Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
>From the subject line I think we already talked about diatomaceous earth. It's good stuff too. I used it in conjunction with the nematodes and all of it together made a big difference. Oh, nematodes can't handle the sun so put them in shady areas. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 22:55:36 -0500 > From: dlg...@windstream.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > CC: molvey...@hotmail.com > > gOT TO TRY SOJE OF THOSE LITTLE GUYS! With all the critters I have roaming > around my place, I need something. Come to think of it, all the deer, > raccoons, possumn, etc. will prbably apprecite them too, also. At least they > would not be dropping them off to get on my guys. > > > Maureen Olvey wrote: > > > > They are just called beneficial nematodes and you can get them at some > > nurseries. I got some at Pike this year. You can also order them from > > online. I ordered some from Amazon. I haven't put those out yet so I can > > testify to them. I'm a little worried they didn't survive the trip through > > the mail because they have to be kept cool and when I got the order in the > > mail the ice bag was hot so they weren't kept cool the whole time they were > > in the shipping process. I'm going to put them out this weekend but I'm a > > little leary. But the first batch I got from Pike Nurseries in late spring > > worked great. Man did it cut down on the fleas and I didn't have those > > little black ants coming in either. I think I'll be putting them down > > every year from now on. > > > > I'm not sure if they work on ticks. Seems like they would if ticks spend a > > lot of time on the ground. > > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark > > Twain > > > > > From: ho...@sonic.net > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:15:53 -0700 > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > > > > > Wow, now I have to ask...Friendly Nematodes? > > > What are they called & where do you get them! > > > ~Bonnie > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie > > > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AM > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > > > > > No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly > > > nematodes around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the > > > cats. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > > dlg...@windstream.net > > > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > > > > > I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES. > > > > > > It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place. I had > > > been using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff > > > over a river and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I > > > took Homey to vet for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood > > > also. Vet gave her a long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to > > > her normal self, but they called and said she was loaded with seed ticks. > > > I check them every time they come in and I never noticed any s now > > > everyone got a dose of tick treament. I have since found a lot of them > > > on myself, seed and regular ticks. Anyone else haeing a big problem with > > > them? > > > > > > Cindy McHugh wrote: > > > > I noticed a couple people have mentione
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
gOT TO TRY SOJE OF THOSE LITTLE GUYS! With all the critters I have roaming around my place, I need something. Come to think of it, all the deer, raccoons, possumn, etc. will prbably apprecite them too, also. At least they would not be dropping them off to get on my guys. Maureen Olvey wrote: > > They are just called beneficial nematodes and you can get them at some > nurseries. I got some at Pike this year. You can also order them from > online. I ordered some from Amazon. I haven't put those out yet so I can > testify to them. I'm a little worried they didn't survive the trip through > the mail because they have to be kept cool and when I got the order in the > mail the ice bag was hot so they weren't kept cool the whole time they were > in the shipping process. I'm going to put them out this weekend but I'm a > little leary. But the first batch I got from Pike Nurseries in late spring > worked great. Man did it cut down on the fleas and I didn't have those > little black ants coming in either. I think I'll be putting them down every > year from now on. > > I'm not sure if they work on ticks. Seems like they would if ticks spend a > lot of time on the ground. > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > From: ho...@sonic.net > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:15:53 -0700 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > > > Wow, now I have to ask...Friendly Nematodes? > > What are they called & where do you get them! > > ~Bonnie > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie > > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > > > No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly nematodes > > around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the cats. > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > dlg...@windstream.net > > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > > > I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES. > > > > It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place. I had > > been using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over > > a river and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took > > Homey to vet for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also. > > Vet gave her a long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her > > normal self, but they called and said she was loaded with seed ticks. I > > check them every time they come in and I never noticed any s now everyone > > got a dose of tick treament. I have since found a lot of them on myself, > > seed and regular ticks. Anyone else haeing a big problem with them? > > > > Cindy McHugh wrote: > > > I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for > > > dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember > > > watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal > > > Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended > > > for dogs on it. So > > > *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet > > > first about adjusting the dosage. > > > > > > Cindy & Angel Jackpot > > > > > > From: molvey...@hotmail.com > > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > > Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just > > > discussing it with my feline asthma group. > > > > > > Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a > > > cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things > > > ten times worse. I've been using R
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
Natalie Good luck with the hurricane! I hope there is no damage and no frightened cats! ~Bonnie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth I'll send the site where we order these little nematodes - but if a nursery has them, great! We used to get them from Dr. Goodpet.not sure, where we get them now. We are busily preparing for the hurricane. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth They are just called beneficial nematodes and you can get them at some nurseries. I got some at Pike this year. You can also order them from online. I ordered some from Amazon. I haven't put those out yet so I can testify to them. I'm a little worried they didn't survive the trip through the mail because they have to be kept cool and when I got the order in the mail the ice bag was hot so they weren't kept cool the whole time they were in the shipping process. I'm going to put them out this weekend but I'm a little leary. But the first batch I got from Pike Nurseries in late spring worked great. Man did it cut down on the fleas and I didn't have those little black ants coming in either. I think I'll be putting them down every year from now on. I'm not sure if they work on ticks. Seems like they would if ticks spend a lot of time on the ground. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > From: ho...@sonic.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:15:53 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > Wow, now I have to ask...Friendly Nematodes? > What are they called & where do you get them! > ~Bonnie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly nematodes around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the cats. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES. > > It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place. I had been using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over a river and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took Homey to vet for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also. Vet gave her a long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her normal self, but they called and said she was loaded with seed ticks. I check them every time they come in and I never noticed any s now everyone got a dose of tick treament. I have since found a lot of them on myself, seed and regular ticks. Anyone else haeing a big problem with them? > > Cindy McHugh wrote: > > I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for > > dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember > > watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal > > Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended > > for dogs on it. So > > *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet > > first about adjusting the dosage. > > > > Cindy & Angel Jackpot > > > > From: molvey...@hotmail.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just > > discussing it with my feline asthma group. > > > > Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a > > cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things > > ten times worse. I've been using Revolution f
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
I'll send the site where we order these little nematodes - but if a nursery has them, great! We used to get them from Dr. Goodpet.not sure, where we get them now. We are busily preparing for the hurricane. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth They are just called beneficial nematodes and you can get them at some nurseries. I got some at Pike this year. You can also order them from online. I ordered some from Amazon. I haven't put those out yet so I can testify to them. I'm a little worried they didn't survive the trip through the mail because they have to be kept cool and when I got the order in the mail the ice bag was hot so they weren't kept cool the whole time they were in the shipping process. I'm going to put them out this weekend but I'm a little leary. But the first batch I got from Pike Nurseries in late spring worked great. Man did it cut down on the fleas and I didn't have those little black ants coming in either. I think I'll be putting them down every year from now on. I'm not sure if they work on ticks. Seems like they would if ticks spend a lot of time on the ground. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > From: ho...@sonic.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:15:53 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > Wow, now I have to ask...Friendly Nematodes? > What are they called & where do you get them! > ~Bonnie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly nematodes around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the cats. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES. > > It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place. I had been using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over a river and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took Homey to vet for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also. Vet gave her a long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her normal self, but they called and said she was loaded with seed ticks. I check them every time they come in and I never noticed any s now everyone got a dose of tick treament. I have since found a lot of them on myself, seed and regular ticks. Anyone else haeing a big problem with them? > > Cindy McHugh wrote: > > I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for > > dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember > > watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal > > Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended > > for dogs on it. So > > *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet > > first about adjusting the dosage. > > > > Cindy & Angel Jackpot > > > > From: molvey...@hotmail.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just > > discussing it with my feline asthma group. > > > > Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a > > cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things > > ten times worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with no problems. > > Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog > > size and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution > > isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for > > fleas. If you say Advantage isn't
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
They are just called beneficial nematodes and you can get them at some nurseries. I got some at Pike this year. You can also order them from online. I ordered some from Amazon. I haven't put those out yet so I can testify to them. I'm a little worried they didn't survive the trip through the mail because they have to be kept cool and when I got the order in the mail the ice bag was hot so they weren't kept cool the whole time they were in the shipping process. I'm going to put them out this weekend but I'm a little leary. But the first batch I got from Pike Nurseries in late spring worked great. Man did it cut down on the fleas and I didn't have those little black ants coming in either. I think I'll be putting them down every year from now on. I'm not sure if they work on ticks. Seems like they would if ticks spend a lot of time on the ground. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > From: ho...@sonic.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:15:53 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > Wow, now I have to ask...Friendly Nematodes? > What are they called & where do you get them! > ~Bonnie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly nematodes > around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the cats. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > dlg...@windstream.net > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES. > > It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place. I had been > using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over a > river and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took Homey > to vet for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also. Vet gave > her a long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her normal self, but > they called and said she was loaded with seed ticks. I check them every time > they come in and I never noticed any s now everyone got a dose of tick > treament. I have since found a lot of them on myself, seed and regular > ticks. Anyone else haeing a big problem with them? > > Cindy McHugh wrote: > > I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for > > dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember > > watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal > > Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended > > for dogs on it. So > > *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet > > first about adjusting the dosage. > > > > Cindy & Angel Jackpot > > > > From: molvey...@hotmail.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just > > discussing it with my feline asthma group. > > > > Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a > > cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things > > ten times worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with no > > problems. > > Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog > > size and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution > > isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for > > fleas. If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an > > especially bad year. > > Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes > > switching products can help because either the fleas have built up a > > tolerance to the current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is > > processing the flea stuff differently because they'v
