[FairfieldLife] Schumi: Pluto in the 8th House...
Formula 1 driver Michael Schumacher right now has transiting Pluto in the 8th (at least Koch) house, quite accurately conjunct with the natal Sun... I wonder what his jyotish chart tells...
Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY's Gunas
Richard, my favorite teaching about the gunas is in Ch 4, vs 35 of Maharishi's commentary on the Gita. He explains that delusion in the state of tamas guna can be overcome by an increase in rajas; delusion in rajo guna can be overcome by an increase in sat guna; but delusion in the state of sattva, which is Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending. For me this teaching goes well with Maharishi's idea that the mind can't have a mood on an abstract basis. What this means to me is that our moods are already present in our physiology, and then the moods get expressed in behavior. In this sense we have a good amount of control over our moods just by taking good care of our body: staying rested, eating healthy foods, getting adequate exercise. I find that when my body is cruising along in a settled state, then my moods are pretty even also. On Monday, December 30, 2013 12:00 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: The Bhagavad Gita is concerned with three constituents: sattva, rajas and tamas. The idea is to transcend these three qualities. According to MMY: The authorship of action does not in reality belong to the I. It is a mistake to understand that I do this, I experience this and I know this. All action is performed by the three gunas born of Nature. The implications of these passages indicate that the nature of the mind is appreciated as it is, separate from activity. The goal of TM does not consist in acieving anything or reaching anything, but simply in recognizing what already is the case, that the I is essentially uninvolved with activity. Here, the ONLY criterion is internal: is the self cognized as independent of action - the causal nexus. The Vedas concern is with the three gunas. Be without the three gunas O Arjuna, freed from duality, ever possesses of Self. According to Anthony Campbell, free will is A choice, either determined or not. If it is determined, it is not free. But if it is determined, to what are we to ascribe it? Would a freedom based on mere chance be an alternative to causal determinism? The solution to this question is simple: incorporate into your model of free will, the mechanics of causal contact itself, contact all related forms of information in proper proportion, past, present, and future, i.e. universal causal contact based on contact with Being vis-a-vis TM. That is to say, Campbell quoting Schrodinger: Every conscious mind that has ever said or felt I IS the person who controls the motions of the atoms according to the laws of nature. So, there is authorship of action; causal contact; and free will. But he who knows the truth about the divisions of the gunas and their actions, O mighty armed, knowing that it is the gunas which act upon the gunas, remains unattached. Works cited: 'Seven States of Consciousness' by Anthony Campbell, M.D. Harper Row, 1974 p. 181 On the Bhagavad Gita by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi International SRM Publications, 1965 Verse: 27; p. 220; Verse 45: p. 90: Verse 14; p. 259.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
Ok, I guess I am cracked! I actually thought this quip by Ann about my not
quite being a corpse yet was pretty funny.
On Sunday, December 29, 2013 4:38 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:
On 12/29/2013 2:40 PM, awoelflebater@... wrote:
I don't think a couple of spiritual teachers talking about indifference
relates to anything Mike was posting about.
Maybe not, but I think Mike's point was that Jesus was indifferent to social
mores concerning adultery. From what I've read, hardly anybody back then was
indifferent to having multiple wives - they were all in favor of it. So, if
Jesus was forgiving about adultery, I wonder if he was also in favor of
polygamy? And, I don't think any spiritual teachers back then were in favor of
polyandry, except maybe over in India. But, I guess it all depends on what you
mean by spiritual teachers. According to Robin, Saul had a spiritual
experience on the road to Damascus when he thought he had seen the risen Christ
for the first time; but everyone knows that Mary Magdalene was the first to see
the Jesus rise up into the sky. Obviously the New Testament was written by men.
Go figure.
I don't care what you think and I wasn't talkin' to you. Keep your pie hole
shut and give the little lady a chance to speak for herself. She's not quite a
corpse yet. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
ann, for me both restful alertness and loving neutrality have an underlying
reality of lively silence, or being simply humming with potentiality.
On Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:40 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Thanks for your thoughts on this, Mike. A couple of spiritual teachers that
have been to FF talk about, not indifference but rather what they call loving
neutrality. I think it's a bit like what Maharishi calls restful alertness.
I would have to disagree, Sharon. I don't think being restfully alert is
remotely related to loving neutrality just like I don't think a couple of
spiritual teachers talking about indifference relates to anything Mike was
posting about. I could be missing the boat here so if you want to clarify it
for me that would be welcome.
On Sunday, December 29, 2013 9:25 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:
I think both of these comments are correct.Phil Robertson *bayoubilly*,and
those supporting him, managed to sway public opinion in his favor by convincing
everyone that this was about freedom of religion and freedom of speech. I never
read any comments that GLAAD made concerning the issue. I simply read a number
of the quotes from the GQ article and realized this was one man's views
expressed in a rude and crude manner, then justified as being Biblical.
Perhaps his views are Biblical but not how he expressed it and then saying he
loves everybody and doesn't hate anybody just doesn't wash. That would be like
Christ referring to the adulteress as a slutty, little dirty whore, spreading
disease but I'll forgive you this time if you don't sin anymore. Just didn't
happen that way. By NOT attacking a life style doesn't mean that you agree
with or condone it. Too many people are wrapped up in either loving something
or hating it, loving someone or hating
them. There is a middle path and that is indifference. We hear love the
sinner but hate the sin. Why not love the sinner and be indifferent to their
sin, just don't get involved in it and let them work it out. The Robertson
family dodged a bullet and if they are smart, they'll learn from this ordeal.
I'll bet they all spent a lot of sleepless nights and while they won-out, I
don't think they want to go through something like that again.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 5:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Two groups of smug, urban sophisticates got outsmarted by a backwoodsman who
carves duck calls with a pocket knife for a living and shoots ducks for
entertainment. Go figure.
'Who are the losers in the Duck Dynasty flap?'
http://washingtonexaminer.com/duck-dynasty-flap/
Here's Everything We Learned From the Duck Dynasty Controversy Summed Up in
Just One Sentence You can say whatever you want, including that gay people are
sinful and full of murder, envy, strife, hatred and are in the same league as
those who enjoy beingpenetrated by barnyard animals and that black people were
happy and were not singing the blues when Jim Crow laws ruled America, and
as long as you later tack on I love all of humanity and I would never incite
or encourage hate and throw around the word tolerance, and as long as
there's enough money and publicity swirling and more ready to be made, you will
face absolutely no consequences and if anything you'll be celebrated as a hero
and lauded as an icon of freedom -- some will even go so far as to call you the
Rosa Parks of our generation -- while the people you were talking about will
still be vilified and will have to fight even harder against society's belief
that they are -- even in
the 21st century, even in a country that is not supposed to be ruled by
religion or heartless, hateful zealots -- at their very core all of those vile
and (let it be said once and for all) patently untrue things that you said
about
them.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/noah-michelson/heres-everything-we-learn_b_4509998.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: music royalties
Yep - there are only so many song appropriate melodies in the world - one of my songs was tagged as having the same content as another, but mine came out first, so the dispute was resolved easily.
[FairfieldLife] RE: music royalties
PS Yay George - He was my favorite Beatle, followed by Ringo, Paul and John, in that order. I was ten when I bought my first Beatles album, The Beatles Second Album for $2.99, and John had the least friendly face.
[FairfieldLife] Roger Ebert says it's all a hoax
touching article by his wife http://www.esquire.com/blogs/news/roger-ebert-final-moments
[FairfieldLife] Thoughts Are Powerful Things
an excerpt from Sir Isaac Tigrett's talk given in Singapore 2007. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2013/12/30/our-thoughts-are-powerful-excerpted-from-isaac-tigretts-singapore-talk-2007/
[FairfieldLife] No harmony and counterpoint, and stuff!
Ravi Shankar on Indian classical music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al1q01CZgtc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al1q01CZgtc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Schumi: Pluto in the 8th House...
Rita and I really wanted to attend the Formula One Grand Prix race up in Austin, but the tickets are pretty pricey. The rent is too damn high! [image: Inline image 1] Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 08:20 Some of Friday's 58,276 anticipatory fans were greeted by unusually heavy fog during the first practice session at the 2013 FORMULA 1 UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX. After Free Practice 1 being delayed for 40 minutes due to the fog, and brief running of the cars for only 15 minutes, a red flag was raised as the Circuit's medical helicopter was unaccounted for. Eventually, the helicopter returned and Fernando Alonso of Scuderia Ferrari set the fastest pace of the session on new Pirelli P Zero Orange tires, completing 16 laps, reaching 125 MPH, and having the fastest lap time of 1:38.343. Read more: Austin Grand Prix: http://www.theaustingrandprix.com/ Michael Schumacher is a retired German racing driver. Schumacher is a seven-time Formula One World Champion and is widely regarded as one of the greatest F1 drivers of all time. He holds many of Formula One's driver records, including most championships, race victories, fastest laps, pole positions and most races won in a single season – 13 in 2004. In 2002 he became the only driver in Formula One history to finish in the top three in every race of a season and then also broke the record for most consecutive podium finishes. Michael_Schumacher: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Schumacher On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 3:02 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: Formula 1 driver Michael Schumacher right now has transiting Pluto in the 8th (at least Koch) house, quite accurately conjunct with the natal Sun... I wonder what his jyotish chart tells...
[FairfieldLife] MMY's Darshan
Galaxy of Fire: Journey to an ancient spiritual world. [image: Inline image 1] Why is he here? How did he get in? The men were all clean shaven and had their best suits on. Worst of all, there couldn't have been more than fifteen Westerners, all total; the very top of Maharishi's Western organization, all there by personal invitation from Maharishi himself, and all sitting in the front row in full view of the main entrance. So much for blending in. Behind the Westerners sat hundreds of exuberant brahmin boys whom Maharishi was instructing in the Vedas. The few ladies I saw were the top administrators of Maharishi's Thousand Headed Mother Divine Course. I sat down directly in front of Maharishi who was sitting about fifteen feet away on his dais. To his left, and above him on his own dais was the present Shankaracharya of Jyothirmath, the spiritual pope of North India, Sri Swami Vishnudevananda. To his left, sitting on an even higher dais, was Guru Dev's successor (appointed by Guru Dev himself, in his will), Shri Swami Shantanand Saraswati Maharaj, retired Shankaracharya of Jyothirmath. These two sat under the gold and red umbrella of the Shankaracharya, on the throne-like chairs of their position. Surrounding them were about fifty of the most illustrious looking orange-clad swamis I'd ever seen. This was the top of India's spiritual tradition in the flesh. The stage area was surrounded by hundreds of lights (candles, oil and ghee lamps) which are traditionally ]it for Diwali. The scene was a blaze of spiritual light. As I was sitting down Marc looked up at me with an inquisitive, raised eyebrow and silently conveyed, What in the hell are you doing here ... what's with the beard and the dhoti, are you completely out of your mind? The other Westerners were also checking me out, having, of course, immediately recognized me. I didn't even want to know their thoughts. All I could think was God, when you fulfill a desire you really go all out. Since this is probably the last time I'll see Maharishi for not being properly invited, I must thank you for the fabulous send-off. I drank in the whole scene. I'd stepped into the ageless, fiery world of the Swami Order of Lord Shankara. A Sanskrit puja was underway in which Maharishi was the deity. A couple of old pujaris were chanting, with one making offerings to Maharishi splashing Ganges water on him, adorning him with green leaves, offering incense, light from ghee lamps, etc. It reminded me of a silent film I'd seen of Maharishi's master, Guru Dev, in which he was worshiped as Shankaracharya in similar fashion. This was a great honor for Maharishi, and demonstrated in the most symbolic way possible that he was held in highest esteem by the present Shankaracharya Order; with both the reigning and retired Shankaracharyas of Jyothirmath in attendance. They obviously regarded Maharishi as the most enlightened disciple of their own guru, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati (Guru Dev). I had heard that Swami Vishnudevananda was supporting Maharishi and his movement in recruiting Indians for the mass group practice of the TM-Sidhi program. Maharishi always generates a feeling of eternality and transcendent silence around him that is the most profound I've ever felt, but I had experienced this most often in the context of large gatherings of Westerners in Europe. In the midst of his own people, including the most illustrious of the Swami Order itself, the feeling was deeper, more natural, because the land and its spiritual history supported it. This was the Whole Thing, the Real Thing as Guru Dev used to say. If this were to be my last sight of the master, I had picked the right night. I felt God smiling on. For the entire evening, Maharishi remained in samadhi, eyes closed. That doesn't mean he was completely lost to the world, though, because at one point I felt as if he were scanning me checking me out with his inner vision. He's far too powerful to not have his attention felt by his teachers. I felt him look right through me, my organs, subtle body, mind, everything. While this was going on, I tried to send him the telepathic message: Lord Shiva got me in here as a boon. If Maharishi was upset about my being here, it was his own fault-he was the one who taught me, in person, the highly effective techniques for locating transcendental consciousness and fulfilling desires through That. I was living proof of his own success this night. I'd gotten through his carefully selected, highly effective human shield and then been delivered at his feet as a VIP. That is the power of the Lord. The deep velvety-red umbrellas of Swami Vishnudevananda Saraswati and Swami Shantanandji Saraswati, embroidered with large gold Sanskrit letters, were obviously very old. To me, they represented the cosmic umbrella that one gets under for spiritual protection when initiated by an enlightened guru into the ancient tradition of the Sanatan Dharma. Each umbrella was imbued with the deep
[FairfieldLife] Re: Music for Yoga and Meditation
[image: Inline image 1] George Harrison - Wonderwall Music http://youtu.be/UllxxMkG7uI All of the tracks were composed by Harrison, and it was the first official solo album by a Beatle. It was the first album release on the newly formed Apple Records, appearing in November 1968, a few weeks before The Beatles (White Album). It would also be the first Apple record to be deleted, though it was remastered and reissued on CD in 1992. While the tracks recorded in England were made on multi-track recording machines and remixed, the Indian portions were recorded live to two-track stereo. 01. 00:00 Microbes 02. 03:43 Red Lady Too 03. 05:41 Tabla and Pakavaj 04. 06:47 In the Park 05. 10:56 Drilling a Home 06. 14:05 Guru Vandana 07. 15:11 Greasy Legs 08. 16:41 Ski-ing 09. 18:31 Gat Kirwani 10. 19:47 Dream Scene 11. 25:15 Party Seacombe 12. 29:51 Love Scene 13. 34:09 Crying 14. 35:28 Cowboy Music 15. 36:58 Fantasy Sequins 16. 38:50 On the Bed 17. 41:13 Glass Box 18. 42:20 Wonderwall to Be Here 19. 43:48 Singing Om On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Bud Shank [image: Inline image 2] Pather Panchali with Ravi Shankar http://youtu.be/oqO_DxrqX4c Ravi Shankar - Sitar Bud Shank - Flute Kanai Dutta - Tabla Nodu Mullick - Tambura Harihar Rao - Percussion Dholak Dennis Budimir - Guitar Gary Peacock - Bass Louis Hayes - Drums Bud Shank was a legend in Hollywood where he played with Stan Kenton's band, Lalo Schifrin, Gábor Szabó, Hugo Montenegro, and as a first-class session muscian. He also had a strong interest in what might now be termed world music, playing Brazilian-influenced jazz with Laurindo Almeida in 1953-54, and in 1962 fusing jazz with Indian traditions in collaboration with Indian composer and sitar-player Ravi Shankar. Also recommended: Improvisations: Bud Shank, Ravi Shankar, and Paul Horn [image: Inline image 1] Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pather_Panchali On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Paul Horn [image: Inline image 1] Paul Horn - Inside the Taj Mahal (prologue) http://youtu.be/NiEUyC72GkI Paul Horn is best known for his Inside the Taj Mahal and Inside India Kashmir on World Pacific Records. Horn attended one of the first TTCs at Rishikesh and Kashmir with MMY. I first met Paul Horn at SIMS in Westwood in 1967 just after his return from India where he meditated with The Beatles. Another of my favorite Paul Horn recordings is called Inside the Great Pyramid of Giza. He has made numerous other inside recordings - inside a cathedral, in the canyons of the Southwestern U.S. and in 1998, inside the Potala Palace inLhasa, Tibet: Journey to the Roof of the World. Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hornhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Horn_%28musician%29 On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Tony Scott [image: Inline image 1] Music for Zen Meditation (1964) http://youtu.be/fp1J8aYzMno Fueled by his burgeoning interest in Far Eastern culture, Scott hooked up with two Japanese master instrumentalists for this classic 1964 date. And while Scott, koto player Shinichi Yuize, and shakuhachi player Hozan Yamamoto produce nine cuts that sound classically Japanese and really nothing like jazz, they do actually improvise pretty much throughout the entire set. Read more: http://www.allmusic.com/artist/tony-scotthttp://www.allmusic.com/artist/tony-scott-mn129778 On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Riley Lee [image: Inline image 1] Photos taken at Strybing Arboretum Botanical Gardens in Golden Gate Park, San Francisco. Three Meditations - From the album Oriental Sunrise http://youtu.be/u3VAqPfZjgI On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Pandit Hariprasad Chaurasia [image: Inline image 1] Listening to this music neutralizes stress and promotes happiness, harmony, peace and balance in your life and in the environment. Maharishi Gandharva Veda (Raga Marwa) http://youtu.be/HDcUvUfMs-M The Bamboo flute (bansuri) in both India and Japan is considered to be the original musical instrument, and is noted for being closest to the human singing voice. The richness from the fine nuances of pitch is accomplished by a subtle blowing technique and by partially covering the seven to eight finger holes. Each flute can only play in one scale. Pandit Hariprasad Chaurasia, born 1938, is an acknoweldged Bansuri master. In 1981, in recognition of his outstanding contribution to music, he was given the National Indian Award of the Sangeet Natak Academy in New Delhi. In 1990, Hari Prasad Chaurasia received the Gaurav Puraskar, one of the most prestigious awards, from the State Government of Maharashtra, India. He also received from the President of India, the coveted Padmabhushan award. Press
[FairfieldLife] Re: Information Technology Systems
Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet Tubes, by Andrew Blum, looks behind the scenes of our digital lives at he physical heart of the internet itself. These tubes are the real places on the map: their sounds and smells, their storied past, their physical details, and the people who live there. Sharing tales of his on-the-ground reporting, along with lucid explanations about how the role of technology in our lives. Excerpt: According to TeleGeography, the most heavily trafficked international Internet route is between New York and London, as if the cities were the two ends of the Internet's brightest tube of light. For the Internet, as for so much else, London is the hinge between east and west, the place where the networks reaching across the Atlantic link up with those extending from Europe, from Africa and India. A bit from Mumbai to Chicago will go through London and then New York, as will one from Madrid to Sao Paulo and Lagos to Dallas. The cities' enjoined gravity pulls in the light, as it pulls in so much else. But despite that, the Internet's physical manifestation in the two cities is completely different. I had started out with the assumption that London is the old world and New York the new. But with the Internet, the opposite turned out to be true. If in Amsterdam the Internet was hidden away in low industrial buildings on the cities' ragged edges, and in New York it colonized art deco palaces, in London it formed a single, concentrated, self-contained district - an office estate, in the British term - just east of Canary Wharf and the City, known formally as East India Quay but by network engineers, and most else, as just Docklands. It was a massive agglomeration, an entire Internet neighborhood. I wondered what was at its heart. And how far into its center I could go. 'Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet' by Andrew Blum Ecco, 2012 On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: It's almost breath taking in it's scope! Imagine the BIOS of your computer hacked by the feds BEFORE it even reaches the stockroom of your local computer store. The BIOS - that's where you want to be if you are a spy agency. Forget tracing your calls; forget meta data warehousing; forget call monitoring; forget putting duck tape over laptop web cam. If they already have BIOS implants in your DELL or HP or whatever brand computer, you are doomed and the game is already over. Here is a simple test: Power up your laptop and leave it on; then exit the room for a few minutes. When you come back, check to see if your weather location is local or Arlington, VA. And, you think you can trick them by simply removing the battery in your cell phone? What if you own one that doesn't have a removable battery? Why do you think they are doing away with cell phones with removable batteries? The ANT division does not just manufacture surveillance hardware. It also develops software for special tasks. The ANT developers have a clear preference for planting their malicious code in so-called BIOS, software located on a computer’s motherboard that is the first thing to load when a computer is turned on. Read more: NSA reportedly intercepting laptops purchased online to install spy malware' http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/29/5253226/nsa-cia-fbi-laptop-usb-plant-spy On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Arrest him and book him! You are fired for lying to the American people. Clear out your desk and leave the building! Officer, arrest this man and book him for serial lying. Bailiff, put this man in chains and take him for the perp walk,immediately! Mr. Biden, get on the phone with that Snowden fellow and get his pardon ready,NOW! Do it! It's not easy to pick the year's most transparent lie from the self-styled “most transparent administration in history.” There are so many to choose from—such a richness of embarrassment. For my money, the biggest presidential lie of the year came on June 7, the week after former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden revealed the agency's secret collection of call records data on millions of Americans. “I welcome this debate,” Obama proclaimed—even as his administration was hunting down the whistleblower who started it and preparing to hit him with 30 years of Espionage Act charges. Read more: 'Obama's Epic Fib About the NSA' http://reason.com/archives/2013/12/24/obamas-epic-fibs-about-the-nsa On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: The ObamaCare disaster is not just a management failure, it's a firing incident. Where I used to work, a system failure this large would be a cause for instant dismissal: *Clean off your desk and get out, you're fired! Officer, escort this person off the premises. And, don't you ever come back! You'll never work in this town again. You fuckin' idiot!* [image: Inline
[FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Darshan
What a fabulous picture of words in this post. Like a photo from the FFL family album. Like one of those family pictures in an album where names are written in with arrows pointing. Thanks to Jay for labeling the people, this is very helpful in bringing them to light. It's a very special picture of a time and people. Jai Gurus Devs, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY#39;s Gunas
With all due respect Share, I don’t think Arjuna was a real character that
reached enlightenment on some battlefield (Kurukshetra) in ancient India .
