[Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
Hello flashcoders, I haven't upgrade to Flash 8 so far. Of course I'll do it soon ;-). But I have already read some of the manuals (AS reference, components etc) New features are great, definitely worth buying/using/migrating. The only question is when? Example: My product, Dynamic Blend v.2 Flash MX 2004 component, uses Color class (Flash 5-7). Have a look: http://www.gousable.com/flash/dynBlend.html Now in Flash 8 Color class became deprecated (in favor of the flash.geom.ColorTransform class). No doubt flash.geom.ColorTransform class is better, but it's flash8-only. Most other deprecated functions are from Flash 4, so I think Color class will be supported until version 10 (or even 12 ;-). On the other hand, during the last year approx. 80% of my clients require compatibility with Flash Player 6, and approx 30% - with Flash Player 5! If possible, I don't want to force user to install something... I'd like to hear your opinion regarding this. -- Best regards, Gregory mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://GOusable.com Flash components development. Usability services. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] cancel loading process
I seem to recall someone on this list suggesting that if you call loadMovie(null) on an already loading clip, it actually cancels the load. Of course, I may have been dreaming... I haven't actually tried it! HTH, Ian ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] LoaderClass in Flash 8
Hi there, I've checked Brian's port. It seems interesting because of some additions. But you should be aware that's it is just an inclusion of the methods without private/public modifiers. I'll manage to add this once I get time. That way you'll get these modifiers plus Brian's add. Checked Bryan Ledford's site, there was an update this month: 2005/10/4 http://www.bryanledford.com/download/LoaderClass2.0.zip Bryan Ledford rewrote this class for AS 2. http://www.v-i-a.net/download/?LoaderQueue http://www.v-i-a.net/download/?LoaderQueue_doc The above urls are still valid. BTW, I was thinking that I should rethink the whole implementation. In fact, MovieClipLoader has a new onLoadError event and manage 404 HTTP headers. As it'll glue the use with flash8, it could be interesting though. To finish, we could imagine an implemenation using a Strategy pattern to switch between the way to behave in regard of the flash version. But my question is : Do a queue loader class need worth it ? Tell me. Cheers. --- erixtekila http://blog.v-i-a.net/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re[2]: [Flashcoders] LoaderClass in Flash 8
Hello Barrett. B http://www.bryanledford.com/download/LoaderClass2.0.zip Thanks for this link. Fixed bug with interval id. If I have correctly understood, now it is possible to use the own broadcaster for events of LoaderClass (AsBroadcaster by default). -- Best regards, Igormailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Shared Library updates
Hi people. Has Shared Library gotten any updates in flash7/flash8? I am trying to find documentation and articles, but it seems like shared libraries are much of headache that you have to find out yourself. What I have noticed is that my FontLoader that loads shared libraries does have different limitation in regard whether I use flash6 or 7/8. Not a big thing at all, but still not so very nicely though. / martin ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Local machine data manipulation
Thanks for the comments Jesse. One question on Director though (before going waaay OT), is it possible to perform local file write operations while still in the browser, or do these have to be projector files, i.e. standalone executables? Thanks, Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: 27 October 2005 00:08 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Local machine data manipulation Flash cannot write to the local file system; it can read. To write, you'll need a 3rd party projector (mProjector, SWFStudio, Zinc, Screenweaver [open source]), or Macromedia Director. - Original Message - From: Nick Weekes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:55 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] Local machine data manipulation Hi all, Im trying to get my head around the capabilities of Flash/Flex for the following simple scenario: 1) Load a text file (csv/txt etc) from the local file system into a flash object 2) Convert this object into properly formatted xml 3) Save to local file system On PC this sort of thing is traditionally done using a windows application, but I would like to know how much of this I can achieve in a flash environment. I have a .NET server/SQL server too, but Im hoping this can all be done client-side so I don't have to upload the data and then re-download it. Any thoughts/ideas appreciated. Cheers, Nick ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] a little OT (maybe): Flash in Firefox
I think that your server does not have php support. Check it with your hosting provider -- SalU2 f a r i d | s i l v a | a b o i d www.e-foco.com.ar ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] a little OT (maybe): Flash in Firefox
maybe this is obvious but you ARE running it through a webserver, right? not just opening the file from your harddrive... /andreas f a r i d|s i l v a|a b o i d wrote: I think that your server does not have php support. Check it with your hosting provider -- SalU2 f a r i d | s i l v a | a b o i d www.e-foco.com.ar ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] a little OT (maybe): Flash in Firefox
well, all solved: the hosting haven't enabled the php... now work fine. thanx_to_all Enrico Tomaselli + web designer + [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.metatad.it ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] GIS data and Flash
Does anyone know some good solutions for showing or reading in GIS data into a Flash movie? I heard that a company will announce a GIS webservice for Flex, though. Only I can't find any information on that. If anyone know some good solution, please let me now! Yours, Weyert de Boer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re[2]: [Flashcoders] LoaderClass in Flash 8
Hello erixtekila. e To finish, we could imagine an implemenation using a Strategy pattern e to switch between the way to behave in regard of the flash version. I think, it is good idea. e Do a queue loader class need worth it ? Personally I'm still targeting the Flash Player 6. And therefore in functionality of MovieClipLoader I don't need yet. -- Best regards, Igormailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] GIS data and Flash
Hi Weyert, You could take a look at the work Jan Bliki has done at www.bliki.com Several components/apps there for talking to GIS data from ESRI. Cheers, Tor Kristensen ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] GIS data and Flash
Your not talking about: http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/flash-player-85-alpha-and-gis/ its in flex 2! Cheers Campbell Does anyone know some good solutions for showing or reading in GIS data into a Flash movie? I heard that a company will announce a GIS webservice for Flex, though. Only I can't find any information on that. If anyone know some good solution, please let me now! Yours, Weyert de Boer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] GIS data and Flash
look at this: http://www.geoclip.fr/an/p241_galerie1.htm 2005/10/27, Weyert de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Campbell, Your not talking about: http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/flash-player-85-alpha-and-gis/ Thanks! I thought it was a Flex feature but looks like you need v8.5 for it. Not a good solution at the moment :( Yours, Weyert de Boer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] GIS data and Flash
That is a very nice application... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diego Guidi Sent: 27 October 2005 12:53 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] GIS data and Flash look at this: http://www.geoclip.fr/an/p241_galerie1.htm 2005/10/27, Weyert de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Campbell, Your not talking about: http://wahlers.com.br/claus/blog/flash-player-85-alpha-and-gis/ Thanks! I thought it was a Flex feature but looks like you need v8.5 for it. Not a good solution at the moment :( Yours, Weyert de Boer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Bidirectional languages in Flash
Hello, I need to include in my multilingual website Arabic content. Does anyone know how I could solve the bidirectional problems? Thanks for any help. seb. - Powered by Alinto (http://www.alinto.net) for Belgique.com (http://www.belgique.com) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Bidirectional languages in Flash
There are many sort of work arounds and it really depends what kind of text you have to display, but it usually doesn't work well. http://www.quasimondo.com/archives/000217.php On 10/27/05, Sebastian Loix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I need to include in my multilingual website Arabic content. Does anyone know how I could solve the bidirectional problems? Thanks for any help. seb. - Powered by Alinto (http://www.alinto.net) for Belgique.com http://Belgique.com (http://www.belgique.com) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Yotam Laufer - Senior Flash Developer mobile: +44.79.572.531.30 - The preceding e-mail message (including any attachments) contains information that may be confidential, may be protected by the attorney-client or other applicable privileges, or may constitute non-public information. It is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender by replying to this message and then delete all copies of it from your computer system. Any use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this message by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] removeEventListener not working?
Hi People. I am using the EventDispatcher, and it works well with dispatching events and all. But I cant remove them. This is the line in which I add a listener fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); this is the line to remove it, but it doesn't work: fntController.removeEventListener('onFinished', this) The fntController-instance is available, that I have traced out and so, so it might be a simple error in the removeEventListener, but I cant see it. / martin ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] removeEventListener not working?
I pasted in wrong line at the bottom, should be like this: // ADD fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); // REMOVE DOESN'T WORK fntController.removeEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); The problem is that I have used the Delegate in the addEventListener. If I skip the Delegate on both the add and remove, then it works. -but then I will have the wrong scope as well in the functions that gets called ;( So how do I remove a eventlistener when it has been added with a delegate? / martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Klasson Sent: den 27 oktober 2005 14:53 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] removeEventListener not working? Hi People. I am using the EventDispatcher, and it works well with dispatching events and all. But I cant remove them. This is the line in which I add a listener fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); this is the line to remove it, but it doesn't work: fntController.removeEventListener('onFinished', this) The fntController-instance is available, that I have traced out and so, so it might be a simple error in the removeEventListener, but I cant see it. / martin ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
When would you use Flash as opposed to Flex2.0 when developing a web-site Regards. -- Kenlie Browne Software Developer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
Flex is for rapid app development using existing components. Flash will be needed to create the components/GUI etc... So I would say that flash is to Flex as Photoshop/fireworks is to Dreamweaver... (but a lot more complex) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of knly browne Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:15 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex When would you use Flash as opposed to Flex2.0 when developing a web-site Regards. -- Kenlie Browne Software Developer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
I'd go ahead and upgrade now. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] removeEventListener not working?
