Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/11/2014 9:36 PM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: A computer program would be better, automatically assembling stock phrases from your previous efforts, and others, and then posting them non stop. You must be new around here - that's what I've been doing for the past five years. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sci-fi = theology for moderns
Nice rap. Back in the day, when I was still a TM teacher and State Coordinator for the TMO, I used to give a similar advanced lecture called SCI and SciFi. I tend to agree with your basic premise, in that SciFi deals with the edges of what we know of the universe, which is always the same function that theology provided during earlier ages. The only thing I quibble about is your choice of examples. 2001, Gravity, and Solaris all suffer from the same hideous and deforming flaw, interestingly the same flaw that renders theology so unintersting -- humorlessness. Many have commented over the decades on the overseriousness of SciFi, a failing it probably gained from science. But really, when you think about it, who could possibly take any theology or any SciFi seriously while it continues to take *itself* so seriously. If I were to try to pick a SciFi masterwork that came close to expressing my theology about the universe and how it works, it would be something with more heart, and FAR more humor. Something like...dare I say it...Joss Whedon's Firefly and Serenity. Now THAT is a theology I can live with. A ship full of outlaws and hookers and priests and babes, just scraping by on the outer edges of the galaxy, but always scraping by, and still flying. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch3X5WrhwGM From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sci-fi = theology for moderns Theology is the science of God. It's an obsolete set of theories about an obsolescent belief system (Christianity) that has no relevance to moderns. I have no objection to that approach but can't help feeling it misses out on the important point. Which is? That theology was the way that pre-moderns learnt how to regard - that is, how to orient themselves towards - ultimate issues. For example: perhaps the key doctrine of Christianity is Original Sin (the only rival is the doctrine of the Incarnation). What does Original Sin amount to if we disregard the theology? Doesn't it come down to this: if you live your life as if what comes naturally is good and right then you've made a catastrophic error. Human nature is essentially perverse and you have to fight against that perversity if you're not to face disaster. Based on your *own* experience of life; based on your *own* observations of others does that sound plausible or does it sound insane? So how do we moderns learn how to adjust to ultimate issues? Philosophy? hardly! Religion? Forget it! I claim that sci-fi is the genre that has helped us best to make that adjustment. I recall seeing Kubrick's 2001 when it first appeared. When it started with Strauss's tone poem Also sprach Zarathustra over Kubrick's sunrise scene I was laughing almost hysterically in the cinema. So was it funny? No - the laughter was my reaction to the emotional kick of the moment as I realised immediately that here was a director who was prepared to tackle *essential* issues and I was in for a rare treat. I had a similar experience recently when I saw the film Gravity. I'd avoiding watching the movie as I'd expected it to be a special-effects bonanza but emotionally vacuous. Wow! What a surprise. (Spoiler alert!) When at the end Sandra Bullock emerges from the waves it's a true mythological moment. Mankind (woman in this case) emerging from the amniotic fluid; Man emerging from the primordial ocean as he takes the first steps from water to land (symbolized by the frog!). I have to admit that in this case I wasn't laughing - I was literally in tears. Powerful stuff. Whereas Kubrick's film has a gnostic tinge - a human being is reborn as the Starchild far beyond mundane man - Gravity is almost the opposite: this is woman being returned (with a desperate gratitude - who to?) from a total technological environment back to elemental, mother earth. I have similar responses to other sci-fi books and films - Solaris, for example. How curious that a genre - so despised, so niche, so juvenile - can have such an important role to play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-QFj59PON4
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sci-fi = theology for moderns
Actually, now that I think about it, a more fitting theology for our age is probably Joss Whedon's followup SciFi series to Firefly/Serenity, Dollhouse. I consider it one of the best examples of science fiction ever created, and it certainly fits my criterion of containing humor, but it's more relevant to the issues that we as human beings and we as spiritual seekers face in these times. Namely questions like, Is there such a thing as self? and Is there such a thing as 'reality'? The whole premise of the series is that a technology exists that can imprint a person with an entirely new set of skills, memories, traits, and *identity*, which then replace their own. The question dealt with over the course of the two seasons was expressed by the lead character Echo in the first episode. When presented with an alternative to going to prison, the director of the Dollhouse tells Echo, Wouldn't you like to start over, with a clean slate? Echo replies, Have you ever tried to actually clean a slate? You can't...there's always something left over. What could be a more accurate metaphor for the issues of reincarnation and karma, not to mention the mini-deaths and mini-rebirths that occur on a regular basis along the pathway to enlightenment? The series also deals with the most pressing issue of our age -- is the impact of technology a good thing or a bad thing? No matter what tech you come up with, it will be spun and perverted by the Old Guard into something ugly, something used to control and manipulate people rather than liberate them. Besides, my Dollhouse theology has a high Babe Factor. This is important in a theology; just look at the number of gorgeous babes running around Brahmaloka in the Hindu theology. They're not there by accident -- a good theology *needs* good babes. :-) Not to mention that the whole series is about the thing that most human beings on this planet are most hung up about -- SEX. One of the reasons it got cancelled is because America just wasn't ready for dolls who in some cases had been imprinted to become expensive fuck puppets. But -- and this was the kicker that drove conservatives and the moral majority (which are neither) up the wall -- they weren't *only* fuck puppets. They could love, show compassion and integrity and courage, and wind up saving the world. This just did not compute for the uptight, repressed assholes who make up much of America -- in their view whores should just be whores, and EVIL...they shouldn't be portrayed as having (or even capable of having) higher qualities. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgTH4tdtNf8 BTW, s3raphita, if you're not familiar with either series, neither one has any notion of God in it. Which suits me just fine in a theology, because mine doesn't either. Spirituality without God. Go figure. But what could possibly be a more fitting theology for our scientific age? From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sci-fi = theology for moderns Nice rap. Back in the day, when I was still a TM teacher and State Coordinator for the TMO, I used to give a similar advanced lecture called SCI and SciFi. I tend to agree with your basic premise, in that SciFi deals with the edges of what we know of the universe, which is always the same function that theology provided during earlier ages. The only thing I quibble about is your choice of examples. 2001, Gravity, and Solaris all suffer from the same hideous and deforming flaw, interestingly the same flaw that renders theology so unintersting -- humorlessness. Many have commented over the decades on the overseriousness of SciFi, a failing it probably gained from science. But really, when you think about it, who could possibly take any theology or any SciFi seriously while it continues to take *itself* so seriously. If I were to try to pick a SciFi masterwork that came close to expressing my theology about the universe and how it works, it would be something with more heart, and FAR more humor. Something like...dare I say it...Joss Whedon's Firefly and Serenity. Now THAT is a theology I can live with. A ship full of outlaws and hookers and priests and babes, just scraping by on the outer edges of the galaxy, but always scraping by, and still flying. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch3X5WrhwGM From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sci-fi = theology for moderns Theology is the science of God. It's an obsolete set of theories about an obsolescent belief system (Christianity) that has no relevance to moderns. I have no objection to that approach but can't help feeling it misses out on the important point. Which is? That theology
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits
So this is the spin. And it will WORK for those who have the will to believe rather than the wish to find out. The fascinating thing from my cult-watcher point of view is that a great number of TM TBs will pay no attention to this revelation of what the young men behind the curtain are, no more than they paid any attention to revelations that Maharishi was diddling his own students. A well-known fact of neuroscience is that most people will do almost *anything* to keep from abandoning a long-standing belief or belief system. Lying to themselves and continuing to believe in fantasies is perceived by them as far less painful than actually changing or modifying one's beliefs, and thus having to admit I was w...w...w...wrong. I would expect that all over the world TM TBs will hear about the Fairfield pundit riot, find some way to blame outside forces for it, and continue to write their monthly checks to support the pundits and continue writing even bigger checks to have the rioters chant to Hindu gods for them in yagyas. The thing I wish would happen in this scenario unfortunately probably never will. That is, that we'll get to find out the real story. There is a way to do this, and a very simple one, but I would bet that it'll never happen, because Girish Co. will keep it from happening. That is, have a good reporter sit down and do an exit interview with the pundit leader who was disciplined and whose exit prompted all of this acting out. Give him the chance to tell *his* story. What was he supposedly disciplined for? Does he agree with the charges leveled against him? What's the story on the indentured servitude aspect of the Maharishi pundits -- is it really true that the pundits' parents aren't paid a penny if the pundit doesn't complete his three years of service? Now that he's been sent home, will *his* parents not receive a penny that was promised to them when they sold their son into slavery, to Girish Co.? What's the daily life of a Maharishi pundit really like? Wouldn't you like to learn the answers to such questions? To find out what *prompted* this uprising and rock-throwing and rioting among boys who have been presented to the world as not only the personification of peace, but the creators of it? You won't. The TMO will keep spinning and spinning, and the rubes will keep falling for it. From: anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Good rap, Xeno. Compare and contrast to what he's replying to, and the mindstate expressed in those comments. The people who live for argumentation and ego-posturing and getting their enemies do so because they're simply not *capable* of writing at this level and having discussions at this level. They want to derail any such conversations and get things focused on petty squabbling again, because that's all they can handle intellectually. From: anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 2:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm Enlightenment is like that. Before enlightenment you believe it exists. After, doesn't matter because you were chasing something you had all along, so it really does not exist. The idea that there was some special state called enlightenment was a pipe dream. Notice some teachers, like MMY talk of enlightenment, and some like UG Krishanmurti say there really isn't anything called enlightenment. Depending on where you are in the search, you can take your pick how you want to portray what you have experienced. If someone is searching for it, then by all means tell them it could be worthwhile, because if they have the bug authentically, they won't rest until they find out. Statements that it is a crock are also useful, for if they find out, that statement then means something as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/11/2014 12:08 PM, authfriend@... wrote: It looks like Richard is attempting to protect Barry from the increasingly embarrassing bloopers he makes when he has one of his fits of demonizing the folks he doesn't like (i.e., his critics). Yes, I was attempting to protect Barry because he needs a little help every once in awhile when he has one those fits of demonizing people he doesn't like; and because he is from Texas too and we were both military brats at one time; and we both liked the Rama guy that he doesn't want to talk about. But, Barry seems confused these days - he once posted that he didn't believe in enlightenment now he is posting that he does believe in enlightenment. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits
Or, said another way: From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits So this is the spin. And it will WORK for those who have the will to believe rather than the wish to find out. The fascinating thing from my cult-watcher point of view is that a great number of TM TBs will pay no attention to this revelation of what the young men behind the curtain are, no more than they paid any attention to revelations that Maharishi was diddling his own students. A well-known fact of neuroscience is that most people will do almost *anything* to keep from abandoning a long-standing belief or belief system. Lying to themselves and continuing to believe in fantasies is perceived by them as far less painful than actually changing or modifying one's beliefs, and thus having to admit I was w...w...w...wrong. I would expect that all over the world TM TBs will hear about the Fairfield pundit riot, find some way to blame outside forces for it, and continue to write their monthly checks to support the pundits and continue writing even bigger checks to have the rioters chant to Hindu gods for them in yagyas. The thing I wish would happen in this scenario unfortunately probably never will. That is, that we'll get to find out the real story. There is a way to do this, and a very simple one, but I would bet that it'll never happen, because Girish Co. will keep it from happening. That is, have a good reporter sit down and do an exit interview with the pundit leader who was disciplined and whose exit prompted all of this acting out. Give him the chance to tell *his* story. What was he supposedly disciplined for? Does he agree with the charges leveled against him? What's the story on the indentured servitude aspect of the Maharishi pundits -- is it really true that the pundits' parents aren't paid a penny if the pundit doesn't complete his three years of service? Now that he's been sent home, will *his* parents not receive a penny that was promised to them when they sold their son into slavery, to Girish Co.? What's the daily life of a Maharishi pundit really like? Wouldn't you like to learn the answers to such questions? To find out what *prompted* this uprising and rock-throwing and rioting among boys who have been presented to the world as not only the personification of peace, but the creators of it? You won't. The TMO will keep spinning and spinning, and the rubes will keep falling for it. From: anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga Sutra for Divine Hearing
Whoa! That guy seems to be a mahaaguru!