Though there may indeed have been a mythical battle, and a character called
Arjuna and Krishna , they were only used loosely by Vyasa to convey an
*allegory* representing the struggle between good and evil we all must wage (an
inner Armageddon).
MMY in his translation seems to suggest Arjuna was an actual character that
actually gained enlightenment from Krishna in the middle of an actual war, this
is silly to say the least, and is only an ‘eXoteric’ explanation (much like
taking the Bible literally). The Bhagavad Gita is just an allegory!!
Arjuna merely represents me or you and Krishna the Soul or pure consciousness.
Kuruk shetra is a Sanskrit word meaning the *field of the body* upon which this
battle is waged by every individual (Arjuna) that comes to earth to learn the
lessons of life. MMY *hints* at this in his translation but never really
unfolds the true beauty of Vyasa’s story which requires understanding Sanskrit
and context to discern the true meaning of the words. (See Swami Yogananda’s
Gita for a complete unfoldment of the ‘eSoteric’ meaning).
A mere conversation between Krishna and Arjuna leading to Arjuna's
enlightenment in the middle of a real war?...sorry, it never happened!!
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Richard, my favorite teaching about the gunas is in Ch 4, vs 35 of Maharishi's
commentary on the Gita. He explains that delusion in the state of tamas guna
can be overcome by an increase in rajas; delusion in rajo guna can be overcome
by an increase in sat guna; but delusion in the state of sattva, which is
Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending.
For me this teaching goes well with Maharishi's idea that the mind can't have a
mood on an abstract basis. What this means to me is that our moods are already
present in our physiology, and then the moods get expressed in behavior.
In this sense we have a good amount of control over our moods just by taking
good care of our body: staying rested, eating healthy foods, getting adequate
exercise. I find that when my body is cruising along in a settled state, then
my moods are pretty even also.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 12:00 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote:
The Bhagavad Gita is concerned with three constituents: sattva, rajas and
tamas. The idea is to transcend these three qualities. According to MMY: The
authorship of action does not in reality belong to the I. It is a mistake to
understand that I do this, I experience this and I know this. All action
is performed by the three gunas born of Nature.
The implications of these passages indicate that the nature of the mind is
appreciated as it is, separate from activity. The goal of TM does not consist
in acieving anything or reaching anything, but simply in recognizing what
already is the case, that the I is essentially uninvolved with activity.
Here, the ONLY criterion is internal: is the self cognized as independent of
action - the causal nexus.
The Vedas concern is with the three gunas. Be without the three
gunas O Arjuna, freed from duality, ever possesses of Self.
According to Anthony Campbell, free will is A choice, either determined or
not. If it is determined, it is not free. But if it is determined, to what are
we to ascribe it? Would a freedom based on mere chance be an alternative to
causal determinism? The solution to this question is simple: incorporate into
your model of free will, the mechanics of causal contact itself, contact all
related forms of information in proper proportion, past, present, and future,
i.e. universal causal contact based on contact with Being vis-a-vis TM.
That is to say, Campbell quoting Schrodinger: Every conscious mind that has
ever said or felt I IS the person who controls the motions of the atoms
according to the laws of nature. So, there is authorship of action; causal
contact; and free will.
But he who knows the truth about the divisions of the gunas and
their actions, O mighty armed, knowing that it is the gunas which
act upon the gunas, remains unattached.
Works cited:
'Seven States of Consciousness'
by Anthony Campbell, M.D.
Harper Row, 1974
p. 181
On the Bhagavad Gita
by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
International SRM Publications, 1965
Verse: 27; p. 220; Verse 45: p. 90: Verse 14; p. 259.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mahamantra, by Krishna Das
The Guy The guy Ned was talking about in his book was Billy Clayton, who apparently beat out Ned for the job of Maharishi's skin boy in Fuiggi, causing Ned to fall off the wagon. Ned and I were early adopters and we were both initiated by Jerry Jarvis at the first SIMS in 1965, along with Rick Stanley, Jerry Garcia, and John Densmore. I must admit that Ned's book leaves a lot to be desired, but that part about the plough pose was hilarious! Bhagavandas (Michael Riggs): [image: Inline image 1] Bhagavan Das: Sri Krishna - Now CD http://www.youtube.com/Bhagavandas_Nowhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q50Q9s1ikxofeature=sharelist=PLifWhk5wnZk-z8iuXDDTGYIi6SHNgzmaz The book is an intriguing portrait of what it was like to be right in the middle of it. The real gurus, the fake gurus, the zealous devotees, the drugs, the sex, the confusion. In India he studied with several famous teachers and when he gets back to America, Allen Ginsberg, Alan Watts (who was apparently a notorious drunk!) and Ram Dass, among others are constantly floating in and out of his life. It is also an interesting to see how he dealt with his unwanted fame... About the Book: Michael Riggs left for California and traveled to India searching for something more than the American Dream. Once there, he studied with several teachers including Maharishi, living the austere life of a yogi, eventually falling under the loving blanket of Neem Karoli Baba, who renamed him Bhagavan Das. For seven years Das moved through the subcontinent, from Bombay to Madras, Kashmir to Darjeeling, fully embracing Hinduism and all its practices, worshiping the Divine Mother, and studying Buddhism, Transcendental Meditation, and Tantra. In Nepal he met and became the teacher of Richard Alpert, the Harvard professor, LSD experimenter, and expatriate whom Neem Karoli Baba would rename Ram Dass. After the publication of the bestselling classic Be Here Now, in which Alpert described their experiences together, Bhagavan Das arrived back in the United States to find he was a celebrity. Traveling on the guru circuit - where he forged a number of influential and lasting relationships with other seekers such as Allen Ginsberg, Alan Watts, and Chogyam Trungpa - Bhagavan Das lived more like a rock star than the saint he was proclaimed to be. He spoke and sang in front of groups of thousands, had sex with spiritual groupies, did drugs, and witnessed the hypocrisy of his path and that of his peers. His disillusionment continued to grow; meanwhile, he felt an intense pressure to earn a more traditional living for his wife and children, and for years he struggled to integrate his Eastern mysticism with Western spirituality. In compelling detail, Das explores the myriad of forces that sent him on a tortuous journey that led him to study the peyote culture of the American Indians with Little Joe Gomez, fall under the influence of Joya, become a born-again Christian, follow Ammachi Ma, and eventually, after hitting rock bottom, find a way to reconcile both worlds. Works cited: 'Its Here Now, Are You? A Spiritual Memoir' By Michael Riggs aka 'Bhagavan Das' Broadway Books 1998 'We Will Always Live in Beverly Hills: Growing Up Crazy in Hollywood' by Ned Wynn William Morrow, 1990 Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavan_Dashttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavan_Das_%28yogi%29 On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Krishna Das - Radhe Shyam http://youtu.be/V85aqp6Dz8E One Track Heart Official Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG84IBv7cS0 [image: Inline image 1] Layering traditional Hindu kirtan with instantly accessible melodies and modern instrumentation, Krishna Das has been called yoga’s “rock star.” Krishna Das Live Friday January 20th, 2012 Austin, Texas He Lived as a Sadhu; He Died as a Sadhu: In 1957 Charan Das, originally an American, lived as a sadhu in India for over twenty years. Cheerful and without cares, he roamed the country for part of the year, going from one holy place to the other, visiting with brother-sadhus. He died a few years ago. Excerpt: I can't tell you how surprised and entertained I was to read Anne Cushman's piece in Wanderlust about Charan Das, the sadhu from Texas. I too had several encounters with Charan Das over the course of several years. I met him for the first time in Delhi in early 1990 -- he was a friend of the man I was then seeing, and he kept a supply of his books in my friend's room while he was off wandering. Every once in a while, he would turn up in Delhi and visit my friend (and his books). Read the whole article: http://www.salon.com/letters/1998/04/07letters.html The Sadhu From Texas: http://www.salon.com/1998/04/02/feature_193/ On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, I'm looking at a sweet picture of Neem Karola on my desk. Krishna Das has been to FF twice, said civic center had best
[FairfieldLife] Hail NOK!
Florian Mueller @FOSSpatents Nokia wins German patent injunction against ALL HTC Android devices including the One series. Enforceable against 400 million euro bond. Google tried to help HTC because this patent is infringed by all Android devices. But its invalidity challenge came too late to matter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC
It's not so much the laying down in the corpse pose that is so difficult The question is, what is Richard laying when he's down in the corpse pose? Jelly beans? Golf balls? Chicken McNuggets?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Eat
Here's another bit of important health info for people to know, Share. When you are deciding whether to buy a food item, look closely at the packaging. Somewhere on it, you should be able to find a list headed INGREDIENTS. That means what's in the food. Isn't that amazing? You don't have to guess; it says right on the package! In the case of something like, say, Crystal Light, the list of INGREDIENTS will have Aspartame--that's an artificial sweetener--rather than Sugar (or one of the other names for sugar). So you actually don't have to risk looking like a fool, imo, for saying things such as drinking Crystal Light is like injecting sugar into your veins, because you can just look at the INGREDIENTS and know it doesn't have any sugar in it! Very important for people to know! I mean, Crystal Light's whole reason for being is that it has almost no calories, but you might not realize that probably means it doesn't pump lots of sugar into your bloodstream. So check that INGREDIENTS list! It's really important for you to know! Good point, noozguru, thanks for correction. This kind of health info is important for people to know imo. On Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:27 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Crystal Light is artificially sweetened. Not good to fool the body though if it is actually asking for sugar (doesn't have to be sugar though but some carbs). On 12/29/2013 11:38 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, congratulations for getting off the Crystal Light. Might as well inject sugar right into the veins! Thanks for the recipe too. I love both cabbage and cooked celery. Do you all ever eat baby bok choy? I think it's high in Vit A or something that's hard to get via food. Bon appetite! On Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:33 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: We've been on a special diet for several years now. I used to be on a Zen Macrobiotic organic foods diet and ate a lot of organic rice with Shoyu. Now I'm on a diabetic diet - no table sugar, low carbs, and exercise; Rita is on a weight-loss diet - no carbs, high protein, low sugar. And, we both work out at the Y almost every day and/or take long walks by the San Antonio River or go to the local Dog Park. Sometimes we go to the mall and walk past SAKS on our way to Old Navy. We used to drink Crystal Light but mostly filtered water these days and some good wine on occasion. We still eat out a few times a month. Last night we went to the local theater to see Anchorman II and then to our favorite Tex-Mex restaurant, Taco Flats. Here's Rita's recipe for organic vegetable soup. It's not complicated. Ingredients: Vegetables onion carrots celery cabbage green beans zucchini olive oil tomatoes filtered water 1. Cut up the vegetables into small cubes with a knife 2. Cook the vegies in a large wok or frying pan 3. Fill a large pot with the filtered water 4. Boil the hell out of it for a few minutes 5. Add in the chopped vegies with a scoop 6. Add salt or seasoning to taste 7. Let the mixture steep for ten minutes 8. Serve in bowls and eat with a spoon On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Better ingredients, better pizza? We used to eat pizza all the time. Up in Austin, there's a place called Conan's - they have what they call deep dish pizza - Chicago style, with whole wheat crust if you prefer and with the cheese built right into the crust. Also in Austin there is the Brick Oven where you can watch the pizza being cooked inside a big, domed brick oven fireplace and they use flat shovels on a stick to move the pie in and out. And then you've got your frozen pizza - DiGiorno's, Tombstone, Red Baron, and Tony's. And, then there's Pizza Hut, Pizza Inn, Domino's, Little Caesar's, and Papa John's. So, what exactly are the better ingredients in Papa John's pizza? They won't tell you, but it all comes in the back door on a SYSCO truck, just like all the other pizza joints in town. In Boulder, CO some guys invented a new gas-fired oven where the pizza revolves around inside the oven, instead of slow cooking over a wood-burning fire; the crust is thin, so it cooks faster too. You walk up to the counter, select your toppings, and you get your pizza while you wait at the counter in about 2-3 minutes, not fifteen minutes later like at most places. The joint is called Chipotle Pizza, by the guys that own Chipotle Mexican Restaurants. At Chipotle, they use less cheese and gourmet ingredients like olive oil and basil and stuff. They even have a whole ham with a slicer that cuts the ham off right before your eyes. It's the reverse pizza effect: Italians come to America with a recipe for tomato sauce; the Americans put it on dough bread and spread the sauce all around on it; then the Italians go back to Italy and tell all their
[FairfieldLife] MMY's Adwaita
First came One. It's a leap of metaphysical theorizing to imagine that there is more than One real. Let's be logical: If there were three or more reals instead of One, there would be three or more truths, three or more ultimate realities, and three or more Selfs. But, what do you suppose would cause a person to think there are three are more reals instead of only One? If there were three or more reals, then a person would have three or more soul-monads, instead of just One Soul. If so, then how would you know your Self? Which one would it be - Self number one, Self number two or Self number three, or more Selfs than you could count. That would be confusing if you didn't know which Self you were. You might want to eat, but the other Self might get the food, then Self number one would go about as a hungry ghost. In fact, there is only One truth, the one you really are, your Self. All three other selfs are just an appearance only. Do we agree so far? In fact, the only reason anyone would think there are three or more reals would be if they were told it by someone or they read about it somewhere. People don't usually go about imagining that they are three people - it's not natural and not given in experience. Actually, to imagine that you are three people is abnormal, and this abnormal view is usually gained through intellectual theorizing. Most people don't naturally feel that they have three heads and six arms. So, just give up this idea that you are three persons, give up the idea of I and mine and just do your duty - by your Self. Real renunciation is the giving up of I and mine, not the mere abandoning of duties. - Dattatreya Upanishad Nagarjuna's Law of the Excluded Middle: In reality all phenomena are empty of 'own nature'. There is no 'essence' of things. Things and events and objects have no intrinsic reality apart from conditions. There is dependent origination but no causation - things do not arise from causes; things and events are not created or destroyed; there is no movement. Form is emptiness, emptiness is form. All truth statements are conventional. Change is impossible; things do not move and one thing does not become another thing. Suffering, actions, bodies, doers, and results are all unreal. Time is unreal because present and future are all relative. The Seven States of Consciousness are also unreal. There is neither suffering nor its causation nor a path to its cessation. The three gunas are unreal and there is neither the movement, nor the technique, nor the MMY. Birth, death, suffering and Nirvana itself is an illusion too. Antinomies, dialectics and the four-cornered negation: Sankara and his followers, like Nagarjuna and his followers, say that none of the four forms is applicable to the phenomenal world or any of its objects absolutely, because the phenomenal world is a world of relativity. Not this, That, and neither - Wallah Sutra 1.6. According to Gaudapadacharya, there is One only. There is no creation; no destruction; no coming to be, and no ceasing to be. Things do not change, neither do they move about or stay the same. Things and events are an illusion, not real, yet not unreal. The Transcendental Consciousness is the only Reality. Liberation is the way to avoid the results of actions and to be free. Adwaita In a nutshell: According to Liquorman, writing on Adwaita, there are three issues that must be understood in order to understand Adwaita: The realization that there are *not two*, the realization that things and events are an *illusion*, and the *dispelling of illusion* by process of experiential pure consciousness. The metaphor of a burning firebrand that is waved in a circle, which creates an illusion of a continuous circle of fire has been used to describe the non-dual realization, which when experienced in reality, becomes just a series of point-instants of perception. Works cited:: 'Consciousness Speaks' Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar by Ramesh S. Balsekar and Wayne Liquorman Advaita Press, 1992 'The Book of One: The Spiritual Path of Advaita' by Dennis Waite O Books, 2004 'Dispelling Illusion' Gaudapada's Alatasanti Douglas A. Fox State University of New York Press, 1993
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 30-Dec-13 00:15:08 UTC
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:
Judy does NOT read or write Spanish, German, French, or
Greek. She
just Googles it and then copies and pastes it inthe text box to make you
think she knows those languages.
