[Flashcoders] Flash fullscreen in a JavaScript app?
Hi, I've developed a JavaScript slideshow at http://vispo.com/nio/pens/slideshow I want a fullscreen button in it. No browser chrome whatsoever. None. As you probably know, this is fully supported in Flash but not in JavaScript. Which is a real annoyance. There's the fullscreen='yes' thing as a parameter in window.open, but this still results in some browser chrome. Is it possible to insert a little Flash app in the HTML which, when clicked, causes the slideshow to go fullscreen while also permitting the user to use the JavaScript controls? Normally what would happen, I realize, is it goes fullscreen and you have a fullscreen that has nothing on it but the fullscreen button. Which of course is not what I'm after. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash fullscreen in a JavaScript app?
What I'm after--but I don't think it's possible--is a way to build a JavaScript-powered button which, when clicked, makes the browser go fullscreen-no-browser-chrome. While the main interactive content remained a DHTML app. I thought it might be possible to use Flash's fullscreen capabilities, but I realize now it isn't, for the reason you give. It's a pity it isn't possible to go fullscreen-no-browser-chrome even if the user wants to by clicking such a button (which doesn't exist). Thanks, Michael, for your help and your comment on Slidvid. Here's an article I wrote about Slidvid: http://netartery.vispo.com/?p=789 ja - Original Message - From: Mendelsohn, Michael michael.mendels...@fmglobal.com To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:24 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash fullscreen in a JavaScript app? Hi Jim... That's really impressive. Very nice work. If I'm understanding your question correctly, you're asking if you can silently trigger Flash to go full screen. The problem is that when you go full screen with Flash, the only thing full screen is the Flash stage, not the browser. For the browser to go full screen that's F11 on the keyboard. Hope I'm answering that correctly for you. - Michael M. -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Jim Andrews Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:58 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash fullscreen in a JavaScript app? Hi, I've developed a JavaScript slideshow at http://vispo.com/nio/pens/slideshow I want a fullscreen button in it. No browser chrome whatsoever. None. As you probably know, this is fully supported in Flash but not in JavaScript. Which is a real annoyance. There's the fullscreen='yes' thing as a parameter in window.open, but this still results in some browser chrome. Is it possible to insert a little Flash app in the HTML which, when clicked, causes the slideshow to go fullscreen while also permitting the user to use the JavaScript controls? Normally what would happen, I realize, is it goes fullscreen and you have a fullscreen that has nothing on it but the fullscreen button. Which of course is not what I'm after. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] custom flv controls
i've created a couple of nice flv files in premier. i tried all sorts of options, mp4, avi, and so on. flv seems to be the best option for the web. ok i've got the flv files. but the controls you can choose in flash pro are ugly. and there's no fullscreen option. yeesh. i've seen some pretty flv controls out there with a prominent fullscreen option. how do i display flv with pretty controls and a fullscreen option? ja? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] On Pulsate by Andre Michelle
Here is something I wrote about an online interactive piece by Andre Michelle called Pulsate: http://netartery.vispo.com/?p=192 ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex generative art???