You have to store a reference to the delegate to be able to remove it. A modification of a post by Till S: function clearListeners():Void { fntController.removeEventListener('onFinished', fdelegate); } var fdelegate = Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded); fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', fdelegate); cleanListeners(); Helen Martin Klasson wrote: I pasted in wrong line at the bottom, should be like this: // ADD fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); // REMOVE DOESN'T WORK fntController.removeEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); The problem is that I have used the Delegate in the addEventListener. If I skip the Delegate on both the add and remove, then it works. -but then I will have the wrong scope as well in the functions that gets called ;( So how do I remove a eventlistener when it has been added with a delegate? / martin ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] removeEventListener not working?
The trouble is that Delegate.create _creates a new Function object_ - so the Delegate object in your removeEventListener call is actually a different object from in your addEventListener call. To get around this, simply store the delegate - e.g.: var myDelegate:Function=Delegate.create(this,fontsLoaded); // ADD fntController.addEventListener('onFinished',myDelegate); // REMOVE fntController.removeEventListener('onFinished',myDelegate); On 10/27/05, Martin Klasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pasted in wrong line at the bottom, should be like this: // ADD fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); // REMOVE DOESN'T WORK fntController.removeEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); The problem is that I have used the Delegate in the addEventListener. If I skip the Delegate on both the add and remove, then it works. -but then I will have the wrong scope as well in the functions that gets called ;( So how do I remove a eventlistener when it has been added with a delegate? / martin ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] removeEventListener not working?
I just read about it on another site. Seems to be the only solution, to store it in a variable. -that is a little to bad really, but I guess I have to live with that. Thanks for your answers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helen Triolo Sent: den 27 oktober 2005 15:20 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] removeEventListener not working? You have to store a reference to the delegate to be able to remove it. A modification of a post by Till S: function clearListeners():Void { fntController.removeEventListener('onFinished', fdelegate); } var fdelegate = Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded); fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', fdelegate); cleanListeners(); Helen Martin Klasson wrote: I pasted in wrong line at the bottom, should be like this: // ADD fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); // REMOVE DOESN'T WORK fntController.removeEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); The problem is that I have used the Delegate in the addEventListener. If I skip the Delegate on both the add and remove, then it works. -but then I will have the wrong scope as well in the functions that gets called ;( So how do I remove a eventlistener when it has been added with a delegate? / martin ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Tweening broken in Flash 8
Hi - anyone able to suggest why a shape tween which was working fine in all Flash versions before is now broken when I bring the movie into Flash 8? I've now got a bunch of keyframes with empty frames in between. I've tried various things to get the data back - deleting the frames, deleting the data from the frames, etc - but nothing seems to work. Any suggestions? Thanks Danny ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] removeEventListener not working?
Perhaps? : var fontsLoaded_delegate:Function = Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded); fntController.addEventListener ('onFinished', fontsLoaded_delegate); fntController.removeEventListener ('onFinished', fontsLoaded_delegate); -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Klasson Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:09 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] removeEventListener not working? I pasted in wrong line at the bottom, should be like this: // ADD fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); // REMOVE DOESN'T WORK fntController.removeEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); The problem is that I have used the Delegate in the addEventListener. If I skip the Delegate on both the add and remove, then it works. -but then I will have the wrong scope as well in the functions that gets called ;( So how do I remove a eventlistener when it has been added with a delegate? / martin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Klasson Sent: den 27 oktober 2005 14:53 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] removeEventListener not working? Hi People. I am using the EventDispatcher, and it works well with dispatching events and all. But I cant remove them. This is the line in which I add a listener fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); this is the line to remove it, but it doesn't work: fntController.removeEventListener('onFinished', this) The fntController-instance is available, that I have traced out and so, so it might be a simple error in the removeEventListener, but I cant see it. / martin ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Job Offer :: employee search
The positions we have open are for experienced flash developers and software engineers. These are on-site positions. What we are looking for is a: Flash Developer / Software Engineer Required Skills: Computer Science Degree or appropriate experience OOP Desired Skills: Actionscript 2.0 Server side scripting languages (ASP.NET, PHP, ASP, CF, etc.) Flash Remoting ASP.NET Flash Remoting AMFPHP SQL Server, mySQL XML C# Flex Javascript RegExp Fluent in English When contacting us please include resume and portfolio (with links). You need to be able to work on-site in Cedar Falls, Iowa. Pay scale is based on portfolio and experience from $33k to $60k. Please email me for further details. Best Regards, Judah Frangipane ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
That makes sense Robert. In the same line of thinking, as the Flex stuff evolves, I see the Flash IDE turning into a sort of Photoshop for Flash where graphical assets are designed/maintained, and FlexBuilder 2 (eclipse) becoming the programming environment. So FlexBuilder 2 will be for development, period, rapid or otherwise, and Flash or the Flash IDE will be a designer's tool. Both sit on top of the Flash Platform and are the foundation for implementing the technology. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] cancel loading process
In flash, you can cancel/delete but the browser will still do the download unfortunately On 10/27/05, Ian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to recall someone on this list suggesting that if you call loadMovie(null) on an already loading clip, it actually cancels the load. Of course, I may have been dreaming... I haven't actually tried it! HTH, Ian ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
So I would say that flash is to Flex as Photoshop/fireworks is to Dreamweaver... (but a lot more complex I don't think that analogy really works. Having run through a Flex project recently (though I still have a lot to learn in Flex), I actually think Flash is more complex than Flexbuilder when you look at the overall product. That does NOT mean the Flash 8 IDE is necessarily more powerful - Flexbuilder 2 uses Actionscript 3 and can create Movie Clips from code etc. as well as build Web forms and reports - Flexbuilder 2 is extremely powerful, but in my opinion, somewhat easier to code in with mxml - kinda the whole point of mxml. Plus, Photoshop produces graphics. Dreamweaver assembles sites with graphics, code, text, web services, etc. Two different products. Both Flash and import Flex the same types of media and both produce .swf files in the end. Anyway... Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Entrepreneur seeks tech partner for startup
[Note: I'll consider contract work if I can't find the ideal partner. Of course, if you do well in a contract role, I'm gonna twist your arm to make it permanent...] The Opportunity -- - To create a new web medium of Video Markup - Technologies: - client: Flash (FLV, Flash Player); HTML; Javascript - server: PHP/MySQL/Unix (preferred, but not mandatory); Flash Media Server - Status: Version 1 is spec'ed, ready for development, biz plan in process You - - A superstar programmer / architect / engineering manager - Passionate about video on the web - Deep experience working w/ Flash and Web applications - Flash client design/implementation - Server side design/implementation (PHP/Java/Perl/Ruby/etc. to SQL database) - Design skills a plus (but not mandatory) - Extremely honest with highest level of integrity - Hard working, extremely smart and responsible - Great at delivering web-based products and operating them - Whatever it takes attitude (rather than it's not my job attitude) - Ready to dive into a great startup opportunity - Great network of technical people to hire - Fun to work with (life's too short to work with assholes or dweebs...) Me (Mike Lanza) -- - Experienced, successful entrepreneur (4 startups, batting .500 w/ one home run and one single, currently on a 2-hit streak) - Most recent startups in online finance - Producer of family documentary videos - A business guy, but one who loves to dive into technology - Stanford MBA ('90) - Great at strategy, relationships, sales - Whatever it takes attitude (rather than it's not my job attitude) - San Francisco-based, but *very* open to locating in Palo Alto - Extremely honest with high level of integrity - Hard-working, smart (?), responsible - Ready to dive in - Great network of people to hire - Fun to work with Compensation: stock for a partner, $$$ for contract work If you're interested, please send me an email. Thanks! - Mike Lanza [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.lanza.net 415-641-1985 - ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] what is the major documentation-style used for within as2?
