Re: cannot log in via console, cannot su(1), only as root
Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote: Hello Martinko: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of martinko Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 4:36 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot log in via console, cannot su(1), only as root martinko wrote: hello list, i was updating sw configuration of my old computer and towards the end i noticed i couldn't log in on local console other than root. i tried remote ssh using public keys which worked but i found out su(1) to any user except root does not work either. i've no idea how i could possibly manage to break my system like this and unfortunately i need to fix it by tomorrow. therefore i would really appreciate your prompt hints as what to check etc. some more details follow ... upgrade from 6.0-R to 6.2-R everything went ok .. i was doing changes in /etc based on my other computer settings i was working via ssh(1), therefore i haven't noticed when logging on console stopped working. what works: log in via ssh(1) using public/private keys log in on local console as root su(1) to root what doesn't work: log in via ssh(1) using password log in on local console as a normal user su(1) to a normal user (it even doesn't ask for password a throws sorry) besides, as root i'm able to change passwords via passwd(1), but it doesn't help and a normal user cannot change their own password (old password check would fail). i ran vipw(8) and it doesn't seem to me there's something wrong with my files. any hints pls ?? The normal user would have to be a member of the wheel group to use su at any point. If your normal user logs in via ssh/console/whatever, they should be able to run the passwd command to change their own password. You wouldn't want them to su to do so. If you want to test this, add your normal user to the wheel group, log in again and see if it works. I'm not having problem with a password as such. I can change it. I just cannot log in using password as any user apart from root, whether logging locally (console) or remotely (ssh). Users I tried su(1) are of course members of wheel group. su(1) failed before even accepting any password. There's something wrong somewhere and I need to find it, just don't know how. Any ideas pls ?? Martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cannot log in via console, cannot su(1), only as root
hello list, i was updating sw configuration of my old computer and towards the end i noticed i couldn't log in on local console other than root. i tried remote ssh using public keys which worked but i found out su(1) to any user except root does not work either. i've no idea how i could possibly manage to break my system like this and unfortunately i need to fix it by tomorrow. therefore i would really appreciate your prompt hints as what to check etc. many thanks in advance !! martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot log in via console, cannot su(1), only as root
martinko wrote: hello list, i was updating sw configuration of my old computer and towards the end i noticed i couldn't log in on local console other than root. i tried remote ssh using public keys which worked but i found out su(1) to any user except root does not work either. i've no idea how i could possibly manage to break my system like this and unfortunately i need to fix it by tomorrow. therefore i would really appreciate your prompt hints as what to check etc. some more details follow ... upgrade from 6.0-R to 6.2-R everything went ok .. i was doing changes in /etc based on my other computer settings i was working via ssh(1), therefore i haven't noticed when logging on console stopped working. what works: log in via ssh(1) using public/private keys log in on local console as root su(1) to root what doesn't work: log in via ssh(1) using password log in on local console as a normal user su(1) to a normal user (it even doesn't ask for password a throws sorry) besides, as root i'm able to change passwords via passwd(1), but it doesn't help and a normal user cannot change their own password (old password check would fail). i ran vipw(8) and it doesn't seem to me there's something wrong with my files. any hints pls ?? m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mounting fusefs via /etc/fstab
Hallo, At the bottom of http://curlftpfs.sourceforge.net/ there's an example of using FUSE via /etc/fstab. It is for Linux. I wonder whether the same thing can be achieved on FreeBSD somehow as it would be very useful. With regards, Martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
configuring network connection via proxy
Hello, I need to plug my company laptop in to different networks many of which make use of some sort of proxy for accessing the internet. And every time I face this challenge of changing connection settings of different applications in many places. This is of course very inconvenient. What I would like to be able to do is to change the connection settings regarding a proxy in one place and have it affect all my applications. Something like one can do in MS Windows via Internet Options (configuring proxy access). I checked our otherwise great Handbook but failed to find something covering this scenario. And I'm surprised as I expect this to be a rather common need. Have I missed something ? Could someone point me to any article covering my need please ? TIA, Martin PS: Yes, I tried to google for this but I wasn't successful or perhaps I just asked wrong questions. :( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade refusin to upgrade a port .. when it shouldn't imho
