82559 information
To David Greenman or.. whoever is maintaining if_fxp.c I picked up an 82559 card from compusa today... Guess what?! It's device id was 0x1030 instead of 0x1229. I adjusted my driver to match and it seems to work fine. Of course, I haven't tried it yet with FreeBSD. (I was using vxWorks.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: kernel broken? (pcm)
On 11 Oct, Bill Fumerola wrote: #makeoptions CONF_CFLAGS=-fno-builtin We have enough breakages with the _documented_ kernel options that we As Bruce Evans already said, It's documented. don't need to go hunting down oddities. : Have you seen the '#' in "#makeoptions"? I assume a '#' in the config file means: "Hey config, don't look at this!". Please correct me if I'm wrong. I've tested both variants with and without '#'. After editing the file I did a 'config -r CONFIG', 'cd ../../compile/CONFIG', 'make depend', 'make'. I get the error independently of CONF_FLAGS. Back at home I do it again if you want. Bye, Alexander. -- http://netchild.home.pages.de A.Leidinger @ WJPServer.CS.Uni-SB.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: 3dfx Driver?
Has anyone ported the linux 3DFx Driver to FreeBSD? Don't think so. Why? You volunteering? =) I made a start on it earlier this year, but the final step (mapping the card memory) I got wrong, which then locked up the machine. The box the code is on is the other side of the world at the moment unfortunately. Stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Still waiting for xl driver reports
On Sun, Oct 10, 1999 at 04:59:34PM -0400, Bill Paul wrote: A while back I posted a message here saying that I'd changed the xl driver a bit to hopefully improve performance for 3c90xB and later adapters (i.e. the "cyclone," "hurricane" and "tornado" chipsets). I asked for people to report if the changes helped, hurt, made no difference or were totally broken. So far not one person has said so much as a word to me on this subject. I use the xl device (two cards: xl0 and xl1) in my kernel (compiled on October 4th) and hadn't realized I was using the new driver. I only noticed weird things last Sunday when the interface hung while I was trying a tcpdump on it (I was loggued remotely, which explains why I saw the problem immediately)... Then there was a "xl1: watchdog timeout" and things went back to normal. I compiled today's kernel to see if it made any difference, and I can confirm I can repeat it easily you wish. The watchdog timeout seems to happen every time I get out of promiscuous mode, and (very seldom) at other random moments. To reiterate, this only concerns people with the following adapters: Here's what I have: xl0: 3Com 3c900-COMBO Etherlink XL irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci2 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:bf:13:96 xl0: selecting 10baseT transceiver, half duplex xl1: 3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL irq 11 at device 17.0 on pci0 xl1: Ethernet address: 00:c0:4f:67:0b:82 It's on xl1 that I have problems, although I'm not sure this wouldn't happen on xl0 too (xl0 is configured down at the moment). Now regarding performance, I haven't made extensives tests. The closest thing to that that I have in mind is to stretch that 2*100Mbps trunking link we configured this morning between two of our ethernet switches :-) -- Pierre Beyssac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch
thanks for the note on bouncefilter. i'll take a look at it. may be just what i am looking for.. may be better than what i am using already. always interested in somethatngthat will help me do this better. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: kernel broken? (pcm)
On 12 Okt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can try the patch in (my) PR 'kern/14278'. Works. Bye, Alexander. -- What do you mean, my birth certificate expired? http://netchild.home.pages.de A.Leidinger+Home @ WJPServer.CS.Uni-SB.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Proper Whacking Weeding
It took me some fiddling to get a -current system from begin of September to build present -current. To achieve this, among other things, I cleaned up. That box is building from source for over two years now, and there were quite a lot of old files in the directory hierarchy. From rotten headers in /usr/include and strange libs in /usr/lib (libtermcap.so.2?) to strange locale stuff in /usr/share/misc However I might have whacked a bit too much, as Emacs (both 19 and 20) display is messed up in textmode. vi and sysinstall however work. And under X emacs still works. Anyone has an idea what could be wrong? More systematically: Is there a way to ensure that /usr/include, /usr/share/.. and such are rebuilt properly? (No files missing, no old files messing things up) Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Request for Flames
Folks,
I'm writing a series of web pages on how to ask for help on the
FreeBSD mailing lists.
