Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
We are all here to help one another, really. W When you think about it. And, it only takes a moment sometimes, to ask from inside, what can I do, right now. So, often we forget to ask. So, often we forget to be grateful. That is why "compassion" is the way, sometimes, when we tend to get too caught up in our heads. Remember when we can feel real compassion from the heart, this empowers thought, and an intention, based in compassion, and love, seems to always win it's mark. r.g., seattle, wa. usa. Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a strange thing butI feel very full of bliss right this second, for no explicit reason, but the end result of all the huge contradictions that we discuss here is a sort of innocence that transcends any of the players or concepts for me. The moral trepidation that I used to feel has been pulled off like a scab until a hardened scar of bliss remains. It's said that God doesn't count the experiences but the scars. Well my heart has so many scars that there is a bliss like a pulsating cancer now. I'm afraid that this wasn't the Master's intention and yet, it's how it has turned out. The laughing through the tears and the laughing until tears flow. This is life no? - Original Message - From: anonymousff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar the message is heavily encrypted and we the users are using a different private keys then the master intended.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Good for you Robert Gimbel! Exactly right: "We have the message; just have to get it out there...". I was just listening to MMY's press conf. of April 27th. Quite a marked difference from just a few months ago. It occurs to me that he must be enjoying himself immensely to see so many good results globally. Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -We could all try to be the Messiah in our own little and big ways. We have the message; just have to get it out there. Which is being done at a rate now, which with a few more little pushes, will be fulfilled. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
-Remember it's the thought that counts; am I acting in love, or am I acting in fear? If I am acting in fear, what am I afraid of? R,G, -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd put a comma after 'Everyday', Mister Right Brain --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyday people are veritably exploding with delight. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is like the invention of the electric light. It didn't take 30-40,000 Edisons to propagate the spread of electric light throughout the world. Once the world saw it as a true advance for mankind it spread very quickly from his laboratory in Menlo Park, NJ. Don't be afraid, the teaching of Maharishi is not going away. The sap is just growing into a different tree. Same sap, different Day. Or same saps, different spiel... :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lurkernomore20002000 wrote: What planet do you come from man? Robert Gimbel wrote: Venus, Dude! hmm, Men are from Mars... girlie-man from Venus!! Venus governs semen (potency) http://www.brihaspati.net/jyotish_lesson_5.htm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Vaj wrote: Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? Well, actually, two contradictory explanations explain why MMY doesn't chase after expatriate Indians. One is the explanation you imply, Vaj - that they'll see the holes in his teaching. The other explanation is that MMY is restoring knowledge that's been corrupted, and that people who've built their lives around the old teaching are unlikely to embrace the new. To do so would be to admit their beliefs have been lies. Now, what I've just said is the party line, but I can't illustrate it with specific examples of teachings in classical Hinduism that Maharishi rejects. Is there such a case? By the way, the classic example of the second explanation is in Christ's career. He chased after Jews for two years before getting wise to the fact that they didn't want something new. Only when he ministered to an entirely new market, the gentiles, did his teaching take off. - Patrick Gillam --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 10, 2005, at 4:44 PM, Llundrub wrote: The irony is that Maharishi has 559 thousand Hindus or peeps of his own faith who he is letting down. It seems significant that Maharishi did not minister to the more knowledgeable émigré Indian community in London, but instead concentrated on Westerners, that probably could not tell a bogus yogi from a real one. -review of Call No Man Master Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? Bullshit. He did teach them. They were respectful but not that interested generally. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Then there's the US Hindu community. The tmo is, even now, endeavoring to contact all the wealthy members of this community and convince them to sponsor vedic pundits in India to do yagyas for them in perpetuity. It goes one way at one time, and the opposite at another. So it seems that these kinds of decisions are tactical and without an overriding strategy or ideology. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? Well, actually, two contradictory explanations explain why MMY doesn't chase after expatriate Indians. One is the explanation you imply, Vaj - that they'll see the holes in his teaching. The other explanation is that MMY is restoring knowledge that's been corrupted, and that people who've built their lives around the old teaching are unlikely to embrace the new. To do so would be to admit their beliefs have been lies. Now, what I've just said is the party line, but I can't illustrate it with specific examples of teachings in classical Hinduism that Maharishi rejects. Is there such a case? By the way, the classic example of the second explanation is in Christ's career. He chased after Jews for two years before getting wise to the fact that they didn't want something new. Only when he ministered to an entirely new market, the gentiles, did his teaching take off. - Patrick Gillam --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 10, 2005, at 4:44 PM, Llundrub wrote: The irony is that Maharishi has 559 thousand Hindus or peeps of his own faith who he is letting down. It seems significant that Maharishi did not minister to the more knowledgeable émigré Indian community in London, but instead concentrated on Westerners, that probably could not tell a bogus yogi from a real one. -review of Call No Man Master Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? Bullshit. He did teach them. They were respectful but not that interested generally. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
MMY used to come to Norway and lead summercourses in teh beginning of his Movement. The audience once asked him the question: Are you Messiah. The answer was Yes. Next question was: Why don't you tell people that you are Messiah. He answered: I do not want to be hanged in a tree. (The source is an old TM-Teacher that participated the Course). Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then there's the US Hindu community. The tmo is, even now, endeavoring to contact all the wealthy members of this community and convince them to sponsor vedic pundits in India to do yagyas for them in perpetuity. It goes one way at one time, and the opposite at another. So it seems that these kinds of decisions are tactical and without an overriding strategy or ideology. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? Well, actually, two contradictory explanations explain why MMY doesn't chase after expatriate Indians. One is the explanation you imply, Vaj - that they'll see the holes in his teaching. The other explanation is that MMY is restoring knowledge that's been corrupted, and that people who've built their lives around the old teaching are unlikely to embrace the new. To do so would be to admit their beliefs have been lies. Now, what I've just said is the party line, but I can't illustrate it with specific examples of teachings in classical Hinduism that Maharishi rejects. Is there such a case? By the way, the classic example of the second explanation is in Christ's career. He chased after Jews for two years before getting wise to the fact that they didn't want something new. Only when he ministered to an entirely new market, the gentiles, did his teaching take off. - Patrick Gillam --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 10, 2005, at 4:44 PM, Llundrub wrote: The irony is that Maharishi has 559 thousand Hindus or peeps of his own faith who he is letting down. It seems significant that Maharishi did not minister to the more knowledgeable émigré Indian community in London, but instead concentrated on Westerners, that probably could not tell a bogus yogi from a real one. -review of Call No Man Master Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? Bullshit. He did teach them. They were respectful but not that interested generally. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Thanks! beautiful story! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY used to come to Norway and lead summercourses in teh beginning of his Movement. The audience once asked him the question: Are you Messiah. The answer was Yes. Next question was: Why don't you tell people that you are Messiah. He answered: I do not want to be hanged in a tree. (The source is an old TM-Teacher that participated the Course). Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then there's the US Hindu community. The tmo is, even now, endeavoring to contact all the wealthy members of this community and convince them to sponsor vedic pundits in India to do yagyas for them in perpetuity. It goes one way at one time, and the opposite at another. So it seems that these kinds of decisions are tactical and without an overriding strategy or ideology. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? Well, actually, two contradictory explanations explain why MMY doesn't chase after expatriate Indians. One is the explanation you imply, Vaj - that they'll see the holes in his teaching. The other explanation is that MMY is restoring knowledge that's been corrupted, and that people who've built their lives around the old teaching are unlikely to embrace the new. To do so would be to admit their beliefs have been lies. Now, what I've just said is the party line, but I can't illustrate it with specific examples of teachings in classical Hinduism that Maharishi rejects. Is there such a case? By the way, the classic example of the second explanation is in Christ's career. He chased after Jews for two years before getting wise to the fact that they didn't want something new. Only when he ministered to an entirely new market, the gentiles, did his teaching take off. - Patrick Gillam --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 10, 2005, at 4:44 PM, Llundrub wrote: The irony is that Maharishi has 559 thousand Hindus or peeps of his own faith who he is letting down. It seems significant that Maharishi did not minister to the more knowledgeable émigré Indian community in London, but instead concentrated on Westerners, that probably could not tell a bogus yogi from a real one. -review of Call No Man Master Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? Bullshit. He did teach them. They were respectful but not that interested generally. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Hmm, I'd like to see that video tape. Oh, I really get it now. This messiach really is reaching out to Jews. Hence the money schemes. Brilliant. - Original Message - From: Ingegerd To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar MMY used to come to Norway and lead summercourses in teh beginning of his Movement. The audience once asked him the question: "Are you Messiah". The answer was "Yes". Next question was: "Why don't you tell people that you are Messiah". He answered: "I do not want to be hanged in a tree".(The source is an old TM-Teacher that participated the Course).Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then there's the US Hindu community. The tmo is, even now, endeavoring to contact all the wealthy members of this community and convince them to sponsor vedic pundits in India to do yagyas for them in perpetuity. It goes one way at one time, and the opposite at another. So it seems that these kinds of decisions are tactical and without an overriding strategy or ideology. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why?Well, actually, two contradictory explanations explain why MMY doesn't chase after expatriate Indians. One is the explanation you imply, Vaj - that they'll see the holes in his teaching. The other explanation is that MMY is restoring knowledge that's been corrupted, and that people who've built their lives around the "old" teaching are unlikely to embrace the new. To do so would be to admit their beliefs have been lies.Now, what I've just said is the party line, but I can't illustrate it with specific examples of teachings in classical Hinduism that Maharishi rejects. Is there such a case?By the way, the classic example of the second explanation is in Christ's career. He chased after Jews for two years before getting wise to the fact that they didn't want something new. Only when he ministered to an entirely new market, the gentiles, did his teaching take off.- Patrick Gillam --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On May 10, 2005, at 4:44 PM, Llundrub wrote: The irony is that Maharishi has 559 thousand Hindus or peeps of his own faith who he is letting down. "It seems significant that Maharishi did not minister to the more knowledgeable émigré Indian community in London, but instead concentrated on Westerners, that probably could not tell a bogusyogi from a real one." -review of "Call No Man Master" Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? Bullshit. He did teach them. They were respectful but not thatinterested generally.