Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 70, Issue 8
Le 15/02/2012 00:58, flightgear-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net a écrit : Hey Ant, You cite in your response the write of Clement, but it's wrong ! > The original author of basic XML animation for model is Emmanuel > Baranger The original author of instruments panel is Alexis Laille Absolutely and totally false! The first version, albeit a very simple, is my work. Alexis Laille has nothing to do with that! I have a habit of always (or almost) provide a minimum panel for "my" aircrafts before they are available online. "my" aircrafts: Not because they are mine, but simply because they are available in my hangar. > But here it's not the problem of "who is the author model". The > problem is => the minimum politeness is to ask to the PAF team if we > accept to see our contributions committed. It's the world upside down here. These people change and improve a project that I started alone. And it is me that must to ask permission. Many authors aircrafts will die laughing when they read that. Vivian, I'm sorry for that answer, but I can not really let write lies that implicate my credibility and my seriousness. It is sad to see these people try by all means to destroy and damage FG. But I know that everyone here will judge with intelligence and wisdom. Regards. Emmanuel -- BARANGER Emmanuel http://helijah.free.fr http://embaranger.free.fr -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml
On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 00:12 +0100, Erik Hofman wrote: > There should already be an Industrial texture available. I made one way back > that has been used for a while but was rendered unused when flightgear > switched to vmap0 only. Correction, there was once. It looks like someone cleaned out the Textures directory. Erik -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml
Erik Hofman wrote: > On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:30:37 + (UTC) > Martin Spott wrote: >> Emilian Huminiuc wrote: >> >> > If we're on the subject of materials*.xml: >> > 1. could Construction, Industrial, Port be split from Urban/BuiltUpCover >> > as >> > they are now in materials-dds.xml? >> >> I'd say "yes" - as soon as we have distinct textures for the different >> types. >> I don't think we need to have highly accurate textures for each of >> them. Just having different ones *now* is worth a lot more than having >> different _and_ accurate ones next year. > > There should already be an Industrial texture available. I made one > way back that has been used for a while but was rendered unused when > flightgear switched to vmap0 only. Mhhh: cray1: 9:52:11 ~/SCM/FlightGear/fgdata> find Textures* -iname \*indust\* cray1: 9:52:11 ~/SCM/FlightGear/fgdata> Even upon a closer look into the "Textures*/Terrain*/" directories I'm not sure which one you were having in mind. I'd propose to separate the various different land cover types into distinct materials wherever we have a distinct texture, no matter how neat and accurate the texture is, simply to make the land cover look more varying. Thus, if you're having textures covering some material which is currently still collapsed in one of the large 'pools' and which meet at least some basic requirements, I'd kindly ask you (everybody here, not just Erik) to go ahead and separate these types from the pool into their distinct material - and ignore any meta-discussion about the "right" (TM ;-) colouring Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml
Erik Hofman wrote: > Correction, there was once. It looks like someone cleaned out the > Textures directory. I hope this wasn't me I think the change should still be available in the history, thus reverting the commit should do it. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml
On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 09:57 +, Martin Spott wrote: > Erik Hofman wrote: > > > Correction, there was once. It looks like someone cleaned out the > > Textures directory. > > I hope this wasn't me I think the change should still be > available in the history, thus reverting the commit should do it. I don't know, it was 2002, 2003 era. I don't have high hopes git dates that far back. (Search my own backups now) Erik -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Re : Scenery web and scene models
Started playing with smarty... https://gitorious.org/~ffs/fg/ffs-sceneryweb pete -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml
Erik Hofman wrote: > On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 09:57 +, Martin Spott wrote: >> Erik Hofman wrote: >> >> > Correction, there was once. It looks like someone cleaned out the >> > Textures directory. >> >> I hope this wasn't me I think the change should still be >> available in the history, thus reverting the commit should do it. > > I don't know, it was 2002, 2003 era. I don't have high hopes git dates > that far back. (Search my own backups now) I'm running "pickaxe" on the GIT repo - will fetch the results in an hour or two when I'm getting back from the customer. The GIT history dates back to year 2k, I guess, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml
On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 10:13 +, Martin Spott wrote: > Erik Hofman wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 09:57 +, Martin Spott wrote: > >> Erik Hofman wrote: > >> > >> > Correction, there was once. It looks like someone cleaned out the > >> > Textures directory. > >> > >> I hope this wasn't me I think the change should still be > >> available in the history, thus reverting the commit should do it. > > > > I don't know, it was 2002, 2003 era. I don't have high hopes git dates > > that far back. (Search my own backups now) > > I'm running "pickaxe" on the GIT repo - will fetch the results in an > hour or two when I'm getting back from the customer. The GIT history > dates back to year 2k, I guess, Ah found a backup of all base packages (your own repository by any chance?): ftp://ftp.de.flightgear.org/pub/fgfs/Shared/ Erik -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Martin Spott wrote: > I'm running "pickaxe" on the GIT repo - will fetch the results in an > hour or two when I'm getting back from the customer. The GIT history > dates back to year 2k, I guess, I spent some time last night putting together a proper Port/Industrial material definition using the models under Models/Industrial and the object masking against the existing urban texture. It looks quite good, though due to the large building size there are some overlaps with adjoining scenery triangles - most noticably roads. (I need to make a further enhancement to object placement so objects aren't placed within of the edge of the triangle.) If you are able to retrieve the texture , I'll create an object mask for it and a material definition. Probably won't be until next week though. -Stuart -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml
On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 11:25 +0100, Erik Hofman wrote: > Ah found a backup of all base packages (your own repository by any > chance?): > ftp://ftp.de.flightgear.org/pub/fgfs/Shared/ And even further back :) ftp://ftp.de.flightgear.org/pub/fgfs/Shared/ Erik -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml
On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 11:44 +0100, Erik Hofman wrote: > On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 11:25 +0100, Erik Hofman wrote: > > > Ah found a backup of all base packages (your own repository by any > > chance?): > > ftp://ftp.de.flightgear.org/pub/fgfs/Shared/ > > And even further back :) > ftp://ftp.de.flightgear.org/pub/fgfs/Shared/ euh: http://ftp.linux.kiev.ua/pub/fgfs/Everything-0.7/Base-Packages/ Erik -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml
Erik Hofman wrote: > On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 11:44 +0100, Erik Hofman wrote: >> And even further back :) >> ftp://ftp.de.flightgear.org/pub/fgfs/Shared/ > > euh: http://ftp.linux.kiev.ua/pub/fgfs/Everything-0.7/Base-Packages/ Even slightly further (I think both sites are just RSYNC-Mirrors of the same master): ftp://ftp.de.flightgear.org/pub/fgfs/Everything-0.0-0.6/Base-Packages/ Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Martin Spott wrote: > Even slightly further (I think both sites are just RSYNC-Mirrors of the > same master): > > ftp://ftp.de.flightgear.org/pub/fgfs/Everything-0.0-0.6/Base-Packages/ Project archaeology! Anyone want to try compiling it to see how far we've come in the last 10 years :) Might make a nice newsletter/website article. -Stuart -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml
On Wed, 2012-02-15 at 10:27 +, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > I spent some time last night putting together a proper Port/Industrial > material definition using the models under Models/Industrial and the > object masking against the existing urban texture. It looks quite good, > though due to the large building size there are some overlaps with > adjoining scenery triangles - most noticably roads. > > (I need to make a further enhancement to object placement so objects > aren't placed within of the edge of the triangle.) > > If you are able to retrieve the texture , I'll create an object mask for it > and a material definition. Probably won't be until next week though. Ah it was there all along; it's the city2.png texture in Textures.high/Terain! When combined with city1.png and city3.png it created quite a decent industrial area. Erik -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Projection system question
Hi. Two things: First, keep us posted of your progress :) I am also working on simulator stuff at our aviation club, so this kind of stuff is interesting to follow. Another thing that comes to my mind is a spherical door projection example I remember seeing on README.multiscreen (or it was one other file in the docs/ dir in flightgear sources) - Did you check that example out, did it not do what you needed? Unfortunately I am also just looking into all this, so I cannot be of more help, but I remember trying that one, and it warped the display to a circle and the perspective was all curved, so maybe it could be something useful? Anyway, thanks for posting the link, that kind of setup looks very interesting, given it uses just one projector. Might work for us also.. /Tuomas On 12.2.2012 22:59 Roy Caligan wrote: Hi everyone, I've been speaking with some of the folks on the FG forum about a problem I'm having, and I was recommended to contact this group for some possible help. I'm trying to build a sim using Paul Bourke's projection method. Simply put, you can achieve an immersive, 180+ degree field-of-view using a single projector, a hemispherical mirror, and any geometry screen your wish (it could be a dome, a cylinder, or walls and a ceiling). You can get more details in his papers: http://paulbourke.net/papers/jmm/jmm.pdf http://paulbourke.net/papers/cgat09b/ Paul was kind enough to share his code libraries with me that make this work. The problem, however, is that the code is written in C and uses the features of OpenGL, not OSG. Here they are: domelib.h: http://codepad.org/i2EaRFsz domelib.c: http://codepad.org/42EVHWo4 I'm not a programmer, so I have no idea if upgrading the code to use C++ and OSG is difficult or not. I'm also not trying to replicate his process exactly. His method uses four different views to get a 180-degree field of view in all directions. When flying, horizontal field of view is much more important than vertical. I'd like to get a 210-degree horizontal field of view and about a 118-degree vertical (that's a 16:9 image). This isn't just for home use, by the way. I plan on using this setup at a flight school here and seeing how well it works as a training aid. Here's an experimental camera group I've developed to get the "look" I want (I'm not sure if it's useful for this discussion or not): http://codepad.org/zGfzR79D Any help or advice the community can give me will be greatly appreciated! Also, if I can help in some way, please let me know. As I said, I'm not a programmer, but I am a flight instructor and part-time aviation faculty. So if I can help with things like training, human factors, or simulator fidelity, I'll help as much as I can. Finally, I know you folks are busy with the new build. If this is a bad time, I can ask again after the release date. Thanks in advance! Roy -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Projection system question
