with information about her other events in North America this summer can also be found at www.amma.org [end paste]
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
This might be a diplomatic solution, between sweaters, and dead saints, for Iowa, and it increases the options, multi-fold. Here, from wikipedia, is a list of deceased Archdeacons of *Cardigan* (a post in the diocese of St David's, Wales): 1563 Peregrine Davids 1569-1584 Lewis Gwynn[4] 15921629 Richard Middleton 1629-1654 Thomas Brand[5] 16601668 Edward Vaughan [6] 1668?1680 William Owen (died 1680) 1681 John Williams [6] 1701-1714 John Shore [6] 1714-1721 Owen Evans [6] 1721-1727 John Parry [6] 1727-1739 Edward Welchman 1739-1769 Edward Yardley[7][8] (died 1769) 1770-1798 Thomas Vincent [6] 1798-1814 John Williams [6] 1814-1833 Thomas Beynon[9] 1833-?1858 John Williams[10] (died 1858) 1859-?1860 John Hughes[11] (died 1860) 1860-?1893 William North (died 1893) [12] 18931903 J. Harvard Protheroe[13] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Let me know when a dead saint comes to Iowa. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 5:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa  Sweaters, please. :-) --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, I'm sorry about what happened to your friends.àBut really?!àDid you read the article about Amma that Rick posted recently?àHer organizations have really helped thousands of people.àMaybe that could have been accomplished if she had sat at home knitting sweaters.àWe'll never know.àAll we do know is that she didn't and her organizations have helped thousands of people. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa àI wish she would sit at home, knitting sweaters. I have only known two people who were associated with Amma. I suppose someone could chalk it up to coincidence, but one derailed his career for her, and the other jumped to his death off the Golden Gate bridge. So, I am kind of thumbs down on the whole Amma scene. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: This is not going to be good for Fairfield Dome Badges or the Dome numbers. -Buck in the Dome Someone sent me this... FW: [paste] As you all know by now, Amma is coming to Cedar Rapids Iowa for 2 days of programs on June 25th and 26th. For those of us who have met Amma before this is a very special and much anticipated event where we, once again, can experience Her unconditional love and inspiration. We also know how wonderful it is to share Amma with our friends and neighbors. Millions of people from all walks of life, from every religion, and from every continent have enjoyed meeting with Amma. Please share this invitation to meet with Amma with all of your friends. Attached is a pdf poster that you may forward to your friends etc. Complete information about the Cedar Rapids event is available at www.amma.org/tours. Please note that the main hotel (Double Tree) is now full but there are hotels near by with rooms available at the AMMA rate (book by June 3rd). Information about Amma and her many charitable activities, along with information about her other events in North America this summer can also be found at www.amma.org [end paste]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
I remember the first time I went to the Vatican and saw Pope's bones. Reminded me of some kind of Southern dish, Pope's bones and Chitterlings with a sie of mustard greens and corn bread. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 5:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa This might be a diplomatic solution, between sweaters, and dead saints, for Iowa, and it increases the options, multi-fold. Here, from wikipedia, is a list of deceased Archdeacons of *Cardigan* (a post in the diocese of St David's, Wales): 1563 Peregrine Davids 1569-1584 Lewis Gwynn[4] 1592–1629 Richard Middleton 1629-1654 Thomas Brand[5] 1660–1668 Edward Vaughan [6] 1668–?1680 William Owen (died 1680) 1681 John Williams [6] 1701-1714 John Shore [6] 1714-1721 Owen Evans [6] 1721-1727 John Parry [6] 1727-1739 Edward Welchman 1739-1769 Edward Yardley[7][8] (died 1769) 1770-1798 Thomas Vincent [6] 1798-1814 John Williams [6] 1814-1833 Thomas Beynon[9] 1833-?1858 John Williams[10] (died 1858) 1859-?1860 John Hughes[11] (died 1860) 1860-?1893 William North (died 1893) [12] 1893–1903 J. Harvard Protheroe[13] --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Let me know when a dead saint comes to Iowa. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 5:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa  Sweaters, please. :-) --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, I'm sorry about what happened to your friends. But really?! Did you read the article about Amma that Rick posted recently? Her organizations have really helped thousands of people. Maybe that could have been accomplished if she had sat at home knitting sweaters. We'll never know. All we do know is that she didn't and her organizations have helped thousands of people. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa  I wish she would sit at home, knitting sweaters. I have only known two people who were associated with Amma. I suppose someone could chalk it up to coincidence, but one derailed his career for her, and the other jumped to his death off the Golden Gate bridge. So, I am kind of thumbs down on the whole Amma scene. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: This is not going to be good for Fairfield Dome Badges or the Dome numbers. -Buck in the Dome Someone sent me this... FW: [paste] As you all know by now, Amma is coming to Cedar Rapids Iowa for 2 days of programs on June 25th and 26th. For those of us who have met Amma before this is a very special and much anticipated event where we, once again, can experience Her unconditional love and inspiration. We also know how wonderful it is to share Amma with our friends and neighbors. Millions of people from all walks of life, from every religion, and from every continent have enjoyed meeting with Amma. Please share this invitation to meet with Amma with all of your friends. Attached is a pdf poster that you may forward to your friends etc. Complete information about the Cedar Rapids event is available at www.amma.org/tours. Please note that the main hotel (Double Tree) is now full but there are hotels near by with rooms available at the AMMA rate (book by June 3rd). Information about Amma and her many charitable activities, along with information about her other events in North America this summer can also be found at www.amma.org [end paste]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arctic melting? Don't worry Avatars will save the world.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Arctic temperatures are rising fast than expected: http://arctic-news.blogspot.nl/2013/03/huge-patches-of-warm-air-over-the-arctic.html These climate changes and what will happen to earth and people is my major non-people related worry in life and I am trying to just not think about it any more. It really is the fundamental, root issue for all of us - other than enlightenment, for some. Is there any genuine good news about this or scientists who think we can actually save things? Folks, listen up: humanity will be gone, gone destroyed. It will be ugly and is happening way faster than even the pessimists expected back in the early 2000's. We are in serious trouble here and have no where to escape. In a decade things are going to be a mess - we won't be here for the end days, but will witness some ugliness and fear coming very soon. As I say, I make an effort to avoid reading about it anymore - way too depressing. I just spent a weekend at a huge and famous garden (Longwood Gardens) while visiting mother in Pennsylvania. I got there early when the doors opened, and soaked up the quiet and green smells. The wind was blowing in the tops of huge trees and the sounds were amazing. I was all green and growing and thriving. Consciousness seemed conscious everywhere there. If I were retired, I would spend more time outside, away from big cities (which I also love). I don't want all this to be ruined. So, Bhairitu, send me some good news on this topic if you come across it. Humanity needs to focus on this pronto and make it our primary cause and support people working to save the earth. Scientists are my superheroes. If you really are that worried why not do something about it ? Take the train instead of driving around is a good start.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arctic melting? Don't worry Avatars will save the world.
Sadly, we don't have a very efficient passenger train system in the US, unlike much of Europe. The choice is either to fly, or drive. There is a high speed rail that will probably be built in California, but that will be really only good for long distances. I worked in San Francisco a few times, a commute from my house of 50 miles or so, one way. To take the train, with transfers, parking and walking, would have taken me two hours, each way, to work. Driving, as long as it was early enough to miss rush hour, was 60 minutes, each way. On the other hand, San Francisco is easy to get around in, without a car, if you live there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Arctic temperatures are rising fast than expected: http://arctic-news.blogspot.nl/2013/03/huge-patches-of-warm-air-over-the-arctic.html These climate changes and what will happen to earth and people is my major non-people related worry in life and I am trying to just not think about it any more. It really is the fundamental, root issue for all of us - other than enlightenment, for some. Is there any genuine good news about this or scientists who think we can actually save things? Folks, listen up: humanity will be gone, gone destroyed. It will be ugly and is happening way faster than even the pessimists expected back in the early 2000's. We are in serious trouble here and have no where to escape. In a decade things are going to be a mess - we won't be here for the end days, but will witness some ugliness and fear coming very soon. As I say, I make an effort to avoid reading about it anymore - way too depressing. I just spent a weekend at a huge and famous garden (Longwood Gardens) while visiting mother in Pennsylvania. I got there early when the doors opened, and soaked up the quiet and green smells. The wind was blowing in the tops of huge trees and the sounds were amazing. I was all green and growing and thriving. Consciousness seemed conscious everywhere there. If I were retired, I would spend more time outside, away from big cities (which I also love). I don't want all this to be ruined. So, Bhairitu, send me some good news on this topic if you come across it. Humanity needs to focus on this pronto and make it our primary cause and support people working to save the earth. Scientists are my superheroes. If you really are that worried why not do something about it ? Take the train instead of driving around is a good start.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kiran Ahluwalia Tinariwen Mustt Mustt
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John wrote: Nabs, That was great. It sounded like Gandharva music with a modern beat. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: For the lovers of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U4hxfr5MZI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U4hxfr5MZI Jump to: navigation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufi_music#mw-navigation , search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufi_music#p-search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abida_Parveen_in_concert_at_Oslo.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abida_Parveen_in_concert_at_Oslo.jpg Sufi music singerAbida Parveen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abida_Parveen in concert at Oslo [hide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufi_music# ]Music of India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_India[A Lady Playing the Tanpura, ca. 1735.jpg] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Lady_Playing_the_Tanpura,_ca._1735.\ jpg A Lady Playing the Tanpura, ca. 1735 (Rajasthan) GenresTraditional * Classical http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_classical_music * Carnatic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnatic_music * Hindustani http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindustani_classical_music * Folk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_folk_music * Thumri http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thumri * Dadra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dadra * Ghazal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghazal * Qawwali http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qawwali * Chaiti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaiti * Kajri http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kajri * Sufi Modern * Bhangra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhangra_(music) * Filmi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filmi * Pop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_pop * Rock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_rock * Bangla http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangla_rock * Raga http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raga_rock * Blues http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_blues * Jazz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_in_India * Trance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa_trance Media and performance Music awards * Filmfare Awards http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filmfare_Awards * Punjabi Music Awards http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_Music_Awards * Sangeet Natak Akademi Award http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangeet_Natak_Akademi_Award Music festivals * Chennai Music Season http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madras_Music_Season * Dover Lane music festival http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_Lane_music_festival * Tyagaraja Aradhana http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyagaraja_Aradhana * Cleveland Thyagaraja Aradhana http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Thyagaraja_Aradhana Music media * Sruti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sruti_magazine * The Record Music Magazine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Record_Music_Magazine Nationalistic and patriotic songs National anthem Jana Gana Mana http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jana_Gana_Mana Other Vande Mataram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vande_Mataram Regional music * Andaman and Nicobar Islands http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_the_Andaman_and_Nicobar_Islands * Andhra Pradesh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Andhra_Pradesh * Arunachal Pradesh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Arunachal_Pradesh * Assam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Assam * Bihar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Bihar * Chhattisgarh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Chhattisgarh * Goa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Goa * Gujarat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Gujarat * Haryana http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Haryana * Himachal Pradesh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Himachal_Pradesh * Kashmir, Jammu and Ladakh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Kashmir,_Jammu_and_Ladakh * Jharkhand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Jharkhand * Karnataka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Carnatic_music * Kerala http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Kerala * Madhya Pradesh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Madhya_Pradesh * Maharashtra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Maharashtra * Manipur http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Manipur * Meghalaya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Meghalaya * Mizoram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizo_music * Nagaland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Nagaland * Odisha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Odisha * Punjab http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Punjab * Rajasthan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Rajasthan * Sikkim http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Sikkim * Tamil Nadu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Tamil_Nadu * Ancient http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Tamil_music * Tripura http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Tripura * Uttar Pradesh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Uttar_Pradesh * Uttarakhand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Uttarakhand * West Bengal
