Re: Cron Question
Can anyone help me with this? Thank you again. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Cron-Question-tp19272656p19343758.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which gray is best for print?
So you're saying that the white on my [monster] CRT is not the same as on a future LCD Display? rats:) Not only that, but your monster CRT probably doesn't match a smaller CRT; and an old-ish CRT whose phosphors have aged (and whose focus may have gotten a bit fuzzy) probably doesn't match a new, sharp one. Different LCDs may not match each other either, esp. if they use different backlight technologies or if some of the backlights -- or faceplates -- are subject to color shifts with age. This is due to the nature that these devices use different color spaces (RGB, composed additively, CMY, composed negatively), and most of them even aren't calibrated ... I took all 5 quarters of physics, like most of us, but never got far into optics ... and there's more involved than physics and optics anyway, e.g. the neuropsychology of human visual perception. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how do I disable the generation of XOFFs when using tip over a serial port to another device
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 12:20 -0700, Jeff Haran wrote: Dear Sirs, I have connected one of the RS232 ports of my PC with FreeBSD (v6.3) on it to a device that does not understand XON/XOFF flow control. I run the tip program to connect to that device. How do I configure tip and/or the serial port so that the FreeBSD PC will NOT send XOFFs or XONs to the device? When I run: stty -a -f /dev/cuad0 where /dev/cuad0 is the device associated with the port, it outputs (among other things): iflags: ... ixon -ixoff ... From my reading of the stty man page, I would think that means the port is already configured to not send XOFFs. Is there something I need to do to /etc/remote to tell tip to not enable XON/XOFF? Please respond to this email address as I do not subscribe to the mailing list. Thanks, Jeff Haran Hi Jeff, I think there might be a problem with the man page for tip(1) on 6.x, as an entry for 'tandem' was added to the tip sources about 2 years ago. It's in the 7.x man page as you can see at: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tipmanpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASEformat=html in 'Variables'. 'tandem' shows up in a variable listing (~v) in tip on a 6.x system I have here but I don't have an appropriate set up at hand to verify that it operates correctly. Let us know how you go with it. If it works for you then a PR would be in order. Wayne [1] Extract from the tip(1) man page on 7.x: tandem (bool) Use XON/XOFF flow control to throttle data from the remote host; abbreviated ta. The default value is true unless the nt capability has been specified in /etc/remote, in which case the default value is false. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jittering sound on streaming
I am running a music station now and then and for some reason there exist a jittering sound after some hours. I think this is caused by BSD, but can't put my finger on yet. There was a thread on this some months ago but that thread didn't solve my problem. I use Icecast and/or Shoutcast for streaming. thanks for any input on this, Jos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compiling Issue
Hello thank you for reading. I've had an ongoing problem of freezing. It happens randomly, i feel, but sometimes it seems like it happens more under heavy load (but not always). I've ran numerous tests: memtest, hard drive tests, cpu load tests, basically most of the tests on Ultimate Boot CD, and they all finish successfully. Well, i've been able to reproduce the freezing during compilation of gnash, or one of its dependencies agg. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you so much in advance. john ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jittering sound on streaming
try setting rtprio on your streaming app and check if it still persist On Sat, 6 Sep 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote: I am running a music station now and then and for some reason there exist a jittering sound after some hours. I think this is caused by BSD, but can't put my finger on yet. There was a thread on this some months ago but that thread didn't solve my problem. I use Icecast and/or Shoutcast for streaming. thanks for any input on this, Jos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
switching discs during install
I just completed an install of FreeBSD 7.0 and couldn't help but wonder why it was necessary for me to switch discs back and forth so much while installing ported applications. I've used FreeBSD on and off for a number of years and this issue has always irked me a just a little bit. It means that I have to babysit the installation and it really does increase the time required to perform the installation. This is, of course, a minor issue in the grand scheme of things but it seems easy enough to remedy. I assume that as packages are installed the dependencies are checked, and then required packages are installed as necessary. When a required package is on a different disc, then the installer prompts the user to switch discs. However, it should be necessary to organize packages on the discs and during the installation such that this never occurs. In case this isn't obvious, let me give a quick supporting argument. If you were to perform an installation in which every package was installed, then the installer would eventually resolve all dependencies and produce an ordering in which every package could be installed without violating its dependencies. If we removed a package that was not required by any other package, then clearly the same ordering could still be used to install the remaining packages without violating any dependencies. By extension, any number of packages could be removed and the ordering would remain valid provided that the remaining packages did not depend on a removed package. So, if the packages are placed on the discs in this order and the installer attempts to install packages in this order, then the dependencies will always be satisfied and the user will never have to switch discs. (As an aside, this is really only to say that the dependency tree is a directional acyclic graph and it has a topological sort). There multiple orderings which satisfy this condition. Perhaps the easiest is to calculate is the ordering in which packages are sorted by the number of packages that require it. This ordering would also tend to aggregate the most common packages on the first discs. Is there a reason that this wouldn't work. Something I'm not thinking about. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: switching discs during install
James Strother wrote: I just completed an install of FreeBSD 7.0 and couldn't help but wonder why it was necessary for me to switch discs back and forth so much while installing ported applications. I've used FreeBSD on and off for a number of years and this issue has always irked me a just a little bit. It means that I have to babysit the installation and it really does increase the time required to perform the installation. SNIP Most people install only the base system from CD, then install applications from ports or download newer packages. If you insist on installing packages from the installation media, there is an easy way. Use the DVD: http://www.tuxdistro.com/download.php?id=921name=FreeBSD-7.0-RELEASE-DVD-ISO.torrent Or, create one yourself using your already downloaded discs: http://www.pa.msu.edu/~tigner/bsddvd.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which gray is best for print?
