Re: [Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS/reply

[kat]

Dot,

 Your husband sounds like a real kitty lover too!! The shelters he has put 
together sound great and I hope the kitties weather the storm safely.

 I have been told that there is a high pressure system out in the Atlantic 
(near Iceland?) that is preventing Sandy from going out to sea. So I have been 
sending "dissipate" prayers to that system so that Sandy can change direction 
before making landfall this evening!! I'm located in the northwest corner of 
NJ, so I shouldn't get "hit", but losing power is always a concern.

 Your kitties are in my prayers!!

 Kat ("Mew" Jersey)
- Original Message -
From: dot winkler
Sent: 10/28/12 09:11 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS/reply

 I am in Freehold, NJ. Inland So, you are in New York? Or is that near Long 
Island? Do you have any outdoor colonies? My hub over the last year has built 
small dog house type shelters (he is a carpenter) with tarping on the rooves. 
They are surrounded by tee pee pallets piled on each other. Then covered in 
tarping or plastic stapled on with his staple gun. There are piles of furniture 
dumped in the area and some of the houses are within those, protected. There 
are 2 dry feed stations we just filled tonight. I just still am very worried. 
Hoping they will be okay. What experiences have you had with storms and the 
cats?  From: Christiane Biagi 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 
28, 2012 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS Am in Westchester 
(New Rochelle). Where are you? From:Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dot winkler Sent: 
Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: 
[Felvtalk] STORM - QUESTIONS I went to the outdoor cat colony and dumped large 
amounts of dry food in the 2 protected stations. I am very worried about the 
cats with the hurricane. We constructed small dog-house like houses for them 
with tee pees around them from wood pallets and some plastic. What's the 
general consensu? How have any of your outdoor cat colonies done in the 
hurricane situations? In Hurricane Irene, the group did okay but this one they 
are saying is worse. Do any of you live around this area of the hurricane 
approaching?  
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RE: my cat is not having bowel movements (jayden)

[Kat]

Be careful of the mineral oil - mix it well into food, no "puddles".
My vet has said that cats don't smell the oil and can "inhale" it, causing
respiratory distress.
Kat (Mew Jersey)


On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:24:50 -0700
> From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: my cat is not having bowel movements  (jayden)
>
> How about a little bit of mineral oil - when I was raising a kitten
> since she was one day old - there was a time that she did not poop over
> a week - and per my holistic vet recommendation, I used mineral oil
> (after trying with syllium husk for a few days) - it worked like a
> miracle - it came right out!  Also - I had a similar problem with Oreo
> and JoJo after their disc surgery and it worked right away for both of
> them as well!.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:22 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: re:my cat is not having bowel movements (jayden)
>
> I'm surprised that the canned pumpkin didn't work.  Have you tried
> hairball ointment?  Let us know what the vet says today.  I know some
> people do use plain old vaseline for hairball control instead of
> laxotone or some other specific product.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  hello list
> i need some advice... my son is urinating okay but no stool at all in
> the last 3 days. i need to know if vaseline (white petroleum jelly) is
> okay for a cat? just a little on the paw too loosen the stool. Ive tryed
> pumpkin,olive oil and butter?? please email me back i dont know what
> else to try???/?
>
>
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RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!

[Kat]

I do wish we could get a resolution passed to allow the hunters to be
hunted too!

Every hunter should be required to carry x amount of life insurance
(aka death benefits) and they should be "fair game" if caught hunting
out of season, or hunting in a no trespassing area, or hunting endangered
species, or...

This way (assuming this would be enough of a deterrant), MAYBE they would
pay attention to what they do and how they do it.

(I do not mean to insult the hunters who follow the rules and use all
parts of what they kill - only the idiots who would shoot a cow thinking
it was a deer, or the ones who use fireworks to flush out their prey,
etc.)

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005, Chris wrote:

> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:05:35 -0400
> From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
>
> It is amazing to me that 12,000 people voted and that almost 7000 voted for
> this ridiculous proposition!  It would be easy to say that this is some sort
> of Wisconsin fluke but unfortunately there are far too many folks out there
> who consider all animals as nuisances and fair game for their high powered
> toys.  The only ray of hope is that cats are pretty fast and if we're lucky
> these lunatics will only end up shooting each other!
>
> By the way, does the resolution call for allowing cat hunts everywhere in
> Wisconsin--rural & populated areas
>
> Chris
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BONNIE J KALMBACH
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:28 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: OT: Wisconsin cat hunting: bad and good news!
>
>
> The bad news is that the advisory vote on the resolution to make cats
> an unprotected species won, but the good news is that head of the DNR
> says there will be no cat hunt.
>
> The question was passed in a statewide advisory vote by those who
> attended the annua; Conservation Congress meetings held in each
> county. The vote was 6,830 in favor and 5,201 opposed to the idea. The
> results of this vote go to the Natural Resources Board which then
> recommends changing any laws to the state legislature - but as Scott
> Hassett, the DNR secretary is adamantly opposed to a cat hunt, this is
> probably the end of the matter for now.
>
> The DNR knows that allowing cats to be hunted would cause a lot of
> legal problems  (e.g. people often can't tell if a cat is a true feral
> or a stray or a just a barn cat wandering around) that many farmers
> would close their land to hunters, that tourism would be affected, and
> with the DNR budget having been slashed, like those of so many state
> agencies these days, they just want to avoid all the problems and
> headaches that would ensue.
>
> A lot of people are hoping this is a wake-up call to those who let
> their cats run free and don't spay or neuter.
>
> reporting from Wisconsin,
> Bonnie Kalmbach
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: emergency advice on starved cat needed

[Kat]

Jenn,
I know this is after the fact - but I wasn't online last night...
Dasani water (by the makers of Coke) has potassium and magnesium added.
It's probable not very much - but it's better than most water.
I hope she's doing better this morning!
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 25 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 23:23:33 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: emergency advice on starved cat needed
>
> Let it be said, cats do not like fruit or fruit punch! She did, however, 
> swallow at least 2CC's worth. The yogurt has more potassium than the 
> Gatorade, and it has the beneficial gut flora too, so I think I'll keep with 
> that instead, she seems to take it better than the Gatorade. :)
>
> Jenn
>
> ~~~
> If she took something blueberry flavored she might let you syringe a bit of 
> Gatorade.. you never know!
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Re: emergency advice on starved cat needed

[Kat]

Jenn,
Also remember the raw liver shake - it can be very nourishing.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

> On Wed, 25 May 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 23:23:33 -0400
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: emergency advice on starved cat needed
> >
> > Let it be said, cats do not like fruit or fruit punch! She did, however, 
> > swallow at least 2CC's worth. The yogurt has more potassium than the 
> > Gatorade, and it has the beneficial gut flora too, so I think I'll keep 
> > with that instead, she seems to take it better than the Gatorade. :)
> >
> > Jenn
> >
> > ~~~
> > If she took something blueberry flavored she might let you syringe a bit of 
> > Gatorade.. you never know!
> >

Re: Help

[Kat]

Jennifer,
Where are you located??
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, JENNIFER RATLIFF wrote:

> Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:56:54 -0400
> From: JENNIFER RATLIFF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Help
>
>
> I need help with my 3 year old FELV+ baby Sebastian.  Sebastian, I believe, 
> was born positive.  His
> life has been wonderful until recently.  He has lost weight, hair, and has 
> weakness in his hind legs.
> His eating habits are good.  I just don't know what to do.  I have taken him 
> to three different vets
> and no one is doing what I want.  I want to know why all of these things are 
> happening and I want to
> fix them.  I have to do everything that I can to help him.  I will be 
> devastated when something happens
> to him.  For about two years he was getting steroid shots monthly.  This was 
> recently stopped and now
> he is on Interferon.   I need to know if anyone knows of any feline leukemia 
> specialists, any great
> websites.  I will take him to whatever vet that I need to.  I just need 
> advice as to what to do next.
>
>
>

Re: Problem - I think?-HOLD THE TEA TREE!!

[Kat]

Hi All,
The part of the Aloe that is toxic is the Latex layer beneath the skin.
This is NOT the part used for commercial Aloe preparations/gels.  So
as long as you don't cut open an Aloe leaf and rub it on your cat, it
is okay to use the gel.  As always, check the labels and try not to use
a formula loaded with preservatives.

Tea Tree Oil - however - is a NO NO for Cats!!
Cats cannot metabolize the oils like dogs and humans can, and it ends up
harming the liver.  Even Cat Fancy has run articles warning against using
most essential oils on Cats.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

Re: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad

[Kat]

Hi Belinda, all -
I just spoke with Teresa on the phone, and will be
meeting up with her on Sunday to pick up the little
blind kitten. I live in Northern NJ, so it's really
not that far for me.  I'll post more after Sunday.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Belinda Sauro wrote:

> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:42:27 -0700
> From: Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: "FeLV Talk List [New]" 
> Subject: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help  -  Blind Kitten Very Sad
>
> Please forward and cross-post to anyone you think might be able to help, 
> thank you --
>
> I am looking for a special home for a blind kitten. He was unfortunately born 
> with no eyes. His mom tends to ignore him to care for her other kitten & his 
> litter mate is off playing with the others. He is a barn cat and 
> unfortunately I just can't take him in right now. I already have 4 of my own 
> & my hubby would shoot me if I brought home another one. The kitten is 
> starting to wander & it's heart breaking to see him bumping into things. He 
> wanders around the horses when we aren't there & I'm afraid he is going to be 
> stepped on. This little guy just needs someone to give him alittle extra TLC 
> so he can adapt to this world he cannot see. I would prefer an indoor home so 
> he is sheltered from the "Big Outdoors"
> If I can't find him a home, I am going to have to have him humanely 
> euthanized, which I am prepared to do, but would like to see him in a loving 
> home instead.
> Please contact me if you or someone you know is willing to offer this little 
> guy a home. He is located in NY
> 607-767-1073 or 607-271-3141
>
> Thank You
> Teresa   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
>  Belinda
> Happiness is being owned by cats ...
>
> Be-Mi-Kitties ...
> http://www.bemikitties.com
>
> Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
> http://adopt.bemikitties.com
>
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> http://www.bemikitties.com/cls
>
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> ---
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RE: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad

[Kat]

Hi Hideyo,
Teresa says he'll be okay where he is until I get there.
(actually, they still aren't sure he's a "he" yet) and I will
end up keeping him as long as the rest of the crew warms up
to him.

I will have my vet check him over and test for FIV/FeLV and
then I'll see how well he does with the crew. It won't be the
first kitten I've rescued - last year I rescued a tiny little
black boy from a co-worker's back yard - named him "Solo" since
he was the only kitten (mom was a feral). He was born without
his upper eyeLIDS, and when my vet neutered him, she did some
cosmetic surgery and formed eyelids out of some extra skin below
each eye.  Now he thinks he's just the cutest little Cat's Meow...
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:29:22 -0600
> From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help  -  Blind Kitten Very Sad
>
> Kat, you are so wonderful I got goose bumps when I saw your
> posting -
> Will you be able to take care of him or what is the plan for this little
> guy?
>
> Can Teresa keep him an indoor until Sunday so that nothing will happen
> to him?
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:29 PM
> To: FeLV Talk List [New]
> Subject: Re: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad
>
> Hi Belinda, all -
> I just spoke with Teresa on the phone, and will be
> meeting up with her on Sunday to pick up the little
> blind kitten. I live in Northern NJ, so it's really
> not that far for me.  I'll post more after Sunday.
> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Belinda Sauro wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:42:27 -0700
> > From: Belinda Sauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > To: "FeLV Talk List [New]" 
> > Subject: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help  -  Blind Kitten Very Sad
> >
> > Please forward and cross-post to anyone you think might be able to
> help, thank you --
> >
> > I am looking for a special home for a blind kitten. He was
> unfortunately born with no eyes. His mom tends to ignore him to care for
> her other kitten & his litter mate is off playing with the others. He is
> a barn cat and unfortunately I just can't take him in right now. I
> already have 4 of my own & my hubby would shoot me if I brought home
> another one. The kitten is starting to wander & it's heart breaking to
> see him bumping into things. He wanders around the horses when we aren't
> there & I'm afraid he is going to be stepped on. This little guy just
> needs someone to give him alittle extra TLC so he can adapt to this
> world he cannot see. I would prefer an indoor home so he is sheltered
> from the "Big Outdoors"
> > If I can't find him a home, I am going to have to have him humanely
> euthanized, which I am prepared to do, but would like to see him in a
> loving home instead.
> > Please contact me if you or someone you know is willing to offer this
> little guy a home. He is located in NY
> > 607-767-1073 or 607-271-3141
> >
> > Thank You
> > Teresa   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > --
> >  Belinda
> > Happiness is being owned by cats ...
> >
> > Be-Mi-Kitties ...
> > http://www.bemikitties.com
> >
> > Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
> > http://adopt.bemikitties.com
> >
> > FeLV Candle Light Service
> > http://www.bemikitties.com/cls
> >
> > HostDesign4U.com  (affordable hosting & web design)
> > http://HostDesign4U.com
> >
> > ---
> >
> > BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)
> > http://bmk.bemikitties.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

RE: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad

[Kat]

Teresa says the horses don't stay near the barn except for feeding,
and the kitten doesn't venture too far (stays mostly around the
d-g house that's set up for the mom-cat).  And during feeding, someone
is always there to keep an eye on the little one - and they try to
supplement the mom's milk with KMR.  The mom cat is a feral barn cat,
and they do see him nurse from her, so if Teresa brings him home there
will be less feeding, less interaction with people, etc.
I'm going to see if there are any low cost spay clinics in her area so
she/they can get the mom-cat spayed. Keep your fingers and paws crossed.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:51:13 -0600
> From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help  -  Blind Kitten Very Sad
>
> I hope so, too - especially because of how she described his situation,
> bumping into things or being stepped by horses -
> Please ask Teresa if there is anyway to keep him in a bathroom or
> something until you get there - or maybe he can stay at a clinic who
> will watch him until you get there - I wouldn't even mind paying for the
> cost as long as it's a good place and make sure to take care of him
> until you arrive-
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:48 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad
>
> Kat,
> I hope he's okay until you get there to rescue him, there's no way they
> can take him in?  After all, her husband shouldn't object, they know
> they won't be keeping him now.  Did you talk with Teresa about trapping
> that momma cat and getting her spayed?  She sounds like she has some
> compassion for their predicament, after all, she did post about wee
> little winky.  (I have a few choice words for her husband, but I'll
> censor myself!).
>
> That's wonderful about Solo's successful cosmetic surgery!  You must
> have a wonderful vet.  Thank you so much for all you do for our animal
> friends.
> Nina
>
> Kat wrote:
>
> >Hi Hideyo,
> >Teresa says he'll be okay where he is until I get there.
> >(actually, they still aren't sure he's a "he" yet) and I will
> >end up keeping him as long as the rest of the crew warms up
> >to him.
> >
> >I will have my vet check him over and test for FIV/FeLV and
> >then I'll see how well he does with the crew. It won't be the
> >first kitten I've rescued - last year I rescued a tiny little
> >black boy from a co-worker's back yard - named him "Solo" since
> >he was the only kitten (mom was a feral). He was born without
> >his upper eyeLIDS, and when my vet neutered him, she did some
> >cosmetic surgery and formed eyelids out of some extra skin below
> >each eye.  Now he thinks he's just the cutest little Cat's Meow...
> >Kat (Mew Jersey)
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Re: Fwd: [NJCares] Attention: Noah's Ark Rescue / Blind Kitten -Attention Kat

[Kat]

Hi,
I'm the one who is picking up the blind kitty from Teresa.
My name is Kat Mundell and I do volunteer, rescue and fostering
with Noah's Ark Animal Welfare Association in Ledgewood, NJ.
(a no kill shelter).
The shelter's number is (973) 347-0378 in case you'd like to
call them and verify who I am.
Their hours are M-TH 11:00am - 2:30pm
F-SU 11:00am - 3:30pm
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Joan Doljan wrote:

> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:09:11 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Joan Doljan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Fwd: [NJCares] Attention: Noah's Ark Rescue / Blind Kitten
> -Attention Kat
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:21:37 EDT
> Subject: [NJCares] Attention: Noah's Ark Rescue / Blind Kitten
>
> Hi,
>
> I was told by Teresa, who has the blind kitten in NY, that a volunteer from
> Noah's Ark rescue in NJ would be taking him this week. Teresa does not even
> know  the last name of the person she is giving the kitten to. Could someone
> from  Noah's Ark please confirm that you are, indeed, picking up the blind
> kitten? She said the person who is picking him up is named Cat.
>
> Thanks!
> Shell
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Re: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!

[Kat]

Dear Hideyo,
I too hope you convince George to let you catch him soon.

Have you really scrubbed out the trap and then sprayed it
with some feliway and sprinkled catnip all over it?
Sometimes you really have to change the smell of the trap.

Is the trap inside a large black garbage bag that is taped
around it to keep it from flapping in the wind?  Some cats
find the safety of a "hole" more reassuring than an open trap.

Good luck!
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:55:50 -0600
> From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!
>
> Hi, I mentioned to you a little bit, but I have been trying to capture
> one of my feral boys, George for a couple of weeks now, I feel like he
> is getting thinner to me, and he barely  eats (he sips juice from fish
> can's soup) and I am just so worried about this guy - He does not go
> into a trap since I screwed it up last time, so I feel like the only
> chance I have in order to catch him is with a fish net - I caught three
> cats in the pat with fish net - it's more riskier than trap, but I feel
> like I shouldn't wait too long to catch him because of his health
> condition- and don't know any other way that I can - I also have an
> appointment to talk to Dr. Ryan (AC) so that I can find out more about
> his condition now -  and if she has any meditation or suggestions as to
> how I can catch him succesfully before it's too late -
>
> According to Jasmine (AC)  whom I spoke with a couple of weeks ago , he
> has a moderate kidney problem and might have an infection with one of
> his long teeth (I have given some antibiotics in his food for a couple
> of time) - he is also willing to be adopted by me (at least he is
> willing to give a try) -
>
> Please pray that I can successfully catch him very soon and he will be
> safe and Ok until I can catch him!   Thank you!
>
>
>
> Hideyo
>
>

Re: (UPDATE) Attention: Noah's Ark Rescue / Blind Kitten

[Kat]

Hi All,

I picked up the blind kitten this weekend (he's actually a She), and one
of her sisters (I figured her sister would help her adjust faster).
No names yet, but I'm leaning towards Artemis and Athena from mythology.
(Artemis: Greek Goddess of the night and the hunt. Protector of women.
Athena: Goddess of wisdom, war, art, industry, justice, and skill.)  They
are both 4-5 weeks old, grey & black tabbies. I'm bottle feeding them at
the moment, but hope to get them eating on their own in a week or 2.
I'll try to get some pictures...

