Re: Start dhcpd on boot

2006-07-17 Thread Erik Norgaard

Chris Hill wrote:
I installed net/isc-dhcp3-server from ports, butI can't seem to persuade 
it to start when the machine boots. After boot I can do a

# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd.sh start
...and the daemon runs and works, but I would like for it to start
automatically on boot, with no manual intervention. Any thoughts on how 
to do this?


In /etc/rc.conf I have
dhcpd_enable=YES  # Run the DHCP daemon...
dhcpd_ifaces=rl1  # ...on this interface...
dhcpd_flags=-q# ...in quiet mode.


Remove -q, this has only effect on startup that it won't display any 
messages - and that may just be why you don't see the error message you 
need to solve the problem.


Also, no need to specify interfaces, dhcpd will bind to the interfaces 
that match the network declarations in the config file.


Cheers, Erik

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Re: LDAP Thunderbird and security (OFF)

2006-07-17 Thread Nagy László Zsolt

Nagy László írta:


 Hello,

I would like to create an LDAP server, for storing address book 
information for Thunderbird. E-mail clients will be connecting 
remotely with IMAPS (over the internet). Is there a secure way to do 
this? I know that samba can create an LDAP server but it is not 
secure, is it? I also know that I could create a VPN connection, but 
for my users, this is too difficult to setup. :-) Do you know a 
solution, definitely for FreeBSD, that is relatively easy to setup on 
the client side, and secure?
I could setup openldap, and my thunderbird can connect to it. But I 
cannot add persons to that address book. I also asked this on the 
openldap mailing list, but I had no answer since two days. I read 
somewhere that Thunderbird requires a special schema to be present on 
the LDAP server. Anybody out there who could use openldap with thinderbird?


Thanks,

  Laszlo


p.s.: Sorry to be offtopic, nobody helped on the openldap list.
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Re: Alt Gr key troubles in FreeBSD

2006-07-17 Thread nocturnal

Hi

I'm sorry for the late reply but i thought i had sent you an e-mail when 
actually i had not.


I tried all the things you mentioned and i discovered that the problem 
can easily be reproduced in any application. It's simply a matter of me 
not letting go of the shift key fast enough. I reproduce it by typing 
any number of characters in caps with the shift key down and then 
directly switching to pressing the alt gr key and hitting the 8 
character for example in order to produce the [ character on Swedish 
keyboards. This is when the output becomes silent and nothing happens.


I tried on a co-workers computer which runs Windows and it's the same on 
that system. It's been a while since i properly used the Windows system 
so i had forgotten that it was like that there to.


No reply is required to this thread as i have found out that this is 
just the way the driver works on both FreeBSD and Windows systems. So i 
have my answers.




Med vänliga hälsningar

Stefan Midjich aka nocturnal
[Swehack] http://swehack.se


Erik Nørgaard wrote:

nocturnal wrote:


Well i usually use vim and it's hard to know if it happens in other
applications, because i use vim so much compared to the other
applications and also because i mostly write those characters in vim. I
do use FreeBSD at home to and i can't remember any problems from writing
e-mails or chatting on irc. I use rxvt for all my terminal applications.
Of course this could simply mean i don't use those characters much in
those applications. I used to use nedit, before vim, and i am sure i had
the same problem in nedit.


Well, could you to narrow in on the problem try and test these things?

0th: Tell us your keyboard settings in XF86Config (model and layout)

1st: List the characters that you have problem with - obviously you need
a computer that doesn't suffer this problem :)

2nd: Try to type all these characters with the correct key-combinations,

- In the console
- In xterm
- In vi (not vim)
- In xemacs/emacs
- In firefox or thunderbird - any place you can type

Then maybe someone can point you closer to the solution.

Cheers, Erik


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Re: 6.1-RELEASE-i386 man broken?

2006-07-17 Thread J
On 2006-07-14 (Fri) 06:55:28 [+], Matthew Seaman wrote:
 J wrote:
...
  FreeBSD, recently, as my transported Linux bash configs contained
  MANPATH=$MANPATH:/custom/manpath. What I never figured out was the
  rationale for this. Anyone mind me asking what's wrong with MANPATH or
  why manpath.config is exclusively favored? For instance, while I have a
  /usr/lib/man.conf on my Linux system and can set the default manpath
  there, man happily coexists with any MANPATH. How does one add a custom
  manpath without root privileges? Etc. Just curious; thanks.
 
 The manpath(1) program is designed to provide standard system-wide
 operation of the man(1) command.  It covers all of the places the
 ports system will put manpages and all of the system manpages.  That
 is generally sufficient for most sites.
 
 If you have a customised directory layout and start putting man pages in
 unusual places, then you've got two choices.  If these oddly located man
 pages are for general consumption, then add the appropriate info to
 /etc/manpath.config -- by editing that one file you will make those
 manpages visible immediately to all users on the system.
 
 Otherwise if you have your own private stache of manpages you should
 set MANPATH in your shell initialization scripts.  However, you should
 not assume that MANPATH is already set so that you can just append to
 it. To get the best of both worlds, set your local $MANPATH based on the
 output of manpath(1).  For Bourne-type shells, something like:
 
   MANPATH=${MANPATH:-$(manpath)}:/foo/bar/man:/baz/quux/man
   export MANPATH
 
 Or to ignore any previous setting of MANPATH in the environment:
 
   MANPATH=$( unset MANPATH ; manpath ):/foo/bar/man:/baz/quux/man
   export MANPATH
 
 csh equivalents are left as an exercise for the student.
 

Thanks for your time and reply. I'm afraid I'm still failing to see the
special advantage in the 'MANPATH-produces-warning' method, but I
suppose it's a 'when in Rome'. :)
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Blank screen after existing X windows

2006-07-17 Thread Martin Miedema
I just installed FreeBSD 6.1 on my Thinkpad T23 (one of my first times 
using FreeBSD) and after wrestling my self through configuring X I'm 
having the following problem:


X starts correctly and opens KDE but when I log it out it just shows a 
blank screen. I can blindly type shutdown -p now or startx (which starts 
X again normally.


The only way for me to shutdown X without facing the blank screen 
appears to be by using CTRL-F1 and pressing CTRL+C


Please let me know if you need any configuration files or logs etc.

Thanks in advance,

Martin Miedema.
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Re: Alt Gr key troubles in FreeBSD

2006-07-17 Thread Erik Norgaard

nocturnal wrote:

I tried all the things you mentioned and i discovered that the problem 
can easily be reproduced in any application. It's simply a matter of me 
not letting go of the shift key fast enough. I reproduce it by typing 
any number of characters in caps with the shift key down and then 
directly switching to pressing the alt gr key and hitting the 8 
character for example in order to produce the [ character on Swedish 
keyboards. This is when the output becomes silent and nothing happens.


I don't think this is a bug, but rather a feature:

Some characters become available with the combination of Alt-Gr+shift, 
for example if you don't have a spanish keyboard, you can produce a '¿' 
with Alt-Gr+'?' but to get the '?' you may have to use shift as well. 
Same ting with '¡' and you will find that Alt-Gr+a produces a 'ª' while 
Alt-Gr+shift+a produces a 'º' ... IIRC.


That output becomes silent is simply a result of no character being 
located at the Alt-Gr+shift position on that key.


The only characters (I know) I haven't figured out how to type on my 
danish keyboard are ç (French, Portuguese ...) and · (Catalan).


So if someone complains, then just say that it's because they have the 
Babelfish keyboard layout :)


Anyway, I think that this behaviour may date back to old style keyboards 
where the Alt-Gr was a compose character and to avoid you having to 
press the fourth key with your nose, you could let go of the others.


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Re: Blank screen after existing X windows

2006-07-17 Thread Jim Stapleton

On 7/17/06, Martin Miedema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just installed FreeBSD 6.1 on my Thinkpad T23 (one of my first times
using FreeBSD) and after wrestling my self through configuring X I'm
having the following problem:

X starts correctly and opens KDE but when I log it out it just shows a
blank screen. I can blindly type shutdown -p now or startx (which starts
X again normally.

The only way for me to shutdown X without facing the blank screen
appears to be by using CTRL-F1 and pressing CTRL+C

Please let me know if you need any configuration files or logs etc.

Thanks in advance,

Martin Miedema.
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You might want to post the end of your xorg log file as of the error
(go to a non-x console after logging out of X but before restarting
it, grab the last full entry)

I had this issue before, it was caused by not having X setup right (I
think I loaded a module it didn't like or had the driver settings
slightly off), either way, making the config file slightly more
conservative with the driver fixed it. I can't remember what I did,
but the xorg.conf file made the error pretty obvious.

-Jim Stapleton
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Re: Blank screen after existing X windows

2006-07-17 Thread Martin Miedema

Jim Stapleton wrote:

On 7/17/06, Martin Miedema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just installed FreeBSD 6.1 on my Thinkpad T23 (one of my first times
using FreeBSD) and after wrestling my self through configuring X I'm
having the following problem:

X starts correctly and opens KDE but when I log it out it just shows a
blank screen. I can blindly type shutdown -p now or startx (which starts
X again normally.

The only way for me to shutdown X without facing the blank screen
appears to be by using CTRL-F1 and pressing CTRL+C

Please let me know if you need any configuration files or logs etc.

Thanks in advance,

Martin Miedema.
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You might want to post the end of your xorg log file as of the error
(go to a non-x console after logging out of X but before restarting
it, grab the last full entry)

I had this issue before, it was caused by not having X setup right (I
think I loaded a module it didn't like or had the driver settings
slightly off), either way, making the config file slightly more
conservative with the driver fixed it. I can't remember what I did,
but the xorg.conf file made the error pretty obvious.

-Jim Stapleton
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I have uploaded my Xorg.0.log / Xorg.0.log.old and xorg.conf in a zip 
file which is available at: http://cyberswordshideout.tk/bsdstuff.zip


Thanks,

Martin.
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Re: USB and 6.1-RELEASE

2006-07-17 Thread Rich Demanowski

Micah wrote:

Rich Demanowski wrote:
scbus, da, pass, ohci, uhci, ehci, usb, udbp, ugen, uhid, ukbd, ulpt, 
umass, ums, ural, urio and uscanner are all enabled in the running 
kernel's /usr/src/sys/i386/conf config file.  usbd is not running.  
When  I try to start usbd I get the following:

   No USB host controllers found.

