Re: FOP vs RenderX
I thought keep-together-with-next worked at the row level on .20.3. (W/o going into an endless loop like .20.2 did if the selected group of rows happened to span more than a page.) What is the final word on this? -Matt Patrick Andries wrote: To be frank, although I have the same experience as Matt as far as speed (or lack thereof) of XEP is concerned, XEP is pleasant to work with (more syntax checking) and does support many more features (among which the absolutely essential keep-with-next for any professional looking document). I hear often that this may not be available soon in FOP, what does this mean a month, two months ? Patrick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP vs RenderX
Search my threads a few months back. In my case XEP was 10 times slower than FOP. The RenderX guys looked at and said there was something weird about my tables. By most accounts RenderX and FOP should be about the same speed. I told them (RenderX) that if they could figure it out and XEP proved not to run out of memory the way FOP does we might still be interested in purchasing a number of licenses. They CEO of the company called me and tried to help, but I got the impression whey were all too busy to breathe--selling $5000/CPU licenses for a product that's inferior to something free. Arghh. -Matt Mark Bitz wrote: I was wondering if anybody had done any comparisons of FOP vs XEP (RenderX's engine). Or if anybody knows where I can find any such comparisons. RenderX took their comparison down off of their web site and I am trying to fend off a potential XEP solution in my company. I would rather use FOP and a comparison may be very helpful. Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems with keep-with-next
Isn't it true that keep-with-next is still only implemented for the table-row element? -Matt Stephen Bannasch wrote: keep-with-next still doesn't work on 0.20.3 I tried to add a comment to: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5434 but i couldn't figure out how (probably too late at night :-) Anyway there is a very simple test case here: http://concord.org/~stephen/fop-bugs/keep-with-next-bug.fo the testcase keep-with-next-bug.fo references the image: http://concord.org/~stephen/fop-bugs/ccprobe-interface-blockdiag.png The problem is very annoying when I have a figure with a title on one page and the image on the next. -- -s - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acrobat 5.0 Error
I can't really tell from this example, but I know I ran into an issue where I was trying to use a JSP page to generate either PDF or HTML. I finally realized I was getting an error when the output was PDF which was due to whitespace between the %% tags. The JSP engine compiles whitespace as System.out.println( ), which naturally doesn't agree with the byte array output stream Acrobat is expecting. I quickly switched back to a servlet. -Matt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Web site update request
Weird. I posted a reply to this thread that I see on my work account, but my home Earthlink account never picked it up. This is the second time I've seen this. Anyone else experience this problem? -Matt Keiron Liddle wrote: Sure. I'll change that. Is there any chance that you could get together all the information about viewing pdf through IE so that we don't have to go through it all again. On 2002.03.07 13:35 alex wrote: Pretty please can someone amend this page http://xml.apache.org/fop/faq.html on the website / xdocs in cvs (I don't have CVS access otherwise I'd do it myself, however I'm happy to learn how to do a diff if someone says they will apply it.) Please change For up to date information or more details please visit the Fop FAQ site. The site uses Jyve to provide an interactive FAQ: http://www.OWAL.co.uk:8090/ to this For up to date information or more details please visit the Fop FAQ site. http://www.OWAL.co.uk/cgi-bin/fopfaq.cgi Any problems with the FAQ itself or new answers for the FAQ should be mailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More general questions about FOP should be directed to one of the mailing lists. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Example extension
I've been told than an extension is the way to go for these two needed features: 1. Add a string ['(Continued)'] to a table header if the table spans multiple pages. Note these tables are part of the content and can start anywhere in the page. They could be seen more like paragraphs or blocks with a title. Any other solution to this problem is acceptable. 2. Separate page number display for a subsection. IE - master document is page 4 of 7, but subsection is page 2 of 3. Please let me know if I'm missing any existing functionality that solves these problems. I am planning to look into writing an extension some day. An example would certainly help. In the meantime, someone mentioned using iText for final stage add-on functionality like this. Does that make any sense here? Thanks a lot, Matt BTW, if anyone is in there poking around with the redesign, and feels like creating a table-add-something-different-to-header-after-break property, or even table-omit-header-before-break, I'd certainly love you for it. Keiron Liddle wrote: Hi, It really depends on what type of extension you want to do. This is an area that will change and become much easier in the future (in theory). Examples and help will be available for the new way of doing things. Could you tell us what you want your extension to do so that we have more ideas on what type of extensions people are thinking about. Then we can work out how they should be handled if possible. So to answer your question, there are some extensions but it really depends on what you want to do. On 2002.03.01 08:33 Adrian Edwards wrote: Hi fop-dev, Has anyone written a simple(ish) FOP extension that they would be willing to share with the list (or even just me) as an example? I'm talking full jar file here. The lack of examples (other than the quite complicated SVG extension) in the docs and on the mailing lists is quite frustrating. We don't have to go through the work of writing it up for publication (yet). Just seeing the mechanics of someone else's jar would be great for beginners. Thanks in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crazy question
Is there any way (clean, dirty or otherwise) to start a new page-sequence w/o a page break? I've managed to solve the FOP running-out-of-memory issue by starting a new page sequence every x-rows. It works beautifully. The only problem is that some of my reports don't have any natural page breaks that I can use to begin a new page-sequence at the XSLT level. I do have section breaks that I can use, but these sections could end one line into the page. I think this would look a little odd if I have to do it every 20 pages or so. Thanks a lot, Matt Savino - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do you use FOP instead of ...
