Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 When *fetus's* spontaneously abort, that is nature taking it's course. It is 
not the conscious decision of another person, the willful imposition of one 
life over another. One life is not consciously destroying another based upon 
their *feelings* or emotions at the time. There is no free will of one life 
dominating another.
 Adoption is always an option if precautions to prevent pregnancy failed.

 

 Goodness gracious, Mike. Think outside of your box! Not every unwanted 
pregnancy is the result of someone not bothering to put in their diaphragm or 
forgetting to take their birth control pills. Sometimes it is because, in an 
attempt to be merciful, the would-be mother realizes she can't care for or love 
her child. 
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I don't think the *soul entering a body* or how much pain or pleasure can be 
experienced is important. Nobody knows. What we do know is that there is *life* 
and it is *human life* by virtue of the DNA. There has to be life in order for 
cells to divide and multiply. It's not the mother's life nor the father's. It 
is *it's* own life.  

 

 Then, as far as you're concerned, just the fact that it is human life/cells 
then it is somehow sacred and any termination of that life mass is 'murder'? 
You know, in the case of the human body, or of any animal's body, when a 
pregnancy is going sideways, ie there is some major malfunction with the fetus, 
the body naturally terminates that pregnancy and the fetus is spontaneously 
aborted. This is nature's way of being merciful, IMHO. 
 

 Now, take that one step further and consider the life a newborn might be born 
into - starvation, abuse, lack of love, extreme poverty in a war-torn country 
or being born HIV positive to a drug-addicted parent. These are some ways in 
which external forces and conditions can make a baby's life a living hell. Is 
nature's "mercy" in terminating a malformed or diseased fetus any worse or 
better than a mother choosing to spare her offspring such a fate, such a 
"handicap", were it to be brought to term?
 

  I realize there are arguments to be made for the idea of evolution and how 
life is a way to evolve through hardship and suffering and that there is karma 
blah, blah, blah. But, sometimes people make choices to spare themselves and 
others a life that they don't feel is bearable and that is the plus and minus 
of having options to make a choice. That, too, the freedom to have choices, is 
about learning and growing and 'evolving'. Having said all this I still can 
respect someone's opinion that to abort a viable embryo might be doing 
something 'wrong' but I also think life is very, very complex and if we try and 
do the best we can then hopefully that makes up for something.
 

 When governments can define when innocent*life* has value, we're all up Schitz 
Creek.

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 8:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Kind of funny that when the woman that wrote the book about her affair with 
Maharishi said that when she asked Maharishi,"what if you get me pregnant?" 
Maharishi said "Get married , quickly"! As I recall, he would arrange 
something. I'm pretty certain that he never suggested an abortion. And he could 
have easily convinced her that there would be no problem.
 Maharishi knew that abortion was a hot topic in the states and to take a 
political stand against it could possibly piss- off a lot of devotees and 
potential devotees, especially since he attracted more that supported it than 
were against it.
 The important thing here is that nobody know at what time or point a fetus can 
support awareness but it seems to keep getting pushed back earlier and earlier.
 

 So, if the fetus is "aware" that is what makes it human or when the soul 
arrives to unite with the body? How about consciously aware? How about when you 
can distinguish all ten digits on the fetus and they can grasp something? How 
about when you can see its eye moving while in the womb? What about when it 
sucks its thumb? Who knows? No one. We're not even sure if there is such a 
thing as a soul or that human life is more valuable than any other life - at 
least I'm not convinced. (Blasphemy!)


 
 




































































































 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

When *fetus's* spontaneously abort, that is nature taking it's course. It is 
not the conscious decision of another person, the willful imposition of one 
life over another. One life is not consciously destroying another based upon 
their *feelings* or emotions at the time. There is no free will of one life 
dominating another.Adoption is always an option if precautions to prevent 
pregnancy failed.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I don't think the *soul entering a body* or how much pain or pleasure can be 
experienced is important. Nobody knows. What we do know is that there is *life* 
and it is *human life* by virtue of the DNA. There has to be life in order for 
cells to divide and multiply. It's not the mother's life nor the father's. It 
is *it's* own life.  

Then, as far as you're concerned, just the fact that it is human life/cells 
then it is somehow sacred and any termination of that life mass is 'murder'? 
You know, in the case of the human body, or of any animal's body, when a 
pregnancy is going sideways, ie there is some major malfunction with the fetus, 
the body naturally terminates that pregnancy and the fetus is spontaneously 
aborted. This is nature's way of being merciful, IMHO. 
Now, take that one step further and consider the life a newborn might be born 
into - starvation, abuse, lack of love, extreme poverty in a war-torn country 
or being born HIV positive to a drug-addicted parent. These are some ways in 
which external forces and conditions can make a baby's life a living hell. Is 
nature's "mercy" in terminating a malformed or diseased fetus any worse or 
better than a mother choosing to spare her offspring such a fate, such a 
"handicap", were it to be brought to term?
 I realize there are arguments to be made for the idea of evolution and how 
life is a way to evolve through hardship and suffering and that there is karma 
blah, blah, blah. But, sometimes people make choices to spare themselves and 
others a life that they don't feel is bearable and that is the plus and minus 
of having options to make a choice. That, too, the freedom to have choices, is 
about learning and growing and 'evolving'. Having said all this I still can 
respect someone's opinion that to abort a viable embryo might be doing 
something 'wrong' but I also think life is very, very complex and if we try and 
do the best we can then hopefully that makes up for something.
When governments can define when innocent*life* has value, we're all up Schitz 
Creek.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 8:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Kind of funny that when the woman that wrote the book about her affair with 
Maharishi said that when she asked Maharishi,"what if you get me pregnant?" 
Maharishi said "Get married , quickly"! As I recall, he would arrange 
something. I'm pretty certain that he never suggested an abortion. And he could 
have easily convinced her that there would be no problem.
Maharishi knew that abortion was a hot topic in the states and to take a 
political stand against it could possibly piss- off a lot of devotees and 
potential devotees, especially since he attracted more that supported it than 
were against it.The important thing here is that nobody know at what time or 
point a fetus can support awareness but it seems to keep getting pushed back 
earlier and earlier.
So, if the fetus is "aware" that is what makes it human or when the soul 
arrives to unite with the body? How about consciously aware? How about when you 
can distinguish all ten digits on the fetus and they can grasp something? How 
about when you can see its eye moving while in the womb? What about when it 
sucks its thumb? Who knows? No one. We're not even sure if there is such a 
thing as a soul or that human life is more valuable than any other life - at 
least I'm not convinced. (Blasphemy!)

 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I don't think the *soul entering a body* or how much pain or pleasure can be 
experienced is important. Nobody knows. What we do know is that there is *life* 
and it is *human life* by virtue of the DNA. There has to be life in order for 
cells to divide and multiply. It's not the mother's life nor the father's. It 
is *it's* own life.  

 

 Then, as far as you're concerned, just the fact that it is human life/cells 
then it is somehow sacred and any termination of that life mass is 'murder'? 
You know, in the case of the human body, or of any animal's body, when a 
pregnancy is going sideways, ie there is some major malfunction with the fetus, 
the body naturally terminates that pregnancy and the fetus is spontaneously 
aborted. This is nature's way of being merciful, IMHO. 
 

 Now, take that one step further and consider the life a newborn might be born 
into - starvation, abuse, lack of love, extreme poverty in a war-torn country 
or being born HIV positive to a drug-addicted parent. These are some ways in 
which external forces and conditions can make a baby's life a living hell. Is 
nature's "mercy" in terminating a malformed or diseased fetus any worse or 
better than a mother choosing to spare her offspring such a fate, such a 
"handicap", were it to be brought to term?
 

  I realize there are arguments to be made for the idea of evolution and how 
life is a way to evolve through hardship and suffering and that there is karma 
blah, blah, blah. But, sometimes people make choices to spare themselves and 
others a life that they don't feel is bearable and that is the plus and minus 
of having options to make a choice. That, too, the freedom to have choices, is 
about learning and growing and 'evolving'. Having said all this I still can 
respect someone's opinion that to abort a viable embryo might be doing 
something 'wrong' but I also think life is very, very complex and if we try and 
do the best we can then hopefully that makes up for something.
 

 When governments can define when innocent*life* has value, we're all up Schitz 
Creek.

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 8:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Kind of funny that when the woman that wrote the book about her affair with 
Maharishi said that when she asked Maharishi,"what if you get me pregnant?" 
Maharishi said "Get married , quickly"! As I recall, he would arrange 
something. I'm pretty certain that he never suggested an abortion. And he could 
have easily convinced her that there would be no problem.
 Maharishi knew that abortion was a hot topic in the states and to take a 
political stand against it could possibly piss- off a lot of devotees and 
potential devotees, especially since he attracted more that supported it than 
were against it.
 The important thing here is that nobody know at what time or point a fetus can 
support awareness but it seems to keep getting pushed back earlier and earlier.
 

 So, if the fetus is "aware" that is what makes it human or when the soul 
arrives to unite with the body? How about consciously aware? How about when you 
can distinguish all ten digits on the fetus and they can grasp something? How 
about when you can see its eye moving while in the womb? What about when it 
sucks its thumb? Who knows? No one. We're not even sure if there is such a 
thing as a soul or that human life is more valuable than any other life - at 
least I'm not convinced. (Blasphemy!)


 
 




































































































 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I don't think the *soul entering a body* or how much pain or pleasure can be 
experienced is important. Nobody knows. What we do know is that there is *life* 
and it is *human life* by virtue of the DNA. There has to be life in order for 
cells to divide and multiply. It's not the mother's life nor the father's. It 
is *it's* own life.  
When governments can define when innocent*life* has value, we're all up Schitz 
Creek.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 8:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Kind of funny that when the woman that wrote the book about her affair with 
Maharishi said that when she asked Maharishi,"what if you get me pregnant?" 
Maharishi said "Get married , quickly"! As I recall, he would arrange 
something. I'm pretty certain that he never suggested an abortion. And he could 
have easily convinced her that there would be no problem.
Maharishi knew that abortion was a hot topic in the states and to take a 
political stand against it could possibly piss- off a lot of devotees and 
potential devotees, especially since he attracted more that supported it than 
were against it.The important thing here is that nobody know at what time or 
point a fetus can support awareness but it seems to keep getting pushed back 
earlier and earlier.
So, if the fetus is "aware" that is what makes it human or when the soul 
arrives to unite with the body? How about consciously aware? How about when you 
can distinguish all ten digits on the fetus and they can grasp something? How 
about when you can see its eye moving while in the womb? What about when it 
sucks its thumb? Who knows? No one. We're not even sure if there is such a 
thing as a soul or that human life is more valuable than any other life - at 
least I'm not convinced. (Blasphemy!)

 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Kind of funny that when the woman that wrote the book about her affair with 
Maharishi said that when she asked Maharishi,"what if you get me pregnant?" 
Maharishi said "Get married , quickly"! As I recall, he would arrange 
something. I'm pretty certain that he never suggested an abortion. And he could 
have easily convinced her that there would be no problem.
 Maharishi knew that abortion was a hot topic in the states and to take a 
political stand against it could possibly piss- off a lot of devotees and 
potential devotees, especially since he attracted more that supported it than 
were against it.
 The important thing here is that nobody know at what time or point a fetus can 
support awareness but it seems to keep getting pushed back earlier and earlier.
 

 So, if the fetus is "aware" that is what makes it human or when the soul 
arrives to unite with the body? How about consciously aware? How about when you 
can distinguish all ten digits on the fetus and they can grasp something? How 
about when you can see its eye moving while in the womb? What about when it 
sucks its thumb? Who knows? No one. We're not even sure if there is such a 
thing as a soul or that human life is more valuable than any other life - at 
least I'm not convinced. (Blasphemy!)


 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Kind of funny that when the woman that wrote the book about her affair with 
Maharishi said that when she asked Maharishi,"what if you get me pregnant?" 
Maharishi said "Get married , quickly"! As I recall, he would arrange 
something. I'm pretty certain that he never suggested an abortion. And he could 
have easily convinced her that there would be no problem.
Maharishi knew that abortion was a hot topic in the states and to take a 
political stand against it could possibly piss- off a lot of devotees and 
potential devotees, especially since he attracted more that supported it than 
were against it.The important thing here is that nobody know at what time or 
point a fetus can support awareness but it seems to keep getting pushed back 
earlier and earlier.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 5:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    By e-mail to FFL,FW: I was trying to post this comment to the abortion 
thread: Just popping in on this conversation, not having followed the thread, 
but for what it’s worth, Maharishi used to say that the soul enters the body 
several months into the pregnancy. Prior to that, abortion is like “removing a 
wart” – his words. After that, it would have more serious implications. There’s 
a story at the beginning of the Mahabharata where a woman agrees to marry a 
king if he promises never to question anything she does. He agrees, and she 
ends up throwing the first 5 or 6 of her newborn children into a river. 
Finally, the king can’t stand it any more and objects, so that child lives. 
Turns out, the children were gods who had been cursed to take birth as human 
beings. They had worked out a plea deal in which their lives would be 
mercifully short. But the main offender was doomed to live an ordinary 
lifespan, so he was the one not thrown into the river.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.ma...@yahoo.com> wrote :

That's been a point of mine for awhile - that it's a decision, a very personal 
decision, that the woman makes.  It's not an easy one—not simply a cold, 
heartless, decision.  A hard decision.  A decision made as her hormones are 
ramping up to high levels and changing all the chemistry, let's remember.  No 
doubt there are spiritual and emotional consequences that have to be personally 
worked through. It's not one where the woman should be condemned and vilified 
and accused of *murder.*  Give me a break!  Fear leads to procrastination and 
procrastination can lead to death.  Most of the images shown are of 
"later-stage" (later than the 6 to 8 week optimal time) abortions, used to 
support the "pro-life" movement and rabid evangelists.  The earlier the better 
for all involved and my belief is, that if we "decriminalized" it as a society, 
women would be better off and wouldn't have to face the kind of shame and blame 
that can lead to death.  The best option is always to avoid pregnancy if not 
wanted, but that doesn't always happen in real life.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :

I guess early on the fetus is just a "tissue", and really, I am not sure what 
the term is when abortions are legal, but many of the images of abortions I 
have seen don't look like just a mass of "tissue".
I am not disputing a woman's right to choose, but it appears to often come with 
emotional turmoil.  A close associate of mine recently had an abortion.  It 
was, in my opinion the right decision and she felt good about it, but now, 
several months later, she is struggling a bit emotionally.
I would also have to say, that I don't think a fetus, from a spiritual 
perspective, is likely to have a "better luck next time" attitude about the 
whole event.  I believe there is a behind the scenes scenario that plays out 
whereby a soul prepares to reincarnate.  At what point that soul may enter, or 
take ownership of the fetus, I don't know.  Perhaps, if I had a better 
understanding of that more esoteric aspect of "it", I would have a better idea 
of what, if any, are the unseen implications of an abortion.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

Go ahead and stand on your soapbox, Mike.  Stand there all day if you like!  
It's time for me to get off mine. :)  Seems to me that the population of the 
planet is not suffering in the least from a woman's right to abortion!  
Yes, birth control, in the sense that the tissue is not be allowed to continue 
growing into a human being.  Her body, her decision.  Period.  The decision is 
made by the woman for the good of the woman and of the potential child.  That's 
the way I see it, hands down.  As a woman and the mother, she should retain the 
*right* to make that decision.    
I'm all for

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

uot; (later than the 6 to 8 week optimal time) abortions, used to 
support the "pro-life" movement and rabid evangelists.  The earlier the better 
for all involved and my belief is, that if we "decriminalized" it as a society, 
women would be better off and wouldn't have to face the kind of shame and blame 
that can lead to death.  The best option is always to avoid pregnancy if not 
wanted, but that doesn't always happen in real life.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :

 I guess early on the fetus is just a "tissue", and really, I am not sure what 
the term is when abortions are legal, but many of the images of abortions I 
have seen don't look like just a mass of "tissue". 

 I am not disputing a woman's right to choose, but it appears to often come 
with emotional turmoil.  A close associate of mine recently had an abortion.  
It was, in my opinion the right decision and she felt good about it, but now, 
several months later, she is struggling a bit emotionally.
 

 I would also have to say, that I don't think a fetus, from a spiritual 
perspective, is likely to have a "better luck next time" attitude about the 
whole event.  I believe there is a behind the scenes scenario that plays out 
whereby a soul prepares to reincarnate.  At what point that soul may enter, or 
take ownership of the fetus, I don't know.  Perhaps, if I had a better 
understanding of that more esoteric aspect of "it", I would have a better idea 
of what, if any, are the unseen implications of an abortion.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 Go ahead and stand on your soapbox, Mike.  Stand there all day if you like!  
It's time for me to get off mine. :)  Seems to me that the population of the 
planet is not suffering in the least from a woman's right to abortion!   

 Yes, birth control, in the sense that the tissue is not be allowed to continue 
growing into a human being.  Her body, her decision.  Period.  The decision is 
made by the woman for the good of the woman and of the potential child.  That's 
the way I see it, hands down.  As a woman and the mother, she should retain the 
*right* to make that decision.
 

 I'm all for birth control to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, make no mistake.  
 

 Maybe you'll be reincarnated as a woman next time around and will get the 
opportunity to be a mother too. 
 

 I don't know when the soul enters the body, so to speak.  I truly, deep in my 
heart, do not consider it a problem.  If there is a loving God/Creator spirit, 
I am perfectly comfortable with the idea that the soul returns to Source, no 
harm done.  
 

 There is no *blame* involved, Mike.  God, you sound judgmental!  Have a better 
day!  Thanks for the conversation.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well, at least you've admitted, though indirectly, that most abortions are 
birth control. Unacceptable. Too many ways to prevent it in the first place. In 
your mind, at what point does one become a sentient being? I think Nancy Pelosi 
says "not until *it* leaves the hospital.
 The blame rests with the person choosing to have the abortion, unless she's 
forced to have one.
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Long day Mike?  Of course the newborn can live on its own.  After all, it 
has been "born!"  If the babe is not cared for, it will die, but that's not 
what we're talking about here.  Most abortions occur before 8 weeks gestation - 
a collection of cells barely beginning to form into tissue.  "Murder" is the 
premeditated taking of a human being's life.  No human being there, Mike.  
Simply the potential - many things go wrong.   
 