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, Mari Kolbe wrote:

> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:47:50 -0500
> From: Mari Kolbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [NJCares] Attention: Noah's Ark Rescue / Blind
> Kitten-Attention Kat
>
> I am so glad to see that this kitten is indeed going to be rescued. The
> request for help has been posted on a dozen different lists by many people.
> There have been a couple of offers to rescue this kitten but no one seemed
> to know if the kitten still needed help or had been rescued. It would be
> nice Kat, if you could have the original poster you responded to forward
> this information to the original list with the request to cross post so that
> first everyone would know this little one has a home, secondly it does all
> of us in rescue good to see a happy ending to a rescue story - it is what
> keeps us going and thirdly time spent posting this kitten's plight could be
> then spent on the next little one who needs our help. I know that there is a
> little blind kitten in Clayton, Alabama that really needs help finding a
> home and possibly one of the individuals who expressed interest in your
> little guy could arrange to have him transported to them.
>  Again, Kat - thanks for posting that he had been rescued and bless you for
> opening your home and your heart to this special little kitten. We provide a
> forever home for special needs babies and have several little ones who are
> blind from birth defects, URI's or torture - they have got to be the
> sweetest little creatures.
>  /mari
>
>  On 6/16/05, Kat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm the one who is picking up the blind kitty from Teresa.
> > My name is Kat Mundell and I do volunteer, rescue and fostering
> > with Noah's Ark Animal Welfare Association in Ledgewood, NJ.
> > (a no kill shelter).
> > The shelter's number is (973) 347-0378 in case you'd like to
> > call them and verify who I am.
> > Their hours are M-TH 11:00am - 2:30pm
> > F-SU 11:00am - 3:30pm
> > Kat (Mew Jersey)
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Joan Doljan wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:09:11 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Joan Doljan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Fwd: [NJCares] Attention: Noah's Ark Rescue / Blind Kitten
> > > -Attention Kat
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:21:37 EDT
> > > Subject: [NJCares] Attention: Noah's Ark Rescue / Blind Kitten
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I was told by Teresa, who has the blind kitten in NY, that a volunteer
> > from
> > > Noah's Ark rescue in NJ would be taking him this week. Teresa does not
> > even
> > > know the last name of the person she is giving the kitten to. Could
> > someone
> > > from Noah's Ark please confirm that you are, indeed, picking up the
> > blind
> > > kitten? She said the person who is picking him up is named Cat.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Shell
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > /mari (SpiritCat)
> > Until there are none, adopt one.
> > SpiritCat and the Mooseheart Mumpkees
> > of southeastern Texas
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>

Re: George update - part II

[Kat]

Yay Hideyo!!
Glad you got George, and very happy to hear about Squeaky!
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:23:22 -0600
> From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: George update - part II
>
> Thank you SOOO much everyone for sending George and
> myself a positive energy and prayer!!
>
> I finally CAUGHT George last night - I tell you it was one of the most
> scary things I had to do (emotional wise).  I knew that I was not going
> to be given a second chance if I messed it up, but I also did not want
> to regret by not trying since I did not know how long he was going to
> come see me regularly like he has been for the past two weeks, which has
> been a miracle to me as well.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I finally caught him in a fish net, and it was not a pretty site
> - he got all tangled in a net and I had a very difficult time to
> transfer him from the net to a dog trap - I had to tear up all the net
> to get him out - but no matter how difficult it was, I was so determined
> not to mess it up - I kept apologizing to George about scaring him like
> this while I was doing it  - poor baby, his mouth was bleeding from the
> net - I felt so bad - but I somehow he knew that I was doing so to help
> him (because he did not bite me (and he so could have), and let me
> scratch his head during this trauma-
>
>
>
> He is in a crate right now, he ate all the food I gave to him last night
> (chicken with broth) and even ate some dry food, too - I was very glad,
> because some feral cats I rescue usually don't eat for at least 24 hour
> or so due to the stress -
>
>
>
> I am planning to take him in to a vet soon, am not sure if I should have
> them anesthetize him for a brief time so that they can draw a blood from
> him and check him out thoroughly  (I hate to do that to him), or try to
> hold him without anesthesia which also can be stressful.  He is not
> neutered yet, but I would like to wait until his health recovers and I
> know what we are dealing with before I have him go though the surgery.
>
>
>
> I also let Squeaky out from a crate (she is the one who has been tested
> negative, positive, equivocal, and indeterminate and all that stuff on
> FIV test since March) - she was in a crate for so long, I couldn't do it
> to her  anymore - I promised her a good life when I re-trapped her after
> my neighbor dumped, and I feel like I was not keeping my promise to her
> though I only mean to keep her in a crate for a very short amount of
> time, and I did not expect this test results back that way for that long
> - anyway, she IS finally OUT of a crate - when I did, I cried so hard, I
> did not know why, but the tears couldn't stop falling - I guess I was
> glad that she was finally out - she is very cute, she still goes back to
> a crate to sleep as she feels safe there - but I am leaving the door
> open so that she can go back and forth if she wants to - this morning I
> found her on the bed with me, as soon as she saw me wake, she freaked
> out and jumped down...
>
>
>
> Please pray that George's health will only get better going forward!
> Thank you again everyone for your support!
>
>
>
> Hideyo
>
>

Re: question bout kittens....

[Kat]

Hi MC -
Since you know the status of your current kittens & moms and
if at least one of your mom-cats has been vaccinated for FeLV,
would it be possible to combine 2 litters so that the vaccinated
mom could nurse these 2 new unknowns?
I don't think testing @ 2 weeks would be very reliable, and it
would be too risky mixing unknowns in with your current kittens,
but if you could free up 1 of the moms...
Kat (Mew Jersey)
who is taking Athena and Artemis to see the vet today
I'll post more tomorrow!
On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, TenHouseCats wrote:

> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:16:57 -0400
> From: TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: FeLVTalk 
> Subject: question bout kittens
>
> okay, group, need opinions here.
>
> i currently am the estrogen zone for my part of the state--turned my
> front room (formerly cat-free space, for doing crafts) into a nursery.
> four condo cages, one floor-to-ceiling cat tree, scratching posts,
> lots of toys, etc. 3 big windows, a/c, their own bathroom (well, their
> own close-by water supply, at least!).
>
> i currently have four nursing moms, and 24 kittens. (21 biological
> kittens and 3 orphans). all the moms are negative, so i'm assuming
> the kittens are as well.
>
> i've been asked to take in 2 two-week-old orphans. i'm wondering how
> everyone defines, "PROLONGED, PERSISTENT CONTACT"--ie, do you think
> that nursing for another couple of weeks would be enough to pass the
> virus? i WILL test the kittens if i get them, but they're so young i'm
> not sure i'll trust the results.).  or should i just bottle-feed
> them and keep them separated? (just heard from the woman who has them,
> and they're not doing a bottle very well--a momcat and sibkits to
> cuddle with might be much better for them, but of course i don't want
> to harm the other kittens)
>
> thoughts, please!
>
> thanks
> --
> MaryChristine
>
> AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ: 289856892
>
>

Update on the little blind kitten

[Kat]

Hi All,

Athena, the little blind kitty, and her sister Artemis went to the vet
yesterday.  My vet says Artemis weighs 12.5 oz and Athena weighs 11.5 oz.
Both got dewormed (strongid) and are too young (only 5 weeks old) to be
tested or vaccinated, so they'll go back in about 3-4 weeks.

My vet says Athena's right eye socket has no orb at all, anf the left
socket has a very small orb, but that she still probably can't even see
shadows.  But we'll be re-checking each time she goes to the vet.  It
doesn't affect her good nature - she loves to be held, cuddled, and bottle
fed.  She was having some difficulty transitioning to drinking from a
bowl, so I set up a small water bottle in her cage, and both kittens have
adapted quite well to it.  Artemis enjoys being cuddled too (what kitten
doesn't - even if it's only from the mom-cat).

I've created a photo album so you could see their pictures.  Go to
http://albums.bemikitties.com/
scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the Pet Albums category
and then click on "Athena and Artemis" for their pictures.
(Thank you Belinda for creating the Be-mi-kitties website!!)

They were named after 2 greek goddesses:
Artemis is the greek goddess of the hunt and protector of women.
Athena is the greek goddess of wisdom and justice (and justice is always
blind)

Kat (Mew Jersey)

Re: My Rescue Senior Siamese...not good :(

[Kat]

Oh Terrie,
I'm sorry it's Ling's time to leave, but so grateful to you for showing
him love, dignity and respect - Gentle hugs to both of you.
Kat (Mew Jersey)
---
Good morning all,
Remember the Senior Siamese that was willed to me?
Well, I'm going to be taking him to the Vet today to send him off to the
bridge. He is in the final
phase of kidney failure. I don't want him to suffer anymore so I have
decided to let him go. He has
stopped eating three days ago. I have force fed him and he is throwing it
all back up. He has also been
fed intravenously as well. He has loss so much weight as well.
He was about 15 yrs old when I got him. He was in poor health and all. He
was Hyper-T so that didn't
help matters. He had 7 claws imbedded into his pads (minor surgery) and
Ear Mites prior to me getting
him.
I'm going to do this without my husband around because he always makes it
harder. (he is a softy)
So wish "Ling" a safe journey to the bridge.


[IMAGE]
Terrie Mohr

Re: OT: St. Francis Medals! And the AW rescuers...

[Kat]

Hi Jen,
Would it be possible to send some of the medals down to the
Angel Wings Rescuers who have been working so tirelessly for
the unfortunate animals that got caught up in all of this??
I know it's not much to give them in return for what they've
been doing, but I think it would be marvelous if it could be
done.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:35:20 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: OT:  St. Francis Medals!
>
> Hi All!
>
> Hope ya'll had a wonderful 4th of July weekend!  I haven't been able to
> keep up with my Inbox for the past few weeks...but I want to send my
> best to all of our beautiful fur-babies...
>
> My Dad was down this past weekend!  He just couldn't say enough
> wonderful things about the amazing group of people on this list... :)
> He kept telling me, "If you need any more medals, just let me know and
> I'll send them to you!"  I've got plenty of medals here, and I know a
> few of you guys expressed an interest in wishing to give medals to
> friends/family/other rescuers (which, of course, is so NOT a
> problem!)...so the invitation goes out to everyone...if you'd like more
> than one medal, just let me know!  I've got a file with everyone's
> addresses, so I'll get them out this week!
>
> I'll also include the prayer that my Dad used to bless the medals...it's
> really sweet because he mostly thought it up himself especially for this
> group...then, of course, he told me, "Now, if you need anymore medals,
> please let me know!"  :)
>
> Take care, All!
>
> Jen
>
> 
> "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
> unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
> become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
> Saint-Exupéry
>
> "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
> each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
> you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
> George
>
>

Re: OT: St. Francis Medals! And the AW rescuers...ATTN: Jenn ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

[Kat]

Jenn,

When you get some time...
Could you send Jen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) a list of the rescuers that
have been down in the trenches with this whole Angel Wings nightmare so
that she can send them some of the St Francis Medals too?

Thank you so much for all of the information you've been relaying for the
rest of us!!

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 15:06:17 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: OT:  St. Francis Medals! And the AW rescuers...
>
> Absolutely!  I've been catching up with my posts and just saw the photos
> of the FeLV cats that came out of that "shelter"...I can't even put into
> words how I feel right now...angry/sad/helpless just doesn't even start
> to cut it...but I had thought of sending medals as well, and I feel so
> dumb for hesitating to offer for fear that someone might be offended by
> what could be perceived as a "religious symbol"...you guys have reminded
> me over and over again that St. Francis trancends faith!  :)  Thanks,
> Kat, for speaking up and reminding me, again, what an awesome group of
> people this is!  I would love to send on as many medals as the Rescuers
> would need...I just need an address and an approximate number of medals
> that would be needed...I would also like to make note on the prayer that
> the medals are a gift from our entire group, if that's okay with you guys!
>
>
> 
> "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be
> unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You
> become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine de
> Saint-Exupéry
>
> "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know
> each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what
> you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan
> George
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Kat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2005 2:29 pm
> Subject: Re: OT:  St. Francis Medals! And the AW rescuers...
>
> > Hi Jen,
> > Would it be possible to send some of the medals down to the
> > Angel Wings Rescuers who have been working so tirelessly for
> > the unfortunate animals that got caught up in all of this??
> > I know it's not much to give them in return for what they've
> > been doing, but I think it would be marvelous if it could be
> > done.
> > Kat (Mew Jersey)
> >
> > On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:35:20 -0500
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: OT:  St. Francis Medals!
> > >
> > > Hi All!
> > >
> > > Hope ya'll had a wonderful 4th of July weekend!  I haven't been
> > able to
> > > keep up with my Inbox for the past few weeks...but I want to send my
> > > best to all of our beautiful fur-babies...
> > >
> > > My Dad was down this past weekend!  He just couldn't say enough
> > > wonderful things about the amazing group of people on this
> > list... :)
> > > He kept telling me, "If you need any more medals, just let me
> > know and
> > > I'll send them to you!"  I've got plenty of medals here, and I
> > know a
> > > few of you guys expressed an interest in wishing to give medals to
> > > friends/family/other rescuers (which, of course, is so NOT a
> > > problem!)...so the invitation goes out to everyone...if you'd
> > like more
> > > than one medal, just let me know!  I've got a file with everyone's
> > > addresses, so I'll get them out this week!
> > >
> > > I'll also include the prayer that my Dad used to bless the
> > medals...it's> really sweet because he mostly thought it up himself
> > especially for this
> > > group...then, of course, he told me, "Now, if you need anymore
> > medals,> please let me know!"  :)
> > >
> > > Take care, All!
> > >
> > > Jen
> > >
> > > 
> > > "But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you
> > will be
> > > unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the
> > world; You
> > > become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --
> > Antoine de
> > > Saint-Exupéry
> > >
> > > "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will
> > know> each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know
> > them, and what
> > > you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --
> > Chief Dan
> > > George
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Please add Flavia to CLS Belinda

[Kat]

Kerry,
I'm so sorry Flavia is gone -
I'm glad you were able to spend the last night with her, and that you were
still here and the one who she "told" when she was ready, but it's so very
hard to let them go - even knowing they will be made whole again, waiting
for us at the Rainbow Bridge.  Please know that she wanted you to know
this and to be at peace with this before you went away so you wouldn't be
worrying about her.  My thoughts and prayers are with you at this sad
time.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Kerry MacKenzie wrote:
>
> Dear all
> My sweet, gorgeous little girl Flavia is gone.

Re: FIV+ Kitty

[Kat]

Amy
You forgot to mention WHERE the kitty is located...


On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Amy Wilkins wrote:

> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 05:38:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Amy Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: FIV+ Kitty
>
> Just got a call from my vet about a female torti that
> she found at her barn that tested FIV+.  She is
> willing to give me til the end of the day to see if we
> can find anybody that might be interested in taking
> her.  She said she did fine on the car ride and is
> fine in the cage and will do ok in an indoor home.
> I'm getting married in a couple weeks and I have a
> very sick leuk positive at my home now so I just can't
> introduce this one into my home.  Would anybody be
> willing to take her?  She will spay her and worm her
> free of charge and I can transport her.  She is an
> adult, possibly 3 or 4, don't know at this point.
>
> Amy Wilkins
> Woof Wagon
> www.woofwagon.com
>
>
>
> __
> Discover Yahoo!
> Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out!
> http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html
>
>

Re: Hi Everyone/Fleas

[Kat]

Hi Julie,

It's good to hear from you again - in spite of all the $hi+ you've gone
through this year.  I can sympathize about the fleas!!  I have one cat
(semi feral - long hair) "Meowmee" who must have a flea allergy.  She has
scratched her neck area RAW.  The others are just beginning to scratch
more than normal. (My vet says this is a very bad flea summer by the way.)
Anyway, I can't put any frontline on Meowmee (yet) because of all the
broken skin around her neck - so my vet gave me some Capstar tablets to
give her (1 every 2 days) until her skin heals enough for the frontline.

Capstar works within 30 minutes to kill any fleas on the cat but only
lasts for up to 48 hours in the system.  I don't have my bill with me, so
I can't tell you prices, but it's not cheap enough to keep them on it
long-term.  However, it CAN be used in conjunction with the frontline to
really blitz the toughest of flea infestations.

Here's hoping that your luck and life is on the upswing now!

Kat (Mew Jersey)

Re: URGENT

[Kat]

Gloria,
I believe this is from the contact person that our Jenn posted just a
while ago and the site she listed was:
http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html
Kat (Mew Jersey)
(Trying to catch up with more emails than I thought could accumulate...)

On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Gloria Lane wrote:

> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 05:39:51 -0500
> From: Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: URGENT
>
> That address  doesn't work... could you resend it? Thanks -
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2005, at 12:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > We are looking for homes for 2 FELV+ cats http://FELVadopt.html
> > They may be in euthanized if we cant find homes for them. They're
> > very loving cats. Thank you for your time.
>
>
>

Vet in Northern NJ (was Re: Need advice)

[Kat]

Hi Michelle,
Welcome to Mew Jersey!!
Just for your records, in case you ever need a second opinion, the vet I
use is at Fredon Animal Hospital (973) 383-0811 - her name is Linda Grau.
Fredon is about 10 miles north of you (up Rt 206, then over to Rt 94) in
Sussex Co, but she's great with my cats - even the ferals.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:21:51 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Need advice
>
> I'm in Flanders (just moved here from MA), which is part of Mt. Olive, which
> is the town north of Chester.  So really it's northern NJ. I just started
> using my vet because she both works at a clinic a mile away and does house 
> calls.
> She is very nice and seems knowledgeable, but has not been great
> diagnostically yet.  Where and who is your vet?
> Michelle
>
> In a message dated 9/11/2005 5:01:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Michelle,
>
> Where in NJ?  Do you have a wonderful vet?  If you're in central NJ, I can
> recommend one.
>
> Terri in NJ
>

Re: OT: Help - a 5 wk old kitten swallowed a tip of the nipple in thebottle..

[Kat]

Hi Hideyo,

Keep giving your baby the formula and make sure you stimuate him to pee
and poop afterward.  The rubber tip is soft enough that it shouldn't
scratch up his "innards", so all you can do right now is help him to
eliminate it.  Athena, my little blind kitty did the same thing, although
she was about 7 weeks old, and she was fine.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:25:07 -0600
> From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: OT: Help - a 5 wk old kitten swallowed a tip of the nipple in
> thebottle..
>
> I need your advise - my 5 week old baby, Ceaser chewed and bite off the
> top of the nipple (rubber) of the bottle - not the whole top, but about
> a half or 1/3 - I took him to the vet.. and he felt that the time has
> passed so it's too late for trying to make him throw up ... he said that
> I will have to watch the sign of vomiting and stuff... when I left the
> house this moring.. he was sort of hiding which he does not do usually
> --- so now I am worried.. any advise?? (I was told that I need to keep
> feeding him often to flush it out..)
>
>

RE: OT: Help - a 5 wk old kitten swallowed a tip of the nipple inthebottle..

[Kat]

No, I never really saw it come out, but I wasn't mashing up her poops to
see if it was there either (she had already been using the litter box).

Your baby may be "off" his feed for a day or 2 - just keep feeding him
(even if it's smaller but more frequent feedings).  Keep an eye on his
belly - if it looks like its getting bloated, then take him back to the
vet.

Sending soothing tummy thoughts to him, and calming hugs to you.

Kat (Mew Jersey)


On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:39:58 -0600
> From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: OT: Help - a 5 wk old kitten swallowed a tip of the nipple
> inthebottle..
>
> Hi, Kat, it's nice to hear from you!!
>
> She did, too???  How much did she swallow?  Did you see it coming out as
> a poop?
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:50 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: OT: Help - a 5 wk old kitten swallowed a tip of the nipple
> in thebottle..
>
> Hi Hideyo,
>
> Keep giving your baby the formula and make sure you stimuate him to pee
> and poop afterward.  The rubber tip is soft enough that it shouldn't
> scratch up his "innards", so all you can do right now is help him to
> eliminate it.  Athena, my little blind kitty did the same thing,
> although
> she was about 7 weeks old, and she was fine.
>
> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:25:07 -0600
> > From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: OT: Help - a 5 wk old kitten swallowed a tip of the nipple in
> > thebottle..
> >
> > I need your advise - my 5 week old baby, Ceaser chewed and bite off
> the
> > top of the nipple (rubber) of the bottle - not the whole top, but
> about
> > a half or 1/3 - I took him to the vet.. and he felt that the time has
> > passed so it's too late for trying to make him throw up ... he said
> that
> > I will have to watch the sign of vomiting and stuff... when I left the
> > house this moring.. he was sort of hiding which he does not do usually
> > --- so now I am worried.. any advise?? (I was told that I need to keep
> > feeding him often to flush it out..)
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Re: Question about Euthanasia and my Grace

[Kat]

Nina,
My heart goes out to you - this is such a difficult time.

I would ask Grace what she wants - to go on her own or to be
assisted.  If she asks for assistance, then I would also ask her
if she wants someone "new" to come now, or if she wants to wait
for "her vet" Dr.Ortega.