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
Wow, now I have to ask...Friendly Nematodes? What are they called & where do you get them! ~Bonnie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:38 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly nematodes around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the cats. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES. It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place. I had been using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over a river and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took Homey to vet for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also. Vet gave her a long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her normal self, but they called and said she was loaded with seed ticks. I check them every time they come in and I never noticed any s now everyone got a dose of tick treament. I have since found a lot of them on myself, seed and regular ticks. Anyone else haeing a big problem with them? Cindy McHugh wrote: > I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for > dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember > watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal > Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended > for dogs on it. So > *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet > first about adjusting the dosage. > > Cindy & Angel Jackpot > > From: molvey...@hotmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 > > > > > It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just > discussing it with my feline asthma group. > > Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a > cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things > ten times worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with no > problems. > Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog > size and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution > isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for > fleas. If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an especially > bad year. > Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes > switching products can help because either the fleas have built up a > tolerance to the current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is > processing the flea stuff differently because they've had it on them > for so long. Who knows. If you've been using Advantage maybe you > should try Revolution or Frontline Plus. I believe Frontline Plus > kills fleas and larvae so it kills and breaks the life cycle so that > might be a good one too. I hate using all these chemicals on my cats > but there's no way around it for me because I've got so many plus a few > ferals that live here that I can't touch. > > I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to > do something. I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone > else is saying all these chemicals for yards say "don't get on skin, > don't get in eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off > until it dries" > and that really scares me. If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the > yard with every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad. > But since they do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I > just bought the food grade diatomaceous earth. I've been using Flea > Stoppers in the house which is a borax type of product. Well, I just > sprayed the nematodes last week so I can't tell if they're working yet > because they just eat larvae so they don't kill adult fleas so it'll > take a while to make a difference. But if anyone wants to try them I > got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95. I think you can order them > online also. I don't remember if the nematodes do anything for ticks. > > The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store. It's the food > grade and a lot cheaper
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
No, we have our property sprayed against ticks, and use friendly nematodes around the house so that we don't have to use flea stuff on the cats. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES. It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place. I had been using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over a river and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took Homey to vet for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also. Vet gave her a long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her normal self, but they called and said she was loaded with seed ticks. I check them every time they come in and I never noticed any s now everyone got a dose of tick treament. I have since found a lot of them on myself, seed and regular ticks. Anyone else haeing a big problem with them? Cindy McHugh wrote: > I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for dogs > on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember watching > an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal Planet where a > cat died because someone used a flea product intended for dogs on it. So > *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet first > about adjusting the dosage. > > Cindy & Angel Jackpot > > From: molvey...@hotmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 > > > > > It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just > discussing it with my feline asthma group. > > Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a cat > fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things ten times > worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with no problems. > Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog size > and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution isn't > working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for fleas. If you > say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an especially bad year. > Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes switching > products can help because either the fleas have built up a tolerance to the > current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is processing the flea stuff > differently because they've had it on them for so long. Who knows. If > you've been using Advantage maybe you should try Revolution or Frontline > Plus. I believe Frontline Plus kills fleas and larvae so it kills and > breaks the life cycle so that might be a good one too. I hate using all > these chemicals on my cats but there's no way around it for me because I've > got so many plus a few ferals that live here that I can't touch. > > I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to do > something. I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone else is > saying all these chemicals for yards say "don't get on skin, don't get in > eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off until it dries" > and that really scares me. If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the yard with > every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad. But since they > do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I just bought the food > grade diatomaceous earth. I've been using Flea Stoppers in the house which > is a borax type of product. Well, I just sprayed the nematodes last week so > I can't tell if they're working yet because they just eat larvae so they > don't kill adult fleas so it'll take a while to make a difference. But if > anyone wants to try them I got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95. I think > you can order them online also. I don't remember if the nematodes do > anything for ticks. > > The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store. It's the food grade > and a lot cheaper than ordering online, so if any of you are thinking of > trying it check your feed stores first. I got a 50 lb bag for $39.95 and > this stuff will last forever. I can't believe how little it takes. I > didn't need a bag that big but that's all she had. I'm using it outside to > try to hopefully kill the adult fleas and putting a little in my cat's