It looks like there is plenty of alternatives on how to write documentation. Javadoc, js-doc, asDoc, naturaldocs Which is the best one to use? http://www.as2doc.com that is a site which gives me the gd feelings, since it also contains how-to's and walk-troughs. What do you have to say? / martin ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Extending WebService Class
I'm trying to create a class that extends the WebService Class: class CentralService extends mx.services.WebService { } Everytime I try to instantiate the class like such: var cs:CentralService = new CentralService(); I get the following error: Error opening URL file:///C|/flash/undefined Any suggestion on what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Doug Coning Software Developer FORUM Solutions, LLC This e-mail and any attachment(s) are intended for the specified recipient(s) only and are legally protected. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to sender's e-mail address with notification of the error and then destroy this message in all electronic and physical forms. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] am i approaching this problem correctly?
hi. i want to ask people's opinions about an issue and see if my solution is on target. i have a navigation.swf that sits in a frame on an html page. on click of nav button, a getURL loads another swf into the frame below. ugly, i know. but i don't have the option to recode the piece at this point. what i need to do is track inactivity. if there's been no action for 90 seconds (in both swf files), i'm going to getURL() and send them to a screensaver page. i have code that tracks inactivity without a problem but i'm assuming i'll need to compare it to see if there's been inactivity in both the navigation.swf and the swf currently being viewed. if both have been inactive for 90 seconds, then getURL. so i'm going to need to use local connection. am i thinking about this correctly so far or is there a more elegant solution? here's my code so far. // FOR NAVIGATION.SWF * * // init var intervalID; var status:String = active; var timeOut = 1; // local connection var navigation_lc:LocalConnection = new LocalConnection(); navigation_lc.connect( navigation_lc ); navigation_lc.loadScreensaver = function( obj:String ) { if( status == inactive obj == inactive ) { trace( load the screensaver ); } else { // what do we do? } }; // callTimeOut() function callTimeOut () { clearInterval( intervalID ); status = inactive; } mouseListener = new Object(); mouseListener.onMouseMove = function() { clearInterval( intervalID ); intervalID = setInterval( _root, callTimeOut, timeOut ); }; Mouse.addListener( mouseListener ); // FOR MAIN.SWF ** * // init var intervalID; var timeOut = 1; // local connection var main_lc:LocalConnection = new LocalConnection(); main_lc.connect( main_lc ); // callTimeOut() function callTimeOut () { main_lc.send( navigation_lc, loadScreensaver, inactive ); } mouseListener = new Object(); mouseListener.onMouseMove = function() { clearInterval( intervalID ); intervalID = setInterval( _root, callTimeOut, timeOut ); }; Mouse.addListener( mouseListener ); thanks in advance for any helpful tips and suggestions. -- matt. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] what is the major documentation-style used for within as2?
Ron Wheeler wrote: I would stick with Javadoc and Doxygen since this has the backing of the Java community as well and is going to be supported at a better level that an Actionscript only scheme. Normally I use the Javadoc convention in everywhere language which support multi-line comments. :-) Looking down the road a bit, it also can be extended to include automatic code generation when asdt and UML modelling come together under Eclipse. Always nice to have ;-) Yours, Weyert de Boer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
On Oct 27, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Mike Britton wrote: That makes sense Robert. In the same line of thinking, as the Flex stuff evolves, I see the Flash IDE turning into a sort of Photoshop for Flash where graphical assets are designed/maintained, and FlexBuilder 2 (eclipse) becoming the programming environment. I don't think that's likely to happen at all. I suspect a vast majority of users will continue to use the IDE. This is just a prediction on my part: the number of people who use the IDE or a combination of the IDE and a text editor will probably outnumber the FlexBuilder/Eclipse platform users 3:1, or even much more (10:1?). So FlexBuilder 2 will be for development, period, rapid or otherwise, and Flash or the Flash IDE will be a designer's tool. Both sit on top of the Flash Platform and are the foundation for implementing the technology. Still doubt that a lot. FlexBuilder 2 will probably used for development of _enterprise_applications_. I don't think Macromedia will be able to push it's use too much further outside those limits. Don't get me wrong, I love the metaphor and what it could possibly do for my Flash development. But, the random project that comes along which could benefit from that environment doesn't nearly justify the resources and time I'd need to devote to really knowing the platform. In the Flash community, we've got designers, designer/developers (design with some programming) and serious developers (strictly programming). I'd say the former two in that list far outnumber the latter. Jon ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Local machine data manipulation
I guessed that was the case. The only browser alternative then is to build a .NET control and host in an aspx page (messy as each client needs the .net framework runtime) but that should be quite common amongst the users I will be dealing with. Thanks for the pointers... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: 27 October 2005 16:55 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Local machine data manipulation Director can utilize setPref/getPref; a browser safe way of reading and writing to text files. However, you have no control over where these text files are, and cannot easily get to them (buried in some weird documents and settings area). In all cases, you must be in an exe (Director, mProjector, etc.), no browser. - Original Message - From: Nick Weekes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:45 AM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Local machine data manipulation Thanks for the comments Jesse. One question on Director though (before going waaay OT), is it possible to perform local file write operations while still in the browser, or do these have to be projector files, i.e. standalone executables? Thanks, Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: 27 October 2005 00:08 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Local machine data manipulation Flash cannot write to the local file system; it can read. To write, you'll need a 3rd party projector (mProjector, SWFStudio, Zinc, Screenweaver [open source]), or Macromedia Director. - Original Message - From: Nick Weekes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:55 PM Subject: [Flashcoders] Local machine data manipulation Hi all, Im trying to get my head around the capabilities of Flash/Flex for the following simple scenario: 1) Load a text file (csv/txt etc) from the local file system into a flash object 2) Convert this object into properly formatted xml 3) Save to local file system On PC this sort of thing is traditionally done using a windows application, but I would like to know how much of this I can achieve in a flash environment. I have a .NET server/SQL server too, but Im hoping this can all be done client-side so I don't have to upload the data and then re-download it. Any thoughts/ideas appreciated. Cheers, Nick ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Drawing/painting applicatin examples ...
http://www.bit-101.com/sketch3d/ http://www.senocular.com/pub/flash/8/index.php?f=eraseandredraw - Original Message - From: Pete Hotchkiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:48 AM Subject: [Flashcoders] Drawing/painting applicatin examples ... I'm looking for some good examples of drawing/painting examples executed in flash. I've seen a number of basic ones that allow me to sketch a line drawing, but I'm looking for more extensive functionality, such as fill color, and the ability to select and move elements of a drawing around the canvas. Anyone know of some good examples ? Thanks in advance Pete ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
FWIW, Quite a few people I know have studiously avoided Flash development for no other reason than that they have found it a very frustrating experience. That was mostly down to a combination of the development experience when using the Flash authoring tool and the fact that ActionScript programming can sometimes seem like a bit of a black art if you come to it from other languages. Using MTASC instead of Flash authoring improved this a bit, but with the increased power and expressiveness of ActionScript 3, they are now starting to see Flash as a real option for business app development. When compared to the size of the existing flash development community, I'm not sure how big that group is, from what I've seen it could be quite significant. Spike On 10/27/05, Jon Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Mike Britton wrote: That makes sense Robert. In the same line of thinking, as the Flex stuff evolves, I see the Flash IDE turning into a sort of Photoshop for Flash where graphical assets are designed/maintained, and FlexBuilder 2 (eclipse) becoming the programming environment. I don't think that's likely to happen at all. I suspect a vast majority of users will continue to use the IDE. This is just a prediction on my part: the number of people who use the IDE or a combination of the IDE and a text editor will probably outnumber the FlexBuilder/Eclipse platform users 3:1, or even much more (10:1?). So FlexBuilder 2 will be for development, period, rapid or otherwise, and Flash or the Flash IDE will be a designer's tool. Both sit on top of the Flash Platform and are the foundation for implementing the technology. Still doubt that a lot. FlexBuilder 2 will probably used for development of _enterprise_applications_. I don't think Macromedia will be able to push it's use too much further outside those limits. Don't get me wrong, I love the metaphor and what it could possibly do for my Flash development. But, the random project that comes along which could benefit from that environment doesn't nearly justify the resources and time I'd need to devote to really knowing the platform. In the Flash community, we've got designers, designer/developers (design with some programming) and serious developers (strictly programming). I'd say the former two in that list far outnumber the latter. Jon ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Stephen Milligan Do you do the Badger? http://www.yellowbadger.com Do you cfeclipse? http://www.cfeclipse.org ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