Sort of like when she tried to fib her way out of you posting
Feliz Navidad - she didn't have a clue what it meant and
thought you were cursing at her. LoL!
Richard, I am truly shocked. Stop lying to Sharon, she is supposed
to be your friend. Go ahead and try and mislead me but why would
you do this to Sharon? Are you trying to make her look stupid?
Shame on you.
Oh, I get it now! When a Canadian posts a message about Judy, it.is
http://it.is a parody; when a guy from Texas posts a message about Judy, it's
a lie. Shame on me for just wanting to have fun at Judy's expense!
Hey, quit using my color. You're compelling me to have to use bold and italic
now to distinguish between your misrepresentation and my truths. And anyway,
dummy, get it straight: it was irony and it was between Robin and Judy not me
and Judy. I hadn't even landed at FFL yet.
Apparently you missed Judy's message where she admitted she didn't read or
write Spanish, German, French, or Greek. So, I just assumed she copied and
pasted it from Google. Where else would she get it? Out of her ass? That still
doesn't answer the question regarding Judy's response to Share about the Feliz
Navidad. Go figure.
No, no, you're the one with rather large objects emerging from your ass,
remember? You even said so yourself so don't quote me on that one. Judy's ass
is doing just fine. Are you that ass?
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 9:54 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...
wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:
It looks like we are the top posters again, Share. Keep up the good work!
P.S. This is where it gets tricky: post something with Judy's name in it -
that will set things off for at least a dozen rounds. Judy loves to see her
name in messages - it's an attention thing. I've never seen Judy not reply to a
parody, not once in ten years.
Here's an example:
Judy does NOT read or write Spanish, German, French, or Greek. She just
Googles it and then copies and pastes it in the text box to make you think she
knows those languages. Sort of like when she tried to fib her way out of you
posting Feliz Navidad - she didn't have a clue what it meant and thought you
were cursing at her. LoL!
Richard, I am truly shocked. Stop lying to Sharon, she is supposed to be your
friend. Go ahead and try and mislead me but why would you do this to Sharon?
Are you trying to make her look stupid? Shame on you.
On 12/29/2013 6:15 PM, FFL PostCount wrote:
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17 emptybill
16 TurquoiseB
15 authfriend
13 dhamiltony2k5
13 Bhairitu
12 bobpriced
11 s3raphita
7 steve.sundur
4 jr_esq
4 doctordumbass
3 nablusoss1008
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC
On 12/30/2013 8:26 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: It's not so much the laying down in the corpse pose that is so difficult * The question is, what is Richard laying when he's down in the corpse pose? Jelly beans? Golf balls? Chicken McNuggets? Many thanks to The Corrector for pointing this out to The Professor. * *Maybe Richard is laying the foundation for a conversation about MMY's yoga poses? Go figure. *
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
ann, for me both restful alertness and loving neutrality have an underlying
reality of lively silence, or being simply humming with potentiality.
Lively silence sounds like an idea although it does sound rather nice. I'm
pretty sure we both heard that from MMY in some lecture or book many times
over. And for sure restful alertness and loving neutrality, although basically
unrelated, could hold some absolute characteristic such as potentiality but
then what doesn't?
On Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:40 PM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@...
wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Thanks for your thoughts on this, Mike. A couple of spiritual teachers that
have been to FF talk about, not indifference but rather what they call loving
neutrality. I think it's a bit like what Maharishi calls restful alertness.
I would have to disagree, Sharon. I don't think being restfully alert is
remotely related to loving neutrality just like I don't think a couple of
spiritual teachers talking about indifference relates to anything Mike was
posting about. I could be missing the boat here so if you want to clarify it
for me that would be welcome.
On Sunday, December 29, 2013 9:25 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:
I think both of these comments are correct.Phil Robertson *bayoubilly*,and
those supporting him, managed to sway public opinion in his favor by convincing
everyone that this was about freedom of religion and freedom of speech. I never
read any comments that GLAAD made concerning the issue. I simply read a number
of the quotes from the GQ article and realized this was one man's views
expressed in a rude and crude manner, then justified as being Biblical.
Perhaps his views are Biblical but not how he expressed it and then saying he
loves everybody and doesn't hate anybody just doesn't wash. That would be like
Christ referring to the adulteress as a slutty, little dirty whore, spreading
disease but I'll forgive you this time if you don't sin anymore. Just didn't
happen that way. By NOT attacking a life style doesn't mean that you agree
with or condone it. Too many people are wrapped up in either loving something
or hating it, loving someone or hating them. There is a middle path and that is
indifference. We hear love the sinner but hate the sin. Why not love the
sinner and be indifferent to their sin, just don't get involved in it and let
them work it out. The Robertson family dodged a bullet and if they are smart,
they'll learn from this ordeal. I'll bet they all spent a lot of sleepless
nights and while they won-out, I don't think they want to go through something
like that again.
From: TurquoiseB turquoiseb@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 5:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Two groups of smug, urban sophisticates got outsmarted by a backwoodsman who
carves duck calls with a pocket knife for a living and shoots ducks for
entertainment. Go figure.
'Who are the losers in the Duck Dynasty flap?'
http://washingtonexaminer.com/duck-dynasty-flap/
http://washingtonexaminer.com/duck-dynasty-flap/
Here's Everything We Learned From the Duck Dynasty Controversy Summed Up in
Just One Sentence You can say whatever you want, including that gay people are
sinful
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson-gay_n_4465564.html
and full of murder, envy, strife, hatred
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/19/phil-robertson-homophobic-2010-sermon_n_4475546.html;
and are in the same league as those who enjoy being penetrated by barnyard
animals
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson-gay_n_4465564.html
and that black people were happy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/19/phil-robertson-black-people_n_4473474.html;
and were not singing the blues
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/19/phil-robertson-black-people_n_4473474.html;
when Jim Crow laws ruled America, and as long as you later tack on I love all
of humanity
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson-gay_n_4465564.html;
and I would never incite or encourage hate
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/27/phil-robertson-back-duck-dynasty_n_4509697.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voicesir=Gay%20Voices;
and throw around the word tolerance
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/a-e-welcomes-phil-robertson-667647,;
and as long as there's enough money and publicity swirling and more ready to be
made, you will face absolutely no consequences
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/27/phil-robertson-back-duck-dynasty_n_4509697.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voicesir=Gay%20Voices
and if anything you'll be celebrated as a hero and lauded as an icon of
freedom -- some will even go so far as
[FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Adwaita
A word to the wise: If you're trying to rebut the Christian idea of the Holy Trinity, it would be good to study up on it first so you don't find yourself setting up straw men to knock down. First came One. It's a leap of metaphysical theorizing to imagine that there is more than One real. Let's be logical: If there were three or more reals instead of One, there would be three or more truths, three or more ultimate realities, and three or more Selfs. But, what do you suppose would cause a person to think there are three are more reals instead of only One?
[FairfieldLife] RE: music royalties
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
PS Yay George - He was my favorite Beatle, followed by Ringo, Paul and John,
in that order. I was ten when I bought my first Beatles album, The Beatles
Second Album for $2.99, and John had the least friendly face.
Ha! Adorable. And my favorite Beatle as a child was George also then John then
Paul then Ringo. I am not sure Ringo was anyone's favorite Beatle, poor sod.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC
Forget Poster of the Year. I nominate Richard for the more prestigious Threw Himself on the Grenade to Save the Rest of Us award. :-) Opsie. Didn't work. Poor Richard.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Roger Ebert says it#39;s all a hoax
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
touching article by his wife
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/news/roger-ebert-final-moments
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/news/roger-ebert-final-moments
Really nice interview. What a deep and abiding love there.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC
Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for the matchless, inimitable Obviousness of
Share Long!
(Wait, or should that be Obliviousness!?)
to bobpriced from an ancient and wise story: Is that so?
On Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:44 AM, bobpriced@... bobpriced@... wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, steve.sundur@... wrote:
Thanks Bob, I feel fortunate to be able spend time with family in a special
place doing fun activities.
First, I do enjoy Richard's writing style. Now, I know that has nothing to do
with content, but style points do count for me.
Second, it has been my observation that some edge has been taken off his
comments*, and because of this, it has made him more readable.
Third, I find Judy to have an overbearing style, lacking tact and the
inability, (purposely or unaware) ignoring nuance. And so, when Richard
attacks her on these fronts, I find it humorous.
As for his content, I enjoy some of the pictures and situations he describes.
I also find some of his links interesting, but I typically don't have the time
to click on them.
That's the best I can do.
I hope your daughter is doing well. I am immensely enjoying skiing with mine.
* Certainly Richards comments to Judy have edge. Please see item three.
Steve,
Thanks for responding. Your gratitude for the family you're been graced with
comes through in your FFL contributions; IMO, it speaks highly of you as a
human being.
Thank you for asking about my daughter, she's doing great and just turned
sixteen.
I understand you find Richard entertaining, but I think we can agree that
being entertained is not the same thing as learning something. I thought when
you mentioned Richard's original content there might be something in his
posts that you found edifying - that I had missed; from what you say here, it
appears that's not the case.
As entertainment, I personally find the voice Richard employs on FFL more than
a little bit grating - not unlike one of those automated customer service bots
you get when you call Future Shop. On the edumacation front, he reads like he
thinks his readership know English as a second language - which could explain
why Judy has opted for macros, and Uriah Heep thinks she's discovered The
Rosetta Stone.
I'm not sure how much original content I've been able to harvest from
Richards offerings, but lets take a look: 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock -
I'm guessing you've heard of ROLLING STONE, if not, I could send you a link;
What People Wear - I'm still recovering from red tie with a maroon shirt;
What People Eat - I mean really, who cares about shopping at WFM when you
have Dean and DeLuca and Eataly (personally, I agree with PJ O'Rourke: Eat
The Rich); and, of course, lets not forget his reports from the front of his
yoga mat (which he does not seem to be visiting enough) - on the history of
consciousness; at best they read like badly written book reviews, and, most
definitely - ALL ABOUT RICHARD. IMO, 90% of his wikipuff output are cut and
paste jobs from the threatened opus he claims he's been working on the last 50
years. Please direct me to anything original in any of this output.
The thread I thought had potential was the one with his snaps of run down
houses, but so far he's failed to close the deal by not somehow pointing out
the irony of these images coming from a tea bagger who's never gone beyond warm
water.
I do admit to the guilty pleasure of watching Uriah Heep cobble together this
unholy alliance between these two old farts in a wind storm - who hated each
other a few weeks ago; not unlike watching the last days of the
Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, just before Operation Barbarossa; old Uriah is nothing
if not obvious.
I disagree with you about Judy; IMO, she's the most effective contributor on
FFL and writes the best sentences on the forum: she' s funny, well informed and
curious; please point to anywhere you've spotted these qualities in Barry's or
Richard's contributions. Judy is obviously strong, smart and independent: be
honest Steve, if Judy was man there wouldn't any of this hostility toward her
passion for accuracy. She does not start these exchanges, but she'll be damned
before she'd let someone pretend accuracy and fairness are not important - just
because it's the Internet.
And since its the award season, and she decided to jump into our conversation
- before I could respond to you; how bout an award for Uriah for The Years Most
Obvious?
Happy New Year to you and your family; and to Richard and Barry: more cowbell
please.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC
Why on earth would you be thrilled? The novels are quite well known. I asked you, 'Favorite character'? You mean like kids have a favorite character in the Harry Potter novels? because I couldn't believe I had understood you correctly. I have never heard an adult say they have a favorite character in a series of adult novels, much less a series of serious novels about the theological and moral struggles of Church of England clerics. I mean, if that's your thing, fine. It sure ain't mine. Have you ever written to Howatch telling her all about your favorite character? I bet she'd be amused, er, delighted. Did you know Yahoo has a Susan Howatch group? Isn't that thrilling!? http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/howatch/info http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/howatch/info Maybe you could join that group and see if any of the members have a favorite Howatch character. Richard, I can empathize. I was thrilled to discover that Judy has also read the novels of Susan Howatch, a favorite author of mine. I asked her who her favorite Howatch character is. She responded with a putdown containing references to teens and Harry Potter! I still think she needs a pitta pacifying diet. On Saturday, December 28, 2013 7:52 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 12/28/2013 6:44 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I learned long ago that interesting is in the eye of the beholder. Apparently you don't find anything interesting that is posted here, except Barry pushing some buttons; the post count; and posting some macros. I thought fer sure you'd make a reply to my comments on Wagner. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] MMY's Yoga Asanas
[image: Inline image 1] http://www.rwilliams.us/yoga/ MMY prepared a Six Month Course, followed by a Second Course of One Year, in Yogas Asanas, which he termed ...a reliable practice from the ancient tradition of Yogis. According to Yogi, Asanas are idealy suited to the fast tempo of modern life in order to keep the body flexible. MMY recommended about ten minutes each day for the Yoga Asanas program. The advantage of asanas over other types of exercise is that Yoga Asanas do not consume energy. This course had been adopted by the International Academy of Meditation at Shankaracharya Nagar, Himalayas. Hatha Yoga, the yoga of force, was developed by Matsyendra, one of the most illustrious of the Mahasiddhas, numbering 84, according to tradition. According to David Gordon White, It was especially within two tantric sects, the Western Transmission and the Yogin Kaula (transmitted by Matsyendra), that a practical concomitant to this speculative - and in some cases gnoseological or soteriological - metaphysics came to be elaborated. This was Hatha Yoga, the method of violent exertion, whose system of the six chakras (wheels [or circles] of transformation) became the centerpiece of the doctrine and practice of the Nath Siddhas - who claim their origins in the person and teachings of Matsyendranath. Theos Bernard completed one of the first studies of Hatha Yoga, and when he returned from India he wrote a famous book entitled simply, Hatha Yoga. In the Preface to his book Bernard wrote: This study is the report of a Westerner who has practiced Yoga under a teacher in India. The primary purpose of the investigation was to test by personal experience the techniques of Hatha Yoga. For this purpose I went to India and Tibet. A fascinating account of the Hatha Yoga Tradition. Works Cited: 'A Six Month Course in Yoga Asanas' by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Rishikesh: International SRM Publications, 1962 'The Alchemical Body' Siddha Traditions in Medieval India by David Gordon White Chicago: University Press, 1996 Paper. 596 pages. Illustrated. Bibliography. Index. 'Hatha Yoga' by Theos Bernard, M.A., Llc., P.hD. New York: Columbia U. Press, 1932 Illustrated. Partial Translations of Hatha Yoga Pradapika. Out of print. Rare. A classic. Other titles by Theos Bernard: 'Penthouse of the Gods' 'Heaven Lies Within You' Philosophical Foundation of India
Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY's Gunas
wgm, what I shared from the Gita about gunas can have practical value, I think,
whether one grants the Gita concrete or allegorical reality.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:09 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
With all due respect Share, I don’t think Arjuna was a real
character that reached enlightenment on some battlefield (Kurukshetra) in
ancient India .
Though there may indeed have been a mythical battle, and a character called
Arjuna and Krishna , they were only used loosely by Vyasa to
convey an *allegory* representing the struggle between good and evil we all
must wage (an inner Armageddon).
MMY in his translation seems to suggest Arjuna was an actual
character that actually gained enlightenment from Krishna
in the middle of an actual war, this is silly to say the least, and is only an
‘eXoteric’
explanation (much like taking the Bible literally). The Bhagavad Gita is just
an allegory!!
Arjuna merely represents me or you and Krishna
the Soul or pure consciousness. Kuruk shetra is a Sanskrit word meaning the
*field of the body* upon which this battle is waged by every individual
(Arjuna) that comes to earth to learn the lessons of life. MMY *hints* at this
in
his translation but never really unfolds the true beauty of Vyasa’s story which
requires understanding Sanskrit and context to discern the true meaning of the
words. (See Swami Yogananda’s Gita for a complete unfoldment of the ‘eSoteric’
meaning).
A mere conversation between Krishna and Arjuna leading to Arjuna's
enlightenment in the middle of a real war?...sorry, it never happened!!
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Richard, my favorite teaching about the gunas is in Ch 4, vs 35 of Maharishi's
commentary on the Gita. He explains that delusion in the state of tamas guna
can be overcome by an increase in rajas; delusion in rajo guna can be overcome
by an increase in sat guna; but delusion in the state of sattva, which is
Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending.
For me this teaching goes well with Maharishi's idea that the mind can't have a
mood on an abstract basis. What this means to me is that our moods are already
present in our physiology, and then the moods get expressed in behavior.