Well since you said please and it is a sunny day (at least in LA)... Roland wrote: At 11:58 AM 2/1/02 -0800, you wrote: I've attached an XSLT stylesheet that we use to create a PDF version of a clinical trial participant's lab report. It uses some fairly Can you please send us an example of the generated pdf file? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LabReport.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clueless Newbie is lost!
The general path is to convert XML-FO via XSLT, then run FOP on the FO file. FO is XML, but it contains much more than just the data, so it ends up looking more like HTML. See the FOP examples. Hope I'm interpreting the problem right! -Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thierry, I guess I am so new to this that I don't know what you mean by formatting? I thought that XML was formatless (if that is a word), in that the DTD and the style sheets did all the formatting? This is just about the most simple example I could come up with that would render *something* in HTML. (Besides the quote is special to me.) I couldn't get a PDF version to work with any fop tool...most of the tools didn't work either. That is the problem. I would like to use the same code to generate HTML, PDF, and maybe another type of output that I could capture for the book, and show the student/readers the beauty of XML, write it once display it on many platforms. tim 1/29/02 5:42:10 AM, Thierry Gounelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi tim, I don't see any formating code in your post, just an xml source file. Could you be more precise. thierry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, I am writing a textbook on HTML, and want to include a chapter on XML. I am trying to get the following code (DocBook) to generate a PDF file. After a LONG struggle I managed to xsltproc to use my XML and get the HTML to render...but the PDF eludes me. Can y'all see anything wrong with the following code? When it is generated, by someone who knows what he is doing, the block quote stuff just disappears...the cite stuff renders just fine??? What I am trying to do is simply show my student/readers how XML can be used. I have spent over 70 hours trying different software to no avail. Ideas welcome! What I really need is a reliable tool-chain to take XML and generate HTML, PDF, and maybe one other format that I could capture and show the students. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance! tim ?xml version=1.0? !DOCTYPE article SYSTEM ./docbookx.dtd article titleThere and Back Again/title artheader author firstnameBilbo/firstname surnameBaggins/surname /author pubdateLong Ago/pubdate /artheader para abbrevLOTR/abbrev stands for Lord of the Rings. In this paragaraph we could discuss the intricate details of the construction of a most proper hole in the ground. /para bridgeheadNow, a wonderful quote!/bridgehead para blockquote There were many paths that lead up into those mountains, and many passes over them. But most of the paths were cheats and deceptions and lead nowhere or to bad ends; and most of the passes were infested by evil things and dreadful danger. citationPage 64 of citetitleThe Hobbit/citetitle by J. R. R. Tolkin/citation /blockquote /para /article - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project
Thanks Alex, point taken. I would love nothing more than to help with the redesign for the challenge and experience. I think FOP is a great project that the world needs yesterday. Unfortunately my company already has too much work for me and my clone, and there's no money in the budget for a third clone at this time. I'm sure you hear this sob story all the time. As far as paying some third-party to address performance concerns, do you think that would make sense before the redesign is completed? thx, -Matt alex wrote: At 03:37 25/01/02, Matt Savino wrote: Arved, thanks for the status update. Looking forward to .20.3, and would love to get a rough, non-binding idea when the redesign might be accomplished. If you ask this sort of question on any Apache project where Jon S Stevens is active you will usually get the response: It'll be ready when its ready. I get the impression that the redesign is at very early stages and therefore any kind of time estimate should not be relied on. The other response is Thanks for volunteering to help with the redesign :-) The one he doesn't usually give is Do you want to pay for some Java developers to work on Fop because I'm sure we can offer a support contract :-) There are a few companies willing to help enhance Fop if you pay them. Alex - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project
Actually I am willing to volunteer a few hours a week towards anything the group needs done. I know it's not much, but if there's some admin or minor programming task that no one wants to do, etc. Matt Savino wrote: Thanks Alex, point taken. I would love nothing more than to help with the redesign for the challenge and experience. I think FOP is a great project that the world needs yesterday. Unfortunately my company already has too much work for me and my clone, and there's no money in the budget for a third clone at this time. I'm sure you hear this sob story all the time. As far as paying some third-party to address performance concerns, do you think that would make sense before the redesign is completed? thx, -Matt alex wrote: At 03:37 25/01/02, Matt Savino wrote: Arved, thanks for the status update. Looking forward to .20.3, and would love to get a rough, non-binding idea when the redesign might be accomplished. If you ask this sort of question on any Apache project where Jon S Stevens is active you will usually get the response: It'll be ready when its ready. I get the impression that the redesign is at very early stages and therefore any kind of time estimate should not be relied on. The other response is Thanks for volunteering to help with the redesign :-) The one he doesn't usually give is Do you want to pay for some Java developers to work on Fop because I'm sure we can offer a support contract :-) There are a few companies willing to help enhance Fop if you pay them. Alex - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Choice of a XSL-Fo processor
