date:20131101

Beautiful!  

Dipavali, or Diwali, is a festival celebrated by all Hindus to commemorate Lord 
Rama and his wife, Sita’s return to Ayodhya after his 14-year exile. 

And the TMO claims this crap isn't HInduism?

Ah, and we see that the sidhas get to hang with Big Bopper Bevan, whilst the 
lowly meditators have to make do with Keith Wallace - why create separation? 
Oh, I forgot, we must have a tightly stratified hierarchy as the Hindus do, as 
is our tradition.

And the Hindu priests will be performing a Hindu sacrifice to appease the 
goddess of prosperity, but TM is absolutely non-religious. 

On Thu, 10/31/13, Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Dipavali Celebrations including the Maharishi 
Vedic Pandits
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, October 31, 2013, 9:39 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Forwarded
 from: Eloise
 Raymond eraym...@globalpeaceinitiative.org
 Date:
 October
 31, 2013 4:27:26 PM CDT
 
 
 
 
 
 Dipavali Celebrations including the Maharishi Vedic
 Pandits
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Dear Friends of the Maharishi Vedic
 Pandits,We want to make sure that you have seen the
 announcement about the Dipavali celebrations this weekend.
 Please note that the Maharishi Vedic Pandits will be coming
 to the Dome on Sunday afternoon. We hope you will be able to
 come and enjoy the auspicious celebration of Mahalakshmi.
 Jai Guru Dev,Eloise and
 SandyCELEBRATING DHANVANTARI DAY, THE DAY OF
 PERFECT HEALTHEnlivening the aspect of
 nature’s intelligence responsible for the health of the
 universe 
 
 Friday night, November 1, 8:00 p.m.
 
 Dalby Hall
 
 Hosted by Dr. Robert Keith Wallace and Dr. Paul
 Morehead
 Maharishi’s address on Dhanvantari Day 
 CELEBRATING TOTAL
 KNOWLEDGEOn this special day of Hanuman
 Jayanti, enlivening the value of Total Knowledge—Brahm
 Vidya 
 
 Saturday afternoon, November 2, 1:30
 p.m.
 
 For Sidhas – Dalby
 Hall, With Dr. Bevan Morris and Dr. Doug Birx and
 Dr. Linda Birx (please bring your current program
 badge)
 For Meditators –
 Festival Hall (upstairs in the Argiro Student
 Center) with Dr. Keith Wallace, featuring a special
 Maharishi tape followed by discussion and a group
 meditation
 CELEBRATING DIPAVALI,
 THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTSEnlivening
 prosperity, good fortune, and happiness in our lives
 
 With the Maharishi
 Vedic Pandits performing the
 Mahalakshmi Puja 
 
 Sunday afternoon, November 3, 1:00–4:30 p.m.
 (doors open at 12:40)
 
 Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome
 
 Bring your favorite treats for all to enjoy, also fresh
 flower blossoms and 2-3 whole washed organic fruits
 Help support the Maharishi Vedic Pandits in our
 community. A donation of any size is greatly appreciated.
 Checks are payable to BSF (Brahmananda Saraswati
 Foundation), online donations can be made at http://www.vedicpandits.org.
 
 Please bring your current program badge or MUM
 student ID. For other practitioners of the Transcendental
 Meditation program, contact the Invincible America
 Department 641-472-1212 or email: iad...@mum.edu.jai
 Guru Dev

[FairfieldLife] TM and Medicine

You reckon David Lynch and company will ever publicize any of this?

Guiding Principles
:
o
We are not going to take help from medical Drs.as medical professionals give
poison. So don’t engage any medical Drs. for anything — absolutely whatever it
is — even if they are in our Movement family
o
Raja Raam’s discovery shows us that without handling consciousness there
is no hope of handling health -- there will never be total health. And we have 
the
programs for handling consciousness.
o
Hold onto the fact that we are the supreme authorities on health — we know how 
to create perfect health — we are challenging all governments in world

RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The FFL Neganauts

2013-11-01 Thread dhamiltony2k5

Thus, the Age of Science, which has sometimes seemed to take man far away from 
nature, has found its ultimate achievement Transcendental Meditation, a method 
for establishing man's mind, heart and behavior deep within the source of 
nature's impulses within himself. Rapidly and inevitable Transcendental 
Meditation is raising the scientific age to be the Age of Enlightenment. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  Look, it is becoming clear that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was one of the larger 
cultural revolutionaries of the 20 Century who angled to bring affective broad 
cultural change to all humanity. In his case ranking as revolutionary, his 
fusing western science with old systems of human spirituality he waged a 
remarkable broad fronted multiple prong impact on human condition in his 
lifetime; a revolutionary in that he tried, expected, to affected change in the 
order of everything cultural through his development of and propulsion in 
revolutionary action a fusing the practice and thinking of the modern science 
of Unified Field theory with a practice of total spiritual condition of human 
life. His impact was as broad as it was huge in human culture everywhere.
 In Awe of the Revolution,
 -Buck in the Dome 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  Michael Jackson sez:
 
so prove it - lets see the radical
change -  
 
 
 Meditation [TM] : clinically recommended [ physicians should be recommending 
and prescribing as a protocol of good physician's clinical practice] meditation 
as primary healthcare practice by AMA.
 
 
 Son, this is revolutionary. We come a long way, baby.
 -Buck in the Dome   
 


  Buck
 

 This post of yours:
 
Dear Shit-for-Brains;

This is about radical spiritual transformation

looking to affect scientific revolutionary evolutionary change.

We are about the revolutionary positive power for change

in the transcendental deep meditation of the Unified Field. Not just some 
altruism.

It is the application of the science of natural law, the experience of the 
divine of nature in the human form. 

-Buck 

is one of the best posts I've read on FFL in many years. Your salutation is the 
icing on the cake and really made me laugh.

-K 

 

  [ Buck gets to say things in a way others can't. ]
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 as to what my brains are composed of, I have no power over that - they are 
what the Unified Field gave me.
 
 O
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The FFL Neganauts
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, October 30, 2013, 2:46 AM
 

 
  ..Light
 of the Himalayas
 
 I
 don't give a shit what you or he thinks or is impressed
 by and if you
 had any sense at all, you would realize one doesn't need
 knowledge
 of mantra yoga to know the deal on this, one only need know
 cons and
 con artists when one sees or hears
 one. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
  MJ
 writes:
 This
 is complete nonsense - Marshy said this to differentiate
 what he
 taught from what was commonly available so he could
 hood-wink people
 into believing he had a superior product. He continued to
 use the
 very same scam into his dotage with his lies about south
 facing
 entrance being inimical to human life. Those two things and
 every
 thing else in between he claimed to have the superior
 product - and
 that's what they were and are product to be
 sold. 
 

 
 Dear
 Shit-for-Brains;
 
 This
 is about radical spiritual
 transformation
 looking
 to affect scientific revolutionary evolutionary
 change.
 We
 are about the revolutionary positive power for
 change
 in
 the transcendental deep meditation of the Unified Field. 
 Not just
 some altruism.
 It
 is the application of the science of natural law, the
 experience of
 the divine of nature in the human form. 
 
 -Buck  
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 In
 40 years of working with Maharishi it was always obvious to
 me that
 he decided things from the level of his towering intellect
 and his
 cosmic independence of thought.  Suggestions
 which any of
 us might have made, whatever they were, were judged against
 a
 universal, timeless, limitless
 framework.  
 
 
 The
 fundamental thing we need to bear in mind is that this (our)
 movement
 belongs to Maharishi, lock, stock and barrel.  From the
 level of
 Brahman Consciousness he owns the knowledge and he owns the
 administrative policies.  
 
 
 
 What
 a bullshit post ... 
 
 It means what I want it to
 mean! 
 
 
 
 
 Well
 it certainly is what It is. 
 
 I
 am sorry that It is not your
 experience.
 -Buck  
 
 
 The

[FairfieldLife] Out to Lunch

 Licensed Massage Therapists (LMT)∞

LMT’s need to learn Transcendental Meditation technique first. It’s for their 
personal enlightenment and world peace 

If LMT does not want to start TM then we do not take them.
We can help them with their Transcendental Meditation fee by delaying payment 
of ½ or 1-3 months but not for too long.
∞
2 hours of TM and TM-Sidhi program is a must for Sidha LMTs also. Tell them 
that their arms will be softer.
∞
We need to find Licensed Massage Therapists. First look on your state home page 
for School of Massage Therapy. This will list requirements for your state.
∞
Contact Schools of Massage Therapy Training in your area. They have Placement 
Officers who will put up posters for you or send you resumes. These schools 
usually graduate a new class every three months.
∞
There is usually a State Massage Association of some kind. Be in touch with the 
local chapter, and get to know them. They’ll send you bulletin e-mails or give 
you a mailing list
∞
We should have a copy of the LMTs’ license on file.
∞
Place ads offering positions in your Spa.
∞
Raja Rogers says we should pay on average $15/hour guaranteed for 30hrs/week 
and if they work up to 40 hours we pay by the hour
∞
LMT’s should sign non-disclosure form

Any LMT who has any experience AT ALL would laugh in someone's face who told 
them their meditation will make their arms softer. Massage therapy is tough 
work, the LMT needs strong tough arms, not soft arms.  In addition any LMT 
worth a damn should be making at least 30 - 40 dollars an hour, unless they are 
fresh out of school - wonder how much the TM spas will charge the client for 
the hour?
∞
Ask LMT to sign on for a year at least and this will minimize training time and 
expense

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Helplessly Hoping

The very first 'supergroup' was Cream in 1966 with Eric Clapton, Ginger 
Baker and Jack Bruce, followed by Al Kooper, Mike Bloomfield and Stephen 
which produced the album called 'Super Sessions' in 1969.