Please know that we all love and support you, no matter what course
of action is decided on.  We've walked the same path and we will walk
with you too.  I, too, have not posted very much over this last year -
way too much "stuff" going on, sapping my spirit - but I do read, and I
do pray for everyone on this list, and I have followed your posts about
Grace.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Nina wrote:

> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 07:18:15 -0700
> From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Question about Euthanasia and my Grace
>
> My Beloved Group,
> First of all, I'm sorry I haven't been able to participate fully in the
> group this last couple of weeks.  I love you all, but for the last
> couple of days, I haven't even been able bring myself to read the
> posts.  I'm physically and emotionally exhausted by Grace and my last
> efforts to bring her back to health.  Yesterday, I finally resigned
> myself to thinking of our time together as 'death bed vigil'.  Those of
> you that know me, know that I pray all your babies are safe and healthy,
> and those that are losing, or have lost the battle; my love is with
> you.  I don't know what I would have done without the love and support
> of this group.  You have been a Godsend to me and my sweet fur angels.
>
> Yesterday morning Gracie "told" me she does not want to stay.  Among
> other signs, I was syringe feeding her and she refused to swallow.  I'm
> trying my best to make peace with her decision.  I know you understand.
> She hasn't eaten on her own for a long time now and she's skin and
> bones.  She spent a nice peaceful day, and I did my best to just "be
> with her".   During the afternoon she made it clear that she didn't want
> to be sung to, or touched.  It's so hard on me to watch her pull away.
> At one point, she seemed a bit agitated so I ground up a tiny bit of
> Valium and gave it to her in water.  She was so relaxed she even did a
> stretch-semi roll out on the patio in the sun.  She did something that
> startled me, and got my hopes up again.  (I just can't stop believing in
> miracles).  I was giving the dogs treats and she was laying on the
> couch.  Well, we have this thing Grace and I.  Whenever the dogs get
> treats she'd come bounding over the barrier and expect one too.  When
> she saw me giving the dogs treats this afternoon, she jumped off the
> couch.  I started to cry, because I thought, there's no way she's going
> to take a treat.  I put one in front of her anyway and you could have
> knocked me over with a sigh.  It took her a minute to decide to eat it,
> but she not only ate that one, but 3 more.  Then she ate 3 or 4 pieces
> of kibble!  My hopes were short lived though.
>
> I've been up with her most of the night.  She still doesn't want my
> attention.  She doesn't even want me to look at her, it's breaking my
> heart to say goodbye, and I guess it may be making it harder for her to
> go, although that is not my intention.  It's not like I don't want her
> to leave her body, I do.  I want her suffering to be over.  Yesterday,
> when I knew it was time, I called my Internist's office to see if Dr.
> Ortega would be willing to help her cross.  Grace has always liked Dr.
> Ortega, and I thought she would be calmest with her.  Well, my Internist
> isn't going to be in the office until Friday.  It doesn't seem possible
> that Grace will still be here by then.  My stance has always been, that
> when I know it's the end, when I know that the chance of a recovery
> after treatment isn't possible, then it's time to help them cross.  Even
> though Grace is peaceful, (she just lays on her side and breathes
> shallow, but relaxed breaths), I have a hard time letting nature take
> it's course.  It's arrogant of me, but I can't stand seeing her like
> this.  I'm also so worried about her being in pain, when I look in her
> eyes, she doesn't seem in pain, but she doesn't seem like herself
> either.  I wouldn't mind vacant, but it's almost like she's... not quite
> angry, more like annoyed to still be here.
>
> Just to let you know...  Over the past week or so, I think I may have
> mentioned it, we've been following an extensive homeopathic regime with
> the hel

Re: OT:PLS help for two things..

[Kat]

Hideo, Michelle,

I did a search using anywho.com and got the following:

De Giacomo Sabina M Dvm
3111 Castle St
HONOLULU, HI 96815

808-732-7387

I do so hope this helps!
Kat (Mew Jersey)


On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:26:42 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: OT:PLS help for two things..
>
> Hideyo,
>Try to get in touch with Frank Digiacamo (sp?) and Sabina Digiacamo.  They
> are a lawyer and veterinarian living in Hawaii and have an animal advocacy
> group there.  He is an old friend of mine. I am not sure he is actually 
> licensed
> as a lawyer in HI, but all he does is animal advocacy work. He is a little
> out there sometimes, but you might want to contact them and see if they can 
> help
> you.
>
> If I find their current phone number I will email it to you, but I do not
> know if I have it as we have been pretty out of touch for the last few years.
>
> Michelle
>

Re: HELP...Skunk

[Kat]

Cherie -
Do you have any Vinegar? (Apple Cider/White/Balsamic it doesn't matter)
Do you have any Douche?  Do you have any Tomatoe Juice?
There is also a product you can get at pet supply stores called Skunk off.

Whatever you do have on hand - drench him in it - sort of like basting a
turkey - over and over.  This should help alleviate the overwhelming smell
somewhat.  Good luck.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Cherie A Gabbert wrote:

> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:52:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Cherie A Gabbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: HELP...Skunk
>
> My dog got spraqyed by a skunk how do I make him smell better to transport 
> him to the vet for a bathany ideas???
> Please help
> Cherie
>
>
> Have a purrfect day
> Cherie
>
>

Re: unsubscribing?

[Kat]

Nikki,
I'm so sorry you lost your Smokey -
They leave such holes in our hearts when they
go, don't they?  There are several websites
that can help you with your grieveing:
www.petloss.com is a good place to start.
I hope in time that the memories you have
will help ease the pain you feel right now.
Sending gentle hugs to you and your family.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Nikki Martinez wrote:

> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:00:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Nikki Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: unsubscribing?
>
> Thank you my sweet smokey just passed away last night & I feel sad when I 
> read other people w/ their sick kittys.
>
> Julie Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Nikki,
>
> You can unsubscribe at this link:
>
> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
>
> Julie
>
> Nikki Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do you unsubscribe from this email subscription??
>
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> by the way its animals are treated."
>
> Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)
>
>
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Re: fleas/ferals

[Kat]

Hi Lohna,
I also have a few house ferals - can't touch them with a comb,
can't even put the Frontline drops on them - so my vet gave me
tablets called "CapStar".  For non-ferals, you can just pop one tab
down their throats - for the ferals, I have to crush the tab and
hide it in really smelly/great tasting kitty food.  CapStar works
within 30 minutes to one hour to kill all the fleas on the cat, and
it gets processed out of the cat's system within 48 hours.
So at my house, I use the Frontline on all of my healthy non-ferals,
and for the ferals I use the CapStar. Good Luck with Kittypoo.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Lohna Esteb wrote:

> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 21:38:50 -0400
> From: Lohna Esteb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: fleas
>
> I'm somewhat new to the list. I imagine it's important how you get rid
> of fleas on
> a kitty with feline leukemia, also a feral. This is kittypoo. She is
> indoors. Any advice?
>
>  Lohna
>
>
>

Re: fleas/hypocrisy...

[Kat]

Hi Patti,

LOL, I can sooo relate to what you're saying about feeling like a
hypocrite, except for me it's fleas and mosquitos...

The way I see it, they're free to live their lives - just NOT in my
house!! Outside, I will put stuff on ME (OFF, Skin so Soft, etc.) to
repel the little biters, but hey - it's their territory, so I don't
put up bug zappers or try to wipe them out.  But if they want to live,
they must stay outside!!  I've been known to 'rescue' moths and spiders
and even flies that get into my house - and I'm very jumpy around spiders.
But ... fleas and mosquitos are a whole different story.

Maybe I'm just rationalizing, but I figure there has to be a line drawn
somewhere.  I mean, if I were to get an intestinal parasite or salmonella
or even a bacterial infection from somewhere, I would take the appropriate
meds to kill them off - I wouldn't just let them go on living inside me.
Same with the cats - if they get roundworms or something - they get meds!
But I don't purposely go out and try to eradicate them - I do believe
everything has a purpose, somehow, even if I don't know what it is...

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I revere ALL life, believing all life is sacred...
> However, when it comed to fleas & flies, I just feel like a  hypocrite...
> I think we could live very comfortably in peace WITHOUT these dastardly
> pests!!!
> Does that make me a hypocrite
> I hope not, but I do struggle w/ the ideas.
> Spent all my life lecturing on the sanctity of "ALL" life, just do not put  a
> fly swatter in my hands
>
> AND, do not even get me going on ticksLOL
> Patti
>

Re: Bailey has gone home

[Kat]

Dear Belinda,

I am so sorry that Bailey has crossed over.  I was sooo praying that he
could have a turnaround.  You and Bailey have been such an inspiration to
everyone on this list. You and your family are in my prayers.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Sat, 6 May 2006, Belinda wrote:
>
> Bailey left us at 6:20 this evening.  He took a bad turn for the
> worse late last night and when I took him in this morning for his
> surgery it was evident he wasn't in good enough shape.  We gave him

Re: Prayers for Allie

[Kat]

Both you and Allie are in my prayers.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 11 May 2006, Jennifer Ross wrote:

> Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 15:28:14 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jennifer Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Prayers for Allie
>
> Allie was back at the vet today with 105 fever- came down to 102.5 with 
> Metacam (kitty NSAID) and sq fluids.  I did get the vet to show me how to 
> give the sq fluids, so I can administer them now if she stops eating and 
> drinking and looks dehydrated, or if her temp goes up (I've been monitoring 
> her temp daily).  They were also thinking of giving me some Metacam to 
> administer at home, but decided to hold off on that.  This is her 3rd temp 
> spike in 2 weeks.  The vet was prepping me for the fact that at some point 
> Allie's body is not going to be able to tolerate these temps anymore and is 
> not going to fight them off even with treatments because the fevers are 
> causing such a stress on her system.  Of course we don't know if that will be 
> a week or a month, but it looks like it may be sooner than I thought.  It's 
> so hard because 2 days ago she was totally back to herself- eating great, 
> playing, and she even sleep with us!  I guess the calm before the storm...  
> Keep her in your
>  thoughts.  I don't want her to suffer, but I'm not ready to say good-bye yet 
> either!  I'm still hoping she can beat these fevers, but that's not looking 
> realistic anymore and I don't want to torture her...
>
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Re: FIV resources

[Kat]

Hi Rachel,

Aside from our adoption pages
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi
do you have any info on the kitty?
(How old, male/female, temperment, shots, etc)?

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 31 May 2006, Rachel wrote:

> Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 10:36:38 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Rachel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: FELV TALK List 
> Subject: FIV resources
>
> does anyone know of resources for placing an FIV cat?
> I am exploring all options at this point and have a possible adopter, but 
> don't want to wait to find out they do not want to take the cat.
>
>   Kitty's Location is Hackettstown, NJ (north-western NJ)
>
>
> Rachel
>
> "Folk will know how large your soul is by the way you treat a dog"  C. Doran
>
>
>
>
>
> -
> Do you Yahoo!?
>  Everyone is raving about the  all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Re: OT: ANGEL Of A Rescuer Memorial (Shannon Moore)

[Kat]

Terri,

Thank you for forwarding this to us - I'm sitting here in tears just
thinking about the hole left in our world by this beautiful rescue angel.

Sleep Soft, Dear Shannon...

Kat (Mew Jersey)



  Many of you may have heard of Shannon Moore, one of the biggest
  ANGELS Rescuers in NOLA. Shannon passed away last Wed a day
  after the bill (The Louisiana Pet Evacuation Bill, SB607)she
  pushed so hard for passed the Senate. (Thank you Sherry Rout for
  helping write this bill)

  Please take a moment of silence to honor Shannon Moore. Graveside
  services will be today, June 6, 2006, 10:00AM at Metairie
  Cemetery. Shannon was a friend & fighter for the homeless
  animals and will be greatly missed. Please pray she finds the
  peace she couldn't find here.

  Shannon's Memorial
  http://tinyurl.com/gllt7

Re: o/t advice needed

[Kat]

Hi Kerry,

I agree with the advice from Marylyn, but want to add -
If there is any way to get some of the bedding or clothes
from Danny's original owner to put in the dark cubby, that
may help him adjust and settle in too.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

PS
I'm keeping you in my prayers too, and
sending gentle, soothing, stress-free vibes.


On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, Marylyn wrote:

> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:47:32 -0500
> From: Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: o/t advice needed
>
> My first thought is to try Feliway spray.  It helps a lot.  Then put Rescue
> Remedy in their water.  Wash down every place Danny has peed with Odo Ban.
> He is just trying to claim some space for himself.  Can you imagine how
> awful and abandoned he feels?  How very alone?  He doesn't understand what
> has happened to his person and why he is in  this situation and whether it
> is a home for life or he will be thrown out again He
> is very confused and very frightened.The Odo Ban is the only product I
> have found that really works on cat urine.  Make sure there are at least two
> litter boxes.  Since Danny is spraying I would suggest getting 18 gallon
> Rubbermaid boxes and cutting a "doorway" in it so Danny has plenty of high
> walls to spray.  Don't put the lid on it though.  Make sure each cat is
> getting attention separately and has his own food bowl.  Given the stress
> this has to be putting on your friend and Danny's predicament I should
> seriously consider getting some valium from my vet for Danny and see it that
> helps.  Danny needs a special place of his own to hide.  Again, if there is
> little space, try a Rubbermaid container, this time with the lid on it.  Cut
> a cat size hole near the end of one long side and high.  The objective is to
> give the cat as much dark, safe space inside the box as possible.  By
> cutting the hole about midway up the box and toward the end you maximize
> that space.  Put in hay, shredded newspaper...something Danny can bury in
> and feel safe in (again spray the box and contents with Feliway).  Other
> ideas are to consult an Animal Communicator and a holistic vet as well as a
> regular vet.
>
> It is possible that all the stress Danny is under may have led to a UTI.  A
> vet checkup is not a bad idea.
>
> Make sure your friend remembers her original cat and the stress that cat is
> under too.  Some of the above may help it.
>
> Good luck.  It sounds like you can use some.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  If you have men who will
> exclude any of God's creatures
>  from the shelter of
> compassion and pity, you will have men who
>  will deal likewise with
> their fellow man.
>   St.
> Francis
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kerry MacKenzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:55 PM
> Subject: o/t advice needed
>
>
> > Hi all
> > I'm just back in the country again after 5 weeks FML, and once again my
> > condolences go to those of you who have lost beloved furkids, along with
> > my
> > heartfelt wishes to all the sick kitties for a speedy recovery.
> > I've come back to discover a friend, B,  throwing her hands up in despair
> > over her new kitty Danny. (Danny had to find a new home as his guardian, a
> > neighbor of B's, entered a nursing home.) B already has one cat that she's
> > had for 15 years and she was quite concerned about how the two would get
> > along. B does not have the space to allow them to be introduced slowly so
> > they were basically thrown together, and now Danny is peeing and spraying
> > everywhere it seems.
> > Any tips/advice, you wonderful people? I'm very concerned from what she's
> > said that Danny will soon become homeless again, so I'll be very grateful
> > for any advice I can fwd to her. (I would get on the archives and do my
> > own
> > research but I've come back to a plumbing disaster, a friend who I fear
> > may
> > be on the brink of suicide and now my front tooth has fallen out.)
> > Thanks for all/any help. Love you all. hugs, Kerry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>

Re: Hannibal departed to his new wonderful life... - thank you for allyour prayers.

[Kat]

Dear Hideyo,

To have gone from Feral to being cuddled in your arms -
you did a wonderful job and gave Hannibal so much love.
He doesn't have a single regret, only great love for you.

Please know that you are in my prayers during your time of
sorrow.  Take care of yourself so Hannibal can guide another
lost kitty into your life.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:21:46 -0600
> From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Hannibal departed to his new wonderful life... - thank you for
> allyour prayers.
>
> Hi, everyone, I first wanted to thank you all for all the prayers and
> encouragement and support for Hannibal - a little less than 24 hours
> ago, he passed away - he stopped breathing in my arms.. I wish he was at
> home but unfortunately we were at the vet and he was getting IV fluid...
> I was with him the whole time..I really did not expect him to cross the
> bridge yesterday.. I just wanted to make him feel better and I thought
> that IV would have helped him.. and now I think about it, I am so sure
> that putting him on IV did shorten his life after all.. as always,, I
> have so many regrets for things I wish I had done, I had known.. or I
> wish I had not done.. if I had known as much as I do now.. I would have
> made Hannibal's life so much better and longer.I am so sorry for
> Hannibal not knowing any better... but I hope I can contribute my
> learning experience to any other kitties out there who are fighting
> against CRF... Hannibal was and is such a fighter.. he was the very
> first feral I rescued in U.S.  and I have known him over 10 years... I
> feel so fortunate to have met him and feel honored to have met and feel
> privileged to have had the opportunity to take care of him.. I wish I
> had done a better job, Hannibal... and I am so sorry that I did not pay
> attention well enough and took your sight way.. I know it was struggle
> for you.. but one thing for sure.. I have loved him so very much.. I
> loved him like there is no tomorrowand I always will...
>
>
>
> We celebrated his departure to his new life with all other kitties last
> night.. we all miss him.. I am so very much going to miss holding him..
> and seeing places that I used to see.. but I also know that his soul
> will continue to live with me.. and is still around...I am still feeling
> numb and shock.. but I wanted to thank everyone for all the prayers.
>
>
>
> I also wanted to thank Helen and her website on CRF support ---I have
> learned so much from ... I know for sure that without the information,,
> I couldn't have taken care of him as well as I did
>
>
>
> Hideyo and Hannibal, my little precious hero...
>
>

Re: Devastated...Mr. Dobbs My New FIV Rescue Died After Neuter Surgery

[Kat]

Oh Rachel,

I'm so sorry this happened to you & your sweet Mr.Dobbs.  I believe
another list member, Hideyo, had a female kitty that died after a spay.
She was in her carrier just waiting to be picked up, and when Hideyo got
there she had already passed on.  He didn't die alone, he knew you were
there and that you loved him - even if it was such a short time. There are
no words to comfort you right now, but please know that you are in my
thoughts & prayers.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Rachel wrote:

> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:11:02 -0400
> From: Rachel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Devastated...Mr. Dobbs My New FIV Rescue Died After Neuter
> Surgery
>
> There are days like this when I don't know why I continue to take in new FIV
> and FeLV cases.  Mr. Dobbs was a gorgeous pure white, long-haired previous
> stray that tested FIV positive and was being boarded by a local vet until
> they could find a rescue to take him.  We had offered to take him in, he was
> healthy and the vet neutered him, vaccinated him, including Rabies yesterday
> morning as a courtesy for us.
>
> I picked him up yesterday afternoon and fell instantly in love with him.  He
> was so affectionate.  He would give me hugs and he seemed alert and fine
> after the surgery.  I gave him water and checked on him every hour and
> finally around 11pm last night before I went to bed.
>
> This morning I went to feed him and he was laying by the door, already
> passed on.  There was a small amount of blood where his mouth had layed.  I
> feel just terrible that this sweet loving guy spent his last hours alone and
> I didn't realize that anything was wrong.  He seemed fine, no trouble
> breathing, his feces looked good, he was drinking, he was happy.  What went
> wrong?  A blood clot?
>
> I called the vet and they are shocked.  In all my years of doing rescue I've
> never had a cat died after a spay/neuter surgery, even the FeLV or FIV
> positive ones.  Has anyone had this happen?  Is there something I could have
> done to prevent it?
>
> Rachel
>
> *Operation Foster Felix*
> *www.operationfosterfelix.org* <http://www.operationfosterfelix.org>
> *"Sharing Our Hearts, Homes & Litter Boxes"*
>

Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health

[Kat]

I found out (first hand) that bears like it too!!