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
You're welcome, Steve. Hey how is it down there? Any flowers yet? Is the store getting busy with people stocking up on gardening supplies? I bet it's a good time of year for you all. How is the Ikea construction going? Hope you have a wonderful day. It's blustery here. On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:17 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, a smile at the start of the day! A laugh at the end of the day! Thank you! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, it's pointless for you to present yourself as the upholder of truth and accurate descriptions. Even in this thread I've seen indications that you are far from that. Except in your own deluded mind. And I don't believe you when you say that you are just curious about how far my admiration of Richard extends. I think you are trolling, butting in and muddying the waters as usual. As you did when I simply disagreed with something Buck said about a meeting he and I both attended and you did not. Why do you even have an interest in the difference of opinion between me and Buck? Really, what significance is it to you? As Richard might say, I think you got a brain problem going on! On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:14 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: And what do you think about Richard's first statement, suggesting that Emily is trying to learn TM by reading about it on the Internet? Do you think that's an accurate description of what Emily is doing? Just curious as to how far your admiration of Richard extends. Emily, Richard's last 3 sentences here are a concise explanation of why badge checking is good. On 3/11/2014 10:34 AM, emilymaenot@... wrote: I have tried to listen to MMY videos posted here; the power of his enlightened persona does not translate through these videos for me. The TMO is an organization with a certain structure You are not following the organization structure - you can't learn TM by reading about it on the internet or in a chat room like this. You are supposed to attend a three night lecture to explain what TM is all about - you apparently have not done that for some reason. It's probably already too late for you to overcome your prejudices against MMY after reading the posts here. MMY has NOTHING to do with your practice of TM. In order for TM to be successful you need to approach the practice innocently. That's why they check dome badges, not to be exclusive, but so as to not get you confused about the advanced practices. That's the point I think.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits
And not a WORD about Robin Carlsen, OR Judy - Bravo! Seriously, you are so woefully ignorant of your own emotional needs, and trauma, it is both sad, and funny, to watch you instantly transfer your inner rage, to the subject du jour. I doubt, at this point in your life, you will ever face yourself, and whatever you have been through. You continuously rant against bad things and bad people, to distract yourself. You are convinced that if the TMO did not exist, and all of those who support it, and Maharishi's teaching, you would finally be happy. Your holy grail. But, happiness comes from within. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : So this is the spin. And it will WORK for those who have the will to believe rather than the wish to find out. The fascinating thing from my cult-watcher point of view is that a great number of TM TBs will pay no attention to this revelation of what the young men behind the curtain are, no more than they paid any attention to revelations that Maharishi was diddling his own students. A well-known fact of neuroscience is that most people will do almost *anything* to keep from abandoning a long-standing belief or belief system. Lying to themselves and continuing to believe in fantasies is perceived by them as far less painful than actually changing or modifying one's beliefs, and thus having to admit I was w...w...w...wrong. I would expect that all over the world TM TBs will hear about the Fairfield pundit riot, find some way to blame outside forces for it, and continue to write their monthly checks to support the pundits and continue writing even bigger checks to have the rioters chant to Hindu gods for them in yagyas. The thing I wish would happen in this scenario unfortunately probably never will. That is, that we'll get to find out the real story. There is a way to do this, and a very simple one, but I would bet that it'll never happen, because Girish Co. will keep it from happening. That is, have a good reporter sit down and do an exit interview with the pundit leader who was disciplined and whose exit prompted all of this acting out. Give him the chance to tell *his* story. What was he supposedly disciplined for? Does he agree with the charges leveled against him? What's the story on the indentured servitude aspect of the Maharishi pundits -- is it really true that the pundits' parents aren't paid a penny if the pundit doesn't complete his three years of service? Now that he's been sent home, will *his* parents not receive a penny that was promised to them when they sold their son into slavery, to Girish Co.? What's the daily life of a Maharishi pundit really like? Wouldn't you like to learn the answers to such questions? To find out what *prompted* this uprising and rock-throwing and rioting among boys who have been presented to the world as not only the personification of peace, but the creators of it? You won't. The TMO will keep spinning and spinning, and the rubes will keep falling for it. From: anartaxius@... anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sci-fi = theology for moderns
You really enjoy living in your head, huh? You express the zero-sum game mentality very well, indicating that for every winner, there must be a loser. Also, instead of gaining your deepest insights from the silver screen, have you ever tried to establish and understand a truth of your own, by yourself, based on experience and reflection, vs. agreeing, or disagreeing, with values reflected in the common culture? Personal knowledge has *nothing* to do conforming, or not, to others' ideas - Sci-fi, or not. Science Fiction, is called fiction for a reason. There is no truth to it, nor any practical value in watching it. Pure entertainment is all sci-fi is, except for the small minded, or desperate. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Theology is the science of God. It's an obsolete set of theories about an obsolescent belief system (Christianity) that has no relevance to moderns. I have no objection to that approach but can't help feeling it misses out on the important point. Which is? That theology was the way that pre-moderns learnt how to regard - that is, how to orient themselves towards - ultimate issues. For example: perhaps the key doctrine of Christianity is Original Sin (the only rival is the doctrine of the Incarnation). What does Original Sin amount to if we disregard the theology? Doesn't it come down to this: if you live your life as if what comes naturally is good and right then you've made a catastrophic error. Human nature is essentially perverse and you have to fight against that perversity if you're not to face disaster. Based on your *own* experience of life; based on your *own* observations of others does that sound plausible or does it sound insane? So how do we moderns learn how to adjust to ultimate issues? Philosophy? hardly! Religion? Forget it! I claim that sci-fi is the genre that has helped us best to make that adjustment. I recall seeing Kubrick's 2001 when it first appeared. When it started with Strauss's tone poem Also sprach Zarathustra over Kubrick's sunrise scene I was laughing almost hysterically in the cinema. So was it funny? No - the laughter was my reaction to the emotional kick of the moment as I realised immediately that here was a director who was prepared to tackle *essential* issues and I was in for a rare treat. I had a similar experience recently when I saw the film Gravity. I'd avoiding watching the movie as I'd expected it to be a special-effects bonanza but emotionally vacuous. Wow! What a surprise. (Spoiler alert!) When at the end Sandra Bullock emerges from the waves it's a true mythological moment. Mankind (woman in this case) emerging from the amniotic fluid; Man emerging from the primordial ocean as he takes the first steps from water to land (symbolized by the frog!). I have to admit that in this case I wasn't laughing - I was literally in tears. Powerful stuff. Whereas Kubrick's film has a gnostic tinge - a human being is reborn as the Starchild far beyond mundane man - Gravity is almost the opposite: this is woman being returned (with a desperate gratitude - who to?) from a total technological environment back to elemental, mother earth. I have similar responses to other sci-fi books and films - Solaris, for example. How curious that a genre - so despised, so niche, so juvenile - can have such an important role to play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-QFj59PON4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-QFj59PON4
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Is this satire, Barry?? I have not once, in my many years on this forum, EVER seen you address something point for point, intellectually. I do see you constantly rant irrationally, and bring up the same points from your diseased memory, relentlessly. Perhaps you consider that the same thing? It isn't. Believe me, it really isn't. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Good rap, Xeno. Compare and contrast to what he's replying to, and the mindstate expressed in those comments. The people who live for argumentation and ego-posturing and getting their enemies do so because they're simply not *capable* of writing at this level and having discussions at this level. They want to derail any such conversations and get things focused on petty squabbling again, because that's all they can handle intellectually. From: anartaxius@... anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 2:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm Enlightenment is like that. Before enlightenment you believe it exists. After, doesn't matter because you were chasing something you had all along, so it really does not exist. The idea that there was some special state called enlightenment was a pipe dream. Notice some teachers, like MMY talk of enlightenment, and some like UG Krishanmurti say there really isn't anything called enlightenment. Depending on where you are in the search, you can take your pick how you want to portray what you have experienced. If someone is searching for it, then by all means tell them it could be worthwhile, because if they have the bug authentically, they won't rest until they find out. Statements that it is a crock are also useful, for if they find out, that statement then means something as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/11/2014 12:08 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: It looks like Richard is attempting to protect Barry from the increasingly embarrassing bloopers he makes when he has one of his fits of demonizing the folks he doesn't like (i.e., his critics). Yes, I was attempting to protect Barry because he needs a little help every once in awhile when he has one those fits of demonizing people he doesn't like; and because he is from Texas too and we were both military brats at one time; and we both liked the Rama guy that he doesn't want to talk about. But, Barry seems confused these days - he once posted that he didn't believe in enlightenment now he is posting that he does believe in enlightenment. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
Hi Share, Everything going pretty well business wise. The neighborhood in which our business is located is undergoing a tremendous revitalization. The city about 10 years ago blighted about a 10 square block area in the hopes of developing a bio tech corridor. It seems now to be bearing fruit. In fact the spot where our business is located was part of the blighted area, but the neighborhood lobbied to have it exempted. So that has been a positive. The Ikea store is scheduled to open in the fall of 2015, so there's not been much activity lately except that many of business is the spot where they are building are getting ready to move out. Today some of the cold weather is back. Yesterday, probably like up there, was a beautiful day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : You're welcome, Steve. Hey how is it down there? Any flowers yet? Is the store getting busy with people stocking up on gardening supplies? I bet it's a good time of year for you all. How is the Ikea construction going? Hope you have a wonderful day. It's blustery here. On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:17 PM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Share, a smile at the start of the day! A laugh at the end of the day! Thank you! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Judy, it's pointless for you to present yourself as the upholder of truth and accurate descriptions. Even in this thread I've seen indications that you are far from that. Except in your own deluded mind. And I don't believe you when you say that you are just curious about how far my admiration of Richard extends. I think you are trolling, butting in and muddying the waters as usual. As you did when I simply disagreed with something Buck said about a meeting he and I both attended and you did not. Why do you even have an interest in the difference of opinion between me and Buck? Really, what significance is it to you? As Richard might say, I think you got a brain problem going on! On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:14 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: And what do you think about Richard's first statement, suggesting that Emily is trying to learn TM by reading about it on the Internet? Do you think that's an accurate description of what Emily is doing? Just curious as to how far your admiration of Richard extends. Emily, Richard's last 3 sentences here are a concise explanation of why badge checking is good. On 3/11/2014 10:34 AM, emilymaenot@... wrote: I have tried to listen to MMY videos posted here; the power of his enlightened persona does not translate through these videos for me. The TMO is an organization with a certain structure You are not following the organization structure - you can't learn TM by reading about it on the internet or in a chat room like this. You are supposed to attend a three night lecture to explain what TM is all about - you apparently have not done that for some reason. It's probably already too late for you to overcome your prejudices against MMY after reading the posts here. MMY has NOTHING to do with your practice of TM. In order for TM to be successful you need to approach the practice innocently. That's why they check dome badges, not to be exclusive, but so as to not get you confused about the advanced practices. That's the point I think.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits
Leaders had planned to send the man home to India, but decided not to after what witnesses described as an 'uprising' on the campus http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vkZxuoOz http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vkZxuoOz Opsie. Now that he's been sent home, will *his* parents not receive a penny that was promised to them when they sold their son into slavery, to Girish Co.?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Or, said another way: Another gold mine find by Bawwy via FB, indicative of his intellectual depth of investigation once again. And this to, once again, take an opportunity to gloat. Remember Bawwy condensed is, I hate you all, so there. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits So this is the spin. And it will WORK for those who have the will to believe rather than the wish to find out. The fascinating thing from my cult-watcher point of view is that a great number of TM TBs will pay no attention to this revelation of what the young men behind the curtain are, no more than they paid any attention to revelations that Maharishi was diddling his own students. A well-known fact of neuroscience is that most people will do almost *anything* to keep from abandoning a long-standing belief or belief system. Lying to themselves and continuing to believe in fantasies is perceived by them as far less painful than actually changing or modifying one's beliefs, and thus having to admit I was w...w...w...wrong. I would expect that all over the world TM TBs will hear about the Fairfield pundit riot, find some way to blame outside forces for it, and continue to write their monthly checks to support the pundits and continue writing even bigger checks to have the rioters chant to Hindu gods for them in yagyas. The thing I wish would happen in this scenario unfortunately probably never will. That is, that we'll get to find out the real story. There is a way to do this, and a very simple one, but I would bet that it'll never happen, because Girish Co. will keep it from happening. That is, have a good reporter sit down and do an exit interview with the pundit leader who was disciplined and whose exit prompted all of this acting out. Give him the chance to tell *his* story. What was he supposedly disciplined for? Does he agree with the charges leveled against him? What's the story on the indentured servitude aspect of the Maharishi pundits -- is it really true that the pundits' parents aren't paid a penny if the pundit doesn't complete his three years of service? Now that he's been sent home, will *his* parents not receive a penny that was promised to them when they sold their son into slavery, to Girish Co.? What's the daily life of a Maharishi pundit really like? Wouldn't you like to learn the answers to such questions? To find out what *prompted* this uprising and rock-throwing and rioting among boys who have been presented to the world as not only the personification of peace, but the creators of it? You won't. The TMO will keep spinning and spinning, and the rubes will keep falling for it. From: anartaxius@... anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news
[FairfieldLife] TM'rs manufacture sturdy cars?