From time to time, some innocent newbie wanders in here asking a
question with far too little information. ("CVSup/pn0/sio.c doesn't
work. Why not?")
On occasion, you folks have taken the time to write detailed notes
describing the exact information you need to solve these problems.
(On other occasions, said newbie is seen around town: a little bit
here, a little bit there... but that's another problem.)
I'me searched the mail archives looking for these messages, and am
having difficulty finding them. (It's difficult to search for "That
message where Bill Paul told a newbie in excruciating detail what he
needed to fix the problem, and what would happen to the next newbie
who asked this question without providing this information.") Lots of
questions, very few detailed answers.
If any of you have copies of messages that you have previously sent,
describing what information you need to solve a particular problem, I
would appreciate it if you would forward these to me. I'll use this
information to write another guide.
For an example of what I'm trying to do, take a look at:
http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~dispatch/report/nic.html
My eventual goal is to have something like this for every troublesome
part of the system. Hopefully newbies will either read these and give
the proper information, or go away and leave us alone. ;)
Thanks,
==ml
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Linux X Server
Hi, Has anyone ever run a Linux X Server under FreeBSD/Linux Emulation? I'm trying to run the Voodoo Banshee server from Creative Labs. The reason I'm trying to do this is because when I run XFree86 3.3.5, it screws up my console display when I exit X. The Linux Server is looking to open /dev/tty9 and it can't. I tried putting a hard link from /dev/tty9 to /dev/ttyv9 but when i started X it paniced the kernel :) Is there any way first of all to fix 3.3.5 to work, and if not, to get the Linux server to work? Is there any way to somehow mimic /dev/tty9 for it? I'm running 4.0-CURRENT, and the console garble thing also happened on 3.2-RELEASE Thanks in advance for your help. Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch
"Jason K. Fritcher" wrote: I must say that Jonathan has been more than fair. About a year, maybe a year and a half ago, I didn't have a dedicated connection, and was doing smtp on demand, with my ISP spooling mail for me when I wasn't online. On average, I would get approximate, 20-30 messages during the night while I was offline, and twice a night, for each message, my ISP would send a message back to freebsd.org saying that the messages were still sitting in a queue waiting to be delivered. So for a period of a couple months, he put up with an average of ~50/day messages saying that my mail hadn't been delivered yet. Personally I was suprised I wasn't killed after the first week. Interestingly, I used to have problems once. My provider had a problem in which it's users would stop being recognized at times, resulting in 5xx messages. It would last only a few minutes (well, it could last longer at night), but it would happen again and again throughout the day, which, I guess, generates the pattern that leads jmb to unsubscribe people. The funny thing is... the problem happened because of a bug on FreeBSD's nis. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I always feel generous when I'm in the inner circle of a conspiracy to subvert the world order and, with a small group of allies, just defeated an alien invasion. Maybe I should value myself a little more?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: scsi tape driver wants an update
Matthew Jacob wrote: This is a harmless message for the moment. I took a look at the new make_dev stuff- it's more than a no-brainer to add because there's a lot of stuff about supported device nodes, etc... I'll try and get back to this after FreeBSDcon. Funny, phk's comments led me to believe it's actually easier to use make_dev() (!= makedev(), btw -- maybe you looked up the wrong one?). And, talking about phk, it is also my impression that it is his intent to push these changes as fast as he can. He gets strange at this time of the year, y'know... I think Jordan once posted an interesting explanation for this phenomenum. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I always feel generous when I'm in the inner circle of a conspiracy to subvert the world order and, with a small group of allies, just defeated an alien invasion. Maybe I should value myself a little more?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: 82559 information
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, David Holloway wrote: To David Greenman or.. whoever is maintaining if_fxp.c I picked up an 82559 card from compusa today... Guess what?! It's device id was 0x1030 instead of 0x1229. I adjusted my driver to match and it seems to work fine. Support was added in -current Sept 6. It appears that no one has back ported it yet. -- Brooks To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: scsi tape driver wants an update
