[Felvtalk] a newbie
Hi everyone: I just joined up, this is my first post. To be brief, I volunteer at our local animal shelter, and just adopted a FeLeuk+ girl. I have worked with them at the shelter, but never had one in my home, so I joined up to get some tips and help, when I need it. She is about 2 years of age, named Raja, very pretty, and also very sweet, and a happy girl. The shelter had sent in an IFA test on her, to see where she stands, and we are waiting for the results of that. I have just switched to an integrative vet, and plan to take Raja to her after we get the results. I also have 8 other cats and 1 rat, all of which came from the shelter (fallout from volunteering), and I am usually fostering for them as well, usually cats, but I’ve also had rabbits, ferrets, a hedgehog, a hamster, and rats. Now I have a mama and her 6 babies, which were born here. Of course Raja has her own room, with the rat in his cage to keep her company. Before joining I had never heard of mixing them with non leuk cats-I find this interesting. Not sure I would have the guts to do it, though. I was wondering-are there files on the home site that I can look through before I start asking questions that have probably been asked here a million times? Thanks so much for any future help. Chris C.___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] a question....or two
I am fostering to adopt two positive cats for our Animal Shelter, so as I said in my intro, I am new at this. I just noticed today that Raja has uneven pupils. I know this is not uncommon for these cats, but I was wondering if it is a random thing that happens, or if it is indicative of the stage she is in, or anything else. Any good tips on getting her to eat more? I’ve tried different dry and wet foods. She has lost a pound in 2 weeks, and was small to begin with. Thanks so much! Chris C.___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] a question....or two
Thank you so much for the quick answer, Lance. It’s wonderful to have that worry alleviated so soon. I will try those foods, and the web site. I’ve seen Tiki Cat, and it does look delicious! Thanks again-Chris C. From: Lance Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a questionor two My FeLV+ girl has anisocoria (uneven pupils). We noticed that one had changed quite a bit about four years ago. I've never read anything about it indicating the progress of the disease. I highly recommend Tiki Cat's two chicken formulas. Ember is addicted. It's definitely not cheap, but it seems to be high quality food. It's probably easier to find Fancy Feast Classic Chicken Feast, which was recommended to me here by Christiane. The ingredients might not be great, but it's very appealing to them. This site has some good ideas: http://www.felinecrf.org/persuading_cat_to_eat.htm On May 1, 2013, at 1:34 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote: I am fostering to adopt two positive cats for our Animal Shelter, so as I said in my intro, I am new at this. I just noticed today that Raja has uneven pupils. I know this is not uncommon for these cats, but I was wondering if it is a random thing that happens, or if it is indicative of the stage she is in, or anything else. Any good tips on getting her to eat more? I’ve tried different dry and wet foods. She has lost a pound in 2 weeks, and was small to begin with. Thanks so much! Chris C. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] a question....or two
Yes, I will. She sees my own vet next Monday for a consult. Thanks-Chris C. From: Lance Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 4:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a questionor two It's always a good idea to discuss any symptoms with Raja's vet. They may want to refer you to a veterinary ophthalmologist or other specialist just to confirm that nothing else is going on. On May 1, 2013, at 1:50 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote: Thank you so much for the quick answer, Lance. It’s wonderful to have that worry alleviated so soon. I will try those foods, and the web site. I’ve seen Tiki Cat, and it does look delicious! Thanks again-Chris C. From: Lance Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a questionor two My FeLV+ girl has anisocoria (uneven pupils). We noticed that one had changed quite a bit about four years ago. I've never read anything about it indicating the progress of the disease. I highly recommend Tiki Cat's two chicken formulas. Ember is addicted. It's definitely not cheap, but it seems to be high quality food. It's probably easier to find Fancy Feast Classic Chicken Feast, which was recommended to me here by Christiane. The ingredients might not be great, but it's very appealing to them. This site has some good ideas: http://www.felinecrf.org/persuading_cat_to_eat.htm On May 1, 2013, at 1:34 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote: I am fostering to adopt two positive cats for our Animal Shelter, so as I said in my intro, I am new at this. I just noticed today that Raja has uneven pupils. I know this is not uncommon for these cats, but I was wondering if it is a random thing that happens, or if it is indicative of the stage she is in, or anything else. Any good tips on getting her to eat more? I’ve tried different dry and wet foods. She has lost a pound in 2 weeks, and was small to begin with. Thanks so much! Chris C. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten?