There are no usb* devices listed in /dev.

in dmesg I get the following with regard to ohci0 and ehci0:
   ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xfe02f000-0xfe02 
at device 11.0 on pci0

   pcib0: unable to route slot 11 INTA
   ohci0: Could not allocate irq
   device_attach: ohci0 attach returned 6
   ehci0: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller mem 
0xfe02e000-0xfe02e0ff at device 1 1.1 on pci0

   pcib0: unable to route slot 11 INTB
   ehci0: Could not allocate irq
   device_attach: ehci0 attach returned 6


When I plug the drive into any of the USB ports on the system, 
nothing happens in dmesg or /var/log/messages.  camcontrol devlist 
lists no devices.


I'm a bit confused as to why my USB keyboard and mouse function, but 
my thumb drive will not.


It's likely that your BIOS has legacy support enabled in which case, 
as far as FreeBSD is concerned, you actually have a regular keyboard 
and mouse. That would explain why the mouse and keyboard work while 
other USB items do not. From the messages you gave, it's clear that 
FreeBSB is unable to connect to the USB controller. Disabling legacy 
support in the BIOS may help. Otherwise check your BIOS for other USB 
related settings and try changing those.


Indeed, legacy support is enabled (actually auto was the setting in 
the BIOS).  When I disable it, the keyboard and mouse cease functioning, 
as well.  That was the only setting I could find in the BIOS related to USB.


I suppose that means the on-board USB controller is one not supported by 
existing drivers?  Or at least ones not listed in the  GENERIC config on 
which  I based my kernel (all  I added was the ath drivers for my 
wireless)?  I don't know which chipset it is, but my guess is, since the 
on-board video and LAN is an nVidia chipset, that the USB controller 
probably is, as well.

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Need help with getting transparent proxy working across WAN

2006-07-17 Thread curard bandage
I have a FreeBSD transparent proxy working on local lan. Where the 
workstation's NIC
has its gateway set to the proxy server's internal ip address. Everything 
works fine.


Problem is when I move my workstation from the local lan where the proxy
server resides,  on to the 10.4.0.0 network,  this is across a WAN link,  
Transparent proxy stops working it appears no web traffic is getting to the 
proxy, and I'm not able to get to ant web site.  I am able to ping the proxy 
server, and use the proxy if I utilize a pac file, and drop the IPFW rules.


I should also note that I have transparent proxy running under Debian using 
iptables, across the WAN link,  but want to move to FreeBSD. So I feel my 
routers are setup correctly.


I suspect the problem is with my IPFW rules or NAT configuration but I'm not 
sure.


FreeBSD 6.1
Kernel was recompiled with:
options IPFIREWALL
options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD
options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
options IPDIVERT

RC.CONF contains
gateway_enable=YES
ifconfig_xl0=inet x.x.x.x. netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig_xl1=inet x.x.x.x  netmask 255.255.255.0
firewall_enable=YES
firewall_type=OPEN
natd_enable=YES
natd_interface=xl1
natd_flags=

CISCO router has the following configured

access-list 199 permit tcp 10.4.0.0 0.0.255.255 any eq www
access-list 199 deny   ip any any

route-map redirect-proxy permit 10
match ip address 199
set ip next-hop proxy server internal ip

My IPFW rules:
ipfw -q flush
ipfw add divert natd all from not me to any via outside interface
ipfw add fwd 127.0.0.1:8000 tcp from any to any 80

squid complied with
SQUID_CONFIGURE_ARGS+=--enable-pf-transparent

SQUID.CONF
httpd_accel_host virtual
httpd_accel_port 0
httpd_accel_with_proxy on
httpd_accel_uses_host_header on
header_access Via deny all
header_access X-Forwarded-For deny all


Thank you for taking the time to look. Any advice or troubleshooting tips 
are welcome.


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debug on booting

2006-07-17 Thread sudheer linux

Hi,

I would like to debug while booting freebsd. I tried couple of options but
its not getting into gdb mode while booting.

copied /boot/default/loader.conf to /boot/loader.conf

in /boot/loader.conf, enabled

boot_ddb=-d
boot_gdb=-g

If these are not the right options.. rather right way, kindly let me know
how to go about it ?

I basically want to check memory allocation behavior while booting.

Thanks in advance
Sudheer
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Re: swiN: clock sio process taking 75% CPU

2006-07-17 Thread Gareth McCaughan
I wrote:
 About 6 minutes after booting (on two occasions; I don't
 guarantee that this doesn't vary), a process that appears
 in the output of ps as [swi4: clock sio] begins to
 use about 3/4 of the machine's CPU. I think it does so
 more or less instantaneously. It continues to do so
 indefinitely, so far as I can tell.
[etc]

No ideas? I'm willing to help track this down, and the machine
in question is sufficiently little used that I can do so without
gross inconvenience; but I don't have enough FreeBSD kernel
expertise to feel like diving in blind.

 *

A little more information, in case it's useful to anyone:

  | $ echo; sysctl debug | egrep to_
  | debug.to_avg_mpcalls: 2890
  | debug.to_avg_mtxcalls: 0
  | debug.to_avg_gcalls: 768
  | debug.to_avg_depth: 3815

That's with HZ = 100. Here are some numbers from a message
in freebsd-ia64, from Marcel Moolenaar, in 2004-07, to someone
seeing symptoms like mine. They're meant to be typical healthy
numbers. Mine above look somewhat worse, but not insanely so;
surely not enough to explain the difference between using
0.3% cpu and using 75%. Marcel also had HZ=100.

  | % sysctl debug | grep to_avg
  | debug.to_avg_depth: 2500
  | debug.to_avg_gcalls: 1003
  | debug.to_avg_mpcalls: 1255

 *

It would be a shame if the only conclusion to be drawn from this
were sometimes a machine running FreeBSD is just 4x slower than
it should be, and no one knows why.

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SOLVED - Firefox + video.google.com (was Re: firefox with flash and java!)

2006-07-17 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Thu, 25 May 2006 00:01:53 +1000
Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Marwan Sultan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: firefox with flash and java!
 Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 00:01:53 +1000
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.0 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1)
 
 On Wed, 24 May 2006 13:33:33 +
 Marwan Sultan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Hello Beto,
Thank you again, for the quick replay, the last step has been done as 
  root, but the error presented.
after searching freebsd list i found the follow to command insted.
  
  cd /usr/src   patch  rtld_dlsym_hack.diff  cd libexec/rtld-elf/  make 
  cleanmake objmake depend   make  make install
  
  and after reboot it was perfect. 
 
 ha! yes, probably you had to do this to refresh the library if it was already
 in memory (init 1, enter, ctrl-d would have been faster though)
 
  
  I'v tested few sites and flash is working great, one of the sites, if you 
  click on
  the flash ads that they have, it will open externel popup flash window for 
  you
  to run a flash video clip on it, this one didnot work,
  I think it needs external flash player to run such thing is it correct?
  do you recommend any?
 
 dont click on the ads? ;) not sure - i never actually had the need for
 that an 'external popup flash window' would be, in most cases, a browser
 window , so you should be covered here. Maybe it's a video.google flash? (or
 something using the *same* tech so it also fails? I've found a few that
 die... but the ones @ flash.com all worked fine.

For the archives: replacing www/firefox for www/linux-firefox package solved the
video.google.com problem :) No idea why, it just works.

B


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Re: Start dhcpd on boot

2006-07-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, 16 Jul 2006, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

 Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Again, the issue is *not* that dhcpd doesn't work - IT WORKS
 PERFECTLY. The issue is that the daemon doesn't start when the
 machine boots.

 Can you use the startup script to start it by hand?

 Yes. As I said in the original post,
 After boot I can do a
 # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/isc-dhcpd.sh start
 ...and the daemon runs and works

Oops.  Sorry I missed that.

Well, it almost *has* to be something small and silly, then.  What you
have configured is almost exactly the same as what works for me.
My settings come directly out of the pkg-message for the port, and are:
# ### recommended settings for running isc-dhcpd
dhcpd_enable=YES 
dhcpd_flags=-q# command option(s)
dhcpd_conf=/usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf  # configuration file
dhcpd_ifaces=vr0  # ethernet interface(s)
dhcpd_withumask=022   # file creation mask

Assuming that other scripts from that directory are starting properly,
my next step would be to inject debugging output into the script and
look at what actually gets printed to the console at boot.  If you
haven't looked at the existing console output already, that may have
some messages that didn't go into any log files.

Good luck, and sorry I can't be more helpful.
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defining dependencies for ports

2006-07-17 Thread Owen G
 
 Message: 5
 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:00:40 -0500
 From: mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: defining dependencies for ports
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 Hello.  I'm brand new to FreeBSD.  I'm mostly enjoying it so far. 
 I'm 
 playing with installing the Eclipse IDE port right now.  I say
 playing 
 with because I started to install it and saw the list of dependencies
 
 and shuddered.  I like to keep my system relatively clean and tend to
 
 start a new install of Linux (and now BSD) as bare bones and add only
 
 what I need.
 
 So I'm building Eclipse, and one of the things it wants to include is
 
 python .  Seems odd for my java ide to need python, so I look it up
 on 
 the web tool that shows all the dependencies for a port (which is a 
 fantastic tool, by the way).  And python is included because glade is
 
 included, and glade seems to be a top-level dependency.  However, 
 nowhere can I find in the Makefile any reference to Glade, nor to the
 
 many other top-level dependencies.  How do I find out these things
 and 
 once I find them, how do I change them so I don't include?  (Mozilla
 is 
 another example, but this one I actually see in the Makefile for the 
 Eclipse port.  However, make config and make configure don't ask me
 if I 
 want mozilla -- I use firefox).
 