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Daniel C. Sobral" writes: Matthew Jacob wrote: This is a harmless message for the moment. I took a look at the new make_dev stuff- it's more than a no-brainer to add because there's a lot of stuff about supported device nodes, etc... I'll try and get back to this after FreeBSDcon. Funny, phk's comments led me to believe it's actually easier to use make_dev() (!= makedev(), btw -- maybe you looked up the wrong one?). And, talking about phk, it is also my impression that it is his intent to push these changes as fast as he can. He gets strange at this time of the year, y'know... I think Jordan once posted an interesting explanation for this phenomenum. :-) "This time of the year" == "This time in the release cycle" If we want to have a somewhat clean line before 4.0 now is the time to push it through, not after the code freeze. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: scsi tape driver wants an update
"This time of the year" == "This time in the release cycle" If we want to have a somewhat clean line before 4.0 now is the time to push it through, not after the code freeze. And could you mention when the code freeze might be so that some of us could plan our work? Perhaps I've missed something, but I hadn't heard when the freeze would be. I have a *lot* of things to consider changing before it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: scsi tape driver wants an update
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: "This time of the year" == "This time in the release cycle" If we want to have a somewhat clean line before 4.0 now is the time to push it through, not after the code freeze. And could you mention when the code freeze might be so that some of us could plan our work? Perhaps I've missed something, but I hadn't heard when the freeze would be. I have a *lot* of things to consider changing before it. I have no idea when the code freeze happens, neither has anybody else. Looking at my complete collection of FreeBSD CDs on the shelf here I would put my money (but not too much) on january 2000. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: scsi tape driver wants an update
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: "This time of the year" == "This time in the release cycle" If we want to have a somewhat clean line before 4.0 now is the time to push it through, not after the code freeze. And could you mention when the code freeze might be so that some of us could plan our work? Perhaps I've missed something, but I hadn't heard when the freeze would be. I have a *lot* of things to consider changing before it. I have no idea when the code freeze happens, neither has anybody else. Looking at my complete collection of FreeBSD CDs on the shelf here I would put my money (but not too much) on january 2000. Well, you scared me with the "not after the code freeze" statement. I would like the work I do for FreeBSD 4.0 not to be as incomplete as it was for FreeBSD 3.0, so making plans as to when new feature freeze is would be a "good thing (tm)". To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: scsi tape driver wants an update
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew Jacob writes: And could you mention when the code freeze might be so that some of us could plan our work? Perhaps I've missed something, but I hadn't heard when the freeze would be. I have a *lot* of things to consider changing before it. I have no idea when the code freeze happens, neither has anybody else. Looking at my complete collection of FreeBSD CDs on the shelf here I would put my money (but not too much) on january 2000. Well, you scared me with the "not after the code freeze" statement. I would like the work I do for FreeBSD 4.0 not to be as incomplete as it was for FreeBSD 3.0, so making plans as to when new feature freeze is would be a "good thing (tm)". I'd say try to have the boat rocking done by dec 1st, but that is merely a guess. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch
"Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: "Accidental" removals from the lists are so common that I give up. I no longer even try to get back on them -- it's been happening for _years_ now, and I have made multiple complaints about it, and if it's not a problem for whoever runs the mailing lists, then I just don't care that much. only one comment. i remove people from the lists whenever their email bounces. the threshhold is approximately 30 messages in a 24 hour period. mail may bounce due to DNS problems, mail box full, MTA misconfiguration. i also remove people that send vacation messages to the list. oh, and spammers. Perhaps these threshholds could use some minor adjustments, or perhaps my interpretation of the above policy is not quite what really happens. Having been in a situation similar to Jonathan's (managing a large site, many lists, thousands of users) I can only say that it's hard to appreciate the difficulty of the task without experiencing it. I think he does a fine job, extending people more patience than I used to. :) And just who did you think passed the hat onto JMB? He is doing an outstanding job of postmaster, but it seems we have a small problem that perhaps can easily be fixed by some minor adjustments, perhaps not. The biggest part of my response was an attempt to more fully understand his current ``policy'', in that the original statements about it where lacking in detail. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25)[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
SMP stack faults...
