Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-26 Thread Reid Gray
Thanks Andy, I agree.  

If words stick to your gray matter, echo in your head like music, and if you 
can't help yourself from teasing them apart at their roots and stems you are 
probably in the right profession.  To be a writer you need to love words.  

Also note "endianness" came originally from literature ("Gulliver's Travels).  

Agreed. Writers use words to suit the lexicon of their audience.  If you are 
writing for USA Today, it's best not to use the vocabulary of the Harvard 
Business Review.  If you are writing a release note or a README, you wouldn't 
want the tone and vocabulary to be more in line with a low-level language 
programmer's guide.

BTW: Great thread.

Reid




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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!



I've enjoyed reading all the input on this thread, and I had a few more 
thoughts.

Unfortunately, the way Reid writes it below, it looks like anyone can have the 
writer role. I would've written:

4. Technical Writer who knows enough to understand the SME, learns about the 
audience and its lingo, distills all the essentials out of these to make an 
easy to absorb document, and knows the tools and formats well enough to do it 
all quickly.

In any job, I think people need their core skills but also an understanding and 
certain competency in the skills of those around them. To that extent, I'm sure 
engineers can and do write decent docs sometimes, but they're probably more 
efficient at their engineering tasks.

I'm pretty sure we all know this, but it is exactly this that is important to 
communicate in the case of this pointy-haired boss. Nor does the boss seem to 
understand how a good writer can save money and improve customer satisfaction. 
To be a good writer, you also have to understand where management is coming 
from...

BTW, I actually don't think it's productive for writers to use big words for 
the sake of using big words. Writers must use whatever words speak to their 
audience.

  Andy

akass at jaspersoft.com

> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:51:39 -0400
> From: "Reid Gray" 
> Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
>
> I think the list agrees that not just anybody can write a
> good manual.  And "No," writers cannot be just "anybody."
> They must be committed, they need to love language, and
> as Annie Dillard says "...you really need to like words...
> words such as 'transmogrify'" 
>
> Or, if you will extend the metaphor to IT, "endianess."
>
> The best writing happens as a collective effort with the
> writer at the center. So, for example, take manuals. To
> write a good manual, one needs:
> 1. Subject matter experts for authoritative content
> 2. Enthusiastic reviewers who know the audience and have
>  exposure to the subject matter
> 3. Editors who know the language
> 4. The technical writer
>
> Trying as a single individual to serve in roles 1 through
> 4 is possible, but the more 'eyes' you have scanning the
> pages the better the expected outcome.  This is especially
> true if you are writing complete books, manuals, and
> periodicals, from scratch.
>
> There is also an equally beneficial flip side to this postulate.
> If you find either "transmogrify" or "endianess" to be ugly,
> and if you think anybody in particular can plant a garden,
> repair an automobile, or write a technical manual, you might
> be management material.
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-26 Thread Richard Melanson
I also have enjoyed reading the thread I started and appreciate
everyone's input, it has helped me to keep a "clear head" regarding this
issue. 
Rick
PS: I am an Electrical Engineer who worked in Engineering, then in a
Product Support and Field Service position before becoming a Technical
Writer, so I guess I have been on both sides of this fence.  

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Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:25 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

I've enjoyed reading all the input on this thread, and I had a few more
thoughts.

Unfortunately, the way Reid writes it below, it looks like anyone can
have the writer role. I would've written:

4. Technical Writer who knows enough to understand the SME, learns about
the audience and its lingo, distills all the essentials out of these to
make an easy to absorb document, and knows the tools and formats well
enough to do it all quickly.

In any job, I think people need their core skills but also an
understanding and certain competency in the skills of those around them.
To that extent, I'm sure engineers can and do write decent docs
sometimes, but they're probably more efficient at their engineering
tasks.

I'm pretty sure we all know this, but it is exactly this that is
important to communicate in the case of this pointy-haired boss. Nor
does the boss seem to understand how a good writer can save money and
improve customer satisfaction. To be a good writer, you also have to
understand where management is coming from...

BTW, I actually don't think it's productive for writers to use big words
for the sake of using big words. Writers must use whatever words speak
to their audience.

  Andy

akass at jaspersoft.com

> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:51:39 -0400
> From: "Reid Gray" 
> Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
> 
> I think the list agrees that not just anybody can write a good manual.

> And "No," writers cannot be just "anybody."
> They must be committed, they need to love language, and as Annie 
> Dillard says "...you really need to like words...
> words such as 'transmogrify'"  
> 
> Or, if you will extend the metaphor to IT, "endianess."
> 
> The best writing happens as a collective effort with the writer at the

> center. So, for example, take manuals. To write a good manual, one 
> needs:
> 1. Subject matter experts for authoritative content 2. Enthusiastic 
> reviewers who know the audience and have  exposure to the subject 
> matter 3. Editors who know the language 4. The technical writer
> 
> Trying as a single individual to serve in roles 1 through
> 4 is possible, but the more 'eyes' you have scanning the pages the 
> better the expected outcome.  This is especially true if you are 
> writing complete books, manuals, and periodicals, from scratch.
> 
> There is also an equally beneficial flip side to this postulate.
> If you find either "transmogrify" or "endianess" to be ugly, and if 
> you think anybody in particular can plant a garden, repair an 
> automobile, or write a technical manual, you might be management 
> material.
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RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-26 Thread Reid Gray
Thanks Andy, I agree.  
 
If words stick to your gray matter, echo in your head like music, and if you 
can't help yourself from teasing them apart at their roots and stems you are 
probably in the right profession.  To be a writer you need to love words.  
 
Also note "endianness" came originally from literature ("Gulliver's Travels).  
 
Agreed. Writers use words to suit the lexicon of their audience.  If you are 
writing for USA Today, it's best not to use the vocabulary of the Harvard 
Business Review.  If you are writing a release note or a README, you wouldn't 
want the tone and vocabulary to be more in line with a low-level language 
programmer's guide.
 
BTW: Great thread.
 
Reid
 



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Sent: Fri 5/22/2009 4:25 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!



I've enjoyed reading all the input on this thread, and I had a few more 
thoughts.

Unfortunately, the way Reid writes it below, it looks like anyone can have the 
writer role. I would've written:

4. Technical Writer who knows enough to understand the SME, learns about the 
audience and its lingo, distills all the essentials out of these to make an 
easy to absorb document, and knows the tools and formats well enough to do it 
all quickly.

In any job, I think people need their core skills but also an understanding and 
certain competency in the skills of those around them. To that extent, I'm sure 
engineers can and do write decent docs sometimes, but they're probably more 
efficient at their engineering tasks.

I'm pretty sure we all know this, but it is exactly this that is important to 
communicate in the case of this pointy-haired boss. Nor does the boss seem to 
understand how a good writer can save money and improve customer satisfaction. 
To be a good writer, you also have to understand where management is coming 
from...

BTW, I actually don't think it's productive for writers to use big words for 
the sake of using big words. Writers must use whatever words speak to their 
audience.

  Andy

ak...@jaspersoft.com

> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:51:39 -0400
> From: "Reid Gray" 
> Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
>
> I think the list agrees that not just anybody can write a
> good manual.  And "No," writers cannot be just "anybody."
> They must be committed, they need to love language, and
> as Annie Dillard says "...you really need to like words...
> words such as 'transmogrify'" 
>
> Or, if you will extend the metaphor to IT, "endianess."
>
> The best writing happens as a collective effort with the
> writer at the center. So, for example, take manuals. To
> write a good manual, one needs:
> 1. Subject matter experts for authoritative content
> 2. Enthusiastic reviewers who know the audience and have
>  exposure to the subject matter
> 3. Editors who know the language
> 4. The technical writer
>
> Trying as a single individual to serve in roles 1 through
> 4 is possible, but the more 'eyes' you have scanning the
> pages the better the expected outcome.  This is especially
> true if you are writing complete books, manuals, and
> periodicals, from scratch.
>
> There is also an equally beneficial flip side to this postulate.
> If you find either "transmogrify" or "endianess" to be ugly,
> and if you think anybody in particular can plant a garden,
> repair an automobile, or write a technical manual, you might
> be management material.
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RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-26 Thread Richard Melanson
I also have enjoyed reading the thread I started and appreciate
everyone's input, it has helped me to keep a "clear head" regarding this
issue. 
Rick
PS: I am an Electrical Engineer who worked in Engineering, then in a
Product Support and Field Service position before becoming a Technical
Writer, so I guess I have been on both sides of this fence.  

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Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:25 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

I've enjoyed reading all the input on this thread, and I had a few more
thoughts.

Unfortunately, the way Reid writes it below, it looks like anyone can
have the writer role. I would've written:

4. Technical Writer who knows enough to understand the SME, learns about
the audience and its lingo, distills all the essentials out of these to
make an easy to absorb document, and knows the tools and formats well
enough to do it all quickly.

In any job, I think people need their core skills but also an
understanding and certain competency in the skills of those around them.
To that extent, I'm sure engineers can and do write decent docs
sometimes, but they're probably more efficient at their engineering
tasks.