 This applies generally.  I installed other ports too that had odd 
 dependencies (like including perl because of some helper scripts that
 
 aren't even required to be run).  Is there a command I'm missing that
 
 let's me configure these things?
 
 On a side note, is the name pretty-print-build-depends-list
 designed 
 to keep me from running the command?  ;-)  And after typing all that,
 
 the output wasn't really even pretty.
 
 thanks for any tips.  Sorry if this is a dumb question, I've been
 using 
 FreeBSD only two days now.  Currently I run slackware.
 
 mike

Mike,


Have a look at this link and see how your ports don't have to be
difficult:

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html

Look for other stuff Dru's written about as well - good stuff.

Install the port you want and all the dependancies will sort themselves
out:

e.g.

# cd /usr/ports//www/firefox/
# make install clean

Sorted!

You are aware that there exists
1. ports = source = must be compiled = make install (as above)
2. packages = executable packages = precompiled = pkgadd -r . . .

So unless you're running a custom kernel, there's no advantage of ports
over packages.

Good luck,

Owen





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Re: swiN: clock sio process taking 75% CPU

2006-07-17 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Can I suggest that if you get no replies on questions@ that you try 
hackers@ (you may need to subscribe to post, not sure).


What's going on here is not normal so even someone with tons of FreeBSD 
experience may never have seen something like this.  I know I never 
have.  Most posters here are not kernel hackers.


It would be a shame if the only conclusion to be drawn from this were 
sometimes a machine running FreeBSD is just 4x slower than it should 
be, and no one knows why. 


Well, if you could only find one somewhat relevant topic with google, 
then sometimes would be almost never.  I appreciate that you are 
frustrated because it *is* happening to you, but your problem is not a 
common one so may take more than a post on questions to resolve.


--Alex


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Re: defining dependencies for ports

2006-07-17 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Owen G wrote:


You are aware that there exists
1. ports = source = must be compiled = make install (as above)
2. packages = executable packages = precompiled = pkgadd -r . . .

 


Whilst your description of ports and packages is correct...


So unless you're running a custom kernel, there's no advantage of ports
over packages.


...this is not.

Ports are useful :

  1) For any package with multiple compile-time options (e.g. apache) 
where *you* want to choose those options rather than be stuck with the 
ones the *package* was compiled with (c.f. Linux rpms)


  2) If you want to be as up-to-date as possible - packages take time 
to pre-compile and can lag the ports tree a little


  3) If require the source code (for maintaining local patches; because 
another port or some other local software needs it)


I'm not aware that a custom kernel has any relevance whatsoever.  
Perhaps you meant unless you have used some cpu-specific compile flag 
in make.conf but I don't think even that would make a difference.


Also, ports and packages are managed much more easily with a tool like 
portupgrade or portmanager.  I prefer the former because it has never 
core-dumped on me, and feels more robust and well maintained.


If you have multiple machines you keep in sync, then portupgrade -p or 
pkg_create -b can be used to create local packages with *your* 
compile-time options that other local machines can use.


--Alex




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Re: swiN: clock sio process taking 75% CPU

2006-07-17 Thread Gareth McCaughan
 Can I suggest that if you get no replies on questions@ that you try 
 hackers@ (you may need to subscribe to post, not sure).
 
 What's going on here is not normal so even someone with tons of FreeBSD 
 experience may never have seen something like this.  I know I never 
 have.  Most posters here are not kernel hackers.

That's a fair comment. I tried -stable too; I'm fairly sure some
people there *are* kernel hackers; but -hackers is probably not a
bad place to look for deeper wizardry.

  It would be a shame if the only conclusion to be drawn from this were 
  sometimes a machine running FreeBSD is just 4x slower than it should 
  be, and no one knows why. 
 
 Well, if you could only find one somewhat relevant topic with google, 
 then sometimes would be almost never.  I appreciate that you are 
 frustrated because it *is* happening to you, but your problem is not a 
 common one so may take more than a post on questions to resolve.

I found quite a lot of relevant messages. In every case what happened
was that someone posted saying I've got this weird thing where X% of
my CPU time is being taken up by this clock sio thing and they got no
responses other than from other people saying yup, that's strange.
(Sometimes there was something else they were also concerned about,
and they got responses to that bit.) A few examples found by googling
for clock sio site:lists.freebsd.org follow; most appear to have
been asked only on -stable, and it was because this seems to have been
an unsuccessful strategy that I tried -questions too. :-)

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-April/024793.html

(16%; old system with modems attached, which were also
giving problems; the latter was resolved, kinda, but it's
not clear that the former was)

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-July/026873.html

(not clear how much CPU; his concern was something else that
was triggered by this, and he had another kernel thread being
silly too; no resolution)

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2004-December/010673.html

(not certain that this is the same problem, but it sure looks
like it; no reply to his message)

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2004-November/009489.html

(24% on one machine, 8% on another; no reply)

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2005-March/047218.html

(18% but drops when a real task begins; may not be the same problem;
this is under MS Virtual Server; only suggestion was to reduce HZ,
which didn't solve the problem; no further replies)

However, I've not seen any sign that other people have had *as much*
CPU wasted this way as I have.

-- 
g

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[Fwd: Poster Promotion]

2006-07-17 Thread jenny

they're having this promotion where you can get an 18 x 24 poster printed from 
your own files at zero cost and you don't pay for shipping either.  these are 
THE poster guys.

you can get 50 color 18 x 24 posters for like $175.  thought you might be 
interested :)  its at http://www.xeikonprints.com

-Jenny

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Re: LinkLib Issues In freebsd Lazarus

2006-07-17 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
  I'd say this is a mistake. You should probably install the fpc port in
  /usr/ports/lang/fpc. There may be reasons to install your own version
  instead of a port, but you haven't presented any.
 As per the Lazarus docs/INSTALL, compiling Lazarus requires the FPC
 source tree, A binary install of FPC won't do.

It's *really* unusual for a port to install a binary tarball if the
source is available. Most ports that install binaries are for
commercial products for which source isn't available.

  Again, you should probably have used the ports version, in
  editors/fpc-ide.
 That's the text-mode IDE, not the GUI one, called Lazarus.

That port doesn't say very much about what it is, other than it's an
fpc-ide. Sorry for the mistake.

 So, all that is needed is to apply the patches I mentioned in my OP, get
 the proper gdk-pixbuf installed from ports, and it is as good as gold.
 
 Now, how can I create a port for Lazarus, now that I have it compiled
 and running?

You'll probably want to start by creating an fpc port that builds from
source. A lazarus port could fetch the source files itself and use
them, but if I were using them, I'd like to know that the fpc I was
using was built from the sources the ide used.

A port is basically a Makefile plus at least some text files. The
ports tree includes a lot of make machinery to
fetch/extract/patch/build/etc. based on that. See the porters handbook
at URL:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html
 for details.

mike
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Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information.
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Re: LDAP Thunderbird and security (OFF)

2006-07-17 Thread Atom Powers

On 7/17/06, Nagy László Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nagy László írta:

  Hello,

 I would like to create an LDAP server, for storing address book
 information for Thunderbird.

...

 Do you know a
 solution, definitely for FreeBSD, that is relatively easy to setup on
 the client side, and secure?
I could setup openldap, and my thunderbird can connect to it. But I
cannot add persons to that address book. I also asked this on the
openldap mailing list, but I had no answer since two days. I read
somewhere that Thunderbird requires a special schema to be present on
the LDAP server. Anybody out there who could use openldap with thinderbird?



First, OpenLDAP isn't easy to set up; but it's worth the trouble.
You should probably move this to the openldap list, or the thunderbird
list, since it really has nothing to do with FreeBSD.

I have Thurderbird reading my directory, but I haven't worked on
getting Thunderbird to write to an LDAP directory. You need to set up
your LDAP with TLS and the proper ACLs; and depending on your
situation you may want a seperate ou for the address book. Maybe even
a seperate ou for each user (ouch). No special schema required, it
should read the standard mail, phone, etc attributes. Check the
LDAP RFCs for a complete list.

--
--
Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard.
--Atom Powers--
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Re: defining dependencies for ports

2006-07-17 Thread mike

Alex Zbyslaw wrote:

Owen G wrote:


You are aware that there exists
1. ports = source = must be compiled = make install (as above)
2. packages = executable packages = precompiled = pkgadd -r . . .

 


Whilst your description of ports and packages is correct...


So unless you're running a custom kernel, there's no advantage of ports
over packages.


...this is not.

Ports are useful :

  1) For any package with multiple compile-time options (e.g. apache) 
where *you* want to choose those options rather than be stuck with the 
ones the *package* was compiled with (c.f. Linux rpms)


  2) If you want to be as up-to-date as possible - packages take time 
to pre-compile and can lag the ports tree a little


  3) If require the source code (for maintaining local patches; 
because another port or some other local software needs it)


I'm not aware that a custom kernel has any relevance whatsoever.  
Perhaps you meant unless you have used some cpu-specific compile flag 
in make.conf but I don't think even that would make a difference.


Also, ports and packages are managed much more easily with a tool like 
portupgrade or portmanager.  I prefer the former because it has never 
core-dumped on me, and feels more robust and well maintained.


If you have multiple machines you keep in sync, then portupgrade -p or 
pkg_create -b can be used to create local packages with *your* 
compile-time options that other local machines can use.


--Alex








Thanks for the responses.  This is /exactly/ why I'm using ports instead 
of packages, because I want to have things compiled with my options.  
However, the reason for my original post was that I'm having a hard time 
customizing this, for java/Eclipse specifically.  I try make config 
but it doesn't show anything.  So how do I go about cutting out or 
changing some of the dependencies that I don't want if there are no 
OPTIONS defined? 