I had been ordering mine online before it became available in my local
stores, and one day the delivery was left on my porch while I was at work.
Being tired when I got home, I figured I'd bring the box in after dinner -
but before I got the chance a "yearling" black bear was on my proch trying
to rip the box open.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 19:13:24 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health
>
>
> I did not use this in the house when my dogs were alive, so it's possible.  I
> have been worried that it is attracting mice (we have a lot of mice in the
> house, judging from Lucy's hunting exploits), which is why I had switched to
> pine. I switched back because Lucy got sick around the same time I  switched.
> If the mice like it, which I think they do (it's probably like a  buffet to
> them), dogs might also.
> Michelle
>
> In a message dated 7/4/2006 7:11:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> I have  heard that a problem with corn litter is that dogs can't eat just one
>  !!!
> And some have been hospitalized from eating too  much
> Tad
>
>
>
>

Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health

[Kat]

Nina,
There are 2 kinds of crumbles - one of them is laced with antibiotics, so
double check when you call around.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Nina wrote:

> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 10:53:23 -0700
> From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health
>
> I just called Sally to ask her about which litter she uses, (many of you
> guys probably remember "Sally from San Jose" that used to be on the
> list).  She had a very sad time with kitten mortality not too long ago
> and I just wanted to make sure she wasn't using the hazardous litters.
> I should have known better.  Anyway, what she uses is corn chicken
> feed.  It's called "laying chicken crumbles" and she says it works
> almost as well, (for clumping properties) as the World's best litter and
> is very inexpensive.  It's doubtful that this is organically grown ;-) ,
> but it is biodegradable and ingestible.  I'm going to call around and
> see if I can find it at feed stores.  Sally says she prefers it to the
> clay because it's not as heavy and there are no chemicals added.  I'll
> let you know how well it works for my guys,
> Nina
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Date: Wednesday, July 5, 2006 11:43 am
> >Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's
> >Health
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >
> >
> >
> >>Thanks Hideyo,
> >>I did a search on "sweet scoop".  It's actually spelled "Swheat
> >>Scoop*",
> >>*a little clever word play, as if English isn't confusing enough!
> >>I was
> >>surprised to find out just how great a hazard the regular clumping
> >>litter can be, (thanks again Michelle), and I don't want to
> >>support the
> >>companies that make it, or endanger my cats.  It is discouraging
> >>to find
> >>yet another expense and inconvenience trying to do what's best for
> >>my
> >>fur family.  I did a little snooping and regular, non scented clay
> >>litter like Johnny cat, seems to be safe.  Has anyone heard
> >>anything
> >>that would make you suspect otherwise?
> >>Nina
> >>*
> >>
> >>
> >I use regular, non scented, non scooping litter for my kittens as tiny
> >kittens will eat scooping litter - I don't know why, it doesn't look
> >like it would taste very good.  It is so cheap I just dump the whole
> >kitten litterboxes out and refill them daily.  I think 20 lbs is about
> >$2.50 on sale around here.
> >
>

Re: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

[Kat]

Dear Nina,

I'm crying with you - I was so hoping he would recover.
He knows you loved him, and he knows you only wanted the best for him.
Please don't think of it as a failure on your part - you succeeded in
more ways than you realize. That is why he came back to you - because he
knew you would help him.  He knew it was his time, and that he lived as
long as he chose to. Even the animals have SOME free choice, and he chose
you to help him make his transition, gently, peacefully, and lovingly.

I will light a candle for him tonight.  Please know that you are in my
thoughts and prayers.

Sleep soft, dear Ceasar.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Nina wrote:

> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 12:29:50 -0700
> From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, Paul Hendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)
>
> Hello my beloved group,
> I just got the call from the vet.  Ceasar had deep puncture wounds that
> were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and the
> most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was
> limping.  He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was felv+.
> They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why there was
> blood in his saliva.  The vet, who is always reluctant to recommend
> euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to wake up from
> the kind of pain he must have been living with.  I still hesitated, I
> still thought maybe there was a way.  I asked if there could be any
> doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no.  Before we
> left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of the
> trap.  His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty feel
> that comes from flea infestation.  Poor little lamb!  He was angry, but
> he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss.  I spoke softly to him and
> told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home.  I had so
> prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security this
> afternoon.  I had to finally decide to let him go.   I'm so sick about
> not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be
> healthy today.  I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is that
> he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no longer
> producing felv kittens.  He lived the hard life of a cat on the street
> and I helped him as best I could.  Thank you all for caring about a
> special little feral boy and understanding how he has left an imprint on
> my heart.
> Bless you my sweet, brave, clever friend.  I will love you always.
> Nina
>
>
>

Re: Special Need List Add-On: Madison Lee

[Kat]

Hi Lora,

Prayers coming your way for your little Madison Lee's lump to be just a
fatty tumor.

Kat (Mew Jersey)


On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Lora wrote:

> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 01:57:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Lora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Special Need List Add-On: Madison Lee
>
> Belinda,
>
> Could you please add my darling little Madison Lee to
> the "Special Needs" list? She is one of my FeLV
> negatives who is a five (5) year old black and white
> tuxedo.
>
> On July the first I found a knot, the size of a
> quarter, at the base of her neck.
>
> I do not know if any of the original members who were
> active when I first joined the FElVtalk list back in
> 2002 (when my beloved Peeper was alive) remembers the
> college argumentative essay that I wrote regarding
> Feline Vaccine Aassociated Sarcomas (FVAS.)
>
> Anyway, that essay was written a year later in 2003
> and that is the year I quit vaccinating my
> kitties...ALL of them.
>
> It is because of this that I am hoping my sweet little
> Madison does NOT have FVAS. She has not been
> vaccinated for FVRCP, Rabies or Feline Leukemia in the
> past three (3) years.
>
> We took her to the hospital for an external exam on
> Saturday July the 8th. Exactly one week later. Thanks
> to the blasted 4th of July holiday they were backed up
> and the 8th was the soonest that I could get in!
>
> Why in the hell do all medical emergencies occur on
> the holidays when regular veterinarian offices are
> closed?! This is the third time is has happened to me
> and my kids in the past ten years! Grrr!
>
> Unfortunately, our veterinarian informed us that cats
> can develop FVAS with or withOUT be vaccinated!
>
> I do not know if I agree with this statement. I will
> have to do more research. Perhaps there has been some
> new developing information in the last three (3) years
> that supports this theory. I do not know, but will
> find out.
>
> Amptuation surgery is scheduled immediately. If the
> tumor is indeed malignant, the longer it stays in her
> body the higher the risk of it metastasizing to other
> parts. A huge concern is cancer in her chest cavity.
>
> Surgey will begin on Wednesday July the 12th and once
> the tumor has been removed our veterinarian will
> dissect it and send it to pathology for confirmation.
>
> We are all praying that it is just a benign, fatty,
> subcutaneous tumor that will not require chemo, but
> unfortunately there is no way to tell until the tumor
> is physically out of her body and sent to pathology.
>
> Currently, Madison is asymptomatic. She is not showing
> any outward signs of cancer. She has not lost any
> weight, her appetite has remain normal and hardy, she
> is not running a temperature, her eyes and nose are
> clear, her coat is still shiny and her activity level
> has not slowed down.
>
> So, we sit and wait...and pray with positive thoughts.
>
> Out of 22 years of resuce work and a cat-mom to 14,
> never once have I ever encountered a feline with a
> tumor. This will be another "first" for me. 2006 is
> quickly turning out to be a bad year for me.
>
> With that said, we hope for the best, but are perpared
> for the worst.
>
> Please keep us in your thoughts.
>
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>
>

Re: OT-Rabies Vaccine

[Kat]

Hi Roxane,

One of the clinics here in NJ is also going to a one year rabies vaccine -
I asked them in particular why, and they said it's a slightly different
vaccine, one that uses a different adjuvant (delivery liquid), and that it
has a shorter immunity duration.  Since they are not my primary vet (only
my emergency clinic) I did not push it, but if you want I can find out
more about it.

Kat (Mew Jersey)


On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Roxane Baldwin wrote:

> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 13:17:34 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Roxane Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: OT-Rabies Vaccine
>
> I just had an upsetting phone call with my vets office.  They are going from 
> a 2 years rabies vaccine to a annual rabies vaccine for cats, it is now 3 
> years for dogs.  I thought that there was only one type of rabies vaccine and 
> it was a 3 year shot.
>   With the study that Jean Dodds is trying to put together, I would think 
> that vet offices would wake-up to the dangers of over vaccinating.
>   Does anyone  know if this annual vaccination is a new standard for felines 
> or is this just my vet?
>   I'm sorry this is OT but with a canine with an auto-immune disorder because 
> a vet over vaccinated her, I get very upset when they tell me I need to 
> vaccinate more.
>
>
> Roxane,
> Horton, Iowa
>
> -
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Re: Has anyone heard from Patti?

[Kat]

Hi Nina,

>From our Frapper map (and a previous email I had saved), Patti lives in
Codorus, PA  (SoCenPa).  This is all the info I have tho.

Kat (Mew Jersey)


On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Nina wrote:

> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 10:58:25 -0700
> From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Has anyone heard from Patti?
>
> Does anyone have a way of getting in touch with Patti, ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> from our list?  The last time I heard from her was in May and I'm
> concerned about her.  I emailed her off-list and she hasn't written me
> back.  I know I gave her my phone number, but I never got hers.  Does
> anyone have any news about her?
> Nina
>
>
>

Re: Patti could use your prayers

[Kat]

Oh Nina,

Is there anything we can do in addition to prayers??
Does she need anything we may be able to send her?
Is there someone helping her care for her animals?

Kat


On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Nina wrote:

> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:38:28 -0700
> From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Patti could use your prayers
>
> Hello group,
> I got the following email from Patti this morning.  I had hoped that she
> was busy with other things and was just not in touch.  I was able to
> speak to her on the phone and she's in really rough shape.  She was in a
> terrible car accident.  She was in a coma, but because of her brain
> injuries is having a hard time remembering things, so she couldn't tell
> me for how long.  She said she can remember her current pets and things
> from 20 years ago, but she can't remember other pets she has lost.  They
> are hoping her memory will return as she heals.  She's lost her front
> teeth, her right cheek was crushed, broken ribs, brain and spinal
> injuries, loss of memory, numbness on the left side of her body and so
> much pain!  She sure could use your good thoughts and prayers.  She's
> having a hard time reading the posts because of her vision, but she did
> see my post asking about her.  She kept repeating how you just never
> know what each day will bring.  To add to her troubles, her ex-husband
> died of a heart attack while she was in the coma.  I asked her if it
> would be okay to let everyone know what she's going through and she
> welcomed your prayers for her recovery.  It's so true.  You just never
> know...
> Blessings to everyone, please keep safe,
> Nina
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Dear Nina,
> > I had a car accident May 17 and was near death.  Bad brain injury &
> > spinal probs.  Just got home from hosp. & I am not doing as I though.
> > My vision is damaged too.  I really am lucky to be here. (?)
> > I was not able to rad all mail..
> > Sorry.
> > Hope all is well with you.
> > SSay a prayer for mr.  I need it.
> > Love, Patti
>
>

RE: Worried about your other kitties/Felvtalk Digest, Vol 18, Issue 25

[Kat]

Beth,

Please do not be so worried - I have had 3 kitties in my house of cats
over the past 20 years that had the dry form of FIP - but none of the
others have had any problems whatsoever!!  These were 3 non-overlapping
kitties, so they didn't get it from each other either.

FIP is a mutation of a very common corona virus that causes digestive
upsets.  All of my cats must have been exposed to this corona virus, but
only 3 out of around 70 (yes, I rescue) in those 20 years mutated and
died.

Go ahead and clean everything well, use bleach in the laundry, keep
your other kitties as healthy as possible, but don't obsess.

Kat (Mew Jersey)


On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Gary Murphy wrote:

> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:36:51 -0400
> From: Gary Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 18, Issue 25
>
> Thank you everyone for your condolences on Alice's passing.  How ironic that 
> a horrible experience like this leads to such a kind,wonderful group of 
> people.  I hate to ask again so soon, but I need some more advice.  My sorrow 
> for Ally is beginning to being eclipsed by panic for the fates of the others 
> in our house.  Does anyone here have any experience with FCoV and/or FIP?  
> The vet called my husband with Ally's test results, said that it was a 
> very,very slight positive antibody titre (1 in 100?).  I'm not even sure if 
> that is for FIP or coronavirus.  The information we have been getting from 
> the vet seems to conflict with what we are reading on the web.  She seems to 
> think it somewhat likely that they will come down with FIP as they were 
> probably exposed at the same time as Ally, whereas some of the web sites say 
> that only FCoV is transmisable, and that it then sometimes mutates into 
> deadly FIP individually within each cat in response to stress.  I threw out 
> the thermome!
 te!
>  r I used on Ally, am running out to buy a new one so I can temp them all and 
> isolate (where I don't know, I'm out of bedrooms) any that might be getting 
> sick.  They appear healthy so far, but all four of them have wet sneezes at 
> least once a day, and three of them occasionally have a bit of eye gunk and 
> always have a tiny bit of the 3rd eyelid showing way in the corner of their 
> eyes.  Blue seems syptom free so far, her eyes are clear and no sneezing, 
> although she is getting eardrops for a mild infection.  Any experiences you 
> can share are greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you so much,
> Beth

Re: To Nina and others who read this thread: male calico and black girlkittens

[Kat]

Sleep soft dear little calico male and black female kitties...

You are now playing with our other precious fur-kids,
delighting the angels with your antics and your love.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, wendy wrote:

> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:44:15 -0700 (PDT)
> From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: To Nina and others who read this thread: male calico and black
> girlkittens
>
> I called the woman who posted about the calico male
> and black female and she runs a rescue in Arlington,
> right next to Dallas.  I was upset that she left her
> post the way she did (ie. "it's over").  She told me
> that she did pts the kittens, which of course, upset
> me to hear.  I asked her to please not leave us
> hanging like that again as it was upsetting for us to
> read that and not know what she meant.  I could hear
> in her voice a lot of frustration at trying to get
> them adopted out and that one of her personal cats had
> contracted the FeLV from the kittens, according to
> her.  She had bottle fed the two kittens and had had
> them for a year, so she was clearly upset about the
> situation.  She did not want to pts and said that she
> had tried to get them adopted out for months, but was
> concerned for all the other cats.  She did say that
> later an IFA showed that her personal cat was
> negative, so that's a good thing.  I told her a little
> about what we've found out here about FeLV and urged
> her to post back if she came across any more FeLV
> positives in her rescue before pts.  I know this will
> put your minds a little at rest, unrestfully.  I hope
> we don't get anymore of these posts because they are
> upsetting!
>
> Wendy
>
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Re: memorial service

[Kat]

Helene,

I'm so sorry Sam had to leave.

I believe Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
will be adding Sam's name to the list -
(at least I Think that's what she indicated
in her condolences note).

Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Helene Hand wrote:

> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:44:20 -0400
> From: Helene Hand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: memorial service
>
> How do I add Sam's name to the memorial service list? I have not had to
> think about adding a name, ever.
>
> Helene
>

Re: I killed Grayson

[Kat]

Oh Tonya,

I'm so sorry Grayson has gone to be with his brother.
Kittens are so very fragile sometimes. I'm sure he's
being cared for now by Brenda and all our other angels.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, catatonya wrote:

> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 02:58:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> Subject: I killed Grayson
>
> I just woke and Grayson was dead.  I think I smothered him.  I think 2:30 was 
> the last time he woke me up to be fed.  I had him up by my neck but remember 
> finding him sleeping down next to me at one point and moving him back up.  I 
> guess it didn't cross my mind at the time that he should have been screaming 
> for food at that point.  I just moved him back up higher on the bed and 
> covered him in his little towel and fell back asleep.  When I woke again I 
> wondered why he hadn't cried yet or moved over to my neck.  He was dead 
> because I had killed him.
>
>   tonya
>
>
>
>
>

RE: I killed Grayson

[Kat]

Sleep soft, dear Grayson and your tiny tabby brother too.


On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, catatonya wrote:

> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:27:15 -0700 (PDT)
> From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: I killed Grayson
>
> It just is.  When I woke up and he wasn't at my neck I turned on the light to 
> find him down beside me.  I just moved him back up to his place since he 
> seemed to be sleeping.  I was groggy and tired and just didn't even think to 
> check to see that he was alright.  I might could have done something at that 
> point.  I don't know.
>
>   I'm going to bury Grayson and the tiny tabby together this afternoon and 
> plant an azalea for them.
>
>   t
>
> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> PLEASE don?t think that!!!  Its just not true!!  Of course 
> you were worried about bringing in another cat?all of us would have ?wished? 
> we didn?t have the problem.
>
>   I have a feeling you hit it on the head in your very first e-mail?Mom cats 
> somehow sense which kitties might not make it and sort of push them 
> away?that?s just the way Nature works.
>
>   Tonya?I know people who care for newborn kitties and the mortality rate is 
> phenomally high?most just don?t make it when they?re that young!  Its an 
> exhausting frustrating and oftentimes disappointing job!  You?re tired and 
> angry and feel bad that they both died.  That?s OK but its absolutely not 
> your fault!
>
> Chris
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>   -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:00 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: I killed Grayson
>
> Thanks Nina, but I killed him.  I know I did.  And I know it's because I 
> was so worried about bringing in another cat and 'wished' I didn't have that 
> problem.  So now I don't.  I just feel horrible.
>
>
>
> t
>
> Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh Honey, don't say that. You didn't kill Grayson. You didn't wake up
> on top of him, you woke up with him lower on your body and you moved him
> back up. There's no way you could possibly know he stopped breathing
> because you suffocated him, or because he simply stopped breathing.
> Even if you had inadvertently smothered him, you still didn't kill that
> baby. The state of the world is what killed that baby. You, my dear,
> saved him. I'm very sorry that he's gone, I can just imagine your shock
> and grief. I guess I should have been talking about how likely this
> outcome could be, but I wanted to think positively about his chances,
> and let's face it, no matter how prepared we are, we're never prepared
> enough. Please don't play the what if game with this. What if you had
> left him in the bathroom, covered with towels and a heating pad? What
> if he'd died alone in the bathroom and hadn't gotten the opportunity to
> see what it was liked to be cuddled and loved? You'd be kicking
> yourself harder than you are right now. No, you did everything right.
> >From the moment you went back into that house, to when you took him to
> bed with you. No matter how sad I am about Grayson leaving us, I won't
> accept anything else. He was a little fighter with a heart big enough
> to cause people around the country to fall in love with him. The little
> guy has my undying love and all the tears he deserves, and so do you,
> N.
>
> catatonya wrote:
>
> > I just woke and Grayson was dead. I think I smothered him. I think
> > 2:30 was the last time he woke me up to be fed. I had him up by my
> > neck but remember finding him sleeping down next to me at one point
> > and moving him back up. I guess it didn't cross my mind at the time
> > that he should have been screaming for food at that point. I just
> > moved him back up higher on the bed and covered him in his little
> > towel and fell back asleep. When I woke again I wondered why he
> > hadn't cried yet or moved over to my neck. He was dead because I had
> > killed him.
> >
> > tonya
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Yes, it seems a bit slow today - RE: Island Pharmacy

[Kat]

I haven't had much mail either.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:56:44 -0500
> From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: Island Pharmacy
>
> Hi all---This is only the 2nd email I've had today on the list --- (it's
> now 3pm CT) --is it me, or is everyone finding this? Kerry
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terri Brown
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 2:50 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Island Pharmacy
>
>
> Thank you!!!
>
> Terri
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Belinda <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 10:54 AM
>   Subject: Re: Island Pharmacy
>
>   Our toll-free number is 1-800-328-7060
>
>   http://www.islandpharmacy.com/
>
>   --
>
>   Belinda
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>
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>   http://bemikitties.com
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>
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>   http://HostDesign4U.com
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>   
>
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RE: no mail yet?