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 20:36:45 -0700, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you're saying that the white on my [monster] CRT is not the same as on a future LCD Display? rats:) Exactly. And compare the black, too, best way to differentiate with CRT and LCD side by side with a fullscreen color black. --I can't see much difference in my new laserjet from my HP500 DeskJet, but then it wasn't a main concern ... . Human perception is another thing. Just because *I* can't notice something, it doesn't imply that (1) others can't and (2) it isn't there. In order to make a human person *feel* the change of a sensory input is linear (e. g. the light intensity increases), you need to increase the actual input in a logarithmic way. http://www.neuro.uu.se/fysiologi/gu/nbb/lectures/WebFech.html I took all 5 quarters of physics, like most of us, but never got far into optics. Physics comes in 5 quarters? 5 * 0.25 = 1.25... :-) And certainly, nothing like *this*. I learned about this when I studied psychology and computational visualistics, but the RGB vs. CMY stuff (additive and subtractive color combination) was part of the basal school education in the GDR. the quality of my writing is much more important that the colors of typeface or background. I really applaud this attitude. You won't find them very often across the web, sadly, because style is more important than content. I've seen things, man, ... But this is an interesting side-bar. It's a very important topic to know about when you're doing DTP stuff. Exact color calibration is very important in this field. So you can understand why there's still a niche market for quality CRT monitors and quality printing devices. Of course, color temperatures and other settings like contrast and brightness are to be considered, too. Really! So far, in my tests [staring at a CRT], I find an off-white reads most easily against a very dark blue. 33; or whatever 66 is. Still experimenting. it's very individual how colors are percepted. If someone with deuteranopia looks at certain color combinations where others may say: Looks good!, they could say: I don't see text there. At least for printed material, black on white is good, and it even can be used for projection media (beamer). When I was at university, some guys put up a presentation with black text on dark bluie background, 10pt serife font. Bah! Unreadable in the last row. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jittering sound on streaming
Wojciech Puchar wrote: try setting rtprio on your streaming app and check if it still persist Great, that really worked! thanks for sharing, Jos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Open-vm-tools broken?
Hmm, getting this error:
Vmware: {root} % make
=== open-vm-tools-102166_2 is marked as broken: leaves files behind on
deinstall.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools.
Vmware: {root} %
Cute. I still like to run the open-vm-tools, though. Anyone know which other
version/toolset I should run then?
Thanks.
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Re: which gray is best for print?
On Sep 3, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Gary Kline wrote: This is for any webmaster types: which color gray (in hex, #xx) is best for a site that has probably very long articles? I've googled around and found various grays such as #696969 or #708090, but I haven't found anything that really fits what I want. URL, anybody? Or if there is a color-chooser in ports, that too, altho I haven't found anything in ports/x11 or ports/www. Black on white is best for readability. No question about that. See various usability studies by Jakob Nielsen others. Dark blue on white (very dark blue) is not as good, but better than the other alternatives. No reason to choose any other combination, unless you choose to go with 'style' over usability. But since you specifically asked about long blocks of text, I'd guess usability is at the top of your agenda. No need to use web safe colors anymore, in my opinion. Hardly anyone uses 256 color cards at this stage of the game. Again, see the many studies of hardware usage, or your own web logs. I'm reading this email with black on white, and you probably are too. There's a good reason for that, I think! To prevent boredom, two shades of deep gray or blue-gray would be besy. I may be wrong, but no one ever read a long block of text because of the color of the font. A better way to prevent boredom is to write interesting text! Just my two cents. -- John tia, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Websites for On-line Collectible Dealers Identry, LLC John Almberg (631) 546-5079 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.identry.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which gray is best for print?
Hi there, To prevent boredom, two shades of deep gray or blue-gray would be besy. I may be wrong, but no one ever read a long block of text because of the color of the font. A better way to prevent boredom is to write interesting text! And do not make the mistake of putting your long block of interesting text on the web! Very few people (if any) will be reading it. You can read a book like that but not a web content. Break down your text into manageble chunks (two, three paragrahs at most) and link them appropriately. HTH -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
bsdlabel does not create geli slices ie; /dev/ad4s1.elia
Hello! After initializing geli and attach geli enabled partition, i would like to create freebsd slices. Once i try 'bsdlabel -w /dev/ad4s1.eli' and then 'bsdlabel -e /dev/ad4s1.eli', this does not create ie; /dev/ad4s1.elia and i can not run newfs in success: 'Could not find special device'. Thanks if someone has advise about this. Regards, Cem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open-vm-tools broken?
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From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 8:27 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Open-vm-tools broken?
Hmm, getting this error:
Vmware: {root} % make
=== open-vm-tools-102166_2 is marked as broken: leaves files behind on
deinstall.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools.
Vmware: {root} %
Cute. I still like to run the open-vm-tools, though. Anyone know which
other
version/toolset I should run then?
If you remove the BROKEN line from the Makefile, it will compile just fine.
I personally think marking a package as broken because of an issue like
files left behind is dumb. Post a message to the user these files were left
behind, delete them manually at least.
-Sean
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Re: broken autoconf upgrade
Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While running portupgrade -ai, I noticed this else \ rc=$?; \ cd . \ $restore $backupdir/* `echo ./autoconf-2.62.info | sed 's|[^/]*$||'` ; \ fi; \ rm -rf $backupdir; exit $rc autoconf-2.62.texi:1723: Unknown command `'. autoconf-2.62.texi:3353: Unknown command `'. autoconf-2.62.texi:3920: Unknown command `'. autoconf-2.62.texi:3935: Unknown command `'. autoconf-2.62.texi:3947: Unknown command `'. autoconf-2.62.texi:3965: Unknown command `'. autoconf-2.62.texi:3986: Unknown command `'. autoconf-2.62.texi:4001: Unknown command `'. autoconf-2.62.texi:4019: Unknown command `'. autoconf-2.62.texi:4027: Unknown command `'. So, this won't upgrade. Anyone else see that? Nope. And that port doesn't do anything different with the texinfo files, either. Try just cleaning things up and making another attempt. Or remove all of the auto* ports and try to upgrade everything remaining; I've never had problems with those ports interfering with each other, but for some reason I worry about it anyway. And you may not need any of them for your upgrade run anyway. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems building port, missing library(?)
