Re: [Framers] Limit on number of files in a book?

[john . x . posada]

Nothing has to be bad...sometimes RAM gets cluttered. Reboot and see if it 
makes a difference.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Limit on number of files in a book?

Scott, you mean the user's RAM is bad, or that the book file is bad?

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:54 PM Scott Prentice  wrote:

> If there is a hard limit, it's way more than 68. I've seen books with 
> hundreds of items, and way before FM12. It sounds like this is more 
> likely a memory corruption issue and it's just become evident when 
> interacting with a large scrolling list.
>
> Cheers,
> ...scott
>
>
> On 3/20/19 9:47 AM, Lin Sims wrote:
> > Is there a hard limit on how many files can be seen in the book panel?
> > Someone over on the Framers forum seems to be having issues with
> scrolling
> > down past 68 items.
> >
> > I've never had a book that long, so I have no idea. They're also 
> > using FM12, which is something I don't have access to.
> >
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Re: [Framers] Limit on number of files in a book?

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I have several books with over 1,000 items in the book

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Limit on number of files in a book?

If there is a hard limit, it's way more than 68. I've seen books with hundreds 
of items, and way before FM12. It sounds like this is more likely a memory 
corruption issue and it's just become evident when interacting with a large 
scrolling list.

Cheers,
...scott


On 3/20/19 9:47 AM, Lin Sims wrote:
> Is there a hard limit on how many files can be seen in the book panel?
> Someone over on the Framers forum seems to be having issues with 
> scrolling down past 68 items.
>
> I've never had a book that long, so I have no idea. They're also using 
> FM12, which is something I don't have access to.
>
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Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

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Lin...Well...they're talking and making progress. Some of our software 
packaging software needed to be upgraded, stuff like that. I'll know next week. 
Thanks for your participation.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

Was it successful?

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:55 AM  wrote:

> Thanks Steve... this isn't an off-line activation, it's just a "different"
> online activation.
>
> My software provisioning people are conference calling with Adobe 
> Product management tomorrow morning.


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Re: [Framers] framemaker 2015 does not start

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Has she rebooted then tried again?

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Subject: [Framers] framemaker 2015 does not start

My colleague was using FrameMaker 2015  this morning. She shut it down. 
Then she tried to start it. The splash screen flashes and then goes away and 
Frame doesn't start.

Has anyone seen anything like this? Any ideas how to fix it?

Fred

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Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

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Thanks Steve... this isn't an off-line activation, it's just a "different" 
online activation.

My software provisioning people are conference calling with Adobe Product 
management tomorrow morning.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

Adobe has some information about offline product activation here:

https://exception.licenses.adobe.com/aoes/aoes/v1/cst1



Best regards,

Steve Waldenga



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> Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't like FM

> installed on their network.

>

> Are there any other applications that can be installed and open native 
> FM

> 11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the book

> paradigm?



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Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

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Actually, a call is being set up between my guys and Ashish at Adobe.  I'll 
leave it in their hands

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

Hi John,

Maybe a few aspects of the replies by Peter Gold and others went unnoticed.
Maybe my suggestion already fails at step 1, but would the be following be an 
option?

#1
Ask IT for a spare computer with a local admin account. That computer doesn't 
need network or internet access at any time.

#2
Install FM11 from the original install media and start a 30-day trial.
No internet connection is required for that. (I've been  able to the same on a 
virtual machine without internet access, using my original Adobe Technical 
Communication Suite 4 DVDs.) FM appears to be fully functional during the trial 
period.

#3
Save all your .book and .fm files in MIF 7.0 format and any other formats that 
might be useful.

#4
>From here, you can take any route with the exported documents. If you want to 
>continue using FM for future edits, FrameMaker version 8 might be a good 
>option because it could be activated by phone. Ask Adobe support if phone 
>activation of FM8 is still available, and if yes, whether they can migrate 
>your existing FM11 license to FM8 given the circumstances. An installer for 
>FM8 installer is still available for download from the Adobe website. Your IT 
>department should find a way to download and install FM8 for you.

Regards,
Jo H

Am Mo., 11. Feb. 2019 um 19:29 Uhr schrieb :
>
> If I could install FM11, I wouldn't be going through this.
>
> Guys...the focus seems to keep coming back to the export process. I got that. 
> Without a working application installed, everything else is moot.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com
> ] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:25 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
>
> He's got Frame 11, sort of. If he could get that working again, he could use 
> Mif2Go to export the MIF files to a number of formats, including Word, with 
> all the styles intact.
>
> Given the IT and AML compliance, though, I don't know if that'd be possible 
> for him.
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:20 PM Peter Gold 
> 
> wrote:
>
> > Looks like my earlier response got truncated. Apologies for any confusion.
> >
> > Would it be acceptable to install FM on a stand-alone machine, save 
> > as MIF, and export/convert to formats of apps the corporate network 
> > supports, then copy these outputs to the network? Or, have that work done 
> > by a service?
> >
> > If a non-subscription version of InDesign is used on the corporate 
> > network, a round-about approach could be to use the  DTP Tools - MIF 
> > Filter for Adobe InDesign 
> >  to convert MIF files 
> > InDesign. Within InDesign's own limits and abilities, the conversion 
> > retains most, FrameMaker text formatting features and 
> > specifications, and does its best to emulate page layouts.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM John Posada  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't like 
> > > FM installed on their network.
> > >
> > > Are there any other applications that can be installed and open 
> > > native FM
> > > 11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the 
> > > book paradigm?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
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Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

[john . x . posada]

No no No no No no

INSTANT termination.   

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

I expect that'd be a very bad idea. He works for a bank.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:49 PM Jeff Coatsworth < 
jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com> wrote:

> I'm presuming taking a copy of the FM docs off site, installing FM & 
> creating MIF or PDFs or HTML (or XML for that matter) is out of the 
> question too?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of 
> john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:34 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
>
> Lin...I'd be fine with that if you want to take the time.
>
> Right now, cost of the application is not a factor (well...you know, 
> within reason...no 250k enterprise application, but within a couple $k)...
> All I would need is a pointer to the application...I'll take it from there.
> You can use my name, but you cannot use my bank's name.
>
> Thanks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:22 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
>
> If you're not active on the Adobe Forums, I can ask there if anyone is 
> aware of a program that will import Frame binary and convert to a new 
> format. Do you want me to? And if so, how would you like the 
> information conveyed?
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:15 PM  wrote:
>
> > I'd think a vendor would say I'm going to create an application that 
> > kicks FM's butt and as part of it, can ingest FM files.
> >
> > What do I know. Thanks everyone
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> > us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Prentice
> > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 2:12 PM
> > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
> >
> > This isn't an unusual request (to migrate to another tool) .. but 
> > typically when someone is a "FM user" with FM files, they would have 
> > FrameMaker available to export to a neutral format.
> >
> > FM isn't used by enough people to warrant creating a separate 
> > application for migration.
> >
> > ...scott
> >
> >
> > On 2/11/19 10:57 AM, John Posada wrote:
> > > This conversation has been an eye-opener. I cannot believe that 
> > > nobody has come along and offered an application for people who 
> > > are FM users but want to migrate to another vendor for some reason.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Peter Gold 
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi, John:
> > >>
> > >> My point was that if the company was using InDesign, it would 
> > >> have to be an early-enough standalone version that doesn't phone 
> > >> home to Adobe. I use ID
> > >> CS6 standalone/non-subscription.
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps the question has evolved to what applications are 
> > >> acceptable on the corporate network, and which of them do folks 
> > >> on the list think is the best one to migrate to, so as to avoid 
> > >> having to slog through this effort going forward?
> > >>
> > >> Despite its age, FrameMaker is still a great tool for the task of 
> > >> technical writing and publishing. However, security issues in the 
> > >> computing environments where it's used have become serious 
> > >> considerations, so, to wit:, hence, therefore, and etc.
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:26 PM  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Peter...it's not the process for exporting/converting that's 
> > >>> the
> > >> issue.
> > >>> I got all that. I did it all the time to allow my user base to 
> > >>> make their edits.
> > >>>
> > >>> The issue is installing and licensing the application. It WOULD 
> > >>> be installed on a standalone...mine. It still needs to validate 
> > >>> by
> > >> connecting
> > >>> to Adobe, and that's a problem.
> > >>>
> > >>> BTW...all Adobe products do that, so bring ID into the equation 
> > >>> does nothing.
> > >>>
> > >>> -Original Message-
> > >>> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> > >>> us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold
> > >>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:20 PM
> > >>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
> > >>> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured 
> > >>> files
> > >>>
> > >>> Looks like my earlier 

Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

[john . x . posada]

Lin...I'd be fine with that if you want to take the time.

Right now, cost of the application is not a factor (well...you know, within 
reason...no 250k enterprise application, but within a couple $k)... All I would 
need is a pointer to the application...I'll take it from there. You can use my 
name, but you cannot use my bank's name.

Thanks

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From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:22 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

If you're not active on the Adobe Forums, I can ask there if anyone is aware of 
a program that will import Frame binary and convert to a new format. Do you 
want me to? And if so, how would you like the information conveyed?

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:15 PM  wrote:

> I'd think a vendor would say I'm going to create an application that 
> kicks FM's butt and as part of it, can ingest FM files.
>
> What do I know. Thanks everyone
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Prentice
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 2:12 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
>
> This isn't an unusual request (to migrate to another tool) .. but 
> typically when someone is a "FM user" with FM files, they would have 
> FrameMaker available to export to a neutral format.
>
> FM isn't used by enough people to warrant creating a separate 
> application for migration.
>
> ...scott
>
>
> On 2/11/19 10:57 AM, John Posada wrote:
> > This conversation has been an eye-opener. I cannot believe that 
> > nobody has come along and offered an application for people who are 
> > FM users but want to migrate to another vendor for some reason.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Peter Gold 
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, John:
> >>
> >> My point was that if the company was using InDesign, it would have 
> >> to be an early-enough standalone version that doesn't phone home to 
> >> Adobe. I use ID
> >> CS6 standalone/non-subscription.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the question has evolved to what applications are 
> >> acceptable on the corporate network, and which of them do folks on 
> >> the list think is the best one to migrate to, so as to avoid having 
> >> to slog through this effort going forward?
> >>
> >> Despite its age, FrameMaker is still a great tool for the task of 
> >> technical writing and publishing. However, security issues in the 
> >> computing environments where it's used have become serious 
> >> considerations, so, to wit:, hence, therefore, and etc.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:26 PM  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Peter...it's not the process for exporting/converting that's 
> >>> the
> >> issue.
> >>> I got all that. I did it all the time to allow my user base to 
> >>> make their edits.
> >>>
> >>> The issue is installing and licensing the application. It WOULD be 
> >>> installed on a standalone...mine. It still needs to validate by
> >> connecting
> >>> to Adobe, and that's a problem.
> >>>
> >>> BTW...all Adobe products do that, so bring ID into the equation 
> >>> does nothing.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> >>> us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold
> >>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:20 PM
> >>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
> >>> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured 
> >>> files
> >>>
> >>> Looks like my earlier response got truncated. Apologies for any
> >> confusion.
> >>> Would it be acceptable to install FM on a stand-alone machine, 
> >>> save as MIF, and export/convert to formats of apps the corporate 
> >>> network
> >> supports,
> >>> then copy these outputs to the network? Or, have that work done by 
> >>> a service?
> >>>
> >>> If a non-subscription version of InDesign is used on the corporate 
> >>> network, a round-about approach could be to use the  DTP Tools - 
> >>> MIF
> >> Filter
> >>> for Adobe InDesign  
> >>> to convert MIF files InDesign. Within InDesign's own limits and 
> >>> abilities,
> >> the
> >>> conversion retains most, FrameMaker text formatting features and 
> >>> specifications, and does its best to emulate page layouts.
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM John Posada 
> wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't like 
>  FM installed on their network.
> 
>  Are there any other applications that can be installed and open 
>  native FM
>  11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the 
>  book paradigm?
> 
>  Thanks
> 
>  

Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

[john . x . posada]

I'd think a vendor would say I'm going to create an application that kicks FM's 
butt and as part of it, can ingest FM files.