[Kat]

Okay - make that "we 6" -
I'm still hear - just up to my eyeballs in work.
Nina, I'd love to hear about Matilda aka Atila the Honey.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:09:27 -0500
> From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: no mail yet?
>
> Ditto, me (posts received).
> Guess I'm just concerned because I was without FeLV mail for 2 days this
> week on my home computer (everything else arrived) until they all came
> tumbling in last night.
> Wonder if we'll hear from anyone else?
> Perhaps we're operating as 2 different entities right now--we 5, and
> everyone else who's communicating as normal out there?! Kx
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:04 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: no mail yet?
>
>
> Okay, here's my test.  I got the posts, (re: no mail), from Kerry,
> Michelle, Terrie and MC.  Have there been anymore?  We'll see if this
> shows up.  The list does sometimes go through very quiet periods.  I
> take it as a good sign that no one is in crisis!  We could take this
> opportunity to get even further off topic, what do you want to talk
> about?  I'm almost as tired of complaining about the heat as trying to
> live through it...  I could tell you all about my latest refugee,
> Matilda.  Bruce has nicknamed her Atila the Honey.
> N
>
> MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:
>
>
>   Interesting--thanks Michelle.
>   Yet I haven't had a copy of my own email yetKerry
>   -Original Message-
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:07 AM
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>   Subject: Re: no mail yet?
>
>
>
>   well, I got your email. I am not sure if anyone else has posted
> today.
>   Michelle
>
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Re: Matilda, aka Atila the Honey

[Kat]

Oh Nina,

LOL - I can just picture you marching over there in pajamas armed with
a carrier and a dish of food - Thank you for all that you've done for her.
Yes, it's sad that her 5 little ones were never born, but it would have
been even sadder if all 6 had perished due to her poor health condition.
Did the vet test her for FeLV and FIV??

I'm sending out "good home vibes" to help you find her a forever home.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

FW: sweet story (fwd)

[Kat]

Since it's rather slow today...

A frind of mine sent me this link - and I know all of you
will appreciate it.

http://d21c.com/BarryV/BVE_101_Will_Delete_Soon/mailedD6.jpg

Kat (Mew Jersey)

RE: no mail yet?

[Kat]

Kerry,

Yes, I get a copy of my own email.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:55:26 -0500
> From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: no mail yet?
>
> Ok, guys, here's what is not happening, mail-wise (it doesn't really
> matter but I'm wondering if anyone can throw light on..). I am no longer
> getting copies of my own emails that *I'm* sending to the list. What's
> up with that? Is everyone else still receiving copies of their own
> emails?
> (I'll see if I'm getting them on my home computer this evening)
> Kerry
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:58 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: no mail yet?
>
>
> YAY!!! For Mama Kitty!
> Yes, that is a good report!
>
> In a message dated 7/27/2006 10:52:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>   I'm still here...I've just been very busy this week.  Mama kitty
> still looks great, is eating well and has a lot of energy so there's a
> good report.
>
>   elizabeth
>
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Re: Naomi has become an angel...

[Kat]

Oh Hideyo,

I'm so very sorry your time with little Naomi was so short.
Even tho I haven't posted much lately, I've been saying prayers
for both of you.  One of the songs I heard several years ago, sung
by Clint Black is call "Something that we do", and even tho it is
a love song to his wife, the second verse sooo applies to our bonds
with our furkids...

It's holding tight, lettin' go
It's flying high and laying low
Let your strongest feelings show
And your weakness, too
It's a little and a lot to ask
An endless and a welcome task
Love isn't something that we have
It's something that we do

Sleep soft, dear Naomi...

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:
> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:14:16 -0600
> From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Naomi has become an angel...
>
> Thank you very much for all your prayers for Naomi --- she peacefully
> has transited to a new life last night around 10:20 pm... she was in my
> arms when she crossed the bridge.  I knew her time was approaching and
> was praying that she will wait for me until I come home from work.. and
> she did.. I held her in my arms the entire night from the time I came
> home from work to until she crossed the bridge..she is such a strong
> soul... the whole time I was holding, she will look at in my eyes and
> stare at me.. and I kept telling her how much I love her,, and thank her
> for being a part of my life... and how much I will miss her and holding
> her in my arms.. and I also told her that there is nothing to worry
> about... we will be always together.. she will stay in my heart
> eternally.. and there is nothing that keep us apart anymore..she was
> walking around until the final day.. she is just amazing.. a couple of
> times, she stopped breathing.. and had to give her mouth to mouth to
> bring her back.. just because I was selfish and I wanted to extend our
> time together as much as possible.. and she did for me..
>
> After Naomi has one little brother, Simba and one big sister, Dharma,
> and they are both protective of her.. Dharma has always groomed her from
> the very beginning of their time together.. and took care of her so
> well.. when Naomi has been sick, Dharma always has come licked her head
> to make her feel better.. on the other hand,, Simba always wanted to
> wrestle with Naomi.. and even when she was sick.. and naomi would let
> him, though I sometimes, had to tell Simba not to be so rough to play..
> after Naomi passed last night.. Dharma has come and still groomed Naomi
> and tried to take care of her.. and Simba still tried to play with
> her... which made me cry.. but I am sure that Naomi will connect them on
> spiritual level so that they will also be together even after her
> transition...
>
>
> Now, Naomi is free from a body which limited her to do many things..I
> love her soul and love her little body.. she is so beautiful.. I can't
> express how much I am going to miss seeing her little body walking
> around, and to hold a beautiful body in my arms,, and watching her
> beautiful eyes... but I know that I won't have to miss her soul because
> it is right besides me now no matter where I go... Naomi has taught me a
> lot of lessons.. she taught me not to be afraid of "pain" --- and how to
> deal with the pain  and it's not everyone's intension to be here for a
> long time... I have become a bit stronger because of Naomi...her
> vitality taught me to be as strong as she is..
>
> Again, thank you for all your thoughts and prayers for Naomi ---
>
> And please (I don't know whom I should contact directly, but..) add my
> Naomi to the rainbow bridge.. thank you..
>
>
>
> Hideyo and Naomi...

Re: Patches

[Kat]

Diane,

Have you tried the raw liver shake yet?
Even tho it's primarily used for anemia, it's
supposed to be very healing (was developed by
a holistic vet in Hawaii).  My kitties always
seem to like it whenever they've been under
the weather.  It's listed in the archives, but
if you have trouble finding it, I can forward
another copy to you.

Kat (Mew Jersey)


On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Rosenfeldt, Diane wrote:

> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:15:51 -0500
> From: "Rosenfeldt, Diane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Patches
>
>
> I'm worried about Patches.  The little bugger just won't eat enough.
> He's been sickly since we got him, with runny eyes every day, but it's
> been worse in the past week or so.  We took him to the vet Saturday, and
> he had a fever, so the vet put him on antibiotics (I don't even remember
> which one, it's kind of a gray pill that we give 1/2 per day) and gave
> us eyedrops and set us up to syringe-feed him and give fluids as needed.
> We think the fever is down, he's somewhat more active than he was a few
> days ago, and his eyes are looking better, though still runny.  I
> haven't seen him sneezing, though sometimes it looks like he's got the
> same dried gunk in his nose as in his eyes.  We've been syringe-feeding
> him, which he of course hates, but we can only get about half a can down
> him which isn't enough, and he's probably down a good pound by now.  My
> housemate is on 3rd shift, I work days, so the only time we can syringe
> him is at night.  We tried KFC, warmed, and he showed an interest the
> first time, but not so much the two subsequent times.  Tonight we try
> baby food.  When our Luc got pancreatitis followed by fatty liver and
> stopped eating, we had to have an esophageal tube put in, it was so
> stressful on us all to syringe him, but that ended up costing us $1200
> ($600 of it for the overnight stay at the vet because he doesn't
> tolerate anesthesia very well) which was most of my savings and some of
> Gail's.  Luc is our special guy and it saved his life and it was worth
> it, but we simply can't afford that again.
>
> Patches has been very good under very bad circumstances.  Even when he's
> fighting to get away from the syringe, he doesn't use his claws or try
> to bite.  Multiple times during the feedings he'll look like he's going
> to barf, but he has kept it all down.  He's a sweet boy and we want him
> to get through this.  Any suggestions on how to get some good calories
> into him?  I'm off work tomorrow and we can probably manage 3 syringe
> sessions for the next couple days, but I'm not sure that will be enough.
> He goes back to the vet Saturday.  (Gail has just informed me that she
> tried thin-sliced luncheon meat on him this morning, and he ate a whole
> slice.  She offered him a second slice, but he yacked on it (just a
> little bit though) and walked away.  Oh, and last night he ate *one* of
> the treats he used to climb up our noses to get.)
>
> Diane R.
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Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

[Kat]

Dear Hideyo,

I'm sorry Peter had to leave so soon, but you can never know what fate
might have awaited him if you had left him out instead of bringing him
home.

My heart aches for all of the losses you've endured, and I understand
completely about not spending enough time individually because of the
sheer numbers...  But they DO know your love, and the DO have each other,
and they DO understand.

My thoughts and prayers are with you now.
Sleep Soft, dear Peter...

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:13:01 -0600
> From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...
>
> Hi, everyone, thank you very much for your prayers for Peter - Peter has
> crossed the bridge on the way to a peaceful land this afternoon about
> two hours ago - it happened so quickly and was so unexpected and I am
> still in shock.. though my eyes are very exhausted from crying so
> much... I just can't believe how quickly he passed away... and I just
> numb not feeling much
>
>
>
> One week ago, I lost my baby Naomi... and then I lost Peter.. my words
> cannot express how empty I feel and how badly I feel right now.. but I
> know that their souls continue to live and they will be in my heart
> eternallyHere's to my baby Peter..
>
>
>
> Dear My Peter,
>
>
>
> Peter, you are the most beautiful baby I have met in both soul and
> body.. I am so grateful of the opportunity to have met you.. I wish I
> could have spent more time with you..
>
> When I met you and brought you home from Arno street in February, you
> were so talkative and full of energy... I cannot help thinking that your
> life would have been much longer if I did not bring you home because I
> know in my heart that you got something that made you very sick from my
> other kitties at home.. I so badly wanted to fight with you against
> whatever illness that you were fighting against.. and I am so sorry that
> I couldn't make it go away... Peter, I know you have already forgiven
> things as you have heart of angel... I treasure the memory that I have
> had with you forever,, Peter, I am so sorry that you had to go so soon..
> you are only a little over a year old.. I am going to miss you so much,,
> but the thought of your soul continue to live gives me a courage to
> continue to live.. love so dearly and love forever,,
>
>
>
> Your mama..
>
>

Re: just need to vent about my feral feluk

[Kat]

Hi Jeni,

I just wanted to add -
Instead of reading out loud to your wall kitty, if you know anything about
chanting, try it.  It also will help her get used to your voice, and can
be very soothing at the same time.  I also have a very feral black kitty,
named "Lenore" (after the lady in Edgar Allen Poe's "The Raven").  I had
her in a home made "Kitty Kastle" (roughly 6 foot by 6 foot by 2 feet
wide with plenty of platforms) for about a year.  She never tamed down and
would just as soon rip my face off every time I tried to feed her/clean
the litter/etc.  I finally just bit the bullet and let her out to
intermingle with the other cats.  It took several months before she would
even let me see her, but now she will sit there and stare me down when I
enter the room.  I still can't touch her, but she has established herself
with the other cats and I will find her sleeping curled up with them alot.
Just be patient. The other suggestions you've already gotten will help you
too. And if you do use the Rescue Remedy in her water bowl, take some for
yourself too!  Please keep us posted.

Kat (Mew Jersey)


On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, JENI RECA wrote:

> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 03:43:58 +
> From: JENI RECA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: just need to vent about my feral feluk
>
> sorry, I just need to vent about the frustration I am going through right
> now with the feral feluk living in my house...I know I don't have as big as
> problems as everyone else, but I know some of you can sympathize with
> me...so the story is after our beloved papoose died of feluk, I was
> approached at work by the head of the HR department at my shelter and she
> asked me if I could take in a feluk she trapped and spayed and was going to
> release until they found out she was feluk.  I said yes, because our feluk
> Hillman Waller was lonely after papoose passed on and well I was lonely too
> with only one cat and the three dogs in the house and I wanted to help other
> feluks.  My husband  was not too happy at all, didnt really like the idea
> another cat, he didnt even want papoose (but fell head over heels in love
> with him).  So i took home this very feral black female about 5 years old
> feluk postive.  We have had her for about 3 months and I have not gotten to
> touch her once, I am okay with that, but it hurts not to be able to pet her
> and show her I like her.  She first lived in a play cage but was more
> freaked out about being in it and attacked me anytime I went to change the
> litter or feed her, I let her loose in the house.  She had hiding spaces and
> that was fine, I checked up on her and made sure she ate, but now she has
> gotten into the wall of the duplex we live in.  The basement was refinished
> into a living space that we have and they put up new walls but there is a
> space between the new walls and the old and she got into the there by an
> opening that popped open without my knowlegde and now we cant get her out!
> I am so frustrated and upset that she is in the wall and that she isnt going
> to come out for me.  most likely we will have to trap her but i just think
> she so unhappy it seams and I feel bad for her.  she is so freaked out by
> our dogs and our other cat tries to get close to her but she doesnt really
> like him.  he's lonely and she must be lonely, and i fell awful about her
> and now she is the wall and i wrote a really long story.  i know i shouldnt
> complain i know people out here on the list have it a lot worst then me, I
> am just upset and worried because who knows what is in those walls and god
> forbid she eats something back there she shouldnt and chews on something
> back there she shouldn't and well rats, i hope i dont have rats, i live in a
> city...sorry for venting and thank you for listening...everyone is so good
> to each other on this list, it's nice to have
> jeni
>
>
>
>

Re: Frustrated with Vets in AZ

[Kat]

Hi Karen,

Waaay back in the early years of this list, we had a member from Glendale,
AZ (about 35 miles from you).  Her name is Irene Hart and her rescue group
is AZ-HART, and I believe they do adoptions out of the PetSmart in
Phoenix.  She's no longer on this list, but the latest contact info I
found was:  (602) 843-4690, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maybe she can direct you to a good vet???

Kat (Mew Jersey)

Re: Satch is coughing

[Kat]

Hi Leslie,

Sorry for all of your turmoil about your trip.
Can you have Satch boarded at your vets office while you are gone?
That way they can force feed him (and they are usually pros at it)
or even give him nutrients via IV if necessary.  It would give you alot
more peace of mind during your trip...

Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Leslie wrote:

> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:47:54 -0700
> From: Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Satch is coughing
>
> Hi,
> I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond, but things change so fast and I
> hate writing all optimistically just to be congratulated and have to reply
> with bad news.
>
> Satch held his appetite and a ~102 degree fever over the weekend. It dropped
> to 100 yesterday, is back up in the 101 degree range today.  His spirits
> seemed to gather yesterday, as his appetite waned.  His congestion sounds
> just awful, I wish that there was kitty expectorant to give him.  Nothing
> much is coming out and I wonder if the coughing is making his throat sore
> and hence the not eating.  I hate not eating cats!  They make me want to
> curl up and cry.  He's not going to be easy to force feed.  He hasn't
> stopped completely, but compared to what he normally eats, he may as well
> have.  When do you start the force feeding?  How long do you give them to
> regain interest?  Again, his spirits seem good, he slept close last night,
> isn't in hiding, he hangs out in the windows and meows like he wants food,
> then when it's pointed out to him, he just walks away.  He's still drinking
> water on his own.  Does he know that he'll vomit if he eats and that's why
> he doesn't?  I don't want to add vomiting to the mix.  When I put more tuna
> in his mouth he gagged it back up.  Same thing with some fancy feast.
>
> He ate some of my raw food last night, not much.  He ate some baby food last
> night, licked it off of my fingers, but again, not much.  He ate some
> tuna/drank the juice, but not much this morning.  I'm off to the store for a
> humidifier to help with the breathing and the makings of the liver shake.
>
> I'll call the vet again today to get his take.  If he says to start the
> forcefeeding, I don't know what to do.
>
> I'm supposed to go back home to St Louis for four days tomorrow to see
> family.  I can't leave a cat that needs to get force fed with someone.  My
> boyfriend was going to watch him, and I was okay leaving him the task of
> giving the Clavamox, but he's a dog person (who also loves Satch) - so
> asking him to force feed seems unfair to both parties.
>
> I'll ask the vet today what the Western Herbal Tincture was intended to do,
> I don't think that it's meant to be ongoing, it made Satch vomit, so I
> stopped using it.
>
> I'm so distraught, I don't know what to do.  I just want him to eat again.
> I can't leave him not eating, but how can I explain to my 97 year old
> grandmother that I canceled my trip to come back and see her for a sick cat?
>
> Leslie
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:41:39 -0700
> > From: Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Satch is coughing
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > Oh for God's sake, Satch better be okay.  With situations like this I
> > usually stop praying to Spirit and start threatening :).  You did good
> > taking him in right away.  It sounds like you met a nice new vet in the
> > process and he knows about the 'don't wait and see approach for a pos',
> > that's a good sign!  I like that he was encouraging you to adopt another
> > too.  Yep, I like his attitude.  Find out what the herb is that he put
> > Satchmo on and let us know what it is, we're always looking for benign
> > ways to improve immune response, (I assume that's what the herb is
> > for?).  How is Satchmo doing now?  Any more coughing?  Are you positive
> > it wasn't just a hairball?  Keep us informed,
> > Nina
> >
> >
>

Re: Testing

[Kat]

Hi Pam,

It made it through okay!!

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Pam Norman wrote:

> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:52:18 -0700
> From: Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felv 
> Subject: Testing
>
> I seem not to be able to post so if this message gets through can someone 
> email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] & let me know if it shows up on list?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Pam
>
>
> Hurricane Katrina's terrible message:  if it is too dangerous for YOU to stay 
> behind as a disaster approaches, then why would you leave your PETS behind?  
> Never ever ever leave them behind!  Have enough crates for all & take them 
> with you!  They are your family!