Personally I have never been tempted to work in Eclipse - I like the IDE and work well in it.. but I have to admit FlexBuilder2 is tempting me a bit. In most of my projects these days there is no need for an FLA, so I will definitely be learning Flex enough to at least make an educated decision between the two environments... or to use both On Oct 27, 2005, at 11:55 AM, Jon Bradley wrote: On Oct 27, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Mike Britton wrote: That makes sense Robert. In the same line of thinking, as the Flex stuff evolves, I see the Flash IDE turning into a sort of Photoshop for Flash where graphical assets are designed/maintained, and FlexBuilder 2 (eclipse) becoming the programming environment. I don't think that's likely to happen at all. I suspect a vast majority of users will continue to use the IDE. This is just a prediction on my part: the number of people who use the IDE or a combination of the IDE and a text editor will probably outnumber the FlexBuilder/Eclipse platform users 3:1, or even much more (10:1?). So FlexBuilder 2 will be for development, period, rapid or otherwise, and Flash or the Flash IDE will be a designer's tool. Both sit on top of the Flash Platform and are the foundation for implementing the technology. Still doubt that a lot. FlexBuilder 2 will probably used for development of _enterprise_applications_. I don't think Macromedia will be able to push it's use too much further outside those limits. Don't get me wrong, I love the metaphor and what it could possibly do for my Flash development. But, the random project that comes along which could benefit from that environment doesn't nearly justify the resources and time I'd need to devote to really knowing the platform. In the Flash community, we've got designers, designer/developers (design with some programming) and serious developers (strictly programming). I'd say the former two in that list far outnumber the latter. Jon ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
It's probably worth pointing out that you can create an ActionScript 3 project in Flex Builder that never goes anywhere near the Flex Framework. I have quite a few of those on my machine for a number of things that I would previously done in the Flash authoring tool. I have spent a good portion of the last 2 years writing plugins for Eclipse though, so it is a pretty natural way for me to work. Spike On 10/27/05, Michael Bedar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I have never been tempted to work in Eclipse - I like the IDE and work well in it.. but I have to admit FlexBuilder2 is tempting me a bit. In most of my projects these days there is no need for an FLA, so I will definitely be learning Flex enough to at least make an educated decision between the two environments... or to use both On Oct 27, 2005, at 11:55 AM, Jon Bradley wrote: On Oct 27, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Mike Britton wrote: That makes sense Robert. In the same line of thinking, as the Flex stuff evolves, I see the Flash IDE turning into a sort of Photoshop for Flash where graphical assets are designed/maintained, and FlexBuilder 2 (eclipse) becoming the programming environment. I don't think that's likely to happen at all. I suspect a vast majority of users will continue to use the IDE. This is just a prediction on my part: the number of people who use the IDE or a combination of the IDE and a text editor will probably outnumber the FlexBuilder/Eclipse platform users 3:1, or even much more (10:1?). So FlexBuilder 2 will be for development, period, rapid or otherwise, and Flash or the Flash IDE will be a designer's tool. Both sit on top of the Flash Platform and are the foundation for implementing the technology. Still doubt that a lot. FlexBuilder 2 will probably used for development of _enterprise_applications_. I don't think Macromedia will be able to push it's use too much further outside those limits. Don't get me wrong, I love the metaphor and what it could possibly do for my Flash development. But, the random project that comes along which could benefit from that environment doesn't nearly justify the resources and time I'd need to devote to really knowing the platform. In the Flash community, we've got designers, designer/developers (design with some programming) and serious developers (strictly programming). I'd say the former two in that list far outnumber the latter. Jon ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Stephen Milligan Do you do the Badger? http://www.yellowbadger.com Do you cfeclipse? http://www.cfeclipse.org ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
you can create an ActionScript 3 project in Flex Builder that never goes anywhere near the Flex Framework. That's the reason I was soothsaying about FlexBuilder 2 becoming the defacto development environment and the Flash IDE evolving into a tool for design. Eclipse will eclipse the Flash IDE (rim shot). I have spent a good portion of the last 2 years writing plugins for Eclipse I wonder if one could be written to manage the Library. Then I'd never have to open the Flash IDE. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
Admittingly, something needs to be done. Hopefully either Blaze (Flash 9) can be made to have integration extensions with FlexBuilder2, made to be basically a glorified library asset manager, or somethihng. The current alternatives really suck. A Singleton classe that holds all linkageID's, an images folder that contains both production graphics and source graphics... while I love having all of this open and accessible instead of buried deep in a binary FLA, at least Flash was damn good at managing it. - Original Message - From: Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex you can create an ActionScript 3 project in Flex Builder that never goes anywhere near the Flex Framework. That's the reason I was soothsaying about FlexBuilder 2 becoming the defacto development environment and the Flash IDE evolving into a tool for design. Eclipse will eclipse the Flash IDE (rim shot). I have spent a good portion of the last 2 years writing plugins for Eclipse I wonder if one could be written to manage the Library. Then I'd never have to open the Flash IDE. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] removeEventListener not working?
You could try my EventManager class: http://lab.zeusdesign.net/?p=1 You won't have to use Delegate at all. There's an argument for a specific function to call for the listener you are adding. It doesn't have all the same functionality as EventDispatcher yet, so it might not be right for you, but I've switched to it in my projects without a hitch. Josh Tynjala Zeus Design -- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:39:17 +0200 From: Martin Klasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] removeEventListener not working? To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just read about it on another site. Seems to be the only solution, to store it in a variable. -that is a little to bad really, but I guess I have to live with that. Thanks for your answers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helen Triolo Sent: den 27 oktober 2005 15:20 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] removeEventListener not working? You have to store a reference to the delegate to be able to remove it. A modification of a post by Till S: function clearListeners():Void { fntController.removeEventListener('onFinished', fdelegate); } var fdelegate = Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded); fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', fdelegate); cleanListeners(); Helen Martin Klasson wrote: I pasted in wrong line at the bottom, should be like this: // ADD fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); // REMOVE DOESN'T WORK fntController.removeEventListener('onFinished', Delegate.create(this, fontsLoaded)); The problem is that I have used the Delegate in the addEventListener. If I skip the Delegate on both the add and remove, then it works. -but then I will have the wrong scope as well in the functions that gets called ;( So how do I remove a eventlistener when it has been added with a delegate? / martin ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
Agreed. Quite selfishly, I'd like the following to happen: Blaze joins the Adobe graphics suite of tools and integrates with them in all the obvious ways (video, vector graphics, animation timeline like After Effects, etc). Its Library can export all these assets into FlexBuilder. FlexBuilder / Eclipse imports these assets into its own Library plugin to be used by programmers. In this scenario, Flex is to Flash what Photoshop is to Dreamweaver. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Singleton and Listeners is a bad combination
Hi Coders. I got a class which I thought would be improved by using the Singleton pattern. And it does, until I am adding in the EventDispatcher. The problem is that my application will using the FontLoader.getInstance() at several places in different classes and files. The problem arises since you can set addEventListeners to the instance. If you in class A has: fntController = FontLoader.getInstance() fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', fontsLoaded) And in Class B you have the same as class A, just to state an example of the problem... The problem is that since FontLoader.getInstance() returns exactly the same instance everytime. So when class B fontsLoaded is called, the fontsLoaded is also called in class A. The problem is that even though you can use removeEventListener, you might not want do that since you might still want the fontsLoaded to be working in class A another time. One solution is that you in class A and class B doesnt have the same name for the function that is given in the addEventListener -but that doesnt seem like a neat solution to depend on that when several developers might write the same. As well as boring for the EventDispatcher used in the FontLoader to call listener-function which might not exist in the different scopes/classes where the FontLoader istance is. So I thought the best way would be to do the class ALL static, but the problem would still be the same with the listeners. I can only come up with one solution, and that is to do the usual, that you will have to instanciate the class. class A private var fntController:FontLoader = new FontLoader(); // now I can have listeners which just would listen to this instance. class B private var fntController:FontLoader = new FontLoader(); // now I can have listeners which just would listen to this instance. This will make them able to have listeners that wont interfere with each other. Is this the best solution, or do you know of any other solution that you think would suit this scenario? Listeners are incredibly great, and I am thinking on the Key-class, that has addListener, which is a static class and should suffer just as well as my FontLoader-listeners does. But somehow it doesnt fit the FontLoader. What do you think, any general advices? Singleton and EventDispatcher doesnt come in handy when you are having the getInstance() at several places in an application, or am I wrong? Thanks. / martin ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
As someone who has never really spent much time in the Flash authoring tool, could you explain the exact features that would be really useful in a Flex Builder library plugin? If it looks feasible I might attempt it. Spike On 10/27/05, Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather, In this scenario, Flex is to Flash what Dreamweaver is to Photoshop. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Stephen Milligan Do you do the Badger? http://www.yellowbadger.com Do you cfeclipse? http://www.cfeclipse.org ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Re: am i approaching this problem correctly?