I'm pretty sure we all know this, but it is exactly this that is
important to communicate in the case of this pointy-haired boss. Nor
does the boss seem to understand how a good writer can save money and
improve customer satisfaction. To be a good writer, you also have to
understand where management is coming from...

BTW, I actually don't think it's productive for writers to use big words
for the sake of using big words. Writers must use whatever words speak
to their audience.

  Andy

ak...@jaspersoft.com

> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:51:39 -0400
> From: "Reid Gray" 
> Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
> 
> I think the list agrees that not just anybody can write a good manual.

> And "No," writers cannot be just "anybody."
> They must be committed, they need to love language, and as Annie 
> Dillard says "...you really need to like words...
> words such as 'transmogrify'"  
> 
> Or, if you will extend the metaphor to IT, "endianess."
> 
> The best writing happens as a collective effort with the writer at the

> center. So, for example, take manuals. To write a good manual, one 
> needs:
> 1. Subject matter experts for authoritative content 2. Enthusiastic 
> reviewers who know the audience and have  exposure to the subject 
> matter 3. Editors who know the language 4. The technical writer
> 
> Trying as a single individual to serve in roles 1 through
> 4 is possible, but the more 'eyes' you have scanning the pages the 
> better the expected outcome.  This is especially true if you are 
> writing complete books, manuals, and periodicals, from scratch.
> 
> There is also an equally beneficial flip side to this postulate.
> If you find either "transmogrify" or "endianess" to be ugly, and if 
> you think anybody in particular can plant a garden, repair an 
> automobile, or write a technical manual, you might be management 
> material.
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RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-25 Thread Andy Kass
I've enjoyed reading all the input on this thread, and I had a few more 
thoughts.

Unfortunately, the way Reid writes it below, it looks like anyone can have the 
writer role. I would've written:

4. Technical Writer who knows enough to understand the SME, learns about the 
audience and its lingo, distills all the essentials out of these to make an 
easy to absorb document, and knows the tools and formats well enough to do it 
all quickly.

In any job, I think people need their core skills but also an understanding and 
certain competency in the skills of those around them. To that extent, I'm sure 
engineers can and do write decent docs sometimes, but they're probably more 
efficient at their engineering tasks.

I'm pretty sure we all know this, but it is exactly this that is important to 
communicate in the case of this pointy-haired boss. Nor does the boss seem to 
understand how a good writer can save money and improve customer satisfaction. 
To be a good writer, you also have to understand where management is coming 
from...

BTW, I actually don't think it's productive for writers to use big words for 
the sake of using big words. Writers must use whatever words speak to their 
audience.

  Andy

ak...@jaspersoft.com

> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:51:39 -0400
> From: "Reid Gray" 
> Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
> 
> I think the list agrees that not just anybody can write a
> good manual.  And "No," writers cannot be just "anybody."
> They must be committed, they need to love language, and
> as Annie Dillard says "...you really need to like words...
> words such as 'transmogrify'"  
> 
> Or, if you will extend the metaphor to IT, "endianess."
> 
> The best writing happens as a collective effort with the
> writer at the center. So, for example, take manuals. To
> write a good manual, one needs:
> 1. Subject matter experts for authoritative content
> 2. Enthusiastic reviewers who know the audience and have
>  exposure to the subject matter
> 3. Editors who know the language
> 4. The technical writer
> 
> Trying as a single individual to serve in roles 1 through
> 4 is possible, but the more 'eyes' you have scanning the
> pages the better the expected outcome.  This is especially
> true if you are writing complete books, manuals, and
> periodicals, from scratch.
> 
> There is also an equally beneficial flip side to this postulate.
> If you find either "transmogrify" or "endianess" to be ugly,
> and if you think anybody in particular can plant a garden,
> repair an automobile, or write a technical manual, you might
> be management material.
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RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-25 Thread Gerald Robertson

The wikipedia definition can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness

 

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Big and Little Endians [was: Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual!]

2009-05-22 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Now I finally understand and, consequently revoke my warning words
against using 'endianess' in a manual. :D

What? I understand it, why shouldn't everyone else? :-/

B??var
-- Enlightened on a Friday

2009/5/22 Jeremy H. Griffith :
> On Fri, 22 May 2009 13:36:11 +, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
>  wrote:
>
>>Regarding the "endianess", I had a problem some 13 years ago with some
>>UNIX software that was supposed to work on Linux. It did not. I sent a
>>query to an Icelandic guy on the "Basic Linux Training" list I
>>subscribed to and he came up with a solution. Then he expained to me
>>that there was a difference between Linux an UNIX that one used big
>>endian and the other little endian in the same code of software.
>
> In current computer systems, there are two kinds of
> "endianess", called "LSB (Least Significant Byte)
> first" and "MSB (Most Significant Byte) first".
> For any given system, what determines this is not
> the operating system (Linux, Windows, etc.), it's
> the processor (CPU). ?All Intel CPUs are LSB first;
> others, like Sun SPARC and Motorola 68K, are MSB
> first. ?So Linux on a Sun SPARC would be MSB first,
> but on an Intel box it would be LSB first.
>
> Technically, the difference is indeed *byte* order,
> not *bit* order (which is constant). ?Suppose you
> have a hex number 0xABCD. ?The most significant
> byte is 0xAB; the least significant byte is 0xCD.
> Now imagine that you store this number in memory
> at address 0. ?;-) ?You will get:
>
> Location ?SPARC ?Intel
>  ?0xAB ? 0xCD
> 0001 ?0xCD ? 0xAB
>
> Well-designed programs where portability matters
> will work with *either* CPU. ?They do this by not
> caring what the storage order in memory is, and
> always accessing multibyte numbers through a set
> of functions that work regardless of byte order.
> For example, Mif2Go was originally developed on
> a Sun SPARC system, then ported to Windows very
> easily because it followed those design rules.
>
> There's actually a third flavor, but it was used
> only on the DEC PDP-11. ?Since the last of those
> is probably in the Smithsonian, you won't see it
> in current software. ?It is the same as Intel
> for two-byte numbers (shorts) but switches the
> byte pairs for 4-byte numbers (longs). ?So the
> number 0x12345678 is 0x34, 0x12, 0x78, 0x56.
>
> Endianness also affects Unicode, in the UTF-16
> and UTF-32 encodings of it, but *not* in UTF-8.
> It is the reason for the UTF-16 BOM (Byte Order
> Mark), U+FEFF, ?In UTF-16 Big-endian (MSB first),
> the bytes are 0xFE 0xFF. ?In UTF-16 Little-endian
> (LSB first), they are 0xFF 0xFE. ?UTF-32 adds two
> zero bytes, before it for Big and after for Little.
>
> The Unicode BOM may also be used as an encoding
> signature, but I digress... ? ;-) ?Good thing
> it's Friday, eh?
>
> HTH!
>
> -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
> ? ?http://www.omsys.com/
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Big and Little Endians [was: Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual!]

2009-05-22 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Wow! What an education for a Friday ;>)

I remember playing with DEC PDP-11's when I was a kid visiting my
father's office. I used to play some pseudo-D&D command line game and
fool around with some graphics software that would draw overlapping
circles & fill them with a limited palette of colours (sort of early
Venn diagrams). Good times

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Griffith
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:14 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Big and Little Endians [was: Re: Procedure How to Write a
Manual!]

On Fri, 22 May 2009 13:36:11 +, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 wrote:

>Regarding the "endianess", I had a problem some 13 years ago with some 
>UNIX software that was supposed to work on Linux. It did not. I sent a 
>query to an Icelandic guy on the "Basic Linux Training" list I 
>subscribed to and he came up with a solution. Then he expained to me 
>that there was a difference between Linux an UNIX that one used big 
>endian and the other little endian in the same code of software.

In current computer systems, there are two kinds of "endianess", called
"LSB (Least Significant Byte) first" and "MSB (Most Significant Byte)
first".
For any given system, what determines this is not the operating system
(Linux, Windows, etc.), it's the processor (CPU).  All Intel CPUs are
LSB first; others, like Sun SPARC and Motorola 68K, are MSB first.  So
Linux on a Sun SPARC would be MSB first, but on an Intel box it would be
LSB first.

Technically, the difference is indeed *byte* order, not *bit* order
(which is constant).  Suppose you have a hex number 0xABCD.  The most
significant byte is 0xAB; the least significant byte is 0xCD.
Now imagine that you store this number in memory at address 0.  ;-)  You
will get:

Location  SPARC  Intel
  0xAB   0xCD
0001  0xCD   0xAB

Well-designed programs where portability matters will work with *either*
CPU.  They do this by not caring what the storage order in memory is,
and always accessing multibyte numbers through a set of functions that
work regardless of byte order.
For example, Mif2Go was originally developed on a Sun SPARC system, then
ported to Windows very easily because it followed those design rules.

There's actually a third flavor, but it was used only on the DEC PDP-11.
Since the last of those is probably in the Smithsonian, you won't see it
in current software.  It is the same as Intel for two-byte numbers
(shorts) but switches the byte pairs for 4-byte numbers (longs).  So the
number 0x12345678 is 0x34, 0x12, 0x78, 0x56.