Re: Popeye has gone to the bridge

[Kat]

Oh Tonya,

I'm so sorry that Popeye has gone to the Bridge.  And I just don't
understand how the new principal can dock you when you already received
an approved personal day form.  If you received this "by mistake" she
should have only given you a warning, saying it would not be allowed in
the future instead of docking you - g - stupid people hurt my brain.
Please know that you are in my thoughts and prayers.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, catatonya wrote:

> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:48:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> Subject: Popeye has gone to the bridge
>
> This never made it to the list.  I wrote it Friday night I think.
>
> v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}  v\:* {   BEHAVIOR: url 
> (#default#vml)  }
> From: catatonya
>   Date: 08/20/06 13:46:10
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>   Subject: Popeye has gone to the bridge.
>
>
>   Thank you everyone for your thoughts and prayers.  It has just been a 
> horrible weekend.  As a teacher we are not supposed to take a day off school 
> the first week unless it's an 'extreme emergency'.  I followed protocol, 
> called my assistant principal twice and got no return call.  Called my 
> absence in and had an approved personal day form in my mailbox before I took 
> Popeye into the vet on Friday morning.
>
>   We went back and forth on what to do and then decided to wait for the 
> thyroid test to come in on Saturday morning.  Meanwhile they had me bring him 
> home thinking it was less stressful for him here.  However, he could not 
> breathe, so I called the vet back and was arranging to take him back in.  In 
> the meantime at 3:00 (when our school day is over) I received a "corrected 
> form" from my new principal stating that the absence was unexcused and I was 
> being docked for the day.
>
>   Those of you who know my history know that this was enough to put me over 
> the edge.  This is a brand new principal and I was just in shock.  Meanwhile 
> the vet said that if they hyper-t came back as treatable Popeye was going to 
> have to be hospitalized on oxygen for several days at least... I told the 
> vet that my principal had just docked me for the day and was obviously not 
> going to work with me on getting him to the vet (who opens at 8:00, when I'm 
> supposed to be at work at 7:15).   Plus my mobile vet was going out of town 
> for the weekend, and if I waited until Saturday I would have had to take him 
> in to have him euthanized.  I was so hysterical by that time that I just 
> called Dr. Love, and she said she would come by and look at him.  She said he 
> was not going to make it without oxygen and quite a few days of 
> hospitalization if the test came back positive for hyper-t.  So I let him go.
>
>   I have just been in bed crying ever since.  I did call my principal and she 
> said she would 'discuss it with human resources' on Monday.  It's a long 
> story, and I wrote it all out because I plan to get my psychiatrist to write 
> a letter excusing the day as a sick day for mental illness or filing a 
> grievance.  I just cannot believe someone would be so cruel.  I have been 
> with the system longer than this new principal and I have NEVER had a 
> principal give me a problem when I had a sick animal.  If you want to see the 
> letter and have any advice I will send it to you personally.
>
>   Michelle, I thought being an attorney you might have some advice?  I don't 
> really know your area of expertise.  Anyway, I am a mess and don't know how 
> I'm going to make it through work tomorrow.  It's like on top of the death I 
> realize I have at least the rest of this year to work with someone who kicked 
> me in the teeth on what was already a horrible day.  I don't see how I can 
> face her.  How do you deal with people like that?
>
>   Popeye's passing was very peaceful.  Dr. Love gave him a sedative and found 
> the vein right away.  He was basically unconscious when she administered the 
> drug.  I wrapped him in a towel and slept with him that night and took him to 
> my regular vet's to be picked up by the crematorium.  I believe Popeye would 
> have been 14 in November.
>
>   The thyroid test did come back negative, and Dr. Pruitt called me Saturday 
> morning and said I had made the right decision.  She believes he had thrown a 
> blood clot (thrombosis???) in his lung.  If I had euthanized him and then 
> found out it was treatable I guess I would have been in worse shape than I am 
> now.  Please pray for me.
>
>   Tonya
>
> wendy <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Positive Thoughts for Slinky (and his Mom)

[Kat]

Hi MJ,

Slinky will be just fine, and will welcome you back with hugs and kitty
kisses!!  Talk to him now, as if he understands words, and tell him what
is going on, and when you'll be back, and that you'll bring him back a
kitty present, etc.  By talking to him out loud you will be able to relax
more about your trip, and he WILL understand that you are not going to
abandon him.  The more you relax, the less worried he will be. It sounds
like you have everything covered.  Just leave your number (and your vet's
number) with your co-worker, and maybe call your vet to let them know who
will be watching Slinky for you, so that they have that info on file.  I'm
sending you <<>> hugs. Have a safe trip.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Marissa Johnson wrote:

> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:10:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Positive Thoughts for Slinky (and his Mom)
>
> Hi all.  I can't believe I'm even sending this considering that Slinky is 
> asymptomatic and seems to be fine...and as compared to the struggles you all 
> have, this is such a tiny matter!  But...I could use your positive thoughts 
> anyway.
>
>   I'm going out of town tomorrow for about 4 days (leaving tomorrow morning, 
> returning monday night)...and I am S nervous about leaving Slinky!  This 
> will be the first time I've ever left him overnight!!
>
>   One of my coworkers is going to come in every day and feed him, play with 
> him, and clean out his litter box.  I've gone through everything with her and 
> she loves animals.  I'm leaving his dry food and water in automatic feeders 
> (also the first time for using those) and she will give him canned food when 
> she comes.  I'm sure everything will be fine, but...I'm kind of freaking out!
>
>   I'm worried that he'll get into something, get sick, or that he'll just 
> hate me for leaving him!  Last weekend, my boyfriend and his sister were 
> here.  He and I went to a movie and his sister told me Slinky sat near the 
> door and cried for about 15 minutes until she went and told him she was still 
> there.  And yesterday when I left for work, I could hear him meowing behind 
> the door after I left!  :(
>
>   Really, I KNOW this isn't a big deal and I know there are so many other 
> problems I could be dealing with.  But I would still appreciate your positive 
> thoughts and prayers...for Slinky AND for me!!  I'll be at a conference where 
> I'm speaking several times and kind of need to be "on" so I don't want to be 
> too worried.  And I just hope he'll still love me after I get back!
>
>   I'm sure I sound mellow-dramatic, but since he's my first pet as an adult, 
> and this is the first time I've left him, I'm just...worried.  Thanks for all 
> your support and for understanding!!!
>
>   I hope you and all you kitties are doing well!!
>
>   MJ
>
>
> -
> Get your email and more, right on the  new Yahoo.com

Re: Angel has gone to the bridge

[Kat]

Karen,

I'm so sorry to hear that Angel is gone.  I was so hoping she would be
able to make a comeback for you.  Sleep soft, dear Angel...

Kat (Mew jersey)

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, kandbz_ mom wrote:

> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:19:05 -0700 (PDT)
> From: kandbz_ mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Angel has gone to the bridge
>
> Thanks everyone for keeping us in your thoughts and prayers.  Angel died 
> peacefully at home.  I had a feeling she didn't want to be taken to the vet 
> to be put down.  I am just so heartbroken as I had only had her for less than 
> two months and she was only 5 months old.  She seemed to be doing so good and 
> then over the weekend, took a turn for the worse.
>
>   Thanks again for all the support. I greatly appreciate it.
>
>   Karen
>
>
> -
> Do you Yahoo!?
>  Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.<>

Re: OT: Need feedback please

[Kat]

Belinda,

I think the re-wording Marissa suggested is good - with only a minor
adjustment.  I would add "if they haven't already died during the
experimentation." to make it read...

Unfortunately, there are many people in the world who would take advantage
of a free pet and use it for all kinds of unthinkable things.  Believe it
or not, there are actually people who use cats to train dogs to fight
(encouraging the dog to aggressively mame and kill the cat), or to feed
their snakes.  There are actually sick, demented people who look for free
animals to torture and beat until they finally get bored and kill them.
Additionally, there are bunchers who sell free or cheap pets for anywhere
from $30 to $100 to labs who will experiment on them and then kill them
if they haven't already died during the experimentation.
I know you dont want any of these things to happen to Tiger, and that is
why we require a minimum fee rather than allowing people to give away
their pets.

What do you think??

Kat (Mew Jersey)

RE: Question about different FeLV tests

[Kat]

Gina,

Maybe if you had said ImmunoFlourescent Assay  she could have asked
one of the vet techs?

I wouldn't switch vets just yet - you need to find out if the vet thinks
the way the receptionist does (or not).  If it's just her, and you like
your vet, stay.  You can always devise ways of dealing (or not) with the
receptionist.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Gina WN wrote:

> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:43:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Gina WN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: Question about different FeLV tests
>
> Hideyo and All,
>
>   I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFA test 
> was. I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get back from 
> vacation in two weeks.  I assured her that my cats all my cats are strictly 
> indoor cats.  Her response was, "Well there's always the chance that a bat 
> could fly into the house." Should I be laughing or finding a new vet office?
>
>   Gina
>
> Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  o\:* 
> {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  .shape 
> {behavior:url(#default#VML);}st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }   
>  Western Blot is for FIV, and you want to use IFA test for Felk 
> to determine whether the virus is present at bone marrow level.
>   I mentioned that I did not like antech as their lab results have not been 
> reliable more than a few times. And I prefer IDEXX personally.. but they may 
> send out to another lab for IFA test as not all the lab run IFA test.. lab at 
> Cornell is very very througough, but I think they also send out IFA to 
> someone else?call Margie at 1-607-253-3900 at Cornell to get a form if you 
> want your vet to send a sample there to find out if they run IFA test 
> there I highly recommend?
>
>
> -
>
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gina WN
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:13 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Question about different FeLV tests
>
>
> It's getting closer to the time for Pippin to have her second FeLV test.  
> I want to make sure I understand which test to ask for.  Is the IFA test the 
> same as the Western Blot?  If not, which test should I ask for?  Secondly, is 
> there a specific lab that I should ask for the test to be sent to in 
> California?  I recall reading something on this list about a certain lab that 
> was not reliable--is that correct?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gina
>
>
> Please visit my Tigger Tales site!
>
>
> At the bottom of the home and links pages are my merchant affiliate 
> banners.  If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a 
> percentage of all final sales.  I am going to donate 100% of the proceeds to 
> animal welfare organizations.  This is a great way to shop your favorite 
> online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause.  Thank you in advance!
>
>
>
> -
>
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>
>
>
>
> Please visit my Tigger Tales site!
>   At the bottom of the home and links pages are my merchant affiliate 
> banners.  If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a 
> percentage of all final sales.  I am going to donate 100% of the proceeds to 
> animal welfare organizations.  This is a great way to shop your favorite 
> online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause.  Thank you in advance!
>
>
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Re: Question about different FeLV tests

[Kat]

Not all bats carry rabies, so don't get too paranoid.

The following is found @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat

"There are estimated to be about 1,100 species of bats worldwide,
accounting for about 20% of all mammal species."
"Only 0.5% of bats carry rabies. However, of the very few cases of rabies
reported in the United States every year, most are caused by bat bites."

The following is from:
http://www.idph.state.ia.us/adper/common/pdf/cade/rabies_exposure_bats.pdf#search=%22bat%20species%20rabies%22

"In incidents where the bat is confirmed as, or highly likely to be, a big
brown or little brown bat species, i.e. house bats the risk of rabies
transmission is greatly reduced compared to silverhair/pipistrelle species
and Mexican free-tail species (not present in Iowa).  After careful
examination of patient(s) and no evidence of bite it would be permissible
to consider not administering rabies post-exposure treatment."

And from: http://www.batcon.org/home/index.asp?idPage=91&idSubPage=62

"Which bat variances of the rabies virus have been transmitted to humans?
Rabies virus variances associated with six of the 45 bat species living in
the continental United States have been transmitted to humans. These
include the silver-haired bat (Lasionycteris noctivagans), the Mexican
free-tailed bat (Tadarida brasiliensis), the big brown bat (Eptesicus
fuscus), the eastern pipistrelle (Pipistrellus subflavus), and two species
that were not positively identified. These are suspected of having been
western (Myotis ciliolabrum) and eastern (M. leibii) small-footed myotis.
Variances of the rabies virus attributed to bats that commonly live in
buildings have been associated with eight human fatalities in U.S.
history.
Do large bat populations lead to increased incidence of rabies
transmission to humans?
The largest urban bat populations consist almost exclusively of colonial
species, and there is no evidence linking them to increased transmission
to humans. Tens of thousands of people have closely observed the
emergences of 1.5 million Mexican free-tailed bats at the Congress Avenue
Bridge in Austin, Texas each summer for over 16 years without incident. In
fact, though Austin, San Antonio, and several other Texas Hill Country
towns likely support the highest bat densities in America, they have
recorded no human cases of bat-transmitted rabies."

Kat (Mew jersey)

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Gina WN wrote:

> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:34:21 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Gina WN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Question about different FeLV tests
>
> Oh my goodness!  I didn't know.  We haven't ever seen one bat at our house or 
> yard, but there's always a chance and I expect they need to let people know. 
> I will have my hubby take her while I'm gone.
>
>   Thank you!
>   Gina
>
>
> Stephanie E Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> I just called my vet and the receptionist did not know what an IFA test 
> >> was. I also have to postpone Pippin's rabies vaccine until I get back from 
> >> vacation in two weeks. I assured her that my cats all my cats are strictly 
> >> indoor cats. Her response was, "Well there's always the chance that a bat 
> >> could fly into the house." Should I be laughing or finding a new vet 
> >> office?
>
> My barn owner had several HUNDRED bats in his attic. INSIDE his house.
> It happens! We have several hundred in the barn loft, too!
>
> Steph
>
>
>
>
> Please visit my Tigger Tales site!
>   At the bottom of the home and links pages are my merchant affiliate 
> banners.  If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a 
> percentage of all final sales.  I am going to donate 100% of the proceeds to 
> animal welfare organizations.  This is a great way to shop your favorite 
> online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause.  Thank you in advance!
>
>
> -
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>  Everyone is raving about the  all-new Yahoo! Mail.

Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.

[Kat]

Hi Kayte,

Since you only had Pokemon since last Oct, and she didn't appear to be
sick when you got her (at least that's what I assume - otherwise you
wouldn't have mixed the 2 cats?), it could very well be that Pokemon
didn't flare up until just recently and therefore Crackers is testing
positive because he was just recently exposed. Since Crackers seems to be
a healthy 5 yo, he could very well throw the virus off.  I would look for
another vet - where are you located?

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:41:09 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
>
> after i called the vet over 20 times he finally answered and said yes
> crackers IFA is positivei asked him can he throw the virus...the vet said 
> no
> the IFA confirms he is full blown luekemia...i said what should i do,...he 
> said
> there is nothing to do...my baby crackers is 5yrs old and has never been sick
>  ever with anything and I WONT GIVE UP!!!...i cant believe this vet..MAKE
> THAT MY  EX VET...i am looking for another vet and will not go back to 
> him...ok
> you  wonderful people are my guardians..i will do anything suggested..money is
> not a  factor when it comes to my baby...i will do anything please respond
> please is  this IFA final or should i retest?
> kayte
>

Re: vitamin c?

[Kat]

Hi Kayte,

Yes, you can get several different varieties of Vit C at the health food
store.  You can even find them at most pharmacies and even some
supermarkets now.  It's for people, and the doses listed on the bottles
are *generally* geared towards people weighing about 120 to 150 lbs - so
if your kitty only weighs 12-15 lbs, divide by 10.  Start on the low side
and work your way up slowly to "tolerance" - too much too fast will cause
diarrhea.

Also, as far as vets go - Terri (one of our listmembers) swears by
Dr. Emily Jarvis at the Carnegie Cat Clinic in Princeton, NJ.

Michelle is also on this list and says her mom uses Martinsville Animal
Clinic.  She completely loves one of the three vets there, the only woman,
Dr. Caille (pronounced kay-lee?).

And this link will give you the AAFP list of cat-specific vets in NJ
http://www.aafponline.org/find_results.php?name=&city=Any&state=NJ&country=USA&zipcode=&Submit=Submit
(you can searh again with your zip code to narrow things down a bit)

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:50:47 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: vitamin c?
>
> ok hope this doesn't sound silly but where do i get vitamin c? like a  health
> store and how much do i give?
>
>

What our cats do when we're not at home (was: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.

[Kat]

Hi All,

I received this from another list I'm on. It's nearly 3 mins. long --
video clip of cat and commode. Thought you might enjoy it.

http://pagentsprogress.com/?p=281

Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:50:20 +
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
>
> Leslie,
> You made me spit out my Diet Coke! I often wonder if they are sitting at home 
> with their paws propped up on my coffee table, if they are it's not out of 
> self pity, it's more out of feeling entitled. I suspect they are more into 
> Oprah then Ricki, but you never know.
>  You have a great attitude!
> Maggie

Re: I'm glad you're sitting down - Spencer

[Kat]

Yay Nina,

I'm so glad Spencer's back!
  _
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(^.^) ) )
_) (,' /
  ,'  /
 ( (\(   <--- me doing my happy dance for you!!
  \_)\\
  ))
 /  , /
(  ( (
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(_/(_/


Kat (Mew Jersey)

RE: Minnion has gone to the Bridge

[Kat]

Dear Kayte,

I'm so sorry to hear about sweet little Minnion... It does feel comforting
to know she is now with Pokies. And I'm sorry your son is having such a
hard time - 2 losses so close together.

I came across the following story a while ago - okay, it's about a little
boy and his Dog, but wanted to share it with you in case you think your
son might understand. (I do not know who the author is - sorry)

Kat (Mew Jersey)
---
Why Dogs don't Live As Long As People (Out of the mouths of Babes!)

Being a veterinarian, I had been called to examine a ten-year-old Irish
Wolfhound named Belker. The dog's owners; Ron, his wife, Lisa, and their
little boy, Shane were all very attached to Belker and they were hoping
for a miracle. I examined Belker and found he was dying of cancer.

I told the family there were no miracles left for Belker, and offered to
perform the euthanasia procedure for the old dog in their home. As we made
arrangements, Ron and Lisa told me they thought it would be good for the
four-year-old Shane to observe the procedure. They felt Shane could learn
something from the experience.

The next day, I felt the familiar catch in my throat as Belker's family
surrounded him. Shane seemed so calm, petting the old dog for the last
time, that I wondered if he understood what was going on.

Within a few minutes, Belker slipped peacefully away. The little boy
seemed to accept Belker's transition without any difficulty or confusion.
We sat together for a while after Belker's death, wondering aloud about
the sad fact that animal lives are shorter than human lives. Shane, who
had been listening quietly, piped up, "I know why." Startled, we all
turned to him. What came out of his mouth next stunned me - I'd never
heard a more comforting explanation.

He said, "Everybody is born so that they can learn how to live a good life
- like loving everybody and being nice, right?" The four-year-old
continued, "Well, animals already know how to do that, so they don't have
to stay as long."
---
>
> My sisters 5 month old kitten has passed away. Minnion was a sweet
> fiesty girl and then started to not eat a lot. She was neg for FIV and
> FELV. We took her to the vet and by the time we got there she was almost
> gone. He gave he some meds  and in less then 2 mins she was gone. I felt
> so good to be with her in her last moments. She was suffering and now
> she is not. I firmly believe everything happens for a reason. I have
> learned that I CAN NOT get another FELV infected kitten at this time. My
> son has been a wreck all day and wont eat. He is just crying for Minion.
> Minion was the runt of the bunch. She came from a barn cat. I did read
> him the Rainbow Bridge again and he still was upset. My mom cried to as
> how beautiful it was. Now Minion is playing with Pokies and all your
> babies. Hope all is good with everyone:)
> kayte and Crackers

Re: Fw: Urgent--Please cross post to all! 48 hours left to save 36felines

[Kat]

Dunellen, NJ I believe?


On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:47:27 EDT
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Fw: Urgent--Please cross post to all! 48 hours left to save
> 36felines
>
>
>
> What is the location of these cats?
> Thanks!
>
>
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:49 AM
> Subject: Urgent--Please cross post to all! 48 hours left to save  36 felines
>
>
>
>
> Less  than 48 hours remain before loving housecats are taken from their home
> and  euthanized.
> Rescue  Groups Needed
> Foster  Homes Needed
> Individuals  Needed
> If  several people take just one or two, they can be  saved.
>
> PLEASE  CROSS POST TO ALL ANIMAL PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU MAY BE IN
> CONTACT  WITH.
>
> Details:
> An urgent situation has come up  involving 36 cats in a Dunellen residence.
> The woman who owns them, who has been  on the fringe of rescue for a few
> years, has suffered an extreme mental  breakdown.  This information just  
> comes to
> us (friends who have worked with her in the past) and we are told  that a
> distant family member has already stepped in and will be putting the  woman 
> in the
> hospital on Tuesday, September 26.  The relative has arranged for animal
> control to come to the house to take the animals on Wednesday morning,  
> September
> 27.
> This is urgent???these animals are  rescued, well-adjusted, loving, friendly
> pets who are used to being loved and  cared for.  Used to sleeping in  their
> owner???s bed, and used to giving and receiving affection.  The woman???s
> compromised state has just  come to the attention of people who are willing 
> to help;
> however, this news  comes at the height of kitten season, where everyone who 
> is
> capable is  overextended without being allotted more time.
> There is no time for photos right  now???we have done the best we could to at
> least get descriptions of some of the  most adoptable animals, which the woman
> was lucid enough to describe to  us.  We are hoping that you can  see thru the
> print on the page to the eyes and faces that need you to reach  out to them.
> They are as  follows:
> Gumby:  Female, light gray long-haired cat,  very sweet???starts kneading her
> feet at the sight or voice of a visitor.  Age 7 or 8  years.
> Honey???4 years old???just a kitten  when rescued, and for her to endure such 
> an
> end is unjust.  She is a lovely white patch calico  cat, extremely sweet and
> affectionate???kisses her owner on the lips and  nose.
> Sugar???a tortie lapcat, age 3 to 4  years.
> Red???DSH Orange male tabby  cat???handsome lump of loving!
> Brian???Orange cat with  white bib and white feet???extremely friendly and
> lovable.
> Another male orange tabby there,  about 5 years old, who is a mushpot???I 
> couldn
> ???t get the name from the voice  mail I received???super friendly and loves 
> to
> headbutt.  5-years old and has crumpled ears from  past neglected ear problems
> before rescue.
> Midnight???Longhaired black cat rescued from  a cruelty case in Dunellen a few
> years ago.  Age 4 to 5 years, friendly and so  affectionate.  Female I  
> think???
> Itty-Bitty???Black and white female  that has a tendency to be fearful of 
> other
> animals, therefore inviting them to  pick on her???she would be best suited 
> for
> people only, and needs gentle  reassurance and love???She doesn???t like to be
> picked up, but will come and purr  and rub around your legs to give 
> affection???
> she is primed to learn to trust  someone who can take time with her.
> Blackie???Longhaired black male cat,  again, rescued from the Dunellen
> nightmare.  Also shy, but well-mannered and keeps  to himself.  Loves to sit 
> in the
> window.
> Benny, Willie and Muffin???siblings,  all are gray/Russian-Blue type who are
> about 6 to 7 years old.  Extremely loveable and greet  visitors???friendly 
> sweet
> and playful???too good to be put to  death!
> Toby???Male, front declawed cat,  extremely affectionate.
> Rhett???Orange tabby, a  little older than the rest at age 9 or 10.  SO
> loveable!
> Angel???Longhaired black and white  kitty, so loving, not shy at all, runs to
> the kitchen to greet her owner and  anyone else who comes in.
> Molly???female kitty???no other info,  the message cut off here.
> There are more, but these  represent the greatest part of the animals???most
> are friendly and  well-adjusted.  All are adults who  are spayed and neutered.
> This woman had a breakdown and has  been unable to care for these kitties???
> they are desperate to find  homes???permanent, foster, or rescue organization.
> There is no alternative for these cats  unless several groups or individuals 
> can
> step in???and there is no time to wait  it out and see how it goes???.there is
> today, Monday, and tomorrow, Tuesday,  that???s it.
> If you can help with any of these  animals, please contact Kathleen at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (

Re: Buzz emancipated

[Kat]

Hi Sue,

(I mostly lurk these days, but have been around for a long time..)