Aggelidis Nikos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi to all the list, i tried to install gtk-murrine-engine from ports... So i first updated them: * removed the old ports directory to start fresh and then did csup -L 2 -h cvsup.fr.FreeBSD.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile *i then typed [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr]# portupgrade -P -N gtk-murrine-engine and i got the following output: [snip] /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 gmake: *** [libgiofam.la] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.69428.0 env make reinstall ** Fix the installation problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! x11-themes/gtk-murrine-engine (install error) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed so then i tried installing gio-fam-backend so i typed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr]# portupgrade -P -N gio-fam-backend /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 gmake: *** [libgiofam.la] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.93689.0 env make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! devel/gio-fam-backend (unknown build error) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed i think the important part is: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 any ideas why this happened and how can i fix it? Looks like portupgrade itself might be the thing having the problem. Try rebuilding it. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to Catch Signals in kernel threads
Hi, I wanted to kill my kernel threads created in a kernel module gracefully . I tired psignal(kthread, SIGKILL); this signal reschedules the thread. But how can this thread know that SIGKILL was called and i can exit from the thread? I tired to register a signal handler for SIGABRT / any other signal for a kthread. Can we register a signal handler for kthreads? I would appreciate if anyone can share information as to how to catch signals in kernel threads. I am developing my kernel module in FreeBSD 6.2 where kthread_create creates a proc. Thanks and best regards, Lekha ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jittering sound on streaming
Wojciech Puchar wrote: try setting rtprio on your streaming app and check if it still persist Great, that really worked! unix is not realtime OS. rtprio make process realtime, which mostly works. true realtime task will be if it will lock it's memory to prevent swapping. in reality constantly used pages are never swapped so it's not a problem. for me it was (is) a requirement with ports/net/asterisk. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bsdlabel does not create geli slices ie; /dev/ad4s1.elia
Hello! After initializing geli and attach geli enabled partition, i would like to create freebsd slices. Once i try 'bsdlabel -w /dev/ad4s1.eli' and then 'bsdlabel -e /dev/ad4s1.eli', this does not create ie; /dev/ad4s1.elia and i can not run newfs in success: 'Could not find special device'. Thanks if someone has advise about this. no idea. i have partitioned geli devices and i partitioned it just as you said (bsdlabel -w and -e), just i don't use fdisk but it shouldn't matter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
core manpages
Hello, I'm testing an upgrade of 5.5 - 6.3, so I installed 5.5 from an iso, and installed the minimal system. This minimal system is apparently without manpages for the basic commands, or perhaps the default MANPATH is incorrect. Where can I find the base manpages to cover find, chmod, ls, cd, etc? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: broken autoconf upgrade
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope. And that port doesn't do anything different with the texinfo files, either. Try just cleaning things up and making another attempt. Or remove all of the auto* ports and try to upgrade everything remaining; I've never had problems with those ports interfering with each other, but for some reason I worry about it anyway. And you may not need any of them for your upgrade run anyway. Someone else responded saying that the port is no longer maintained on 5.5. I hadn't upgraded since everything was working fine, and new releases sometimes leave old hardware behind. But, I'll try upgrading anyway. 5.5 - 6.3 - 7.0 seems to be the right route... Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
upgrade path from 5.5
So if some ports aren't supported on 5.5, I'd better get my aging gateway upgraded. This begs the question of the correct path. I'm tempted to do a fresh install of 7.0 and then restore, but mergemaster does a better job of making sure the config files are both updated, and that nothing is lost. Would the correct path be 5.5 - 6.3 - 7.0? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
alternatives to mergemaster
The downside of mergemaster is that it is only a 2-way merge, where a 3-way would know better than you prompt you for changes that you didn't make. This makes mergemaster far more tedious than it has to be. Has anyone considered a good 3-way merge tool? I'm using Git for development, and it's also tremendously good at merging. This makes me kick around ideas for how to integrate it into a freebsd upgrade. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems building port, missing library(?)
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aggelidis Nikos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi to all the list, i tried to install gtk-murrine-engine from ports... So i first updated them: * removed the old ports directory to start fresh and then did csup -L 2 -h cvsup.fr.FreeBSD.org/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile *i then typed [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr]# portupgrade -P -N gtk-murrine-engine and i got the following output: [snip] /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 gmake: *** [libgiofam.la] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.69428.0 env make reinstall ** Fix the installation problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! x11-themes/gtk-murrine-engine (install error) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed so then i tried installing gio-fam-backend so i typed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr]# portupgrade -P -N gio-fam-backend /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 gmake: *** [libgiofam.la] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gio-fam-backend. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.93689.0 env make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! devel/gio-fam-backend (unknown build error) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed i think the important part is: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgio-2.0 any ideas why this happened and how can i fix it? Looks like portupgrade itself might be the thing having the problem. Try rebuilding it. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/http://be-well.ilk.org/%7Elowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] actually this is a well known problem you need to recompile glib20 to fix your problem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which gray is best for print?
On Friday 05 September 2008 08:36:45 pm Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 10:38:59PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:06:01 -0700, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still open to the bg color. The display white is not true, paper-white. Anyway, pretty sure the ink+paper publishers have their own [[ BETTER ]] ideas. I'm looking for what looks good on the web. You can't look at the Web, you're looking at a monitor or at a sheet of paper. :-) The same color may look different on * a CRT type monitor * a LCD type monitor * a hardcopy done by a color laser printer * a hardcopy done by a color ink pee printer * ... So you're saying that the white on my [monster] CRT is not the same as on a future LCD Display? rats:) --I can't see much difference in my new laserjet from my HP500 DeskJet, but then it wasn't a main concern ... . How do you have your digital camera set to color correct for white? Your eyes automatically compensate. Look at a photo taken in tungsten light, without automatic white balance turned on and then, view it or print it in raw mode so that you see the real world and then, compare it with what you saw. Most monitors have a color temperature setting, which determines how the displayed colors are shifted. IIRC, our eyes peak at 5500 (a yellow green??), which is the color temperature of the sun. This is due to the nature that these devices use different color spaces (RGB, composed additively, CMY, composed negatively), and most of them even aren't calibrated. GRB and CMY are parts of the CIE specified space (see CIE diagram), but they don't have all the colors in common. There are colors you can show on a CRT, but you cannot print them 1:1. I took all 5 quarters of physics, like most of us, but never got far into optics. And certainly, nothing like *this*. the quality of my writing is much more important that the colors of typeface or background. But this is an interesting side-bar. But the ability of people to read it is an important consideration. I hate those web pages with dark backgrounds that I have to use the mouse to select the text so that I can read it. I am a speed reader and basically see words as images. Dark backgrounds strain my eyes and I can't read as fast as I can with dark text on light backgrounds. I get bored really fast when I start reading at 150-200 wpm instead of my normal 700-1200 wpm. Anyway, the best reading contrast - black on white - looks boring on the web, and it stresses your eyes (too much light reflected / emitted). Furthermore, if you select a dark color for the background, LCD type monitors (that have a minimal light emission even if the color is pure black) may look too light, while a CRT type monitor may display the color as dark as you intended (because when it's black, the CRT does not emit any light, unless, of course, the base brightness is needlessly adjusted above the zero point). So much for physics, kids. :-) Really! So far, in my tests [staring at a CRT], I find an off-white reads most easily against a very dark blue. 33; or whatever 66 is. Still experimenting. IIRC, dyslexics have a much harder time reading when the background is dark. Kent ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: core manpages