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I KNOW THIS IS AN OLD ONE, BUT I AM SLOW IN RESPONDING SOMETIMES. It is now August an boy do we have seed ticks all over the place. I had been using Revolution on my cats because of heartworm (I live on bluff over a river and lots of ponds in our area, so lots of mosquitos) but I took Homey to vet for sturivite crystals in urine and she had some blood also. Vet gave her a long lasting antibiotic shot and now he is back to her normal self, but they called and said she was loaded with seed ticks. I check them every time they come in and I never noticed any s now everyone got a dose of tick treament. I have since found a lot of them on myself, seed and regular ticks. Anyone else haeing a big problem with them? Cindy McHugh wrote: > I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for dogs > on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember watching > an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal Planet where a > cat died because someone used a flea product intended for dogs on it. So > *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet first > about adjusting the dosage. > > Cindy & Angel Jackpot > > From: molvey...@hotmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 > > > > > It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just > discussing it with my feline asthma group. > > Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a cat > fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things ten times > worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with no problems. > Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog size > and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution isn't > working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for fleas. If you > say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an especially bad year. > Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes switching > products can help because either the fleas have built up a tolerance to the > current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is processing the flea stuff > differently because they've had it on them for so long. Who knows. If > you've been using Advantage maybe you should try Revolution or Frontline > Plus. I believe Frontline Plus kills fleas and larvae so it kills and > breaks the life cycle so that might be a good one too. I hate using all > these chemicals on my cats but there's no way around it for me because I've > got so many plus a few ferals that live here that I can't touch. > > I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to do > something. I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone else is > saying all these chemicals for yards say "don't get on skin, don't get in > eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off until it dries" > and that really scares me. If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the yard with > every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad. But since they > do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I just bought the food > grade diatomaceous earth. I've been using Flea Stoppers in the house which > is a borax type of product. Well, I just sprayed the nematodes last week so > I can't tell if they're working yet because they just eat larvae so they > don't kill adult fleas so it'll take a while to make a difference. But if > anyone wants to try them I got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95. I think > you can order them online also. I don't remember if the nematodes do > anything for ticks. > > The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store. It's the food grade > and a lot cheaper than ordering online, so if any of you are thinking of > trying it check your feed stores first. I got a 50 lb bag for $39.95 and > this stuff will last forever. I can't believe how little it takes. I > didn't need a bag that big but that's all she had. I'm using it outside to > try to hopefully kill the adult fleas and putting a little in my cat's > coats. It's very very very dusty so you definitely need a mask on when > messing wtih it. I am hesistant about using it in the house because it is > so so dusty. That's why I went with the borax inside in the carpets. I did > put the diatomaceous earth on the cat trees and their bedding though. The > DE is the consistency of flour. Feels just like it and is dusty just like > it. I put some on some of my cats and when they shake you can see a dust > cloud around them. So for now I'm glad I didn't put it everywhere in the > house. I think the Flea Stoppers with the borox has helped but I'm also > vacuuming every couple of days which makes a big difference. I've put the > diatomaceous earth on several of my cat's then checked them when they come > in from outside. They are
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Does the same to dogs. On Jun 2, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Sharyl wrote: Onions can cause heinz bodies anemia in most cats. Some feel that garlic can do the same thing but it is not as certain as onions are. Sharyl From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2011 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor I have always heard that garlic ad onionsare deah to cats. Natalie wrote: When our garage was flea-infested when I first started trapping feral cats, I couldn't treat them individually. The fleas were jumping on us in the garage, thankfully, they didn't make it into the house. I used diatomaceous earth, sprinkled it all over the floor, cracks along the wall, in the garage - a little away from the cats because you're not supposed to inhale it. The flea problem was resolved. However, I also heard many good things about the two cedar solutions below. We spray around the outside of the house with flea control from www.arbico-organics.com - these are friendly nematodes; sure works for us because I cannot individually use a product on all cats, and I don't want to continue using poisons on them. http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Natural+flea+control+for+cats - a whole list of things Natural Flea and Tick Control for Dogs and Cats Get rid of fleas and ticks with our natural flea and tick control products. Our flea spray and tick spray are the ultimate in flea and tick control for dogs and cats. www.cedarbugfree.com/product_pages/pet_pages/flea_tick.htm Non Toxic DIY Flea Control Home Dogs Cats Flea Treatment Horse CedarCide's Non Toxic DIY Flea Control For Home Dogs Cats Horses. All Natural Organic Flea Treatment Products Kills Fleas and Flea Eggs on Contact. A Pet Safe Flea ... www.cedarcidestore.com/NON_TOXIC_FLEAS_CONTROL.html Brewer's Yeast and Garlic Adding a yeast supplement to your cat's diet has been shown by some studies to significantly reduce the number of fleas on your cat. However, some veterinarians claim that both Brewer's yeast and garlic treatments are ineffective, and that no controlled scientific or clinical tests have shown these two ingredients to have any effect on fleas. Dr. Pitcairn's (author of "Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs & Cats") experience with yeast has shown some favorable effects, particularly when the cat's health is good. Brewer's yeast tablets may act as a flea repellent (working from the inside out). You can buy Brewer's yeast tablets and give these to your cat as a treat. You can also rub the yeast directly into your cat's coat. Raw garlic is considered another natural flea control treatment that may also act as a flea repellent. It is supposed to make your cat's blood unappealing to fleas. One recommendation is to crush a little garlic in your cat's food everyday while you are fighting fleas. But please note that there is some debate as to how safe garlic is for your feline friend. You may also be able to find garlic tablets to give to your cat as treats. Brewer's yeast and garlic are supposed to be relatively harmless to your cat, so if you give yeast or garlic to your cat as a natural flea control treatment, you can safely judge for yourself whether they offer any flea protection or flea control for your cat. Combination Brewer's yeast and garlic tablets can also be given to your cat as a treat, although some cats are too finicky to consider this a treat. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent all day yesterday cleaning & combing cats to get rid of fleas & they just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie wrote: From: Lorrie Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of you have used it and find that it works and is not harmful,