Just looked at the inspection statistics of cars here in Finland E.g. in the group of 9 years old cars (2004 -) Toyota seems be almost by far the least rejected(?) car: Honda: 1st and 10th Toyota 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 8th and 9th!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits
Reckon the Jefferson County Sheriffs Dept. will submit a bill to MUM for the repair of the sheriff's vehicle? Or the other responders who were called in to quell the uprising? I wonder how many native Iowans would be not in jail after such an event. On Wed, 3/12/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 7:40 AM So this is the spin. And it will WORK for those who have the will to believe rather than the wish to find out. The fascinating thing from my cult-watcher point of view is that a great number of TM TBs will pay no attention to this revelation of what the young men behind the curtain are, no more than they paid any attention to revelations that Maharishi was diddling his own students. A well-known fact of neuroscience is that most people will do almost *anything* to keep from abandoning a long-standing belief or belief system. Lying to themselves and continuing to believe in fantasies is perceived by them as far less painful than actually changing or modifying one's beliefs, and thus having to admit I was w...w...w...wrong. I would expect that all over the world TM TBs will hear about the Fairfield pundit riot, find some way to blame outside forces for it, and continue to write their monthly checks to support the pundits and continue writing even bigger checks to have the rioters chant to Hindu gods for them in yagyas. The thing I wish would happen in this scenario unfortunately probably never will. That is, that we'll get to find out the real story. There is a way to do this, and a very simple one, but I would bet that it'll never happen, because Girish Co. will keep it from happening. That is, have a good reporter sit down and do an exit interview with the pundit leader who was disciplined and whose exit prompted all of this acting out. Give him the chance to tell *his* story. What was he supposedly disciplined for? Does he agree with the charges leveled against him? What's the story on the indentured servitude aspect of the Maharishi pundits -- is it really true that the pundits' parents aren't paid a penny if the pundit doesn't complete his three years of service? Now that he's been sent home, will *his* parents not receive a penny that was promised to them when they sold their son into slavery, to Girish Co.? What's the daily life of a Maharishi pundit really like? Wouldn't you like to learn the answers to such questions? To find out what *prompted* this uprising and rock-throwing and rioting among boys who have been presented to the world as not only the personification of peace, but the creators of it? You won't. The TMO will keep spinning and spinning, and the rubes will keep falling for it. From: anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news
[FairfieldLife] Rioting Pundits in Iowa
Our state motto is, “Our Liberties we Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain”. Quite frankly I am ready to put on a doty and charge the wire at the compound in sympathy with our world-peace-making-chanting pandit friends up in Vedic City. It is completely within the laws of nature of Iowa to riot. When the famous chief Blackhawk was once a young buck he came over to Iowa from Illinois with a band of like minded youthful warriors in the spring of one year and completely annihilated the Ioway Indians one day in riot. Obliterated the Ioway. But Iowa and our Laws of Nature here did not die that day. That spring day was youth throwing more than rocks and heck, that happened just a few miles west of Vedic City. I think we should all be sympathetic to the long progression of balancing equal rights for all powers that is Iowa and of what it means to be Iowan. These pandits are only the expression of who we are anyway and they can not help themselves in what is only natural here. Let us go kindly on them and even be helpful to them and their plight in Iowa. An Old Iowa Meditator, -Buck in the Dome (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then surrounded the marked patrol vehicle and threw rocks at the driver, threw rocks at the back window breaking the window, they attempted to break off the mirrors, kicked out a back light and were rocking the vehicle. There were approximately 70-80 pandits surrounding the vehicle. The sheriff’s vehicle was able to back away from the crowd and call for assistance. The large group then continued east on 170th street picking up rocks and debris and continued to throw these at the sheriff’s vehicle. After some time, pandit personnel were able to stop the group about ¼ to ½ of a mile from the property and after some time were able to walk them back to the pandit property. Law enforcement agencies staged close to the entrance of the property on 170th street to contain the group if they did come back onto the roadway. All units were able to go back into service at around 1000 hrs. Assistance was provided by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. No personnel were injured during this incident. Feste37 writes: This report is a disaster for the pundit program. I think the program should be shut down as it has obviously failed. To my knowledge, there has never been a riot like this in Fairfield. It's an acute embarrassment for the movement and terrible for town-university relations. mjackson74 writes: This seems like unusually violent behavior for a group of men who spend their days reciting the vedic texts and doing yagyas for world peace. Usually when bad behavior manifests amongst the TM ranks, the official Movement position is that the people were not on the program not doing the program correctly - wonder what type of training in yagya these boys had. On Tue, 3/11/14, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 6:38 PM (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rioting Pundits in Iowa
Please pass these sentiments on to Bevan, Hagelin and the TMO at large - I am sure they will invite youto tea to discuss the matter or at least to confiscate your Dome Badge. On Wed, 3/12/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rioting Pundits in Iowa To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 2:03 PM Our state motto is, “Our Liberties we Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain”. Quite frankly I am ready to put on a doty and charge the wire at the compound in sympathy with our world-peace-making-chanting pandit friends up in Vedic City. It is completely within the laws of nature of Iowa to riot. When the famous chief Blackhawk was once a young buck he came over to Iowa from Illinois with a band of like minded youthful warriors in the spring of one year and completely annihilated the Ioway Indians one day in riot. Obliterated the Ioway. But Iowa and our Laws of Nature here did not die that day. That spring day was youth throwing more than rocks and heck, that happened just a few miles west of Vedic City. I think we should all be sympathetic to the long progression of balancing equal rights for all powers that is Iowa and of what it means to be Iowan. These pandits are only the expression of who we are anyway and they can not help themselves in what is only natural here. Let us go kindly on them and even be helpful to them and their plight in Iowa. An Old Iowa Meditator, -Buck in the Dome (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then surrounded the marked patrol vehicle and threw rocks at the driver, threw rocks at the back window breaking the window, they attempted to break off the mirrors, kicked out a back light and were rocking the vehicle. There were approximately 70-80 pandits surrounding the vehicle. The sheriff’s vehicle was able to back away from the crowd and call for assistance. The large group then continued east on 170th street picking up rocks and debris and continued to throw these at the sheriff’s vehicle. After some time, pandit personnel were able to stop the group about ¼ to ½ of a mile from the property and after some time were able to walk them back to the pandit property. Law enforcement agencies staged close to the entrance of the property on 170th street to contain the group if they did come back onto the roadway. All units were able to go back into service at around 1000 hrs. Assistance was provided by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. No personnel were injured during this incident. Feste37 writes:This report is a disaster for the pundit program. I think the program should be shut down as it has obviously failed. To my knowledge, there has never been a riot like this in Fairfield. It's an acute embarrassment for the movement and terrible for town-university relations. mjackson74 writes: This seems like unusually violent behavior for a group of men who spend their days reciting the vedic texts and doing yagyas for world peace. Usually when bad behavior manifests amongst the TM ranks, the official Movement position is that the people were not on the program not doing the program correctly - wonder what type of training in yagya these boys had. On Tue, 3/11/14, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: Re:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
Doc, I agree with you on both counts. Someone is definitely withholding info. And the fake passports?! Is that not a no brainer?! On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:00 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: My bet is on the two Iranians using fake passports, one of whom was carrying a suitcase. Also, with the hundreds of satellites above us, someone saw something, and isn't talking. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : It's what is known in journalismese as a Man bites dog story. I don't know about fun to solve; that sounds a little heartless when the lives of so many people--including relatives and friends--are involved. But the mystery certainly is compelling, and it makes no sense to suggest there's something wrong with that perspective. The latest NYTimes story is headlined, Malaysia Jet Changed Course at Time of Disappearance, Officials Say. Some officials, that is. As if there weren't enough confusion already, the reports are conflicting: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-jet.html Perspective? Sure, people across the globe are dropping like flies from heart attacks, road accidents, old age . . . but an aircraft vanishing without trace is a MYSTERY and mysteries are fun to solve! Think Amelia Earhart - we're still trying to work out what happened to her and she vanished in 1937.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rioting Pundits in Iowa
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rioting Pundits in Iowa Please pass these sentiments on to Bevan, Hagelin and the TMO at large - I am sure they will invite youto tea to discuss the matter or at least to confiscate your Dome Badge. Indeed. With any luck you're be persecuted by the TMO, and become the martyr you've always wanted to be. Maybe you could even rally a bunch of like-minded non-Indian Fairfielders to your cause, and they could act out their love of liberty, patriotic fervor, and spiritual aspirations by destroying a cop car or two in protest. All of that, after all, would be much better than admitting that the TMSP and chanting the Vedas don't do diddley-squat -- either to positively affect the world, or even affect the lives of the people practicing them. THAT would involve admitting that you might have been w...w...w...wrong to believe the bullshit that Maharishi was spouting. Can't have that. Much better to find someone to blame for this mini-scenario so you can avoid ever looking at the Big Picture, and the fact that you are OWNED by a charlatan. You can't even look at this situation and come to the OBVIOUS conclusion about it any more. Feste gets what this means, Buck, and has already proposed the most graceful solution. What's wrong with you that you can't see as clearly? On Wed, 3/12/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Rioting Pundits in Iowa To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 2:03 PM Our state motto is, “Our Liberties we Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain”. Quite frankly I am ready to put on a doty and charge the wire at the compound in sympathy with our world-peace-making-chanting pandit friends up in Vedic City. It is completely within the laws of nature of Iowa to riot. When the famous chief Blackhawk was once a young buck he came over to Iowa from Illinois with a band of like minded youthful warriors in the spring of one year and completely annihilated the Ioway Indians one day in riot. Obliterated the Ioway. But Iowa and our Laws of Nature here did not die that day. That spring day was youth throwing more than rocks and heck, that happened just a few miles west of Vedic City. I think we should all be sympathetic to the long progression of balancing equal rights for all powers that is Iowa and of what it means to be Iowan. These pandits are only the expression of who we are anyway and they can not help themselves in what is only natural here. Let us go kindly on them and even be helpful to them and their plight in Iowa. An Old Iowa Meditator, -Buck in the Dome (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then surrounded the marked patrol vehicle and threw rocks at the driver, threw rocks at the back window breaking the window, they attempted to break off the mirrors, kicked out a back light and were rocking the vehicle. There were approximately 70-80 pandits surrounding the vehicle. The sheriff’s vehicle was able to back away from the crowd and call for assistance. The large group then continued east on 170th street picking up rocks and debris and continued to throw these at the sheriff’s vehicle. After some time, pandit personnel were able to stop the group about ¼ to ½ of a mile from the property and after some time were able to walk them back to the pandit property. Law enforcement agencies staged close to the entrance of the property on 170th street to contain the group if they did come back onto the roadway. All units were able to go back into service at around 1000 hrs. Assistance was provided by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, Fairfield Police
[FairfieldLife] You gotta admit...
The term Vedic pundit riots has a real ring to it. It's got mileage, meme- and media-wise. It'll be hard to spin this one positively. I mean, the image conveyed is a lot like the one below. Holy boys who describe themselves as creators of world peace out in the streets rioting and wasting a cop car. I honestly didn't think it was possible for the TM movement could shoot itself in the foot any worse than it already has, but they've proved me w...w...w...wrong. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
On 3/11/2014 10:00 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: My bet is on the two Iranians using fake passports, one of whom was carrying a suitcase. My bet is that the plane experienced a sudden decompression, the pilot tried to turn around to get back to Kuala Lumpur, but the pilots both blacked out because they failed to put on face masks in time. The debris is far out in the South China Sea somewhere. It may take as long as a year for anything to wash up on shore.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Puns Can Be Fun
I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me! On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Why did Cleopatra always go around saying no? Because she was the queen of denial. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: What does a clock do when it's hungry? It goes back for seconds. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: When you get a bladder infection, urine trouble. On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: What do you call a dinosaur with an extensive vocabulary? A thesaurus. On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: How do you make holy water? Boil the hell out of it! On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: I didn't like my beard at first.Then it grew on me. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Energizer Bunny arrested. Charged with battery. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Class trip to a Coca-Cola factory. I hope there's no pop quiz. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/8/2014 9:23 AM, Share Long wrote: if they had reservations, wouldn't that make them hesitate? Christopher Columbus discovered the New World in 1492. When he was standing on the beach exchanging gifts, one of the native inhabitants said: But, Chris, why do you call us Indians? Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/11/2014 11:17 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: I think you are trolling, butting in and muddying the waters as usual. So, the truth finally comes out. Thanks, Share.