Endianness also affects Unicode, in the UTF-16 and UTF-32 encodings of
it, but *not* in UTF-8.
It is the reason for the UTF-16 BOM (Byte Order Mark), U+FEFF,  In
UTF-16 Big-endian (MSB first), the bytes are 0xFE 0xFF.  In UTF-16
Little-endian (LSB first), they are 0xFF 0xFE.  UTF-32 adds two zero
bytes, before it for Big and after for Little. 

The Unicode BOM may also be used as an encoding
signature, but I digress...   ;-)  Good thing
it's Friday, eh?

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/
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Re: Big and Little Endians [was: Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual!]

2009-05-22 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Now I finally understand and, consequently revoke my warning words
against using 'endianess' in a manual. :D

What? I understand it, why shouldn't everyone else? :-/

Böðvar
-- Enlightened on a Friday

2009/5/22 Jeremy H. Griffith :
> On Fri, 22 May 2009 13:36:11 +, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
>  wrote:
>
>>Regarding the "endianess", I had a problem some 13 years ago with some
>>UNIX software that was supposed to work on Linux. It did not. I sent a
>>query to an Icelandic guy on the "Basic Linux Training" list I
>>subscribed to and he came up with a solution. Then he expained to me
>>that there was a difference between Linux an UNIX that one used big
>>endian and the other little endian in the same code of software.
>
> In current computer systems, there are two kinds of
> "endianess", called "LSB (Least Significant Byte)
> first" and "MSB (Most Significant Byte) first".
> For any given system, what determines this is not
> the operating system (Linux, Windows, etc.), it's
> the processor (CPU).  All Intel CPUs are LSB first;
> others, like Sun SPARC and Motorola 68K, are MSB
> first.  So Linux on a Sun SPARC would be MSB first,
> but on an Intel box it would be LSB first.
>
> Technically, the difference is indeed *byte* order,
> not *bit* order (which is constant).  Suppose you
> have a hex number 0xABCD.  The most significant
> byte is 0xAB; the least significant byte is 0xCD.
> Now imagine that you store this number in memory
> at address 0.  ;-)  You will get:
>
> Location  SPARC  Intel
>   0xAB   0xCD
> 0001  0xCD   0xAB
>
> Well-designed programs where portability matters
> will work with *either* CPU.  They do this by not
> caring what the storage order in memory is, and
> always accessing multibyte numbers through a set
> of functions that work regardless of byte order.
> For example, Mif2Go was originally developed on
> a Sun SPARC system, then ported to Windows very
> easily because it followed those design rules.
>
> There's actually a third flavor, but it was used
> only on the DEC PDP-11.  Since the last of those
> is probably in the Smithsonian, you won't see it
> in current software.  It is the same as Intel
> for two-byte numbers (shorts) but switches the
> byte pairs for 4-byte numbers (longs).  So the
> number 0x12345678 is 0x34, 0x12, 0x78, 0x56.
>
> Endianness also affects Unicode, in the UTF-16
> and UTF-32 encodings of it, but *not* in UTF-8.
> It is the reason for the UTF-16 BOM (Byte Order
> Mark), U+FEFF,  In UTF-16 Big-endian (MSB first),
> the bytes are 0xFE 0xFF.  In UTF-16 Little-endian
> (LSB first), they are 0xFF 0xFE.  UTF-32 adds two
> zero bytes, before it for Big and after for Little.
>
> The Unicode BOM may also be used as an encoding
> signature, but I digress...   ;-)  Good thing
> it's Friday, eh?
>
> HTH!
>
> -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
>    http://www.omsys.com/
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-22 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
I agree that the writer must love the language, but he/she must
refrain from using "words such as 'transmogrify'" unless there is a
very good reason for it _and_ you have the word explained in the
"Terms and Definitions" section. ;-)
Have KISS in mind - as much as practicable, when writing technical manuals.

Regarding the "endianess", I had a problem some 13 years ago with some
UNIX software that was supposed to work on Linux. It did not. I sent a
query to an Icelandic guy on the "Basic Linux Training" list I
subscribed to and he came up with a solution. Then he expained to me
that there was a difference between Linux an UNIX that one used big
endian and the other little endian in the same code of software. The
first time I saw the term(s) I thought this must be a misspelling,
knowing that programmers often have weird kind of humor. What would it
be they referred to as Indians?

To this day I have not had any explanation understandable to me what
the real difference is. Neither have i had any problems with little or
big endians (or any sort of Indians) since. ;-)

Bodvar

2009/5/20 Reid Gray :
> I think the list agrees that not just anybody can write a good manual. ?And 
> "No," writers cannot be just "anybody." ?They must be committed, they need to 
> love language, and as Annie Dillard says "...you really need to like 
> words...words such as 'transmogrify'"
>
> Or, if you will extend the metaphor to IT, "endianess."
>
> The best writing happens as a collective effort with the writer at the 
> center. So, for example, take manuals. To write a good manual, one needs:
> 1. Subject matter experts for authoritative content
> 2. Enthusiastic reviewers who know the audience and have exposure to the 
> subject matter
> 3. Editors who know the language
> 4. The technical writer
>
> Trying as a single individual to serve in roles 1 through 4 is possible, but 
> the more 'eyes' you have scanning the pages the better the expected outcome. 
> ?This is especially true if you are writing complete books, manuals, and 
> periodicals, from scratch.
>
> There is also an equally beneficial flip side to this postulate. If you find 
> either "transmogrify" or "endianess" to be ugly, and if you think anybody in 
> particular can plant a garden, repair an automobile, or write a technical 
> manual, you might be management material.
>
> ____
>
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Richard Melanson
> Sent: Tue 5/19/2009 9:21 AM
> To: Robert Shelton; Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> Shelton
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:32 PM
> To: Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon
>> Burton
>>
>> This is easy. 14 steps:
>>
>> 1. Identify the audience
>> 2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user
>> guides, and so on) 3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do 4.
>> Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks 5.
>> Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help, others)
>> 6. Create a plan that layout all this information 7. Assign time
>> estimates to the plan 8. Decide what can be cut due to time
>> limitations 9.
>> Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product 10.
>> Review by others 11. Make the review changes 12.
>> Build "gold" candidates 13. Deliver the finals 14. Archive the finals,
>
>> including all planning information
>>
>> Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain
>> knowledge in our field. But these are the steps.
>
> I think you skipped something important:
>
> 1. Hire a tech writer.
>
> Bob
> "Let what comes, come,
> Let what goes, go,
> Find out what remains."
> Sri Ramana Maharshi
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-22 Thread Andy Kass
I've enjoyed reading all the input on this thread, and I had a few more 
thoughts.

Unfortunately, the way Reid writes it below, it looks like anyone can have the 
writer role. I would've written:

4. Technical Writer who knows enough to understand the SME, learns about the 
audience and its lingo, distills all the essentials out of these to make an 
easy to absorb document, and knows the tools and formats well enough to do it 
all quickly.

In any job, I think people need their core skills but also an understanding and 
certain competency in the skills of those around them. To that extent, I'm sure 
engineers can and do write decent docs sometimes, but they're probably more 
efficient at their engineering tasks.

I'm pretty sure we all know this, but it is exactly this that is important to 
communicate in the case of this pointy-haired boss. Nor does the boss seem to 
understand how a good writer can save money and improve customer satisfaction. 
To be a good writer, you also have to understand where management is coming 
from...

BTW, I actually don't think it's productive for writers to use big words for 
the sake of using big words. Writers must use whatever words speak to their 
audience.

  Andy

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> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:51:39 -0400
> From: "Reid Gray" 
> Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
> 
> I think the list agrees that not just anybody can write a
> good manual.  And "No," writers cannot be just "anybody."
> They must be committed, they need to love language, and
> as Annie Dillard says "...you really need to like words...
> words such as 'transmogrify'"  
> 
> Or, if you will extend the metaphor to IT, "endianess."
> 
> The best writing happens as a collective effort with the
> writer at the center. So, for example, take manuals. To
> write a good manual, one needs:
> 1. Subject matter experts for authoritative content
> 2. Enthusiastic reviewers who know the audience and have
>  exposure to the subject matter
> 3. Editors who know the language
> 4. The technical writer
> 
> Trying as a single individual to serve in roles 1 through
> 4 is possible, but the more 'eyes' you have scanning the
> pages the better the expected outcome.  This is especially
> true if you are writing complete books, manuals, and
> periodicals, from scratch.
> 
> There is also an equally beneficial flip side to this postulate.
> If you find either "transmogrify" or "endianess" to be ugly,
> and if you think anybody in particular can plant a garden,
> repair an automobile, or write a technical manual, you might
> be management material.


RE: Big and Little Endians [was: Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual!]