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--Good Day: Paridoxically, the answer to our ever increasing, high tech Need for National Security, may lie, in the ancient Vedas, of India; This is what The Maharishi Yogi, said today, in a world-wide internet broadcast.. (Destroy the Enemy, by Destroying the Enmity) Maharishi announced today, in a world-wide internet broadcast, that he is withdrawing his meditation movement, from Great Britain, being disappointed in the re-election of Tony Blair, saying he is not going to continue to support Britain's destructive policies, and give Nectar to the Dragon. Maharishi will move the advanced meditators from Britain, to two, three, or four countries, other countries, in the coming weeks, and will show the proven effects of meditation, to produce coherence in society, increased quality of life, creativity and peace. He said to notice the effect in Britain, of increasing chaos in the collective consciousness, as the meditators are withdrawn from the country. See: MOU.org/ Light of God Increasing in the World ~Live Internet Broadcast~ Wednesday, May 18th. @ 11:30am.EDT Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Link: http://www.globalcountry.org/EasyWeb.asp?pcpid=43 Email Questions: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --- - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is like the invention of the electric light. It didn't take 30-40,000 Edisons to propagate the spread of electric light throughout the world. Once the world saw it as a true advance for mankind it spread very quickly from his laboratory in Menlo Park, NJ. Don't be afraid, the teaching of Maharishi is not going away. The sap is just growing into a different tree. Same sap, different Day. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It must have been disappointing for MMY, that only a few hundred out of 30-40.000 TM-Teachers, participated on the recert. courses. Not much progression for the future. Big plans - few people. All his project is failing. Many years ago, MMY said repeatedly regarding other spiritual organisations. If their teaching is not according to the Laws of Nature, they will not live for long. They will not have Natures support. Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recertified UK teachers, I gather, are seemingly taking it in their stride (very English this!)and they sense that MORE of this kind of thing is likely to happen elsewhere, as MMY gradually shuts down his Movement. Posted TM News group: Maharishi does not want any new teaching activities or courses in UK at present. He spoke very compassionately to the newly trained Governors last week. One of the quotes was he did not want to continue feeding nectar to a snake ... felt that doing so would only strengthen the destructive tendencies of the country at present. He offered the recertified Governors the option of working on projects in other countries, but did not tell anyone to get out within two weeks. The Maharishi School is still operating, the Dome is open, life goes on. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
on 5/11/05 4:56 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recertified UK teachers, I gather, are seemingly taking it in their stride (very English this!)and they sense that MORE of this kind of thing is likely to happen elsewhere, as MMY gradually shuts down his Movement. Posted TM News group: Maharishi does not want any new teaching activities or courses in UK at present. He spoke very compassionately to the newly trained Governors last week. One of the quotes was he did not want to continue feeding nectar to a snake ... felt that doing so would only strengthen the destructive tendencies of the country at present. First time I ever heard M say that teaching TM to people would strengthen destructive tendencies. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Hi Rick, The benefit to the destructive tendencies is a temporary one, only because all of life is supported by the practice of TM. In times past, the destructive tendencies would not gain such a foothold, but now, as the current Dalai Lama says in his book, In My Own Words, when speaking about aggression and competitiveness, ...These mental processes easily translate into actions, breeding belligerence. Such processes have been going on in the human mind since time immemorial, but their execution has become more effective under modern conditions. This is what Maharishi is forestalling, the temporary lift that negative tendencies enjoy in a lively environment. Just as sattva can bind with rajas, so can tamas. Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/11/05 4:56 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recertified UK teachers, I gather, are seemingly taking it in their stride (very English this!)and they sense that MORE of this kind of thing is likely to happen elsewhere, as MMY gradually shuts down his Movement. Posted TM News group: Maharishi does not want any new teaching activities or courses in UK at present. He spoke very compassionately to the newly trained Governors last week. One of the quotes was he did not want to continue feeding nectar to a snake ... felt that doing so would only strengthen the destructive tendencies of the country at present. First time I ever heard M say that teaching TM to people would strengthen destructive tendencies. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Good for you Robert Gimbel! Exactly right: We have the message; just have to get it out there I was just listening to MMY's press conf. of April 27th. Quite a marked difference from just a few months ago. It occurs to me that he must be enjoying himself immensely to see so many good results globally. Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -We could all try to be the Messiah in our own little and big ways. We have the message; just have to get it out there. Which is being done at a rate now, which with a few more little pushes, will be fulfilled. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
I agree w k. here. There are too many Scorpions Need of a Nectar in FFlife and you are a juicy nectar for me bud. Watch out FFlife = Fear For your Life group. I think out of the 901, 821 are Scorpions. Rick we need more fresh blood. BaaahahahaaaWaa --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd best split FFlife now Rob, now! Save your innocence, before it's too late. I fear for ye. - Original Message - From: Robert Gimbel To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar -We could all try to be the Messiah in our own little and big ways. We have the message; just have to get it out there. Which is being done at a rate now, which with a few more little pushes, will be fulfilled. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4 questions that I would like answers for if MMY is the Messiah. (1) What does that make Guru Dev? (2) Does that equate the Sidhas with the 144,000 witnesses? (3) Jesus liked women, and surrounded himself with them, what happened since then (4) Messiah is a Jewish idea, so where is Israel in this? - Original Message - From: Ingegerd To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar MMY used to come to Norway and lead summercourses in teh beginning of his Movement. The audience once asked him the question: Are you Messiah. The answer was Yes. Next question was: Why don't you tell people that you are Messiah. He answered: I do not want to be hanged in a tree. (The source is an old TM-Teacher that participated the Course). Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then there's the US Hindu community. The tmo is, even now, endeavoring to contact all the wealthy members of this community and convince them to sponsor vedic pundits in India to do yagyas for them in perpetuity. It goes one way at one time, and the opposite at another. So it seems that these kinds of decisions are tactical and without an overriding strategy or ideology. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? Well, actually, two contradictory explanations explain why MMY doesn't chase after expatriate Indians. One is the explanation you imply, Vaj - that they'll see the holes in his teaching. The other explanation is that MMY is restoring knowledge that's been corrupted, and that people who've built their lives around the old teaching are unlikely to embrace the new. To do so would be to admit their beliefs have been lies. Now, what I've just said is the party line, but I can't illustrate it with specific examples of teachings in classical Hinduism that Maharishi rejects. Is there such a case? By the way, the classic example of the second explanation is in Christ's career. He chased after Jews for two years before getting wise to the fact that they didn't want something new. Only when he ministered to an entirely new market, the gentiles, did his teaching take off. - Patrick Gillam --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 10, 2005, at 4:44 PM, Llundrub wrote: The irony is that Maharishi has 559 thousand Hindus or peeps of his own faith who he is letting down. It seems significant that Maharishi did not minister to the more knowledgeable émigré Indian community in London, but instead concentrated on Westerners, that probably could not tell a bogus yogi from a real one. -review of Call No Man Master Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? Bullshit. He did teach them. They were respectful but not that interested generally. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Maharishi says whatever he pleases. Whenever it suits him. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar Sorry, I don't want to wear that (clown) suit. How would you answer your own question, please?Thanks,Jim--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: We have our first commentator unpon Maharishi. That was pretty good. However, it's also said that ligh and dark cannot co-exist and so raising sattva destroys tamas. Moreover, it's said that we are without the three gunas altogether in turiya, so how do these square pegs fit the round holes you molded?To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Everyday people are veritably exploding with delight. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar Good for you Robert Gimbel! Exactly right: "We have the message; just have to get it out there...". I was just listening to MMY's press conf. of April 27th. Quite a marked difference from just a few months ago. It occurs to me that he must be enjoying himself immensely to see so many good results globally.Jim--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -We could all try to be the Messiah in our own little and big ways. We have the message; just have to get it out there. Which is being done at a rate now, which with a few more little pushes, will be fulfilled. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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fwiw I totally agree. Enjoy your prog this pm! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi says whatever he pleases. Whenever it suits him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
the message is heavily encrypted and we the users are using a different private keys then the master intended. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good for you Robert Gimbel! Exactly right: We have the message; just have to get it out there I was just listening to MMY's press conf. of April 27th. Quite a marked difference from just a few months ago. It occurs to me that he must be enjoying himself immensely to see so many good results globally. Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -We could all try to be the Messiah in our own little and big ways. We have the message; just have to get it out there. Which is being done at a rate now, which with a few more little pushes, will be fulfilled. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I'd put a comma after 'Everyday', Mister Right Brain --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyday people are veritably exploding with delight. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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-We could all try to be the Messiah in our own little and big ways. We have the message; just have to get it out there. Which is being done at a rate now, which with a few more little pushes, will be fulfilled. Actually, I agree with this one hundred percent. Now, about that message, what was it again? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Thanks Bro. Peace to U 2. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar fwiw I totally agree. Enjoy your prog this pm!--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Maharishi says whatever he pleases. Whenever it suits him. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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I don't get this. Can you please explain? Thanks, Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the message is heavily encrypted and we the users are using a different private keys then the master intended. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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It's a strange thing butI feel very full of bliss right this second, for no explicit reason, but the end result of all the huge contradictions that we discuss here is a sort of innocence that transcends any of the players or concepts for me. The moral trepidation that I used to feel has been pulled off like a scab until a hardened scar of bliss remains. It's said that God doesn't count the experiences but the scars. Well my heart has so many scars that there is a bliss like a pulsating cancer now. I'm afraid that this wasn't the Master's intention and yet, it's how it has turned out. The laughing through the tears and the laughing until tears flow. This is life no? - Original Message - From: anonymousff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar the message is heavily encrypted and we the users are using a different private keys then the master intended.