a quick update on this. if i want to check for inactivity in the flash movie can i not simply use javascript to listen for onMouseMove on the browser page...and when it doesn't detect it, simply redirect to another page? the question being can javascript keep track of mouse movements using onMouseMove when the focus is on the flash movie? thanks. -- matt. On 10/27/05, Matt Ganz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi. i want to ask people's opinions about an issue and see if my solution is on target. i have a navigation.swf that sits in a frame on an html page. on click of nav button, a getURL loads another swf into the frame below. ugly, i know. but i don't have the option to recode the piece at this point. what i need to do is track inactivity. if there's been no action for 90 seconds (in both swf files), i'm going to getURL() and send them to a screensaver page. i have code that tracks inactivity without a problem but i'm assuming i'll need to compare it to see if there's been inactivity in both the navigation.swf and the swf currently being viewed. if both have been inactive for 90 seconds, then getURL. so i'm going to need to use local connection. am i thinking about this correctly so far or is there a more elegant solution? here's my code so far. // FOR NAVIGATION.SWF * * // init var intervalID; var status:String = active; var timeOut = 1; // local connection var navigation_lc:LocalConnection = new LocalConnection(); navigation_lc.connect( navigation_lc ); navigation_lc.loadScreensaver = function( obj:String ) { if( status == inactive obj == inactive ) { trace( load the screensaver ); } else { // what do we do? } }; // callTimeOut() function callTimeOut () { clearInterval( intervalID ); status = inactive; } mouseListener = new Object(); mouseListener.onMouseMove = function() { clearInterval( intervalID ); intervalID = setInterval( _root, callTimeOut, timeOut ); }; Mouse.addListener( mouseListener ); // FOR MAIN.SWF ** * // init var intervalID; var timeOut = 1; // local connection var main_lc:LocalConnection = new LocalConnection(); main_lc.connect( main_lc ); // callTimeOut() function callTimeOut () { main_lc.send( navigation_lc, loadScreensaver, inactive ); } mouseListener = new Object(); mouseListener.onMouseMove = function() { clearInterval( intervalID ); intervalID = setInterval( _root, callTimeOut, timeOut ); }; Mouse.addListener( mouseListener ); thanks in advance for any helpful tips and suggestions. -- matt. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
1. Map symbols to classes via some kind of package explorer wizard 2. Import existing Libraries from Flash and maintain symbols' package paths 3. Ability to export so you can import into another FlexBuilder installation There may be issues with components/EULA. Those are the biggies. I'm sure others will have more. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
On 10/27/05, Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Map symbols to classes via some kind of package explorer wizard Not totally sure what you mean by that... My understanding is that everything in AS 3/Flash 8.5 is a class and that symbols are no more. Like I said, I don't do much in the flash authoring tool, so I could be way off there. 2. Import existing Libraries from Flash and maintain symbols' package paths Existing libraries in what format? swc, fla, graphics in a directory? 3. Ability to export so you can import into another FlexBuilder installation I don't think this will be a problem. There may be issues with components/EULA. yep, will need to look into that Those are the biggies. I'm sure others will have more. Thanks Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Stephen Milligan Do you do the Badger? http://www.yellowbadger.com Do you cfeclipse? http://www.cfeclipse.org ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
On 10/27/05, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you right click on an image in Flash' library, you can edit it in Fireworks. When done, the image asset in Flash's library is updated. This should be possible. If Flex could do this, this is the first step in keeping you in the IDE, but bringing in outside resources only when necessarey. Even better would be the ability to edit SWC's assets. Since they aren't always components, and could just be single classes, or even just asset holders, it'd be nice to have Flash launch so you could edit the graphics. I know Flash can do this via OLE from Word, so similiar scenario. Edit my SWC graphics, and update the SWC. A SWC is just a zip file with a different file extension, so I'd say this should also be possible. A little more tricky, but definitely possible Finally, give me a library panel in Eclipse; same thing as the Project Panel currently, only shows thumbnail previews of the images upon rollover. You mean images in a .swc? Going further, shows previews of states of different components and you can edit the graphics of those states. Hmmm, that might be a bit more tricky, but could definitely investigate it. I've told you all of this before, hahah! You have? When? - Original Message - From: Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex As someone who has never really spent much time in the Flash authoring tool, could you explain the exact features that would be really useful in a Flex Builder library plugin? If it looks feasible I might attempt it. Spike On 10/27/05, Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather, In this scenario, Flex is to Flash what Dreamweaver is to Photoshop. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Stephen Milligan Do you do the Badger? http://www.yellowbadger.com Do you cfeclipse? http://www.cfeclipse.org ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Stephen Milligan Do you do the Badger? http://www.yellowbadger.com Do you cfeclipse? http://www.cfeclipse.org ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] a little OT (maybe): Flash in Firefox
Glad you got it solved. To add to the general subject... For my host, I have to put .php4 on the php files. Just .php won't work. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
Let me add just another 2 cents to this topic Flash won't move anytime soon.. i love flash, expecially mx professional 2004.. what i think about flash and flex.. knowing macromedia they will work together as a team to bring us Developers and our customers the satisfaction that we seek.. I don't see flex supporting Flash but flash development does support flex development.. Flex just builds on the metaphore that the Flash MX line established... so i would say that the choice of environment is largely associated with the Situation at hand... But ask for me a flex lover..i would really only use it if i have an enterprise level app to build.. and depending on the level i would add some extra-power to the table with same co-operation with flash.. but for standard web-sites i won't pull out flex.. Regards. -- Kenlie Browne Software Developer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
Hi, It depends on what you are building. A web site is a pretty broad category. For the Flash interactive we use on the home page of Macromedia.com, or for site like http://www.leoburnett.ca/ or for the streaming video on the home page of Oprah.com, I would expect a creative team to build it and use Flash. For something like the dashboard front ends to SAP analytics, I would expect their dev team(s) to use Flex. For something like the accessory customizer on Harley site (http://www.harley-davidson.com/pr/gm/customizer/launchCustomizer.asp) I might expect to have a team of people that includes developers using Flex and a designer using Flash and working closely together. To over simplify, that fact that you call it a web-site makes me think Flash. If you had said web application I might have been more biased to Flex. But the lines are blurry and for the richest experiences (rich in terms of both graphics/motion/media and in terms of data) I think teams will use Flash Professional and Flex together. -David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of knly browne Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:15 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex When would you use Flash as opposed to Flex2.0 when developing a web-site Regards. -- Kenlie Browne Software Developer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
I'd upgrade to Flash 8 even though you are doing Flash 6 and 7. It has a lot of little things that make development quicker. So even though you are exporting to Flash 7 you can still take advantage of the new text resizing handles (something I use everyday) and other neat little changes. Or wait until 8.2 update (if one comes out). Best, Judah Gregory wrote: Hello flashcoders, I haven't upgrade to Flash 8 so far. Of course I'll do it soon ;-). But I have already read some of the manuals (AS reference, components etc) New features are great, definitely worth buying/using/migrating. The only question is when? Example: My product, Dynamic Blend v.2 Flash MX 2004 component, uses Color class (Flash 5-7). Have a look: http://www.gousable.com/flash/dynBlend.html Now in Flash 8 Color class became deprecated (in favor of the flash.geom.ColorTransform class). No doubt flash.geom.ColorTransform class is better, but it's flash8-only. Most other deprecated functions are from Flash 4, so I think Color class will be supported until version 10 (or even 12 ;-). On the other hand, during the last year approx. 80% of my clients require compatibility with Flash Player 6, and approx 30% - with Flash Player 5! If possible, I don't want to force user to install something... I'd like to hear your opinion regarding this. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
Not totally sure what you mean by that... Map symbols to classes via some kind of package explorer wizard: if you create a movieclip in Flash, it goes into the Flash Library as a symbol. When you right-click this new symbol in the Library and choose 'properties' you'll see a wizard in which you can associate the symbol with an actionscript class. It would be nice to have the same capability in this hypothetical Library plugin for Eclipse, only you can surf to the class and choose it instead of having to write 'com.arp.blah.blah...'. 2. Import existing Libraries from Flash and maintain symbols' package paths Existing libraries in what format? A designer creates a new Flash file and creates the visual interface. He/she arranges his native Flash IDE Library, naming symbols and such. A developer then goes into Eclipse and from this hypothetical plugin can import that native Flash Library. There may be issues with components/EULA. yep, will need to look into that This is keeping people from sharing source and that is bad. Can't they just open source the components? Come on! (Bangs fist on keyboard.) Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] When migrate to Flash 8?
