Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
Thanks Lynda I am going to discuss with my vet altho I think I am OK as I have my negatives tested annually and all have been 'clean' for 2+ years now. Phew! Kat On 4/23/11, Lynda Wilson wrote: > I've heard and read that testing for FeLV using tears and saliva is very > inaccurate. Blood test is the only way to go. Tears and saliva are not as > sensitive using these samples. I highly recommend using blood to test. Here > is a link that may help you...your question is answered under "What is a > leukemia test"? > > http://uvhberkeley.com/index.php?Page=felv&Format=print > > I hope your kitty tests negative. I'm experiencing the same right now. My > cats last exposure was on March 10th. He was unknowingly exposed several > times over a 6 mo. period. I'm pryaing hard that his immune system has > cleared the virus and will be fine. I'll know for sure by this June. > Good luck to you! > Lynda > > - Original Message - > From: "katskat1" > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test > > >> In reading thru all this info I see where someone says using >> tears/saliva to do the ELISA test is notoriously inaccurate? My >> vet has ALWAYS done it with a swab on the inner cheek of the mouth >> Do I need to talk to her? Why so different if done with blood? >> Can the same test solutions be used? She swabs. then puts the swab in >> a tube with a solution. We then wait to see if it turns blue. Blue >> means positive, staying clear means negative. >> >> Would appreciate any info. >> >> thanks >> Kat >> >> On 4/18/11, Pam Norman wrote: >>> Test is in from IDEXX. Poppy is IFA negative! BUT they did another >>> Elisa (the first was done in-house) & she is still Elisa positive. >>> >>> So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to Madison right now >>> but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed >>> info in hand. My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk >>> positive sanctuary, says she will test positive on the next IFA in a >>> month & all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or >>> something else. My vet is kinda skeptical too. But you all are the >>> ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the >>> sanctuary) but I need your input. >>> >>> My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done >>> for some reason. Will probably try to do that when I transition her out >>> of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one >>> hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame >>> out & put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding >>> under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the >>> wall. There is a low to the floor desk & I guess I will let her have >>> that but will barricade everything else & leave several open crates with >>> towels around also. >>> >>> Meanwhile her appetite is very good. >>> >>> I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my >>> negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice >>> cat but it would be positive & that would eliminate any little chance >>> Poppy might have. >>> >>> Your thoughts, please please. >>> >>> Pam >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
I've heard and read that testing for FeLV using tears and saliva is very inaccurate. Blood test is the only way to go. Tears and saliva are not as sensitive using these samples. I highly recommend using blood to test. Here is a link that may help you...your question is answered under "What is a leukemia test"? http://uvhberkeley.com/index.php?Page=felv&Format=print I hope your kitty tests negative. I'm experiencing the same right now. My cats last exposure was on March 10th. He was unknowingly exposed several times over a 6 mo. period. I'm pryaing hard that his immune system has cleared the virus and will be fine. I'll know for sure by this June. Good luck to you! Lynda - Original Message - From: "katskat1" To: Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test In reading thru all this info I see where someone says using tears/saliva to do the ELISA test is notoriously inaccurate? My vet has ALWAYS done it with a swab on the inner cheek of the mouth Do I need to talk to her? Why so different if done with blood? Can the same test solutions be used? She swabs. then puts the swab in a tube with a solution. We then wait to see if it turns blue. Blue means positive, staying clear means negative. Would appreciate any info. thanks Kat On 4/18/11, Pam Norman wrote: Test is in from IDEXX. Poppy is IFA negative! BUT they did another Elisa (the first was done in-house) & she is still Elisa positive. So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to Madison right now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed info in hand. My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk positive sanctuary, says she will test positive on the next IFA in a month & all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or something else. My vet is kinda skeptical too. But you all are the ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the sanctuary) but I need your input. My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done for some reason. Will probably try to do that when I transition her out of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame out & put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the wall. There is a low to the floor desk & I guess I will let her have that but will barricade everything else & leave several open crates with towels around also. Meanwhile her appetite is very good. I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice cat but it would be positive & that would eliminate any little chance Poppy might have. Your thoughts, please please. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
In reading thru all this info I see where someone says using tears/saliva to do the ELISA test is notoriously inaccurate? My vet has ALWAYS done it with a swab on the inner cheek of the mouth Do I need to talk to her? Why so different if done with blood? Can the same test solutions be used? She swabs. then puts the swab in a tube with a solution. We then wait to see if it turns blue. Blue means positive, staying clear means negative. Would appreciate any info. thanks Kat On 4/18/11, Pam Norman wrote: > Test is in from IDEXX. Poppy is IFA negative! BUT they did another > Elisa (the first was done in-house) & she is still Elisa positive. > > So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to Madison right now > but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed > info in hand. My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk > positive sanctuary, says she will test positive on the next IFA in a > month & all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or > something else. My vet is kinda skeptical too. But you all are the > ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the > sanctuary) but I need your input. > > My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done > for some reason. Will probably try to do that when I transition her out > of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one > hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame > out & put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding > under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the > wall. There is a low to the floor desk & I guess I will let her have > that but will barricade everything else & leave several open crates with > towels around also. > > Meanwhile her appetite is very good. > > I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my > negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice > cat but it would be positive & that would eliminate any little chance > Poppy might have. > > Your thoughts, please please. > > Pam > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