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/12/2014 1:18 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/11/2014 9:36 PM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: A computer program would be better, automatically assembling stock phrases from your previous efforts, and others, and then posting them non stop. You must be new around here - that's what I've been doing for the past five years. Go figure. Just in case I missed something - thanks for your reply.
[FairfieldLife] Jack Petranker: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 03/12/2014
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rioting Pundits in Iowa
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rioting Pundits in Iowa Please pass these sentiments on to Bevan, Hagelin and the TMO at large - I am sure they will invite youto tea to discuss the matter or at least to confiscate your Dome Badge. Indeed. With any luck you're be persecuted by the TMO, and become the martyr you've always wanted to be. Maybe you could even rally a bunch of like-minded non-Indian Fairfielders to your cause, and they could act out their love of liberty, patriotic fervor, and spiritual aspirations by destroying a cop car or two in protest. All of that, after all, would be much better than admitting that the TMSP and chanting the Vedas don't do diddley-squat -- either to positively affect the world, or even affect the lives of the people practicing them. THAT would involve admitting that you might have been w...w...w...wrong to believe the bullshit that Maharishi was spouting. Can't have that. Much better to find someone to blame for this mini-scenario so you can avoid ever looking at the Big Picture, and the fact that you are OWNED by a charlatan. You can't even look at this situation and come to the OBVIOUS conclusion about it any more. Feste gets what this means, Buck, and has already proposed the most graceful solution. What's wrong with you that you can't see as clearly? Yea Buck, what the hell is your problem? Oh, I forgot, if you don't agree with Bawwy, there's something wrong with you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: You gotta admit...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : The term Vedic pundit riots has a real ring to it. It's got mileage, meme- and media-wise. It'll be hard to spin this one positively. I mean, the image conveyed is a lot like the one below. Holy boys who describe themselves as creators of world peace out in the streets rioting and wasting a cop car. I honestly didn't think it was possible for the TM movement could shoot itself in the foot any worse than it already has, but they've proved me w...w...w...wrong. :-) I suggest you get that stutter looked at - it could prove inconvenient since your last name begins with W. Hi, my name is Bawwy W...W...W...right.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits
On 3/12/2014 2:40 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Lying to themselves and continuing to believe in fantasies is perceived by them as far less painful than actually changing or modifying one's beliefs, and thus having to admit I was w...w...w...wrong. This is probably true, but I still would like to know how you were brought under so much mind control by Rama that you actually believe you saw him levitate up into the air and hover in front of a large crowd of people. This event isn't mentioned in any reports I've read about Rama and his cult. It's not mentioned in Mark Laxer's book or anywhere on the Rama Cult blog. You'd think this would be an earth shattering event! Go figure. Speaking of having fun with pundits, it looks like you don't want to talk about the Rama levitation event, but you keep bringing the subject up about other people believing in fantasies and lying to themselves. I'm beginning to think you're just trying to push our buttons for fun and amusement - maybe we should just call in the shrinks. Where is Dr.Pete when we need him? Take Me For A Ride, by Mark Laxer: http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/
Re: [FairfieldLife] a REALLY important meditator meeting today 1:30pm
On 3/12/2014 2:46 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: They want to derail any such conversations and get things focused on petty squabbling again, because that's all they can handle intellectually. It looks like to me you just tried to derail a perfectly good thread about an important TMO meeting about how to get enlightened with TMSP. It took over three days for this thread to hit bottom. Go figure. In a previous post you said you didn't even believe in enlightenment, now you want to rap about what, your own enlightenment? I'm not sure how much intellectual conversations I can take today at that intense level. I may have a brain problem situation on my hands. Maybe I'll feel better after I get back from doing my program. So, until I get back to the office, maybe you should just continue the squabbling.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
The no-brainer is uninformed speculation. It actually took some investigative work, checking into their backgrounds and current situations, to pretty much rule out the possibility of those two passengers being terrorists. Try looking at a news story or two. (...three, two, one, WHINE) But Judy... Doc, I agree with you on both counts. Someone is definitely withholding info. And the fake passports?! Is that not a no brainer?! My bet is on the two Iranians using fake passports, one of whom was carrying a suitcase. Also, with the hundreds of satellites above us, someone saw something, and isn't talking. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : It's what is known in journalismese as a Man bites dog story. I don't know about fun to solve; that sounds a little heartless when the lives of so many people--including relatives and friends--are involved. But the mystery certainly is compelling, and it makes no sense to suggest there's something wrong with that perspective. The latest NYTimes story is headlined, Malaysia Jet Changed Course at Time of Disappearance, Officials Say. Some officials, that is. As if there weren't enough confusion already, the reports are conflicting: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-jet.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-jet.html?hp Perspective? Sure, people across the globe are dropping like flies from heart attacks, road accidents, old age . . . but an aircraft vanishing without trace is a MYSTERY and mysteries are fun to solve! Think Amelia Earhart - we're still trying to work out what happened to her and she vanished in 1937.
[FairfieldLife] A sunny afternoon in God-forsaken Holland
It's strange. I live in a university town, but there are no riots happening. There are some folks, after all, who are trying to convince me that if riots *were* happening, it would be a sign of the rioters acting in accord with the Laws Of Nature. Not that the *lack* of evidence of the Laws Of Nature should be a surprise to someone living in the Netherlands. I mean, we've got legalized prostitution, abortion, and cannabis, and we've had the last one for over 30 years. We were one of the first countries on the planet to legalize same-sex marriage, and we even allow them steenkin' media pirates to get away with it without fear of prosecution. The whole damned country is one big cesspool of sin, so one could make a case for the Laws Of Nature not wanting to put in an appearance here. So what accounts for all the sunshine and the warm weather, sufficient that I can finally sit out on the patio at Bad Habits and work here -- without a coat, without gloves, and without a care? There must have been a serious fuckup deep in the gears that drive the Laws Of Nature. Me, I'm just grateful for the sunshine and the good beer and the good company, and don't feel any particular need to attribute these things to anything or anyone. They just happened, and I happened to be here to appreciate and enjoy them. What a relief. Some people on this forum seem to believe that one can only truly appreciate life if they personally (as butt-bouncers emeritus in the Fairfield domes) or as members of the group they identify with get the *credit* for it. A few of them seem to be freaking out lately, because it's become painfully obvious that the programs offered by the group they identify with can't even keep a bunch of holy pundit boys from rioting and trashing a police car. SO much easier to just assume that All Of This happens pretty much by accident, and that neither I nor any group I am part of (if I were part of any group) is in any way responsible for it happening. SO much less likely to inflate one's ego and sense of self-importance. I am just a puny human, enjoying the fruits of chance, and trying my best to enjoy them fully. I didn't create them, I didn't bring them into manifestation with the awesome power of my mind, as they've been told they can do with *their* minds by the group they identify with. That group has even told them that their minds, because they bounce on their butts twice a day, are something-X times more powerful than the minds of lesser spit non-butt-bouncers like myself. Hard to let go of that much imagined self-importance, I guess. Me, I'm not important at all. I'm just a guy enjoying a beer and rapping on the Internet while sitting in the sun. I somehow think I've got a better gig than the ones who consider themselves personally responsible for the fate of the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sci-fi = theology for moderns
You really enjoy living in your head, huh? : Yes, and I keep it well fed with juicy morsels. Pure entertainment is all sci-fi is, except for the small minded, or desperate: Jesus! What do have against fiction? “It is only a novel... or, in short, only some work in which the greatest powers of the mind are displayed, in which the most thorough knowledge of human nature, the happiest delineation of its varieties, the liveliest effusions of wit and humour, are conveyed to the world in the best-chosen language” ― Jane Austen, Northanger Abbey Also, instead of gaining your deepest insights from the silver screen: Cinema has been the dominant art form for a hundred years. Check out The Pervert's Guide to Cinema by Slavoj Zizek for a fun ride . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvuSpwIBUAI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvuSpwIBUAI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rioting Pundits in Iowa
These pandits are in a fine tradition of civil disobedience in Iowa. The long and active working of the underground railroad and anti-slavery agitation in Iowa is of that spring riot tradition for equal rights. John Brown's assault in riot of civil disobedience on the Federal Arsenal at Harper's Ferry was mounted from IOWA, hosted by IOWANS and even with IOWA youth going along in riot with John Brown. Riot is not new to Iowa. Rioting is in the dirt of our Natural Laws and is very much part of what it is to be a Hawkeye. Our state motto is, “Our Liberties we Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain”. Quite frankly I am ready to put on a doty and charge the wire at the compound in sympathy with our world-peace-making-chanting pandit friends up in Vedic City. It is completely within the laws of nature of Iowa to riot. When the famous chief Blackhawk was once a young buck he came over to Iowa from Illinois with a band of like minded youthful warriors in the spring of one year and completely annihilated the Ioway Indians one day in riot. Obliterated the Ioway. But Iowa and our Laws of Nature here did not die that day. That spring day was youth throwing more than rocks and heck, that happened just a few miles west of Vedic City. I think we should all be sympathetic to the long progression of balancing equal rights for all powers that is Iowa and of what it means to be Iowan. These pandits are only the expression of who we are anyway and they can not help themselves in what is only natural here. Let us go kindly on them and even be helpful to them and their plight in Iowa. An Old Iowa Meditator, -Buck in the Dome (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then surrounded the marked patrol vehicle and threw rocks at the driver, threw rocks at the back window breaking the window, they attempted to break off the mirrors, kicked out a back light and were rocking the vehicle. There were approximately 70-80 pandits surrounding the vehicle. The sheriff’s vehicle was able to back away from the crowd and call for assistance. The large group then continued east on 170th street picking up rocks and debris and continued to throw these at the sheriff’s vehicle. After some time, pandit personnel were able to stop the group about ¼ to ½ of a mile from the property and after some time were able to walk them back to the pandit property. Law enforcement agencies staged close to the entrance of the property on 170th street to contain the group if they did come back onto the roadway. All units were able to go back into service at around 1000 hrs. Assistance was provided by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. No personnel were injured during this incident. Feste37 writes: This report is a disaster for the pundit program. I think the program should be shut down as it has obviously failed. To my knowledge, there has never been a riot like this in Fairfield. It's an acute embarrassment for the movement and terrible for town-university relations. mjackson74 writes: This seems like unusually violent behavior for a group of men who spend their days reciting the vedic texts and doing yagyas for world peace. Usually when bad behavior manifests amongst the TM ranks, the official Movement position is that the people were not on the program not doing the program correctly - wonder what type of training in yagya these boys had. . On Tue, 3/11/14, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com;
[FairfieldLife] Re: A sunny afternoon in God-forsaken Holland
Has anybody seen any of the TMers here freaking out about the pundit riot? I sure haven't. In fact, it seems like it's the TM critics who are freaking out--drunk with Schadenfreude, making post after post after post, unable to stop gloating. Some people on this forum seem to believe that one can only truly appreciate life if they personally (as butt-bouncers emeritus in the Fairfield domes) or as members of the group they identify with get the *credit* for it. A few of them seem to be freaking out lately, because it's become painfully obvious that the programs offered by the group they identify with can't even keep a bunch of holy pundit boys from rioting and trashing a police car.
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
My bet is that the plane experienced a sudden decompression, the pilot tried to turn around to get back to Kuala Lumpur, but the pilots both blacked out because they failed to put on face masks in time. The debris is far out in the South China Sea somewhere. That's my bet also. Except the pilots were turning the plane back after the decompression event (they should have donned the oxygen mask as first priority) so the plane could be in the Indian Ocean.