On 11/1/2013 2:53 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

 Yep, good memories, good memorieshere is an acoustic
 concert of the three of them. Just give up and listen to the
 whole concert.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjbq6K2ziDQ

Excellent. Great find.

Our friend Joe wrote on another forum that he just saw
CSNY in San Francisco a few days ago, and they nailed
it there, too. For some people, the bodies get older but
the voices don't. The first Supergroup, and they're
still pretty super.


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  This song changed my life fifty years ago.
 
  I guess I'm not the only old fart who feels that way about it:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I4pIULFGLI 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I4pIULFGLI


 Still tripping on Crosby, Stills and Nash after discovering
 this treasure, I thought I'd post the song that started it all.

 As I remember the story, Steven wrote the song and taught
 it to David. They worked on harmonies for it, but David
 always thought that it needed a third voice.

 So they go over to Joni Mitchell's house, and there they
 meet for the first time this guy from England who they
 really only know as the voice of The Hollies. And things
 progress and get wild and wooly the way things got back
 in those days of Laurel Canyon house parties, and at
 some point Steven and David start to sing Helplessly
 Hoping, which of course no one has heard before.

 On the second verse, David heard Graham Nash join
 in, singing the *exact* third harmony part he had
 written in his head. And the rest is history.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcc 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcc 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcc

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras

More meat on the bone? Get a grip, Anne, he said he was already doing
puja to a 'Shiva Lingam'. Whatever; it doesn't seem to be improving his
disposition very much. Go figure.

On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:

What a fucking idiot you are.

When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and
sage advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then

wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got

to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down

low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam

surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms.

Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana
Yidam and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula.

He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was
2005. He asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I
told him I didn't do a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired
... kamya

ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ...

Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers Sankhya
to be very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen.

All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool.

What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll.

ideas might be the operative word here. I don't have the time or the
disposition for living and practicing ideas. I am far too busy living
life. Try it, you might find it has lots more meat on the bone.

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

emptybill:

I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam.

So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra
lingham, at the same time you're trying to practice under a
Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is Vaj when we need him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra

Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated

by Sanjukta Gupta.

And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the Laksmi
Tantra? I'm not even interested in Hindu Tantrism - my
interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you speak any Tibetan?

http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta

http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta/dp/8120817346/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1383220372sr=1-1keywords=Sanjukta+Gupta

On 10/30/2013 8:15 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:

Here Here. There There.
Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll.

Hey Troll! Me too ...
I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam.
It's Tantric ... asshole.

It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that.
Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by
Sanjukta Gupta.

Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone
that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot.

You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims.

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...
mailto:noozguru@... wrote:

You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric.
I am. KMA.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Helplessly Hoping

2013-11-01 Thread dhamiltony2k5

Nailed it? Om come on. Little groove anymore. Tired bunch of retired guys 
turning some concert money. They sounds the same, except boring and old now. 
They should just leave it on the album. Sure you like the nostalgic of a life 
once lived. Seems these coffee shop guys did not never record with Muscle 
Shoals or forgot they ever did.
 http://www.magpictures.com/muscleshoals/ 
http://www.magpictures.com/muscleshoals/
 

 -Buck 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
 
 Yep, good memories, good memorieshere is an acoustic 
 concert of the three of them. Just give up and listen to the 
 whole concert. 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjbq6K2ziDQ 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjbq6K2ziDQ  

 Excellent. Great find. 

Our friend Joe wrote on another forum that he just saw
CSNY in San Francisco a few days ago, and they nailed
it there, too. For some people, the bodies get older but
the voices don't. The first Supergroup, and they're
still pretty super.


  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: 
  
  This song changed my life fifty years ago. 
  
  I guess I'm not the only old fart who feels that way about it: 
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I4pIULFGLI 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I4pIULFGLI 
 
 Still tripping on Crosby, Stills and Nash after discovering 
 this treasure, I thought I'd post the song that started it all. 
 
 As I remember the story, Steven wrote the song and taught 
 it to David. They worked on harmonies for it, but David 
 always thought that it needed a third voice. 
 
 So they go over to Joni Mitchell's house, and there they 
 meet for the first time this guy from England who they 
 really only know as the voice of The Hollies. And things 
 progress and get wild and wooly the way things got back 
 in those days of Laurel Canyon house parties, and at 
 some point Steven and David start to sing Helplessly 
 Hoping, which of course no one has heard before. 
 
 On the second verse, David heard Graham Nash join 
 in, singing the *exact* third harmony part he had 
 written in his head. And the rest is history. 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcc 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcc
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcc

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Helplessly Hoping

Pay attention, Buck. The video Emily posted (below) of the Acoustic Concert is 
from more than two decades ago. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Nailed it? Om come on. Little groove anymore. Tired bunch of retired guys 
turning some concert money. They sounds the same, except boring and old now. 
They should just leave it on the album. Sure you like the nostalgic of a life 
once lived. Seems these coffee shop guys did not never record with Muscle 
Shoals or forgot they ever did.
 http://www.magpictures.com/muscleshoals/ 
http://www.magpictures.com/muscleshoals/
 

 -Buck 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
 
 Yep, good memories, good memorieshere is an acoustic 
 concert of the three of them. Just give up and listen to the 
 whole concert. 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjbq6K2ziDQ 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjbq6K2ziDQ  

 Excellent. Great find. 

Our friend Joe wrote on another forum that he just saw
CSNY in San Francisco a few days ago, and they nailed
it there, too. For some people, the bodies get older but
the voices don't. The first Supergroup, and they're
still pretty super.


  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: 
  
  This song changed my life fifty years ago. 
  
  I guess I'm not the only old fart who feels that way about it: 
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I4pIULFGLI 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I4pIULFGLI 
 
 Still tripping on Crosby, Stills and Nash after discovering 
 this treasure, I thought I'd post the song that started it all. 
 
 As I remember the story, Steven wrote the song and taught 
 it to David. They worked on harmonies for it, but David 
 always thought that it needed a third voice. 
 
 So they go over to Joni Mitchell's house, and there they 
 meet for the first time this guy from England who they 
 really only know as the voice of The Hollies. And things 
 progress and get wild and wooly the way things got back 
 in those days of Laurel Canyon house parties, and at 
 some point Steven and David start to sing Helplessly 
 Hoping, which of course no one has heard before. 
 
 On the second verse, David heard Graham Nash join 
 in, singing the *exact* third harmony part he had 
 written in his head. And the rest is history. 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcc 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcc
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcc

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 More meat on the bone? Get a grip, Anne, he said he was already doing puja to 
a 'Shiva Lingam'. Whatever; it doesn't seem to be improving his disposition 
very much. Go figure.
 

 First of all my name is ANN. Secondly, I like your wordplay on the whole 
lingam/bone(er) thing. The addition of the term get a grip finishes off the 
double entendre nicely. 
 
 On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 

 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
 What a fucking idiot you are. 
 
 
 When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and sage advice 
for my daughter, She like him very much. He then 
 
 wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got 
 
 to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down
 low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam 
 
 surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms.
 Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana Yidam and 
Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula. 
 
 
 
 He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was 2005. He 
asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I told him I didn't do 
a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired ... kamya
 ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ... 
 
 Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers Sankhya to be 
very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen. 
 
 
 
 All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool.
 
 What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll. 
 
 
 ideas might be the operative word here. I don't have the time or the 
disposition for living and practicing ideas. I am far too busy living life. Try 
it, you might find it has lots more meat on the bone.
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
 emptybill:
  I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam.
 
 So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra lingham, at the 
same time you're trying to practice under a Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is 
Vaj when we need him?
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra
 
  Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta 
  Gupta. 
 And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the Laksmi Tantra? I'm not 
even interested in Hindu Tantrism - my interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you 
speak any Tibetan?
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta
 
 On 10/30/2013 8:15 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
   Here Here. There There. 
 Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll. 
 
 Hey Troll! Me too ...
 I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam.
 It's Tantric ... asshole.
 