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Good for you Robert Gimbel! Exactly right: "We have the message; just have to get it out there...". I was just listening to MMY's press conf. of April 27th. Quite a marked difference from just a few months ago. It occurs to me that he must be enjoying himself immensely to see so many good results globally. Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -We could all try to be the Messiah in our own little and big ways. We have the message; just have to get it out there. Which is being done at a rate now, which with a few more little pushes, will be fulfilled. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Except they're everyday people where they are exploding. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar I'd put a comma after 'Everyday', "Mister Right Brain"--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Everyday people are veritably exploding with delight.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Got it. Thanks, Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except they're everyday people where they are exploding. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar I'd put a comma after 'Everyday', Mister Right Brain --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyday people are veritably exploding with delight. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' --- --- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/11/05 2:14 PM, johnlasher20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe he wants teachers to teeach TM independently since it must be obvious to him that the movement (which is what? independent of party line) won't last after he drops the body. So why wouldn't he say, Hey look. It's been fun, but I'm checking out soon. You all have my blessings to teach independently. Hasta la vista, baby. Then they would be doing what he told them rather than becoming independent. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Hi John, He is talking of Dharma. We all must do our part; what we came here to do, on a soul level. People in the northern part of India have their dharma to do. We here in this crazy land of ours have our's to do also.. Rob.johnlasher20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/11/05 2:14 PM, johnlasher20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Maybe he wants teachers to teeach TM independently since it must be obvious to him that the "movement" (which is what? independent of party line) won't last after he drops the body. So why wouldn't he say, "Hey look. It's been fun, but I'm checkingout soon. You all have my blessings to teach independently. Hasta la vista, baby."Then they would be doing what he told them rather than becomingindependent.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/11/05 4:56 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recertified UK teachers, I gather, are seemingly taking it in their stride (very English this!)and they sense that MORE of this kind of thing is likely to happen elsewhere, as MMY gradually shuts down his Movement. Posted TM News group: Maharishi does not want any new teaching activities or courses in UK at present. He spoke very compassionately to the newly trained Governors last week. One of the quotes was he did not want to continue feeding nectar to a snake ... felt that doing so would only strengthen the destructive tendencies of the country at present. First time I ever heard M say that teaching TM to people would strengthen destructive tendencies. MMY has clearly enunciated the principle that the unfoldment of enlightenment in this materialistic age must proceed slowly, because the increase of the light of awareness can create havoc in material life, causing the ignorant to be more destructive: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.html#light If you don't understand, well then you don't understand, but it's an easy to understand policy that MMY has said is the Divine Plan for restoring Vedic culture -- it's necessary that the progress of the TMO must proceed by fits and starts, however ridiculous that may look from the perspective of ordinary human reason. Withdrawing TM teachers from England is just part of the gradual policy of nature... Bob Brigante http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/11/05 2:14 PM, johnlasher20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe he wants teachers to teeach TM independently since it must be obvious to him that the movement (which is what? independent of party line) won't last after he drops the body. So why wouldn't he say, Hey look. It's been fun, but I'm checking out soon. You all have my blessings to teach independently. Hasta la vista, baby. Then they would be doing what he told them rather than becoming independent. Very good point, John (Although I don't think that's what 'he's' doing, that may be nature's intent... wait, what if there's no doer right up through the cosmic levelahhh) JohnY JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -We could all try to be the Messiah in our own little and big ways. We have the message; just have to get it out there. Which is being done at a rate now, which with a few more little pushes, will be fulfilled. What planet do you come from man? [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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She moved a long time ago to Boulder and is teaching at that New Age place there, can't recall the name just now, where Alan Ginsburg used to teach. Sal On May 9, 2005, at 10:23 PM, Llundrub wrote: Anyone know if Silvine is still there? Hard to imagine. She was the best teacher ever. That I ever ever had anywhere in my entire life.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
GIRL,8, IN 'WITCH TORTURE' - London. http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-13345717,00.html consciousness connection to the scorpions? nah. too weird. hmmm. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick - it's not just about one country, it's firstly the principle: logically this ban should apply to the US, the main villain in MMY's eyes, whose leader was re-elected with a larger mandate; Unlikely he'll cut off the US too much money which is all that counts. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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"Just over three-quarters of the UK population reported having a religion. More than seven out of ten people said that their religion was Christian (72 per cent). After Christianity, Islam was the most common faith with nearly 3 per cent describing their religion as Muslim (1.6 million). The next largest religious groups were Hindus (559 thousand), followed by Sikhs (336 thousand), Jews (267 thousand), Buddhists (152 thousand), and people from Other religions (179 thousand). These groups each accounted for less than 1 per cent and together accounted for a further 3 per cent of the UK population." http://www.britainusa.com/faq/showfaq.asp?SID=279 The irony is that Maharishi has 559 thousand Hindus or peeps of his own faith who he is letting down. Also Sikhs are part Hindu. At least one tribe of Israel comes from India. Much of GB is Wiccan or pagan. Who is Maharishi hurting? Who are the vipers? His whole thrust is based one one assumption, that a leader represents the collective consciousness of the people. But so what? It's all so dipsomaniac. - Original Message - From: johnlasher20002000 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Rick - it's not just about one country, it's firstly the principle: logically this "ban" should apply to the US, the main villain in MMY's eyes, whose leader was re-elected with a larger mandate; Unlikely he'll cut off the US too much money which is all that counts.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
On May 10, 2005, at 4:44 PM, Llundrub wrote: The irony is that Maharishi has 559 thousand Hindus or peeps of his own faith who he is letting down. It seems significant that Maharishi did not minister to the more knowledgeable émigré Indian community in London, but instead concentrated on Westerners, that probably could not tell a bogus yogi from a real one. -review of Call No Man Master Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 10, 2005, at 4:44 PM, Llundrub wrote: The irony is that Maharishi has 559 thousand Hindus or peeps of his own faith who he is letting down. It seems significant that Maharishi did not minister to the more knowledgeable émigré Indian community in London, but instead concentrated on Westerners, that probably could not tell a bogus yogi from a real one. -review of Call No Man Master Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? Because he's a fat, diabetic, money grubbing fraud? Or did you have something else in mind? ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 10, 2005, at 4:44 PM, Llundrub wrote: The irony is that Maharishi has 559 thousand Hindus or peeps of his own faith who he is letting down. It seems significant that Maharishi did not minister to the more knowledgeable émigré Indian community in London, but instead concentrated on Westerners, that probably could not tell a bogus yogi from a real one. -review of Call No Man Master Mahesh repeatedly refused to teach to the English Hindu community. Isn't it obvious why? Bullshit. He did teach them. They were respectful but not that interested generally. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
On May 10, 2005, at 5:44 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Because he's a fat, diabetic, money grubbing fraud? Or did you have something else in mind? ;-) Honestly, I didn't know he was overweight. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Because he's a fat, diabetic, money grubbing fraud? Or did you have something else in mind? ;-) Honestly, I didn't know he was overweight. Subtle. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip here it is, from my friend in the UK: snip M has shut down all TM teaching in the UK. He wasn't impressed that Tony Blair got back in at Thursdays election. So much negative influence here - teaching TM like feeding nectar to scorpions (I think I got that right - you get the idea). All teachers should go to other countries - India, Bulgaria and some other E European places. Group prog still allowed but no courses, initiating, checking etc. Hey! they won't have to pay the salaries so its not all bad. But don't scorpions need nectar? This is like saying you're only going to be compassionate to people who are nice to you! You bring the strongest light to bear in the darkest places, right? We should triple our efforts in the UK and the USA, not abandon them. MMY is such a coyote. -Peter scorpions do need, but why is it up us to provide them. as a business man why waste your money on unproductive situations. I'm not supporting what MMY is doing w UK but pointing that one can find arguments both ways. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, from any perspective it just don't make too good sense, huh. esp compassion - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip here it is, from my friend in the UK: snip M has shut down all TM teaching in the UK. He wasn't impressed that Tony Blair got back in at Thursdays election. So much negative influence here - teaching TM like feeding nectar to scorpions (I think I got that right - you get the idea). All teachers should go to other countries - India, Bulgaria and some other E European places. Group prog still allowed but no courses, initiating, checking etc. Hey! they won't have to pay the salaries so its not all bad. But don't scorpions need nectar? This is like saying you're only going to be compassionate to people who are nice to you! You bring the strongest light to bear in the darkest places, right? We should triple our efforts in the UK and the USA, not abandon them. MMY is such a coyote. -Peter snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Not sure that coyote is right. But MMY's decision about the UK sounds childish and spiteful, the sort of response one would expect not from a sage but from a petty dictator whose ego has been offended. Absurd really. I wish MMY wouldn't follow politics at all. It seems ridiculous to allow such day-to-day events on the surface of life to influence a grand cosmic plan for spiritual enlightenment. The wonder is that anyone takes any notice. I wish someone in England would say, I'm sorry, Maharishi, we love our country and we're going to carry on doing what we can do improve it. And it wasn't so long ago that King Nadar was sending out press releases, based on what MMY had said, applauding dictators like Castro and Mugabe. Mugabe! Blair is a saint compared to that guy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip here it is, from my friend in the UK: snip M has shut down all TM teaching in the UK. He wasn't impressed that Tony Blair got back in at Thursdays election. So much negative influence here - teaching TM like feeding nectar to scorpions (I think I got that right - you get the idea). All teachers should go to other countries - India, Bulgaria and some other E European places. Group prog still allowed but no courses, initiating, checking etc. Hey! they won't have to pay the salaries so its not all bad. But don't scorpions need nectar? This is like saying you're only going to be compassionate to people who are nice to you! You bring the strongest light to bear in the darkest places, right? We should triple our efforts in the UK and the USA, not abandon them. MMY is such a coyote. -Peter snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