And I can't find where these dependencies are even defined in this 
case.  I grep everything in /usr/ports/java/eclipse and don't see 
references to most of the dependencies.  Where are they defined if not 
in the BUILD_DEPENDS, etc. variables of the Makefile?


thanks again.  I'm learning a lot in this process.

mike
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Re: defining dependencies for ports

2006-07-17 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

mike wrote:

Thanks for the responses.  This is /exactly/ why I'm using ports 
instead of packages, because I want to have things compiled with my 
options.  However, the reason for my original post was that I'm having 
a hard time customizing this, for java/Eclipse specifically.  I try 
make config but it doesn't show anything.  So how do I go about 
cutting out or changing some of the dependencies that I don't want if 
there are no OPTIONS defined?
And I can't find where these dependencies are even defined in this 
case.  I grep everything in /usr/ports/java/eclipse and don't see 
references to most of the dependencies.  Where are they defined if not 
in the BUILD_DEPENDS, etc. variables of the Makefile?


What options you get for any port do depend on what the maintainer chose 
to put in.  If there is some option that eclipse itself has, but the 
port does not, then contacting the maintainer is where I might start.


Looking thought the eclipse Makefile you see things like:

.if defined(WITH_MOTIF)

or

.if !defined(WITHOUT_MOZILLA)

which tell you what is going to be looked for when the port is 
compiled.  Is that what you meant by dependencies?


So if using plain make you say something like make WITH_MOTIF=1 or 
make WITHOUT_MOZILLA=1.


Using portupgrade, you can add these to the MAKE_ARGS for java/eclipse 
in pkgtools.conf and have them used automatically every time you recompile.


Or there is

BUILD_DEPENDS=  ant:${PORTSDIR}/devel/apache-ant \
   zip:${PORTSDIR}/archivers/zip

but usually they are not optional for a reason!

What, specifically, were you trying to do?

Not every port supports make config unfortunately.  I haven't done 
enough port hacking to know how easy it is to add this to any port, but 
can't believe it's that hard - of course, hard depends on your 
experience!  Comparing to a port which *does* support make config 
(mozilla, samba3, portupgrade) may help you do it for yourself; the 
Porters Handbook on the website may also have helpful info.


hth,

--Alex


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Re: defining dependencies for ports

2006-07-17 Thread mh983


- Original Message 
From: Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:19:15 AM
Subject: Re: defining dependencies for ports

mike wrote:

 Thanks for the responses.  This is /exactly/ why I'm using ports 
 instead of packages, because I want to have things compiled with my 
 options.  However, the reason for my original post was that I'm having 
 a hard time customizing this, for java/Eclipse specifically.  I try 
 make config but it doesn't show anything.  So how do I go about 
 cutting out or changing some of the dependencies that I don't want if 
 there are no OPTIONS defined?
 And I can't find where these dependencies are even defined in this 
 case.  I grep everything in /usr/ports/java/eclipse and don't see 
 references to most of the dependencies.  Where are they defined if not 
 in the BUILD_DEPENDS, etc. variables of the Makefile?

What options you get for any port do depend on what the maintainer chose 
to put in.  If there is some option that eclipse itself has, but the 
port does not, then contacting the maintainer is where I might start.

Looking thought the eclipse Makefile you see things like:

.if defined(WITH_MOTIF)

or

.if !defined(WITHOUT_MOZILLA)

which tell you what is going to be looked for when the port is 
compiled.  Is that what you meant by dependencies?

So if using plain make you say something like make WITH_MOTIF=1 or 
make WITHOUT_MOZILLA=1.

Using portupgrade, you can add these to the MAKE_ARGS for java/eclipse 
in pkgtools.conf and have them used automatically every time you recompile.

Or there is

BUILD_DEPENDS=  ant:${PORTSDIR}/devel/apache-ant \
zip:${PORTSDIR}/archivers/zip

but usually they are not optional for a reason!

What, specifically, were you trying to do?

Not every port supports make config unfortunately.  I haven't done 
enough port hacking to know how easy it is to add this to any port, but 
can't believe it's that hard - of course, hard depends on your 
experience!  Comparing to a port which *does* support make config 
(mozilla, samba3, portupgrade) may help you do it for yourself; the 
Porters Handbook on the website may also have helpful info.

hth,

--Alex


Yes, that helps.  I did find the zip and ant dependencies.  When I had looked 
at the dependency tree on the web, there were a lot of others, such as glade 
which then requires python.  I didn't want glade or python, so I was kind of 
curious where this dependency was listed if not explicit in the Makefile.  I 
guess my question was more just in general than specifically for the Eclipse 
package.  From what you said, it sounds like it all just depends on how the 
port was written by the owner, if things are considered an option you can 
change or not.  Thanks for taking the time to actually go and look at the 
Makefile for this, that was above and beyond.

mike



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Re: defining dependencies for ports

2006-07-17 Thread Gerard Seibert
mike wrote:

 Alex Zbyslaw wrote:
  Owen G wrote:
 
  You are aware that there exists
  1. ports = source = must be compiled = make install (as above)
  2. packages = executable packages = precompiled = pkgadd -r . . .
 
   
 
  Whilst your description of ports and packages is correct...
 
  So unless you're running a custom kernel, there's no advantage of ports
  over packages.
 
  ...this is not.
 
  Ports are useful :
 
1) For any package with multiple compile-time options (e.g. apache) 
  where *you* want to choose those options rather than be stuck with the 
  ones the *package* was compiled with (c.f. Linux rpms)
 
2) If you want to be as up-to-date as possible - packages take time 
  to pre-compile and can lag the ports tree a little
 
3) If require the source code (for maintaining local patches; 
  because another port or some other local software needs it)
 
  I'm not aware that a custom kernel has any relevance whatsoever.  
  Perhaps you meant unless you have used some cpu-specific compile flag 
  in make.conf but I don't think even that would make a difference.
 
  Also, ports and packages are managed much more easily with a tool like 
  portupgrade or portmanager.  I prefer the former because it has never 
  core-dumped on me, and feels more robust and well maintained.
 
  If you have multiple machines you keep in sync, then portupgrade -p or 
  pkg_create -b can be used to create local packages with *your* 
  compile-time options that other local machines can use.
 
  --Alex
 
 Thanks for the responses.  This is /exactly/ why I'm using ports instead 
 of packages, because I want to have things compiled with my options.  
 However, the reason for my original post was that I'm having a hard time 
 customizing this, for java/Eclipse specifically.  I try make config 
 but it doesn't show anything.  So how do I go about cutting out or 
 changing some of the dependencies that I don't want if there are no 
 OPTIONS defined? 
 
 And I can't find where these dependencies are even defined in this 
 case.  I grep everything in /usr/ports/java/eclipse and don't see 
 references to most of the dependencies.  Where are they defined if not 
 in the BUILD_DEPENDS, etc. variables of the Makefile?
 
 thanks again.  I'm learning a lot in this process.

Check out the java/eclipse Makefile. It has build options in it that are
configurable. You can do that either by entering them on the command
line, or by placing them in the /etc/make.conf file like this:

# java/eclipse section
.if $(.CURDIR:M*/java/eclipse)
# Your options are placed here.
# I usually place them one per line for easier reading
.endif

I like the /etc/make.conf option myself since I do not have to remember
to enter the options if I update the port. Also, both portupgrade and
portmanager will honor any instructions in the /etc/make.conf file.
Unlike Mike, I prefer 'portmanager' since it seems to do a more through
update of a ports dependencies, etc., but that is just my opinion.

Ciao

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Re: Blank screen after existing X windows

2006-07-17 Thread Jim Stapleton

On 7/17/06, Martin Miedema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jim Stapleton wrote:
 On 7/17/06, Martin Miedema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just installed FreeBSD 6.1 on my Thinkpad T23 (one of my first times
 using FreeBSD) and after wrestling my self through configuring X I'm
 having the following problem:

 X starts correctly and opens KDE but when I log it out it just shows a
 blank screen. I can blindly type shutdown -p now or startx (which starts
 X again normally.

 The only way for me to shutdown X without facing the blank screen
 appears to be by using CTRL-F1 and pressing CTRL+C

 Please let me know if you need any configuration files or logs etc.

 Thanks in advance,

 Martin Miedema.
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 You might want to post the end of your xorg log file as of the error
 (go to a non-x console after logging out of X but before restarting
 it, grab the last full entry)

 I had this issue before, it was caused by not having X setup right (I
 think I loaded a module it didn't like or had the driver settings
 slightly off), either way, making the config file slightly more
 conservative with the driver fixed it. I can't remember what I did,
 but the xorg.conf file made the error pretty obvious.

 -Jim Stapleton
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I have uploaded my Xorg.0.log / Xorg.0.log.old and xorg.conf in a zip
file which is available at: http://cyberswordshideout.tk/bsdstuff.zip

Thanks,

Martin.



Please put the file in the mail to the newsgroup, or if you really
don't want to put it here, host the plain-text, and not in an archive.

Thanks,
-Jim
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User crontab file dosent run...?

2006-07-17 Thread perikillo

Hi people.

 Im testing how to run scripts from cron using the crontab program,
the handbook say tha each user need to have a crontab file if they
want to run some process with the cron program:

user-x$ crontab -e

SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
MAILTO=root
*/1 *   *   *   *   user-x /bin/echo Testing

went the user finish and save the file the system say:

/tmp/crontab.JIh2pM4Ey5 5 lines, 120 characters
crontab: installing new crontab

Them i use the flag -l to see that user crontab file:

root# crontab -l -u user-x

SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
MAILTO=root
*/1 *   *   *   *   user-x /bin/echo Testing

Them the handbook say that the root user must add the user crontab file:

root#crontab /var/cron/tabs/user-x_crontab_file

But here the crontab add the crontab to user root, ok no problem just
what to see this think works, but still dosent see any mail to root,
them i run again the command but using the flag -u user-x:

root#crontab -u user-x /var/cron/tabs/user-x_crontab_file

My cron program is running, i stop and restart the cron daemon but
still dont see any answer.

I read some mails from this list but my system still dont run my test job.

I forget something...? Thanks for your time.

Running FreeBSD_5.4-p16.
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Re: LDAP Thunderbird and security (OFF)

2006-07-17 Thread Nagy László Zsolt



First, OpenLDAP isn't easy to set up; but it's worth the trouble.
You should probably move this to the openldap list, or the thunderbird
list, since it really has nothing to do with FreeBSD.
Yes, this is (OFF), see the subject. Unfortunately, the openldap mailing 
list is not active. I could hardly subscribe, and then nobody answered.