I intended to say "Spherical *dome* projection example" but my phone knew better and autocorrected.. /T On 15.2.2012 15:35 tuomas.kuosma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Two things: First, keep us posted of your progress :) I am also working on simulator stuff at our aviation club, so this kind of stuff is interesting to follow. Another thing that comes to my mind is a spherical door projection example I remember seeing on README.multiscreen (or it was one other file in the docs/ dir in flightgear sources) - Did you check that example out, did it not do what you needed? Unfortunately I am also just looking into all this, so I cannot be of more help, but I remember trying that one, and it warped the display to a circle and the perspective was all curved, so maybe it could be something useful? Anyway, thanks for posting the link, that kind of setup looks very interesting, given it uses just one projector. Might work for us also.. /Tuomas On 12.2.2012 22:59 Roy Caligan wrote: Hi everyone, I've been speaking with some of the folks on the FG forum about a problem I'm having, and I was recommended to contact this group for some possible help. I'm trying to build a sim using Paul Bourke's projection method. Simply put, you can achieve an immersive, 180+ degree field-of-view using a single projector, a hemispherical mirror, and any geometry screen your wish (it could be a dome, a cylinder, or walls and a ceiling). You can get more details in his papers: http://paulbourke.net/papers/jmm/jmm.pdf http://paulbourke.net/papers/cgat09b/ Paul was kind enough to share his code libraries with me that make this work. The problem, however, is that the code is written in C and uses the features of OpenGL, not OSG. Here they are: domelib.h: http://codepad.org/i2EaRFsz domelib.c: http://codepad.org/42EVHWo4 I'm not a programmer, so I have no idea if upgrading the code to use C++ and OSG is difficult or not. I'm also not trying to replicate his process exactly. His method uses four different views to get a 180-degree field of view in all directions. When flying, horizontal field of view is much more important than vertical. I'd like to get a 210-degree horizontal field of view and about a 118-degree vertical (that's a 16:9 image). This isn't just for home use, by the way. I plan on using this setup at a flight school here and seeing how well it works as a training aid. Here's an experimental camera group I've developed to get the "look" I want (I'm not sure if it's useful for this discussion or not): http://codepad.org/zGfzR79D Any help or advice the community can give me will be greatly appreciated! Also, if I can help in some way, please let me know. As I said, I'm not a programmer, but I am a flight instructor and part-time aviation faculty. So if I can help with things like training, human factors, or simulator fidelity, I'll help as much as I can. Finally, I know you folks are busy with the new build. If this is a bad time, I can ask again after the release date. Thanks in advance! Roy -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Scenery web and scene models
Pedro Morgan wrote: > would it be possible to "dump" the fgs_* tables and made available as a > tarball... I'm not too enthusiastic about making DB dumps publicly available, but as an additional illustration to the table structure here's an example SQL script to add a model and the corresponding position. "mo_modelfile" is a BASE64-encoded, GNUzip'ed TAR file containing _everything_ which belongs to a model (XML, AC3D, textures), "mo_thumbfile" is a BASE64-encoded JPEG. http://mapserver.flightgear.org/dl/2454.sql.gz Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Scenery web and scene models
Pedro Morgan wrote: > Have you considered Smarty templating (am biased as am a developer) Most of the code which now makes the "Scenemodels" web site had been written more than seven (!) years before now and, as far as I can tell, functionality was the foremost obligation, not elegance ;-) That's not an excuse, but maybe at least an explanation. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Re : Scenery web and scene models
Pedro Morgan wrote: > So ive created a pyqt interface GUI, with an embedded "marblemap" map, and > would like to aquire data about scene models online via ajax.. so I can > splat on the map.. and being clever with which models are used where etc.. > > So the "full web interface" is not required really, merely a way to aqquire > the data machine to machine via ajax and preferably being able to page > by lat_lon and positions.. Ok, that's understod. Anyhow, the general problem which is linked to unfiltered DB access is the simple fact that it would make the DB vulnerable. The web frontend is a measure to defend us against jerks trying to suck the entire DB content over HTTP I have to admit that I don't have an 'easy' solution handy right now. > More info about the server and its state and limitations would be > appreciated.. Which information precisely are you looking for ? > afaik the scenemodels/ "web" is there completely, but am curious where the > $db* credentails come from.. , are there is a "pre preocessor" on php or > alike.. No preprocessor, the DB credentials are stored in a file which is included via an "auto_prepend_file" PHP directive in Apache. > Not quite sure what Sphere is, but the scenemodels is not in sphere? umm > where are images stored.. "sphere" is the nickname of a machine running the web-frontends for the FlightGear Scenemodels and MapServer web sites. The database itself resides on a separate, quite powerful machine. Every content, being it models of thumbnail images are stored as BASE64-encoded content in the DB. > is there a staging play server somewhere for the scenemodels web? Yep, the play server is the public web site :-) Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fair practice & autorisations