Do cats with this have problems with their anal glands? I'm sorry for your loss. Chris C. -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten? I do know one thing, never trust a vet that says euthanize with no other alternatives. My vet is great, he tells you what could happen and then says it is up to you to keep them or not. My Annie is still going strong at 8 years (she was 4 when I got her). Nitnoy gave up her fight for life after I had her 2 years. It was not the FELV that killed her, but blocked anal glands. The ER vets missed that on sunday and I did not know until I took her to my vet on Monday. He checked her glands first thing, took care of them and I took her home to feed and love her. It was too late, She died purring as she kneaded my shoulder. You can believe that I drive the rest of my pride nuts checking their glands. That is one thing I will not be remiss on again. We learn as we go and each one of our babies teaches us something new. Maybe when it is my time to go, I will have learned all there is to know. In the meantime, I do my best, that is all I can do. Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Amanda, I'm sorry you're having this problem. First, I'd join Feline assisted feeding; http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ It is very omportant you address this immediately, to avoid liver problems. You will probably have to learn to syringe feed, at least for a short time. Cats who stop eating (for whatever reason) can forget how. They need to be reminded. First, I'd ask your Vet for an appetite stimulant, I use cyproheptadine (Periactin) but Mirtazapine is also recommended. Buy a few cans of a/d, and a 10cc luer slip tip syringe. Hills a/d is a concentrated, pureed food that is meant to be syringe fed, and is easy to use. There are others like Clinicare, which is a liquid, but it's not readily available, and is really meant for tube feeding. Please don't second guess yourself, it's worth trying. My FeLV boy, Gribble, was in very bad shape at one point, and not expected to live. I syringe fed him for about 2 weeks after he decided eating was not something he wanted to do. That was in April. Today he's playing tag with the dog (his best buddy) and generally making life interesting for the rest of the cats in the household. You might want to check and see if the anemia has returned, that might be somewhere to start with treatment. Gribbs is on Interferon and DMG, but that's it right now. All the best to you both, Margo -Original Message- From: Amanda Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com Sent: May 2, 2013 9:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What to feed a finicky, sick kitten? Hello everyone! This is my first time using this forum :) I have a ten month old kitty, Polli, who was diagnosed with FeLV about two months ago. At that time, she started licking the walls and our potted plants in addition increasing lethargy. I took her to the vet where she was diagnosed with severe anemia related to FeLV. We were told we'd have to assist her to the rainbow bridge within days of the diagnosis. Thankfully, she's a fighter and is still with us. However, her appetite has been cause for worry. She's crazy about Temptations Treats and deli ham (I know, not the most nutritious diet but I'm thankful for anything she eats). The last two days, though, she won't eat. I've offered her baby food, Tiki Cat, Ziwi's wet food, lunch meat, tuna and her favorite treats but to no avail. I understand that the end may be near but I want to give everything a shot before I make that call. So, my question is, what do you give your cat that they just can't say no to? I'd love and appreciate any suggestions! Thank you, -Amanda ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
Smaller pet stores, not chain stores, tend to have it too. Chris C. From: Lance Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember http://wholepetsholistic.com/store/ I order from those folks. On May 12, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: I've seen it listed at Chewy.com; http://www.chewy.com/cat/wet-food-389/tiki-cat and at Wags; http://www.wag.com/cat/p/tiki-cat-king-kamehameha-luau-variety-pack-146352 Too much fish for my FLUTD guys. ^..^ -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sent: May 12, 2013 3:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember Where do you get Tiki Cat? I have never seen it at Petsmart. , Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki Cat has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her a 2.8 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of food as she'll eat. On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Reporting a bite!