I agree with everyone else. The virus has probably gotten in her system since she's had two positive ELISA tests but there is a chance she could fight it off before it goes any further. If she does extinguish the virus she'll eventually test negative on both the ELISA and the IFA. If her system can't get rid of the virus then eventually she'll test positive on the IFA. (Course there is the possibility that both ELISA tests were wrong but probably not very likely). If you can keep her for a bit then re-test it would be better to give her time to see if she fights the virus off. It's harder for kittens to fight the virus but not impossible. I have heard of kittens fighting it off so if you can give her a little time so she has a chance for her immune system to do it's magic that would be the better option I would think. This lady with the FeLV sanctuary must be a wonderful person to do what she does. I don't think she understands the mechanics of how FeLV works though and how it gets into the body and then progresses. I'm not an expert but I have read lots and talked with several vets and of course everyone here knows a lot so I think the lady is mistaken in what she told you. She may have been talking about lymphoma which is one thing that can happen to a cat with FeLV. But it's no guarantee that that is what will happen with Poppy even if she can't fight the virus off. Some cats get a kind of severe anemia or several other things can happen, but some cats live with FeLV for a long long time and never have trouble. We were just talking about the 11 year old cat with FeLV. At the same time I had been talking with someone in my Feline Asthma group that just had a 16 year old cat that died and they discovered FeLV. They knew for sure the cat could have only gotten it as a kitten so she lived for 16 years with it which is a long time. So some cats just defy odds and live a long life so you can't say for certain how Poppy will do even if she has FeLV. Like I said, wonderful lady but it doesn't sound like she knows a lot about FeLV. Maybe she's just telling you stuff based on her personal experience with it. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:06:28 -0500 > From: pam_nor...@charter.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test > > Good idea, but no, it was a blood test. Both Elisas. > > On 4/18/2011 4:21 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote: > > Just a wild thought... Was the Elisa done by using blood on test strip or > > saliva/tears??? Some vets may be still doing saliva/tears test& its > > notorious for being wrong. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman > > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 4:35 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test > > > > She is not positive on the IFA, she is negative. An initial positive on the > > Elisa& the another positive on the Elisa, but at the same time, a negative > > on the IFA. > > > > On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote: > >> Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no > > clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has > > been at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV > > positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to > > clear the vius. There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus > > from her body even if it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I > > have spoken with the maker of the snap test because we were always told that > > there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3 > > of every 10 tests that were positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are > > 99.999% accurate. > >> Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2 > > years ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a > > natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the > > non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very > > small. > >> I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!! > >> Tanya > >> > >> > >> --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Norman wrote: > >> &g
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
Good idea, but no, it was a blood test. Both Elisas. On 4/18/2011 4:21 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote: Just a wild thought... Was the Elisa done by using blood on test strip or saliva/tears??? Some vets may be still doing saliva/tears test& its notorious for being wrong. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 4:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test She is not positive on the IFA, she is negative. An initial positive on the Elisa& the another positive on the Elisa, but at the same time, a negative on the IFA. On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote: Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has been at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to clear the vius. There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus from her body even if it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I have spoken with the maker of the snap test because we were always told that there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3 of every 10 tests that were positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are 99.999% accurate. Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2 years ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very small. I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!! Tanya --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Norman wrote: From: Pam Norman Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM Test is in from IDEXX. Poppy is IFA negative! BUT they did another Elisa (the first was done in-house)& she is still Elisa positive. So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to Madison right now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed info in hand. My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk positive sanctuary, says she will test positive on the next IFA in a month& all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or something else. My vet is kinda skeptical too. But you all are the ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the sanctuary) but I need your input. My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done for some reason. Will probably try to do that when I transition her out of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame out& put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the wall. There is a low to the floor desk& I guess I will let her have that but will barricade everything else& leave several open crates with towels around also. Meanwhile her appetite is very good. I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice cat but it would be positive& that would eliminate any little chance Poppy might have. Your thoughts, please please. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or g ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