 It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that.
 Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta 
Gupta. 
 
 Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone 
 that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot.
 
 You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims.
 
 
  
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote:
 
 You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric.  I am.  
KMA.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras

You made my day, Ann! Now if we can just get emptybill to improve his
disposition. LoL!

On 11/1/2013 8:45 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

More meat on the bone? Get a grip, Anne, he said he was already doing
puja to a 'Shiva Lingam'. Whatever; it doesn't seem to be improving
his disposition very much. Go figure.

First of all my name is ANN. Secondly, I like your wordplay on the
whole lingam/bone(er) thing. The addition of the term get a grip
finishes off the double entendre nicely.

On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, awoelflebater@...
mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@...
mailto:emptybill@... wrote:

What a fucking idiot you are.

When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and
sage advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then

wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got

to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down

low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam

surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms.

Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana
Yidam and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula.

ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ...

Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers
Sankhya to be very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen.

All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool.

What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll.

ideas might be the operative word here. I don't have the time or
the disposition for living and practicing ideas. I am far too busy
living life. Try it, you might find it has lots more meat on the bone.

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@...
mailto:punditster@... wrote:

emptybill:

I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam.

So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra
lingham, at the same time you're trying to practice under a
Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is Vaj when we need him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra

Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated

by Sanjukta Gupta.

And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the
Laksmi Tantra? I'm not even interested in Hindu Tantrism - my
interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you speak any Tibetan?

http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta

http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta/dp/8120817346/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1383220372sr=1-1keywords=Sanjukta+Gupta

On 10/30/2013 8:15 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@...
wrote:

Here Here. There There.
Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll.

Hey Troll! Me too ...
I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam.
It's Tantric ... asshole.

It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that.
Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by
Sanjukta Gupta.

Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone
that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot.

You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims.

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...
mailto:noozguru@... wrote:

You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric.
I am. KMA.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Fwd: Dipavali Celebrations including the Maharishi Vedic Pandits

 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:

 Beautiful! 
 
 Dipavali, or Diwali, is a festival celebrated by all Hindus to commemorate 
Lord Rama and his wife, Sita’s return to Ayodhya after his 14-year exile. 
 
 And the TMO claims this crap isn't HInduism?
 
 Ah, and we see that the sidhas get to hang with Big Bopper Bevan, whilst the 
lowly meditators have to make do with Keith Wallace - why create separation? 
Oh, I forgot, we must have a tightly stratified hierarchy as the Hindus do, as 
is our tradition.
 
 And the Hindu priests will be performing a Hindu sacrifice to appease the 
goddess of prosperity, but TM is absolutely non-religious. 
 

 Shall we just say TM appears to embrace some cultural similarities to those 
recognized and celebrated by India. Incorporating cultural diversity within 
North American living is a good thing, no? After all, what would we all do 
without Taco Bell?
 
 On Thu, 10/31/13, Dick Mays dickmays@... mailto:dickmays@... wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Dipavali Celebrations including the Maharishi 
Vedic Pandits
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, October 31, 2013, 9:39 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Forwarded
 from: Eloise
 Raymond eraymond@... mailto:eraymond@...
 Date:
 October
 31, 2013 4:27:26 PM CDT
 
 
 
 
 
 Dipavali Celebrations including the Maharishi Vedic
 Pandits
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Dear Friends of the Maharishi Vedic
 Pandits,We want to make sure that you have seen the
 announcement about the Dipavali celebrations this weekend.
 Please note that the Maharishi Vedic Pandits will be coming
 to the Dome on Sunday afternoon. We hope you will be able to
 come and enjoy the auspicious celebration of Mahalakshmi.
 Jai Guru Dev,Eloise and
 SandyCELEBRATING DHANVANTARI DAY, THE DAY OF
 PERFECT HEALTHEnlivening the aspect of
 nature’s intelligence responsible for the health of the
 universe 
 
 Friday night, November 1, 8:00 p.m.
 
 Dalby Hall
 
 Hosted by Dr. Robert Keith Wallace and Dr. Paul
 Morehead
 Maharishi’s address on Dhanvantari Day 
 CELEBRATING TOTAL
 KNOWLEDGEOn this special day of Hanuman
 Jayanti, enlivening the value of Total Knowledge—Brahm
 Vidya 
 
 Saturday afternoon, November 2, 1:30
 p.m.
 
 For Sidhas – Dalby
 Hall, With Dr. Bevan Morris and Dr. Doug Birx and
 Dr. Linda Birx (please bring your current program
 badge)
 For Meditators –
 Festival Hall (upstairs in the Argiro Student
 Center) with Dr. Keith Wallace, featuring a special
 Maharishi tape followed by discussion and a group
 meditation
 CELEBRATING DIPAVALI,
 THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTSEnlivening
 prosperity, good fortune, and happiness in our lives
 
 With the Maharishi
 Vedic Pandits performing the
 Mahalakshmi Puja 
 
 Sunday afternoon, November 3, 1:00–4:30 p.m.
 (doors open at 12:40)
 
 Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome
 
 Bring your favorite treats for all to enjoy, also fresh
 flower blossoms and 2-3 whole washed organic fruits
 Help support the Maharishi Vedic Pandits in our
 community. A donation of any size is greatly appreciated.
 Checks are payable to BSF (Brahmananda Saraswati
 Foundation), online donations can be made at http://www.vedicpandits.org. 
http://www.vedicpandits.org.
 
 Please bring your current program badge or MUM
 student ID. For other practitioners of the Transcendental
 Meditation program, contact the Invincible America
 Department 641-472-1212 or email: iadept@... mailto:iadept@...
 Guru Dev

[FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras

 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 You made my day, Ann! Now if we can just get emptybill to improve his 
disposition. LoL!
 

 Perhaps someone should get a grip on his Shiva implement...that's usually good 
for a momentary burst of bliss.
 
 On 11/1/2013 8:45 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 More meat on the bone? Get a grip, Anne, he said he was already doing puja to 
a 'Shiva Lingam'. Whatever; it doesn't seem to be improving his disposition 
very much. Go figure.
 
 
 First of all my name is ANN. Secondly, I like your wordplay on the whole 
lingam/bone(er) thing. The addition of the term get a grip finishes off the 
double entendre nicely. 
 
 On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 

 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
 What a fucking idiot you are. 
 
 
 When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and sage advice 
for my daughter, She like him very much. He then 
 
 wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got 
 
 to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down
 low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam 
 
 surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms.
 Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana Yidam and 
Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula. 
 
 
 
 He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was 2005. He 
asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I told him I didn't do 
a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired ... kamya
 ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ... 
 
 Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers Sankhya to be 
very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen. 
 
 
 
 All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool.
 
 What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll. 
 
 
 ideas might be the operative word here. I don't have the time or the 
disposition for living and practicing ideas. I am far too busy living life. Try 
it, you might find it has lots more meat on the bone.
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
 emptybill:
  I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam.
 
 So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra lingham, at the 
same time you're trying to practice under a Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is 
Vaj when we need him?
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra
 
  Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta 
  Gupta. 
 And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the Laksmi Tantra? I'm not 
even interested in Hindu Tantrism - my interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you 
speak any Tibetan?
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta
 
 On 10/30/2013 8:15 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
   Here Here. There There. 
 Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll. 
 
 Hey Troll! Me too ...
 I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam.
 It's Tantric ... asshole.
 
 It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that.
 Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta 
Gupta. 
 
 Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone 
 that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot.
 
 You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims.
 
 
  
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote:
 
 You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric.  I am.  
KMA.

Re: [FairfieldLife] NBA Finals, Game 7, as seen by a Brit

Season opener: Spurs 101, Grizzlies 94. The tiny baby is Tony Parker, 
San Antonio Spurs Point Guard and France's greatest athlete ever. LoL!


The San Antonio Spurs' point guard spent a big chunk of his summer in 
Europe leading his native France to its first Euroleague Championship, 
knocking off Spain and Lithuania to capture the title on Sept. 22. That 
championship, and being named France's greatest athlete ever in a poll 
conducted by L'Equipe...


Spurs' Tony Parker sets sights on NBA title
San Antonio Express-News:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/Spurs-Tony-Parker 
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/article/Spurs-Tony-Parker-sets-sights-on-NBA-title-4945576.php


The benefits of this embrace of intercontinental basketball have been 
clear: four championships won since 1999 with fluid movement, selfless 
passing and insistent defense...


'Spurs Stay Consistent by Thinking Globally'
New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/15/sports/basketball/spurs 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/15/sports/basketball/spurs-stay-consistent-by-thinking-globally.html?_r=0


On 10/29/2013 9:32 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

Dear God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxYikubciDE

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

Oh come on dude. If you like your insurance , you can keep it, period. Just 
because the administration knew in '10 that 93 million would probably lose it, 
well that's just a *glitch*.