What do I know. Thanks everyone

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Scott Prentice
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 2:12 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

This isn't an unusual request (to migrate to another tool) .. but typically 
when someone is a "FM user" with FM files, they would have FrameMaker available 
to export to a neutral format.

FM isn't used by enough people to warrant creating a separate application for 
migration.

...scott


On 2/11/19 10:57 AM, John Posada wrote:
> This conversation has been an eye-opener. I cannot believe that nobody 
> has come along and offered an application for people who are FM users 
> but want to migrate to another vendor for some reason.
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Peter Gold 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, John:
>>
>> My point was that if the company was using InDesign, it would have to 
>> be an early-enough standalone version that doesn't phone home to 
>> Adobe. I use ID
>> CS6 standalone/non-subscription.
>>
>> Perhaps the question has evolved to what applications are acceptable 
>> on the corporate network, and which of them do folks on the list 
>> think is the best one to migrate to, so as to avoid having to slog 
>> through this effort going forward?
>>
>> Despite its age, FrameMaker is still a great tool for the task of 
>> technical writing and publishing. However, security issues in the 
>> computing environments where it's used have become serious 
>> considerations, so, to wit:, hence, therefore, and etc.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:26 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Peter...it's not the process for exporting/converting that's the
>> issue.
>>> I got all that. I did it all the time to allow my user base to make 
>>> their edits.
>>>
>>> The issue is installing and licensing the application. It WOULD be 
>>> installed on a standalone...mine. It still needs to validate by
>> connecting
>>> to Adobe, and that's a problem.
>>>
>>> BTW...all Adobe products do that, so bring ID into the equation does 
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
>>> us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold
>>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:20 PM
>>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
>>> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
>>>
>>> Looks like my earlier response got truncated. Apologies for any
>> confusion.
>>> Would it be acceptable to install FM on a stand-alone machine, save 
>>> as MIF, and export/convert to formats of apps the corporate network
>> supports,
>>> then copy these outputs to the network? Or, have that work done by a 
>>> service?
>>>
>>> If a non-subscription version of InDesign is used on the corporate 
>>> network, a round-about approach could be to use the  DTP Tools - MIF
>> Filter
>>> for Adobe InDesign  to 
>>> convert MIF files InDesign. Within InDesign's own limits and 
>>> abilities,
>> the
>>> conversion retains most, FrameMaker text formatting features and 
>>> specifications, and does its best to emulate page layouts.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM John Posada  wrote:
>>>
 Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't like 
 FM installed on their network.

 Are there any other applications that can be installed and open 
 native FM
 11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the 
 book paradigm?

 Thanks

 --
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Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

[john . x . posada]

How many people, based on company policy, have not embraced FM because there 
wasn't a migration path to another vendor so as not to be locked into a 
proprietary platform 

When I went the FM way, if I'd known, I would have gone a different way. I just 
assumed.

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 2:05 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

One thing that might inform the long view is "If it ain't broke...," so there 
may be lots of individuals and small and large companies still chugging along 
with perfectly-operating back versions of FrameMaker on well-enough operating 
Windows-compatible machines or virtual-machine emulators, even, 
can-you-even-think-it...UNIX.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:57 PM John Posada  wrote:

> This conversation has been an eye-opener. I cannot believe that nobody 
> has come along and offered an application for people who are FM users 
> but want to migrate to another vendor for some reason.
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Peter Gold 
> 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi, John:
> >
> > My point was that if the company was using InDesign, it would have 
> > to be
> an
> > early-enough standalone version that doesn't phone home to Adobe. I 
> > use
> ID
> > CS6 standalone/non-subscription.
> >
> > Perhaps the question has evolved to what applications are acceptable 
> > on
> the
> > corporate network, and which of them do folks on the list think is 
> > the
> best
> > one to migrate to, so as to avoid having to slog through this effort
> going
> > forward?
> >
> > Despite its age, FrameMaker is still a great tool for the task of
> technical
> > writing and publishing. However, security issues in the computing 
> > environments where it's used have become serious considerations, so, 
> > to wit:, hence, therefore, and etc.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:26 PM  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Peter...it's not the process for exporting/converting that's 
> > > the
> > issue.
> > > I got all that. I did it all the time to allow my user base to 
> > > make
> their
> > > edits.
> > >
> > > The issue is installing and licensing the application. It WOULD be 
> > > installed on a standalone...mine. It still needs to validate by
> > connecting
> > > to Adobe, and that's a problem.
> > >
> > > BTW...all Adobe products do that, so bring ID into the equation 
> > > does nothing.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> > > us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold
> > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:20 PM
> > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
> > > framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured 
> > > files
> > >
> > > Looks like my earlier response got truncated. Apologies for any
> > confusion.
> > >
> > > Would it be acceptable to install FM on a stand-alone machine, 
> > > save as MIF, and export/convert to formats of apps the corporate 
> > > network
> > supports,
> > > then copy these outputs to the network? Or, have that work done by 
> > > a service?
> > >
> > > If a non-subscription version of InDesign is used on the corporate 
> > > network, a round-about approach could be to use the  DTP Tools - 
> > > MIF
> > Filter
> > > for Adobe InDesign  
> > > to convert MIF files InDesign. Within InDesign's own limits and 
> > > abilities,
> > the
> > > conversion retains most, FrameMaker text formatting features and 
> > > specifications, and does its best to emulate page layouts.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM John Posada 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't 
> > > > like FM installed on their network.
> > > >
> > > > Are there any other applications that can be installed and open
> native
> > > > FM
> > > > 11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the 
> > > > book paradigm?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > John Posada
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Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

[john . x . posada]

If I could install FM11, I wouldn't be going through this.

Guys...the focus seems to keep coming back to the export process. I got that. 
Without a working application installed, everything else is moot.

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:25 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

He's got Frame 11, sort of. If he could get that working again, he could use 
Mif2Go to export the MIF files to a number of formats, including Word, with all 
the styles intact.

Given the IT and AML compliance, though, I don't know if that'd be possible for 
him.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:20 PM Peter Gold 
wrote:

> Looks like my earlier response got truncated. Apologies for any confusion.
>
> Would it be acceptable to install FM on a stand-alone machine, save as 
> MIF, and export/convert to formats of apps the corporate network 
> supports, then copy these outputs to the network? Or, have that work done by 
> a service?
>
> If a non-subscription version of InDesign is used on the corporate 
> network, a round-about approach could be to use the  DTP Tools - MIF 
> Filter for Adobe InDesign 
>  to convert MIF files 
> InDesign. Within InDesign's own limits and abilities, the conversion 
> retains most, FrameMaker text formatting features and specifications, 
> and does its best to emulate page layouts.
>
> HTH
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM John Posada  wrote:
>
> > Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't like FM 
> > installed on their network.
> >
> > Are there any other applications that can be installed and open 
> > native FM
> > 11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the 
> > book paradigm?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > John Posada
> > ___
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Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

[john . x . posada]

Hi Peter...it's not the process for exporting/converting that's the issue. I 
got all that. I did it all the time to allow my user base to make their edits. 

The issue is installing and licensing the application. It WOULD be installed on 
a standalone...mine. It still needs to validate by connecting to Adobe, and 
that's a problem.

BTW...all Adobe products do that, so bring ID into the equation does nothing.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:20 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

Looks like my earlier response got truncated. Apologies for any confusion.

Would it be acceptable to install FM on a stand-alone machine, save as MIF, and 
export/convert to formats of apps the corporate network supports, then copy 
these outputs to the network? Or, have that work done by a service?

If a non-subscription version of InDesign is used on the corporate network, a 
round-about approach could be to use the  DTP Tools - MIF Filter for Adobe 
InDesign  to convert MIF files 
InDesign. Within InDesign's own limits and abilities, the conversion retains 
most, FrameMaker text formatting features and specifications, and does its best 
to emulate page layouts.

HTH


On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM John Posada  wrote:

> Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't like FM 
> installed on their network.
>
> Are there any other applications that can be installed and open native 
> FM
> 11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the book 
> paradigm?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> John Posada
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Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

[john . x . posada]

Thanks Lin.

I need to retain the style definitions...Having everything Normal would be a 
liability.

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Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 12:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

I think you'll have to talk to Adobe, and probably you'll need your IT people 
to talk to Adobe. To my knowledge, there is no way to edit a FrameMaker file 
without using the FrameMaker application. They're a binary format, and there's 
no method of extracting even the text from them. Used to be you could use 
FrameViewer to at least read them, but I believe that product was discontinued 
around the time Adobe bought Frame Technology.

If you already have PDFs of the files and the Adobe Acrobat application (not 
the Adobe Reader), you can export the documents to Word. You lose the 
formatting information (everything is variations of 'Normal') but not the 
appearance that you created.
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Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

[john . x . posada]

No worries, man...all good.

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Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 10:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

I am sorry for using that derogatory term. It was unprofessional and uncalled 
for. Please forgive me, John.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

As we are in AML compliance (anti-money laundering) and very locked down, among 
other reasons, they have issues with any application where the workstation 
needs to connect to the "mothership" over the internet, even if it is for an 
authorization.

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Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 10:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

Hi John,

Forgive me for testing the loyalty you have for the people in your company, but 
the people that don't like FM installed on their network are idiots. If 
FrameMaker is the tool you are using to produce content for them, why wouldn't 
they want it installed on their network?

No, there is no tool besides FrameMaker that will work with unstructured 
FrameMaker documents.

Rick

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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of John Posada
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 9:28 AM
To: FrameUsers List 
Subject: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't like FM installed 
on their network.

Are there any other applications that can be installed and open native FM
11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the book paradigm?

Thanks

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Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

[john . x . posada]

As we are in AML compliance (anti-money laundering) and very locked down, among 
other reasons, they have issues with any application where the workstation 
needs to connect to the "mothership" over the internet, even if it is for an 
authorization.

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Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 10:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

Hi John,

Forgive me for testing the loyalty you have for the people in your company, but 
the people that don't like FM installed on their network are idiots. If 
FrameMaker is the tool you are using to produce content for them, why wouldn't 
they want it installed on their network?

No, there is no tool besides FrameMaker that will work with unstructured 
FrameMaker documents.

Rick

Rick Quatro
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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of John Posada
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 9:28 AM
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Subject: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't like FM installed 
on their network.

Are there any other applications that can be installed and open native FM
11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the book paradigm?

Thanks

--
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Re: [Framers] Can't open character palette or hex input

[john . x . posada]

Can you change your screen resolution to make your desktop bigger, move the 
pallet to center, then revert the desktop resolution?

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[mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 10:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Can't open character palette or hex input

Based on no evidence whatsoever, my guess is that the character palette somehow 
became parked at a location beyond the bounds of your desktop. But I'm afraid 
that I don't remember the trick for recovering off-desktop palettes.

-FR


From: Framers  on 
behalf of Lin Sims 
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 10:31 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: [Framers] Can't open character palette or hex input

As above. I wanted to use the character palette to insert a checkmark.
Clicked Insert > Character > Character Palette.

Nothing. No error message, no character palette, just a bunch of nothing. I 
even restarted Frame.

Obviously, I can use the Windows Charmap instead, but I find it very puzzling 
that the character palette is suddenly not working for me. I've got Frame 2019 
to the latest patch available. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I just 
special?

--
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Re: [Framers] Switching from InDesign to FM 11

[john . x . posada]

Hi guys all below is cool, but let's not forget the primary concern. 
Whatever the factors, it doesn't matter. The only thing that's important is, 
handing the application to a person, how much work is required to get that 
person to deliver output. Everything else is background noise.