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
LOL! Good name for a BBQ joint, Pope's Bones. Ah, The Catacombs! I went there as a kid. Creepy and fascinating. Yeah, relics are really strange and kind of icky. Fingernails and stuff. Along the same lines as thinking rhino horn an aphrodisiac. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: I remember the first time I went to the Vatican and saw Pope's bones. Reminded me of some kind of Southern dish, Pope's bones and Chitterlings with a sie of mustard greens and corn bread. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 5:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa  This might be a diplomatic solution, between sweaters, and dead saints, for Iowa, and it increases the options, multi-fold. Here, from wikipedia, is a list of deceased Archdeacons of *Cardigan* (a post in the diocese of St David's, Wales): 1563 Peregrine Davids 1569-1584 Lewis Gwynn[4] 1592â1629 Richard Middleton 1629-1654 Thomas Brand[5] 1660â1668 Edward Vaughan [6] 1668â?1680 William Owen (died 1680) 1681 John Williams [6] 1701-1714 John Shore [6] 1714-1721 Owen Evans [6] 1721-1727 John Parry [6] 1727-1739 Edward Welchman 1739-1769 Edward Yardley[7][8] (died 1769) 1770-1798 Thomas Vincent [6] 1798-1814 John Williams [6] 1814-1833 Thomas Beynon[9] 1833-?1858 John Williams[10] (died 1858) 1859-?1860 John Hughes[11] (died 1860) 1860-?1893 William North (died 1893) [12] 1893â1903 J. Harvard Protheroe[13] --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: Let me know when a dead saint comes to Iowa. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 5:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa àSweaters, please. :-) --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, I'm sorry about what happened to your friends.ÃâàBut really?!ÃâàDid you read the article about Amma that Rick posted recently?ÃâàHer organizations have really helped thousands of people.ÃâàMaybe that could have been accomplished if she had sat at home knitting sweaters.ÃâàWe'll never know.ÃâàAll we do know is that she didn't and her organizations have helped thousands of people. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa ÃâàI wish she would sit at home, knitting sweaters. I have only known two people who were associated with Amma. I suppose someone could chalk it up to coincidence, but one derailed his career for her, and the other jumped to his death off the Golden Gate bridge. So, I am kind of thumbs down on the whole Amma scene. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: This is not going to be good for Fairfield Dome Badges or the Dome numbers. -Buck in the Dome Someone sent me this... FW: [paste] As you all know by now, Amma is coming to Cedar Rapids Iowa for 2 days of programs on June 25th and 26th. For those of us who have met Amma before this is a very special and much anticipated event where we, once again, can experience Her unconditional love and inspiration. We also know how wonderful it is to share Amma with our friends and neighbors. Millions of people from all walks of life, from every religion, and from every continent have enjoyed meeting with Amma. Please share this invitation to meet with Amma with all of your friends. Attached is a pdf poster that you may forward to your friends etc. Complete information about the Cedar Rapids event is available at www.amma.org/tours. Please note that the main hotel (Double Tree) is now full but there are hotels near by with rooms available at the AMMA rate (book by June 3rd). Information about Amma and her many charitable activities, along with information about her other events in North America this summer can also be found at www.amma.org [end paste]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kiran Ahluwalia Tinariwen Mustt Mustt
Thank you! I discovered Tinariwen, after seeing an exhibit on the Tuaregs, and she is the perfect addition. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: For the lovers of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U4hxfr5MZI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: As Xeno says so often in different ways, you already *are* your enlightenment. The only trick is realizing it. That is about as profound as saying we are all billionaires. The only trick is remembering the bank account number. It is a feel good phrase for those like you who are very far from the goal. So, they decide, hey, there's no work to do, I am already enlightened, along with everyone else! Mood making. I guess it feels comforting for someone like the Turq being too lazy go gain an inch on any spiritual path to say why bother about enlightenment, I'm already enlightened so I contiune my materialistic, shallow, hedonistic lifestyle as before He probably got this nonsense from some Llama fellow :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: LOL! Good name for a BBQ joint, Pope's Bones. Ah, The Catacombs! I went there as a kid. Creepy and fascinating. Yeah, relics are really strange and kind of icky. Fingernails and stuff. Along the same lines as thinking rhino horn an aphrodisiac. To me, MMY's worn out old sandals are in the same vein of icky. I would no more want those sandals than chef Mario Batali's worn out old Crocs. I don't possess the kind of cultural conditioning that would make me value such objects.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: I wish she would sit at home, knitting sweaters. I have only known two people who were associated with Amma. I suppose someone could chalk it up to coincidence, but one derailed his career for her, and the other jumped to his death off the Golden Gate bridge. So, I am kind of thumbs down on the whole Amma scene. I met her in India once because a friend wanted to go there. Got a hug and was invited to sit behind her back to hand her the prasad she gives to the visitors. She's a nice lady, full of vigour and with mystical experiences, but an Avatar like her followers claim ? No way. (Also confirmed by the Master of Benjamin Creme who said there are no female Avatars in incarnation at this time) I felt absolutely nothing special whatsover being close to her, I wasn't even touched in any way. It's nice that she hugs the people and do a lot of charity, but that's about it.
[FairfieldLife] Gluten exorphins and schizophrenia, autism?!
Gluten exorphins are a group of opioid peptides which are formed during digestion of the gluten protein. It has been hypothesized that people with autism and schizophrenia have abnormal leakage from the gut of these compounds, which then pass into the brain and disrupt brain function.[1] This is partly the basis for the gluten-free, casein-free diet. Two clinical studies of autism patients who followed this diet have found no evidence of benefit.[2][3] Another found evidence of benefit.[4] Another study suggested the diet may present a greater risk to brain development.[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten_exorphin - Could those exorphins at least partly explain, why many people crave for junk food like pizza and hamburgers?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bullshit Enlightenment [Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Mental silence is the opposite of relentless internal dialogue. However, without the use of internalizing conceptuality, we would be left to grunt our emotions in a quasi-verbal language. Mentation and language co-inhere in human experience, as does the silence with underlies it. Awareness witnesses both while Consciousness (Chit or Chitta) in all its varieties maintains all these forms of duality - including the super-duality between duality and non-duality Consider abandoning your Awareness. Who needs it? Sound good? Established in Being, Silent Awareness, Pure Consciousness, Unbounded Awareness in the field of boundaries (whatever tag fits an abstract concept) one performs action, thinking, feeling, conceptualizing and going about one's business while identifying with That. I am That (Eternal, Infinite, Silent Awareness) does not identifying with the restless internal dialogue, so characteristic of the noisy bullshit stories one tells one's small s self. Consider Silent Awareness witnessing small self grunting and there you have it, a story free of bullshit. Sound good? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: Doc says, A foundation in PC is a foundation in silence, whereas a foundation in ego, is a foundation in stories. That sounds about right to me. Anything that isn't silence is just another bullshit story about what enlightenment is or is not, whether you call it enlightenment or not. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/344662
[FairfieldLife] Bleeding Love!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dVUZbBPPWU
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: LOL! Good name for a BBQ joint, Pope's Bones. Ah, The Catacombs! I went there as a kid. Creepy and fascinating. Yeah, relics are really strange and kind of icky. Fingernails and stuff. Along the same lines as thinking rhino horn an aphrodisiac. To me, MMY's worn out old sandals are in the same vein of icky. I would no more want those sandals than chef Mario Batali's worn out old Crocs. I don't possess the kind of cultural conditioning that would make me value such objects. The ick factor doesn't seem to matter to folk bidding on Ebay for an image of Jesus on a piece of toast. Stale toast and Maharishi's sandals will go for whatever the market will bare. Mario Batali's crocks may not fetch a good price but aren't his orange shorts simply-to-die-for flaming fabulous?!
[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]
Ego (New Latin - circa 1789 A.D.) is from the Latin word meaning I. By returning to the meaning of the good English word I, most of the b.s. disappears - such as using the English word-article the in front of the word ego. Maharishi's idea of the expansion of the I to cosmic dimensions is not founded upon Shankara's Kevala Advaita but rather upon the teaching of Kashmiri Shaivism. It is this teaching about Shiva's Aham (I) contracting through Anava mala to become the illusioned and powerless individual (anu) and then expanding to realize it's real status as Shiva that is the source of this idea. He received this view from Swami Lakshman Joo and not from SBS. That is why SCI has little to do with Shankara's Advaita. This is likewise true of MMY's Rig Veda bhasya which reads like Kashmiri Shaivism couched in psycho-quantum mechanics. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Here's a question:Â if the ego has expanded to cosmic level, which is what Maharishi explained, then what does it mean to be egocentric?! I was using 'egocentric' as a shorthand for the identification with the small self. A sense of self, or ego, must exist. Nothing wrong with Cosmic Ego. The difference comes with which ego we are identifying with, the small, egocentric one, or the Cosmic Ego, unbounded and universal. Remember MMY's talk on Identification, that when we gaze into a flower, we get lost in the flower, losing our identity in the flower? It is like that. There is no way to get *lost* in the identification of the small self, and still retain the awareness of Cosmic Ego. The two cannot co-exist. **On the one hand, this statement that we are all enlightened, is true, in terms of everyone's potential. However, the way in which it is commonly used, is as a fiction. It is as if I handed you an avocado, and charged you $100,000 - $2 for the avocado, and $99,998 for the full-sized tree, residing latent in its seed. So as a Rah, Rah, feel-good statement, yeah, we are all enlightened. As a practicality, the tree is still within the avocado, so it only costs two bucks.
[FairfieldLife] L.B. has passed.
Real tears here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@... wrote: I partly agree Ann. Hi Carol, I partly agree with what I said also! Nothing is ever as cut and dried as how I presented it. There will always be individual circumstances that make situations very complex and very individual. But basically, I think I believe what I wrote but know that there are exceptions to my points, there would have to be - it is life. The point where I disagree is when power differentials are at play and if the person holding the position of power ab-uses their position of trust to their advantage. This of course happens in other areas besides sexual. I believe certain individuals in positions of power can abuse that privilege of having power. But power is granted to people by others. There is no inherent power that just emerges that automatically makes one revered as a great financier, a world class artist, a wise sage or a sexy rock star. In all cases, these individuals must first present as such and certain people will gravitate to them and in so doing they often give away their own authority or power to these perceived 'greater beings', usually to gain something in return. Sometimes it is in the form of allowing the powerful one to tell you how to live your life. Sometimes it is thinking by somehow adhering oneself to the perceived 'greater human' (either in the form of physical intimacy or simply the intimacy of being as close to them as possible) that one will receive a gift, a blessing, some transfer of that power or it could simply be that it feels good. But I still assert that you have to be willing to give away a certain degree of your autonomy as a human to do this. When you give something away you can also open yourself up to something ultimately unwanted or not counted on. What makes it worse is when any harms that are exacted because of that abuse of trust are then denied or swept under the rug or minimized. For sure, and it is extra hurtful and a sign of the cowardice of the one attempting to hide what they have done. It is doubly despicable in my opinion. My rule: if you're going to do something you know is wrong or you think you may get caught out on then have the gumption to be ready to own up to it. If you've got it in you to violate or trespass against someone then you need to find it within yourself to own it. Yes, the adult-of-reasonable-sound-mind victim of such abuse of trust has to ultimately accept their responsibility for their choices, even those made under undue influence or because of indoctrination. How much is the victim responsible for and how much is the person in power responsible for? Can it even be measured? Measuring may not be useful - bottom line: it happened. Now comes the moment when both sides need to decide what to do with that. The violated needs to think about themselves first, they can not be responsible for the other person/the abuser. The violator needs to look at what would allow them to do what they did and they DO have some responsibility to the violated, to at least, in the most ideal scenario, admit, in some way, their sense of what they did. I think it is a fundamental part of the healing process for the transgressor - to feel vulnerable, wounded, appalled, horrified and to let those feelings be known to the abused. How often this happens is not often enough. But if the abuser is to ever be free from what they did they must feel, somehow and in some way, cut to the core. But often what it is that is within someone capable of great tyranny that is the very thing that disallows this sort of feeling of vulnerability or hurt as a result of having profoundly injured someone emotionally or otherwise. Sociopathy is one word for it. I'm not condoning a victim mentality, but neither do I think victim is a dirty word. (Not saying anyone here thinks that.) I have been a victim (as I think most folks have sometime in their lives) and I have been an abuser. I'm not proud of either. If I can acknowledge both and admit it, I'm healthier for it. And hopefully have learned something in the process. Yes, the fallibility of the human race is legendary. The woundedness of so many could give rise to great beauty and but often it results in smallness and hurt. Victims are those wounded but victim could be another word for hero if one is big and if one is brave. I think you are probably one of those heroes. * --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: These kind of sexual relationships are a bit of a gray area. How much interest you should show in other people's private lives is a matter of debate. As Barry pointed out, 'Groupie with standards', the phenomenon exists in all fields and 'all walks of life'. In business, in sports, in the movie industry and so on.
[FairfieldLife] Brahmatman
brahma satyam jagan mithya jivo brahmaiva na parah brahman is real - the world an appearance- the individual is brahman indeed - not other Vivekachudamani of Shankara Got brahm?