 Ultimately, Mike, you blame the mother in all cases—whether she aborts in 
accordance with her free will and belief system and/or economic or married 
state—or, if she has the child, and finds herself unsupported in a myriad of 
ways and in need of help. You kick her and her child both, who you choose to 
legitimize as a child and revere only in the "unborn" state (kids are so much 
easier to deal with when unborn!) to the curb, and then sit on the sidelines 
and judge and mock and resent having any responsibility for as a member of our 
society and go even further and suggest she should get her tubes tied!   

 Incredible!!  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 You say that " there is no way to consider the termination of a being that can 
not live on it's own as murder.'
  Do you think the courts would find a mother guilty of murder if she took her 
new born child, who could not live on it's own, out into the desert and left it 
to die or

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

n the 
*right* to make that decision.
 

 I'm all for birth control to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, make no mistake.  
 

 Maybe you'll be reincarnated as a woman next time around and will get the 
opportunity to be a mother too. 
 

 I don't know when the soul enters the body, so to speak.  I truly, deep in my 
heart, do not consider it a problem.  If there is a loving God/Creator spirit, 
I am perfectly comfortable with the idea that the soul returns to Source, no 
harm done.  
 

 There is no *blame* involved, Mike.  God, you sound judgmental!  Have a better 
day!  Thanks for the conversation.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well, at least you've admitted, though indirectly, that most abortions are 
birth control. Unacceptable. Too many ways to prevent it in the first place. In 
your mind, at what point does one become a sentient being? I think Nancy Pelosi 
says "not until *it* leaves the hospital.
 The blame rests with the person choosing to have the abortion, unless she's 
forced to have one.
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Long day Mike?  Of course the newborn can live on its own.  After all, it 
has been "born!"  If the babe is not cared for, it will die, but that's not 
what we're talking about here.  Most abortions occur before 8 weeks gestation - 
a collection of cells barely beginning to form into tissue.  "Murder" is the 
premeditated taking of a human being's life.  No human being there, Mike.  
Simply the potential - many things go wrong.   
 

 Ultimately, Mike, you blame the mother in all cases—whether she aborts in 
accordance with her free will and belief system and/or economic or married 
state—or, if she has the child, and finds herself unsupported in a myriad of 
ways and in need of help. You kick her and her child both, who you choose to 
legitimize as a child and revere only in the "unborn" state (kids are so much 
easier to deal with when unborn!) to the curb, and then sit on the sidelines 
and judge and mock and resent having any responsibility for as a member of our 
society and go even further and suggest she should get her tubes tied!   

 Incredible!!  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 You say that " there is no way to consider the termination of a being that can 
not live on it's own as murder.'
  Do you think the courts would find a mother guilty of murder if she took her 
new born child, who could not live on it's own, out into the desert and left it 
to die or drowned it, knowing full well what she was doing?

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a being that cannot live on its own, "murder". It has never been so defined. 
Not in the courts, nor the holy books of any religion, including all of the 
sects of Christianity. It is NEVER called "murder". 
 

 This equation is a new fiction created by those who are attempting to impose 
their will on others. It is a weak and sleazy way to operate, and very cynical 
of humanity in general, as if in 2016 the average person cannot figure out what 
is best for them, unless someone misinterprets the Bible and starts calling 
abortion, "murder", to dishonestly game that issue. 
 

 So, calling abortion "murder", is based solely on imagination, without any 
basis in science or scripture. Fantasy. A very offensive way to operate when 
you seek to impose such a fantasy on others. These crazy thoughts equating 
abortion to murder are to be shared in a congregation perhaps, but they have no 
business whatsoever being expressed publicly, except as freedom of speech. 
Abortion as Murder? Absolute hogwash. Shame on you, and those who perpetuate 
such a ridiculous idea, seeking to impose it on others in the name of God. 
Blasphemy is all that is.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

ne.
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Long day Mike?  Of course the newborn can live on its own.  After all, it 
has been "born!"  If the babe is not cared for, it will die, but that's not 
what we're talking about here.  Most abortions occur before 8 weeks gestation - 
a collection of cells barely beginning to form into tissue.  "Murder" is the 
premeditated taking of a human being's life.  No human being there, Mike.  
Simply the potential - many things go wrong.   
 

 Ultimately, Mike, you blame the mother in all cases—whether she aborts in 
accordance with her free will and belief system and/or economic or married 
state—or, if she has the child, and finds herself unsupported in a myriad of 
ways and in need of help. You kick her and her child both, who you choose to 
legitimize as a child and revere only in the "unborn" state (kids are so much 
easier to deal with when unborn!) to the curb, and then sit on the sidelines 
and judge and mock and resent having any responsibility for as a member of our 
society and go even further and suggest she should get her tubes tied!   

 Incredible!!  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 You say that " there is no way to consider the termination of a being that can 
not live on it's own as murder.'
  Do you think the courts would find a mother guilty of murder if she took her 
new born child, who could not live on it's own, out into the desert and left it 
to die or drowned it, knowing full well what she was doing?

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a being that cannot live on its own, "murder". It has never been so defined. 
Not in the courts, nor the holy books of any religion, including all of the 
sects of Christianity. It is NEVER called "murder". 
 

 This equation is a new fiction created by those who are attempting to impose 
their will on others. It is a weak and sleazy way to operate, and very cynical 
of humanity in general, as if in 2016 the average person cannot figure out what 
is best for them, unless someone misinterprets the Bible and starts calling 
abortion, "murder", to dishonestly game that issue. 
 

 So, calling abortion "murder", is based solely on imagination, without any 
basis in science or scripture. Fantasy. A very offensive way to operate when 
you seek to impose such a fantasy on others. These crazy thoughts equating 
abortion to murder are to be shared in a congregation perhaps, but they have no 
business whatsoever being expressed publicly, except as freedom of speech. 
Abortion as Murder? Absolute hogwash. Shame on you, and those who perpetuate 
such a ridiculous idea, seeking to impose it on others in the name of God. 
Blasphemy is all that is.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identifica

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That's been a point of mine for awhile - that it's a decision, a very personal 
decision, that the woman makes.  It's not an easy one—not simply a cold, 
heartless, decision.  A hard decision.  A decision made as her hormones are 
ramping up to high levels and changing all the chemistry, let's remember.  No 
doubt there are spiritual and emotional consequences that have to be personally 
worked through. It's not one where the woman should be condemned and vilified 
and accused of *murder.*  Give me a break!  Fear leads to procrastination and 
procrastination can lead to death.  Most of the images shown are of 
"later-stage" (later than the 6 to 8 week optimal time) abortions, used to 
support the "pro-life" movement and rabid evangelists.  The earlier the better 
for all involved and my belief is, that if we "decriminalized" it as a society, 
women would be better off and wouldn't have to face the kind of shame and blame 
that can lead to death.  The best option is always to avoid pregnancy if not 
wanted, but that doesn't always happen in real life.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :

 I guess early on the fetus is just a "tissue", and really, I am not sure what 
the term is when abortions are legal, but many of the images of abortions I 
have seen don't look like just a mass of "tissue". 

 I am not disputing a woman's right to choose, but it appears to often come 
with emotional turmoil.  A close associate of mine recently had an abortion.  
It was, in my opinion the right decision and she felt good about it, but now, 
several months later, she is struggling a bit emotionally.
 

 I would also have to say, that I don't think a fetus, from a spiritual 
perspective, is likely to have a "better luck next time" attitude about the 
whole event.  I believe there is a behind the scenes scenario that plays out 
whereby a soul prepares to reincarnate.  At what point that soul may enter, or 
take ownership of the fetus, I don't know.  Perhaps, if I had a better 
understanding of that more esoteric aspect of "it", I would have a better idea 
of what, if any, are the unseen implications of an abortion.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 Go ahead and stand on your soapbox, Mike.  Stand there all day if you like!  
It's time for me to get off mine. :)  Seems to me that the population of the 
planet is not suffering in the least from a woman's right to abortion!   

 Yes, birth control, in the sense that the tissue is not be allowed to continue 
growing into a human being.  Her body, her decision.  Period.  The decision is 
made by the woman for the good of the woman and of the potential child.  That's 
the way I see it, hands down.  As a woman and the mother, she should retain the 
*right* to make that decision.
 

 I'm all for birth control to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, make no mistake.  
 

 Maybe you'll be reincarnated as a woman next time around and will get the 
opportunity to be a mother too. 
 

 I don't know when the soul enters the body, so to speak.  I truly, deep in my 
heart, do not consider it a problem.  If there is a loving God/Creator spirit, 
I am perfectly comfortable with the idea that the soul returns to Source, no 
harm done.  
 

 There is no *blame* involved, Mike.  God, you sound judgmental!  Have a better 
day!  Thanks for the conversation.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well, at least you've admitted, though indirectly, that most abortions are 
birth control. Unacceptable. Too many ways to prevent it in the first place. In 
your mind, at what point does one become a sentient being? I think Nancy Pelosi 
says "not until *it* leaves the hospital.
 The blame rests with the person choosing to have the abortion, unless she's 
forced to have one.
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Long day Mike?  Of course the newborn can live on its own.  After all, it 
has been "born!"  If the babe is not cared for, it will die, but that's not 
what we're talking about here.  Most abortions occur before 8 weeks gestation - 
a collection of cells barely beginning to form into tissue.  "Murder" is the 
premeditated taking of a human being's life.  No human being there, Mike.  
Simply the potential - many things go wrong.   
 

 Ultimately, Mike, you blame the mother in all cases—whether she aborts in 
accordance with her free will and belief system and/or economic or married 
state—or, if she has the child, and finds herself unsupported in a myriad of 
ways and in need of help. You kick her and her child both, who you choose to 
legitimize as a child and revere only in the "unborn" 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Of course the DNA isn't an exact match to the mother or father!  Still an 
unborn potential, though and under the purview of the mother.  That's the way 
God intended it, so to speak, and that's the way it is.  We have animal bodies; 
many animals cull out the weak to die, reject their offspring after birth!  1/5 
of pregnancies (or higher) end in miscarriage before 7 weeks.  Spontaneous 
abortion.  Not an act against nature.  No woman should be forced to be a mother 
in today's world.  We will continue to disagree. Signing off. :) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 What if  the soul doesn't *enter* the body. Buddha taught and is more commonly 
accepted in Hinduism that their isn't reincarnation, the transmigration of the 
soul but *rebirth*. Awareness dawns when when the body is capable of 
experience.When the nervous system is developed enough for the individual. At 
what point is that? Nobody knows. It could be different for each person. What 
makes that person an individual are the samskaras of a previous existence. When 
the nervous system is developed enough to begin to manifest the qualities of 
those samsakaras. Nobody knows when or how. We do know that infants that are 
currently being aborted can feel pain and pleasure. They can relax and tense 
up. Nobody knows when the *I* factor begins. What we do know is that those 
cells have the unique coding or DNA of another human being , not the mother not 
the father, a different being. Maharishi used to talk about a story in the 
Puranas about the master telling the disciple about holding an enormous banyan 
tree in the palm of his hand. He just picked up a seed from the tree. Within 
that seed,there was the DNA for that tree that it fell from. Once that seed 
sprouts, it is alive. Once the cells of the zygote begin to divide, it is 
showing *life*.

 We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and 
endowed from their creator with certain unalienable rights, among them the 
right to *life* liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 6:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   I guess early on the fetus is just a "tissue", and really, I am not sure 
what the term is when abortions are legal, but many of the images of abortions 
I have seen don't look like just a mass of "tissue".
 

 I am not disputing a woman's right to choose, but it appears to often come 
with emotional turmoil.  A close associate of mine recently had an abortion.  
It was, in my opinion the right decision and she felt good about it, but now, 
several months later, she is struggling a bit emotionally.
 

 I would also have to say, that I don't think a fetus, from a spiritual 
perspective, is likely to have a "better luck next time" attitude about the 
whole event.  I believe there is a behind the scenes scenario that plays out 
whereby a soul prepares to reincarnate.  At what point that soul may enter, or 
take ownership of the fetus, I don't know.  Perhaps, if I had a better 
understanding of that more esoteric aspect of "it", I would have a better idea 
of what, if any, are the unseen implications of an abortion.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 Go ahead and stand on your soapbox, Mike.  Stand there all day if you like!  
It's time for me to get off mine. :)  Seems to me that the population of the 
planet is not suffering in the least from a woman's right to abortion!   

 Yes, birth control, in the sense that the tissue is not be allowed to continue 
growing into a human being.  Her body, her decision.  Period.  The decision is 
made by the woman for the good of the woman and of the potential child.  That's 
the way I see it, hands down.  As a woman and the mother, she should retain the 
*right* to make that decision.
 

 I'm all for birth control to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, make no mistake.  
 

 Maybe you'll be reincarnated as a woman next time around and will get the 
opportunity to be a mother too. 
 

 I don't know when the soul enters the body, so to speak.  I truly, deep in my 
heart, do not consider it a problem.  If there is a loving God/Creator spirit, 
I am perfectly comfortable with the idea that the soul returns to Source, no 
harm done.  
 

 There is no *blame* involved, Mike.  God, you sound judgmental!  Have a better 
day!  Thanks for the conversation.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well, at least you've admitted, though indirectly, that most abortions are 
birth control. Unacceptable. Too many ways to prevent it in the first place. In 
your mind, at what point does one become a sentient being? I think Nancy Pelosi 
says "not until *it* leaves the hospital.
 The blame rests 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

When Maharishi first came to the US, he had a *quaint* little saying that 
charmed everyone. "Nobody has the right to suffer". Aw, isn't that sweet, he 
doesn't want me to suffer and he has something to relieve mine. Later among his 
closer devotees, his teachers, he would say "all suffering is caused by sin". 
Put those two sayings together and you have "nobody has a *right* to sin". 
Maharishi also talked about dharma and adharma.When a nation is following 
dharma it prospers and the people tend to be happy, suffering is minimal. When 
adharma sets in, chaos begins to develop.  Even George Washington was aware of 
this principle. He said in his inaugural speech that our nation could only 
expect the propitiation of God, his blessings, if we follow his natural order. 
Violate them and we lose his blessings. 
 We used to be *one nation under God* receiving His blessings. But in the 
sixties, atheism had it's first victory by removing any mention of God from the 
public square. Removing any mention of God from schools and it spread out. We 
started becoming a secular nation. We started killing and even condoning the 
killing of our next generation. We sacrificed our next generation for our own 
comforts. If you didn't have kids, you could have more for yourself. Fifty- 
five million children have been aborted since Roe v Wade. Our nation is so 
divided with arguing and bickering that it may not last much longer. We are in 
a state of adharma,and receiving the consequences of it. From a Jude-Christian 
perspective, we are under God's judgement. Too many people want to protect 
their *right* to sin and avoid any sense of judgement about it and  all call it 
*freedom* or even *freedom from religion*.
Enjoy your *rights* now because the times ,they are a changing.

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Well, I have no intention to have a conversation about "God's will" I 
assure you.  My general purpose in referencing "God's plan" and "God's will" 
was to refute your seeming arrogant surety that you are *RIGHT*, morally or 
spiritually in your assessment and condemnation of women who choose to exercise 
their right to abort.  
"Apples and oranges" in the sense that there is no way to even try to tie a 
decision on whether or not to bring a new life into the world to a decision by 
a crazed psychopathic madman to kill human beings already here!  Sorry, can't 
get there. 
Yes, most agree that humans have "free will" - and free will is involved in 
both those decisions - if that's what you mean.  
If you want to keep the "blame" game going in your head, here's an idea.  Focus 
on how states could legislate male reproductive rights.  Creative guy that you 
are, you should be able to come up with something!  It's not like women are 
experiencing "immaculate conception," after all. 
I hate to tell you, and perhaps I'll suffer in hell for awhile for this, but I 
don't really consider abortion even a moral issue.  I believe in the woman's 
right to choose, period.  There is no way on God's green earth I'm going to 
anyone, let alone a male dictate that decision for me.  I will bear the 
ultimate responsibility for my decision, either way.  Therefore, it is mine to 
make.  I think abortion should be legal, safe, affordable and de-stigmatized.  
If a woman of any age, for any reason, isn't ready to have a child, and finds 
herself pregnant, than she should be allowed the option to abort and it should 
be a medically safe procedure.  I believe strongly in birth control, in sex 
education, in educating boys and girls, and in the woman's right to choose.  
Consciously!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

We're talking about conscious decisions by human beings as opposed to God's 
will.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Apples and oranges, Mike. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

What if, what if ,what if...What if it were God's plan that Sharon Tate die a 
bloody death. Do we accept that Charlie Manson was doing God's will and let him 
out of prison?