That is a good idea, if you are sure the cat is fine. Where I live (in WI) the animal would have to be quarantined for 10 days, with three vet visits-one at the start and the end, and one in the middle. Pain in the butt! Chris C. Lorrie On 06-05, Lee Evans wrote: Here's a suggestion to everyone who has cats or dogs. If your cat or dog has a bad hair day and bites/scratches you and you have to go to a doctor or emergency clinic because you are having a reaction to the saliva, afraid of infection or things like that, DO NOT TELL THEM THAT YOUR ANIMAL did the damage. If it's a bite, you can say that your parrot got off his perch and bit you or that you hammered a rusty nail into your finger, anything but an animal bite. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] a tough and sad day
Those are all good ideas. Thanks! Chris C. From: Lee Evans Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] a tough and sad day I'm with Lorrie - keep Augmentin in your medicine cabinet for those occasions when you decide to put your hand between two snarling cats. I have done this stupid thing twice. Now I just hurl a pot of cold water into the fray and then mop the floor as the two go to their respective favorite spots to dry off. If I have to separate a couple of entwined rolling cats, I use a broom handle. I once just slammed a box over one cat. The other cat looked puzzled, then walked away. I held the boxed cat in place for about 5 minutes, then slowly lifted the box. He shook himself off and walked away too. If you interrupt their train of thought, their focus, the fight goes away if they are neutered/spayed cats. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance
That’s a great site-thanks! I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add a cat vitamin? Chris C. From: Lance Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later. About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there. I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food: http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/ Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands like Hound Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable. On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Lance, Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms. Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it? Kasia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] struggling tonight
I don’t have anything to add to the good advice you have already gotten, but am sending good energy to all involved. Please let us know how things go. Chris C. From: Karen Harshbarger Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 8:00 AM To: moonsiste...@yahoo.com ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] struggling tonight Thanks to all for the calming support and suggestions. I guess I panic because I just lost my little Tig(Cole's brother) not that long ago (little over a month ago). It was when Tig stopped eating that he went down very fast in just a short time and he never came back to me-and I feel I did not panic enough or do enough when he first stopped eating. Rest assured he will get lots of love and I will try not to put him through a lot of useless things. Thanks again, Karen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer
Yes, ours has a community pantry, for the same reason.
Anyone can come and get food.
Chris C.
From: KG BarnCats
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 8:17 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer
Also check the local pounds - ours has certain foods they prefer to use for a
consistent diet (less tummy trouble). The other donated foods are often
re-donated to feral feeders who agree to participate in TNR.
KG
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Another thought, our small rescue group in NC will get food donations from
the public sometimes, and we usually give
some of it to people in the community that need help. Maybe she could check
with some of the local larger
rescue groups in her area to see if they might have extra food? They might
not publicize it, we don't.
Shelley
On Aug 9, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Beth wrote:
In Atlanta we have pet food pantries. You have to be income qualified.
There may be something near her for that. Sometimes rescues also get good at a
discount will sell to colony feeders.
Beth
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Desperate Rescuer
I CAN'T HELP, UP TO MY EARS $PROBLEMS, but I have heard that sometimes
Petsmart and oher pet stores offer outdated pet foods at reduced or for free.
Wouldn't hurt to look into it.
Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote:
Yes, I have gone online (she has no computer, can't afford to buy one)
and looked into the Pet Food Stamps program but since Karen has a job and is
single she is not eligible. I seems like you have to be totally down and out to
get any help, especially for animals. I can't get Medicaid because I am
regularly paying a mortgage on a house and I desperately need dental work. So
there you have it. The great American dream for those of us who actually are
doing the right thing has turned into a nightmare. Can anyone help Karen with a
donation of a gift card from a pet food supply store? That way she could save
some of her hard earned money to make a down payment on something that she can
drive to work and to her cat colonies every day, like she used to. She had just
paid off the car she had when the transmission cracked. She didn't have air
conditioning either and the windows stopped functioning. Needed another car
even before the transmission went belly up.
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!