To help your other cats, you will want to keep their immune systems as
strong as possible.  So almost everything you do for Buzz will help the
others too.  The high quality food, the kitty vitamins, using lactoferrin
or colostrum or DMG, reducing the amount of stress, etc, will help all of
your kitties.  

If you are worried about introductory hissy fits, you can start now by
rubbing your kitties with a towel (to get their scent on it) and putting
it in Buzz's room, and rubbing Buzz with another towel to get the others
used to his scent.  Also, you can put a dab of vanilla flavoring on the
back of each kitty's neck & at the base of their tails to help them all
smell alike when you finally let Buzz out.  I have also heard people
recommend Feliway (either the plug-ins or the spray, or both) to help
reduce stress/anxiety during introductions - start using this a few days
before letting them mix.  Rescue Remedy can also help.  You can put it in
their water or rub some onto their ears/paws, and you can even take some
to help you relax too!

HTH,
Kat (mew Jersey)

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Sue Koren wrote:

> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 8:39:13 -0400
> From: Sue Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: FeLV Talk 
> Subject: Buzz emancipated
> 
> Hello, everyone, This coming Friday the last of my 5 FeLV- cats will
> get his booster.  Then I will wait the appropriate amount of time and
> release Buzz from his prison room into the general population.  I am
> scared to death.  I would rather continue to keep them seperate but
> Buzz is crazy to escape his room every time we open the door and the
> time I spend behind the closed door with him is taking away from my
> family, not to mention the other cats.  My question is this;  is there
> anything anyone knows of besides the vaccinations that I can do for my
> other cats that may help to protect them?  They are all being fed the
> Wellness canned food.  Buzz will soon be getting a vitamin suppliment
> that is supposed to boost the immune systems of FeLV+ cats that my vet
> found, but I doubt if it does anything to stop the virus from
> shedding.  Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Sue
> 
> 

Re: OT - I miss the OT list

[Kat]

Hi Kelley,

Yes, Phaewryn nuked it when you were going thru the seizure of
your rescue kitties ordeal.  

Kat (Mew Jersey) 

On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Kelley Saveika wrote:

> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:19:17 -0500
> From: Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: OT - I miss the OT list
> 
> The information I have is that the OT list was nuked 6-7 months ago.
> As I haven't actually tried accessing it I don't know if it is true.
> I haven't gotten any posts from there tho.
> 
> On 4/10/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > hmm...did I miss something?
> >
> > TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS
> > SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE
> > http://tazzys.org/
> >
> > http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/
> >
> > Terrie Mohr-Forker
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> 
> http://www.rescuties.org
> 
> Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20
> 
> Check out our Memsaic!
> http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9
> 
> http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*
> 
> Please help Clarissa!
> 
> http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart
> 
> http://www.change.org/rescuties
> 
> 

Re: Today is test day

[Kat]

Hi Sue,

Good Luck today - I'm keeping you & Buzz in my prayers for a positive
outcome/negative test results!!

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Sue Koren wrote:

> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 8:25:16 -0400
> From: Sue Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: FeLV Talk 
> Subject: Today is test day
> 
> Hello everybody,
> Today after work I will take Buzz to have his first re-test since he was 
> diagnosed positive for FeLV.  I am trying not to hope too much, but there is 
> a bottle of champagne in the fridge if he turns out negative.  Tuna for Buzz 
> - I don't think he likes champagne.
> Meanwhile he has been released from his room and is socializing with the 
> other cats.  I did some of the things the people in this group recommended 
> and that probably helped. All went well until a couple of days ago when some 
> electricians came to our house.  He really freaked!  He hid for 8 hours after 
> they were gone.  His fear probably had something to do with the abuse he 
> received as a kitten.
> Anyway, if anyone would care to say a prayer for my little kitty it sure 
> would be appreciated.
> Sue
> 
> 

Re: Taking My Deceased Wife's Name Off the Felvtal List:

[Kat]

Dear David,

Please accept my condolences on your recent loss of Sharon.  She was one
of our long-time members. (I still have a couple of her emails, dating
back to 2001).  You and your kitties are in my thoughts & prayers.

Sleep soft, dear Sharon...

Kat (Mew Jersey) 

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Sharon Siders wrote:

> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:59:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Sharon Siders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felv 
> Subject: Taking My Deceased Wife's Name Off the Felvtal List:
> 
>  
> Please remove my wife's name from the felvtalk e-mailing addresses.
>  
> My wife passed away about three weeks ago.  She really appreciated being 
> on your e-mail list, but to be quite honest with you I just get upset when I 
> receive felvtalk e-mails.  I still have my two little furry feline 
> buddies that are experiencing with me the process of "grieving."  I need 
> to spend time with them and they need to spend time with me.  I hope you 
> understand and sometime in the future I might rejoin the group.
>  
> Thanks in Advance,
>  
> David L. Siders
> Husband of the late Sharon Siders
>  
> 
> 
>   


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Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone....

[Kat]

Dear Christine,

I am so sorry to hear that it was Romeo's time to leave you.
Thank you for sharing Romeo's story with us - it is so inspiring.

Sleep soft, dear Romeo...

You are in my thoughts & prayers.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008, Chris wrote:

> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:37:28 -0500
> From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone
> 
> It is with a very heavy heart that I tell you that I lost my Romeo today to
> lymphoma.  I write not out of grief but to encourage all the newbies who
> wonder whether they can hang on with a FELV positive, whether they know
> enough to take care of them, whether they should mix, etc.  And the
> resounding answer is YES YES YES.  My Romeo was a throw away stray that I
> first met 7+ years ago when I helped someone out feeding a little colony
> near me.  He was already an adult (3-4 years old) who would come running
> across the field when I?d whistle and meow the whole way so I wouldn?t miss
> him.  He would get underfoot, get bullied by the other cats, bury
> everybody?s food, and just rub up against my leg for some loving.  I knew
> someone had been unkind to him cause if I raised my hand, he?d scamper away,
> just out of reach, cowering.  
> 
>  
> 
> Fast forward two years and we had one of the coldest NY winters we?ve had in
> a long time.  One weekend, we were expecting zero degree temps and a major
> snowstorm.  Romeo was the last of the colony and I knew I had to bring him
> in.  I even had an adoptive home ready?but he turned out to be positive and
> they couldn?t handle it.  Soo, he stayed in my room for a few weeks,
> watching my every move, figuring out the TV and the vacuum cleaner weren?t
> that bad.  Slowly, he started coming out of his crate at night when he
> thought I was asleep.  Little baby steps?first the food dish got moved next
> to his crate.  Then the litter box in the bathroom.  And slowly, he?d come
> out during the day.  I knew we won the battle when I peeked out over my
> monitor to spot him on my bed.  You could see it in his face?this is
> niiice and from that point on, he was totally
> comfortable being in and around we humans.  Funny thing is that he never
> really wanted to get out?he rarely sat at the window?the couch and the bed
> were always much more comfortable for him!
> 
>  
> 
> Over these last 4 ? years, Romeo turned into the most loving cat you?d ever
> want to meet.  Only thing I could never do was pick him up or restrain him
> in any way---he was just too scared.  But he?d jump up on me, lie on my
> chest as I was trying to get to sleep, follow me around like a puppy dog and
> otherwise just kept thanking all the humans he met for being safe and warm
> and loved.  My other cats were a bit leary of him and Tucson never did take
> much of a liking to him?all jealousy, I?m sure.  But Romeo persevered and
> the two of them had come to terms with each other...
> 
>  
> 
> His final illness took him quickly.  He?d never been real sick before?had
> some gum and teeth problems a couple of times, but that was it.  Going to
> the vet was a major trauma for him so I?d always worked with my wonderful
> vet to keep those visits to a bare minimum.  But today was one of those days
> that I knew he had to get to the vet asap.  He?d been feeling poorly during
> the week and over the weekend, he started breathing very hard?like he
> couldn?t catch his breath.  He?d been on antibiotics for what I thought was
> another gum problem but when we got to the vet, I knew it was a whole lot
> more.  My vet sent me immediately to our local specialty hospital and they
> confirmed the lymphoma.  He had a large mass in his chest, his lungs had
> filled up with fluid, and I knew that emotionally and physically, he could
> never withstand an aggressive course of treatment that in all likelihood
> would only give him a short extension of his life.  So, I made that decision
> we all dread after I looked in his eyes and knew he was telling me it was
> time.  I stroked him to the end and told him I loved him.
> 
>  
> 
> And do I regret taking him in?ABSOLUTELY NOT.  He gave me so many wonderful
> memories and he will always be in my heart.  And did he regret coming
> inside?ABSOLUTELY NOT?he had almost 5 years of a wonderful life and I know
> that had he stayed out, he would have died a miserable death from the cold
> and hunger or an infection and he would have been alone.  We can?t save them
> forever?but we can give them some wonderful time and we can all learn so
> very much about life from these little guys.  
> 
>  
> 
> Christiane Biagi
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz is gone/Donations

[Kat]

Dear Sue,

My heart goes out to you - you made the right choice for Buzz, and you
made it from love.  It seems that alot of kitties do NOT like going to the
vet (thus, do not like being put in a carrier) - my Cinders (not FeLV+)
also fought her last trip even tho the tumor in the back of her throat had
grown enough that she only lapped at the juices in her food for over a
week .

Sleep soft, dear Buzz...

As far as a donation to James goes, you can donate online to him - just go
to the website: http://www.felineleukemia.org/
and on the bottom of the Menu box is a link to the "Donate to Our Cause"
page.  If you pay by check, you can add a note saying it's "In Memory of
Buzz".  I'm not sure if there is a comments section for paypal, but you
can always send him a separate note anyway...

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, Sue & Frank Koren wrote:

> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:20:28 -0500
> From: Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzz is gone
> 
> Today I had to have my sweet little kitty Buzz PTS.  I feel like a very large 
> piece of me is missing.
> 
> The first time I saw Buzz I fell in love with him.  He was terrified, 
> cowering between two up-ended mattresses in an unused bedroom at my brothers' 
> house.  He had been abused by neighborhood boys in an urban area where my 
> brother used to live.  When my sister in law, Lee, rescued him he was very 
> sick, full of parasites, starving and near death.  She and my brother nursed 
> him back to physical health but he was still terrified of people. They named 
> him Buzz Saw because of the way his claws flew whenever anyone got near him.  
> That day Lee caught him in a blanket and handed him to me.  I sat with him 
> and gently pet him and talked to him.  Within about 20 minutes he was 
> purring. Before we left that day he reached up to me and touched noses.
> 
> After about a week I talked my husband into keeping him.  When I brought him 
> home I put him into our study so he had a smaller space to get used to, and 
> to keep him separate from the other cats. When I took him to the vet a few 
> days later his feline leukemia test came back positive.  Buzz was going to 
> live in the study for quite a while so I filled it with cat toys and a cat 
> tree and pretty much spoiled him as much as much as I could. Every evening I 
> would spend hours with him.  I was working on a computer project and he kept 
> me company with that. That is how it was from January of '07 to April.  At 
> that point it was clear that keeping him separate was not working.  We 
> vaccinated the other cats for feline leukemia and released Buzzy into the 
> rest of the house.  He loved his new freedom and became every ones quiet 
> little shadow. He loved to watch what was going on.  His favorite place was a 
> window bench that looks out on the bird feeder.  At night he either slept on 
> a ledge right behind my head or cuddled up next to me, purring.  When July 
> came I noticed that he seemed to have no energy and was not eating.  When we 
> took him to the vet the diagnosis was anemia.  With heavy doses of 
> prednesolone his health and red blood count began to come back.  I was so 
> happy watching my sweet boy gaining back his energy and appetite.  While he 
> was recuperating I would take him out to sit on the deck on my lap.  He loved 
> sniffing the outdoor smells and feeling the warm sunshine on his fur.  He 
> would sit and purr out there for as long as I could sit and hold him.  In the 
> evenings Buzzy loved to chase DaBird and the laser pointer.  His blood was 
> being tested every couple of weeks and soon it was in the normal range.  We 
> began to back off on the prednesolone.  For several weeks everything was 
> going well until the week that his blood count started going the wrong 
> direction.  I prayed that it was just the one time but unfortunately not.  
> That horrible disease was in his bone marrow and the medication was no longer 
> helping.  For the last several weeks I watched as he became more and more 
> lethargic.  We offered him every special treat we could think of to keep him 
> eating and he would nibble on those tidbits almost to the end.  He would sit 
> all day on his window seat and for the last week we carried him to the litter 
> box.  He always watched every move I made as I moved around the kitchen. 
> Today when he just put his head down in exhaustion instead of watching, I 
> knew it was time to say goodbye to my darling boy. When I took him to the vet 
> I told him how much I have loved him and asked him to meet me at the bridge.  
> Then he went to sleep in my arms.  I will mis

Re: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service (do we still have one?)

[Kat]

Dear Gloria, 

I'm so sorry your B.B. had to leave you.

Sleep Soft, dear B.B. ...

You are both in my thoughts & prayers.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Gloria B. Lane wrote:

> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:16:05 -0600
> From: Gloria B. Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] B. B. died - please add to the Candlelight service
> (do we still have one?)
> 
> One of my FELV kitties, B.B., died in the early morning of Dec 2,  
> 2008, and I'd love to have him added to the Bridge list.  He was a  
> double positive (FELV+, FIV+), had been found at a local dump in the  
> Little Rock vicinity, and taken in to our rescue.  I've fostered him  
> since October 2006, and he's been such a sweet, loving cat.  But he  
> developed a tail infection a while back, and we've been dealing with  
> that ever since.  He alway ate like a horse, till the last couple of  
> days.
> 
> He never could gain weight or pull out of the illness, he may have had  
> other things going on, I'm not sure.
> 
> B.B., who I think stands for Beautiful Boy, crossed over to the Bridge  
> early yesterday morning, Tuesday December 2, 2008. He was a sweet boy.
> 
> Gloria
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: My Mother went to the Rainbow Bridge

[Kat]

Dear Terrie,

I am so sorry to read of your mom's passing.  She sounds like a very
special person, and I'm sure she will be missed by many.

You are in my thoughts & prayers.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 tatorb...@aol.com wrote:

> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:50:08 EST
> From: tatorb...@aol.com
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: My Mother went to the Rainbow Bridge
> 
> 
>  
> Hello  everyone,
> I'm letting everyone know this is part of my grieving and makes me feel  
> little better. 
> To let you know the situation if I don't respond right away to prior  emails.
> Another email was sent to all the rescues groups of the same wording.
>  
> Many of you have ask about my mother and sent many prayers by emails, phone  
> calls, also in person to my mother and myself.
> With  great sadness in my heart today my mother passed away this morning. 
> As she wished she wants to be cremated and be buried with my father.
> I spent many hours with her the last few days only home long enough to feed  
> and do litter boxes.
>  
> She was an  avid animal lover especially when it came to cats and kittens.
> She was a  reputable breeder from the 60's to early 80's.
> Her breed was  Siamese and Persian cats.
> In the last  20 years she chose to take homeless and rescue kitties into her  
> home.
> They were  given very much needed love and care.
> When she  would come to visit me as she was in a convalescent home during the 
> last year  she would get her kitty fixes by coming to my home.
> She would  call all of the rescue cats and kittens to her along with my 
> personal kitties.  So she could be around them all and give them plenty of 
> love. 
> She took such  pleasure in this. She would spoil them greatly.
> Even feeding them such as turkey, chicken, and beef when she could get away  
> with it.
>  
> Her services  will be at a later date.
> I will let  you all know.
> My brother is  putting article in the local newspaper about her within the 
> next day or  two.
>  
> Thanks again  for all your support in the past and present regarding my  
> mother!
> 
>  
> Please  vote!
> 
> _http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145_ 
> (http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145) 
> 
> Tazzys  Animal Transports/Siamese and Collie Rescue
> Sultan, WA  98294
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] testing the list

[Kat]

Hi James,

I'm still here too - even though I don't have any FeLV+ kitties anymore.
So I just lurk for the most part these days.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, James G Wilson wrote:

> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:48:30 -0600
> From: James G Wilson 
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] testing the list
> 
> Hey all, 
> 
> Just testing the list since there's been no activity since 
> Saturday. Here's hoping that everyone is doing well. 
> Best wishes to all.
> 
> James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net
> http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research & Support)
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???

[Kat]

Hi Wendy,

They do make a top-opening litter box:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B0002ZS20I/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=284507&s=kitchen

But maybe Pepper is objecting to the texture of the litter on her paws?
Have you tried using different litter - or even an empty litter box?

Also, if nothing else works, you could get some of the doggy "pee pads" to
put under the box - that way the urine gets absorbed by the pads & makes
clean-up much easier.

Good Luck!

Kat (Mew Jersey)


On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, wendy wrote:

> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:38:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: wendy 
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Kitty box with a lip to catch urine???
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> I haven't posted much?in the past few months.?Can hardly keep up with
> life offline, much less online.?I hope all of you are doing well, as
> well as your furbabies.
> 
> I have an 'engineering' question for you guys. I have a healthy kitty,
> Pepper, who keeps backing up to the litter box opening and peeing, and
> of course it goes outside the box, and then urine pools underneath the
> box (I even use a Christmas tree tray under the box to catch the
> urine, but still it gets quite ripe after a couple of days).?She's
> been doing this for years and I just keep cleaning it up. But as all
> of you probably can identify, I hate the smell and the clean-up, and
> was wondering if any of you have a similar sitation with any of your
> cats and how you deal with it??I've tried different kitty boxes, but
> as long as they have an opening, the pee is going in that
> direction.?There's got to be an easier way to deal with this.?I was
> thinking maybe I could make some kind of lip on the opening edge to
> direct the pee to a receptacleAny ideas out there?
> 
> Thanks! :) Wendy ?

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To Belinda (was: Looking for 2 Good Vets near Fort Worth, TX.