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Onions can cause heinz bodies anemia in most cats. Some feel that garlic can do the same thing but it is not as certain as onions are. Sharyl From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2011 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor I have always heard that garlic ad onionsare deah to cats. Natalie wrote: > When our garage was flea-infested when I first started trapping feral cats, > I couldn't treat them individually. The fleas were jumping on us in the > garage, thankfully, they didn't make it into the house. I used diatomaceous > earth, sprinkled it all over the floor, cracks along the wall, in the garage > - a little away from the cats because you're not supposed to inhale it. The > flea problem was resolved. However, I also heard many good things about the > two cedar solutions below. We spray around the outside of the house with > flea control from www.arbico-organics.com - these are friendly nematodes; > sure works for us because I cannot individually use a product on all cats, > and I don't want to continue using poisons on them. > > http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Natural+flea+control+for+cats > - a whole list of things > > Natural Flea and Tick Control for Dogs and Cats > Get rid of fleas and ticks with our natural flea and tick control products. > Our flea spray and tick spray are the ultimate in flea and tick control for > dogs and cats. > www.cedarbugfree.com/product_pages/pet_pages/flea_tick.htm > > Non Toxic DIY Flea Control Home Dogs Cats Flea Treatment Horse > CedarCide's Non Toxic DIY Flea Control For Home Dogs Cats Horses. All > Natural Organic Flea Treatment Products Kills Fleas and Flea Eggs on > Contact. A Pet Safe Flea ... > www.cedarcidestore.com/NON_TOXIC_FLEAS_CONTROL.html > > > Brewer's Yeast and Garlic > > Adding a yeast supplement to your cat's diet has been shown by some studies > to significantly reduce the number of fleas on your cat. However, some > veterinarians claim that both Brewer's yeast and garlic treatments are > ineffective, and that no controlled scientific or clinical tests have shown > these two ingredients to have any effect on fleas. Dr. Pitcairn's (author of > "Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs & Cats") > experience with yeast has shown some favorable effects, particularly when > the cat's health is good. > > Brewer's yeast tablets may act as a flea repellent (working from the inside > out). You can buy Brewer's yeast tablets and give these to your cat as a > treat. You can also rub the yeast directly into your cat's coat. > > Raw garlic is considered another natural flea control treatment that may > also act as a flea repellent. It is supposed to make your cat's blood > unappealing to fleas. One recommendation is to crush a little garlic in your > cat's food everyday while you are fighting fleas. But please note that there > is some debate as to how safe garlic is for your feline friend. You may also > be able to find garlic tablets to give to your cat as treats. > > Brewer's yeast and garlic are supposed to be relatively harmless to your > cat, so if you give yeast or garlic to your cat as a natural flea control > treatment, you can safely judge for yourself whether they offer any flea > protection or flea control for your cat. > > Combination Brewer's yeast and garlic tablets can also be given to your cat > as a treat, although some cats are too finicky to consider this a treat. > > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. > On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: > > > I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent > > all day yesterday cleaning & combing cats to get rid of fleas & they > > just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! > > Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is > > this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched > > himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. > > Beth > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > > > --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie wrote: > > > > From: Lorrie > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com > > Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011,
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I have always heard that garlic ad onionsare deah to cats. Natalie wrote: > When our garage was flea-infested when I first started trapping feral cats, > I couldn't treat them individually. The fleas were jumping on us in the > garage, thankfully, they didn't make it into the house. I used diatomaceous > earth, sprinkled it all over the floor, cracks along the wall, in the garage > - a little away from the cats because you're not supposed to inhale it. The > flea problem was resolved. However, I also heard many good things about the > two cedar solutions below. We spray around the outside of the house with > flea control from www.arbico-organics.com - these are friendly nematodes; > sure works for us because I cannot individually use a product on all cats, > and I don't want to continue using poisons on them. > > http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Natural+flea+control+for+cats > - a whole list of things > > Natural Flea and Tick Control for Dogs and Cats > Get rid of fleas and ticks with our natural flea and tick control products. > Our flea spray and tick spray are the ultimate in flea and tick control for > dogs and cats. > www.cedarbugfree.com/product_pages/pet_pages/flea_tick.htm > > Non Toxic DIY Flea Control Home Dogs Cats Flea Treatment Horse > CedarCide's Non Toxic DIY Flea Control For Home Dogs Cats Horses. All > Natural Organic Flea Treatment Products Kills Fleas and Flea Eggs on > Contact. A Pet Safe Flea ... > www.cedarcidestore.com/NON_TOXIC_FLEAS_CONTROL.html > > > Brewer's Yeast and Garlic > > Adding a yeast supplement to your cat's diet has been shown by some studies > to significantly reduce the number of fleas on your cat. However, some > veterinarians claim that both Brewer's yeast and garlic treatments are > ineffective, and that no controlled scientific or clinical tests have shown > these two ingredients to have any effect on fleas. Dr. Pitcairn's (author of > "Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs & Cats") > experience with yeast has shown some favorable effects, particularly when > the cat's health is good. > > Brewer's yeast tablets may act as a flea repellent (working from the inside > out). You can buy Brewer's yeast tablets and give these to your cat as a > treat. You can also rub the yeast directly into your cat's coat. > > Raw garlic is considered another natural flea control treatment that may > also act as a flea repellent. It is supposed to make your cat's blood > unappealing to fleas. One recommendation is to crush a little garlic in your > cat's food everyday while you are fighting fleas. But please note that there > is some debate as to how safe garlic is for your feline friend. You may also > be able to find garlic tablets to give to your cat as treats. > > Brewer's yeast and garlic are supposed to be relatively harmless to your > cat, so if you give yeast or garlic