In this sense we have a good amount of control over our moods just by taking
good care of our body: staying rested, eating healthy foods, getting adequate
exercise. I find that when my body is cruising along in a settled state,
then my moods are pretty even also.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 12:00 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote:
The Bhagavad Gita is concerned with three constituents: sattva, rajas and
tamas. The idea is to transcend these three qualities. According to MMY: The
authorship of action does not in reality belong to the I. It is a mistake to
understand that I do this, I experience this and I know this. All action
is performed by the three gunas born of Nature.
The implications of these passages indicate that the nature of the mind is
appreciated as it is, separate from activity. The goal of TM does not consist
in acieving anything or reaching anything, but simply in recognizing what
already is the case, that the I is essentially uninvolved with activity.
Here, the ONLY criterion is internal: is the self cognized as independent of
action - the causal nexus.
The Vedas concern is with the three gunas. Be without the three
gunas O Arjuna, freed from duality, ever possesses of Self.
According to Anthony Campbell, free will is A choice, either determined or
not. If it is determined, it is not free. But if it is determined, to what are
we to ascribe it? Would a freedom based on mere chance be an alternative to
causal determinism? The solution to this question is simple: incorporate into
your model of free will, the mechanics of causal contact itself, contact all
related forms of information in proper proportion, past, present, and future,
i.e. universal causal contact based on contact with Being vis-a-vis TM.
That is to say, Campbell quoting Schrodinger: Every conscious mind that has
ever said or felt I IS the person who controls the motions of the atoms
according to the laws of nature. So, there is authorship of action; causal
contact; and free will.
But he who knows the truth about the divisions of the gunas and
their actions, O mighty armed, knowing that it is the gunas which
act upon the gunas, remains unattached.
Works cited:
'Seven States of Consciousness'
by Anthony Campbell, M.D.
Harper Row, 1974
p. 181
On the Bhagavad Gita
by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
International SRM Publications, 1965
Verse: 27; p. 220; Verse 45: p. 90: Verse 14; p. 259.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
Ann, great point! It got me to realize that everything is both potentiality and
actuality. For example, something red is red in actuality. But it is also blue
and green and yellow and orange, etc. in potentiality!
On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:47 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
ann, for me both restful alertness and loving neutrality have an underlying
reality of lively silence, or being simply humming with potentiality.
Lively silence sounds like an idea although it does sound rather nice. I'm
pretty sure we both heard that from MMY in some lecture or book many times
over. And for sure restful alertness and loving neutrality, although basically
unrelated, could hold some absolute characteristic such as potentiality but
then what doesn't?
On Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:40 PM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@...
wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Thanks for your thoughts on this, Mike. A couple of spiritual teachers that
have been to FF talk about, not indifference but rather what they call loving
neutrality. I think it's a bit like what Maharishi calls restful alertness.
I would have to disagree, Sharon. I don't think being restfully alert is
remotely related to loving neutrality just like I don't think a couple of
spiritual teachers talking about indifference relates to anything Mike was
posting about. I could be missing the boat here so if you want to clarify it
for me that would be welcome.
On Sunday, December 29, 2013 9:25 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:
I think both of these comments are correct.Phil Robertson *bayoubilly*,and
those supporting him, managed to sway public opinion in his favor by convincing
everyone that this was about freedom of religion and freedom of speech. I never
read any comments that GLAAD made concerning the issue. I simply read a number
of the quotes from the GQ article and realized this was one man's views
expressed in a rude and crude manner, then justified as being Biblical.
Perhaps his views are Biblical but not how he expressed it and then saying he
loves everybody and doesn't hate anybody just doesn't wash. That would be like
Christ referring to the adulteress as a slutty, little dirty whore, spreading
disease but I'll forgive you this time if you don't sin anymore. Just didn't
happen that way. By NOT attacking a life style doesn't mean that you agree
with or condone it. Too many people are wrapped up in either loving something
or hating it, loving someone or hating
them. There is a middle path and that is indifference. We hear love the
sinner but hate the sin. Why not love the sinner and be indifferent to their
sin, just don't get involved in it and let them work it out. The Robertson
family dodged a bullet and if they are smart, they'll learn from this ordeal.
I'll bet they all spent a lot of sleepless nights and while they won-out, I
don't think they want to go through something like that again.
From: TurquoiseB turquoiseb@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 5:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Two groups of smug, urban sophisticates got outsmarted by a backwoodsman who
carves duck calls with a pocket knife for a living and shoots ducks for
entertainment. Go figure.
'Who are the losers in the Duck Dynasty flap?'
http://washingtonexaminer.com/duck-dynasty-flap/
Here's Everything We Learned From the Duck Dynasty Controversy Summed Up in
Just One Sentence You can say whatever you want, including that gay people are
sinful and full of murder, envy, strife, hatred and are in the same league as
those who enjoy beingpenetrated by barnyard animals and that black people were
happy and were not singing the blues when Jim Crow laws ruled America, and
as long as you later tack on I love all of humanity and I would never incite
or encourage hate and throw around the word tolerance, and as long as
there's enough money and publicity swirling and more ready to be made, you will
face absolutely no consequences and if anything you'll be celebrated as a hero
and lauded as an icon of freedom -- some will even go so far as to call you the
Rosa Parks of our generation -- while the people you were talking about will
still be vilified and will have to fight even harder against society's belief
that they are -- even in
the 21st century, even in a country that is not supposed to be ruled by
religion or heartless, hateful zealots -- at their very core all of those vile
and (let it be said once and for all) patently untrue things that you said
about
them.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/noah-michelson/heres-everything-we-learn_b_4509998.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC
Judy, thanks for info about Howatch yahoo group. On Monday, December 30, 2013 9:04 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Why on earth would you be thrilled? The novels are quite well known. I asked you, 'Favorite character'? You mean like kids have a favorite character in the Harry Potter novels? because I couldn't believe I had understood you correctly. I have never heard an adult say they have a favorite character in a series of adult novels, much less a series of serious novels about the theological and moral struggles of Church of England clerics. I mean, if that's your thing, fine. It sure ain't mine. Have you ever written to Howatch telling her all about your favorite character? I bet she'd be amused, er, delighted. Did you know Yahoo has a Susan Howatch group? Isn't that thrilling!? http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/howatch/info Maybe you could join that group and see if any of the members have a favorite Howatch character. Richard, I can empathize. I was thrilled to discover that Judy has also read the novels of Susan Howatch, a favorite author of mine. I asked her who her favorite Howatch character is. She responded with a putdown containing references to teens and Harry Potter! I still think she needs a pitta pacifying diet. On Saturday, December 28, 2013 7:52 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 12/28/2013 6:44 PM, authfriend@... wrote: I learned long ago that interesting is in the eye of the beholder. Apparently you don't find anything interesting that is posted here, except Barry pushing some buttons; the post count; and posting some macros. I thought fer sure you'd make a reply to my comments on Wagner. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
I'm not sure that's Ann's point, but she can address that.
My point would be that since lively silence is said to be the underlying
reality of everything, it's not meaningful to say it underlies some particular
thing, as if that were a distinguishing feature.
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Ann, great point! It got me to realize that everything is both potentiality
and actuality. For example, something red is red in actuality. But it is also
blue and green and yellow and orange, etc. in potentiality!
On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:47 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@...
wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
ann, for me both restful alertness and loving neutrality have an underlying
reality of lively silence, or being simply humming with potentiality.
Lively silence sounds like an idea although it does sound rather nice. I'm
pretty sure we both heard that from MMY in some lecture or book many times
over. And for sure restful alertness and loving neutrality, although basically
unrelated, could hold some absolute characteristic such as potentiality but
then what doesn't?
On Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:40 PM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@...
wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Thanks for your thoughts on this, Mike. A couple of spiritual teachers that
have been to FF talk about, not indifference but rather what they call loving
neutrality. I think it's a bit like what Maharishi calls restful alertness.
I would have to disagree, Sharon. I don't think being restfully alert is
remotely related to loving neutrality just like I don't think a couple of
spiritual teachers talking about indifference relates to anything Mike was
posting about. I could be missing the boat here so if you want to clarify it
for me that would be welcome.
On Sunday, December 29, 2013 9:25 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:
I think both of these comments are correct.Phil Robertson *bayoubilly*,and
those supporting him, managed to sway public opinion in his favor by convincing
everyone that this was about freedom of religion and freedom of speech. I never
read any comments that GLAAD made concerning the issue. I simply read a number
of the quotes from the GQ article and realized this was one man's views
expressed in a rude and crude manner, then justified as being Biblical.
Perhaps his views are Biblical but not how he expressed it and then saying he
loves everybody and doesn't hate anybody just doesn't wash. That would be like
Christ referring to the adulteress as a slutty, little dirty whore, spreading
disease but I'll forgive you this time if you don't sin anymore. Just didn't
happen that way. By NOT attacking a life style doesn't mean that you agree
with or condone it. Too many people are wrapped up in either loving something
or hating it, loving someone or hating them. There is a middle path and that is
indifference. We hear love the sinner but hate the sin. Why not love the
sinner and be indifferent to their sin, just don't get involved in it and let
them work it out. The Robertson family dodged a bullet and if they are smart,
they'll learn from this ordeal. I'll bet they all spent a lot of sleepless
nights and while they won-out, I don't think they want to go through something
like that again.
From: TurquoiseB turquoiseb@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 5:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Two groups of smug, urban sophisticates got outsmarted by a backwoodsman who
carves duck calls with a pocket knife for a living and shoots ducks for
entertainment. Go figure.
'Who are the losers in the Duck Dynasty flap?'
http://washingtonexaminer.com/duck-dynasty-flap/
http://washingtonexaminer.com/duck-dynasty-flap/
Here's Everything We Learned From the Duck Dynasty Controversy Summed Up in
Just One Sentence You can say whatever you want, including that gay people are
sinful
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson-gay_n_4465564.html
and full of murder, envy, strife, hatred
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/19/phil-robertson-homophobic-2010-sermon_n_4475546.html;
and are in the same league as those who enjoy being penetrated by barnyard
animals
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson-gay_n_4465564.html
and that black people were happy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/19/phil-robertson-black-people_n_4473474.html;
and were not singing the blues
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/19/phil-robertson-black-people_n_4473474.html;
when Jim Crow laws ruled America, and as long as you later tack on I love all
of humanity
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson-gay_n_4465564.html;
and I would
[FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Gunas
This interpretation is very helpful.
Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY's Adwaita
Richard, my pastoral counselor and her husband really like Wayne Liquorman. I think Rick has interviewed him. I like Francis Lucille and advaita in general. I think the operative principle in all this is knowledge is structured in consciousness. Meaning, unless one's words have a huge amount of shakti, it's pointless to tell a person in duality that it's all one. That simply creates cognitive dissonance. OTOH, I have been experiencing that big T Truth can move mountains. Of stress that is! (-: On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:38 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: First came One. It's a leap of metaphysical theorizing to imagine that there is more than One real. Let's be logical: If there were three or more reals instead of One, there would be three or more truths, three or more ultimate realities, and three or more Selfs. But, what do you suppose would cause a person to think there are three are more reals instead of only One? If there were three or more reals, then a person would have three or more soul-monads, instead of just One Soul. If so, then how would you know your Self? Which one would it be - Self number one, Self number two or Self number three, or more Selfs than you could count. That would be confusing if you didn't know which Self you were. You might want to eat, but the other Self might get the food, then Self number one would go about as a hungry ghost. In fact, there is only One truth, the one you really are, your Self. All three other selfs are just an appearance only. Do we agree so far? In fact, the only reason anyone would think there are three or more reals would be if they were told it by someone or they read about it somewhere. People don't usually go about imagining that they are three people - it's not natural and not given in experience. Actually, to imagine that you are three people is abnormal, and this abnormal view is usually gained through intellectual theorizing. Most people don't naturally feel that they have three heads and six arms. So, just give up this idea that you are three persons, give up the idea of I and mine and just do your duty - by your Self. Real renunciation is the giving up of I and mine, not the mere abandoning of duties. - Dattatreya Upanishad Nagarjuna's Law of the Excluded Middle: In reality all phenomena are empty of 'own nature'. There is no 'essence' of things. Things and events and objects have no intrinsic reality apart from conditions. There is dependent origination but no causation - things do not arise from causes; things and events are not created or destroyed; there is no movement. Form is emptiness, emptiness is form. All truth statements are conventional. Change is impossible; things do not move and one thing does not become another thing. Suffering, actions, bodies, doers, and results are all unreal. Time is unreal because present and future are all relative. The Seven States of Consciousness are also unreal. There is neither suffering nor its causation nor a path to its cessation. The three gunas are unreal and there is neither the movement, nor the technique, nor the MMY. Birth, death, suffering and Nirvana itself is an illusion too. Antinomies, dialectics and the four-cornered negation: Sankara and his followers, like Nagarjuna and his followers, say that none of the four forms is applicable to the phenomenal world or any of its objects absolutely, because the phenomenal world is a world of relativity. Not this, That, and neither - Wallah Sutra 1.6. According to Gaudapadacharya, there is One only. There is no creation; no destruction; no coming to be, and no ceasing to be. Things do not change, neither do they move about or stay the same. Things and events are an illusion, not real, yet not unreal. The Transcendental Consciousness is the only Reality. Liberation is the way to avoid the results of actions and to be free. Adwaita In a nutshell: According to Liquorman, writing on Adwaita, there are three issues that must be understood in order to understand Adwaita: The realization that there are *not two*, the realization that things and events are an *illusion*, and the *dispelling of illusion* by process of experiential pure consciousness. The metaphor of a burning firebrand that is waved in a circle, which creates an illusion of a continuous circle of fire has been used to describe the non-dual realization, which when experienced in reality, becomes just a series of point-instants of perception. Works cited:: 'Consciousness Speaks' Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar by Ramesh S. Balsekar and Wayne Liquorman Advaita Press, 1992 'The Book of One: The Spiritual Path of Advaita' by Dennis Waite O Books, 2004 'Dispelling Illusion' Gaudapada's Alatasanti Douglas A. Fox State University of New York Press, 1993
Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY#39;s Gunas
Oh yes Share, there is no doubt about that. I'll tell you a story, when I at
first saw Yogananda's Gita translation on the book shelf at Border's I thought
I didn't need to read another translation of the Gita, after all, I got
it...from MMY.
Then I looked a little further and decided I'd wade through the two volume set
and just see for myself if I was missing anything. I was blown away by how much
I WAS missing and the beauty and the justice Yogananda does to Vyasa's
*masterpiece*.
In short, don't sell yourself short by stopping at reading only MMY's
translation, though a good beginning translation (though incomplete) it barely
scratches the surface of this great allegory and WHY it was considered great,
remember Yogananda's translation came out well AFTER MMY's in spite of
Yogananda being long gone.
MMY just used the Gita for his own purposes and not to do justice to what
Vyasa actually said. If you read only MMY's version you won't understand why it
is considered to be a MasterPiece, what you get with MMY is a lot of Indian
Philosophy in general, and MMY's interpretation of that, specifically, which is
a good start but not a very good reading of the Gita, iMHO.
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
wgm, what I shared from the Gita about gunas can have practical value, I
think, whether one grants the Gita concrete or allegorical reality.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:09 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
With all due respect Share, I don’t think Arjuna was a real character that
reached enlightenment on some battlefield (Kurukshetra) in ancient India .
Though there may indeed have been a mythical battle, and a character called
Arjuna and Krishna , they were only used loosely by Vyasa to convey an
*allegory* representing the struggle between good and evil we all must wage (an
inner Armageddon).
MMY in his translation seems to suggest Arjuna was an actual character that
actually gained enlightenment from Krishna in the middle of an actual war, this
is silly to say the least, and is only an ‘eXoteric’ explanation (much like
taking the Bible literally). The Bhagavad Gita is just an allegory!!
Arjuna merely represents me or you and Krishna the Soul or pure consciousness.
Kuruk shetra is a Sanskrit word meaning the *field of the body* upon which this
battle is waged by every individual (Arjuna) that comes to earth to learn the
lessons of life. MMY *hints* at this in his translation but never really
unfolds the true beauty of Vyasa’s story which requires understanding Sanskrit
and context to discern the true meaning of the words. (See Swami Yogananda’s
Gita for a complete unfoldment of the ‘eSoteric’ meaning).
A mere conversation between Krishna and Arjuna leading to Arjuna's
enlightenment in the middle of a real war?...sorry, it never happened!!
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Richard, my favorite teaching about the gunas is in Ch 4, vs 35 of Maharishi's
commentary on the Gita. He explains that delusion in the state of tamas guna
can be overcome by an increase in rajas; delusion in rajo guna can be overcome
by an increase in sat guna; but delusion in the state of sattva, which is
Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending.
For me this teaching goes well with Maharishi's idea that the mind can't have a
mood on an abstract basis. What this means to me is that our moods are already
present in our physiology, and then the moods get expressed in behavior.
In this sense we have a good amount of control over our moods just by taking
good care of our body: staying rested, eating healthy foods, getting adequate
exercise. I find that when my body is cruising along in a settled state, then
my moods are pretty even also.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 12:00 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote:
The Bhagavad Gita is concerned with three constituents: sattva, rajas and
tamas. The idea is to transcend these three qualities. According to MMY: The
authorship of action does not in reality belong to the I. It is a mistake to
understand that I do this, I experience this and I know this. All action
is performed by the three gunas born of Nature.
The implications of these passages indicate that the nature of the mind is
appreciated as it is, separate from activity. The goal of TM does not consist
in acieving anything or reaching anything, but simply in recognizing what
already is the case, that the I is essentially uninvolved with activity.
Here, the ONLY criterion is internal: is the self cognized as independent of
action - the causal nexus.
The Vedas concern is with the three gunas. Be without the three
gunas O Arjuna, freed from duality, ever possesses of Self.
According to Anthony Campbell, free will is A choice, either determined or
not. If it is determined, it is not free. But if it is determined, to
Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY's Gunas
Thank you for the recommendation, wgm. I'd enjoy Yogananda's simply because I
know who he is and I've read Autobiography of a Yogi. Here's how that happened:
in Dec 1974 I was in Yes health food restaurant in DC one evening shortly after
I separated from my husband and before I began TM. There was a gorgeous young
man was staring at me! He got up from his table and walked towards me and put a
copy of Autobiography on my table. Then he walked away! I read it,. Three
months later I began TM.