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 10:55:40PM +0100, martinko wrote: Hello, According to freshports.org the newest multimedia/win32-codecs port (3.1.0.r1,1) is not vulnerable. I'm trying to upgrade version win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8,1 on my system but portupgrade + portaudit refuse me to do so: ** Port marked as IGNORE: multimedia/win32-codecs: is forbidden: Remote code execution: http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/24f6b1eb-43d5-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html Isn't this behaviour flawed ?? Or am I missing something ? Did you update your portaudit database? Kris Sure thing: mb-aw1n-bsd[/root]# portaudit -Fda New database installed. Database created: Thu Dec 7 01:10:04 CET 2006 Affected package: win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8,1 Type of problem: win32-codecs -- multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/24f6b1eb-43d5-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html 1 problem(s) in your installed packages found. You are advised to update or deinstall the affected package(s) immediately. mb-aw1n-bsd[/root]# portupgrade -if win32-codecs --- Session started at: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 01:24:42 +0100 ** Port marked as IGNORE: multimedia/win32-codecs: is forbidden: Remote code execution: http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/24f6b1eb-43d5-11db-81e1-000e0c2e438a.html --- ** Upgrade tasks 1: 0 done, 1 ignored, 0 skipped and 0 failed --- Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - multimedia/win32-codecs (win32-codecs-3.1.0.p8,1) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 1 ignored, 0 skipped and 0 failed --- Session ended at: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 01:24:43 +0100 (consumed 00:00:01) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
portsnap mirrors not being updated (?)
Hello, I've seen the following for around last two days: Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap1.FreeBSD.org... done. Latest snapshot on server matches what we already have. No updates needed. Is something going on with portsnap's mirror building ? M. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
emulators/qemu: crashes with Bad system call: 12
Hello, I'm trying to install Win2K but QEMU is constantly crashing with: Bad system call: 12 The command line I'm using is a variation of the following: qemu -cdrom /opt/win2k.iso -hda /opt/c.img -m 256 -boot d -win2k-hack First I tried to boot directly from CD. Also I used QCOW disk image but QEMU crashed at a very early stage (before Win2K installer kicked in). Now I'm using RAW disk image and QEMU actually runs up to after initial Win2K installer reads device configuration files. What might be wrong and how to fix it please ? Cheers, Martin PS: QEMU is freshly installed from ports on FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emulators/qemu: crashes with Bad system call: 12
Josh Carroll wrote: I'm trying to install Win2K but QEMU is constantly crashing with: Bad system call: 12 According to the qemu man page, there is an option you need when installing windows 2000. I don't know if it'd cause the bad system call message, but it's worth a shot. Also, I think the newer qemu port require aio (kldload aio, if it's not built into your kernel). -win2k-hack Use it when installing Windows 2000 to avoid a disk full bug. After Windows 2000 is installed, you no longer need this option (this option slows down the IDE transfers). Give that a shot. Josh The command line I'm using is a variation of the following: qemu -cdrom /opt/win2k.iso -hda /opt/c.img -m 256 -boot d -win2k-hack First I tried to boot directly from CD. Also I used QCOW disk image but QEMU crashed at a very early stage (before Win2K installer kicked in). Now I'm using RAW disk image and QEMU actually runs up to after initial Win2K installer reads device configuration files. What might be wrong and how to fix it please ? Cheers, Martin PS: QEMU is freshly installed from ports on FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE. hi, i tried that win2k option and qemu still fails with or without it. :-/ i loaded up aio(4) module and while displaying the following ... Nov 12 01:24:38 mb-aw1n-bsd kernel: WARNING: Network stack Giant-free, but aio requires Giant. Nov 12 01:24:38 mb-aw1n-bsd kernel: Consider adding 'options NET_WITH_GIANT' or setting debug.mpsafenet=0 ... it actually helped my case and now i'm curiously installing winblows.. ;o) many thanks !! martin ps: i'm cc-ing the lists for archives. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
priority of make/ports options (?) -- FreeBSD Port: sysutils/portconf
Hello, I'm using portconf to set ports' knobs. Also I'm setting some general knobs via make.conf. Now I've run into this situation: - i've got WITH_GECKO=seamonkey in /etc/make.conf - yelp from new gnome 2.16 does not build with knob above. therefore in /usr/local/etc/ports.conf i set: x11/yelp: WITH_MAN | WITH_INFO | USE_GECKO=xulrunner Unfortunately it does not work as I intended -- when I `portinstall gnome2-lite` it tries to build yelp WITH_GECKO=seamonkey. :-/ How can I solve this pls ?? How can I specify a general knob and then override it for some ports ? Cheers, Martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kern.maxfiles exceeded soon after KDE or Gnome started
Hello list, I've installed KDE 3.5.4 and Gnome 2.14 on a new GENERIC installation of 6.2-PRERELEASE. Both desktop environments syslog error about exceeding kern.maxfiles limit soon after their started. While with Window Maker and many open apps, and even with Xfce 4.2, I usually have between 200 to 500 kern.openfiles, kern.maxfiles (defaults to 1064) is obviously too low for KDE/Gnome or I'm running into an issue or sth. As I haven't noticed recommendation on kern.maxfiles on project pages nor during installation of the ports, I'd like to ask the community what are the sane recommended numbers ?? Regards, Martin PS: Please CC me as I'm not on the lists. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where to set SSL compile time cipher string ?