I'm a bit confused as to how to proceed with Flash. I've been using Director for the last 11 years. You can see the sort of (Director Shockwave) apps I like to create at http://vispo.com/dbcinema/sw/sw.htm and http://vispo.com/jig/arteroids/exe . These apps contain menus, spin controls, drop-down menus, and similar types of controls, and generally lots of them. But they also contain, in the case of http://vispo.com/dbcinema/sw/sw.htm , high-performance generative art. They're both very 'interactive interface' oriented and also very high-performance-art-oriented. Windowing, menuing, dialog boxes, and interactive controls are important to them. But so is lots of room for the art. I don't really care about filesize being bulked up by Flex. High speed access is common, these days. But if Flex is slow in performance, that's the more important thing, to me. Is it? How is it in terms of speed? How would you approach making the above sorts of apps in Flash? Would you create them as ActionScript projects or would you use Flex? ja http://vispo.com - Original Message - From: Jer Brand thejhe...@gmail.com To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex generative art??? Flex is for RIA's and helps you with layouts and common controls and doesn't really provide anything useful for generating art with either vectors or drawing to a sprite. With the framework itself bulking up the size of your swf and consuming additional resources, it's not really a good thing. The generative art I typically use straight ActionScript with a library of choice -- Hype (http://www.hypeframework.org/) being particularly awesome for that kinda thing. There's nothing stopping you from using Flex / Flash Builder as your editor though. Just create an ActionScript or Flash Professional project. If you're just looking for ActionScript generative art, I'm fairly partial to http://levitated.net/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] on the iPad
As it is built now, the iPad is the ultimate consumer device, meant primarily to consume media, not to produce it. That's why, in its first iteration, it has no native printing application, no camera, no USB ports for peripherals. But the impulse to make it into something else, a lightweight computer that can stand in for a PC in the classroom, at a meeting, on the road, wherever, is strong. This is why iPad users have been buying keyboards to bypass the touchscreen, and finding apps that allow for rudimentary multitasking, printing, and remote access to one's home computer in order to use non-iPad-enabled software like Microsoft Word. The paradox of having designed the ultimate consumer device is that ultimately the consumers will make of it what they want-if Google, with its rumored Chrome Tablet, doesn't get there first. from http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2010/jun/08/what-ipad-cant-do/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Flex generative art???
Can anyone point out to me any interesting art projects that are Flex projects? Particularly what I'm looking for are simple projects that combine some of the benefits of Flex with the benefits of Flash concerning generative visual art. It's looking too much like a no fun zone at the mo. Any spice out there? Any fun? Is it all corporate solutions? ja? http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] problem with strongly typed actionscript
Here's my code which uses the SharedObject to implement a User Data Manager.
This is my first ActionScript of any usefulness.
ja
http://vispo.com
package
{
// This is for managing the user's state from session to session.
// This saves their preferences and current state.
import flash.net.SharedObject;
import flash.net.URLRequest;
import flash.net.navigateToURL;
public class UserDataMgr
{
protected var _version:String= 1.5;
// The version of this program. The string is included in
_userDataFilename.
protected var _userDataFileName:String = Main_ + _version;
// Customize this to set the name of the file stored on disk.
protected var _sharedObj:SharedObject;
public function UserDataMgr()
{
//The constructor of the UserDataMgr class.
readPrefs();
}
protected function readPrefs():void
{
// Called only by the constructor.
// At the end of this method, _sharedObj is valid or we've exited
// the program. It's either the previously stored info or, if
// none was found on disk, then it's default user data.
try {
_sharedObj = SharedObject.getLocal(_userDataFileName);
if (_sharedObj.size == 0)
{
// Then fill it with default data.
// This happens when the app is first run.
setDefaultUserData();
}
}
catch(e:Error) {
// Shared Object could not be created.
javaScriptPopUp(This program cannot run properly if you do not allow it
to save data to your hard disk. The program will now close.);
closeApp();
}
}
protected function closeApp():void
{
// Called by readPrefs.
// This is supposed to close the app.
// This probably doesn't work for AIR apps and who knows what other types
of Flash apps.
// This code should check to see if we're in an AIR app (etc), and act
accordingly.
// For more info, search CHC for 'close program'
var urlString:String = javascript:window.opener = self; self.close();;
var request:URLRequest = new URLRequest(urlString);
navigateToURL(request, _self);
}
protected function javaScriptPopUp(s:String):void
{
// Called by readPrefs.
// This opens a JavaScript pop up alert that displays s.
var arg:String=javascript:alert(\' + s + \')
var alert:URLRequest = new URLRequest(arg);
navigateToURL(alert, _self);
}
protected function setDefaultUserData():void
{
// Sets the default User Data in the SharedObject type.
setProperty(userId, testId);
setProperty(userNumbers, {one:Math.random(), two:Math.random()});
setProperty(bobo, 3.0);
}
public function setProperty(name:String, value:*):void
{
// Call this from outside the object to set a property.