Am Sonntag, den 12.02.2012, 11:00 +0100 schrieb Erik Hofman: > So Emanuel has every right to dismiss any modifications on *his* model > and to update git accordingly. I agree he is the owner of the model, but he is not the owner of the FlightGear project. I see the aircraft name DC-3 as a placeholder owned by the FlightGear project and Emanuel modified it by adding data to it. So he is not the owner of the placeholder. What i want to say is, that it will get a community driven project nowhere if we have persons sitting there refusing commits from others only because they have personal issues with them or because they were the ones that started an aircraft at first place. Refusing commits is only acceptable if the data is not GPL, a copyright violation or a degradation of the existing data. And it won't help the whole project if we have 1...n different DC-3 aircrafts on git and everyone is doing his own thing. So there is one DC-3 starting out as a placeholder owned by the FlightGear projet and individuals should learn to work together and improve the placeholder. If persons do not comply on working together on a single aircraft then i suggest to remove the existing aircraft data completly. So that a willing group of volunteers that want to work together can start from the beginning So in other words, Emanual has every right to dismiss any modifications on *his* model but he has no right to refuse improvements of the FlightGear Project. And one aircraft is like a couple of lines of source code in the project. It would be horrible if programmers would say: "This is my function and no one is allowed to modify it, i will refuse any commit." In they case i get this mentioned conflict wrong you can ignore the above words. Best Regards, Oliver C. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fair practice & autorisations
The concept of ownership does not work well with GPL. /J 2012/2/15 kreuzritter2000 : > I agree he is the owner of the model, but he is not the owner of the > FlightGear project. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Re : Scenery web and scene models
Pedro Morgan wrote: > Actually can I ask some questions..and some feedback.. maybe.. One day I'll probably publish the Apache config as well. > 1) the server is using mod python and php ? Yes. > Also I assume there are a few mod reqrites on the server to make index.psp > appear as homepage.. No, that's just set via the DirectoryIndex directive. > 2) is there a platform "target" moving forwards ? > I guess not.. its an apache server.. rather than nginx I simply don't understand this question. > 3) everyone can play.. > I think what would be useful is to create a "scenery web" internationally, > so we can all share data somehow.. > > This means that I based in wales in Uk am only really interested in this > part, and could create new "objects" for "my space".. eg a scholl > ciriculum.. The primary intention of the Scenemodels repository is and has ever been from it's initial start to have a common repository which is collaboratively filled with the best scenery models we have for the entire world and which are 'compatible' with the GPL. I can't imagine why your local area ain't be a part of the World Scenery. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Re : Scenery web and scene models
Pedro Morgan wrote: > Can I make a suggestion;; > > To split the sceneryweb into two repositories.. > eg > fg-www-mapserver > fg-www-scenemodels "Scenemodels", the former "FlightGear Scenery Database" and the FlightGear MapServer had been starting as independent projects. We're now right in the middle of the process to merge these into a harmonized platform/repository for FlightGear Scenery ressources. Actually they both already run on the same Apache and the same database (just different tables, obviously), but on different HTML/PHP/Python code from different directories. > This is splitting the scenery data which is models and positions and > written in php > and the mapserver which is another caper... I don't see any benefit in keeping things separated. Please explain, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Re : Scenery web and scene models
Pedro Morgan wrote: > Guys take a look at this in php > http://flightgear.daffodil.uk.com/index.php Looks familiar, isn't this your proposal for a re-design of the main FlightGear site ? > So what it boils down to is the fact that all of us are working on > different tangents in php// and alike.. Yes, I guess so. Anyhow I think we've been driven by different motivation. Jon and myself had been hacking stuff together for getting at least a bare interface to the data up and running. Olivier has started doing some sane design on top Jon's core infrastructure. You Pedro have been setting up a neat site with lots of templated pages. Getting all the "bare interface" functionality reasonably integrated into the neat design without adding too many obscure dependencies is the challenge. And, as a requirement, Jon doesn't want to learn Python :-) > Lets face some facts in my local Area.. > In the south wales area and connection to english person > There are two bridges across the severn bridge.. > I would like the scene models for that.. Just go ahead, create all these models you have in mind and submit the result to Scenemodels, according to the published recommendations / guidelines. > So to acieve that we need a RO only version so we can see whats wrong, > [...] I disagree. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fair practice & autorisations