Hi, I'm not sure I understood this correctly but at http://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/ciphers.html I've read something about cipher list and defaults etc. And I would like to tell my system to build SSL with ``high'' encryption cipher suites. Where can I set this preference pls ?? I've searched through make.conf and man pages but haven't found anything. Cheers, Martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fstab (local) mount -- FreeBSD Port: sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs
Hello, This is from CurlFtpFS FAQ: # *How can I make CurlFtpFS mount automatically at startup?* You can add it to /etc/fstab. Example: curlftpfs#ftp.host.com /mnt/host fuse rw,uid=500,user,noauto 0 0 However, it does not work on FreeBSD -- mount fails with this complain: mount: exec mount_fusefs not found in /sbin:/usr/sbin: No such file or directory Of course, we have it here: /usr/local/sbin/mount_fusefs Is there any workaround or could this be fixed/amended somehow pls ?? Cheers, Martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: priority of make/ports options (?) -- FreeBSD Port: sysutils/portconf
Doug Barton wrote: martinko wrote: Hello, I'm using portconf to set ports' knobs. Also I'm setting some general knobs via make.conf. Now I've run into this situation: - i've got WITH_GECKO=seamonkey in /etc/make.conf - yelp from new gnome 2.16 does not build with knob above. therefore in /usr/local/etc/ports.conf i set: x11/yelp: WITH_MAN | WITH_INFO | USE_GECKO=xulrunner Unfortunately it does not work as I intended -- when I `portinstall gnome2-lite` it tries to build yelp WITH_GECKO=seamonkey. :-/ How can I solve this pls ?? How can I specify a general knob and then override it for some ports ? Don't set global knobs in make.conf. Set them in ports.conf like this: *:WITH_GECKO=seamonkey x11/yelp:WITH_MAN | WITH_INFO | USE_GECKO=xulrunner That should give you the precedence that you need. hth, Doug Doug, thank you for the idea! Meanwhile, when I was going to check it, I found out that I mistyped (originally) my knob -- it should be WITH_GECKO=xulrunner (not USE_GECKO) -- and it works now, too! :-) Anyway, I'm going to move port related knobs from make.conf to ports.conf (which wasn't available at the time I populated my make.conf). With regards, Martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fstab (local) mount -- FreeBSD Port: sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs
Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 09:10:54PM +0200, martinko wrote: Hello, This is from CurlFtpFS FAQ: # *How can I make CurlFtpFS mount automatically at startup?* You can add it to /etc/fstab. Example: curlftpfs#ftp.host.com /mnt/host fuse rw,uid=500,user,noauto 0 0 However, it does not work on FreeBSD -- mount fails with this complain: mount: exec mount_fusefs not found in /sbin:/usr/sbin: No such file or directory Of course, we have it here: /usr/local/sbin/mount_fusefs Is there any workaround or could this be fixed/amended somehow pls ?? Looks like you need to add /usr/local/sbin to your path. jerry Hi, I do not think that is the case: $ env | grep PATH PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/mato/bin It seems that mount(8) is hardcoded or something to look only in those two directories, ignoring any /usr/local/sbin stuff. So the original question remains -- what can be done about it ?? M. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
running windows applications and making use of existing ms windows installation
Hello list, I've been reading for some time about VMWare, Wine, Qemu, Bochs and some others, but I'm still not sure which one would (best) fit my needs: I've got a dual boot and I would like to make use of existing Windows (XP) installation, not having to create a new virtual disk/system and install everything from scratch. Can I use existing Windows installation with some of the existing emulation software ?? I would appreciate any suggestions, experiences, how-to's, links, etc. Many thanks! Martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD
Mike Friedman wrote: I'm running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE and I want to run a current Oracle client-only with encryption support. First, I installed the Oracle client port, which represents Oracle 7. But my database support person tells me that's quite old and, in fact, he couldn't be sure it would work (especially the encryption part) with the Oracle database I'd be using (which he helps support). And I was getting some strange symptoms when I tested it. So, he recommended that I download the Oracle 10g Client for Linux. Since my FreeBSD system is configured for Linux compatibility, I'm hoping this will work. However, I can't even get the Installer to complete! It keeps telling me that I may not have enough space in my root partition, even though I'm not trying to install