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 And, perhaps the plan for the "life" is to remain *unborn*, or to be born 
through/in other circumstance.  Assuming, also, you believe in the "soul 
energy&qu

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

What if  the soul doesn't *enter* the body. Buddha taught and is more commonly 
accepted in Hinduism that their isn't reincarnation, the transmigration of the 
soul but *rebirth*. Awareness dawns when when the body is capable of 
experience.When the nervous system is developed enough for the individual. At 
what point is that? Nobody knows. It could be different for each person. What 
makes that person an individual are the samskaras of a previous existence. When 
the nervous system is developed enough to begin to manifest the qualities of 
those samsakaras. Nobody knows when or how. We do know that infants that are 
currently being aborted can feel pain and pleasure. They can relax and tense 
up. Nobody knows when the *I* factor begins. What we do know is that those 
cells have the unique coding or DNA of another human being , not the mother not 
the father, a different being. Maharishi used to talk about a story in the 
Puranas about the master telling the disciple about holding an enormous banyan 
tree in the palm of his hand. He just picked up a seed from the tree. Within 
that seed,there was the DNA for that tree that it fell from. Once that seed 
sprouts, it is alive. Once the cells of the zygote begin to divide, it is 
showing *life*.
We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and 
endowed from their creator with certain unalienable rights, among them the 
right to *life* liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 6:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    I guess early on the fetus is just a "tissue", and really, I am not sure 
what the term is when abortions are legal, but many of the images of abortions 
I have seen don't look like just a mass of "tissue".
I am not disputing a woman's right to choose, but it appears to often come with 
emotional turmoil.  A close associate of mine recently had an abortion.  It 
was, in my opinion the right decision and she felt good about it, but now, 
several months later, she is struggling a bit emotionally.
I would also have to say, that I don't think a fetus, from a spiritual 
perspective, is likely to have a "better luck next time" attitude about the 
whole event.  I believe there is a behind the scenes scenario that plays out 
whereby a soul prepares to reincarnate.  At what point that soul may enter, or 
take ownership of the fetus, I don't know.  Perhaps, if I had a better 
understanding of that more esoteric aspect of "it", I would have a better idea 
of what, if any, are the unseen implications of an abortion.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

Go ahead and stand on your soapbox, Mike.  Stand there all day if you like!  
It's time for me to get off mine. :)  Seems to me that the population of the 
planet is not suffering in the least from a woman's right to abortion!  
Yes, birth control, in the sense that the tissue is not be allowed to continue 
growing into a human being.  Her body, her decision.  Period.  The decision is 
made by the woman for the good of the woman and of the potential child.  That's 
the way I see it, hands down.  As a woman and the mother, she should retain the 
*right* to make that decision.    
I'm all for birth control to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, make no mistake.  
Maybe you'll be reincarnated as a woman next time around and will get the 
opportunity to be a mother too. 
I don't know when the soul enters the body, so to speak.  I truly, deep in my 
heart, do not consider it a problem.  If there is a loving God/Creator spirit, 
I am perfectly comfortable with the idea that the soul returns to Source, no 
harm done.  
There is no *blame* involved, Mike.  God, you sound judgmental!  Have a better 
day!  Thanks for the conversation.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well, at least you've admitted, though indirectly, that most abortions are 
birth control. Unacceptable. Too many ways to prevent it in the first place. In 
your mind, at what point does one become a sentient being? I think Nancy Pelosi 
says "not until *it* leaves the hospital.
The blame rests with the person choosing to have the abortion, unless she's 
forced to have one.

  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Long day Mike?  Of course the newborn can live on its own.  After all, it has 
been "born!"  If the babe is not cared for, it will die, but that's not what 
we're talking about here.  Most abortions occur before 8 weeks gestation - a 
collection of cells barely beginning to form into tissue.  "Murder" is the 
p

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I guess early on the fetus is just a "tissue", and really, I am not sure what 
the term is when abortions are legal, but many of the images of abortions I 
have seen don't look like just a mass of "tissue". 

 I am not disputing a woman's right to choose, but it appears to often come 
with emotional turmoil.  A close associate of mine recently had an abortion.  
It was, in my opinion the right decision and she felt good about it, but now, 
several months later, she is struggling a bit emotionally.
 

 I would also have to say, that I don't think a fetus, from a spiritual 
perspective, is likely to have a "better luck next time" attitude about the 
whole event.  I believe there is a behind the scenes scenario that plays out 
whereby a soul prepares to reincarnate.  At what point that soul may enter, or 
take ownership of the fetus, I don't know.  Perhaps, if I had a better 
understanding of that more esoteric aspect of "it", I would have a better idea 
of what, if any, are the unseen implications of an abortion.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 Go ahead and stand on your soapbox, Mike.  Stand there all day if you like!  
It's time for me to get off mine. :)  Seems to me that the population of the 
planet is not suffering in the least from a woman's right to abortion!   

 Yes, birth control, in the sense that the tissue is not be allowed to continue 
growing into a human being.  Her body, her decision.  Period.  The decision is 
made by the woman for the good of the woman and of the potential child.  That's 
the way I see it, hands down.  As a woman and the mother, she should retain the 
*right* to make that decision.
 

 I'm all for birth control to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, make no mistake.  
 

 Maybe you'll be reincarnated as a woman next time around and will get the 
opportunity to be a mother too. 
 

 I don't know when the soul enters the body, so to speak.  I truly, deep in my 
heart, do not consider it a problem.  If there is a loving God/Creator spirit, 
I am perfectly comfortable with the idea that the soul returns to Source, no 
harm done.  
 

 There is no *blame* involved, Mike.  God, you sound judgmental!  Have a better 
day!  Thanks for the conversation.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well, at least you've admitted, though indirectly, that most abortions are 
birth control. Unacceptable. Too many ways to prevent it in the first place. In 
your mind, at what point does one become a sentient being? I think Nancy Pelosi 
says "not until *it* leaves the hospital.
 The blame rests with the person choosing to have the abortion, unless she's 
forced to have one.
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Long day Mike?  Of course the newborn can live on its own.  After all, it 
has been "born!"  If the babe is not cared for, it will die, but that's not 
what we're talking about here.  Most abortions occur before 8 weeks gestation - 
a collection of cells barely beginning to form into tissue.  "Murder" is the 
premeditated taking of a human being's life.  No human being there, Mike.  
Simply the potential - many things go wrong.   
 

 Ultimately, Mike, you blame the mother in all cases—whether she aborts in 
accordance with her free will and belief system and/or economic or married 
state—or, if she has the child, and finds herself unsupported in a myriad of 
ways and in need of help. You kick her and her child both, who you choose to 
legitimize as a child and revere only in the "unborn" state (kids are so much 
easier to deal with when unborn!) to the curb, and then sit on the sidelines 
and judge and mock and resent having any responsibility for as a member of our 
society and go even further and suggest she should get her tubes tied!   

 Incredible!!  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 You say that " there is no way to consider the termination of a being that can 
not live on it's own as murder.'
  Do you think the courts would find a mother guilty of murder if she took her 
new born child, who could not live on it's own, out into the desert and left it 
to die or drowned it, knowing full well what she was doing?

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

"threw out"  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 A, I just through out a couple of suppositions for the purpose of 
expressing a little righteous indignation about your righteous certainty.  I am 
not qualified to have such a discussion. :)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Obviously you do or we wouldn't even be conversing about it.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Well, I have no intention to have a conversation about "God's will" I assure 
you.  My general purpose in referencing "God's plan" and "God's will" was to 
refute your seeming arrogant surety that you are *RIGHT*, morally or 
spiritually in your assessment and condemnation of women who choose to exercise 
their right to abort.  
 

 "Apples and oranges" in the sense that there is no way to even try to tie a 
decision on whether or not to bring a new life into the world to a decision by 
a crazed psychopathic madman to kill human beings already here!  Sorry, can't 
get there. 
 

 Yes, most agree that humans have "free will" - and free will is involved in 
both those decisions - if that's what you mean.  
 

 If you want to keep the "blame" game going in your head, here's an idea.  
Focus on how states could legislate male reproductive rights.  Creative guy 
that you are, you should be able to come up with something!  It's not like 
women are experiencing "immaculate conception," after all. 
 

 I hate to tell you, and perhaps I'll suffer in hell for awhile for this, but I 
don't really consider abortion even a moral issue.  I believe in the woman's 
right to choose, period.  There is no way on God's green earth I'm going to 
anyone, let alone a male dictate that decision for me.  I will bear the 
ultimate responsibility for my decision, either way.  Therefore, it is mine to 
make.  I think abortion should be legal, safe, affordable and de-stigmatized.  
If a woman of any age, for any reason, isn't ready to have a child, and finds 
herself pregnant, than she should be allowed the option to abort and it should 
be a medically safe procedure.  I believe strongly in birth control, in sex 
education, in educating boys and girls, and in the woman's right to choose.  
Consciously!
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 We're talking about conscious decisions by human beings as opposed to God's 
will.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Apples and oranges, Mike. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 What if, what if ,what if...What if it were God's plan that Sharon Tate die a 
bloody death. Do we accept that Charlie Manson was doing God's will and let him 
out of prison?

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   And, perhaps the plan for the "life" is to remain *unborn*, or to be born 
through/in other circumstance.  Assuming, also, you believe in the "soul 
energy" and "eternal life."  "Judge not lest ye be judged."  You cannot say you 
know what "God's will" is for another human being. Having said that, I admire 
your command of Biblical scripture.  
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Except one thing Emily, that verse goes on to describe God's plan for 
Jeremiah's life. "I set you apart to be a prophet to the nations".
  A prophet is a man that God speaks through to the rest of humanity, in this 
case, the *nations*, gentiles, non- Jews.\ And in this very verse, the 
prophetic voice is saying to the nations that God creates life in the womb and 
has a plan for that life, even that he knew you before he created you in the 
womb. This very verse describes why abortion is murder and  unacceptable. When 
you kill the fetus, you kill God's work.

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Not at all, Mike, not at all.  "Not born".remember "I knew you before 
you were born.." And, in that statement, there is much room for the 
presumption that Mike does not *know* God's plan!  There are many things t

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

A, I just through out a couple of suppositions for the purpose of 
expressing a little righteous indignation about your righteous certainty.  I am 
not qualified to have such a discussion. :)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Obviously you do or we wouldn't even be conversing about it.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Well, I have no intention to have a conversation about "God's will" I assure 
you.  My general purpose in referencing "God's plan" and "God's will" was to 
refute your seeming arrogant surety that you are *RIGHT*, morally or 
spiritually in your assessment and condemnation of women who choose to exercise 
their right to abort.  
 

 "Apples and oranges" in the sense that there is no way to even try to tie a 
decision on whether or not to bring a new life into the world to a decision by 
a crazed psychopathic madman to kill human beings already here!  Sorry, can't 
get there. 
 

 Yes, most agree that humans have "free will" - and free will is involved in 
both those decisions - if that's what you mean.  
 

 If you want to keep the "blame" game going in your head, here's an idea.  
Focus on how states could legislate male reproductive rights.  Creative guy 
that you are, you should be able to come up with something!  It's not like 
women are experiencing "immaculate conception," after all. 
 

 I hate to tell you, and perhaps I'll suffer in hell for awhile for this, but I 
don't really consider abortion even a moral issue.  I believe in the woman's 
right to choose, period.  There is no way on God's green earth I'm going to 
anyone, let alone a male dictate that decision for me.  I will bear the 
ultimate responsibility for my decision, either way.  Therefore, it is mine to 
make.  I think abortion should be legal, safe, affordable and de-stigmatized.  
If a woman of any age, for any reason, isn't ready to have a child, and finds 
herself pregnant, than she should be allowed the option to abort and it should 
be a medically safe procedure.  I believe strongly in birth control, in sex 
education, in educating boys and girls, and in the woman's right to choose.  
Consciously!
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 We're talking about conscious decisions by human beings as opposed to God's 
will.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Apples and oranges, Mike. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 What if, what if ,what if...What if it were God's plan that Sharon Tate die a 
bloody death. Do we accept that Charlie Manson was doing God's will and let him 
out of prison?

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   And, perhaps the plan for the "life" is to remain *unborn*, or to be born 
through/in other circumstance.  Assuming, also, you believe in the "soul 
energy" and "eternal life."  "Judge not lest ye be judged."  You cannot say you 
know what "God's will" is for another human being. Having said that, I admire 
your command of Biblical scripture.  
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Except one thing Emily, that verse goes on to describe God's plan for 
Jeremiah's life. "I set you apart to be a prophet to the nations".
  A prophet is a man that God speaks through to the rest of humanity, in this 
case, the *nations*, gentiles, non- Jews.\ And in this very verse, the 
prophetic voice is saying to the nations that God creates life in the womb and 
has a plan for that life, even that he knew you before he created you in the 
womb. This very verse describes why abortion is murder and  unacceptable. When 
you kill the fetus, you kill God's work.

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Not at all, Mike, not at all.  "Not born".remember "I knew you before 
you were born.." And, in that statement, there is much room for the 
presumption that Mike does not *know* God's plan!  There are many things that 
cannot be rationalized, imho, and the spiritual context for birth is one of 
them.  Le

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Obviously you do or we wouldn't even be conversing about it.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Well, I have no intention to have a conversation about "God's will" I 
assure you.  My general purpose in referencing "God's plan" and "God's will" 
was to refute your seeming arrogant surety that you are *RIGHT*, morally or 
spiritually in your assessment and condemnation of women who choose to exercise 
their right to abort.  
"Apples and oranges" in the sense that there is no way to even try to tie a 
decision on whether or not to bring a new life into the world to a decision by 
a crazed psychopathic madman to kill human beings already here!  Sorry, can't 
get there. 
Yes, most agree that humans have "free will" - and free will is involved in 
both those decisions - if that's what you mean.  
If you want to keep the "blame" game going in your head, here's an idea.  Focus 
on how states could legislate male reproductive rights.  Creative guy that you 
are, you should be able to come up with something!  It's not like women are 
experiencing "immaculate conception," after all. 
I hate to tell you, and perhaps I'll suffer in hell for awhile for this, but I 
don't really consider abortion even a moral issue.  I believe in the woman's 
right to choose, period.  There is no way on God's green earth I'm going to 
anyone, let alone a male dictate that decision for me.  I will bear the 
ultimate responsibility for my decision, either way.  Therefore, it is mine to 
make.  I think abortion should be legal, safe, affordable and de-stigmatized.  
If a woman of any age, for any reason, isn't ready to have a child, and finds 
herself pregnant, than she should be allowed the option to abort and it should 
be a medically safe procedure.  I believe strongly in birth control, in sex 
education, in educating boys and girls, and in the woman's right to choose.  
Consciously!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

We're talking about conscious decisions by human beings as opposed to God's 
will.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Apples and oranges, Mike. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

What if, what if ,what if...What if it were God's plan that Sharon Tate die a 
bloody death. Do we accept that Charlie Manson was doing God's will and let him 
out of prison?


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 And, perhaps the plan for the "life" is to remain *unborn*, or to be born 
through/in other circumstance.  Assuming, also, you believe in the "soul 
energy" and "eternal life."  "Judge not lest ye be judged."  You cannot say you 
know what "God's will" is for another human being. Having said that, I admire 
your command of Biblical scripture.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Except one thing Emily, that verse goes on to describe God's plan for 
Jeremiah's life. "I set you apart to be a prophet to the nations". A prophet is 
a man that God speaks through to the rest of humanity, in this case, the 
*nations*, gentiles, non- Jews.\ And in this very verse, the prophetic voice is 
saying to the nations that God creates life in the womb and has a plan for that 
life, even that he knew you before he created you in the womb. This very verse 
describes why abortion is murder and  unacceptable. When you kill the fetus, 
you kill God's work.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Not at all, Mike, not at all.  "Not born".remember "I knew you before you 
were born.." And, in that statement, there is much room for the presumption 
that Mike does not *know* God's plan!  There are many things that cannot be 
rationalized, imho, and the spiritual context for birth is one of them.  Leave 
room for the idea that you have *no idea* what you are talking about! 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

So to you, *unborn* makes them less of a person, less of a life, just a lump of 
tissue. More rationalization.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <Fairfie

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well, I have no intention to have a conversation about "God's will" I assure 
you.  My general purpose in referencing "God's plan" and "God's will" was to 
refute your seeming arrogant surety that you are *RIGHT*, morally or 
spiritually in your assessment and condemnation of women who choose to exercise 
their right to abort.   

 "Apples and oranges" in the sense that there is no way to even try to tie a 
decision on whether or not to bring a new life into the world to a decision by 
a crazed psychopathic madman to kill human beings already here!  Sorry, can't 
get there. 
 

 Yes, most agree that humans have "free will" - and free will is involved in 
both those decisions - if that's what you mean.  
 

 If you want to keep the "blame" game going in your head, here's an idea.  
Focus on how states could legislate male reproductive rights.  Creative guy 
that you are, you should be able to come up with something!  It's not like 
women are experiencing "immaculate conception," after all. 
 

 I hate to tell you, and perhaps I'll suffer in hell for awhile for this, but I 
don't really consider abortion even a moral issue.  I believe in the woman's 
right to choose, period.  There is no way on God's green earth I'm going to 
anyone, let alone a male dictate that decision for me.  I will bear the 
ultimate responsibility for my decision, either way.  Therefore, it is mine to 
make.  I think abortion should be legal, safe, affordable and de-stigmatized.  
If a woman of any age, for any reason, isn't ready to have a child, and finds 
herself pregnant, than she should be allowed the option to abort and it should 
be a medically safe procedure.  I believe strongly in birth control, in sex 
education, in educating boys and girls, and in the woman's right to choose.  
Consciously!
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 We're talking about conscious decisions by human beings as opposed to God's 
will.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Apples and oranges, Mike. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 What if, what if ,what if...What if it were God's plan that Sharon Tate die a 
bloody death. Do we accept that Charlie Manson was doing God's will and let him 
out of prison?

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   And, perhaps the plan for the "life" is to remain *unborn*, or to be born 
through/in other circumstance.  Assuming, also, you believe in the "soul 
energy" and "eternal life."  "Judge not lest ye be judged."  You cannot say you 
know what "God's will" is for another human being. Having said that, I admire 
your command of Biblical scripture.  
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Except one thing Emily, that verse goes on to describe God's plan for 
Jeremiah's life. "I set you apart to be a prophet to the nations".
  A prophet is a man that God speaks through to the rest of humanity, in this 
case, the *nations*, gentiles, non- Jews.\ And in this very verse, the 
prophetic voice is saying to the nations that God creates life in the womb and 
has a plan for that life, even that he knew you before he created you in the 
womb. This very verse describes why abortion is murder and  unacceptable. When 
you kill the fetus, you kill God's work.

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Not at all, Mike, not at all.  "Not born".remember "I knew you before 
you were born.." And, in that statement, there is much room for the 
presumption that Mike does not *know* God's plan!  There are many things that 
cannot be rationalized, imho, and the spiritual context for birth is one of 
them.  Leave room for the idea that you have *no idea* what you are talking 
about! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 So to you, *unborn* makes them less of a person, less of a life, just a lump 
of tissue. More rationalization.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.  
 

 Re: your 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

We're talking about conscious decisions by human beings as opposed to God's 
will.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Apples and oranges, Mike. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

What if, what if ,what if...What if it were God's plan that Sharon Tate die a 
bloody death. Do we accept that Charlie Manson was doing God's will and let him 
out of prison?