to your cat as a natural flea control > treatment, you can safely judge for yourself whether they offer any flea > protection or flea control for your cat. > > Combination Brewer's yeast and garlic tablets can also be given to your cat > as a treat, although some cats are too finicky to consider this a treat. > > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. > On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: > > > I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent > > all day yesterday cleaning & combing cats to get rid of fleas & they > > just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! > > Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is > > this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched > > himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. > > Beth > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > > > --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie wrote: > > > > From: Lorrie > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > > To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com > > Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM > > > > > >Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same > >thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor > >site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. > >I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of > > you > >have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please > > let me > >know. > > > >Lorrie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://feline
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
Yeah, Revolution for dogs uses the same insecticide as Revolution for cats. The only thing is that you have to do the math carefully because the insecticide is more concentrated in the dog formulation. For example, one ml of the dog Revolution has more of the insecticide than one ml of the cat formulation. So even though the amount of liquid is the same, the formulations are different. There are more milligrams of the chemical per ml for the dog stuff than the cat. It can all be rather confusing so you definitely have to do your research before taking chances with flea meds since some are toxic. Like Biospot for instance. It's fine for dogs I think but even the cat version has one of the same insecticides as the dog formulation and that particular chemical is toxic to cats. It's pyrethrins (sp?). I don't know why they won't change the formulation for cats so it's safe. So in that case both formulations, dog and cat, are toxic to cats. It's crazy I've got a cat that occasionally gets a bald spot from the Revolution too. Not every time I give it to him but sometimes so I started giving him Frontline. sent from my AT&T Smartphone by HTC - Reply message - From: "Beth Noren" Date: Wed, Jun 1, 2011 1:21 am Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth To: Many dog products are extremely dangerous for cats, but at least the last time that I ordered, Revolution used the same formula for both dogs and cats. I have used the large dog tube many times on my cats. Like Lynda, I have a couple of cats that lose their fur at the application site, so I usually don't give it to them. The Revolution website claims that hair loss is due to the cat over grooming the area, which is baloney, IMHO, as I place it in a pretty difficult to reach spot on the neck, and I have never seen them or any other cat licking those spots. It looks more like a crusted over burn to me. Beth N. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Lynda Wilson wrote: > The Revolution that I have is 15mg for puppies or kittens 5 lbs or less. It > works quick and is effective. However, one of my cats loses his fur at the > site of application so I have discontinued it. It did work well enough that > he nor the house has fleas. > > Lynda > - Original Message - From: "Cindy McHugh" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 9:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > > I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for dogs > on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember watching > an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal Planet where a > cat died because someone used a flea product intended for dogs on it. So > *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet first > about adjusting the dosage. > > Cindy & Angel Jackpot ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
That is why it is so important to do your own research. I look up each product on line and compare the ingredients just to verify the formula is the same. Some are not and are indeed harmful to cats. I would look up the ingredients for Pet Armor and compare them to Frontline Plus just to be sure. Sharyl From: Cindy McHugh To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended for dogs on it. So *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet first about adjusting the dosage. Cindy & Angel Jackpot ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Many dog products are extremely dangerous for cats, but at least the last time that I ordered, Revolution used the same formula for both dogs and cats. I have used the large dog tube many times on my cats. Like Lynda, I have a couple of cats that lose their fur at the application site, so I usually don't give it to them. The Revolution website claims that hair loss is due to the cat over grooming the area, which is baloney, IMHO, as I place it in a pretty difficult to reach spot on the neck, and I have never seen them or any other cat licking those spots. It looks more like a crusted over burn to me. Beth N. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Lynda Wilson wrote: > The Revolution that I have is 15mg for puppies or kittens 5 lbs or less. It > works quick and is effective. However, one of my cats loses his fur at the > site of application so I have discontinued it. It did work well enough that > he nor the house has fleas. > > Lynda > - Original Message - From: "Cindy McHugh" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 9:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth > > > I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for dogs > on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember watching > an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal Planet where a > cat died because someone used a flea product intended for dogs on it. So > *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet first > about adjusting the dosage. > > Cindy & Angel Jackpot ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The Revolution that I have is 15mg for puppies or kittens 5 lbs or less. It works quick and is effective. However, one of my cats loses his fur at the site of application so I have discontinued it. It did work well enough that he nor the house has fleas. Lynda - Original Message - From: "Cindy McHugh" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended for dogs on it. So *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet first about adjusting the dosage. Cindy & Angel Jackpot From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just discussing it with my feline asthma group. Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things ten times worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with no problems. Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog size and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for fleas. If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an especially bad year. Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes switching products can help because either the fleas have built up a tolerance to the current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is processing the flea stuff differently because they've had it on them for so long. Who knows. If you've been using Advantage maybe you should try Revolution or Frontline Plus. I believe Frontline Plus kills fleas and larvae so it kills and breaks the life cycle so that might be a good one too. I hate using all these chemicals on my cats but there's no way around it for me because I've got so many plus a few ferals that live here that I can't touch. I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to do something. I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone else is saying all these chemicals for yards say "don't get on skin, don't get in eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off until it dries" and that really scares me. If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the yard with every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad. But since they do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I just bought the food grade diatomaceous earth. I've been using Flea Stoppers in the house which is a borax type of product. Well, I just sprayed the nematodes last week so I can't tell if they're working yet because they just eat larvae so they don't kill adult fleas so it'll take a while to make a difference. But if anyone wants to try them I got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95. I think you can order them online also. I don't remember if the nematodes do anything for ticks. The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store. It's the food grade and a lot cheaper than ordering online, so if any of you are thinking of trying it check your feed stores first. I got a 50 lb bag for $39.95 and this stuff will last forever. I can't believe how little it takes. I didn't need a bag that big but that's all she had. I'm using it outside to try to hopefully kill the adult fleas and putting a little in my cat's coats. It's very very very dusty so you definitely need a mask on when messing wtih it. I am hesistant about using it in the house because it is so so dusty. That's why I went with the borax inside in the carpets. I did put the diatomaceous earth on the cat trees and their bedding though. The DE is the consistency of flour. Feels just like it and is dusty just like it. I put some on some of my cats and when they shake you can see a dust cloud around them. So for now I'm glad I didn't put it everywhere in the house. I think the Flea Stoppers with the borox has helped but I'm also vacuuming every couple of days which makes a big difference. I've put the diatomaceous earth on several of my cat's then checked them when they come in from outside. They are still coming in with fleas but I don't think it is as many. The DE doesn't kill the fleas right away either. It just cuts them and the fleas dehydrate and die so I'm thinking it will take a week or more before it really starts cutting down the flea population. If anyon
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
I noticed a couple people have mentioned using Revolution intended for dogs on their cats. I thought this was extremely dangerous. I remember watching an episode of Emergency Vets or one of those shows on Animal Planet where a cat died because someone used a flea product intended for dogs on it. So *please* be very, very careful when doing this and speak to your vet first about adjusting the dosage. Cindy & Angel Jackpot From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just discussing it with my feline asthma group. Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things ten times worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with no problems. Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog size and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for fleas. If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an especially bad year. Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes switching products can help because either the fleas have built up a tolerance to the current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is processing the flea stuff differently because they've had it on them for so long. Who knows. If you've been using Advantage maybe you should try Revolution or Frontline Plus. I believe Frontline Plus kills fleas and larvae so it kills and breaks the life cycle so that might be a good one too. I hate using all these chemicals on my cats but there's no way around it for me because I've got so many plus a few ferals that live here that I can't touch. I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to do something. I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone else is saying all these chemicals for yards say "don't get on skin, don't get in eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off until it dries" and that really scares me. If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the yard with every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad. But since they do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I just bought the food grade diatomaceous earth. I've been using Flea Stoppers in the house which is a borax type of product. Well, I just sprayed the nematodes last week so I can't tell if they're working yet because they just eat larvae so they don't kill adult fleas so it'll take a while to make a difference. But if anyone wants to try them I got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95. I think you can order them online also. I don't remember if the nematodes do anything for ticks. The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store. It's the food grade and a lot cheaper than ordering online, so if any of you are thinking of trying it check your feed stores first. I got a 50 lb bag for $39.95 and this stuff will last forever. I can't believe how little it takes. I didn't need a bag that big but that's all she had. I'm using it outside to try to hopefully kill the adult fleas and putting a little in my cat's coats. It's very very very dusty so you definitely need a mask on when messing wtih it. I am hesistant about using it in the house because it is so so dusty. That's why I went with the borax inside in the carpets. I did put the diatomaceous earth on the cat trees and their bedding though. The DE is the consistency of flour. Feels just like it and is dusty just like it. I put some on some of my cats and when they shake you can see a dust cloud around them. So for now I'm glad I didn't put it everywhere in the house. I think the Flea Stoppers with the borox has helped but I'm also vacuuming every couple of days which makes a big difference. I've put the diatomaceous earth on several of my cat's then checked them when they come in from outside. They are still coming in with fleas but I don't think it is as many. The DE doesn't kill the fleas right away either. It just cuts them and the fleas dehydrate and die so I'm thinking it will take a week or more before it really starts cutting down the flea population. If anyone puts it on their cat I'll just warn you that it does make the coat dry feeling. Still better than fleas if you ask me. Of course the cats are going to clean themselves and injest the DE so it's very important to get the food grade stuff. They use it in other forms, like in swimming pools, and it's very toxic. I haven't put the DE in my cats' food yet but a woman in my feline asthma group swears by it and she uses it and puts it in her cats' food and has for years and says they always test negative for worms. She puts it in her coffee and says she can see differences since she started using it.
[Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor/Diatomaceous Earth