into the root partition. (The partition in which I'm installing has lots of space). In addition, I should say that the machine on which this Oracle client will be installed is not running X Windows. This means I can't use the installation menus, so I've been running the Installation tool with a 'response file'. The response file, however, doesn't have much flexibility. In particular, when I'm told I may not have enough space, it asks me if I want to continue, but there's no way for me to reply 'yes' from the response file. In any case, based on the installation logs, it really looks like the Installation tool is looking at the root partition for how much space is available. I've found in the FreeBSD handbook an article on installing Oracle 8.0. But it appears that there have been changes with 10g. Also, those instructions seem to assume a server install, so they talk about setting some shared memory values and other things that may not apply to me anyway. Do I have any other options? I don't want to install the full Oracle package (client and server), just the client, so that I can write some perl scripts to query a remote Oracle database. Any suggestions? Thanks. Mike Mike, have you considered linux-oracle-instantclient-* ports ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh tunnel - remote access through nat
Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: On Tuesday 25 July 2006 20:03, Drew wrote: Hi, I've got a box that's nat'd out to the internet. It is occassionally neccessary for me to access this box remotely. The obvious answer is: ssh -R :localhost:22 remote.box cat run from the nat'd box where remote box is a place I pretty much always have access too from anywhere, anytime. The problem is that the connection between these two boxes is famously unreliable - so I need to ensure that this connection stays available. Unfortunately, the procedure for this is not obvious to me. I've thought about a cron job, as the connection would simply fail if it couldn't bind to on the remote box to listen. But I'm thinking there has to be something that makes more sense. Suggestions? Feedback? Thanks in advance for any pointers. you can do something like this in bourne-like shells: while true; do ssh -N ... sleep 1 done and something like this in csh: while ( 1 ) ... end from ssh manual: -N Do not execute a remote command. This is useful for just for- warding ports (protocol version 2 only). The sleep command is used to add a little delay in case there is some- thing really wrong and ssh returns immediately, resulting in looping very fast. Then you just have to ensure that ssh will be aware of a dropped connection (by the means of keep-alives) and exit. You can do this with ssh, but you have configure keep-alives on both machines, client and server. An alternative method would be ipfw keep-alives for dynamic rules and you have to configure it only on the box you're ssh'ing from. It works very nice. In both cases you have to use public key authentication in order to log on automatically after a network failure. I guess it's already set up. A few pointers, read ssh, sshd, ssh-keygen and ipfw manuals HTH, Nikos Hello, I was just thinking along these lines this evening -- putting ssh in loop so that the tunnel is recreated whenever connection drops. However, I'd like to automate it somehow so that the machine creating tunnel can be restarted and it tries to open up tunnel when it boots up. The thing is that if I just simply create an rc script to achieve this, the script is run under root and ssh cannot make use of public key authentication which is set up now for a user running it manually. Or is there a way to change identity somehow or to run an rc script under different user account ?? Cheers, Martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh tunnel - remote access through nat
Chuck Swiger wrote: On Oct 10, 2006, at 2:55 PM, martinko wrote: [ ... ] The thing is that if I just simply create an rc script to achieve this, the script is run under root and ssh cannot make use of public key authentication which is set up now for a user running it manually. Or is there a way to change identity somehow or to run an rc script under different user account ?? Of course. One can use su - to run a command under another user, or use the ssh -i option to pass the user's identity (ie, their SSH private key) directly... ---Chuck su(1) usually asks for password. but it does not when run by root, of course. :-) i like `ssh -i`, too. only that i'll have to check whether it won't complain that identity file ownership doesn't match user running it. (which would be root i expect) also, i've been kindly reminded of cron(8) and its @reboot option. thank you all for your input! (i'd better go to bed now..;)) m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
moving from startx to wdm -- how to make x11 not to listen on tcp ??