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 And, perhaps the plan for the "life" is to remain *unborn*, or to be born 
through/in other circumstance.  Assuming, also, you believe in the "soul 
energy" and "eternal life."  "Judge not lest ye be judged."  You cannot say you 
know what "God's will" is for another human being. Having said that, I admire 
your command of Biblical scripture.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Except one thing Emily, that verse goes on to describe God's plan for 
Jeremiah's life. "I set you apart to be a prophet to the nations". A prophet is 
a man that God speaks through to the rest of humanity, in this case, the 
*nations*, gentiles, non- Jews.\ And in this very verse, the prophetic voice is 
saying to the nations that God creates life in the womb and has a plan for that 
life, even that he knew you before he created you in the womb. This very verse 
describes why abortion is murder and  unacceptable. When you kill the fetus, 
you kill God's work.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Not at all, Mike, not at all.  "Not born".remember "I knew you before you 
were born.." And, in that statement, there is much room for the presumption 
that Mike does not *know* God's plan!  There are many things that cannot be 
rationalized, imho, and the spiritual context for birth is one of them.  Leave 
room for the idea that you have *no idea* what you are talking about! 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

So to you, *unborn* makes them less of a person, less of a life, just a lump of 
tissue. More rationalization.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.  
Re: your questions.  The key word is "unborn" Mike.  So many things about that 
word are out of your purview, spiritual and otherwise. I suggest you meditate 
on that word for awhile! :)  Advocate for what you believe in, of course.  
You know, I recently started volunteering for an organization that houses 
homeless families.  At the location I'm at, there are 50 kids.  Fifty!  The 
price of housing here has skyrocketed and there are serious economic 
consequences in play. Nor do we a good job of settling our refugees.  Here, we 
give them $1,000 for 3 months and send them on their way; that doesn't even 
come close to covering the cost of renting an apartment. Many do not speak 
English and cannot find work.  It's ridiculous.  Reportedly, it takes at least 
18 months to get on one's feet—3 months is a ridiculous time to assume 
assimilation at even the most basic levels.  It's been a real eye opener in a 
lot of ways.  Service can be achieved in many ways, but it's good for us all to 
get out of ourselves and off our self-righteous asses to join the community and 
do our part.  I'm no poster child however, and choose to reserve judgment on 
your behind!   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scriptu

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Go ahead and stand on your soapbox, Mike.  Stand there all day if you like!  
It's time for me to get off mine. :)  Seems to me that the population of the 
planet is not suffering in the least from a woman's right to abortion!   

 Yes, birth control, in the sense that the tissue is not be allowed to continue 
growing into a human being.  Her body, her decision.  Period.  The decision is 
made by the woman for the good of the woman and of the potential child.  That's 
the way I see it, hands down.  As a woman and the mother, she should retain the 
*right* to make that decision.
 

 I'm all for birth control to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, make no mistake.  
 

 Maybe you'll be reincarnated as a woman next time around and will get the 
opportunity to be a mother too. 
 

 I don't know when the soul enters the body, so to speak.  I truly, deep in my 
heart, do not consider it a problem.  If there is a loving God/Creator spirit, 
I am perfectly comfortable with the idea that the soul returns to Source, no 
harm done.  
 

 There is no *blame* involved, Mike.  God, you sound judgmental!  Have a better 
day!  Thanks for the conversation.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well, at least you've admitted, though indirectly, that most abortions are 
birth control. Unacceptable. Too many ways to prevent it in the first place. In 
your mind, at what point does one become a sentient being? I think Nancy Pelosi 
says "not until *it* leaves the hospital.
 The blame rests with the person choosing to have the abortion, unless she's 
forced to have one.
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Long day Mike?  Of course the newborn can live on its own.  After all, it 
has been "born!"  If the babe is not cared for, it will die, but that's not 
what we're talking about here.  Most abortions occur before 8 weeks gestation - 
a collection of cells barely beginning to form into tissue.  "Murder" is the 
premeditated taking of a human being's life.  No human being there, Mike.  
Simply the potential - many things go wrong.   
 

 Ultimately, Mike, you blame the mother in all cases—whether she aborts in 
accordance with her free will and belief system and/or economic or married 
state—or, if she has the child, and finds herself unsupported in a myriad of 
ways and in need of help. You kick her and her child both, who you choose to 
legitimize as a child and revere only in the "unborn" state (kids are so much 
easier to deal with when unborn!) to the curb, and then sit on the sidelines 
and judge and mock and resent having any responsibility for as a member of our 
society and go even further and suggest she should get her tubes tied!   

 Incredible!!  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 You say that " there is no way to consider the termination of a being that can 
not live on it's own as murder.'
  Do you think the courts would find a mother guilty of murder if she took her 
new born child, who could not live on it's own, out into the desert and left it 
to die or drowned it, knowing full well what she was doing?

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a being that cannot live on its own, "murder". It has never been so defined. 
Not in the courts, nor the holy books of any religion, including all of the 
sects of Christianity. It is NEVER called "murder". 
 

 This equation is a new fiction created by those who are attempting to impose 
their will on others. It is a weak and sleazy way to operate, and very cynical 
of humanity in general, as if in 2016 the average person cannot figure out what 
is best for them, unless someone misinterprets the Bible and starts calling 
abortion, "murder", to dishonestly game that issue. 
 

 So, calling abortion "murder", is based solely on imagination, without any 
basis in science or scripture. Fantasy. A very offensive way to operate when 
you seek to impose such a fantasy on others. These crazy thoughts equating 
abortion to murder are to be shared in a congregation perhaps, but they have no 
business whatsoever being expressed publicly, except as freedom of speech. 
Abortion as Murder? Absolute hogwash. Shame on you, and those who perpetuate 
such a ridiculous idea, seeking to impose it on others in

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Whaat?


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 10:27 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    What does that have to do with anything? You have your splinter agenda, 
along with the others of your sect. Doesn't make it righteous, accurate, or 
moral. You subvert the Bible, and having convinced yourselves of that, now take 
aim at the law of the land. Shame on you for spreading this blasphemy. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

You say that " there is no way to consider the termination of a being that can 
not live on it's own as murder.' Do you think the courts would find a mother 
guilty of murder if she took her new born child, who could not live on it's 
own, out into the desert and left it to die or drowned it, knowing full well 
what she was doing?


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a being that cannot live on its own, "murder". It has never been so defined. 
Not in the courts, nor the holy books of any religion, including all of the 
sects of Christianity. It is NEVER called "murder". 
This equation is a new fiction created by those who are attempting to impose 
their will on others. It is a weak and sleazy way to operate, and very cynical 
of humanity in general, as if in 2016 the average person cannot figure out what 
is best for them, unless someone misinterprets the Bible and starts calling 
abortion, "murder", to dishonestly game that issue. 
So, calling abortion "murder", is based solely on imagination, without any 
basis in science or scripture. Fantasy. A very offensive way to operate when 
you seek to impose such a fantasy on others. These crazy thoughts equating 
abortion to murder are to be shared in a congregation perhaps, but they have no 
business whatsoever being expressed publicly, except as freedom of speech. 
Abortion as Murder? Absolute hogwash. Shame on you, and those who perpetuate 
such a ridiculous idea, seeking to impose it on others in the name of God. 
Blasphemy is all that is.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. T

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

What does that have to do with anything? You have your splinter agenda, along 
with the others of your sect. Doesn't make it righteous, accurate, or moral. 
You subvert the Bible, and having convinced yourselves of that, now take aim at 
the law of the land. Shame on you for spreading this blasphemy.  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 You say that " there is no way to consider the termination of a being that can 
not live on it's own as murder.'
  Do you think the courts would find a mother guilty of murder if she took her 
new born child, who could not live on it's own, out into the desert and left it 
to die or drowned it, knowing full well what she was doing?

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a being that cannot live on its own, "murder". It has never been so defined. 
Not in the courts, nor the holy books of any religion, including all of the 
sects of Christianity. It is NEVER called "murder". 
 

 This equation is a new fiction created by those who are attempting to impose 
their will on others. It is a weak and sleazy way to operate, and very cynical 
of humanity in general, as if in 2016 the average person cannot figure out what 
is best for them, unless someone misinterprets the Bible and starts calling 
abortion, "murder", to dishonestly game that issue. 
 

 So, calling abortion "murder", is based solely on imagination, without any 
basis in science or scripture. Fantasy. A very offensive way to operate when 
you seek to impose such a fantasy on others. These crazy thoughts equating 
abortion to murder are to be shared in a congregation perhaps, but they have no 
business whatsoever being expressed publicly, except as freedom of speech. 
Abortion as Murder? Absolute hogwash. Shame on you, and those who perpetuate 
such a ridiculous idea, seeking to impose it on others in the name of God. 
Blasphemy is all that is.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.
 Karma's a bitch!



 From: "Mike Dix

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Apples and oranges, Mike. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 What if, what if ,what if...What if it were God's plan that Sharon Tate die a 
bloody death. Do we accept that Charlie Manson was doing God's will and let him 
out of prison?

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   And, perhaps the plan for the "life" is to remain *unborn*, or to be born 
through/in other circumstance.  Assuming, also, you believe in the "soul 
energy" and "eternal life."  "Judge not lest ye be judged."  You cannot say you 
know what "God's will" is for another human being. Having said that, I admire 
your command of Biblical scripture.  
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Except one thing Emily, that verse goes on to describe God's plan for 
Jeremiah's life. "I set you apart to be a prophet to the nations".
  A prophet is a man that God speaks through to the rest of humanity, in this 
case, the *nations*, gentiles, non- Jews.\ And in this very verse, the 
prophetic voice is saying to the nations that God creates life in the womb and 
has a plan for that life, even that he knew you before he created you in the 
womb. This very verse describes why abortion is murder and  unacceptable. When 
you kill the fetus, you kill God's work.

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Not at all, Mike, not at all.  "Not born".remember "I knew you before 
you were born.." And, in that statement, there is much room for the 
presumption that Mike does not *know* God's plan!  There are many things that 
cannot be rationalized, imho, and the spiritual context for birth is one of 
them.  Leave room for the idea that you have *no idea* what you are talking 
about! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 So to you, *unborn* makes them less of a person, less of a life, just a lump 
of tissue. More rationalization.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.  
 

 Re: your questions.  The key word is "unborn" Mike.  So many things about that 
word are out of your purview, spiritual and otherwise. I suggest you meditate 
on that word for awhile! :)  Advocate for what you believe in, of course.  
 

 You know, I recently started volunteering for an organization that houses 
homeless families.  At the location I'm at, there are 50 kids.  Fifty!  The 
price of housing here has skyrocketed and there are serious economic 
consequences in play. Nor do we a good job of settling our refugees.  Here, we 
give them $1,000 for 3 months and send them on their way; that doesn't even 
come close to covering the cost of renting an apartment. Many do not speak 
English and cannot find work.  It's ridiculous.  Reportedly, it takes at least 
18 months to get on one's feet—3 months is a ridiculous time to assume 
assimilation at even the most basic levels.  It's been a real eye opener in a 
lot of ways.  Service can be achieved in many ways, but it's good for us all to 
get out of ourselves and off our self-righteous asses to join the community and 
do our part.  I'm no poster child however, and choose to reserve judgment on 
your behind!   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in res

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Hitler was invoked because he murdered six million Jews for the *betterment* of 
Germany.
Since Roe v Wade, some 55 million humans of all races, creeds ethnicity and 
religions in the United States, have been aborted/terminated/murdered. The 
overwhelming majority of them as a means of birth control.
  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Fascinating.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

It doesn't fit. That's what Godwin's Law is about.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

If the shoe fits...


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Godwin's Law strikes again...Reductio ad Hitlerum.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

And Hitler could have made the same rationalization for what he did to his 
victims.


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well, at least you've admitted, though indirectly, that most abortions are 
birth control. Unacceptable. Too many ways to prevent it in the first place. In 
your mind, at what point does one become a sentient being? I think Nancy Pelosi 
says "not until *it* leaves the hospital.
The blame rests with the person choosing to have the abortion, unless she's 
forced to have one.

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Long day Mike?  Of course the newborn can live on its own.  After all, it 
has been "born!"  If the babe is not cared for, it will die, but that's not 
what we're talking about here.  Most abortions occur before 8 weeks gestation - 
a collection of cells barely beginning to form into tissue.  "Murder" is the 
premeditated taking of a human being's life.  No human being there, Mike.  
Simply the potential - many things go wrong.   
Ultimately, Mike, you blame the mother in all cases—whether she aborts in 
accordance with her free will and belief system and/or economic or married 
state—or, if she has the child, and finds herself unsupported in a myriad of 
ways and in need of help. You kick her and her child both, who you choose to 
legitimize as a child and revere only in the "unborn" state (kids are so much 
easier to deal with when unborn!) to the curb, and then sit on the sidelines 
and judge and mock and resent having any responsibility for as a member of our 
society and go even further and suggest she should get her tubes tied!  
Incredible!!  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

You say that " there is no way to consider the termination of a being that can 
not live on it's own as murder.' Do you think the courts would find a mother 
guilty of murder if she took her new born child, who could not live on it's 
own, out into the desert and left it to die or drowned it, knowing full well 
what she was doing?


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a being that cannot live on its own, "murder". It has never been so defined. 
Not in the courts, nor the holy books of any religion, including all of the 
sects of Christianity. It is NEVER called "murder". 
This equation is a new fiction created by those who are attempting to impose 
their will on others. It is a weak and sleazy way to operate, and very cynical 
of humanity in general, as if in 2016 the average person cannot figure out what 
is best for them, unless someone misinterprets the Bible and starts calling 
abortion, "murder", to dishonestly game that issue. 
So, calling abortion "murder", is based solely on imagination, without any 
basis in science or scripture. Fantasy. A very offensive way to operate when 
you seek to impose such a fantasy on others. These crazy thoughts equating 
abortion to murder are to be shared in a congregation perhaps, but they have no 
business whatsoever being expressed publicly, except as freedom of speech. 
Abortion as Murder? Absolute hogwash. Shame on you, and those who perpetuate 
such a ridiculous idea, seeking to impose it on others in the name of God. 
Blasphemy is all that is.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

What if, what if ,what if...What if it were God's plan that Sharon Tate die a 
bloody death. Do we accept that Charlie Manson was doing God's will and let him 
out of prison?


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    And, perhaps the plan for the "life" is to remain *unborn*, or to be born 
through/in other circumstance.  Assuming, also, you believe in the "soul 
energy" and "eternal life."  "Judge not lest ye be judged."  You cannot say you 
know what "God's will" is for another human being. Having said that, I admire 
your command of Biblical scripture.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Except one thing Emily, that verse goes on to describe God's plan for 
Jeremiah's life. "I set you apart to be a prophet to the nations". A prophet is 
a man that God speaks through to the rest of humanity, in this case, the 
*nations*, gentiles, non- Jews.\ And in this very verse, the prophetic voice is 
saying to the nations that God creates life in the womb and has a plan for that 
life, even that he knew you before he created you in the womb. This very verse 
describes why abortion is murder and  unacceptable. When you kill the fetus, 
you kill God's work.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Not at all, Mike, not at all.  "Not born".remember "I knew you before you 
were born.." And, in that statement, there is much room for the presumption 
that Mike does not *know* God's plan!  There are many things that cannot be 
rationalized, imho, and the spiritual context for birth is one of them.  Leave 
room for the idea that you have *no idea* what you are talking about! 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

So to you, *unborn* makes them less of a person, less of a life, just a lump of 
tissue. More rationalization.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.  
Re: your questions.  The key word is "unborn" Mike.  So many things about that 
word are out of your purview, spiritual and otherwise. I suggest you meditate 
on that word for awhile! :)  Advocate for what you believe in, of course.  
You know, I recently started volunteering for an organization that houses 
homeless families.  At the location I'm at, there are 50 kids.  Fifty!  The 
price of housing here has skyrocketed and there are serious economic 
consequences in play. Nor do we a good job of settling our refugees.  Here, we 
give them $1,000 for 3 months and send them on their way; that doesn't even 
come close to covering the cost of renting an apartment. Many do not speak 
English and cannot find work.  It's ridiculous.  Reportedly, it takes at least 
18 months to get on one's feet—3 months is a ridiculous time to assume 
assimilation at even the most basic levels.  It's been a real eye opener in a 
lot of ways.  Service can be achieved in many ways, but it's good for us all to 
get out of ourselves and off our self-righteous asses to join the community and 
do our part.  I'm no poster child however, and choose to reserve judgment on 
your behind!   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost th

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Fascinating.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 It doesn't fit. That's what Godwin's Law is about. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 If the shoe fits...
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Godwin's Law strikes again...Reductio ad Hitlerum.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And Hitler could have made the same rationalization for what he did to his 
victims.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms u

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It doesn't fit. That's what Godwin's Law is about. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 If the shoe fits...
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Godwin's Law strikes again...Reductio ad Hitlerum.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And Hitler could have made the same rationalization for what he did to his 
victims.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
f

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Long day Mike?  Of course the newborn can live on its own.  After all, it has 
been "born!"  If the babe is not cared for, it will die, but that's not what 
we're talking about here.  Most abortions occur before 8 weeks gestation - a 
collection of cells barely beginning to form into tissue.  "Murder" is the 
premeditated taking of a human being's life.  No human being there, Mike.  
Simply the potential - many things go wrong.

 Ultimately, Mike, you blame the mother in all cases—whether she aborts in 
accordance with her free will and belief system and/or economic or married 
state—or, if she has the child, and finds herself unsupported in a myriad of 
ways and in need of help. You kick her and her child both, who you choose to 
legitimize as a child and revere only in the "unborn" state (kids are so much 
easier to deal with when unborn!) to the curb, and then sit on the sidelines 
and judge and mock and resent having any responsibility for as a member of our 
society and go even further and suggest she should get her tubes tied!   

 Incredible!!  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 You say that " there is no way to consider the termination of a being that can 
not live on it's own as murder.'
  Do you think the courts would find a mother guilty of murder if she took her 
new born child, who could not live on it's own, out into the desert and left it 
to die or drowned it, knowing full well what she was doing?

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a being that cannot live on its own, "murder". It has never been so defined. 
Not in the courts, nor the holy books of any religion, including all of the 
sects of Christianity. It is NEVER called "murder". 
 