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:38:34 +0100 Jan Mattsson wrote: > The concept of ownership does not work well with GPL. What about maintainers? Who is the official maintainer of a 'placeholder'? -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Final 2.6.0 Release Preparations
> The FlightGear development team is happy to announce the v2.6.0 > release of FlightGear, the free, open-source flight simulator. This > new version contains many exciting new features, enhancements and > bugfixes. Major improvements from v2.4.0 include reduced AI aircraft > load times, easier graphics tuning, more sophisticated AI aircraft and > improved usability. > > Founded in 1997, FlightGear is developed by a worldwide group of > volunteers, brought together by a shared ambition to create the most > realistic flight simulator possible that is free to use, modify and > distribute. FlightGear is used all over the world by desktop flight > simulator enthusiasts, for research in Universities and for > interactive exhibits in museums. > > FlightGear features more than 400 aircraft, a worldwide scenery > database, detailed sky modelling, a flexible and open aircraft > modelling system, varied networking options, multiple display support, > a powerful scripting language and an open architecture. Best of all, > being open-source, the simulator is owned by the community and > everyone is encouraged to contribute. > > Download FlightGear V2.6.0 for free from http://www.flightgear.org. > > FlightGear - Fly Free! Thank you, Stuart! I just walked through the commit log since 2.4.0 and added some new lines to http://wiki.flightgear.org/Changelog_2.6.0 We will close the collection of changes in that document tomorrow (Thursday) evening (UTC). If anything is missing, please add the relevant changes in time. Those who offered a translation into their language are kindly requested to start. The official announcement of the new version should start this weekend if everything works as expected - keep your fingers crossed: there is still a good bunch of manual work involved in the process... Torsten -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Final 2.6.0 Release Preparations
ThorstenB wrote: > Every free, open source project is really driven by active community > _participation_, [...] I overly agree with the opinions presented by the two Thorsten's ! Aside from that I'd like to point out that I'm having mixed feelings concerning the prominent use of the term "community". According to my experience, those who are making the most frequent use of this term are either contributing just feature requests or, if they do _any_ real work, they are verbosely advertizing no "community" projects but instead just their private sand castles. What's a community ? I might be wrong, but at least according to my understanding a community is a group which is a) collaborating (important !) towards b) a comon goal. Now count the number of those who are really contributing to a _common_ effort and compare that to how affine these people are to the term "community" Have fun, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Final 2.6.0 Release Preparations
I would also like to put a call out for screen shots for the v2.6 release. What I'm looking for is an honest representation of FlightGear v2.6, but of course shown in the best light/angles/environment possible. I'm ok with images generated from pre-releases or release candidates. Obviously I need to steer clear of images that show development or testing features that are not yet available in the v2.6 release (project Rembrandt, some of the recent sky / fog shader stuff, etc.) That stuff is exciting, beautiful, promising, but not generally available yet so we shouldn't show it as part of the 2.6 release. Some thoughts / guidelines ... - As with past releases, I retain the right to select images from contributions based on my own tastes and perspective. - I imagine the quality of submissions will vary widely -- and I don't want to disappoint anyone if their pictures aren't used, but at the same time I want to encourage as many people to give it a shot and send me something. - There are probably some tips and hints on the wiki for taking good screenshots, but I can't find that right now. (Search only works well if you know what keywords to search for I guess.) - I would prefer not to receive collections of 50 or 100 shots. I'd prefer not to receive several very similar shots (send me the one you think is the best.) - Avoid shots that show some obvious artifact (near plane clipping of the cockpit, edges, obvious horizon discrepancies, etc.) - Try to avoid including the menu bar, or dialog boxes, or frame rate counters, etc. The images should be as clean as possible. - Screen shots from inside the cockpit are often the hardest to do well, but we need a few good ones. - Dimly lit (dusk/night) shots often seem like they would be cool, but they end up as a non-descript blob of darkness in a thumbnail or reduced resolution so no one will look at them -- often bright noon-ish shots work best. - But sunrise/sunset shots can also be very dramatic so a few of those are good too. - I'm looking for a variety, impress me! Gijs: where would be the best place to post this same call for pictures on the forum -- I looked around, but didn't want to get my hand slapped by the moderator for posting in the wrong spot. :-) BTW: "Community" -- if we can't have actual community, let's at least maintain the appearance of community. (That was supposed to be a joke.) :-) Thanks! Curt. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > > The FlightGear development team is happy to announce the v2.6.0 > > release of FlightGear, the free, open-source flight simulator. This > > new version contains many exciting new features, enhancements and > > bugfixes. Major improvements from v2.4.0 include reduced AI aircraft > > load times, easier graphics tuning, more sophisticated AI aircraft and > > improved usability. > > > > Founded in 1997, FlightGear is developed by a worldwide group of > > volunteers, brought together by a shared ambition to create the most > > realistic flight simulator possible that is free to use, modify and > > distribute. FlightGear is used all over the world by desktop flight > > simulator enthusiasts, for research in Universities and for > > interactive exhibits in museums. > > > > FlightGear features more than 400 aircraft, a worldwide scenery > > database, detailed sky modelling, a flexible and open aircraft > > modelling system, varied networking options, multiple display support, > > a powerful scripting language and an open architecture. Best of all, > > being open-source, the simulator is owned by the community and > > everyone is encouraged to contribute. > > > > Download FlightGear V2.6.0 for free from http://www.flightgear.org. > > > > FlightGear - Fly Free! > > Thank you, Stuart! > > I just walked through the commit log since 2.4.0 and added some new > lines to http://wiki.flightgear.org/Changelog_2.6.0 > We will close the collection of changes in that document tomorrow > (Thursday) evening (UTC). If anything is missing, please add the > relevant changes in time. > > Those who offered a translation into their language are kindly requested > to start. > > The official announcement of the new version should start this weekend > if everything works as expected - keep your fingers crossed: there is > still a good bunch of manual work involved in the process... > > Torsten > > > -- > Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning > Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing > also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > -- Curtis Olson: http://www.ati
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 70, Issue 8
Sorry, without any offense, I have to disagree in following points. >>The original author of instruments panel is Alexis Laille >Absolutely and totally false! The first version, albeit a very simple, >is my work. Alexis Laille has nothing to do with that! When he improves/ replace the panel, when he adds things to it, then he has something to do with it. Then this panel has multiple authors. You and him. >"my" aircrafts: Not because they are mine, but simply because they are >available in my hangar. When you put it on your homepage- as long it is under GNU GPL, others can use it and modify it as long they keep to GNU GPL. And when added to FGdata, it is available on a public server under GNU GPL, where it can be used and modified by everyone. >It's the world upside down here. These people change and improve a >project that I started alone. And it is me that must to ask permission. >Many authors aircrafts will die laughing when they read that. To make it clear: They created a fork or your work, which is permitted by the GNU GPL licence, and they can do what they want with this fork. Simply they just aren't happy what you did: let them contribute, insulted them when there was a disagreement, they decided to go on without you by creating a fork, and now they have to see that you take things from them. Legally right, as GNU GPL does not forbid that- but morally? Would it not be better to settle the source dispute, apologize for some hard words, and work together in peace? At least, that would be what real men, not kids, would do in such case! >It is sad to see these people try by all means to destroy and damage FG. I can't see that. -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fair practice & autorisations
Hello, >I agree he is the owner of the model, but he is not the owner of the >FlightGear project. I would disagree here in one point. >From my understanding of the law, he is just the owner = copyright-holder of >the parts he made (basic 3d-model, basic .xmls), but not the parts which had >been contributed by others (like the systems simulation etc. as listed by >Clement de l'Hamaide here). So not the owner of the whole model. There is just a rule in FGFS-project, (and maybe other OpenSource-Projects) that the starter of a sub-project is also the main-maintainer, and has the right to accept/ refuse contributions to it. You can accept this, or not. Anyway, being OpenSource you can create a fork and try to make the original source better. When the PAF-group decided to go on without Mr. BARANGER, they in fact created a fork of the DC3-Project. Which is allowed and a major part of OpenSource. GNU GPL allows that Mr. BARANGER can take use of things developed in the fork and port it over to his own project, and of course the PAF can do the same. But I must admit in this situation it has a bad taste and I can understand the dissapointment of Clement de l'Hamaide. >But here it's not the problem of "who is the author model". The problem >is => >the minimum politeness is to ask to the PAF team if we accept to >see our >contributions committed. >I know the GPL give the possibility to commit without asking anything but >>here we speak about "fair practice". vs >When you decide to download a package from a website and upload it on >your >website and GIT the minimum politeness is to ask to the author of >the >improvement if he's agreed with this isn't it ? Indeed GNU GPL allows comitting without asking. It does not care about politeness. So this action would be legally correct. But I have never seen before that GNU-compatible things which had been developed outside the usually FGFS-developement process - as an example new users creating a GNU-GPL compatible contribution to FGFS- had been committed to FGdata without asking the author before. I have never