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's enablers, was Moderated by Rick Archer
Michael Jackson: I admire Barry and Curtis and Sal and Edg etc etc because they had the good sense to leave the fold so to speak. Are you serious? One spent 29 years enabling Marshy; another actually ran the D.C. Center like a Nazi for thirteen years; and the other got kicked out of the TMO after ten years, and started enabling Fred Lenz for another seven. It was like they were sellers of 'snake-oil'. LoL! What happened to all the money? I think Richard you are using this as another way to take pot shots at Barry and by extension me and the rest of the people who don't care for TM and TMO-ness. Get real - you came here, and you're both still talking about the comings-and-goings of the TMO - only now you're no longer a fakir-baker, you're just an informant and abuser of the women on the newsgroup. Almost everything you post here is abusive to the TMers who were here long before you butted in. Reality check for MJ: The women are running this list. You aren't dealing with the reality of being part of a movement that you think is and will do some good in the world. You mumbled nonsense syllables with your eyes closed; baked bread for the TMO for two years; tried to fly in a 'golden dome'; but I'm not dealing with reality? Listen to yourself! And, go figure. You are intelligent enough to know better - I think you are just baiting people here for fun. From what I've read, you are now the reigning master-baiter of FFL. LoL! I read with interest the article in today's NY Times about Amma... snip The one good thing about your posts here is at least you aren't yapping about how everything in the Universe comes out from under a Buddhist stupa. You nerd - everything in the universe comes out from under a Buddhist stupa - where do you think it comes from? Out from under the Hindu Mt. Meru? LoL! Are you serious? Barry was MMY's and Rama's biggest enabler. Apparently Barry spent decades putting up posters to lure young students to free lectures and seminars for these shysters. But, you must be really dumb to join a cult led by a giggling Hindu guy with a beard dressed in a bed sheet, and using the word 'transcendental' as the new name for an old snake-oil. All I can say to your dumb fuks is GO FIGURE. LoL! What were you thinking? Go figure. So, let's sum up what we know about your guru, for sure: MMY was a fakir. And, you were a fakir-baker for two years. LoL! These kind of sexual relationships are a bit of a gray area. How much interest you should show in other people's private lives is a matter of debate. As Barry pointed out, 'Groupie with standards', the phenomenon exists in all fields and 'all walks of life'. In business, in sports, in the movie industry and so on. Many young women use these guys as fodder for their growth and move on. These women were adults and they knew what they were doing. They are groupies voluntarily and to pretend that it's an one-sided affair is not accurate. You mistook my intent in saying what I said. Of course there is an element of groupie behavior in women falling onto their backs for people in positions of power or celebrity. That certainly happens. But there is ALSO behavior in which the people IN these positions of power or celebrity ABUSE their positions, and make use of them to get their rocks off with these gullible and stupid women. The TM organization was rife with this kind of abuse of position. In Europe I saw dozens of guys on International Staff who specialized in seducing the course participants, all while claim- ing to be celibate themselves. They would come on to some naive TMer or TM teacher and say things like I know that I should be celibate, but I'm just SO attracted to you. Then they'd fuck them a few times and forget them, and run the same number on someone else the next month, or the next week. When called on this behavior, many of them would claim not to even be able to remember having done the same thing the week or month before. It was *accepted* behavior, and as we all know now, modeled on the mindset of their teacher Maharishi, who did exactly the same thing. There IS such a thing as a power differential in real life. Like the one that bosses have over their secre- taries when they badger them into having sex with them. Like the one that therapists have with their vulnerable patients. Like the one that teachers in schools have with their students. Abuse these levels of trust and responsibility in those organizations and you'll get your ass fired or lose your license or go to prison. But when it happens in spiritual organizations, this same abuse of inherent power differentials and abuse of trust is largely ignored, and thus quietly sanctioned. People see it and then look the other way, to avoid dealing with the cognitive
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmatman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: brahma satyam jagan mithya jivo brahmaiva na parah brahman is real - the world an appearance- the individual is brahman indeed - not other Vivekachudamani of Shankara Got brahm? Everything is Brahman, but some things are more Brahman than others.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmatman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: Everything is Brahman, but some things are more Brahman than others. All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. - George Orwell, Animal Farm
[FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Real tears here. Remembering, L.B. at Revelations Cafe Bookstore, April 2013: http://youtu.be/Us8rF5Q_F6g
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
You missed it, Mike. Last August. Though I'm not sure if Buddha is considered a saint or something else, maybe an avatar. http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20120814/LIFE/308140011/Buddhist-relics-stop-Des-Moines From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa Let me know when a dead saint comes to Iowa. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 5:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa Sweaters, please. :-) --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, I'm sorry about what happened to your friends. But really?! Did you read the article about Amma that Rick posted recently? Her organizations have really helped thousands of people. Maybe that could have been accomplished if she had sat at home knitting sweaters. We'll never know. All we do know is that she didn't and her organizations have helped thousands of people. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa  I wish she would sit at home, knitting sweaters. I have only known two people who were associated with Amma. I suppose someone could chalk it up to coincidence, but one derailed his career for her, and the other jumped to his death off the Golden Gate bridge. So, I am kind of thumbs down on the whole Amma scene. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: This is not going to be good for Fairfield Dome Badges or the Dome numbers. -Buck in the Dome Someone sent me this... FW: [paste] As you all know by now, Amma is coming to Cedar Rapids Iowa for 2 days of programs on June 25th and 26th. For those of us who have met Amma before this is a very special and much anticipated event where we, once again, can experience Her unconditional love and inspiration. We also know how wonderful it is to share Amma with our friends and neighbors. Millions of people from all walks of life, from every religion, and from every continent have enjoyed meeting with Amma. Please share this invitation to meet with Amma with all of your friends. Attached is a pdf poster that you may forward to your friends etc. Complete information about the Cedar Rapids event is available at www.amma.org/tours. Please note that the main hotel (Double Tree) is now full but there are hotels near by with rooms available at the AMMA rate (book by June 3rd). Information about Amma and her many charitable activities, along with information about her other events in North America this summer can also be found at www.amma.org [end paste]
[FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Real tears here. Remembering, L.B. at Revelations Cafe Bookstore, April 2013: http://youtu.be/Us8rF5Q_F6g Rest in peace, dearest L.B. Blessings now and forever. [https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/484709_101516058\ 21776661_1178903895_n.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders [to Barry]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Arguing with Robin was like being suffocated. Arguing with Judy is kind of like vivisection. Arguing with Turq (rare) is like driving into a concrete bunker at 200kph I honestly don't remember us ever arguing. What I remember is that when you first arrived you seemed anxious to engage me in endless back-and-forth, a la Judy, and I was having none of it. I just don't get off on that, that's all. It smacks of ego to me, of having something to prove, or win. I just spout opinions; what other people do with them is their own business. I was new on FFL here, trying to find my way. It was in fact my first time on a forum like this. And I think your analysis here is correct; I recall taking stock after this 'argument' as I characterised it. It shaved off another layer of ego. And thanks for that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmatman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: brahma satyam jagan mithya jivo brahmaiva na parah brahman is real - the world an appearance- the individual is brahman indeed - not other Vivekachudamani of Shankara Got brahm? Everything is Brahman, but some things are more Brahman than others. LOL.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed.
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 9:41 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Duveyoung no_reply@... mailto:no_reply@... wrote: Real tears here. Remembering, L.B. at Revelations Cafe Bookstore, April 2013: http://youtu.be/Us8rF5Q_F6g If the TM movement had a conscience, today would be designated a day of shame and apology. The TMO's ostricisism of LB probably did it more harm than that of the many hundreds of others it has ostracized. His only crimes were honesty and courage. He had the courage to openly discuss issues that, if the TMO had welcomed and participated in the discussion, could have saved it from cultdom and relative obscurity. Instead it chose to slap him with a legal restraining order which banned him from campus for decades. In treating him and many others this way, the TMO has shot itself in the foot so many times that now it can barely walk.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
I think most of his confusion, regarding the context and meaning of spiritual terms, came from Lenz, who from what I can see, made many ridiculous claims for his own consciousness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: As Xeno says so often in different ways, you already *are* your enlightenment. The only trick is realizing it. That is about as profound as saying we are all billionaires. The only trick is remembering the bank account number. It is a feel good phrase for those like you who are very far from the goal. So, they decide, hey, there's no work to do, I am already enlightened, along with everyone else! Mood making. I guess it feels comforting for someone like the Turq being too lazy go gain an inch on any spiritual path to say why bother about enlightenment, I'm already enlightened so I contiune my materialistic, shallow, hedonistic lifestyle as before He probably got this nonsense from some Llama fellow :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Real tears here. Remembering, L.B. at Revelations Cafe Bookstore, April 2013: http://youtu.be/Us8rF5Q_F6g For those (like me) who knew L.B. only from his FFL postings some years ago (or not even from those), this video will give you a good idea of why he was such a force of nature in the Fairfield meditating community--a public intellectual, as he styled himself with some diffidence, of towering integrity, great courage, deep compassion leavened with humor, and profound insight into the TM movement. I hope those who did have the good fortune to know him will post tributes and remembrances.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
Regarding Maharishi's sandals, think of it, Alex, you may be able to smell the faint odor of his foot perspiration on them, even lick one tiny section of the sole, when no one was around, to see what it tastes like. You could even *wear* them around the house, and read the Gita at the same time! Probably even make back the investment by posing people in them, and charging fifty bucks a photo. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: LOL! Good name for a BBQ joint, Pope's Bones. Ah, The Catacombs! I went there as a kid. Creepy and fascinating. Yeah, relics are really strange and kind of icky. Fingernails and stuff. Along the same lines as thinking rhino horn an aphrodisiac. To me, MMY's worn out old sandals are in the same vein of icky. I would no more want those sandals than chef Mario Batali's worn out old Crocs. I don't possess the kind of cultural conditioning that would make me value such objects.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
Probably even make back the investment by posing people in them, and charging fifty bucks a photo. OK, got your feet in? Yeah, they're a little small...here...I know, no, it isn't a bedsheet - its called a 'dhoti'...right, around your shoulders...Yeah, you...you have to wear the wig - just pull it on like a hairnet...Ok, almost done, here is a rose to cradle in your arms...nope, no thorns, its plastic...OK, PERFECT! Turn slightly this way...smile!!! Excellent, that will be $56.34, including tax, Jaigurudev... Next!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Regarding Maharishi's sandals, think of it, Alex, you may be able to smell the faint odor of his foot perspiration on them, even lick one tiny section of the sole, when no one was around, to see what it tastes like. You could even *wear* them around the house, and read the Gita at the same time! Probably even make back the investment by posing people in them, and charging fifty bucks a photo. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: LOL! Good name for a BBQ joint, Pope's Bones. Ah, The Catacombs! I went there as a kid. Creepy and fascinating. Yeah, relics are really strange and kind of icky. Fingernails and stuff. Along the same lines as thinking rhino horn an aphrodisiac. To me, MMY's worn out old sandals are in the same vein of icky. I would no more want those sandals than chef Mario Batali's worn out old Crocs. I don't possess the kind of cultural conditioning that would make me value such objects.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: (snip) (to Xeno) I honestly don't remember us ever arguing. What I remember is that when you first arrived you seemed anxious to engage me in endless back-and-forth, a la Judy, and I was having none of it. For the record, it's been a *very* long time since there was any point in trying to engage Barry in an actual discussion. What's odd is that he still considers any comment a critic of his may make about him as an attempt to start an argument with him. I guess that way he can tell himself he's in some kind of control. It sure hasn't dissuaded his critics from expressing their opinions of him, though. I just don't get off on that, that's all. It smacks of ego to me, of having something to prove, or win. I just spout opinions; what other people do with them is their own business. In fact, years ago, Barry *reveled* in long debates. Somewhere along the line he realized he wasn't all that good at debating and figured he'd be better off adopting the position he outlines above so as not to expose his deficiencies. Also saves him the trouble of having to think through his opinions if he's not going to need to defend them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: I think most of his confusion, regarding the context and meaning of spiritual terms, came from Lenz, who from what I can see, made many ridiculous claims for his own consciousness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: As Xeno says so often in different ways, you already *are* your enlightenment. The only trick is realizing it. That is about as profound as saying we are all billionaires. The only trick is remembering the bank account number. It is a feel good phrase for those like you who are very far from the goal. So, they decide, hey, there's no work to do, I am already enlightened, along with everyone else! The real function of a statement like 'you are already enlightened' is not to discourage, but to spike curiosity as to what it signifies, since obviously if it does not click with you at a certain point in your life, it sounds funny, absurd. Its real purpose is to provide the mind with either a trigger if the time is right to wake up, or to provide the intellect with an understanding after the fact if in fact you do wake up. Then the experience, which could be rather jarring when it blows you out of the water, won't be so disconcerting. You find statements like this in a number of traditions. Some people also do not have a sudden, jarring awakening, they just kind of slide into it. Awakening is a realisation, not a state. Like finding your keys in your pocket after having searched everywhere else for them for hours. Mood making. I guess it feels comforting for someone like the Turq being too lazy go gain an inch on any spiritual path to say why bother about enlightenment, I'm already enlightened so I contiune my materialistic, shallow, hedonistic lifestyle as before He probably got this nonsense from some Llama fellow :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: (snip) The real function of a statement like 'you are already enlightened' is not to discourage, but to spike curiosity as to what it signifies, since obviously if it does not click with you at a certain point in your life, it sounds funny, absurd. Its real purpose is to provide the mind with either a trigger if the time is right to wake up, or to provide the intellect with an understanding after the fact if in fact you do wake up. IMHO, such a statement should be used as a tool only by an experienced teacher who has clear enough insight into a particular student's development to know when it will have the desired effect. Otherwise it's just a pompous platitude with little real meaning.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: (snip) (to Xeno) I honestly don't remember us ever arguing. What I remember is that when you first arrived you seemed anxious to engage me in endless back-and-forth, a la Judy, and I was having none of it. For the record, it's been a *very* long time since there was any point in trying to engage Barry in an actual discussion. What's odd is that he still considers any comment a critic of his may make about him as an attempt to start an argument with him. I guess that way he can tell himself he's in some kind of control. It sure hasn't dissuaded his critics from expressing their opinions of him, though. I just don't get off on that, that's all. It smacks of ego to me, of having something to prove, or win. I just spout opinions; what other people do with them is their own business. In fact, years ago, Barry *reveled* in long debates. Somewhere along the line he realized he wasn't all that good at debating and figured he'd be better off adopting the position he outlines above so as not to expose his deficiencies. Also saves him the trouble of having to think through his opinions if he's not going to need to defend them. Oh Hail Him! He is an author, unchallenged, composing an entire library to himself. The best stuff he's ever written, and read, in his opinion, unsullied by any attempt at discussion, refinement, clarity, or alternative thought; The Great Writer. The [stupid, egotistical] public may be fortunate enough, to look over the shoulder, of The Great Writer, as he furiously scribbles another book, to himself. This is ONLY possible, as long as they maintain either strict silence, or make soft, supportive cooing sounds. Anything else will NOT be tolerated. Actual attempts at discussion will be sussed out by The Great Writer, for what they really are: Stabs of *hatred* into the center of his sacred heart, interrupting the divine flow of endless words that issues from his pen, to be stored, and poured over, without the pure malice that issues from the unwashed fools constantly surrounding The Great Writer. Let us all back off, and let the magic continue from The Great Writer...his words issuing forth, as effortlessly as a drunk emptying his bladder on the street. We are in awe.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arctic melting? Don't worry Avatars will save the world.