 This equation is a new fiction created by those who are attempting to impose 
their will on others. It is a weak and sleazy way to operate, and very cynical 
of humanity in general, as if in 2016 the average person cannot figure out what 
is best for them, unless someone misinterprets the Bible and starts calling 
abortion, "murder", to dishonestly game that issue. 
 

 So, calling abortion "murder", is based solely on imagination, without any 
basis in science or scripture. Fantasy. A very offensive way to operate when 
you seek to impose such a fantasy on others. These crazy thoughts equating 
abortion to murder are to be shared in a congregation perhaps, but they have no 
business whatsoever being expressed publicly, except as freedom of speech. 
Abortion as Murder? Absolute hogwash. Shame on you, and those who perpetuate 
such a ridiculous idea, seeking to impose it on others in the name of God. 
Blasphemy is all that is.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

And, perhaps the plan for the "life" is to remain *unborn*, or to be born 
through/in other circumstance.  Assuming, also, you believe in the "soul 
energy" and "eternal life."  "Judge not lest ye be judged."  You cannot say you 
know what "God's will" is for another human being. Having said that, I admire 
your command of Biblical scripture.   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Except one thing Emily, that verse goes on to describe God's plan for 
Jeremiah's life. "I set you apart to be a prophet to the nations".
  A prophet is a man that God speaks through to the rest of humanity, in this 
case, the *nations*, gentiles, non- Jews.\ And in this very verse, the 
prophetic voice is saying to the nations that God creates life in the womb and 
has a plan for that life, even that he knew you before he created you in the 
womb. This very verse describes why abortion is murder and  unacceptable. When 
you kill the fetus, you kill God's work.

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Not at all, Mike, not at all.  "Not born".remember "I knew you before 
you were born.." And, in that statement, there is much room for the 
presumption that Mike does not *know* God's plan!  There are many things that 
cannot be rationalized, imho, and the spiritual context for birth is one of 
them.  Leave room for the idea that you have *no idea* what you are talking 
about! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 So to you, *unborn* makes them less of a person, less of a life, just a lump 
of tissue. More rationalization.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.  
 

 Re: your questions.  The key word is "unborn" Mike.  So many things about that 
word are out of your purview, spiritual and otherwise. I suggest you meditate 
on that word for awhile! :)  Advocate for what you believe in, of course.  
 

 You know, I recently started volunteering for an organization that houses 
homeless families.  At the location I'm at, there are 50 kids.  Fifty!  The 
price of housing here has skyrocketed and there are serious economic 
consequences in play. Nor do we a good job of settling our refugees.  Here, we 
give them $1,000 for 3 months and send them on their way; that doesn't even 
come close to covering the cost of renting an apartment. Many do not speak 
English and cannot find work.  It's ridiculous.  Reportedly, it takes at least 
18 months to get on one's feet—3 months is a ridiculous time to assume 
assimilation at even the most basic levels.  It's been a real eye opener in a 
lot of ways.  Service can be achieved in many ways, but it's good for us all to 
get out of ourselves and off our self-righteous asses to join the community and 
do our part.  I'm no poster child however, and choose to reserve judgment on 
your behind!   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You say that " there is no way to consider the termination of a being that can 
not live on it's own as murder.' Do you think the courts would find a mother 
guilty of murder if she took her new born child, who could not live on it's 
own, out into the desert and left it to die or drowned it, knowing full well 
what she was doing?


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a being that cannot live on its own, "murder". It has never been so defined. 
Not in the courts, nor the holy books of any religion, including all of the 
sects of Christianity. It is NEVER called "murder". 
This equation is a new fiction created by those who are attempting to impose 
their will on others. It is a weak and sleazy way to operate, and very cynical 
of humanity in general, as if in 2016 the average person cannot figure out what 
is best for them, unless someone misinterprets the Bible and starts calling 
abortion, "murder", to dishonestly game that issue. 
So, calling abortion "murder", is based solely on imagination, without any 
basis in science or scripture. Fantasy. A very offensive way to operate when 
you seek to impose such a fantasy on others. These crazy thoughts equating 
abortion to murder are to be shared in a congregation perhaps, but they have no 
business whatsoever being expressed publicly, except as freedom of speech. 
Abortion as Murder? Absolute hogwash. Shame on you, and those who perpetuate 
such a ridiculous idea, seeking to impose it on others in the name of God. 
Blasphemy is all that is.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 
You brought up religion with your justifications of abort

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

BTW, I started this whole thread off from a position that our founding 
documents guarantee *Life* liberty and the pursuit of happiness. 
Ollie brought up the religious perspective by saying being against a woman 
having an abortion was a sin or some such nonsense.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Ha, you see, independently we have come full circle and back to 
scripture—we just interpret it differently, as we are!  
By the way, neither Judy nor I has mentioned the word "murder" in relation to 
abortion.  That's you presuming again you have the right to make that 
association. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Jeremiah 1:5  "I knew you before you were formed in your mothers womb. Before 
you were born, I set you apart and appointed you to be a prophet to the 
nations." Now that was a plan for Jeremiah's life from the beginning.
 Judy, I have never claimed to know what God's plan is for anyone. But then, 
neither do you know. But He does and warns mankind not to murder. My 
responsibility is to never condone it or find it acceptable and prevent it when 
I can.You can rationalize why it should be done all you want and live with it.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe be unto those that call *good* bad and *bad* good.

  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 The problem is invoking "God's plan" as if you were in a position to know what 
it is. Make your own personal judgments and take responsibility for them.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

So when anyone defends an innocent life they are playing God? Why have laws 
against murder? No one else's business when someone kills another person.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Amen.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
se

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That is a step in the right direction, though you are hanging out with the 
wrong deity if they consider abortion to be murder. You say the mother is being 
selfish. Fine, let her be selfish. There is no way to consider the termination 
of a being that cannot live on its own, "murder". It has never been so defined. 
Not in the courts, nor the holy books of any religion, including all of the 
sects of Christianity. It is NEVER called "murder".  

 This equation is a new fiction created by those who are attempting to impose 
their will on others. It is a weak and sleazy way to operate, and very cynical 
of humanity in general, as if in 2016 the average person cannot figure out what 
is best for them, unless someone misinterprets the Bible and starts calling 
abortion, "murder", to dishonestly game that issue. 
 

 So, calling abortion "murder", is based solely on imagination, without any 
basis in science or scripture. Fantasy. A very offensive way to operate when 
you seek to impose such a fantasy on others. These crazy thoughts equating 
abortion to murder are to be shared in a congregation perhaps, but they have no 
business whatsoever being expressed publicly, except as freedom of speech. 
Abortion as Murder? Absolute hogwash. Shame on you, and those who perpetuate 
such a ridiculous idea, seeking to impose it on others in the name of God. 
Blasphemy is all that is.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.
 Karma's a bitch!



 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 

 You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Murder is normally considered the taking of innocent life. Life that has not 
committed a crime.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Ha, you see, independently we have come full circle and back to 
scripture—we just interpret it differently, as we are!  
By the way, neither Judy nor I has mentioned the word "murder" in relation to 
abortion.  That's you presuming again you have the right to make that 
association. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Jeremiah 1:5  "I knew you before you were formed in your mothers womb. Before 
you were born, I set you apart and appointed you to be a prophet to the 
nations." Now that was a plan for Jeremiah's life from the beginning.
 Judy, I have never claimed to know what God's plan is for anyone. But then, 
neither do you know. But He does and warns mankind not to murder. My 
responsibility is to never condone it or find it acceptable and prevent it when 
I can.You can rationalize why it should be done all you want and live with it.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe be unto those that call *good* bad and *bad* good.

  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 The problem is invoking "God's plan" as if you were in a position to know what 
it is. Make your own personal judgments and take responsibility for them.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

So when anyone defends an innocent life they are playing God? Why have laws 
against murder? No one else's business when someone kills another person.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Amen.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
ques

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Except one thing Emily, that verse goes on to describe God's plan for 
Jeremiah's life. "I set you apart to be a prophet to the nations". A prophet is 
a man that God speaks through to the rest of humanity, in this case, the 
*nations*, gentiles, non- Jews.\ And in this very verse, the prophetic voice is 
saying to the nations that God creates life in the womb and has a plan for that 
life, even that he knew you before he created you in the womb. This very verse 
describes why abortion is murder and  unacceptable. When you kill the fetus, 
you kill God's work.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Not at all, Mike, not at all.  "Not born".remember "I knew you before 
you were born.." And, in that statement, there is much room for the 
presumption that Mike does not *know* God's plan!  There are many things that 
cannot be rationalized, imho, and the spiritual context for birth is one of 
them.  Leave room for the idea that you have *no idea* what you are talking 
about! 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

So to you, *unborn* makes them less of a person, less of a life, just a lump of 
tissue. More rationalization.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.  
Re: your questions.  The key word is "unborn" Mike.  So many things about that 
word are out of your purview, spiritual and otherwise. I suggest you meditate 
on that word for awhile! :)  Advocate for what you believe in, of course.  
You know, I recently started volunteering for an organization that houses 
homeless families.  At the location I'm at, there are 50 kids.  Fifty!  The 
price of housing here has skyrocketed and there are serious economic 
consequences in play. Nor do we a good job of settling our refugees.  Here, we 
give them $1,000 for 3 months and send them on their way; that doesn't even 
come close to covering the cost of renting an apartment. Many do not speak 
English and cannot find work.  It's ridiculous.  Reportedly, it takes at least 
18 months to get on one's feet—3 months is a ridiculous time to assume 
assimilation at even the most basic levels.  It's been a real eye opener in a 
lot of ways.  Service can be achieved in many ways, but it's good for us all to 
get out of ourselves and off our self-righteous asses to join the community and 
do our part.  I'm no poster child however, and choose to reserve judgment on 
your behind!   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ha, you see, independently we have come full circle and back to scripture—we 
just interpret it differently, as we are!   

 By the way, neither Judy nor I has mentioned the word "murder" in relation to 
abortion.  That's you presuming again you have the right to make that 
association.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

  Jeremiah 1:5  "I knew you before you were formed in your mothers womb. Before 
you were born, I set you apart and appointed you to be a prophet to the 
nations." Now that was a plan for Jeremiah's life from the beginning.

  Judy, I have never claimed to know what God's plan is for anyone. But then, 
neither do you know. But He does and warns mankind not to murder. My 
responsibility is to never condone it or find it acceptable and prevent it when 
I can.
 You can rationalize why it should be done all you want and live with it.

 Isaiah 5:20 Woe be unto those that call *good* bad and *bad* good.
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   The problem is invoking "God's plan" as if you were in a position to know 
what it is. Make your own personal judgments and take responsibility for them.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 So when anyone defends an innocent life they are playing God? Why have laws 
against murder? No one else's business when someone kills another person.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Amen.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Not at all, Mike, not at all.  "Not born".remember "I knew you before you 
were born.." And, in that statement, there is much room for the presumption 
that Mike does not *know* God's plan!  There are many things that cannot be 
rationalized, imho, and the spiritual context for birth is one of them.  Leave 
room for the idea that you have *no idea* what you are talking about! 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 So to you, *unborn* makes them less of a person, less of a life, just a lump 
of tissue. More rationalization.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.  
 

 Re: your questions.  The key word is "unborn" Mike.  So many things about that 
word are out of your purview, spiritual and otherwise. I suggest you meditate 
on that word for awhile! :)  Advocate for what you believe in, of course.  
 

 You know, I recently started volunteering for an organization that houses 
homeless families.  At the location I'm at, there are 50 kids.  Fifty!  The 
price of housing here has skyrocketed and there are serious economic 
consequences in play. Nor do we a good job of settling our refugees.  Here, we 
give them $1,000 for 3 months and send them on their way; that doesn't even 
come close to covering the cost of renting an apartment. Many do not speak 
English and cannot find work.  It's ridiculous.  Reportedly, it takes at least 
18 months to get on one's feet—3 months is a ridiculous time to assume 
assimilation at even the most basic levels.  It's been a real eye opener in a 
lot of ways.  Service can be achieved in many ways, but it's good for us all to 
get out of ourselves and off our self-righteous asses to join the community and 
do our part.  I'm no poster child however, and choose to reserve judgment on 
your behind!   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Jeremiah 1:5  "I knew you before you were formed in your mothers womb. Before 
you were born, I set you apart and appointed you to be a prophet to the 
nations." Now that was a plan for Jeremiah's life from the beginning.
 Judy, I have never claimed to know what God's plan is for anyone. But then, 
neither do you know. But He does and warns mankind not to murder. My 
responsibility is to never condone it or find it acceptable and prevent it when 
I can.You can rationalize why it should be done all you want and live with it.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe be unto those that call *good* bad and *bad* good.

  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    The problem is invoking "God's plan" as if you were in a position to know 
what it is. Make your own personal judgments and take responsibility for them.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

So when anyone defends an innocent life they are playing God? Why have laws 
against murder? No one else's business when someone kills another person.


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Amen.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
i

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Should be..."with repatriating or returning"
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 Your question and language is ludicrous on so many levels I can't even 
respond.  Suffice it to say, however, as one of God's children, and as a fetus 
in my mother's womb, I'm pretty positive that I would have been just fine to 
repatriate back to the loving Creator instead of incarnating here on earth to 
suffer my "karma."
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps, is rationalization. Rationalize murder all you want.
 Emily if you were about to be murdered, would you want someone to intervene on 
your behalf or should they say, well, maybe it's God's plan for her to be 
murdered and let your assailant carry on?

  I can't say I know God's plans for everyone, maybe not even myself. But I do 
know that  it is written in my being that murder is wrong and innocent life is 
to be protected.

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Re: "Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering 
either?" 
 

 Is an unborn "child" a child of this world?  Perhaps the "unborn" child is 
just that..a child of God and under God's domain, not yours!
 

 In answer to your first question, the answer is "yes." Why do you think you 
know God's plan?  Kind of arrogant, don't you think?  
 

 I've said enough, Mike.  I don't choose to play God myself and it isn't my job 
to ultimately "judge" you, so I don't.  I will tell you that I don't have a 
history of volunteering either.  I recently began volunteering for an 
organization that runs homeless shelters for families - at one location alone, 
there are 50 children.  Fifty!!!  These aren't parents that are drug addicted - 
none of those unfortunate souls are allowed to reside there - too many children 
at risk.  The cost of housing here in Seattle has risen far above many working 
families ability to afford it.  It's a real eye opener, I will tell you.  I am 
also renting out part of my house soon—to help out my own situation and also to 
practice a more open way of being.  Believe me when I tell you I have some 
lessons to learn also.  We can all do our part and I am of the opinion that 
those who judge the most harshly could benefit the most from a little service 
to others (smile).  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opin

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

If the shoe fits...


  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Godwin's Law strikes again...Reductio ad Hitlerum.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

And Hitler could have made the same rationalization for what he did to his 
victims.


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

So to you, *unborn* makes them less of a person, less of a life, just a lump of 
tissue. More rationalization.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 4:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.  
Re: your questions.  The key word is "unborn" Mike.  So many things about that 
word are out of your purview, spiritual and otherwise. I suggest you meditate 
on that word for awhile! :)  Advocate for what you believe in, of course.  
You know, I recently started volunteering for an organization that houses 
homeless families.  At the location I'm at, there are 50 kids.  Fifty!  The 
price of housing here has skyrocketed and there are serious economic 
consequences in play. Nor do we a good job of settling our refugees.  Here, we 
give them $1,000 for 3 months and send them on their way; that doesn't even 
come close to covering the cost of renting an apartment. Many do not speak 
English and cannot find work.  It's ridiculous.  Reportedly, it takes at least 
18 months to get on one's feet—3 months is a ridiculous time to assume 
assimilation at even the most basic levels.  It's been a real eye opener in a 
lot of ways.  Service can be achieved in many ways, but it's good for us all to 
get out of ourselves and off our self-righteous asses to join the community and 
do our part.  I'm no poster child however, and choose to reserve judgment on 
your behind!   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Your question and language is ludicrous on so many levels I can't even respond. 
 Suffice it to say, however, as one of God's children, and as a fetus in my 
mother's womb, I'm pretty positive that I would have been just fine to 
repatriate back to the loving Creator instead of incarnating here on earth to 
suffer my "karma."
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps, is rationalization. Rationalize murder all you want.
 Emily if you were about to be murdered, would you want someone to intervene on 
your behalf or should they say, well, maybe it's God's plan for her to be 
murdered and let your assailant carry on?

  I can't say I know God's plans for everyone, maybe not even myself. But I do 
know that  it is written in my being that murder is wrong and innocent life is 
to be protected.

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Re: "Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering 
either?" 
 

 Is an unborn "child" a child of this world?  Perhaps the "unborn" child is 
just that..a child of God and under God's domain, not yours!
 

 In answer to your first question, the answer is "yes." Why do you think you 
know God's plan?  Kind of arrogant, don't you think?  
 

 I've said enough, Mike.  I don't choose to play God myself and it isn't my job 
to ultimately "judge" you, so I don't.  I will tell you that I don't have a 
history of volunteering either.  I recently began volunteering for an 
organization that runs homeless shelters for families - at one location alone, 
there are 50 children.  Fifty!!!  These aren't parents that are drug addicted - 
none of those unfortunate souls are allowed to reside there - too many children 
at risk.  The cost of housing here in Seattle has risen far above many working 
families ability to afford it.  It's a real eye opener, I will tell you.  I am 
also renting out part of my house soon—to help out my own situation and also to 
practice a more open way of being.  Believe me when I tell you I have some 
lessons to learn also.  We can all do our part and I am of the opinion that 
those who judge the most harshly could benefit the most from a little service 
to others (smile).  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great w

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yahoo just refused to send my reply!  A sign that I've said enough.   

 Re: your questions.  The key word is "unborn" Mike.  So many things about that 
word are out of your purview, spiritual and otherwise. I suggest you meditate 
on that word for awhile! :)  Advocate for what you believe in, of course.  
 