seen that Gijs, Durk, Curt etc. picked up any work and put I into FGdata without asking the authors before to do so. It would be legally correct what happened here, but I'm not sure if this is really how FGFS works. I would be at least also not happy if someone creates an AW139, use the parts of even the whole model in developement of my own work resting outside FG without asking me, put it into FGdata, but maybe even refuse to let me contribute to it. Though it would be legally correct, I would definitively not be happy! I do know: "Release early, release often", but it is difficult as long only a handfull of people has commit rights and you have to create merge requests to commit to your own work. In the whole discussion there had been some further statements which gives me some headaches: >When the team of the PAF has decided to prohibit access to their work to >me, they also requested the opportunity to put it on ILM. There are two possibilites to understand the meaning of this sentence, not sure which one is really correct: 1.) real prohibited access and that would be a violation of the GNU GPL-licence. A GNU GPL-work (and especially the Source Code) may never be prohibited in access to anyone! 2.) intended improvements was refused by the PAF-group for some reasons At least As I could follow the DC3-developement on the FGFS-forum and in the PAF-forum, I have never seen a prohibited access by the PAF to the DC3. The released downloads was available for all, and the developement process even readable without registration in their forum. No idea about 2.)... >If the team of the PAF not appreciate >the principle of respect of the original authors of the open source, >they go to make aircraft for FS X or X Plane. In addition, it can make >money Maybe I did understood this sentences wrong. But the GNU GPL licence does not say anything about respect. As long you do keep to the licence you already respected the original author. And as it is OpenSource other people can take the models and do what you want as long you keep to the licence. Even if you don't like it. Maybe the negative side of OpenSource. And yes, you can also make money with GNU GPL-work- it is allowed. > tired of seeing all these kids puerile want to use the work of > others, to obtain recognition as authors. Here, in this case it even indeed like that, that those "kids" made a manifold work with all those scripting, improvements etc., created a fork, and the project starter as not being part of this fork took, better said used their work and put into his own fork. I my eyes this action is nearly exactly what isn't liked in the statement above. And to describe a group of people in an age between 15-40 as kids is not very nice >And back on the 5 or 6 files with licensing issues in my airplanes is >ridiculous. ... B
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 70, Issue 9
Le 15/02/2012 19:38, flightgear-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net a écrit : > -- > > Message: 22 > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:30:51 +0100 > From: kreuzritter2000 > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fair practice& autorisations > To:flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID:<1329330651.1883.25.camel@blackbox> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > So in other words, Emanual has every right to dismiss any modifications > on *his* model but he has no right to refuse improvements of the > FlightGear Project. > And one aircraft is like a couple of lines of source code in the > project. Dear Oliver I think you misinterpreted that. I refuse nothing and besides, when I had access to the fantastic work of the PAF Team, I added it on GIT, albeit with some corrections and / or amended (with error may be possible ). This is the PAF team that refuses all. Besides, if they had taken the time to contact me all this would never happened. They seek only to discredit me in the eyes of all. I think I've proven myself many times and I have never refused any improvements for my aircraft hangar. Except, I confess, for JSBSim (and even if the work is good why I refuse, even JSBSim ). Look, additions and improvements by JC_SV for the A26 Invader and B25 lately. A lot of and those of other talented people for the Avro Arrow, Alphajet, Carreidas 160, C130 Hercules and I forget a lot. But this list is primarily a development list. I would like people who want me to do harm, do to other places. Of course Oliver, there is no question of you in this sentence :) Regards. Emmanuel -- BARANGER Emmanuel http://helijah.free.fr -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Final 2.6.0 Release Preparations
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:38:59 -0600 Curtis Olson wrote: > Obviously I need to steer clear of images that show development or testing > features that are not yet available in the v2.6 release What about custom scenery? Joe -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fair practice & autorisations
Should i remind everyone that this all is about open source and GPL v2 data. Some spirit that have already proved it's capacity and functionality. It's all about data that is contribute by different talented peoples from all around the world. It's all about little self made parts from each other that is proudly copied and glued together to make somethings. It's all about a bunch of enthousiast collaborating together. It's all about "thanks to ..."