I have Thurderbird reading my directory, but I haven't worked on
getting Thunderbird to write to an LDAP directory. You need to set up
your LDAP with TLS and the proper ACLs; and depending on your
situation you may want a seperate ou for the address book. Maybe even
a seperate ou for each user (ouch). No special schema required, it
should read the standard mail, phone, etc attributes. Check the
LDAP RFCs for a complete list.



Well, after a day messing with these, I tried to find other solutions. 
Here is what I found:


http://www.gargan.org/extensions/synckolab.html

It is not perfect, because you need to press a button to synchronize. 
But it is easy to install, and it uses the already existing IMAP server.


Thank you

  Laszlo

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Re: User crontab file dosent run...?

2006-07-17 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-07-17 10:17, perikillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi people.
 
  Im testing how to run scripts from cron using the crontab program,
 the handbook say tha each user need to have a crontab file if they
 want to run some process with the cron program:
 
 user-x$ crontab -e
 
 SHELL=/bin/sh
 PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
 MAILTO=root
 */1 *   *   *   *   user-x /bin/echo Testing

The /etc/crontab file is *NOT* the same as the user crontab files.

It has an extra field, at column 6, which specifies which user this
entry will run as.

In user crontabs, the sixth field is the command-name, as below:

| $ crontab -l
| PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/bin:/home/giorgos/bin
| 
| # Email me calendar entries at 00:00 every day
| @daily  /usr/bin/calendar
| 
| # Save backup copies of my Mercurial repositories in /g/repos
| 0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * */home/giorgos/cron.d/repos-gker
| 
| # Save backup copies of my Mercurial repositories in /g/repos
| #3,13,23,33,43,53 * * * *   /home/giorgos/cron.d/repos-bmi
| 
| # Rotate all log files under `/home/giorgos/log', according to the
| # options specified in the `/home/giorgos/log/newsyslog.conf' file.
| #8,18,28,38,48,58 * * * *   /home/giorgos/cron.d/logrotate
| $

So, your user crontab entry tries to run a command called `user-x',
which does not exist of course...

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Re: User crontab file dosent run...?

2006-07-17 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 17), perikillo said:
 Hi people.
 
  Im testing how to run scripts from cron using the crontab program,
 the handbook say tha each user need to have a crontab file if they
 want to run some process with the cron program:
 
 user-x$ crontab -e
 
 SHELL=/bin/sh
 PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
 MAILTO=root
 */1 *   *   *   *   user-x /bin/echo Testing

User crontabs don't have a username column.  Remove user-x from the
above line and it should work.

You should still have gotten an error message emailed to root,
something like user-x: not found.  Maybe looking at /var/log/cron
will help.

-- 
Dan Nelson
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Re: 6.1-RELEASE-i386 man broken?

2006-07-17 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Monday 17 July 2006 03:49, J wrote:
 On 2006-07-14 (Fri) 06:55:28 [+], Matthew Seaman wrote:
  J wrote:

 ...

   FreeBSD, recently, as my transported Linux bash configs contained
   MANPATH=$MANPATH:/custom/manpath. What I never figured out was the
   rationale for this. Anyone mind me asking what's wrong with MANPATH or
   why manpath.config is exclusively favored? For instance, while I have a
   /usr/lib/man.conf on my Linux system and can set the default manpath
   there, man happily coexists with any MANPATH. How does one add a custom
   manpath without root privileges? Etc. Just curious; thanks.
 
  The manpath(1) program is designed to provide standard system-wide
  operation of the man(1) command.  It covers all of the places the
  ports system will put manpages and all of the system manpages.  That
  is generally sufficient for most sites.
 
  If you have a customised directory layout and start putting man pages in
  unusual places, then you've got two choices.  If these oddly located man
  pages are for general consumption, then add the appropriate info to
  /etc/manpath.config -- by editing that one file you will make those
  manpages visible immediately to all users on the system.
 
  Otherwise if you have your own private stache of manpages you should
  set MANPATH in your shell initialization scripts.  However, you should
  not assume that MANPATH is already set so that you can just append to
  it. To get the best of both worlds, set your local $MANPATH based on the
  output of manpath(1).  For Bourne-type shells, something like:
 
  MANPATH=${MANPATH:-$(manpath)}:/foo/bar/man:/baz/quux/man
  export MANPATH
 
  Or to ignore any previous setting of MANPATH in the environment:
 
  MANPATH=$( unset MANPATH ; manpath ):/foo/bar/man:/baz/quux/man
  export MANPATH
 
  csh equivalents are left as an exercise for the student.

 Thanks for your time and reply. I'm afraid I'm still failing to see the
 special advantage in the 'MANPATH-produces-warning' method, but I
 suppose it's a 'when in Rome'. :)
 ___


this one has me totally stumped.  i have read and re-read this thread so many 
times hopeing that i missed some important clue.  i have 2 6.1 systems, one 
STABLE, and one RELENG (actually, i have i have about 6 RELENG systems, and 
just 1 STABLE).  the STABLE is exhibiting the:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ man man
No manual entry for man

...behavior, but ive been thru checking all the configs, and i cant find whats 
different.  i have the same .bashrc file on each one (just 3 alias and 1 
console colors line, thats it.. no paths or other variables are changed).  
all my RELENG boxes will do man pages just fine.  here is a brief comparison 
of the things suggested in this thread, between my STABLE and one of my 
RELENG's:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /etc/manpath.config | egrep -v '^#'
MANDATORY_MANPATH   /usr/share/man
MANDATORY_MANPATH   /usr/share/openssl/man
OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/local/man
OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/X11R6/man
MANPATH_MAP /bin/usr/share/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin/usr/share/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin  /usr/local/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/X11R6/bin  /usr/X11R6/man
OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/man
OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/perl/man
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ manpath
/usr/share/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/X11R6/man:/usr/share/openssl/man:/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/man:/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/perl/man


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cat /etc/manpath.config | egrep -v '^#'
MANDATORY_MANPATH   /usr/share/man
MANDATORY_MANPATH   /usr/share/openssl/man
OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/local/man
OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/X11R6/man
MANPATH_MAP /bin/usr/share/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin/usr/share/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin  /usr/local/man
MANPATH_MAP /usr/X11R6/bin  /usr/X11R6/man
OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/man
OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/perl/man
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ manpath
Warning: couldn't stat file /usr/X11R6/man!
/usr/share/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/share/openssl/man:/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/man:/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/perl/man

the RELENG appears to not be happy about the mans for x11, but other than 
that, all the manuals work on all my RELENG boxes, and my STABLE is the only 
one that does not.

i throw my hands in the air... completely stumped.  of course, all my RELENGs 
are servers, and my 1 STABLE box is my workstation (with KDE, and i dont 
exactly recall at what point i noticed that man pages were no longer 
working).  if anyone has any advice to offer me, i would greatly appreciate 
it.

thanks,
jonathan
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is my materiel ok ?

2006-07-17 Thread Seb
Here is my question in english :
I'm Newbie in BSD.
I've bought a server DELL SC1420 Xeon 2.8GHz with a controller card RAID CERC 
SATA six canal
I want to know if this material is compatible with FreeBsd 6.1. J've not seen 
this material in the list of materiel compatible so i'm not sure.
Could you help me ?
Thanks in advance.

Sébastien.

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Connection of adapter USB-COM for mobile Siemens C55

2006-07-17 Thread Сергей
Hello!

I'm traying to connect GPRS via adapter USB-COM for mobile Siemens C55.
But i don't know how to send a command to the adapter.

FreeBSD6.0-RELEASE

Make kernel with:

#USB support
device  uhci
device  ochi
device  echi
device  usb
device  ugen
device  uhid
device  ucom
device  uplcom
device  umodem


When connecting the adapter:
ucom0: Prolific Technology Inc. USB-Serial Controller, rev 1.10/3.00, addr 2

But there is no /dev/ - ucom0 in the list. How to go to the adapter?

When disconnection:
ucom0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected
All thread purged from cuaU0
All thread purged from ttyU0
ucom0: detached

-
Sergey.


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radeon option agpmode 4 hangs system

2006-07-17 Thread Gobbledegeek

After  a long search and  no  solution in  sight,  I  have  to ask here -
many people  have  reported  this problem, the xorg  developers
deliberately default to  agpmode  1x because they  know it hangs
unpredictably otherwise.  The problem  has  been  around  for a few
years now.

Am  I stuck with  agp mode  1x  for  good?   I'm  sorry I  brought  a
radeon  in  the first  place.  Pay for mobike  but  ride a
bullock-cart!

Googlers! Don't  buy radeon folks! You've been  warned!

Rgrds

PS:  please cc me as  I'm not subscribed.
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Re: USB and 6.1-RELEASE

2006-07-17 Thread Micah

Rich Demanowski wrote:

Micah wrote:

Rich Demanowski wrote:
scbus, da, pass, ohci, uhci, ehci, usb, udbp, ugen, uhid, ukbd, ulpt, 
umass, ums, ural, urio and uscanner are all enabled in the running 
kernel's /usr/src/sys/i386/conf config file.  usbd is not running.  
When  I try to start usbd I get the following:

   No USB host controllers found.

There are no usb* devices listed in /dev.

in dmesg I get the following with regard to ohci0 and ehci0:
   ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xfe02f000-0xfe02 
at device 11.0 on pci0

   pcib0: unable to route slot 11 INTA
   ohci0: Could not allocate irq
   device_attach: ohci0 attach returned 6
   ehci0: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller mem 
0xfe02e000-0xfe02e0ff at device 1 1.1 on pci0

   pcib0: unable to route slot 11 INTB
   ehci0: Could not allocate irq
   device_attach: ehci0 attach returned 6


When I plug the drive into any of the USB ports on the system, 
nothing happens in dmesg or /var/log/messages.  camcontrol devlist 
lists no devices.