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Re: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary
Going through old mail... I have visited there, and it is a nice place. The people who run it are very caring. Chris C. -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary You do have to be careful when choosing a place for your cats. I have one, Rustic Hollow and they have provisions for FELV cats. They do ask you give a set fee per cat per year of expected life. It is not bad considering they have 6 or 7 houses for the cats with outdoor caticos. They will provide the food your cats are used to, even my Blue Buffalo or Wellness. I wouldn't even mind retiring there to one of the houses as a live in caretaker. I have no family and I would have more than enough cats to love. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] a question
My FeLeuk girl has been pretty asymptomatic for quite a while. Now she is starting to wet the bed. Has that happened to any of your guys, and if so, what does it mean? Thanks-Chris C.___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: virus has finally caught up with her :-(
At the Shelter where I volunteer, they find that rehydrating a cat by giving sub-q usually perks up their appetite. Chris C. From: Margo Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:00 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: virus has finally caught up with her :-( Hi Jennifer, Well, I think she will need some help. I am surprised that a Vet allowed a dehydrated cat to leave without doing something about it, so I'd call and ask why. It's good that she is drinking, but it is impossible to correct clinical dehydration orally, she must have either IV or sub-q fluids. That alone MAY be enough (combined with the B-12) to start her eating again, it can be miraculous. If you don't want to try the Clavamox, then take her (what is her name?) in and request sub-q fluids (and have them show you how to do it at home) and ask about Convenia, a long-lasting injectable antibiotic. I don't generally recommend it, but it's better than nothing, and less stressful for both of you. Explain that medicating orally seems too stressful. You could ask about appetite stimulants, but they need to be given by mouth as well, so maybe you don't want to try. Much depends on how far you want to go. Sub-q's and assist feedings aren't difficult to do, but you may not have the time to give to this. I would say, even if you decide not to continue long-term care, get to the Vet (or another of you don't want to go back there) TODAY for sub-q or IV fluids, and see if that helps.. If you have to work, most Vets will allow drop-off. Please help her by getting the dehydration resolved. She feels totally lousy, and of course doesn't want to eat, or move. At least she will feel better, and that's critical, whatever course you elect to follow. All the best, Margo -Original Message- From: Jennifer Ballew Sent: Oct 9, 2013 9:40 PM To: felvtalk Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: virus has finally caught up with her :-( They took her temp yesterday and no fever. She's not showing any outward signs of infection, so that's good I guess. I'm just wondering if she's going to be able to pull out of this. :-( Jennifer On Oct 9, 2013 8:27 PM, moonsister22 moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Regular cats can also have those symptoms. The B12 shot is good. Does she have a fever? Many doctors completely neglect the simple task of taking the cat's temperature. An antibiotic injection might be of benefit. My hard and fast rule is to think simple first. My FIV positive cat had a lump on his back. It was diagnosed as probably a malignant tumor. I suggested it was a non-malignant fatty tumor. Three years later Mr. Snowy is still fat and going strong and the tumor has absorbed. Maybe it's luck and they will use up the last of their nine lives eventually but until then start off simple but cautious and do always take to vet but listen with both ears open and your brain cells on high alert. Hugs and blessings to you and the fur kids. Sent from my iPod On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Jennifer Ballew balle...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all- This is the first time I have posted to the forum. I have two FeLV positive cats, one two and one three years old. The older cat has never had any issues with illness whatsoever, but the younger has only recently started showing signs that her illness has caught up with her. Just within the last few days she has become very lethargic, stopped eating (and only drinks a small amount) and whenever she stands or walks she seems very unsteady and wobbly. I took her to the vet yesterday; they checked her blood counts which were low and said her kidney enzymes were elevated. They also said they could hear a heart murmur which is probably related to possibly being dehydrated. They gave her a B12 shot and I took her home. I already said if worst came to worst I wouldn't put her through any unnecessary treatments or subject her to any painful procedures and that I would strive only to provide the best supportive care for her while she was alive so that she would have the best chances. I'm just wondering if any of you have gone through the same thing and if I can expect her to pull out of this on her own, or, if she doesn't, how long she might have left. I'm sincerely heartbroken. I really thought I had nursed her through the most risky part of her illness (kittenhood) and that she would now go on to live a halfway long life. In any case, if anyone has any advice or information I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks all, Jennifer -- To love is to risk not being loved in return. To hope is to risk pain. To try is to risk failure, But risk must be taken, Because the greatest hazard in life Is to risk nothing. --Leo Buscaglia
Re: [Felvtalk] Gum redness