! Look back to your lovely GNU/Linux distribution. It doesn't matter from what it's has been derivate. Again, it's all about little parts of software, libs, graphics, technologies or whatever which made the final glued product. Without all the different talents who have contributed in the different areas, it would never have been what it actually is! I think some here are still failing to realise that! Our motto: L'union fait la force (Strength through Unity). Some contribution are of better quality as other. Sadly enough, we didn't all got a nice and powerful brain, nor the time, the right tools to get things done. It's still stuff achieved by multiples enthousiast who are strong together and probably useless when working alone in the dark. The particularity of open source and GPL stuff & and especially its spirit made in sort that this is organised in a way of pluggable things. It's all about little "components" developed by different enthusiasts. Instead of one big all-in-one closed thing which can't be interchanged. This way, you can easily dive into the data, adjust it to your taste, make use of other components. For some tasks, you can make the choice and select the component you want for that particular task. Again, it's work of others you make use of and if you can improve or fix some stuff by the way, you just provide it to them. It's all up to you to learn from the stuff others have left to your disposal. We all make experience thanks to those who left traces which can be studied! Even failures of other are interesting, at least you know the way you shouldn't take. FGFS isn't an exception to that. In such community, usually, never you will hear some claiming to be the author or owner of data that he haven't made. Even more, usually peoples in such community would call them a proud (main)contributor, package maintainer, upstream author or whatever that doesn't sound arrogant and inappropriate in the way that he monopolise or take illegally ownership of work done by others. Everyone who made somethings is the author of what he made. And nobody should take that over. Anyone who followed the DC3 story and all the mess it got in the run on the PAF forum [1], or those who didn't but took 2 minutes to watch these two videos Clement posted, or just tested the stuff would have see how the DC3 was and what is achieved by now. Just by watching it visuals, you can maybe imagine all the work behind this! And even then, not all work is shown there in! The initial state isn't comparable to what the state is right now! It's the product of some months of a bunch talented collaboration work there on the PAF forum. And that with the author that started the DC3 aircraft. A bunch of enthusiasts who worked all together to improve the aircraft. A group of enthousiast who finished the work of someone else! And in the run, faced to serious issues due some person lacking serious respect, insulting and abusing the open source and it's spirit. But also issues have happen on other very interesting development. A AC3D blender importer, exporter script, blender animation exporter. Or just other WIP aircrafts the PAF is working on... It's fabulous how one could make a mess, in an almost untracable way if you don't follow the mess in live time. It's easy to mix up conversations in different posts to cross the comments to make the story in your favour and make it non understandable by creating "holes" into the discussions for those who didn't followed. A good example is this thread on the devlist which is finally split into different posts! There's one that is seriously skilled and have nice techniques! I take note of them. I'm not the one claiming proudly on the irc that it's about a 2 days homework to get some cheap and basic 3D aircraft exterior model. And claiming one more day for the uv and texture work. Nor i'm the one claiming to setup and model the bare 3D exterior aircraft model and put some essential, but non-relevant and generic, instruments and let the other finish the aircraft! It has been proudly said multiple times. And i really trust these words. Nor i'm the one who create flame ware topic like "The aircraft of helijah are all empty" [2]. Any realist FG contributor know that even the research of instruments, systems, flight characteristics would have already take more as these 3 day of homework... It's in no way meaning that these contributors who almost finished the work should take the ownership (and they still didn't do). Nor that the "initial author" of the fin
[Flightgear-devel] Re : Final 2.6.0 Release Preparations
There you go for the French Translation. == L'équipe de développement de FlightGear a le plaisir d'annoncer la sortie de la version 2.6.0 de FlightGear, le simulateur de vol libre et gratuit. Cette nouvelle version contient de nombreuses et passionnantes nouvelles fonctionnalités. Les évolutions majeures par rapport à la version 2.4.0 comprennent des temps de chargement réduits pour les avions gérés par le système d'intelligence artificielle (avions qui deviennent également plus sophistiqués), des performances graphiques plus facilement personnalisables et une plus grande facilité d'utilisation. Créé en 1997, FlightGear est développé par un groupe de volontaires du monde entier, dont l'ambition commune est de créer le simulateur de vol le plus réaliste possible, libre d'utilisation, de modification et de distribution. FlightGear est utilisé dans le monde entier par des amateurs de simulation de vol, des unités de recherche dans les universités ou pour des expositions interactives dans des musées. FlightGear propose plus de 400 avions, une base de données de scènes mondiale, une modélisation détaillée du ciel, un système de modélisation ouvert pour les avions, différentes options de connectivité réseau, la prise en charge du multi- écrans, un langage de script puissant et une architecture ouverte. Encore mieux, étant libre, le simulateur est la propriété d'une communauté à laquelle chacun est encouragé à contribuer. Téléchargez FlightGear v2.6.0 gratuitement à partir de http://www.flightgear.org FlightGear - Le vol libre ! (you could keep FlightGear - Fly Free! as well). All the best for this weekend process. Oliver On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > Those who offered a translation into their language are kindly requested >to start. >-- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