_sharedObj.data[name]=value;
}
public function getProperty(name:String)
{
// Call this from outside the object to get a property.
return _sharedObj.data[name];
}
}
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[Flashcoders] problem with strongly typed actionscript
i want to write a method x which takes an argument y. i cannot anticipate
what type the argument is going to be until run-time. it might be a number
or a string or an array or who knows what?
but i am not sure how to do this in actionscript because it is strongly
typed. normally what is done is
public function x(y:String):void
{
}
but this won't do because y is limited to being of type String, whereas in
the method i want to write, the type of y is not known until run-time.
how do i do this in actionscript?
ja?
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Re: [Flashcoders] problem with strongly typed actionscript
Architecturally speaking, that's a bad idea. There's probably a strongly
typed
solution to what you're doing. Can you provide detail about what you need
to accomplish so we can help you figure out a better solution?
i expect
public function x(y:*):void
{
}
will do the job.
the public method is for an object that uses the sharedObject to implement
'flash cookies'. the method is to set an arbitrary property of the
sharedObject. so x would take two parameters. a property s and its value y.
and it sets s to y.
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Re: [Flashcoders] end of program event?
Saving state info to disk at the end of a program's run (so state can be resumed on later play) is about as standard an operation in programming as reading a value in to a variable. It's just so very commonly done. Therefore, there must be a very standard class for this sort of UserDataManager. The UserDataManager, on program start, checks for a prefs (short for 'preferences') or .sol (or whatever) file on the system (fills the RAM var with default values if no such file exists). On program termination, the UserDataManager writes the RAM prefs or .sol (or whatever) file to disk. And during the running of the program, other modules occassionally save prefs values in the RAM UserDataManager--in the SharedObject. Surely there is a free UserDataManager (or some such name) class that is commonly used as a template for reading and writing such info to disk in Flash projects? ja http://vispo.com - Original Message - From: Hans Wichman j.c.wich...@objectpainters.com To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 1:41 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] end of program event? Hi, if you use a localsharedobject it will flush automatically as the player quits. Intercepting the finalize/destroy etc is not possible I think. hth hans On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Glen Pike postmas...@glenpike.co.uk wrote: Hi, Not sure it this is any good, but try listening for the REMOVED_FROM_STAGE event in your document class? Failing that, you could setup some JavaScript to talk to Flash on the Window.unload event, but by then Flash could have gone... Hope this is some help.. Glen Jim Andrews wrote: I want to write text info to disk when the user quits the flash piece playing in the browser. Is there an event I listen to for the end of the program? What event? ja ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] prob with import mx.controls.Alert
I get an error, in Flash Builder 4, with the following line, which is part of an ActionScript project. import mx.controls.Alert; The error is 1172: Definition mx.controls:Alert could not be found. How do I fix this? ja? http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] problem with import mx.controls.Alert
Am I on the right list for a question like this? I get an error, in Flash Builder 4, with the following line, which is part of an ActionScript project. import mx.controls.Alert; The error is 1172: Definition mx.controls:Alert could not be found. How do I fix this? ja? http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] problem with import mx.controls.Alert
Thanks, Eric. So I guess none of the mx.controls are for Flash but, rather, are all for Flex? ja Make a Flex app - Alert is for Flex. Or make your own Alert class. I'm not sure if linking the Flex SWCs would work for an Alert or not. I get an error, in Flash Builder 4, with the following line, which is part of an ActionScript project. import mx.controls.Alert; The error is 1172: Definition mx.controls:Alert could not be found. How do I fix this? ja? http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] end of program event?