little things that make development quicker Faster compile time being the most important, IMHO. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
ok, in what format is the library saved from the Flash IDE? Right now from what I know it isn't possible to save a Library from the IDE, but if I were to venture a guess I'd say this would be possible using JSFL. If so, a resulting XML and SWC would make sense. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Flash Comm Server and Stream Problem
Hello all, Perhaps someone can help me figure this problem out. I have a flash app that streams a flv. Then at the end of the video an event is triggered. I'm not using onLastSecond due to technology in current usage. So instead I'm doing 2 things to evaluate end of video state/event. First I'm looking for the onMetaData event and evaluating the duration versus the NetStream playhead, but there are some issues with only relying on this method. (Bottle-necking can cause the stream to skip or seek forward and meta data never gets read) So secondly, I'm looking for 2 events from the server. NetStream.Buffer.Flush and NetStream.Buffer.Empty. First looking for Flush then looking for Empty to follow. However, even those 2 events never get triggered by the server. For the life of me I don't know why. Perhaps the stream service provider did not update the software... Is there any other method of know the stream has ended? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
Hmm So a library is imported, and lives only in the Flash authoring tool? The only way to export library items is to add them to a .fla and export that as a .swf? The items must be stored somewhere, so maybe I can dig around and figure that out. Spike On 10/27/05, Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, in what format is the library saved from the Flash IDE? Right now from what I know it isn't possible to save a Library from the IDE, but if I were to venture a guess I'd say this would be possible using JSFL. If so, a resulting XML and SWC would make sense. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Stephen Milligan Do you do the Badger? http://www.yellowbadger.com Do you cfeclipse? http://www.cfeclipse.org ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
I'm all for making plugins and updates to FB but if this is a huge upgrade you might want to submit your feature requests to labs.macromedia.com first. They released FB2 as alpha so that the Flash community could talk about what needs to be added. I'm not sure how open MM will be about this but you can ask them if they have this feature in the plan IMHO. Judah Spike wrote: On 10/27/05, Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not totally sure what you mean by that... Map symbols to classes via some kind of package explorer wizard: if you create a movieclip in Flash, it goes into the Flash Library as a symbol. When you right-click this new symbol in the Library and choose 'properties' you'll see a wizard in which you can associate the symbol with an actionscript class. It would be nice to have the same capability in this hypothetical Library plugin for Eclipse, only you can surf to the class and choose it instead of having to write 'com.arp.blah.blah...'. ok, I think I see what you mean now. I'll wait and see what happens when Flash authoring gets update for AS 3 and Flash 8.5. My understanding is that everything will be a class and that symbols won't really exist any more. I can look at picking apart .swc files and seeing how much of that I can display. I did that already for the Flex 1.5 framework, so I know quite a bit about what's going on in there, it's just a question of how much it's changed since then. 2. Import existing Libraries from Flash and maintain symbols' package paths Existing libraries in what format? A designer creates a new Flash file and creates the visual interface. He/she arranges his native Flash IDE Library, naming symbols and such. A developer then goes into Eclipse and from this hypothetical plugin can import that native Flash Library. ok, in what format is the library saved from the Flash IDE? .fla, .swf or .swc .swc is by far the easiest to deal with, but that doesn't help if there are .swf files inside. It will be possible to run an instance of the flash player inside the library plugin, so that would allow display of .swf assets. .fla files would be the trickiest of the lot and I'm inclined to say that it's probably better not to bother since they need to be turned into either a .swf or .swc to use them in a project anyhow. There may be issues with components/EULA. yep, will need to look into that This is keeping people from sharing source and that is bad. Can't they just open source the components? Come on! (Bangs fist on keyboard.) heheheh Yeah, dammit! and while they're at it, I'll have a copy of the flash paper source so I can sort out this text table problem I'm struggling with. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Stephen Milligan Do you do the Badger? http://www.yellowbadger.com Do you cfeclipse? http://www.cfeclipse.org ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
I do usually chat to Macromedia about this sort of stuff before I implement it. Often they can't give me a definitive answer on whether it will be implemented or not because it hasn't been decided yet. In that case I usually hold off until I'm fairly sure they won't. No point in me doing work they're already on top of, but it does help if I understand what people might want before asking them if it's likely to happen. Spike On 10/27/05, Judah Frangipane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm all for making plugins and updates to FB but if this is a huge upgrade you might want to submit your feature requests to labs.macromedia.com http://labs.macromedia.com first. They released FB2 as alpha so that the Flash community could talk about what needs to be added. I'm not sure how open MM will be about this but you can ask them if they have this feature in the plan IMHO. Judah Spike wrote: On 10/27/05, Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not totally sure what you mean by that... Map symbols to classes via some kind of package explorer wizard: if you create a movieclip in Flash, it goes into the Flash Library as a symbol. When you right-click this new symbol in the Library and choose 'properties' you'll see a wizard in which you can associate the symbol with an actionscript class. It would be nice to have the same capability in this hypothetical Library plugin for Eclipse, only you can surf to the class and choose it instead of having to write 'com.arp.blah.blah...'. ok, I think I see what you mean now. I'll wait and see what happens when Flash authoring gets update for AS 3 and Flash 8.5. My understanding is that everything will be a class and that symbols won't really exist any more. I can look at picking apart .swc files and seeing how much of that I can display. I did that already for the Flex 1.5 framework, so I know quite a bit about what's going on in there, it's just a question of how much it's changed since then. 2. Import existing Libraries from Flash and maintain symbols' package paths Existing libraries in what format? A designer creates a new Flash file and creates the visual interface. He/she arranges his native Flash IDE Library, naming symbols and such. A developer then goes into Eclipse and from this hypothetical plugin can import that native Flash Library. ok, in what format is the library saved from the Flash IDE? .fla, .swf or .swc .swc is by far the easiest to deal with, but that doesn't help if there are .swf files inside. It will be possible to run an instance of the flash player inside the library plugin, so that would allow display of .swf assets. .fla files would be the trickiest of the lot and I'm inclined to say that it's probably better not to bother since they need to be turned into either a .swf or .swc to use them in a project anyhow. There may be issues with components/EULA. yep, will need to look into that This is keeping people from sharing source and that is bad. Can't they just open source the components? Come on! (Bangs fist on keyboard.) heheheh Yeah, dammit! and while they're at it, I'll have a copy of the flash paper source so I can sort out this text table problem I'm struggling with. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Stephen Milligan Do you do the Badger? http://www.yellowbadger.com Do you cfeclipse? http://www.cfeclipse.org ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Stephen Milligan Do you do the Badger? http://www.yellowbadger.com Do you cfeclipse? http://www.cfeclipse.org ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
I think a Library plugin is a logical requirement if MM really wants to improve workflow. Hopefully it will be considered for FB2/8.5 update. Mike ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Singleton and Listeners is a bad combination
On 10/27/05, Martin Klasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got a class which I thought would be improved by using the Singleton pattern. And it does, until I am adding in the EventDispatcher. The problem is that my application will using the FontLoader.getInstance() at several places in different classes and files. The problem arises since you can set addEventListeners to the instance. If you in class A has: fntController = FontLoader.getInstance() fntController.addEventListener('onFinished', fontsLoaded) And in Class B you have the same as class A, just to state an example of the problem... The problem is that since FontLoader.getInstance() returns exactly the same instance everytime. So when class B fontsLoaded is called, the fontsLoaded is also called in class A. One solution may be to have your fontsLoaded methods examine the event object that is passed to see if it is the one they want to respond to. You could probably come up with other solutions by examining the documentation :) -A ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Local machine data manipulation
At 11:45 AM +0100 10/27/05, Nick Weekes wrote: Thanks for the comments Jesse. One question on Director though (before going waaay OT), is it possible to perform local file write operations while still in the browser, or do these have to be projector files, i.e. standalone executables? Using a Shockwave safe xtra it is possible to access the local drive while in the browser. One xtra I've used for this is vList: http://www.updatestage.com/xtras/vlist.html It writes data out in a custom binary format - but that was fine for my needs (can save image data, any cast data, etc.). There are other Shockwave safe xtras that do local disk access. SetPrefs/GetPrefs works in both the brwoser + projector but is limited to text only, and to a small amount of data per write (I forget exactly how much - 10-20k as I recall). --Roy -- ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
Let me start with, I applaud labs.macromedia.comhttp://labs.macromedia.com. On the other hand as a matter of practicality Studio 8 has just been released and it's like the universe has completely lost all perspective of what an amazing powerhouse Flash 8 is. The 8.5 Flash Player is an Alpha. That means that while it's ultra-cool and very deep, it's an Alpha as well and is in the initial stages of development. I think the prepping is okay but the *real* in production live tool is Flash 8. Macromedia is working to get people to install FP 8 not 8.5. In closing I am pro-Flex 2 Builder and have played with it, but if you take some time and explore Flash 8, you will find that it's an amazing deep well of power. On 10/27/05, knly browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When would you use Flash as opposed to Flex2.0 when developing a web-site Regards. -- Kenlie Browne Software Developer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- // Jaye Morris | Designer // www.jayezero.com http://www.jayezero.com // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Open all Branches of a Tree Component
Hi Martin, I've used something like this (can't remeber exactly): public function setTreeIsOpen(open:Boolean):Void { for(var i:Number = 0; i tree.length; i++) { tree.setIsOpen(tree.getTreeNodeAt(i), open, false); } } Hope it helps. -- Daniel Cascais Tel: +56 (0)2 4589495 Cel: +56 (0)9 9417355 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
True enough, but there is much coolness to be derived from CFMX 7 (if you're on that platform) and working through the Flash Forms. There are some astounding things which can be accomplished. ;-) On 10/27/05, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: flash.filters.GlowFilter has a different market than flash.display.Sprite, hence Flash Player 8 being targeted at designers and Flash Player 8.5 targetted at developers. - Original Message - From: Jaye Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex Let me start with, I applaud labs.macromedia.com http://labs.macromedia.com http://labs.macromedia.com. On the other hand as a matter of practicality Studio 8 has just been released and it's like the universe has completely lost all perspective of what an amazing powerhouse Flash 8 is. The 8.5 Flash Player is an Alpha. That means that while it's ultra-cool and very deep, it's an Alpha as well and is in the initial stages of development. I think the prepping is okay but the *real* in production live tool is Flash 8. Macromedia is working to get people to install FP 8 not 8.5. In closing I am pro-Flex 2 Builder and have played with it, but if you take some time and explore Flash 8, you will find that it's an amazing deep well of power. On 10/27/05, knly browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When would you use Flash as opposed to Flex2.0 when developing a web-site Regards. -- Kenlie Browne Software Developer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- // Jaye Morris | Designer // www.jayezero.com http://www.jayezero.com http://www.jayezero.com // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- // Jaye Morris | Designer // www.jayezero.com http://www.jayezero.com // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Cannot assign text component from array with href / asfunction
Movie has two text fields, the left one is named txtHeads and is filled with lines like this: a href=asfunction:addStory, _root.arrStorys[6] bBRUCE CLARKE'S SONbr /COPS A SECURITIES ACT PLEA/b/abrbr When BRUCE CLARKE'S SONbr /COPS A SECURITIES ACT PLEA, asfunction should be calling addStory, as follows: function addStory(stryElement:String){ // assign contents of passed array element to text control. Dummy names are used. _root.txtNews.text = stryElement; } addStory() does not fire when the link is clicked on. When a trace was placed in it, nothing showed up in the output window. Where am I going wrong? I have used the same technique to load external files, why not from an array that's global to the entire movie? Regards - Miles Thompson ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Another random number generator
I saw a post on a forum recently about random number generators and the ability to create on that could be seeded. So, I took up the challenge and converted the Mersenne Twister algorithm to AS2 (probably one of the best, and fastest, pseudo-random number generators out there). Code is available of course. Not that any of you need something like this, but ya never know: http://magicsnacks.com/shiftedpixels/?p=8 One thing I found out is that Flash chokes on a 32-bit and a 53-bit hex number. Flash should represent 0x1 as 2^32 or 4294967296. The same goes for a 53-bit hex, say 0x20, which is 2^53 or 9007199254740992. Anyone know why that is - aside from the fact that the number type is 32-bit in Flash (AS2)? I'd love to work that out but have a feeling that until I get this to AS3, there won't be any chance of that. cheers, Jon ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] OT: Macromedia Central - is it a flop?