2009-05-22 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Wow! What an education for a Friday ;>)

I remember playing with DEC PDP-11's when I was a kid visiting my
father's office. I used to play some pseudo-D&D command line game and
fool around with some graphics software that would draw overlapping
circles & fill them with a limited palette of colours (sort of early
Venn diagrams). Good times

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H.
Griffith
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:14 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Big and Little Endians [was: Re: Procedure How to Write a
Manual!]

On Fri, 22 May 2009 13:36:11 +, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 wrote:

>Regarding the "endianess", I had a problem some 13 years ago with some 
>UNIX software that was supposed to work on Linux. It did not. I sent a 
>query to an Icelandic guy on the "Basic Linux Training" list I 
>subscribed to and he came up with a solution. Then he expained to me 
>that there was a difference between Linux an UNIX that one used big 
>endian and the other little endian in the same code of software.

In current computer systems, there are two kinds of "endianess", called
"LSB (Least Significant Byte) first" and "MSB (Most Significant Byte)
first".
For any given system, what determines this is not the operating system
(Linux, Windows, etc.), it's the processor (CPU).  All Intel CPUs are
LSB first; others, like Sun SPARC and Motorola 68K, are MSB first.  So
Linux on a Sun SPARC would be MSB first, but on an Intel box it would be
LSB first.

Technically, the difference is indeed *byte* order, not *bit* order
(which is constant).  Suppose you have a hex number 0xABCD.  The most
significant byte is 0xAB; the least significant byte is 0xCD.
Now imagine that you store this number in memory at address 0.  ;-)  You
will get:

Location  SPARC  Intel
  0xAB   0xCD
0001  0xCD   0xAB

Well-designed programs where portability matters will work with *either*
CPU.  They do this by not caring what the storage order in memory is,
and always accessing multibyte numbers through a set of functions that
work regardless of byte order.
For example, Mif2Go was originally developed on a Sun SPARC system, then
ported to Windows very easily because it followed those design rules.

There's actually a third flavor, but it was used only on the DEC PDP-11.
Since the last of those is probably in the Smithsonian, you won't see it
in current software.  It is the same as Intel for two-byte numbers
(shorts) but switches the byte pairs for 4-byte numbers (longs).  So the
number 0x12345678 is 0x34, 0x12, 0x78, 0x56.

Endianness also affects Unicode, in the UTF-16 and UTF-32 encodings of
it, but *not* in UTF-8.
It is the reason for the UTF-16 BOM (Byte Order Mark), U+FEFF,  In
UTF-16 Big-endian (MSB first), the bytes are 0xFE 0xFF.  In UTF-16
Little-endian (LSB first), they are 0xFF 0xFE.  UTF-32 adds two zero
bytes, before it for Big and after for Little. 

The Unicode BOM may also be used as an encoding
signature, but I digress...   ;-)  Good thing
it's Friday, eh?

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-22 Thread Gerald Robertson

The wikipedia definition can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness



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Big and Little Endians [was: Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual!]

2009-05-22 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 22 May 2009 13:36:11 +, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson 
 wrote:

>Regarding the "endianess", I had a problem some 13 years ago with some
>UNIX software that was supposed to work on Linux. It did not. I sent a
>query to an Icelandic guy on the "Basic Linux Training" list I
>subscribed to and he came up with a solution. Then he expained to me
>that there was a difference between Linux an UNIX that one used big
>endian and the other little endian in the same code of software.

In current computer systems, there are two kinds of
"endianess", called "LSB (Least Significant Byte)
first" and "MSB (Most Significant Byte) first".
For any given system, what determines this is not
the operating system (Linux, Windows, etc.), it's
the processor (CPU).  All Intel CPUs are LSB first;
others, like Sun SPARC and Motorola 68K, are MSB
first.  So Linux on a Sun SPARC would be MSB first,
but on an Intel box it would be LSB first.

Technically, the difference is indeed *byte* order,
not *bit* order (which is constant).  Suppose you
have a hex number 0xABCD.  The most significant
byte is 0xAB; the least significant byte is 0xCD.
Now imagine that you store this number in memory
at address 0.  ;-)  You will get:

Location  SPARC  Intel
  0xAB   0xCD
0001  0xCD   0xAB

Well-designed programs where portability matters
will work with *either* CPU.  They do this by not
caring what the storage order in memory is, and
always accessing multibyte numbers through a set
of functions that work regardless of byte order.
For example, Mif2Go was originally developed on
a Sun SPARC system, then ported to Windows very
easily because it followed those design rules.

There's actually a third flavor, but it was used
only on the DEC PDP-11.  Since the last of those
is probably in the Smithsonian, you won't see it
in current software.  It is the same as Intel
for two-byte numbers (shorts) but switches the
byte pairs for 4-byte numbers (longs).  So the
number 0x12345678 is 0x34, 0x12, 0x78, 0x56.

Endianness also affects Unicode, in the UTF-16
and UTF-32 encodings of it, but *not* in UTF-8.
It is the reason for the UTF-16 BOM (Byte Order
Mark), U+FEFF,  In UTF-16 Big-endian (MSB first),
the bytes are 0xFE 0xFF.  In UTF-16 Little-endian
(LSB first), they are 0xFF 0xFE.  UTF-32 adds two 
zero bytes, before it for Big and after for Little. 

The Unicode BOM may also be used as an encoding
signature, but I digress...   ;-)  Good thing
it's Friday, eh?

HTH!

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http://www.omsys.com/
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Big and Little Endians [was: Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual!]

2009-05-22 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 22 May 2009 13:36:11 +, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson 
 wrote:

>Regarding the "endianess", I had a problem some 13 years ago with some
>UNIX software that was supposed to work on Linux. It did not. I sent a
>query to an Icelandic guy on the "Basic Linux Training" list I
>subscribed to and he came up with a solution. Then he expained to me
>that there was a difference between Linux an UNIX that one used big
>endian and the other little endian in the same code of software.

In current computer systems, there are two kinds of
"endianess", called "LSB (Least Significant Byte)
first" and "MSB (Most Significant Byte) first".
For any given system, what determines this is not
the operating system (Linux, Windows, etc.), it's
the processor (CPU).  All Intel CPUs are LSB first;
others, like Sun SPARC and Motorola 68K, are MSB
first.  So Linux on a Sun SPARC would be MSB first,
but on an Intel box it would be LSB first.

Technically, the difference is indeed *byte* order,
not *bit* order (which is constant).  Suppose you
have a hex number 0xABCD.  The most significant
byte is 0xAB; the least significant byte is 0xCD.
Now imagine that you store this number in memory
at address 0.  ;-)  You will get:

Location  SPARC  Intel
  0xAB   0xCD
0001  0xCD   0xAB

Well-designed programs where portability matters
will work with *either* CPU.  They do this by not
caring what the storage order in memory is, and
always accessing multibyte numbers through a set
of functions that work regardless of byte order.
For example, Mif2Go was originally developed on
a Sun SPARC system, then ported to Windows very
easily because it followed those design rules.

There's actually a third flavor, but it was used
only on the DEC PDP-11.  Since the last of those
is probably in the Smithsonian, you won't see it
in current software.  It is the same as Intel
for two-byte numbers (shorts) but switches the
byte pairs for 4-byte numbers (longs).  So the
number 0x12345678 is 0x34, 0x12, 0x78, 0x56.

Endianness also affects Unicode, in the UTF-16
and UTF-32 encodings of it, but *not* in UTF-8.
It is the reason for the UTF-16 BOM (Byte Order
Mark), U+FEFF,  In UTF-16 Big-endian (MSB first),
the bytes are 0xFE 0xFF.  In UTF-16 Little-endian
(LSB first), they are 0xFF 0xFE.  UTF-32 adds two 
zero bytes, before it for Big and after for Little. 

The Unicode BOM may also be used as an encoding
signature, but I digress...   ;-)  Good thing
it's Friday, eh?

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/


Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-22 Thread Peter Gold
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson  
wrote:
> I agree that the writer must love the language, but he/she must
> refrain from using "words such as 'transmogrify'" unless there is a
> very good reason for it _and_ you have the word explained in the
> "Terms and Definitions" section. ;-)
> Have KISS in mind - as much as practicable, when writing technical manuals.
>
> Regarding the "endianess", I had a problem some 13 years ago with some
> UNIX software that was supposed to work on Linux. It did not. I sent a
> query to an Icelandic guy on the "Basic Linux Training" list I
> subscribed to and he came up with a solution. Then he expained to me
> that there was a difference between Linux an UNIX that one used big
> endian and the other little endian in the same code of software. The
> first time I saw the term(s) I thought this must be a misspelling,
> knowing that programmers often have weird kind of humor. What would it
> be they referred to as Indians?
>
> To this day I have not had any explanation understandable to me what
> the real difference is. Neither have i had any problems with little or
> big endians (or any sort of Indians) since. ;-)
>
> Bodvar
I also ran into "endian" while documenting a UNIX application. A
subject-matter expert (SME) patiently explained it to me, though my
impression at the time was that he was a little uncertain. Perhaps the
uncertainty was about the explanation itself, not about his grasp of
the concept.