I want to write text info to disk when the user quits the flash piece playing in the browser. Is there an event I listen to for the end of the program? What event? ja ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Sound
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform/reference/actionscript/3/flash/media/Sound.html The above URL is the main page to acquaint yourself with concerning the Sound class in ActionScript 3.0, apparently. If you scroll through it, you'll see some example code. You'll also see the 'play' method under 'Public Methods' and, in the documentation of the 'play' method, you see that it takes a 'startTime' parameter. This one is what you use to start the sound not at the beginning of the Sound. The 'play' method, in Director, also can take an 'endTime' parameter, and there is a 'stop' method. Not in Flash, though. Also, in Director, there is an 'elapsedTime' property for the sound. Not in Flash, though. So if you want to end the sound before it ends, erm, I guess you have to use a timer to monitor where we are in the playing of the sound and then end the sound how? erm by using the 'close' method? Which also cancels any downloading. ja http://vispo.com Say I have a sound that lasts 1.7 seconds. Is there a way to control what plays - for example. if I want to start it .4 seconds in and stop it .2 seconds before the end ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] debugging Flash apps
I tend to use MonsterDebugger a lot. It is easy to debug stuff in almost any setting outside of mobile devices. I use that and a combo of trace statements and the IDE Debugger. http://www.demonsterdebugger.com/ Ktu I installed DeMonster debugger a while ago, and it seems great for run-time debugging. But I'm such a noobie at ActionScript that what I currently need are good compilation error texts--which the Flash IDE does offer, sometimes. I'm not quite at the stage where run-time debugging is an issue, so mired am I in the writing mechanics of compilable code in ActionScript. But the Flash IDE is just too slow to be anything but deadly dull concerning coding and debugging. So I think I will give FDT a try. And use DeMonster for run-time debugging, possibly, depending on how it stacks up against FDT run-time debugging. Many thanks for the suggestions. ja http://vispo.com ps: here is some generative art i did in director (shockwave): http://vispo.com/dbcinema/londonhypotrochoid http://vispo.com/dbcinema/newyork http://vispo.com/dbcinema/vancouver ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] fl.controls.NumericStepper
why does one need to put fl.controls.NumericStepper in the Library, rather than just have import fl.controls.NumericStepper; in the class code? ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] debugging Flash apps
I'm finding the debugger in the Flash IDE almost unusably slow. How do people debug their apps? And I've taken to using FlashDevelop for editing code because the editor in the Flash IDE is equally slow. ja ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] debugging Flash apps
Thanks, Steven. Does this require Eclipse? What flavour of Eclipse, if so? ja FDT. End of story. On 5/7/2010 2:46 PM, Jim Andrews wrote: I'm finding the debugger in the Flash IDE almost unusably slow. How do people debug their apps? And I've taken to using FlashDevelop for editing code because the editor in the Flash IDE is equally slow. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Of Meercats and Music: The Daxophonic Hans Reichel of Daxo.de
Here is a review I wrote ( http://netpoetic.com/2010/05/the-daxophonic-hans-reichel-of-daxo-de ) of a suite of 12 interactive audio Flash works at daxo.de by Hans Reichel. Hans Reichel (1949) is a German improvisational guitarist, experimental luthier, inventor, and type designer. So saith Wikipedia so you know the statement has passed many semi-clueless scrutinies to emerge supported, probably not without revision. But, yes, he is all that and more. The 'more' part includes creator-of-the-Flash-interactive-audio-visual-daxo.de, which we shall look at. Daxo.de is one of the best hypermedia works of its kind that I've experienced. ja ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Of Meercats and Music: The Daxophonic Hans Reichelof Daxo.de
Jim Andrews wrote: Here is a review I wrote ( http://netpoetic.com/2010/05/the-daxophonic-hans-reichel-of-daxo-de ) of a suite of 12 interactive audio Flash works at daxo.de by Hans Reichel. Henrik Anderson wrote: It's been a while since I have experienced such an unorganized mess of ideas and a lack of a clear point. I love it. Glad you liked it, but look out, Henrik. The more times you see it, the more sense it makes. The daxophone is famous for the voice-like sounds it makes. I gather that almost all of the audio was done with the various tongues of the daxophone. He has created an amazing chorus of stringed musical instruments that, together, 'speak' a very rich musical language that does indeed merit its own font. From Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daxophone ): The daxophone, invented by Hans Reichel, is a experimental musical instrument of the friction idiophones category. It consists of a thin wooden blade fixed in a wooden block (often attached to a tripod), which holds one or more contact microphones. Normally, it is played by bowing the free end, but it can also be struck or plucked, which propagates sound in the same way a ruler halfway off a table does.[1] These vibrations then continue to the wooden-block base, which in turn is amplified by the contact microphone(s) therein. A wide range of voice-like timbres can be produced, depending on the shape of the instrument, the type of wood, where it is bowed, and where along its length it is stopped with a separate block of wood (fretted on one side) called the dax. One of the reasons, I think, that daxo.de is so good is because Reichel is deeply familiar with the construction of interfaces with character, via his daxophones and their tongues. In part, daxo.de is a reflection on what's to keep and what to throw away in our notions of lively, engaging interfaces. ja ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] editing and debugging tools for ActionScript 3.0 projects?