I also have a Gita translated by Swami Swarupananda.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 10:05 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Oh yes Share, there is no doubt about that. I'll tell you a story, when I at
first saw Yogananda's Gita translation on the book shelf at Border's I thought
I didn't need to read another translation of the Gita, after all, I got
it...from MMY.
Then I looked a little further and decided I'd wade through the two volume set
and just see for myself if I was missing anything. I was blown away by how much
I WAS missing and the beauty and the justice Yogananda does to Vyasa's
*masterpiece*.
In short, don't sell yourself short by stopping at reading only MMY's
translation, though a good beginning translation (though incomplete) it barely
scratches the surface of this great allegory and WHY it was considered great,
remember Yogananda's translation came out well AFTER MMY's in spite of
Yogananda being long gone.
MMY just used the Gita for his own purposes and not to do justice to what
Vyasa actually said. If you read only MMY's version you won't understand why it
is considered to be a MasterPiece, what you get with MMY is a lot of Indian
Philosophy in general, and MMY's interpretation of that, specifically, which is
a good start but not a very good reading of the Gita, iMHO.
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
wgm, what I shared from the Gita about gunas can have practical value, I think,
whether one grants the Gita concrete or allegorical reality.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:09 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
With all due respect Share, I don’t think Arjuna was a real
character that reached enlightenment on some battlefield (Kurukshetra) in
ancient India .
Though there may indeed have been a mythical battle, and a character called
Arjuna and Krishna , they were only used loosely by Vyasa to
convey an *allegory* representing the struggle between good and evil we all
must wage (an inner Armageddon).
MMY in his translation seems to suggest Arjuna was an actual
character that actually gained enlightenment from Krishna
in the middle of an actual war, this is silly to say the least, and is only an
‘eXoteric’
explanation (much like taking the Bible literally). The Bhagavad Gita is just
an allegory!!
Arjuna merely represents me or you and Krishna
the Soul or pure consciousness. Kuruk shetra is a Sanskrit word meaning the
*field of the body* upon which this battle is waged by every individual
(Arjuna) that comes to earth to learn the lessons of life. MMY *hints* at this
in
his translation but never really unfolds the true beauty of Vyasa’s story which
requires understanding Sanskrit and context to discern the true meaning of the
words. (See Swami Yogananda’s Gita for a complete unfoldment of the ‘eSoteric’
meaning).
A mere conversation between Krishna and Arjuna leading to Arjuna's
enlightenment in the middle of a real war?...sorry, it never happened!!
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Richard, my favorite teaching about the gunas is in Ch 4, vs 35 of Maharishi's
commentary on the Gita. He explains that delusion in the state of tamas guna
can be overcome by an increase in rajas; delusion in rajo guna can be overcome
by an increase in sat guna; but delusion in the state of sattva, which is
Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending.
For me this teaching goes well with Maharishi's idea that the mind can't have a
mood on an
abstract basis. What this means to me is that our moods are already present in
our physiology, and then the
moods get expressed in behavior.
In this sense we have a good amount of control over our moods just by taking
good care of our body: staying rested, eating healthy foods, getting adequate
exercise. I find that when my body is cruising along in a settled state,
then my moods are pretty even also.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 12:00 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote:
The Bhagavad Gita is concerned with three constituents: sattva, rajas and
tamas. The idea is to transcend these three qualities. According to MMY: The
authorship of action does not in reality belong to the I. It is a mistake to
understand that I do this, I experience this and I know this. All action
is performed by the three gunas born of Nature.
The implications of these passages indicate that the nature of the mind is
appreciated as it is,
[FairfieldLife] This is the best time of the year for media pirates
We call it screener season. It's the end of the year, and both films and TV are jockeying for nominations from the various members of the nominating bodies. So, because the rules often say that you cannot actually vote for a film or a TV show unless you have seen it, they arrange private, elite screenings in the best theaters in town. But still, many of the members are as jaded as the rest of us, and have better screening rooms in their homes than exist in the theaters. So the producers send them screeners, either as DVDs or Blurays, so they can watch them at home. The people sending out these screeners encrypt them and insert special visible codes into them so that if any of them leak and become available on the Internet, they can know who leaked them, and cut them out of the loop next year. That's the theory, anyway. The theory is just so much bullshit. Any screener released to the Academy or the Golden Globes voters ends up in the pirate verse within days, all of its encryption and hidden codes gone. The media companies hate it. We pirates love it. No more CAM jobs created by taking a cheap video camera into a theater and pointing it at the screen. Nope, these are pristine copies, and on a good TV and sound system like mine, pretty close to the theater experience. Anyway, this is the season for them to appear, and they've started to. I currently have in my To Watch pile pristine copies of the new The Hobbit movie, The Butler, All Is Lost, Blue Is The Warmest Color, Mandela: Long Walk To Freedom, and the one I'm looking forward to the most (Her not being available yet), American Hustle. For some reason, however, this Monday-off-work afternoon, I decided to start with something light. It's a Ron Howard film, and he's iffy, but I thought I'd give classic macho a chance. I was not disappointed by the opening lines, 25 drivers start every season in Formula One, and each year, two of us die. What kind of person does a job like this? Rebels, lunatics, dreamers. People who are desperate to make a mark, and willing to die trying. I'm watching this one first because today IS a kinda light, happy day for me, and I'm not up for the heaviness of some of the other offerings. And also because I actually saw Niki Lauda and James Hunt race against each other, and it was fascinating, even from the stands. If you've never been behind the wheel of a racing car (I have been lucky enough to have done so), it's a more macho sport than almost anything else you can imagine. The movie is called Rush, and it's about the last era of F1 racing I followed, having grown up on earlier eras that featured even more flamboyent drivers like Stirling Moss and Graham Hill. But don't get your hopes up. This is *not* a great movie, and not even a great racing movie, even if you're a guy. There have been better. But it was perfect for this afternoon, and I don't regret having watched it, or skimmed through it, which is more accurate. If you love cars, and remember the great open-wheel racing cars of the 70s, you might like it, too. Those who have never seen the wrong side of 150 mph on their speedometers...or even wanted to...might want to skip it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY#39;s Gunas
Cool, what happened to the, gorgeous young man? Sounds like a novel in the
making to me! ;-)
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Thank you for the recommendation, wgm. I'd enjoy Yogananda's simply because I
know who he is and I've read Autobiography of a Yogi. Here's how that happened:
in Dec 1974 I was in Yes health food restaurant in DC one evening shortly after
I separated from my husband and before I began TM. There was a gorgeous young
man was staring at me! He got up from his table and walked towards me and put a
copy of Autobiography on my table. Then he walked away! I read it,. Three
months later I began TM.
I also have a Gita translated by Swami Swarupananda.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 10:05 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Oh yes Share, there is no doubt about that. I'll tell you a story, when I at
first saw Yogananda's Gita translation on the book shelf at Border's I thought
I didn't need to read another translation of the Gita, after all, I got
it...from MMY.
Then I looked a little further and decided I'd wade through the two volume set
and just see for myself if I was missing anything. I was blown away by how much
I WAS missing and the beauty and the justice Yogananda does to Vyasa's
*masterpiece*.
In short, don't sell yourself short by stopping at reading only MMY's
translation, though a good beginning translation (though incomplete) it barely
scratches the surface of this great allegory and WHY it was considered great,
remember Yogananda's translation came out well AFTER MMY's in spite of
Yogananda being long gone.
MMY just used the Gita for his own purposes and not to do justice to what
Vyasa actually said. If you read only MMY's version you won't understand why it
is considered to be a MasterPiece, what you get with MMY is a lot of Indian
Philosophy in general, and MMY's interpretation of that, specifically, which is
a good start but not a very good reading of the Gita, iMHO.
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
wgm, what I shared from the Gita about gunas can have practical value, I
think, whether one grants the Gita concrete or allegorical reality.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:09 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
With all due respect Share, I don’t think Arjuna was a real character that
reached enlightenment on some battlefield (Kurukshetra) in ancient India .
Though there may indeed have been a mythical battle, and a character called
Arjuna and Krishna , they were only used loosely by Vyasa to convey an
*allegory* representing the struggle between good and evil we all must wage (an
inner Armageddon).
MMY in his translation seems to suggest Arjuna was an actual character that
actually gained enlightenment from Krishna in the middle of an actual war, this
is silly to say the least, and is only an ‘eXoteric’ explanation (much like
taking the Bible literally). The Bhagavad Gita is just an allegory!!
Arjuna merely represents me or you and Krishna the Soul or pure consciousness.
Kuruk shetra is a Sanskrit word meaning the *field of the body* upon which this
battle is waged by every individual (Arjuna) that comes to earth to learn the
lessons of life. MMY *hints* at this in his translation but never really
unfolds the true beauty of Vyasa’s story which requires understanding Sanskrit
and context to discern the true meaning of the words. (See Swami Yogananda’s
Gita for a complete unfoldment of the ‘eSoteric’ meaning).
A mere conversation between Krishna and Arjuna leading to Arjuna's
enlightenment in the middle of a real war?...sorry, it never happened!!
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Richard, my favorite teaching about the gunas is in Ch 4, vs 35 of Maharishi's
commentary on the Gita. He explains that delusion in the state of tamas guna
can be overcome by an increase in rajas; delusion in rajo guna can be overcome
by an increase in sat guna; but delusion in the state of sattva, which is
Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending.
For me this teaching goes well with Maharishi's idea that the mind can't have a
mood on an abstract basis. What this means to me is that our moods are already
present in our physiology, and then the moods get expressed in behavior.
In this sense we have a good amount of control over our moods just by taking
good care of our body: staying rested, eating healthy foods, getting adequate
exercise. I find that when my body is cruising along in a settled state, then
my moods are pretty even also.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 12:00 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote:
The Bhagavad Gita is concerned with three constituents: sattva, rajas and
tamas. The idea is to transcend these three qualities. According to MMY: The
authorship of action does not in reality belong to the I. It is a mistake to
understand that
Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY's Gunas
wgm, never saw him again! Like I said, I began TM 3 months later; came to MIU 6
months after that. Some funny karma, I guess. Hope he's doing well, whatever
he's doing (-:
On Monday, December 30, 2013 10:57 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Cool, what happened to the, gorgeous young man? Sounds like a novel in the
making to me! ;-)
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Thank you for the recommendation, wgm. I'd enjoy Yogananda's simply because I
know who he is and I've read Autobiography of a Yogi. Here's how that happened:
in Dec 1974 I was in Yes health food restaurant in DC one evening shortly after
I separated from my husband and before I began TM. There was a gorgeous young
man was staring at me! He got up from his table and walked towards me and put a
copy of Autobiography on my table. Then he walked away! I read it,. Three
months later I began TM.
I also have a Gita translated by Swami Swarupananda.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 10:05 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Oh yes Share, there is no doubt about that. I'll tell you a story, when I at
first saw Yogananda's Gita translation on the book shelf at Border's I thought
I didn't need to read another translation of the Gita, after all, I got
it...from MMY.
Then I looked a little further and decided I'd wade through the two volume set
and just see for myself if I was missing anything. I was blown away by how much
I WAS missing and the beauty and the justice Yogananda does to Vyasa's
*masterpiece*.
In short, don't sell yourself short by stopping at reading only MMY's
translation, though a good beginning translation (though incomplete) it barely
scratches the surface of this great allegory and WHY it was considered great,
remember Yogananda's translation came out well AFTER MMY's in spite of
Yogananda being long gone.
MMY just used the Gita for his own purposes and not to do justice to what
Vyasa actually said. If you read only MMY's version you won't understand why it
is considered to be a MasterPiece, what you get with MMY is a lot of Indian
Philosophy in general, and MMY's interpretation of that, specifically, which is
a good start but not a very good reading of the Gita, iMHO.
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
wgm, what I shared from the Gita about gunas can have practical value, I think,
whether one grants the Gita concrete or allegorical reality.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:09 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
With all due respect Share, I don’t think Arjuna was a real
character that reached enlightenment on some battlefield (Kurukshetra) in
ancient India .
Though there may indeed have been a mythical battle, and a character called
Arjuna and Krishna , they were only used loosely by Vyasa to
convey an *allegory* representing the struggle between good and evil we all
must wage (an inner Armageddon).
MMY in his translation seems to suggest Arjuna was an actual
character that actually gained enlightenment from Krishna
in the middle of an actual war, this is silly to say the least, and is only an
‘eXoteric’
explanation (much like taking the Bible literally). The Bhagavad Gita is just
an allegory!!
Arjuna merely represents me or you and Krishna
the Soul or pure consciousness. Kuruk shetra is a Sanskrit word meaning the
*field of the body* upon which this battle is waged by every individual
(Arjuna) that comes to earth to learn the lessons of life. MMY *hints* at this
in
his translation but never really unfolds the true beauty of Vyasa’s story which
requires understanding Sanskrit and context to discern the true meaning of the
words. (See Swami Yogananda’s Gita for a complete unfoldment of the ‘eSoteric’
meaning).
A mere conversation between Krishna and Arjuna leading to Arjuna's
enlightenment in the middle of a real war?...sorry, it never happened!!
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Richard, my favorite teaching about the gunas is in Ch 4, vs 35 of Maharishi's
commentary on the Gita. He explains that delusion in the state of tamas guna
can be overcome by an increase in rajas; delusion in rajo guna can be overcome
by an increase in sat guna; but delusion in the state of sattva, which is
Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending.
For me this teaching goes well with Maharishi's idea that the mind can't have a
mood on an
abstract basis. What this means to me is that our moods are already present in
our physiology, and then the
moods get expressed in behavior.
In this sense we have a good amount of control over our moods just by taking
good care of our body: staying rested, eating healthy foods, getting adequate
exercise. I find that when my body is cruising along in a settled state,
then my moods are pretty even also.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 12:00 AM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote:
The Bhagavad Gita is concerned
Re: [FairfieldLife] This is the best time of the year for media pirates
You're listing mostly corporate Hollywood movies which I don't care to watch let alone buy a ticket for. I would go see Scorsese's latest if it wasn't three hours long. Did he make it for India? Who wants to sit in a theater for three hours where you can't find the pause button. :-D On 12/30/2013 08:35 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: */We call it screener season. It's the end of the year, and both films and TV are jockeying for nominations from the various members of the nominating bodies. So, because the rules often say that you cannot actually vote for a film or a TV show unless you have seen it, they arrange private, elite screenings in the best theaters in town. But still, many of the members are as jaded as the rest of us, and have better screening rooms in their homes than exist in the theaters. So the producers send them screeners, either as DVDs or Blurays, so they can watch them at home. The people sending out these screeners encrypt them and insert special visible codes into them so that if any of them leak and become available on the Internet, they can know who leaked them, and cut them out of the loop next year. That's the theory, anyway. The theory is just so much bullshit. Any screener released to the Academy or the Golden Globes voters ends up in the pirate verse within days, all of its encryption and hidden codes gone. The media companies hate it. We pirates love it. No more CAM jobs created by taking a cheap video camera into a theater and pointing it at the screen. Nope, these are pristine copies, and on a good TV and sound system like mine, pretty close to the theater experience. Anyway, this is the season for them to appear, and they've started to. I currently have in my To Watch pile pristine copies of the new The Hobbit movie, The Butler, All Is Lost, Blue Is The Warmest Color, Mandela: Long Walk To Freedom, and the one I'm looking forward to the most (Her not being available yet), American Hustle. For some reason, however, this Monday-off-work afternoon, I decided to start with something light. It's a Ron Howard film, and he's iffy, but I thought I'd give classic macho a chance. I was not disappointed by the opening lines, 25 drivers start every season in Formula One, and each year, two of us die. What kind of person does a job like this? Rebels, lunatics, dreamers. People who are desperate to make a mark, and willing to die trying. I'm watching this one first because today IS a kinda light, happy day for me, and I'm not up for the heaviness of some of the other offerings. And also because I actually saw Niki Lauda and James Hunt race against each other, and it was fascinating, even from the stands. If you've never been behind the wheel of a racing car (I have been lucky enough to have done so), it's a more macho sport than almost anything else you can imagine. The movie is called Rush, and it's about the last era of F1 racing I followed, having grown up on earlier eras that featured even more flamboyent drivers like Stirling Moss and Graham Hill. But don't get your hopes up. This is *not* a great movie, and not even a great racing movie, even if you're a guy. There have been better. But it was perfect for this afternoon, and I don't regret having watched it, or skimmed through it, which is more accurate. If you love cars, and remember the great open-wheel racing cars of the 70s, you might like it, too. Those who have never seen the wrong side of 150 mph on their speedometers...or even wanted to...might want to skip it. /*
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC
Judy, asking you which Howatch character is your favorite is only a possible beginning point to a discussion of her novels. How would you begin discussing them? I think I read somewhere recently that she's discontinued writing. I found her last novel, The Heartbreaker, more tamasic than her earlier novels and I was dismayed to see that trend, which I think started with The High Flyer and maybe even a little with The Wonder Worker. On Monday, December 30, 2013 9:44 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Judy, thanks for info about Howatch yahoo group. On Monday, December 30, 2013 9:04 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Why on earth would you be thrilled? The novels are quite well known. I asked you, 'Favorite character'? You mean like kids have a favorite character in the Harry Potter novels? because I couldn't believe I had understood you correctly. I have never heard an adult say they have a favorite character in a series of adult novels, much less a series of serious novels about the theological and moral struggles of Church of England clerics. I mean, if that's your thing, fine. It sure ain't mine. Have you ever written to Howatch telling her all about your favorite character? I bet she'd be amused, er, delighted. Did you know Yahoo has a Susan Howatch group? Isn't that thrilling!? http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/howatch/info Maybe you could join that group and see if any of the members have a favorite Howatch character. Richard, I can empathize. I was thrilled to discover that Judy has also read the novels of Susan Howatch, a favorite author of mine. I asked her who her favorite Howatch character is. She responded with a putdown containing references to teens and Harry Potter! I still think she needs a pitta pacifying diet. On Saturday, December 28, 2013 7:52 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 12/28/2013 6:44 PM, authfriend@... wrote: I learned long ago that interesting is in the eye of the beholder. Apparently you don't find anything interesting that is posted here, except Barry pushing some buttons; the post count; and posting some macros. I thought fer sure you'd make a reply to my comments on Wagner. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Scientific Breakthroughs of 2013
One of them is that the Milky Way is teeming with earth-like planets. But is it possible to determine if there is life there? And in particular are there humans living in those planets? http://theweek.com/article/index/254523/the-biggest-scientific-breakthroughs-of-2013 http://theweek.com/article/index/254523/the-biggest-scientific-breakthroughs-of-2013
[FairfieldLife] What I watched
Yesterday I watched a political thriller, State of Play. I chose it from the library because of the extraordinary cast: Russel Crowe, Ben Affleck, Helen Mirran, Robin Wright and Jeff Daniels. In Rolling Stones magazine, Peter Travers called it a gripping thriller and Ebert called it a smart, ingenious thriller.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I watched
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Yesterday I watched a political thriller, State of Play. I chose it from the library because of the extraordinary cast: Russel Crowe, Ben Affleck, Helen Mirran, Robin Wright and Jeff Daniels. In Rolling Stones magazine, Peter Travers called it a gripping thriller and Ebert called it a smart, ingenious thriller. For the record, it is a remake of a better 2003 UK thriller of the same title.