Thanks Betty for filling in some of the blanks. (I was mixing up XEP and PassiveTex in a post I made earlier. I forgot XEP is RenderX.) I just had a couple of questions: Antenna House is Windows-only right? Do you think XEP's command line-driven approach would work within a J2EE internet application dynamically generating printable reports? Apparently the reason my developer couldn't find an API to XEP is that there is none. I'd rather avoid hassling with temp files and calling command line driven batch processes from within my application if I can avoid it. Thanks a lot for all your help. -Matt Betty Harvey wrote: Aurelien: I recently went through this exercise. I evaluated FOP, XEP and AntennaHouse. I didn't evaluate PassiveTex. I started putting together analysis sheet together of the different products but haven't completed it yet. For commercial projects I think both XEP and Antenna House work very well. XEP provided more of the functionality we required (internal and external linking and side navigation bar (extension to FO). Although I understand that Antenna House will have some of this functionality in the next release. However, you have to use a XSLT parser to create the FO file first. XEP is command-line driven. Another good feature of XEP and FOP is that it created the PDF and doesn't require Distiller. FOP also has a side-navigation bar extension. I liked Antenna Houses graphical user interface for the development of the XSL-FO. This is a nice development tool because you can see the results without creating a PDF file and opening the Reader to see the results. However, to create a PDF file you do need Distiller. I used the evaluation version of Antenna House recently to print training materials for a training class and I was very happy with the results. I originally created my XSL-FO file to work with XEP. I had one to change one attribute in the XSL file to get it to work with Antenna House (fo:page-sequence master-reference to fo:page-sequence master-name). I had to do major surgery to get it to work with FOP because of the unsupported features. Bottom line both XEP and Antenna House are good and seem very stable. If I get my analysis sheet completed I may post it if anyone is interested. Hope this helps. Betty On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, GISBERT Aurélien (DSIT-EX) wrote: I have to do a comparison between the different existing XSL-Fo processors. I focused on these ones: -FOP, Apache -XEP, RenderX -Antenna House XSL Processor -PassiveTeX Could you give me their good and bad parts? Who support them? What are the aims of each one about the XSL specification? Finally, is there any other good XSL-Fo processors? I understood that these 4 XSL-Fo processors were all compliant to the basic conformance level in the W3C recommendation, and also to some of the objects and properties of the extended level. I would like to have your opinions. I have to transform an XML document into a PDF file, using a specific model of presentation (first page, contents, headers, titles, ...) Regards --- Aurelien Gisbert Engineer student in the INSA of Lyon, France Internee in the SNCF, France (working with Alain Herbuel, in the DSIT-EX section) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project
Arved, thanks for the status update. Looking forward to .20.3, and would love to get a rough, non-binding idea when the redesign might be accomplished. FYI, here's what I gleaned from looking into the three alternate solutions you mentioned. I would love to hear more details/corrections from the experts on this board. Antenna House - Windows only, no good for us. XEP - needs TeX, not sure if I want to hassle with it or if it would ever fly w/our infrastructure guys RenderX - fits requirements. Someone else tested it but said he couldn't get access to the API from demo--only batch mode. I've heard anecdotal evidence that it is no faster than FOP. Would love to hear more from anyone else w/firsthand experience. I'll try get it set up to benchmark large reports in batch mode if I get a chance. I have another guy looking into faceless as a possible solution for generating PDFs of very large, relatively simple reports. I'd love to stay within xsl:fo though. Thanks for all your hard work, Matt Savino Arved Sandstrom wrote: Hi, Pete I think that it would be most accurate to say that there is a relatively stable core of features - the feedback on this list has been that people do indeed use FOP, and reliably so, in production. But there are definitely limitations - both lack of some XSL-FO features and also issues related to memory. We are not where we would like to be, despite some significant personal efforts. I don't count myself in that latter group, not for the past half year certainly, as I have been sidelined by real work. I think Keiron Liddle or Karen Lease would be best able to comment on where we FOP is headed. I think, based on your problem description, that you may very well find that FOP suits your needs even in its current state. For a certain set of problems I would not necessarily describe FOP as being beta at all. Others will likely comment. I might add that because of the Apache license your development teams would be able to freely modify and improve the source. For x.yy.z, x == 0 just means FOP hasn't achieved our first major target: full feature support at nearly Extemded Conformance, with performance enhancements. With that in mind, we advance yy every few months as relatively significant new features are introduced. 'z' represents sets of bug-fixes and minor enhancements. We are currently at 0.20.3rc, and should upgrade to 0.20.3 in less than a week. Bertrand Delacretaz is working on JFOR integration - I am sure he will have more to say. If extensive feature support (XSL-FO compliance) is the _primary_ concern, I think you'd not go wrong in looking at either RenderX XEP or Antenna House XSL Formatter. I can't comment on the price. Expect other comments. :-) Regards, Arved Sandstrom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 24, 2002 7:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Seeking Comments on Status of Project First off, thank you for what looks like a fantastic effort. I admire (and am envious of) each of you who have found the time to contribute to such a valuable project. I am involved with the approval process for bringing new technology into our company. We have several development groups who have seen the FOP engine and would like to include it their applications. The requirements are pretty much