From: emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

Yeah, I think we had this conversation recently and several nasty 
comments were posted by Judy and Emily about Share making this same 
point. Go figure.


...both told me I should be drinking up to three litres of liquid a day 
for my body to function at its best.


On 10/31/2013 10:54 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny


Just another phoney, made up scandal, right?

On 11/1/2013 9:35 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Oh come on dude. If you like your insurance , you can keep it, period. 
Just because the administration knew in '10 that 93 million would 
probably lose it, well that's just a *glitch*.


*From:* emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:15 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny
alt

Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

2013-11-01 Thread Share Long

Yeah, Richard, that was definitely weird. Judy had always been so friendly 
before that!





On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:41 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
  
Yeah, I think we had this conversation recently and several nasty comments were 
posted by Judy and Emily about Share making this same point. Go figure.

...both told me I should be drinking up to three litres of liquid
  a day for my body to function at its best.

On 10/31/2013 10:54 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fwd: Dipavali Celebrations including the Maharishi Vedic Pandits

Damn Ann! You nailed it! TM is the Taco Bell of meditation techniques!

On Fri, 11/1/13, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fwd: Dipavali Celebrations including the 
Maharishi Vedic Pandits
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, November 1, 2013, 1:52 PM

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@...
 wrote:

 Beautiful!  

 Dipavali, or Diwali, is a festival celebrated by all Hindus
 to commemorate Lord Rama and his wife, Sita’s return to
 Ayodhya after his 14-year exile. 

 And the TMO claims this crap isn't HInduism?

 Ah, and we see that the sidhas get to hang with Big Bopper
 Bevan, whilst the lowly meditators have to make do with
 Keith Wallace - why create separation? Oh, I forgot, we must
 have a tightly stratified hierarchy as the Hindus do, as is
 our tradition.

 And the Hindu priests will be performing a Hindu sacrifice
 to appease the goddess of prosperity, but TM is absolutely
 non-religious. 
 Shall we just say TM appears
 to embrace some cultural similarities to those recognized
 and celebrated by India. Incorporating cultural diversity
 within North American living is a good thing, no? After all,
 what would we all do without Taco Bell?

  On Thu, 10/31/13, Dick Mays dickmays@... wrote:

  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Dipavali Celebrations
 including the Maharishi Vedic Pandits

  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

  Date: Thursday, October 31, 2013, 9:39 PM

Forwarded

  from: Eloise

  Raymond eraymond@...

  Date:

  October

  31, 2013 4:27:26 PM CDT

  Dipavali Celebrations including the Maharishi Vedic

  Pandits

  Dear Friends of the Maharishi Vedic

  Pandits,We want to make sure that you have seen the

  announcement about the Dipavali celebrations this weekend.

  Please note that the Maharishi Vedic Pandits will be
 coming

  to the Dome on Sunday afternoon. We hope you will be able
 to

  come and enjoy the auspicious celebration of Mahalakshmi.

  Jai Guru Dev,Eloise and

  SandyCELEBRATING DHANVANTARI DAY, THE DAY OF

  PERFECT HEALTHEnlivening the aspect of

  nature’s intelligence responsible for the health of the

  universe 

  Friday night, November 1, 8:00 p.m.

  Dalby Hall

  Hosted by Dr. Robert Keith Wallace and Dr. Paul

  Morehead

  Maharishi’s address on Dhanvantari Day 

  CELEBRATING TOTAL

  KNOWLEDGEOn this special day of Hanuman

  Jayanti, enlivening the value of Total Knowledge—Brahm

  Vidya 

  Saturday afternoon, November 2, 1:30

  p.m.

  For Sidhas – Dalby

  Hall, With Dr. Bevan Morris and Dr. Doug Birx and

  Dr. Linda Birx (please bring your current program

  badge)

  For Meditators –

  Festival Hall (upstairs in the Argiro Student

  Center) with Dr. Keith Wallace, featuring a special

  Maharishi tape followed by discussion and a group

  meditation

  CELEBRATING DIPAVALI,

  THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTSEnlivening

  prosperity, good fortune, and happiness in our lives

  With the Maharishi

  Vedic Pandits performing the

  Mahalakshmi Puja 

  Sunday afternoon, November 3, 1:00–4:30 p.m.

  (doors open at 12:40)

  Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome

  Bring your favorite treats for all to enjoy, also fresh

  flower blossoms and 2-3 whole washed organic fruits

  Help support the Maharishi Vedic Pandits in our

  community. A donation of any size is greatly appreciated.

  Checks are payable to BSF (Brahmananda Saraswati

  Foundation), online donations can be made at http://www.vedicpandits.org.

  Please bring your current program badge or MUM

  student ID. For other practitioners of the Transcendental

  Meditation program, contact the Invincible America

  Department 641-472-1212 or email: iadept@...

  Guru Dev

Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

It is really strange behavior to say the least. Judy is a real case, and
I'm not the first person to note that she can be very disagreeable.

WARNING: Don't ever suggest that Hillary Clinton is not a fit candidate
to be the next U.S. President!

So, I probably posted hundreds of on-topic posts to a.m.t. on Usenet,
(some of which I've updated and posted to FFL), over a period of about
five years starting in 1999, without getting a single response from
Judy. Then, in about 2001, a few days after I posted a message calling
into question Judy's claim that Bush lied about the reason the U.S.
invaded Iraq, I started getting all kinds of nasty messages from Judy.
She went just about ape-shit, calling me a troll and a scumbag and a
liar. She encouraged everyone on the list to shun me and has been doing
so almost every week since then - for over ten years! Apparently Judy
has some influence over the Minions, Pips and Mean Girls on FFL but she
doesn't seem to be getting the best of you. Keep up the good work

http://www.rwilliams.us/usenet/archives.htm
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm

Has anyone else in the group noticed that Judy is picking on Share?
While my beef with Judy may have some substance, Share seems like a
pretty decent person who just likes to talk with people. Regardless of
what Judy has said about me, I find her antagonism toward Share to be
very mean-spirited. Judy really has taken a turn for the worse, in my
opinion . Go figure.

But, even more strange is the silence from some of the other informants
posting here. Where I come from, silence usually indicates agreement.
Thanks for speaking out.

On 11/1/2013 9:47 AM, Share Long wrote:
Yeah, Richard, that was definitely weird. Judy had always been so
friendly before that!

On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:41 AM, Richard J. Williams
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, I think we had this conversation recently and several nasty
comments were posted by Judy and Emily about Share making this same
point. Go figure.

...both told me I should be drinking up to three litres of liquid a
day for my body to function at its best.

On 10/31/2013 10:54 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com
mailto:cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fwd: Dipavali Celebrations including the Maharishi Vedic Pandits

Never pass up an an opportunity to bash the TMO and the poor Hindu 
pandit boys! Something really hurtful must have happened to the 
informant MJ when he was working up there in food service. I mean, I 
still hate my high school math teacher, old man McCabe, but I don't 
carry that emotion around with me for twenty years after the fact. MJ 
and Barry have all the earmarks of misfits that got kicked out of the 
TMO, for one reason or another. Go figure.



On 11/1/2013 8:52 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:




---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:

Beautiful!

Dipavali, or Diwali, is a festival celebrated by all Hindus to 
commemorate Lord Rama and his wife, Sita’s return to Ayodhya after his 
14-year exile.


And the TMO claims this crap isn't HInduism?

Ah, and we see that the sidhas get to hang with Big Bopper Bevan, 
whilst the lowly meditators have to make do with Keith Wallace - why 
create separation? Oh, I forgot, we must have a tightly stratified 
hierarchy as the Hindus do, as is our tradition.


And the Hindu priests will be performing a Hindu sacrifice to appease 
the goddess of prosperity, but TM is absolutely non-religious.


Shall we just say TM appears to embrace some cultural similarities to 
those recognized and celebrated by India. Incorporating cultural 
diversity within North American living is a good thing, no? After all, 
what would we all do without Taco Bell?



On Thu, 10/31/13, Dick Mays dickmays@... mailto:dickmays@...
wrote:

Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Dipavali Celebrations including the
Maharishi Vedic Pandits
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2013, 9:39 PM


























Forwarded
from: Eloise
Raymond eraymond@... mailto:eraymond@...
Date:
October
31, 2013 4:27:26 PM CDT





Dipavali Celebrations including the Maharishi Vedic
Pandits






Dear Friends of the Maharishi Vedic
Pandits,We want to make sure that you have seen the
announcement about the Dipavali celebrations this weekend.
Please note that the Maharishi Vedic Pandits will be coming
to the Dome on Sunday afternoon. We hope you will be able to
come and enjoy the auspicious celebration of Mahalakshmi.
Jai Guru Dev,Eloise and
SandyCELEBRATING DHANVANTARI DAY, THE DAY OF
PERFECT HEALTHEnlivening the aspect of
nature’s intelligence responsible for the health of the
universe

Friday night, November 1, 8:00 p.m.