I'm a bit confused as to why my USB keyboard and mouse function, but 
my thumb drive will not.


It's likely that your BIOS has legacy support enabled in which case, 
as far as FreeBSD is concerned, you actually have a regular keyboard 
and mouse. That would explain why the mouse and keyboard work while 
other USB items do not. From the messages you gave, it's clear that 
FreeBSB is unable to connect to the USB controller. Disabling legacy 
support in the BIOS may help. Otherwise check your BIOS for other USB 
related settings and try changing those.


Indeed, legacy support is enabled (actually auto was the setting in 
the BIOS).  When I disable it, the keyboard and mouse cease functioning, 
as well.  That was the only setting I could find in the BIOS related to 
USB.


I suppose that means the on-board USB controller is one not supported by 
existing drivers?  Or at least ones not listed in the  GENERIC config on 
which  I based my kernel (all  I added was the ath drivers for my 
wireless)?  I don't know which chipset it is, but my guess is, since the 
on-board video and LAN is an nVidia chipset, that the USB controller 
probably is, as well.


Based on the error messages I think it's still worth trying some 
different settings. FeeeBSD seems to recognize the controller but it is 
unable to allocate the right resources to it. Check your BIOS for a PnP 
OS setting and toggle it. Also, try booting with ACPI disabled (or 
enabled) from the FreeBSD boot menu. IIRC, ACPI can have a hand in 
routing resources.


HTH,
Micah
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Re: radeon option agpmode 4 hangs system

2006-07-17 Thread Derek Ragona
Do you have the agp kernel module not loaded?  In 6.x there are known 
problems with the agp kernel module which is compiled in by default.  If 
you haven't tried removing it, try that.


-Derek


At 02:15 PM 7/17/2006, Gobbledegeek wrote:

After  a long search and  no  solution in  sight,  I  have  to ask here -
many people  have  reported  this problem, the xorg  developers
deliberately default to  agpmode  1x because they  know it hangs
unpredictably otherwise.  The problem  has  been  around  for a few
years now.

Am  I stuck with  agp mode  1x  for  good?   I'm  sorry I  brought  a
radeon  in  the first  place.  Pay for mobike  but  ride a
bullock-cart!

Googlers! Don't  buy radeon folks! You've been  warned!

Rgrds

PS:  please cc me as  I'm not subscribed.
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Re: is my materiel ok ?

2006-07-17 Thread jan gestre

On 7/18/06, Seb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Here is my question in english :
I'm Newbie in BSD.
I've bought a server DELL SC1420 Xeon 2.8GHz with a controller card RAID
CERC SATA six canal
I want to know if this material is compatible with FreeBsd 6.1. J've not
seen this material in the list of materiel compatible so i'm not sure.
Could you help me ?
Thanks in advance.

i have a hp proliant server with intel xeon 3ghz + SATA RAID, i have
installed freebsd 6.1 and so far i have no problems. just boot your
freebsd cd and see what happens, during sysintall you will know if it
detected all your devices especially your hard drive. i recommend you read
the handbook first, all the information you need regarding installation and
configuration is very well documented.




HTH
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Re: top and multiple CPU's

2006-07-17 Thread jan gestre

On 7/14/06, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Bob Johnson wrote:
 I don't have a 6.1 SMP system
 to test it on.


On a brand nwe 6,1 SMP system the first 2 lines of top -S

PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE  SIZERES STATE  C  TIME   WCPUCOMMAND
11 root1 171   52 0K 8K RUN1  36.8H 90.38% idle:cpu1
12 root1 171   52 0K 8K RUN0  36.1H 90.33% idle:cpu0

[...]

757 bob 1  960 26128K 12340K CPU0   0  27:30  2.05% Xorg
797 bob 1  960 28976K  8424K select 1  46:19  0.73% kdeinit

i have 6.1 installed and this is the snippet of top -S


PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
  12 root   1 171   52 0K 8K CPU2   2 100.8H 99.02% idle:
cpu2
  11 root   1 171   52 0K 8K CPU3   0   0:00 99.02% idle:
cpu3
  13 root   1 171   52 0K 8K CPU1   0   0:00 99.02% idle:
cpu1
  14 root   1 171   52 0K 8K RUN0 100.0H 98.97% idle:
cpu0
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Re: USB and 6.1-RELEASE

2006-07-17 Thread Rich Demanowski

Micah wrote:

Rich Demanowski wrote:

Micah wrote:

Rich Demanowski wrote:
scbus, da, pass, ohci, uhci, ehci, usb, udbp, ugen, uhid, ukbd, 
ulpt, umass, ums, ural, urio and uscanner are all enabled in the 
running kernel's /usr/src/sys/i386/conf config file.  usbd is not 
running.  When  I try to start usbd I get the following:

   No USB host controllers found.

There are no usb* devices listed in /dev.

in dmesg I get the following with regard to ohci0 and ehci0:
   ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xfe02f000-0xfe02 
at device 11.0 on pci0

   pcib0: unable to route slot 11 INTA
   ohci0: Could not allocate irq
   device_attach: ohci0 attach returned 6
   ehci0: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller mem 
0xfe02e000-0xfe02e0ff at device 1 1.1 on pci0

   pcib0: unable to route slot 11 INTB
   ehci0: Could not allocate irq
   device_attach: ehci0 attach returned 6


When I plug the drive into any of the USB ports on the system, 
nothing happens in dmesg or /var/log/messages.  camcontrol devlist 
lists no devices.


I'm a bit confused as to why my USB keyboard and mouse function, 
but my thumb drive will not.


It's likely that your BIOS has legacy support enabled in which 
case, as far as FreeBSD is concerned, you actually have a regular 
keyboard and mouse. That would explain why the mouse and keyboard 
work while other USB items do not. From the messages you gave, it's 
clear that FreeBSB is unable to connect to the USB controller. 
Disabling legacy support in the BIOS may help. Otherwise check your 
BIOS for other USB related settings and try changing those.


Indeed, legacy support is enabled (actually auto was the setting in 
the BIOS).  When I disable it, the keyboard and mouse cease 
functioning, as well.  That was the only setting I could find in the 
BIOS related to USB.


I suppose that means the on-board USB controller is one not supported 
by existing drivers?  Or at least ones not listed in the  GENERIC 
config on which  I based my kernel (all  I added was the ath drivers 
for my wireless)?  I don't know which chipset it is, but my guess is, 
since the on-board video and LAN is an nVidia chipset, that the USB 
controller probably is, as well.


Based on the error messages I think it's still worth trying some 
different settings. FeeeBSD seems to recognize the controller but it 
is unable to allocate the right resources to it. Check your BIOS for a 
PnP OS setting and toggle it. Also, try booting with ACPI disabled 
(or enabled) from the FreeBSD boot menu. IIRC, ACPI can have a hand in 
routing resources.


HTH,
Micah
ACPI is turned off.  The install disc wouldn't even boot at all with it 
turned on.


I'll try the Plug-and-play OS setting.  It's currently on.
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Re: LinkLib Issues In freebsd Lazarus

2006-07-17 Thread Bob
Mike Meyer wrote:

 
 It's *really* unusual for a port to install a binary tarball if the
 source is available. Most ports that install binaries are for
 commercial products for which source isn't available.
 

In this case, the unusual rules. Here are the contents of the ports
binary.i386-freebsd.tar
demo.tar.gz
doc-pdf.tar.gz
install.sh

 
 A port is basically a Makefile plus at least some text files. The
 ports tree includes a lot of make machinery to
 fetch/extract/patch/build/etc. based on that. See the porters handbook
 at URL:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html
 for details.


Thanks Mike.

I have been involved in a parallel discussion on the fpc-devel list, and
have discovered a few facts which will impact the manufacture of a
freepascal Lazarus port. In fact, what I have learned will impact the
usability of FPC on freepascal itself.

The problem which initiated this thread was the wrong naming of some
libraries. Well, it turns out that this renaming was done mid-stream by
the freebsd development team, and not by the freepascal folks.

It seems that from freebsd 6.0 to freebsd 6.1 (the one I am using)
library names were arbitrarily changed. The ones I ran into were libgdk,
libgtk, and libglib. In all previous versions (prior to 6.1) of freebsd,
the lib versions 1.2 were named libgdk12, libgtk12, and libglib12 they
were changed in 6.1 to libgdk-12, libgtk-12, and libglib-12
respectively. I wonder how many more library names were changed? This is
a real blow to any third party software developer, who's software will
likely start to bomb on freebsd6.1, where it ran just fine on 6.0

BIG problem! If I compile a program on my 6.1 system, which makes any
dynamic calls to these libraries (and possibly others as yet unknown),
that executable will ONLY run on freebsd 6.1, and bomb on all prior
versions. My fix of patching the freepascal 2.0.2, or your method of
sym-linking, while fixing the local problem of compiling Lazarus, breaks
all portability to previous freebsd installs. This is a bad thing the
freebsd folks have done!

There are some dirty work-arounds, and according to the fpc developers,
they will be implementing some new tools to deal with this in fpc-2.0.4,
who's rc2 has just been released.

I can see making these kinds of changes from a 5.x version to a 6.x
version, as bad as even that would be, but to make such a change from
within the 6.x branch is pretty inconsiderate IMHO.

Given the above, it would be senseless to create a port of lazarus,
which would require a port of the patched fpc sources, (as a
dependency), and then have a development system which was tied to a
particular version of freebsd.

Bob

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Re: USB and 6.1-RELEASE

2006-07-17 Thread Micah

Rich Demanowski wrote:

Micah wrote:

Rich Demanowski wrote:

Micah wrote:

Rich Demanowski wrote:
scbus, da, pass, ohci, uhci, ehci, usb, udbp, ugen, uhid, ukbd, 
ulpt, umass, ums, ural, urio and uscanner are all enabled in the 
running kernel's /usr/src/sys/i386/conf config file.  usbd is not 
running.  When  I try to start usbd I get the following:

   No USB host controllers found.