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 12:38:57 -0400, Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm testing an upgrade of 5.5 - 6.3, so I installed 5.5 from an iso, and installed the minimal system. This minimal system is apparently without manpages for the basic commands, or perhaps the default MANPATH is incorrect. Where can I find the base manpages to cover find, chmod, ls, cd, etc? In the installation CD-ROM. You can install the `man' and `info' filesets to get the manpages and the Texinfo documentation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternatives to mergemaster
Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The downside of mergemaster is that it is only a 2-way merge, where a 3-way would know better than you prompt you for changes that you didn't make. This makes mergemaster far more tedious than it has to be. Has anyone considered a good 3-way merge tool? I always run mergemaster in auto upgrade mode. From the man page: -U Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi- fied. This can also be achieved by putting AUTO_UPGRADE=yes in /etc/mergemaster.rc. Combined with auto install, mergemaster requires little effort. -- Christian Laursen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
changes to -CURRENT tty
(Yes, I'm on current@ ... in digest mode. Besides others may be interested.) The 20080820 entry in /usr/src/UPDATING concerns a substantial change to the tty subsystem. Assuming I'm not trying anything fancy, and that I edit out the not-yet-updated devices, may I reasonably assume updating kernel+world will not break anything? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bsdlabel does not create geli slices ie; /dev/ad4s1.elia
Well, could this be because i partitioned ad4 hard disk by gparted? Disk has other OSs on other partitions... Very strange, i couldn't find any helpfull information about this on the net --- nor similar problem. Maybe i should try a latest snaphot instead of FreeBSD 7 release. Regards, Cem Wojciech Puchar, 09/06/08 19:27: Hello! After initializing geli and attach geli enabled partition, i would like to create freebsd slices. Once i try 'bsdlabel -w /dev/ad4s1.eli' and then 'bsdlabel -e /dev/ad4s1.eli', this does not create ie; /dev/ad4s1.elia and i can not run newfs in success: 'Could not find special device'. Thanks if someone has advise about this. no idea. i have partitioned geli devices and i partitioned it just as you said (bsdlabel -w and -e), just i don't use fdisk but it shouldn't matter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bsdlabel does not create geli slices ie; /dev/ad4s1.elia
did you check that after bsdlabel -e partitions are actually updated? On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Cem Kayali wrote: Well, could this be because i partitioned ad4 hard disk by gparted? Disk has other OSs on other partitions... Very strange, i couldn't find any helpfull information about this on the net --- nor similar problem. Maybe i should try a latest snaphot instead of FreeBSD 7 release. Regards, Cem Wojciech Puchar, 09/06/08 19:27: Hello! After initializing geli and attach geli enabled partition, i would like to create freebsd slices. Once i try 'bsdlabel -w /dev/ad4s1.eli' and then 'bsdlabel -e /dev/ad4s1.eli', this does not create ie; /dev/ad4s1.elia and i can not run newfs in success: 'Could not find special device'. Thanks if someone has advise about this. no idea. i have partitioned geli devices and i partitioned it just as you said (bsdlabel -w and -e), just i don't use fdisk but it shouldn't matter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which gray is best for print?
How do you have your digital camera set to color correct for white? Your eyes the simplest method to check if your monitor reproduces colors exactly is to display some photo from digital camera and make photo of the screen, then cut out the image part from photo and display near the first. should look the same. for my CRT monitor, with setting gamma correction right i'm able to do it. with LCD - i don't ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-08-17 - 2008-09-06
The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists and/or The FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/. These are the articles posted during this period: 30-Aug : gmirror - recovering from a failed HDD an HDD failed. gmirror to the rescue. http://freebsddiary.org/gmirror-failure.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which gray is best for print?
On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 03:17:25PM +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Hi there, To prevent boredom, two shades of deep gray or blue-gray would be besy. I may be wrong, but no one ever read a long block of text because of the color of the font. A better way to prevent boredom is to write interesting text! And do not make the mistake of putting your long block of interesting text on the web! Very few people (if any) will be reading it. You can read a book like that but not a web content. Break down your text into manageble chunks (two, three paragrahs at most) and link them appropriately. But do also provide a 1-page version with a sensible print medium CSS (or even a nicely formatted PDF), so that users can create a hard copy version with a minimun of fuss and clicks. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which gray is best for print?
On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 10:38:45AM -0700, Kent wrote: But the ability of people to read it is an important consideration. I hate those web pages with dark backgrounds that I have to use the mouse to select the text so that I can read it. I am a speed reader and basically see words as images. Dark backgrounds strain my eyes and I can't read as fast as I can with dark text on light backgrounds. I get bored really fast when I start reading at 150-200 wpm instead of my normal 700-1200 wpm. (...) IIRC, dyslexics have a much harder time reading when the background is dark. Kent That's really interesting! ... But everyone's different: Personally, I really dislike pure white backgrounds on light-emitting surfaces. When reading from a physical book, white is the best background, but when reading it from a CRT or LCD, it hurts my eyes very fast up to a point where I start to get a headache and have to stop after 10 to 20 minutes. That's why I usually use a user-specific CSS to override that pure-white background and change it to light grey. I even wrote a little transparent web proxy many years ago, that would rewrite HTML back in the days when CSS was not yet as popular, just to grey-ish this hurting white background. Of course, the ideal solution would be to offer visitors switchable or even freely-configurable color themes to satisfy everyone's tastes and preferences. But the issue is then still that of the default theme would usually still be (sadly IMHO, luckily in most other peoples' mind) pure white background... so it's still 'user-specific CSS' for new websites. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Grid computing under FreeBSD using jails ... ?
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Re: which gray is best for print?
{ After spending hours looking for a used ThinkPad}
On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 01:53:46PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 20:36:45 -0700, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So you're saying that the white on my [monster] CRT is not the
same as on a future LCD Display? rats:)
Exactly. And compare the black, too, best way to differentiate
with CRT and LCD side by side with a fullscreen color black.
Isn't it dark-gray, tho? or as black as a dark tube gets,
rather than true-black?
--I can't see much
difference in my new laserjet from my HP500 DeskJet, but then it
wasn't a main concern ... .
Human perception is another thing. Just because *I* can't notice
something, it doesn't imply that (1) others can't and (2) it isn't
there. In order to make a human person *feel* the change of a
sensory input is linear (e. g. the light intensity increases), you
need to increase the actual input in a logarithmic way.
http://www.neuro.uu.se/fysiologi/gu/nbb/lectures/WebFech.html
tHis I'll check out; you've piqued my curiousity, even tho this
gets further from whatever I was talking about:-) ...Not only
are the psychological varioations, but neurophysiological ones as
well. And gender diffs too. My better two-thirds says that I
may as well be color-blind, and she's probably right. What I
will avoid is having some *Ugly* combos like black on dark blue.