His explanation was simply that some processor chips interpret binary
code (ones and zeroes) from the "Big end" and others "Little end." So
a binary number that appears like 1000 to one chip would appear as
0001 to the other. I forget whether the big end is on the left or the
right.

While it made enough sense to me to move on with my project, the whole
endianness issue came up in the first place because he introduced it
in explaining communication protocols. I was trying to understand why
an illustration of two protocols communicating between computers
didn't seem correct. It used two parallel lines; one for TCP/IP, and
the other for another protocol. I was supposed to add a third protocol
to the illustration, but a third parallel line didn't /quite seem
proper.

After a bunch of interviews with different SMEs, I was able to dig out
the key: a particular  protocol is indicated by code that precedes a
packet of information, and usually also is appended to the packet. The
codes identify the protocol, so the packet contents are processed
correctly. All the packets move on the same network channel; each
protocol is identified by different code around the packets. I
corrected the illustration to indicate one communication line between
the computers; sets of identifiers, like "xpacketx ypackety zpacketz,"
indicated the x, y, and z protocols moving along the single line.

In addition, if you haven't already, search Google for endian.

Regards,

Peter
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-22 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
Ah ... the old NUXI problem. :)


> I also ran into "endian" while documenting a UNIX application. A
> subject-matter expert (SME) patiently explained it to me, though my
> impression at the time was that he was a little uncertain. Perhaps the
> uncertainty was about the explanation itself, not about his grasp of
> the concept.

> His explanation was simply that some processor chips interpret binary
> code (ones and zeroes) from the "Big end" and others "Little end." So
> a binary number that appears like 1000 to one chip would appear as
> 0001 to the other. I forget whether the big end is on the left or the
> right.


Uh ... if you are showing a binary number above, this is not quite
right. The bits *within* the byte do not change their order in the two
common ENDIAN types. It is the *order* of the bytes within memory that
the processor accesses.

And, depending on whether you are accessing the memory in 16 bit words
or 32 bit words (and presumably nowadays, in 64 bit words) the outcome
is different.

Two final comments:

1. In my documents, I call it "byte order" rather than endianness. Much
simpler and cleaner. KISS applies!

2. The term comes from Gulliver's Travels in Lilliput. The two countries
could not agree on which "end" of the egg to crack first - the big or
the little. Hence two camps ... same as in the computing world! :)

Z


RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-22 Thread Syed.Hosain
Ah ... the old NUXI problem. :)


> I also ran into "endian" while documenting a UNIX application. A
> subject-matter expert (SME) patiently explained it to me, though my
> impression at the time was that he was a little uncertain. Perhaps the
> uncertainty was about the explanation itself, not about his grasp of
> the concept.

> His explanation was simply that some processor chips interpret binary
> code (ones and zeroes) from the "Big end" and others "Little end." So
> a binary number that appears like 1000 to one chip would appear as
> 0001 to the other. I forget whether the big end is on the left or the
> right.


Uh ... if you are showing a binary number above, this is not quite
right. The bits *within* the byte do not change their order in the two
common ENDIAN types. It is the *order* of the bytes within memory that
the processor accesses.

And, depending on whether you are accessing the memory in 16 bit words
or 32 bit words (and presumably nowadays, in 64 bit words) the outcome
is different.

Two final comments:

1. In my documents, I call it "byte order" rather than endianness. Much
simpler and cleaner. KISS applies!

2. The term comes from Gulliver's Travels in Lilliput. The two countries
could not agree on which "end" of the egg to crack first - the big or
the little. Hence two camps ... same as in the computing world! :)

Z
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Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-22 Thread Peter Gold
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson  wrote:
> I agree that the writer must love the language, but he/she must
> refrain from using "words such as 'transmogrify'" unless there is a
> very good reason for it _and_ you have the word explained in the
> "Terms and Definitions" section. ;-)
> Have KISS in mind - as much as practicable, when writing technical manuals.
>
> Regarding the "endianess", I had a problem some 13 years ago with some
> UNIX software that was supposed to work on Linux. It did not. I sent a
> query to an Icelandic guy on the "Basic Linux Training" list I
> subscribed to and he came up with a solution. Then he expained to me
> that there was a difference between Linux an UNIX that one used big
> endian and the other little endian in the same code of software. The
> first time I saw the term(s) I thought this must be a misspelling,
> knowing that programmers often have weird kind of humor. What would it
> be they referred to as Indians?
>
> To this day I have not had any explanation understandable to me what
> the real difference is. Neither have i had any problems with little or
> big endians (or any sort of Indians) since. ;-)
>
> Bodvar
I also ran into "endian" while documenting a UNIX application. A
subject-matter expert (SME) patiently explained it to me, though my
impression at the time was that he was a little uncertain. Perhaps the
uncertainty was about the explanation itself, not about his grasp of
the concept.

His explanation was simply that some processor chips interpret binary
code (ones and zeroes) from the "Big end" and others "Little end." So
a binary number that appears like 1000 to one chip would appear as
0001 to the other. I forget whether the big end is on the left or the
right.

While it made enough sense to me to move on with my project, the whole
endianness issue came up in the first place because he introduced it
in explaining communication protocols. I was trying to understand why
an illustration of two protocols communicating between computers
didn't seem correct. It used two parallel lines; one for TCP/IP, and
the other for another protocol. I was supposed to add a third protocol
to the illustration, but a third parallel line didn't /quite seem
proper.

After a bunch of interviews with different SMEs, I was able to dig out
the key: a particular  protocol is indicated by code that precedes a
packet of information, and usually also is appended to the packet. The
codes identify the protocol, so the packet contents are processed
correctly. All the packets move on the same network channel; each
protocol is identified by different code around the packets. I
corrected the illustration to indicate one communication line between
the computers; sets of identifiers, like "xpacketx ypackety zpacketz,"
indicated the x, y, and z protocols moving along the single line.

In addition, if you haven't already, search Google for endian.

Regards,

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Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-22 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
I agree that the writer must love the language, but he/she must
refrain from using "words such as 'transmogrify'" unless there is a
very good reason for it _and_ you have the word explained in the
"Terms and Definitions" section. ;-)
Have KISS in mind - as much as practicable, when writing technical manuals.

Regarding the "endianess", I had a problem some 13 years ago with some
UNIX software that was supposed to work on Linux. It did not. I sent a
query to an Icelandic guy on the "Basic Linux Training" list I
subscribed to and he came up with a solution. Then he expained to me
that there was a difference between Linux an UNIX that one used big
endian and the other little endian in the same code of software. The
first time I saw the term(s) I thought this must be a misspelling,
knowing that programmers often have weird kind of humor. What would it
be they referred to as Indians?

To this day I have not had any explanation understandable to me what
the real difference is. Neither have i had any problems with little or
big endians (or any sort of Indians) since. ;-)

Bodvar

2009/5/20 Reid Gray :
> I think the list agrees that not just anybody can write a good manual.  And 
> "No," writers cannot be just "anybody."  They must be committed, they need to 
> love language, and as Annie Dillard says "...you really need to like 
> words...words such as 'transmogrify'"
>
> Or, if you will extend the metaphor to IT, "endianess."
>
> The best writing happens as a collective effort with the writer at the 
> center. So, for example, take manuals. To write a good manual, one needs:
> 1. Subject matter experts for authoritative content
> 2. Enthusiastic reviewers who know the audience and have exposure to the 
> subject matter
> 3. Editors who know the language
> 4. The technical writer
>
> Trying as a single individual to serve in roles 1 through 4 is possible, but 
> the more 'eyes' you have scanning the pages the better the expected outcome.  
> This is especially true if you are writing complete books, manuals, and 
> periodicals, from scratch.
>
> There is also an equally beneficial flip side to this postulate. If you find 
> either "transmogrify" or "endianess" to be ugly, and if you think anybody in 
> particular can plant a garden, repair an automobile, or write a technical 
> manual, you might be management material.
>
> ____________
>
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Richard Melanson
> Sent: Tue 5/19/2009 9:21 AM
> To: Robert Shelton; Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> Shelton
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:32 PM
> To: Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon
>> Burton
>>
>> This is easy. 14 steps:
>>
>> 1. Identify the audience
>> 2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user
>> guides, and so on) 3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do 4.
>> Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks 5.
>> Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help, others)
>> 6. Create a plan that layout all this information 7. Assign time
>> estimates to the plan 8. Decide what can be cut due to time
>> limitations 9.
>> Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product 10.
>> Review by others 11. Make the review changes 12.
>> Build "gold" candidates 13. Deliver the finals 14. Archive the finals,
>
>> including all planning information
>>
>> Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain
>> knowledge in our field. But these are the steps.
>
> I think you skipped something important:
>
> 1. Hire a tech writer.
>
> Bob
> "Let what comes, come,
> Let what goes, go,
> Find out what remains."
> Sri Ramana Maharshi
>
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RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-21 Thread Ben Hechter
How to Write a Manual:
1. Buy 100 computers.
2. Find 100 monkeys to sit at the computers.
3. Wait 100 years for synchronicity to kick in.
Voila, you are done!