You will only know that by a hands-on effort.

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>From a trainer's viewpoint, I'd want to know the kind of documents the person 
>had created in InDesign, and how they were created. If the writer created the 
>bulk of the authoring with something like Word, then imported, placed, or 
>pasted the content into ID, for layout and design, then it would be helpful to 
>know the writer's approach in Word. From a writer's viewpoint, IMO, FM works 
>more like Word than ID, so many Word work habits - good ones, and bad ones - 
>are transferable.
Was the original authoring done with or without attention to systematic use of 
named styles or formats? Did they use named styles in ID, or ad-hoc?

HTH

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 9:06 AM  wrote:

> Give him a small document/project, ask him to produce a deliverable, 
> and what he needs help with tells you what you need to know.


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Re: [Framers] Switching from InDesign to FM 11

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Give him a small document/project, ask him to produce a deliverable, and what 
he needs help with tells you what you need to know.

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[mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
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Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 9:37 AM
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Subject: [Framers] Switching from InDesign to FM 11

I have a new tech writer coming in who has a lot of InDesign experience, and I 
need to get him up to speed in FM 11 (unstructured) ASAP. I know the concepts 
are similar, so where do I start training so that I don't bore him with 
concepts he already understands? 

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[Framers] Going from FM V11 to V19

[john . x . posada]

Hi guys...with getting a replacement laptop, I may be required to go from v11 
to v19 in one leap. 

Hardware requirements are not open for discussion...

What should I be aware of that I wouldn't be able to grock in a reasonable time 
(15 minutes)

I'm doing only non-structured and my output is 90% PDF and 10% to Word.

Thanks...I don't use this forum as much as I used to, but it is comforting to 
know that it is always there...thanks again


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Re: [Framers] Advice on slimming down a guide; customized guides per customer??

[john . x . posada]

I use groups and folders to control what modules are included in a book. I 
include and exclude depending on the type of book I'm producing. 

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Caroline Tabach
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 12:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Advice on slimming down a guide; customized guides per 
customer??

Can you expand?

Caroline Tabach

בתאריך יום ה׳, 11 באוק׳ 2018, 18:36, מאת ‏:

> I use GROUPS and FOLDERS all the time...I couldn't do my work without them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:14 AM
> To: Frame Users 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Advice on slimming down a guide; customized 
> guides per customer??
>
> Hi Caroline,
>
> I've only played with groups a folders a little, so there's not much I 
> can tell you. I can say that using a folder will change how your 
> headings are numbered, but using a group won't.
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 1:25 AM Caroline Tabach 
>  >
> wrote:
>
> > Lin
> > thanks  for getting back to me.
> >
> > Are there people with experience with groups?
> >
> > I will look up those numbering articles and think about either this 
> > suggestion, or the suggestion of using conditional text.
> >
> > I have to present the ideas to the SMEs next week
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 2:34 PM Lin Sims  wrote:
> >
> > > My apologies if this response is late; I've been on vacation.
> > >
> > > Assuming I understand the situation you are describing, I think 
> > > your best choice is number 2. There are a number of good guides 
> > > that describe how
> > to
> > > use FrameMaker's numbering blocks to set up some pretty 
> > > complicated numbering schemes without too much difficulty (I'd 
> > > recommend the ones by Lester Smalley and Dan Emory and I can 
> > > probably dig those up for you if
> > you
> > > can't find them on the web), and once those are set up all you 
> > > have to do is regenerate the book when you go to publish, which 
> > > you'd have to do anyway for the Table of Contents.
> > >
> > > You might also want to look into using Groups, which I believe 
> > > will let
> > you
> > > use individual files (your boxes) as sections of a chapter (your
> > families)
> > > without having to mess too much with the numbering scheme. I 
> > > haven't used Groups, though, so I can't provide too much advice on 
> > > that. The only
> > caveat
> > > here is that each box will start on a new page, because that's how 
> > > FrameMaker handles files collected into a book.
> > >
> > > I do not think text insets is a good choice here, since you would 
> > > have to relink the text insets every time you create a book 
> > > depending on what's used for a particular customer and that could 
> > > get both tedious and error prone depending on how many customers 
> > > you
> have.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 8:24 AM Caroline Tabach <
> > caroline.tab...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have converted the very large Word user guide to FrameMaker.  
> > > > I am
> > > using
> > > > Unstructured Frame 2017
> > > >
> > > > This is a guide for a product which has general information 
> > > > about how
> > to
> > > > use the product at the beginning, and a few chapters with 
> > > > general information at the end.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The product is made up of  100 "boxes" which belong to 5 
> > > > families (I
> > am
> > > > just calling them boxes for the sake of the example)
> > > >
> > > > The FrameMaker book I made uses only chapters, not volumes, 
> > > > there is a chapter for each box family, with information about 
> > > > each of the boxes
> > in
> > > > that family.
> > > >
> > > > Each customer only needs to user 4 or 5 "boxes", so we want to 
> > > > make
> > user
> > > > guides that are smaller and more focused
> > > >
> > > > I have made a book with everything in it, and now I want to show 
> > > > the
> > SME
> > > > how we can use Frame to make smaller guides. I am wondering 
> > > > about the
> > > best
> > > > way to do this.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Make 5 books each with one box family in it, which will 
> > > > contain info about all the boxes in that family as well as the 
> > > > general
> information.
> > > end
> > > > users will receive the guide with info about the box family, 
> > > > they will
> > > have
> > > > info about 15 boxes even if they only bought one
> > > >
> > > > 2. Redo the guide that I did and make the box families to be 
> > > > volumes,
> > and
> > > > then each box is a chapter. .
> > > >
> > > > This means it will be easy to add or remove boxes from the 
> > > > guide, this
> > > also
> > > > means it is possible to customize the guides per customers The 
> > > > company are using heading 

Re: [Framers] Advice on slimming down a guide; customized guides per customer??

[john . x . posada]

I use GROUPS and FOLDERS all the time...I couldn't do my work without them.

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:14 AM
To: Frame Users 
Subject: Re: [Framers] Advice on slimming down a guide; customized guides per 
customer??

Hi Caroline,

I've only played with groups a folders a little, so there's not much I can tell 
you. I can say that using a folder will change how your headings are numbered, 
but using a group won't.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 1:25 AM Caroline Tabach 
wrote:

> Lin
> thanks  for getting back to me.
>
> Are there people with experience with groups?
>
> I will look up those numbering articles and think about either this 
> suggestion, or the suggestion of using conditional text.
>
> I have to present the ideas to the SMEs next week
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 2:34 PM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> > My apologies if this response is late; I've been on vacation.
> >
> > Assuming I understand the situation you are describing, I think your 
> > best choice is number 2. There are a number of good guides that 
> > describe how
> to
> > use FrameMaker's numbering blocks to set up some pretty complicated 
> > numbering schemes without too much difficulty (I'd recommend the 
> > ones by Lester Smalley and Dan Emory and I can probably dig those up 
> > for you if
> you
> > can't find them on the web), and once those are set up all you have 
> > to do is regenerate the book when you go to publish, which you'd 
> > have to do anyway for the Table of Contents.
> >
> > You might also want to look into using Groups, which I believe will 
> > let
> you
> > use individual files (your boxes) as sections of a chapter (your
> families)
> > without having to mess too much with the numbering scheme. I haven't 
> > used Groups, though, so I can't provide too much advice on that. The 
> > only
> caveat
> > here is that each box will start on a new page, because that's how 
> > FrameMaker handles files collected into a book.
> >
> > I do not think text insets is a good choice here, since you would 
> > have to relink the text insets every time you create a book 
> > depending on what's used for a particular customer and that could 
> > get both tedious and error prone depending on how many customers you have.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 8:24 AM Caroline Tabach <
> caroline.tab...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have converted the very large Word user guide to FrameMaker.  I 
> > > am
> > using
> > > Unstructured Frame 2017
> > >
> > > This is a guide for a product which has general information about 
> > > how
> to
> > > use the product at the beginning, and a few chapters with general 
> > > information at the end.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The product is made up of  100 "boxes" which belong to 5 families  
> > > (I
> am
> > > just calling them boxes for the sake of the example)
> > >
> > > The FrameMaker book I made uses only chapters, not volumes, there 
> > > is a chapter for each box family, with information about each of 
> > > the boxes
> in
> > > that family.
> > >
> > > Each customer only needs to user 4 or 5 "boxes", so we want to 
> > > make
> user
> > > guides that are smaller and more focused
> > >
> > > I have made a book with everything in it, and now I want to show 
> > > the
> SME
> > > how we can use Frame to make smaller guides. I am wondering about 
> > > the
> > best
> > > way to do this.
> > >
> > > 1. Make 5 books each with one box family in it, which will contain 
> > > info about all the boxes in that family as well as the general 
> > > information.
> > end
> > > users will receive the guide with info about the box family, they 
> > > will
> > have
> > > info about 15 boxes even if they only bought one
> > >
> > > 2. Redo the guide that I did and make the box families to be 
> > > volumes,
> and
> > > then each box is a chapter. .
> > >
> > > This means it will be easy to add or remove boxes from the guide, 
> > > this
> > also
> > > means it is possible to customize the guides per customers The 
> > > company are using heading numbering, so this means redoing all of
> the
> > > heading of all the paragraph styles, which might get complicated
> > >
> > > 3. Another idea I had was to set the book up as described above, 
> > > with a chapter for each box family, but to have each box as a text 
> > > inset, and
> be
> > > able to create user guides per box. Highly customizing this, but 
> > > means
> I
> > > don't have to mess with the numbering, but maybe this will make 
> > > life complicated
> > >
> > > What would you recommend?
> > >
> > > Are there advantages and disadvantages of each method?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your ideas
> > >
> > > --
> > > Caroline Tabach
> > > Technical/Marcom Writer
> > > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com
> > > ___
> > >
> > > This message is from the Framers mailing 

Re: [Framers] ANN: FrameMaker 2019

[john . x . posada]

Aren't NDAs terminated once the product hits the market?

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From: Framers 
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Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 4:36 PM
To: Framers List 
Subject: Re: [Framers] ANN: FrameMaker 2019

People in the Beta program are under a strict NDA and can't talk about it.

Art Campbell
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On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 3:47 PM Caroline Tabach 
wrote:

> Have people seen a beta version? What do they think?
>
> Caroline Tabach
>
> בתאריך יום ד׳, 22 באוג׳ 2018, 22:03, מאת Rick Quatro 
> ‏ >:
>
> > There should be some grace period where an upgrade would be free. I 
> > can't say for sure, but that has been a tradition in the software 
> > industry for
> a
> > long time.
> >
> > Rick Quatro
> > Carmen Publishing Inc.
> > r...@frameexpert.com
> > 585-729-6746 NEW!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers 
> > 
> > On Behalf Of Caroline Tabach
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 2:41 PM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. < 
> > framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] ANN: FrameMaker 2019
> >
> > My company bought me 2017 last week.
> >
> > Couldn't Adobe tell them to wait a week?
> >
> > Caroline Tabach
> >
> > בתאריך יום ד׳, 22 באוג׳ 2018, 18:01, מאת Rick Quatro ‏<
> r...@rickquatro.com
> > >:
> >
> > > Hi Framers,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > FrameMaker 2019 has been announced:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick Quatro
> > >
> > > Carmen Publishing Inc.
> > >
> > > r...@frameexpert.com
> > >
> > > 585-729-6746 NEW!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Framers] list members not using FrameMaker now

[john . x . posada]

I still use FM, but recently have transitioned some deliverables off FM because 
I've restructured the documents to be much more streamlined (600 page docs down 
to 25 pages)

Might it be considered, to retain readership, that we evolve this group from 
"just" FM, to include Flare? 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Monique Semp
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:41 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
; Eichelberger, Mark (King of Prussia) 

Subject: [Framers] list members not using FrameMaker now

   Yep, me too. I'm not using FrameMaker at the moment (and haven't for
   some time), but not only might I need to use Frame again in the future
   (and so want to have had an ear out for issues), I learn many things
   other than specific FrameMaker items from this list's membership! And
   so I've deliberately kept my subscription. I figure it hurts nobody,
   and is useful to me.
   -Monique

   On 6/26/18 8:33 AM, Eichelberger, Mark (King of Prussia) wrote:

Jack,
I just have not gotten around to unsubscribing to this list.  I probably will 
on e day, but I have not yet decided to cut the cord completely.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing

And now I wonder how many closet Flare users are on this list. 