I believe it is my wishful thinking that designates MMY as a coyote in the tradition of the American Indian, a trickster who stirs things up and causes all sorts of troubles. But I believe what really has happened is that MMY suffers from dementia: the irrational thought process, burts of irritation, forgetfulness. This is just his mind that is going and has nothing to do with his extraordinary level of Realization. We need to take care of him the way you'd treat a greatly loved grandfather who now calls you an asshole and tries to kick you at every chance because he's lost his mind. -Peter . --- feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure that coyote is right. But MMY's decision about the UK sounds childish and spiteful, the sort of response one would expect not from a sage but from a petty dictator whose ego has been offended. Absurd really. I wish MMY wouldn't follow politics at all. It seems ridiculous to allow such day-to-day events on the surface of life to influence a grand cosmic plan for spiritual enlightenment. The wonder is that anyone takes any notice. I wish someone in England would say, I'm sorry, Maharishi, we love our country and we're going to carry on doing what we can do improve it. And it wasn't so long ago that King Nadar was sending out press releases, based on what MMY had said, applauding dictators like Castro and Mugabe. Mugabe! Blair is a saint compared to that guy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip here it is, from my friend in the UK: snip M has shut down all TM teaching in the UK. He wasn't impressed that Tony Blair got back in at Thursdays election. So much negative influence here - teaching TM like feeding nectar to scorpions (I think I got that right - you get the idea). All teachers should go to other countries - India, Bulgaria and some other E European places. Group prog still allowed but no courses, initiating, checking etc. Hey! they won't have to pay the salaries so its not all bad. But don't scorpions need nectar? This is like saying you're only going to be compassionate to people who are nice to you! You bring the strongest light to bear in the darkest places, right? We should triple our efforts in the UK and the USA, not abandon them. MMY is such a coyote. -Peter snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Very clearly stated, lupidus108. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish someone in England would say, I'm sorry, Maharishi, we love our country and we're going to carry on doing what we can do improve it. The britons in particular are paying a heavy price indeed for occupying India. The karma they accumulated there, forcefully trying to eliminate the Vedic knowledge, will linger on for a long, long time. The karma for other violent and imperialistic countries will arrive in due time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
M has shut down all TM teaching in the UK. He wasn't impressed that Tony Blair got back in at Thursdays election. So much negative influence here - teaching TM like feeding nectar to scorpions (I think I got that right - you get the idea). All teachers should go to other countries - India, Bulgaria and some other E European places. Group prog still allowed but no courses, initiating, checking etc. Hey! they won't have to pay the salaries so its not all bad. But don't scorpions need nectar? This is like saying you're only going to be compassionate to people who are nice to you! You bring the strongest light to bear in the darkest places, right? In some sects of Buddhism, with its Boddhisattva vow, there are scriptures/myths/tales/legends/whatever that talk of enlightened beings who, given some mastery of the transition from death to rebirth, have gained some degree of control over where, and even whether, they are to be reborn. The tales have to do with weird Boddhi- sattvas who choose to be reborn in the Hell worlds, because the beings there need them the most. Unc/Barry To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMY punishing UK for Blair has nothing to do with the old British empire! Of course it has. Blair, along with Bush, is directly responsible for the slaughter of ten thousands of civilians in Iraq. In the same way as the britons collectively are responsible for the slaughters in India will this bear consequences sooner or later. As you sow, so shall you reap. There is no way escaping karma I'm afraid. And if anything, it was British scholars who revived Indian interest in their own Vedic culture! Dream on, but keep in mind that brainwashing from western universities is highly dangerous and a hazard to your mind. I wish someone in England would say, I'm sorry, Maharishi, we love our country and we're going to carry on doing what we can do improve it. The britons in particular are paying a heavy price indeed for occupying India. The karma they accumulated there, forcefully trying to eliminate the Vedic knowledge, will linger on for a long, long time. The karma for other violent and imperialistic countries will arrive in due time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Excellent! If I may, western university = mental chaos --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dream on, but keep in mind that brainwashing from western universities is highly dangerous and a hazard to your mind. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
I don't know if you're serious or not (no smiley face to help with the irony...) but I'll assume you are: --- Zdravko Baselli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, speaking such words about Maharishi, who gave you and others The highest knowledge in the universe, is very wrong, Wrong? Calling MMY a coyote? I assume that is what you are talking about. I'm referring to American Indian mythology that regarded the coyote as a trickster-helper that created all sorts of surface problems for people, but in the end always, ultimately, supported them. and it surely brings you very bad karma. No. that is just your own alogical thinking and irrational thought process. Piaget would say this type of thinking, which saturates the TMO, is preoperational. Do you avoid black cats and toss salt over your left shoulder when you spill it? You're attempting to regulate me because my post triggers feelings within you that you have not come to terms with. You are rational enough to recognize a level of madness within MMY, but are in denial about it. Thus your attempts to demonize and marginalize me. Don't shoot the messenger! Deal with your own crap. Don't throw it on me. He gave you The greatest gift someone can get in this life. Do you know that or do you believe that as a mindless catechism to ward off your own awareness of MMY's madness? Be awake for such a blessing which Maharishi has bestowed on you and on many, many others. MMY did not bestow anything. That is your juvenile, submissive fantasy of a conflicted father relationship. You're still trying to be the good boy to get your narcissistic dad's approval. Guess what, he'll never approve of you! You have to grow-up and leave him.and then he'll approve of you, once it's no longer needed. Irony of ironies. You think a master turns a slave into a master by giving him permission to be a master? Everyone on this list can only be forever thankful to Maharishi for Knowledge he has given us, which otherwise we would have to wait for thousands of lives. Are you a spiritual child? You're lost in a self-created land of big, bad adults who withhold their approval of you. So you seek to be good to gain their approval. Such submissive, immature whining. That part of you is disgusting. Wake up! Think, when again such an opportunity will come to us all? Of course. And I took full advantage of it. Don't you worry about my relationship with MMY. We're cool. You've got your own relationship with him to workout. Right now you appear to be bending over too much, yes? -Peter --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip here it is, from my friend in the UK: snip M has shut down all TM teaching in the UK. He wasn't impressed that Tony Blair got back in at Thursdays election. So much negative influence here - teaching TM like feeding nectar to scorpions (I think I got that right - you get the idea). All teachers should go to other countries - India, Bulgaria and some other E European places. Group prog still allowed but no courses, initiating, checking etc. Hey! they won't have to pay the salaries so its not all bad. But don't scorpions need nectar? This is like saying you're only going to be compassionate to people who are nice to you! You bring the strongest light to bear in the darkest places, right? We should triple our efforts in the UK and the USA, not abandon them. MMY is such a coyote. -Peter snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Gee, pretty soon we're all going to be talking about what a great time we had in the Middle Ages. I mean, life as a serf wasn't all that bad, you know. Three hots and a cot and all. --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent! If I may, western university = mental chaos --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dream on, but keep in mind that brainwashing from western universities is highly dangerous and a hazard to your mind. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Now that's a depressing thought! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gee, pretty soon we're all going to be talking about what a great time we had in the Middle Ages. I mean, life as a serf wasn't all that bad, you know. Three hots and a cot and all. --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent! If I may, western university = mental chaos --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dream on, but keep in mind that brainwashing from western universities is highly dangerous and a hazard to your mind. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
I read an article on 'the overworked American', and medieval serfs worked less hours and had more vacation time than the average American todayso much for progress! On May 9, 2005, at 4:51 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Gee, pretty soon we're all going to be talking about what a great time we had in the Middle Ages. I mean, life as a serf wasn't all that bad, you know. Three hots and a cot and all. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
It seems to me that the karma line of reasoning isn't very worthwhile. The Hindu tradition tells us that the course of karma is unfathomable. That implies to me that nothing definitive can ever be said about it, even amongst those who subscribe to the theory. To do moreso is to claim more knowledge than Krishna indicated was possible for a human. On the other hand, suppose that we could find an unmistakable connection between a country's wrongdoings in the past and Maharishi's cutting them out of Heaven on Earth and Sat Yuga. Why then would it make sense for Maharishi to include just about any country in the world? Think of the recent threads on FFL re the mass murders that have taken place by the Germans (during WWII), by Stalinist Russia, in the former Yugoslavia, in parts of Africa, etc. Why don't these countries get cut out of Heaven as well? Maharishi's platform has always been about amending the errors of the past, not about punishing the errors of the past. This Brit thing is entirely out of character with his lifetime platform, if not out of character with his private railings against the CIA etc. Maharishi's platform has always been about global enlightenment - we all rise together faster when we all participate. Cutting a whole country out of the good news isn't what he taught us. This is an entirely new aberration. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMY punishing UK for Blair has nothing to do with the old British empire! Of course it has. Blair, along with Bush, is directly responsible for the slaughter of ten thousands of civilians in Iraq. In the same way as the britons collectively are responsible for the slaughters in India will this bear consequences sooner or later. As you sow, so shall you reap. There is no way escaping karma I'm afraid. And if anything, it was British scholars who revived Indian interest in their own Vedic culture! Dream on, but keep in mind that brainwashing from western universities is highly dangerous and a hazard to your mind. I wish someone in England would say, I'm sorry, Maharishi, we love our country and we're going to carry on doing what we can do improve it. The britons in particular are paying a heavy price indeed for occupying India. The karma they accumulated there, forcefully trying to eliminate the Vedic knowledge, will linger on for a long, long time. The karma for other violent and imperialistic countries will arrive in due time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Pitty on you. You need very good psihyatric urgently. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if you're serious or not (no smiley face to help with the irony...) but I'll assume you are: --- Zdravko Baselli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, speaking such words about Maharishi, who gave you and others The highest knowledge in the universe, is very wrong, Wrong? Calling MMY a coyote? I assume that is what you are talking about. I'm referring to American Indian mythology that regarded the coyote as a trickster-helper that created all sorts of surface problems for people, but in the end always, ultimately, supported them. and it surely brings you very bad karma. No. that is just your own alogical thinking and irrational thought process. Piaget would say this type of thinking, which saturates the TMO, is preoperational. Do you avoid black cats and toss salt over your left shoulder when you spill it? You're attempting to regulate me because my post triggers feelings within you that you have not come to terms with. You are rational enough to recognize a level of madness within MMY, but are in denial about it. Thus your attempts to demonize and marginalize me. Don't shoot the messenger! Deal with your own crap. Don't throw it on me. He gave you The greatest gift someone can get in this life. Do you know that or do you believe that as a mindless catechism to ward off your own awareness of MMY's madness? Be awake for such a blessing which Maharishi has bestowed on you and on many, many others. MMY did not bestow anything. That is your juvenile, submissive fantasy of a conflicted father relationship. You're still trying to be the good boy to get your narcissistic dad's approval. Guess what, he'll never approve of you! You have to grow-up and leave him.and then he'll approve of you, once it's no longer needed. Irony of ironies. You think a master turns a slave into a master by giving him permission to be a master? Everyone on this list can only be forever thankful to Maharishi for Knowledge he has given us, which otherwise we would have to wait for thousands of lives. Are you a spiritual child? You're lost in a self-created land of big, bad adults who withhold their approval of you. So you seek to be good to gain their approval. Such submissive, immature whining. That part of you is disgusting. Wake up! Think, when again such an opportunity will come to us all? Of course. And I took full advantage of it. Don't you worry about my relationship with MMY. We're cool. You've got your own relationship with him to workout. Right now you appear to be bending over too much, yes? -Peter --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip here it is, from my friend in the UK: snip M has shut down all TM teaching in the UK. He wasn't impressed that Tony Blair got back in at Thursdays election. So much negative influence here - teaching TM like feeding nectar to scorpions (I think I got that right - you get the idea). All teachers should go to other countries - India, Bulgaria and some other E European places. Group prog still allowed but no courses, initiating, checking etc. Hey! they won't have to pay the salaries so its not all bad. But don't scorpions need nectar? This is like saying you're only going to be compassionate to people who are nice to you! You bring the strongest light to bear in the darkest places, right? We should triple our efforts in the UK and the USA, not abandon them. MMY is such a coyote. -Peter snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