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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-21 Thread Ben Hechter
How to Write a Manual:
1. Buy 100 computers.
2. Find 100 monkeys to sit at the computers.
3. Wait 100 years for synchronicity to kick in.
Voila, you are done!

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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-21 Thread Bowsher.Cheryl
How about Technical Writing: Process and Product, by Sharon Gerson? I picked 
that one because it's 700 pages and $95 in paperback. Tell the PHB that it 
would be cheaper than paying you to write it. Also faster.

Good luck!

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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-20 Thread Milan Davidovic
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Richard Melanson
 wrote:
> I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
> today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
> also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
> what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it.

The first part about a procedure is not so far-fetched in a regulation
and standards-rich environment. The procedure won't be a literal
step-by-microcosmic step description of what happens, but it will set
out the requirements of the process and final product. Your
circumstances, however, may not be so heavy on the regulations and
standards.

That second part about "anyone can do it", though... that looks like
the tip of some kind of iceberg. Is there someone else you can talk to
in the organization who knows the context and players?

Good luck.

-- 
Milan Davidovic
http://altmilan.blogspot.com


Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-20 Thread Reid Gray
I think the list agrees that not just anybody can write a good manual.  And 
"No," writers cannot be just "anybody."  They must be committed, they need to 
love language, and as Annie Dillard says "...you really need to like 
words...words such as 'transmogrify'"  

Or, if you will extend the metaphor to IT, "endianess."

The best writing happens as a collective effort with the writer at the center. 
So, for example, take manuals. To write a good manual, one needs:
1. Subject matter experts for authoritative content
2. Enthusiastic reviewers who know the audience and have exposure to the 
subject matter
3. Editors who know the language
4. The technical writer

Trying as a single individual to serve in roles 1 through 4 is possible, but 
the more 'eyes' you have scanning the pages the better the expected outcome.  
This is especially true if you are writing complete books, manuals, and 
periodicals, from scratch. 

There is also an equally beneficial flip side to this postulate. If you find 
either "transmogrify" or "endianess" to be ugly, and if you think anybody in 
particular can plant a garden, repair an automobile, or write a technical 
manual, you might be management material.



From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Richard Melanson
Sent: Tue 5/19/2009 9:21 AM
To: Robert Shelton; Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Shelton
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:32 PM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon
> Burton
>
> This is easy. 14 steps:
>
> 1. Identify the audience
> 2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user
> guides, and so on) 3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do 4.
> Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks 5.
> Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help, others)
> 6. Create a plan that layout all this information 7. Assign time
> estimates to the plan 8. Decide what can be cut due to time
> limitations 9.
> Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product 10.
> Review by others 11. Make the review changes 12.
> Build "gold" candidates 13. Deliver the finals 14. Archive the finals,

> including all planning information
>
> Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain
> knowledge in our field. But these are the steps.

I think you skipped something important:

1. Hire a tech writer.

Bob
"Let what comes, come,
Let what goes, go,
Find out what remains."
Sri Ramana Maharshi


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Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-20 Thread Milan Davidovic
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Richard Melanson
 wrote:
> I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
> today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
> also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
> what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it.

The first part about a procedure is not so far-fetched in a regulation
and standards-rich environment. The procedure won't be a literal
step-by-microcosmic step description of what happens, but it will set
out the requirements of the process and final product. Your
circumstances, however, may not be so heavy on the regulations and
standards.

That second part about "anyone can do it", though... that looks like
the tip of some kind of iceberg. Is there someone else you can talk to
in the organization who knows the context and players?

Good luck.

-- 
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RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-20 Thread Reid Gray
I think the list agrees that not just anybody can write a good manual.  And 
"No," writers cannot be just "anybody."  They must be committed, they need to 
love language, and as Annie Dillard says "...you really need to like 
words...words such as 'transmogrify'"  
 
Or, if you will extend the metaphor to IT, "endianess."
 
The best writing happens as a collective effort with the writer at the center. 
So, for example, take manuals. To write a good manual, one needs:
1. Subject matter experts for authoritative content
2. Enthusiastic reviewers who know the audience and have exposure to the 
subject matter
3. Editors who know the language
4. The technical writer
 
Trying as a single individual to serve in roles 1 through 4 is possible, but 
the more 'eyes' you have scanning the pages the better the expected outcome.  
This is especially true if you are writing complete books, manuals, and 
periodicals, from scratch. 
 
There is also an equally beneficial flip side to this postulate. If you find 
either "transmogrify" or "endianess" to be ugly, and if you think anybody in 
particular can plant a garden, repair an automobile, or write a technical 
manual, you might be management material.



From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Richard Melanson
Sent: Tue 5/19/2009 9:21 AM
To: Robert Shelton; Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Shelton
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:32 PM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon
> Burton
>
> This is easy. 14 steps:
>
> 1. Identify the audience
> 2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user
> guides, and so on) 3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do 4.
> Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks 5.
> Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help, others)
> 6. Create a plan that layout all this information 7. Assign time
> estimates to the plan 8. Decide what can be cut due to time
> limitations 9.
> Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product 10.
> Review by others 11. Make the review changes 12.
> Build "gold" candidates 13. Deliver the finals 14. Archive the finals,

> including all planning information
>
> Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain
> knowledge in our field. But these are the steps.

I think you skipped something important:

1. Hire a tech writer.

Bob
"Let what comes, come,
Let what goes, go,
Find out what remains."
Sri Ramana Maharshi


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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-20 Thread Bowsher.Cheryl
How about Technical Writing: Process and Product, by Sharon Gerson? I picked 
that one because it's 700 pages and $95 in paperback. Tell the PHB that it 
would be cheaper than paying you to write it. Also faster.

Good luck!

Cheryl Bowsher
Las Vegas



RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-19 Thread Richard Melanson
 OUCH !  ;-) 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Shelton
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:32 PM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon 
> Burton
> 
> This is easy. 14 steps: 
> 
> 1. Identify the audience
> 2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user 
> guides, and so on) 3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do 4. 
> Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks 5. 
> Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help, others) 
> 6. Create a plan that layout all this information 7. Assign time 
> estimates to the plan 8. Decide what can be cut due to time 
> limitations 9.
> Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product 10. 
> Review by others 11. Make the review changes 12.
> Build "gold" candidates 13. Deliver the finals 14. Archive the finals,

> including all planning information
> 
> Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain 
> knowledge in our field. But these are the steps.

I think you skipped something important:

1. Hire a tech writer.

Bob
"Let what comes, come,
Let what goes, go,
Find out what remains."
Sri Ramana Maharshi
 

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Procedure How to Write a Manual

2009-05-19 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
On Facebook this would be tagged "Like!" by many.
:-)

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

2009/5/18  :
> If anyone can write a manual, why do you need to write a procedure for doing 
> it?
>
> Let your boss do it if he thinks it's so easy.
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-19 Thread Helen Borrie

>-Original Message-
>From:  Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
>
>I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
>today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
>also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
>what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
>to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the myriad
>of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts. 
>
>PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)
>___

Now, if you are primarily a tech writer by vocation, you really are joking, 
right?  You do know the procedure for writing a manual.  You also understand 
that to eat an elephant, you have to know how to make it into hamburgers.

Someone (you? your boss? his boss?...n?) is authorised *and therefore obliged 
by job description* to enforce a company policy regarding creation and 
maintenance of written procedures at all levels.  If it's your job in the 
department to ensure that procedures have proper and sufficient documentation 
then your "How to Write Procedures" procedure should be in circulation already. 
 

Is it?  

At 02:50 AM 19/05/2009, Flato, Gillian wrote:
>Your boss is a Jackass with poor people skills. 

If "How to Write Procedures" is already in circulation, why does the boss have 
to ask for it?  Is it good enough?  (Does it work?)  Does he know it exists?  
Can he read?  

If not - isn't he just doing his Boss job?  Shouldn't you be grateful that he's 
only insulting you, when he'd really like to have your guts for garters?  

Gillian wrote:

>He just told you that he doesn't appreciate or value you or your job. If 
>layoff time comes, you're the first to go since "anyone can be a writer and 
>what's the
>fuss." 

It could have quite a different readingif he really believed that it were 
so easy, he would have written the "How to Write a Manual" procedure himself, 
handed it to you and told you to "go get".  Maybe he did...and you didn't.

Your boss is not *totally* out of his tree if he means that "anyone" could be a 
provider of essential content for procedure documentation.  To arrive at the 
state where there is a company manual encompassing every procedure in the 
organisation *requires* the responsible experts in each domain to abstract and 
articulate the right way to do every task.  In this sense, even a dyslexic 
paint-blender must be able to perform as a content informant for the written 
paint-blending procedure -- even if you have to provide how-to videos of the 
"questions" each informant has to answer and voice recorders to capture the 
answers.

>It's time to transfer to another dept in your company or polish your resume 
>and look for another job.  