the same across applications. They need to generate lots of short dynamic documents in PDF (lots=500-1000 per day, short=1-20 pages, mostly text, some tables). Some of the applications need to support unicode or double-byte languages. On the surface, I agree that FOP looks like the right answer for what they need. However, I also need to ensure that we follow our guidelines for technology acquisition. One of our primary tenets is no beta software should be included in production applications. I have read through many posts in the mail list and appreciate the honesty and clarity about the current status. Back in January of 2001 and again in July 2001, Arved Sandstrom pointed out that FOP is still a development effort. With this message, I am hoping I can persuade one of the committers to provide a January 2002 update on the status. I have found the occasional status messages very useful, hopefully any response to this message on the archive will help others in the future. Here is a snippet from the July 2001 post by Arved: FOP developers and committers have never suggested that the processor is anything other than a work in progress. My best guess is that if we have a production release by the end of the year then we'll be doing well. Alpha is a long ways away. Is this still the case? I am making an assumption that the version number speaks to the status (v0.x is pre-release). Is the version numbering a reflection of: A. Still early in development B. Indication of how completely the XSL:FO spec is implemented
Re: Table layout
will do Christian Geisert wrote: Matt Savino wrote: Right now keep-with-next at the row level is the only thing that works. But if you have more rows than can fit on a page, FOP goes into an endless loop. This issue isn't adressed at all in the upocoming maintenance release is it? It is adressed .. and you hereby voluntered to test the forthcoming release candidate ;-) Christian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Table layout
Right now keep-with-next at the row level is the only thing that works. But if you have more rows than can fit on a page, FOP goes into an endless loop. This issue isn't adressed at all in the upocoming maintenance release is it? Phillips Tony wrote: Thanks, still can't seem to get it going - looking at bugzilla report 3044 suggest this isn't working at the moment, anybody succeeded in using keep-together? thanks Tony -Original Message- From: Sergei Timofejev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 January 2002 13:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Table layout keep-togather=always E-MAIL DISCLAIMER The information in this e-mail and any attachment is confidential. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not a named recipient please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person or take copies. Although Axxia Systems has taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been checked for viruses, it is strongly recommended that you carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment, as we cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of software virus infection. Axxia Systems reserves the right and senders of messages shall be taken to consent to the monitoring and recording of e-mails addressed to axxia.com. *** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can i optimize memory consumtion?
Try breaking your document into multiple page-sequences. Luigi Savini wrote: I need to produce a very large PDF document (about 1300 pages!), no images, just plain text. I set JVM memory parameters (Xms and Xmx) but i can't process this document anyway. Did anyone try to modify sources writing pages to the output stream immediatly instead of buffering them into memory? Luigi_ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: FOP-XSL:dynamic external graphics
My problem is that I need to change the filepath between environments.
(NT and Unix). In all of my Java/JSP code I use an environment-level
(Weblogic domain-level) properties file for any values that must change
from across environments and which I haven't figured out a way to get by
with something relative (IE - absolute URL prefix for HTTPS redirects,
absolute filepath to the XSLT stylesheets, etc.).
The problem is I have no idea how to get Xalan to read properties from
this file, or in any way be aware of it's own context. So I manually
change the image source path everytime I upload a build to the Unix box.
Not a big deal for me right now since I only have one image in all of my
reports. But I imagine it could be a pain if you had a lot more.
-Matt
Beer, Christian wrote:
Hello!!
Well, try this one:
fo:external-graphic src={$filepathValue} /
{ and } are kind of escape-chars, that tell xalan to process their
content.
You can also do this, I think, if you only need the filename one time.
fo:external-graphic
src={concat('file:../default/tra-app/images/',client/id,'logo.gif')} /
Greetz
Christian
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Rachael Blank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Januar 2002 18:46
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: FOP-XSL:dynamic external graphics
Hello and thanks in advance for your help!
Is there a way I can dynamically display images based on an xml tag that
I am given?
I receive the following xml:
client
id/id
...
/client
I currently have the following uri specification and it works:
fo:external-graphic src=file:../default/tra-app/images/chclogo.gif/
I need the image name (chclogo.gif) to change depending on the
clientida number/id/client that I receive in the xml.
I thought something like this would work:
fo:table-cell
fo:block
white-space-collapse=true
xsl:variable name=filepathValue
select=concat('file:../default/tra-app/images/',client/id,'logo.gif')
/
fo:external-graphic src=$filepathValue /
xsl:value-of select=$filepathValue /!--Error checking--
/fo:block
/fo:table-cell
I am receiving the following error with the above code:
Error while creating area : Invalid Image URL - error on relative URL :
java.lang.NullPointerException
I am sure that I have the correct path (because the $filepathValue
displays correctly on the screen via my value-of select statement), but
I am thinking it is not possible to pass a variable into the src element
of the fo:external-graphic statement. I also made sure this image is
correctly named and in the appropriate directory.