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Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

[john . x . posada]

The test shouldn't be to find out if they have Advanced knowledge of FM...it 
should be an advanced knowledge of what you USE in FM for your book of work.

Example...I'd fail on the use for GREP... but in my environment, GREP would be 
of no purpose.

You aren't Adobe and looking for a support position...just make sure they can 
do everything you need to do.

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>> Below are some topics that come to mind, but it is not exhaustive.
For writing with an existing template, I would look at:
- Proper use of spell checker, including how to import/export dictionaries into 
documents.
- Proper use of Find/Change, including GREP.
- Proper method of using existing Paragraph and Character styles.
- Best method of importing Word and Excel documents with and without formats.
- Proper creation of cross-references, user variables, hyperlinks, etc.
- Proper method of creating and adding new chapters to an existing book and 
updating book.
- Exporting the file/book to existing PDF preset.

For unstructured Frame template knowledge, I would look at:
- Best practices for names styles for usage efficiency (this is a very 
subjective area).
- Knowledge of use, editing, and creation of Paragraph styles, including how to 
edit multiple styles at once.
- Knowledge of automatic numbering best practices.
- Knowledge of use, editing, and creating of Character styles (using As Is 
settings).
- Knowledge of use, editing, and creating of Table styles and custom table 
formatting.
- Knowledge of use, editing, and creating of master pages, including custom 
pages.
- Knowledge of the difference between import of text and graphics, using the 
copy into document and import by reference settings.

Intermediate
- Knowledge of creation, use, editing, of Books, including numbering and 
pagination settings using folders and groups.
- Knowledge of creation, use, editing, of generated files, including editing 
reference pages.
- Knowledge of editing cross reference styles, applying character styles to 
x-refs and variables.
- Knowledge of using text insets.
- Editing of images in Photoshop or similar program.
- Best method for different types of imported graphics, including how to scan 
line art such as schematics. 
- Knowledge of PDF settings and how to do a PDF review cycle in Acrobat Pro.

Advanced
- Knowledge of conditional text. 
- Reuse of existing generated pages from one book to another.

Structured templates is a separate list, but the template designer would need 
to know the above first. 

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Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

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Depends on what your output from Frame is. If it is PDF printed docs, then yes, 
get Acrobat.

OTOH, if your output is something else, get whatever you need to polish/adjust 
that output.

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Subject: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

Hi
I moved to a new job and they want to buy Frame for me.

How exciting!

I wanted to ask.  Do I need to buy Acrobat too?
Or us Frame enough?
To make pdf files,  and also to fix the page they open to etc.
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Re: [Framers] Default Character Tags

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I'm good now. I figured it out. I needed to do Commands -> Set Window to As. 
This was not the default 

Thanks

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Default Character Tags

Hi John,

I sent a screen grab to your personal address that shows an example of what I 
mean about where to click. The arrow highlights where I click, and then press 
CTRL+D. Hope this helps.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Default Character Tags

I get a message "No insertion point or selected text"

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 9:33 AM,  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Open the FM file in which you to create the format, and then click 
> anywhere outside the document margins. Press CTRL + D to open the 
> Character Designer, and then under Commands, select Set Window to As 
> Is. Now, change only the property or properties that you want for the 
> new tag, and then under Commands, select New Format. In the  New 
> Format dialog box, leave New Format selected, but clear Apply to 
> Selection. Name the new character tag, and then click Create. Voilà - 
> you're good to go.
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com 
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
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>
> OK...I hate to admit it.
>
> I've always been "hit and miss" when defining a character tag that 
> inherits all the Paragraph attributes except for what I want to change.
>
> For instance,  I want a Character tag  for use in a variable 
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OK...I hate to admit it.

I've always been "hit and miss" when defining a character tag that inherits all 
the Paragraph attributes except for what I want to change.

For instance,  I want a Character tag  for use in a variable that only 
bolds the text, but inherits the font family, font size, etc.,

What's the secret sauce?

Sorry for what must be forehead slapping simple.

Thanks


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Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

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BTW...no difference. :-(


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Subject: Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

If you are embedding, try importing by reference.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 6:53 AM,   wrote:
> Hi, guys...when I import PDFs into my FM 11 document, the image that I see is 
> often pixelated.
>
> I think this is attributed to low rez for viewing, but I don't remember what 
> changes to make to show a normal resolution image.
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Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

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Yeah...I'm going to try that next. I had a crash about an hour ago and lost an 
hour of image embedding, so I have to start from scratch on 15 images.

Thanks 

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Subject: Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

If you are embedding, try importing by reference.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 6:53 AM,   wrote:
> Hi, guys...when I import PDFs into my FM 11 document, the image that I see is 
> often pixelated.
>
> I think this is attributed to low rez for viewing, but I don't remember what 
> changes to make to show a normal resolution image.
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Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

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A contributor created some flowcharts within Word. By the time I get them, the 
squares and arrows are all over the place, so I asked them to give me a PDF of 
each image. 

All the PDFs appear with suitable resolution,  and some, when imported retain 
the resolution (viewed at 400%). Just some, appear low and there doesn't seem 
to be a reason between them.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

Maybe I missed this as I haven't been monitoring this thread that closely:

What is the source of your PDF (i.e. What program is being used to generate the 
PDF)? It maybe be that your settings there are determining the preview quality 
PDF upon import into FM.


Craig Ede

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Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

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No., not at the specific step in the workflow

If it can't, it can't. This is a binary issue; 

Yes | No

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Subject: Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

Can you give them PDFs to review instead of FM files?

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Subject: Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

I have other people reviewing what I send them. I'm tired of telling them 
"Don't worry, it will look fine."

>> Since FM format is not your deliverable, then it doesn't matter how 
>> FM
actually renders the image to your screen.

Maybe it doesn't to you or to me, but you and I don't count.

If what I'm looking for doesn't exist, then I just need to know.

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To: brad 
Subject: Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

So, if the output is fine I recommend letting it go.

Since FM format is not your deliverable, then it doesn't matter how FM actually 
renders the image to your screen.

I wonder if somehow FM is using N EPS version of the image and displaying the 
Tiff preview or some equivalent?

Cheers.

On Mar 15, 2018 11:13 AM,  wrote:

> It prints fine. That's not the issue. I want it to view "fine".
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into
> FM11
>
> How does that PDF output to print or to PDF from framemaker? Does it 
> look low res in the fm output?
>
> On Mar 15, 2018 9:53 AM,  wrote:
>
> > Hi, guys...when I import PDFs into my FM 11 document, the image that 
> > I see is often pixelated.
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Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

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I have other people reviewing what I send them. I'm tired of telling them 
"Don't worry, it will look fine."

>> Since FM format is not your deliverable, then it doesn't matter how FM 
>> actually renders the image to your screen.

Maybe it doesn't to you or to me, but you and I don't count.

If what I'm looking for doesn't exist, then I just need to know.

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To: brad 
Subject: Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

So, if the output is fine I recommend letting it go.

Since FM format is not your deliverable, then it doesn't matter how FM actually 
renders the image to your screen.

I wonder if somehow FM is using N EPS version of the image and displaying the 
Tiff preview or some equivalent?

Cheers.

On Mar 15, 2018 11:13 AM,  wrote:

> It prints fine. That's not the issue. I want it to view "fine".
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Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

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It prints fine. That's not the issue. I want it to view "fine".

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Subject: Re: [Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

How does that PDF output to print or to PDF from framemaker? Does it look low 
res in the fm output?

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[Framers] PDF Images are Pixelated when imported into FM11

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Hi, guys...when I import PDFs into my FM 11 document, the image that I see is 
often pixelated.

I think this is attributed to low rez for viewing, but I don't remember what 
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a LAN Shared Drive

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Thanks...some things are under my control and some I can only suggest. I've 
been suggesting the "no space" issue...the jury is out.

One of the advantages to having a closed highly regulated environment is we 
pretty much all uie the same desktop software pack, so the variation of 
browsers is kept to a minimum.

I'll evaluate the double slash vs the forward slash. Thanks 

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Linking to a LAN Shared Drive


FrameMaker uses the backslash character in dialogs for specifying special 
characters, such as \D equates to a double dagger symbol. To avoid this, you 
will need to double up the backslashes, thus:
file:///xxx.xxx.xxx\\xx\\CORP\\MANY\\DEPTDATA\\\\xxx_Reference.pdf

FrameMaker historically had multi-platform support, and so all path names in 
FrameMaker can be specified using forward slashes, for example:
     file://hostname/xx/CORP/MANY/DEPTDATA//xxx_Reference.pdf

You may want to consider NOT referencing file content, as some browsers
- Internet Explorer and Google Chrome - can get picky, and fail to display 
content.  Additionally, spaces and 'extended' characters in path names can also 
cause trouble.


I hope this helps.
// Simon BUCH

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> Hi  Guys…something odd.
>
> In the Hypertext dialog box with command Go to URL, I enter
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> File:///\\xxx.xxx.xxx\xx\CORP\MANY\DEPTDATA\\xxx_Reference.pdf
>
> When I click the button, it converts to:
>
> message URL 
> File:///\\xxx.xxx.xxx\xx\CORP\smANY‡EPTDATA\\xxx_Reference.pdf
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> What’s with …CORP\smANY‡EPTDATA… and how do I prevent it from altering what 
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a LAN Shared Drive

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Hi  Guys…something odd.

In the Hypertext dialog box with command Go to URL, I enter

message URL File:///\\xxx.xxx.xxx\xx\CORP\MANY\DEPTDATA\\xxx_Reference.pdf

When I click the button, it converts to:

message URL File:///\\xxx.xxx.xxx\xx\CORP\smANY‡EPTDATA\\xxx_Reference.pdf

What’s with …CORP\smANY‡EPTDATA… and how do I prevent it from altering what I’m 
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[Framers] Linking to a LAN Shared Drive

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Hi guys...my company is transitioning everything from a SharePoint CMS to a 
Network Shared LAN drive.

I'm looking for the "secret sauce" that will allow me to make clickable links 
as follows:

https://xxx.xxx.xxx/xxx/xxx//file name.pdf

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\\xxx.xxx.xxx\xx\\xxx\xxx\xxx\file name.pdf

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Re: [Framers] Keyword list as the Index source

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Yes, yes, I know...that's not how indexing is done. However, this is an interim 
document to satisfy an audit requirement while I correctly index a 700 page 
book.

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FM11.
Hi, guys...I have a keyword list (Glossary). Can I use that as the source for a 
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Re: [Framers] Keyword list as the Index source

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Right now it's a table, but I can easy convert table to text.
And it will give all the page numbers for where that term is found?

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Keyword list as the Index source

Are each keyword in a separate FrameMaker paragraph? If so, you can do an 
alphabetical paragraph list.

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FM11.
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[Framers] Keyword list as the Index source

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[Framers] Using FM to edit MIF code

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I saw someone post that FM can be used to edit the code of a MIF file.

Can someone point me?


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Re: [Framers] Replace URLs

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Every one of the URLs contains the absolute URL in a marker.