Just a followup question on my question from a week ago or so ther was indeed a stack overflow I'd guess- I check the code path more carefully and there was a 2KB stack buffer there (oof)- and removing it seemed to make the problem go awaySo the question here is "Shouldn't this have been a more obvious fault"? -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Linux X Server
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Bill A. K. wrote: Hi, Has anyone ever run a Linux X Server under FreeBSD/Linux Emulation? I'm trying to run the Voodoo Banshee server from Creative Labs. The reason I'm Yup. I run a Voodoo Banshee, with the Creative Labs Linux X server. This is on -CURRENT just before newpcm and newpnp, and XFree 3.3.3. I don't remember having to do anything too wild to get it working. The one problem I do remember is that it doesn't play nicely with /dev/sysmouse. I have to use the real mouse device, and can't run moused. I don't have access to the machine at the moment, so I cannot tell you much more than that. I will take a look at the machine when I get home, and see what else I might have done. I don't run xdm, which might be an issue. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Request for Flames
Michael Lucas wrote: If any of you have copies of messages that you have previously sent, describing what information you need to solve a particular problem, I would appreciate it if you would forward these to me. I'll use this information to write another guide. I guess I ought to see what you already have, but... well, I'm lazy, and not connected right now. :-) Whatever you do, *please* make a mention of the sections in the handbook that deal precisely with this kind of stuff! -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I always feel generous when I'm in the inner circle of a conspiracy to subvert the world order and, with a small group of allies, just defeated an alien invasion. Maybe I should value myself a little more?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch
Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: thanks for the note on bouncefilter. i'll take a look at it. may be just what i am looking for.. may be better than what i am using already. always interested in somethatngthat will help me do this better. That is what I was talking about. With ezmlm there is no need to deal with bounces anymore, it does that completly automatically with VERP. At this time it only runs with qmail, but it might be possible to teach it to like postfix (should be even easy IMHO). I'll give it a shot if there is a chance that it will be used eventually. I know some guys with list's in the three digit k to one digit M range which don't have to deal with bounces at any time. I know it's hard to believe but it's true and I can provide you with names where one can ask for confirmation. More information about ezmlm can be found on ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/ezmlm.html (Authors homepage) and http://www.ezmlm.org (extended version, ezmlm-idx) more info about VERP is here ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/proto/verp.txt (very interesting) and about how it handles bounces perfectly automatic: http://www.ezmlm.org/faq-0.32/FAQ4.html#ss4.9 (ezmlm path for bounces) plus http://www.ezmlm.org/faq-0.32/FAQ4.html#ss4.33 (how bounces are handled) -- Andre Oppermann CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 http://www.pipeline.ch[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch
At 9:23 PM +0200 1999/10/12, Andre Oppermann wrote: I know some guys with list's in the three digit k to one digit M range which don't have to deal with bounces at any time. I know it's hard to believe but it's true and I can provide you with names where one can ask for confirmation. And Bryan Costales Eric Allman have hacked sendmail to support VERPs, and last I heard InfoBeat was handling on the order of several million customers per day. Of course, they're doing an e-mail merge operation so that each recipient gets a unique message, but that would just put an even heavier load on the system than a mailing list the same size. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy |o| Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Why Adaptec 1540 bombing?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD Bob writes: : It is a long shot, but I am curious if anyone knows of any problems in : using the Adaptec 1540A on 3.x or 4.x machines? The aha 1540 driver (me) didn't have access to the 1540A cards, so I made changes blind and never tested (nor did those folks that bugged me to make them). If you can send me this card, I can see what I can do about making it work with the aha driver. There are problems with CAM and this hardware's use of transfer residuals which might make it hard to get working. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch
Brad Knowles wrote: At 9:23 PM +0200 1999/10/12, Andre Oppermann wrote: I know some guys with list's in the three digit k to one digit M range which don't have to deal with bounces at any time. I know it's hard to believe but it's true and I can provide you with names where one can ask for confirmation. And Bryan Costales Eric Allman have hacked sendmail to support VERPs, and last I heard InfoBeat was handling on the order of several million customers per day. Of course, they're doing an e-mail merge operation so that each recipient gets a unique message, but that would just put an even heavier load on the system than a mailing list the same size. That is just how VERP works, every email is unique (at least the return-path). They must be crazy to run a several million recipients mailing list with sendmail... Do you remember the time when the FreeBSD lists were driven by sendmail? The lists were lagging several hours behind. And I don't think we have high two or three digit k subscribers on a single list. Maybe JMB can shed some light on how many people are subscribed to the lists (just ranges). -- Andre Oppermann CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 http://www.pipeline.ch[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: World fail + resulting cvsup failures
mrynet# cvsup *** *** runtime error: ***Segmentation violation - possible attempt to dereference NIL ***pc = 0x2f *** Abort trap I sent a heads up about this to the list a while ago. There are people working on the kernel problem that causes it. For now, add "@M3novm" to the cvsup command line (anywhere) as a work-around. And don't try to build a new Modula-3 or CVSup on -current at the moment. It won't work. John -- John Polstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] John D. Polstra Co., Inc.Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up."-- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Why Adaptec 1540 bombing?
Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can send me this card, I can see what I can do about making it work with the aha driver. There are problems with CAM and this hardware's use of transfer residuals which might make it hard to get working. If he can't, I've got a 1540A somewhere (in theory ;-) that I'd be willing to lend out (if the address is in the US). It's been years since I've used it, and so I'm not 100% sure that it still works, though. -- Darryl Okahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Why Adaptec 1540 bombing?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Darryl Okahata writes: : If he can't, I've got a 1540A somewhere (in theory ;-) that I'd be : willing to lend out (if the address is in the US). It's been years : since I've used it, and so I'm not 100% sure that it still works, : though. Well, I could install 2.2.x onto a disk and see if that works there. Once I do that, I can then know if it works or not. :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Proper Whacking Weeding
On 1999-Oct-13 01:03:54 +1000, Marc van Woerkom wrote: It took me some fiddling to get a -current system from begin of September to build present -current. It might be useful if you documented exactly what you did. This is likely to be a very popular topic for the next few months... Is there a way to ensure that /usr/include, /usr/share/.. and such are rebuilt properly? (No files missing, no old files messing things up) It shouldn't be possible to miss files during an installworld without the installworld bombing out, though I'm not sure how to actually confirm this. I have had a couple of occurrences where my checked-out source tree got out of step with my CVS tree (I'm not sure how this happened). My solution here is to occasionally do a checkout into a temporary tree and compare it with my active tree. (An alternative would be to squirrel away my local patches and blow away the active tree). As for obsolete cruft in the root and /usr filesystems, you could try "rm -fr /" :-). Seriously, since installworld installs everything with the current date, one way is to run "ls -ltr" on all all affected directories and delete all files older than the installworld. Peter -- Peter Jeremy (VK2PJ)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alcatel Australia Limited 41 Mandible St Phone: +61 2 9690 5019 ALEXANDRIA NSW 2015 Fax: +61 2 9690 5982 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Kirk McKusick wrote: I would like to take a step back from the debate for a moment and ask the bigger question: How many real-world applications actually use the block device interface? I know of none whatsoever. All the filesystem utilities go out of their way to avoid the block device and use the raw interface. Does anyone on this list know of any programs that need/want the block interface? If there are none, or It doesn't run on FreeBSD, but Sybase uses block devices for its dedicated disk devices. There may be other RDBMSes that do this. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Recent kernel hangs during boot with pnp sio.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Rabson writes: : If you find yourself with one of these and pnp is turned off, you can : download the DOS utility from 3com. I recently had to do this for a friend : (to turn pnp off). It was harder to find a DOS boot disk :-). Sometimes these programs work with doscmd with magic command line options... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Scheidt writes: : It doesn't run on FreeBSD, but Sybase uses block devices for its dedicated : disk devices. There may be other RDBMSes that do this. EVERY RDBMS that I've ever seen or had to make work with my drivers has been on the raw partition. This is because the database writers DO NOT LIKE OR TRUST the buffer cache due to its non-deterministic nature of disk writing. Are you sure that Sybase uses BLOCK devices and not CHAR devices? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.