On the other hand, if it's Avram's job to make the company manual happen, and 
it's not happening, then keeping the resume as-is could be safer... ;-) 

Helen



Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-19 Thread Richard Melanson
 OUCH !  ;-) 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Shelton
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:32 PM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon 
> Burton
> 
> This is easy. 14 steps: 
> 
> 1. Identify the audience
> 2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user 
> guides, and so on) 3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do 4. 
> Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks 5. 
> Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help, others) 
> 6. Create a plan that layout all this information 7. Assign time 
> estimates to the plan 8. Decide what can be cut due to time 
> limitations 9.
> Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product 10. 
> Review by others 11. Make the review changes 12.
> Build "gold" candidates 13. Deliver the finals 14. Archive the finals,

> including all planning information
> 
> Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain 
> knowledge in our field. But these are the steps.

I think you skipped something important:

1. Hire a tech writer.

Bob
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Let what goes, go,
Find out what remains."
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Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual

2009-05-19 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
On Facebook this would be tagged "Like!" by many.
:-)

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

2009/5/18  :
> If anyone can write a manual, why do you need to write a procedure for doing 
> it?
>
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RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-19 Thread Helen Borrie

>-Original Message-
>From:  Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
>
>I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
>today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
>also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
>what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
>to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the myriad
>of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts. 
>
>PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)
>___

Now, if you are primarily a tech writer by vocation, you really are joking, 
right?  You do know the procedure for writing a manual.  You also understand 
that to eat an elephant, you have to know how to make it into hamburgers.

Someone (you? your boss? his boss?...n?) is authorised *and therefore obliged 
by job description* to enforce a company policy regarding creation and 
maintenance of written procedures at all levels.  If it's your job in the 
department to ensure that procedures have proper and sufficient documentation 
then your "How to Write Procedures" procedure should be in circulation already. 
 

Is it?  

At 02:50 AM 19/05/2009, Flato, Gillian wrote:
>Your boss is a Jackass with poor people skills. 

If "How to Write Procedures" is already in circulation, why does the boss have 
to ask for it?  Is it good enough?  (Does it work?)  Does he know it exists?  
Can he read?  

If not - isn't he just doing his Boss job?  Shouldn't you be grateful that he's 
only insulting you, when he'd really like to have your guts for garters?  

Gillian wrote:

>He just told you that he doesn't appreciate or value you or your job. If 
>layoff time comes, you're the first to go since "anyone can be a writer and 
>what's the
>fuss." 

It could have quite a different readingif he really believed that it were 
so easy, he would have written the "How to Write a Manual" procedure himself, 
handed it to you and told you to "go get".  Maybe he did...and you didn't.

Your boss is not *totally* out of his tree if he means that "anyone" could be a 
provider of essential content for procedure documentation.  To arrive at the 
state where there is a company manual encompassing every procedure in the 
organisation *requires* the responsible experts in each domain to abstract and 
articulate the right way to do every task.  In this sense, even a dyslexic 
paint-blender must be able to perform as a content informant for the written 
paint-blending procedure -- even if you have to provide how-to videos of the 
"questions" each informant has to answer and voice recorders to capture the 
answers.

>It's time to transfer to another dept in your company or polish your resume 
>and look for another job.  

On the other hand, if it's Avram's job to make the company manual happen, and 
it's not happening, then keeping the resume as-is could be safer... ;-) 

Helen

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RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-19 Thread Robert Shelton
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sharon Burton
> 
> This is easy. 14 steps: 
> 
> 1. Identify the audience
> 2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, 
> user guides, and so on) 3. Identify the tasks the audience 
> needs to do 4. Identify the supporting info the audience 
> needs to do those tasks 5. Identify the best way to deliver 
> the information (PDF, help, others) 6. Create a plan that 
> layout all this information 7. Assign time estimates to the 
> plan 8. Decide what can be cut due to time limitations 9. 
> Start creating the information, adapting to the changing 
> product 10. Review by others 11. Make the review changes 12. 
> Build "gold" candidates 13. Deliver the finals 14. Archive 
> the finals, including all planning information
> 
> Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and 
> domain knowledge in our field. But these are the steps. 

I think you skipped something important:

1. Hire a tech writer.

Bob
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Let what goes, go,
Find out what remains."
Sri Ramana Maharshi
 

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Procedure How to Write a Manual

2009-05-19 Thread strewth
If anyone can write a manual, why do you need to write a procedure for doing it?

Let your boss do it if he thinks it's so easy.
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RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-19 Thread Diane Gaskill
Sure do Rick.  It's actually a slide presentation on good manual design and
development, including how to estimate the time it takes to develop several
types of docs.  I'm writing you directly so that the attachment will go
through.

Diane Gaskill
Hitachi Data Systems
==

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]on Behalf Of Richard
Melanson
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:58 AM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Procedure How to Write a Manual!



First, thank you Everyone, you guys always have the answers to
questions, even when I don't post questions :-)

I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the myriad
of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts.

Rick

PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-18 Thread Robert Shelton
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sharon Burton
> 
> This is easy. 14 steps: 
> 
> 1. Identify the audience
> 2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, 
> user guides, and so on) 3. Identify the tasks the audience 
> needs to do 4. Identify the supporting info the audience 
> needs to do those tasks 5. Identify the best way to deliver 
> the information (PDF, help, others) 6. Create a plan that 
> layout all this information 7. Assign time estimates to the 
> plan 8. Decide what can be cut due to time limitations 9. 
> Start creating the information, adapting to the changing 
> product 10. Review by others 11. Make the review changes 12. 
> Build "gold" candidates 13. Deliver the finals 14. Archive 
> the finals, including all planning information
> 
> Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and 
> domain knowledge in our field. But these are the steps. 

I think you skipped something important:

1. Hire a tech writer.

Bob
"Let what comes, come,
Let what goes, go,
Find out what remains."
Sri Ramana Maharshi




Procedure How to Write a Manual

2009-05-18 Thread stre...@rcn.com
If anyone can write a manual, why do you need to write a procedure for doing it?

Let your boss do it if he thinks it's so easy.


Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-18 Thread Flato, Gillian
Your boss is a Jackass with poor people skills. He just told you that he
doesn't appreciate or value you or your job. If layoff time comes,
you're the first to go since "anyone can be a writer and what's the
fuss." It's time to transfer to another dept in your company or polish
your resume and look for another job.  

-Gillian


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Melanson
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:58 AM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Procedure How to Write a Manual!


First, thank you Everyone, you guys always have the answers to
questions, even when I don't post questions :-) 

I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the myriad
of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts. 

Rick

PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)
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RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-18 Thread Flato, Gillian
Your boss is a Jackass with poor people skills. He just told you that he
doesn't appreciate or value you or your job. If layoff time comes,
you're the first to go since "anyone can be a writer and what's the
fuss." It's time to transfer to another dept in your company or polish
your resume and look for another job.  

-Gillian


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Melanson
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:58 AM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Procedure How to Write a Manual!


First, thank you Everyone, you guys always have the answers to
questions, even when I don't post questions :-) 

I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the myriad
of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts. 

Rick

PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-18 Thread Diane Gaskill
Sure do Rick.  It's actually a slide presentation on good manual design and
development, including how to estimate the time it takes to develop several
types of docs.  I'm writing you directly so that the attachment will go
through.

Diane Gaskill
Hitachi Data Systems
==

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Richard
Melanson
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:58 AM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Procedure How to Write a Manual!



First, thank you Everyone, you guys always have the answers to
questions, even when I don't post questions :-)

I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the myriad
of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts.

Rick

PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-18 Thread Art Campbell
No, this is obviously step #1.

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On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Martin Simon
 wrote:
> 15. Update resume' . ? ?:)
>
>
>
> On May 17, 2009, at 5:42 PM, "Sharon Burton" 
> wrote:
>
>> This is easy. 14 steps:
>>
>> 1. Identify the audience
>> 2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user
>> guides,
>> and so on)
>> 3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do
>> 4. Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks
>> 5. Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help,
>> others)
>> 6. Create a plan that layout all this information
>> 7. Assign time estimates to the plan
>> 8. Decide what can be cut due to time limitations
>> 9. Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product
>> 10. Review by others
>> 11. Make the review changes
>> 12. Build "gold" candidates
>> 13. Deliver the finals
>> 14. Archive the finals, including all planning information
>>
>> Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain
>> knowledge
>> in our field. But these are the steps.
>>
>>
>> sharon
>>
>> Sharon Burton
>> 951-369-8590
>> IM: sharonvburton at yahoo.com
>> Blog: madcapsoftware.wordpress.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard
>> Melanson
>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:58 AM
>> To: Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
>>
>>
>> First, thank you Everyone, you guys always have the answers to
>> questions, even when I don't post questions :-)
>>
>> I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My
>> boss
>> today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
>> also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
>> what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
>> to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the
>> myriad
>> of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)
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RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-18 Thread Sharon Burton
Sorry, guys. I don't know why the line breaks vanished!


sharon

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-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 5:43 PM
To: 'Richard Melanson'; 'Avraham Makeler'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

This is easy. 14 steps: 

1. Identify the audience
2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user guides,
and so on)
3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do
4. Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks
5. Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help, others)
6. Create a plan that layout all this information
7. Assign time estimates to the plan
8. Decide what can be cut due to time limitations
9. Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product
10. Review by others
11. Make the review changes
12. Build "gold" candidates
13. Deliver the finals
14. Archive the finals, including all planning information

Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain knowledge
in our field. But these are the steps. 


sharon

Sharon Burton
951-369-8590
IM: sharonvbur...@yahoo.com
Blog: madcapsoftware.wordpress.com


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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-18 Thread Sharon Burton
Sorry, guys. I don't know why the line breaks vanished!


sharon

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-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 5:43 PM
To: 'Richard Melanson'; 'Avraham Makeler'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

This is easy. 14 steps: 

1. Identify the audience
2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user guides,
and so on)
3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do
4. Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks
5. Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help, others)
6. Create a plan that layout all this information
7. Assign time estimates to the plan
8. Decide what can be cut due to time limitations
9. Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product
10. Review by others
11. Make the review changes
12. Build "gold" candidates
13. Deliver the finals
14. Archive the finals, including all planning information

Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain knowledge
in our field. But these are the steps. 


sharon

Sharon Burton
951-369-8590
IM: sharonvburton at yahoo.com
Blog: madcapsoftware.wordpress.com




Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-18 Thread Art Campbell
No, this is obviously step #1.