I figured I was going to hear from you. Tell me what you have in mind. :-)

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Subject: RE: [Framers] Replace URLs

Hi John,

You can use FrameMaker's built-in Find/Change feature to change the URLs in the 
text. For URLs in markers, you will need to use scripting. Keep in mind that 
FrameMaker versions 10 and higher include ExtendScript built in. If you are 
interested in pursuing a scripting solution, please let me know. Thank you very 
much.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Replace URLs

Hi, guys. My company is reorganizing its SharePoint infrastructure with the new 
year by moving  a whole bunch of SP project folders. My documentation has 
thousands of URL to files and folders on multiple SP sites that are going to be 
consolidated to one SP site, hence, breaking every one of my links.

This means I need to change the root part of thousands of URLs from one address 
to another. This has to be applicable against a whole book and not file by 
file...I have over 1,000 FM 11 files

What are my options?

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Hi, guys. My company is reorganizing its SharePoint infrastructure with the new 
year by moving  a whole bunch of SP project folders. My documentation has 
thousands of URL to files and folders on multiple SP sites that are going to be 
consolidated to one SP site, hence, breaking every one of my links.

This means I need to change the root part of thousands of URLs from one address 
to another. This has to be applicable against a whole book and not file by 
file...I have over 1,000 FM 11 files

What are my options?

Thanks

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Re: [Framers] Who's in charge?

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>> First rule of FrameMaker: use only paragraph and character tags to format 
>> your text.
>> Second rule of FrameMaker: use only paragraph and character tags to format 
>> your text.

I won't let a single Hard Return in my docs that isn't a Line End and no 
keyboard formatting. 


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First rule of FrameMaker: use only paragraph and character tags to format your 
text.

Second rule of FrameMaker: use only paragraph and character tags to format your 
text.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Dennis Brunnenmeyer 
 wrote:
> If I want to change the color of the text in a paragraph designer, do 
> I need to create a new character format or a new paragraph format?

Depends on whether you want to apply the color to part of a paragraph or the 
whole paragraph.

Generally speaking, you don't want to be creating tags on the fly. You want to 
design a template with the minimum number of tags.
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Re: [Framers] Won't recognize keystrokes

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BTW...There is a small lock icon in the top icon row . Click to toggle the
lock on and off.

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>Do I remember something about a key combination that turns a page into
View
>only and back?

Yes; try Esc Shift+f l (lowercase L) k.

(Found by googling "framemaker view only mode" :-).

HTH
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Re: [Framers] Having the next file start mid-page

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I already o what you are suggesting. Howerver, I want Heading 1s to appear
sequentially on the same page, even though they are the first style on the
first page of each new file.

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If I understand your situation correctly, then you can have your first H1
immediately follow the Chapter Title if the Chapter title appears on a
master page First that includes two text frames, one for the title and
another for the rest of the text. Then set Heading 1 to start at Top of
Column instead of Top of Page.

Inline image 1

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  Hey, guys...long-shot question..

  FM11 Unstructured.

  Has anyone come up with the technique of having a file start immediately
  after the previous file, on the same page?

  I have a style called Chapter Title, with the next style Heading 1.

  There may be 2-3 files with Heading 1 after the file for Chapter Title.

  Right now, each Heading 1 has to start on the next page and I'd like it
  to
  appear after the content of the Chapter Title page.

  Am I dreaming?

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[Framers] Having the next file start mid-page

[john . x . posada]

Hey, guys...long-shot question..

FM11 Unstructured.

Has anyone come up with the technique of having a file start immediately
after the previous file, on the same page?

I have a style called Chapter Title, with the next style Heading 1.

There may be 2-3 files with Heading 1 after the file for Chapter Title.

Right now, each Heading 1 has to start on the next page and I'd like it to
appear after the content of the Chapter Title page.

Am I dreaming?

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Re: [Framers] heading text in "Running H/F #" - clever truncation ?

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Figure out how to do reasonable length headings. Doing very long headings
will continue to plague you on other issues. There's a reason there is a
rule on sensible lengths.

or make the footer a smaller tighter text font.

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Date:   08/15/2016 12:01 PM
Subject:[Framers] heading text in "Running H/F #" - clever truncation ?
Sent by:"Framers"   



Hello, Framers,

For an FAQ doc, I’ve broken the usual “rule” of sensible-length headings
because I’m making them be the full text of a question. So with the font
size, the headings are often 3- or 4-lines.

The problem is that I have my master pages configured to include the
heading text in the recto footers, via the “Running H/F #” variable. And
with these very long headings, the text overruns the available space in the
footer, pushes the footer “artwork” (just a nice pipe line between the
heading text and the page number) to the wrong spot, and completely
obliterates the page number.

So, what sorts of schemes/work-arounds have people created to deal with
this sort of issue?

(I can imagine creating a new heading style for the long-winded headings,
creating a new hidden-text heading style for the truncated text that I’d
wish in the footer, and then adding the style for the truncated heading to
the “Running H/F #” definition, which already has multiple styles to
account for, for example, “heading 1” and “heading 1 page”. But this is
certainly a hassle, and won’t be at all obvious to some other writer, or my
future self.)

Thanks for suggestions,
-Monique
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Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

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Actually ...I see it opposite from you. Structure/DITA to me notes the DITA
version and if it was another, say, Structure/SGML as another kind.

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To: Monique Semp <monique.s...@earthlink.net>,
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Date:   08/11/2016 01:04 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for
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My question is not directed at you specifically, Monique, but I'm curious
about how the term "structure/DITA" came into play, as if they are
interchangeable and mean the same thing. I am seeing this used more and
more in presentations and online, and it really gets under my skin. DITA is
one implementation of structured authoring, just like "Kleenex" is one
implementation of a "tissue". Sure, I understand the need in some
industries to have an authoring standard so that information can be
exchanged and whatnot. But when we use the term "structure/DITA", don't we
give the impression that structured authoring is DITA? That you can't have
one without the other? And that's just not true. My experience is that you
can easily (well, relatively easily) implement structured authoring in a
tool like FrameMaker, without the overhead of a full-blown DITA
implementation.

I'd love to hear some opinions on that.


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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces
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Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 11:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

> I'll be presenting nuts-and-bolts examples of how to do a bunch of
"structured/DITA things" in Word, FrameMaker, Doxygen/Javadoc, and MadCap
Flare...
I gave this presentation to the STC-Berkeley chapter last night, and per
several requests from this list, am sharing the slide deck. You can find it
on SlideShare:
http://www.slideshare.net/msemp/adopting-structuredanddita-best-practices-for-any-toolset?qid=38e06f93-0828-471c-a39b-54267a5660d4==_search=1
, and on my LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/moniquesemp (for
now in the Summary section, and after “a while” in the experience entry for
Society for Technical Communication).
I’d certainly welcome comment and discussion, -Monique

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Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

[john . x . posada]

And a cover page, and a TOC page,and a Front Matter page, and a horizontal
layout page if you are inclined

Can't you have a mater page for each of the side tabs, then have FM select
the MP automatically based on a paragraph style you can apply to the
section?

I haven't been following this thread much, so if what I'm saying doesn't
make sense, I'm getting used to it.

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Date:   08/11/2016 10:31 AM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs
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Then I'm missing something in the discussion: I'm not creating additional
master page sets. By default, a FM file has a "Left" and a "Right" master
page... which I am using. I'm simply copying the relevant background object
group from the side tab master FM file and pasting it onto the "Right"
master page for that chapter FM file. I'm not changing anything else.

The side tab master file is where I set sizing and positioning for all of
the tab groups relevant to one another, and then simply utilize as needed
throughout the "real" chapter files... For the chapter 1 FM file, the tab 1
group of objects for the side tab get copied, for the chapter 2 FM file,
the tab 2 group, etc. Since copy and paste work on exact position, it's a
very simple process.

I'm hard pressed to understand how not putting the tab objects on the
master pages would make this process easier.

-Dan

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To: Harding, Dan <dhard...@illinois.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

No, but it makes your life easier.  Even if you have 10 or more different
master pages, wouldn't it be easier to have on MP and just define which
page to use?

The only time I could picture multiple MP sets is one for each client or
document type (Release note vs instructions_

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs
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"That seems wrong to me. Master pages should not vary from chapter to
chapter."

Since when? As long as the page dimensions and main text flow frames are
identical, master page ancillary content can most certainly vary by
chapter. You are not limited to using a single master page set for an
entire book.

-Dan

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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces
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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:02 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

That seems wrong to me. Master pages should not vary from chapter to
chapter.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Harding, Dan <dhard...@illinois.edu>
wrote:
> Maybe I'm too "old school" but I've been using side tabs for years,
> but a
simple manual implementation rather than anything automated.
>
> I have a one-page master document just for side tabs that has ALL of
> the
thumb tabs on it for the entire book (or more than

Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

[john . x . posada]

No, but it makes your life easier.  Even if you have 10 or more different
master pages, wouldn't it be easier to have on MP and just define which
page to use?

The only time I could picture multiple MP sets is one for each client or
document type (Release note vs instructions_

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Subject:Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs
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"That seems wrong to me. Master pages should not vary from chapter to
chapter."

Since when? As long as the page dimensions and main text flow frames are
identical, master page ancillary content can most certainly vary by
chapter. You are not limited to using a single master page set for an
entire book.

-Dan

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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces
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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:02 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

That seems wrong to me. Master pages should not vary from chapter to
chapter.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Harding, Dan <dhard...@illinois.edu>
wrote:
> Maybe I'm too "old school" but I've been using side tabs for years, but a
simple manual implementation rather than anything automated.
>
> I have a one-page master document just for side tabs that has ALL of the
thumb tabs on it for the entire book (or more than one recto page if there
are multiple sequences of tabs), properly spaced with graphics and text
grouped, and then simply select and copy and paste the relevant group onto
the master page of each chapter.
>
> One copy & paste action per chapter. Works like a charm.
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Re: [Framers] Import a custom font

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If it's only one word, I might not bother and just make it an inline
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Hi,

I would like to use a particular font for one particular word. Can someone
advise, please, how I would make it available in FM?

Thanks.

FM12
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Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

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Sometimes ya fight.

Sometimes ya don't

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Date:   08/03/2016 02:20 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content
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Yes. No point in being a rebel.
Nadine

  From: Pat Christenson <pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
 To: Lin Sims <ljsims...@gmail.com>
Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 5:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

Thanks for the reminder!

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Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 4:11 PM
To: Pat Christenson <pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

Just don't forget to take the clew with you, or you'll be completely lost.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Pat Christenson
<pat.christen...@morningstar.com<mailto:pat.christen...@morningstar.com>>
wrote:
Thank you, everyone who responded to my question.

I met with my managers today and we worked out a solution that's involves
creating a mythical beast that's half out-of-date user guide and
half-up-to-date release notes. When I'm not following the thread out of
that maze (are you loving my classical references?), I will be updating the
user guide, merging the two halves into one glorious golden fleece that men
will cross oceans to marvel at.

Thanks again.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content


Fine, you all can have the last word. I know better than to continue this
debate. I should have known better than to even start it.

Russ

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Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 13:58:29 -0700
From: Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com<mailto:rob...@lauriston.com>>
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Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured  content
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Structured markup has been around longer than the web, PDFs, online help,
or personal computers.

Since you make your living from structured content, I'm not going to waste
time explaining why it's not the best choice for every set of requirements,
and why people are still creating interesting and useful unstructured
tools.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:01 PM, <r...@weststreetconsulting.com<
mailto:r...@weststreetconsulting.com>> wrote:
> Pat, I'd like to assert that structured content is generally THE
> answer, period. Nothing interesting happens with unstructured content
> anymore, because the technology is decades old. Any technical writer
> in a high-demand environment should be using structured content. If
> you are not, you are now closer to the typewriter than you are to
> modern practices. ...