You can get DMG without a prescription at Amazon, and I imagine many other places. That's where I get it. Chris C. -Original Message- From: Lance Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:32 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Gum redness Just saw your post here and on the Yahoo! list, but thought that it’d be better if I replied here. Before we knew my FeLV+ cat was FeLV+, her then-vet said that her gums were becoming irritated, and that I needed to switch her to Prescription Diet t/d. I did, and the irritation seemed to go away. She hasn't had any stomatitis or gingivitis issues since then *that I know of*. I don’t know that this is the best solution to Kitty’s issue, but it might be something you could look into as a supplemental option, if she’s good about eating dry food and you think she’s not to the point where it hurts to eat. I don’t give Ember t/d as free-fed dry food any more, but instead give it to her as a treat (four or five pieces in the morning and again at night). Prescription Diet is not the best food, but the texture/composition of this particular formula seem to help with teeth and gum problems. I think it would be good to consider giving Kitty interferon alpha and/or DMG. The latter is very inexpensive and easy to dose (either in semi-hard treat form or liquid form), and it does boost the immune system a bit. Your holistic vet might be able to tell you more about DMG and interferon. Best wishes for Kitty, Lance On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Avaykn ava...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Beth, Thank you so much, she gets : lysine 500mg a day a feline multivitamin, Tabby tabs, Missing link amino supplement Mush a powdery mix of mushrooms Is there anything else I might be missing to give her. She is at a little over 10lbs and gets canned food twice a day and dr Lisa Pierson's raw chicken recipe once a day. Thanks, Mally Sent from my iPhone. On Oct 29, 2013, at 21:17, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: It could be the beginnings of Stomatitis. It's pretty common in the FeLV kits. I've had a couple with it. Nasty stuff. Try the L-lysine. I used that with something else once it worked great, but I can't for the life of me remember what it was. Beth Avaykn ava...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Kitty, our 16 months old FeLV positive cat is showing a little redness on her gums on her bottom left incisors. I have rubbed a little liquid vitamin E and she has received a dosage of Calcarea carbonica, I'm working with a holistic vet, but I was wondering what if any steps have any of you taken when faced with this situation. Thanks, Mally and Kitty Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Need home for FELV cat in Ft. Worth
CW only accepts cats from Shelters, not individuals, unless the owner of the cat dies. It’s a great place, though. I took a cat from our Shelter there last summer and got a tour. The ladies running the place are extremely dedicated. They have had FeLeuk cats there live a good life, to their teens. Chris C. From: Karen Harshbarger Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org ; gbl...@aristotle.net Subject: [Felvtalk] Need home for FELV cat in Ft. Worth To felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Today at 7:53 PM Gloria Lane and Lance, There are two shelters that I know of in Iowa that rescue Feline Leukemia cats Carmen Conklin at CW Shelter in Northeast Iowa cwshel...@wildblue.net; and Witty Kitty in Solon, Iowa Jennifer Doll jkd...@gmail.com. Not sure how they would get there but maybe they know of a transport if they have an available spot. There is a transport that helps with dogs called Heinz 57 Rescue and Transport in Desoto, Ia. --- maybe they would help with the cat. Also, this lady with the feline leukemia cat needs to know that one test does not a diagnosis make depending upon the test used. It could be a false positive, if the cat is young, it could fight it off with good medical care (I got lucky and had 4 that fought it off), the cat can live with feline leukemia (probably just a shortened life), etc. Is there a reason she does not want to keep the cat? Please keep me posted. Thanks, Karen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] euthanized Shallie Marie, yesterday the last of my
I’m so sorry. Chris C. From: Beth Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 2:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] euthanized Shallie Marie, yesterday the last of my So sorry! My thoughts are with you the fur baby. Beth Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com; To: feline leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Subject: [Felvtalk] euthanized Shallie Marie, yesterday the last of my Sent: Sat, Jan 4, 2014 7:53:53 PM a.. six that tested positive in March 2010. b.. c.. Thanks for being with us - - lights in the darkness. I had suspected she was crashing. Vets thought it was dental . . . two weeks later. will leave it there. d.. e.. Now she joins her intrepid son Isaac, Mama and Luscious, Torie Rose and BreAnne. cz ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is better care for her than she would get from a traditional vet. Just my experience... Chris C. -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv What are your thoughts on this? Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv
Yes, sadly they are not cheap. Chris C. -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv I'm actually going to have to cancel their appointment. Can't pay for it. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:48 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote: My FeLeuk girl sees an integrative vet, who practices both holistic and traditional medicine. She gets bicom treatments from her, as well as various holistic medicines. She is stable and even gaining weight on this regimen. I think this is better care for her than she would get from a traditional vet. Just my experience... Chris C. -Original Message- From: Kelley Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Holistic vs traditional vets for felv What are your thoughts on this? Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