As he has said, the world is his family. He will raise it with all of the love and wisdom with which any father aspires to raise his family. Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that the karma line of reasoning isn't very worthwhile. The Hindu tradition tells us that the course of karma is unfathomable. That implies to me that nothing definitive can ever be said about it, even amongst those who subscribe to the theory. To do moreso is to claim more knowledge than Krishna indicated was possible for a human. On the other hand, suppose that we could find an unmistakable connection between a country's wrongdoings in the past and Maharishi's cutting them out of Heaven on Earth and Sat Yuga. Why then would it make sense for Maharishi to include just about any country in the world? Think of the recent threads on FFL re the mass murders that have taken place by the Germans (during WWII), by Stalinist Russia, in the former Yugoslavia, in parts of Africa, etc. Why don't these countries get cut out of Heaven as well? Maharishi's platform has always been about amending the errors of the past, not about punishing the errors of the past. This Brit thing is entirely out of character with his lifetime platform, if not out of character with his private railings against the CIA etc. Maharishi's platform has always been about global enlightenment - we all rise together faster when we all participate. Cutting a whole country out of the good news isn't what he taught us. This is an entirely new aberration. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
On May 9, 2005, at 5:13 PM, anonymousff wrote: It seems to me that the karma line of reasoning isn't very worthwhile. The Hindu tradition tells us that the course of karma is unfathomable. That implies to me that nothing definitive can ever be said about it, even amongst those who subscribe to the theory. It is only certain aspects of karma that are unfathomable--dridha karma. A detailed description of karma is a lengthy and detailed subject but most present it in a rather superficial way. The Law of Karma can be simply stated as 'as you sow, so you shall reap'. Newton's third law of motion for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction also states the basic theme of karma, the doctrine of karman (action) and phala (fruit of action). Karmas are divided into four categories: a. Sanchita (lit. heaped together) which is the sum total of all past actions, known and unknown. b. Prarabdha karma (ready-to-be-experienced karmas) which is that piece of Sanchita karma that will be experienced by a person in THIS lifetime. It may simply appear as fate or destiny. A person will only experience those actions which ripen for a particular space and time. c. Kriyamana karma or current karmas is the potential effects of current actions. We can, by force of will, create new actions. We are not mere puppets of past actions. d. Agama karma or approaching karmas are actions you take based on insight into your own destiny. These karmas can be experienced at different levels of intensity. These are: 1. Dridha karma are karmas which are essentially fixed and we cannot change them. They can be pleasureable or non-pleasurable. These are events which just happen and we cannot do anything to change the outcome, despite our most strident efforts. 2. Dridha-Aridha karma are karmas that can be changed through spiritual practice or application of free will. 3. Aridha karma are results which are easily avoided or altered. Karma is generally difficult to fathom, esp. unknown karmas, simply because we view the world from the perspective of a finite mind. The Law of Karma was formulated from the perspective of an infinite mind capable of infinite correlation. After inventing the Law of Karma, God was able to retire. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Thats heavy Peter. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if you're serious or not (no smiley face to help with the irony...) but I'll assume you are: --- Zdravko Baselli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, speaking such words about Maharishi, who gave you and others The highest knowledge in the universe, is very wrong, Wrong? Calling MMY a coyote? I assume that is what you are talking about. I'm referring to American Indian mythology that regarded the coyote as a trickster-helper that created all sorts of surface problems for people, but in the end always, ultimately, supported them. and it surely brings you very bad karma. No. that is just your own alogical thinking and irrational thought process. Piaget would say this type of thinking, which saturates the TMO, is preoperational. Do you avoid black cats and toss salt over your left shoulder when you spill it? You're attempting to regulate me because my post triggers feelings within you that you have not come to terms with. You are rational enough to recognize a level of madness within MMY, but are in denial about it. Thus your attempts to demonize and marginalize me. Don't shoot the messenger! Deal with your own crap. Don't throw it on me. He gave you The greatest gift someone can get in this life. Do you know that or do you believe that as a mindless catechism to ward off your own awareness of MMY's madness? Be awake for such a blessing which Maharishi has bestowed on you and on many, many others. MMY did not bestow anything. That is your juvenile, submissive fantasy of a conflicted father relationship. You're still trying to be the good boy to get your narcissistic dad's approval. Guess what, he'll never approve of you! You have to grow-up and leave him.and then he'll approve of you, once it's no longer needed. Irony of ironies. You think a master turns a slave into a master by giving him permission to be a master? Everyone on this list can only be forever thankful to Maharishi for Knowledge he has given us, which otherwise we would have to wait for thousands of lives. Are you a spiritual child? You're lost in a self-created land of big, bad adults who withhold their approval of you. So you seek to be good to gain their approval. Such submissive, immature whining. That part of you is disgusting. Wake up! Think, when again such an opportunity will come to us all? Of course. And I took full advantage of it. Don't you worry about my relationship with MMY. We're cool. You've got your own relationship with him to workout. Right now you appear to be bending over too much, yes? -Peter --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip here it is, from my friend in the UK: snip M has shut down all TM teaching in the UK. He wasn't impressed that Tony Blair got back in at Thursdays election. So much negative influence here - teaching TM like feeding nectar to scorpions (I think I got that right - you get the idea). All teachers should go to other countries - India, Bulgaria and some other E European places. Group prog still allowed but no courses, initiating, checking etc. Hey! they won't have to pay the salaries so its not all bad. But don't scorpions need nectar? This is like saying you're only going to be compassionate to people who are nice to you! You bring the strongest light to bear in the darkest places, right? We should triple our efforts in the UK and the USA, not abandon them. MMY is such a coyote. -Peter snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
The assumption implicit in the thinking of some of the participants in this thread seems to be that allowing or disallowing TM to be taught in a country would make a whit of difference in that country's destiny. How many people are being taught in the UK now? What difference could it possibly make if that trickle were staunched? on 5/9/05 4:13 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that the karma line of reasoning isn't very worthwhile. The Hindu tradition tells us that the course of karma is unfathomable. That implies to me that nothing definitive can ever be said about it, even amongst those who subscribe to the theory. To do moreso is to claim more knowledge than Krishna indicated was possible for a human. On the other hand, suppose that we could find an unmistakable connection between a country's wrongdoings in the past and Maharishi's cutting them out of Heaven on Earth and Sat Yuga. Why then would it make sense for Maharishi to include just about any country in the world? Think of the recent threads on FFL re the mass murders that have taken place by the Germans (during WWII), by Stalinist Russia, in the former Yugoslavia, in parts of Africa, etc. Why don't these countries get cut out of Heaven as well? Maharishi's platform has always been about amending the errors of the past, not about punishing the errors of the past. This Brit thing is entirely out of character with his lifetime platform, if not out of character with his private railings against the CIA etc. Maharishi's platform has always been about global enlightenment - we all rise together faster when we all participate. Cutting a whole country out of the good news isn't what he taught us. This is an entirely new aberration. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Thats heavy Peter. I'll deconstruct it later, and bring you back up to love. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if you're serious or not (no smiley face to help with the irony...) but I'll assume you are: --- Zdravko Baselli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, speaking such words about Maharishi, who gave you and others The highest knowledge in the universe, is very wrong, Wrong? Calling MMY a coyote? I assume that is what you are talking about. I'm referring to American Indian mythology that regarded the coyote as a trickster-helper that created all sorts of surface problems for people, but in the end always, ultimately, supported them. and it surely brings you very bad karma. No. that is just your own alogical thinking and irrational thought process. Piaget would say this type of thinking, which saturates the TMO, is preoperational. Do you avoid black cats and toss salt over your left shoulder when you spill it? You're attempting to regulate me because my post triggers feelings within you that you have not come to terms with. You are rational enough to recognize a level of madness within MMY, but are in denial about it. Thus your attempts to demonize and marginalize me. Don't shoot the messenger! Deal with your own crap. Don't throw it on me. He gave you The greatest gift someone can get in this life. Do you know that or do you believe that as a mindless catechism to ward off your own awareness of MMY's madness? Be awake for such a blessing which Maharishi has bestowed on you and on many, many others. MMY did not bestow anything. That is your juvenile, submissive fantasy of a conflicted father relationship. You're still trying to be the good boy to get your narcissistic dad's approval. Guess what, he'll never approve of you! You have to grow-up and leave him.and then he'll approve of you, once it's no longer needed. Irony of ironies. You think a master turns a slave into a master by giving him permission to be a master? Everyone on this list can only be forever thankful to Maharishi for Knowledge he has given us, which otherwise we would have to wait for thousands of lives. Are you a spiritual child? You're lost in a self-created land of big, bad adults who withhold their approval of you. So you seek to be good to gain their approval. Such submissive, immature whining. That part of you is disgusting. Wake up! Think, when again such an opportunity will come to us all? Of course. And I took full advantage of it. Don't you worry about my relationship with MMY. We're cool. You've got your own relationship with him to workout. Right now you appear to be bending over too much, yes? -Peter --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip here it is, from my friend in the UK: snip M has shut down all TM teaching in the UK. He wasn't impressed that Tony Blair got back in at Thursdays election. So much negative influence here - teaching TM like feeding nectar to scorpions (I think I got that right - you get the idea). All teachers should go to other countries - India, Bulgaria and some other E European places. Group prog still allowed but no courses, initiating, checking etc. Hey! they won't have to pay the salaries so its not all bad. But don't scorpions need nectar? This is like saying you're only going to be compassionate to people who are nice to you! You bring the strongest light to bear in the darkest places, right? We should triple our efforts in the UK and the USA, not abandon them. MMY is such a coyote. -Peter snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