Any thoughts or alternatives, anyone?
Thanks!
Rachael
Can I
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Re: conditional characters?
I've been meddling on this board for several months now and this has to be the 5-6th time that some variation of this problem has come up. (In my case I need to put the word 'Continued' in every instance of a table header that occurs after the first page break.) It still amazes me that with all the things they DID think of in the FO spec, this case is not addressed. Maybe they wanted to leave this as a nice juicy extension out there for the implementation guys. Anyway, I'm getting ready to start on my 'Continued' extension within the next few weeks, promise. If I can pull it off, I'll be sure to post it to the board. I also need to work on functionality for a sub-section within the main document that has it's own page numbering scheme. I haven't had time to look into the FO extenisions offered by any of FOP's closed-source competitors, but I'd be interested to see if any of them cover these issues. -Matt Bodo Teichmann wrote: Hi, is there any way to make a specific character conditional, if some condition such as a formater generated line break occurs, or something like the *opposite* of suppress-at-line-break ? So what im trying to do is to specify possibe hyphenation points for words directly in the xsl:fo file. (and not in the UserAgent) Any ideas? Bodo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with seeing pdf-files in IE 5.0
All my urls are .jsp and I don't have a problem with IE 4-5-6 recognizing them as PDF--as long as I set the response contentType. I have a myriad of other problems with older verisons of IE, but this is not one of them. Cyril Rognon wrote: It has been reported many times that IE5.0 needs some strong mime type information : not only you must set the content-type HTTP header to application/pdf but you also have to use an url with .pdf at the end... Cyril Rognon At 14:05 07/12/2001 +0100, you wrote: I'm trying to see a pdf-report, created dinamically with an XML-XSL process. But if I try to see it with an IE 5.0, I see just a blank page with an icon. If I try it with an IE 5.5, I can see it with no problem. Why is it? And there is a solution, because I cannot change the browser to 5.5? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xsl:choice
Try xsl:choose. I'm available for consulting. Edward Dowgiallo wrote: I seem to be not getting the intended use of xsl:choice. The following stylesheet segment causes fop to terminate with the message: ...; Line 78 Column 25; [ERROR]: null fo:block font-family=Helvetica font-size=18pt text-align=end xsl:choice xsl:when test=//eraname xsl:value-of select=//eraname/ /xsl:when xsl:when test=//conflictname xsl:value-of select=//conflictname/ /xsl:when xsl:otherwise xsl:textHistory of the World/xsl:text /xsl:otherwise xsl:choice /fo:block 1st, a more verbose error message would be useful. 2nd, What I am trying to do is find out if the current element contains an element named eraname, if it does I want to use the value of the element eraname If it doesn't I want to check if the current element contains a child element named conflictname, if it does I want to use the value of the element conflictname. If it doesn't I want to slap in some boiler plate text. The xml file being processed when this fails does contain the child element eraname. I'd be more than happy to use a workaround here. Thank you, Ed - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xsl:choice
Sorry, I didn't read the bottom. You can only include one xsl:when as a child of xsl:choose. (There is no concept of a case switch or elsif in XSLT.) test=//eraname returns true if there is an element eraname anywhere in the document. To search only the children of the current node, take out the '//' part. To do what you want try this (anyone knows of a more elegant method, please chime in): fo:block font-family=Helvetica font-size=18pt text-align=end xsl:choose xsl:when test=eraname or conflictname xsl:choose xsl:when test=eraname xsl:value-of select=eraname/ /xsl:when xsl:otherwise xsl:value-of select=conflictname/ /xsl:otherwise /xsl:choose /xsl:when xsl:otherwise xsl:textHistory of the World/xsl:text /xsl:otherwise /xsl:choose /fo:block Edward Dowgiallo wrote: I seem to be not getting the intended use of xsl:choice. The following stylesheet segment causes fop to terminate with the message: ...; Line 78 Column 25; [ERROR]: null fo:block font-family=Helvetica font-size=18pt text-align=end xsl:choice xsl:when test=//eraname xsl:value-of select=//eraname/ /xsl:when xsl:when test=//conflictname xsl:value-of select=//conflictname/ /xsl:when xsl:otherwise xsl:textHistory of the World/xsl:text /xsl:otherwise xsl:choice /fo:block 1st, a more verbose error message would be useful. 2nd, What I am trying to do is find out if the current element contains an element named eraname, if it does I want to use the value of the element eraname If it doesn't I want to check if the current element contains a child element named conflictname, if it does I want to use the value of the element conflictname. If it doesn't I want to slap in some boiler plate text. The xml file being processed when this fails does contain the child element eraname. I'd be more than happy to use a workaround here. Thank you, Ed - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fo:external-graphic question
Ours is an SSL site. Like I wrote I just sue the absolute file path below. It works for all the Unix boxes. PDF imbeds the image anyway, rather than just linking to it and letting the browser server it up like HTML does. So you shouldn't see that secure-to-insecure error. Todd McGrath wrote: Will this work for SSL sites? I have servlets that produce images (graphs) and I'm try to include them in the generated PDFs. I wasn't sure that you could use relative path for src attribute? Since I wasn't able to get it working, I needed to create a separate site in order to use absolute path to servlets (example: http://localhost/Pie, where Pie is the graph producing servlet) Obviously, I would like to use relative so users do not see pop-up message about not secure Is anyone using FOP in SSL enabled sites with external-graphic that are not static filebased? Todd -Original Message- From: Max Froumentin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: fo:external-graphic question You wrote: If you want a relative URI, why not just use a relative URI? I.e., src=config/isappdev/applications/RVWebApp1/WEB-INF/lib/ClinTrialLogoGreenBi g.gif? Then the current protocol, host, and directory will be used as the base URI and the relative URI interpreted relative to that. And of course this should ideally be src=url(config/isappdev...) Max. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Line break in FO
fo:block/ Matthias Fischer wrote: How do I generate a line break, such as is generated by BR in HTML, in FO? Matthias Dott. Matthias Fischer abc.Mediaservice GmbH Nebelhornstraße 8 86807 Buchloe Tel. (08241) 9686-38 Fax (08241) 9686-26 http://www.abc-media.de e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ein Unternehmen der abc.Mediengruppe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: horizontal line won't print?