Hello, I've been using startx / .xinitrc to start up X11 up till now and I made sure startx ran X11 with -nolisten tcp. Now I'm moving to WDM and I'm not sure how to tell X11 not to listen on port 6000. :-/ What is the best way to achieve this, please ? Cheers, Martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Directory and file comparison tool for X?
Norberto Meijome wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to compare directories (recursively) showing what files are different,etc. meld ( textproc/meld ) can do this to some extent, showing missing files,etc, but not showing what files are different withoug having to open each file and do a diff. There is a little app for Win32 called Beyond Compare (commercial, written in Delphi) , from Scooter Software (www.scootersoftware.com) which does all this - i need an similar tool :) Any suggestions? thanks in advance, Beto try these (from ports): dirdiff tkdiff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ripping enhanced audio CDs
Mac Newbold wrote: This has finally caused me enough grief that I'm going to ask about it and see if there's something I'm doing wrong or some nice solution to this really annyoing problem. I'm on a 5-STABLE box, currently 5.5-PRERELEASE. I use cdparanoia and lame (via abcde) to rip my CDs to MP3. (This has happened to me with other rippers, like cdda2wav, IIRC, also.) Whenever I try to rip an enhanced CD that has one or more data tracks along with the audio tracks, it crashes the computer when it gets near the enhanced tracks. It has happened on a wide variety of CDs, all enhanced, and over a long period of time. It is very repeatable. Even if I ask the ripper to rip only the track prior to the enhanced track, it still crashes when it gets about 90-95% through the track. Even if I try to break out at that point, it still crashes the box. Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD HARDWARE ERROR asc=0x08 ascq=0x01 error=0 Jun 14 11:27:21 mybox kernel: acd0: FAILURE - READ_CD ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x64 ascq=0x00 error=0 Jun 14 11:27:22 mybox last message repeated 11 times I know has happened to me on both CD-ROM/RW drives and on my atapicam DVD+/-RW drive. I seem to remember it happening on 4-STABLE boxes too, with widely different hardware (different mobo makers, chipsets, etc.) Does anyone know what causes this or what the fix is? Has anyone else had this problem and found a suitable workaround? Right now the only workaround I've found is to start ripping the track, and let it crash the computer, then encode the track when it boots back up. Not a very happy workaround, as I have to fsck every time. :( Any help or suggestions you can offer are greatly appreciated! Thanks, Mac -- Mac NewboldMNE - Mac Newbold Enterprises, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.macnewbold.com/ ___ well, it has happened to me last week. but until now i've been under impression it was because of copy-protection. but hey, it happened right there before the end of the last track which was followed by data track. the cd was depeche mode playing the angel from 2005. the cover says it's copy protected. still i haven't had any issue grabbing the whole disc but the last track. crashing my system is very bad indeed. shouldn't happen, never. the sw used was abcde with cdparanoia. regards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
portsnap recreates /usr/ports for no apparent reason
hello, i've just discovered strange and unexpected behaviour of portsnap: i configured sudo to allow me to run the script with the following contents: /usr/sbin/portsnap fetch /usr/sbin/portsnap update /usr/local/sbin/portversion -v -l /usr/local/sbin/portaudit -Fda to be precise -- i allow my user to run (via sudo) any of the programs above plus the script itself. now when i first ran the script as a normal user via sudo, portsnap deleted and recreated the whole /usr/ports directory structure. subsequent runs went as expected. then i ran the script from root as i had been always doing and again portsnap deleted and recreated the whole ports directory structure. i guess this is not intended right? or am i missing something here? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla / seamonkey -- unable to install forecastfox for a regular user
Lowell Gilbert wrote: martinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: since i discovered forecastfox extension i've been trying and unable to install it on freebsd. i've tried many times different versions of mozilla suite and seamonkey now but to no avail. i can install it for root if the browser is run by root but when i try to install it as a regular user the installation is canceled sometime in the end (that is the extension is downloaded, maybe installation begin and then a window displays a message saying installation canceled). this has been the case since freebsd 5.3 or 5.4, now i'm running 6.1. does someone know how to solve this pls ?? any other thoughts or suggestions pls ?? It's finicky about versions, but it certainly works fine with Firefox 1.5... hello lowell, i don't think this has anything to do with versions. i have tried many versions of forecastfox from addons.mozilla.org on several 1.7.x versions of mozilla and i have tried it on the same versions of mozilla on freebsd and gentoo and winxp. it worked ok everytime and everywhere except on freebsd. therefore i suspect there might be an issue in freebsd mozilla/seamonkey port or an issue in forecastfox that is run into on freebsd only. what do you say? or am i missing something here? many thanks, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cvsup verses Portsnap
Aren Olvalde Tyr wrote:
Portmanager already has this I believe. You can add config options to
the portmanager config file and it will use them when building things.