[FairfieldLife] Thoughts Are Powerful Things
an excerpt from Sir Isaac Tigrett's talk given in Singapore 2007. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2013/12/30/our-thoughts-are-powerful-excerpted-from-isaac-tigretts-singapore-talk-2007/ http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2013/12/30/our-thoughts-are-powerful-excerpted-from-isaac-tigretts-singapore-talk-2007/
[FairfieldLife] RE: What I watched
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Yesterday I watched a political thriller, State of Play. I chose it from the
library because of the extraordinary cast: Russel Crowe, Ben Affleck, Helen
Mirran, Robin Wright and Jeff Daniels. In Rolling Stones magazine, Peter
Travers called it a gripping thriller and Ebert called it a smart, ingenious
thriller.
It sounds like a cast worth watching. What did you think of it?
[FairfieldLife] RE: music royalties
Sometimes plagiarism can benefit both parties. The Doors had to pay royalties to The Kinks after pinching their riff. The Kinks’ Ray Davies: “The funniest thing was when my publisher came to me on tour and said The Doors had used the riff for ‘All Day And All Of The Night’ for ‘Hello, I Love You.’ I said rather than sue them, can we just get them to own up? My publisher said, ‘They have, that’s why we should sue them!’ (laughs) Jim Morrison admitted it, which to me was the most important thing. The most important thing, actually, is to take (the idea) somewhere else.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4DV-5d6a5g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4DV-5d6a5g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzM71scYw0M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzM71scYw0M
Re: [FairfieldLife] What I watched
Ann, I can't quite put my finger on what was lacking in this movie. Like I said, the cast was great. I think the story was both convoluted but predictable. The dialogue was just ok. And so many of the scenes were shot with not much lighting. I'm glad I saw it. I would recommend it for its acting. It's like it had great potential but didn't quite live up to it. On Monday, December 30, 2013 12:29 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Yesterday I watched a political thriller, State of Play. I chose it from the library because of the extraordinary cast: Russel Crowe, Ben Affleck, Helen Mirran, Robin Wright and Jeff Daniels. In Rolling Stones magazine, Peter Travers called it a gripping thriller and Ebert called it a smart, ingenious thriller.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What I watched
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, sharelong60@... wrote:
Ann, I can't quite put my finger on what was lacking in this movie. Like I
said, the cast was great. I think the story was both convoluted but
predictable. The dialogue was just ok. And so many of the scenes were shot with
not much lighting. I'm glad I saw it. I would recommend it for its acting. It's
like it had great potential but didn't quite live up to it.
I'll check it out and maybe take a look at the British version.
On Monday, December 30, 2013 12:29 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
Yesterday I watched a political thriller, State of Play. I chose it from the
library because of the extraordinary cast: Russel Crowe, Ben Affleck, Helen
Mirran, Robin Wright and Jeff Daniels. In Rolling Stones magazine, Peter
Travers called it a gripping thriller and Ebert called it a smart, ingenious
thriller.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I watched
Oh, the UK version is a series of 6 episodes, not a movie.
[FairfieldLife] Feminists disrespect Catholics
Strident isn't an adequate adjective to describe these feminists. They come eerily close to having the same intolerant mindset as Islamists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUb9Yb2ucZI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUb9Yb2ucZI Merry Christmas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC7RNM1ppHY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC7RNM1ppHY
Re: [FairfieldLife] Feminists disrespect Catholics
Aw shucks, all they needed was a good ol' fashion spanking. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 11:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Feminists disrespect Catholics Strident isn't an adequate adjective to describe these feminists. They come eerily close to having the same intolerant mindset as Islamists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUb9Yb2ucZI Merry Christmas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC7RNM1ppHY
[FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Dec-13 00:15:02 UTC
Hi Bob, Those are high accolades you afford to Judy. And perhaps viewed from a particular angle I suppose they might all apply. But from another angle, or a maybe a wider view, those positive traits might be offset by other, less attractive attributes. As for Barry and Share, I enjoy what they bring to the site. And as far the onset of Richards volume, perhaps, I can't take much of it in right now, but can't say I mind it much. Right now we're off to Woody Creek Tavern, Hunter Thompson's old watering hole for a burger. Happy New Year to you, she who must be listened to, and the daughter.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Feminists disrespect Catholics
The one video of the bare breasted lady was sort of funny, like some comedy
routine gone sideways. Then that older man gets out of his pew and goes and
slaps her! How many old guys and priests does it take to get a 120 pound female
out of a church? They just didn't seem to know what to do with her.
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, s3raphita@... wrote:
Strident isn't an adequate adjective to describe these feminists. They come
eerily close to having the same intolerant mindset as Islamists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUb9Yb2ucZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUb9Yb2ucZI
Merry Christmas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC7RNM1ppHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC7RNM1ppHY
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: music royalties
Problems with the content industry: if the company is publicly held and they don't sue the stockholders complain. And if they complain enough the board members and management teams can lose their jobs. Publicly held companies and CEOs who won't stand up to the stockholders and tell them they have better things to do than worry about short term profits are a big part of our present day brouhaha. As far as music goes there is nothing new under the sun. Right here I have a copy of A Dictionary of Musical Themes which is a book with over 10,000 themes in it. They are organized by the note patterns used (we pros would prefer intervals so we didn't need to look at every key). And there are actually pretentious people who believe you somehow stole their song even though they never published it and it was never heard anywhere but in their garage. As more and more musicians have access to self publishing the value of original music will go down. That's part of the result of the democratization of the arts. Same with movies. Same with software too: $1 apps. On 12/30/2013 11:22 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Sometimes plagiarism can benefit both parties. The Doors had to pay royalties to The Kinks after pinching their riff. The Kinks’ Ray Davies: “The funniest thing was when my publisher came to me on tour and said The Doors had used the riff for ‘All Day And All Of The Night’ for ‘Hello, I Love You.’ I said rather than sue them, can we just get them to own up? My publisher said, ‘They have, that’s why we should sue them!’ (laughs) Jim Morrison admitted it, which to me was the most important thing. The most important thing, actually, is to take (the idea) somewhere else.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4DV-5d6a5g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzM71scYw0M
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I watched
The UK version is available on Hulu for free or on your big screen if you have Hulu+. Might have commercials though. :/ On 12/30/2013 11:36 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, the UK version is a series of 6 episodes, not a movie.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Feminists disrespect Catholics
Seraph, I agree that strident isn't quite the right word, but I wouldn't compare them to Muslim extremists either. Unless they're hurting and or killing people with their bare boobs! On Monday, December 30, 2013 1:50 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Strident isn't an adequate adjective to describe these feminists. They come eerily close to having the same intolerant mindset as Islamists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUb9Yb2ucZI Merry Christmas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC7RNM1ppHY
[FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Darshan
RJW Das, What was the time frame where this occurred with Jay Latham and the
gurus? 1990's, or during the 00's?
What a fabulous picture of words in this post. Like a photo from the FFL
family album. Like one of those family pictures in an album where names are
written in with arrows pointing. Thanks to Jay for labeling the people, this is
very helpful in bringing them to light. It's a very special picture of a time
and people.
Jai Gurus Devs,
-Buck in the Dome
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:
Galaxy of Fire: Journey to an ancient spiritual world.
Why is he here? How did he get in? The men were all clean shaven and had
their best suits on. Worst of all, there couldn't have been more than fifteen
Westerners, all total; the very top of Maharishi's Western organization, all
there by personal invitation from Maharishi himself, and all sitting in the
front row in full view of the main entrance.
So much for blending in. Behind the Westerners sat hundreds of exuberant
brahmin boys whom Maharishi was instructing in the Vedas. The few ladies I saw
were the top administrators of Maharishi's Thousand Headed Mother Divine
Course. I sat down directly in front of Maharishi who was sitting about
fifteen feet away on his dais. To his left, and above him on his own dais was
the present Shankaracharya of Jyothirmath, the spiritual pope of North India,
Sri Swami Vishnudevananda.
To his left, sitting on an even higher dais, was Guru Dev's successor
(appointed by Guru Dev himself, in his will), Shri Swami Shantanand Saraswati
Maharaj, retired Shankaracharya of Jyothirmath. These two sat under the gold
and red umbrella of the Shankaracharya, on the throne-like chairs of their
position. Surrounding them were about fifty of the most illustrious looking
orange-clad swamis I'd ever seen. This was the top of India's spiritual
tradition in the flesh. The stage area was surrounded by hundreds of lights
(candles, oil and ghee lamps) which are traditionally ]it for Diwali. The scene
was a blaze of spiritual light.
As I was sitting down Marc looked up at me with an inquisitive, raised eyebrow
and silently conveyed, What in the hell are you doing here ... what's with the
beard and the dhoti, are you completely out of your mind? The other Westerners
were also checking me out, having, of course, immediately recognized me. I
didn't even want to know their thoughts. All I could think was God, when you
fulfill a desire you really go all out. Since this is probably the last time
I'll see Maharishi for not being properly invited, I must thank you for the
fabulous send-off.
I drank in the whole scene. I'd stepped into the ageless, fiery world of the
Swami Order of Lord Shankara. A Sanskrit puja was underway in which Maharishi
was the deity. A couple of old pujaris were chanting, with one making offerings
to Maharishi splashing Ganges water on him, adorning him with green leaves,
offering incense, light from ghee lamps, etc. It reminded me of a silent film
I'd seen of Maharishi's master, Guru Dev, in which he was worshiped as
Shankaracharya in similar fashion.
This was a great honor for Maharishi, and demonstrated in the most symbolic
way possible that he was held in highest esteem by the present Shankaracharya
Order; with both the reigning and retired Shankaracharyas of Jyothirmath in
attendance. They obviously regarded Maharishi as the most enlightened disciple
of their own guru, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati (Guru Dev). I had heard that
Swami Vishnudevananda was supporting Maharishi and his movement in recruiting
Indians for the mass group practice of the TM-Sidhi program.
Maharishi always generates a feeling of eternality and transcendent silence
around him that is the most profound I've ever felt, but I had experienced this
most often in the context of large gatherings of Westerners in Europe. In the
midst of his own people, including the most illustrious of the Swami Order
itself, the feeling was deeper, more natural, because the land and its
spiritual history supported it. This was the Whole Thing, the Real Thing as
Guru Dev used to say.
If this were to be my last sight of the master, I had picked the right night.
I felt God smiling on. For the entire evening, Maharishi remained in samadhi,
eyes closed. That doesn't mean he was completely lost to the world, though,
because at one point I felt as if he were scanning me checking me out with
his inner vision. He's far too powerful to not have his attention felt by his
teachers. I felt him look right through me, my organs, subtle body, mind,
everything. While this was going on, I tried to send him the telepathic
message: Lord Shiva got me in here as a boon.
If Maharishi was upset about my being here, it was his own fault-he was the
one who taught me, in person, the highly effective techniques for locating
transcendental consciousness and fulfilling
[FairfieldLife] RE: Feminists disrespect Catholics
Re I agree that strident isn't quite the right word, but I wouldn't compare them to Muslim extremists.: I think what turns someone into a fanatic is when their sense of identity becomes centred on their beliefs. Once that happens they experience any challenge to their beliefs as a personal assault and go into irrational retaliatory mode. Avoid all isms and ologies, say I. The Zen writer R H Blyth was once asked by a friend who was considering joining the Catholic Church if he approved. Blyth replied: Never join anything you're going to have to defend. Wise words.
[FairfieldLife] Amazing T-Rex Illusion!
Have you seen this optical effect trending this week? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4QcyW-qTUg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4QcyW-qTUg
[FairfieldLife] RE: music royalties
Happy Birthday is the one everyone gets trapped by, assuming it's so ancient anyone can use it. Warner/Chappell Music insists that one cannot sing the Happy Birthday to You lyrics for profit without paying royalties: it's worth about $2 million a year.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: music royalties
You wonder how they figure that accounting. I also think that the movie studios accounting for piracy is bogus and they are given inflated losses by the DRM companies anxious to sell them their products. Most CEOs are tech illiterates anyway. On 12/30/2013 03:06 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Happy Birthday is the one everyone gets trapped by, assuming it's so ancient anyone can use it. Warner/Chappell Music insists that one cannot sing the Happy Birthday to You lyrics for profit without paying royalties: it's worth about $2 million a year.
[FairfieldLife] quot;Echo Tourismquot;
My latest (3:08). Although there are no lyrics, I consider this my most autobiographical piece, to date. Enjoy it, and it's *free*, so *fuck* the music dealers, and Happy Holidays! Echo Tourism (3:08) https://app.box.com/s/eb26vhhwgj50jq2dge9f https://app.box.com/s/eb26vhhwgj50jq2dge9f copyright temple dog 2013
[FairfieldLife] RE: music royalties
I am assuming the copyright has run out on the medieval nursery rhymes - Ring Around The Rosey, etc.? lol
[FairfieldLife] RE: Amazing T-Rex Illusion!
Wow! Very cool - really enjoyed the reveal - I was skeptical until the end.
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[FairfieldLife] The Origin of MIU / MUM
The study of intelligence integrated with the study of every discipline enriches and completes the range of every discipline, structures the home of all knowledge in the awareness of the student, and thus offers the solution to the pressing problems of modern education. Pages 26-7, founding Catalog of Maharishi International University, 1974
[FairfieldLife] World Boogie-Woogie Championship, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr-77vZ4_SUamp;feature=youtu.be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr-77vZ4_SUamp;feature=youtu.be Exhilarating. I can do without all the acrobatics. I just love to watch the legs and feet, and the centrifugal interaction (I made that phrase up; don't know how else to describe it) between the two dancers.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Scientific Breakthroughs of 2013
I recently read an article that discussed the impending search for the spectral signatures of organic life. That search is going on now and is expected to yield positive evidence soon enough. All such estimates are based on the probabilities revealed by a revised formula. However, the search for intelligent life (don't be so homo-centric by calling it human) may take much longer since it assumes that they will be transmitting electromagnetic signals. http://io9.com/what-a-brand-new-equation-reveals-about-our-odds-of-fin-531575395 http://io9.com/what-a-brand-new-equation-reveals-about-our-odds-of-fin-531575395
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
Wait- on! Wait- on! Mike wasn't insinuating anything about Jesus being
indifferent towards any sin. Jesus came not to judge but to serve( Isaiah 53)
as the *suffering servant*, showing mankind how to live life. Judge not , lest
ye be judged , Do unto others... etc. Jesus said He has the power to forgive
sin, doesn't mean He's in favor of it.
...
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:
On 12/29/2013 2:40 PM, awoelflebater@... wrote:
I don't think a couple of spiritual teachers talking about indifference
relates to anything Mike was posting about.Maybe not, but I think Mike's point
was that Jesus was indifferent to social mores concerning adultery. From what
I've read, hardly anybody back then was indifferent to having multiple wives -
they were all in favor of it. So, if Jesus was forgiving about adultery, I
wonder if he was also in favor of polygamy? And, I don't think any spiritual
teachers back then were in favor of polyandry, except maybe over in India. But,
I guess it all depends on what you mean by spiritual teachers. According to
Robin, Saul had a spiritual experience on the road to Damascus when he thought
he had seen the risen Christ for the first time; but everyone knows that Mary
Magdalene was the first to see the Jesus rise up into the sky. Obviously the
New Testament was written by men. Go figure.
I don't care what you think and I wasn't talkin' to you. Keep your pie hole
shut and give the little lady a chance to speak for herself. She's not quite a
corpse yet. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Feminists disrespect Catholics
I'm sure there's a drone that could take care of that! From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 2:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Feminists disrespect Catholics Re I agree that strident isn't quite the right word, but I wouldn't compare them to Muslim extremists.: I think what turns someone into a fanatic is when their sense of identity becomes centred on their beliefs. Once that happens they experience any challenge to their beliefs as a personal assault and go into irrational retaliatory mode. Avoid all isms and ologies, say I. The Zen writer R H Blyth was once asked by a friend who was considering joining the Catholic Church if he approved. Blyth replied: Never join anything you're going to have to defend. Wise words.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Origin of MIU / MUM
As Maharishi says, only a new seed will yield a new crop. Some new field of knowledge must be added to education to make it complete. MIU fulfills the need of education by providing a systematic study of intelligence and simultaneously promotes the growth of the knower along with the growth of knowledge. The study of intelligence integrated with the study of every discipline enriches and completes the range of every discipline, structures the home of all knowledge in the awareness of the student, and thus offers the solution to the pressing problems of modern education. Pages 26-7, founding Catalog of Maharishi International University, 1974
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
I don't believe Mary Magdalen was the first to see the Jesus rise up into the
sky, either.
Wait- on! Wait- on! Mike wasn't insinuating anything about Jesus being
indifferent towards any sin. Jesus came not to judge but to serve( Isaiah 53)
as the *suffering servant*, showing mankind how to live life. Judge not , lest
ye be judged , Do unto others... etc. Jesus said He has the power to forgive
sin, doesn't mean He's in favor of it.
