Hello, about fop

2006-03-07 Thread chinlu chinawa
Hi guys,

I've been around the installation of trunk's version of FOP, which I've
ended up by not being able to use beacuse of my system is too old
(libc-2.2, gcc 2.95.3), and the java version you've lately updated to,
doesn't run here.

Actually, the only version I'd able to use, would be 0.20.5. The thing
is this version doesn't respect my custom footers (the body overrides
it), body text doesn't start neither at the same possition when using
this footers, etc.

So I'm just wondering whether could anyone please tell about other resources? 

I'd like to be able to generate nice-looking documents, I mean with svg
or anyother scalable imaging format, etc. For this time, I'll be
publishing in C5 (paper size), don't know whether this would a problem
or not.

I understand dockbook/XML-XSLT/SGML-DSSSL and it's customization layers
as a good way of working, although I'd like an expert to advise me. 

I'd be working on a pdf output basis or any other format that would be
better for a press to work with. I'm within a linux system, and have no
troubles at all when starting to learn all over again, tex or any other
format any one could advise me as the most proffesional one when
dealing with presses (is that how you call those places that actually
print out your book, isn't it?), sorry my english anyway. 

I've been for a while away from any of this, but I do remember there
are formats such as dvi, postscript, I know one can have pdf from sgml
+ jadetex, that one can use it even with dsssl or xslt style-sheets
(IIRC). 

I'd really appreciate, though, if someone could advise when getting
into something that's gonna be stable, robust, and is not gonna break
any of my work beacuse of thirdy-party dependencies, whilst being able
to generate good-looking documents as well as dealing with presses, or
printing-presses at highest level.

Kind Regards,




Re: Hello, about fop

2006-03-07 Thread chinlu chinawa
Well, I got both jdk, and jre installed (1_3_1_17), I
mean, the did decompress.

They need at least glibc-2.2.4, whilst mine is 2.2.1.
Could not even build fop because of this, therefore
there's no way it would run either, so I got rid of
all.

I wouldn't say this is any odd problem at all, but a
simple glibc dependency issue, though. 

My compiler and glibc are a bit older, as in my
opninion, nobody needs a glibc eating a hundred more
megabytes of memory after each release, and I can
compile new applications as they come out (and I need
them), but the rest of my system is up to date, and
haven't had any problem I couldn't solve. 

Anyway, I've only used java because of fop, and is
just that we don't need to, this is unix.

Ahm, yes I'm sure that 0.91 is a proper production
tool, but I cannot say same of 0.20.5. It's alright
for simple documents, though. But when you start
dealing with tables, or footers or headers, and you
need precision, there's no way, or that's been my
experience.

Well, you didn't point out me anywhere, I've been
reading about tex, and it looks quite powerfull and
robust, I whish I would have started with it from the
begining, so I'll do it now.

Best Regards guys,




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Hello, about fop

2006-03-06 Thread chinlu chinawa
Hi,

I've been around the installation of trunk's version
of FOP, which I've ended up by not being able to use
beacuse of my system is too old (libc-2.2, gcc
2.95.3), and the java version you've lately updated
to, doesn't run here.

Actually, very likely, the only version I'd able to
use, would be 0.20.5. The thing is this version
doesn't respect my custom footers (the body overrides
it), body text doesn't start neither at the same
possition when using this footers, etc.

So I'm just wondering whether could anyone please tell
about other resources?

I'd like to be able to generate nice-looking
documents, I mean with svg or anyother scalable
imaging format, etc. For this time, I'll be publishing
in C5 (paper size), don't know whether this would a
problem or not.

I understand dockbook/XML-XSLT/SGML-DSSSL and it's
customization layers as a good way of working,
although I'd like an expert to advise me.

I'd be working on a pdf output basis or any other
format that would be better for a press to work with.
I'm within a linux system, and have no troubles at all
when starting to learn all over again, tex or any
other format any one could advise me as the most
proffesional one when dealing with presses (is that
how you call those places that actually print out your
book, isn't it?), sorry my english anyway.

I've been for a while away from any of this, but I do
remember there are formats such as dvi, postscript, I
know one can have pdf from sgml + jadetex, that one
can use it even with dsssl or xslt style-sheets
(IIRC).

I'd really appreciate, though, if someone could advise
when getting into something that's gonna be stable,
robust, and is not gonna break any of my work beacuse
of thirdy-party dependencies (don't want to bother off
anyone, I just mean and independent doc-system),
whilst being able to generate good-looking documents
as well as dealing with presses, or printing-presses
at a highest level, probably a backend for postscript
whatever it is, don't really know how it works
nowadays.

Kind Regards,





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Page breaking handling

2005-11-18 Thread chinlu chinawa
Hi guys,I placed a question a time back regarding how to handle page-breaking, but anybody said anything.I´ve just uploaded some images, and I´m just wondering whether anyone  could let me know which is the normal procedure for this cases, you can  see them here:http://www10.brinkster.com/repos/default.htmAs I said, I´m using as many profiling this way:para condition="hard-copy"/As I need, but it normally breaks "justify-effect" on the last line of the page, and  I get some extra pages at the end of some chapters as well. Also, using  as many para´s as needed casuses the begining text of the page no to be  always at the same possition.I would like to know how this is usually worked around, so any comments  about would be much appreciated. Once more, sorry my english.Thanks very much.  
		 
 
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Page breaking problem with fop

2005-11-10 Thread chinlu chinawa
Hi there,

I´m using FOP to render XML through DockBook XSL, and I´m having the problem that even when I´ve set up all the margins, and extent regions, FOP doesn´t look to be respecting them.

When I have a parapraph which would finished on top of the footers, I can see how the fist line ox text starts before of what I´ve specified, being really close to the header.

I´ve been trying to use proccessing instructions, but then, I loose justify on the last paragraph line´s.

I´ve been trying to use break-before and some other attributes, which doesn´t look to do anything on the output, contrasting it with the fop´s compilance that came with my distro (0.20.5).

How is this problem usually worked out?

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Re: Page breaking problem with fop

2005-11-10 Thread chinlu chinawa
Hi, thanks,

No sorry, I meant profiling. What I´m actually doing is placing one or more: 

para condition="pdf"/
Inside the paragrah bellow mentioned till I force the page´s break, and is then when I loose last´s line justify. Sorry about that.

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On Nov 10, 2005, at 21:11, chinlu chinawa wrote:Hi, I´m using FOP to render XML through DockBook XSL, and I´m having  the problem that even when I´ve set up all the margins, and extent  regions, FOP doesn´t look to be respecting them. When I have a parapraph which would finished on top of the footers,  I can see how the fist line ox text starts before of what I´ve  specified, being really close to the header.Can you post an example FO file demonstrating the problem? I think I understand, but finding the cause based on your description would involve a lot of guessing which I don't really feel like ATM :-) I´ve been trying to use proccessing instructions, but then, I loose  justify on the last paragraph line´s.Processing instructions? Are you sure you're using 
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 right set of DocBook stylesheets? FOP doesn't use processing instructions, but I know RenderX does. Maybe you're using stylesheets that are meant to be used with XEP?HTH!Greetz,Andreas-To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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