[Kat]

Hi Belinda,

I just checked out the vet listing for NJ on your site
www.adopt.bemikitties.com
And it looks like a) it's in Long beach California,
b) it's listed as a dog vet and c) I don't think the
800 numbers are valid/correct
Could you remove this listing??
Thanks,
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, TenHouseCats wrote:

> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:42:31 -0400
> From: TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Looking for 2 Good Vets near Fort Worth, TX.
>
> don't forget to check the www.adopt.bemikitties.com page for
> special-needs vets--and to list yours if you haven't already!
>
> MC, the secretary!
>
> On 9/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Joan that is my neck of the woods.
> > There is a low cost vet in arlington a very nice man and his wife. they are
> > from Africa and are in the business for the animals not the money
> > Sams All Pets
> > Dr Siagi
> > 817-801-7645
> > My other vet is real nice and has great hours
> > Alamo Pet Clinic
> > 817-303-7700
> > Please tell your friend to contact me if she has anything special
> > needsthen I can refer her according to the illness
> > see our available orphans at:
> > http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html
> > Karen 817-453-2969
>
>
> --
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> Maybe That'll Make The Difference
>
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>
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>
>

Re: Need immediate thoughts for Satch and Beatrix

[Kat]

Oh Leslie,

How awful!!   It's good that your boyfriend
called 911.  In the mean time (since I know you're not going to be in any
shape to study)...
First - Notify any and all shelters and vets and animal control in your
area & let them know both your cats names, colors, sizes, sexes, and the
fact that they are microchipped.
Second - Get your boyfriend's dog out & go walking in the direction that
the car went and where your bookbag was found.  Let him guide you as you
walk - the kitties love him, so may be more apt to come out for him.
Third - put up posters everywhere with pictures and a contact number (you
can do this while you're out walking with your boyfriend's dog)
Fourth - contact your local paper & TV station, see if they can help get
pictures out - the more people looking, the better

Please keep us posted!!
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Leslie wrote:

> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:06:36 -0700
> From: Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Need immediate thoughts for Satch and Beatrix
>
> Please bear with me here in writing this, I didn't know how hard it would be
> to put into words.
>
> I spend my weekends at my boyfriend's house and take the cats with me (they
> love him and his dog, and I don't like leaving them).  Monday mornings I
> pack everything up including the cats, go back in to say goodbye to Ed, and
> then drive the 20 minutes home.
>
> This morning I loaded in my groceries, my school books, the cats, go back in
> kiss Ed goodbye, grab my breakfast in a tupperware from the fridge and go
> back outside to find someone in my car backing it out of the driveway.  The
> doors were unlocked, but there was no key inside it, so they must have
> hotwired it.  I ran at the car backing up, yelling, "hey" and "get out" and
> banging on the windshield, I in fact, smashed the tupperware against it,
> having no other weapons (eggs went everywhere), but they kept going.  I
> yelled that there are cats in there, but they didn't stop.  Ed heard me
> yelling and by the time I got back inside, he was on the phone with 911.
>
> As indoor cats they don't wear collars, though both are microchipped.  They
> ride well in the car as long as they're loose, so they were loose.  I don't
> know which is more likely, them to get thrown out, or to be kept in.  Satch
> is probably talking the thief's ear off because he didn't get fed before we
> left.  I am so scared that they'll have been thrown out.  Satch is a big
> guy, was found on the streets, he can handle what is likely to present
> itself to him, but the kittenoh you guys, I'm so scared.
>
> I would have thought they'd be a theft deterrant.
>
> He threw my book bag out the window across from a nearby park, I have no
> idea why that item of all that he could have (my overnight bag, grocery
> bags, etc), and figure that it's God's way of saying that even through this
> stress I still have to study.  ha.  Ironically the 20 lb biology book was
> probably the most valuable item in the car, not that its street value would
> amount to much.
>
> Naturally, I've spent the morning searching that area to see if the cats
> might have been tossed there, too, but haven't found anything.  Satch knows
> his name and comes to it, so I hope that they at least stay together.
>
> Pray that the police call ( I have Ed's cell phone, mine was in the car, but
> maybe they'll be able to use it's tracking device to locate it ), and pray
> that they have good news.  Picture Satch and Beatrix oblivious to my
> concerns and sleeping on the back seat, or hanging out on a nice porch
> waiting for me to find them.  Pray that they not be stressed, but get back
> to me after a harmless adventure on their end.  please pray that I see them
> again and that they are unharmed.
>
> Thank you all so much,
> Leslie
>

Re:Cat Jacking & the Power of positive thoughts today!

[Kat]

Leslie,

I am sending a check to you in Portland.

I am also visualizing the cat jacker's significant other having a bigger
cat-loving heart who will help Satchmo and Beatrix escape so they can be
found. And I see them being protected by Archangel Michael and St.Francis
of Assisi until they are re-united with you.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

> > http://educate-yourself.org/ww/oct2006cosmictriggerevent25sep06.shtml
>

Re: HAPPYHAPPYJOYJOY!!!!

[Kat]

WOOHOO!!!  I'm so happy I'm crying!!
  _
 .-. ( \
(^.^) ) ))
_) (,' /
  ,'  /
(( (\(   <--- me doing my happy dance!!
  \_)\\
  )))
 /  , /
   ((  ( (
 ) ;) ;
(_/(_/

This list is just AWESOME!

Kat (Mew Jersey)

RE: Max Please add to the CLS :(

[Kat]

Sherry,

My thoughts are with you and your boyfriend.  Sending you gentle hugs for
all the love you've shared with these special kitties. You are truly an
Angel in human form.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

---
On 10/18/06, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am sorry to put this in the middle of all the good news.But out sweet
little Max left us today.He was my boyfriends favorite little boy.I have
yet to tell him.Thanks for the prayers.

Sherry

Re: What I learned

[Kat]

Hi Leslie,

You can (sort of) microchip your car - it's called LoJack.
http://www.lojack.com/
And even tho I have a cut-off switch on my car, I also have the LoJack
installed.  If the car ever gets stolen, you call the cops with your
personal "ID" (which should be kept in a safe place in your house).  The
cops then activate the small radio frequency transceiver hidden in the car
and have their own equipment to "listen" for your car.

I'm s glad both of your kitties are back with you, and I hope your
midterms go well too.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Leslie wrote:

> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:52:01 -0700
> From: Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: What I learned
>
> I just wanted to share this with you, looking back on the things that I
> will/won't do differently in the future.
>
> 1.  Microchip everything.  I should microchip the car.  Even with the slight
> snag with Satch's chip, I feel that they would have sorted it out and gotten
> him to me.
>
> 2.  Put a bumper sticker on your car.  I hate bumper stickers, but putting
> out a notice on a nondescript white car - which matches the description of
> 90% of cars out there, it seems, I'm going to put a pink one on there from a
> CD store back home.  License plates numbers are hard to remember and easy to
> remove - bumper stickers aren't.
>
> 3.  Collars.  I don't think that having the cats in a carrier would have
> been better - in fact maybe worse, because they wouldn't be able to leave
> the car, but even as indoor cats, I see how collars are a good idea.
>
> 4.  Cut off switch in the car.  Who would want this car?  I felt, and still
> feel to some extent, but whether or not I know the answer to that is not the
> point.  I don't know who and I don't know why, I just know that they did and
> if there's a simple fix to prevent it from happening again, even if it
> probably won't ever in my lifetime, I am going to take it in order to feel
> safer.
>
> 5.  Be a member of this list for life.  Give back, be open, because you will
> probably never meet such a wonderful and supportive group of people your
> entire life.
>
> Stay safe you all, I'm off to stiller waters - though I know that my
> tv-viewing public will be so sad by that.  :)
>
> Leslie
>

Re: Add my Mishka to the CLS

[Kat]

Gloria,

I'm so sorry Mishka's time with you was so short.
Gentle hugs for all you do.

Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Gloria Lane wrote:

> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:57:41 -0500
> From: Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Add my Mishka to the CLS
>
> My Mishka died yesterday (Sunday Oct 22). She was such a pretty
> little black and white kitty.  She was abandoned at PetCo by someone,
> and accepted into our rescue.  I could see that she was going down
> hill, and brought her to my house, hoping to make a difference and
> help her pull thru.   I had great plans for her.
>
> Took her to the vet for the last two weeks.  She'd tested negative on
> the Elisa.   When she had a CBC blood test, it showed a low white
> count, low red count, low platelets - her bone marrow wasn't putting
> out any platelets.  Don't know why, but some kind of cancer's a
> possibility, we just don't know.
>
> She was just as sweet as could be, slightly long black and white fur,
> with cute little ringlets coming out her ears and paws.  She had
> wonderful, gentle personality - could have been somebody's love-bug
> for a long time, but guess it wasn't to be.  She was my love-bug for
> a short time.  She was about a year old.  What a beautiful angel!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gloria
>
>
>

Re: Alex Please add to CLS

[Kat]

Dear Sherry,

I'm so sorry Alex crossed over. I will light a candle for him.
You are in my prayers too.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Sherry DeHaan wrote:

> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:44:17 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: Felvtalk 
> Subject: Alex Please add to CLS
>
> Alex was a sweet white guy that came to us the same day with my Xander.hE was 
> pretty laid back.I have some cute pics of him that I will put into a photo 
> album of all the Sids angels.
>   He passed away 10-18
>   thank you
>
>
> -
> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.  Great rates 
> starting at 1?/min.

Re: Prayers for Lucy

[Kat]

Hi Michelle,

How is Lucy doing today?

Kat (Mew Jersey)

Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!

[Kat]

Hideyo,

I am sending you & Dharma healing positive white light.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:32:07 -0600
> From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
>
> Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to
> my Dharma who is trying to over come what's call fatal disease FIP ..
> She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and
> noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale
> - I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but
> I don't want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem
> that she has..
>
> Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is
> surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that
> she can bounce back all the negative energy from her - this really has
> worked for her - Dharma is a tiny  beautiful calico girl with three feet
> - pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot
> lose her!
>
>
>
> Hideyo
>
>

RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!

[Kat]

Hi Hideyo,

Athena and Artemis are doing great.  They are about 1 1/2 years old now
and you'd swear Athena can see just as well as her sister - she gets into
just as much mischief as Artemis does.  They are so cute.  I haven't mixed
them with the rest of the household, so they get to hang out in my study
and sun themselves in the south facing window while I'm at work.  My
digital camera gave up the ghost last year and I'm leaving hints with my
boyfriend for a new one this Christmas (so I can update their pics!)

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:30:56 -0600
> From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
>
> Thank you, Kat!
>
>
> How Are the two babies (blind baby) by the way?
>

Re: o/t ideas please for my ex-foster cat

[Kat]

Kerry,

It's so hard when they get off to a wrong start...
Basically, you have to go back to square one and start all over.
Keeping them in seperate rooms, swapping their bedding each day,
swapping their rooms every 4-5 days, using cooking vanilla dabbed
on each one (both the head and the tail) to make them smell the same,
and using the appropriate flower essences in each one's water (in
addition to continuing with the Feliway). But this will take time.
Do you think "Molly" will be open to this or does she think it's too
late to start over?

Here's hoping she's willing to give it another try.
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:12:43 -0500
> From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: o/t ideas please for my ex-foster cat
>
> Hi all
> I just got an email from the adopter ("Molly")of my former foster cat
> ("Katya"). Molly emailed the shelter and copied me in part (see
> below--I've changed all names to protect privacy!). It seems she's about
> to give up Katya because of the effect it's having on her own cat,
> "Amber". Molly, I believe, is a good person, and I'm frantically casting
> around for ideas to fix the situation. I would foster Katya again in a
> heartbeat,and have already let the shelter know this, but it would be
> better if we cd resolve the situation. I'm scheduled to speak to Molly
> tonight on the phone. I thought if I could give her some hope, maybe
> that would encourage her to keep trying. I already encouraged her a
> couple of weeks ago to buy Feliway diffusers. I believe she's done this.
> All ideas gratefully received.
> Kerry
>
> >>>Amber and Katya's relationship isn't getting any better.   I
> basically didn't see Amber for two days.  She didn't come out from
> underneath the bed except to eat and use the litter box.   Now she
> sleeps on the bathroom rug and not in my room because Katya is in there.
> I put up the gate keep Katya in the living room to allow Amber time to
> roam a bit, but she doesn't.  I'll put her in the kitchen and she'll see
> Katya and immediately either run back into the bathroom or underneath
> the bed.  It breaks my heart to see Amber like this and I miss my cat.
> I'm sad on so many levels.  I don't think I can keep Katya... I just
> don't know what to do anymore.   Kerry, I'll definitely give you a call
> tonight.  Right now, I just keep crying.  I'm so heartbroken, but I
> don't know what else to do. <<<<
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RE: o/t ideas please for my ex-foster cat

[Kat]

Kerry,
Oregon Grape Flower Essence
There is a small overview pertaining to cats at
http://www.holisticat.com/fes.html
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:30:39 -0500
> From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: RE: o/t ideas please for my ex-foster cat
>
> Thanks so much Nina & Kat. You're gems. Have passed on these great
> ideas, and will be speaking to her tonight. Fingers crossed.
> (Nina, what's grape fe?)
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:12 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: o/t ideas please for my ex-foster cat
>
>
> All really good ideas.  I forgot to mention that Matilda gets RR and
> Oregon grape fe in her water.
> Nina
>
> Kat wrote:
>
>   Kerry,
>
>   It's so hard when they get off to a wrong start...
>   Basically, you have to go back to square one and start all over.
>   Keeping them in seperate rooms, swapping their bedding each day,
>   swapping their rooms every 4-5 days, using cooking vanilla
> dabbed
>   on each one (both the head and the tail) to make them smell the
> same,
>   and using the appropriate flower essences in each one's water
> (in
>   addition to continuing with the Feliway). But this will take
> time.
>   Do you think "Molly" will be open to this or does she think it's
> too
>   late to start over?
>
>   Here's hoping she's willing to give it another try.
>   Kat (Mew Jersey)
>
>   On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:
>
>
>
>   Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:12:43 -0500
>   From: "MacKenzie, Kerry N."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>   Subject: o/t ideas please for my ex-foster cat
>
>   Hi all
>   I just got an email from the adopter ("Molly")of my
> former foster cat
>   ("Katya"). Molly emailed the shelter and copied me in
> part (see
>   below--I've changed all names to protect privacy!). It
> seems she's about
>   to give up Katya because of the effect it's having on
> her own cat,
>   "Amber". Molly, I believe, is a good person, and I'm
> frantically casting
>   around for ideas to fix the situation. I would foster
> Katya again in a
>   heartbeat,and have already let the shelter know this,
> but it would be
>   better if we cd resolve the situation. I'm scheduled to
> speak to Molly
>   tonight on the phone. I thought if I could give her some
> hope, maybe
>   that would encourage her to keep trying. I already
> encouraged her a
>   couple of weeks ago to buy Feliway diffusers. I believe
> she's done this.
>   All ideas gratefully received.
>   Kerry
>
>
>
>   Amber and Katya's relationship isn't
> getting any better.   I
>
>
>   basically didn't see Amber for two days.  She didn't
> come out from
>   underneath the bed except to eat and use the litter box.
> Now she
>   sleeps on the bathroom rug and not in my room because
> Katya is in there.
>   I put up the gate keep Katya in the living room to allow
> Amber time to
>   roam a bit, but she doesn't.  I'll put her in the
> kitchen and she'll see
>   Katya and immediately either run back into the bathroom
> or underneath
>   the bed.  It breaks my heart to see Amber like this and
> I miss my cat.
>   I'm sad on so many levels.  I don't think I can keep
> Katya... I just
>   don't know what to do anymore.   Kerry, I'll definitely
> give you a call
>   tonight.  Right now, I just keep crying.  I'm so
> heartbroken, but I
>   don't know what else to do. <<<<
>
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> to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer,
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> the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax
> law

Re: Acemannan availability

[Kat]

Elizabeth,

It almost sounds like a Monty Python skit in the making...

I applaud you for your perseverance and your patience - I
probably would have had a meltdown by now!!

Please keep on keeping-on, you're doing a wonderful thing
for all of us!

Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:54:02 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Acemannan availability
>
> I think my ear is purple from being on hold and I am quite dizzy from the 
> "run-around".
>
> That being said, I am still awaiting calls from the CEO of Carrington Labs 
> and from the FDA.  I contacted the USDA and talked to the main office, 
> USDA-Veterinary Services, USDA-APHIS (Animal and Plant Health Investigative 
> Services), USDA-Animal Care, and finally a member of the senior staff at 
> USDA-APHIS, Dr. Davis.  Dr. Davis was very helpful and he has worked in this 
> office for many years.  He tells me that injectible Acemannan falls outside 
> the jurisdiction of the USDA.  They handle vaccines - but no other veterinary 
> medicines.  He checked his resources and said that this drug was approved by 
> the FDA and that it would fall under their jurisdiction.
>
> I asked Dr. Davis if the USDA removed products from commerce while conducting 
> audits.  He told me that he has never heard of that happening in all his 
> years working for the USDA.
>
> After my conversation with Dr. Davis, I called Dr. Nicholson at Veterinary 
> Products Laboratories and told her what I had learned from the USDA.  I asked 
> her if they had documentation that informed them of the audit and if she 
> could check that for me and verify the initiator of the audit.  She told me 
> that this information was passed down to them from Carrington Labs.  I asked 
> Dr. Nicholson if she thought it would be helpful for me to write my 
> congressman.  She told me that a lot of people were doing that and it could 
> only help.
>
> Meanwhile, we wait to talk to the FDA and Carrington Labs (or rather, the 
> appropriate office for redirection of blame).
>
> Stay tuned for another episode in the continuing saga...
> Elizabeth
>
> *Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.*
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 1:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Acemannan availability
>
>
> Dr. Nicholson at Veterinary Laboratories returned my call a moment ago.  The 
> organization responsible for this audit is the USDA.  She gave me some 
> contact numbers there and I am going to do my very best to be professional 
> when I express to the USDA my displeasure with knowing that there are cats 
> whose lives may have depended on this product while they took their time 
> doing their audit.  Dr. Nicholson told me this one man who is in charge of 
> the veterinary division may not even know about this but I assured her that 
> he would after I spoke to him.
>
> The mixture used in the injectible Acemannan (pronounced like it sounds - 
> "Ace manan") is proprietary and so there is no generic and they have people 
> from over seas calling everyday trying to get the product.  Right now, it 
> simply isn't available.  Dr. Nicholson did not know why Acemannan Hydrogel is 
> not subjected to the audit when it contains the same raw ingredients.  There 
> is another lab right now that has an audit going on but the product being 
> audited is not currently withheld from commerce.  The USDA has some questions 
> to answer.
>
> Meanwhile, I asked Dr. Nicholson if there was a human equivalent to 
> Acemannan.  She told me that Manapol Plus (by Carrington Labs) is used for 
> people.  It is taken orally rather than as an injection.  She was not sure if 
> this product had been studied for use in cats but she thought it may have 
> been.
>
> I asked her if the USDA had given any indication of how long this audit would 
> last - and she told me that the last she heard, they hoped to be through in 
> November.
>
> What I want to know is what gives the USDA the right to remove a proprietary 
> product from the market that has been proven to save cat's lives?  Even if 
> lives weren't at stake - what gives them the right to shut down this 
> company's bottom line?  What if this were the only product they made?  This 
> goes against everything our system stands for and I refuse to sit passively 
> while this happens.  I'm wondering if I need to write my congressman.
>
>
> Kiss the kitties for me,
> elizabeth
>
> *Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.*
>
>
> -Origin

Re: To Kat: Oregon Grape...

[Kat]

Hi Ioana,



Oregon Grape (Mahonia nervosa) --
I have heard of some cases of aggression being helped by this.  It is
useful for fears as a result of being paranoid or having some mistrust of
others. It may enable your animal to again begin to trust and feel more
comfortable with others. Releases the habit of valuing yourself
in relationship to others. Encourages knowing your true vital unique
nature. Looking outside to others, instead of valuing yourself for who you
uniquely are. Giving away your power to others. Codependence. This may
encourage the physical body to hold onto toxins that lead to liver,
gallbladder, skin or eyes diseases. For social paranoia, misunderstanding
of the behavior of others, the imagining or expectation of hostility from
others; promotes trust and the expectation of good will.

If you google it you should come up with quite a few sites.

I like Green Hope Farms, but they may not have this particular flower
essence, I haven't looked in a while.

Kat (Me wJersey)

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Ioana-Dina Rican wrote:

> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:32:14 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ioana-Dina Rican <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: To Kat: Oregon Grape...
>
> What is this Oregon Grape Flower Essence good for?  Where it can be purchased 
> from?
>   Ioana
>
> Kat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Kerry,
> Oregon Grape Flower Essence
> There is a small overview pertaining to cats at
> http://www.holisticat.com/fes.html
> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>
>
>
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