Yes, I was just explaining what positive on the IFA meant. :) Positive on the snap and then positive again at least 6 weeks later is most likely positive. Tanya --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Norman wrote: > From: Pam Norman > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 4:34 PM > She is not positive on the IFA, she > is negative. An initial positive on > the Elisa & the another positive on the Elisa, but at > the same time, a > negative on the IFA. > > On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote: > > Positive on IFA means it has > reached the bone barrow and there is no clearing the virus. > If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has been > at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is > FeLV positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give > her body time to clear the vius. There is still a slight > chance she could clear the virus from her body even if it > has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I have spoken > with the maker of the snap test because we were always told > that there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic > there were probably 2-3 of every 10 tests that were > positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are 99.999% > accurate. > > Whether you mix or not is > completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2 years ago. Since > cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a > natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated > the risk of the non-positive contracting FeLV is small. > There is still a risk but it is very small. > > I hope this helps and thanks > for taking care of this kitty!! > > Tanya > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Norman > wrote: > > > >> From: Pam Norman > >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM > >> Test is in from > >> IDEXX. Poppy is IFA > >> negative! BUT they did another > Elisa (the > >> first was done in-house)& she is still > Elisa positive. > >> > >> So tell me now what this means. I have to go > off to > >> Madison right now but when I get back I will > re-read all the > >> links with this confirmed info in hand. My > woman who > >> is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk positive > sanctuary, > >> says she will test positive on the next IFA > in a month > >> & all this IFA means is that she does > not have melanoma > >> or something else. My vet is kinda > skeptical > >> too. But you all are the ones who are hands > on every > >> day (well, so is my woman with the sanctuary) but > I need > >> your input. > >> > >> My intention now is to get her to the vet for > worming. That > >> wasn't done for some reason. Will probably > try to do > >> that when I transition her out of the condo. Into > a crate. > >> Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding > place. I > >> have a twin bed in there but am going to take the > >> frame out& put the mattresses on > the floor cause > >> I don't want her hiding under the bed in the dark > all the > >> time. Same with stuff up against the wall. > There is a > >> low to the floor desk& I guess I will > let her have that > >> but will barricade everything else& > leave several open > >> crates with towels around also. > >> > >> Meanwhile her appetite is very good. > >> > >> I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just > can't > >> put one of my negative kitties in there. Marie, at > the > >> sanctuary, would loan me a nice cat but it would > be positive > >> & that would eliminate any little chance > Poppy might > >> have. > >> > >> Your thoughts, please please. > >> > >> Pam > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
Just a wild thought... Was the Elisa done by using blood on test strip or saliva/tears??? Some vets may be still doing saliva/tears test & its notorious for being wrong. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Pam Norman Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 4:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test She is not positive on the IFA, she is negative. An initial positive on the Elisa & the another positive on the Elisa, but at the same time, a negative on the IFA. On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote: > Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has been at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to clear the vius. There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus from her body even if it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I have spoken with the maker of the snap test because we were always told that there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3 of every 10 tests that were positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are 99.999% accurate. > Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2 years ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very small. > I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!! > Tanya > > > --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Norman wrote: > >> From: Pam Norman >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM Test is in from >> IDEXX. Poppy is IFA >> negative! BUT they did another Elisa (the >> first was done in-house)& she is still Elisa positive. >> >> So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to Madison right >> now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this >> confirmed info in hand. My woman who is willing to take Poppy into >> her FeLeuk positive sanctuary, says she will test positive on the >> next IFA in a month & all this IFA means is that she does not have >> melanoma or something else. My vet is kinda skeptical too. But you >> all are the ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman >> with the sanctuary) but I need your input. >> >> My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't >> done for some reason. Will probably try to do that when I transition >> her out of the condo. Into a crate. >> Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I have a >> twin bed in there but am going to take the frame out& put the >> mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding under the bed >> in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the wall. There >> is a low to the floor desk& I guess I will let her have that but >> will barricade everything else& leave several open crates with >> towels around also. >> >> Meanwhile her appetite is very good. >> >> I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of >> my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me >> a nice cat but it would be positive & that would eliminate any >> little chance Poppy might have. >> >> Your thoughts, please please. >> >> Pam >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or >> g >> > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