Dalby Hall

Hosted by Dr. Robert Keith Wallace and Dr. Paul
Morehead
Maharishi’s address on Dhanvantari Day
CELEBRATING TOTAL
KNOWLEDGEOn this special day of Hanuman
Jayanti, enlivening the value of Total Knowledge—Brahm
Vidya

Saturday afternoon, November 2, 1:30
p.m.

For Sidhas – Dalby
Hall, With Dr. Bevan Morris and Dr. Doug Birx and
Dr. Linda Birx (please bring your current program
badge)
For Meditators –
Festival Hall (upstairs in the Argiro Student
Center) with Dr. Keith Wallace, featuring a special
Maharishi tape followed by discussion and a group
meditation
CELEBRATING DIPAVALI,
THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTSEnlivening
prosperity, good fortune, and happiness in our lives

With the Maharishi
Vedic Pandits performing the
Mahalakshmi Puja

Sunday afternoon, November 3, 1:00–4:30 p.m.
(doors open at 12:40)

Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome

Bring your favorite treats for all to enjoy, also fresh
flower blossoms and 2-3 whole washed organic fruits
Help support the Maharishi Vedic Pandits in our
community. A donation of any size is greatly appreciated.
Checks are payable to BSF (Brahmananda Saraswati
Foundation), online donations can be made at
http://www.vedicpandits.org.

Please bring your current program badge or MUM
student ID. For other practitioners of the Transcendental
Meditation program, contact the Invincible America
Department 641-472-1212 or email: iadept@... mailto:iadept@...
Guru Dev

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here takes Richard
seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

It is really strange behavior to say the least. Judy is a real case, and I'm
not the first person to note that she can be very disagreeable.

WARNING: Don't ever suggest that Hillary Clinton is not a fit candidate to be
the next U.S. President!

So, I probably posted hundreds of on-topic posts to a.m.t. on Usenet, (some of
which I've updated and posted to FFL), over a period of about five years
starting in 1999, without getting a single response from Judy. Then, in about
2001, a few days after I posted a message calling into question Judy's claim
that Bush lied about the reason the U.S. invaded Iraq, I started getting all
kinds of nasty messages from Judy. She went just about ape-shit, calling me a
troll and a scumbag and a liar. She encouraged everyone on the list to shun me
and has been doing so almost every week since then - for over ten years!
Apparently Judy has some influence over the Minions, Pips and Mean Girls on FFL
but she doesn't seem to be getting the best of you. Keep up the good work

http://www.rwilliams.us/usenet/archives.htm
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm

Has anyone else in the group noticed that Judy is picking on Share? While my
beef with Judy may have some substance, Share seems like a pretty decent person
who just likes to talk with people. Regardless of what Judy has said about me,
I find her antagonism toward Share to be very mean-spirited. Judy really has
taken a turn for the worse, in my opinion . Go figure.

But, even more strange is the silence from some of the other informants
posting here. Where I come from, silence usually indicates agreement. Thanks
for speaking out.

On 11/1/2013 9:47 AM, Share Long wrote:

Yeah, Richard, that was definitely weird. Judy had always been so friendly
before that!

On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:41 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@...
mailto:punditster@... wrote:

Yeah, I think we had this conversation recently and several nasty comments
were posted by Judy and Emily about Share making this same point. Go figure.

...both told me I should be drinking up to three litres of liquid a day for
my body to function at its best.

On 10/31/2013 10:54 AM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

93 million?? Are you nuts? From which right-wing extremist liars did you get 
this bit of ridiculous misinformation?
 

 Come on, Mike, let's see some attribution here.
 

Mike wrote:
 
  Oh come on dude. If you like your insurance , you can keep it, period. Just 
  because the administration
  knew in '10 that 93 million would probably lose it, well that's just a 
  *glitch*.

[FairfieldLife] RE: 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

It is really strange behavior to say the least. Judy is a real case, and I'm
not the first person to note that she can be very disagreeable.

WARNING: Don't ever suggest that Hillary Clinton is not a fit candidate to be
the next U.S. President!

So, I probably posted hundreds of on-topic posts to a.m.t. on Usenet, (some of
which I've updated and posted to FFL), over a period of about five years
starting in 1999, without getting a single response from Judy. Then, in about
2001, a few days after I posted a message calling into question Judy's claim
that Bush lied about the reason the U.S. invaded Iraq, I started getting all
kinds of nasty messages from Judy. She went just about ape-shit, calling me a
troll and a scumbag and a liar. She encouraged everyone on the list to shun me
and has been doing so almost every week since then - for over ten years!
Apparently Judy has some influence over the Minions, Pips and Mean Girls on FFL
but she doesn't seem to be getting the best of you. Keep up the good work

http://www.rwilliams.us/usenet/archives.htm
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm

Has anyone else in the group noticed that Judy is picking on Share? While my
beef with Judy may have some substance, Share seems like a pretty decent person
who just likes to talk with people. Regardless of what Judy has said about me,
I find her antagonism toward Share to be very mean-spirited. Judy really has
taken a turn for the worse, in my opinion . Go figure.

But, even more strange is the silence from some of the other informants
posting here. Where I come from, silence usually indicates agreement. Thanks
for speaking out.

On 11/1/2013 9:47 AM, Share Long wrote:

Yeah, Richard, that was definitely weird. Judy had always been so friendly
before that!

On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:41 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@...
mailto:punditster@... wrote:

Yeah, I think we had this conversation recently and several nasty comments
were posted by Judy and Emily about Share making this same point. Go figure.

Oh yes, this online mail article is the last word on water drinking. Her face
is lookin' great but her kidneys are shot. Of course one could get the same
effect from better lighting but instead I'll drink three litres of water a day
and feel confident, based on this highly respected article, that my health will
improve. Big apologies to Share, she was correct after all.

...both told me I should be drinking up to three litres of liquid a day for
my body to function at its best.

On 10/31/2013 10:54 AM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html

[FairfieldLife] RE: Fwd: Dipavali Celebrations including the Maharishi Vedic Pandits

 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Never pass up an an opportunity to bash the TMO and the poor Hindu pandit 
boys! Something really hurtful must have happened to the informant MJ when he 
was working up there in food service. I mean, I still hate my high school math 
teacher, old man McCabe, but I don't carry that emotion around with me for 
twenty years after the fact. MJ and Barry have all the earmarks of misfits that 
got kicked out of the TMO, for one reason or another. Go figure.
 

 Maybe they refused the hot sauce.
 
 
 On 11/1/2013 8:52 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 

 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote:
 
 Beautiful! 
 
 Dipavali, or Diwali, is a festival celebrated by all Hindus to commemorate 
Lord Rama and his wife, Sita’s return to Ayodhya after his 14-year exile. 
 
 And the TMO claims this crap isn't HInduism?
 
 Ah, and we see that the sidhas get to hang with Big Bopper Bevan, whilst the 
lowly meditators have to make do with Keith Wallace - why create separation? 
Oh, I forgot, we must have a tightly stratified hierarchy as the Hindus do, as 
is our tradition.
 
 And the Hindu priests will be performing a Hindu sacrifice to appease the 
goddess of prosperity, but TM is absolutely non-religious. 
 
 
 Shall we just say TM appears to embrace some cultural similarities to those 
recognized and celebrated by India. Incorporating cultural diversity within 
North American living is a good thing, no? After all, what would we all do 
without Taco Bell?
 
 On Thu, 10/31/13, Dick Mays dickmays@... mailto:dickmays@... wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Dipavali Celebrations including the Maharishi 
Vedic Pandits
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, October 31, 2013, 9:39 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Forwarded
 from: Eloise
 Raymond eraymond@... mailto:eraymond@...
 Date:
 October
 31, 2013 4:27:26 PM CDT
 
 
 
 
 
 Dipavali Celebrations including the Maharishi Vedic
 Pandits
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Dear Friends of the Maharishi Vedic
 Pandits,We want to make sure that you have seen the
 announcement about the Dipavali celebrations this weekend.
 Please note that the Maharishi Vedic Pandits will be coming
 to the Dome on Sunday afternoon. We hope you will be able to
 come and enjoy the auspicious celebration of Mahalakshmi.
 Jai Guru Dev,Eloise and
 SandyCELEBRATING DHANVANTARI DAY, THE DAY OF
 PERFECT HEALTHEnlivening the aspect of
 nature’s intelligence responsible for the health of the
 universe 
 
 Friday night, November 1, 8:00 p.m.
 
 Dalby Hall
 
 Hosted by Dr. Robert Keith Wallace and Dr. Paul
 Morehead
 Maharishi’s address on Dhanvantari Day 
 CELEBRATING TOTAL
 KNOWLEDGEOn this special day of Hanuman
 Jayanti, enlivening the value of Total Knowledge—Brahm
 Vidya 
 
 Saturday afternoon, November 2, 1:30
 p.m.
 