Thanks Maneshi. I tried leader but I couldn't seem to get it to come close enough to text above. There alway seems to be a several pixel gap no matter what settings I try. I think I've managed to get table-cell borders to do what I want. thx -Matt Maneshi Tuli wrote: For horizental line , i am using this code and it is working for me , u can try also , might be it help u fo:block space-after=5pt fo:leader leader-length=10.5in leader-pattern=rule rule-thickness=2pt color=green / /fo:block thanks Message History From: Matt Savino [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/13/2001 06:14 PM PST Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: horizontal line won't print? I've been using this constriction for the occasional horizontal line in my reports: fo:block text-align=center background-color=green space-before.optimum=4pt space-after.optimum=4pt line-height=1pt/fo:block I like it because it's independent of any table structures I insert it into. Problem is, while it looks fine in the PDF viewer, the line doesn't print. Also, no matter what I set the line-height to, it seems to come out 1pt. The only other way I know to get a horizontal line--that does print--is a table (or table-cell) border. Has anyone else seen this phenomenon, and does anyone know of an easy way to insert horizontal lines that show up in print? thanks a lot, Matt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
horizontal line won't print?
I've been using this constriction for the occasional horizontal line in my reports: fo:block text-align=center background-color=green space-before.optimum=4pt space-after.optimum=4pt line-height=1pt/fo:block I like it because it's independent of any table structures I insert it into. Problem is, while it looks fine in the PDF viewer, the line doesn't print. Also, no matter what I set the line-height to, it seems to come out 1pt. The only other way I know to get a horizontal line--that does print--is a table (or table-cell) border. Has anyone else seen this phenomenon, and does anyone know of an easy way to insert horizontal lines that show up in print? thanks a lot, Matt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP: Critical Problem
I work for a giant healthcare company, and it's still hard for me to imagine how the data comes from --somewhere-- then is inserted into an fo: document with no chance for any text manipulation. Not saying I don't believe it, Id just love to hear the situation. So what about some kind of quick n' dirty little extension to do the work until linespace-treatment=preserve is implemented. (Is it in the plans to attempt to implement everything in the FO spec?) I haven't started on my table-header with (Cont) extension yet, but when I do I'll let the group know how it goes. Arved Sandstrom wrote: At 09:52 AM 11/2/01 -0800, you wrote: Our application also needs linefeeds preserved in certain cases. We convert them at the stylesheet level. Here's how we do it: [ SNIP ] Like I said, I have no idea if you're even using stylesheets. I have a feeling if you're talking with Arved, this avenue has already been explored. But I figured I'd throw it out there just in case. By the way if anyone knows of a slicker method to do what I'm doing above (ie some sort of Perl-style replace, or Java-style string tokenizer functionality), please chime in. This possibility, or something essentially similar, came up. That is, I suggested a workaround. Rachael explained the production scenario, and it appears to make sense to me that extra processing of the content before it gets to the formatter is not acceptable. So unless something has changed we are definitely talking about source code changes. I did Rachael a disservice by underestimating the scope of the fix (I looked at the FOP code and started working on this, and it wasn't so straightforward) and overestimating the amount of time I had available to do something about it. Work at my last company was pretty crazy for a lot of this year, and I should have taken that into account, and I apologize for being naively optimistic. In any case that last company has now folded and at the moment I am _not_ in a position to assist. :-) Regards, Arved Sandstrom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP: Critical Problem
on the fly with JSP. (Up until this point I am not involved in development) I am on the Web GUI side where I create stylesheets that enable the physician to edit, view a read only copy and/or print a final PDF copy of the document. We also offer a batch printing, sorting and searching capabilities. After a certain period of time specified by the client, we archive the data and can do very detailed and advanced analysis for the client. We would sincerely appreciate any more help with this issue. It would be a terrible shame for us and FOP for the project to go BUST. Thanks again! Rachael Matt Savino wrote: I work for a giant healthcare company, and it's still hard for me to imagine how the data comes from --somewhere-- then is inserted into an fo: document with no chance for any text