She is not positive on the IFA, she is negative. An initial positive on the Elisa & the another positive on the Elisa, but at the same time, a negative on the IFA. On 4/18/2011 1:09 PM, TANYA NOE wrote: Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has been at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to clear the vius. There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus from her body even if it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I have spoken with the maker of the snap test because we were always told that there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3 of every 10 tests that were positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are 99.999% accurate. Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2 years ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very small. I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!! Tanya --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Norman wrote: From: Pam Norman Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM Test is in from IDEXX. Poppy is IFA negative! BUT they did another Elisa (the first was done in-house)& she is still Elisa positive. So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to Madison right now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed info in hand. My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk positive sanctuary, says she will test positive on the next IFA in a month & all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or something else. My vet is kinda skeptical too. But you all are the ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the sanctuary) but I need your input. My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done for some reason. Will probably try to do that when I transition her out of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame out& put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the wall. There is a low to the floor desk& I guess I will let her have that but will barricade everything else& leave several open crates with towels around also. Meanwhile her appetite is very good. I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice cat but it would be positive & that would eliminate any little chance Poppy might have. Your thoughts, please please. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
Hi Pam,I have had cats that test positive on the SNAP test, and then again one month later. Two months later the same cats have tested negative and then negative again after 6 months and continue to be negative a few years later. I have one cat that still tested positive 6 months later but tested negative 2 years later, all the while living with positives.There's always hope.El > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:38:03 -0500 > From: pam_nor...@charter.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test > > Test is in from IDEXX. Poppy is IFA negative! BUT they did another > Elisa (the first was done in-house) & she is still Elisa positive. > > So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to Madison right now > but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed > info in hand. My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk > positive sanctuary, says she will test positive on the next IFA in a > month & all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or > something else. My vet is kinda skeptical too. But you all are the > ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the > sanctuary) but I need your input. > > My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done > for some reason. Will probably try to do that when I transition her out > of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one > hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame > out & put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding > under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the > wall. There is a low to the floor desk & I guess I will let her have > that but will barricade everything else & leave several open crates with > towels around also. > > Meanwhile her appetite is very good. > > I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my > negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice > cat but it would be positive & that would eliminate any little chance > Poppy might have. > > Your thoughts, please please. > > Pam > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
Positive on IFA means it has reached the bone barrow and there is no clearing the virus. If she is positive on the snap test again (and it has been at least 6 weeks since she last tested positive) then she is FeLV positive, but you need to wait the full 6 weeks to give her body time to clear the vius. There is still a slight chance she could clear the virus from her body even if it has been 6 weeks but most likely she will not. I have spoken with the maker of the snap test because we were always told that there we a lot of false positives and at my clinic there were probably 2-3 of every 10 tests that were positive, but IDEXX says that the tests are 99.999% accurate. Whether you mix or not is completely up to you. We mixed our girls 2 years ago. Since cats over the age of 1-2 years of age begin to develop a natural immunity and our negative cat is properly vaccinated the risk of the non-positive contracting FeLV is small. There is still a risk but it is very small. I hope this helps and thanks for taking care of this kitty!! Tanya --- On Mon, 4/18/11, Pam Norman wrote: > From: Pam Norman > Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, April 18, 2011, 10:38 AM > Test is in from > IDEXX. Poppy is IFA > negative! BUT they did another Elisa (the > first was done in-house) & she is still Elisa positive. > > So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to > Madison right now but when I get back I will re-read all the > links with this confirmed info in hand. My woman who > is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk positive sanctuary, > says she will test positive on the next IFA in a month > & all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma > or something else. My vet is kinda skeptical > too. But you all are the ones who are hands on every > day (well, so is my woman with the sanctuary) but I need > your input. > > My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That > wasn't done for some reason. Will probably try to do > that when I transition her out of the condo. Into a crate. > Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I > have a twin bed in there but am going to take the > frame out & put the mattresses on the floor cause > I don't want her hiding under the bed in the dark all the > time. Same with stuff up against the wall. There is a > low to the floor desk & I guess I will let her have that > but will barricade everything else & leave several open > crates with towels around also. > > Meanwhile her appetite is very good. > > I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't > put one of my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the > sanctuary, would loan me a nice cat but it would be positive > & that would eliminate any little chance Poppy might > have. > > Your thoughts, please please. > > Pam > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
Test is in from IDEXX. Poppy is IFA negative! BUT they did another Elisa (the first was done in-house) & she is still Elisa positive. So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to Madison right now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed info in hand. My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk positive sanctuary, says she will test positive on the next IFA in a month & all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or something else. My vet is kinda skeptical too. But you all are the ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the sanctuary) but I need your input. My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done for some reason. Will probably try to do that when I transition her out of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame out & put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the wall. There is a low to the floor desk & I guess I will let her have that but will barricade everything else & leave several open crates with towels around also. Meanwhile her appetite is very good. I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice cat but it would be positive & that would eliminate any little chance Poppy might have. Your thoughts, please please. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