From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:18:36 -0400 It's so funny that this conversation has come up because I was just discussing it with my feline asthma group. Beth, I'm in GA also and having major major flea problems. I have a cat fence up so all my cats go in the backyard. That is making things ten times worse. I've been using Revolution for several years now with no problems. Like you, I work in a rescue and have a lot of cats so I buy the dog size and split it up between the cats. I don't know if the Revolution isn't working this year or if it's just an especially bad year for fleas. If you say Advantage isn't working then maybe it's just an especially bad year. Some people in the other group were talking about how sometimes switching products can help because either the fleas have built up a tolerance to the current flea meds or maybe the cat's system is processing the flea stuff differently because they've had it on them for so long. Who knows. If you've been using Advantage maybe you should try Revolution or Frontline Plus. I believe Frontline Plus kills fleas and larvae so it kills and breaks the life cycle so that might be a good one too. I hate using all these chemicals on my cats but there's no way around it for me because I've got so many plus a few ferals that live here that I can't touch. I've never sprayed my yard but since this year is so bad I've got to do something. I'm trying to go natural first because like everyone else is saying all these chemicals for yards say "don't get on skin, don't get in eyes, don't inhale, etc. etc. and keep pets and children off until it dries" and that really scares me. If my cats didn't go out I'd spray the yard with every poison I could find because I hate the fleas so bad. But since they do, for now I'm trying the beneficial nematodes and I just bought the food grade diatomaceous earth. I've been using Flea Stoppers in the house which is a borax type of product. Well, I just sprayed the nematodes last week so I can't tell if they're working yet because they just eat larvae so they don't kill adult fleas so it'll take a while to make a difference. But if anyone wants to try them I got them at Pike's nursery for $39.95. I think you can order them online also. I don't remember if the nematodes do anything for ticks. The diatomaceous earth I got from a local feed store. It's the food grade and a lot cheaper than ordering online, so if any of you are thinking of trying it check your feed stores first. I got a 50 lb bag for $39.95 and this stuff will last forever. I can't believe how little it takes. I didn't need a bag that big but that's all she had. I'm using it outside to try to hopefully kill the adult fleas and putting a little in my cat's coats. It's very very very dusty so you definitely need a mask on when messing wtih it. I am hesistant about using it in the house because it is so so dusty. That's why I went with the borax inside in the carpets. I did put the diatomaceous earth on the cat trees and their bedding though. The DE is the consistency of flour. Feels just like it and is dusty just like it. I put some on some of my cats and when they shake you can see a dust cloud around them. So for now I'm glad I didn't put it everywhere in the house. I think the Flea Stoppers with the borox has helped but I'm also vacuuming every couple of days which makes a big difference. I've put the diatomaceous earth on several of my cat's then checked them when they come in from outside. They are still coming in with fleas but I don't think it is as many. The DE doesn't kill the fleas right away either. It just cuts them and the fleas dehydrate and die so I'm thinking it will take a week or more before it really starts cutting down the flea population. If anyone puts it on their cat I'll just warn you that it does make the coat dry feeling. Still better than fleas if you ask me. Of course the cats are going to clean themselves and injest the DE so it's very important to get the food grade stuff. They use it in other forms, like in swimming pools, and it's very toxic. I haven't put the DE in my cats' food yet but a woman in my feline asthma group swears by it and she uses it and puts it in her cats' food and has for years and says they always test negative for worms. She puts it in her coffee and says she can see differences since she started using it. Well, just thought I'd share the things I'm trying. I'm still putting Revolution on the cats because I've got a lot of it but if I don't start seeing a difference soon I'll probably switch to either Frontline Plus or Advantage. Nothing has made a big difference so far, except the borax and the vaccuming, but I think that's because there are so many fleas outside that every time the cats go out they pick up 100 mo
[Felvtalk] FW: Pet Armor
When our garage was flea-infested when I first started trapping feral cats, I couldn't treat them individually. The fleas were jumping on us in the garage, thankfully, they didn't make it into the house. I used diatomaceous earth, sprinkled it all over the floor, cracks along the wall, in the garage - a little away from the cats because you're not supposed to inhale it. The flea problem was resolved. However, I also heard many good things about the two cedar solutions below. We spray around the outside of the house with flea control from www.arbico-organics.com - these are friendly nematodes; sure works for us because I cannot individually use a product on all cats, and I don't want to continue using poisons on them. http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=Natural+flea+control+for+cats - a whole list of things Natural Flea and Tick Control for Dogs and Cats Get rid of fleas and ticks with our natural flea and tick control products. Our flea spray and tick spray are the ultimate in flea and tick control for dogs and cats. www.cedarbugfree.com/product_pages/pet_pages/flea_tick.htm Non Toxic DIY Flea Control Home Dogs Cats Flea Treatment Horse CedarCide's Non Toxic DIY Flea Control For Home Dogs Cats Horses. All Natural Organic Flea Treatment Products Kills Fleas and Flea Eggs on Contact. A Pet Safe Flea ... www.cedarcidestore.com/NON_TOXIC_FLEAS_CONTROL.html Brewer's Yeast and Garlic Adding a yeast supplement to your cat's diet has been shown by some studies to significantly reduce the number of fleas on your cat. However, some veterinarians claim that both Brewer's yeast and garlic treatments are ineffective, and that no controlled scientific or clinical tests have shown these two ingredients to have any effect on fleas. Dr. Pitcairn's (author of "Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs & Cats") experience with yeast has shown some favorable effects, particularly when the cat's health is good. Brewer's yeast tablets may act as a flea repellent (working from the inside out). You can buy Brewer's yeast tablets and give these to your cat as a treat. You can also rub the yeast directly into your cat's coat. Raw garlic is considered another natural flea control treatment that may also act as a flea repellent. It is supposed to make your cat's blood unappealing to fleas. One recommendation is to crush a little garlic in your cat's food everyday while you are fighting fleas. But please note that there is some debate as to how safe garlic is for your feline friend. You may also be able to find garlic tablets to give to your cat as treats. Brewer's yeast and garlic are supposed to be relatively harmless to your cat, so if you give yeast or garlic to your cat as a natural flea control treatment, you can safely judge for yourself whether they offer any flea protection or flea control for your cat. Combination Brewer's yeast and garlic tablets can also be given to your cat as a treat, although some cats are too finicky to consider this a treat. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor Rural wisdom is Sevin powder in the cat bedding and around the house. On May 31, 2011, at 12:10 PM, Beth wrote: > I need something new. Advantage just isn't working any more. Spent > all day yesterday cleaning & combing cats to get rid of fleas & they > just had Advantage 2 weeks ago! > Frontline used to not kill the fleas, just make them sterile, is > this still the case? I couldn't use it because my one cat scratched > himself raw because the fleas were still crawling. > Beth > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > --- On Tue, 5/31/11, Lorrie wrote: > > From: Lorrie > Subject: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor > To: feralfriendsonl...@yahoogroups.com > Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 8:19 AM > > >Have any of you used Pet Armor? It is supposed to be the exact same >thing as Frontline Plus - Fipronil and S Methoprene - The Pet Armor >site claims it is a generic for Frontline, and it is much cheaper. >I'm seeing it advertised in all sorts of places now, so if any of > you >have used it and find that it works and is not harmful, please > let me >know. > >Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