No, I am Not kidding. Or yellow typeface on White bg. It's like
the shriek/skreek of chalk against a blackboard. Makes my skin crawl.
I took all 5 quarters of physics, like most of us, but never got
far into optics.
Physics comes in 5 quarters? 5 * 0.25 = 1.25... :-)
And certainly, nothing like *this*.
I learned about this when I studied psychology and computational
visualistics, but the RGB vs. CMY stuff (additive and subtractive
color combination) was part of the basal school education in the
GDR.
You got me there, man. I took plenty of psych courses over the
years, but nothing involving computation. Congrats.
the
quality of my writing is much more important that the colors of
typeface or background.
I really applaud this attitude. You won't find them very often
across the web, sadly, because style is more important than content.
I've seen things, man, ...
Hm. About the only time form/style can top function/contact,
IMHO, is when you're being forced to watch a very nicely
stylized ad. {On the web.} I've seen a couple. O/wise, the way
a piece works wins. I listened to an interview on NPR several
months ago who said that, I think of people who don't watch web
advertisement as thieves, or sometime similar. Isn't a primary
function of the web to allow *us* to control what we see?
But this is an interesting side-bar.
It's a very important topic to know about when you're doing DTP
stuff. Exact color calibration is very important in this field.
So you can understand why there's still a niche market for quality
CRT monitors and quality printing devices. Of course, color
temperatures and other settings like contrast and brightness
are to be considered, too.
Sure, but I'll happy leave this niche to people more qualified.
I'm below the bottom/barrel here.
Really! So far, in my tests [staring at a CRT], I find an
off-white reads most easily against a very dark blue. 33;
or whatever 66 is. Still experimenting.
it's very individual how colors are percepted. If someone with
deuteranopia looks at certain color combinations where others
may say: Looks good!, they could say: I don't see text there.
At least for printed material, black on white is good, and it
even can be used for projection media (beamer).
i May be off on this one, but I'm seeing more dark grays on my
ink+paper journals. Hard to tell since with the years sight
loses sharpness as our lenses become sclerotic and full of gunk.
Which all goes back to the original point:: what's the best
--oh, no-- what *are* the best combinations of off-white and
darkgray, bluegray, or almost-black-bluegray?
When I was at university, some guys put up a presentation with
black text on dark bluie background, 10pt serife font. Bah!
Unreadable in the last row.
didn't i mumble something like this above? 25 years ago my eyes
were much better, but not That much. i hope someone complained
... seriously.
--
Polytropon
From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
--
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Re: changes to -CURRENT tty
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:05:15 -0400, Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Yes, I'm on current@ ... in digest mode. Besides others may be interested.) The 20080820 entry in /usr/src/UPDATING concerns a substantial change to the tty subsystem. Assuming I'm not trying anything fancy, and that I edit out the not-yet-updated devices, may I reasonably assume updating kernel+world will not break anything? Since you are running -CURRENT, it is worth keeping in mind that there is no guarantee that the 'head' branch is stable enough for anything. So _you_ are the one who has to pick up the pieces and reassemble a working system if you update at the 'wrong time'. Having said that I'm running a kernel+userland with the new tty code on my laptop for a couple of weeks now. Other than a minor annoyance with screen, which was fixed by Ed already, I haven't noticed anything that seems seriously broken. The new tty layer was committed by Ed Schouten at 2008-08-20, and I've updated my kernel and userland more than 20 times since that time. The new tty code seems to work so far :) pgpVkkHxrtVSU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Panic in IPv4 multicast code
I've been playing around with some multicast stuff with rtpdump and I have what appears to be a 100%-repeatable panic on 7.1-PRERELEASE (csupped on 20080905): (kgdb) bt #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:196 #1 0xc078f8c7 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:418 #2 0xc078fb89 in panic (fmt=Variable fmt is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:572 #3 0xc07c406e in propagate_priority (td=0xc50c7000) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_turnstile.c:222 #4 0xc07c4f38 in turnstile_wait (ts=0xc482edc0, owner=0xc50c7000, queue=Variable queue is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_turnstile.c:739 #5 0xc07825be in _mtx_lock_sleep (m=0xc0c4884c, tid=3300787856, opts=0, file=0x0, line=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_mutex.c:420 #6 0xc087051f in ip_output (m=0xc4b7f600, opt=0x0, ro=0xe7155b20, flags=34, imo=0x0, inp=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_output.c:305 #7 0xc07e74e5 in sosend_generic (so=0xc4caf340, addr=0xc49b18e0, uio=0xe7155be8, top=0xc4b7f600, control=0x0, flags=0, td=0xc4be0690) at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket.c:1246 #8 0xc07e2fff in sosend (so=0xc4caf340, addr=0xc49b18e0, uio=0xe7155be8, top=0x0, control=0x0, flags=0, td=0xc4be0690) at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket.c:1292 #9 0xc07e9d86 in kern_sendit (td=0xc4be0690, s=4, mp=0xe7155c64, flags=0, control=0x0, segflg=UIO_USERSPACE) at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_syscalls.c:805 #10 0xc07ecfd1 in sendit (td=0xc4be0690, s=4, mp=0xe7155c64, flags=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_syscalls.c:742 #11 0xc07ed0e8 in sendto (td=0xc4be0690, uap=0xe7155cfc) at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_syscalls.c:857 #12 0xc0aa14a5 in syscall (frame=0xe7155d38) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1090 #13 0xc0a87920 in Xint0x80_syscall () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:255 #14 0x0033 in ?? () (kgdb) According to the comments at kern/subr_turnstile.c:222 I'm supposed to be looking for another thread to blame for the issue... does anyone have any thoughts about how to go about doing that? Interestingly, I have another similarly-configured (but radically different hardware) system that seems to do this okay. That system is currently running some older version of RELENG_7, but I'm in process updating it to the same version as the troublesome system. The troublesome system is using the em driver, the working system is using rl, if there's something about the NIC that's involved. -- Alec Kloss [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key at http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xA241980E No Bunny! -- Simon, http://wiki.adultswim.com/xwiki/bin/Frisky+Dingo/Simon pgp50rG3X7VRM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Journaling filesystem support in FreeBSD
- Mensaje original De: Andreas Davour [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Enviado: domingo, 7 de septiembre, 2008 2:23:50 Asunto: Journaling filesystem support in FreeBSD I know about soft updates and background fsck, but while they make the system available quickly they also generate quite a lot of I/O activity a short while after the system have booted and when I want to log in and start all my stuff, I/O intensive as well. The support for NTFS seems to be limited to reading still and the other filesystem support i have on my system (6.2) don't seem to show much of an alternative if you want a journaling filesystem, which are supposed to limit the need for fsck. So, what are the alternatives? Can I run xfs on FreeBSD? Is it zfs on 7 that I need? I have tried tfm and google and not found anything useful. /Andreas -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -- I believe ntfs has full writing support (no fsck / chkdsk though) via the ntfs-3g project (http://www.ntfs-3g.org/ ), which uses the fuse driver. I wouldn't install my system over it though, although I've seen ubuntu run pretty well via Wubi on that conditions. zfs is not supposed to need fsck at all, but doesn't seem suitable for production use yet ( http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSKnownProblems ; also, booting from ZFS is not still fully supported - you have to boot to a UFS partition, then chainload into the ZFS root ). I'd guess your best bet for a production machine is still UFS... (BTW, got the point from your signature :P). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which gray is best for print?