 You know, I recently started volunteering for an organization that houses 
homeless families.  At the location I'm at, there are 50 kids.  Fifty!  The 
price of housing here has skyrocketed and there are serious economic 
consequences in play. Nor do we a good job of settling our refugees.  Here, we 
give them $1,000 for 3 months and send them on their way; that doesn't even 
come close to covering the cost of renting an apartment. Many do not speak 
English and cannot find work.  It's ridiculous.  Reportedly, it takes at least 
18 months to get on one's feet—3 months is a ridiculous time to assume 
assimilation at even the most basic levels.  It's been a real eye opener in a 
lot of ways.  Service can be achieved in many ways, but it's good for us all to 
get out of ourselves and off our self-righteous asses to join the community and 
do our part.  I'm no poster child however, and choose to reserve judgment on 
your behind!   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps, is rationalization. Rationalize murder all you 
want.Emily if you were about to be murdered, would you want someone to 
intervene on your behalf or should they say, well, maybe it's God's plan for 
her to be murdered and let your assailant carry on?
 I can't say I know God's plans for everyone, maybe not even myself. But I do 
know that  it is written in my being that murder is wrong and innocent life is 
to be protected.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Re: "Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering 
either?" 
Is an unborn "child" a child of this world?  Perhaps the "unborn" child is just 
that..a child of God and under God's domain, not yours!
In answer to your first question, the answer is "yes." Why do you think you 
know God's plan?  Kind of arrogant, don't you think?  
I've said enough, Mike.  I don't choose to play God myself and it isn't my job 
to ultimately "judge" you, so I don't.  I will tell you that I don't have a 
history of volunteering either.  I recently began volunteering for an 
organization that runs homeless shelters for families - at one location alone, 
there are 50 children.  Fifty!!!  These aren't parents that are drug addicted - 
none of those unfortunate souls are allowed to reside there - too many children 
at risk.  The cost of housing here in Seattle has risen far above many working 
families ability to afford it.  It's a real eye opener, I will tell you.  I am 
also renting out part of my house soon—to help out my own situation and also to 
practice a more open way of being.  Believe me when I tell you I have some 
lessons to learn also.  We can all do our part and I am of the opinion that 
those who judge the most harshly could benefit the most from a little service 
to others (smile).  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The problem is invoking "God's plan" as if you were in a position to know what 
it is. Make your own personal judgments and take responsibility for them. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 So when anyone defends an innocent life they are playing God? Why have laws 
against murder? No one else's business when someone kills another person.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Amen.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate ev

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Godwin's Law strikes again...Reductio ad Hitlerum. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And Hitler could have made the same rationalization for what he did to his 
victims.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.
 Karma's a bitch!



 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldL

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

So when anyone defends an innocent life they are playing God? Why have laws 
against murder? No one else's business when someone kills another person.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Amen.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroup

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

And Hitler could have made the same rationalization for what he did to his 
victims.


  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. 
Maybe the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re: "Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering 
either?"  

 Is an unborn "child" a child of this world?  Perhaps the "unborn" child is 
just that..a child of God and under God's domain, not yours!
 

 In answer to your first question, the answer is "yes." Why do you think you 
know God's plan?  Kind of arrogant, don't you think?  
 

 I've said enough, Mike.  I don't choose to play God myself and it isn't my job 
to ultimately "judge" you, so I don't.  I will tell you that I don't have a 
history of volunteering either.  I recently began volunteering for an 
organization that runs homeless shelters for families - at one location alone, 
there are 50 children.  Fifty!!!  These aren't parents that are drug addicted - 
none of those unfortunate souls are allowed to reside there - too many children 
at risk.  The cost of housing here in Seattle has risen far above many working 
families ability to afford it.  It's a real eye opener, I will tell you.  I am 
also renting out part of my house soon—to help out my own situation and also to 
practice a more open way of being.  Believe me when I tell you I have some 
lessons to learn also.  We can all do our part and I am of the opinion that 
those who judge the most harshly could benefit the most from a little service 
to others (smile).  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re: "Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering 
either?"  

 Is an unborn "child" a child of this world?  Perhaps the "unborn" child is 
just that..a child of God and under God's domain, not yours!
 

 In answer to your first question, the answer is "yes." Why do you think you 
know God's plan?  Kind of arrogant, don't you think?  
 

 I've said enough, Mike.  I don't choose to play God myself and it isn't my job 
to ultimately "judge" you, so I don't.  I will tell you that I don't have a 
history of volunteering either.  I recently began volunteering for an 
organization that runs homeless shelters for families - at one location alone, 
there are 50 children.  Fifty!!!  These aren't parents that are drug addicted - 
none of those unfortunate souls are allowed to reside there - too many children 
at risk.  The cost of housing here in Seattle has risen far above many working 
families ability to afford it.  It's a real eye opener, I will tell you.  I am 
also renting out part of my house soon—to help out my own situation and also to 
practice a more open way of being.  Believe me when I tell you I have some 
lessons to learn also.  We can all do our part and I am of the opinion that 
those who judge the most harshly could benefit the most from a little service 
to others (smile).  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Amen.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.
 Karma's a bitch!



 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 

 You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion a

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You're playing God when you claim to know God's plan is for the fetus. Maybe 
the plan is actually for the woman, to lead her to make a sensible and 
compassionate decision about whether that fetus should be born under the 
circumstances she faces. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.
 Karma's a bitch!



 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 

 You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purel

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Am I the one playing God when I advocate for the life of the unborn or is the 
person deciding *not in my womb* ?
 Service and compassion? Is the woman killing her unborn child offering either?
  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 
You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.


   From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

---In FairfieldLife@ya

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Really?  Relationships take work Mike and "faith without works is dead," as 
they say.  I find it ironic how you can judge the woman who has an abortion 
(maybe because she believes she can't "afford" it, lets just say) and get all 
righteous behind: your brand of interpretation of scripture; what the 
Constitution was intending; and, the reasoning that the woman has a inviolable 
responsibility to forward that particular soul's "karma" (Ever thought about 
the idea that the soul, should it be ready to incarnate, could be perfectly 
accepting in respecting the answer of "no" of whom it has "asked" and be 
willing to be hosted by another?)and in almost the same breath, you 
blame and denigrate and rail against the mother who agrees to risk having the 
child, if she doesn't meet *your* standards.  Who are you to think you should 
play God!  Jesus was about service to others' Mike.  Maybe, take that 
relationship to your heart and put some of your hard earned retirement time 
where your mouth is and exercise that other quality that Jesus has—compassion.  
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   
 Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.
 Karma's a bitch!



 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 

 You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
 Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.
 ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto those that call good bad and bad good.


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ollie, one can get hung up in *religion* or hung up in a relationship with the 
Almighty. Scripture can help you do either one.I'll take the relationship one.

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 
You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.


   From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :


JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto 
those that call good bad and bad good.
  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is sinless, 
and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an action. 
It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, needing no 
interference from the self-righteous and anti-social e

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yep, I understand your point, Mike. If I believed as you do, what you have 
written below, I would feel quite a commitment to "save" others also. I mean 
that with all respect for your faith. Equally so, I hope you can accept that I 
see it as opinion and interpretation, even the biblical prophet bit that many 
accept as truth with a capital "T". Sounds like a great way to answer every 
question - for yourself and others so inclined. 
 

 However, there are many many paths to God, and yours is simply one of them. 
Please let the rest of us find our own way too. It is eminently possible to 
live a good, moral, God loving life, without the Christian faith, or any of 
them, actually. There is also no universal requirement to take Jesus Christ as 
one's savior, though he apparently serves in that role for quite a few people. 
I am not knocking it, just saying that this is not a *requirement* for a 
spiritually oriented life.
 

 I see any religion as more a personal preference, though exposure to religion 
is very useful, so that we have a choice to adopt a strong identification with 
it, or not. Religion also exposes us to the many ways we can approach God, for 
example, prayer, hymns, and meditating. At this time in my life, I choose not 
to follow (or oppose) any religion, and focus my efforts on directly enjoying 
God's creation, instead. No subtitles.:-)
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.

 
 Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.
 Karma's a bitch!



 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   
 You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 

 You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
 Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.
 ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto those that call good bad and bad good.


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

 

 So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
 

 By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is 
sinless, and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an 
action. It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, 
needing no interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in 
this country. This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for 
maximum guilt-tripping. How can something unable to exist in the world be 
murdered? Makes no sense, and is simply mental gymnastics employed for this 
repressive thinking. More medieval thinking.
 

 It amazes me that this is even an is

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Think on this Anne. I was once present when Maharishi was asked if there would 
be any karmic difference in eating yogurt if the bacteria in yogurt was of the 
animal kingdom or the plant kingdom. He looked very serious and said "yes and 
it would be worth knowing( if the bacteria was animal or plant)" Evidently he 
had never given yogurt any thought concerning the matter.
 

 While I give MMY all due respect, his word doesn't mean much in my life or my 
world. While I am happy to hear what he might have to say about yogurt, he 
doesn't appear to have much insight based on your account here.
 

  How much more value is the life of an innocent human being over that of 
yogurt bacteria?
 

 I can't answer that question, just as I can't make a value judgement about 
what "value" innocence has or what that word really even means. Does an 
"innocent" human being have more value than a non-innocent one? Is it not as 
bad to kill a non-innocent human?
 

 If you will recall the talk about the woman that had an affair with Maharishi, 
she asked him what should she do if she ever got pregnant by him and his 
response was "get married, quickly!" But not to him. I think he indicated that 
he would arrange something. But he certainly didn't advise an abortion as I 
recall. Even though he could have to save his reputation.
 

 Having an abortion might ruin his reputation more, who knows? I know nothing 
about this woman. Did she have the child? Does that child know who its father 
is? Do you think Maharishi advising having the baby but disowning it makes him 
a better person than if he had advised an abortion?
 

 Anne, you could justify Hitler's murder of the Jews as *life sustaining* for 
the future of the Third Reich by your logic!
 

 Not by my logic but, evidently, by yours. We're talking about a fetus vs 
fully-formed, functioning human beings, ie Jews. I'm not talking about the 
Third Reich, I'm talking about the mother, another fully-formed functioning 
human being. Her well-being may be at stake here with reference to her choice 
to terminate or not terminate the life of a developing fetus.
 

  Killing an innocent life is not life supporting or sustaining for anyone.
 

 That's a pretty big blanket statement, again, what constitutes "innocent", I 
have to ask again - not to mention, how could you possibly know or conceive of 
all of the ways in which killing someone (even an undeveloped person - fetus) 
might result in something warranted or necessary or good?
 

 Not the one killed because their life has been unjustly taken and not for the 
one killing because that karma will come back to haunt them and possibly at the 
worst time.
 

 Perhaps, if one were to actually believe in something called "karma".
 

  Put in simplest of terms, you have an abortion because the last thing you 
need in life is another mouth to feed.
 

 Huh? I think there are a whole shwack of other reasons why women have 
abortions - you make it sound so superficial and selfish.
 

  You die later and when it's your time to come back and perhaps there is 
someone waiting for you that could change the direction of your eternal life, a 
real savior, a master with important knowledge for you, a once in a million 
shot, waiting for you but you reap your karma from the last human experience 
and you are aborted before your destiny can be fulfilled. Hey, life's a bitch 
and then you die! Just so you didn;t have to raise a child that you didn't want.

 

 Again, if there is, in fact, reincarnation, karma and enlightened Masters. I'm 
not convinced about any of it.
 

 If one is going to err, it is better to err on the side of life, not 
convenience or not being responsible for your actions.

 

 Again, you assume much about the reason(s) why women might chose to terminate 
a growing life. Let's just throw out, randomly, a few other reasons why one 
might want to have an abortion - just for shits and giggles:
 

 Your father raped you
 You are 11 years old and were raped by your brother or someone else
 You were raped by someone with AIDS
 You become pregnant and early testing detects very serious birth defects in 
the fetus
 You have 6 children, are living in a shack in a third world country, the 
husband and father is a violent alcoholic who regularly beats and sodomizes you 
and your offspring
 Your health is such that having a child might kill you
 You are HIV positive
 

 

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

BTW Ollie,a Biblical Prophet is one who is ordained by God Almighty to be His 
spokesperson. This verse clearly says that Jeremiah is God's messenger to the 
Gentiles, the Nations, non Jews. He clearly says that it is He that forms us in 
our mothers womb and that He knew you before He started and that He has a plan 
for your life. If you interfere in that plan by killing someone that He is 
creating for His purposes, that is the ultimate evil. That is Satanic/Demonic.
Isaiah says  *woe*, that is great grief, suffering and trouble for those that 
can't distinguish right from wrong and confuse the two.Karma's a bitch!

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 6:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 
You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
  
    "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :


JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto 
those that call good bad and bad good.
  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is sinless, 
and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an action. 
It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, needing no 
interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in this country. 
This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for maximum 
guilt-tripping. How can something unable to exist in the world be murdered? 
Makes no sense, and is simply mental gymnastics employed for this repressive 
thinking. More medieval thinking.
It amazes me that this is even an issue in 2016. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

No Ollie, it's not OK. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men 
are are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
unalienable rights, among them are *LIFE*, Liberty and the pursuit of 
happiness." OK?
It's not her body. That can be proven with a simple DNA test.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yo, those two objects between your legs are referred to as "testicles", not 
"ovaries", so I hate to break it to you, but you will never be able to give 
birth, or have an abortion. Therefore your opinion on abortion is about as 
meaningless as if you had one on breast pumps. Nothing personal, but I think it 
is a good idea if we each stick to opinions on our own equipment, period. 
Otherwise, it just sounds mean-spirited, sexist, anti-social, arrogant, 
selfish, and dictatorial, OK?
The other side of that single parent coin: Yeah, there is a breakdown of the 
family, in line with stagnation of wages, union busting, jobs going overseas, 
the economic destruction of the middle class, etc. making the option for a 
stay-at-home parent very difficult, or impossible. Once both parents were 
required to work, it became much more difficult to ra

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You quote Samuel Clemence and I quote the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. 
You brought up religion with your justifications of abortion and deeming 
interference with a woman's right to choose as sin. 
My original argument was purely constitutional.


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    "Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :


JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto 
those that call good bad and bad good.
  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is sinless, 
and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an action. 
It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, needing no 
interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in this country. 
This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for maximum 
guilt-tripping. How can something unable to exist in the world be murdered? 
Makes no sense, and is simply mental gymnastics employed for this repressive 
thinking. More medieval thinking.
It amazes me that this is even an issue in 2016. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

No Ollie, it's not OK. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men 
are are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
unalienable rights, among them are *LIFE*, Liberty and the pursuit of 
happiness." OK?
It's not her body. That can be proven with a simple DNA test.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 Yo, those two objects between your legs are referred to as "testicles", not 
"ovaries", so I hate to break it to you, but you will never be able to give 
birth, or have an abortion. Therefore your opinion on abortion is about as 
meaningless as if you had one on breast pumps. Nothing personal, but I think it 
is a good idea if we each stick to opinions on our own equipment, period. 
Otherwise, it just sounds mean-spirited, sexist, anti-social, arrogant, 
selfish, and dictatorial, OK?
The other side of that single parent coin: Yeah, there is a breakdown of the 
family, in line with stagnation of wages, union busting, jobs going overseas, 
the economic destruction of the middle class, etc. making the option for a 
stay-at-home parent very difficult, or impossible. Once both parents were 
required to work, it became much more difficult to raise families - day care is 
very expensive. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Chill Anne, nobody blamed Hillary for kids being screwed up. Of course dead 
beat dads share the blame. They are the ones producing the overwhelming 
majority of these punks that get in trouble and end up in prison.Chances are, 
they never had any significant part in raising the kid, monetarily or guidance 
wise.
As for the moms, many probably aren't much better than either of the girls in 
the video. Again, because they never had adequate guidance growing up from mom 
or dad.Of course, they have ample access to birth control these days, even the 
big *A*(abortion) that I'm 100% against. There's no excuse for 50% or better  
of children being born out of wedlock and then expecting society to raise them 
while mom keeps knocking out more of the same and continues to compound the 
problem.
But then, I 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Think on this Anne. I was once present when Maharishi was asked if there would 
be any karmic difference in eating yogurt if the bacteria in yogurt was of the 
animal kingdom or the plant kingdom. He looked very serious and said "yes and 
it would be worth knowing( if the bacteria was animal or plant)" Evidently he 
had never given yogurt any thought concerning the matter. How much more value 
is the life of an innocent human being over that of yogurt bacteria?If you will 
recall the talk about the woman that had an affair with Maharishi, she asked 
him what should she do if she ever got pregnant by him and his response was 
"get married, quickly!" But not to him. I think he indicated that he would 
arrange something. But he certainly didn't advise an abortion as I recall. Even 
though he could have to save his reputation.Anne, you could justify Hitler's 
murder of the Jews as *life sustaining* for the future of the Third Reich by 
your logic! Killing an innocent life is not life supporting or sustaining for 
anyone. Not the one killed because their life has been unjustly taken and not 
for the one killing because that karma will come back to haunt them and 
possibly at the worst time. Put in simplest of terms, you have an abortion 
because the last thing you need in life is another mouth to feed. You die later 
and when it's your time to come back and perhaps there is someone waiting for 
you that could change the direction of your eternal life, a real savior, a 
master with important knowledge for you, a once in a million shot, waiting for 
you but you reap your karma from the last human experience and you are aborted 
before your destiny can be fulfilled. Hey, life's a bitch and then you die! 
Just so you didn;t have to raise a child that you didn't want.
If one is going to err, it is better to err on the side of life, not 
convenience or not being responsible for your actions.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :


JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto 
those that call good bad and bad good.

It can go both ways, Mike. You call abortion "bad" so follow this to the 
conclusion of your Isaiah quote ("good" and "bad" just might be relative here). 
Abortion is not life sustaining for the fetus, the unformed human, but could be 
"sustaining and supporting" for the mother. Think outside the box, Mike.  From: 
"olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is sinless, 
and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an action. 
It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, needing no 
interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in this country. 
This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for maximum 
guilt-tripping. How can something unable to exist in the world be murdered? 
Makes no sense, and is simply mental gymnastics employed for this repressive 
thinking. More medieval thinking.
It amazes me that this is even an issue in 2016. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

No Ollie, it's not OK. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men 
are are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
unalienable rights, among them are *LIFE*, Liberty and the pursuit of 
happiness." OK?
It's not her body. That can be proven with a simple DNA test.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoog

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

"Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion" - Mark Twain

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
 Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.
 ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto those that call good bad and bad good.