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Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

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Structured is the right way to do if it is the right way to go...not
because it is structured.

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Date:   07/28/2016 04:14 PM
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I disagree...you have the tool doing the driving instead of the
requirement.

If I want interesting, I'll go white water rafting. It's mind-sets like
this that cause $10,000.00 projects to get budgeted at $100,00.00

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Date:07/28/2016 04:01 PM
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content
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Pat, I'd like to assert that structured content is generally THE answer,
period. Nothing interesting happens with unstructured content anymore,
because the technology is decades old. Any technical writer in a
high-demand environment should be using structured content. If you are
not, you are now closer to the typewriter than you are to modern
practices.

Having said that, DITA is but one option. Some find answers there,
others do not. There are many ways to structure information and get
significant benefits. Fortunately, you are already using FrameMaker
which is a very flexible structured authoring tool. Take some time to
investigate and see what it has to offer. You would be in much worse
shape if you were using Word or similar.

Also, I have to comment on this one statement:

"I can't stress enough that right now, we need short-term solutions."

This is the quickest path to failure I can think of. All roads to
success involve the long view and much investment. If you won't do this,
nobody here can help you regardless any tools or technologies.

Russ


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Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

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I disagree...you have the tool doing the driving instead of the
requirement.

If I want interesting, I'll go white water rafting. It's mind-sets like
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Date:   07/28/2016 04:01 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content
Sent by:"Framers"   



Pat, I'd like to assert that structured content is generally THE answer,
period. Nothing interesting happens with unstructured content anymore,
because the technology is decades old. Any technical writer in a
high-demand environment should be using structured content. If you are
not, you are now closer to the typewriter than you are to modern
practices.

Having said that, DITA is but one option. Some find answers there,
others do not. There are many ways to structure information and get
significant benefits. Fortunately, you are already using FrameMaker
which is a very flexible structured authoring tool. Take some time to
investigate and see what it has to offer. You would be in much worse
shape if you were using Word or similar.

Also, I have to comment on this one statement:

"I can't stress enough that right now, we need short-term solutions."

This is the quickest path to failure I can think of. All roads to
success involve the long view and much investment. If you won't do this,
nobody here can help you regardless any tools or technologies.

Russ


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Re: [Framers] OTS DITA and CMS

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Have you tried Book Include/Exclude?

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Date:   07/26/2016 03:18 PM
Subject:[Framers] OTS DITA and CMS
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Hello All,


I'm looking for a quick and easy transition to a more modern workflow to
help keep up with

software development. I've currently only authored in unstructured Frame
under a book

paradigm, and am finding it impossible to track development. Basically, we
have two writers

to support ~30 developers. The SW group has moved to an agile scrum process
and create

software features in modular form. Then they are checked into the SW pool
and tested by

another team who then publishes the FW releases to the Web team. The
testing takes about 1

to 2 weeks and some features may not get released. Also, we do not really
know when the SW

is released until it goes live (much of the process is automated and
decisions happen

overnight). Dev cycles are three weeks and the software is usually not
available until it

is checked in for testing since there are many dependencies.


I'd like to find a way to have content more modular and easy to snap-in/out
like the

software folks can switch on/off software features. I've thought of trying
this with

conditional text, but I think the complexity and granularity of what needs
to be controlled

is too high. I'd also like for the writing resources to be more agile so
they can work on

any document piece as needed. Right now, we move around and track "book"
packages and

publish PDF books with incrementing revisions.


Any suggestions on how to proceed or where to look for some ideas?


Thanks,

C

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Re: [Framers] "Exemplified" - use in technical documentation?

[john . x . posada]

Using the word "exemplified" is not even used properly in this example:

"Exemplified" denotes a typical example. In your example, it isn't "an
example", it is the actual graphic image.


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Date:   05/31/2016 12:51 PM
Subject:[Framers] "Exemplified" - use in technical documentation?
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Hi,

A new technical writer uses « exemplified in Fig. X.X» in captions to
describe images in our technical reference documentation for a quality
control software.

I have asked that a simpler synonym be used (shown in Figure X.X).

I consider that "exemplified" is not a commonly used term (I haven't heard
or read the term in years) and is not easily read. The writer does not want
to give the term up, considering it equal to "illustrated in".

What do you think?

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Re: [Framers] Malware lure? Was Re: latest news

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I also was suspicious of URL and refused to click on it.

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Date:   05/23/2016 08:49 AM
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On Mon, 23 May 2016, Eduardo F. Cidade Sr. wrote:

> Hey,
> Did you hear the latest news? You should definetely read more info
> here <http://dongythyphi.hotein.com/aeygsfao>

Why does this look like a lure to a malware site?

If it is not, apologies to the original poster; and could you tell us
a bit more about this "latest news"?

If it is, please find a nearby high cliff. You'll know what to do
next.

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Re: [Framers] What causes documentation to fail

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Thanks...though not applicable here. This is for internal documentation for
inhouse systems. No product is being sold and no involvement with marketing
or sales..

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Date:   05/20/2016 04:13 PM
Subject:RE: [Framers] What causes documentation to fail



1. Executives who sign contracts that provide all product support
documentation for free.
2. Other executives who don't want to pay Tech Pubs to produce
contractually required documentation because they have not put it in their
budgets.

Clint

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I'd say that the biggest problem is having managers and SMEs who consider
documentation to be of little or no importance compared to their "real"
work, so their responsibility to provide information or answer questions or
perform reviews is ignored or skimped on.

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 3:35 PM, <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:

> I've never seen a documentation project fail because it had 10 bullets
> in it. :-)
>
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> Aren't bullet points subject to the "universal" 7 +/-2 rule? If so, 10
> bullets would be doomed to failure. But John's original list would be
> OK at
> 8 bullets.
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> Thanks, Peter...but between you and me, I've never experienced a
> failed documentation project because 10 bullets was used. :-).
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Re: [Framers] What causes documentation to fail

[john . x . posada]

I've never seen a documentation project fail because it had 10 bullets in
it. :-)

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Cc: "Framers (E-mail)" <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Date:   05/20/2016 02:31 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] What causes documentation to fail



Aren't bullet points subject to the "universal" 7 +/-2 rule? If so, 10
bullets would be doomed to failure. But John's original list would be OK at
8 bullets.

;^)
-FR


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Thanks, Peter...but between you and me, I've never experienced a failed
documentation project because 10 bullets was used. :-).

John X Posada
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Subject:Re: [Framers] What causes documentation to fail



* Too many bullet points?


* Or too few?





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Re: [Framers] What causes documentation to fail

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Internal documentation ...no competitors.

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What are the risks if you have inadequate or missing documentation?
Legally. How do your docs stack up against your competitors -- that's the
first question a forensic documentation expert will ask if you end up in
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On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:48 AM, <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:

  Hi, guys...by end of today, I need to present to my manager a few bullet
  points for a presentation she is doing on Monday.

  The subject is: "What Causes Documentation to Fail"

  I've started with a few points:

     Not writing to a well-understood target audience
     Including too little or too much information
     Failure to bring documentation into the project early enough in the
     project
     Failure to establish a governance, review, and approval structure
     Lack of clear  roles and responsibilities
     Belief that “anyone can produce acceptable documentation”
     Lack of feedback early enough in the process to implement without
     wasting a large amount of work and/or affecting deadline
     Scope creep

  Anyone want to add more to the list?


  John X Posada
  SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North
  America Holdings Inc
  330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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Re: [Framers] What causes documentation to fail

[john . x . posada]

Thanks, Peter...but between you and me, I've never experienced a failed
documentation project because 10 bullets was used. :-).

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Cc: "Framers (E-mail)" <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Date:   05/20/2016 01:10 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] What causes documentation to fail



* Too many bullet points?


* Or too few?


On May 20, 2016 11:48 AM, <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:

  Hi, guys...by end of today, I need to present to my manager a few bullet
  points for a presentation she is doing on Monday.

  The subject is: "What Causes Documentation to Fail"

  I've started with a few points:

     Not writing to a well-understood target audience
     Including too little or too much information
     Failure to bring documentation into the project early enough in the
     project
     Failure to establish a governance, review, and approval structure
     Lack of clear  roles and responsibilities
     Belief that “anyone can produce acceptable documentation”
     Lack of feedback early enough in the process to implement without
     wasting a large amount of work and/or affecting deadline
     Scope creep

  Anyone want to add more to the list?


  John X Posada
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  America Holdings Inc
  330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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Re: [Framers] What causes documentation to fail

[john . x . posada]

These are the bullets that will be discussed later.

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Date:   05/20/2016 01:00 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] What causes documentation to fail



Starting with your first bullet, I'd ask what is she supposed to
accomplish? Is this defending your job? The department? Looking for ways to
improve? Maybe it's a rhetorical question and her audience already knows
what they want to hear.
Also, IMO bullet points invite argument. It's better to control that
somewhat by posing some common cases of "doc failure" and showing what went
wrong.
For example:
Symptoms and Causes of Doc Failure
Technical audience does not use doc, thinks it's too "marketing-ish" - Not
writing to a well-understood target audience
Operator audience does not use doc, too much "theory" - Not writing to a
well-understood target audience, Including too much information
Admin audience does not use doc, too "push-button" - Not writing to a
well-understood target audience, Including too little background
information
Doc production cycle is always in crisis mode - Failure to bring
documentation into the project early enough in the project

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 12:48 PM, <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:

  Hi, guys...by end of today, I need to present to my manager a few bullet
  points for a presentation she is doing on Monday.

  The subject is: "What Causes Documentation to Fail"

  I've started with a few points:

     Not writing to a well-understood target audience
     Including too little or too much information
     Failure to bring documentation into the project early enough in the
     project
     Failure to establish a governance, review, and approval structure
     Lack of clear  roles and responsibilities
     Belief that ?anyone can produce acceptable documentation?
     Lack of feedback early enough in the process to implement without
     wasting a large amount of work and/or affecting deadline
     Scope creep

  Anyone want to add more to the list?


  John X Posada
  SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North
  America Holdings Inc
  330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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[Framers] What causes documentation to fail

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Hi, guys...by end of today, I need to present to my manager a few bullet
points for a presentation she is doing on Monday.

The subject is: "What Causes Documentation to Fail"

I've started with a few points:

   Not writing to a well-understood target audience
   Including too little or too much information
   Failure to bring documentation into the project early enough in the
   project
   Failure to establish a governance, review, and approval structure
   Lack of clear  roles and responsibilities
   Belief that “anyone can produce acceptable documentation”
   Lack of feedback early enough in the process to implement without
   wasting a large amount of work and/or affecting deadline
   Scope creep

Anyone want to add more to the list?


John X Posada
SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North
America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[john . x . posada]

Actually, I am generating bot documents. However, I'm now linking to PDFs
that I created 1-3 years ago, before I was considering the need to link to
them.

However, I think I'm OK...the PDFs to which I'm linking by page numbers are
not moving, changing pagination, being edited, or renamed, so they are (by
law here) pretty stable.

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From:   Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
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Date:   05/12/2016 03:33 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file
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That works great when you're generating both documents. John is
linking to a PDF he has no control over.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:26 PM,  <j...@jang.nl> wrote:
> I have used a reliable method for cross-deliverable linking in PDF using
Hypertext markers. One set of markers defines the named destinations, using
"newlink XXX". With this method, I set the markers to have names I can
figure out without resorting to investigating tons of destinations in
Acrobat Pro. Also, I can avoid creating named destinations for everything,
which blows up the size of the PDF files.
>
> On the referencing side, I use Hypertext markers with the text "gotolink
XXX" if it is in the same PDF or "openlink DDD:XXX" in case it is a
separate PDF document. There are a couple of snags when PDFs are created
from books with multiple chapters, each with their own named destinations,
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[john . x . posada]

Got it. Thanks.