If you are going to respond to this. do it to 'freebsd-arch' only I've redirected my resonse there.. don't respond to this one.. On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Kirk McKusick wrote: I would like to take a step back from the debate for a moment and ask the bigger question: How many real-world applications actually [...] julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
ESS 1938 Soundcard
I just picked up a cheap PCI soundcard at Fry's for $17.99. The box has a picture of a card using the Trident 4DWAVE chip, but the card in the box had an ESS 1938S chip on it. Now I know there is no support for this card yet, but was wondering if there is any support planned for it in the near future? Anyone heard of this PCI sound chip? Didn't see anything on the OSS webpage about it either. Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Linux X Server
"Bill A. K." wrote: Has anyone ever run a Linux X Server under FreeBSD/Linux Emulation? I'm trying to run the Voodoo Banshee server from Creative Labs. The reason I'm trying to do this is because when I run XFree86 3.3.5, it screws up my console display when I exit X. The Linux Server is looking to open /dev/tty9 and it can't. I tried putting a hard link from /dev/tty9 to /dev/ttyv9 but when i started X it paniced the kernel :) Is there any way first of all to fix 3.3.5 to work, and if not, to get the Linux server to work? Is there any way to somehow mimic /dev/tty9 for it? The Banshee only seems to have this problem when switching from a graphical mode to the _standard_ text mode (80x25). Adding the following line to /etc/rc.conf allscreens_flags="80x30" fixed it for me. Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.
Sybase can use either block devices or raw disk. We run all our databases, Sybase, Oracle, etc. on raw disk. the database engineers here would kill me if i were to ask them to use a block device rather than raw disk. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
non-512 msdosfs patch
This is Chiharu Shibata, who sent the PR(misc/12992) before. That PR's patch is to support non-512bytes/sector media for msdosfs. I have been checking the CVS repository, but the patch is not committed yet. I was hoping to be committed, before the patch is not available by another modification of msdosfs. The MO is very popular media in Japan, and 640MB/1.3GB MO are both 2048bytes/sector media. So, It is a FAQ that "How can I use DOS/Windows formatted 640MB MO?". In addition, NEC PC-98 uses non-512bytes/sector media generally. It is useless for PC-98 without the patch, not too much to say. I have reports that the patch works well, not only NEC PC-98, but also PC/AT's FreeBSD3.2-RELEASE. PS. I don't subscribe freebsd-current ML. About this theme, please send to me via freebsd98-hackers ML with Cc:. (See Cc: of this mail) -- Chiharu Shibata[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PnP problems on install floppy in 4.0-SNAPS from current.freebsd.org
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Rabson writes: : Due to the nature of the pnp code, it might be probed as ed1 instead of : ed0. I have a SBC here that has an onboard PNP ne2000 chip on it. It comes up as ed1 because I have ed0 at a wired address. I don't see ed0 at all, and it just works, so I just hacked my rc.conf to use ed1 rather than ed0 like I did when it ran 3.3R. Now for the obligitory tangent: Does FreeBSD have the ability to reassign IRQs for PNP devices? I have one that is coming up at IRQ 5, but I have a non-PNP device that is at 5, but many other IRQs free. There is no way in the BIOS to set which IRQs are used for PNP and which ones are designated for legacy devices. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: How do I get a PCCARD modem to work?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Justin T. Gibbs" writes: : The pccard brokenness is not sio's fault. If I were following where : our PCCARD support was going, I might take a stab at fixing this myself... Yes. Pccard brokennes *IS* sio's fault. It was written to only deal with ISA busses and cannot attach to other busses (yet). That's the issue. I did noticed that Doug submitted some changes that might change this... I'll have to look tonight after doing some consulting.. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: 3dfx Driver?
there was a walkthrough on how to get the linux drivers running through the linux emulation. this is specifically for the quake3 test, i dont know how it will fare on any other programs ( havent tried) but q3test does work. if you want, check it out http://www.cybernet.com/~mtaylor/q3ahowto.html Andrew - Original Message - From: "Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Amancio Hasty" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 15:48 Subject: Re: 3dfx Driver? On [19991011 12:00], Amancio Hasty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Has anyone ported the linux 3DFx Driver to FreeBSD? Don't think so. Why? You volunteering? =) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai Network/Security SpecialistBSD: Technical excellence at its best One from many. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
How to report problems (was: Request for Flames)
On Tuesday, 12 October 1999 at 11:08:50 -0400, Michael Lucas wrote:
Folks,
I'm writing a series of web pages on how to ask for help on the
FreeBSD mailing lists.
