RE: Disappearing Palette Items

[Craig Ede]

Reading the manual might help here.

 

The workspace menu doesn't read Authoring unless you have chosen the
Authoring workspace environment. That button name just shows what you
current workspace environment is set to. Mine can be Craig's Custom,
Authoring, Design, Review, Structured Authoring, or others.

Your palette items are disappearing because you are closing them. Docking
them will retain them, but if you undock them and then close them, they have
to reopened to reappear. 

 

Reading the manual will help you understand how they work and what logic
drives their functioning.

 

Craig

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Karen Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:45 PM
To: Stuart Rogers; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Disappearing Palette Items

 

Actually, they disappear IN THE MIDDLE OF WORKING on a single document/book
or multiple documents, not just on close! What a sad state of user interface
affairs FM has fallen into. :-)

I now realize that the workspace menu everyone keeps referring to is
actually the button that reads Authoring! 

And while I can restore most of what I want to be in there, for some reason
I can't get Object Properties back there, it only wants to exist as a
free-standing window/part of the designer (which also won't move into the
docked set). Sigh.

Thanks all,
Karen

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Incorporating an existing PDF into an FM-generated PDF

[LGLists]

FM 10
Acrobat X Pro
Win 7
 
I need to incorporate an existing and lengthy PDF file into the PDF file
that I'll generate from the FM content I've written. 
 
At least for the foreseeable future, it won't be possible to incorporate the
source content of the existing PDF into FM to be able to generate a single
PDF file.
 
Is it possible to incorporate that existing PDF , as is, into the PDF that
I'll generate, so that the TOC, page numbering, etc. will all be there for
both PDFs? If yes, how?
 
If not, how would I create a link to that PDF in FM that will work from the
generated PDF? I think I've done it before, but it's been a long, long time.
 
 
Thanks in advance!
 

~
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STC Fellow
TechCom Plus, LLC - celebrating 20 years!
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Re: Disappearing Palette Items

[Robert Lauriston]

I gave up on customizing my workspace because of that happening.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Framers,

 Forgive me if I asked this before, I can't seem to locate a solution in my
 archives.

 This morning I opened Frame and my docked designers/palettes have all but
 disappeared.

 Yesterday, Find/Change, Replace Font, Marker, Paragraph, Character, Table,
 Object Properties, and a few others were docked together on my desktop.
 Today, only Find/Change and Replace Font are there; the rest have
 evaporated. Oh sure, I can reopen them from their menus. But why does my
 workspace change without cause? Obviously it's a huge waste of time to open
 palettes every day (or random days, since I never know when this will
 happen).

 Thanks,
 Karen

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Re: Incorporating an existing PDF into an FM-generated PDF

[Writer]

You should be able to do part of that with Acrobat. By page numbering, do you 
mean the printed page number or the page number in the box at the top of the 
Reader frame? If the later, you should be able to do that with Acrobat, too.

Nadine



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To: 'Post Framers' framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:31:37 PM
Subject: Incorporating an existing PDF into an FM-generated PDF
 


FM 
10
Acrobat X 
Pro
Win 
7
 
I need to 
incorporate an existing and lengthy PDF file into the PDF file that 
I'll generate from the FM content I've written. 
 
At least for the 
foreseeable future, it won't be possible to incorporate the source content of 
the existing PDF into FM to be able to 
generate a single PDF file.
 
Is it 
possible to incorporate that existing PDF , as is, into the PDF that 
I'll generate, so that the TOC, page numbering, 
etc. will all be there for both PDFs? If 
yes, how?
 
If not, how 
would I create a link to that PDF in 
FM that will work from the generated PDF?I think I've 
done it before, but it's been a long, long 
time.
 
 
Thanks in 
advance!
 
~
Linda G. 
Gallagher
STC Fellow
TechCom Plus, LLC - 
celebrating 20 years!
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com 
303-450-9076 or 
800-500-3144
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RE: Incorporating an existing PDF into an FM-generated PDF

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Linda,

 

It depends on how integrated the existing PDF is with the FM content. You
can import individual pages from an existing PDF into FrameMaker pages.
However, FrameMaker is not able to pick up any of the content of the
imported PDF pages for generated files and bookmarks, etc.

 

Like most everything else, some of this can be fixed with FrameScript. For
example, with stock FrameMaker, you can only import a single PDF page at a
time from a multi-page PDF. With FrameScript, you could import the entire
PDF with one command. Also, with a script, you could import incorporate
headings and page numbers from the PDF and hide them in your FrameMaker
document so you can get TOCs, bookmarks, cross-references, etc. to work with
the imported PDF content. If you are interested in exploring what is
possible, please contact me off-list.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

r...@frameexpert.com

 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:32 PM
To: 'Post Framers'
Subject: Incorporating an existing PDF into an FM-generated PDF

 

FM 10

Acrobat X Pro

Win 7

 

I need to incorporate an existing and lengthy PDF file into the PDF file
that I'll generate from the FM content I've written. 

 

At least for the foreseeable future, it won't be possible to incorporate the
source content of the existing PDF into FM to be able to generate a single
PDF file.

 

Is it possible to incorporate that existing PDF , as is, into the PDF that
I'll generate, so that the TOC, page numbering, etc. will all be there for
both PDFs? If yes, how?

 

If not, how would I create a link to that PDF in FM that will work from the
generated PDF? I think I've done it before, but it's been a long, long time.

 

 

Thanks in advance!

 

~
Linda G. Gallagher
STC Fellow
TechCom Plus, LLC - celebrating 20 years!
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com http://www.techcomplus.com/  
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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Re: Disappearing Palette Items

[Mike Wickham]

 Reading the manual might help here.

Good advice, but there hasn't been a FrameMaker manual since FM7. :) And 
online help often requires the use of specific search terms to find 
obscure information. Online help needs lots of work.


There is a really good video on using the new (as of FM9) interface. 
It's really helpful in learning about docking palettes, setting up 
workspaces, etc.. I didn't like the new interface until I saw this 
video. Now, I wouldn't go back. Here's the link:

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/tips-and-tricks-for-technical-communicators-to-maximize-productivity/getting-started-with-the-new-framemaker-9-user-interface/

Some of the settings in File Preferences Interface can also affect the 
behavior of palettes. I haven't followed this thread closely, but it 
might be worth looking at the settings there. It might be helpful to 
check out message #35 in the following thread, where I show an example 
of the workspace I use and the settings to get it: 
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4039348


Regarding not being able to make the Object Properties dialog dock, it 
might depend on which one you mean. If you right-click on a selected 
text frame and choose Object Properties, a standalone Customize Text 
Frame dialog opens, but disappears when you click Set or Cancel. If you 
right-click on graphic objects, the Object Properties dialog opens and 
it is dockable (see example in my workspace mentioned above).


Mike Wickham

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RE: Disappearing Palette Items

[Fred Ridder]

Mike Wickham wrote:

 Reading
  the manual might help here.

  

  Good advice, but there hasn't been a FrameMaker manual since FM7.
  :) 


Well, I suppose that's true if you are talking about a printed and bound (dead 
tree) manual. But there certainly has been a PDF that calls itself tieh 
FrameMaker User Guide that is right there in the Documents folder within a 
standard FrameMaker installation. 

This is not to say that the manual is very comprehensive (it's not) or very 
useable (it's not, because the organization is not great and the index is 
useless). But it does exist, and it does cover some of the various issues that 
the OP has asked about. In general, the quality of the FrameMaker User Guide 
has gone steadily downhill since version 5.0, which was pre-Adobe. The manual 
shrank by about 30% for v5.5.6, and since then every addition to the manual 
seems to be offset by a similar sized deletion.

Fred Ridder

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RE: Updating TOC Wipes Formatting

[Karen Robbins]

Here's what may be causing my problem: The TOC reference page has default
paragraph tags for HeadingATOC, HeadingBTOC, etc. But my document
has paragraph tags of Heading1TOC, Heading2TOC, etc.

I am not sure if I created (at some point in the distant past) the TOC
paragraph tags with that naming convention or how it came to be. Others
have muddled with these files before me, so it's hard to know.

I need to apply the style elements of my TOC tags to the default TOC tags,
then delete my tags and apply/use only the default tags (newly styled).
Then my TOC updates should be in better shape than they were before. ;-)

Thanks again,
Karen
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Re: Updating TOC Wipes Formatting

[Stuart Rogers]

On 2013-Aug-29 1:12 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:
Here's what may be causing my problem: The TOC reference page has 
default paragraph tags for HeadingATOC, HeadingBTOC, etc. But my 
document has paragraph tags of Heading1TOC, Heading2TOC, etc.


I am not sure if I created (at some point in the distant past) the TOC 
paragraph tags with that naming convention or how it came to be. 
Others have muddled with these files before me, so it's hard to know.


I need to apply the style elements of my TOC tags to the default TOC 
tags, then delete my tags and apply/use only the default tags (newly 
styled). Then my TOC updates should be in better shape than they were 
before. ;-)


Thanks again,
Karen




Karen,

Before you do that, check for another TOC flow on a different reference 
page. FM should have created it automagically when you generated the 
TOC. You can disregard (or delete) the page that contains the wrong tags.


s.

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Re: Disappearing Palette Items

[Karen Robbins]

Simply but effective idea, Ed. Thanks!
--Karen


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:10 AM, De Rosier, Edward 
edward.deros...@anritsu.com wrote:

 Hi Karen,

 On this framers list, probably within the last two years, someone offered
 a suggestion about those customized workspaces.

 Get the FM interface (all pods, etc.) organized the way you like them,
 then save the workspace with a name that you like.

 TIP (this was the suggestion from the experienced framer):
Then resave the workspace with another name, as a backup.  I name mine
 ED_1 (for example), and then ED_1_BU.

 The purpose of the backup is that the workspace can get corrupted.  Rather
 than start over, you can then just set the backup workspace, and from
 there, you can recreate the original (in order to maintain an original plus
 a backup).

 Others have already offered suggestions about how you get the desired
 workspace initially, and I have too little experience to add to their great
 comments.

 Best wishes,

 Ed DeRosier
 Technical Writer
 Anritsu Company


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Re: Updating TOC Wipes Formatting

[Karen Robbins]

Luckily, only one TOC reference page. And the formatting now seems to apply
when updating.

But now I have another problem. My TOC page contains other content
(credits, legalese, etc.) besides the TOC, which takes up only about half
the page. When updating the book, FM doesn't replace the existing TOC; it
adds a whole new TOC on a new page 1 of this file, pushing my existing
content (TOC and other) to page 2.

Of course I can copy and paste the new, updated TOC in place of the old
one. Or maybe some other way of getting it into position. But if FM is
supposedly deleting the existing TOC when updating, why didn't this happen?

Thanks,
Karen




On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Stuart Rogers 
srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote:

  On 2013-Aug-29 1:12 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:

   Here's what may be causing my problem: The TOC reference page has
 default paragraph tags for HeadingATOC, HeadingBTOC, etc. But my document
 has paragraph tags of Heading1TOC, Heading2TOC, etc.

  I am not sure if I created (at some point in the distant past) the TOC
 paragraph tags with that naming convention or how it came to be. Others
 have muddled with these files before me, so it's hard to know.

  I need to apply the style elements of my TOC tags to the default TOC
 tags, then delete my tags and apply/use only the default tags (newly
 styled). Then my TOC updates should be in better shape than they were
 before. ;-)

  Thanks again,
 Karen



 Karen,

 Before you do that, check for another TOC flow on a different reference
 page. FM should have created it automagically when you generated the TOC.
 You can disregard (or delete) the page that contains the wrong tags.

 s.

 --
 Stuart Rogers
 Technical Communicator
 Phoenix Geophysics Limited
 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
 Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
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Re: Disappearing Palette Items

[Carol J. Elkins]

I can second Mike's suggestion to watch RJ's video. I watched it 
immediately after upgrading to Frame 9 and it made the paradigm shift 
from Frame 7 so much smoother. A lot of people really struggled with 
how to manage the pods and panels on the new UI, but RJ made it easy 
to understand. Until you understand the power of being able to 
customize your UI, you will not be able to take full advantage of the 
FM versions that have been released since FM9 plus the other Adobe 
products that use that same UI now.


Carol

At 11:00 AM 8/29/2013, Mike Wickham wrote:
There is a really good video on using the new (as of FM9) interface. 
It's really helpful in learning about docking palettes, setting up 
workspaces, etc.. I didn't like the new interface until I saw this 
video. Now, I wouldn't go back. Here's the link:

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/tips-and-tricks-for-technical-communicators-to-maximize-productivity/getting-started-with-the-new-framemaker-9-user-interface/http://tv.adobe.com/watch/tips-and-tricks-for-technical-communicators-to-maximize-productivity/getting-started-with-the-new-framemaker-9-user-interface/


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Re: need to collaborate with a Word guru

[Chris Coggins]

Hey Carol,
Did you resolve this issue re: setting up Word styles to change text
formats within the same level in heading styles?

Chris



On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Carol J. Elkins
celk...@awrittenword.comwrote:

  Please contact me off list if you are an experienced Word user who is
 familiar with building templates in both Framemaker and MSWord. I've been
 asked to create a Word template that matches a Framemaker template that I
 designed and I'm really struggling with Word's paragraph numbering versus
 heading numbering styles. I need to set up styles to manage the following
 numbering scheme:

 *1.0 THIS IS HEADING 1
 *1.1. This is List Number 2
 *1.2. This is Heading 2
 *1.2.1. This is List Number 3
 *1.2.2. This is Heading 3
 *1.2.2.1. This is List Number 4
 *1.2.2.2. This is Heading 4
 *1.2.2.2.1. This is List Number 5
 *1.2.2.2.2. This is Heading 5
 *1.2.2.2.2.1. This is List Number 6
 *1.2.2.2.2.2. This is Heading 6

 2.0 THIS IS HEADING 1
 *2.1. This is List Number 2
 *2.2. This is Heading 2
 *2.2.1. This is List Number 3
 *2.2.2. This is Heading 3
 *2.2.2.1. This is List Number 4
 *2.2.2.2. This is Heading 4
 *2.2.2.2.1. This is List Number 5
 *2.2.2.2.2. This is Heading 5
 *2.2.2.2.2.1. This is List Number 6
 *2.2.2.2.2.2. This is Heading 6


 *Carol
 **

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 Carol J. Elkins---A Written Word LLC
 Making Information Understandable
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RE: Disappearing Palette Items

[Craig Ede]

The downloadable PDF from the help system is, in effect, the manual. I urge
everyone to download it and print it out. It's structure is far clearer than
it appears by clicking on links in the online bits  pieces.

 

I agree that the videos are very helpful and go far beyond the manual in
clarifying the concepts. Here's a post that I sent to this list in Feb of
2012:

 I'd suggest you go to:

 http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/Using/index.html

 Click on the Getting Started link and play the video that is offered.

 That should help you to get through the transition. It sure helped me 

 realize how configurable (and resettable) the new interface is. It's 

 almost an hour long, so following along clicking in your own interface 

 can be pretty helpful for retention. Two screens are very useful to have
for that.

The instructions above lead to the same place as Mike's link in the message
I'm responding to.

 

Craig

 

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Subject: Re: Disappearing Palette Items

 

 Reading the manual might help here.

Good advice, but there hasn't been a FrameMaker manual since FM7. :) And
online help often requires the use of specific search terms to find obscure
information. Online help needs lots of work.

There is a really good video on using the new (as of FM9) interface. It's
really helpful in learning about docking palettes, setting up workspaces,
etc.. I didn't like the new interface until I saw this video. Now, I
wouldn't go back. Here's the link:
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/tips-and-tricks-for-technical-communicators-to-max
imize-productivity/getting-started-with-the-new-framemaker-9-user-interface/

Some of the settings in File Preferences Interface can also affect the
behavior of palettes. I haven't followed this thread closely, but it might
be worth looking at the settings there. It might be helpful to check out
message #35 in the following thread, where I show an example of the
workspace I use and the settings to get it:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4039348

Regarding not being able to make the Object Properties dialog dock, it might
depend on which one you mean. If you right-click on a selected text frame
and choose Object Properties, a standalone Customize Text Frame dialog
opens, but disappears when you click Set or Cancel. If you right-click on
graphic objects, the Object Properties dialog opens and it is dockable (see
example in my workspace mentioned above).

Mike Wickham

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RE: Disappearing Palette Items

[De Rosier, Edward]

Hi Karen,

On this framers list, probably within the last two years, someone offered a 
suggestion about those customized workspaces.

Get the FM interface (all pods, etc.) organized the way you like them, then 
save the workspace with a name that you like.

TIP (this was the suggestion from the experienced framer):
   Then resave the workspace with another name, as a backup.  I name mine ED_1 
(for example), and then ED_1_BU.

The purpose of the backup is that the workspace can get corrupted.  Rather than 
start over, you can then just set the backup workspace, and from there, you can 
recreate the original (in order to maintain an original plus a backup).

Others have already offered suggestions about how you get the desired workspace 
initially, and I have too little experience to add to their great comments.

Best wishes,

Ed DeRosier
Technical Writer
Anritsu Company

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Incorporating an existing PDF into an FM-generated PDF

[Writer]

You should be able to do part of that with Acrobat. By page numbering, do you 
mean the printed page number or the page number in the box at the top of the 
Reader frame? If the later, you should be able to do that with Acrobat, too.

Nadine



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FM 
10
Acrobat X 
Pro
Win 
7
?
I need to 
incorporate an existing and lengthy?PDF file into the?PDF file that 
I'll generate from the FM content I've written. 
?
At least for the 
foreseeable future, it won't be possible to incorporate the source content of 
the existing PDF into FM to be able to 
generate a single PDF file.
?
Is it 
possible to incorporate that existing PDF , as is, into the?PDF that 
I'll generate, so that the TOC, page numbering, 
etc. will all be there for both PDFs? If 
yes, how?
?
If not, how 
would I create a link to that?PDF in 
FM that will work from the generated?PDF?I think I've 
done it before, but it's been a long, long 
time.
?
?
Thanks in 
advance!
?
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Incorporating an existing PDF into an FM-generated PDF

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Linda,



It depends on how integrated the existing PDF is with the FM content. You
can import individual pages from an existing PDF into FrameMaker pages.
However, FrameMaker is not able to pick up any of the content of the
imported PDF pages for generated files and bookmarks, etc.



Like most everything else, some of this can be fixed with FrameScript. For
example, with stock FrameMaker, you can only import a single PDF page at a
time from a multi-page PDF. With FrameScript, you could import the entire
PDF with one command. Also, with a script, you could import incorporate
headings and page numbers from the PDF and "hide" them in your FrameMaker
document so you can get TOCs, bookmarks, cross-references, etc. to work with
the imported PDF content. If you are interested in exploring what is
possible, please contact me off-list.



Rick



Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

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FM 10

Acrobat X Pro

Win 7



I need to incorporate an existing and lengthy PDF file into the PDF file
that I'll generate from the FM content I've written. 



At least for the foreseeable future, it won't be possible to incorporate the
source content of the existing PDF into FM to be able to generate a single
PDF file.



Is it possible to incorporate that existing PDF , as is, into the PDF that
I'll generate, so that the TOC, page numbering, etc. will all be there for
both PDFs? If yes, how?



If not, how would I create a link to that PDF in FM that will work from the
generated PDF? I think I've done it before, but it's been a long, long time.





Thanks in advance!



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[Mike Wickham]

 > Reading the manual might help here.

Good advice, but there hasn't been a FrameMaker manual since FM7. :) And 
online help often requires the use of specific search terms to find 
obscure information. Online help needs lots of work.

There is a really good video on using the new (as of FM9) interface. 
It's really helpful in learning about docking palettes, setting up 
workspaces, etc.. I didn't like the new interface until I saw this 
video. Now, I wouldn't go back. Here's the link:
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/tips-and-tricks-for-technical-communicators-to-maximize-productivity/getting-started-with-the-new-framemaker-9-user-interface/

Some of the settings in File> Preferences> Interface can also affect the 
behavior of palettes. I haven't followed this thread closely, but it 
might be worth looking at the settings there. It might be helpful to 
check out message #35 in the following thread, where I show an example 
of the workspace I use and the settings to get it: 
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4039348

Regarding not being able to make the Object Properties dialog dock, it 
might depend on which one you mean. If you right-click on a selected 
text frame and choose Object Properties, a standalone "Customize Text 
Frame" dialog opens, but disappears when you click Set or Cancel. If you 
right-click on graphic objects, the Object Properties dialog opens and 
it is dockable (see example in my workspace mentioned above).

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[Fred Ridder]

Mike Wickham wrote:

> Reading
  the manual might help here.



  Good advice, but there hasn't been a FrameMaker manual since FM7.
  :) 


Well, I suppose that's true if you are talking about a printed and bound ("dead 
tree") manual. But there certainly has been a PDF that calls itself tieh 
FrameMaker User Guide that is right there in the Documents folder within a 
standard FrameMaker installation. 

This is not to say that the manual is very comprehensive (it's not) or very 
useable (it's not, because the organization is not great and the index is 
useless). But it does exist, and it does cover some of the various issues that 
the OP has asked about. In general, the quality of the FrameMaker User Guide 
has gone steadily downhill since version 5.0, which was pre-Adobe. The manual 
shrank by about 30% for v5.5.6, and since then every addition to the manual 
seems to be offset by a similar sized deletion.

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Updating TOC Wipes Formatting

[Karen Robbins]

Here's what may be causing my problem: The TOC reference page has default
paragraph tags for HeadingATOC, HeadingBTOC, etc. But my document
has paragraph tags of Heading1TOC, Heading2TOC, etc.

I am not sure if I created (at some point in the distant past) the TOC
paragraph tags with that naming convention or how it came to be. Others
have muddled with these files before me, so it's hard to know.

I need to apply the style elements of my TOC tags to the default TOC tags,
then delete my tags and apply/use only the default tags (newly styled).
Then my TOC updates should be in better shape than they were before. ;-)

Thanks again,
Karen
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[Stuart Rogers]

On 2013-Aug-29 1:12 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:
> Here's what may be causing my problem: The TOC reference page has 
> default paragraph tags for HeadingATOC, HeadingBTOC, etc. But my 
> document has paragraph tags of Heading1TOC, Heading2TOC, etc.
>
> I am not sure if I created (at some point in the distant past) the TOC 
> paragraph tags with that naming convention or how it came to be. 
> Others have muddled with these files before me, so it's hard to know.
>
> I need to apply the style elements of my TOC tags to the default TOC 
> tags, then delete my tags and apply/use only the default tags (newly 
> styled). Then my TOC updates should be in better shape than they were 
> before. ;-)
>
> Thanks again,
> Karen
>
>

Karen,

Before you do that, check for another TOC flow on a different reference 
page. FM should have created it automagically when you generated the 
TOC. You can disregard (or delete) the page that contains the wrong tags.

s.

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

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[Karen Robbins]

Simply but effective idea, Ed. Thanks!
--Karen


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:10 AM, De Rosier, Edward <
Edward.DeRosier at anritsu.com> wrote:

> Hi Karen,
>
> On this framers list, probably within the last two years, someone offered
> a suggestion about those customized workspaces.
>
> Get the FM interface (all pods, etc.) organized the way you like them,
> then save the workspace with a name that you like.
>
> TIP (this was the suggestion from the experienced framer):
>Then resave the workspace with another name, as a backup.  I name mine
> ED_1 (for example), and then ED_1_BU.
>
> The purpose of the backup is that the workspace can get corrupted.  Rather
> than start over, you can then just set the backup workspace, and from
> there, you can recreate the original (in order to maintain an original plus
> a backup).
>
> Others have already offered suggestions about how you get the desired
> workspace initially, and I have too little experience to add to their great
> comments.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ed DeRosier
> Technical Writer
> Anritsu Company
>
>
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Updating TOC Wipes Formatting

[Karen Robbins]

Luckily, only one TOC reference page. And the formatting now seems to apply
when updating.

But now I have another problem. My TOC page contains other content
(credits, legalese, etc.) besides the TOC, which takes up only about half
the page. When updating the book, FM doesn't replace the existing TOC; it
adds a whole new TOC on a new page 1 of this file, pushing my existing
content (TOC and other) to page 2.

Of course I can copy and paste the new, updated TOC in place of the old
one. Or maybe some other way of getting it into position. But if FM is
supposedly deleting the existing TOC when updating, why didn't this happen?

Thanks,
Karen




On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Stuart Rogers <
srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com> wrote:

>  On 2013-Aug-29 1:12 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:
>
>   Here's what may be causing my problem: The TOC reference page has
> default paragraph tags for HeadingATOC, HeadingBTOC, etc. But my document
> has paragraph tags of Heading1TOC, Heading2TOC, etc.
>
>  I am not sure if I created (at some point in the distant past) the TOC
> paragraph tags with that naming convention or how it came to be. Others
> have muddled with these files before me, so it's hard to know.
>
>  I need to apply the style elements of my TOC tags to the default TOC
> tags, then delete my tags and apply/use only the default tags (newly
> styled). Then my TOC updates should be in better shape than they were
> before. ;-)
>
>  Thanks again,
> Karen
>
>
>
> Karen,
>
> Before you do that, check for another TOC flow on a different reference
> page. FM should have created it automagically when you generated the TOC.
> You can disregard (or delete) the page that contains the wrong tags.
>
> s.
>
> --
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
> Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
> http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
>
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[Carol J. Elkins]

I can second Mike's suggestion to watch RJ's video. I watched it 
immediately after upgrading to Frame 9 and it made the paradigm shift 
from Frame 7 so much smoother. A lot of people really struggled with 
how to manage the pods and panels on the new UI, but RJ made it easy 
to understand. Until you understand the power of being able to 
customize your UI, you will not be able to take full advantage of the 
FM versions that have been released since FM9 plus the other Adobe 
products that use that same UI now.

Carol

At 11:00 AM 8/29/2013, Mike Wickham wrote:
>There is a really good video on using the new (as of FM9) interface. 
>It's really helpful in learning about docking palettes, setting up 
>workspaces, etc.. I didn't like the new interface until I saw this 
>video. Now, I wouldn't go back. Here's the link:
>http://tv.adobe.com/watch/tips-and-tricks-for-technical-communicators-to-maximize-productivity/getting-started-with-the-new-framemaker-9-user-interface/

need to collaborate with a Word guru

[Chris Coggins]

Hey Carol,
Did you resolve this issue re: setting up Word styles to change text
formats within the same level in heading styles?

Chris



On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Carol J. Elkins
wrote:

>  Please contact me off list if you are an experienced Word user who is
> familiar with building templates in both Framemaker and MSWord. I've been
> asked to create a Word template that matches a Framemaker template that I
> designed and I'm really struggling with Word's paragraph numbering versus
> heading numbering styles. I need to set up styles to manage the following
> numbering scheme:
>
> *1.0 THIS IS HEADING 1
> *1.1. This is List Number 2
> *1.2. This is Heading 2
> *1.2.1. This is List Number 3
> *1.2.2. This is Heading 3
> *1.2.2.1. This is List Number 4
> *1.2.2.2. This is Heading 4
> *1.2.2.2.1. This is List Number 5
> *1.2.2.2.2. This is Heading 5
> *1.2.2.2.2.1. This is List Number 6
> *1.2.2.2.2.2. This is Heading 6
>
> 2.0 THIS IS HEADING 1
> *2.1. This is List Number 2
> *2.2. This is Heading 2
> *2.2.1. This is List Number 3
> *2.2.2. This is Heading 3
> *2.2.2.1. This is List Number 4
> *2.2.2.2. This is Heading 4
> *2.2.2.2.1. This is List Number 5
> *2.2.2.2.2. This is Heading 5
> *2.2.2.2.2.1. This is List Number 6
> *2.2.2.2.2.2. This is Heading 6
>
>
> *Carol
> **
>
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[Craig Ede]

The downloadable PDF from the help system is, in effect, the manual. I urge
everyone to download it and print it out. It's structure is far clearer than
it appears by clicking on links in the online bits & pieces.



I agree that the videos are very helpful and go far beyond the manual in
clarifying the concepts. Here's a post that I sent to this list in Feb of
2012:

> I'd suggest you go to:

> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/Using/index.html

> Click on the "Getting Started" link and play the video that is offered.

> That should help you to get through the transition. It sure helped me 

> realize how configurable (and resettable) the new interface is. It's 

> almost an hour long, so following along clicking in your own interface 

> can be pretty helpful for retention. Two screens are very useful to have
for that.

The instructions above lead to the same place as Mike's link in the message
I'm responding to.



Craig



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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:11 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Disappearing Palette Items



> Reading the manual might help here.

Good advice, but there hasn't been a FrameMaker manual since FM7. :) And
online help often requires the use of specific search terms to find obscure
information. Online help needs lots of work.

There is a really good video on using the new (as of FM9) interface. It's
really helpful in learning about docking palettes, setting up workspaces,
etc.. I didn't like the new interface until I saw this video. Now, I
wouldn't go back. Here's the link:
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/tips-and-tricks-for-technical-communicators-to-max
imize-productivity/getting-started-with-the-new-framemaker-9-user-interface/

Some of the settings in File> Preferences> Interface can also affect the
behavior of palettes. I haven't followed this thread closely, but it might
be worth looking at the settings there. It might be helpful to check out
message #35 in the following thread, where I show an example of the
workspace I use and the settings to get it:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4039348

Regarding not being able to make the Object Properties dialog dock, it might
depend on which one you mean. If you right-click on a selected text frame
and choose Object Properties, a standalone "Customize Text Frame" dialog
opens, but disappears when you click Set or Cancel. If you right-click on
graphic objects, the Object Properties dialog opens and it is dockable (see
example in my workspace mentioned above).

Mike Wickham

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[De Rosier, Edward]

Hi Karen,

On this framers list, probably within the last two years, someone offered a 
suggestion about those customized workspaces.

Get the FM interface (all pods, etc.) organized the way you like them, then 
save the workspace with a name that you like.

TIP (this was the suggestion from the experienced framer):
   Then resave the workspace with another name, as a backup.  I name mine ED_1 
(for example), and then ED_1_BU.

The purpose of the backup is that the workspace can get corrupted.  Rather than 
start over, you can then just set the backup workspace, and from there, you can 
recreate the original (in order to maintain an original plus a backup).

Others have already offered suggestions about how you get the desired workspace 
initially, and I have too little experience to add to their great comments.

Best wishes,

Ed DeRosier
Technical Writer
Anritsu Company

Disappearing Palette Items

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

I have not had any menus disappear in the past 18 months, but while working 
with FM9 and FM10 while in the translation industry, I did determine one 
possible cause of problems. I worked on two screens at home, and had some 
saved/named workspaces that had catalogs or palette on my laptop screen, with 
main work areas and common menus on my "Cinerama" external monitor.

When I went on the road and used my laptop, I would usually find all floating 
palettes and menus would appear over the workspace. If I didn't revise and save 
the workspace, when I returned home to two screen, occasionally a pallet would 
be in "outer space" ... not visible.

The best cure that I found was to toggle the FrameMaker window from full screen 
to smaller, resizable; that always made everything reappear.

For what it's worth, I haven't had any workspace items disappear since I came 
to work for Adobe 19 months ago, when I was granted a new Lenovo laptop and 
Windows 7. Personally, (we all experience different things), I had more 
problems with my older, 2008 laptop running WinXP with all the latest security 
updates.



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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:29 PM
To: 'Karen Robbins'; 'Framer's List'
Subject: RE: Disappearing Palette Items

Reading the manual might help here.

The workspace menu doesn't read "Authoring" unless you have chosen the 
Authoring workspace environment. That button "name" just shows what you current 
workspace environment is set to. Mine can be Craig's Custom, Authoring, Design, 
Review, Structured Authoring, or others.
Your palette items are disappearing because you are closing them. Docking them 
will retain them, but if you undock them and then close them, they have to 
reopened to reappear.

Reading the manual will help you understand how they work and what logic drives 
their functioning.

Craig

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lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com]<mailto:[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]> On 
Behalf Of Karen Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:45 PM
To: Stuart Rogers; framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at 
lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Disappearing Palette Items

Actually, they disappear IN THE MIDDLE OF WORKING on a single document/book or 
multiple documents, not just on close! What a sad state of user interface 
affairs FM has fallen into. :-)
I now realize that the "workspace menu" everyone keeps referring to is actually 
the button that reads "Authoring"!
And while I can restore most of what I want to be in there, for some reason I 
can't get Object Properties back there, it only wants to exist as a 
free-standing window/part of the designer (which also won't move into the 
docked set). Sigh.
Thanks all,
Karen
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Conditional formatting lost when pressing Enter?

[Jaime Zuniga]

Hi Everyone,

How do I maintain conditional formatting on text from one paragraph to the next.

For example, if I am typing text in a certain condition and I need to create a 
new paragraph in that same condition I want to be able to just press Enter and 
keep typing in that same condition. Every time that I press Enter I lose the 
conditional formatting in the new paragraph.

I know that I can just select the new paragraph and assign the condition to it 
manually, but I want to avoid that extra step, if possible.

Any help would be appreciated.

Jaime

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