On 05/27/2013 05:19 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Arctic temperatures are rising fast than expected: http://arctic-news.blogspot.nl/2013/03/huge-patches-of-warm-air-over-the-arctic.html These climate changes and what will happen to earth and people is my major non-people related worry in life and I am trying to just not think about it any more. It really is the fundamental, root issue for all of us - other than enlightenment, for some. Is there any genuine good news about this or scientists who think we can actually save things? Folks, listen up: humanity will be gone, gone destroyed. It will be ugly and is happening way faster than even the pessimists expected back in the early 2000's. We are in serious trouble here and have no where to escape. In a decade things are going to be a mess - we won't be here for the end days, but will witness some ugliness and fear coming very soon. As I say, I make an effort to avoid reading about it anymore - way too depressing. I just spent a weekend at a huge and famous garden (Longwood Gardens) while visiting mother in Pennsylvania. I got there early when the doors opened, and soaked up the quiet and green smells. The wind was blowing in the tops of huge trees and the sounds were amazing. I was all green and growing and thriving. Consciousness seemed conscious everywhere there. If I were retired, I would spend more time outside, away from big cities (which I also love). I don't want all this to be ruined. So, Bhairitu, send me some good news on this topic if you come across it. Humanity needs to focus on this pronto and make it our primary cause and support people working to save the earth. Scientists are my superheroes. If you really are that worried why not do something about it ? Take the train instead of driving around is a good start. You mean Maitreya isn't going to save the world?
[FairfieldLife] Atheists still going to hell.....
Vatican confirms that non-believers are indeed going to the fiery pit for eternity despite the new pope dudes confusion earlier this week. Good to have that cleared up. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/27/vatican-confirms-atheists-still-going-to-hell_n_3341368.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: (snip) The real function of a statement like 'you are already enlightened' is not to discourage, but to spike curiosity as to what it signifies, since obviously if it does not click with you at a certain point in your life, it sounds funny, absurd. Its real purpose is to provide the mind with either a trigger if the time is right to wake up, or to provide the intellect with an understanding after the fact if in fact you do wake up. IMHO, such a statement should be used as a tool only by an experienced teacher who has clear enough insight into a particular student's development to know when it will have the desired effect. Otherwise it's just a pompous platitude with little real meaning. We are all already enlightened -- Quite similar in intent as the Born Again Christians being saved - a get out of jail free card, constructed purely out of imagination and rationalizing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: (snip) (to Xeno) I honestly don't remember us ever arguing. What I remember is that when you first arrived you seemed anxious to engage me in endless back-and-forth, a la Judy, and I was having none of it. For the record, it's been a *very* long time since there was any point in trying to engage Barry in an actual discussion. What's odd is that he still considers any comment a critic of his may make about him as an attempt to start an argument with him. I guess that way he can tell himself he's in some kind of control. It sure hasn't dissuaded his critics from expressing their opinions of him, though. I just don't get off on that, that's all. It smacks of ego to me, of having something to prove, or win. I just spout opinions; what other people do with them is their own business. In fact, years ago, Barry *reveled* in long debates. Somewhere along the line he realized he wasn't all that good at debating and figured he'd be better off adopting the position he outlines above so as not to expose his deficiencies. Also saves him the trouble of having to think through his opinions if he's not going to need to defend them. Oh Hail Him! He is an author, unchallenged, composing an entire library to himself. The best stuff he's ever written, and read, in his opinion, unsullied by any attempt at discussion, refinement, clarity, or alternative thought; The Great Writer. The [stupid, egotistical] public may be fortunate enough, to look over the shoulder, of The Great Writer, as he furiously scribbles another book, to himself. This is ONLY possible, as long as they maintain either strict silence, or make soft, supportive cooing sounds. Anything else will NOT be tolerated. Actual attempts at discussion will be sussed out by The Great Writer, for what they really are: Stabs of *hatred* into the center of his sacred heart, interrupting the divine flow of endless words that issues from his pen, to be stored, and poured over, without the pure malice that issues from the unwashed fools constantly surrounding The Great Writer. Let us all back off, and let the magic continue from The Great Writer...his words issuing forth, as effortlessly as a drunk emptying his bladder on the street. We are in awe.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arctic melting? Don't worry Avatars will save the world.
Not to mention that BART is a joke because it was expensive to build and expensive to keep up. If you want to take BART somewhere you have the problem of parking at the BART station which during the week is full up and I think you have to purchase a parking sticker for it too. Light rail might have helped but they've long since torn up all the old rail and trolley lines. Plus GM wanted people to buy cars not take transit. California built up on a car society. Plus unlike Europe the US is spread out. Dmitri Orlov who moved here from the Soviet Union decades ago lectures and writes about the difference between the fall of the USSR and fall of the US (one of Nabby's favorite topics). The USSR had mass transit amidst avenues of high rises (just look at some of those movies on Netflix from the former Soviet Block). The US not so. BART was great for our San Francisco employees because our offices were right next to a BART station. A little more difficult for our South Bay folks. I lived right next to a BART station but still drove to work because I sometimes needed to drive out to meetings. I get offers from companies in SF which is only off commute about 35 minutes away but I would have to drive. And South Bay is way out of the question. Occasionally I get an offer for something in the East Bay which would work if you can get past the 25 year old manager who is terrified of my background. :-D On 05/27/2013 05:27 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Sadly, we don't have a very efficient passenger train system in the US, unlike much of Europe. The choice is either to fly, or drive. There is a high speed rail that will probably be built in California, but that will be really only good for long distances. I worked in San Francisco a few times, a commute from my house of 50 miles or so, one way. To take the train, with transfers, parking and walking, would have taken me two hours, each way, to work. Driving, as long as it was early enough to miss rush hour, was 60 minutes, each way. On the other hand, San Francisco is easy to get around in, without a car, if you live there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Arctic temperatures are rising fast than expected: http://arctic-news.blogspot.nl/2013/03/huge-patches-of-warm-air-over-the-arctic.html These climate changes and what will happen to earth and people is my major non-people related worry in life and I am trying to just not think about it any more. It really is the fundamental, root issue for all of us - other than enlightenment, for some. Is there any genuine good news about this or scientists who think we can actually save things? Folks, listen up: humanity will be gone, gone destroyed. It will be ugly and is happening way faster than even the pessimists expected back in the early 2000's. We are in serious trouble here and have no where to escape. In a decade things are going to be a mess - we won't be here for the end days, but will witness some ugliness and fear coming very soon. As I say, I make an effort to avoid reading about it anymore - way too depressing. I just spent a weekend at a huge and famous garden (Longwood Gardens) while visiting mother in Pennsylvania. I got there early when the doors opened, and soaked up the quiet and green smells. The wind was blowing in the tops of huge trees and the sounds were amazing. I was all green and growing and thriving. Consciousness seemed conscious everywhere there. If I were retired, I would spend more time outside, away from big cities (which I also love). I don't want all this to be ruined. So, Bhairitu, send me some good news on this topic if you come across it. Humanity needs to focus on this pronto and make it our primary cause and support people working to save the earth. Scientists are my superheroes. If you really are that worried why not do something about it ? Take the train instead of driving around is a good start.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
A BRILLIANT distillation!! LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: (snip) (to Xeno) I honestly don't remember us ever arguing. What I remember is that when you first arrived you seemed anxious to engage me in endless back-and-forth, a la Judy, and I was having none of it. For the record, it's been a *very* long time since there was any point in trying to engage Barry in an actual discussion. What's odd is that he still considers any comment a critic of his may make about him as an attempt to start an argument with him. I guess that way he can tell himself he's in some kind of control. It sure hasn't dissuaded his critics from expressing their opinions of him, though. I just don't get off on that, that's all. It smacks of ego to me, of having something to prove, or win. I just spout opinions; what other people do with them is their own business. In fact, years ago, Barry *reveled* in long debates. Somewhere along the line he realized he wasn't all that good at debating and figured he'd be better off adopting the position he outlines above so as not to expose his deficiencies. Also saves him the trouble of having to think through his opinions if he's not going to need to defend them. Oh Hail Him! He is an author, unchallenged, composing an entire library to himself. The best stuff he's ever written, and read, in his opinion, unsullied by any attempt at discussion, refinement, clarity, or alternative thought; The Great Writer. The [stupid, egotistical] public may be fortunate enough, to look over the shoulder, of The Great Writer, as he furiously scribbles another book, to himself. This is ONLY possible, as long as they maintain either strict silence, or make soft, supportive cooing sounds. Anything else will NOT be tolerated. Actual attempts at discussion will be sussed out by The Great Writer, for what they really are: Stabs of *hatred* into the center of his sacred heart, interrupting the divine flow of endless words that issues from his pen, to be stored, and poured over, without the pure malice that issues from the unwashed fools constantly surrounding The Great Writer. Let us all back off, and let the magic continue from The Great Writer...his words issuing forth, as effortlessly as a drunk emptying his bladder on the street. We are in awe.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arctic melting? Don't worry Avatars will save the world.
On 05/26/2013 05:27 PM, Susan wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Arctic temperatures are rising fast than expected: http://arctic-news.blogspot.nl/2013/03/huge-patches-of-warm-air-over-the-arctic.html These climate changes and what will happen to earth and people is my major non-people related worry in life and I am trying to just not think about it any more. It really is the fundamental, root issue for all of us - other than enlightenment, for some. Is there any genuine good news about this or scientists who think we can actually save things? Folks, listen up: humanity will be gone, gone destroyed. It will be ugly and is happening way faster than even the pessimists expected back in the early 2000's. We are in serious trouble here and have no where to escape. In a decade things are going to be a mess - we won't be here for the end days, but will witness some ugliness and fear coming very soon. As I say, I make an effort to avoid reading about it anymore - way too depressing. I just spent a weekend at a huge and famous garden (Longwood Gardens) while visiting mother in Pennsylvania. I got there early when the doors opened, and soaked up the quiet and green smells. The wind was blowing in the tops of huge trees and the sounds were amazing. I was all green and growing and thriving. Consciousness seemed conscious everywhere there. If I were retired, I would spend more time outside, away from big cities (which I also love). I don't want all this to be ruined. So, Bhairitu, send me some good news on this topic if you come across it. Humanity needs to focus on this pronto and make it our primary cause and support people working to save the earth. Scientists are my superheroes. But don't worry, super heroes will save the day: http://gf2045.com That conference would be a hoot and will get a lot of heckles. Ray Kurzweil wants t turns us all into cyborgs. Most scientists think he is crazy. Look at Monsanto. It was founded by a guy who thought his ideas would save the world from starvation. Then his marketing department took over. Plus as mentioned by the scientist in the article posted here, those ideas are about 50 years old and invented without the vision that someday everyone could have a computer on their desk. Now we can use computers to find the best way to grow plenty of food naturally. No need for Monsanto and their evil seeds. Scientists are like musicians. Musicians write few good songs and a lot of bad ones. Scientists have a few good ideas and a lot of bad ones. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: (snip) The real function of a statement like 'you are already enlightened' is not to discourage, but to spike curiosity as to what it signifies, since obviously if it does not click with you at a certain point in your life, it sounds funny, absurd. Its real purpose is to provide the mind with either a trigger if the time is right to wake up, or to provide the intellect with an understanding after the fact if in fact you do wake up. IMHO, such a statement should be used as a tool only by an experienced teacher who has clear enough insight into a particular student's development to know when it will have the desired effect. Otherwise it's just a pompous platitude with little real meaning. Yes. I do agree with this. Though every birthday party I have been to conducted by TM governors has this statement built into the ceremonial text. So there is some precedent for just throwing it out there indiscriminately. You also find it in Zen. It is also buried more subtly in stories made by Sufis. One problem in general is after an awakening, ego is still active and it takes a long time to 'train' it, as if you haven't noticed in my behaviour, and others' (anyone need a doctor?) here. This malady comes with the territory, and awareness of one's illness is really difficult to come by because you are blindsided by the shift in experience. It is documented among teachers brought through the Zen tradition. I really do not see it mentioned much in TM, but I do not have an encyclopaedic knowledge of this as regards TM or traditions other than Zen. You find yourself in a new world, and you do not even know how to walk or talk. For those doing TM, you find yourself confronted with TM teachers that have no clue as to what you are experiencing. I think forums like this are a good place to come in this situation because the resistance you get helps illuminate these shortcomings.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
On 05/26/2013 10:27 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: I never heard anything about him saying that simple meditators were to avoid seeking other paths, only that it was bad form for the TM teachers to be seen that way. It may not have been said, but it was policy. If you were known to be seeing other teachers, you were not allowed to go to TTC, or on long courses that required approval. If going to TTC, teachers would tell you not to tell anyone you read a certain book even though another TM teacher recommended it. Most of the teachers who approved me for my course were into reading books by other gurus or forbidden books like the Srimad Bhagavatam or editions with the rest of the Gita. Contrast that with my tantra guru who made a point of insisting we go visit other teachers in the area so we would know what they were teaching. And amongst yogis there is quite a social community. TM was like a recluse amongst that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arctic melting? Don't worry Avatars will save the world.