Central has been out for a while, and is it now fair to say its just a big flop? Just seems like it to me - not much has been added/developed for it, some bugs in it, etc. Is MM still trying to push it as a real platform for the net-connected desktop at the same time they push Flex/Flash for the actual web? I've also always wondered what real advantage Central has over the general web 1.0 and web 2.0? The apps developed for it that I have seen could also have been done with Flex/Flash since that can also be a united environment. Plus, it's a download, which is a major disadvantage, when you can get the same use out of Web pages already out there. So really, Central seems just like a glorified browser, where instead of surfing directly to HTML and Flash pages, you have to install Central applications which connect to internet based data. Has anyone else thought the same thing or am I not understanding something about Central? Personally, the best thing about Central I have found is certainly not the Movie Finder (I can do that with MovieFone.com) but a simple little game addicting someone developed for it called Clicks - but then, that could also have been in a Web page. I guess I can play Clicks when not on the net though, big advantage of Central I guess! Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Flexcoders List?
I hate to be the bug but it seems like flash coders list has gone from flash questions to a lot of flex. Would anyone else like to see a list dedicated to flexcoders to help keep the list clean and emails down? Corban Baxter | rich media designer | www.funimation.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Cannot assign text component from array with href / asfunction
snip a href=asfunction:addStory, _root.arrStorys[6] bBRUCE CLARKE'S SONbr /COPS A SECURITIES ACT PLEA/b/abrbr /snip I'm no expert on asfunction but, seems to me it's pretty limited. You could just pass the function name and the Array index value: f.e.: a href=asfunction:addStory,6 Then you could read the value of the array at index 6 from within your addStory function. Not exactly what you wanted but it will work. -Steven Loe ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] New way to resize TextField in IDE ?
Hi all, I hope I do a big mistake. Tell me. With Flash 2004 and before, one just have to put a textfield on the stage and give it values with the property inspector. It was fast and easy. With Flash 8 IDE, if I do the same, the font inside are resized ? Whatever tool I use : Arrow, Free transform or Text, the behavior is the same. Should I say that on a mac ? Is it an osx only (how could I say) **new** feature ? Is there any way to give values to a textfield on stage. (Don't answer by script please) Thanks. --- erixtekila http://blog.v-i-a.net/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flexcoders List?
Just use gmail or something for e-mail lists, then, who cares about the volume. I appreciate the noise, it's usually quite informative, which is why I'm on a mail list anyhow. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] im unsubscribing, however you do that
DO NOT SEND ME ANYMORE MESSAGES FROM FLASHCODERS, I SIGNED UP ON ACCIDENT. LEAVE ME ALONE, ALL OF YOU! Anonymous Unknown - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Flexcoders List?
I hate to be the bug but it seems like flash coders list has gone from flash questions to a lot of flex. Would anyone else like to see a list dedicated to flexcoders to help keep the list clean and emails down? There is already a Flexcoders list on Yahoo, for those who're interested. However, Flex and Flash are pretty closely related, so I don't really see it as off-topic. In addition, the Flex question volume is probably temporary - MM just made a bunch of Flex announcements, etc. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Macromedia Central - is it a flop?
In my mind, the big advantage of Central is the occasionally connected computing aspect, that is the ability to synchronisation data the next time you are able to reliably connect to a network. If you read the Flash Platform Overview paper, it indicates that Flex 2 will provider better support for this data synchronisation and occasionally connected computing. What is still unclear that this stage is whether the Central Shell (the part that allows you to install the application on your system and keep it the application up-to-date) will provide branding customisation and the ability to package your own applications for the enterprise market. I'm certainly keen on that aspect of Central. Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group www.flashdev.org.au ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex
Hi Bjorn. Best thing to do would be to download the Flex 2 Alpha and work through the tutes. Jules On 10/28/05, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flash mixed with Flex Sounds like the cocktail of the hour. Where can i find more info learning on best techniques of combining the 2? On 10/28/05, David Mendels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, It depends on what you are building. A web site is a pretty broad category. For the Flash interactive we use on the home page of Macromedia.comhttp://Macromedia.com http://Macromedia.com, or for site like http://www.leoburnett.ca/ or for the streaming video on the home page of Oprah.com http://Oprah.com http://Oprah.com, I would expect a creative team to build it and use Flash. For something like the dashboard front ends to SAP analytics, I would expect their dev team(s) to use Flex. For something like the accessory customizer on Harley site (http://www.harley-davidson.com/pr/gm/customizer/launchCustomizer.asp) I might expect to have a team of people that includes developers using Flex and a designer using Flash and working closely together. To over simplify, that fact that you call it a web-site makes me think Flash. If you had said web application I might have been more biased to Flex. But the lines are blurry and for the richest experiences (rich in terms of both graphics/motion/media and in terms of data) I think teams will use Flash Professional and Flex together. -David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of knly browne Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:15 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash vs Flex When would you use Flash as opposed to Flex2.0 when developing a web-site Regards. -- Kenlie Browne Software Developer ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Macromedia Central - is it a flop?
I'd be curious to see how many people actually have central - my general thoughts are that the only real people that use it are flash developers :) I don't know of anyone that uses it other than some developers that installed it once and had a look. On 10/28/05, Chris Velevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my mind, the big advantage of Central is the occasionally connected computing aspect, that is the ability to synchronisation data the next time you are able to reliably connect to a network. If you read the Flash Platform Overview paper, it indicates that Flex 2 will provider better support for this data synchronisation and occasionally connected computing. What is still unclear that this stage is whether the Central Shell (the part that allows you to install the application on your system and keep it the application up-to-date) will provide branding customisation and the ability to package your own applications for the enterprise market. I'm certainly keen on that aspect of Central. Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group www.flashdev.org.au http://www.flashdev.org.au ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Why Flex?
I haven't used Flex yet and I know little more than of it's existance. I'm pretty accomplished with Flash/AS 2.0 OOP, classes, custom UI components, JSFL, etc. and I'm happy using MX 2004 Pro. I guess I'd classify myself as a programmer by desire and a designer by necessity. My question for the Flex people is this, what does Flex bring to the table that I can not already do with 04 Pro (not counting the new AS 3.0)? I understand Flex is suppose to have something to do with rapid application development through the use of it's components. What's wrong with the UI components in Flash? How do these differ? I want to dive into Flex which will probably happen in the next week or so when my current projects finish. I want to know what to expect. Am I looking at a new way of developing basically the same swfs? Will I be able to do things I currently can not? It seems I keep reading that the programmers will gravitate towards Flex and the designers towards Flash. Maybe a couple of the Flex people can help me try and wrap my head around the why. It's all a bit fuzzy to me at the moment. Lastly, what's the deal with purchasing? I see Flex Server listed as a product but no IDE listed as a buyable product. Does the IDE come with the server? Is that what Eclipse is? JOR ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] SWF Decompilers
ASV (ActionScript Viewer) is hands down the best utility for looking through an SWF - thought I know you're not interested in that really ;) Nothing is safe in your published swf. Bottom line. The components can be looked at with decompilers as well. The only option you might have is obfuscating like you mentioned. And still, that doesn't sound very safe either. At Max last week, at the security discussion, the presenter brought up the fact that there are programs that can break the obfuscation as well. I don't have any program names that do it, but thats what was said. If you're using FCS, you can possibly have your logic that matters to you on the server side and protected. Red5 currently has server side services implemented as well and will offer this type of functionality. hth, On 10/27/05, James O'Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question about protecting my swfs. If I use external AS2 classes and compile my swf, will those classes be exposed if someone were to decompile my swf with a program like Sothink's SWF Decompiler or other similar decompiler? It creates a bunch of empty files, one for each class I have and says that ActionScript is suppressed in the demo version. I can't tell if they are empty because it's the demo or if that's because they were external classes. What good programs might people recommend for obfuscating my swfs? Is this even neccessary to obfuscate if the code I'm really interested in protecting is in external classes rather than inside the FLA? Does the same go for compiled clips or custom UI components? JOR ___ === James O'Reilly === === SynergyMedia, Inc. === www.synergymedia.net http://www.synergymedia.net ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Why Flex?