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 01:33:55AM +0200, cpghost wrote: On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 10:38:45AM -0700, Kent wrote: (...) IIRC, dyslexics have a much harder time reading when the background is dark. Kent That's really interesting! ... But everyone's different: Personally, I really dislike pure white backgrounds on light-emitting surfaces. When reading from a physical book, white is the best background, but when reading it from a CRT or LCD, it hurts my eyes very fast up to a point where I start to get a headache and have to stop after 10 to 20 minutes. That's why I usually use a user-specific CSS to override that pure-white background and change it to light grey. I even wrote a little transparent web proxy many years ago, that would rewrite HTML back in the days when CSS was not yet as popular, just to grey-ish this hurting white background. Man, this is getting interestinger and interestinger. wHen i've found something that looks enhoyable but hurts my eyes -- and Yes! i detest reading online for very long [esp'ly with any (censored) ads flashing], I'll save the file and change the colors. if it's some script that has no #xx i'll rty to save via lynx, then use my probgram to turn back into HTML, and then edit the bg/fg to suit me. ---i thought i was the only one whose eyes hurts hurt. Hmph. Of course, the ideal solution would be to offer visitors switchable or even freely-configurable color themes to satisfy everyone's tastes and preferences. But the issue is then still that of the default theme would usually still be (sadly IMHO, luckily in most other peoples' mind) pure white background... so it's still 'user-specific CSS' for new websites. This is something i've been considering for a couple years. The ink+paper version is set in concrete, but the web version can be PHp-tweaked. Or, more likely, let reader's have their choice of some N versions. The whole of this jottings book/chapbook is 90k bytes, so it's not like i'll be spending that much disk space. Also, what i'm working on now is Version 2.0.x, smmaler still thanks for friends' help. As tho it weren't evident, i can run on a bit:) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grid computing under FreeBSD using jails ... ?
Is it possible to run software on two different jails that would load balance processes between two or more VPSs? FreeBSD Xen dom0 support looks like it will be a ways out yet I am also interested in using FreeBSD as the host in some grid/cloud solution I am open to any Ideas anyone has. Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bsdlabel does not create geli slices ie; /dev/ad4s1.elia - fix
Hi, OK, i think i found the problem: I have attached a usb-memory disk and tried to same steps, i got same error: 'bsdlabel -w /dev/da0s1.eli', 'bsdlabel -e /dev/da0s1.eli', and 'newfs /dev/da0s1.elia': 'Could not find special device'. Then, i deleted all partitions, and created single partition and labelled it as FreeBSD partition = 165. Then i followed same steps and i did see '/dev/da0s1.elia' device node in /dev. In short, the partition should be labblled as FreeBSD (165). I don't know why this is must. Regards, Cem Wojciech Puchar, 09/07/08 01:41: did you check that after bsdlabel -e partitions are actually updated? On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Cem Kayali wrote: Well, could this be because i partitioned ad4 hard disk by gparted? Disk has other OSs on other partitions... Very strange, i couldn't find any helpfull information about this on the net --- nor similar problem. Maybe i should try a latest snaphot instead of FreeBSD 7 release. Regards, Cem Wojciech Puchar, 09/06/08 19:27: Hello! After initializing geli and attach geli enabled partition, i would like to create freebsd slices. Once i try 'bsdlabel -w /dev/ad4s1.eli' and then 'bsdlabel -e /dev/ad4s1.eli', this does not create ie; /dev/ad4s1.elia and i can not run newfs in success: 'Could not find special device'. Thanks if someone has advise about this. no idea. i have partitioned geli devices and i partitioned it just as you said (bsdlabel -w and -e), just i don't use fdisk but it shouldn't matter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail server DNS configuration questions
Hi, Well, my clients at church are still having issues and after working with George, a respondant to my original questions, I think that most, if not all, of my problems are related to DNS and how we've got it improperly configured. First, a crude drawing of how our mail server exists in the world: 192.168.2.x/24 72.24.23.252 lot's of networks Private Network -- CableOne -- Internet Now, our mail server's IP is 192.168.2.23. On the router, he (the person at whose house the mail server is) has IP forwarding setup so that mail get's sent to our FreeBSD machine. Using dig, here's the responses: (from my FBSD machine at home, not the server) [/usr/home/andy] - dig +short -t MX whitneybaptist.org 10 mail.whitneybaptist.org. [/usr/home/andy] - dig +short -t A whitneybaptist.org 72.24.34.252 [/usr/home/andy] - dig +short -x 72.24.34.252 34-252.72-24-cpe.cableone.net. (from the church FBSD machine) [/home/afalanga] - hostname whitbap [/home/afalanga] - ifconfig fxp0 fxp0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU inet 192.168.2.23 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255 ether 00:d0:b7:74:87:48 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active [/home/afalanga] - cat /etc/resolv.conf search McCutchanLAN nameserver 192.168.2.1 It doesn't take a rocket scientist, or a computer scientist, to figure out we've got DNS issues. I'm thinking that I should setup a domain within the 192.168.2.0/24 network on this box. I've done this before, at work. The question I've got is I've never actually integrated a domain like this to a domain on the Internet. I'm thinking that we'll setup something like: internal.whitneybaptist.org with hosts in that sub-domain. So, what would my DNS tables need to look like to make this happen. Also, to any knowledgable souls here, what RFCs address these issues? Thanks, Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternatives to mergemaster
On Sep 6, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Christian Laursen wrote: I always run mergemaster in auto upgrade mode. From the man page: -U Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi- fied. This can also be achieved by putting AUTO_UPGRADE=yes in /etc/mergemaster.rc. AUTO_UPGRADE isn't documented in mergemaster(8). I guess it's time for me to submit my first documentation patch (unless someone beats me to it). Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changes to -CURRENT tty
Giorgos Keramidas writes: Since you are running -CURRENT, it is worth keeping in mind that there is no guarantee that the 'head' branch is stable enough for anything. So _you_ are the one who has to pick up the pieces and reassemble a working system if you update at the 'wrong time'. Drank the Kool-aid already. :-) But I also read src/UPDATING, and wait a couple of digests after any big commit. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail server DNS configuration questions