It seems to me that the karma line of reasoning isn't very worthwhile. The Hindu tradition tells us that the course of karma is unfathomable. That implies to me that nothing definitive can ever be said about it, even amongst those who subscribe to the theory. It is only certain aspects of karma that are unfathomable--dridha karma. Damn. Nicely said again, Vaj. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
on 5/9/05 4:20 PM, Zdravko Baselli at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pitty on you. You need very good psihyatric urgently. He is one (clinical psychologist) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Thanks for the discourse, vaj. If we take karma to be cause and effect, as in Newton's third law of motion for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction, then we could call western science a systematic study of karma insofar as it is visible to the senses and the instruments of measurement available to and believed in by materialist thinkers. In that case, we could say that the fact that you can get in a car and drive somewhere is due to some scientists having discovered some of the laws of karma, and some engineers learning to harness them. But, as you said, finite mind is going to have some trouble comprehending the innumerable inivisible connections that are posited by the Hindu theory of karma. Your discourse divides karma into categories that more or less relate to where the items of karma are on the waiting list, but say nothing about the ability to predict actual karmas or to make meaningful statements about how a particular punitive action by Maharishi relates to past actions of the country of England. So you didn't address my original comment that I thought the karma line of reasoning vis a vis Maharishi's recent Brit action is not very worthwhile. I have no quarrel with your presentation, though I admit to being an agnostic on the subject. My disagreement was with the fellow who invoked the karma concept to justify Maharishi's Brit action. a --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 9, 2005, at 5:13 PM, anonymousff wrote: It seems to me that the karma line of reasoning isn't very worthwhile. The Hindu tradition tells us that the course of karma is unfathomable. That implies to me that nothing definitive can ever be said about it, even amongst those who subscribe to the theory. It is only certain aspects of karma that are unfathomable-- dridha karma. A detailed description of karma is a lengthy and detailed subject but most present it in a rather superficial way. The Law of Karma can be simply stated as 'as you sow, so you shall reap'. Newton's third law of motion for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction also states the basic theme of karma, the doctrine of karman (action) and phala (fruit of action). Karmas are divided into four categories: a. Sanchita (lit. heaped together) which is the sum total of all past actions, known and unknown. b. Prarabdha karma (ready-to-be-experienced karmas) which is that piece of Sanchita karma that will be experienced by a person in THIS lifetime. It may simply appear as fate or destiny. A person will only experience those actions which ripen for a particular space and time. c. Kriyamana karma or current karmas is the potential effects of current actions. We can, by force of will, create new actions. We are not mere puppets of past actions. d. Agama karma or approaching karmas are actions you take based on insight into your own destiny. These karmas can be experienced at different levels of intensity. These are: 1. Dridha karma are karmas which are essentially fixed and we cannot change them. They can be pleasureable or non-pleasurable. These are events which just happen and we cannot do anything to change the outcome, despite our most strident efforts. 2. Dridha-Aridha karma are karmas that can be changed through spiritual practice or application of free will. 3. Aridha karma are results which are easily avoided or altered. Karma is generally difficult to fathom, esp. unknown karmas, simply because we view the world from the perspective of a finite mind. The Law of Karma was formulated from the perspective of an infinite mind capable of infinite correlation. After inventing the Law of Karma, God was able to retire. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The assumption implicit in the thinking of some of the participants in this thread seems to be that allowing or disallowing TM to be taught in a country would make a whit of difference in that country's destiny. Britain is a sinking ship. Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waveglub glub glub... How many people are being taught in the UK now? What difference could it possibly make if that trickle were staunched? They have avery good MSAE that has a good reputation and gets a lot of good press for such a small school. It will be a shame if Maharishi closes it. I suspect this whole thing is either a rumor or something Maharishi won't follow up on, and nothing will change. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Atomics aren't horrible as they're the key to the space industry which will in the future allow a bunch of more souls to incarnate in higher form without burdening this planet. If this wasn't the motivation for their development then so be it. How often do we do things for one reason and then do something else entirely. I came to New Orleans to go to law school but now I'm a chef. Maybe the law will be a good thing to have studied someday when I do my own business. My own prejudice -I wouldn't trust anyone on earth with possession of a nuke except the Buddha. I consider no one else so little polemical as to not have some desire to use one against someone else. Sometimes the way Maharishi is talking I'm thinking he's in league with the Al Qaeda or at least applauding them. He and Bin Laden would probably have a fine midday brunch together and the best of times and conversations. They both hate you and me. Ask yourself this, ifMaharishi controlled nukes wouldhe destroy them all or save a couple? Chagdud Tulku tells of a woman who said she died in a car crash and became enlightened. He asked her, do you still become angry? She said yes. He said that she was not enlightened then. When you are enlightened there is no more anger or desire. Or pride, envy, sloth. Enlightenment is removal of the obscurations of the mind. If they are still there then ones light is obscured. Simple. One who is extinguished is not berating everyone and beating his chest and pulling his beard. He is a space of peace from samsara, not more of it. If you can't clearly tell the difference between samsara and relativity and your guru then your guru is relativistic and samsaric. In which case, is there even a path to follow? How will one become liberated with such an example? I personally have had enough of new paths. All this pacing from Britain to Somewhere. Is anywhere really better than here, now? And can peace be had from anywhere other than from within? And how much can that cost? And for how much can that be sold? Is it impossible that someone with great spiritual sidhi can be wrong? It's much more likely that they'll be wrong when they set out to create a whole new teaching with no actual lineage to which they owe obeisance. In this whole world there is not one soul alive which Maharishi respects and to whom he would bow his head. The TMO walks alone. TMO started as one thing and now it's another. Who knows what it will be next. Atomics are not evil, and may be the means of great things someday. The TMO is not evil, and yet may be the source of great evil someday. Who can really predict the future? BTW is Sat Yuga still coming by Guru Purnima? Or did we fuck that up now too? My personal belief? Maharishi will drop the body this very year. Make your peace with him now. - Original Message - From: anonymousff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar It seems to me that the karma line of reasoning isn't very worthwhile. The Hindu tradition tells us that the course of karma is unfathomable. That implies to me that nothing definitive can ever be said about it, even amongst those who subscribe to the theory. To do moreso is to claim more knowledge than Krishna indicated was possible for a human.On the other hand, suppose that we could find an unmistakable connection between a country's wrongdoings in the past and Maharishi's cutting them out of Heaven on Earth and Sat Yuga. Why then would it make sense for Maharishi to include just about any country in the world? Think of the recent threads on FFL re the mass murders that have taken place by the Germans (during WWII), by Stalinist Russia, in the former Yugoslavia, in parts of Africa, etc. Why don't these countries get cut out of Heaven as well?Maharishi's platform has always been about amending the errors of the past, not about punishing the errors of the past. This Brit thing is entirely out of character with his lifetime platform, if not out of character with his private railings against the CIA etc.Maharishi's platform has always been about global enlightenment - we all rise together faster when we all participate. Cutting a whole country out of the good news isn't what he taught us. This is an entirely new aberration.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMY punishing UK for Blair has nothing to do with the old British empire! Of course it has. Blair, along with Bush, is directly responsible for the slaughter of ten thousands of civilians in Iraq. In the same way as the britons collectively are responsible for the slaughters in India will this bear consequences sooner or later. As yo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Then he needs two very good psychiatrists. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/9/05 4:20 PM, Zdravko Baselli at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pitty on you. You need very good psihyatric urgently. He is one (clinical psychologist) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Rick, I'm the author of the anon post below. I agree with you entirely. I hope that it didn't appear that I thought M's Brit pronouncement would make any difference. My goal was to show the originator of the British karma idea that it didn't hold much water. On the other hand, could make some difference to those in the UK who feel obliged now to move elsewhere. Also, to the children who were attending school in Skelmersdale. For these people, it could be quite a disruptive change. So Maharishi's pronouncements can have a significant human cost - to members of his own movement. Incidentally, I now recall a time when M did something similar. So I have to recant on my statement that this is an entirely new aberration. Some time ago (in the 90's, I believe), M proclaimed that the TMO had tried all that it could to uplift the consciousness of Wash DC and lower crime etc., but since the collective cness just wouldn't listen, then the TMO was going to respond by pulling out. He wanted all governors and sidhas to move elsewhere. Of course, only some did so. In the end, the tactic seemed to have no impact on Wash DC at all, though it did affect the morale of the DC meditator community. a --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The assumption implicit in the thinking of some of the participants in this thread seems to be that allowing or disallowing TM to be taught in a country would make a whit of difference in that country's destiny. How many people are being taught in the UK now? What difference could it possibly make if that trickle were staunched? on 5/9/05 4:13 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that the karma line of reasoning isn't very worthwhile. The Hindu tradition tells us that the course of karma is unfathomable. That implies to me that nothing definitive can ever be said about it, even amongst those who subscribe to the theory. To do moreso is to claim more knowledge than Krishna indicated was possible for a human. On the other hand, suppose that we could find an unmistakable connection between a country's wrongdoings in the past and Maharishi's cutting them out of Heaven on Earth and Sat Yuga. Why then would it make sense for Maharishi to include just about any country in the world? Think of the recent threads on FFL re the mass murders that have taken place by the Germans (during WWII), by Stalinist Russia, in the former Yugoslavia, in parts of Africa, etc. Why don't these countries get cut out of Heaven as well? Maharishi's platform has always been about amending the errors of the past, not about punishing the errors of the past. This Brit thing is entirely out of character with his lifetime platform, if not out of character with his private railings against the CIA etc. Maharishi's platform has always been about global enlightenment - we all rise together faster when we all participate. Cutting a whole country out of the good news isn't what he taught us. This is an entirely new aberration. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