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   
 It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

 

 So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
 

 By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is 
sinless, and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an 
action. It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, 
needing no interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in 
this country. This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for 
maximum guilt-tripping. How can something unable to exist in the world be 
murdered? Makes no sense, and is simply mental gymnastics employed for this 
repressive thinking. More medieval thinking.
 

 It amazes me that this is even an issue in 2016. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 No Ollie, it's not OK. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men 
are are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
unalienable rights, among them are *LIFE*, Liberty and the pursuit of 
happiness." OK?

 It's not her body. That can be proven with a simple DNA test.

 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Yo, those two objects between your legs are referred to as "testicles", not 
"ovaries", so I hate to break it to you, but you will never be able to give 
birth, or have an abortion. Therefore your opinion on abortion is about as 
meaningless as if you had one on breast pumps. Nothing personal, but I think it 
is a good idea if we each stick to opinions on our own equipment, period. 
Otherwise, it just sounds mean-spirited, sexist, anti-social, arrogant, 
selfish, and dictatorial, OK?
 

 The other side of that single parent coin: Yeah, there is a breakdown of the 
family, in line with stagnation of wages, union busting, jobs going overseas, 
the economic destruction of the middle class, etc. making the option for a 
stay-at-home parent very difficult, or impossible. Once both parents were 
required to work, it became much more difficult to raise families - day care is 
very expensive.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Chill Anne, nobody blamed Hillary for kids being screwed up.
  Of course dead beat dads share the blame. They are the ones producing the 
overwhelming majority of these punks that get in trouble and end up in prison.
 Chances are, they never had any significant part in raising the kid, 
monetarily or guidance wise.

 As for the moms, many probably aren't much better than either of the girls in 
the video. Again, because they never had adequate guidance growing up from mom 
or dad.
 Of course, they have ample access to birth control these days, even the big 
*A*(abortion) that I'm 100% against. There's no excuse for 50% or better  of 
children being born out of wedlock and then expecting society to raise them 
while mom keeps knocking out more of the same and continues to compound the 
problem.
 

 But then, I guess we can always blame McDonalds and Burger King for not 
raising the minimum wage to $15.


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well... it already is and she's not pres

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
 Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.
 ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto those that call good bad and bad good.

 

 It can go both ways, Mike. You call abortion "bad" so follow this to the 
conclusion of your Isaiah quote ("good" and "bad" just might be relative here). 
Abortion is not life sustaining for the fetus, the unformed human, but could be 
"sustaining and supporting" for the mother. Think outside the box, Mike.

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   
 It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

 

 So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
 

 By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is 
sinless, and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an 
action. It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, 
needing no interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in 
this country. This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for 
maximum guilt-tripping. How can something unable to exist in the world be 
murdered? Makes no sense, and is simply mental gymnastics employed for this 
repressive thinking. More medieval thinking.
 

 It amazes me that this is even an issue in 2016. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 No Ollie, it's not OK. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men 
are are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
unalienable rights, among them are *LIFE*, Liberty and the pursuit of 
happiness." OK?

 It's not her body. That can be proven with a simple DNA test.

 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   Yo, those two objects between your legs are referred to as "testicles", not 
"ovaries", so I hate to break it to you, but you will never be able to give 
birth, or have an abortion. Therefore your opinion on abortion is about as 
meaningless as if you had one on breast pumps. Nothing personal, but I think it 
is a good idea if we each stick to opinions on our own equipment, period. 
Otherwise, it just sounds mean-spirited, sexist, anti-social, arrogant, 
selfish, and dictatorial, OK?
 

 The other side of that single parent coin: Yeah, there is a breakdown of the 
family, in line with stagnation of wages, union busting, jobs going overseas, 
the economic destruction of the middle class, etc. making the option for a 
stay-at-home parent very difficult, or impossible. Once both parents were 
required to work, it became much more difficult to raise families - day care is 
very expensive.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Chill Anne, nobody blamed Hillary for kids being screwed up.
  Of course dead beat dads share the blame. They are the ones producing the 
overwhelming majority of these punks that get in trouble and end up in prison.
 Chances are, they never had any significant part in raising the kid, 
monetarily or guidance wise.

 As for the moms, many probably aren't much better than either of the girls in 
the video. Again, because they never had adequate guidance growing up from mom 
or dad.
 Of course, they have ample access to birth control these days, even the big 
*A*(abortion) that I'm 100% against. There's no excuse for 50% or better  of 
children being born out of wedlock and then expecting society to raise them 
while mom keeps knocking out more of the same and continues to compound the 
problem.
 

 But then, I guess we can always blame McDonalds and Burger King for not 
raising the minimum wage to $15.


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoog

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

JEREMIAH 1:5  I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb. Before you 
were born I set you apart and appointed you as my prophet to the nations.
Abortion is clearly not life sustaining or supporting.ISAIAH 5:20 Woe unto 
those that call good bad and bad good.
  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born 
as a human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that 
embryo any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, 
no foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is sinless, 
and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an action. 
It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, needing no 
interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in this country. 
This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for maximum 
guilt-tripping. How can something unable to exist in the world be murdered? 
Makes no sense, and is simply mental gymnastics employed for this repressive 
thinking. More medieval thinking.
It amazes me that this is even an issue in 2016. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

No Ollie, it's not OK. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men 
are are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
unalienable rights, among them are *LIFE*, Liberty and the pursuit of 
happiness." OK?
It's not her body. That can be proven with a simple DNA test.

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 Yo, those two objects between your legs are referred to as "testicles", not 
"ovaries", so I hate to break it to you, but you will never be able to give 
birth, or have an abortion. Therefore your opinion on abortion is about as 
meaningless as if you had one on breast pumps. Nothing personal, but I think it 
is a good idea if we each stick to opinions on our own equipment, period. 
Otherwise, it just sounds mean-spirited, sexist, anti-social, arrogant, 
selfish, and dictatorial, OK?
The other side of that single parent coin: Yeah, there is a breakdown of the 
family, in line with stagnation of wages, union busting, jobs going overseas, 
the economic destruction of the middle class, etc. making the option for a 
stay-at-home parent very difficult, or impossible. Once both parents were 
required to work, it became much more difficult to raise families - day care is 
very expensive. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Chill Anne, nobody blamed Hillary for kids being screwed up. Of course dead 
beat dads share the blame. They are the ones producing the overwhelming 
majority of these punks that get in trouble and end up in prison.Chances are, 
they never had any significant part in raising the kid, monetarily or guidance 
wise.
As for the moms, many probably aren't much better than either of the girls in 
the video. Again, because they never had adequate guidance growing up from mom 
or dad.Of course, they have ample access to birth control these days, even the 
big *A*(abortion) that I'm 100% against. There's no excuse for 50% or better  
of children being born out of wedlock and then expecting society to raise them 
while mom keeps knocking out more of the same and continues to compound the 
problem.
But then, I guess we can always blame McDonalds and Burger King for not raising 
the minimum wage to $15.
  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.I don't know what people 
expect when you have so many kids growing up in single parent households. It's 
kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids like this usually are never 
taught 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It is clearly the woman's vessel that carries the embryo until it is born as a 
human being, and she certainly has the inalienable right to treat that embryo 
any way she chooses to, including the choice to get rid of it. No harm, no 
foul, no sin, and no problem, unless the men decide to make it one, which of 
course goes against the will of God. 

 

 So you see, by opposing a woman's right to an abortion it is you who commits 
the sin, by denying her freedom. Those preaching this anti-abortion message are 
the great sinners, the ones that deny God the freedom he gave each of us. So, 
Mike, please go forth and sin no more. Men denying women the right to an 
abortion is clearly a massive sin under God, and always will be. There will 
never be a sane justification to do so.
 

 By the same token, a woman choosing an abortion for whatever reason is 
sinless, and will always be. The notion of sin doesn't even enter into such an 
action. It is completely morally justified and a very very personal choice, 
needing no interference from the self-righteous and anti-social elements in 
this country. This argument that it is "murder" is so crazy, and designed for 
maximum guilt-tripping. How can something unable to exist in the world be 
murdered? Makes no sense, and is simply mental gymnastics employed for this 
repressive thinking. More medieval thinking.
 

 It amazes me that this is even an issue in 2016. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 No Ollie, it's not OK. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men 
are are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
unalienable rights, among them are *LIFE*, Liberty and the pursuit of 
happiness." OK?

 It's not her body. That can be proven with a simple DNA test.

 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Yo, those two objects between your legs are referred to as "testicles", not 
"ovaries", so I hate to break it to you, but you will never be able to give 
birth, or have an abortion. Therefore your opinion on abortion is about as 
meaningless as if you had one on breast pumps. Nothing personal, but I think it 
is a good idea if we each stick to opinions on our own equipment, period. 
Otherwise, it just sounds mean-spirited, sexist, anti-social, arrogant, 
selfish, and dictatorial, OK?
 

 The other side of that single parent coin: Yeah, there is a breakdown of the 
family, in line with stagnation of wages, union busting, jobs going overseas, 
the economic destruction of the middle class, etc. making the option for a 
stay-at-home parent very difficult, or impossible. Once both parents were 
required to work, it became much more difficult to raise families - day care is 
very expensive.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Chill Anne, nobody blamed Hillary for kids being screwed up.
  Of course dead beat dads share the blame. They are the ones producing the 
overwhelming majority of these punks that get in trouble and end up in prison.
 Chances are, they never had any significant part in raising the kid, 
monetarily or guidance wise.

 As for the moms, many probably aren't much better than either of the girls in 
the video. Again, because they never had adequate guidance growing up from mom 
or dad.
 Of course, they have ample access to birth control these days, even the big 
*A*(abortion) that I'm 100% against. There's no excuse for 50% or better  of 
children being born out of wedlock and then expecting society to raise them 
while mom keeps knocking out more of the same and continues to compound the 
problem.
 

 But then, I guess we can always blame McDonalds and Burger King for not 
raising the minimum wage to $15.


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.
 I don't know what people expect when you have so many kids growing up in 
single parent households. It's kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids 
like this usually are never taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict 
resolution. They grow up with a minimum of supervision, lacking authority 
figures close to them to teach them social skills. As they grow up, they 
produce the same, if not worse. It's a vicious downward cycle that's becoming 
more and more the norm. I guess TM taught in schools might offer some help to 
these kids but the trick is, that they need to want to do it. Most of these 
kids seem to lack any kind of self 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No Ollie, it's not OK. "We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men 
are are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
unalienable rights, among them are *LIFE*, Liberty and the pursuit of 
happiness." OK?
It's not her body. That can be proven with a simple DNA test.

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Yo, those two objects between your legs are referred to as "testicles", not 
"ovaries", so I hate to break it to you, but you will never be able to give 
birth, or have an abortion. Therefore your opinion on abortion is about as 
meaningless as if you had one on breast pumps. Nothing personal, but I think it 
is a good idea if we each stick to opinions on our own equipment, period. 
Otherwise, it just sounds mean-spirited, sexist, anti-social, arrogant, 
selfish, and dictatorial, OK?
The other side of that single parent coin: Yeah, there is a breakdown of the 
family, in line with stagnation of wages, union busting, jobs going overseas, 
the economic destruction of the middle class, etc. making the option for a 
stay-at-home parent very difficult, or impossible. Once both parents were 
required to work, it became much more difficult to raise families - day care is 
very expensive. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Chill Anne, nobody blamed Hillary for kids being screwed up. Of course dead 
beat dads share the blame. They are the ones producing the overwhelming 
majority of these punks that get in trouble and end up in prison.Chances are, 
they never had any significant part in raising the kid, monetarily or guidance 
wise.
As for the moms, many probably aren't much better than either of the girls in 
the video. Again, because they never had adequate guidance growing up from mom 
or dad.Of course, they have ample access to birth control these days, even the 
big *A*(abortion) that I'm 100% against. There's no excuse for 50% or better  
of children being born out of wedlock and then expecting society to raise them 
while mom keeps knocking out more of the same and continues to compound the 
problem.
But then, I guess we can always blame McDonalds and Burger King for not raising 
the minimum wage to $15.
  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.I don't know what people 
expect when you have so many kids growing up in single parent households. It's 
kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids like this usually are never 
taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict resolution. They grow up with 
a minimum of supervision, lacking authority figures close to them to teach them 
social skills. As they grow up, they produce the same, if not worse. It's a 
vicious downward cycle that's becoming more and more the norm. I guess TM 
taught in schools might offer some help to these kids but the trick is, that 
they need to want to do it. Most of these kids seem to lack any kind of self 
discipline. Sitting down for 15-20 minutes twice a day might be more than they 
can handle and for the most part, too fucking boring. Hell, they could be 
beating up some kid, taking their lunch money and buying a dime bag!

Good Lord, I think I've woken up to a FFL that has really lost its mind this 
time... Yes, let's blame Hillary for this and blame single-parent families for 
ignorant children or those who act out, become hellions. Of course, you seem to 
assume  that most single-parent families are headed by women (those good-for 
nothing deadbeat dads just love to run off and knock up someone else while high 
on some drug or other) - so let's add their lack of parenting ability to the 
list.

  From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:30 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

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Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yo, those two objects between your legs are referred to as "testicles", not 
"ovaries", so I hate to break it to you, but you will never be able to give 
birth, or have an abortion. Therefore your opinion on abortion is about as 
meaningless as if you had one on breast pumps. Nothing personal, but I think it 
is a good idea if we each stick to opinions on our own equipment, period. 
Otherwise, it just sounds mean-spirited, sexist, anti-social, arrogant, 
selfish, and dictatorial, OK? 

 The other side of that single parent coin: Yeah, there is a breakdown of the 
family, in line with stagnation of wages, union busting, jobs going overseas, 
the economic destruction of the middle class, etc. making the option for a 
stay-at-home parent very difficult, or impossible. Once both parents were 
required to work, it became much more difficult to raise families - day care is 
very expensive.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Chill Anne, nobody blamed Hillary for kids being screwed up.
  Of course dead beat dads share the blame. They are the ones producing the 
overwhelming majority of these punks that get in trouble and end up in prison.
 Chances are, they never had any significant part in raising the kid, 
monetarily or guidance wise.

 As for the moms, many probably aren't much better than either of the girls in 
the video. Again, because they never had adequate guidance growing up from mom 
or dad.
 Of course, they have ample access to birth control these days, even the big 
*A*(abortion) that I'm 100% against. There's no excuse for 50% or better  of 
children being born out of wedlock and then expecting society to raise them 
while mom keeps knocking out more of the same and continues to compound the 
problem.
 

 But then, I guess we can always blame McDonalds and Burger King for not 
raising the minimum wage to $15.


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.
 I don't know what people expect when you have so many kids growing up in 
single parent households. It's kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids 
like this usually are never taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict 
resolution. They grow up with a minimum of supervision, lacking authority 
figures close to them to teach them social skills. As they grow up, they 
produce the same, if not worse. It's a vicious downward cycle that's becoming 
more and more the norm. I guess TM taught in schools might offer some help to 
these kids but the trick is, that they need to want to do it. Most of these 
kids seem to lack any kind of self discipline. Sitting down for 15-20 minutes 
twice a day might be more than they can handle and for the most part, too 
fucking boring. Hell, they could be beating up some kid, taking their lunch 
money and buying a dime bag!

 

 Good Lord, I think I've woken up to a FFL that has really lost its mind this 
time... Yes, let's blame Hillary for this and blame single-parent families for 
ignorant children or those who act out, become hellions. Of course, you seem to 
assume  that most single-parent families are headed by women (those good-for 
nothing deadbeat dads just love to run off and knock up someone else while high 
on some drug or other) - so let's add their lack of parenting ability to the 
list.
 
 


 From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:30 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 ... under Hillary presidency?
 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You don't appear to be listening Mike. :) This article on the principles of 
meditative listening is very good.   

 
http://files.ctctcdn.com/338853b9001/e36e558f-b058-4974-b9a4-9dcfadd1ec08.pdf?ver=1461889277000
 
http://files.ctctcdn.com/338853b9001/e36e558f-b058-4974-b9a4-9dcfadd1ec08.pdf?ver=1461889277000
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 So now I'm supposed to pay for someone's tubal ligation or vasectomy.  
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   Repair and repeat."You have something to give back to the country and 
people and for the opportunities that allowed you to retire comfortably.  What 
is it?"   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 This woman, now a police detective (Kim Bogucki) was a mom down the street and 
I went to her house as a kid after school for awhile when my Ma was working.  

 If the situation of single-parent households upsets you, perhaps you should 
volunteer yourself to do some good, instead of sitting on your rear end, 
judging and blaming.  Most kids who grew up in households without discipline 
craved discipline and wished they had a family that required them to come home 
for dinner at 6—they wish they had someone in their lives growing up who cared 
enough.  
 

 You continue to err in assigning blame to "single parent households" as a 
categorical reason for what you describe below.  A simplistic justification 
that allows you to sit back in your Christian/Hindu armchair, and demonize, 
dehumanize and blame the category.  You could stop pussyfooting around and 
actually get involved somewhere; you'd be surprised how a desire to do good 
(instead of just mentally masturbating on it) and how hands on, real  life 
experience might broaden your perspective.  You have something to give back to 
the country and people and opportunities that allowed you to retire comfortably 
in your retirement.  What is it?

 Purdy’s female inmates peel back layers of raw emotion | Real Change 
http://realchangenews.org/2009/07/29/purdy-s-female-inmates-peel-back-layers-raw-emotion
 
 
 Purdy’s female inmates peel back layers of raw emotion | Real Change 
http://realchangenews.org/2009/07/29/purdy-s-female-inmates-peel-back-layers-raw-emotion
 Filomena Washington was looking for a place where she belonged, for people she 
fit in with.


 
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 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 No matter what background the Purdy inmates came from -- some from poverty and 
others from wealthy Microsoft families, Bogucki says -- the common thread in 
the women's essays is "the lack of a positive role model in their life, the 
lack of a person that who would actually just listen."