Re: [FairfieldLife] True Detective: epilogue
On 03/10/2014 10:41 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Speaking of Not Ready For Prime Time, I think you can safely skip a much-hyped and little-delivering new show combining the talents of Alfonso Cuaron and J.J. Abrams called Believe. I watched the pilot, and won't be bothering to follow up. Lame procedural about yet another kid with psychic powers being chased by bad people and protected by good people. BORING. I watched the Believe pilot last night and thought it was quite good. It will be at least interesting to see if they can keep up the momentum. If it is a procedural, where are the cops? For a gitty dark, dark but really good UK made indie movie check out the The Seasoning House. Definitely rated Not for Buck but it is available on Netflix WI for the Netflixers here.
[FairfieldLife] Cosmos a Spacetime Odyssey
Happy 2014. The best thing I can contribute this year is a recommendation for Neil Degrasse Tyson's excellent remake and updating of Carl Sagan's mind expanding series, Cosmos. You can see a repeat of the first show here:http://www.cosmosontv.com/ http://www.cosmosontv.com/ When I opted out of the Vedic perspective and its answers to profound human questions about existence, I felt a deep inner deflation at first. I had demoted myself from knower of reality to just another guy on the bozo bus with more questions than answers and not many prospects for regaining the heady buzz of the baselessly confident Maharishi mindset. The thrilling sense of wonder and awe as I contemplated concepts like unity consciousness and the home of all the laws of nature within my OWN awareness, Oh my! At first it seemed as if I would not be able to experience that wonderful endorphin dump of projecting my mind into concepts that stretched my mind that far again. Epistemological humility had brought my eyes from the heavens to the tops of my shoes. Then I came across Carl Sagan's Cosmos series and I was once again sent back to the same challenging buzz I had enjoyed so much, but from my current perspective, for much more solid reasons. It restored all that I had lost and pushed my mind even further because this perspective was not based on mythological novels or my own dubiously mystical experiences, but on the most profound edges of human knowledge and theories about our world and beyond. It was so moving for me I am delighted even by the memory of that experience. This new series picks up where the last left off scientifically with many new advances in our understanding of the cosmos added. There is a profound connection between Neil and Carl that I will not spoil but is in the first episode that shows how deeply adults can influence and inspire young people if we will take the time. I could grouse a bit about how the first part of the first series seems to go a bit over the top with its use of computer graphics over content. But the show more than redeemed itself in the end. I hope this gee wiz geek delight aspect is better balanced with more words over mind blowing images in future episodes. Especially since Neil is such a fantastic speaker, capable of not only being scientifically precise, but also able to inspire the kind of emotional reaction that Carl was so good at. His presentation of these ideas really does justice to their grandeur. His delight in the fundamental endeavor of the cosmos understanding itself through humans is as poetically moving as anything I have encountered in or outside religious perspectives on man. Like the facts of evolutionary theory, both religious and non religious people can equally share in the delight of this human achievement. No matter what you do with this information afterwards to put it into the context of your belief system, this is worthy input. I hope some of you enjoy it as thoroughly as I am.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A sunny afternoon in God-forsaken Holland
Only problem Turq, once you get on the other side you'll see all the time you wasted when you could have been meditating instead of drinking beer. The so-called laws of nature are very 'elastic' up to a point.then, chaos! The earth ruptures, wars start, etc. I get a kick out of some of your posts though! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
Though MMY was right in theory; in practice, the Devil is in the details. In order to get the kind of effects MMY wanted you'd need 'at least' 8000 *GuruDev's*, that is actually enlightened Beings to get the MMY effect! IMHO What you have in Fairfield is a bunch of broken human Beings much like the rest of humanity just struggling with THEIR own little problems, far from pure expressions of pure consciousness, better than nothing? of course! but bringing World Peace? Doubtful.. The number of enlightened Beings on this planet could fit under a small umbrella, CLutes, paraphrased.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Cosmos a Spacetime Odyssey
Hey Curtis. Good to hear from you. You’re such a good writer. Saw Cosmos the other night and totally loved it. Will watch them all. Highly recommend it to all. Rick From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:49 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Cosmos a Spacetime Odyssey Happy 2014. The best thing I can contribute this year is a recommendation for Neil Degrasse Tyson's excellent remake and updating of Carl Sagan's mind expanding series, Cosmos. You can see a repeat of the first show here:http://www.cosmosontv.com/ When I opted out of the Vedic perspective and its answers to profound human questions about existence, I felt a deep inner deflation at first. I had demoted myself from knower of reality to just another guy on the bozo bus with more questions than answers and not many prospects for regaining the heady buzz of the baselessly confident Maharishi mindset. The thrilling sense of wonder and awe as I contemplated concepts like unity consciousness and the home of all the laws of nature within my OWN awareness, Oh my! At first it seemed as if I would not be able to experience that wonderful endorphin dump of projecting my mind into concepts that stretched my mind that far again. Epistemological humility had brought my eyes from the heavens to the tops of my shoes. Then I came across Carl Sagan's Cosmos series and I was once again sent back to the same challenging buzz I had enjoyed so much, but from my current perspective, for much more solid reasons. It restored all that I had lost and pushed my mind even further because this perspective was not based on mythological novels or my own dubiously mystical experiences, but on the most profound edges of human knowledge and theories about our world and beyond. It was so moving for me I am delighted even by the memory of that experience. This new series picks up where the last left off scientifically with many new advances in our understanding of the cosmos added. There is a profound connection between Neil and Carl that I will not spoil but is in the first episode that shows how deeply adults can influence and inspire young people if we will take the time. I could grouse a bit about how the first part of the first series seems to go a bit over the top with its use of computer graphics over content. But the show more than redeemed itself in the end. I hope this gee wiz geek delight aspect is better balanced with more words over mind blowing images in future episodes. Especially since Neil is such a fantastic speaker, capable of not only being scientifically precise, but also able to inspire the kind of emotional reaction that Carl was so good at. His presentation of these ideas really does justice to their grandeur. His delight in the fundamental endeavor of the cosmos understanding itself through humans is as poetically moving as anything I have encountered in or outside religious perspectives on man. Like the facts of evolutionary theory, both religious and non religious people can equally share in the delight of this human achievement. No matter what you do with this information afterwards to put it into the context of your belief system, this is worthy input. I hope some of you enjoy it as thoroughly as I am.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Cosmos a Spacetime Odyssey
That is honestly a very thought provoking piece you have written, at least for me. I am gonna check this series out - thanks Curtis. On Wed, 3/12/14, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Cosmos a Spacetime Odyssey To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 4:49 PM Happy 2014. The best thing I can contribute this year is a recommendation for Neil Degrasse Tyson's excellent remake and updating of Carl Sagan's mind expanding series, Cosmos. You can see a repeat of the first show here:http://www.cosmosontv.com/ When I opted out of the Vedic perspective and its answers to profound human questions about existence, I felt a deep inner deflation at first. I had demoted myself from knower of reality to just another guy on the bozo bus with more questions than answers and not many prospects for regaining the heady buzz of the baselessly confident Maharishi mindset. The thrilling sense of wonder and awe as I contemplated concepts like unity consciousness and the home of all the laws of nature within my OWN awareness, Oh my! At first it seemed as if I would not be able to experience that wonderful endorphin dump of projecting my mind into concepts that stretched my mind that far again. Epistemological humility had brought my eyes from the heavens to the tops of my shoes. Then I came across Carl Sagan's Cosmos series and I was once again sent back to the same challenging buzz I had enjoyed so much, but from my current perspective, for much more solid reasons. It restored all that I had lost and pushed my mind even further because this perspective was not based on mythological novels or my own dubiously mystical experiences, but on the most profound edges of human knowledge and theories about our world and beyond. It was so moving for me I am delighted even by the memory of that experience. This new series picks up where the last left off scientifically with many new advances in our understanding of the cosmos added. There is a profound connection between Neil and Carl that I will not spoil but is in the first episode that shows how deeply adults can influence and inspire young people if we will take the time. I could grouse a bit about how the first part of the first series seems to go a bit over the top with its use of computer graphics over content. But the show more than redeemed itself in the end. I hope this gee wiz geek delight aspect is better balanced with more words over mind blowing images in future episodes. Especially since Neil is such a fantastic speaker, capable of not only being scientifically precise, but also able to inspire the kind of emotional reaction that Carl was so good at. His presentation of these ideas really does justice to their grandeur. His delight in the fundamental endeavor of the cosmos understanding itself through humans is as poetically moving as anything I have encountered in or outside religious perspectives on man. Like the facts of evolutionary theory, both religious and non religious people can equally share in the delight of this human achievement. No matter what you do with this information afterwards to put it into the context of your belief system, this is worthy input. I hope some of you enjoy it as thoroughly as I am.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cosmos a Spacetime Odyssey
Curtis lives! I was a bit disappointed -- seemed lite, but maybe they'll ramp up as they get the audience educated enough to be able to grok more data-per-time-bit. Edg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
I tend to agree with you. I was thinking too, how one of Marshy's key concepts was incorrect, in my opinion just made up bs, but it was really key to his getting people to believe TM was a superlative thing. And that is the idea that the human mind naturally goes towards great fields of enjoyment, of bliss, of happiness. The natural tendency of the mind is to go to a field of greater happiness, is what he said in various ways. Simple observation shows this just isn't true. If one is sitting in the sun at a cafe like Barry and an argument breaks out, will one ignore it, or will one's natural tendency be to see why that beautiful woman is raising hell at her boyfriend in public? When riding serenely down the highway and one comes upon a wreck, the slowdown of traffic is testament to the fact that people are drawn to stress, trauma and drama all the time. There are a million other examples of the natural tendency of the human mind to gravitate towards the opposite of happiness, the number of abused women on the planet, the number of wars and plethora of situations where humans continually abuse each other are probably the best examples. So Marshy's premise that we naturally and easily transcend DUE to that natural tendency of the mind going towards greater fields of happiness is not true. I think it happens because as beings of the Universe we have the ENTIRE range of experiences of awareness available to us and we can choose to do something, be something, experience something we call happiness, but its not because we naturally gravitate towards it. If that were the case, the planet would be filled with naturally happy people. On Wed, 3/12/14, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 4:55 PM Though MMY was right in theory; in practice, the Devil is in the details. In order to get the kind of effects MMY wanted you'd need 'at least' 8000 *GuruDev's*, that is actually enlightened Beings to get the MMY effect! IMHOWhat you have in Fairfield is a bunch of broken human Beings much like the rest of humanity just struggling with THEIR own little problems, far from pure expressions of pure consciousness, better than nothing? of course! but bringing World Peace? Doubtful..The number of enlightened Beings on this planet could fit under a small umbrella, CLutes, paraphrased.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
Guess I need new glasses, should be-*pundits*.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoga Sutra for Divine Hearing
You should see his video on how to end a song. His ideas are very creative. So far, I've learned the first part. There are four others that I'm still trying to learn. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote : Whoa! That guy seems to be a mahaaguru!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Cosmos a Spacetime Odyssey