Art Campbell
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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
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On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Martin Simon
 wrote:
> 15. Update resume' .    :)
>
>
>
> On May 17, 2009, at 5:42 PM, "Sharon Burton" 
> wrote:
>
>> This is easy. 14 steps:
>>
>> 1. Identify the audience
>> 2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user
>> guides,
>> and so on)
>> 3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do
>> 4. Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks
>> 5. Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help,
>> others)
>> 6. Create a plan that layout all this information
>> 7. Assign time estimates to the plan
>> 8. Decide what can be cut due to time limitations
>> 9. Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product
>> 10. Review by others
>> 11. Make the review changes
>> 12. Build "gold" candidates
>> 13. Deliver the finals
>> 14. Archive the finals, including all planning information
>>
>> Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain
>> knowledge
>> in our field. But these are the steps.
>>
>>
>> sharon
>>
>> Sharon Burton
>> 951-369-8590
>> IM: sharonvbur...@yahoo.com
>> Blog: madcapsoftware.wordpress.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard
>> Melanson
>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:58 AM
>> To: Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
>>
>>
>> First, thank you Everyone, you guys always have the answers to
>> questions, even when I don't post questions :-)
>>
>> I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My
>> boss
>> today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
>> also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
>> what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
>> to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the
>> myriad
>> of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-17 Thread Mike Wickham
> I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
> today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
> also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
> what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
> to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the myriad
> of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts.

Easy! It's a two- or three-step procedure that takes only five minutes:

Step 1. Go to this link on Amazon: 
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=How+to+write+a+manual
 
and select one of the books about how to write a manual. Or go here: 
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=technical+writing
 
for tech writing books.

Step 2. Send your selection to your boss.

Step 3. (Optional, but recommended) Go here: 
http://www.amazon.com/When-Smart-People-Work-Bosses/dp/0070391475/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242618679&sr=1-6
 
and buy _When Smart People Work for Dumb Bosses._ Send it to yourself.

Warning! Do not mix up steps 2 and 3!

: )

Mike Wickham

P.S. You have my sympathy.




Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-17 Thread Mike Wickham
> I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
> today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
> also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
> what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
> to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the myriad
> of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts.

Easy! It's a two- or three-step procedure that takes only five minutes:

Step 1. Go to this link on Amazon: 
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=How+to+write+a+manual
 
and select one of the books about how to write a manual. Or go here: 
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=technical+writing
 
for tech writing books.

Step 2. Send your selection to your boss.

Step 3. (Optional, but recommended) Go here: 
http://www.amazon.com/When-Smart-People-Work-Bosses/dp/0070391475/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242618679&sr=1-6
 
and buy _When Smart People Work for Dumb Bosses._ Send it to yourself.

Warning! Do not mix up steps 2 and 3!

: )

Mike Wickham

P.S. You have my sympathy.


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Re: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-17 Thread Martin Simon
15. Update resume' .:)



On May 17, 2009, at 5:42 PM, "Sharon Burton"   
wrote:

> This is easy. 14 steps:
>
> 1. Identify the audience
> 2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user  
> guides,
> and so on)
> 3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do
> 4. Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks
> 5. Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help,  
> others)
> 6. Create a plan that layout all this information
> 7. Assign time estimates to the plan
> 8. Decide what can be cut due to time limitations
> 9. Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product
> 10. Review by others
> 11. Make the review changes
> 12. Build "gold" candidates
> 13. Deliver the finals
> 14. Archive the finals, including all planning information
>
> Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain  
> knowledge
> in our field. But these are the steps.
>
>
> sharon
>
> Sharon Burton
> 951-369-8590
> IM: sharonvbur...@yahoo.com
> Blog: madcapsoftware.wordpress.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard  
> Melanson
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:58 AM
> To: Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
>
>
> First, thank you Everyone, you guys always have the answers to
> questions, even when I don't post questions :-)
>
> I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My  
> boss
> today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
> also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
> what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
> to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the  
> myriad
> of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts.
>
> Rick
>
> PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-17 Thread Martin Simon
15. Update resume' .:)



On May 17, 2009, at 5:42 PM, "Sharon Burton"   
wrote:

> This is easy. 14 steps:
>
> 1. Identify the audience
> 2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user  
> guides,
> and so on)
> 3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do
> 4. Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks
> 5. Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help,  
> others)
> 6. Create a plan that layout all this information
> 7. Assign time estimates to the plan
> 8. Decide what can be cut due to time limitations
> 9. Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product
> 10. Review by others
> 11. Make the review changes
> 12. Build "gold" candidates
> 13. Deliver the finals
> 14. Archive the finals, including all planning information
>
> Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain  
> knowledge
> in our field. But these are the steps.
>
>
> sharon
>
> Sharon Burton
> 951-369-8590
> IM: sharonvburton at yahoo.com
> Blog: madcapsoftware.wordpress.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard  
> Melanson
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:58 AM
> To: Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Procedure How to Write a Manual!
>
>
> First, thank you Everyone, you guys always have the answers to
> questions, even when I don't post questions :-)
>
> I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My  
> boss
> today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
> also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
> what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
> to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the  
> myriad
> of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts.
>
> Rick
>
> PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)
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RE: Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-17 Thread Sharon Burton
This is easy. 14 steps: 

1. Identify the audience
2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user guides,
and so on)
3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do
4. Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks
5. Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help, others)
6. Create a plan that layout all this information
7. Assign time estimates to the plan
8. Decide what can be cut due to time limitations
9. Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product
10. Review by others
11. Make the review changes
12. Build "gold" candidates
13. Deliver the finals
14. Archive the finals, including all planning information

Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain knowledge
in our field. But these are the steps. 


sharon

Sharon Burton
951-369-8590
IM: sharonvbur...@yahoo.com
Blog: madcapsoftware.wordpress.com


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:58 AM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Procedure How to Write a Manual!


First, thank you Everyone, you guys always have the answers to
questions, even when I don't post questions :-) 

I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the myriad
of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts. 

Rick

PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-17 Thread Sharon Burton
This is easy. 14 steps: 

1. Identify the audience
2. Identify the information needs of that audience (job aids, user guides,
and so on)
3. Identify the tasks the audience needs to do
4. Identify the supporting info the audience needs to do those tasks
5. Identify the best way to deliver the information (PDF, help, others)
6. Create a plan that layout all this information
7. Assign time estimates to the plan
8. Decide what can be cut due to time limitations
9. Start creating the information, adapting to the changing product
10. Review by others
11. Make the review changes
12. Build "gold" candidates
13. Deliver the finals
14. Archive the finals, including all planning information

Of course, these steps include a lot of embedded steps and domain knowledge
in our field. But these are the steps. 


sharon

Sharon Burton
951-369-8590
IM: sharonvburton at yahoo.com
Blog: madcapsoftware.wordpress.com


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:58 AM
To: Avraham Makeler; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Procedure How to Write a Manual!


First, thank you Everyone, you guys always have the answers to
questions, even when I don't post questions :-) 

I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the myriad
of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts. 

Rick

PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-17 Thread Richard Melanson

First, thank you Everyone, you guys always have the answers to
questions, even when I don't post questions :-) 

I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the myriad
of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts. 

Rick

PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)
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Procedure How to Write a Manual!

2009-05-14 Thread Richard Melanson

First, thank you Everyone, you guys always have the answers to
questions, even when I don't post questions :-) 

I just want to share this with the list and absorb the response. My boss
today told me to "write a procedure on how to write a manual" and he
also stated to me that anyone could be a writer, he did not understand
what all the fuss was about tech writing, anyone could do it. Needless
to say, I am still sitting at my desk trying to sort through the myriad
of reactions I am having! I cant wait to hear everyone's thoughts. 

Rick

PS: Does anyone have a procedure how to write a manual ;-)