 For Sidhas – Dalby
 Hall, With Dr. Bevan Morris and Dr. Doug Birx and
 Dr. Linda Birx (please bring your current program
 badge)
 For Meditators –
 Festival Hall (upstairs in the Argiro Student
 Center) with Dr. Keith Wallace, featuring a special
 Maharishi tape followed by discussion and a group
 meditation
 CELEBRATING DIPAVALI,
 THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTSEnlivening
 prosperity, good fortune, and happiness in our lives
 
 With the Maharishi
 Vedic Pandits performing the
 Mahalakshmi Puja 
 
 Sunday afternoon, November 3, 1:00–4:30 p.m.
 (doors open at 12:40)
 
 Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome
 
 Bring your favorite treats for all to enjoy, also fresh
 flower blossoms and 2-3 whole washed organic fruits
 Help support the Maharishi Vedic Pandits in our
 community. A donation of any size is greatly appreciated.
 Checks are payable to BSF (Brahmananda Saraswati
 Foundation), online donations can be made at http://www.vedicpandits.org. 
http://www.vedicpandits.org.
 
 Please bring your current program badge or MUM
 student ID. For other practitioners of the Transcendental
 Meditation program, contact the Invincible America
 Department 641-472-1212 or email: iadept@... mailto:iadept@...
 Guru Dev

[FairfieldLife] RE: 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

It is really strange behavior to say the least. Judy is a real case, and I'm
not the first person to note that she can be very disagreeable.

WARNING: Don't ever suggest that Hillary Clinton is not a fit candidate to be
the next U.S. President!

So, I probably posted hundreds of on-topic posts to a.m.t. on Usenet, (some of
which I've updated and posted to FFL), over a period of about five years
starting in 1999, without getting a single response from Judy. Then, in about
2001, a few days after I posted a message calling into question Judy's claim
that Bush lied about the reason the U.S. invaded Iraq, I started getting all
kinds of nasty messages from Judy. She went just about ape-shit, calling me a
troll and a scumbag and a liar. She encouraged everyone on the list to shun me
and has been doing so almost every week since then - for over ten years!
Apparently Judy has some influence over the Minions, Pips and Mean Girls on FFL
but she doesn't seem to be getting the best of you. Keep up the good work

http://www.rwilliams.us/usenet/archives.htm
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm

Has anyone else in the group noticed that Judy is picking on Share? While my
beef with Judy may have some substance, Share seems like a pretty decent person
who just likes to talk with people. Regardless of what Judy has said about me,
I find her antagonism toward Share to be very mean-spirited. Judy really has
taken a turn for the worse, in my opinion . Go figure.

Yes, Share is a pretty decent person who just likes to talk with people.
Just like Barry is a happy-go-lucky travel writer and you are just a guy who
adores the human race but pretends not to.

But, even more strange is the silence from some of the other informants
posting here. Where I come from, silence usually indicates agreement. Thanks
for speaking out.

On 11/1/2013 9:47 AM, Share Long wrote:

Yeah, Richard, that was definitely weird. Judy had always been so friendly
before that!

On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:41 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@...
mailto:punditster@... wrote:

Yeah, I think we had this conversation recently and several nasty comments
were posted by Judy and Emily about Share making this same point. Go figure.

...both told me I should be drinking up to three litres of liquid a day for
my body to function at its best.

On 10/31/2013 10:54 AM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Helplessly Hoping

2013-11-01 Thread Bhairitu

They recorded the second album at Wally Heider's in San Francisco.  I 
was there for one the sessions.


On 11/01/2013 05:42 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:


Nailed it? Om come on. Little groove anymore. Tired bunch of retired 
guys turning some concert money. They sounds the same, except boring 
and old now. They should just leave it on the album. Sure you like the 
nostalgic of a life once lived. Seems these coffee shop guys did not 
never record with Muscle Shoals or forgot they ever did.


http://www.magpictures.com/muscleshoals/


-Buck



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:


 Yep, good memories, good memorieshere is an acoustic
 concert of the three of them. Just give up and listen to the
 whole concert.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjbq6K2ziDQ

Excellent. Great find.

Our friend Joe wrote on another forum that he just saw
CSNY in San Francisco a few days ago, and they nailed
it there, too. For some people, the bodies get older but
the voices don't. The first Supergroup, and they're
still pretty super.


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  This song changed my life fifty years ago.
 
  I guess I'm not the only old fart who feels that way about it:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I4pIULFGLI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I4pIULFGLI

 Still tripping on Crosby, Stills and Nash after discovering
 this treasure, I thought I'd post the song that started it all.

 As I remember the story, Steven wrote the song and taught
 it to David. They worked on harmonies for it, but David
 always thought that it needed a third voice.

 So they go over to Joni Mitchell's house, and there they
 meet for the first time this guy from England who they
 really only know as the voice of The Hollies. And things
 progress and get wild and wooly the way things got back
 in those days of Laurel Canyon house parties, and at
 some point Steven and David start to sing Helplessly
 Hoping, which of course no one has heard before.

 On the second verse, David heard Graham Nash join
 in, singing the *exact* third harmony part he had
 written in his head. And the rest is history.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

2013-11-01 Thread Bhairitu

The health insurance companies are extortionists anyway.  Why would  you 
want to keep paying money to them?  I hope hey all go bankrupt.


On 11/01/2013 07:35 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Oh come on dude. If you like your insurance , you can keep it, period. 
Just because the administration knew in '10 that 93 million would 
probably lose it, well that's just a *glitch*.


*From:* emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:15 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny
alt

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras

We really need to cut emptybill some slack about this, Ann. He said his 
wife passed away - may she rest in peace.


So, maybe that's a real tragedy, but why is he taking it out on me? I'm 
just trying to share information to make this group more interesting to 
read, unlike some others who seem to just want to wreck it. Go figure.


Now he's taking care of his daughter, so I guess we can assume that he 
practiced tantric yoga at least once in his life.


I've spent forty years investigating the tantric tradition and it's 
relation to TM practice and studied with three tantric teachers. It's 
just a shame that we can't get more substantive information about tantra 
out of him, instead of all the grief he has directed at me and Vaj, 
seeing as how we're all three Buddhists.


But, he doesn't sound much like a Buddhist and his teacher seems to have 
mixed up the dualism of the Sankhya with the non-dualism of the 
Vajrayana, so I can't really figure him or his teacher out. Apparently 
his teacher thinks making puja to Shiva is the 'original' tantra, but 
everyone knows that Shiva worship came after the historical Buddha and 
the rise of the devotional sects in India, at the beginning of the Gupta 
period. Go figure.


Did I tell you I attended the Kalachakra initiation with the Tibetan 
Dalai Lama at Los Angeles in July, 1989?


As in all Vajryana practices, the Kalachakra initiation empowers the 
disciple to practice tantra in the service of attaining enlightenment, 
not for the mere acquisition of material goods or fortune from Laksmi, 
but to attune the mind for the acceptance of voidness. So, far from 
being 'empty, our Bill seems to be pretty full of himself,but maybe he's 
just lashing out from prolonged grief - I don't know.


On 11/1/2013 8:56 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:




---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

You made my day, Ann! Now if we can just get emptybill to improve his 
disposition. LoL!


Perhaps someone should get a grip on his Shiva implement...that's 
usually good for a momentary burst of bliss.


On 11/1/2013 8:45 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...
wrote:




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


More meat on the bone? Get a grip, Anne, he said he was already doing 
puja to a 'Shiva Lingam'. Whatever; it doesn't seem to be improving 
his disposition very much. Go figure.


First of all my name is ANN. Secondly, I like your wordplay on the 
whole lingam/bone(er) thing. The addition of the term get a grip 
finishes off the double entendre nicely.


On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, awoelflebater@...
mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:




---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... 
mailto:emptybill@... wrote:


What a fucking idiot you are.


When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and 
sage advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then


wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got

to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down

low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam

surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms.

Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana 
Yidam and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula.



He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was 
2005. He asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I 
told him I didn't do a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired 
... kamya


ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ...

Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers 
Sankhya to be very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to 
Dzogchen.



All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool.

What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll.

ideas might be the operative word here. I don't have the time or 
the disposition for living and practicing ideas. I am far too busy 
living life. Try it, you might find it has lots more meat on the bone.


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:


emptybill:

 I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam.


So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra
lingham, at the same time you're trying to practice under a
Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is Vaj when we need him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra

 Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated 


by Sanjukta Gupta.

And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the
Laksmi Tantra? I'm not even interested in Hindu Tantrism -
my interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you speak any Tibetan?


http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta

RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

2013-11-01 Thread doctordumbass

OK - let's say it is just half of that - 45 million, which sounds closer, 
anyway. It is a rigged game. Any policies that don't carry all the coverages 
that are now federally mandated, must be cancelled, as mine was, and reissued. 
It is not 'bad actors', as the prez is saying - It is federal law, which he 
signed into place.
 