Good to hear from you. I have the series, but I've been waiting for one of my family members to return from France so we can all watch it together. That should happen tonight. From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 5:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Cosmos a Spacetime Odyssey Happy 2014. The best thing I can contribute this year is a recommendation for Neil Degrasse Tyson's excellent remake and updating of Carl Sagan's mind expanding series, Cosmos. You can see a repeat of the first show here:http://www.cosmosontv.com/ When I opted out of the Vedic perspective and its answers to profound human questions about existence, I felt a deep inner deflation at first. I had demoted myself from knower of reality to just another guy on the bozo bus with more questions than answers and not many prospects for regaining the heady buzz of the baselessly confident Maharishi mindset. The thrilling sense of wonder and awe as I contemplated concepts like unity consciousness and the home of all the laws of nature within my OWN awareness, Oh my! At first it seemed as if I would not be able to experience that wonderful endorphin dump of projecting my mind into concepts that stretched my mind that far again. Epistemological humility had brought my eyes from the heavens to the tops of my shoes. Then I came across Carl Sagan's Cosmos series and I was once again sent back to the same challenging buzz I had enjoyed so much, but from my current perspective, for much more solid reasons. It restored all that I had lost and pushed my mind even further because this perspective was not based on mythological novels or my own dubiously mystical experiences, but on the most profound edges of human knowledge and theories about our world and beyond. It was so moving for me I am delighted even by the memory of that experience. This new series picks up where the last left off scientifically with many new advances in our understanding of the cosmos added. There is a profound connection between Neil and Carl that I will not spoil but is in the first episode that shows how deeply adults can influence and inspire young people if we will take the time. I could grouse a bit about how the first part of the first series seems to go a bit over the top with its use of computer graphics over content. But the show more than redeemed itself in the end. I hope this gee wiz geek delight aspect is better balanced with more words over mind blowing images in future episodes. Especially since Neil is such a fantastic speaker, capable of not only being scientifically precise, but also able to inspire the kind of emotional reaction that Carl was so good at. His presentation of these ideas really does justice to their grandeur. His delight in the fundamental endeavor of the cosmos understanding itself through humans is as poetically moving as anything I have encountered in or outside religious perspectives on man. Like the facts of evolutionary theory, both religious and non religious people can equally share in the delight of this human achievement. No matter what you do with this information afterwards to put it into the context of your belief system, this is worthy input. I hope some of you enjoy it as thoroughly as I am.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sci-fi = theology for moderns
S3, I liked the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey too. What do you think is the meaning of the scene in the end where Dave, the astronaut, ends in a museum-like room only to see himself get old and die?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
The 'Devil' in the details..below: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kNGnIKUdMI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kNGnIKUdMI
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
This is actually a pretty reasonable hypothesis, as it allows for the plane to fly, on autopilot or not, or glide some distance from the loss of contact point, if we assume it just did not fall straight down. We have no evidence for any scenario at the present time. Proof is in the waiting, if ever. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/11/2014 10:00 PM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: My bet is on the two Iranians using fake passports, one of whom was carrying a suitcase. My bet is that the plane experienced a sudden decompression, the pilot tried to turn around to get back to Kuala Lumpur, but the pilots both blacked out because they failed to put on face masks in time. The debris is far out in the South China Sea somewhere. It may take as long as a year for anything to wash up on shore.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rioting Pundits in Iowa
There is a long tradition of rioting in the Spring in Iowa. Why, all the youth in Iowa was rioting on all the college campuses in Iowa back in the late 1960's and the 1970's. Iowa youth and some adults too. Heck our Iowa youth did not just throw some stones and make noise they threw bricks and completely trashed commercial business windows in downtowns in Ames and Iowa City. You should have seen it when the agitation of spring moved our rioting from sit-ins, teach-ins, and the mass meetings -moved to occupying administrative offices and University buildings on the Pentacrest at the University of Iowa and then our masses turned to riot going over to trash the windows of the General Motors dealership and all those GM car windows of GM cars out on the sales lots that used to be the downtown of Iowa City where the big Marriott Hotel and parking garage now stand. “All we are saying is give peace a chance”! These pandits are in a fine tradition of civil disobedience in Iowa. The long and active working of the underground railroad and anti-slavery agitation in Iowa is of that spring riot tradition for equal rights. John Brown's assault in riot of civil disobedience on the Federal Arsenal at Harper's Ferry was mounted from IOWA, hosted by IOWANS and even with IOWA youth going along in riot with John Brown. Riot is not new to Iowa. Rioting is in the dirt of our Natural Laws and is very much part of what it is to be a Hawkeye. Our state motto is, “Our Liberties we Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain”. Quite frankly I am ready to put on a doty and charge the wire at the compound in sympathy with our world-peace-making-chanting pandit friends up in Vedic City. It is completely within the laws of nature of Iowa to riot. When the famous chief Blackhawk was once a young buck he came over to Iowa from Illinois with a band of like minded youthful warriors in the spring of one year and completely annihilated the Ioway Indians one day in riot. Obliterated the Ioway. But Iowa and our Laws of Nature here did not die that day. That spring day was youth throwing more than rocks and heck, that happened just a few miles west of Vedic City. I think we should all be sympathetic to the long progression of balancing equal rights for all that is Iowa and of what it means to be Iowan. These pandits are only the expression of who we are anyway and they can not help themselves in what is only natural here. Let us go kindly on them and even be helpful to them and their plight in Iowa. An Old Iowa Meditator, -Buck in the Dome (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then surrounded the marked patrol vehicle and threw rocks at the driver, threw rocks at the back window breaking the window, they attempted to break off the mirrors, kicked out a back light and were rocking the vehicle. There were approximately 70-80 pandits surrounding the vehicle. The sheriff’s vehicle was able to back away from the crowd and call for assistance. The large group then continued east on 170th street picking up rocks and debris and continued to throw these at the sheriff’s vehicle. After some time, pandit personnel were able to stop the group about ¼ to ½ of a mile from the property and after some time were able to walk them back to the pandit property. Law enforcement agencies staged close to the entrance of the property on 170th street to contain the group if they did come back onto the roadway. All units were able to go back into service at around 1000 hrs. Assistance was provided by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. No personnel were injured during this incident. Feste37
[FairfieldLife] The News
This morning, besides the endless speculation on flight 370, and what seems like waning interest in Ukraine, the news I was watching had a car jacking chase somewhere in Colorado, and an apartment building exploding in New York city which killed two people, and brought the train line that I ride on from time to time to a halt as the building was right next to the raised tracks in Manhattan. The mayor spoke. Hundreds of firemen. The fire is mostly out now. A five alarm fire. There was a five alarm fire in San Francisco yesterday too. Next disaster... Michael's speculation that M's 'the mind gravitates to happiness' is wrong has a certain merit. The mind seems to gravitate to unusual occurrences as well as pleasure, or feeling good. We are attracted to discontinuities in the average flow of life. And here on FFL we seem to be attracted to disrupting the potential happiness of those we disagree with. Makes one feel all warm and fuzzy inside, that we here are all so morally superior to whomever here is not on the side we have chosen to enumerate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
Why did the transponder stop transmitting? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/13/world/asia/malaysia-plane-transponder.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/13/world/asia/malaysia-plane-transponder.html My bet is that the plane experienced a sudden decompression, the pilot tried to turn around to get back to Kuala Lumpur, but the pilots both blacked out because they failed to put on face masks in time. The debris is far out in the South China Sea somewhere. That's my bet also. Except the pilots were turning the plane back after the decompression event (they should have donned the oxygen mask as first priority) so the plane could be in the Indian Ocean.
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
Transponder Options The fact that it happened at all is astonishing to John Nance, a broadcast aviation analyst and veteran pilot. It is hard to conceive of a situation in which a triple seven would lose all ability to have its transponder on and the crew would not find some way to communicate, he told CNN. Kit Darby, a long time pilot, said Tuesday it was not clear whether the transponder was turned off intentionally. A power failure would have turned off the main transponder and its backup, and the plane could have flown for more than an hour with such a power failure, the president of Aviation Information Resources told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. But Nance expressed doubt that that could have been the case. The electrical system aboard the plane is so robust and the transponder draws so little power that it would be one of the last pieces of equipment to go dark, even after a catastrophic event like an engine explosion or a breach of the cabin and rapid decompression, he said. I'm in a head-scratching mode, Nance said. The most likely probability is that a human hand turned that off. Then you get into the logic tree of who and why and there aren't that many channels in that tree. He added, This is beginning to look very, very much like a hijacking. A former Federal Aviation Administration safety inspector agreed. David Soucie, author of Why Planes Crash, cited the redundant electrical, charging, battery and communications systems on Boeing 777s. Much had to go wrong for the aircraft to lose its transponder and then to veer off course, he said, adding that it stands to reason that someone forced those pilots to take control of the aircraft and take it off course. Turning off a transponder requires a deliberative process, said Peter Goelz, former managing director of the National Transportation Safety Board. If someone did that in the cockpit, they were doing it to disguise the route of the plane, he told CNN. There might still be mechanical explanations on what was going on, but those mechanical explanations are narrowing quickly. As for the plane turning around, there is some questioning of the reliability of Malaysian radar systems. The military system that was used to speculate on a turn-around of the plane is only as sophisticated as that used 75 years ago in London during World War II. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Why did the transponder stop transmitting? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/13/world/asia/malaysia-plane-transponder.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/13/world/asia/malaysia-plane-transponder.html My bet is that the plane experienced a sudden decompression, the pilot tried to turn around to get back to Kuala Lumpur, but the pilots both blacked out because they failed to put on face masks in time. The debris is far out in the South China Sea somewhere. That's my bet also. Except the pilots were turning the plane back after the decompression event (they should have donned the oxygen mask as first priority) so the plane could be in the Indian Ocean.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
Are you deliberately misleading your readers or are you confused? ... that the human mind naturally goes towards great fields of enjoyment, of bliss, of happiness -- I'm pretty sure the point made in the teaching is that this tendency needs a technique to function, and it is brought out in the process of meditating...surely you've noticed it happen during meditation?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
If you're in Cosmic Consciousness or even Unity, I salute you!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
now that I don't do TM I am no longer confused On Wed, 3/12/14, demar...@yahoo.com demar...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 7:43 PM Are you deliberately misleading your readers or are you confused? ... that the human mind naturally goes towards great fields of enjoyment, of bliss, of happiness -- I'm pretty sure the point made in the teaching is that this tendency needs a technique to function, and it is brought out in the process of meditating...surely you've noticed it happen during meditation?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
The illustrative example, as I remember it, was of sitting reading a book when someone starts playing a beautiful melody on the piano in the next room--and your attention immediately leaves the book and goes to the music. I don't recall anything about this needing a technique to function. Are you deliberately misleading your readers or are you confused? ... that the human mind naturally goes towards great fields of enjoyment, of bliss, of happiness -- I'm pretty sure the point made in the teaching is that this tendency needs a technique to function, and it is brought out in the process of meditating...surely you've noticed it happen during meditation?
[FairfieldLife] Why the Pundits Rioted
The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
I think they probably want to get paid more money for their work as pundits.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
On 3/12/2014 10:43 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: It actually took some investigative work, checking into their backgrounds and current situations, to pretty much rule out the possibility of those two passengers being terrorists. Maybe check the stolen passport database, like most airports do, BEFORE the passengers board the flight. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why the Pundits Rioted
On 3/12/2014 3:34 PM, Rick Archer wrote: The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place. Maybe it's time to send all the pundit boys back to India and let the Americans do the chanting spells from now on. That's what I think.