I'm not sure if this is typical, but the ActionScript editor and also the debugger in Flash CS4 Professional, on my machine, are almost unusably slow. Do other people find this to be the case? On my machine, it might take ten seconds to step from one line to the next, even when there isn't much going on in the program, and editing the code takes five seconds for the cursor to appear in the code, and waiting to backspace takes several seconds, and the menus are very slow, and so on. So I would actually like to code and debug in some other environment than Flash CS4 Professional. What are my options? What editors and debuggers do you use? I'm using FlashDevelop for coding, and that seems good. Much much faster. But it's not integrated with a compiler/debugger. I see there is an Alpha version of flexdbg, which purports to be a debugger for FlashDevelop. Alpha?? How come all these Flash dev tools are all in Alpha?? ja? http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] editing and debugging tools for ActionScript3.0 projects?
I had installed and uninstalled the DeMonster bugger already. The Demonster debugger is good if you already have an SWF. But it doesn't work for simply compiling the SWF. Is there an alternative debugger for both compilation and run-time debugging? Or do we do the compilation debugging in the IDE and the run-time debugging in Demonster? Are other people experiencing the same incredible slowness of the Flash Pro CS4 IDE concerning script editing, script debugging, and even access to the menus in the IDE? What are the key things I can do to speed the Flash Pro CS$ IDE up a bit?? ja?? http://vispo.com - Original Message - From: Cor c...@chello.nl To: 'Flash Coders List' flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:34 AM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] editing and debugging tools for ActionScript3.0 projects? Try http://www.demonsterdebugger.com/features/howitworks HTH Cor -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Jim Andrews Sent: zondag 2 mei 2010 10:10 To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] editing and debugging tools for ActionScript 3.0 projects? I'm not sure if this is typical, but the ActionScript editor and also the debugger in Flash CS4 Professional, on my machine, are almost unusably slow. Do other people find this to be the case? On my machine, it might take ten seconds to step from one line to the next, even when there isn't much going on in the program, and editing the code takes five seconds for the cursor to appear in the code, and waiting to backspace takes several seconds, and the menus are very slow, and so on. So I would actually like to code and debug in some other environment than Flash CS4 Professional. What are my options? What editors and debuggers do you use? I'm using FlashDevelop for coding, and that seems good. Much much faster. But it's not integrated with a compiler/debugger. I see there is an Alpha version of flexdbg, which purports to be a debugger for FlashDevelop. Alpha?? How come all these Flash dev tools are all in Alpha?? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
html 5 has an audio api. you can play sounds. you can show controls like in a video. or not. now there's an honest audio api. no irrelevant things like being able to tell how far into the sound we are. or responsiveness to cue points. or being able to tell when a sound ends. no byteArray operations. or ability to get input from microphones. no notion of channels or mixing, panning, and so on. none of that fancy stuff. just a very simple, rudimentary, 1990ish audio api. now there's the future. perhaps html 7 will be really good. when will that be? ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
i see the html quake is not actually available to play in the browser. and game sound is fairly simple programming. at least in this game. html 5 has a very very basic audio api. it is not adequate for my purposes. in an ideal situation we would use open tools built to open standards. what developer wouldn't prefer that? but this time-based game of life is apparently much more complex than that. the existence of flash and other plugins is justified precisely because they offer many features that simply are not supported by html and won't be for many years to come. it is sometimes said that 'internet years' are like 'dog years'. but development of browser features doesn't seem like 'dog years' to me. give html 20 years and it'll be where flash is now. but where will flash be in 20 years? eclipsed by a newer tool with a code foundation better suited to the internet of the day? and the dev of flash itself moved to afghanistan, set up to fail? ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