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From:   Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
To:     John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02, "framers@lists.frameusers.com"
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Date:   05/12/2016 02:19 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file
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Make the window small, zoom in, and set the page display to Single
Page Continuous. If when you double-click a named destination a
heading appears at the top of the window, that's where the named
destination is.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:09 AM,  <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:
> When I click on it, it goes to "somewhere" on the page, but there is no
> indication (shading, box, cursor, etc.,) that tells me what is is
> associated with.
>
> From:   Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
>
> Just click on a few until you find one that goes to the right spot.
> Typically there's one for each hading. Make the Acrobat window smaller
> and set zoom to Actual Size so you can tell exactly where on the page
> each destination is.
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:42 AM,  <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:
>> My destinations are named such as G1018776, with maybe 40 of them on the
>> page.
>>
>> How do I know which is the specific destination I want to jump to?
>>
>> From:   "Robert Lauriston" <rob...@lauriston.com>
>>
>> Open the PDF in Acrobat, open the Destinations pane, sort by page
>> number, look at the destinations on the page you want to link to.
>> Depending on how the PDF was generated, there might not be any.
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[john . x . posada]

When I click on it, it goes to "somewhere" on the page, but there is no
indication (shading, box, cursor, etc.,) that tells me what is is
associated with.

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From:   Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
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Date:   05/12/2016 01:58 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file
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Just click on a few until you find one that goes to the right spot.
Typically there's one for each hading. Make the Acrobat window smaller
and set zoom to Actual Size so you can tell exactly where on the page
each destination is.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:42 AM,  <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:
> My destinations are named such as G1018776, with maybe 40 of them on the
> page.
>
> How do I know which is the specific destination I want to jump to?
>
> From:   "Robert Lauriston" <rob...@lauriston.com>
> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Date:   05/12/2016 01:34 PM
> Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file
> Sent by:"Framers"+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com>
>
>
>
> Open the PDF in Acrobat, open the Destinations pane, sort by page
> number, look at the destinations on the page you want to link to.
> Depending on how the PDF was generated, there might not be any.
>
>
https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/links-attachments-pdfs.html#destinations

>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:26 AM,  <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:
>> I've never used "Jump to Named Destination". How do I implement that to
>> point to a destination page in a PDF that I cannot make changes to?


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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

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My destinations are named such as G1018776, with maybe 40 of them on the
page.

How do I know which is the specific destination I want to jump to?


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Date:   05/12/2016 01:34 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file
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Open the PDF in Acrobat, open the Destinations pane, sort by page
number, look at the destinations on the page you want to link to.
Depending on how the PDF was generated, there might not be any.

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/links-attachments-pdfs.html#destinations


On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:26 AM,  <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:
> I've never used "Jump to Named Destination". How do I implement that to
> point to a destination page in a PDF that I cannot make changes to?
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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[john . x . posada]

I beat the process to hell and it seems to be stable. I use the "Go To URL"
command and use absolute URLs to the PDF, then append #page=[page number]

I've never used "Jump to Named Destination". How do I implement that to
point to a destination page in a PDF that I cannot make changes to?

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Date:   05/12/2016 12:32 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file
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Use named destinations rather than page numbers, which can change if
the PDF is updated.

The MadCap developers didn't get that one right until version 8, and
I'm pretty sure they only got it right then because I rephrased the
issue half a dozen times until they finally understood it.

I'm not sure it's an issue any more, but if the web server does not
support byte-serving, the link won't work.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:46 AM,  <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:
> Actually, I found it and it seems to work.
>
> https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/link-html-pdf-page-acrobat.html


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Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

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Actually, I found it and it seems to work.

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/link-html-pdf-page-acrobat.html



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To: John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02
Date:   05/12/2016 10:43 AM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file



I know that that used to be possible but unsustainable, but I don't know if
that has changed.


I know it is something that people have wanted.


See you in Anaheim?


Grant


  On May 12, 2016 at 8:38 AM john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:


  Hi guys...

  Does anyone know if it possible (and how if it is) to link to a
  specific
  PDF page in a PDF file from an FM page?

  Thanks.

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[Framers] Linking to a specific page in a PDF file

[john . x . posada]

Hi guys...

Does anyone know if it possible (and how if it is) to link to a specific
PDF page in a PDF file from an FM page?

Thanks.

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Re: [Framers] Cannot get FM to drop the even-numbered blank page

[john . x . posada]

I've been at more companies that specified chapters start on the right side
than not.

If you don't, and start anywhere, it's impossible to put chapter divider
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From:   Nancy Allison <ma...@verizon.net>
To: john.sgamm...@actifio.com
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date:   04/28/2016 01:53 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Cannot get FM to drop the even-numbered blank
page
Sent by:"Framers"   



   Thanks, John!
   Given that some companies have requirements for printed documentation,
   what difference does it make if chapters start on the right or
   left-hand page?
   If they are likely to print a single chapter, then I can see wanting to
   have it start on the recto page, but I don't think that's a concern for
   our users.
   I did finally go back to the clean template and reimport it into my
   working document. The template is set up correctly, and the updated
   working document now paginates correctly.
   Thanks, all!


   On 04/27/16, John Sgammato<john.sgamm...@actifio.com> wrote:

   Did you try Format > Pagination  and uncheck Make Page Count Even?
   (That's a guess - I am away from my computer)
   IMO, if your users are likely to print the content, you should always
   leave that last verso blank. In my business, many network admins have
   requirements for printed doc, and nobody provides it anymore, so they
   print the PDFs and put them in binders for compliance reasons.
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Re: [Framers] An item for my FM wish list

[john . x . posada]

I'd rather have the following options available from a front-end dialog.:

__ Show All Files in Book with Excludes in [color]
__ Show Includes Only
__ Show Excludes only

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From:   David Spreadbury <dspre...@yahoo.com>
To:     John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02, "Carol J. Elkins"
<celk...@awrittenword.com>
Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com>,
Framers 
Date:   04/07/2016 03:36 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] An item for my FM wish list



John,
My 69 year old eyes missed it too. My justification for suggesting making
the file name red also.


On Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:52 PM, "john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com"
<john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:


My includes and excludes are intermixed. My 62 year old eyes sometimes miss
the red icon

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Date:04/07/2016 12:16 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] An item for my FM wish list
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I, too, use the Exclude feature in all of my books. Most of my
excluded files are positioned at the end of the book, so my way of
handling this might not work for you if you have excluded files
sprinkled throughout the files in your book. I create a Folder at the
bottom of the book and put all of my excluded files in it. I can
expand and collapse the folder to hide its contents. Framemaker
colors the icon for excluded files and folders red, so it is fairly
easy to spot them.

Carol

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>My wish list...for items I have marked Exclude, I'd like to have the
option
>to  collapse or hide the Excluded so they don't show.

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Re: [Framers] An item for my FM wish list

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My includes and excludes are intermixed. My 62 year old eyes sometimes miss
the red icon

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Date:   04/07/2016 12:16 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] An item for my FM wish list
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I, too, use the Exclude feature in all of my books. Most of my
excluded files are positioned at the end of the book, so my way of
handling this might not work for you if you have excluded files
sprinkled throughout the files in your book. I create a Folder at the
bottom of the book and put all of my excluded files in it. I can
expand and collapse the folder to hide its contents. Framemaker
colors the icon for excluded files and folders red, so it is fairly
easy to spot them.

Carol

At 09:05 AM 4/7/2016, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:
>My wish list...for items I have marked Exclude, I'd like to have the
option
>to  collapse or hide the Excluded so they don't show.

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[Framers] An item for my FM wish list

[john . x . posada]

I use the Book > Exclude option extensively  (please don't try to tell me
why this is a bad idea).

My wish list...for items I have marked Exclude, I'd like to have the option
to  collapse or hide the Excluded so they don't show.

I'd even pay a reasonable amount ($35?) for an ExtendScript.

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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

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Damn...you mean I don't have to do a variable import process on each
individual file, file by file?  I knew there had to be a way better than
doing it  500 times per book. Now you tell me .

You do realize that my stated length of time is to to establish, define,
and replicate it the first time, right?

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You can update a variable in all .fm files in a .book with a single import.

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> load the three books, you have to replicate t to the books, you have to
> copy to the files and you have to check that nothing went wrong.
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> Each book has several hundred files
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> Why would changing a variable take half an hour for only three books?
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

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I'm on a closed regulated system...Everything I use has to go through an
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Date:   04/06/2016 04:53 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?



>You have to define it, you have to check it on a few files, you have to
load the three books, you have to replicate t to the books, you have to
copy to the files and you have to check that nothing went wrong.

I've been using Leximation's BookVars utility,
http://leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php, to easily change vars in all

a book's files at once.

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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

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You also have to include the process for searching for the string and
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Why would changing a variable take half an hour for only three books?

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time
> it took me about 45 minutes.
>
> I have two versions; one that gives the whole name with the iniialism in
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> minutes  change 3 books with 2,000+ pages per book.
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

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You have to define it, you have to check it on a few files, you have to
load the three books, you have to replicate t to the books, you have to
copy to the files and you have to check that nothing went wrong.

Each book has several hundred files

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Why would changing a variable take half an hour for only three books?

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:49 PM,  <john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com> wrote:
> Our department has changed names 3 times. The first time, it took me
almost
> all day to make the change. After I made it into a variable, the next
time
> it took me about 45 minutes.
>
> I have two versions; one that gives the whole name with the iniialism in
> bracket for first time use. The other vesion is just the iniiialism.  45
> minutes  change 3 books with 2,000+ pages per book.
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

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Our department has changed names 3 times. The first time, it took me almost
all day to make the change. After I made it into a variable, the next time
it took me about 45 minutes.

I have two versions; one that gives the whole name with the iniialism in
bracket for first time use. The other vesion is just the iniiialism.  45
minutes  change 3 books with 2,000+ pages per book.

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Date:   04/06/2016 03:42 PM
Subject:RE: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?



FWIW, for me, variables work best for this purpose ... that way, an
occasional search and replace (perhaps at the end) works wonders.

This makes the "product name change" problem _far_ less of an issue in the
long run!

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> > Second this. Use the non-breaking space in the variable and do a
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[john . x . posada]

Don't worry about remembering...at some point, just do a search and replace
and change all occurrences to a variable. You want to use a variable for
product names...sure as hell, at some point, marketing is going to change
product names.

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Date:   04/06/2016 12:24 PM
Subject:[Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
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Hello, Framers,

(Using FrameMaker 2015, but I don’t think that matters.)

I have a 2-word product name that I don’t want to break across lines. I
know that I could always use a non-breaking space between the words to
prevent line breaks. But that’s hard to remember to do all the time. And
the search function treats the spaces as a diff, so if I’ve got
inconsistent usage (some regular spaces, some non-breaking spaces), a
single search won’t find everything.

Another idea is to use a variable, with the space entered as a non-breaking
space. But sure as the sky is blue on this gorgeous day in San Francisco,
at some point I’ll forget and just directly type the product name without a
space, and later edits will push it to the end of the line into a line
break situation.

The Format > Document > Text Options lets you specify “Allow Line Breaks
After” chars, but doesn’t have a “Don’t Allow Line Breaks” option, which is
what I really want here.

Any suggestions for other approaches or utilities I can try?

-Monique
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Re: Is there a way to get around the issue of a book not allowing the same file more than once?

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Why?

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At 10:59 -0400 17/6/15, Art Campbell wrote:

I'd second Peter's approach. Two container files each pulling the single
insert

All good advice so far, but I think I'd initially try to implement this
outside of FrameMaker, using one master source file for the multiple
includes and some script or app that kept multiple clones of it in sync wrt
to the content, if not the numbering.

Just my 10c...

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Re: Is there a way to get around the issue of a book not allowing the same file more than once?

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Hi, Nadine...