Yep, tire sales. Also, the county transportation gods of Alameda and Santa Clara counties did not get along, so BART never made it past SFO. Muni is good in SF, but the only way I can take BART is by first driving to Fremont, *away* from SF, to then catch BART, *to* SF. I've done that exactly once. Commuting to the City, when I had a job where I needed to go into the office every day, used to cost me $200/mo. for gas, when gas was $2 a gallon. A parking space was $250/mo. (Financial District). Plus I left for work at 4:30 each morning. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Not to mention that BART is a joke because it was expensive to build and expensive to keep up. If you want to take BART somewhere you have the problem of parking at the BART station which during the week is full up and I think you have to purchase a parking sticker for it too. Light rail might have helped but they've long since torn up all the old rail and trolley lines. Plus GM wanted people to buy cars not take transit. California built up on a car society. Plus unlike Europe the US is spread out. Dmitri Orlov who moved here from the Soviet Union decades ago lectures and writes about the difference between the fall of the USSR and fall of the US (one of Nabby's favorite topics). The USSR had mass transit amidst avenues of high rises (just look at some of those movies on Netflix from the former Soviet Block). The US not so. BART was great for our San Francisco employees because our offices were right next to a BART station. A little more difficult for our South Bay folks. I lived right next to a BART station but still drove to work because I sometimes needed to drive out to meetings. I get offers from companies in SF which is only off commute about 35 minutes away but I would have to drive. And South Bay is way out of the question. Occasionally I get an offer for something in the East Bay which would work if you can get past the 25 year old manager who is terrified of my background. :-D On 05/27/2013 05:27 AM, doctordumbass@... wrote: Sadly, we don't have a very efficient passenger train system in the US, unlike much of Europe. The choice is either to fly, or drive. There is a high speed rail that will probably be built in California, but that will be really only good for long distances. I worked in San Francisco a few times, a commute from my house of 50 miles or so, one way. To take the train, with transfers, parking and walking, would have taken me two hours, each way, to work. Driving, as long as it was early enough to miss rush hour, was 60 minutes, each way. On the other hand, San Francisco is easy to get around in, without a car, if you live there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Arctic temperatures are rising fast than expected: http://arctic-news.blogspot.nl/2013/03/huge-patches-of-warm-air-over-the-arctic.html These climate changes and what will happen to earth and people is my major non-people related worry in life and I am trying to just not think about it any more. It really is the fundamental, root issue for all of us - other than enlightenment, for some. Is there any genuine good news about this or scientists who think we can actually save things? Folks, listen up: humanity will be gone, gone destroyed. It will be ugly and is happening way faster than even the pessimists expected back in the early 2000's. We are in serious trouble here and have no where to escape. In a decade things are going to be a mess - we won't be here for the end days, but will witness some ugliness and fear coming very soon. As I say, I make an effort to avoid reading about it anymore - way too depressing. I just spent a weekend at a huge and famous garden (Longwood Gardens) while visiting mother in Pennsylvania. I got there early when the doors opened, and soaked up the quiet and green smells. The wind was blowing in the tops of huge trees and the sounds were amazing. I was all green and growing and thriving. Consciousness seemed conscious everywhere there. If I were retired, I would spend more time outside, away from big cities (which I also love). I don't want all this to be ruined. So, Bhairitu, send me some good news on this topic if you come across it. Humanity needs to focus on this pronto and make it our primary cause and support people working to save the earth. Scientists are my superheroes. If you really are that worried why not do something about it ? Take the train instead of driving around is a good start.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmatman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill wrote: brahma satyam jagan mithya jivo brahmaiva na parah brahman is real - the world an appearance- the individual is brahman indeed - not other Vivekachudamani of Shankara Got brahm? Huh!? [:-/]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: (snip) The real function of a statement like 'you are already enlightened' is not to discourage, but to spike curiosity as to what it signifies, since obviously if it does not click with you at a certain point in your life, it sounds funny, absurd. Its real purpose is to provide the mind with either a trigger if the time is right to wake up, or to provide the intellect with an understanding after the fact if in fact you do wake up. IMHO, such a statement should be used as a tool only by an experienced teacher who has clear enough insight into a particular student's development to know when it will have the desired effect. Otherwise it's just a pompous platitude with little real meaning. Yes. I do agree with this. Though every birthday party I have been to conducted by TM governors has this statement built into the ceremonial text. So there is some precedent for just throwing it out there indiscriminately It isn't thrown out there indiscriminately in the TM context. In the ceremony, it's a ritual acknowledgment, not a suggestion that all one needs to do to achieve realization is stop resisting one's true nature, or however it's expressed elsewhere. You also find it in Zen. It is also buried more subtly in stories made by Sufis. Yes. I think you know what it is that I'm objecting to. (snip) Actually it is difficult to know just what you object to because you seem to object to just about everything.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: (snip) The real function of a statement like 'you are already enlightened' is not to discourage, but to spike curiosity as to what it signifies, since obviously if it does not click with you at a certain point in your life, it sounds funny, absurd. Its real purpose is to provide the mind with either a trigger if the time is right to wake up, or to provide the intellect with an understanding after the fact if in fact you do wake up. IMHO, such a statement should be used as a tool only by an experienced teacher who has clear enough insight into a particular student's development to know when it will have the desired effect. Otherwise it's just a pompous platitude with little real meaning. Yes. I do agree with this. Though every birthday party I have been to conducted by TM governors has this statement built into the ceremonial text. So there is some precedent for just throwing it out there indiscriminately. You also find it in Zen. It is also buried more subtly in stories made by Sufis. One problem in general is after an awakening, ego is still active and it takes a long time to 'train' it, as if you haven't noticed in my behaviour, and others' (anyone need a doctor?) here. This malady comes with the territory, and awareness of one's illness is really difficult to come by because you are blindsided by the shift in experience. It is documented among teachers brought through the Zen tradition. I really do not see it mentioned much in TM, but I do not have an encyclopaedic knowledge of this as regards TM or traditions other than Zen. You find yourself in a new world, and you do not even know how to walk or talk. For those doing TM, you find yourself confronted with TM teachers that have no clue as to what you are experiencing. I think forums like this are a good place to come in this situation because the resistance you get helps illuminate these shortcomings. Hey Xeno, you switched it up here. You are no longer talking about uttering the useless phrase about being already enlightened, but have moved on to the usefulness of Barry's BS on this forum, as a sort of leavening, once one is awakened to their true nature. Sure, any initial challenge to an assumption is useful. However, once our spiritual development transcends such challenges, as it inevitably will, if we are in fact Awake, someone just hanging around, spouting confused notions of the world, is hardly helpful for you, me, or anyone else. I find it to be a pain in the ass. There was a TV program awhile back, called, Kids Say The Darnedest Things, where the host, Art Linkletter, would elicit for TV, children saying some wiser than their years stuff. You seem to be mistaking a sort of childish precociousness in Barry, for actual wisdom. If you follow his descriptions of enlightenment, tantra, cosmology, anything that takes some life experience for an answer, he's got nothing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: (snip) The real function of a statement like 'you are already enlightened' is not to discourage, but to spike curiosity as to what it signifies, since obviously if it does not click with you at a certain point in your life, it sounds funny, absurd. Its real purpose is to provide the mind with either a trigger if the time is right to wake up, or to provide the intellect with an understanding after the fact if in fact you do wake up. IMHO, such a statement should be used as a tool only by an experienced teacher who has clear enough insight into a particular student's development to know when it will have the desired effect. Otherwise it's just a pompous platitude with little real meaning. Yes. I do agree with this. Though every birthday party I have been to conducted by TM governors has this statement built into the ceremonial text. So there is some precedent for just throwing it out there indiscriminately It isn't thrown out there indiscriminately in the TM context. In the ceremony, it's a ritual acknowledgment, not a suggestion that all one needs to do to achieve realization is stop resisting one's true nature, or however it's expressed elsewhere. You also find it in Zen. It is also buried more subtly in stories made by Sufis. Yes. I think you know what it is that I'm objecting to. (snip)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: (snip) The real function of a statement like 'you are already enlightened' is not to discourage, but to spike curiosity as to what it signifies, since obviously if it does not click with you at a certain point in your life, it sounds funny, absurd. Its real purpose is to provide the mind with either a trigger if the time is right to wake up, or to provide the intellect with an understanding after the fact if in fact you do wake up. IMHO, such a statement should be used as a tool only by an experienced teacher who has clear enough insight into a particular student's development to know when it will have the desired effect. Otherwise it's just a pompous platitude with little real meaning. Yes. I do agree with this. Though every birthday party I have been to conducted by TM governors has this statement built into the ceremonial text. So there is some precedent for just throwing it out there indiscriminately It isn't thrown out there indiscriminately in the TM context. In the ceremony, it's a ritual acknowledgment, not a suggestion that all one needs to do to achieve realization is stop resisting one's true nature, or however it's expressed elsewhere. You also find it in Zen. It is also buried more subtly in stories made by Sufis. Yes. I think you know what it is that I'm objecting to. (snip) Actually it is difficult to know just what you object to because you seem to object to just about everything. I certainly object to that assertion, because you know better.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: (snip) The real function of a statement like 'you are already enlightened' is not to discourage, but to spike curiosity as to what it signifies, since obviously if it does not click with you at a certain point in your life, it sounds funny, absurd. Its real purpose is to provide the mind with either a trigger if the time is right to wake up, or to provide the intellect with an understanding after the fact if in fact you do wake up. IMHO, such a statement should be used as a tool only by an experienced teacher who has clear enough insight into a particular student's development to know when it will have the desired effect. Otherwise it's just a pompous platitude with little real meaning. Yes. I do agree with this. Though every birthday party I have been to conducted by TM governors has this statement built into the ceremonial text. So there is some precedent for just throwing it out there indiscriminately. You also find it in Zen. It is also buried more subtly in stories made by Sufis. One problem in general is after an awakening, ego is still active and it takes a long time to 'train' it, as if you haven't noticed in my behaviour, and others' (anyone need a doctor?) here. This malady comes with the territory, and awareness of one's illness is really difficult to come by because you are blindsided by the shift in experience. It is documented among teachers brought through the Zen tradition. I really do not see it mentioned much in TM, but I do not have an encyclopaedic knowledge of this as regards TM or traditions other than Zen. You find yourself in a new world, and you do not even know how to walk or talk. For those doing TM, you find yourself confronted with TM teachers that have no clue as to what you are experiencing. I think forums like this are a good place to come in this situation because the resistance you get helps illuminate these shortcomings. Hey Xeno, you switched it up here. You are no longer talking about uttering the useless phrase about being already enlightened, but have moved on to the usefulness of Barry's BS on this forum, as a sort of leavening, once one is awakened to their true nature. Sure, any initial challenge to an assumption is useful. However, once our spiritual development transcends such challenges, as it inevitably will, if we are in fact Awake, someone just hanging around, spouting confused notions of the world, is hardly helpful for you, me, or anyone else. I find it to be a pain in the ass. Patience. There was a TV program awhile back, called, Kids Say The Darnedest Things, where the host, Art Linkletter, would elicit for TV, children saying some wiser than their years stuff. You seem to be mistaking a sort of childish precociousness in Barry, for actual wisdom. If you follow his descriptions of enlightenment, tantra, cosmology, anything that takes some life experience for an answer, he's got nothing. Everyone has something. Life is not about 'them', though they are a part of it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: BrahmÂtman
Got it? Snake is the experience but stick is the actual basis of the appearance. Individuality is the apparent experience but the Vast Expanse is the basis. Experience is an idea founded upon indistinction between svArtha versus parAtha. ys 3.25 Got BrahmÂtman? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill wrote: brahma satyam jagan mithya jivo brahmaiva na parah brahman is real - the world an appearance- the individual is brahman indeed - not other Vivekachudamani of Shankara Got brahm? Huh!? [:-/]
[FairfieldLife] Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness
John Searle at CERN (TEDxTalks) http://youtu.be/j_OPQgPIdKg [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=j_OPQgPIdKg ]
[FairfieldLife] Vigiling for LB's body
dear friends LB's body will lie in state through Wednesday May 29th at 11am. If you would like to come and visit, meditate and view his peaceful form, please come to Calu Apartments on West Briggs. Park in the lot south of Calu, across the street. LB's apartment is on the northeast corner of the ground floor. To get into the building, go to the window of his apartment (2nd window on the North side) and the person hosting will let you in through the East door (please enter there as we want to minimize traffic coming through the lobby!). If you would like to, when you come bring flowers to put on LB's body. Please pass this information on. All blessings, Jennifer Hamilton
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
My bad - Yes, you are correct, a chimpanzee will eventually write Shakespeare, if given enough time. However, unlike you, I am pretty much out of bananas. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: (snip) The real function of a statement like 'you are already enlightened' is not to discourage, but to spike curiosity as to what it signifies, since obviously if it does not click with you at a certain point in your life, it sounds funny, absurd. Its real purpose is to provide the mind with either a trigger if the time is right to wake up, or to provide the intellect with an understanding after the fact if in fact you do wake up. IMHO, such a statement should be used as a tool only by an experienced teacher who has clear enough insight into a particular student's development to know when it will have the desired effect. Otherwise it's just a pompous platitude with little real meaning. Yes. I do agree with this. Though every birthday party I have been to conducted by TM governors has this statement built into the ceremonial text. So there is some precedent for just throwing it out there indiscriminately. You also find it in Zen. It is also buried more subtly in stories made by Sufis. One problem in general is after an awakening, ego is still active and it takes a long time to 'train' it, as if you haven't noticed in my behaviour, and others' (anyone need a doctor?) here. This malady comes with the territory, and awareness of one's illness is really difficult to come by because you are blindsided by the shift in experience. It is documented among teachers brought through the Zen tradition. I really do not see it mentioned much in TM, but I do not have an encyclopaedic knowledge of this as regards TM or traditions other than Zen. You find yourself in a new world, and you do not even know how to walk or talk. For those doing TM, you find yourself confronted with TM teachers that have no clue as to what you are experiencing. I think forums like this are a good place to come in this situation because the resistance you get helps illuminate these shortcomings. Hey Xeno, you switched it up here. You are no longer talking about uttering the useless phrase about being already enlightened, but have moved on to the usefulness of Barry's BS on this forum, as a sort of leavening, once one is awakened to their true nature. Sure, any initial challenge to an assumption is useful. However, once our spiritual development transcends such challenges, as it inevitably will, if we are in fact Awake, someone just hanging around, spouting confused notions of the world, is hardly helpful for you, me, or anyone else. I find it to be a pain in the ass. Patience. There was a TV program awhile back, called, Kids Say The Darnedest Things, where the host, Art Linkletter, would elicit for TV, children saying some wiser than their years stuff. You seem to be mistaking a sort of childish precociousness in Barry, for actual wisdom. If you follow his descriptions of enlightenment, tantra, cosmology, anything that takes some life experience for an answer, he's got nothing. Everyone has something. Life is not about 'them', though they are a part of it.