i know you can load external mp3 files in flash, but is it possible to load a library (if that is the right term) of wav files in flash? the app i want to make involves loops, and mp3 files are not real good for loops. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
Sorry. I should have been more specific. What I'd like to do is create an external file that contains a bunch of wav files. Perhaps a bunch of such such groups of wav files. And then, at run-time, the user may select one of those groups of wav files. And then the program should download that particular file. Is that sort of thing supported in Flash? In Director, such groups of wav files (and/or other media) can be stored in .cst files and downloaded at run-time. ja http://vispo.com - Original Message - From: kennethkawam...@gmail.com To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files? If you are talking about sound imported into the Library in IDE, you can assign a Class name to it and instantiate it as normal: var snd:Sound = new LibaraySound(); snd.play(); ...etc. -- Kenneth Kawamoto http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/ On 29 April 2010 10:35, Jim Andrews j...@vispo.com wrote: i know you can load external mp3 files in flash, but is it possible to load a library (if that is the right term) of wav files in flash? the app i want to make involves loops, and mp3 files are not real good for loops. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
Aha. That'd be the ticket. Thanks very much, Glen. ja http://vispo.com - Original Message - From: Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:35 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files? Hi, You could compile the wav files into SWF's that you load as runtime libraries - then you could still instanciate your sounds the same way as Kenneth said. You have to use a Loader class load the external SWF in and wait for the Loader's INIT event before accessing library items. You may also have to set the Loader's application domain to the same as your application in order to instanciate the sounds: Search for runtime library in flash. Glen On 29/04/2010 12:25, Jim Andrews wrote: Sorry. I should have been more specific. What I'd like to do is create an external file that contains a bunch of wav files. Perhaps a bunch of such such groups of wav files. And then, at run-time, the user may select one of those groups of wav files. And then the program should download that particular file. Is that sort of thing supported in Flash? In Director, such groups of wav files (and/or other media) can be stored in .cst files and downloaded at run-time. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
If you create an mp3 in SoundBooth or Sound Forge and loop it, even in those environments, you see that simply creating an mp3 introduces some silence at the beginning and end of the file. Even if the mp3 was made from a perfectly gapless looping wav file, the mp3 will have a gap in it. Consequently, if one wants to use external mp3's in Flash (or any other program) things get a bit tricky. I've read a couple of good docs on this at http://blog.andre-michelle.com/2010/playback-mp3-loop-gapless/#more-590 http://www.compuphase.com/mp3/mp3loops.htm The first URL contains some excellent ActionScript code for gaplessly looping an mp3--as long as you know the total number of samples in the wav file from which the mp3 was made. This code was written by Andre Michelle, probably one of the main people who made http://audiotool.com , which is a very impressive Flash audio app. The second URL is very good also, but after investigating it quite a bit, my conclusion is Andre Michelle's code is the way to go if you want to gaplessly loop external mp3 sounds. But, again, this presupposes that you know the total number of samples in the wav from which the mp3 was made. A good alternative, which I haven't tried yet, is to create external SWF files that contain groups of wav files, let the user select which group they want to use, download the SWF, and use it as per Glen and Kenneth's suggestions in this thread. ja http://vispo.com ps: Here are some interesting online interactive audio apps: http://vispo.com/misc/ia.htm - Original Message - From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files? I would set it up using XML. I think the trick to loading MP3s and having them loop is to preload them. Then figure out how long till the sound plays and how long is left after the sound ends to the end of the track. Time your next song in line to start playing before the other ends at the right point to where the current ends the next in line has had time to get to the point where its sound starts. Then do a little DJing utilizing some kind of fade of the volumes. :) You could even have them overlap some to have that cross-fade effect. If anyone has a better suggestion, I am all ears as well. Best, Karl ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] gapless looping of external mp3's