There are no usb* devices listed in /dev.

in dmesg I get the following with regard to ohci0 and ehci0:
   ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xfe02f000-0xfe02 
at device 11.0 on pci0

   pcib0: unable to route slot 11 INTA
   ohci0: Could not allocate irq
   device_attach: ohci0 attach returned 6
   ehci0: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller mem 
0xfe02e000-0xfe02e0ff at device 1 1.1 on pci0

   pcib0: unable to route slot 11 INTB
   ehci0: Could not allocate irq
   device_attach: ehci0 attach returned 6


When I plug the drive into any of the USB ports on the system, 
nothing happens in dmesg or /var/log/messages.  camcontrol devlist 
lists no devices.


I'm a bit confused as to why my USB keyboard and mouse function, 
but my thumb drive will not.


It's likely that your BIOS has legacy support enabled in which 
case, as far as FreeBSD is concerned, you actually have a regular 
keyboard and mouse. That would explain why the mouse and keyboard 
work while other USB items do not. From the messages you gave, it's 
clear that FreeBSB is unable to connect to the USB controller. 
Disabling legacy support in the BIOS may help. Otherwise check your 
BIOS for other USB related settings and try changing those.


Indeed, legacy support is enabled (actually auto was the setting in 
the BIOS).  When I disable it, the keyboard and mouse cease 
functioning, as well.  That was the only setting I could find in the 
BIOS related to USB.


I suppose that means the on-board USB controller is one not supported 
by existing drivers?  Or at least ones not listed in the  GENERIC 
config on which  I based my kernel (all  I added was the ath drivers 
for my wireless)?  I don't know which chipset it is, but my guess is, 
since the on-board video and LAN is an nVidia chipset, that the USB 
controller probably is, as well.


Based on the error messages I think it's still worth trying some 
different settings. FeeeBSD seems to recognize the controller but it 
is unable to allocate the right resources to it. Check your BIOS for a 
PnP OS setting and toggle it. Also, try booting with ACPI disabled 
(or enabled) from the FreeBSD boot menu. IIRC, ACPI can have a hand in 
routing resources.


HTH,
Micah
OK, disabling Plug-n-Play OS *and* USB legacy support now has the system 
recognizing the USB controllers.  It also seems to have fixed the odd 
CAPSLOCK character duplication I was getting, and my mouse scroll wheel 
now works.


Now I'm on to another issue.

When I plug in the thumb drive, which is a 512MB USB 2.0 Mobile 
Swingdrive, containing an MS-DOS filesystem, I get the following:

   umass0: vendor 0x0930 USB Flash Memory, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2
   da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
   da0:  USB Flash Memory 1.04 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device
   da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
   da0: 489MB (1001472 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 489C)
   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi 
status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi 
status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi 
status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi 
status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi 
status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi 
status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi 
status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi 
status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi 
status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi 
status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi 
status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi 
status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, scsi 
status == 0x0


mount /dev/da0 /thumb yields the error:
   mount: /dev/da0 on /thumb: incorrect super block

mount -t msdos 

Re: USB and 6.1-RELEASE

2006-07-17 Thread Rich Demanowski

Micah wrote:

Rich Demanowski wrote:

Micah wrote:

Rich Demanowski wrote:

Micah wrote:

Rich Demanowski wrote:
scbus, da, pass, ohci, uhci, ehci, usb, udbp, ugen, uhid, ukbd, 
ulpt, umass, ums, ural, urio and uscanner are all enabled in the 
running kernel's /usr/src/sys/i386/conf config file.  usbd is not 
running.  When  I try to start usbd I get the following:

   No USB host controllers found.

There are no usb* devices listed in /dev.

in dmesg I get the following with regard to ohci0 and ehci0:
   ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 
0xfe02f000-0xfe02 at device 11.0 on pci0

   pcib0: unable to route slot 11 INTA
   ohci0: Could not allocate irq
   device_attach: ohci0 attach returned 6
   ehci0: EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller mem 
0xfe02e000-0xfe02e0ff at device 1 1.1 on pci0

   pcib0: unable to route slot 11 INTB
   ehci0: Could not allocate irq
   device_attach: ehci0 attach returned 6


When I plug the drive into any of the USB ports on the system, 
nothing happens in dmesg or /var/log/messages.  camcontrol 
devlist lists no devices.


I'm a bit confused as to why my USB keyboard and mouse function, 
but my thumb drive will not.


It's likely that your BIOS has legacy support enabled in which 
case, as far as FreeBSD is concerned, you actually have a regular 
keyboard and mouse. That would explain why the mouse and keyboard 
work while other USB items do not. From the messages you gave, 
it's clear that FreeBSB is unable to connect to the USB 
controller. Disabling legacy support in the BIOS may help. 
Otherwise check your BIOS for other USB related settings and try 
changing those.


Indeed, legacy support is enabled (actually auto was the setting 
in the BIOS).  When I disable it, the keyboard and mouse cease 
functioning, as well.  That was the only setting I could find in 
the BIOS related to USB.


I suppose that means the on-board USB controller is one not 
supported by existing drivers?  Or at least ones not listed in the  
GENERIC config on which  I based my kernel (all  I added was the 
ath drivers for my wireless)?  I don't know which chipset it is, 
but my guess is, since the on-board video and LAN is an nVidia 
chipset, that the USB controller probably is, as well.


Based on the error messages I think it's still worth trying some 
different settings. FeeeBSD seems to recognize the controller but it 
is unable to allocate the right resources to it. Check your BIOS for 
a PnP OS setting and toggle it. Also, try booting with ACPI 
disabled (or enabled) from the FreeBSD boot menu. IIRC, ACPI can 
have a hand in routing resources.


HTH,
Micah
OK, disabling Plug-n-Play OS *and* USB legacy support now has the 
system recognizing the USB controllers.  It also seems to have fixed 
the odd CAPSLOCK character duplication I was getting, and my mouse 
scroll wheel now works.


Now I'm on to another issue.

When I plug in the thumb drive, which is a 512MB USB 2.0 Mobile 
Swingdrive, containing an MS-DOS filesystem, I get the following:

   umass0: vendor 0x0930 USB Flash Memory, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2
   da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
   da0:  USB Flash Memory 1.04 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device
   da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
   da0: 489MB (1001472 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 489C)
   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, 
scsi status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, 
scsi status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, 
scsi status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, 
scsi status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, 
scsi status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, 
scsi status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, 
scsi status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, 
scsi status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, 
scsi status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, 
scsi status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, 
scsi status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, 
scsi status == 0x0

   umass0: Phase Error, residue = 0
   (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4, 
scsi status == 0x0


mount /dev/da0 /thumb yields the error:
   mount: /dev/da0 on /thumb: incorrect super block


Re: LinkLib Issues In freebsd Lazarus

2006-07-17 Thread Mike Meyer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
 I have been involved in a parallel discussion on the fpc-devel list, and
 have discovered a few facts which will impact the manufacture of a
 freepascal Lazarus port. In fact, what I have learned will impact the
 usability of FPC on freepascal itself.
 
 The problem which initiated this thread was the wrong naming of some
 libraries. Well, it turns out that this renaming was done mid-stream by
 the freebsd development team, and not by the freepascal folks.
 
 It seems that from freebsd 6.0 to freebsd 6.1 (the one I am using)
 library names were arbitrarily changed. The ones I ran into were libgdk,
 libgtk, and libglib. In all previous versions (prior to 6.1) of freebsd,
 the lib versions 1.2 were named libgdk12, libgtk12, and libglib12 they
 were changed in 6.1 to libgdk-12, libgtk-12, and libglib-12
 respectively. I wonder how many more library names were changed? This is
 a real blow to any third party software developer, who's software will
 likely start to bomb on freebsd6.1, where it ran just fine on 6.0

I can't help with this. I have no idea why it was done - it certainly
wasn't discussed on -hackers.

 BIG problem! If I compile a program on my 6.1 system, which makes any
 dynamic calls to these libraries (and possibly others as yet unknown),
 that executable will ONLY run on freebsd 6.1, and bomb on all prior
 versions. My fix of patching the freepascal 2.0.2, or your method of
 sym-linking, while fixing the local problem of compiling Lazarus, breaks
 all portability to previous freebsd installs. This is a bad thing the
 freebsd folks have done!

Well, one solution is to distribute sources - which works especially
well if you provide a port. See below for more on that.

If you want to distribute binaries, you could simply include the
correct libraries in your tarball, and only install them if they
aren't installed.

 There are some dirty work-arounds, and according to the fpc developers,
 they will be implementing some new tools to deal with this in fpc-2.0.4,
 who's rc2 has just been released.
 
 I can see making these kinds of changes from a 5.x version to a 6.x
 version, as bad as even that would be, but to make such a change from
 within the 6.x branch is pretty inconsiderate IMHO.
 
 Given the above, it would be senseless to create a port of lazarus,
 which would require a port of the patched fpc sources, (as a
 dependency), and then have a development system which was tied to a
 particular version of freebsd.

No, it's not senseless. You can *ask* the various libraries what they
need, by runnig gdk-pixbuf-config --libs, for example. However, you
shouldn't need to do that. Adding something like USE_GNOME=gdkpixbuf
to your port Makefile will cause the Makefile to add all the
appropriate dependencies to CFLAGS.

Except you may not use CFLAGS, and may have to go back to
gdk-pixbuf-config to get the data you need. You may even need to tweak
the output to make it accpetable to fpc.

Basically, this change is only really painfull if you want to
distribute binaries. In that case, you could, as mentioned
above,distribute binaries of the libraries as well.  Or you could not
support anything prior to 6.1 (actually, that's not correct - my 5.5
system has the new library naming).  Or - since this change is in the
ports system, not FreeBSD proper, and the ports tree can be updated
independently of the base system, require that 6.0 users update their
ports tree and the libraries in question.

Please note, I'm not trying to defend or justify this change - you
pointing it out is the first I'd heard of it. I'm just trying to point
out some ways you can deal with it.

mike
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Re: LinkLib Issues In freebsd Lazarus

2006-07-17 Thread Bob
Mike Meyer wrote:

 Well, one solution is to distribute sources - which works especially
 well if you provide a port. See below for more on that.
 