[FairfieldLife] America Celebrates War Mongering
This morning's walk was like a scene out of Apocalypse Now. As I started out walking down the street there was suddenly the roar of a helicopter coming down the valley. This one was louder than many of the police, fire and private copters that fly around here and as I looked I realized it was one of those Huey's flew back in Vietnam. I wish I had popped by phone out of it's holder and taken a video as it passed only a block away. This was obviously for Memorial Day commemorations as was a WWII bomber flying around though I didn't see it this year. But what I've been noticing is almost a celebration of war in the media as if to program the public into thinking war is okay. This morning I also read that almost 7000 soldiers have lost their lives since the start of the war in Afghanistan. And for what? For wars of empire and mainly for profit for a bunch of old insane white guys who run this country. As General Smedley Butler wrote War is a Racket. In the 1930s Butler was enlisted by corporate leaders to overthrow FDR. Butler wisely turned tables on them and there was a hearing on the attempted coup. But none of those corporate heads went to prison as they should have. Just like we haven't seen one damn bankster prosecuted today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler And this morning we hear that Senator John McCain is in Syria trying get another war for the US to get involved in. The US should be spreading peace not blood throughout the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Yes. I think you know what it is that I'm objecting to. Actually it is difficult to know just what you object to because you seem to object to just about everything. LOL. Noticed that, did you? :-) From my side, I think this posting week has been fairly funny, because I suggested back at the end of the last one that ignoring them would cause them to go crazier than interacting with them. Seems to have been true. :-) As I've said many times, NOTHING makes the haters hate more than seeing those they hate enjoying themselves. Unless it's them having fairly enjoy- able conversations with other people here on FFL who aren't afraid of being added to their Enemies List for having them. I don't know about you, dude, but I'm sitting in a cafe along the Seine appreciating the beginnings of a sunset that looks as if it's going to be a doozy. Who can worry about gnats when a light show like that is going on? BTW, I'd give up on trying to get the already enlightened thang across to those who have never experienced it. They tend to react nastily to the idea that the only thing preventing them from realizing what they are is their own stick-up- the-buttedness and preconceptions. So much easier to believe it's all because of stress or the state of the world, or something else they can blame it on.
[FairfieldLife] Re: America Celebrates War Mongering
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: The US should be spreading peace not blood throughout the world. Fat chance. It's been doing this almost since its inception, and more so after WWII. A former general and President warned us about the military- industrial complex. No one listened.
[FairfieldLife] Goalie: almost supernatural save??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68NHtReNrWQ
[FairfieldLife] Re: America Celebrates War Mongering
One day, a few weeks ago, I was stopped at a light, on El Camino, near SF, right next to the fence of the Golden Gate National Cemetery. The place is huge, acres and acres of uniform marble markers, flowing across the hills and grass, some shaded with oaks. A peaceful and horrifying place, both. I just looked it up - 141,000 war dead, there. Filled to capacity. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: This morning's walk was like a scene out of Apocalypse Now. As I started out walking down the street there was suddenly the roar of a helicopter coming down the valley. This one was louder than many of the police, fire and private copters that fly around here and as I looked I realized it was one of those Huey's flew back in Vietnam. I wish I had popped by phone out of it's holder and taken a video as it passed only a block away. This was obviously for Memorial Day commemorations as was a WWII bomber flying around though I didn't see it this year. But what I've been noticing is almost a celebration of war in the media as if to program the public into thinking war is okay. This morning I also read that almost 7000 soldiers have lost their lives since the start of the war in Afghanistan. And for what? For wars of empire and mainly for profit for a bunch of old insane white guys who run this country. As General Smedley Butler wrote War is a Racket. In the 1930s Butler was enlisted by corporate leaders to overthrow FDR. Butler wisely turned tables on them and there was a hearing on the attempted coup. But none of those corporate heads went to prison as they should have. Just like we haven't seen one damn bankster prosecuted today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler And this morning we hear that Senator John McCain is in Syria trying get another war for the US to get involved in. The US should be spreading peace not blood throughout the world.
[FairfieldLife] Bird with a 'tude
I can identify. It's why I'm still on FFL. :-) [https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/936402_485217366\ 8882_1735624884_n.jpg]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Atheists still going to hell.....
On 05/27/2013 09:13 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Vatican confirms that non-believers are indeed going to the fiery pit for eternity despite the new pope dudes confusion earlier this week. Good to have that cleared up. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/27/vatican-confirms-atheists-still-going-to-hell_n_3341368.html?utm_hp_ref=uk If there is a hell then the Vatican should be sent their for their centuries long scam.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
The Great Writer's Imagined Response, To His Great Writing: m...yes, Barry, oh yes! Fucking brilliant! Ooh, you rock! Damn you are perceptive! Kissee??! Smooch-O?? Lip-lock, you bad boy?? h??? You rock my world. (smooch?) xoxoxoxoxo hm? wink, wink, nudge, nudge? Brilliant, You! m...mummy was right...Genius...buy you another round? Hmmm? winky, winky, nudgie nudgie?? Yo, Barry, Mah Man!!! Kiss-Kiss, you fucking savior!!! Rock It! hmmm? wink, wink? !!! h? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Yes. I think you know what it is that I'm objecting to. Actually it is difficult to know just what you object to because you seem to object to just about everything. LOL. Noticed that, did you? :-) From my side, I think this posting week has been fairly funny, because I suggested back at the end of the last one that ignoring them would cause them to go crazier than interacting with them. Seems to have been true. :-) As I've said many times, NOTHING makes the haters hate more than seeing those they hate enjoying themselves. Unless it's them having fairly enjoy- able conversations with other people here on FFL who aren't afraid of being added to their Enemies List for having them. I don't know about you, dude, but I'm sitting in a cafe along the Seine appreciating the beginnings of a sunset that looks as if it's going to be a doozy. Who can worry about gnats when a light show like that is going on? BTW, I'd give up on trying to get the already enlightened thang across to those who have never experienced it. They tend to react nastily to the idea that the only thing preventing them from realizing what they are is their own stick-up- the-buttedness and preconceptions. So much easier to believe it's all because of stress or the state of the world, or something else they can blame it on.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Gluten free diet and siddhis!
noozguru, thanks for the info about how to avoid developing an intolerance. I'd forgotten about that and can have a tendency to not have enough variety in my diet. A chiropractor once told me that if you eat something 3 days in a row, you automatically become allergic to it! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Gluten free diet and siddhis! Conventional medicine says only a very small percentage of the population suffers from gluten intolerance while some naturopaths have it as high as 60%. The truth is probably somewhere in between. A gluten free is not that hard to do if one wants to try it. I tried some gluten free muffins and bagels a couple weeks back because they were on sale at what you might pay for muffins and bagels regularly. I don't think I'm in the percentage that has the problem though. But then I do eat lots of corn products, rice pastas and rice. It's always good to mix things up a bit just to avoid developing an intolerance. On 05/25/2013 07:58 AM, Share Long wrote: That's great carde, what other benefits have you noticed? noozguru, you've probably said before, but I'll ask anyway: what do you think of the whole gluten free trend? thanks From: card cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Gluten free diet and siddhis! Highly recommend most of us to try gluten free diet at least for a couple of days! (No wheat, rye or, Lawd have mercy, barley!?) It's way weird but after I've been on that diet for a couple of weeks now, also the other saMyama-s (not just YF) seem to have some effect, or stuff! Well, mainly that's prolly due to my being able to concentrate (do dhaaraNaa*) better, because the constant irritation of my lungs has diminished, I'd say at least by 90 percent! *saMyamaH = dhaaraNaa + dhyaanam + samaadhiH (trayam [(those) three] ekatra: saMyamaH)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Yes. I think you know what it is that I'm objecting to. Actually it is difficult to know just what you object to because you seem to object to just about everything. LOL. Noticed that, did you? :-) From my side, I think this posting week has been fairly funny, because I suggested back at the end of the last one that ignoring them would cause them to go crazier than interacting with them. Seems to have been true. :-) Barry's disappointed because it's been a pretty tame week, so he has to pretend it wasn't in order to save face. Guess you weren't ignoring the people you hate hard enough. Maybe it would help to announce that you're doing so more frequently. As I've said many times, And you've been wrong *every single time*. This is your *fantasy*, Barry, not the reality. How sad that the only way you can enjoy yourself is to imagine that the people you hate are envious of you. NOTHING makes the haters hate more than seeing those they hate enjoying themselves. Unless it's them having fairly enjoy- able conversations with other people here on FFL who aren't afraid of being added to their Enemies List for having them. I don't know about you, dude, but I'm sitting in a cafe along the Seine appreciating the beginnings of a sunset that looks as if it's going to be a doozy. Who can worry about gnats when a light show like that is going on? BTW, I'd give up on trying to get the already enlightened thang across to those who have never experienced it. They tend to react nastily to the idea that the only thing preventing them from realizing what they are is their own stick-up- the-buttedness and preconceptions. Actually people tend to react nastily when the folks promoting this notion do so nastily, or patronizingly, or pretend they're imparting some profound new insight, or that all it takes to realize one's enlightenment is to drop one's preconceptions (especially when this last premise is advanced by those who are *embalmed* in their own preconceptions). So much easier to believe it's all because of stress or the state of the world, or something else they can blame it on. It's easiest of all not to even think in terms of blame or belief but rather to just enjoy one's practice (or nonpractice) and appreciate the benefits and experiences that result.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another Voice in the Argument about Consciousness
Xeno, I was expecting to be blown away by discovered complexity I knew not of, but strangely, the talk was lite, and I, well, sue me, but I kinda felt smugly sorry for Searle. As wonderful as his sermon was, it seemed strangely hollow -- not shallow -- but hollow. It seemed absent the heartwood core axioms of spirituality that can be found across cultures throughout time. I wanted to grab him by the shirt collar and say, You need to read some Advaita books. And if he'd done so, THEN READ THEM AGAIN until he grew the nervous system that could grok it. The talk's heft was that it was positively impacting on almost any audience, but it lacked hard science examples that I thought would be coming at me like Gatling bullets. But nope. The one thing he tried to ram home was that consciousness was purely a physical phenomenon without any unexplainable or scientifically non-approachable ugga-bugga. And that definition of consciousness I AGREE WITH FULLY. The biggest failure of the talk was that the concept of the Witness of consciousness was not mentioned -- although perhaps alluded to briefly as he batted aside the traditional POVs on consciousness. Advaita would definitely give him the intellectual tools with which to see if the Witness could also be delineated such that it, too, might be sought in experiments. I think it could. But, of course, I'd want to WARN Searle that understanding Advaita was merely and only a secondary goal -- like knowing a map -- and that realization would come to him only if and when his ADDICTION to conceptual experiences were ended -- and THEN the territory of that map would be revealed as the only actuality beyond BOTH existence and non-existence. And that requires building a nervous system that knows how to dwell in a close to silence state of biology - a state that is so non-stimulating of consciousness' thought production clockworks that identity could slip off of it and be realized as, IDENTITY, the source of every form of identification seen in the actions of consciousness. And, yeah, I'd like to chide him a bit about being a scientist and prideful that all of THIS can be grasped. I guess he needs to read some Godel, too, if only to show the limitations of logic. To me, the Witness is to be but halfly measured when it's targeted as part of the grand illusion, but in order to talk about it, one finds that language, as if, forces the word to seem to refer to a full manifestation instead of the now-you-see-it-now-you-don't hyperbolic entity that is but half observed -- not unlike as today's science now looks an electron with its two states -- wave/particle. I call the observable part of the Witness, ego. The unmanifest part I call awareness, absolute, sentience, identity -- recognizing that all those words are qualities and therefore, hee hee, an especial kind of ersatz non-thing-a-ma-jigger Science needs to humble itself and admit that the embodiment of the Witness in materiality is one in which the Witness pokes its head above the ritam line as much as it dwells below that line and is then beyond any of science's instrumentality's metrics. Good luck on that happening. And, by the way, thanks for all your posts. I always scan to see what you're writing about, and have read your posts enough to know that if I do enter a thread, your stuff is the get-to-the-heart-of-it stuff, so good on ya. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: John Searle at CERN (TEDxTalks) http://youtu.be/j_OPQgPIdKg [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=j_OPQgPIdKg ]
[FairfieldLife] Totally useless feature?