In a message dated 5/9/05 2:00:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe it is my wishful thinking that designatesMMY as a coyote in the tradition of the AmericanIndian, a trickster who stirs things up and causes allsorts of troubles. But I believe what really hashappened is that MMY suffers from dementia: theirrational thought process, burts of irritation,forgetfulness. This is just his mind that is going andhas nothing to do with his extraordinary level ofRealization. We need to take care of him the way you'dtreat a greatly loved grandfather who now calls you anasshole and tries to kick you at every chance becausehe's lost his mind.-Peter Peter I think you hit the nail on the head here. Those that step back and separate themselves from the TMO can look at MMY objectively and see he is not the same Maharishi we all once knew and loved, personality wise, and we can say it. Those within the TMO can't say any thing unfavorable for fear of being left out of the "will" so to speak or just fired from the only lively hood they have probably ever had. I have to agree with your accessment of his mental state based upon what I see now and the Maharishi I remember. I can also agree that it is just the mind going, along with the body and what will remain is the enlightenment in the end. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Rick - it's not just about one country, it's firstly the principle: logically this ban should apply to the US, the main villain in MMY's eyes, whose leader was re-elected with a larger mandate; secondly it shouldn't apply to ANY country - he has gone on about how punishment in administration is a sign of FAILURE (in this case, HIS failure); also how can he justify punishing his own LOYAL FOLLOWERS - children in the Maharishi school, meditators needing checking etc; the fact that there aren't that many new initiations presently in the UK is irrelevant - neither are there in the US; and anyway to do this just at the RELAUNCH of the Movement, after teachers have paid considerable sums to be recertified is not only idiotic but actually unethical. I'm surprised people in FFL are taking it so lightly.. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The assumption implicit in the thinking of some of the participants in this thread seems to be that allowing or disallowing TM to be taught in a country would make a whit of difference in that country's destiny. How many people are being taught in the UK now? What difference could it possibly make if that trickle were staunched? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
So the only way Maharishi is *allowed* to change is in some way that you approve of? If he changes in a way that you don't like or cannot fathom, you ascribe senility to him? You should devote yourself to the lives of the enlightened some more please... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/9/05 2:00:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe it is my wishful thinking that designates MMY as a coyote in the tradition of the American Indian, a trickster who stirs things up and causes all sorts of troubles. But I believe what really has happened is that MMY suffers from dementia: the irrational thought process, burts of irritation, forgetfulness. This is just his mind that is going and has nothing to do with his extraordinary level of Realization. We need to take care of him the way you'd treat a greatly loved grandfather who now calls you an asshole and tries to kick you at every chance because he's lost his mind. -Peter Peter I think you hit the nail on the head here. Those that step back and separate themselves from the TMO can look at MMY objectively and see he is not the same Maharishi we all once knew and loved, personality wise, and we can say it. Those within the TMO can't say any thing unfavorable for fear of being left out of the will so to speak or just fired from the only lively hood they have probably ever had. I have to agree with your accessment of his mental state based upon what I see now and the Maharishi I remember. I can also agree that it is just the mind going, along with the body and what will remain is the enlightenment in the end. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I think the reason some people insist on hitting their heads against the wall is that it feels so good when they stop. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick - it's not just about one country, it's firstly the principle: logically this ban should apply to the US, the main villain in MMY's eyes, whose leader was re-elected with a larger mandate; secondly it shouldn't apply to ANY country - he has gone on about how punishment in administration is a sign of FAILURE (in this case, HIS failure); also how can he justify punishing his own LOYAL FOLLOWERS - children in the Maharishi school, meditators needing checking etc; the fact that there aren't that many new initiations presently in the UK is irrelevant - neither are there in the US; and anyway to do this just at the RELAUNCH of the Movement, after teachers have paid considerable sums to be recertified is not only idiotic but actually unethical. I'm surprised people in FFL are taking it so lightly.. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
You mean one for each personality? :) I thought Dr Pete's post was right on. Seems to have hit somewhat of a target within you, as well, judging by the response. Sal On May 9, 2005, at 4:51 PM, Zdravko Baselli wrote: Then he needs two very good psychiatrists.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Very wrong judging, Sal, your destiny will be good judging. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean one for each personality? :) I thought Dr Pete's post was right on. Seems to have hit somewhat of a target within you, as well, judging by the response. Sal On May 9, 2005, at 4:51 PM, Zdravko Baselli wrote: Then he needs two very good psychiatrists. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
on 5/9/05 5:39 PM, claudiouk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick - it's not just about one country, it's firstly the principle: logically this ban should apply to the US, the main villain in MMY's eyes, whose leader was re-elected with a larger mandate; secondly it shouldn't apply to ANY country - he has gone on about how punishment in administration is a sign of FAILURE (in this case, HIS failure); also how can he justify punishing his own LOYAL FOLLOWERS - children in the Maharishi school, meditators needing checking etc; the fact that there aren't that many new initiations presently in the UK is irrelevant - neither are there in the US; and anyway to do this just at the RELAUNCH of the Movement, after teachers have paid considerable sums to be recertified is not only idiotic but actually unethical. I'm surprised people in FFL are taking it so lightly.. Maybe we're getting jaded. Maybe the crazy announcements are coming so fast and furious it's hard to keep up with them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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. Zdravko Baselli wrote: Pitty on you. You need very good psihyatric urgently. ahem...you need spell checker urgently! ;-p To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
I wish someone in England would say, I'm sorry, Maharishi, we love our country and we're going to carry on doing what we can do improve it. The britons in particular are paying a heavy price indeed for occupying India. The karma they accumulated there, forcefully trying to eliminate the Vedic knowledge, will linger on for a long, long time. The karma for other violent and imperialistic countries will arrive in due time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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In a message dated 5/9/05 3:54:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gee, pretty soon we're all going to be talking aboutwhat a great time we had in the Middle Ages. I mean,life as a serf wasn't all that bad, you know. Threehots and a cot and all. Hey! I was burned at the stake for being a heretic. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
In a message dated 5/9/05 5:43:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the only way Maharishi is *allowed* to change is in some way that you approve of? If he changes in a way that you don't like or cannot fathom, you ascribe senility to him? You should devote yourself to the lives of the enlightened some more please... Sorry if I offend you, but age can do horrible things to the mind and body. Just remember he is neither. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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I am not offended, but you are not making sense to me, little *maharishi*. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/9/05 5:43:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the only way Maharishi is *allowed* to change is in some way that you approve of? If he changes in a way that you don't like or cannot fathom, you ascribe senility to him? You should devote yourself to the lives of the enlightened some more please... Sorry if I offend you, but age can do horrible things to the mind and body. Just remember he is neither. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/9/05 5:39 PM, claudiouk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick - it's not just about one country, it's firstly the principle: logically this ban should apply to the US, the main villain in MMY's eyes, whose leader was re-elected with a larger mandate; secondly it shouldn't apply to ANY country - he has gone on about how punishment in administration is a sign of FAILURE (in this case, HIS failure); also how can he justify punishing his own LOYAL FOLLOWERS - children in the Maharishi school, meditators needing checking etc; the fact that there aren't that many new initiations presently in the UK is irrelevant - neither are there in the US; and anyway to do this just at the RELAUNCH of the Movement, after teachers have paid considerable sums to be recertified is not only idiotic but actually unethical. I'm surprised people in FFL are taking it so lightly.. Maybe we're getting jaded. Maybe the crazy announcements are coming so fast and furious it's hard to keep up with them. Duh. ;-) L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
I think it's a language thing. You didn't know when I was referring to MMY as a coyote that I was not insulting him. And I assure you, a psychitrist would find me quite sane and quite rational. Anyone who uncritically follows MMY these days would certainly give a psychiatrist pause! -Peter --- Zdravko Baselli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pitty on you. You need very good psihyatric urgently. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if you're serious or not (no smiley face to help with the irony...) but I'll assume you are: --- Zdravko Baselli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, speaking such words about Maharishi, who gave you and others The highest knowledge in the universe, is very wrong, Wrong? Calling MMY a coyote? I assume that is what you are talking about. I'm referring to American Indian mythology that regarded the coyote as a trickster-helper that created all sorts of surface problems for people, but in the end always, ultimately, supported them. and it surely brings you very bad karma. No. that is just your own alogical thinking and irrational thought process. Piaget would say this type of thinking, which saturates the TMO, is preoperational. Do you avoid black cats and toss salt over your left shoulder when you spill it? You're attempting to regulate me because my post triggers feelings within you that you have not come to terms with. You are rational enough to recognize a level of madness within MMY, but are in denial about it. Thus your attempts to demonize and marginalize me. Don't shoot the messenger! Deal with your own crap. Don't throw it on me. He gave you The greatest gift someone can get in this life. Do you know that or do you believe that as a mindless catechism to ward off your own awareness of MMY's madness? Be awake for such a blessing which Maharishi has bestowed on you and on many, many others. MMY did not bestow anything. That is your juvenile, submissive fantasy of a conflicted father relationship. You're still trying to be the good boy to get your narcissistic dad's approval. Guess what, he'll never approve of you! You have to grow-up and leave him.and then he'll approve of you, once it's no longer needed. Irony of ironies. You think a master turns a slave into a master by giving him permission to be a master? Everyone on this list can only be forever thankful to Maharishi for Knowledge he has given us, which otherwise we would have to wait for thousands of lives. Are you a spiritual child? You're lost in a self-created land of big, bad adults who withhold their approval of you. So you seek to be good to gain their approval. Such submissive, immature whining. That part of you is disgusting. Wake up! Think, when again such an opportunity will come to us all? Of course. And I took full advantage of it. Don't you worry about my relationship with MMY. We're cool. You've got your own relationship with him to workout. Right now you appear to be bending over too much, yes? -Peter --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip here it is, from my friend in the UK: snip M has shut down all TM teaching in the UK. He wasn't impressed that Tony Blair got back in at Thursdays election. So much negative influence here - teaching TM like feeding nectar to scorpions (I think I got that right - you get the idea). All teachers should go to other countries - India, Bulgaria and some other E European places. Group prog still allowed but no courses, initiating, checking etc. Hey! they won't have to pay the salaries so its not all bad. But don't scorpions need nectar? This is like saying you're only going to be compassionate to people who are nice to you! You bring the strongest light to bear in the darkest places, right? We should triple our efforts in the UK and the USA, not abandon them. MMY is such a coyote. -Peter snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? === message truncated === __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail To subscribe, send