[FairfieldLife] Well, Rtambharaa prajñaa and McGurk effect!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0 Does someone having Rtambharaa prajñaa hear that sound correctly, without the Shemp effect?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
On 3/12/2014 3:06 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: now that I don't do TM I am no longer confused That's probably because after you did TM for a few years, you got enlightened, and now you are not confused anymore. Good work!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
I shift in and out of GC - my cat is in Brahmin. On Wed, 3/12/14, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 7:58 PM If you're in Cosmic Consciousness or even Unity, I salute you!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why the Pundits Rioted
Sounds like a good man to me, and if true shows how utterly control freak the TMO leadership is and has always been On Wed, 3/12/14, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why the Pundits Rioted To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 8:34 PM The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
On 3/12/2014 2:43 PM, demar...@yahoo.com wrote: ...surely you've noticed it happen during meditation? It happens naturally to everyone, even if they don't meditate or have a technique. The healthy mind always goes to a field of greater happiness. It's not complicated.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
you always get things backward - it was in fact after I released my attachment to any sort of meditation that I became enlightened, which I already was anyway On Wed, 3/12/14, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 8:50 PM On 3/12/2014 3:06 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: now that I don't do TM I am no longer confused That's probably because after you did TM for a few years, you got enlightened, and now you are not confused anymore. Good work!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
On 3/12/2014 11:55 AM, wgm4u wrote: The number of enlightened Beings on this planet could fit under a small umbrella, CLutes, paraphrased. You are only going to get as much enlightenment as you are going to get. - A.J. Bahm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
Chinese satellite images taken on Sunday have been released showing three large objects floating in the South China Sea in the original search area for the plane.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/12/2014 11:55 AM, wgm4u wrote: The number of enlightened Beings on this planet could fit under a small umbrella, CLutes, paraphrased. You are only going to get as much enlightenment as you are going to get. - A.J. Bahm You already have as much as you are going to get. - Someone Else
[FairfieldLife] Re: A sunny afternoon in God-forsaken Holland
There's a difference between living *IN* the moment and living *FOR* the moment. Only one who is fully enlightened can appreciate living fully *in* the present moment, don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise; I think you know better.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sci-fi = theology for moderns
Yes, that last scene was chilling. Kubrick mentioned in an interview that in that final scene the character played by Keir Dullea is supposed to be in a zoo. The soundtrack was intended to suggest alien lifeforms shuffling by and watching their rare specimen in the same idle way we humans behave at one of our zoos. That passed me (and everyone else) by at the time. But I understand the aliens finally transformed our man into a higher life form and sent him back to Earth to be re-born as the Star Child to lead us on to our next stage of evolution. It was the same aliens who gave our apeman ancestors the nudge, of course. Arthur C. Clarke's novel Childhood's End has a similar theme - an alien race appearing over Earth to engineer humanity's future evolution - old-school humans don't recognize the new breed as being human anymore. That's how I like my aliens - totally other. Either very, very scary - Alien/Pitch Black - or completely beyond our ability to communicate with - 2001/Solaris. Barry wants humour in sci-fi. John Carpenter's Dark Star had black humour in spades.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
sorry - i probably don't know what i'm talking about
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sci-fi = theology for moderns
Forgot to mention in my reply (above) to your query about Dave seeing himself age and die: this was presumably an effective Kubrick touch to suggest to we viewers that our astronaut is learning to die to his old self - he won't need that where he's going. Kubrick himself never liked having to explain any of the plot as a film stands or falls on its own merits.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, r...@searchsummit.com wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
Never happen - Girish and Company make too much money of of it - that has been the point for the Movement all along - not world peace On Wed, 3/12/14, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 9:34 PM The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, r...@searchsummit.com wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
Right, the pundit-project is long overdue and should be terminated which now hopefully will happen asap and as I predicted here years ago. What I'm wondering about is why the pundits protested in the first place. Were they ill treated ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rioting Pundits in Iowa
Iowans were born in nature to riot for spirituality and equality for equal access and the protection in Natural Law, that is also our history. In the lofty ultimate equity of rights of underlying in equal and fundamental rights of transcendentalism, the establishment and protection by guarantee of spiritual equal right as a bill of right is even why our people as pioneers and a larger modern transcendentalist meditating community presently like other historic communities in spirituality have come before to Iowa. Iowa has a long tradition of transcendent agitation for rights of equal access. These pundits are part of that riot for millenarian revolutionary establishment of equal spiritual rights, and access for claim and establishment of the universal inalienable right for all in our civil lives the transcendent Unified Field of life. We are only now just at the barricades in what is a great cultural spiritual struggle with material ignorance. There is more spiritual riot to do. Transcendentalism is the progressive story of America and constant agitation and rioting on behalf of the unified field of equal rights is ultimately American, Iowan and human in nature. There is certainly a long tradition of spiritual rioting in the Spring in Iowa. Why, all the youth in Iowa was rioting on all the college campuses in Iowa back in the late 1960's and the 1970's. Iowa youth and some adults too. Heck our Iowa youth did not just throw some stones and make noise they threw bricks and completely trashed commercial business windows in downtowns in Ames and Iowa City. You should have seen it when the agitation of spring moved our rioting from sit-ins, teach-ins, and the mass meetings -moved to occupying administrative offices and University buildings on the Pentacrest at the University of Iowa and then our masses turned to riot going over to trash the windows of the General Motors dealership and all those GM car windows of GM cars out on the sales lots that used to be the downtown of Iowa City where the big Marriott Hotel and parking garage now stand. “All we are saying is give peace a chance”! These pandits are in a fine tradition of civil disobedience in Iowa. The long and active working of the underground railroad and anti-slavery agitation in Iowa is of that spring riot tradition for equal rights. John Brown's assault in riot of civil disobedience on the Federal Arsenal at Harper's Ferry was mounted from IOWA, hosted by IOWANS and even with IOWA youth going along in riot with John Brown. Riot is not new to Iowa. Rioting is in the dirt of our Natural Laws and is very much part of what it is to be a Hawkeye. Our state motto is, “Our Liberties we Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain”. Quite frankly I am ready to put on a doty and charge the wire at the compound in sympathy with our world-peace-making-chanting pandit friends up in Vedic City. It is completely within the laws of nature of Iowa to riot. When the famous chief Blackhawk was once a young buck he came over to Iowa from Illinois with a band of like minded youthful warriors in the spring of one year and completely annihilated the Ioway Indians one day in riot. Obliterated the Ioway. But Iowa and our Laws of Nature here did not die that day. That spring day was youth throwing more than rocks and heck, that happened just a few miles west of Vedic City. I think we should all be sympathetic to the long progression of balancing equal rights for all that is Iowa and of what it means to be Iowan. These pandits are only the expression of who we are anyway and they can not help themselves in what is only natural here. Let us go kindly on them and even be helpful to them and their plight in Iowa. An Old Iowa Meditator, -Buck in the Dome (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
One thing to consider, Alex, is unlike here in the USA, where, if one is upset, legal remedies are sought, in India, and many other countries (Mexico also comes to mind), the corruption is so endemic, people are far more likely to deal with their issues, directly, and messily, than even think to get law enforcement, or any other government agency involved. What looks like inappropriate behavior to us, is the status quo in their culture. I personally think someone in Vedic City fucked up royally, and they did not have brown skin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
Yes, this could be the endgame. In situations like this I'm not beyond wondering why those who believe in spiritualism (not me) couldn't arrange a séance and ask the medium to try and contact a lost loved one. If the medium makes contact that shows your loved one is dead, no? If she can't get in touch with a disembodied spirit there is still hope. A plane crash gives you a generous supply of possible messengers so could provide a nice test case for advocates or skeptics of such things.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
On 3/12/2014 12:13 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: If that were the case, the planet would be filled with naturally happy people. Following your logic, people everywhere would choose suffering over happiness. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
I can relate -- hey MJ, try out that TM, for one sesh, one of these years -- might be a lot different than what you remember... Sincerely, Doctor Dumbass, Shameless Shill For Transcendence ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : you always get things backward - it was in fact after I released my attachment to any sort of meditation that I became enlightened, which I already was anyway On Wed, 3/12/14, Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 8:50 PM On 3/12/2014 3:06 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: now that I don't do TM I am no longer confused That's probably because after you did TM for a few years, you got enlightened, and now you are not confused anymore. Good work!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
On 3/12/2014 3:38 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: I think they probably want to get paid more money for their work as pundits. Maybe I should go up there to get paid for chanting spells, I wonder how much they pay? Everyone knows that I can be very persistent at repeating phrases. Go figure. Buck: Would I get free room and board at the Raj, I wonder? What about my car parking - I would prefer a covered area nearby, if possible. Or, maybe I could rent a garage from somebody in Vedic City that lives near the pundit campus. Let me know - will travel.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rioting Pundits in Iowa
Give us Barabbas! On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 2:43 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Iowans were born in nature to riot for spirituality and equality for equal access and the protection in Natural Law, that is also our history. In the lofty ultimate equity of rights of underlying in equal and fundamental rights of transcendentalism, the establishment and protection by guarantee of spiritual equal right as a bill of right is even why our people as pioneers and a larger modern transcendentalist meditating community presently like other historic communities in spirituality have come before to Iowa. Iowa has a long tradition of transcendent agitation for rights of equal access. These pundits are part of that riot for millenarian revolutionary establishment of equal spiritual rights, and access for claim and establishment of the universal inalienable right for all in our civil lives the transcendent Unified Field of life. We are only now just at the barricades in what is a great cultural spiritual struggle with material ignorance. There is more spiritual riot to do. Transcendentalism is the progressive story of America and constant agitation and rioting on behalf of the unified field of equal rights is ultimately American, Iowan and human in nature. There is certainly a long tradition of spiritual rioting in the Spring in Iowa. Why, all the youth in Iowa was rioting on all the college campuses in Iowa back in the late 1960's and the 1970's. Iowa youth and some adults too. Heck our Iowa youth did not just throw some stones and make noise they threw bricks and completely trashed commercial business windows in downtowns in Ames and Iowa City. You should have seen it when the agitation of spring moved our rioting from sit-ins, teach-ins, and the mass meetings -moved to occupying administrative offices and University buildings on the Pentacrest at the University of Iowa and then our masses turned to riot going over to trash the windows of the General Motors dealership and all those GM car windows of GM cars out on the sales lots that used to be the downtown of Iowa City where the big Marriott Hotel and parking garage now stand. “All we are saying is give peace a chance”! These pandits are in a fine tradition of civil disobedience in Iowa. The long and active working of the underground railroad and anti-slavery agitation in Iowa is of that spring riot tradition for equal rights. John Brown's assault in riot of civil disobedience on the Federal Arsenal at Harper's Ferry was mounted from IOWA, hosted by IOWANS and even with IOWA youth going along in riot with John Brown. Riot is not new to Iowa. Rioting is in the dirt of our Natural Laws and is very much part of what it is to be a Hawkeye. Our state motto is, “Our Liberties we Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain”. Quite frankly I am ready to put on a doty and charge the wire at the compound in sympathy with our world-peace-making-chanting pandit friends up in Vedic City. It is completely within the laws of nature of Iowa to riot. When the famous chief Blackhawk was once a young buck he came over to Iowa from Illinois with a band of like minded youthful warriors in the spring of one year and completely annihilated the Ioway Indians one day in riot. Obliterated the Ioway. But Iowa and our Laws of Nature here did not die that day. That spring day was youth throwing more than rocks and heck, that happened just a few miles west of Vedic City. I think we should all be sympathetic to the long progression of balancing equal rights for all that is Iowa and of what it means to be Iowan. These pandits are only the expression of who we are anyway and they can not help themselves in what is only natural here. Let us go kindly on them and even be helpful to them and their plight in Iowa. An Old Iowa Meditator, -Buck in the Dome (3/11) UPDATE:BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large
[FairfieldLife] Disciplinary action expected after riot Today's FF Ledger