From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote: On 12/29/2013
2:40 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
I don't think a couple of spiritual teachers talking about indifference
relates to anything Mike was posting about.Maybe not, but I think Mike's point
was that Jesus was indifferent to social mores concerning adultery. From what
I've read, hardly anybody back then was indifferent to having multiple wives -
they were all in favor of it. So, if Jesus was forgiving about adultery, I
wonder if he was also in favor of polygamy? And, I don't think any spiritual
teachers back then were in favor of polyandry, except maybe over in India. But,
I guess it all depends on what you mean by spiritual teachers. According to
Robin, Saul had a spiritual experience on the road to Damascus when he thought
he had seen the risen Christ for the first time; but everyone knows that Mary
Magdalene was the first to see the Jesus rise up into the sky. Obviously the
New Testament was written by men. Go figure.
I don't care what you think and I wasn't talkin' to you. Keep your pie hole
shut and give the little lady a chance to speak for herself. She's not quite a
corpse yet. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Darshan
Om, who was Dr. R.P. Varma in the scheme of things? Refresh my memory.
I got a little book written by Dr. R.P. Varma titled, Strange Facts about a
Great Saint, A short biography of Shri Guru Dev , his Divinity Swami Brahmanand
Saraswati Maharaj, Jagad Guru Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath, Badarikashram,
Himalayas published 1980 pp136
Who is this Varma relative to Guru Dev and then Maharishi? Contemporary of
Brahmananda Saraswati? In with these other place holders?
Is he still living and does he have a place in TM.org now?
Is he Bevan's, John's, Girish's or Tony's father?
Just wondering, to set any record straight.
-Buck
RJW Das, What was the time frame where this occurred with Jay Latham and the
gurus? 1990's, or during the 00's?
What a fabulous picture of words in this post. Like a photo from the FFL
family album. Like one of those family pictures in an album where names are
written in with arrows pointing. Thanks to Jay for labeling the people, this is
very helpful in bringing them to light. It's a very special picture of a time
and people.
Jai Gurus Devs,
-Buck
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:
Galaxy of Fire: Journey to an ancient spiritual world.
Why is he here? How did he get in? The men were all clean shaven and had
their best suits on. Worst of all, there couldn't have been more than fifteen
Westerners, all total; the very top of Maharishi's Western organization, all
there by personal invitation from Maharishi himself, and all sitting in the
front row in full view of the main entrance.
So much for blending in. Behind the Westerners sat hundreds of exuberant
brahmin boys whom Maharishi was instructing in the Vedas. The few ladies I saw
were the top administrators of Maharishi's Thousand Headed Mother Divine
Course. I sat down directly in front of Maharishi who was sitting about
fifteen feet away on his dais. To his left, and above him on his own dais was
the present Shankaracharya of Jyothirmath, the spiritual pope of North India,
Sri Swami Vishnudevananda.
To his left, sitting on an even higher dais, was Guru Dev's successor
(appointed by Guru Dev himself, in his will), Shri Swami Shantanand Saraswati
Maharaj, retired Shankaracharya of Jyothirmath. These two sat under the gold
and red umbrella of the Shankaracharya, on the throne-like chairs of their
position. Surrounding them were about fifty of the most illustrious looking
orange-clad swamis I'd ever seen. This was the top of India's spiritual
tradition in the flesh. The stage area was surrounded by hundreds of lights
(candles, oil and ghee lamps) which are traditionally ]it for Diwali. The scene
was a blaze of spiritual light.
As I was sitting down Marc looked up at me with an inquisitive, raised eyebrow
and silently conveyed, What in the hell are you doing here ... what's with the
beard and the dhoti, are you completely out of your mind? The other Westerners
were also checking me out, having, of course, immediately recognized me. I
didn't even want to know their thoughts. All I could think was God, when you
fulfill a desire you really go all out. Since this is probably the last time
I'll see Maharishi for not being properly invited, I must thank you for the
fabulous send-off.
I drank in the whole scene. I'd stepped into the ageless, fiery world of the
Swami Order of Lord Shankara. A Sanskrit puja was underway in which Maharishi
was the deity. A couple of old pujaris were chanting, with one making offerings
to Maharishi splashing Ganges water on him, adorning him with green leaves,
offering incense, light from ghee lamps, etc. It reminded me of a silent film
I'd seen of Maharishi's master, Guru Dev, in which he was worshiped as
Shankaracharya in similar fashion.
This was a great honor for Maharishi, and demonstrated in the most symbolic
way possible that he was held in highest esteem by the present Shankaracharya
Order; with both the reigning and retired Shankaracharyas of Jyothirmath in
attendance. They obviously regarded Maharishi as the most enlightened disciple
of their own guru, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati (Guru Dev). I had heard that
Swami Vishnudevananda was supporting Maharishi and his movement in recruiting
Indians for the mass group practice of the TM-Sidhi program.
Maharishi always generates a feeling of eternality and transcendent silence
around him that is the most profound I've ever felt, but I had experienced this
most often in the context of large gatherings of Westerners in Europe. In the
midst of his own people, including the most illustrious of the Swami Order
itself, the feeling was deeper, more natural, because the land and its
spiritual history supported it. This was the Whole Thing, the Real Thing as
Guru Dev used to say.
If this were to be my last sight of the master, I had picked the right night.
I felt God smiling on. For the entire evening, Maharishi
[FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Adwaita
That is an excellent recommendation. The Trinity is a theological formulation in Christianity ... not a philosophical idea. It is also defined differently between Latin based traditions (Catholic and Protestant) and Greek based traditions (Eastern Orthodox). Speculating about the Christian Trinity is easy but foolish since it is the source of the great schism between the Roman Catholics and Orthodox during the past millennium
[FairfieldLife] RE: Radical Transcendentalism, Maharishi Waging Peace World Wide
In the East China Sea, in very practical terms I should really quite like to see a well formed coalition made of the United Nations Peace-keepers immediately handling the logistics of a landing of teams of AFSC Quakers as experienced mediators of conflict and meditators from the Global Country of World Peace in field effect as a joint peace-making task-force. In coalition of peace-keeping make a landing now on some island rock between them countries all for a residence of coherence mediation meditation. It is high time to attack the incoherence there directly with a much more aggressive mediation of transcending meditation. -Buck Revolution now! It is high time we claim our revolutionary heritage back from the Movement's suits. As meditators we need to take our cause with peace directly to the barricades again; the need be here in this world today that we deploy now and lay siege with meditation even to the Great Walls of China in that troubled incoherent part of the world. It is time for great spiritual and scientific revolutionary action of mediation meditation everywhere. If they won't let us in to Red China to meditate a mediation with peace there then, occupy their Great Wall. Garrison their block houses with meditation. !Occupy Now! Revolution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH9zG28GQEg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH9zG28GQEg Police in China's restive Xinjiang region have shot dead eight people during a violent clash on Monday http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25546531 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25546531 The East China Sea is an ideal location to wage peace from now. It is time to occupy the whole region with peace. Surround the place with meditation. We need mediators, meditators, and peace-keepers there now. Quakers as mediators, mediators from the Global Country of World Peace, and the United Nations Peace-keepers for logistics. What are the TM Rajas doing about peace there? -Buck Japan's Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe's visit to the Yasukuni shrine has angered many in China and South Korea http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25524559 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25524559 From quite early on Maharishi Mahesh Yogi employed the radical direct action of groups meditating deployed in field effect as like the Meissner Effect of consciousness mediation of meditation as then even in 1962 meditating a peaceful resolution to the Cuban Missile crisis of 1962. Maharishi called for group meditations at that time to avert the critical danger of incoherence the world was suffering in at that moment in time. In a move of scientific radical peace-activism Maharishi lead group meditations against the turmoil in the world then. To his transcendental mediation we look back at it now as The Cuban missile crisis of 1962. Radicalism 1962, Radical Peace and The 1962 Cuban missile crisis: As a 20th Century revolutionary in radical peaceful affect, a prominent millenarian of his age, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was boundlessly persistent, constant and consistent in his coming out of India going around the world in peace activism of direct-action through introducing and inciting the mediation for peaceful resolution of world conflict by the effect of group meditation. Revolution: Maharishi's formula to change the world Waging Radical Peace, Maharishi 1983. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6lCNQ9DTOY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6lCNQ9DTOY Radical Transcendentalism, It is quite time to own being peace-revolutionaries; it is quite time to own being radicals of direct-action in mediation of meditation as Maharishi's TM revolutionary peace-activists. -Buck in the Dome Deploying Radical Peace, Maharishi 1967: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3qOxNjNms0list=PL6468F67BE38B5F92 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3qOxNjNms0list=PL6468F67BE38B5F92 Look this ain't just some theory or theology of peace. This is practical science that should be public policy everywhere today. This is peace-activism as direct-action; disciplined practicum as mediation and practical in the world. Deeply spiritual and scientific at the same time. Only ignorant science-haters can deny the facts of peace-making now. It is time to deploy peace-making mediation meditation all around the world. -Buck The updated mediation meditation of Love is here now. Love is downloading even as you read this if you are open to reading and then transmitting Love beyond. There has been long ago that old humankind testament in covenant of causality with the Unified Field and then updated with the Jesus testament of love and also the vector of Compassion the Buddha has taught. It is quite time to download, update and install the New Love now, the Love vector of the Unified Field as a mediation of meditation in of the age of science now. All we are saying is give
[FairfieldLife] Kundalini Yoga vs Christianity
Former Kundalini Yoga teacher affiliated with Yogi Bhajan converts to Christianity in the 70's and offers a fairly good (as such essays go from Fundamentalists) counterargument to Eastern Teachings. . http://deeperrevelationbooks.org/download/ENCOUNTERINGGOD.pdf http://deeperrevelationbooks.org/download/ENCOUNTERINGGOD.pdf . Or, you can go to his (Mike Shreve), at http://www.shreveministries.org and click onto the download. .. He covers topics such as Brahman the impersonal vs Jesus the Personal, sin vs karma, etc.; and concludes that all Eastern teachings (including Buddhism) have irreconciliable differences with Christianity and that his choice is the latter. I would add that his decision appears to be more of a choice than what he proposes are the truthiness arguments contained in the essay - i.e. what one wants to believe; since by no means has he provided any type of proofs for his assertions. Otoh, his experiences with Kundalini Yoga such as astral projection provided a basis for arguments not proffered by the usual the Bible says so Fundies. . I believe there are numerous flaws in his arguments but will let you uncover them for yourself (if any) after reading his essary. (highly recommended reading!).
[FairfieldLife] Holding back
Steve, Thank you for your response and the kind regards to *she who must be listened to*, and the daughter. I also enjoy Barry's current contributions; I used to find his posts a bit of a yawn, but then Share showed up and began letting him know at every opportunity what a exceptional talent she considers him to be; witnessing Barry finally find the audience he so richly deserves could be the point I started believing in a personal deity again. You're correct I think Judy is an exceptional contributor on FFL; call me old fashioned, but I have a soft spot for people I can learn from; the fact she finds hypocrisy repugnant doesn't hurt either. A good example of why I love your contributions to the forum was your choice of the word onset to describe Richard's posts; it would take me a week to think of a word like that, I just looked it up in a not so thick dictionary which describes it as the beginning of something, esp. something unpleasant. So can you imagine my delight when I logged on to FFL and discovered that Richard had taken time from his busy posting schedule to respond line-by-line to my communication with you; I'm wondering what his weekly output might hit if I communicated directly with him - would 400-500 be too much for the Sherpa of There’s no there, there. Although this communication is to you, the post professor has my permission to treat it like he and I were sitting in the same room - having a bit of a chinwag; but before I proceed, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Richard needs get a handle on the fact that Ann and the good Dr. D. have his best interests at heart - the last thing they would want is for any of us to enable Richard's growing dependence on responding line-by-line to other peoples communications. Its a long road down from the mountain top of 250 posts a week (66% more than 150 - from the bottom up, and 40% more than 150 - from the top down; considered an excellent margin in a number of industries), but as with all journeys it must start with the first step; so in the spirit of our resident Sherpa's trek back down from the mountain top - a time when many climbers get in trouble - I'm going to listen to Ann's sage advice, and preserve bandwidth by limiting my response to his comments, and our exchange, to this single follow up post to you. As a side bar, I'm a little concerned for Richards safety as no doubt his line-by-line rebuttal on my communication to you brought on a nasty domestic with Barry - the Paris to Paris back channel must have been red hot yesterday; frankly, I thought (I'm sure Barry would agree) Share showed the kind of restraint that should secure her the STFU award from Barry for 2013 (tomorrow is the last day for entries). There were many interesting points in Richard's line-by-line response to my communication to you, but the ones that really jumped out at me, and I don't think I'm alone in this, were his I'm not gay declarations. As you know, he has continued to make this declaration for a few weeks now although I can't remember anyone actually saying he is gay. Keeping in mind that this is a tolerant, if not urbane, meeting place for like-minded students of the history of consciousness, and no one here would ever dream of looking like a complete moron by disparaging individuals based on their sexual orientation; I think I speak for more than a few FFL correspondents when I ask why Richard keeps denying he's not gay when no one said he is? For this reason, let's review what we know and what we know we don't know about these denials; in examining the denials we may unlock the secret to the onset, and his current challenges with holding back with his FFL contributions, and possibly his tantric practice - to determine whether this lack of control is a precursor to something more ominous. When we consider the onset of the volume of Richard posting the last few months, and more recently in his line-by-line rebuttal of my communication to you, is it possible that in this inability to *hold back* we are witnessing some type of tantric explosion caused by some denial of what he truly wants out of life; in my recent conversation with a woman named Rita (who our Richard has already disowned) she said: he may or may not be a gay tantric, but considering the time he spends with his computer - I know something is going on, and, this crazy idea he has that the only asana worth performing is the corpse pose - what the hell is with that. I mentioned to Rita that the Wife and I practice yoga most nights, and, frankly, at my age I wish there was more time for the corpse pose. I guess I'll leave it there; I've got to run - Judy has invited me sailing again. Richard if you're reading this could you post a link to some of your poetry; I for one would love to read some. The other Judy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-rBZREQMw
[FairfieldLife] RE: Amazing T-Rex Illusion!
Now, isn't that just wonderful? It just shows you, your eyes and perception are not to be trusted because there are other realities and other ways in which life is structured that goes beyond our current understanding.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced@... wrote: Steve, Thank you for your response and the kind regards to *she who must be listened to*, and the daughter. I also enjoy Barry's current contributions; I used to find his posts a bit of a yawn, but then Share showed up and began letting him know at every opportunity what a exceptional talent she considers him to be; witnessing Barry finally find the audience he so richly deserves could be the point I started believing in a personal deity again. You're correct I think Judy is an exceptional contributor on FFL; call me old fashioned, but I have a soft spot for people I can learn from; the fact she finds hypocrisy repugnant doesn't hurt either. A good example of why I love your contributions to the forum was your choice of the word onset to describe Richard's posts; it would take me a week to think of a word like that, I just looked it up in a not so thick dictionary which describes it as the beginning of something, esp. something unpleasant. So can you imagine my delight when I logged on to FFL and discovered that Richard had taken time from his busy posting schedule to respond line-by-line to my communication with you; I'm wondering what his weekly output might hit if I communicated directly with him - would 400-500 be too much for the Sherpa of There’s no there, there. Although this communication is to you, the post professor has my permission to treat it like he and I were sitting in the same room - having a bit of a chinwag; but before I proceed, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Richard needs get a handle on the fact that Ann and the good Dr. D. have his best interests at heart - the last thing they would want is for any of us to enable Richard's growing dependence on responding line-by-line to other peoples communications. Its a long road down from the mountain top of 250 posts a week (66% more than 150 - from the bottom up, and 40% more than 150 - from the top down; considered an excellent margin in a number of industries), but as with all journeys it must start with the first step; so in the spirit of our resident Sherpa's trek back down from the mountain top - a time when many climbers get in trouble - I'm going to listen to Ann's sage advice, and preserve bandwidth by limiting my response to his comments, and our exchange, to this single follow up post to you. As a side bar, I'm a little concerned for Richards safety as no doubt his line-by-line rebuttal on my communication to you brought on a nasty domestic with Barry - the Paris to Paris back channel must have been red hot yesterday; frankly, I thought (I'm sure Barry would agree) Share showed the kind of restraint that should secure her the STFU award from Barry for 2013 (tomorrow is the last day for entries). There were many interesting points in Richard's line-by-line response to my communication to you, but the ones that really jumped out at me, and I don't think I'm alone in this, were his I'm not gay declarations. As you know, he has continued to make this declaration for a few weeks now although I can't remember anyone actually saying he is gay. Keeping in mind that this is a tolerant, if not urbane, meeting place for like-minded students of the history of consciousness, and no one here would ever dream of looking like a complete moron by disparaging individuals based on their sexual orientation; I think I speak for more than a few FFL correspondents when I ask why Richard keeps denying he's not gay when no one said he is? For this reason, let's review what we know and what we know we don't know about these denials; in examining the denials we may unlock the secret to the onset, and his current challenges with holding back with his FFL contributions, and possibly his tantric practice - to determine whether this lack of control is a precursor to something more ominous. When we consider the onset of the volume of Richard posting the last few months, and more recently in his line-by-line rebuttal of my communication to you, is it possible that in this inability to *hold back* we are witnessing some type of tantric explosion caused by some denial of what he truly wants out of life; in my recent conversation with a woman named Rita (who our Richard has already disowned) she said: he may or may not be a gay tantric, but considering the time he spends with his computer - I know something is going on, and, this crazy idea he has that the only asana worth performing is the corpse pose - what the hell is with that. I mentioned to Rita that the Wife and I practice yoga most nights, and, frankly, at my age I wish there was more time for the corpse pose. I guess I'll leave it there; I've got to run - Judy has invited me sailing again. Richard if you're reading this could you post a link to some of your poetry; I for one would love to read some. The other Judy:
[FairfieldLife] RE: Radical Transcendentalism, Maharishi Waging Peace World Wide
New Bomber Can Nuke US Military Bases, Brags Chinese State Med http://www.infowars.com/new-bomber-can-nuke-us-military-bases-brags-chinese-state-media/
[FairfieldLife] RE: Scientific Breakthroughs of 2013
I like Drake's equation better than the revised one since the estimate of an alien civilization would range from one to a million--which is really not very specific. But that's probably good enough since we can't be there to verify it anyway. IMO, the scientists will have to invent an advanced telescope that can probe these exoplanets to the nearest tree top. For example, the light signature from these exoplanets may show the details and clarity by analyzing their effects on subatomic particles present here on earth.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Scientific Breakthroughs of 2013
Re However, the search for intelligent life . . . may take much longer since it assumes that they will be transmitting electromagnetic signals.: That's always been my complaint. If there is intelligent life elsewhere why haven't we picked up transmissions of their equivalent of TV's Keeping Up with the Kardashians?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
authfriend wrote:
I don't believe Mary Magdalen was the first
to see the Jesus rise up into the sky, either.