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that the karma line of reasoning isn't very worthwhile. The Hindu tradition tells us that the course of karma is unfathomable. That implies to me that nothing definitive can ever be said about it, even amongst those who subscribe to the theory. It is only certain aspects of karma that are unfathomable--dridha karma. Damn. Nicely said again, Vaj. Unc With all respects to deFouw and Svoboda I am sure. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I assure you, a psychitrist would find me quite sane and quite rational. I thought rationality was a bad thing. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/9/05 5:39 PM, claudiouk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick - it's not just about one country, it's firstly the principle: logically this ban should apply to the US, the main villain in MMY's eyes, whose leader was re-elected with a larger mandate; secondly it shouldn't apply to ANY country - he has gone on about how punishment in administration is a sign of FAILURE (in this case, HIS failure); also how can he justify punishing his own LOYAL FOLLOWERS - children in the Maharishi school, meditators needing checking etc; the fact that there aren't that many new initiations presently in the UK is irrelevant - neither are there in the US; and anyway to do this just at the RELAUNCH of the Movement, after teachers have paid considerable sums to be recertified is not only idiotic but actually unethical. I'm surprised people in FFL are taking it so lightly.. Maybe we're getting jaded. Maybe the crazy announcements are coming so fast and furious it's hard to keep up with them. I think there are 2 ways to look at this. First, some people will 'Obey MMY and leave England. Perhaps they think he knows something cosmic that they don't know - like an upcoming terrorist attack, or plague that will hit England. These people are adults and make their choices and probably feel good about themselves. Or, second, MMY is not going to go out quietly. He is going out with a bang, with crazy pronouncements, with outrageous requests for money, unyeilding expectations for obedience, disparaging comments about this loyal followers for all these years, condemnations of governments, outrageous stuff. Is he senile, enlightened, or both? The irrationality kind of makes it easy to to stay disengaged from it all, doesn't it. I just feel neutral amazement rather than the anger and disappointment I used to feel. I say again - we are in the midst of the makings of a movie. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/9/05 5:39 PM, claudiouk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick - it's not just about one country, it's firstly the principle: logically this ban should apply to the US, the main villain in MMY's eyes, whose leader was re-elected with a larger mandate; secondly it shouldn't apply to ANY country - he has gone on about how punishment in administration is a sign of FAILURE (in this case, HIS failure); also how can he justify punishing his own LOYAL FOLLOWERS - children in the Maharishi school, meditators needing checking etc; the fact that there aren't that many new initiations presently in the UK is irrelevant - neither are there in the US; and anyway to do this just at the RELAUNCH of the Movement, after teachers have paid considerable sums to be recertified is not only idiotic but actually unethical. I'm surprised people in FFL are taking it so lightly.. Maybe we're getting jaded. Maybe the crazy announcements are coming so fast and furious it's hard to keep up with them. I think there are 2 ways to look at this. First, some people will 'Obey MMY and leave England. Perhaps they think he knows something cosmic that they don't know - like an upcoming terrorist attack, or plague that will hit England. These people are adults and make their choices and probably feel good about themselves. Or, second, MMY is not going to go out quietly. He is going out with a bang, with crazy pronouncements, with outrageous requests for money, unyeilding expectations for obedience, disparaging comments about this loyal followers for all these years, condemnations of governments, outrageous stuff. Is he senile, enlightened, or both? The irrationality kind of makes it easy to to stay disengaged from it all, doesn't it. I just feel neutral amazement rather than the anger and disappointment I used to feel. I say again - we are in the midst of the makings of a movie. I told you that is David Lynch's alterior motive. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Yes someone is missing the boat and should be doing a reality show out of this for sure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/9/05 5:39 PM, claudiouk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick - it's not just about one country, it's firstly the principle: logically this ban should apply to the US, the main villain in MMY's eyes, whose leader was re-elected with a larger mandate; secondly it shouldn't apply to ANY country - he has gone on about how punishment in administration is a sign of FAILURE (in this case, HIS failure); also how can he justify punishing his own LOYAL FOLLOWERS - children in the Maharishi school, meditators needing checking etc; the fact that there aren't that many new initiations presently in the UK is irrelevant - neither are there in the US; and anyway to do this just at the RELAUNCH of the Movement, after teachers have paid considerable sums to be recertified is not only idiotic but actually unethical. I'm surprised people in FFL are taking it so lightly.. Maybe we're getting jaded. Maybe the crazy announcements are coming so fast and furious it's hard to keep up with them. I think there are 2 ways to look at this. First, some people will 'Obey MMY and leave England. Perhaps they think he knows something cosmic that they don't know - like an upcoming terrorist attack, or plague that will hit England. These people are adults and make their choices and probably feel good about themselves. Or, second, MMY is not going to go out quietly. He is going out with a bang, with crazy pronouncements, with outrageous requests for money, unyeilding expectations for obedience, disparaging comments about this loyal followers for all these years, condemnations of governments, outrageous stuff. Is he senile, enlightened, or both? The irrationality kind of makes it easy to to stay disengaged from it all, doesn't it. I just feel neutral amazement rather than the anger and disappointment I used to feel. I say again - we are in the midst of the makings of a movie. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
. anonymousff wrote: Maharishi's pronouncements can have a significant human cost - to members of his own movement... how do we know M is doing this to punish the British TMers for past karma? it could be that he sees a calamity coming, and want to rescue the TMers, by putting them out of harms way. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Give me a break. Have any of MMY predictions ever come true before name one! He is jus senile. What an outrageous thing to do almost as bad as trying to sell TM in the malls across America. What gets me is that people dont stand up to him and advise him becuase they know if they do they will be ousted out as the many before them. Anyone know what the Abrams are up to lately have not seen or heard from or of them. I know the Harris Kaplans Harris and Arlene are in Vlopdrop but dont know about Abrams. They are remotely related.Rhona is Lori Slusher sister and Lori is married to Arlenes sister Renee follow that? . anonymousff wrote: Maharishi's pronouncements can have a significant human cost - to members of his own movement... how do we know M is doing this to punish the British TMers for past karma? it could be that he sees a calamity coming, and want to rescue the TMers, by putting them out of harms way. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . anonymousff wrote: Maharishi's pronouncements can have a significant human cost - to members of his own movement... how do we know M is doing this to punish the British TMers for past karma? it could be that he sees a calamity coming, and want to rescue the TMers, by putting them out of harms way. Unlikely, based on previous eccentric unrealistic ideas. I mean, remember trying to close down the southern border of Canada? Or buying land in the middle of nowhere in Kansas to great pomp and ceremony, because it was the center of country. I still imagine some poor pundit wandering around the cornfields there, lost, while all the other TM'rs are long gone, and all thats left is a white picket fence for the Vastu of a palace that never got built. (Hey David Lynch, if your reading this...you can use that for the movie you're planning to make, but I want a CUT ! and to credit for that, and all the other ideas I have for the movie...you can e-mail me on the [EMAIL PROTECTED]) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Hey David Lynch, if your reading this...you can use that for the movie you're planning to make, but I want a CUT ! and to credit for that, and all the other ideas I have for the movie...you can e-mail me on the [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ah, you (feel that you) own your ideas. That always seems to be an interesting marker. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Little known facts department (or News of the Weird) It is a little known fact that the Literature department at MUM was required by Maharishi some time ago to stop teaching courses on English literature. To get around this, they have been teaching courses in European literature, including some from England, of course. It is not clear whether the faculty of the MUM Literature department have ever informed M that they were using this letter of the law (but not its spirit) approach to sidestep his instructions, or how he would react if he knew. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
I say again - we are in the midst of the makings of a movie.--None would believe the premse. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
I say again - we are in the midst of the makings of a movie. Llundrub wrote: --None would believe the premse. Yeah, but maybe Barry Wright could do a script that would make it zany enough to work. I thinkpeople would find MMY's craziness believable. What is hard to belive is all these educated, thoughtful, baby boomers actaully sticking withallthis for decades. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Anyone know if Silvine is still there? Hard to imagine. She was the best teacher ever. That I ever ever had anywhere in my entire life. - Original Message - From: anonymousff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 10:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar Little known facts department(or News of the Weird)It is a little known fact that the Literature department at MUM was required by Maharishi some time ago to stop teaching courses on English literature. To get around this, they have been teaching courses in European literature, including some from England, of course. It is not clear whether the faculty of the MUM Literature department have ever informed M that they were using this letter of the law (but not its spirit) approach to sidestep his instructions, or how he would react if he knew.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar on 5/9/05 10:23 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if Silvine is still there? Hard to imagine. She was the best teacher ever. That I ever ever had anywhere in my entire life. As I recall, (if Im remembering the right person) she got married, moved to Colorado (not necessarily in that order) and got into a different guru. I forget which one. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
on 5/9/05 10:23 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but maybe Barry Wright could do a script that would make it zany enough to work. I thinkpeople would find MMY's craziness believable. What is hard to belive is all these educated, thoughtful, baby boomers actaully sticking withallthis for decades. We did. It takes some major rethinking to break away. Many people prefer the relative comfort of remaining where they are. Also, things have grown zanier by degrees. What is that saying, death by a thousand cuts? You acquire a tolerance for zaniness. And there's a certain logic (SCI and all that) which makes sense, so you assume that the zany stuff must make sense too from some cosmic perspective that you just don't grok because you're too unenlightened. I've had people say just that to me. They've said, I've followed Maharishi this far and things have worked out pretty well for me. I don't understand why he says and does many things, but he's cosmic and I'm not, so I just have faith and try to stay attuned to his thinking. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar Cool, yeah looks like shes into Gangaji an nem. She rocked. I went to her wedding. It was so beautiful. It was in the chapel and she quoted Spenser and other great literature. She asked the whole audience to witness their vows. It was the most beautifully written wedding ever. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar on 5/9/05 10:23 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if Silvine is still there? Hard to imagine. She was the best teacher ever. That I ever ever had anywhere in my entire life. As I recall, (if Im remembering the right person) she got married, moved to Colorado (not necessarily in that order) and got into a different guru. I forget which one.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye bye Brits/Scorpions Need Nectar
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zdravko Baselli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then he needs two very good psychiatrists. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/9/05 4:20 PM, Zdravko Baselli at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pitty on you. You need very good psihyatric urgently. He is one (clinical psychologist) ZB, you got a sense of humor. That's a good start. Much more enjoyable to read than the fire and brimstone. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