manipulation. Not saying I don't believe it, Id just love to hear the situation. So what about some kind of quick n' dirty little extension to do the work until linespace-treatment=preserve is implemented. (Is it in the plans to attempt to implement everything in the FO spec?) I haven't started on my table-header with (Cont) extension yet, but when I do I'll let the group know how it goes. Arved Sandstrom wrote: At 09:52 AM 11/2/01 -0800, you wrote: Our application also needs linefeeds preserved in certain cases. We convert them at the stylesheet level. Here's how we do it: [ SNIP ] Like I said, I have no idea if you're even using stylesheets. I have a feeling if you're talking with Arved, this avenue has already been explored. But I figured I'd throw it out there just in case. By the way if anyone knows of a slicker method to do what I'm doing above (ie some sort of Perl-style replace, or Java-style string tokenizer functionality), please chime in. This possibility, or something essentially similar, came up. That is, I suggested a workaround. Rachael explained the production scenario, and it appears to make sense to me that extra processing of the content before it gets to the formatter is not acceptable. So unless something has changed we are definitely talking about source code changes. I did Rachael a disservice by underestimating the scope of the fix (I looked at the FOP code and started working on this, and it wasn't so straightforward) and overestimating the amount of time I had available to do something about it. Work at my last company was pretty crazy for a lot of this year, and I should have taken that into account, and I apologize for being naively optimistic. In any case that last company has now folded and at the moment I am _not_ in a position to assist. :-) Regards, Arved Sandstrom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: table-header with (Con't)
So how hard do you think it would be for a realtive FOP-newbie to write some kind of extension? I'm thinking of a few possible hacks: 1) Somehow implement the inverse of table-omit-header-at-break. Then I could specify the 'xxx Continued' piece as the header and simply print xxx as the first row of the table. 2) Add some facility for specifying a different header for every occurrence after the first. I'd be happy with hard-coding the word Continued if it was the only easy way. Any other clever ideas? How hard is it to just stick something like this in? It seems to me that with all the page-aware capabilites of FOP (header, static content, keep-together, page-number, widows, orphans etc.) there ought to be a sneaky way to piggy back this functionality onto one of them. Just to be clear, here's what I'm talking about: My Page Header -- other stuff -- My Table Header row1 row2 row3 -- new page -- My Page Header My Table Header (Continued) row4 row5 row6 The block in question doesn't necessarily have to be a table, but it can't be part of static content. It's nested inside two tables already, one has a header of varying length (so it can't be part of the static content). Like I said, I have no idea how hard it is to go poking around in FOP. I know enough about PDF to know that I want to stay at the highest level possible (that's I think somehow suppressing the table header on the first occurrence may be the best way for me to go). Thanks in advance for any ideas. -Matt Arved Sandstrom wrote: At 09:33 PM 10/24/01 -0400, Matt Savino wrote: Jim, I'm doing the same thing with my report. Add a different last-page id block at the end of each section ( fo:block id=last-csr-page/fo:block) You'll also have to start a new master-page-sequence with each section and set the initial page number to 1. I assume you mean new page-sequence. You can re-use simple-page-masters and page-sequence-masters all you like. Now if we can just figure out how to get (Continued) into a table header! I've been trying to come up with some clever way to change the header on the fly or use table-omit-header in reverse, but I'm stumped. Is this what marker/retrieve marker is supposed to be for by any chance? I'm playing with them right now. I'll let you know if I get any where. ANd what the heck are widows and orphans? Widows and orphans have to do with how many minimum lines are to be kept together at the beginning of the first area generated by an FO (orphans) or at the end of the last area generated by the FO (widows). Not quite the same concept as you might be used to in, say, Word. Markers are for running headers and footers, where headers and footers are assumed to be modelled using fo:static-content. For a variety of reasons I see no way in which you could use them. In fact I see no solution to this problem using XSL 1.0; this falls into an identified set of problems which require formatting-time logic over and above what is currently available. Regards, Arved Sandstrom Fairly Senior Software Type e-plicity (http://www.e-plicity.com) Wireless * B2B * J2EE * XML --- Halifax, Nova Scotia - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unknown header extent?
Karen, thanks a lot. The table-header did the trick. Karen Lease wrote: Matt, The short answer is no. The value must be specified as a fixed length or as a percentage which is interpreted relative to the page height, so it's still a fixed value. So your options are: 1) make extent large enough to contain your biggest possible header 2) depending on the structure of your documents, put the entire document into an fo:table and put the header part into the fo:table-header. Regards, Karen Matt Savino wrote: Is there any to avoid explicitly setting the extent of header (region-before)? I have a report that requires a varied number of data rows and possibly a comment field of unknown size within the header. I've looked through the examples, but all of them seem to have the header size hard-coded. Thanks a lot, Matt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
table-header with (Con't)
Is there anyway to get a table header to print differently after the first time/page? Namely I want to reprint the title above a particular table everytime the page breaks, but I want to add '(Con't)' to the end of the title. I'm already using a page header and then a table header within that. These blocks are sub-tables with their own headers within that master table. So far, thanks to your help I've managed to avoid counting rows. I hope there's a solution to this problem as well. Thanks a lot, Matt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Performance
Just in case anyone is interested, see this benchmarking from an earlier post. I still haven't figured out what causes the serious degradation on Unix with two or more concurrent reports. But I did find out it only occurs when running FOP on a servlet inside Weblogic! Two separate Java processes don't see the same degradation. I'm sure BEA support will figure out this problem in no time. To benchmark I used a servlet with embedded FOP to render a 200 page PDF document from an XSLT transform on a static XML-file (no database connection is involved). Both boxes are running Weblogic 6.1. The XSLT transform takes very little time compared to the FOP renderer. I've tried a DomSource for input, a SaxSource, and the XSLTInputHandler. The results are almost exactly the same in each case. Below are the results I see. Initial heap size=max heap size in each case. Each server is running the latest JDK 131 (w/Hotspot). (I have set all the HP system variables (max_thread_proc, etc.) to Sun recommendations.) Nt dev box (NT4-Worksatation, PIII-933mhz, 512MB ram): Heap Size=64M, 1 report = 251ms/page Heap Size=64M, 2 reports = 750ms/page Heap Size=256M, 1 report = 245ms/page Heap Size=256M, 2 reports = 500/page HP server (HP-Unix, 2x550 mhz, 2GB ram): Heap Size=64M, 1 report = 545ms/page (frequent out of memory errors) Heap Size=64M, 2 reports = didn't try Heap Size=256M, 1 report = 372ms/page Heap Size=256M, 2 reports = 1700ms/page Heap Size=512M, 1 report = 350ms/page Heap Size=512M, 2 reports = 1675ms/page The only difference I can see for sure between the two boxes is that the NT machine performs at least 10 times as much garbage collection. (Sometimes several times per page, as opposed to once every 8-10 pages on the NT box.) Garbage collection occurs a little more frequenly on the HP box when I lower the heap size, but still not nearly as often as on the NT--at any heap size. Also the HP box runs out of memory if I lower the heap size. I was hoping this was due to some HP setting, but I'm starting to come to the conclusion that it's just some difference in the hotspot implementations. Amit wrote: Yup I run it under Linux and it is actually way faster than windowsNT or 98. I have the latest kernel 2.4.12 and am using jdk1.2.2 with 128MB or RAM this is in my development environment. Jim Wright wrote: I run complex table stuff on Linux with FOP pretty consistently, and have not experienced the slow-downs you mention. Are you running under Linux with a decent amount of memory? jw -Original Message- From: Alenka Skrbinek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Performance I have performance problems with Fop on Linux for S390. The same document (for example 4 tables on one page) takes 3 seconds on Win NT, while it takes more than one minute on Linux. The same happens with examples which came with FOP - they are slow on Linux. What should I do? Thanks!! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XSLTInputHandler constructor for InputSources?
I am in the exact same situation as far as my xml source. I've currently been using a DOM XSLT transform and sending that result to FOP. I built the latest CVS so I could try SAX (since the SAX input is broken in .20.1). But as you'll see below, the times seem about the same. I also don't know what to do about the logger errors in the latest cvs. And finally I really like the way .20.1 shows you where the page breaks are as it reports it's progress back to the program. Is that gone for good? I think keeping the page numbers in rows rather than streaming down the screen makes the console output easier to read for developers. By the way I did a little rough benchmarking on FOP embedded in a servlet. (I'm running on a Weblogic development box - Wintel - P-III - 933). I tried three different methods: a DOM source, a SAX stream from an XSLT transfrom, and the XSLTInputHandler (I serialzed the xml source out to a file). The XSLT transform is pretty simple as the xml-data is already well structured. Interestingly all three took between 50-51 seconds to render a ~5000 line report into a 300k, 200 page PDF document (there were a lot of page breaks). I'm thinking that's not too bad. Especially since in our case I don't think the end user will be able to tell the difference between render time and download time. Do these numbers sound about right? -Matt Rob Heittman wrote: Would it cause problems to provide an alternate constructor for XSLTInputHandler ... ? XSLTInputHandler(InputSource xmlsource, InputSource xsltsource) in addition to: XSLTInputHandler(File xmlfile, File xsltfile) I am working with XML which is streamed directly out of a repository, not a file, and could get rid of a bunch of lines of redundant code in my app if I could use FOP's XSLTInputHandler instead. If this makes sense, let me know and I'll be happy to provide a patch. - Rob -- Rob Heittman cluestream ventures | effective information management research, development, analysis and consulting http://www.cluestream.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