 It gets better. Then, when the policy is reissued, surprise, now, more than 
double. Subsidies are only available on the more expensive plans, anyway. My 
choice, subsidized, or not, is basic insurance, with a $5000 annual 
deductible, for $560/mo. I'd have to spend almost $12,000, per year, before 
getting a dollar reimbursed.
 

 No thanks. Gee, I feel so grateful for 'health reform'. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 93 million?? Are you nuts? From which right-wing extremist liars did you get 
this bit of ridiculous misinformation?
 

 Come on, Mike, let's see some attribution here.
 

Mike wrote:
 
  Oh come on dude. If you like your insurance , you can keep it, period. Just 
  because the administration
  knew in '10 that 93 million would probably lose it, well that's just a 
  *glitch*.

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

Better start watching something other than MSNBC Judy.  Fox is reporting that 
as early as '10 the administration knew that a very high percentage of people, 
offered insurance in the work place ,could possibly lose theirs as well. Some 
63% of small businesses as well as 45% of large businesses could be sending out 
cancellation letters. Possibly as high as 93 million. Possibly? Probably? Who 
cares, it's meant to be, to force people on to Obamacare.

From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

93 million?? Are you nuts? From which right-wing extremist liars did you get 
this bit of ridiculous misinformation?

Come on, Mike, let's see some attribution here.

Mike wrote:

 Oh come on dude. If you like your insurance , you can keep it, period. Just 
 because the administration
 knew in '10 that 93 million would probably lose it, well that's just a 
 *glitch*.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

Never had any problem with BCBS paying my medical bills.


From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

  
The health insurance companies are extortionists anyway.  Why would  you want 
to keep paying money to them?  I hope hey all go bankrupt.On 11/01/2013 07:35 
AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
  
Oh come on dude. If you like your insurance , you can keep it, period. Just 
because the administration knew in '10 that 93 million would probably lose it, 
well that's just a *glitch*.



From: mailto:emptyb...@yahoo.com mailto:emptyb...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

BTW is it just a coincidence that the employer mandate has delayed till  next 
year? Those letters wouldn't be going out till after the elections

From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

Better start watching something other than MSNBC Judy.  Fox is reporting that 
as early as '10 the administration knew that a very high percentage of people, 
offered insurance in the work place ,could possibly lose theirs as well. Some 
63% of small businesses as well as 45% of large businesses could be sending out 
cancellation letters. Possibly as high as 93 million. Possibly? Probably? Who 
cares, it's meant to be, to force people on to Obamacare.

From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

93 million?? Are you nuts? From which right-wing extremist liars did you get 
this bit of ridiculous misinformation?

Come on, Mike, let's see some attribution here.

Mike wrote:

 Oh come on dude. If you like your insurance , you can keep it, period. Just 
 because the administration
 knew in '10 that 93 million would probably lose it, well that's just a 
 *glitch*.

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

Yes, it's weird how consistent I am in reacting negatively to people who
obfuscate and lie and pretend to be someone they're not, isn't it?

BTW, here's my first post to that thread:

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/357343
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/357343

Not exactly one of my nastier posts. But Share didn't like being corrected one
bit and proceeded to emit clouds and clouds of smelly obfuscation and toxic
reality-avoidance--you know, the usual. What a surprise that she wouldn't get a
friendly response. What a surprise that she would attempt to mislead us now
about that thread from September.

BTW, this wasn't about Share making this same point as the ditzy woman from
the Daily Mail. The point in question with Share was the now-debunked myth she
was promoting that if you feel thirsty, you're already dehydrated. The Daily
Mail lady didn't mention that; she was just babbling about how she felt and
(thought she) looked much better when she drank three liters of water a day. In
fact, contrary to what she claims her doctors told her, there's no earthly
reason to drink that much water, no evidence at all that it does you any good.

That was the point I made in the post I linked to above (with references to
recent research), the point that sent Share into her Mr. Hyde mode.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Yeah, Richard, that was definitely weird. Judy had always been so friendly
before that!

On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:41 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@...
wrote:

Yeah, I think we had this conversation recently and several nasty comments
were posted by Judy and Emily about Share making this same point. Go figure.

...both told me I should be drinking up to three litres of liquid a day for
my body to function at its best.

On 10/31/2013 10:54 AM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

It's probably closer to 80 million, but, it could be a lot more than
that. It's been estimated that over 44 million Americans don't have
medical insurance, for one reason or another, and another 38 million
have less than optimum health care insurance.

According to CBS News, two million people who had medical insurance have
been dropped in the last month or two, so far. It's been estimated that
19 million people or 80%, who don’t have a company-hosted plan or
insurance through the Medicare or Medicaid government programs may have
to find new health coverage.

From what I've read, only about 300 people have managed to sign up for
Obamacare, so how many people does that make that now don't have
adequate medical insurance? Lets do the math.

'Obamacare: More than 2 million people getting booted from existing
health insurance plans'

CBS News:
http://www.cbsnews.com/obamacare-more-than-2-million-people-getting-booted
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57609737/obamacare-more-than-2-million-people-getting-booted-from-existing-health-insurance-plans/

'Health Policies Canceled in Latest Hurdle for Obamacare'
Bloomberg:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/health-policies-canceled
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-29/health-policies-canceled-in-latest-hurdle-for-obamacare.html

'Healthcare Crises'
PBS:
http://www.pbs.org/healthcarecrisis/uninsured.html

On 11/1/2013 10:20 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

*93 million?? Are you nuts? From which right-wing extremist liars
did you get this bit of ridiculous misinformation?*

*
*

*Come on, Mike, let's see some attribution here.*

Mike wrote:

Oh come on dude. If you like your insurance , you can keep it, period. Just
because the administration
knew in '10 that 93 million would probably lose it, well that's just a
*glitch*.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

Maybe because if you have health insurance you won't have to declare 
personal bankruptcy after an illness?


On 11/1/2013 10:52 AM, Bhairitu wrote:


The health insurance companies are extortionists anyway.  Why would  
you want to keep paying money to them?  I hope hey all go bankrupt.


On 11/01/2013 07:35 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Oh come on dude. If you like your insurance , you can keep it, 
period. Just because the administration knew in '10 that 93 million 
would probably lose it, well that's just a *glitch*.


*From:* emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:15 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny
alt

RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

It's nowhere near that, doc. It's only people who have individual plans who are 
subject to it, and they're a very small percentage of the market.
 

 Plus which, some of it is indeed bad actors, insurance companies that try to 
make these people believe their only option is a much more expensive one than 
the one that was canceled, when actually the companies have cheaper plans that 
meet the ACA standards and that are not that much more expensive although they 
provide a lot better coverage than the plan that was canceled (which will very 
likely save them money.in the longer run).
 

 I can't speak to your particular situation, but if you are genuinely getting 
stuck with much higher premiums but not much better coverage, you're among a 
very small group.
 

 We'd all be better off with single-payer, but the bottom line is that with 
ACA, most people will benefit.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 OK - let's say it is just half of that - 45 million, which sounds closer, 
anyway. It is a rigged game. Any policies that don't carry all the coverages 
that are now federally mandated, must be cancelled, as mine was, and reissued. 
It is not 'bad actors', as the prez is saying - It is federal law, which he 
signed into place.
 

 It gets better. Then, when the policy is reissued, surprise, now, more than 
double. Subsidies are only available on the more expensive plans, anyway. My 
choice, subsidized, or not, is basic insurance, with a $5000 annual 
deductible, for $560/mo. I'd have to spend almost $12,000, per year, before 
getting a dollar reimbursed.
 

 No thanks. Gee, I feel so grateful for 'health reform'. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 93 million?? Are you nuts? From which right-wing extremist liars did you get 
this bit of ridiculous misinformation?
 

 Come on, Mike, let's see some attribution here.
 

Mike wrote:
 
  Oh come on dude. If you like your insurance , you can keep it, period. Just 
  because the administration
  knew in '10 that 93 million would probably lose it, well that's just a 
  *glitch*.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

2013-11-01 Thread Bhairitu

This was your employer's plan?  Have you ever had to pay for health 
insurance on your own (though you actually did with your employer's plan)?


On 11/01/2013 09:08 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:

Never had any problem with BCBS paying my medical bills.

*From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, November 1, 2013 8:52 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny
The health insurance companies are extortionists anyway.  Why would  
you want to keep paying money to them?  I hope hey all go bankrupt.On 
11/01/2013 07:35 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Oh come on dude. If you like your insurance , you can keep it, 
period. Just because the administration knew in '10 that 93 million 
would probably lose it, well that's just a *glitch*.


*From:* mailto:emptyb...@yahoo.com mailto:emptyb...@yahoo.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*Sent:* Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:15 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny
alt

Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

Well, thanks, Judy, for making my case.