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.
 I don't know what people expect when you have so many kids growing up in 
single parent households. It's kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids 
like this usually are never taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict 
resolution. They grow up with a minimum of supervision, lacking authority 
figures close to them to teach them social skills. As they grow up, they 
produce the same, if not worse. It's a vicious downward cycle that's becoming 
more and more the norm. I guess TM taught in schools might offer some help to 
these kids but the trick is, that they need to want to do it. Most of these 
kids seem to lack any kind of self discipline. Sitting down for 15-20 minutes 
twice a day might be more than they can handle and for the most part, too 
fucking boring. Hell, they could be beating up some kid, taking their lunch 
money and buying a dime bag!

 
 


 From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:30 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

 
   
 ... under Hillary presidency?
 

 Thug Bully Corners White Girl At School, Wants To Do More Than Hold Hands 
(VIDEO) ⋆ Freedom Daily 
http://freedomdaily.com/thug-bully-corners-white-girl-at-school-wants-to-do-more-than-hold-hands-video/

 
 
 
http://freedomdaily.com/thug-bully-corners-white-girl-at-school-wants-to-do-more-than-hold-hands-video/
 
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 This Video is going viral after a black bully decided to corner a white girl 
on a playground while in the company of her cohorts


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

So now I'm supposed to pay for someone's tubal ligation or vasectomy.  


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    Repair and repeat."You have something to give back to the country and 
people and for the opportunities that allowed you to retire comfortably.  What 
is it?"   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

This woman, now a police detective (Kim Bogucki) was a mom down the street and 
I went to her house as a kid after school for awhile when my Ma was working. 
If the situation of single-parent households upsets you, perhaps you should 
volunteer yourself to do some good, instead of sitting on your rear end, 
judging and blaming.  Most kids who grew up in households without discipline 
craved discipline and wished they had a family that required them to come home 
for dinner at 6—they wish they had someone in their lives growing up who cared 
enough.  
You continue to err in assigning blame to "single parent households" as a 
categorical reason for what you describe below.  A simplistic justification 
that allows you to sit back in your Christian/Hindu armchair, and demonize, 
dehumanize and blame the category.  You could stop pussyfooting around and 
actually get involved somewhere; you'd be surprised how a desire to do good 
(instead of just mentally masturbating on it) and how hands on, real  life 
experience might broaden your perspective.  You have something to give back to 
the country and people and opportunities that allowed you to retire comfortably 
in your retirement.  What is it?   
Purdy’s female inmates peel back layers of raw emotion | Real Change
|  |
|  | Purdy’s female inmates peel back layers of raw emotion | Real Change 
Filomena Washington was looking for a place where she belonged, for people she 
fit in with. |  |
| View on realchangenews.org|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |

  No matter what background the Purdy inmates came from -- some from poverty 
and others from wealthy Microsoft families, Bogucki says -- the common thread 
in the women's essays is "the lack of a positive role model in their life, the 
lack of a person that who would actually just listen."


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.I don't know what people 
expect when you have so many kids growing up in single parent households. It's 
kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids like this usually are never 
taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict resolution. They grow up with 
a minimum of supervision, lacking authority figures close to them to teach them 
social skills. As they grow up, they produce the same, if not worse. It's a 
vicious downward cycle that's becoming more and more the norm. I guess TM 
taught in schools might offer some help to these kids but the trick is, that 
they need to want to do it. Most of these kids seem to lack any kind of self 
discipline. Sitting down for 15-20 minutes twice a day might be more than they 
can handle and for the most part, too fucking boring. Hell, they could be 
beating up some kid, taking their lunch money and buying a dime bag!


  From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:30 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 ... under Hillary presidency?
Thug Bully Corners White Girl At School, Wants To Do More Than Hold Hands 
(VIDEO) ⋆ Freedom Daily

|  |
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.I don't know what people 
expect when you have so many kids growing up in single parent households. It's 
kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids like this usually are never 
taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict resolution. They grow up with 
a minimum of supervision, lacking authority figures close to them to teach them 
social skills. As they grow up, they produce the same, if not worse. It's a 
vicious downward cycle that's becoming more and more the norm. I guess TM 
taught in schools might offer some help to these kids but the trick is, that 
they need to want to do it. Most of these kids seem to lack any kind of self 
discipline. Sitting down for 15-20 minutes twice a day might be more than they 
can handle and for the most part, too fucking boring. Hell, they could be 
beati

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Emily, I was stating the facts. People wonder why we have so much crime and 
violence in society. This is part of the problem, the break down of the 
traditional family, two parents raising children responsibly. Generally 
speaking, it's too difficult for one parent to raise children successfully. 
Pointing that out seems to cramp some people's style. If you can't recognize 
the problem and face it, you can't fix it.

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    This woman, now a police detective (Kim Bogucki) was a mom down the street 
and I went to her house as a kid after school for awhile when my Ma was 
working. 
If the situation of single-parent households upsets you, perhaps you should 
volunteer yourself to do some good, instead of sitting on your rear end, 
judging and blaming.  Most kids who grew up in households without discipline 
craved discipline and wished they had a family that required them to come home 
for dinner at 6—they wish they had someone in their lives growing up who cared 
enough.  
You continue to err in assigning blame to "single parent households" as a 
categorical reason for what you describe below.  A simplistic justification 
that allows you to sit back in your Christian/Hindu armchair, and demonize, 
dehumanize and blame the category.  You could stop pussyfooting around and 
actually get involved somewhere; you'd be surprised how a desire to do good 
(instead of just mentally masturbating on it) and how hands on, real  life 
experience might broaden your perspective.  You have something to give back to 
the country and people and opportunities that allowed you to retire comfortably 
in your retirement.  What is it?   
Purdy’s female inmates peel back layers of raw emotion | Real Change 
||
||   Purdy’s female inmates peel back layers of raw emotion | Real 
Change  Filomena Washington was looking for a place where she belonged, for 
people she fit in with. ||
|  View on realchangenews.org  |Preview by Yahoo|
||

   No matter what background the Purdy inmates came from -- some from poverty 
and others from wealthy Microsoft families, Bogucki says -- the common thread 
in the women's essays is "the lack of a positive role model in their life, the 
lack of a person that who would actually just listen."


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.I don't know what people 
expect when you have so many kids growing up in single parent households. It's 
kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids like this usually are never 
taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict resolution. They grow up with 
a minimum of supervision, lacking authority figures close to them to teach them 
social skills. As they grow up, they produce the same, if not worse. It's a 
vicious downward cycle that's becoming more and more the norm. I guess TM 
taught in schools might offer some help to these kids but the trick is, that 
they need to want to do it. Most of these kids seem to lack any kind of self 
discipline. Sitting down for 15-20 minutes twice a day might be more than they 
can handle and for the most part, too fucking boring. Hell, they could be 
beating up some kid, taking their lunch money and buying a dime bag!


  From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:30 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 ... under Hillary presidency?
Thug Bully Corners White Girl At School, Wants To Do More Than Hold Hands 
(VIDEO) ⋆ Freedom Daily

|  |
|  | |  | Thug Bully Corners White Girl At School, Wants To Do Mor... 
This Video is going viral after a black bully decided to corner a white girl on 
a playground while in the company of her cohorts |  |
| View on freedomdaily.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |





 

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.I don't know what people 
expect when you have so many kids growing up in single parent households. It's 
kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids like this usually are never 
taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict resolution. They grow up with 
a minimum of supervision, lacking authority figures close to them to teach them 
social skills. As they grow up, they produce the same, if not worse. It's a 
vicious downward cycle that's becoming more and more the norm. I guess TM 
taught in schools might offer some help to these kids but the trick is, that 
they need to want to do it. Most of these kids seem to lack any kind of self 
discipline. Sitting down f

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Chill Anne, nobody blamed Hillary for kids being screwed up. Of course dead 
beat dads share the blame. They are the ones producing the overwhelming 
majority of these punks that get in trouble and end up in prison.Chances are, 
they never had any significant part in raising the kid, monetarily or guidance 
wise.
As for the moms, many probably aren't much better than either of the girls in 
the video. Again, because they never had adequate guidance growing up from mom 
or dad.Of course, they have ample access to birth control these days, even the 
big *A*(abortion) that I'm 100% against. There's no excuse for 50% or better  
of children being born out of wedlock and then expecting society to raise them 
while mom keeps knocking out more of the same and continues to compound the 
problem.
But then, I guess we can always blame McDonalds and Burger King for not raising 
the minimum wage to $15.
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.I don't know what people 
expect when you have so many kids growing up in single parent households. It's 
kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids like this usually are never 
taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict resolution. They grow up with 
a minimum of supervision, lacking authority figures close to them to teach them 
social skills. As they grow up, they produce the same, if not worse. It's a 
vicious downward cycle that's becoming more and more the norm. I guess TM 
taught in schools might offer some help to these kids but the trick is, that 
they need to want to do it. Most of these kids seem to lack any kind of self 
discipline. Sitting down for 15-20 minutes twice a day might be more than they 
can handle and for the most part, too fucking boring. Hell, they could be 
beating up some kid, taking their lunch money and buying a dime bag!

Good Lord, I think I've woken up to a FFL that has really lost its mind this 
time... Yes, let's blame Hillary for this and blame single-parent families for 
ignorant children or those who act out, become hellions. Of course, you seem to 
assume  that most single-parent families are headed by women (those good-for 
nothing deadbeat dads just love to run off and knock up someone else while high 
on some drug or other) - so let's add their lack of parenting ability to the 
list.

  From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:30 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 ... under Hillary presidency?
Thug Bully Corners White Girl At School, Wants To Do More Than Hold Hands 
(VIDEO) ⋆ Freedom Daily

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|  | |  | Thug Bully Corners White Girl At School, Wants To Do Mor... 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Repair and repeat."You have something to give back to the country and 
people and for the opportunities that allowed you to retire comfortably.  What 
is it?"   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This woman, now a police detective (Kim Bogucki) was a mom down the street and 
I went to her house as a kid after school for awhile when my Ma was working.  

 If the situation of single-parent households upsets you, perhaps you should 
volunteer yourself to do some good, instead of sitting on your rear end, 
judging and blaming.  Most kids who grew up in households without discipline 
craved discipline and wished they had a family that required them to come home 
for dinner at 6—they wish they had someone in their lives growing up who cared 
enough.  
 

 You continue to err in assigning blame to "single parent households" as a 
categorical reason for what you describe below.  A simplistic justification 
that allows you to sit back in your Christian/Hindu armchair, and demonize, 
dehumanize and blame the category.  You could stop pussyfooting around and 
actually get involved somewhere; you'd be surprised how a desire to do good 
(instead of just mentally masturbating on it) and how hands on, real  life 
experience might broaden your perspective.  You have something to give back to 
the country and people and opportunities that allowed you to retire comfortably 
in your retirement.  What is it?

 Purdy’s female inmates peel back layers of raw emotion | Real Change 
http://realchangenews.org/2009/07/29/purdy-s-female-inmates-peel-back-layers-raw-emotion
 
 
 Purdy’s female inmates peel back layers of raw emotion | Real Change 
http://realchangenews.org/2009/07/29/purdy-s-female-inmates-peel-back-layers-raw-emotion
 Filomena Washington was looking for a place where she belonged, for people she 
fit in with.


 
 View on realchangenews.org 
http://realchangenews.org/2009/07/29/purdy-s-female-inmates-peel-back-layers-raw-emotion
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 No matter what background the Purdy inmates came from -- some from poverty and 
others from wealthy Microsoft families, Bogucki says -- the common thread in 
the women's essays is "the lack of a positive role model in their life, the 
lack of a person that who would actually just listen."

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.
 I don't know what people expect when you have so many kids growing up in 
single parent households. It's kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids 
like this usually are never taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict 
resolution. They grow up with a minimum of supervision, lacking authority 
figures close to them to teach them social skills. As they grow up, they 
produce the same, if not worse. It's a vicious downward cycle that's becoming 
more and more the norm. I guess TM taught in schools might offer some help to 
these kids but the trick is, that they need to want to do it. Most of these 
kids seem to lack any kind of self discipline. Sitting down for 15-20 minutes 
twice a day might be more than they can handle and for the most part, too 
fucking boring. Hell, they could be beating up some kid, taking their lunch 
money and buying a dime bag!

 
 


 From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:30 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   
 ... under Hillary presidency?
 

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.
 I don't know what people expect when you have so many kids growing up in 
single parent households. It's kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids 
like this usually are never taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict 
resolution. They grow up with a minimum of supervision, lacking authority 
figures close to them to teach them social skills. As they grow up, they 
produce the same, if not worse. It's a vicious downward cycle that's becoming 
more and more the norm. I guess TM taught in 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

This woman, now a police detective (Kim Bogucki) was a mom down the street and 
I went to her house as a kid after school for awhile when my Ma was working.  

 If the situation of single-parent households upsets you, perhaps you should 
volunteer yourself to do some good, instead of sitting on your rear end, 
judging and blaming.  Most kids who grew up in households without discipline 
craved discipline and wished they had a family that required them to come home 
for dinner at 6—they wish they had someone in their lives growing up who cared 
enough.  
 

 You continue to err in assigning blame to "single parent households" as a 
categorical reason for what you describe below.  A simplistic justification 
that allows you to sit back in your Christian/Hindu armchair, and demonize, 
dehumanize and blame the category.  You could stop pussyfooting around and 
actually get involved somewhere; you'd be surprised how a desire to do good 
(instead of just mentally masturbating on it) and how hands on, real  life 
experience might broaden your perspective.  You have something to give back to 
the country and people and opportunities that allowed you to retire comfortably 
in your retirement.  What is it?

 Purdy’s female inmates peel back layers of raw emotion | Real Change 
http://realchangenews.org/2009/07/29/purdy-s-female-inmates-peel-back-layers-raw-emotion
 
 
 Purdy’s female inmates peel back layers of raw emotion | Real Change 
http://realchangenews.org/2009/07/29/purdy-s-female-inmates-peel-back-layers-raw-emotion
 Filomena Washington was looking for a place where she belonged, for people she 
fit in with. 
 
 
 
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 No matter what background the Purdy inmates came from -- some from poverty and 
others from wealthy Microsoft families, Bogucki says -- the common thread in 
the women's essays is "the lack of a positive role model in their life, the 
lack of a person that who would actually just listen."

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.
 I don't know what people expect when you have so many kids growing up in 
single parent households. It's kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids 
like this usually are never taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict 
resolution. They grow up with a minimum of supervision, lacking authority 
figures close to them to teach them social skills. As they grow up, they 
produce the same, if not worse. It's a vicious downward cycle that's becoming 
more and more the norm. I guess TM taught in schools might offer some help to 
these kids but the trick is, that they need to want to do it. Most of these 
kids seem to lack any kind of self discipline. Sitting down for 15-20 minutes 
twice a day might be more than they can handle and for the most part, too 
fucking boring. Hell, they could be beating up some kid, taking their lunch 
money and buying a dime bag!

 
 


 From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:30 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   
 ... under Hillary presidency?
 

 Thug Bully Corners White Girl At School, Wants To Do More Than Hold Hands 
(VIDEO) ⋆ Freedom Daily 
http://freedomdaily.com/thug-bully-corners-white-girl-at-school-wants-to-do-more-than-hold-hands-video/

 
 
 
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http://freedomdaily.com/thug-bully-corners-white-girl-at-school-wants-to-do-more-than-hold-hands-video/
 This Video is going viral after a black bully decided to corner a white girl 
on a playground while in the company of her cohorts


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.
 I don't know what people expect when you have so many kids growing up in 
single parent households. It's kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids 
like this usually are never taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict 
resolution. They grow up with a minimum of supervision, lacking authority 
figures close to them to teach them social skills. As they grow up, they 
produce the same, if not worse. It's a vicious downward cycle that's becoming 
more and more the norm. I guess TM taught in schools might offer some help to 
these kids but the trick is, that they need to want to do it. Most of these 
kids seem to lack any kind of self discipline. Sitting down for 15-20 minutes 
twice a day might be more than they can 

Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.
 I don't know what people expect when you have so many kids growing up in 
single parent households. It's kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids 
like this usually are never taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict 
resolution. They grow up with a minimum of supervision, lacking authority 
figures close to them to teach them social skills. As they grow up, they 
produce the same, if not worse. It's a vicious downward cycle that's becoming 
more and more the norm. I guess TM taught in schools might offer some help to 
these kids but the trick is, that they need to want to do it. Most of these 
kids seem to lack any kind of self discipline. Sitting down for 15-20 minutes 
twice a day might be more than they can handle and for the most part, too 
fucking boring. Hell, they could be beating up some kid, taking their lunch 
money and buying a dime bag!

 

 Good Lord, I think I've woken up to a FFL that has really lost its mind this 
time... Yes, let's blame Hillary for this and blame single-parent families for 
ignorant children or those who act out, become hellions. Of course, you seem to 
assume  that most single-parent families are headed by women (those good-for 
nothing deadbeat dads just love to run off and knock up someone else while high 
on some drug or other) - so let's add their lack of parenting ability to the 
list.
 
 


 From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:30 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
 
 
   
 ... under Hillary presidency?
 

 Thug Bully Corners White Girl At School, Wants To Do More Than Hold Hands 
(VIDEO) ⋆ Freedom Daily 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well... it already is and she's not president  yet.I don't know what people 
expect when you have so many kids growing up in single parent households. It's 
kind of a jungle, survival of the fittest. Kids like this usually are never 
taught any kind of effective nonviolent conflict resolution. They grow up with 
a minimum of supervision, lacking authority figures close to them to teach them 
social skills. As they grow up, they produce the same, if not worse. It's a 
vicious downward cycle that's becoming more and more the norm. I guess TM 
taught in schools might offer some help to these kids but the trick is, that 
they need to want to do it. Most of these kids seem to lack any kind of self 
discipline. Sitting down for 15-20 minutes twice a day might be more than they 
can handle and for the most part, too fucking boring. Hell, they could be 
beating up some kid, taking their lunch money and buying a dime bag!


  From: "he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:30 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is what Amerika's gonna be...
   
    ... under Hillary presidency?
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