Andrew Falanga wrote: Hi, Well, my clients at church are still having issues and after working with George, a respondant to my original questions, I think that most, if not all, of my problems are related to DNS and how we've got it improperly configured. First, a crude drawing of how our mail server exists in the world: 192.168.2.x/24 72.24.23.252 lot's of networks Private Network -- CableOne -- Internet Now, our mail server's IP is 192.168.2.23. On the router, he (the person at whose house the mail server is) has IP forwarding setup so that mail get's sent to our FreeBSD machine. Using dig, here's the responses: (from my FBSD machine at home, not the server) [/usr/home/andy] - dig +short -t MX whitneybaptist.org 10 mail.whitneybaptist.org. [/usr/home/andy] - dig +short -t A whitneybaptist.org 72.24.34.252 [/usr/home/andy] - dig +short -x 72.24.34.252 34-252.72-24-cpe.cableone.net. (from the church FBSD machine) [/home/afalanga] - hostname whitbap [/home/afalanga] - ifconfig fxp0 fxp0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU inet 192.168.2.23 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255 ether 00:d0:b7:74:87:48 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active [/home/afalanga] - cat /etc/resolv.conf search McCutchanLAN nameserver 192.168.2.1 It doesn't take a rocket scientist, or a computer scientist, to figure out we've got DNS issues. I'm thinking that I should setup a domain within the 192.168.2.0/24 network on this box. I've done this before, at work. The question I've got is I've never actually integrated a domain like this to a domain on the Internet. I'm thinking that we'll setup something like: internal.whitneybaptist.org with hosts in that sub-domain. So, what would my DNS tables need to look like to make this happen. Also, to any knowledgable souls here, what RFCs address these issues? Thanks, Andy Andy, I'm not sure I'm DNS guru enough to answer all your questions, but --- you don't specify what problems are being experienced at the location, and, are you certain it's not about this? [25] Sat 06.Sep.2008 21:58:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/logs] host 72.24.34.252 Host 252.34.24.72.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) *Not having* a reverse entry for a mail server is often the cause of issues. And the RFC for ESMTP is #2821. HTH, Kevin Kinsey -- In Denver it is unlawful to lend your vacuum cleaner to your next-door neighbor. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ThinkPad 3.0GHz: can anybody verify?
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 04:09:12PM +1000, Ian Smith wrote: I had no trouble dropping a 120GB Fujitsu into my T23 recently (was 30GB), so I expect 160GB would be fine, especially in a much later model. And 2GB is likely plenty for anything but Microsloth Vasta. Something to consider is what type of RAM it uses, eg the older PC133 144-pin SDRAM I need for my T23 is now very expensive, ~U$70 per 512MB stick, or around A$100 shipped, where newer RAM is a fraction of that. As an example (T-41): http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-58183.html I've never heard of a uniprocessor Thinkpad running anywhere near 3GHz, but then there's lots I've never heard of .. but the T41[/p] only goes to 1.7GHz according to the above URL, so it must be a much later model. On a quick check, the fastest T43 seems to be a Pentium M 770 @ 2.13GHz. [[ ... ]] Well I certainly wouldn't buy a Thinkpad I didn't have the EXACT model number of, when that reveals the CPU type/speed, HD and RAM originally fitted, CD/CDRW/DVD[RW], screen size, video card, wireless etc options. Maybe you (Gary) could post an URL illustrating one of these machines? As in, what's the RGB code for Thinkpad Black? :) Ian, how about #trublk :-) okay, the long/short of it is that i spent last night anf this morning asking several .com places that sold used TP's if 1) they would sell me the laptop without Windose and credit me. 2) they had an uniprocs = 2.2 and = 3.0 3) they would do upgrade or 4) provide me with the upgrade into. I found some dual-core that were like 1.7GHz- 2.2GHz. sound right? several had large ~(120G) drive, 1G RAM. .LT. $800, which is not that bad. A wweek ago I asked a Live Chat person about scrubbing the Windows; it was No; sold as-is. Of note: when I checked that discountpc place, the 3.0Ghz was gone; the other were from 1.2 to 2.0GHz. More disappointing was the sloppy way some site had listed their TP's. E.G.: 2000GHz and other careless errors. Makes you wonder how far these places have to dim the lights when they are paying their employees... . gary cheers, Ian -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Burncd 700MB rw/cd
Been using burncd since Freebsd 4.0 with 650MB rw/cd's just fine. My local computer store had a sale on 700MB rw/cd's and I picked up a few. Burncd gives msg (Failure - read_big illegal request) on these 700MB rw/cd's. The Freebsd 7.0 man burncd has no info on large sized rw/cd's? Does burncd need a programming update to handle these newer larger sized rw/cd's? What other (built in with the release) program can be used to burn 700 MB rw/cd's? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternatives to mergemaster
El Sáb 06 Sep 2008, Christian Laursen escribió: Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The downside of mergemaster is that it is only a 2-way merge, where a 3-way would know better than you prompt you for changes that you didn't make. This makes mergemaster far more tedious than it has to be. Has anyone considered a good 3-way merge tool? I always run mergemaster in auto upgrade mode. From the man page: -U Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi- fied. This can also be achieved by putting AUTO_UPGRADE=yes in /etc/mergemaster.rc. Combined with auto install, mergemaster requires little effort. I also recommend the -i option -i Automatically install any files that do not exist in the destination directory. The option -U depends on the existence of a database (/var/db/mergemaster.mtree), witch does not exist the first time. So the first time you run the mergemaster, you can not use the -U option. But, my advice is, when you install FreeBSD in a computer, run mergemaster before you upgrade the source code to build the database. maps ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD5 errors