Lumia 925 action shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyp8MNn1uNgfeature=youtu.be
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bird with a 'tude
The below bird is Advaita, the above bird, the Absolute. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I can identify. It's why I'm still on FFL. :-) [https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/936402_485217366\ 8882_1735624884_n.jpg]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
I'm curious - the person who got off career - did he acknowledge that he had done so, or was he ok with it? From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 7:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa I wish she would sit at home, knitting sweaters. I have only known two people who were associated with Amma. I suppose someone could chalk it up to coincidence, but one derailed his career for her, and the other jumped to his death off the Golden Gate bridge. So, I am kind of thumbs down on the whole Amma scene. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: This is not going to be good for Fairfield Dome Badges or the Dome numbers. -Buck in the Dome Someone sent me this... FW: [paste] As you all know by now, Amma is coming to Cedar Rapids Iowa for 2 days of programs on June 25th and 26th. For those of us who have met Amma before this is a very special and much anticipated event where we, once again, can experience Her unconditional love and inspiration. We also know how wonderful it is to share Amma with our friends and neighbors. Millions of people from all walks of life, from every religion, and from every continent have enjoyed meeting with Amma. Please share this invitation to meet with Amma with all of your friends. Attached is a pdf poster that you may forward to your friends etc. Complete information about the Cedar Rapids event is available at www.amma.org/tours. Please note that the main hotel (Double Tree) is now full but there are hotels near by with rooms available at the AMMA rate (book by June 3rd). Information about Amma and her many charitable activities, along with information about her other events in North America this summer can also be found at www.amma.org [end paste]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
That is hilarious! I just got back from Trader Joe's and am housecleaning for daughter's 13th birthday party - stopped to take a break and much to my surprise I see over 70 posts since this morning! Now I have an excuse not to vacuum for a few more minutes. Not that it matters to anyone here but I am supremely thankful to my friend Henry Patton the plumber (and yes he is related to Gen. George Patton) who came out yesterday - a 45 minute drive one way - to fix our plumbing that had gone on the fritz - my friends tell me he's a saint and he proved it last night for sure - and wasn't even gonna charge us anything, we had to insist on paying him. Ahh, life seems like crap when the plumbing backs up, then a real living saint comes and fixes it. Then we get to stock up on Trader Joe's stuff - I broke into the Dark Chocolate Truffle bar even before I buckled my seat belt. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa Let me know when a dead saint comes to Iowa. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 5:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa Sweaters, please. :-) --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, I'm sorry about what happened to your friends. But really?! Did you read the article about Amma that Rick posted recently? Her organizations have really helped thousands of people. Maybe that could have been accomplished if she had sat at home knitting sweaters. We'll never know. All we do know is that she didn't and her organizations have helped thousands of people. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa  I wish she would sit at home, knitting sweaters. I have only known two people who were associated with Amma. I suppose someone could chalk it up to coincidence, but one derailed his career for her, and the other jumped to his death off the Golden Gate bridge. So, I am kind of thumbs down on the whole Amma scene. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: This is not going to be good for Fairfield Dome Badges or the Dome numbers. -Buck in the Dome Someone sent me this... FW: [paste] As you all know by now, Amma is coming to Cedar Rapids Iowa for 2 days of programs on June 25th and 26th. For those of us who have met Amma before this is a very special and much anticipated event where we, once again, can experience Her unconditional love and inspiration. We also know how wonderful it is to share Amma with our friends and neighbors. Millions of people from all walks of life, from every religion, and from every continent have enjoyed meeting with Amma. Please share this invitation to meet with Amma with all of your friends. Attached is a pdf poster that you may forward to your friends etc. Complete information about the Cedar Rapids event is available at www.amma.org/tours. Please note that the main hotel (Double Tree) is now full but there are hotels near by with rooms available at the AMMA rate (book by June 3rd). Information about Amma and her many charitable activities, along with information about her other events in North America this summer can also be found at www.amma.org [end paste]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
That is really hilarious!!! I must say I am a bit sceptical about the Amma article - I read every word and I wonder if the author had some bias for her, you know like the TM shills who write pro-TM articles? From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa I remember the first time I went to the Vatican and saw Pope's bones. Reminded me of some kind of Southern dish, Pope's bones and Chitterlings with a sie of mustard greens and corn bread. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 5:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa This might be a diplomatic solution, between sweaters, and dead saints, for Iowa, and it increases the options, multi-fold. Here, from wikipedia, is a list of deceased Archdeacons of *Cardigan* (a post in the diocese of St David's, Wales): 1563 Peregrine Davids 1569-1584 Lewis Gwynn[4] 1592–1629 Richard Middleton 1629-1654 Thomas Brand[5] 1660–1668 Edward Vaughan [6] 1668–?1680 William Owen (died 1680) 1681 John Williams [6] 1701-1714 John Shore [6] 1714-1721 Owen Evans [6] 1721-1727 John Parry [6] 1727-1739 Edward Welchman 1739-1769 Edward Yardley[7][8] (died 1769) 1770-1798 Thomas Vincent [6] 1798-1814 John Williams [6] 1814-1833 Thomas Beynon[9] 1833-?1858 John Williams[10] (died 1858) 1859-?1860 John Hughes[11] (died 1860) 1860-?1893 William North (died 1893) [12] 1893–1903 J. Harvard Protheroe[13] --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Let me know when a dead saint comes to Iowa. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 5:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa  Sweaters, please. :-) --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Doc, I'm sorry about what happened to your friends. But really?! Did you read the article about Amma that Rick posted recently? Her organizations have really helped thousands of people. Maybe that could have been accomplished if she had sat at home knitting sweaters. We'll never know. All we do know is that she didn't and her organizations have helped thousands of people. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa  I wish she would sit at home, knitting sweaters. I have only known two people who were associated with Amma. I suppose someone could chalk it up to coincidence, but one derailed his career for her, and the other jumped to his death off the Golden Gate bridge. So, I am kind of thumbs down on the whole Amma scene. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: This is not going to be good for Fairfield Dome Badges or the Dome numbers. -Buck in the Dome Someone sent me this... FW: [paste] As you all know by now, Amma is coming to Cedar Rapids Iowa for 2 days of programs on June 25th and 26th. For those of us who have met Amma before this is a very special and much anticipated event where we, once again, can experience Her unconditional love and inspiration. We also know how wonderful it is to share Amma with our friends and neighbors. Millions of people from all walks of life, from every religion, and from every continent have enjoyed meeting with Amma. Please share this invitation to meet with Amma with all of your friends. Attached is a pdf poster that you may forward to your friends etc. Complete information about the Cedar Rapids event is available at www.amma.org/tours. Please note that the main hotel (Double Tree) is now full but there are hotels near by with rooms available at the AMMA rate (book by June 3rd). Information about Amma and her many charitable activities, along with information about her other events in North America this summer can also be found at www.amma.org [end paste]
[FairfieldLife] John McCain Meets with Rebels
It doesn't seem right for him to visit these rebels without approval from the Obama administration. And, it does not appear wise to make promises to these rebels of American help in their struggles when the US cannot afford to get involved in any more wars. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/27/exclusive-john-mccain-slips-across-border-into-syria-meets-with-rebels.html?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailybeast%2Farticles+%28The+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles%29
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Jackson Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa That is hilarious! I just got back from Trader Joe's and am housecleaning for daughter's 13th birthday party - stopped to take a break and much to my surprise I see over 70 posts since this morning! Now I have an excuse not to vacuum for a few more minutes. Not that it matters to anyone here but I am supremely thankful to my friend Henry Patton the plumber (and yes he is related to Gen. George Patton) who came out yesterday - a 45 minute drive one way - to fix our plumbing that had gone on the fritz - my friends tell me he's a saint and he proved it last night for sure - and wasn't even gonna charge us anything, we had to insist on paying him. Ahh, life seems like crap when the plumbing backs up, then a real living saint comes and fixes it. Then we get to stock up on Trader Joe's stuff - I broke into the Dark Chocolate Truffle bar even before I buckled my seat belt. Get some Power Berries next time you’re at Trader Joe’s. Description of them here: http://www.bidontravel.com/blog/travel/sandia-trail/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed.
Wow! I would love to know the story behind that. What you say is quite an indictment of the Movement. From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed. From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 9:41 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Real tears here. Remembering, L.B. at Revelations Cafe Bookstore, April 2013: http://youtu.be/Us8rF5Q_F6g If the TM movement had a conscience, today would be designated a day of shame and apology. The TMO’s ostricisism of LB probably did it more harm than that of the many hundreds of others it has ostracized. His only crimes were honesty and courage. He had the courage to openly discuss issues that, if the TMO had welcomed and participated in the discussion, could have saved it from cultdom and relative obscurity. Instead it chose to slap him with a legal restraining order which banned him from campus for decades. In treating him and many others this way, the TMO has shot itself in the foot so many times that now it can barely walk.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arctic melting? Don't worry Avatars will save the world.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 05/27/2013 05:19 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Arctic temperatures are rising fast than expected: http://arctic-news.blogspot.nl/2013/03/huge-patches-of-warm-air-over-the-arctic.html These climate changes and what will happen to earth and people is my major non-people related worry in life and I am trying to just not think about it any more. It really is the fundamental, root issue for all of us - other than enlightenment, for some. Is there any genuine good news about this or scientists who think we can actually save things? Folks, listen up: humanity will be gone, gone destroyed. It will be ugly and is happening way faster than even the pessimists expected back in the early 2000's. We are in serious trouble here and have no where to escape. In a decade things are going to be a mess - we won't be here for the end days, but will witness some ugliness and fear coming very soon. As I say, I make an effort to avoid reading about it anymore - way too depressing. I just spent a weekend at a huge and famous garden (Longwood Gardens) while visiting mother in Pennsylvania. I got there early when the doors opened, and soaked up the quiet and green smells. The wind was blowing in the tops of huge trees and the sounds were amazing. I was all green and growing and thriving. Consciousness seemed conscious everywhere there. If I were retired, I would spend more time outside, away from big cities (which I also love). I don't want all this to be ruined. So, Bhairitu, send me some good news on this topic if you come across it. Humanity needs to focus on this pronto and make it our primary cause and support people working to save the earth. Scientists are my superheroes. If you really are that worried why not do something about it ? Take the train instead of driving around is a good start. You mean Maitreya isn't going to save the world? No, from where did you get that idea ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
Right after we walked through the door they told us they had sold out - it was on the top of our list! From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 3:51 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Jackson Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa That is hilarious! I just got back from Trader Joe's and am housecleaning for daughter's 13th birthday party - stopped to take a break and much to my surprise I see over 70 posts since this morning! Now I have an excuse not to vacuum for a few more minutes. Not that it matters to anyone here but I am supremely thankful to my friend Henry Patton the plumber (and yes he is related to Gen. George Patton) who came out yesterday - a 45 minute drive one way - to fix our plumbing that had gone on the fritz - my friends tell me he's a saint and he proved it last night for sure - and wasn't even gonna charge us anything, we had to insist on paying him. Ahh, life seems like crap when the plumbing backs up, then a real living saint comes and fixes it. Then we get to stock up on Trader Joe's stuff - I broke into the Dark Chocolate Truffle bar even before I buckled my seat belt. Get some Power Berries next time you’re at Trader Joe’s. Description of them here: http://www.bidontravel.com/blog/travel/sandia-trail/
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed.