This shouldn't be too difficult to verify. I already posted the links to
some of my on-topic posts to a.m.t., so anyone can see Judy didn't
respond to a single one. And, anyone can do a simple search on Usenet to
see her responses to my off-topic comments:

Just key in IF, judy AND willytex THEN liar ELSE troll.

https://groups.google.com/forum/alt.meditation.transcendental
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#%21forum/alt.meditation.transcendental

On 11/1/2013 10:22 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here takes
Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

It is really strange behavior to say the least. Judy is a real case,
and I'm not the first person to note that she can be very disagreeable.

WARNING: Don't ever suggest that Hillary Clinton is not a fit
candidate to be the next U.S. President!

So, I probably posted hundreds of on-topic posts to a.m.t. on Usenet,
(some of which I've updated and posted to FFL), over a period of about
five years starting in 1999, without getting a single response from
Judy. Then, in about 2001, a few days after I posted a message calling
into question Judy's claim that Bush lied about the reason the U.S.
invaded Iraq, I started getting all kinds of nasty messages from Judy.
She went just about ape-shit, calling me a troll and a scumbag and a
liar. She encouraged everyone on the list to shun me and has been
doing so almost every week since then - for over ten years! Apparently
Judy has some influence over the Minions, Pips and Mean Girls on FFL
but she doesn't seem to be getting the best of you. Keep up the good work

http://www.rwilliams.us/usenet/archives.htm
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm

But, even more strange is the silence from some of the other
informants posting here. Where I come from, silence usually indicates
agreement. Thanks for speaking out.

On 11/1/2013 9:47 AM, Share Long wrote:

Yeah, Richard, that was definitely weird. Judy had always been so
friendly before that!

On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:41 AM, Richard J. Williams
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
Yeah, I think we had this conversation recently and several nasty
comments were posted by Judy and Emily about Share making this same
point. Go figure.

...both told me I should be drinking up to three litres of liquid a
day for my body to function at its best.

On 10/31/2013 10:54 AM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

Let's just sum up this topic: Judy is a shit heel and she is definitely
weird. Anyone disagree? Where I come from, silence usually indicates
agreement.

Let's hear it from the Minions, the Pips, and the Mean Girls faction.
I'm sure this won't be lost on Barry. LoL!

On 11/1/2013 11:25 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

Yes, it's weird how consistent I am in reacting negatively to people
who obfuscate and lie and pretend to be someone they're not, isn't it?

BTW, here's my first post to that thread:

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/357343

Not exactly one of my nastier posts. But Share didn't like being
corrected one bit and proceeded to emit clouds and clouds of smelly
obfuscation and toxic reality-avoidance--you know, the usual. What a
surprise that she wouldn't get a friendly response. What a surprise
that she would attempt to mislead us now about that thread from September.

BTW, this wasn't about Share making this same point as the ditzy
woman from the Daily Mail. The point in question with Share was the
now-debunked myth she was promoting that if you feel thirsty, you're
already dehydrated. The Daily Mail lady didn't mention that; she was
just babbling about how she felt and (thought she) looked much better
when she drank three liters of water a day. In fact, contrary to what
she claims her doctors told her, there's no earthly reason to drink
that much water, no evidence at all that it does you any good.

That was the point I made in the post I linked to above (with
references to recent research), the point that sent Share into her Mr.
Hyde mode.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

Yeah, Richard, that was definitely weird. Judy had always been so
friendly before that!

On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:41 AM, Richard J. Williams
punditster@... wrote:
Yeah, I think we had this conversation recently and several nasty
comments were posted by Judy and Emily about Share making this same
point. Go figure.

...both told me I should be drinking up to three litres of liquid a
day for my body to function at its best.

On 10/31/2013 10:54 AM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@...
wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html

RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

Well, to start with, even if that estimate weren't ridiculously high, it's not 
of the entire population, as you suggested at first, but only of those who have 
insurance through their employers.
 

 Now, Mike, despite what Fox News tells you, the government has no control over 
what private employers decide to do about insurance. I would imagine there 
would be a huge outcry from your Tea Party types if the government told these 
companies they couldn't drop their employee insurance plans.
 

 The government doesn't care if people get insurance through their employers, 
as long as it's up to ACA standards. The government has no incentive to force 
people onto ACA if they already have good insurance, so that claim is 
obviously false. ACA is for people who don't have decent, affordable insurance.
 

 The onus is on the companies who have no compunctions about leaving their 
employees high and dry. The fact is, though, that these people (however many of 
them there will be) will be able to get affordable policies through the 
exchanges because of ACA (without having to worry about preexisting conditions, 
of course, or losing their coverage if they lose their job or quit and move 
away or decide to start their own business and become a job creator).
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Better start watching something other than MSNBC Judy.  Fox is reporting that 
as early as '10 the administration knew that a very high percentage of people, 
offered insurance in the work place ,could possibly lose theirs as well. Some 
63% of small businesses as well as 45% of large businesses could be sending out 
cancellation letters. Possibly as high as 93 million. Possibly? Probably? Who 
cares, it's meant to be, to force people on to Obamacare.

 

 
From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Says Reject Voices Warning of Tyranny

   93 million?? Are you nuts? From which right-wing extremist liars did you 
get this bit of ridiculous misinformation?
 

 Come on, Mike, let's see some attribution here.
 
Mike wrote:
 
  Oh come on dude. If you like your insurance , you can keep it, period. Just 
  because the administration
  knew in '10 that 93 million would probably lose it, well that's just a 
  *glitch*.

Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

Come on Judy- tell us how you fibbed about setting a 'macro' up in Yahoo
Neo. LoL!

On 11/1/2013 10:22 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here takes
Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

It is really strange behavior to say the least. Judy is a real case,
and I'm not the first person to note that she can be very disagreeable.

WARNING: Don't ever suggest that Hillary Clinton is not a fit
candidate to be the next U.S. President!

So, I probably posted hundreds of on-topic posts to a.m.t. on Usenet,
(some of which I've updated and posted to FFL), over a period of about
five years starting in 1999, without getting a single response from
Judy. Then, in about 2001, a few days after I posted a message calling
into question Judy's claim that Bush lied about the reason the U.S.
invaded Iraq, I started getting all kinds of nasty messages from Judy.
She went just about ape-shit, calling me a troll and a scumbag and a
liar. She encouraged everyone on the list to shun me and has been
doing so almost every week since then - for over ten years! Apparently
Judy has some influence over the Minions, Pips and Mean Girls on FFL
but she doesn't seem to be getting the best of you. Keep up the good work

http://www.rwilliams.us/usenet/archives.htm
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm

But, even more strange is the silence from some of the other
informants posting here. Where I come from, silence usually indicates
agreement. Thanks for speaking out.

On 11/1/2013 9:47 AM, Share Long wrote:

Yeah, Richard, that was definitely weird. Judy had always been so
friendly before that!

...both told me I should be drinking up to three litres of liquid a
day for my body to function at its best.

On 10/31/2013 10:54 AM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here takes Richard
seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Come on Judy- tell us how you fibbed about setting a 'macro' up in Yahoo Neo.
LoL!

On 11/1/2013 10:22 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:

This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here takes Richard
seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

It is really strange behavior to say the least. Judy is a real case, and I'm
not the first person to note that she can be very disagreeable.

WARNING: Don't ever suggest that Hillary Clinton is not a fit candidate to be
the next U.S. President!

So, I probably posted hundreds of on-topic posts to a.m.t. on Usenet, (some of
which I've updated and posted to FFL), over a period of about five years
starting in 1999, without getting a single response from Judy. Then, in about
2001, a few days after I posted a message calling into question Judy's claim
that Bush lied about the reason the U.S. invaded Iraq, I started getting all
kinds of nasty messages from Judy. She went just about ape-shit, calling me a
troll and a scumbag and a liar. She encouraged everyone on the list to shun me
and has been doing so almost every week since then - for over ten years!
Apparently Judy has some influence over the Minions, Pips and Mean Girls on FFL
but she doesn't seem to be getting the best of you. Keep up the good work

http://www.rwilliams.us/usenet/archives.htm
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm

Has anyone else in the group noticed that Judy is picking on Share? While my
beef with Judy may have some substance, Share seems like a pretty decent person
who just likes to talk with people. Regardless of what Judy has said about me,
I find her antagonism toward Share to be very mean-spirited. Judy really has
taken a turn for the worse, in my opinion . Go figure.

But, even more strange is the silence from some of the other informants
posting here. Where I come from, silence usually indicates agreement. Thanks
for speaking out.

On 11/1/2013 9:47 AM, Share Long wrote:

Yeah, Richard, that was definitely weird. Judy had always been so friendly
before that!

On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:41 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@...
mailto:punditster@... wrote:

Yeah, I think we had this conversation recently and several nasty comments
were posted by Judy and Emily about Share making this same point. Go figure.

...both told me I should be drinking up to three litres of liquid a day for
my body to function at its best.

On 10/31/2013 10:54 AM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!