It's not whether I want to look at another tool or not;...it's that being
I'm in a Bank AML Compliance environment, I work in a locked down
environment and it takes an act of god to install software off the approved
list.

It was a 6 month effort just to add a PDF link checker.


 John:

I'm not sure if I mentioned this before (my apologies if I did). I'm sure
you're not looking for another tool, but it seems to me that a lot of
things you're trying to achieve can be done with WebWorks ePublisher PDF
XSL FO output. If you want to discuss offline, please let me know. Perhaps
I could set up a demo for you to test my theory. Rook coffee is accepted as
demo payment. ;-)

Nadine

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Re: Is there a way to get around the issue of a book not allowing the same file more than once?

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I'd tried that...I had unpredictable resultsI was getting crashes that
started when I implemented it and stopped when I removed them.

BTW...I do realize why what I want would would never work...How does the
same document address having different page numbers and section numbers if
I should try to gen a book with both instances of the same file.

Never mind...it was a tough week.



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Date:   06/12/2015 03:06 PM
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Instead of including it in the book, can you use it as as a text inset in
two different places, instead?
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  This probably isn't advisable, but it would make my life easier if FM11
  allowed the inclusion of the same file in more than one place in a book.

  Anyone accomplish something like this?

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Is there a way to get around the issue of a book not allowing the same file more than once?

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Hi, guys...

This probably isn't advisable, but it would make my life easier if FM11
allowed the inclusion of the same file in more than one place in a book.

Anyone accomplish something like this?

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Re: Sourcesafe

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I do similar, but once at end of day just before leaving for the night.

I have a Robocopy batch file that mirrors my working directory on C: to my
network drive that is backed up by IT every night.  I have a shortcut on my
desktop that I click, then lock the machine and go home.  It looks similar
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echo
***
 c:\temp\robocopy.log
robocopy c:\[source directory] \ h:[destination
directory]   /MIR /a-:R /log+:c:\temp\robocopy.log /nfl /ndl

--


This copies only the later version of the changed files and deletes the
removed files. This way I always have a mirror of my working directory and
a log of what was done.

This has saved my butt a number of times because since I know I have a
mirrored directory, I can try things on my working directory of files
knowing that if I don't get the expected results, I can always delete from
my C drive and download my backup to try again.

The time it takes varies with how many files I've changed...it could go
from 10 files to over 4,000 files, depending on what I've done since the
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HI,

It has been recommended to me, by my Manager, that I use Sourcesafe to
control archiving of all my Framemaker files. Sourcesafe is used by our
Software developer to archive his files.

Currently, I manually archive on a weekly basis by copying files from my
local C:\ drive to the company server.

Thoughts appreciated.

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Re: Adobe announces FrameMaker (2015 Release)

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Word Import Style Mapping

This is a biggee for me.

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Looking at the version comparison, the additions for unstructured
FrameMaker in English are:

- conditional table columns
- book-level conditional text
- web help custom skins
- auto-insert table continuation variables
- mini-TOCs

Still no wiki integration.

I'll be curious to see how well the conditional table columns work.
That seems like a major challenge.
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Re: Simplifying a FM12 document

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I do it the way Robert defines.

I have two template documents, with all the same tags by name, but the tags
are defined differently.

Depending on how I want the finished book to look, I import all the formats
from the applicable template document into the entire book.

Using a template document also makes it possible to determine the impact of
a para tag change before rolling it out to the entire book.

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One quick and easy way to do that is to have two files containing the
tags that are different. Use the *same* tag names but different
formats. Import the eBook tags before you generate an eBook, then
import the regular tags afterwards.

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:33 PM,  tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com wrote:
 2) I want to be able create a few special paragraph tags that would be
used
 only in the eBook output of the document. For example, I would have an
 eBody for eBook body text that, for the eBook, would replace all
 paragraphs tagged with the Body tag.

 Is there a way to do this relatively quickly or is it as tedious as I'm
 afraid that it could be?
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RE: remapping Frame formats

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Rick...if you could do this in Extendscript, you'd have a sale.

I'd even be OK with doing it one change at a time.

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Date:   05/26/2015 10:57 AM
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Hi Yves,

I have my FindChangeFormatsBatch FrameScript script that has been out for
awhile. Below is from the heading of the script. The cost is $80 and it
requires FrameScript. Please let me know if you have any questions or
comments. Thank you very much.

Rick

This script changes cross-references, paragraphs, tables, user
variables, characters, etc. from one format to another.
You can optionally delete the old format from the document's catalog.

The script requires a batch file containing four columns.
Column 1 lists the type of format to find:
  X for cross-reference
  P for paragraph
  T for table
  V for variable
  C for character format
  CO for condition format
  MP for master page
  M for marker type
  CL for color
  RF for ruling format

Column 2 lists the format to find, column 3 lists the format to change to,
and column 4 contains a Y if you want to delete the old format from the
document's catalog. If the format in column 3 does not exist in the
document,
the find format will be renamed to the change format.

The enclosed FindChangeFormatBatch.fm can be used as a batch file.

To simply delete a format from the catalog, put its format type in column
one, its name in column 2, and a Y in column 4. Leave column 3 blank.

Format names are case-sensitive.

The script can be run on a single document, book, or folder (and
subfolders).
The results of the script are recorded in a log which is saved in the same
folder as the book, document, or folder. It will have the same name as the
book or document, but with a .log extension. If you run it on a folder,
the log will be in that folder and be called FindChangeFormatsBatch.log.


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mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:41 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: remapping Frame formats

Hi group
I'm looking for a FrameMaker plugin or script to remap FrameMaker
formats: character formats, paragraph formats, table formats,
cross-reference formats...
I have used TemplateMapper in 2003, but I was wondering whether something
more recent is available somewhere, for example a (Frame)script which works
as follows would be nice:
1. List all the used formats in column A in a separate mapping table, for
example an Excel file.
2. In column B, the user fills in the name of the formats to which the old
formats should be renamed.
3. The user saves the mapping file and then applies this Excel file to
one or more FrameMaker books.


Any ideas?
Thanks
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Re: creating user guides in an agile environment

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I wrote in Agile several years ago while at EMC. I liked it, most of the
other writers hated it.

Yes, sometimes I had to rewrite in a later iteration, but that's pretty
much normal in any development environment.  What I liked was being able to
include document review at the end of each iteration so they could not
close the iteration unless they did their review.

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Date:   05/15/2015 01:40 PM
Subject:creating user guides in an agile environment
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All –

Is anyone writing software user guides for end users in an environment in
which the software is being developed following agile guidelines? If so,
are you writing portions of the user guide at each software iteration? How
do you handle major revisions to the software? That is, if you wrote a
section of the user guide on the deliverables produced in the first
iteration, then learned that the software you wrote about changed in the 4
th iteration, what did you do? How did that affect your timeline? Do you
find writing in iterations more beneficial than waiting until the software
is in a more finished state?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

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Re: Apply a page master style to a para format.

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Yeah...found it. Have mapped 4 different styles to corresponding master
pages...works well

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To: John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02, framers
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Date:   05/15/2015 03:18 PM
Subject:Re: Apply a page master style to a para format.



On 2015-May-15 1:05 PM, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:
  Hi, guys...FM 11 unstructured.

  Is there a way of defining that a specific Master Page be used when
  the
  first para style is a specific style?





Yes. It's described in the Help. Assign a master page to pages with
specified paragraph tags

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Apply a page master style to a para format.

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Hi, guys...FM 11 unstructured.

Is there a way of defining that a specific Master Page be used when the
first para style is a specific style?

I have pages that start with the style ChapterTitle. It is only used one in
a file. Every page that starts with that, I'd like to apply the master page
Custom  First to that page. Page two of that file reverts to Left/Right
model

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Re: Apply a page master style to a para format.

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Never mind...found it.

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Subject:Apply a page master style to a para format.


Hi, guys...FM 11 unstructured.

Is there a way of defining that a specific Master Page be used when the
first para style is a specific style?

I have pages that start with the style ChapterTitle. It is only used one in
a file. Every page that starts with that, I'd like to apply the master page
Custom  First to that page. Page two of that file reverts to Left/Right
model

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Re: Looking for examples of good landscape oriented user manuals

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Can you keep everything about your existing template except orientation?
Just change your mater page orientation landscape,  It might be easier to
get it through approval rather than creating a whole new templayt/style
structiure.

You might have to tweek any tyles that are based on absolute placement, but
I know speaking for myself, it would take all of an hour to reorirntate my
stuff.

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Date:   05/12/2015 07:21 AM
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I am working on a project to document a new machine that has a Windows 8.x
based user interface. All touch screen, swipe left-right...

Our current manuals have a pretty restrictive template in portrait
orientation; however, considering that the layout of all of the screens is
very horizontal, I'm thinking that a manual in landscape format (probably
spiral bound on the left when printed) might be a good way to present
instructions that would include lots of graphics and probably embedded
video (which I've done quite successfully in FM12).

Any ideas where I might find some good examples of user manuals done in
landscape, as well as supporting templates?





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Re: FM and Adobe Experience Manager

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Does it work?
Is it stable?
Is it an appropriate authoring environment for maybe 6-10 writers?
Anything that would make me question taking the recommendation to the next
step (recommending that my management let me explore it further)?

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Hi John...

I have played with AEM+FM .. not really used it in a working environment,
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FM and Adobe Experience Manager

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Hi, guys...looking for anyone who has successfully implemented a Framemaker
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How can I display Para Formats list

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Hi, guys...I'm doing some reformat-intensive work and I find myself
pressing F9 over and over to display and apply paragraph formats. When I
select the format, the list goes away.

Is there a way of detaching the list and have it stay open?

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RE: How can I display Para Formats list

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Excellent..

Perfect.

Thank you

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Date:   04/29/2015 11:18 AM
Subject:RE: How can I display Para Formats list



If you're using FrameMaker 12, then add the paragraph catalog to the pod.
Click Format  Paragraphs  Catalog. It will be automatically added to the
pod. Thereafter, if you want the catalog list to always stay open, right
click the pod and deselect Auto-Collapse Iconic Pods. When you are done,
click on the paragraph catalog pod to close it.

You may be able to follow the same process in other versions of FrameMaker
(9+).

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Hi, guys...I'm doing some reformat-intensive work and I find myself
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select the format, the list goes away.

Is there a way of detaching the list and have it stay open?

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RE: How can I display Para Formats list

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All that does is display a button that when pressed, drops down the list.
F9 does the same thing. I want the para list permanently displayed and
expanded.

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I keep mine turned on by having the Paragraph Formatting toolbar turned on.

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Hi, guys...I'm doing some reformat-intensive work and I find myself
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Is there a way of detaching the list and have it stay open?

Thanks

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RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

[john . x . posada]

Hi, David. I watched their video. They seem to stress linguistics and
usability, and measuring that stuff.

While those are secondary factors on my end, my priority is style, format,
content control consistency, and authoring speed. It's hard to explain, but
my stuff isn't to convince...my stuff is to show AML methodology and
compliance for use during AML model review.

I have one main output; PDF, with secondary output Word. Multiple delivery
isn't a requirement here.

Thanks anyway.

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I would give serious thought to Acrolinx, if you're facing consistency
issue as your content scales up and if you're going to bring in multiple
writers. It can also help other casual content authors (e.g., developer's
and tester's design and use case docs; marcomm) or give you a fast-editing
path to clean up such source prior to importation/reuse in FrameMaker. It's
NOT cheap, and it take a significant setup and routine maintenance as your
product lines evolve... but it's a joy to see working well! It basically
can eliminate any 'copyediting' roles throughout your organization.

And, no, I am not affiliatedf with them, other than as a fanboy who wants
MY compnay to adopt it! :)
David
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 Date: Thu, April 23, 2015 1:35 pm
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 Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
 document set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

 Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
 stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
 bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
 possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
 pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.


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