Yes, but the sources Makefile would have to be not only version aware,
but also port-status aware as well, and then call ld with the proper
args. Worse, if 6.5 comes out, and the libs are renamed to libgdk.1.2.0
for instance, then no one will know what to look for until something
breaks.

 If you want to distribute binaries, you could simply include the
 correct libraries in your tarball, and only install them if they
 aren't installed.
 

Actually, my first thought would be to check whether or not the old
lib-name was there, and, if so simply ln -s old-lib new-lib via the
install script; something I believe the development team should have
done when they changed the names, simply to maintain backwards
compatibility. However, I don't know what effect this would have on a
port upgrade, (I am a newbie on day 10 of FreeBSD) if the upgrade finds
the new-lib-name as a link? Barf-Time?

FreeBSD is not limited to software available through the ports
collection alone, nor should it be.

 I'm just trying to point
 out some ways you can deal with it.
 

Yes, and thanks! I think I will ask what the lead time is on the
FPC-2.0.4 release. If it will be soon, and if this issue is resolved,
then I will simply start over at that point :-) Otherwise, I will have
to rethink how to deal with this in the long run. Thanks for your many
suggestions, and for your help!

Bob




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Re: [bugs] SMP, KDE3 and OpenOffice

2006-07-17 Thread Rob Hurle
Hi Andrew,

Thanks for your reply:

 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:35:50 +1000
 From: Andrew Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
 On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 03:12:49PM +1000, Rob Hurle wrote:
  I'm trying to set up FreeBSD on my box, which has an Intel
  D945GNT motherboard, two 3.2GHz processors, 1GB memory.  The system
  installs OK and I've been able to use cvsup to upgrade everything,
  remake the kernel (for SMP), build OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 KDE 3.5.

 Just to clarify, are those processors amd64/em64, or ia32?  Are
 you running a 32-bit or 64-bit system on them?  Aah.  I see from
 your uname, below, that you're running i386 code.  That should
 remove a few potential pitfalls.

They are supposed to be ia32, but here is part of the dmesg output
(I don't quite understand all of this):

...
  AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM
  Logical CPUs per core: 2
real memory  = 1072087040 (1022 MB)
avail memory = 1039990784 (991 MB)
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0: INTEL D945GNT on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
...

  1.  Only one processor seems to be used.  The output from top -S is:
 
   PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
 11 root  1 171   52 0K 8K CPU1   0   0:00 99.02% idle: 
  cpu1
 12 root  1 171   52 0K 8K RUN0 139:40 98.34% idle: 
  cpu0

 It seems to me that the FreeBSD scheduler is pretty keen on
 processor affinity, which is a good thing.  My AMD-X2 dual core
 system has been up a good deal longer than yours, but the idle
 times are still fairly different:

 root  12 99.0  0.0 016  ??  RL8Jul06 9797:24.05 [idle: cpu0]
 root  11 98.5  0.0 016  ??  RL8Jul06 11206:02.27 [idle: cpu1]

Hmm, yes.  Maybe I don't have a problem.  I haven't yet stretched it,
although I noticed while building a new kernel - which I did the old
way, before reading UPDATING :-( - that there was no activity on the
other CPU.

  3.  OpenOffice.org does not like any of the files produced from
  anywhere else.  I have stuff written in StarOffice 5.2 and in MS Word,
  but none of these will open.  Even stuff written using OpenOffice.org
  2 on a MS system is not acceptable.  The error is always General I/O
  Error.  OpenOffice will read files that it has written quite OK and
  permissions, ownership, etc all seem to be OK.

 I believe that most of the OOo file import functionality is
 provided by Java modules, and it will successfully build without
 this functionality if you don't have or don't want to run Java.
 Do you have a working native Java implementation?  You might
 need to get Java going before building (or re-building) OOo.

Yes, I was aware of this, and installed jdk1.4.2 and jdk1.5.0 before
building OOo.  I built 1.4.2 first, but I think jdk 1.5.0 is the
native FreeBSD one?  However, I noticed today that there is a
src.zip file in the jdk1.5.0 directory.  I unzipped this, and maybe
I now need to rebuild OOo.  I'll try this when I get some time.

Thanks again for your help.

Cheers,

Rob Hurle
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How to let USB WLAN adapters (AirVast) to work on FreeBSD

2006-07-17 Thread nectar76


Hi, runing FreeBSD 5.4, but I can't acess Internet :(, because I failed to  
let my wireless (USB) Car to work on FreeBSD.


I saw this information at 'dmesg':
ugen0: AirVast Taiwan IEEE 802.11b USB, rev1.10/1.32

I read 'wi' support Intersil Prism-3, so I want to 'kldload if_wi', but it  
answered me 'pccard and pci's wi already exists'.


I tired to use 'atuwi' which is 'A FreeBSD driver for Atmel based USB WLAN  
adapters' (links:http://vitsch.net/bsd/atuwi/)

,but don't compile success.

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Re: How to let USB WLAN adapters (AirVast) to work on FreeBSD

2006-07-17 Thread शंतनु (Shantanoo)

On 7/18/06, nectar76 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi, runing FreeBSD 5.4, but I can't acess Internet :(, because I failed to
let my wireless (USB) Car to work on FreeBSD.

I saw this information at 'dmesg':
ugen0: AirVast Taiwan IEEE 802.11b USB, rev1.10/1.32

I read 'wi' support Intersil Prism-3, so I want to 'kldload if_wi', but it
answered me 'pccard and pci's wi already exists'.

I tired to use 'atuwi' which is 'A FreeBSD driver for Atmel based USB WLAN
adapters' (links:http://vitsch.net/bsd/atuwi/)
,but don't compile success.



You may try ndis wrapper.

शंतनु
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Problem in Starting KDE

2006-07-17 Thread Sean M.
I run FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE. About a week ago, I made the egregious
mistake of deleting the '/var/db/pkg' directory, so I had no choice but
to portmanager everything back (I build from ports). This wasn't
actually so bad since I didn't have CXXFLAGS configured the first time,
so at least now I would get optimized binaries (as an aside,  are '-O9
-march=athlon-xp -mfpmath=sse' the best options for a Duron(TM)
~1000MHz?).

But now, I am having major problems starting KDE (3.5.3):
1) When I run 'startx' from the shell, the screen clicks into video
mode, I see the X black-and-white wallpaper for an instant, then it
turns black with the 'X'-mouse (it's responsive), and stays that way
forever, until I kill X. I captured the tty output: 

==
xauth:  creating new authority file /root/.serverauth.7480
/usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name Compy:0 in list
command
/usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: (stdin):1:  bad display name Compy:0 in add
command


X Window System Version 6.9.0
Release Date: 21 December 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.9
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.1 i386 [ELF] 
Current Operating System: FreeBSD Compy 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE
#1: Tue Jul  4 20:39:59 PDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MYKERNEL i386
Build Date: 14 July 2006
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
to make sure that 
you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon Jul 17 19:20:23 2006
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.
kbuildsycoca running...
# N.B. this is where the screen switches. The following lines come
# only after killing X.
kdeinit: Shutting down running client.
FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ refcount is 2,
should be 1; fixing.
/usr/X11R6/bin/xinit:  connection to X server lost.
Hangup
GOT SIGHUP
/usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name Compy:0 in remove
command
xset:  unable to open display :0
startkde: Starting up...
kdeinit: Shutting down running client.
ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 7531, errno = 22
Terminated
startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
Terminated
startkde: Shutting down...
Terminated
unix_connect: can't connect to server
(unix:/tmp/ksocket-root/Compy-114e5-44b7aac1)
startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
startkde: Done.
==

2) I can start X with 'xinit', and this is fine. I can then issue
'kdeinit', which gives a ton of kbuildsycoca: WARNING: foo specifies
undefined mimetype/servicetype bar lines. Then I can do 'kwrapper
ksmserver', and that'll give me the familiar window frames, but not
any aspect of the desktop.


Does anyone have any advice?

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Re: Connection of adapter USB-COM for mobile Siemens C55

2006-07-17 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 7/17/06, Сергей [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello!

I'm traying to connect GPRS via adapter USB-COM for mobile Siemens C55.
But i don't know how to send a command to the adapter.

FreeBSD6.0-RELEASE

Make kernel with:

#USB support
device  uhci
device  ochi
device  echi
device  usb
device  ugen
device  uhid
device  ucom
device  uplcom
device  umodem


When connecting the adapter:
ucom0: Prolific Technology Inc. USB-Serial Controller, rev 1.10/3.00, addr 2

But there is no /dev/ - ucom0 in the list. How to go to the adapter?

When disconnection:
ucom0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected
All thread purged from == cuaU0 ==
All thread purged from == ttyU0 ==
ucom0: detached


I guess if you don't have any other serial ports, you get cuaU0.
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Re: Problem in Starting KDE

2006-07-17 Thread Sean M.
Here is /etc/hosts. It's not very spectacular.

#
# This file should contain the addresses and aliases for local hosts
that
# share this file.  Replace 'my.domain' below with the domainname of
your
# machine.
#
# In the presence of the domain name service or NIS, this file may
# not be consulted at all; see /etc/nsswitch.conf for the resolution
order.
#
#
::1 localhost localhost.my.domain
127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.my.domain
#
# Imaginary network.
#10.0.0.2   myname.my.domain myname
#10.0.0.3   myfriend.my.domain myfriend
#
# According to RFC 1918, you can use the following IP networks for
# private nets which will never be connected to the Internet:
#
#   10.0.0.0-   10.255.255.255
#   172.16.0.0  -   172.31.255.255
#   192.168.0.0 -   192.168.255.255
#
# In case you want to be able to connect to the Internet, you need
# real official assigned numbers.  Do not try to invent your own
network
# numbers but instead get one from your network provider (if any) or
# from your regional registry (ARIN, APNIC, LACNIC, RIPE NCC, or
AfriNIC.)
#
o.com


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