Maybe it's time to get all our ducks in a row: Mary Magdalene was the first
person to see the risen Christ.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:03 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
I don't believe Mary Magdalen was the first to see the Jesus rise up
into the sky, either.
Wait- on! Wait- on! Mike wasn't insinuating anything about Jesus being
indifferent towards any sin. Jesus came not to judge but to serve( Isaiah
53) as the *suffering servant*, showing mankind how to live life. Judge
not , lest ye be judged , Do unto others... etc. Jesus said He has the
power to forgive sin, doesn't mean He's in favor of it.
*From:* awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@...
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:38 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote:
On 12/29/2013 2:40 PM, awoelflebater@... wrote:
I don't think a couple of spiritual teachers talking about
indifference relates to anything Mike was posting about.
Maybe not, but I think Mike's point was that Jesus was indifferent to
social mores concerning adultery. From what I've read, hardly anybody back
then was indifferent to having multiple wives - they were all in favor of
it. So, if Jesus was forgiving about adultery, I wonder if he was also in
favor of polygamy? And, I don't think any spiritual teachers back then were
in favor of polyandry, except maybe over in India. But, I guess it all
depends on what you mean by spiritual teachers. According to Robin, Saul
had a spiritual experience on the road to Damascus when he thought he had
seen the risen Christ for the first time; but everyone knows that Mary
Magdalene was the first to see the Jesus rise up into the sky. Obviously
the New Testament was written by men. Go figure.
I don't care what you think and I wasn't talkin' to you. Keep your pie
hole shut and give the little lady a chance to speak for herself. She's not
quite a corpse yet. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Radical Transcendentalism, Maharishi Waging Peace World Wide
Total arseholes. I've asked this before: can't the US simply cancel its (huge) debt to China citing the aggressive propaganda coming from the top as evidence of hostile intent? That would crash the Chinese bubble overnight.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY's Adwaita
If you're trying to rebut the Christian idea of the Holy Trinity, it would be good to study up on it first so you don't find yourself setting up straw men to knock down. No, I have no intention of comparing apples to oranges - that discussion might better be left to Robin. But, I believe I have covered this is a previous message concerning negative dialectic and the significance of emptiness in the four cornered negation defined in Nagarjuna's 'The Middle Way' - a key text of the Madhyamaka-school: Neither from itself nor from another, Nor from both, Nor without a cause, Does anything whatever, anywhere arise. Work cited: 'Fundamental Verses on the Middle Way' The Mulamadhyamakakrika by Nagarjuna V. 1:1 On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:47 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: A word to the wise: If you're trying to rebut the Christian idea of the Holy Trinity, it would be good to study up on it first so you don't find yourself setting up straw men to knock down. First came One. It's a leap of metaphysical theorizing to imagine that there is more than One real. Let's be logical: If there were three or more reals instead of One, there would be three or more truths, three or more ultimate realities, and three or more Selfs. But, what do you suppose would cause a person to think there are three are more reals instead of only One?
Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY's Adwaita
Meaning, unless one's words have a huge amount of shakti, it's pointless to tell a person in duality that it's all one. Share, It' s like a Zen koan: Wind flag, mind moves, The same understanding. When the mouth opens All are wrong. - Mumon On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, my pastoral counselor and her husband really like Wayne Liquorman. I think Rick has interviewed him. I like Francis Lucille and advaita in general. I think the operative principle in all this is knowledge is structured in consciousness. Meaning, unless one's words have a huge amount of shakti, it's pointless to tell a person in duality that it's all one. That simply creates cognitive dissonance. OTOH, I have been experiencing that big T Truth can move mountains. Of stress that is! (-: On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:38 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: First came One. It's a leap of metaphysical theorizing to imagine that there is more than One real. Let's be logical: If there were three or more reals instead of One, there would be three or more truths, three or more ultimate realities, and three or more Selfs. But, what do you suppose would cause a person to think there are three are more reals instead of only One? If there were three or more reals, then a person would have three or more soul-monads, instead of just One Soul. If so, then how would you know your Self? Which one would it be - Self number one, Self number two or Self number three, or more Selfs than you could count. That would be confusing if you didn't know which Self you were. You might want to eat, but the other Self might get the food, then Self number one would go about as a hungry ghost. In fact, there is only One truth, the one you really are, your Self. All three other selfs are just an appearance only. Do we agree so far? In fact, the only reason anyone would think there are three or more reals would be if they were told it by someone or they read about it somewhere. People don't usually go about imagining that they are three people - it's not natural and not given in experience. Actually, to imagine that you are three people is abnormal, and this abnormal view is usually gained through intellectual theorizing. Most people don't naturally feel that they have three heads and six arms. So, just give up this idea that you are three persons, give up the idea of I and mine and just do your duty - by your Self. Real renunciation is the giving up of I and mine, not the mere abandoning of duties. - Dattatreya Upanishad Nagarjuna's Law of the Excluded Middle: In reality all phenomena are empty of 'own nature'. There is no 'essence' of things. Things and events and objects have no intrinsic reality apart from conditions. There is dependent origination but no causation - things do not arise from causes; things and events are not created or destroyed; there is no movement. Form is emptiness, emptiness is form. All truth statements are conventional. Change is impossible; things do not move and one thing does not become another thing. Suffering, actions, bodies, doers, and results are all unreal. Time is unreal because present and future are all relative. The Seven States of Consciousness are also unreal. There is neither suffering nor its causation nor a path to its cessation. The three gunas are unreal and there is neither the movement, nor the technique, nor the MMY. Birth, death, suffering and Nirvana itself is an illusion too. Antinomies, dialectics and the four-cornered negation: Sankara and his followers, like Nagarjuna and his followers, say that none of the four forms is applicable to the phenomenal world or any of its objects absolutely, because the phenomenal world is a world of relativity. Not this, That, and neither - Wallah Sutra 1.6. According to Gaudapadacharya, there is One only. There is no creation; no destruction; no coming to be, and no ceasing to be. Things do not change, neither do they move about or stay the same. Things and events are an illusion, not real, yet not unreal. The Transcendental Consciousness is the only Reality. Liberation is the way to avoid the results of actions and to be free. Adwaita In a nutshell: According to Liquorman, writing on Adwaita, there are three issues that must be understood in order to understand Adwaita: The realization that there are *not two*, the realization that things and events are an *illusion*, and the *dispelling of illusion* by process of experiential pure consciousness. The metaphor of a burning firebrand that is waved in a circle, which creates an illusion of a continuous circle of fire has been used to describe the non-dual realization, which when experienced in reality, becomes just a series of point-instants of perception. Works cited:: 'Consciousness Speaks' Conversations with Ramesh S. Balsekar by Ramesh S. Balsekar and Wayne
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Origin of MIU / MUM
Responsible individuals, organizations, and governments throughout the world continue to make great efforts to provide the best possible education for each new generation. But in spite of all sincerity and dedicated effort, two facts signal a basic lack of success universally experienced: first, suffering continues in society, and second, dissatisfaction among youth is a common phenomenon almost everywhere. Education everywhere deals with similar classes of knowledge -science, arts, humanities. As long as the same knowledge is taught, the same results must be expected. Innovation in teaching techniques alone will not resolve the universal problems of education. As Maharishi says, only a new seed will yield a new crop. Some new field of knowledge must be added to education to make it complete. MIU fulfills the need of education by providing a systematic study of intelligence and simultaneously promotes the growth of the knower along with the growth of knowledge. The study of intelligence integrated with the study of every discipline enriches and completes the range of every discipline, structures the home of all knowledge in the awareness of the student, and thus offers the solution to the pressing problems of modern education. Pages 26-7, founding Catalog of Maharishi International University, 1974
[FairfieldLife] RE: Feminists disrespect Catholics
Re The video of the bare-breasted lady was sort of funny, like some comedy routine gone sideways.: I know what you mean. Another difference is that the woman - typical of the narcissistic, exhibitionist types that gravitate towards fringe protest groups - is ALONE. That gives her a certain respect. She's taking on the establishment without (visible) support. ;-) The other video is the scary one as it shows typical mob mentality. Mobs = a consciousness-lowering environment. Something creepy - maybe satanic - about their behaviour.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Darshan
AEGTC, Seeligsburg, Switzerland 1976: Maharishi, these experiences I've had over the past six months have been glimpses of enlightenment for me. I had a tremendous awakening experience before I started TM, but due to the circumstances, I feel a little shy about telling it in the group. I then sent him a thought message that I would relate my experience and not the circumstances. Maharishi paused for a moment to think about what I'd just said. It'll be all right to tell it, he said finally, in a thoughtful sort of way. Maharishi, you've said that for every state of consciousness there is a separate, corresponding state of reality. Waking state has its reality, dream state has its reality, and deep sleep is another reality. Yes. You've taught us that transcendental consciousness is a fourth state of consciousness?a fourth reality that is the underlying reality of all life. Yes. And you've taught that cosmic consciousness is a higher state of reality, because one never loses consciousness of the transcendent even during waking, dreaming and sleeping. Yes. You've also said that God consciousness and unity consciousness are even deeper states of reality; so we have all these states of consciousness and all these states of corresponding realities. Maharishi said yes this time in a somewhat impatient way, as if to convey, Get to the point, where are you going with this? I'd been feeling an almighty power rise up inside of me as I asked Maharishi each one of these questions, because I was consciously setting him up? To refute all that he had just said. I knew he knew the truth, but I wanted him to come out with it in a way he had never done before. It was time for us to stop playing around like little children at his feet, and elicit from him the real truth. A great rage suddenly ripped through my chest, burning the lie in my heart. I wanted Maharishi to kill it right then and there, for all time. Maharishi, in the experience of wholeness I had before I started TM, what you've just said that basically reality is different in different states of consciousness, is a total lie! What I experienced one night five years ago, is that there is only one reality, has always been one reality, and will forever be one reality! EVERYTHING ELSE IS A COMPLETE AND TOTAL LIE! YES! YES! YES! Maharishi loudly proclaimed. With each YES, his fist came down on the table, Bang, Bang, Bang! Never had I seen him respond so powerfully. It was as if the Hammer of God was slamming that table. He then exclaimed loudly, This is real wholeness! I don't want to hear anything but experiences of real wholeness! Continue with your experience. What I discovered in my experience, Maharishi, was that the personality I know as Jay Latharn is a complete, fictitious lie. There is only one Being, God. Everything else, even the 'reality' of God consciousness, is an illusion. It's just like Shankara said. Now this is the real experience of wholeness! Maharishi proclaimed excitedly. What happened is that I had an experience in which I went through all of the states of consciousness. When I hit cosmic consciousness I closed my eyes to meditate and witnessed creation in the flow of soma out of the bindu point between my eyes. Everything shot out of that point, in stereo?whatever came out on the left came out on the right. I saw the mechanics of creation. It was the most amazing sight I ever saw. After that I started having celestial perception with my eyes open. I then briefly explained the major points of my experience the jewels I'd seen in the ceiling and how things were constructed of light rays created from God's mind?how I walked and moved through a cosmic plasma that erased the force of gravity, etc. Maharishi was paying close attention to what I was saying, and having his attention on me like this was like having God Almighty bum the lie right out of my heart. The longer I held his attention, the more enlightened I got. Yes, lie had closely followed rny progress for the past six months and given me a lot of attention, but this moment was the greatest I'd ever had with him. I continued relating to Maharishi the progressive stages of my awakening; how I had felt the presence of God in everything and how everything I perceived became the artwork of the Creator (Maharishi's descriptive words for sensory experiences in the state of God consciousness). I told him of my insights into God revealing to man the blueprints for a more comfortable life on earth throughout the centuries, and how I went from God consciousness into Unity Consciousness and perceived God looking back at me in every object that came within my primary line of vision. Everything I looked at seemed to disappear. It was as if every object I looked at became a mirror with the Ancient Knower staring into the depths of my soul. Objects were transformed into the Mind of God. It was as if holes of Reality were being cut into the celestial heavenly world I had ascended to in God
[FairfieldLife] Sixties Brit pop ladies
Fifteen-year-old Lulu. A little girl with a big, big voice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqYiUiWXM5M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqYiUiWXM5M
[FairfieldLife] RE: Sixties Brit pop ladies
Judith Durham of The Seekers (Australian band) was pitch perfect with angelic, soaring voice. They don't make music like this any more. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nze8B39OB0k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nze8B39OB0k
[FairfieldLife] MMY's Rapture
As it is written: Ecce enim regnum Dei *intra* vos est (the Kingdom of Heaven lies within you). The Incarnation is the human form of God's celestial Word, the first thought, the primeval expression of divine intelligence by which our Male Father created the universe with his spiritual seed. In order to ensure fecundity and to promote growth, our Father produced a Female equal out of himself, and together they coupled, producing an abundant offspring in the form of Human consciousness which evolved within the last 10,000 years into Homo sapiens sapiens. In the beginning, according to the Bible, God had a first thought which in turn produced the universe. That first thought was very subtle, yet contained within itself the power to create other thoughts in rapid succession over a period of just days. God thought this was very good and so he created many words and phrases to describe the Ultimate Reality. The Father is all powerful yet, even He meditated on the seventh day! Go figure. The deep [primordial sea] was not, when I was born, there were no springs to gush with water. Before the hills, I came to birth; before he made the earth, the countryside, or the first grains of the world's dust. When he fixed the heavens firm, I was there, when he drew a ring on the surface of the deep... As the Word incarnate the Christos is the embodiment of Wisdom. We should meditate on that Word, and reflect on its meaning. No Virgin Birth; no Baptism; no Temptation; no Parables; no casting out of Demons or Devils; no Second Coming; no Doomsday; no ritual Communion; no new Law or Covenant: just love one another. It's just you and the Paraclete, the invisible surrogate, the Holy Spirit, that rises within you as you sit with eyes closed. All you have to do is call to mind all that is I Am as taught by your own Advocate, and remember a previously experienced state of Being. It's that simple. Practiced in this way, you should aspire to live a hundred years. Enlightenment, that is, total knowledge and experience of the Transcendent, is the realization of the way things really are: the Purusha, which is the Absolute, completely separate from activity - prakriti, which is the self-creation, the gunas always in action; and the avatar, the bridge which is the Way. In all, an unfolding of truth consciousness within each individual. The mystery is how, in realty, the many is One and the same. In fact, the I Am which is the Being, is the Way, the Truth, and the Light. The Rapture is here now! You experience it every time you close your eyes and look within. We may disagree on the appearance of the avatar and the timing, but we Galatians are apparently ALL agreed that the last word is I Am a Siddha that is, IT IS ACCOMPLISHED! The real story is that everyone meditates to a certain extent, and everyone is transcending anyway; Mary was a full participant in the ministry of Jesus; Samaritans are not all bad; God is the Heavenly Father, with his equal companion Mother Nature, and their offspring are the Son of Man in the form of the indwelling Logos. It's a family affair; as above, so below. It is a joy for me today to reflect on the need that has been felt throughout the ages by the wise throughout the ages, that life is to be lived in its full creative potential, that life is recommended to be the representation of The Will of God. The Will of God is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient reality. - MMY May God, his Goddess, and his Son/Daughter bless you all! Works Cited: 'The Old Testament' The Book of Proverbs 8:24-27 (NJB) 'The New Testament' Appendix to the Old by John the Beloved The Gospel According to John 19.30 (NJB)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
She saw him risen from the grave, but not risen into the sky. The Ascension
didn't take place for another 40 days, and only the remaining disciples
witnessed it.
authfriend wrote:
I don't believe Mary Magdalen was the first
to see the Jesus rise up into the sky, either.
Maybe it's time to get all our ducks in a row: Mary Magdalene was the first
person to see the risen Christ.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:03 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
I don't believe Mary Magdalen was the first to see the Jesus rise up into
the sky, either.
Wait- on! Wait- on! Mike wasn't insinuating anything about Jesus being
indifferent towards any sin. Jesus came not to judge but to serve( Isaiah 53)
as the *suffering servant*, showing mankind how to live life. Judge not , lest
ye be judged , Do unto others... etc. Jesus said He has the power to forgive
sin, doesn't mean He's in favor of it.
From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
---In FairfieldLife@{{emailDomain}}, punditster@... wrote: On 12/29/2013
2:40 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
I don't think a couple of spiritual teachers talking about indifference
relates to anything Mike was posting about. Maybe not, but I think Mike's point
was that Jesus was indifferent to social mores concerning adultery. From what
I've read, hardly anybody back then was indifferent to having multiple wives -
they were all in favor of it. So, if Jesus was forgiving about adultery, I
wonder if he was also in favor of polygamy? And, I don't think any spiritual
teachers back then were in favor of polyandry, except maybe over in India. But,
I guess it all depends on what you mean by spiritual teachers. According to
Robin, Saul had a spiritual experience on the road to Damascus when he thought
he had seen the risen Christ for the first time; but everyone knows that Mary
Magdalene was the first to see the Jesus rise up into the sky. Obviously the
New Testament was written by men. Go figure.
I don't care what you think and I wasn't talkin' to you. Keep your pie hole
shut and give the little lady a chance to speak for herself. She's not quite a
corpse yet. Go figure.