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Jackson Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:54 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed. Wow! I would love to know the story behind that. What you say is quite an indictment of the Movement. LB once told me that the police told him that they had a literal stack of restraining orders that MUM had had issued against various people. Have to keep the barbarians outside the moat, you know. _ From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com mailto:r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of raunchydog Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 9:41 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Duveyoung no_reply@... mailto:no_reply@... wrote: Real tears here. Remembering, L.B. at Revelations Cafe Bookstore, April 2013: http://youtu.be/Us8rF5Q_F6g If the TM movement had a conscience, today would be designated a day of shame and apology. The TMO’s ostricisism of LB probably did it more harm than that of the many hundreds of others it has ostracized. His only crimes were honesty and courage. He had the courage to openly discuss issues that, if the TMO had welcomed and participated in the discussion, could have saved it from cultdom and relative obscurity. Instead it chose to slap him with a legal restraining order which banned him from campus for decades. In treating him and many others this way, the TMO has shot itself in the foot so many times that now it can barely walk.
[FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: For those (like me) who knew L.B. only from his FFL postings some years ago (or not even from those), this video will give you a good idea of why he was such a force of nature in the Fairfield meditating community--a public intellectual, as he styled himself with some diffidence, of towering integrity, great courage, deep compassion leavened with humor, and profound insight into the TM movement. I hope those who did have the good fortune to know him will post tributes and remembrances. We were students at MIU around the same time, 1976-1981 period, (with some gaps in between for me for courses and other things) We never were very close, and I wouldn't have regarded him as a friend. But he was always a presence, and seemed a bit of a loner. At that time, I always considered him mildly disaffected, and really felt that he aspired to be more of an intellectual than he actually was. But perhaps, like you, I saw that video at Revelations, and really was blown away by the sincerity, the insights, and the wonderful humor he possessed. To tell the truth, I watched the video at least two times to make sure I picked up on all the nuances. I saw that my initial evaluation was way off, and wish I could have connected more with him, at least on FFL. What a shame that a resource like that was treated so harshly by the TMO.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]
Doc, here's one of my favorite quotes from SoB and AofL, p. 238 on identification:...identification is not bondage. What is bondage is the inability to maintain Being together with identification. What is bondage is inability to maintain Being while indulging in experience and activity ...Identification is not bondage because freedom must be lived in the world, and living in the world entails identifying oneself with everything in it for the sake of experience and activity. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 7:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, that Planter's jingle comment makes me smile each time I read it, thanks. **Yeah, me too! I have endless storage in my mind, devoted to such things.:-) Here's a question: if the ego has expanded to cosmic level, which is what Maharishi explained, then what does it mean to be egocentric?! **Yes, I thought the same thing, in terms of the language I used, when I wrote that. Damn, you caught it! lol I was using 'egocentric' as a shorthand for the identification with the small self. A sense of self, or ego, must exist. Nothing wrong with Cosmic Ego. The difference comes with which ego we are identifying with, the small, egocentric one, or the Cosmic Ego, unbounded and universal. Remember MMY's talk on Identification, that when we gaze into a flower, we get lost in the flower, losing our identity in the flower? It is like that. There is no way to get *lost* in the identification of the small self, and still retain the awareness of Cosmic Ego. The two cannot co-exist. Anyway, I dug up that Michael Goodman quote about Brahman and also something more recent from Buck in the Dome. PS I like your analogy about being a billionaire but think that the whole idea that everyone is enlightened points to Maharishi's teaching that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. Meaning that from one perspective I'm sure everyone is already enlightened. And from another, not so much. A practical person entertains both ideas (-: **On the one hand, this statement that we are all enlightened, is true, in terms of everyone's potential. However, the way in which it is commonly used, is as a fiction. It is as if I handed you an avocado, and charged you $100,000 - $2 for the avocado, and $99,998 for the full-sized tree, residing latent in its seed. So as a Rah, Rah, feel-good statement, yeah, we are all enlightened. As a practicality, the tree is still within the avocado, so it only costs two bucks. Like the Absolute IS, Brahman is NOT. Brahman is not the Absolute. Brahman is not the relative. Brahman is not both of them together. Brahman is not neither of them. Brahman is The Knower. The Unified Field has made the senses turn outwards, Humans therefore look outwards, Not in to themselves, But occasionally a daring soul, Desiring un- boundedness, Has looked back And found Itself. -The Upanishads From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]  I think there is a stage of enlightenment wherein one realizes that one is indeed the small self and the Big Self at the same time. Hi Share, How is one both, at the same time, AND enlightened? Is it like the Planter's jingle, Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't!?? Seriously, I can accept that identification with the small self can occasionally be transcended, so that the seeker momentarily experiences a larger unbounded sense of self, the Big Self. But it is plainly impossible to carry both identities, being egocentric in one moment, and feeling universally expansive in another, and consider that poorly integrated state, Enlightenment. More like ignorance, with a few flashes of insight. Ask your heart. You know where its allegiance lies. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks, Doc, but I'm can't agree with you. I think there is a stage of enlightenment wherein one realizes that one is indeed the small self and the Big Self at the same time. OTOH, it's simply fun to talk about all this. I'm happy for people who are enlightened and sometimes I like them. I'm happy for enlightened teachers and sometimes I want to learn from them. And sometimes life wants me to learn from enlightened people and enlightened teachers whether I want to or not! What to do? (-: BTW, nnoozguru, I watched Kumare last night.ÂÂ
[FairfieldLife] Re: L.B. has passed.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: For those (like me) who knew L.B. only from his FFL postings some years ago (or not even from those), this video will give you a good idea of why he was such a force of nature in the Fairfield meditating community--a public intellectual, as he styled himself with some diffidence, of towering integrity, great courage, deep compassion leavened with humor, and profound insight into the TM movement. I hope those who did have the good fortune to know him will post tributes and remembrances. We were students at MIU around the same time, 1976-1981 period, Strange, I was there as a student at exactly the same time. Do you remember Curtis? I don't. I think we hung out with different people. Was Shriver a student at MIU then? (with some gaps in between for me for courses and other things) We never were very close, and I wouldn't have regarded him as a friend. But he was always a presence, and seemed a bit of a loner. At that time, I always considered him mildly disaffected, and really felt that he aspired to be more of an intellectual than he actually was. But perhaps, like you, I saw that video at Revelations, and really was blown away by the sincerity, the insights, and the wonderful humor he possessed. To tell the truth, I watched the video at least two times to make sure I picked up on all the nuances. I saw that my initial evaluation was way off, and wish I could have connected more with him, at least on FFL. What a shame that a resource like that was treated so harshly by the TMO.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gluten free diet and siddhis!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: noozguru, thanks for the info about how to avoid developing an intolerance. I'd forgotten about that and can have a tendency to not have enough variety in my diet. A chiropractor once told me that if you eat something 3 days in a row, you automatically become allergic to it! What is that 'chiropractor' doing now? Hope you didn't let them crack your neck or any other useful body part. Sounds like a real winner in the I-make-up-stupid-things-to-see-who-believes-me category. Come to think of it, the two worst doctors I ever experienced lived in FF; one was a non-meditator and one was a long term meditator. Both wacko. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Gluten free diet and siddhis!  Conventional medicine says only a very small percentage of the population suffers from gluten intolerance while some naturopaths have it as high as 60%. The truth is probably somewhere in between. A gluten free is not that hard to do if one wants to try it. I tried some gluten free muffins and bagels a couple weeks back because they were on sale at what you might pay for muffins and bagels regularly. I don't think I'm in the percentage that has the problem though. But then I do eat lots of corn products, rice pastas and rice. It's always good to mix things up a bit just to avoid developing an intolerance. On 05/25/2013 07:58 AM, Share Long wrote: That's great carde, what other benefits have you noticed? noozguru, you've probably said before, but I'll ask anyway: what do you think of the whole gluten free trend? thanks From: card cardemaister@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Gluten free diet and siddhis! Highly recommend most of us to try gluten free diet at least for a couple of days! (No wheat, rye or, Lawd have mercy, barley!?) It's way weird but after I've been on that diet for a couple of weeks now, also the other saMyama-s (not just YF) seem to have some effect, or stuff! Well, mainly that's prolly due to my being able to concentrate (do dhaaraNaa*) better, because the constant irritation of my lungs has diminished, I'd say at least by 90 percent! *saMyamaH = dhaaraNaa + dhyaanam + samaadhiH (trayam [(those) three] ekatra: saMyamaH)
[FairfieldLife] David Lynch: Meditation, Creativity, Peace QA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPJoZ4w6w70
[FairfieldLife] Meditation, Creativity, Peace - David Lynch 16 Country Tour Documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG4XPk8runI
[FairfieldLife] Good day and anus!
'Good day!' in Swedish is 'god dag' (~good duhg). As might happen perhaps even in most of the natural languages of this planet, pronunciation of frequently used expressions becomes lazier, so to speak. That's happened to 'god dag', too! So, perhaps the most common pronunciation is, in phonetic spelling 'gudaa' (~ goo-duh). As it happens, 'guda' in Sanskrit means 'anus', etc! LoL and go figure!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arctic melting? Don't worry Avatars will save the world.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 05/27/2013 05:19 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Arctic temperatures are rising fast than expected: http://arctic-news.blogspot.nl/2013/03/huge-patches-of-warm-air-over-the-arctic.html These climate changes and what will happen to earth and people is my major non-people related worry in life and I am trying to just not think about it any more. It really is the fundamental, root issue for all of us - other than enlightenment, for some. Is there any genuine good news about this or scientists who think we can actually save things? Folks, listen up: humanity will be gone, gone destroyed. It will be ugly and is happening way faster than even the pessimists expected back in the early 2000's. We are in serious trouble here and have no where to escape. In a decade things are going to be a mess - we won't be here for the end days, but will witness some ugliness and fear coming very soon. As I say, I make an effort to avoid reading about it anymore - way too depressing. I just spent a weekend at a huge and famous garden (Longwood Gardens) while visiting mother in Pennsylvania. I got there early when the doors opened, and soaked up the quiet and green smells. The wind was blowing in the tops of huge trees and the sounds were amazing. I was all green and growing and thriving. Consciousness seemed conscious everywhere there. If I were retired, I would spend more time outside, away from big cities (which I also love). I don't want all this to be ruined. So, Bhairitu, send me some good news on this topic if you come across it. Humanity needs to focus on this pronto and make it our primary cause and support people working to save the earth. Scientists are my superheroes. If you really are that worried why not do something about it ? Take the train instead of driving around is a good start. You mean Maitreya isn't going to save the world? No, from where did you get that idea ? The Masters and the Hierarchy will lead and inspire but the principle of not infringing the free will of humanity is sacred. Humanity must save itself and the planet, it must be a willed process. It's surpising Bhairitu didn't get this very basic point.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good day and anus!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: 'Good day!' in Swedish is 'god dag' (~good duhg). As might happen perhaps even in most of the natural languages of this planet, pronunciation of frequently used expressions becomes lazier, so to speak. That's happened to 'god dag', too! So, perhaps the most common pronunciation is, in phonetic spelling 'gudaa' (~ goo-duh). As it happens, 'guda' in Sanskrit means 'anus', etc! LoL and go figure! It appears that Sanskrit has an eyebrow-raising number of words for anus: http://tinyurl.com/prcyhug Hmmm... what are they trying to tell us?
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I must say I am a bit sceptical about the Amma article - I read every word and I wonder if the author had some bias for her, you know like the TM shills who write pro-TM articles? You might like this article better, then: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-hugging-saint-20120816
