Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have cross-references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this either slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. We have tried loading the same files to FM9 on a similar spec machine on the same network connection and that loads the files OK. The PC in question is: HP Compaq DX2200MT; Intel Pentium 4, 3.2 GHz; 768 Mb RAM, 80 Gig HD of which 20 Gig is free; Windows XP Pro, Version 2002, SP3. ATi Fire GL 3100, latest driver from their web-site. Any input on this issue is very welcome. Adrian Cherry Technical Writer Watkiss Automation Ltd. Blaydon Road SANDY Bedfordshire SG19 1RZ United Kingdom Tel:+44 (0)1767 685700 Fax: +44 (0)1767 689900 mailto:adrianche...@watkiss.com URL: http://www.watkiss.com _ Disclaimerhttp://www.watkiss.com/terms.htm This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Watkiss Automation Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify Watkiss Automation Ltd on telephone +44 1767 685700. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
First, your RAM and disk free space are way low... That is likely to be the problem, although it may be compounded if your anti-virus program scans every file as it opens. And you don't mention your network speed, which may be a factor. Even Adobe is recommending 1G of RAM, but in the real world, more than 2G of RAM would be a minimal amount for this config, and you'd need more if you run any graphics-intensive programs simultaneously. Just as a BTW, RAM is cheap right now... And in general, you'd want to have a third to half of the hard drive free for swap space and temp files. If you haven't cleaned up the hard drive with a utility lately, it may be time. One thing you might try is saving the converted files out as MIF to clean up any residual unused references or characters, but I'd say your machine just doesn't have enough horsepower. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Adrian Cherryadrianche...@watkiss.com wrote: Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have cross-references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this either slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. We have tried loading the same files to FM9 on a similar spec machine on the same network connection and that loads the files OK. The PC in question is: HP Compaq DX2200MT; Intel Pentium 4, 3.2 GHz; 768 Mb RAM, 80 Gig HD of which 20 Gig is free; Windows XP Pro, Version 2002, SP3. ATi Fire GL 3100, latest driver from their web-site. Any input on this issue is very welcome. Adrian Cherry Technical Writer Watkiss Automation Ltd. Blaydon Road SANDY Bedfordshire SG19 1RZ United Kingdom Tel:+44 (0)1767 685700 Fax: +44 (0)1767 689900 mailto:adrianche...@watkiss.com URL: http://www.watkiss.com _ Disclaimer http://www.watkiss.com/terms.htm This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Watkiss Automation Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify Watkiss Automation Ltd on telephone +44 1767 685700. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
I've never had good experiences working with FM across a network. On top of Art's suggestions, make sure all the files are on your local computer, and then perform your authoring/document generation/etc there. Nadine --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9 To: Adrian Cherry adrianche...@watkiss.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 10:15 AM First, your RAM and disk free space are way low... That is likely to be the problem, although it may be compounded if your anti-virus program scans every file as it opens. And you don't mention your network speed, which may be a factor. Even Adobe is recommending 1G of RAM, but in the real world, more than 2G of RAM would be a minimal amount for this config, and you'd need more if you run any graphics-intensive programs simultaneously. Just as a BTW, RAM is cheap right now... And in general, you'd want to have a third to half of the hard drive free for swap space and temp files. If you haven't cleaned up the hard drive with a utility lately, it may be time. One thing you might try is saving the converted files out as MIF to clean up any residual unused references or characters, but I'd say your machine just doesn't have enough horsepower. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Adrian Cherryadrianche...@watkiss.com wrote: Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have cross-references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this either slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. We have tried loading the same files to FM9 on a similar spec machine on the same network connection and that loads the files OK. The PC in question is: HP Compaq DX2200MT; Intel Pentium 4, 3.2 GHz; 768 Mb RAM, 80 Gig HD of which 20 Gig is free; Windows XP Pro, Version 2002, SP3. ATi Fire GL 3100, latest driver from their web-site. Any input on this issue is very welcome. Adrian Cherry Technical Writer Watkiss Automation Ltd. Blaydon Road SANDY Bedfordshire SG19 1RZ United Kingdom Tel:+44 (0)1767 685700 Fax: +44 (0)1767 689900 mailto:adrianche...@watkiss.com URL: http://www.watkiss.com _ Disclaimer http://www.watkiss.com/terms.htm This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Watkiss Automation Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify Watkiss Automation Ltd on telephone +44 1767 685700. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have cross- references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this either slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. I noticed that FM9 was opening files much more slowly than previous FM versions and attributed it to the fact that FM9 was preloading all graphics at file open, instead of loading them only when I loaded the particular page in a file. I wrote Adobe about it and got this response: Begin Forwarded message = You might have the Insets Pod open in your default workspace which causes all insets to load at the open of the document. To check whether this is a cause, please do the following: 1. Make sure Hide Panels on Close is unselected in the File -- Preferences -- Interface dialog (see InterfacePreferences.jpg). 2. Open any file (if not already opened) such that workspace loads. 3. Close the Insets Pod from the workspace (see InsetsPod.jpg) 4. Once you have done these steps, you should see graphics loading only on demand and not on open. End Forwarded Message Hope that helps, Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment
Hi All, Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise Please see attachment, why is this title not on the left margin? I have continued to look for spacing or other marks, but I can't find anything. Any comments? Thanks, Sue ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment
Most list servers do not allow the inclusion of attachments because many readers don't appreciate receiving mystery files... So you may want to post it on a site somewhere if you want others to see it. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Susan Curtzwilersusa...@vmc.com wrote: Hi All, Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise Please see attachment, why is this title not on the left margin? I have continued to look for spacing or other marks, but I can't find anything. Any comments? Thanks, Sue ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Susan Curtzwilersusa...@vmc.com wrote: Hi All, Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise Please see attachment, why is this title not on the left margin? I have continued to look for spacing or other marks, but I can't find anything. Any comments? Thanks, Sue FYI, the list software strips attachments. Off the top of my head, I'd check the Paragraph Tag and make sure the following is true: * Alignment -- Left * First -- 0 * Left -- 0 You may also want to check the Master page and see if you have Sideheads set up. Hope that helps. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment
Lin, Thanks, I will check those areas. Sue From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] Sent: Wed 6/17/2009 9:03 AM To: Susan Curtzwiler Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Susan Curtzwilersusa...@vmc.com wrote: Hi All, Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise Please see attachment, why is this title not on the left margin? I have continued to look for spacing or other marks, but I can't find anything. Any comments? Thanks, Sue FYI, the list software strips attachments. Off the top of my head, I'd check the Paragraph Tag and make sure the following is true: * Alignment -- Left * First -- 0 * Left -- 0 You may also want to check the Master page and see if you have Sideheads set up. Hope that helps. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: A Frame Problem for the Record Books
At 03:40 PM 6/15/2009, ecid...@zoominternet.net wrote: Suddenly, I reach the end (or I THOUGHT) it was the end on page 79 of a 90 page document, you know at the end of a Frame file, you encounter the end of file symbol, sort of a double-S When what to my wandering eyes should appear?more text on page 80! It's the next page which I cannot, for the life of me, get to behave or come forward to page 79. It's as if there is a different, separate, text flow so I checked for a Flow: B and there isn't any. Eduardo, I know you've solved the problem by copying the text into a new document. If you happen to have saved the original, and still are curious about figuring out what is going on, there may be something else you can try. Does your document use conditional text? Can you select the text on p. 80? I don't know whether the situation is parallel to yours, but several years ago I had a document with mysterious shadow text. Most of the content was a multi-page table with conditional rows. Hiding and then showing the conditional text caused an extra page to appear in the middle of the table. The new page contained extra copies of rows that appeared elsewhere. Content on the new page could not be selected. Penelope Perkins from Synergex suggested rehyphenating the document (which is done from the dialog that appears when you click the Dictionaries button in the Spelling Checker). Even if there is no hyphenation in a document, rehyphenating causes FrameMaker to look at every paragraph and in my case solved the problem. If you have encountered the same rare situation, rehyphenating may help you as well. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lpr...@txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment
Art, Sorry that I added the attachment.I wasn't aware this was a problem. I will refrain from using attachments in the future. Thanks for the heads up on this. (:- Sue From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: Wed 6/17/2009 9:01 AM To: Susan Curtzwiler Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment Most list servers do not allow the inclusion of attachments because many readers don't appreciate receiving mystery files... So you may want to post it on a site somewhere if you want others to see it. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Susan Curtzwilersusa...@vmc.com wrote: Hi All, Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise Please see attachment, why is this title not on the left margin? I have continued to look for spacing or other marks, but I can't find anything. Any comments? Thanks, Sue ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning
Hi All, Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on Compaq laptop. - In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg 1. However, the file is now opening at the end of the book. Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no page number? The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- would it help if I attached the title page to the front matter? What settings do I need ? Thanks, Sue Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning
Susan: Do you have Adobe Acrobat? You can renumber the pages there, including giving the cover the number Cover. Then you can reset the open to page option to Cover. If you need me to elaborate, let me know. Nadine --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com wrote: From: Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com Subject: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:23 PM Hi All, Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on Compaq laptop. - In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg 1. However, the file is now opening at the end of the book. Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no page number? The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- would it help if I attached the title page to the front matter? What settings do I need ? Thanks, Sue Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Solved RE: New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment
Hi All, This issue has been solved. The alignment = Left and so on were okay. I went to another file that used the same header style, to see all the settings, clicked on Update all. Then used the correct file as a base and imported formats into the problem file -- title now is aligned correctly. Thank You. Sue From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] Sent: Wed 6/17/2009 9:03 AM To: Susan Curtzwiler Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: New Topic 1 _ Title out of alignment On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Susan Curtzwilersusa...@vmc.com wrote: Hi All, Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise Please see attachment, why is this title not on the left margin? I have continued to look for spacing or other marks, but I can't find anything. Any comments? Thanks, Sue FYI, the list software strips attachments. Off the top of my head, I'd check the Paragraph Tag and make sure the following is true: * Alignment -- Left * First -- 0 * Left -- 0 You may also want to check the Master page and see if you have Sideheads set up. Hope that helps. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Unexpected message when saving book file after changing conditional view
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Jeff Schweinerschw...@cray.com wrote: I'm getting an unexpected message when working on FM books that uses conditional tags. The message is listed below. The filename reported in the message (chiaTp_cover.fm in the example below) is always the first file in the book, all other files are saved without a message. File C:\Documents and Settings\schween\Desktop\chiaTp\Sections\chiaTp_cover.fm has changed on the disk since you last opened or saved it. Someone else has probably modified the file. Do you want to save it anyway? The message is generated as follows: 1. Open the book file. 2. Open all files in the book (using Shift key + File - Open All Files in Book). 3. In the book window, select all files in the book, then change the conditional view (using View - Show/Hide Conditional Text). 4. I then save all the files in the book (using Shift key + File - Save All Files in Book) and get the message for only the first file in the book. 5. I click OK in the message window. A GIF image on the cover master page turns into a gray box, everything else seems fine. I put the GIF in an anchored frame, that solved the gray image problem. But I still get the message every time I change the conditional view and save the files. The same thing happens to me. As far as I can tell, if you're the only person working on the files, you can ignore the message. I'm not sure how to prevent it, though. Even if it is preventable, it may not be wise to. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Unexpected message when saving book file after changing conditional view
This usually pops up if someone else has modified / opened / copied the file while it's open on your desktop. If you're sure that no one has, it's likely to be network error or a permissions problem on the server and can be ignored. It happens most often when your network occasionally goes up and down, or you're working remotely on a VPN connection, this type of error occurs whenever there's a momentary disconnect / reconnect. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Jeff Schweinerschw...@cray.com wrote: I'm getting an unexpected message when working on FM books that uses conditional tags. The message is listed below. The filename reported in the message (chiaTp_cover.fm in the example below) is always the first file in the book, all other files are saved without a message. File C:\Documents and Settings\schween\Desktop\chiaTp\Sections\chiaTp_cover.fm has changed on the disk since you last opened or saved it. Someone else has probably modified the file. Do you want to save it anyway? The message is generated as follows: 1. Open the book file. 2. Open all files in the book (using Shift key + File - Open All Files in Book). 3. In the book window, select all files in the book, then change the conditional view (using View - Show/Hide Conditional Text). 4. I then save all the files in the book (using Shift key + File - Save All Files in Book) and get the message for only the first file in the book. 5. I click OK in the message window. A GIF image on the cover master page turns into a gray box, everything else seems fine. I put the GIF in an anchored frame, that solved the gray image problem. But I still get the message every time I change the conditional view and save the files. Other things I tried: - moving different files to the top of the book, the message always points to the first file in the book. - changing the conditional view on just the first file in the book (from the file window) and saving the file, I don't get the message. - created a new book (using File - New - Book) with two new chapter files (using File - New - Document - Portrait) that include two new conditional tags, still get the message. - reinstalled FM, still get the message. - tried creating a new book with new chapter files on two co-worker's desktops, still get the message. Has anyone else seen this message? Is it something I should be concerned about? I'm running Frame 8.0p277 with Windows XP SP2 and also have Acrobat Professional 7 installed. The files are all on my local hard drive. Thanks in advance for any insight. -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning
Unfortunately, I do not have the full Acrobat, only the distiller and Frame 7.0. Thanks, Sue From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Wed 6/17/2009 10:00 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Susan Curtzwiler Cc: Susan Curtzwiler Subject: Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning Susan: Do you have Adobe Acrobat? You can renumber the pages there, including giving the cover the number Cover. Then you can reset the open to page option to Cover. If you need me to elaborate, let me know. Nadine --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com wrote: From: Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com Subject: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:23 PM Hi All, Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on Compaq laptop. - In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg 1. However, the file is now opening at the end of the book. Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no page number? The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- would it help if I attached the title page to the front matter? What settings do I need ? Thanks, Sue Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning
Susan, There's a parameter in the PDF setup or the PDF printer setup that you can access from the FM Printer page that lets you specify the opening page, but I don't have a version that old installed so I can't tell you the exact location. Assuming the title page is in the book file from which the PDF is generated, it has a physical page number in Acrobat and within the PDF -- you probably noticed that the page numbers of the book and the PDF don't automatically match up. If you can't find it and you need a quick fix, you may want to download the eval version of Acrobat and make the adjustment on a different system so you don't mess up your current install. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Susan Curtzwilersusa...@vmc.com wrote: Unfortunately, I do not have the full Acrobat, only the distiller and Frame 7.0. Thanks, Sue From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Wed 6/17/2009 10:00 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Susan Curtzwiler Cc: Susan Curtzwiler Subject: Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning Susan: Do you have Adobe Acrobat? You can renumber the pages there, including giving the cover the number Cover. Then you can reset the open to page option to Cover. If you need me to elaborate, let me know. Nadine --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com wrote: From: Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com Subject: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Susan Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:23 PM Hi All, Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on Compaq laptop. - In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg 1. However, the file is now opening at the end of the book. Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no page number? The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- would it help if I attached the title page to the front matter? What settings do I need ? Thanks, Sue Curtzwiler susa...@vmc.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Is FM8 -- FM9 worth the money?
Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is worth upgrading from FM8? I downloaded the trial and played with it a bit and like the new menus. But was any substantially or even slightly useful functionality added that makes it must have? Regards, Hedley -- Hedley Finger 28 Regent Street Camberwell VIC 3124 Australia Tel: +61 3 9809 1229 Fax: (call phone first) Mobile (cell): +61 412 461 558 Skype: hedley.finger Email. Hedley Finger hfin...@handholding.com.au ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is FM8 -- FM9 worth the money?
If you're using it to author in DITA, then I would say yes. If you're authoring in unstructured, I would say meh. Nadine Hedley Finger wrote: Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is worth upgrading from FM8? I downloaded the trial and played with it a bit and like the new menus. But was any substantially or even slightly useful functionality added that makes it must have? Regards, Hedley -- Hedley Finger 28 Regent Street Camberwell VIC 3124 Australia Tel: +61 3 9809 1229 Fax: (call phone first) Mobile (cell): +61 412 461 558 Skype: hedley.finger Email. Hedley Finger hfin...@handholding.com.au ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning
At 02:23 AM 18/06/2009, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: Hi All, Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on Compaq laptop. - In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg 1. However, the file is now opening at the end of the book. Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no page number? The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- would it help if I attached the title page to the front matter? What settings do I need ? According to the help doc for Fm 8 (and I guess FM 7 is the same): 1. In the PDF Setup dialog box, choose Settings from the pop-up menu, or click the Settings tab (Windows/UNIX). 2. Choose an option from the PDF Job Options pop-up menu for creating Adobe PDF files. The options include predefined settings plus any custom job options you created in Adobe PDF Creation Add-On (Windows), or Normalizer 8 (UNIX). For descriptions of the predefined settings, see Job options. ++ In a book, the job options saved with the first file are applied to all files in the book. To get the results you want in the exported PDF file, open the first file, choose Format Document PDF Setup, adjust the settings, and then click Set. ++ 3. Type an opening page number and choose a zoom level. So (assuming FM 7 is the same, of course!) to make this happen naturally, you should either make your title page the first file in the book and set the job options in that file; or shift its content into the beginning of the front matter and set the job options in that file. Helen ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Is FM8 -- FM9 worth the money?
Check the What's New section of the FM9 PDF user manual Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Writergeneric...@yahoo.ca wrote: If you're using it to author in DITA, then I would say yes. If you're authoring in unstructured, I would say meh. Nadine Hedley Finger wrote: Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is worth upgrading from FM8? I downloaded the trial and played with it a bit and like the new menus. But was any substantially or even slightly useful functionality added that makes it must have? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning
At 10:21 AM 18/06/2009, Art Campbell wrote: [] If you can't find it and you need a quick fix, you may want to download the eval version of Acrobat and make the adjustment on a different system so you don't mess up your current install. I found that Acrobat Pro won't save any document edits in trial mode. I used to think Acrobat Pro was great - I've had four versions in the past, up to and including AP 6. But Adobe's unpublished upgrade policy has changed all that for me. I was having activation problems with Acrobat Pro 8 Upgrade, caused by their very first AP 6 update via Flexnet, that support says won't be fixed as it's no longer a supported product (all AP8 upgrade keys were invalidated on March 1st, apparently!). I sent the box back to the reseller for a refund and set about assessing alternatives. Luckily, I found NitroPDF (www.nitropdf.com). Now, for $99, I get everything Acro Pro can do and more, everything just works, and its distiller is blazingly fast. *And* there's no FlexNet under the hood, deactivating your activated products when it plonks an update into your previously working installation. In short, Nitro makes Acro Pro look very, very ordinary. To post-fix Susan's PDFs in Nitro, you can just add a bookmark to your initial page, name it 'titlepage' (or anything you like) and then hit Ctrl-D, set the initial page in the document properties and Save As... You can also set other initial properties like the zoom level, pages per view and so on. It even supports some properties that only apply to Acrobat Reader, that might or might not be important for PDFs generated by Adobe's Distiller. Still, if the document is going to be maintained, then hacking the PDF isn't a very nice solution. Better to have Frame pass the proper arguments to Distiller in the first place. Helen ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker double-click oddity
At 10:27 PM 16/06/2009, Steve Rickaby wrote: >The default behaviour in FrameMaker is that double-clicking selects a word and >triple-clicking selects a paragraph, as we all know. Completely off-topic, but - I didn't know about double-clicking to select a word and triple-clicking to select a paragraph. However (without Frame running at the moment, as it's bedtime here!) I tried it in my email client (Eudora 7). It works here, exactly like that. Well, now I've learnt something else! Helen
Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have cross-references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this either slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. We have tried loading the same files to FM9 on a similar spec machine on the same network connection and that loads the files OK. The PC in question is: HP Compaq DX2200MT; Intel Pentium 4, 3.2 GHz; 768 Mb RAM, 80 Gig HD of which 20 Gig is free; Windows XP Pro, Version 2002, SP3. ATi Fire GL 3100, latest driver from their web-site. Any input on this issue is very welcome. Adrian Cherry Technical Writer Watkiss Automation Ltd. Blaydon Road SANDY Bedfordshire SG19 1RZ United Kingdom Tel:+44 (0)1767 685700 Fax: +44 (0)1767 689900 mailto:AdrianCherry at watkiss.com URL: http://www.watkiss.com ? _ Disclaimerhttp://www.watkiss.com/terms.htm This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Watkiss Automation Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error please notify Watkiss Automation Ltd on telephone +44 1767 685700.
Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
First, your RAM and disk free space are way low... That is likely to be the problem, although it may be compounded if your anti-virus program scans every file as it opens. And you don't mention your network speed, which may be a factor. Even Adobe is recommending 1G of RAM, but in the real world, more than 2G of RAM would be a minimal amount for this config, and you'd need more if you run any graphics-intensive programs simultaneously. Just as a BTW, RAM is cheap right now... And in general, you'd want to have a third to half of the hard drive free for swap space and temp files. If you haven't cleaned up the hard drive with a utility lately, it may be time. One thing you might try is saving the converted files out as MIF to clean up any residual unused references or characters, but I'd say your machine just doesn't have enough horsepower. Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Adrian Cherry wrote: > > Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. > Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 > minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have > cross-references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. > I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this either > slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. > We have tried loading the same files to FM9 on a similar spec machine on the > same network connection and that loads the files OK. > The PC in question is: HP Compaq DX2200MT; Intel Pentium 4, 3.2 GHz; 768 Mb > RAM, 80 Gig HD of which 20 Gig is free; Windows XP Pro, Version 2002, SP3. > ATi Fire GL 3100, latest driver from their web-site. > Any input on this issue is very welcome. > > Adrian Cherry > Technical Writer > Watkiss Automation Ltd. > Blaydon Road > SANDY > Bedfordshire > SG19 1RZ > United Kingdom > Tel:+44 (0)1767 685700 > Fax: +44 (0)1767 689900 > mailto:AdrianCherry at watkiss.com > URL: http://www.watkiss.com > > _ > Disclaimer ? ?http://www.watkiss.com/terms.htm > This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual > to whom it is addressed. > Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the author and do not > necessarily represent those of Watkiss Automation Ltd. > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this > email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or > copying of this email is strictly prohibited. > If you received this email in error please notify Watkiss Automation Ltd on > telephone +44 1767 685700. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
I've never had good experiences working with FM across a network. On top of Art's suggestions, make sure all the files are on your local computer, and then perform your authoring/document generation/etc there. Nadine --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Art Campbell wrote: > From: Art Campbell > Subject: Re: Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9 > To: "Adrian Cherry" > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 10:15 AM > First, your RAM and disk free space > are way low...? That is likely to > be the problem, although it may be compounded if your > anti-virus > program scans every file as it opens. And you don't mention > your > network speed, which may be a factor. > > Even Adobe is recommending 1G of RAM, but in the real > world, more than > 2G of RAM would be a minimal amount for this config, and > you'd need > more if you run any graphics-intensive programs > simultaneously. Just > as a BTW, RAM is cheap right now... > And in general, you'd want to have a third to half of the > hard drive > free for swap space and temp files. If you haven't cleaned > up the hard > drive with a utility lately, it may be time. > > One thing you might try is saving the converted files out > as MIF to > clean up any residual unused references or characters, but > I'd say > your machine just doesn't have enough horsepower. > > > Art Campbell > ? ? ? ? ? ? > ???art.campbell at gmail.com > ? "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world > beats a '52 > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? No disclaimers apply. > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? > ???DoD 358 > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Adrian Cherry > wrote: > > > > Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the > patches. > > Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now > taking up to 10 minutes to load into FM9. These files are > not massive but do have cross-references, conditional text, > text insets and eps and jpg graphics. > > I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 > files and this either slows the machine to nearly a full > stop or crashes. JPGs are not a problem. > > We have tried loading the same files to FM9 on a > similar spec machine on the same network connection and that > loads the files OK. > > The PC in question is: HP Compaq DX2200MT; Intel > Pentium 4, 3.2 GHz; 768 Mb RAM, 80 Gig HD of which 20 Gig is > free; Windows XP Pro, Version 2002, SP3. ATi Fire GL 3100, > latest driver from their web-site. > > Any input on this issue is very welcome. > > > > Adrian Cherry > > Technical Writer > > Watkiss Automation Ltd. > > Blaydon Road > > SANDY > > Bedfordshire > > SG19 1RZ > > United Kingdom > > Tel:+44 (0)1767 685700 > > Fax: +44 (0)1767 689900 > > mailto:AdrianCherry at watkiss.com > > URL: http://www.watkiss.com > > > > > _ > > Disclaimer ? ?http://www.watkiss.com/terms.htm > > This email is confidential and intended solely for the > use of the individual to whom it is addressed. > > Any views or opinions presented are solely that of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Watkiss > Automation Ltd. > > If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that > you have received this email in error and that any use, > dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this > email is strictly prohibited. > > If you received this email in error please notify > Watkiss Automation Ltd on telephone +44 1767 685700. > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > >
Very slow loading of FM6 files into FM9
> Have recently upgraded to FM9 and applied the patches. > Files that took a few seconds to load into FM6 are now taking up to 10 > minutes to load into FM9. These files are not massive but do have cross- > references, conditional text, text insets and eps and jpg graphics. > I have also tried importing eps graphics into new FM9 files and this > either > slows the machine to nearly a full stop or crashes. JPGs are not a > problem. I noticed that FM9 was opening files much more slowly than previous FM versions and attributed it to the fact that FM9 was preloading all graphics at file open, instead of loading them only when I loaded the particular page in a file. I wrote Adobe about it and got this response: Begin Forwarded message = You might have the "Insets Pod" open in your default workspace which causes all insets to load at the open of the document. To check whether this is a cause, please do the following: 1. Make sure "Hide Panels on Close" is unselected in the "File --> Preferences --> Interface" dialog (see InterfacePreferences.jpg). 2. Open any file (if not already opened) such that workspace loads. 3. Close the "Insets Pod" from the workspace (see InsetsPod.jpg) 4. Once you have done these steps, you should see graphics loading only on demand and not on open. End Forwarded Message Hope that helps, Mike Wickham
New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment
Hi All, Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise Please see attachment, why is this title not on the left margin? I have continued to look for spacing or other marks, but I can't find anything. Any comments? Thanks, Sue
New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment
Most list servers do not allow the inclusion of attachments because many readers don't appreciate receiving mystery files... So you may want to post it on a site somewhere if you want others to see it. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > Hi All, > ? Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise > > ? Please see attachment, why is this title not on the left margin? > > ? I have continued to look for spacing or other marks, but I can't find > anything. > > ?Any comments? > > Thanks, > ?Sue > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > Hi All, > ? Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise > > ? Please see attachment, why is this title not on the left margin? > > ? I have continued to look for spacing or other marks, but I can't find > anything. > > ?Any comments? > > Thanks, > ?Sue FYI, the list software strips attachments. Off the top of my head, I'd check the Paragraph Tag and make sure the following is true: * Alignment -- Left * First -- 0" * Left -- 0" You may also want to check the Master page and see if you have Sideheads set up. Hope that helps. -- Lin Sims
New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment
Lin, Thanks, I will check those areas. Sue From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] Sent: Wed 6/17/2009 9:03 AM To: Susan Curtzwiler Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > Hi All, > Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise > > Please see attachment, why is this title not on the left margin? > > I have continued to look for spacing or other marks, but I can't find > anything. > > Any comments? > > Thanks, > Sue FYI, the list software strips attachments. Off the top of my head, I'd check the Paragraph Tag and make sure the following is true: * Alignment -- Left * First -- 0" * Left -- 0" You may also want to check the Master page and see if you have Sideheads set up. Hope that helps. -- Lin Sims
A Frame Problem for the Record Books
At 03:40 PM 6/15/2009, ecidade at zoominternet.net wrote: > Suddenly, I reach the end (or I THOUGHT) it was the end on page 79 >of a 90 page document, you know at the end of a Frame file, you >encounter the "end of file" symbol, sort of a "double-S" > > When what to my wandering eyes should appear?more text on page >80! It's the next page which I cannot, for the life of me, get to >behave or come forward to page 79. It's as if there is a different, >separate, text flow so I checked for a "Flow: B" and there isn't any. Eduardo, I know you've solved the problem by copying the text into a new document. If you happen to have saved the original, and still are curious about figuring out what is going on, there may be something else you can try. Does your document use conditional text? Can you select the text on p. 80? I don't know whether the situation is parallel to yours, but several years ago I had a document with mysterious "shadow" text. Most of the content was a multi-page table with conditional rows. Hiding and then showing the conditional text caused an extra page to appear in the middle of the table. The new page contained extra copies of rows that appeared elsewhere. Content on the new page could not be selected. Penelope Perkins from Synergex suggested rehyphenating the document (which is done from the dialog that appears when you click the Dictionaries button in the Spelling Checker). Even if there is no hyphenation in a document, rehyphenating causes FrameMaker to look at every paragraph and in my case solved the problem. If you have encountered the same rare situation, rehyphenating may help you as well. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lprice at txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284
New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment
Art, Sorry that I added the attachment.I wasn't aware this was a problem. I will refrain from using attachments in the future. Thanks for the heads up on this. (:- Sue From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: Wed 6/17/2009 9:01 AM To: Susan Curtzwiler Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment Most list servers do not allow the inclusion of attachments because many readers don't appreciate receiving mystery files... So you may want to post it on a site somewhere if you want others to see it. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > Hi All, > Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise > > Please see attachment, why is this title not on the left margin? > > I have continued to look for spacing or other marks, but I can't find > anything. > > Any comments? > > Thanks, > Sue > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning
Hi All, Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on Compaq laptop. - In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg 1. However, the file is now opening at the end of the book. Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no page number? The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- would it help if I attached the title page to the front matter? What settings do I need ? Thanks, Sue Curtzwiler susancu at vmc.com
New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning
Susan: Do you have Adobe Acrobat? You can renumber the pages there, including giving the cover the "number" Cover. Then you can reset the "open to page" option to Cover. If you need me to elaborate, let me know. Nadine --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > From: Susan Curtzwiler > Subject: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Cc: "Susan Curtzwiler" > Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:23 PM > Hi All, > ??? > Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on > Compaq laptop. > - > > In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg > 1.???However, the file is now opening at the > end of the book. > > Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no > page number?? > > The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- > would it help if I attached the title page to the front > matter? > > What settings do I need ? > > > Thanks, > Sue Curtzwiler > susancu at vmc.com > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > >
Solved RE: New Topic 1 _ Title out of aliignment
Hi All, This issue has been solved. The alignment = Left and so on were okay. I went to another file that used the same header style, to see all the settings, clicked on Update all. Then used the correct file as a base and imported formats into the problem file -- title now is aligned correctly. Thank You. Sue From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] Sent: Wed 6/17/2009 9:03 AM To: Susan Curtzwiler Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: New Topic 1 _ Title out of alignment On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > Hi All, > Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise > > Please see attachment, why is this title not on the left margin? > > I have continued to look for spacing or other marks, but I can't find > anything. > > Any comments? > > Thanks, > Sue FYI, the list software strips attachments. Off the top of my head, I'd check the Paragraph Tag and make sure the following is true: * Alignment -- Left * First -- 0" * Left -- 0" You may also want to check the Master page and see if you have Sideheads set up. Hope that helps. -- Lin Sims
Unexpected message when saving book file after changing conditional view
I'm getting an unexpected message when working on FM books that uses conditional tags. The message is listed below. The filename reported in the message (chiaTp_cover.fm in the example below) is always the first file in the book, all other files are saved without a message. "File C:\Documents and Settings\schween\Desktop\chiaTp\Sections\chiaTp_cover.fm has changed on the disk since you last opened or saved it. Someone else has probably modified the file. Do you want to save it anyway?" The message is generated as follows: 1. Open the book file. 2. Open all files in the book (using Shift key + File -> Open All Files in Book). 3. In the book window, select all files in the book, then change the conditional view (using View -> Show/Hide Conditional Text). 4. I then save all the files in the book (using Shift key + File -> Save All Files in Book) and get the message for only the first file in the book. 5. I click OK in the message window. A GIF image on the cover master page turns into a gray box, everything else seems fine. I put the GIF in an anchored frame, that solved the gray image problem. But I still get the message every time I change the conditional view and save the files. Other things I tried: - moving different files to the top of the book, the message always points to the first file in the book. - changing the conditional view on just the first file in the book (from the file window) and saving the file, I don't get the message. - created a new book (using File -> New -> Book) with two new chapter files (using File -> New -> Document -> Portrait) that include two new conditional tags, still get the message. - reinstalled FM, still get the message. - tried creating a new book with new chapter files on two co-worker's desktops, still get the message. Has anyone else seen this message? Is it something I should be concerned about? I'm running Frame 8.0p277 with Windows XP SP2 and also have Acrobat Professional 7 installed. The files are all on my local hard drive. Thanks in advance for any insight. -- Jeff Schweiner Hardware Engineering Writer Cray Inc. (715) 726-4801
Unexpected message when saving book file after changing conditional view
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Jeff Schweiner wrote: > I'm getting an unexpected message when working on FM books that uses > conditional tags. ?The message is listed below. The filename reported in > the message (chiaTp_cover.fm in the example below) is always the first > file in the book, all other files are saved without a message. > > "File C:\Documents and > Settings\schween\Desktop\chiaTp\Sections\chiaTp_cover.fm has changed on > the disk since you last opened or saved it. ?Someone else has probably > modified the file. ?Do you want to save it anyway?" > > The message is generated as follows: > > 1. Open the book file. > 2. Open all files in the book (using Shift key + File -> Open All Files > in Book). > 3. In the book window, select all files in the book, then change the > conditional view (using View -> Show/Hide Conditional Text). > 4. I then save all the files in the book (using Shift key + File -> Save > All Files in Book) and get the message for only the first file in the > book. > 5. I click OK in the message window. ?A GIF image on the cover master > page turns into a gray box, everything else seems fine. ?I put the GIF > in an anchored frame, that solved the gray image problem. ?But I still > get the message every time I change the conditional view and save the > files. > The same thing happens to me. As far as I can tell, if you're the only person working on the files, you can ignore the message. I'm not sure how to prevent it, though. Even if it is preventable, it may not be wise to. -- Lin Sims
Unexpected message when saving book file after changing conditional view
This usually pops up if someone else has modified / opened / copied the file while it's open on your desktop. If you're sure that no one has, it's likely to be network error or a permissions problem on the server and can be ignored. It happens most often when your network occasionally goes up and down, or you're working remotely on a VPN connection, this type of error occurs whenever there's a momentary disconnect / reconnect. Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Jeff Schweiner wrote: > I'm getting an unexpected message when working on FM books that uses > conditional tags. ?The message is listed below. The filename reported in > the message (chiaTp_cover.fm in the example below) is always the first > file in the book, all other files are saved without a message. > > "File C:\Documents and > Settings\schween\Desktop\chiaTp\Sections\chiaTp_cover.fm has changed on > the disk since you last opened or saved it. ?Someone else has probably > modified the file. ?Do you want to save it anyway?" > > The message is generated as follows: > > 1. Open the book file. > 2. Open all files in the book (using Shift key + File -> Open All Files > in Book). > 3. In the book window, select all files in the book, then change the > conditional view (using View -> Show/Hide Conditional Text). > 4. I then save all the files in the book (using Shift key + File -> Save > All Files in Book) and get the message for only the first file in the > book. > 5. I click OK in the message window. ?A GIF image on the cover master > page turns into a gray box, everything else seems fine. ?I put the GIF > in an anchored frame, that solved the gray image problem. ?But I still > get the message every time I change the conditional view and save the > files. > > Other things I tried: > - moving different files to the top of the book, the message always > points to the first file in the book. > - changing the conditional view on just the first file in the book (from > the file window) and saving the file, I don't get the message. > - created a new book (using File -> New -> Book) with two new chapter > files (using File -> New -> Document -> Portrait) that include two new > conditional tags, still get the message. > - reinstalled FM, still get the message. > - tried creating a new book with new chapter files on two co-worker's > desktops, still get the message. > > Has anyone else seen this message? ?Is it something I should be > concerned about? > > I'm running Frame 8.0p277 with Windows XP SP2 and also have Acrobat > Professional 7 installed. ?The files are all on my local hard drive. > > Thanks in advance for any insight. > > -- > Jeff Schweiner > Hardware Engineering Writer > Cray Inc. > (715) 726-4801 > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning
Unfortunately, I do not have the full Acrobat, only the distiller and Frame 7.0. Thanks, Sue From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Wed 6/17/2009 10:00 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Susan Curtzwiler Cc: Susan Curtzwiler Subject: Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning Susan: Do you have Adobe Acrobat? You can renumber the pages there, including giving the cover the "number" Cover. Then you can reset the "open to page" option to Cover. If you need me to elaborate, let me know. Nadine --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > From: Susan Curtzwiler > Subject: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Cc: "Susan Curtzwiler" > Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:23 PM > Hi All, > > Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on > Compaq laptop. > - > > In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg > 1. However, the file is now opening at the > end of the book. > > Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no > page number? > > The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- > would it help if I attached the title page to the front > matter? > > What settings do I need ? > > > Thanks, > Sue Curtzwiler > susancu at vmc.com > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > >
New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning
Susan, There's a parameter in the PDF setup or the PDF printer setup that you can access from the FM Printer page that lets you specify the opening page, but I don't have a version that old installed so I can't tell you the exact location. Assuming the title page is in the book file from which the PDF is generated, it has a physical page number in Acrobat and within the PDF -- you probably noticed that the page numbers of the book and the PDF don't automatically match up. If you can't find it and you need a quick fix, you may want to download the eval version of Acrobat and make the adjustment on a different system so you don't mess up your current install. Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > Unfortunately, I do not have the full Acrobat, only the distiller and Frame > 7.0. > > Thanks, > Sue > > > > From: Writer [mailto:generic668 at yahoo.ca] > Sent: Wed 6/17/2009 10:00 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Susan Curtzwiler > Cc: Susan Curtzwiler > Subject: Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning > > > > > Susan: > > Do you have Adobe Acrobat? You can renumber the pages there, including giving > the cover the "number" Cover. Then you can reset the "open to page" option to > Cover. > > If you need me to elaborate, let me know. > > Nadine > > --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: > >> From: Susan Curtzwiler >> Subject: New Topic 2: ?PDF will not open at beginning >> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >> Cc: "Susan Curtzwiler" >> Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:23 PM >> Hi All, >> >> ?Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on >> Compaq laptop. >> - >> >> In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg >> 1. ? However, the file is now opening at the >> end of the book. >> >> Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no >> page number? >> >> The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- >> would it help if I attached the title page to the front >> matter? >> >> What settings do I need ? >> >> >> Thanks, >> Sue Curtzwiler >> susancu at vmc.com >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. >> Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and >> info. >> >> > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?
Check the What's New section of the FM9 PDF user manual Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Writer wrote: > If you're using it to author in DITA, then I would say yes. If you're > authoring in unstructured, I would say meh. > > Nadine > > Hedley Finger wrote: >> Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is >> worth upgrading from FM8? ?I downloaded the trial and played with it a >> bit and like the new menus. ?But was any substantially or even slightly >> useful functionality added that makes it must have?