That's basically what Andre Michelle is doing with his code at http://blog.andre-michelle.com/2010/playback-mp3-loop-gapless/#more-590 , Andrew. ja http://vispo.com - Original Message - From: Andrew Murphy amur...@delvinia.com To: 'Flash Coders List' flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:28 AM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] gapless looping of external mp3's This might work to achieve gapless looping: Once you've loaded the audio assets (an mp3 file, swf file library assets, etc.), copy the raw sound data into a ByteArray. Then to play it back you create a duplicate of that ByteArray and feed it to a new Sound object when it throws it's SampleDataEvent event. Once you've used up the ByteArray, duplicate it again and keep feeding it to the Sound object. I've been messing around with this, off and on, for a while to try and loop a simple sine wave audio data that I've generated. It works pretty well, except that I always get a little 'pop' whenever the next loop starts.. possibly because the phase of the end of the previous loop doesn't match the start of the next one. -- Andrew Murphy Interactive Media Developer amur...@delvinia.com Delvinia 370 King Street West, 5th Floor, Box 4 Toronto Canada M5V 1J9 P (416) 364-1455 ext. 232 F (416) 364-9830 W www.delvinia.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] libraries of wav files?
Coming a bit late to the conversation, but I did exactly that for some music education games. We had to have seamless playback of multiple audio files, and mp3 just doesn't cut it. I put my .aiff files into one Flash file, set the linkage, and downloaded the swf at run time. When the swf download was finished, I instantiated instances of the .aiff files. I can send you some code if you like (it's a little to long to post in a message). Cordially, Kerry Thompson Hi Kerry. Nice to see you in this forum! Sure, I'd appreciate the code. Thanks very much. Also, can you tell me why you're working with .aiff files rather than, say, .wav files? I have never worked with .aiff files. I don't know anything about them. How do they compare with .wav files? ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] letter from Steve Jobs on Flash
Does HTML 5 do anything about the basically non-existant audio API in HTML? I gather that the canvas tag was Apple's proposal. How does it compare with the graphical abilities of Flash or Director? Microsoft has not implemented the canvas tag. Is the canvas tag in the W3C HTML 5 spec? And how does the canvas tag compare with the ideas around SVG, which seems like a competing graphical API? In an ideal world, we could use 'open' tools with 'open' standards to create our apps. But what we have, instead, are corporations struggling with one another for business turf/markets. I've been a Director programmer for over ten years. Seeing what Adobe is doing with Director, I have no allegiance to Adobe. Eventually it will be Flash's turn to suffer the same fate. As go these big corporations and their products, so goes my work and your work? Then it's only a matter of time before it all becomes data trash. By no means an ideal situation any way you look at it. I was attracted to Director cuz I could do things with it that I couldn't do with any other tools. Flash is now the more popular and contemporary tool for doing these sorts of things. And it has equalled Director in various (though not all) ways. So I'm learning Flash. But I wonder if it'll all be data trash in twenty years. ja http://vispo.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] gapless looping of external mp3's
I'm new to the list. Does anyone have experience with gapless looping of external mp3's in Flash? I'm having probs with it. I read http://www.compuphase.com/mp3/mp3loops.htm . There's even a section in there about gapless looping in Flash. But I'm not sure how old that page is and if there are better methods now than what's described there. I have done some previous work with gapless looping, but it was all in Director, such as at http://vispo.com/nio and http://vispo.com/jig/arteroids . I'm just learning ActionScript now. ja ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