Read the last 2-3 weeks of this list. It's been very well covered already. On 10/27/05, James O'Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question for the Flex people is this, what does Flex bring to the table that I can not already do with 04 Pro (not counting the new AS 3.0)? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Macromedia Central - is it a flop?
'Apollo' was mentioned at MAX. While the current incantation of Central may be a flop in the general sense of the word, the overall idea of Flash on the Desktop [OCC, quick install c] diffidently isn't dead. Stay tuned...? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:16 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] OT: Macromedia Central - is it a flop? Central has been out for a while, and is it now fair to say its just a big flop? Just seems like it to me - not much has been added/developed for it, some bugs in it, etc. Is MM still trying to push it as a real platform for the net-connected desktop at the same time they push Flex/Flash for the actual web? I've also always wondered what real advantage Central has over the general web 1.0 and web 2.0? The apps developed for it that I have seen could also have been done with Flex/Flash since that can also be a united environment. Plus, it's a download, which is a major disadvantage, when you can get the same use out of Web pages already out there. So really, Central seems just like a glorified browser, where instead of surfing directly to HTML and Flash pages, you have to install Central applications which connect to internet based data. Has anyone else thought the same thing or am I not understanding something about Central? Personally, the best thing about Central I have found is certainly not the Movie Finder (I can do that with MovieFone.com) but a simple little game addicting someone developed for it called Clicks - but then, that could also have been in a Web page. I guess I can play Clicks when not on the net though, big advantage of Central I guess! Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Macromedia Central - is it a flop?
At 8:35 PM -0400 10/27/05, Count Schemula wrote: I don't think normal people have any clue that Central exists. Macromedia creates a lot of things and then lets them die. Remember the whole shockwave game player? Or even shockwave? Or Director MUS? Seriously! It's kind of amazingly pathological the benign neglect of technologies and products they pioneered. Can corporations have an inferiority complex? -- ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] are the wheels off the Flash Player wagon?
I have the same configuration as yours and everything is ok! link: http://www.bmwusa.com/BMW2003/Templates/MicroSiteHandlerNew3.aspx?NRMODE=PublishedNRORIGINALURL=%2fnewM5%2ehtmNRNODEGUID=%7b842F8706-6EE2-4A57-B409-4FADB716F1E8%7dNRCACHEHINT=Guestbhcp=1 Maybe they fixed their code? A+ Count Schemula wrote: I just went to the BMW website, and got ready to explore the new M5. Win XP Firefox 1.0.7 Flash Player 8 The website checks my extended capabilities and blocks my progress and tells me that I need Flash Player 7 to view the website. Sigh. The more things change, the more things seem like 1996. What's funny, or not so funny, the bigest websites are the worst offenders. I'm a small developer and I get raked over the coals for the stupidest things and then I go to a big boy site and get junked up. I use Express Install to force people to upgrade to FP8, mostly because I love the way the fonts look, and I am going to use the new video codec. I get light traffic, and I just up and change my whole website every so often, so, it's not really something I want to do - develop an FP7 and an FP8 website. The ubiquitous player will never be realized. :( ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] New way to resize TextField in IDE ?
You have never been able to numerically resize text in Flash. Flash 7 had the same behaviour. Many had hoped Flash 8 would *resolve* this issue, but it didn't happen. It certainly isn't a new issue. On 10/27/05, erixtekila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I hope I do a big mistake. Tell me. With Flash 2004 and before, one just have to put a textfield on the stage and give it values with the property inspector. It was fast and easy. With Flash 8 IDE, if I do the same, the font inside are resized ? Whatever tool I use : Arrow, Free transform or Text, the behavior is the same. Should I say that on a mac ? Is it an osx only (how could I say) **new** feature ? Is there any way to give values to a textfield on stage. (Don't answer by script please) Thanks. --- erixtekila http://blog.v-i-a.net/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- - Lanny McNie ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Open all Branches of a Tree Component
Daniel, I am looking for something that would allow every branch to be recursively set to Open. Wouldn't the code below only open the children of root? Martin :) On 10/27/05 2:06 PM, Daniel Cascais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Martin, I've used something like this (can't remeber exactly): -- -- public function setTreeIsOpen(open:Boolean):Void { for(var i:Number = 0; i tree.length; i++) { tree.setIsOpen(tree.getTreeNodeAt(i), open, false); } } -- -- Hope it helps. -- Daniel Cascais Tel: +56 (0)2 4589495 Cel: +56 (0)9 9417355 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Macromedia Central - is it a flop?
Central was a developer release. Sometime to innovate you have to put something out there and learn from it. There were some invaluable lessons learned from Central: 1. Player performance needed to improve an order of magnitude. 2. FileIO was important. 3. Binary data manipulation was important. 4. Flash Platform needed better tools for application development. Flash on the desktop is far from dead, actually it is the next beachhead for the Flash Platform. Central was a learning experience that will allow MM to make a future product 20X better. Here is what I would like to see in the future desktop flash player: 1. Hardware acceleration of graphic rendering. 2. Window transparency and shape control. 3. Full OSX and Windows integration, icons, tray, dock. 4. Once click app installation (What Central got right!) 5. APIs for creating child windows as needed. 6. Integration with joysticks and other input devices for games. 7. Developer branding, not MM branding. 8. Performance 10x faster than web players. 9. Resolution scaling similar to http://www.swfxxl.com/ 10. Unique ID specific to Desktop User for COLA Licensing BTW, VB2.0 was a flop. It took another release to get thing right. My 2 cents, Ted Patrick Central has been out for a while, and is it now fair to say its just a big flop? Just seems like it to me - not much has been added/developed for it, some bugs in it, etc. Is MM still trying to push it as a real platform for the net-connected desktop at the same time they push Flex/Flash for the actual web? I've also always wondered what real advantage Central has over the general web 1.0 and web 2.0? The apps developed for it that I have seen could also have been done with Flex/Flash since that can also be a united environment. Plus, it's a download, which is a major disadvantage, when you can get the same use out of Web pages already out there. So really, Central seems just like a glorified browser, where instead of surfing directly to HTML and Flash pages, you have to install Central applications which connect to internet based data. Has anyone else thought the same thing or am I not understanding something about Central? Personally, the best thing about Central I have found is certainly not the Movie Finder (I can do that with MovieFone.com) but a simple little game addicting someone developed for it called Clicks - but then, that could also have been in a Web page. I guess I can play Clicks when not on the net though, big advantage of Central I guess! Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 0.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 0.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Why Flex?
My question for the Flex people is this, what does Flex bring to the table that I can not already do with 04 Pro (not counting the new AS 3.0)? Allot! 1. There are tons of details in building apps in Flash 2004 Pro that just get removed when using Flex. All the small painful lessons that you needed to know disappear as they are built into the Flex Framework. This allows you to focus on the actual application you are building. 2. Better components and more of them. Containers, VBox, Repeaters, oh my! 3. Larger applications. Building very large scale applications in Flex is very feasible where it was hard to do this with Flash 2004 Pro. You can reuse blocks of MXML in Flex as a component. 4. MXML generates AS Classes. MXML is a code generator, it takes a simple XML hierarchy and generates an AS class representing your app just before compilation. As MXML is translated before compilation, tags can provide embedding of graphics, component generation, and UI generation that is very exact and detailed. In Flash the hierarchy of an application is hidden from the developer, where in Flex the hierarchy is directly what is added into the MXML XML tree. Flex is right aligned. I felt the same thing about Flex 10 months ago. It took being dropped into a Flex project to see it for myself. You can build much larger scale applications in Flex than you can in Flash and in Flex they are 20 times easier to maintain and change ongoing. Team development is also enhances with Flex. As apps are mostly ASCII text, Flex is easy to work with in version control. Take the leap and learn Flex. It is one of the best things you can do long term within the Flash Platform. You will loath learning a new toolset at first but soon you will be writing application faster than before and with less hassle. Plus as you know Flash, you can extend Flex with it! I though for a while that Flex was going to automate me out of a job. The reality is that once you know it, the project scope in Flex is much larger. I am working on better projects and earning a good bit having learned Flex. My 2 Cents, Theodore Patrick -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 0.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders