RE: If money is no object
I'd go with Author-it. Contains both the CMS and editing environment, allows publication to multiple formats incl FrameMaker, and will scale easily to the numbers you need. You can host the database either on your own systems, or use a cloud-based version. Note: the company I work for is related to the European branch of Author-it. If you want to know more, feel free to contact me off-list. Kind regards, Harro de Jong Technical Writer Triview Technical Communication Head Office : Nieuweweg 91b, 3765GC Soest, The Netherlands UK Office : 11 Tamworth Road, Lichfield, Staffordshire WS14 9EY, England Phone: +31 (0)35 602 9696 (menu 221) | Mobile: -- mailto:harro.dej...@triviewgroup.com | www.triviewgroup.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com [john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com] Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 20:22 To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com) Subject: If money is no object Hi, guys... If money was no object (as long as justified), and you were currently using FrameMaker with no CMS to manage 20,000 pages by a single author, what combination of authoring front end and CMS backend would you consider for a document database 10X larger with multiple authors around the world? John X Posada AML Syst Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC RC Systems Control Analytics | HSBC North America Holdings Inc 330 Madison Ave., NY NY ___ Phone Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: Personal Cellphone - 732-259-2874 Fax Conference Bridge - 877-304-0052, Code 74809254 Email john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com ___ Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to! - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as harro.dej...@triviewgroup.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/harro.dejong%40triviewgroup.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 10 sometimes changes graphics paths
I suspect what's happening here is that FM won't accept the relative path because it does not exist. If you put the file in F:\Customer\project\translation\incoming\x\x\x\x it would probably preserve it. Correct, I tried that and it works. Kind regards, Harro de Jong Triview Technical Communication ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 10 sometimes changes graphics paths
hi all, I recently ran into an issue: we received a set of FrameMaker files for translation. After we sent the translated files back to the customer, they complained that all of the image paths in their files were changed. They were using relative paths that had lots of 'parent' references: ..\..\..\..\..\..\Graphics\etc When I received these files, I placed them in a directory 4 levels deep: F:\Customer\project\translation\incoming\blah.fm When I opened this file Frame asked for the location of external graphics. I selected 'Ignore all missing files' and saved the file as MIF. When I inspected the MIF, the graphics paths were truncated to ..\..\..\..\Graphics\etc So the path gets truncated to the number of levels available from the current location. When I store the file on an UNC path, it gets worse: \\Server\Customer\project\translation\incoming\blah.fmfile:///\\Server\Customer\project\translation\incoming\blah.fm graphics paths: \\Graphics\etc In my opinion, this is a bug. When I select 'Ignore all missing files', Frame should leave the existing paths alone. Has anyone else seen the same behavior? Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Spell-checking not foolproof
Steve Rickaby wrote: A typo in the book I'm working on spelled 'upwardss'. It goes through spell checking just fine. So I told FrameMaker to unlearn 'upwardss', and it said it had. But it still didn't trigger a spelling violation. Are you sure the paragraph or character format of that word doesn't have its language set to 'None'? That would prevent it from being checked. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7
Robert Lauriston wrote: I think buying more than 4GB of RAM would be a waste of money for most tech writers. There's one exception I'm running into at the moment: working with 3d CAD files. I'm using Solidworks Explorer to generate images for a manual; with the entire machine model loaded (a ~100 MB file), Solidworks Explorer happily eats 10+ GB of memory. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer
Harro de Jong wrote: You can add or modify any shortcut you want. In the folder FrameMaker\fminit\configui you can find a couple of files that contain all of the shortcuts. The instructions are no longer included with newer versions of FrameMaker. IIRC Frame 7 included a PDF with instructions. You can either modify the existing files, or (better) create a file named customui.cfg This should contain entries in the vein of: Modify CharacterDefaultPgfFont KeySequence /F8 Modify ZoomInKeySequence ^ i Modify ZoomOut KeySequence ^ u 'CharacterDefaultPgfFont' is a string you can find in the other .cfg files. Find the string for the command you want to modify, and create a line in customui.cfg. ;the semicolon indicates a comment modifier keys: + for Shift, ^ for Control, ~ for Alt, \ for Esc The last instruction contains an error, you need to type \! instead of \ for Esc. Harro de Jong Triview Technical Communication ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer
Craig Ede wrote: I'd love to see all the old Mac shortcut keys to the interface (substituting Ctrl for the Apple key) as keystroke options. You can add or modify any shortcut you want. In the folder FrameMaker\fminit\configui you can find a couple of files that contain all of the shortcuts. The instructions are no longer included with newer versions of FrameMaker. IIRC Frame 7 included a PDF with instructions. You can either modify the existing files, or (better) create a file named customui.cfg This should contain entries in the vein of: Modify CharacterDefaultPgfFont KeySequence /F8 Modify ZoomIn KeySequence ^ i Modify ZoomOut KeySequence ^ u 'CharacterDefaultPgfFont' is a string you can find in the other .cfg files. Find the string for the command you want to modify, and create a line in customui.cfg. ;the semicolon indicates a comment modifier keys: + for Shift, ^ for Control, ~ for Alt, \ for Esc Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker freaks me out
Steve Rickaby wrote: At some point while editing yesterday, and I'm not sure what I was doing, *every chapter* in the book I'm working on started displaying all its text as if someone had picked it up and randomly scattered it across the page - complete loss of vertical leading, and sideways shifts as well. It was clearly something internal to FrameMaker's display engine, as opening unopened chapters showed the same thing. I've seen this occasionally in the past, though rarely on freshly opened files. In my experience it's a display issue that doesn't affect the data in the document. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client
Dr. Winfried Reng wrote: I also follow Dov's advice not to install Adobe Reader and Acrobat on the same PC. And I also recommend to use a virtual machine, if you really think you need Adobe Reader. The easiest way to set up a virtual machine (if you have Windows 7) is to use 'XP mode', a free VM image supplied by Microsoft that runs Windows XP. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-sg/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7 Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client
Dr. Winfried Reng wrote: > I also follow Dov's advice not to install Adobe Reader and Acrobat on the same > PC. And I also recommend to use a virtual machine, if you really think you > need > Adobe Reader. The easiest way to set up a virtual machine (if you have Windows 7) is to use 'XP mode', a free VM image supplied by Microsoft that runs Windows XP. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-sg/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7 Harro de Jong
RE: Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9
Karen Mann wrote: Hi everyone, Yep, got a problem. Customer using FM 11 wants some files saved back to FM Ver 9. Has always worked before not now. Using Times New Roman font. Individually saved FM 11 as .mif 7 - then opened .mif 7 in FM 9 and resaved as .fm for FM 9. Open the new FM 9 .fm file through FM9 and it opens the file. This time the file shows up in question marks. Have redone it 7 times results are same. Did I miss something. Anyone else having this issue? What language is this file in? This sounds a bit like the pre-Unicode situation where non-ASCII languages needed a custom font to be displayed correctly. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Saving back from FM v11 to FM v9
Karen Mann wrote: > > Hi everyone, > Yep, got a problem. > Customer using FM 11 wants some files saved back to FM Ver 9. Has always > worked before not now. Using Times New Roman font. Individually saved FM 11 > as .mif 7 - then opened .mif 7 in FM 9 and resaved as .fm for FM 9. Open the > new ?FM 9 .fm file ?through FM9 and it opens the file. This time the file > shows > up in question marks. Have redone it 7 times results are same. Did I miss > something. Anyone else having this issue? What language is this file in? This sounds a bit like the pre-Unicode situation where non-ASCII languages needed a custom font to be displayed correctly. Harro de Jong
RE: ExtendScript - how to open a file
Thanks to Rick Quatro I now have a working script. I didn't solve the problem with my script, btw. Rick provided me with a working 'shell' script for processing all the files in a book, so I used that method instead of my initial idea to process all the files in a directory. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ExtendScript - how to open a file
> Thanks to Rick Quatro I now have a working script. I didn't solve the problem with my script, btw. Rick provided me with a working 'shell' script for processing all the files in a book, so I used that method instead of my initial idea to process all the files in a directory. Harro de Jong
RE: ExtendScript - how to open a file
Harro de Jong wrote: I'm trying to create my first ExtendScript to automate converting a batch of FM11 documents to FM10. The goal is to point the script to a folder, and have it convert all FM files in this folder. Thanks to Rick Quatro I now have a working script. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bizarre mouse behavior with FrameMaker
Steve Rickaby wrote: ... only *very* occasionally, for a scroll page down, I get the current contents of the paste buffer followed by the ']' inserted into the text. Which is of course highly undesirable, especially if you don't notice it. It sounds like another application sees the Cmd-] shortcut and acts on it. Do you have any clipboard management apps? Or, it could be similar to a problem I sometimes have on my Mac: I've got an ancient Apple Extended Keyboard attached via an ADB-to-USB converter. Occasionally, it will munge some keystrokes. my Mac will come out as my;ac (even though I'm hitting the correct keys). Two keystrokes are seen as one if they're typed too quickly. You could try a different keyboard. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ExtendScript - how to open a file
Harro de Jong wrote: > > I'm trying to create my first ExtendScript to automate converting a batch of > FM11 documents to FM10. The goal is to point the script to a folder, and have > it > convert all FM files in this folder. Thanks to Rick Quatro I now have a working script. Harro de Jong Triview
Bizarre mouse behavior with FrameMaker
Steve Rickaby wrote: ... > only *very* occasionally, > for a scroll page down, I get the current contents of the paste buffer > followed > by the ']' inserted into the text. Which is of course highly undesirable, > especially > if you don't notice it. It sounds like another application sees the Cmd-] shortcut and acts on it. Do you have any clipboard management apps? Or, it could be similar to a problem I sometimes have on my Mac: I've got an ancient Apple Extended Keyboard attached via an ADB-to-USB converter. Occasionally, it will munge some keystrokes. " my Mac" will come out as "my;ac" (even though I'm hitting the correct keys). Two keystrokes are seen as one if they're typed too quickly. You could try a different keyboard. Harro de Jong Triview
ExtendScript - how to open a file
Hi all,
I'm trying to create my first ExtendScript to automate converting a batch of
FM11 documents to FM10. The goal is to point the script to a folder, and have
it convert all FM files in this folder.
I've cobbled together the following. I'm getting tripped up by the command to
open a file (var doc = app.open(bestand);). I copied this from a Photoshop
script, but it doesn't work in FrameMaker. The Extendscript IDE isn't very
helpful, and the few FrameMaker examples I've found all work on the active
document or book.
How do I open a file?
#target framemaker
var inputFolder = Folder.selectDialog(Input folder);
var outputFolder = Folder.selectDialog(Output folder);
var name, saveParams, i;
if (inputFolder != null outputFolder != null) {
var files = inputFolder.getFiles(*.fm);
for (var i = 0; i files.length; i++) {
var bestand = files[i];
var doc = app.open(bestand);
name = doc.Name;
saveParams = GetSaveDefaultParams();
returnParams = new PropVals();
i = GetPropIndex(saveParams, Constants.FS_FileType);
saveParams[i].propVal.ival
=Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary100;
doc.Save(name, saveParams, returnParams);
doc.Close(Constants.FF_CLOSE_MODIFIED);
doc.close(SaveOptions.DONOTSAVECHANGES);
$.writeln('File ' + (i + 1) + ' of ' + files.length + ' processed');
}
}
Kind regards,
Harro de Jong
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ExtendScript - how to open a file
Hi all,
I'm trying to create my first ExtendScript to automate converting a batch of
FM11 documents to FM10. The goal is to point the script to a folder, and have
it convert all FM files in this folder.
I've cobbled together the following. I'm getting tripped up by the command to
open a file (var doc = app.open(bestand);). I copied this from a Photoshop
script, but it doesn't work in FrameMaker. The Extendscript IDE isn't very
helpful, and the few FrameMaker examples I've found all work on the active
document or book.
How do I open a file?
#target "framemaker"
var inputFolder = Folder.selectDialog("Input folder");
var outputFolder = Folder.selectDialog("Output folder");
var name, saveParams, i;
if (inputFolder != null && outputFolder != null) {
var files = inputFolder.getFiles("*.fm");
for (var i = 0; i < files.length; i++) {
var bestand = files[i];
var doc = app.open(bestand);
name = doc.Name;
saveParams = GetSaveDefaultParams();
returnParams = new PropVals();
i = GetPropIndex(saveParams, Constants.FS_FileType);
saveParams[i].propVal.ival
=Constants.FV_SaveFmtBinary100;
doc.Save(name, saveParams, returnParams);
doc.Close(Constants.FF_CLOSE_MODIFIED);
doc.close(SaveOptions.DONOTSAVECHANGES);
$.writeln('File ' + (i + 1) + ' of ' + files.length + ' processed');
}
}
Kind regards,
Harro de Jong
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RE: Is my beloved tool withering on the vine?
Matt Sullivan wrote: FWIW, Flare isn't a structured authoring app, and I don't know enough about AuthorIt to weigh in on it. Author-it offers structured authoring and DITA output as options. Harro de Jong Triview Technical Communication ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Is my beloved tool withering on the vine?
Matt Sullivan wrote: > > FWIW, Flare isn't a structured authoring app, and I don't know enough about > AuthorIt to weigh in on it. Author-it offers structured authoring and DITA output as options. Harro de Jong Triview Technical Communication
RE: Is my beloved tool withering on the vine?
Grace wrote: I have been a user of Framemaker since version 5.0..time flies. I would like to get feedback from the group to see what your thoughts are regarding the tool. I actually use Framemaker with both PatternStream and Mif2go. Given this tool set I am wondering if new tools like AuthorIt and Flare are worthy replacements. Is it time for me to go back to school and learn yet another tool? My use of frame maker is primarily for the creation and management of polices, procedures, training documents for multiple facilities. There has been a big push to get out documents standardized as much as possible. Any feedback would be appreciated. In my opinion FrameMaker isn't 'withering on the vine'. It's better than ever (barring some problems with the user interface) and it's still in active development. If it meets your needs, I wouldn't change a thing. If reuse of content between documents is a requirement, you may run into Frame's limitations. If you reuse small blocks of text via text insets, cross-referencing to those insets is a problem. If you use conditional text, there comes a point where the conditions are no longer manageable. If FrameMaker's reuse options no longer meet your needs, Author-it (and Flare presumably, although I've no experience with it) is a possible replacement. By putting content fragments in a database, Author-it allows fine-grained reuse of sections, paragraphs or individual sentences. Kind regards, Harro de Jong Triview Technical Communication disclaimer: we're an Author-it reseller ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Who won the Content Strategy Tools Survey contest?
Carol J. Elkins wrote a few weeks ago: When we all completed the Content Strategy Tools Survey, we were told we'd be entered into a contest. Adobe said the winners would be announced by email during the week of October 7. I'm always fearful that my winning notification will be marked as spam, so I was comforted when Adobe said that The Winner's details will be published on our blog https://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/ and also on the following public forums for a period of one month. the announcement just went up today: https://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/11/congratulations-to-adobe-tech-comm-content-strategy-tool-survey-winners.html Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Is my beloved tool withering on the vine?
Grace wrote: > I have been a user of Framemaker since version 5.0..time flies. ?I would like > to > get feedback from the group to see what your thoughts are regarding the > tool. ?I actually use Framemaker with both PatternStream and Mif2go. Given > this tool set I am wondering if new tools like AuthorIt and Flare are worthy > replacements. ?Is it time for me to go back to school and learn yet another > tool? > > My use of frame maker is primarily for the creation and management of > polices, procedures, training documents for multiple facilities. There has > been > a big push to get out documents standardized as much as possible. Any > feedback would be appreciated. In my opinion FrameMaker isn't 'withering on the vine'. It's better than ever (barring some problems with the user interface) and it's still in active development. If it meets your needs, I wouldn't change a thing. If reuse of content between documents is a requirement, you may run into Frame's limitations. If you reuse small blocks of text via text insets, cross-referencing to those insets is a problem. If you use conditional text, there comes a point where the conditions are no longer manageable. If FrameMaker's reuse options no longer meet your needs, Author-it (and Flare presumably, although I've no experience with it) is a possible replacement. By putting content fragments in a database, Author-it allows fine-grained reuse of sections, paragraphs or individual sentences. Kind regards, Harro de Jong Triview Technical Communication disclaimer: we're an Author-it reseller
Who won the Content Strategy & Tools Survey contest?
Carol J. Elkins wrote a few weeks ago: > When we all completed the Content Strategy & Tools Survey, we were told > we'd be entered into a contest. Adobe said the winners would be announced by > email during the week of October 7. I'm always fearful that my winning > notification will be marked as spam, so I was comforted when Adobe said that > "The Winner's details will be published on our blog > https://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/ and also on the following public forums > for a period of one month. the announcement just went up today: < https://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2013/11/congratulations-to-adobe-tech-comm-content-strategy-tool-survey-winners.html> Harro de Jong
RE: Font info disappears from x-ref format
In the FM documents (FM-9) of a customer a special symbol inside an x-ref format loses its font information - only from time to time, but quite frequently. The symbol is then displayed as 2 rather than the page-symbol. Refreshing the screen with CTRL+l does not help. The only bypass is to save the document, close it and open it again. It happens on XP as well as on W7. The x-ref format: X:CrossRef$paranum,\ U:SpecialSymbolsU:Black2Default ¶ FontX:CrossRef\ $chapnum- $pagenumDefault ¶ Font The character formats are: X:CrossRef Color blue, Pair Kern U:SpecialSymbols Wingdings, 9.0pt, others: as-is U:BlackColor black, Pair Kern Could the reason be in the accumulation of character formats? Yes, FrameMaker has never been able to nest character tags. As soon as you apply the second tag, the first is seen as an override. You'll have to combine U:SpecialSymbols and U:Black into one new tag. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Font info disappears from x-ref format
> In the FM documents (FM-9) of a customer a special symbol inside an x-ref > format loses its font information - only from time to time, but quite > frequently. > The symbol is then displayed as 2 rather than the page-symbol. Refreshing the > screen with CTRL+l does not help. The only bypass is to save the document, > close it and open it again. It happens on XP as well as on W7. > > The x-ref format: > <$paranum>,\ 2 Font>\ <$chapnum>- <$pagenum> > > The character formats are: > X:CrossRef Color blue, Pair Kern > U:SpecialSymbols Wingdings, 9.0pt, others: as-is > U:BlackColor black, Pair Kern > > Could the reason be in the accumulation of character formats? Yes, FrameMaker has never been able to nest character tags. As soon as you apply the second tag, the first is seen as an override. You'll have to combine U:SpecialSymbols and U:Black into one new tag. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: QUESTION ABOUT A NONPRINTING CHARACTER (WAS: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking)
VLM TechSubs wrote: Which has given me an idea. Perhaps I should just put some nonprinting character into all those empty chapter heading paragraphs, so that they no longer appear empty to FrameMaker. QUESTION: What character to use. I don’t wish to alter the spacing (centering) of these headings. I could use a thin space, the effect of which on alignment would be minimal. But is there a nonprinting character I could use, that will not affect alignment at all and that will not have any adverse effect? This shouldn't be necessary. Frame will not trip over an empty paragraph. And when you refer to an empty paragraph, a marker will be placed in the paragraph and it won't be empty anymore. You're better off switching on View-Text Symbols so you can see where the empty paragraphs (and markers) are. But why refer to empty headings in the first place? I assume you don't know yet what the title will be, but if that's the case, how can you refer to something if you haven't decided what you will be referring to? Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
QUESTION ABOUT A NONPRINTING CHARACTER (WAS: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking)
VLM TechSubs wrote: > > Which has given me an idea. Perhaps I should just put some nonprinting > character into all those empty chapter heading paragraphs, so that they no > longer appear empty to FrameMaker. QUESTION: What character to use. I > don?t wish to alter the spacing (centering) of these headings. I could use a > thin > space, the effect of which on alignment would be minimal. But is there a > nonprinting character I could use, that will not affect alignment at all and > that > will not have any adverse effect? This shouldn't be necessary. Frame will not trip over an empty paragraph. And when you refer to an empty paragraph, a marker will be placed in the paragraph and it won't be empty anymore. You're better off switching on View->Text Symbols so you can see where the empty paragraphs (and markers) are. But why refer to empty headings in the first place? I assume you don't know yet what the title will be, but if that's the case, how can you refer to something if you haven't decided what you will be referring to? Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
Craig Ede wrote: Framemaker can take quite a while to do some things, so it's important to know the difference between a crash and a FrameMaker is not responding message. The latter means Wait until I complete this task. The former is accompanied by a crash message and exiting from FrameMaker. Very seldom do I see crashes that don't have the crash window message (which contains the opportunity of send the logs to Adobe for analysis to improve the product). This is a good point. Windows 7 is much quicker than older Windows versions to stick the label Not responding on an application when that application stops updating the UI (because it's busy with something else). In older versions, when the Not responding label appeared, you generally knew your application had crashed. In Windows 7, this isn't true anymore. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!
Craig Ede wrote: > > Framemaker can take quite a while to do some things, so it's important to know > the difference between a crash and a "FrameMaker is not responding" > message. The latter means "Wait until I complete this task." The former is > accompanied by a crash message and exiting from FrameMaker. Very seldom > do I see crashes that don't have the crash window message (which contains the > opportunity of send the logs to Adobe for analysis to improve the product). This is a good point. Windows 7 is much quicker than older Windows versions to stick the label "Not responding" on an application when that application stops updating the UI (because it's busy with something else). In older versions, when the "Not responding" label appeared, you generally knew your application had crashed. In Windows 7, this isn't true anymore. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Chapter numbers
Alastair Dent wrote: I have documents that start with a tag called 'ChapTitle' and some that start with Heading1. The reference pages are set up so that pages with 'ChapTitle' on them will use the 'First' master page. This has a header with the chapter number in it. Pages starting with Heading1 are Right/Left and don't have a chapternumber Every file in the book is set to 'Continue Numbering from Previous Chapter in book'. The chapter numbers increment correctly. The document with a Heading1 tag should show the numbering '3.1'. It doesn't, it shows '4.1'. The chapter number has incremented. Why is this? It sounds like you've got two numbering systems going on. One uses $Chapnum, the other uses paragraph numbers instead. You can influence the $Chapnum numbering with the Format-Document-Numbering dialog, tab 'Chapter' You can influence the paragraph numbering with the Format-Document-Numbering dialog, tab 'Paragraph'. Check the Numbering properties of the ChapTitle and the Heading1 paragraph tags. You should use the same numbering system in all para tags that have a paragraph number. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: 7.2 to 11 Upgrade and reference pages
David Millis wrote: I recently upgraded from Frame 7.2 to 11 and have found that some of my reference page elements didn't make the transition very well. I have 2-column, 1-row tables with Note, Important, or Warning in the first cell. These labels are non-anchored frames in the reference page and appeared just fine in Frame 7.2 body pages. In Frame 11, these labels are cut off so that when I insert one of these tables into the body, the Note label displays No, Important displays Import, and Warning displays Warn. My question is 2-part: First, how do I adjust these unanchored frames in the Reference page so that when I insert a new one of these tables, the full word displays in the first cell? My second question is: Is there a way to fix all of the existing tables globally that are already in the document so I don't have to manually stretch the first cell on every occurrence of these tables in each of my projects? 1. How did you use the reference page elements? Are they in a reference page flow that is linked to a paragraph style? Or did you just use the reference page as a convenient source to copy the table from every time you needed it. 2. How do the tables get cut off? Are the cells smaller in FM11? Or has the text position in the cells changed so the text won't fit any more? Depending on what has happened, you may have to change the cell properties, or the paragraph style. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Chapter numbers
Alastair Dent wrote: > I have documents that start with a tag called 'ChapTitle' and some that start > with Heading1. > > The reference pages are set up so that pages with 'ChapTitle' on them will use > the 'First' master page. This has a header with the chapter number in it. > Pages > starting with Heading1 are Right/Left and don't have a chapternumber > > Every file in the book is set to 'Continue Numbering from Previous Chapter in > book'. > > The chapter numbers increment correctly. > > The document with a Heading1 tag should show the numbering '3.1'. It doesn't, > it shows '4.1'.? The chapter number has incremented. > > Why is this? It sounds like you've got two numbering systems going on. One uses <$Chapnum>, the other uses paragraph numbers instead. You can influence the <$Chapnum> numbering with the Format-Document-Numbering dialog, tab 'Chapter' You can influence the paragraph numbering with the Format-Document-Numbering dialog, tab 'Paragraph'. Check the Numbering properties of the ChapTitle and the Heading1 paragraph tags. You should use the same numbering system in all para tags that have a paragraph number. Harro de Jong
7.2 to 11 Upgrade and reference pages
David Millis wrote: > I recently upgraded from Frame 7.2 to 11 and have found that some of my > reference page elements didn't make the transition very well. > > I have 2-column, 1-row tables with "Note", "Important", or "Warning" in the > first cell. These labels are non-anchored frames in the reference page and > appeared just fine in Frame 7.2 body pages. In Frame 11, these labels are cut > off so that when I insert one of these tables into the body, the "Note" label > displays "No", "Important" displays "Import", and "Warning" displays "Warn". > > My question is 2-part: First, how do I adjust these unanchored frames in the > Reference page so that when I insert a new one of these tables, the full word > displays in the first cell? > > My second question is: Is there a way to "fix" all of the existing tables > globally > that are already in the document so I don't have to manually stretch the first > cell on every occurrence of these tables in each of my projects? 1. How did you use the reference page elements? Are they in a reference page flow that is linked to a paragraph style? Or did you just use the reference page as a convenient source to copy the table from every time you needed it. 2. How do the tables get cut off? Are the cells smaller in FM11? Or has the text position in the cells changed so the text won't fit any more? Depending on what has happened, you may have to change the cell properties, or the paragraph style. Harro de Jong
Correction and reference pages for <$paranum> query
Robert CH Shell wrote: > the relevant paragraph in the relevant Reference page specification look like > this > > <$paranum><$paratext> <$pagenum> Are you sure that this is the correct Reference page frame? I've had situations where I ended up with two TOC frames on my reference pages, so I'd be changing one frame and getting frustrated because my changes were ignored, when in fact the TOC was using the other frame. Check by adding something obvious to the line, like TEST <$paranum><$paratext> <$pagenum> Harro de Jong Triview
RE: One of my FM11 files has become Read-only
John Posada wrote: Hi, guys...one of the files inmy book (it has about 400 files) has become read only. I don't know how it happened. When I open the file and try to select content, the frame gets selected. As far as I know, it kis (or was) Flow A. This symptom sounds like you've selected the arrow (top right in the Graphic Tools panel) instead of Smart Select (top left in the Graphic Tools). Normally, if a file is set to read-only in FrameMaker, the symptoms are missing menu items (you can't save or edit, and the only menus shown are File, Edit, Navigation, Window, Help). To unlock a file, type Esc Flk (note the uppercase F, lowercase L, lowercase K). But I've just tried this, and in a locked file I can't select the text frame at all. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
One of my FM11 files has become Read-only
John Posada wrote: > Hi, guys...one of the files inmy book (it has about 400 files) has become read > only. I don't know how it happened. > > When I open the file and try to select content, the frame gets selected. As > far > as I know, it kis (or was) Flow A. This symptom sounds like you've selected the arrow (top right in the Graphic Tools panel) instead of Smart Select (top left in the Graphic Tools). Normally, if a file is set to read-only in FrameMaker, the symptoms are missing menu items (you can't save or edit, and the only menus shown are File, Edit, Navigation, Window, Help). To unlock a file, type Esc Flk (note the uppercase F, lowercase L, lowercase K). But I've just tried this, and in a locked file I can't select the text frame at all. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Translating FM files into Japonese
Stephen O'Brien wrote: ... The translator is charging reasonable translation costs and then there is an additional 12$/page cost because the files are from FrameMaker. When we questioned that cost, he asked if we could provide files in Trados format. Maybe he is not familiar with FrameMaker files. Anyway, I find this strange as in the past I have always provided FM files and the company doing the translation took care of everything else on their side. I received my Fm files translated into the target language from which I made PDFs. Can anyone familiar with translating FM files explain why the individual is requesting files in Trados format? Can that be done - just pay a company to generate Trados files from FM files? The additional cost would be to import the translated files into FrameMaker and check the page layouts, correct the pagination, set up a Japanese template etc. Trados can import and export MIF files, but not .fm files. If you provide the MIFs to the translator and he sets up Trados appropriately [1], he should be able to translate the files, then it's up to you to convert them back and do the layout checks. 1: there are some settings he needs to do so that Trados can differentiate between editable text and FM tags. If this isn't done correctly, the translator can corrupt autonumbering, cross-references etc. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Translating FM files into Japonese
Stephen O'Brien wrote: ... > The translator is charging reasonable translation costs and then there is an > additional 12$/page cost because the files are from FrameMaker. When we > questioned that cost, he asked if we could provide files in Trados format. > Maybe he is not familiar with FrameMaker files. > > Anyway, I find this strange as in the past I have always provided FM files and > the company doing the translation took care of everything else on their side. > I > received my Fm files translated into the target language from which I made > PDFs. > > Can anyone familiar with translating FM files explain why the individual is > requesting files in Trados format? Can that be done - just pay a company to > generate Trados files from FM files? The additional cost would be to import the translated files into FrameMaker and check the page layouts, correct the pagination, set up a Japanese template etc. Trados can import and export MIF files, but not .fm files. If you provide the MIFs to the translator and he sets up Trados appropriately [1], he should be able to translate the files, then it's up to you to convert them back and do the layout checks. 1: there are some settings he needs to do so that Trados can differentiate between editable text and FM tags. If this isn't done correctly, the translator can corrupt autonumbering, cross-references etc. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Adjust paste to be paste/special
Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote: The entry which you should copy is: ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, MIFW, MIF, RTF, OLE 2, META, EMF, DIB, BMP, UNICODE TEXT, TEXT Change it so that UNICODE TEXT is at the beginning of the list. note that this effectively changes Ctrl-V to 'paste as text', not 'Paste Special'. It's probably what you wanted, but on the offchance that you really want to map Ctrl-V to open the Paste Special menu: go to the folder FrameMaker location \fminit\configui If the file customui.cfg exists, open it with a text editor. If it doesn't exist, create a new text file with that name. Add the following line to customui.cfg: Modify PasteSpecial KeySequence ^v Save and close the file, then restart Frame. Note that this modification means that the Paste Special menu opens every time you press Ctrl-V. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adjust paste to be paste/special
Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote: > The entry which you should copy is: > ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, MIFW, MIF, RTF, OLE 2, META, EMF, DIB, > BMP, UNICODE TEXT, TEXT Change it so that UNICODE TEXT is at the beginning > of the list. note that this effectively changes Ctrl-V to 'paste as text', not 'Paste Special'. It's probably what you wanted, but on the offchance that you really want to map Ctrl-V to open the Paste Special menu: go to the folder \fminit\configui If the file customui.cfg exists, open it with a text editor. If it doesn't exist, create a new text file with that name. Add the following line to customui.cfg: > Save and close the file, then restart Frame. Note that this modification means that the Paste Special menu opens every time you press Ctrl-V. Harro de Jong Triview
Crop marks on PDF
Carol J. Elkins wrote: > HOWEVER, I don't want all of the registration marks; I want only trim > marks. So I need to do this in Acrobat, not Frame. I cannot get > Acrobat set up to do this correctly. I've located the Add Printer > Marks toolbar, but I can't get it to work. I suspect that the printed > page size needs to be bigger than the page size defined by the trim > marks. However, I can't define a different page size in the PDF file; > that needs to be done in Frame. But I don't want Frame to change the > PDF output's page size. In Acrobat X, the tool you're looking for is in Tools> Print Production>Set page boxes Despite the name, this dialog also allows you to change the page size. Make sure to apply the new page size to all pages and not just the current one. Then you can add the registration marks. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Converting Older Frame Files to Frame 10: Cannot Lock File Error Message
You may have two problems: 1. file permissions in Windows 2. file set as read-only in FrameMaker. You've solved 1. for 2. the symptoms are missing menu items (you can't save or edit, and the only menus shown are File, Edit, Navigation, Window, Help). To unlock a file, type Esc Flk (note the uppercase F, lowercase L, lowercase K). Harro de Jong todd.bers...@teradyne.com wrote: I just received a batch of 200+ FrameMaker 4, 5.5, and 6 files that I need to get into Frame 10 and then convert into Word and PDF. However, when I try to open them in either Frame 7 or Frame 10, I get the following error message: Cannot lock this file for your use. Your changes to it may conflict with the work of other users. File file path name. When I click Continue the file opens, but I cannot edit it or use the Save As button, since it is not available. I tried changing permissions on all the files, which appeared to be successful since they no longer indicate that they are read-only and the security settings have grey checkmarks indicating I have write permissions. After changing permissions, the error message no longer comes up, but I still can't edit the files and do not have access to the Save As command. But clearly, some setting in the old Frame file is prohibiting me from editing the file. I can print a PDF file, and then use Acrobat to save it into a Word file, but this is a very roundabout way to get these files into Frame 10. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Converting Older Frame Files to Frame 10: Cannot Lock File Error Message
You may have two problems: 1. file permissions in Windows 2. file set as read-only in FrameMaker. You've solved 1. for 2. the symptoms are missing menu items (you can't save or edit, and the only menus shown are File, Edit, Navigation, Window, Help). To unlock a file, type Esc Flk (note the uppercase F, lowercase L, lowercase K). Harro de Jong todd.bersley at teradyne.com wrote: I just received a batch of 200+ FrameMaker 4, 5.5, and 6 files that I need to get into Frame 10 and then convert into Word and PDF. However, when I try to open them in either Frame 7 or Frame 10, I get the following error message: "Cannot lock this file for your use. Your changes to it may conflict with the work of other users. File ". When I click Continue the file opens, but I cannot edit it or use the Save As button, since it is not available. I tried changing permissions on all the files, which appeared to be successful since they no longer indicate that they are read-only and the security settings have grey checkmarks indicating I have write permissions. After changing permissions, the error message no longer comes up, but I still can't edit the files and do not have access to the Save As command. But clearly, some setting in the old Frame file is prohibiting me from editing the file. I can print a PDF file, and then use Acrobat to save it into a Word file, but this is a very roundabout way to get these files into Frame 10.
RE: Modifying FM's default R/L master pages
Gay Alson wrote: Hello, Framers, FrameMaker imposes Right/Left master pages that can’t be deleted, although they can be modified—or so I thought. In one template, I changed the orientation of the default R/L master pages from Portrait to Landscape. However, after PDFing a book consisting of several chapters, some using the modified Right/Left and others using the default (portrait) Right/Left master pages, the result is all Portrait pages. To me this indicates that the PDFing procedure applied the same master pages to all pages. Is there a way around this? (Previously I used custom Landscape Right and Left pages but that caused other problems, which I hoped to avoid by just using default R L master pages that had been modified. ) Any wisdom will be greatly appreciated. This could be a combination of two issues: 1. I seem to remember FrameMaker sometimes has trouble creating a PDF when a book contains a mix of landscape and portrait pages. The resulting PDF will contain only one page orientation, the landscape pages will be rotated. The solution was to create a .ps file, then drop this on Distiller. 2. After you import master pages into a book, you have to apply them. If you have set up a Master Page Mapping Table, you can do this automatically. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Modifying FM's default R/L master pages
Gay Alson wrote: > Hello, Framers, > FrameMaker imposes Right/Left master pages that can?t be deleted, although > they > can be modified?or so I thought. > In one template, I changed the orientation of the default R/L master pages > from > Portrait to Landscape. However, after PDFing a book consisting of several > chapters, > some using the modified Right/Left and others using the default (portrait) > Right/Left > master pages, the result is all Portrait pages. > To me this indicates that the PDFing procedure applied the same master pages > to all > pages. Is there a way around this? > (Previously I used custom Landscape Right and Left pages but that caused other > problems, which I hoped to avoid by just using default R & L master pages > that had > been modified. ) Any wisdom will be greatly appreciated. This could be a combination of two issues: 1. I seem to remember FrameMaker sometimes has trouble creating a PDF when a book contains a mix of landscape and portrait pages. The resulting PDF will contain only one page orientation, the landscape pages will be rotated. The solution was to create a .ps file, then drop this on Distiller. 2. After you import master pages into a book, you have to apply them. If you have set up a Master Page Mapping Table, you can do this automatically. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Drop shadow in Frame 11 tab text
I doubt it. I've currently got FM9 and 11 installed on the same system, FM9 is readable while FM11 shows these awful drop shadows. Harro de Jong From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Craig Ede [craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 23:12 To: Saunders, Ian; framers Subject: RE: Drop shadow in Frame 11 tab text It may have been something fixed in the OS and not in the FM application. Craig From: isaund...@enghouse.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Drop shadow in Frame 11 tab text Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 09:28:49 + Thanks guys! Do Adobe actually test their GUIs with real people? The text was perfectly readable in Frame 10. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Automate resolution of broken x-refs after renaming target files?
You can use Jesper Storm Bache's XtraBookUtils to change cross-references in bulk: http://www.bache.name/sgml.html Harro de Jong From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Steve Rickaby [srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 14:13 To: Duncan, Gary; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Automate resolution of broken x-refs after renaming target files? At 20:54 -0400 1/6/13, Duncan, Gary wrote: If I rename Frame files in a book, is it possible to automate changing the file names in cross-reference hypertext markers to repair the cross-references that will break? Specifically, we'd like to rename Frame files so that there are no spaces in the names (same characters in the file names but no spaces). I'd like to be able to search all cross-reference marker text to find file names with spaces and remove the spaces. As a 'quick and dirty' method, have you tried a search/replace on a MIF version of the file(s)? (Caveat: I have not tried this, but in MIF an xref contains the destination file name in the XRefSrcFile tag, so it should work.) -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as harro.dej...@triviewgroup.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/harro.dejong%40triviewgroup.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
"Drop shadow" in Frame 11 tab text
I doubt it. I've currently got FM9 and 11 installed on the same system, FM9 is readable while FM11 shows these awful drop shadows. Harro de Jong From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Craig Ede [craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 23:12 To: Saunders, Ian; framers Subject: RE: "Drop shadow" in Frame 11 tab text It may have been something "fixed" in the OS and not in the FM application. Craig > From: ISaunders at enghouse.com > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: "Drop shadow" in Frame 11 tab text > Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 09:28:49 + > > Thanks guys! > > Do Adobe actually test their GUIs with real people? The text was perfectly > readable in Frame 10. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130603/b1158833/attachment.html>
Automate resolution of broken x-refs after renaming target files?
You can use Jesper Storm Bache's XtraBookUtils to change cross-references in bulk: <http://www.bache.name/sgml.html> Harro de Jong From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Steve Rickaby [srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 14:13 To: Duncan, Gary; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Automate resolution of broken x-refs after renaming target files? At 20:54 -0400 1/6/13, Duncan, Gary wrote: >If I rename Frame files in a book, is it possible to automate changing the >file names in cross-reference hypertext markers to repair the cross-references >that will break? Specifically, we'd like to rename Frame files so that there >are no spaces in the names (same characters in the file names but no spaces). >I'd like to be able to search all cross-reference marker text to find file >names with spaces and remove the spaces. As a 'quick and dirty' method, have you tried a search/replace on a MIF version of the file(s)? (Caveat: I have not tried this, but in MIF an xref contains the destination file name in the XRefSrcFile tag, so it should work.) -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as harro.dejong at triviewgroup.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/harro.dejong%40triviewgroup.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Feature Request - Print to File Warning
Combs, Richard wrote: Second, it's a bad idea to keep changing printers from Adobe PDF to a physical printer and back again, which generally causes the available fonts to change, potentially affecting the formatting and pagination of the document. The last time I saw any formatting actually change when changing printers was 10 years ago, and that was when switching to a non-Postscript printer and an unusual font. Thankfully, FrameMaker is much better about this than, say, Word. Still, it bothers me that this is still an issue. Printer-based fonts should have died with the introduction of Ethernet. Why are we still saddled with this kludge? There's only one factor that should decide the layout of my document, and that's the application in which the document resides. In FM9, when I select a printer that's not 'Adobe PDF' and I try to 'Save as PDF', I get this message: When you create a PostScript file you must rely on system fonts and use document fonts. Please go to the printer properties, Adobe PDF Settings page and turn OFF the option Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts. I can't set this in the printer properties, so Save as PDF fails unless I select the Adobe PDF printer first. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Feature Request - Print to File Warning
Combs, Richard wrote: > > Second, it's a bad idea to keep changing printers from Adobe PDF to a physical > printer and back again, which generally causes the available fonts to change, > potentially affecting the formatting and pagination of the document. The last time I saw any formatting actually change when changing printers was 10 years ago, and that was when switching to a non-Postscript printer and an unusual font. Thankfully, FrameMaker is much better about this than, say, Word. Still, it bothers me that this is still an issue. Printer-based fonts should have died with the introduction of Ethernet. Why are we still saddled with this kludge? There's only one factor that should decide the layout of my document, and that's the application in which the document resides. In FM9, when I select a printer that's not 'Adobe PDF' and I try to 'Save as PDF', I get this message: When you create a PostScript file you must rely on system fonts and use document fonts. Please go to the printer properties, "Adobe PDF Settings" page and turn OFF the option "Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts." I can't set this in the printer properties, so Save as PDF fails unless I select the Adobe PDF printer first. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: I bought Framemaker 10 with a download - no CD - how do I reinstall with no CD
Dave Jacobi wrote: I have all the information from purchase. Or, how do I buy a CD now? I will have to rebuild my computer to get rid of a problem. The installer unpacks the installation files to a 'temporary' directory and installs from there. The 'temporary' directory is not deleted at the end of the installation process, so it may still be available. Its default location is C:\Adobe FrameMaker 10 (or something like that). Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Master pages' Room for Side Heads not being honoured
Mark Lehmann wrote: I have a book file containing all the usual suspects: a front matter file, TOC, LOF and LOT files, assorted chapter and appendix files, an IX (index) file and an end file. [FM10, Win7 SP3] I've created two master pages, Right_Index and Left_Index, and applied them to the appropriate pages in the IX file. The two IX master pages differ from the main Left and Right master pages in that they have Room for Side Heads un-ticked and Columns = 2, so that the IX pages are all 2-column with no room for sideheads (duh). I've propagated these two master pages to all other files in the book, and the IX pages look correct. So far, so good. But . . . After I import Page Layouts into the IX file from another file in the book, the IX pages all have Room for Side Heads ticked! Checking the IX file shows that Right_Index and Left_Index master pages are correctly applied, and they correctly show Room for Side Heads = off . . . but the document pages now all have Room for Side Heads = on. (And if I open master pages then go back to document pages, I'm NOT warned about overrides.) But behold, there's more: if I manually set Room for Side Heads = off for the main text frame on the first page of the IX file, ALL pages in the file come good. I've seen this behavior as well. The 'Room for sideheads' property is not recognized as an override of the master page. I think the reason is that 'Room for sideheads' is considered a property of the text flow, and not of the individual master page. Try setting the flow tag of your index pages to be different from the flow tag of the chapters. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Master pages' Room for Side Heads not being honoured
Mark Lehmann wrote: > > I have a book file containing all the usual suspects: a front matter file, > TOC, LOF > and LOT files, assorted chapter and appendix files, an IX > (index) file and an end file. [FM10, Win7 SP3] I've created two master pages, > Right_Index and Left_Index, and applied them to the appropriate pages in the > IX file. > The two IX master pages differ from the main Left and Right master pages in > that > they have Room for Side Heads un-ticked and Columns = 2, so that the IX pages > are all 2-column with no room for sideheads (duh). > I've propagated these two master pages to all other files in the book, and > the IX > pages look correct. > So far, so good. > > But . . . > After I import Page Layouts into the IX file from another file in the book, > the IX pages > all have Room for Side Heads ticked! > Checking the IX file shows that Right_Index and Left_Index master pages are > correctly applied, and they correctly show Room for Side Heads = off . . . > but the > document pages now all have Room for Side Heads = on. (And if I open master > pages then go back to document pages, I'm NOT warned about overrides.) But > behold, there's more: if I manually set Room for Side Heads = off for the > main text > frame on the first page of the IX file, ALL pages in the file come good. I've seen this behavior as well. The 'Room for sideheads' property is not recognized as an override of the master page. I think the reason is that 'Room for sideheads' is considered a property of the text flow, and not of the individual master page. Try setting the flow tag of your index pages to be different from the flow tag of the chapters. Harro de Jong Triview
I bought Framemaker 10 with a download - no CD - how do I reinstall with "no" CD
Dave Jacobi wrote: > I have all the information from purchase. > Or, how do I buy a CD now? > I will have to rebuild my computer to get rid of a problem. The installer unpacks the installation files to a 'temporary' directory and installs from there. The 'temporary' directory is not deleted at the end of the installation process, so it may still be available. Its default location is C:\Adobe FrameMaker 10 (or something like that). Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Unavailable font in BOOK file (not in book's files)
Mark Lehmann wrote: The Font is not available message appears when I open a particular book file - repeat, book file only. (Then when I then open the book file's files, they all open cleanly.) [FM10, Win7 SP3] Any ideas about how to fix this (apart from creating a new book file)? I've tried saving the book file as a MIF, but FrameMaker crashes when I click the Save button. That would be the solution, but it appears the book file is corrupt. Your best bet at this point is to recreate the book. Also: * Should I be able to save a book file as a MIF (so that I can rummage around in it)? yes. * Is Remember Missing Font Names specific to the individual file, or to the FM installation? (I need to distribute this book file.) It's specific to the FM installation. * I thought only Numbering and Pagination information was saved in a book file; now it seems that font information is in there as well. What else is saved in a book file? - colors - Character tags - Para tags - conditions - some xrefs Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Unavailable font in BOOK file (not in book's files)
Mark Lehmann wrote: > The "Font is not available" message appears when I open a particular book > file - > repeat, book file only. (Then when I then open the book file's files, they > all open > cleanly.) [FM10, Win7 SP3] Any ideas about how to fix this (apart from > creating a > new book file)? > > I've tried saving the book file as a MIF, but FrameMaker crashes when I click > the > Save button. That would be the solution, but it appears the book file is corrupt. Your best bet at this point is to recreate the book. > > Also: > * Should I be able to save a book file as a MIF (so that I can rummage around > in it)? yes. > * Is "Remember Missing Font Names" specific to the individual file, or to the > FM > installation? (I need to distribute this book file.) It's specific to the FM installation. * I thought only Numbering and > Pagination information was saved in a book file; now it seems that font > information is > in there as well. What else is saved in a book file? - colors - Character tags - Para tags - conditions - some xrefs Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Hybernation kills CTRL-xxx sortcuts in FM10/11 on Win7
Klaus Daube wrote: Now that it happend more than once I'm certain thats a bug. Has anyone of You also made this experience? FM-10/11 looses ctrl-xxx shortcuts after wakeup from hybernation in W7 I've seen this too, in FM 9/Win 7. I've seen this twice in 6 months of daily use with hibernation every day. This suggests that hibernation alone isn't the problem. Restarting Frame would restore use of the Ctrl key. I haven't been able to track down the cause (too many variables, too few occurrences). Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Hybernation kills CTRL-xxx sortcuts in FM10/11 on Win7
Klaus Daube wrote: > > Now that it happend more than once I'm certain thats a bug. Has anyone of You > also > made this > experience? > > FM-10/11 looses ctrl-xxx shortcuts after wakeup from hybernation in W7 I've seen this too, in FM 9/Win 7. I've seen this twice in 6 months of daily use with hibernation every day. This suggests that hibernation alone isn't the problem. Restarting Frame would restore use of the Ctrl key. I haven't been able to track down the cause (too many variables, too few occurrences). Harro de Jong Triview
RE: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley
Rob Shell wrote: My questions are How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties? Use XtraBookUtils: http://www.bache.name/sgml.html This creates a list of all graphics in the book, you can edit the paths in that list and then the plugin will convert the paths. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley
Rob Shell wrote: > > My questions are > How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties? Use XtraBookUtils: < http://www.bache.name/sgml.html> This creates a list of all graphics in the book, you can edit the paths in that list and then the plugin will convert the paths. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
Craig Ede wrote: Your point about ownership is well taken. However, having a disk does mean that you have access to a given software package you can count on (and not some changing version of it). Also, given that license, they cannot revoke your ability of use the software in that state, and they have certain obligations to make sure you are able to do that (i.e. they can't simply turn of your license at their end on a whim). Obviously, they can turn off support at some point. Or maybe I am wrong about their responsibilities. I'd love to hear more info on this topic. The FM9 license states that ' you acknowledge that any obligation Adobe may have to support the previous version(s) may end upon the availability of the upgrade or update.' IANAL, but to me that implies they can turn off your license once a new version is available. Adobe's track record isn't that bad: activation for Frame 9 is still available, and when they closed down the activation for CS2, they provided a download for a version that doesn't need activation. Harro de Jong ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
Craig Ede wrote: > Your point about ownership is well taken. However, having a disk does mean > that > you have access to a given software package you can count on (and not some > changing version of it). Also, given that license, they cannot revoke your > ability of > use the software in that state, and they have certain obligations to make > sure you > are able to do that (i.e. they can't simply turn of your license at their end > on a whim). > Obviously, they can turn off support at some point. > > Or maybe I am wrong about their responsibilities. I'd love to hear more info > on this > topic. The FM9 license states that ' you acknowledge that any obligation Adobe may have to support the previous version(s) may end upon the availability of the upgrade or update.' IANAL, but to me that implies they can turn off your license once a new version is available. Adobe's track record isn't that bad: activation for Frame 9 is still available, and when they closed down the activation for CS2, they provided a download for a version that doesn't need activation. Harro de Jong
RE: Modifying Image Paths
Judy Bragg My company is soon to begin working with translation software. Until now, my images have been filed in a chapter subfolder. Since our images will not be localized, I'm moving the images to a location where they can be accessed by each language by the same path. That way, I add/change an image once and everything updates. The downside...I have to update the paths for all of the images in my current English documentation. Redefining the path for each image (or every few images) as the interface asks for it is proving very time-consuming and tedious. You can use the XtraBookUtils plugin for this. http://www.bache.name/sgml.html According to this page, the plugin is for Frame 5-7, but I've got it working in Frame 9. This will create a list of all the image file paths in a book, you can edit the list to reflect the new paths, then the plugin will change the paths. tip: you can use Find/Replace to replace all the paths. 1. select the second column in the table (column heading 'new reference'), and set Find/Replace to Look in: Selection 2. when replacing a file path, you have to specify it as directory//directory2//file.tif (the / is a control character in this dialog) Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Modifying Image Paths
Judy Bragg > My company is soon to begin working with translation software. > Until now, my images have been filed in a chapter subfolder. Since our images > will > not be localized, I'm moving the images to a location where they can be > accessed > by each language by the same path. That way, I add/change an image once and > everything updates. > > The downside...I have to update the paths for all of the images in my current > English > documentation.? Redefining the path for each image (or every few images) as > the > interface asks for it is proving very time-consuming and tedious. You can use the XtraBookUtils plugin for this. < http://www.bache.name/sgml.html> According to this page, the plugin is for Frame 5-7, but I've got it working in Frame 9. This will create a list of all the image file paths in a book, you can edit the list to reflect the new paths, then the plugin will change the paths. tip: you can use Find/Replace to replace all the paths. 1. select the second column in the table (column heading 'new reference'), and set Find/Replace to Look in: Selection 2. when replacing a file path, you have to specify it as directory//directory2//file.tif (the / is a control character in this dialog) Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Selecting Colours for Conditions
Alison Craig wrote: Does anyone know if any kind of guide exists regarding the best colours to choose when creating Conditions? When I initially set up my Conditions, I spent a lot of time testing to see how colours blended when I had multiple Conditions applied to the same text (lots of combos ended up being virtually identical onscreen even though the combination of underlying colours were quite different). It didn't make sense to use colours in the first place if I couldn't tell where one combo stopped and the next one started. I used to have a couple of books with 20+ conditions. Too many to keep track of by color, so I switched to another strategy: I applied the same color to an entire group of conditions. - all product type conditions were blue - Comment etc. were red This meant that the color would at least indicate which function a condition had, but not which condition it was exactly. For now, you may be able to use text styles (under/overline) in combination with colors to keep them apart, but that too breaks down if you add too many conditions. At that point, it becomes essential to have the Conditional Text dialog open at all times. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Imported text
meg miranda wrote: I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame books. Do you use this Frame feature? If so, do you use it to reuse or share text? Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc sets. So we can have one file with the text from legal and then we can import it into the cover page of all 20 of our books. Text insets are very common. I usually create text insets for all common files in a book: Copyright, most of 'About this manual', safety, some Maintenance sections. Or did you mean actual .txt files? I've used those as well, to import loads of 'screen shots' from an old DOS-based application. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Convert headings to destinations in PDF
Harvey, Peggy wrote: Does anyone know of a tool that automatically converts headings in FrameMaker files to named destinations in the PDF? I have reason to believe such a tool exists. One tip I have is it seems to convert periods and spaces to underscores, so the heading 1.1 Overview appears as the named destination 1_1_Overview in the PDF. It's available in Frame itself. In the Print -PDF Setup dialog, go to the 'Links' tab, and check the 'Create named destinations' box. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Imported text
meg miranda wrote: > > I just wanted to see how common it is to use imported text files in Frame > books. > > Do you use this Frame feature? > If so, do you use it to reuse or share text? > > Example---this tends to be my go to solution for copyright text in doc sets.? > So we > can have one file with the text from legal and then we can import it into the > cover > page of all 20 of our books. Text insets are very common. I usually create text insets for all common files in a book: Copyright, most of 'About this manual', safety, some Maintenance sections. Or did you mean actual .txt files? I've used those as well, to import loads of 'screen shots' from an old DOS-based application. Harro de Jong Triview
Convert headings to destinations in PDF
Harvey, Peggy wrote: > > Does anyone know of a tool that automatically converts headings in FrameMaker > files to named destinations in the PDF? I have reason to believe such a tool > exists. > One tip I have is it seems to convert periods and spaces to underscores, so > the > heading "1.1 Overview" appears as the named destination "1_1_Overview" in the > PDF. It's available in Frame itself. In the Print ->PDF Setup dialog, go to the 'Links' tab, and check the 'Create named destinations' box. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: mass update of system variable
Lin Sims wrote: My concern with doing that sort of thing was that Edwin said there were hundreds of files to be updated. Opening that many either all at once or one by one, as Frame does when the files aren't already open, could tie up even the most robust system for a long time. One of my first FrameMaker jobs 15 years ago in Frame 4 on a Sun platform, was to update hundreds of files with new variable values. I used the same approach, dropping all the files in a single book. It took a while, but it did work. If it was possible back then on a system with 100x less memory than you'd have available now... ;-) Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
mass update of system variable
Lin Sims wrote: > My concern with doing that sort of thing was that Edwin said there were > hundreds of > files to be updated. Opening that many either all at once or one by one, as > Frame > does when the files aren't already open, could tie up even the most robust > system > for a long time. One of my first FrameMaker jobs 15 years ago in Frame 4 on a Sun platform, was to update hundreds of files with new variable values. I used the same approach, dropping all the files in a single book. It took a while, but it did work. If it was possible back then on a system with 100x less memory than you'd have available now... ;-) Harro de Jong Triview
Selecting Colours for Conditions
Alison Craig wrote: > > Does anyone know if any kind of "guide" exists regarding the best colours to > choose > when creating Conditions? > > When I initially set up my Conditions, I spent a lot of time testing to see > how colours > blended when I had multiple Conditions applied to the same text (lots of > combos > ended up being virtually identical onscreen even though the combination of > underlying colours were quite different). It didn't make sense to use colours > in the > first place if I couldn't tell where one combo stopped and the next one > started. I used to have a couple of books with 20+ conditions. Too many to keep track of by color, so I switched to another strategy: I applied the same color to an entire group of conditions. - all product type conditions were blue - Comment etc. were red This meant that the color would at least indicate which function a condition had, but not which condition it was exactly. For now, you may be able to use text styles (under/overline) in combination with colors to keep them apart, but that too breaks down if you add too many conditions. At that point, it becomes essential to have the Conditional Text dialog open at all times. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Framers: What good uses are Pods ?
Hassan Chamas wrote: Let me be more specific. I am new to Framemaker but I am taking the time to learn it. Im looking to clarify the uses of Pods. I have read that Pods are frequently used dialog boxes that have an interface designed to simplify your work. When I look at the panel and pods, whats the advantage of making it easier to use Pods when i have panels ? I know I don't have much experience, but I tried to learn more on the Internet and all I see is moving pods/panels around to make your workspace easier. Also, is their any efficiency to using Pods rather then panels ? I guess what Im looking for are Framers who have experience and can give me their insight on their own experience and to get motivated to use them. To answer your question: Pods give an overview of all markers/variables/text insets/conditions in a document. Panels allow you to edit one marker/variable/text inset/condition at a time. I'm afraid you've touched on a sore subject for many long-time Frame users. In Frame versions 1-8, pods didn't exist. All we had were panels. These were straightforward to use: Park them on your second monitor and refer to them as needed. Drag them anywhere you like and they would stay put. The panels had some disadvantages. They were not resizable, so in some panels, critical information could only be accessed by lots of scrolling. They also lacked information. For example, we had a Markers panel, but that only showed information on the currently selected marker. So Adobe came up with a new interface in Frame 9 to address these problems. The panels became resizable, and could now be stacked into tabbed panels. Pods were added to e.g. give an overview of all markers in a document. Unfortunately, the way Adobe created this new interface was not without problems. First, they threw out the old (Windows standard) user interface, and replaced it with an Adobe standard UI. In the Windows UI, every dialog box is an independent window. In the Adobe UI, all these boxes are attracted to each other, and desperately want to clump together in great big unwieldy masses, preferably overlapping the document you're working on. In the old interface, you could easily stack several documents, having them partially overlap. Very handy for comparing documents, moving text from one document to another etc. Try that in Frame 9, and you'll be tearing your hair out. The new pods give useful information. Unfortunately FrameMaker is really eager to keep the information in the pods up-to-date, and as a result some operations (like opening all documents in a book) slow to a crawl as FrameMaker updates the pod for every document it touches. Also new is the concept of workspaces. Basically they allow you to change the layout of the program for different operations. Open some dialogs and close others, place them in different locations, that sort of thing. Interesting idea, but you have to be very careful not to lose the changes you made. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Framers: What good uses are Pods ?
Hassan Chamas wrote: > > Let me be more specific. I am new to Framemaker but I am taking the time to > learn > it. Im looking to clarify the uses of Pods. > > I have read that Pods are frequently used dialog boxes that have an interface > designed to simplify your work. > > When I look at the panel and pods, whats the advantage of making it "easier" > to use > Pods when i have panels ? I know I don't have much experience, but I tried to > learn > more on the Internet and all I see is moving pods/panels around to make your > workspace easier. Also, is their any efficiency to using Pods rather then > panels ? I > guess what Im looking for are Framers who have experience and can give me > their > insight on their own experience and to get motivated to use them. To answer your question: Pods give an overview of all markers/variables/text insets/conditions in a document. Panels allow you to edit one marker/variable/text inset/condition at a time. I'm afraid you've touched on a sore subject for many long-time Frame users. In Frame versions 1-8, pods didn't exist. All we had were panels. These were straightforward to use: Park them on your second monitor and refer to them as needed. Drag them anywhere you like and they would stay put. The panels had some disadvantages. They were not resizable, so in some panels, critical information could only be accessed by lots of scrolling. They also lacked information. For example, we had a Markers panel, but that only showed information on the currently selected marker. So Adobe came up with a new interface in Frame 9 to address these problems. The panels became resizable, and could now be stacked into tabbed panels. Pods were added to e.g. give an overview of all markers in a document. Unfortunately, the way Adobe created this new interface was not without problems. First, they threw out the old (Windows standard) user interface, and replaced it with an "Adobe standard" UI. In the Windows UI, every dialog box is an independent window. In the Adobe UI, all these boxes are attracted to each other, and desperately want to clump together in great big unwieldy masses, preferably overlapping the document you're working on. In the old interface, you could easily stack several documents, having them partially overlap. Very handy for comparing documents, moving text from one document to another etc. Try that in Frame 9, and you'll be tearing your hair out. The new pods give useful information. Unfortunately FrameMaker is really eager to keep the information in the pods up-to-date, and as a result some operations (like opening all documents in a book) slow to a crawl as FrameMaker updates the pod for every document it touches. Also new is the concept of workspaces. Basically they allow you to change the layout of the program for different operations. Open some dialogs and close others, place them in different locations, that sort of thing. Interesting idea, but you have to be very careful not to lose the changes you made. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Tammy Van Boening wrote: FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters are graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are copied. Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed that paging through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time and that the files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics displayed. I have tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true Page Up/Page Down trick to get the pages to refresh faster and that doesn't seem to help at all. It's really slowing me down to try to move through the chapters this way. If I need to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want to be. This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. There are a couple of possible causes: 1. if the files are on a network, any additional load on the network will slow things down. 2. the more pods you open, the slower FrameMaker becomes. The Variables/Markers/Xrefs/Insets pod is a major cause of slowdowns: every time you bring a new file to the foreground, FM updates all those lists. Close this pod if you don't need it. 3. Changes on the network can slow things down, e.g. a virus scanner on the server (or your computer) that checks the graphics files every time they're opened. Ctrl-L and PageUp/dn cause the page to be redrawn again. This just takes more time, won't have a positive effect on load times. You can use Esc v v to hide the graphics temporarily, this speeds things up considerably (but can a pain in the ass when you forget to switch them back on again before creating the PDF). Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Tammy Van Boening wrote: > FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit I have a book with 10 > chapters and > some appendices. Many of the chapters are graphic-laden, but all graphics are > imported by reference. None are copied. Over the last few months when working > on > this book, I have noticed that paging through the opened chapters is taking an > increased amount of time and that the files are very slow to refresh with the > appropriate graphics displayed. I have tried the CTRL + L trick as well as > the tried > and true Page Up/Page Down trick to get the pages to refresh faster and that > doesn't seem to help at all. It's really slowing me down to try to move > through the > chapters this way. If I need to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function > to go > to a specific page and then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want > to be. > This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over time, > and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. There are a couple of possible causes: 1. if the files are on a network, any additional load on the network will slow things down. 2. the more pods you open, the slower FrameMaker becomes. The Variables/Markers/Xrefs/Insets pod is a major cause of slowdowns: every time you bring a new file to the foreground, FM updates all those lists. Close this pod if you don't need it. 3. Changes on the network can slow things down, e.g. a virus scanner on the server (or your computer) that checks the graphics files every time they're opened. Ctrl-L and PageUp/dn cause the page to be redrawn again. This just takes more time, won't have a positive effect on load times. You can use Esc v v to hide the graphics temporarily, this speeds things up considerably (but can a pain in the ass when you forget to switch them back on again before creating the PDF). Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Paragraph Formats Alternate Reality
Nancy Allison wrote: I'm using FM 10 on a Windows 7 system. I am trying to change the body text of a document from TimesNewRoman to Arial. I have tried two methods: 1. Selected another file with the correct formats and used Import. I have done this at least 10,000 times in the past 20 years. It does not work. Nothing changes. 2. Saved the file to .mif, opened it in Notepad, replaced TimesNewRoman with Arial, reopened in FrameMaker. Have done this not as many times, but many. Nothing changes. I've doublechecked directories and timestamps. All the files are coming from the correct locations. Three things to check: Which font is specified in the Paragraph Designer? Do the offending para's have overrides? Is the Arial font available on the system? It sounds like FM can't find the font specified in the paragraph style, and is substituting Times New Roman. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Paragraph Formats Alternate Reality
Nancy Allison wrote: > I'm using FM 10 on a Windows 7 system. > > I am trying to change the body text of a document from TimesNewRoman to Arial. > > I have tried two methods: > > 1. Selected another file with the correct formats and used Import. I have > done this at > least 10,000 times in the past 20 years. It does not work. Nothing changes. > > 2. Saved the file to .mif, opened it in Notepad, replaced TimesNewRoman with > Arial, > reopened in FrameMaker. Have done this not as many times, but many. Nothing > changes. > > I've doublechecked directories and timestamps. All the files are coming from > the > correct locations. Three things to check: Which font is specified in the Paragraph Designer? Do the offending para's have overrides? Is the Arial font available on the system? It sounds like FM can't find the font specified in the paragraph style, and is substituting Times New Roman. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Need to get my FM11 styles under control
John Posada wrote: Hi, guys...As I created my template from scratch, I have a number of P styles that I've used, then stopped using. I therefore have a bunch of styles that I need to clean out...from about 500 files. I maintain a control document with only the valid styles and when I need to change or modify a style, I do it in this document to test it's impact, then import to all other docs in book. What this won't do is remove styles from all the files that aren't in the control document. As others said, Silicon Prairie's Paragraph Tools works well for this. In addition, I'd create a new temporary book and add all the Frame files to it that you want to convert. This way you only have to set up and run the conversion once. Paragraph Tools installation is by dropping a .dll file into fminit\Plugins. No installer to run. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Need to get my FM11 styles under control
John Posada wrote: > > Hi, guys...As I created my template from scratch, I have a number of P styles > that > I've used, then stopped using. I therefore have a bunch of styles that I need > to clean > out...from about 500 files. I maintain a control document with only the valid > styles > and when I need to change or modify a style, I do it in this document to test > it's > impact, then import to all other docs in book. What this won't do is remove > styles > from all the files that aren't in the control document. As others said, Silicon Prairie's Paragraph Tools works well for this. In addition, I'd create a new temporary book and add all the Frame files to it that you want to convert. This way you only have to set up and run the conversion once. Paragraph Tools installation is by dropping a .dll file into fminit\Plugins. No installer to run. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?
John Posada wrote I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has a TOC and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the pagination starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also conceivable that I'll eventually have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6. Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the Index at the end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach? Are both volumes in a single .book file? Or do you have separate .books for each volume? If it's one book: 1. create the TOC and place it in Volume 1. 2. create an empty file where the TOC for volume 2 should go. 3. In this empty file, place the Volume 1 TOC as a text inset. If it's two books: 1. create a third book that contains both volumes. Make sure the page numbering settings are consistent with your volumes.. 2. add a TOC to this book and generate it. 3. take this TOC and add it to both volumes as an ordinary (non-generated) FM file. In both cases, you may have to update the book multiple times until all the page numbers are correct. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
Heidi Bailey wrote: I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right one: Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg? configui is the correct folder name. If customui.cfg doesn't exist, you can create it in this folder. Oh, and while I'm emailing the list: Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so it is a pain to have to reset this each time. I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames? No. I used to use QuicKeys to change this for all frames in a book, but sadly that isn't officially supported under Windows 7 anymore. Some people have got it to work though. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?
John Posada wrote > > I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has a TOC > and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the > pagination > starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also conceivable that I'll > eventually > have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6. > > Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the Index at > the > end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach? Are both volumes in a single .book file? Or do you have separate .books for each volume? If it's one book: 1. create the TOC and place it in Volume 1. 2. create an empty file where the TOC for volume 2 should go. 3. In this empty file, place the Volume 1 TOC as a text inset. If it's two books: 1. create a third book that contains both volumes. Make sure the page numbering settings are consistent with your volumes.. 2. add a TOC to this book and generate it. 3. take this TOC and add it to both volumes as an ordinary (non-generated) FM file. In both cases, you may have to update the book multiple times until all the page numbers are correct. Harro de Jong Triview
Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
Heidi Bailey wrote: > I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, > I > have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you > tell me > which of the files in there is the right one: > > Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg > Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg > > Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg? configui is the correct folder name. If customui.cfg doesn't exist, you can create it in this folder. > Oh, and while I'm emailing the list: > Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a > screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so > it is a > pain to have to reset this each time. > I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of > setting > FM to always left-align new graphic frames? No. I used to use QuicKeys to change this for all frames in a book, but sadly that isn't officially supported under Windows 7 anymore. Some people have got it to work though. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Blindingly obvious trick when optimising figure positioning
Steve Rickaby wrote: When optimising figure positioning to move figures as close to the cross-references to them as possible, temporarily add color to the figure xref format to make them show up. (Duh!...) I tend to give xrefs a color (blue) by default. - blue is dark enough to print well in B/W - in the PDF, the xref will look like an HTML hyperlink, so even people who don't use PDFs every day will get the idea that the link is clickable. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Blindingly obvious trick when optimising figure positioning
Steve Rickaby wrote: > > When optimising figure positioning to move figures as close to the > cross-references > to them as possible, temporarily add color to the figure xref format to make > them > show up. (Duh!...) I tend to give xrefs a color (blue) by default. - blue is dark enough to print well in B/W - in the PDF, the xref will look like an HTML hyperlink, so even people who don't use PDFs every day will get the idea that the link is clickable. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Straight-through numbering in FM book
Dr. Winfried Reng wrote: If you want that your tables and figures use the first counter of the heading numbering, then they must be in the same series and the heading numbering must have three additional counters (if you do not need numbered labels in your figure title, then only two). These are reset to 0 with heading1: heading1: H:n+ =0 =0 =0 =0 =0\t heading2: H:n.n+ =0 \t heading3: H:n.n.n+ \t tabletitle: H:Table n+ =0 =0n+ : figuretitle: H:Fig. n+ =0 =0 n+ =0: This would increase the Heading1 number at every figure and table, and reset Heading 2 and Heading 3, so your numbering would look like this: chapter 1 figure 2.1 chapter 3 heading 3.1 figure 4.1 heading 5.1 And the last number in the definitions isn't doing anything. If you want your figures and tables to have a number that includes the chapter number, this is a correct setup without $chapnum: heading1: H:n+ =0 =0 =0 =0\t heading2: H:n.n+ =0 \t heading3: H:n.n.n+ \t tabletitle: H:Table n -n+ figuretitle: H:Fig. n - n+ Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Straight-through numbering in FM book
Dr. Winfried Reng wrote: > > If you want that your tables and figures use the first counter of the > heading numbering, then they must be in the same series and the > heading numbering must have three additional counters (if you do not > need numbered labels in your figure title, then only two). These are > reset to 0 with heading1: > heading1: H:<n+>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>\t > heading2: H:.<n+>< =0>< >< >< >\t > heading3: H:..<n+>< >< >< >\t > tabletitle: H:Table <n+>< =0>< =0><n+>< >< >: > figuretitle: H:Fig. <n+>< =0>< =0>< ><n+>< =0>: This would increase the Heading1 number at every figure and table, and reset Heading 2 and Heading 3, so your numbering would look like this: chapter 1 figure 2.1 chapter 3 heading 3.1 figure 4.1 heading 5.1 And the last number in the definitions isn't doing anything. If you want your figures and tables to have a number that includes the chapter number, this is a correct setup without <$chapnum>: > heading1: H:<n+>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>\t > heading2: H:.<n+>< =0>< >< >\t > heading3: H:..<n+>< >< >\t > tabletitle: H:Table < >< >-<n+>< > > figuretitle: H:Fig. < >< >-< ><n+> Harro de Jong Triview
FrameMaker 11: change mnemonic shortcut
Yves Barbion wrote: > > In Frame 11, the mnemonic shortcut ALT+v+m is used for two menu commands: > View > Element Boundaries as Tags and View Master Pages (actually > ALT+v+m+m. This seems to have changed compare to previous versions, which > had ALT+v+l to view the element boundaries. ALT+v+l is now used to View Line > Numbers. > > I want to use ALT+v+l again to view the element boundaries, so I guess I'll > have to > change this in one of the menu configuration files (*.cfg). Any ideas which > file I have > to change and how? IIRC you can just enter your new definitions in customui.cfg, the settings in this file will override the other files. The notation used is: + for Shift, ^ for Control, and ~ for Alt. The Esc key abbreviation is \! Here's a sample line from my configui.cfg: > So you need to find the command label in the other commands files (ViewElementBoundaries is a decent first guess, but you'd have to check). The commands files sometimes use spaces, but not always, so ALT+v+l is written as either ~vl or ~ v l Esc combinations are in cmds.cfg, ALT commands are more likely to be in wincmds.cfg Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Strange Happenings with Reference Pages
Karen Robbins wrote: I went into an older template file and wanted to try mapping some master pages, so I opened the reference pages. There is only one in this file--the footnote/lines reference page. What's even more odd is that many of the examples (Footnote and Hairline to name a couple) had at least 10 copies each of the example line! All sitting on exactly on top of one another. Do those reference page frames all have tags? (select frame-Object properties) You can't create two reference page frames with the same tag (according to my quick test, at least). This means your paragraph format will pick up the information from one frame only. So the reference page may be a mess, but it shouldn't affect the formatting of your body pages. And since there doesn't appear to be a reference pages mapping table, is it reasonable to copy the master pages from my old template file into a new document (that does have all the default reference pages and thus includes the UnstructMasterPageMaps table)? That should work, yes. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Strange Happenings with Reference Pages
Karen Robbins wrote: > > I went into an older template file and wanted to try mapping some master > pages, so I > opened the reference pages. There is only one in this file--the footnote/lines > reference page. What's even more odd is that many of the examples (Footnote > and > Hairline to name a couple) had at least 10 copies each of the example line! > All sitting > on exactly on top of one another. Do those reference page frames all have tags? (select frame->Object properties) You can't create two reference page frames with the same tag (according to my quick test, at least). This means your paragraph format will pick up the information from one frame only. So the reference page may be a mess, but it shouldn't affect the formatting of your body pages. > And since there doesn't appear to be a reference pages mapping table, is it > reasonable to copy the master pages from my old template file into a new > document > (that does have all the default reference pages and thus includes the > UnstructMasterPageMaps table)? That should work, yes. Harro de Jong Triview
RE: Copy/paste of in-book xrefs
Steve Rickaby wrote: I have a lot of new in-book xrefs to add, so I am finding the first such instance, setting up the xref, then copy/pasting it to all other required locations in the book. ... What's happening is that I get no unresolved xrefs, but after I've closed the book files and then reopened them, many of the pasted copies of the xref have become unresolved (maybe those that were pasted into a different chapter to the one from which the original xref was copied, but I've not checked for this in detail). I just tested this, it works like that for me too. (FM9) The xref you paste into a different file will become unresolved. Basically it will try and find the xref marker in the current file, instead of the file you copied the xref from. There is a workaround: 1. Paste the xref into a different chapter. 2. resolve the xref. The xref will now contain a reference to the correct file. 3. Copy the resolved xref 4. Now you can paste the xref from step 3 into all other chapters. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame versus XSL-FO
You had to mention DITA, didn’t you? ;-) We’ve made FO stylesheets for PDF output from Author-IT, those typically take a couple of days. The DITA Open Toolkit looks positively byzantine by comparison. Harro de Jong From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion Sent: woensdag 27 februari 2013 15:58 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Frame versus XSL-FO Hi Harro If you can develop an FO stylesheet for DITA-sourced content in only 3 times the amount of time it takes me to develop the same DITA-FMx template, then we should talk. We may have a lot of work for you then. ;-) Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nuhttp://www.scripto.nu On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Harro de Jong harro.dej...@triviewgroup.commailto:harro.dej...@triviewgroup.com wrote: That's not been my experience with FO templating. I've seen FO templating take maybe 1.5-3x as long as in FrameMaker. $200k sounds more like they developed an entire formatting engine. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Copy/paste of in-book xrefs
Steve Rickaby wrote: > > I have a lot of new in-book xrefs to add, so I am finding the first such > instance, > setting up the xref, then copy/pasting it to all other required locations in > the book. ... > > What's happening is that I get no unresolved xrefs, but after I've closed the > book > files and then reopened them, many of the pasted copies of the xref have > become > unresolved (maybe those that were pasted into a different chapter to the one > from > which the original xref was copied, but I've not checked for this in detail). I just tested this, it works like that for me too. (FM9) The xref you paste into a different file will become unresolved. Basically it will try and find the xref marker in the current file, instead of the file you copied the xref from. There is a workaround: 1. Paste the xref into a different chapter. 2. resolve the xref. The xref will now contain a reference to the correct file. 3. Copy the resolved xref 4. Now you can paste the xref from step 3 into all other chapters. Harro de Jong Triview
Frame versus XSL-FO
You had to mention DITA, didn?t you? ;-) We?ve made FO stylesheets for PDF output from Author-IT, those typically take a couple of days. The DITA Open Toolkit looks positively byzantine by comparison. Harro de Jong From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion Sent: woensdag 27 februari 2013 15:58 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Frame versus XSL-FO Hi Harro If you can develop an FO stylesheet for DITA-sourced content in only 3 times the amount of time it takes me to develop the same DITA-FMx template, then we should talk. We may have a lot of work for you then. ;-) Cheers -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu<http://www.scripto.nu> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Harro de Jong mailto:Harro.deJong at triviewgroup.com>> wrote: That's not been my experience with FO templating. I've seen FO templating take maybe 1.5-3x as long as in FrameMaker. $200k sounds more like they developed an entire formatting engine. Harro de Jong Triview -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130228/5ac576fa/attachment.html>
RE: Frame versus XSL-FO
Also, I could not find the search capability on frameusers.com to search older topics by keyword other then the archive that looks like something out of the 90's. Am I missing some capability somewhere? I use the search at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers@lists.frameusers.com/info.html Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