From time to time, some innocent newbie wanders in here asking a
question with far too little information. ("CVSup/pn0/sio.c doesn't
work. Why not?")
That's a *good* one. Take a look at
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html for some alternatives.
On occasion, you folks have taken the time to write detailed notes
describing the exact information you need to solve these problems.
(On other occasions, said newbie is seen around town: a little bit
here, a little bit there... but that's another problem.)
I'me searched the mail archives looking for these messages, and am
having difficulty finding them. (It's difficult to search for "That
message where Bill Paul told a newbie in excruciating detail what he
needed to fix the problem, and what would happen to the next newbie
who asked this question without providing this information.") Lots of
questions, very few detailed answers.
If any of you have copies of messages that you have previously sent,
describing what information you need to solve a particular problem, I
would appreciate it if you would forward these to me. I'll use this
information to write another guide.
For an example of what I'm trying to do, take a look at:
http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~dispatch/report/nic.html
Looks good. You probably need to structure it differently (for
example, have a link to things like OS revision and kernel config,
which will be needed in most cases).
Greg
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COMMAND_SET ?
I'm looking at sys/boot/common/pnp.c so I can find out how pnp is handled, and I found something called a COMMAND_SET, and I can't figure out what it means. Any takers? Chuck Robey| Interests include C programming, Electronics, 213 Lakeside Dr. Apt. T-1 | communications, and signal processing. Greenbelt, MD 20770| I run picnic.mat.net: FreeBSD-current(i386) and (301) 220-2114 | jaunt.mat.net : FreeBSD-current(Alpha) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: COMMAND_SET ?
It's defined in sys/boot/common/bootstrap.h. I think all you want to know is in that file. On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 09:46:12PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: I'm looking at sys/boot/common/pnp.c so I can find out how pnp is handled, and I found something called a COMMAND_SET, and I can't figure out what it means. Any takers? Chuck Robey| Interests include C programming, Electronics, 213 Lakeside Dr. Apt. T-1 | communications, and signal processing. Greenbelt, MD 20770| I run picnic.mat.net: FreeBSD-current(i386) and (301) 220-2114 | jaunt.mat.net : FreeBSD-current(Alpha) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch
Ben Smithurst wrote... Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: i do NOT send the person mail to inform them that the are being removed from the mailing lists, because their email is bouncing. How about sending a message to them once every 24 hours for, say, a week? I imagine some of those bounces are due to temporary mis-configurations which will soon be fixed. I dunno what jmb's general experience is, but my experience from the 15 or so lists that I manage is that most bounces are from people who switch ISPs, etc., and don't unsubscribe. (Quota violations are another popular cause nowadays.) It generally isn't worth the effort to send mail informing them of the fact that they've been unsubscribed, since it'll almost always keep bouncing. They'll figure it out when they stop getting mail, if they care about the list. Things might be different, of course, for the FreeBSD lists since people on these lists are generally much more clueful. Ken -- Kenneth Merry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Freebsd 4.0 and Linux
Hi What depth of FreeBSD's support for Linux applications under FreeBSD 4.0? I can't seem to find adequate information online. Does the support comply with our current requirements for Linux?: minimum kernel version: 2.0.34 minimum glibc version: 2.0.7-19 Mariusz To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: [Patches avail?] Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ...
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Dillon writes: : Forget the drilling! Blood conducts electricity... simply *installing* : a motherboard in those fraggin sharp-edged sheet metal chassis is enough! I've had one or two cheapo mo-bos that haven't worked at 100MHz after spattering human blood on it from said sharp-edged sheet metal corners... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