i was downloading 7.0-RELEASE, and found the following MD5 errors: doc/ ERROR: MD5 (doc.cc) = a83976995e055dbe67030397902c5ab9 MD5SUM MD5 (doc.cc) = 662363b086db1164eb922024428df2df ERROR: MD5 (install.sh) = 0ddd67ac6a0ca00e0131f63bcde9b145 MD5SUM MD5 (install.sh) = a1f597bcc955e069fd6679ea4a543d19 kernels/ ERROR: MD5 (install.sh) = 7f507448f530c624c9b0d9e4881c148f MD5SUM MD5 (install.sh) = 766fb0b8d2332d5cb5f70be4ec00ea7b src/ ERROR: MD5 (install.sh) = 311278afa5305731822fbfa8d1de2805 MD5SUM MD5 (install.sh) = fa16a2a3b7a8b4ec6f4eada5eb5bb326 i am worried about doc.cc, because the file size is very wrong. can anyone please verify that it is safe to install with these broken MD5 sums before i try to install? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail server DNS configuration questions
Andrew Falanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't take a rocket scientist, or a computer scientist, to figure out we've got DNS issues. What exactly is the problem though? What problems are you having on the mail server that lead you to the above conclusion? -- Sahil Tandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail server DNS configuration questions
--On September 6, 2008 7:28:28 PM -0600 Andrew Falanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Well, my clients at church are still having issues and after working with George, a respondant to my original questions, I think that most, if not all, of my problems are related to DNS and how we've got it improperly configured. First, a crude drawing of how our mail server exists in the world: 192.168.2.x/24 72.24.23.252 lot's of networks Private Network -- CableOne -- Internet Now, our mail server's IP is 192.168.2.23. On the router, he (the person at whose house the mail server is) has IP forwarding setup so that mail get's sent to our FreeBSD machine. Using dig, here's the responses: The 192.168.0.0/24 network is an IANA reserved network and **does not route** on the internet. You can send mail but you'll never be able to receive any. In order for you to receive email to that server, whatever device you've got in front of it (dsl router, for example) must be configured to hard code port 25 to your mail server so that all incoming mail to the public IP (72.24.23.252) will always go to the 192.168.2.23 address, which is the actual address of the mail server. Some mail servers will not receive mail if the IP of the mail server doesn't reverse. Yours does, so that shouldn't be a problem, *however* if they also try to talk to your mail server to verify that it's actually a mail server that will fail if you don't have port 25 hard coded. You don't say what the issues that you're having are, so that's my best guess about what's wrong. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ** WARNING: Check the headers before replying
Re: mail server DNS configuration questions
On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 07:28:28PM -0600, Andrew Falanga wrote:
Well, my clients at church are still having issues and after working with
George, a respondant to my original questions, I think that most, if not all,
of my problems are related to DNS and how we've got it improperly configured.
First, a crude drawing of how our mail server exists in the world:
192.168.2.x/24 72.24.23.252 lot's of networks
Private Network -- CableOne -- Internet
Now, our mail server's IP is 192.168.2.23. On the router, he (the person at
whose house the mail server is) has IP forwarding setup so that mail get's
sent to our FreeBSD machine. Using dig, here's the responses:
(from my FBSD machine at home, not the server)
[/usr/home/andy] - dig +short -t MX whitneybaptist.org
10 mail.whitneybaptist.org.
[/usr/home/andy] - dig +short -t A whitneybaptist.org
72.24.34.252
[/usr/home/andy] - dig +short -x 72.24.34.252
34-252.72-24-cpe.cableone.net.
(from the church FBSD machine)
[/home/afalanga] - hostname
whitbap
[/home/afalanga] - ifconfig fxp0
fxp0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
options=8VLAN_MTU
inet 192.168.2.23 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255
ether 00:d0:b7:74:87:48
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
[/home/afalanga] - cat /etc/resolv.conf
search McCutchanLAN
nameserver 192.168.2.1
It doesn't take a rocket scientist, or a computer scientist, to figure out
we've got DNS issues. I'm thinking that I should setup a domain within the
192.168.2.0/24 network on this box. I've done this before, at work. The
question I've got is I've never actually integrated a domain like this to a
domain on the Internet. I'm thinking that we'll setup something like:
internal.whitneybaptist.org with hosts in that sub-domain.
So, what would my DNS tables need to look like to make this happen. Also, to
any knowledgable souls here, what RFCs address these issues?
Hello again, Andy.
What you're asking is actually a FAQ, but I'll spell things out anyway.
The following excerpt from RFC 1918 is most relevant:
If an enterprise uses the private address space, or a mix of
private and public address spaces, then DNS clients outside of
the enterprise should not see addresses in the private address
space used by the enterprise, since these addresses would be
ambiguous. One way to ensure this is to run two authority
servers for each DNS zone containing both publically and
privately addressed hosts. One server would be visible from the
public address space and would contain only the subset of the
enterprise's addresses which were reachable using public
addresses. The other server would be reachable only from the
private network and would contain the full set of data,
including the private addresses and whatever public addresses
are reachable the private network. In order to ensure
consistency, both servers should be configured from the same
data of which the publically visible zone only contains a
filtered version. There is certain degree of additional
complexity associated with providing these capabilities.
That's a roundabout way of saying you can't mix and match private
non-routable addresses with public addresses in the same namespace.
Note the authoritative part. Until CableOne delegates your assigned
netblock to your organisation, your public DNS server will not be
authoritative (it currently isn't!) for 72.24.34.252. You can reference
RFC 2317 (classless in-addr.arpa delegation) for how that works. As to
why you must be authoritative, I've already pointed out off-list how Bad
Things can happen when you're not, especially in regards to email where
reverse lookups are integral to How Things Work.
As for other RFCs, I'd suggest instead starting with a careful reading
of the Bind ARM at http://www.isc.org/sw/bind/, followed by a once-over
of the Bind FAQ, and possibly the FreeBSD-supplied configuration files.
To save you some time, the following abbreviated context-specific
examples should explain things more clearly and get you started:
Example 1: Two domains and two separate (sets of) name servers:
On the ns.whitneybaptist.org machine:
zone whitneybaptist.org {
type master;
file master/whitneybaptist.org;
};
zone 252.34.24.72.in-addr.arpa {
type master;
file master/db.72.24.34.252;
};
On the ns.internal.whitneybaptist.org machine:
zone internal.whitneybaptist.org {
type master;
file master/internal.whitneybaptist.org;
};
zone 1.168.192.in-addr.arpa