Disciplinary action expected after riot By ANDY HALLMAN | Mar 12, 2014 MAHARISHI VEDIC CITY - The administration at the pandit campus near Maharishi Vedic City believes disciplinary action will result from its review of the riot outside the campus Tuesday morning in which a group 70-80 pandits surrounded Jefferson County Sheriff Gregg Morton in his vehicle, broke a window and rocked the vehicle back and forth. Morton said the pandits broke out a taillight on his pickup and tried to break off the mirrors. He said he was able to escape and call for assistance, while the group of pandits continued to throw rocks at his vehicle. Morton was not injured in the altercation. Morton said no charges are expected to stem from the incident because he cannot identify the people who participated in the attack on his vehicle. Bill Goldstein, spokesman of the Global Country of World Peace that runs the pandit campus, said the administration is conducting a complete review of the incident and what actions to take in response. We need to find out what caused the situation, he said. I don't want to say now what that might be. We're going to consider what may be done, and it may indeed include disciplinary action. A pandit is a scholar of traditional Indian law, rituals and philosophy. About 500 pandits live at the pandit campus, and they spend much of their day meditating and reciting Sanskrit sounds. They believe their meditations and Sanskrit recitations contribute to a more peaceful world. All of the pandits are men and most of them are between the ages of 20 and 40. The incident began at about 6 a.m. when security personnel at the campus were preparing to send the head pandit, Vidya Shankar Mishra, back to India by taking him in a van to O'Hare International Airport in Chicago. Security personnel at the campus asked the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office for assistance because they believed removing Mishra could cause problems. Goldstein said Mishra was asked to leave the pandit campus because of an internal disciplinary matter. Goldstein said he did not want to elaborate on the reasons for Mishra's dismissal. The Ledger interviewed Mishra through a Hindi-speaking interpreter in early February. As head pandit, Mishra assumed responsibility for welcoming new pandits and for taking a leadership role in campus activities. Mishra had been at the pandit campus for about three years. He said it is not difficult for him to be away from India for so long because he has made so many good friends at the ashram. He described the other pandits as his brothers. Goldstein said the close bond between Mishra and the other pandits is a great feature of their relationship, but that it likely contributed to the extremely negative reaction some of the pandits had to learning Mishra was being removed from the campus. Some of the pandits have known each other for 10 years or more, going back to their childhoods in India when they began meditating and learning Vedic scriptures. They develop very strong relationships with one another, Goldstein said. For someone in a position of leadership, their allegiance is going to be even stronger. When we had to make the decision for [Mishra] to leave, his friends and colleagues didn't want to see him leave. Goldstein said that such strong ties between the pandits are good 99 percent of the time, but they weren't good Tuesday morning. In this particular case, it created the problem we had, he said. He's leaving them. They have close feelings for him, and they acted on it, inappropriately. The group of about 70-80 pandits knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th Street and started walking east on 170th Street, blocking the whole street. The sheriff's personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. That's when the group surrounded Morton's pickup and threw rocks at it. Goldstein said the pandits likely viewed Morton as partly responsible for removing their leader from the campus, which is why they attacked him in his vehicle. Goldstein said the decision to remove Mishra was not discussed publically with the other pandits, and that it's quite likely most of them found out about it Tuesday morning as Mishra was being loaded into the van. The van carrying Mishra was able to leave the campus despite the large number of pandits trying to stop it. However, Goldstein said the van turned around and brought Mishra back to the campus to calm the pandits and to discuss the incident with them. He said Mishra will remain on the campus during the review of the incident, but he does not know what will happen to Mishra after that. At about noon Tuesday, the administration at the campus called a meeting to discuss the incident. Maharishi Vedic City Mayor Bob Wynne and his wife, Maureen, were there. Goldstein said the mayor addressed the pandits and said he didn't understand what caused them to become violent toward a law enforcement officer. Wynne told
Re: [FairfieldLife] Disciplinary action expected after riot Today's FF Ledger
Morton couldn't identify because ... you know *they* all look alike. On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:34 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: Disciplinary action expected after riot By ANDY HALLMAN | Mar 12, 2014 MAHARISHI VEDIC CITY – The administration at the pandit campus near Maharishi Vedic City believes disciplinary action will result from its review of the riot outside the campus Tuesday morning in which a group 70-80 pandits surrounded Jefferson County Sheriff Gregg Morton in his vehicle, broke a window and rocked the vehicle back and forth. Morton said the pandits broke out a taillight on his pickup and tried to break off the mirrors. He said he was able to escape and call for assistance, while the group of pandits continued to throw rocks at his vehicle. Morton was not injured in the altercation. Morton said no charges are expected to stem from the incident because he cannot identify the people who participated in the attack on his vehicle. Bill Goldstein, spokesman of the Global Country of World Peace that runs the pandit campus, said the administration is conducting a complete review of the incident and what actions to take in response. “We need to find out what caused the situation,” he said. “I don’t want to say now what that might be. We’re going to consider what may be done, and it may indeed include disciplinary action.” A pandit is a scholar of traditional Indian law, rituals and philosophy. About 500 pandits live at the pandit campus, and they spend much of their day meditating and reciting Sanskrit sounds. They believe their meditations and Sanskrit recitations contribute to a more peaceful world. All of the pandits are men and most of them are between the ages of 20 and 40. The incident began at about 6 a.m. when security personnel at the campus were preparing to send the head pandit, Vidya Shankar Mishra, back to India by taking him in a van to O’Hare International Airport in Chicago. Security personnel at the campus asked the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office for assistance because they believed removing Mishra could cause problems. Goldstein said Mishra was asked to leave the pandit campus because of an internal disciplinary matter. Goldstein said he did not want to elaborate on the reasons for Mishra’s dismissal. The Ledger interviewed Mishra through a Hindi-speaking interpreter in early February. As head pandit, Mishra assumed responsibility for welcoming new pandits and for taking a leadership role in campus activities. Mishra had been at the pandit campus for about three years. He said it is not difficult for him to be away from India for so long because he has made so many good friends at the ashram. He described the other pandits as his “brothers.” Goldstein said the close bond between Mishra and the other pandits is a great feature of their relationship, but that it likely contributed to the extremely negative reaction some of the pandits had to learning Mishra was being removed from the campus. Some of the pandits have known each other for 10 years or more, going back to their childhoods in India when they began meditating and learning Vedic scriptures. “They develop very strong relationships with one another,” Goldstein said. “For someone in a position of leadership, their allegiance is going to be even stronger. When we had to make the decision for [Mishra] to leave, his friends and colleagues didn’t want to see him leave.” Goldstein said that such strong ties between the pandits are good 99 percent of the time, but they weren’t good Tuesday morning. “In this particular case, it created the problem we had,” he said. “He’s leaving them. They have close feelings for him, and they acted on it, inappropriately.” The group of about 70-80 pandits knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th Street and started walking east on 170th Street, blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. That’s when the group surrounded Morton’s pickup and threw rocks at it. Goldstein said the pandits likely viewed Morton as partly responsible for removing their leader from the campus, which is why they attacked him in his vehicle. Goldstein said the decision to remove Mishra was not discussed publically with the other pandits, and that it’s quite likely most of them found out about it Tuesday morning as Mishra was being loaded into the van. The van carrying Mishra was able to leave the campus despite the large number of pandits trying to stop it. However, Goldstein said the van turned around and brought Mishra back to the campus to calm the pandits and to discuss the incident with them. He said Mishra will remain on the campus during the review of the incident, but he does not know what will happen to Mishra after that. At about noon Tuesday, the administration at the campus called a meeting to discuss the incident. Maharishi Vedic City Mayor
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
Well absolutely, our pundits had dang well better be meditating if we've devoted all this resource to facilitate this program. This is a scientifically calculated and extremely large and high-minded project. We are a meditating community and those guys were brought here to supplement our numbers in the Meissner-like effect of communal meditating Fairfield. Anybody that does not want to meditate on a sponsored program like created in that particular program should be sent the heck home directly without honors. Go through and figure it out. This program is not just a ticket to escape in to America. It is a program to help with meditation in America and mediating peace in the world. If there are some rotten apples in the barrel throw them the fuck out before the whole barrel is ruined. That goes for any corrosive administration and administrators of the project too both here and in India. The TM Movement Trustees should get to it and be open about its own resolution for a change. Quick. -Buck Rick Archer writes: The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
On 3/12/2014 3:53 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: you always get things backward - it was in fact after I released my attachment to any sort of meditation that I became enlightened, which I already was anyway That's what I'm saying! So, you were already enlightened when you went north to work at the religious school, where you toiled through two cold winters, living alone inside a pod, meditating twice a day and flying inside a golden dome with twelve others men. Then, you quit the TM and the TMSP, returned home, released your attachment to any sort of meditation, and now you're just enlightened. Good work!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Puns Can Be Fun
Broken pencils are pointless. On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me! On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Why did Cleopatra always go around saying no? Because she was the queen of denial. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: What does a clock do when it's hungry? It goes back for seconds. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: When you get a bladder infection, urine trouble. On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: What do you call a dinosaur with an extensive vocabulary? A thesaurus. On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: How do you make holy water? Boil the hell out of it! On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: I didn't like my beard at first.Then it grew on me. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Energizer Bunny arrested. Charged with battery. On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Class trip to a Coca-Cola factory. I hope there's no pop quiz. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/8/2014 9:23 AM, Share Long wrote: if they had reservations, wouldn't that make them hesitate? Christopher Columbus discovered the New World in 1492. When he was standing on the beach exchanging gifts, one of the native inhabitants said: But, Chris, why do you call us Indians? Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's hyperbole exposed as Pandits riot.
On 3/12/2014 4:21 PM, demar...@yahoo.com wrote: sorry - i probably don't know what i'm talking about All you have to do is go in and then come out and radiate. It's not complicated.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
On 3/12/2014 4:34 PM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. That's what I'm saying! Or, why not just enroll all the pundit boys in courses at MUM; give them all scholarships; and offer them a work-study program? Admin could put them up at the Utopia Village. We know there are a lot of park-side trailers up there on campus, we saw them last night using Google Earth. That way, they could all graduate and get a good job when they get back to India. That's what I think.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
Maybe they were practicing Hinduism, God forbid! (Hey what happened to the dots?)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
Richard, If they can get a job here in the USA after graduation, why should they go back to India? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/12/2014 4:34 PM, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. That's what I'm saying! Or, why not just enroll all the pundit boys in courses at MUM; give them all scholarships; and offer them a work-study program? Admin could put them up at the Utopia Village. We know there are a lot of park-side trailers up there on campus, we saw them last night using Google Earth. That way, they could all graduate and get a good job when they get back to India. That's what I think.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sci-fi = theology for moderns
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : You really enjoy living in your head, huh? : Yes, and I keep it well fed with juicy morsels. Pure entertainment is all sci-fi is, except for the small minded, or desperate: Jesus! What do have against fiction? Nothing. Fiction is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.:-) “It is only a novel... or, in short, only some work in which the greatest powers of the mind are displayed, in which the most thorough knowledge of human nature, the happiest delineation of its varieties, the liveliest effusions of wit and humour, are conveyed to the world in the best-chosen language” ― Jane Austen, Northanger Abbey Also, instead of gaining your deepest insights from the silver screen: Cinema has been the dominant art form for a hundred years. Check out The Pervert's Guide to Cinema by Slavoj Zizek for a fun ride . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvuSpwIBUAI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvuSpwIBUAI
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
Richard,
[FairfieldLife] Re: A sunny afternoon in God-forsaken Holland
Your Big Daddy God likes you today - enjoy it! Enjoy his pat of sunshine on your little head, and the swell of confidence he instills in you, when you drink his beer, with your soft little hands. King Baby, ever triumphant - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It's strange. I live in a university town, but there are no riots happening. There are some folks, after all, who are trying to convince me that if riots *were* happening, it would be a sign of the rioters acting in accord with the Laws Of Nature. Not that the *lack* of evidence of the Laws Of Nature should be a surprise to someone living in the Netherlands. I mean, we've got legalized prostitution, abortion, and cannabis, and we've had the last one for over 30 years. We were one of the first countries on the planet to legalize same-sex marriage, and we even allow them steenkin' media pirates to get away with it without fear of prosecution. The whole damned country is one big cesspool of sin, so one could make a case for the Laws Of Nature not wanting to put in an appearance here. So what accounts for all the sunshine and the warm weather, sufficient that I can finally sit out on the patio at Bad Habits and work here -- without a coat, without gloves, and without a care? There must have been a serious fuckup deep in the gears that drive the Laws Of Nature. Me, I'm just grateful for the sunshine and the good beer and the good company, and don't feel any particular need to attribute these things to anything or anyone. They just happened, and I happened to be here to appreciate and enjoy them. What a relief. Some people on this forum seem to believe that one can only truly appreciate life if they personally (as butt-bouncers emeritus in the Fairfield domes) or as members of the group they identify with get the *credit* for it. A few of them seem to be freaking out lately, because it's become painfully obvious that the programs offered by the group they identify with can't even keep a bunch of holy pundit boys from rioting and trashing a police car. SO much easier to just assume that All Of This happens pretty much by accident, and that neither I nor any group I am part of (if I were part of any group) is in any way responsible for it happening. SO much less likely to inflate one's ego and sense of self-importance. I am just a puny human, enjoying the fruits of chance, and trying my best to enjoy them fully. I didn't create them, I didn't bring them into manifestation with the awesome power of my mind, as they've been told they can do with *their* minds by the group they identify with. That group has even told them that their minds, because they bounce on their butts twice a day, are something-X times more powerful than the minds of lesser spit non-butt-bouncers like myself. Hard to let go of that much imagined self-importance, I guess. Me, I'm not important at all. I'm just a guy enjoying a beer and rapping on the Internet while sitting in the sun. I somehow think I've got a better gig than the ones who consider themselves personally responsible for the fate of the world.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AIRPLANE BLUES
Well, at least someone dug far enough, to uncover the cover story.;-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : The no-brainer is uninformed speculation. It actually took some investigative work, checking into their backgrounds and current situations, to pretty much rule out the possibility of those two passengers being terrorists. Try looking at a news story or two. (...three, two, one, WHINE) But Judy... Doc, I agree with you on both counts. Someone is definitely withholding info. And the fake passports?! Is that not a no brainer?! My bet is on the two Iranians using fake passports, one of whom was carrying a suitcase. Also, with the hundreds of satellites above us, someone saw something, and isn't talking. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : It's what is known in journalismese as a Man bites dog story. I don't know about fun to solve; that sounds a little heartless when the lives of so many people--including relatives and friends--are involved. But the mystery certainly is compelling, and it makes no sense to suggest there's something wrong with that perspective. The latest NYTimes story is headlined, Malaysia Jet Changed Course at Time of Disappearance, Officials Say. Some officials, that is. As if there weren't enough confusion already, the reports are conflicting: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-jet.html http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-jet.html?hp Perspective? Sure, people across the globe are dropping like flies from heart attacks, road accidents, old age . . . but an aircraft vanishing without trace is a MYSTERY and mysteries are fun to solve! Think Amelia Earhart - we're still trying to work out what happened to her and she vanished in 1937.