For example:
#
# custom settings #
# remove # to use #
#
#textproc/docproj|JADETEX=no|
#java/jdk14|-DMINIMAL|
#textproc/libxml2|THREADS=off SCHEMA=on MEM_DEBUG=off XMLLINT_HIST=off
THREAD_ALLOC=off|
#
#
##
##do not let portmanager update the following ports
#IGNORE|editors/openoffice-1.1|
#IGNORE|java/jdk14|
But does it dynamically generate an editable list of all available
configuration knobs for all ports that can be set?
If it doesn't, it doesn't have what I am ideally looking for, since you still
have to manually poke around in the appropriate Makefile[s] to determine what
(if any) knobs you want to set in the first place. The general concept was
discussed on one of the other lists (freebsd-ports I think), but basically it
consisted of having a tool that would generate a set of dynamically created
configuration files that list _all_ available knobs for all ports and make it
very easy to set/unset them by simply editing the appropriate config file.
When you update your ports tree, there would be a way to get the tool to
dynamically update (whilst preserving your settings where they are still
applicable) all the configuration files to reflect any changes.
I want a tool that will very easily allow me to see what knobs are available
for many different ports, without having to manually grep around in the
Makefiles.
So, for example, you might have a master configuration file:
# ports.master.conf
# Global ports configuration file
# Define global build options:
all {
IPVG = no
X11 = no
}
accessibility {
file-ports.accessibility.conf
}
graphics {
file-ports.graphics.conf
}
foobar {
file-ports.foo.conf
}
Then, under the particular port category config file - say
ports.graphics.conf - you would have the configuration knobs for all those
ports in that category.
snip
gimp {
WITH_DEBUG = no
WITH_PYTHON = no
WITHOUT_PRINT = no
WITH_MP = no
WITH_HTML_HELP_BROWSER = yes
GNOME_ENABLED = no
}
snip
Selecting a knob then becomes as simple as setting the knob = yes in the
config file. You would then simply use the tool to install the port (it would
probably call another tool, such as portupgrade or portmaster to actually do
the install), and it would automagically set the appropriate -DKNOB
settings .
My intention is to write such a tool entirely in /bin/sh so that no extra
dependencies are required.
I'm still currently deciding how best to design it, but I'm inclined towards
integrating it with portmaster since that it a very nice well designed sh
tool for port management tasks.
So far I've only just started, at the moment it just generates a basic config
file.
And if it turns out that portmanager can do something similar to the above, I
will probably still create the tool as an interesting shell programming
exercise :)
Aren.
i'm eagerly waiting for it.. and i'm sure i'm not the only one.. good
luck aren!
m:)
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Re: Please explain make -j to my little brain
Bill Moran wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2006 11:12:33 +0100 Ashley Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I've read the following snippet out of the handbook hundreds of times and still don't understand it. I even asked one of the developers I work with and he was baffled too. It is now possible to specify a -j option to make which will cause it to spawn several simultaneous processes. This is most useful on multi-CPU machines. However, since much of the compiling process is IO bound rather than CPU bound it is also useful on single CPU machines. What I want to know is, if compiling is IO bound, and you increase the number of simultaneous processes compiling your world, where do the extra processes get data from if the IO bandwidth is all used. Have I misunderstood the term IO bound? Please help, I feel like a right tool. The key to that quote is the placement of the term much. As in much of the compiling process ... not all of it. Generally, while one process is waiting on disk IO, another can be using the CPU. As a result, you can get closer to 100% usage of the machine, which won't happen if you batch the whole thing. Just as a side line... does anybody know the best -j value to build world on a 4-core box? I generally quadruple the # of cores, so I'd use -j16. I couldn't tell you authoritatively what is _best_, though. hi, i remember from mailing lists there used to be a problem with using -j while compiling kernel or world or ports or sth. is it resolved now pls? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mozilla / seamonkey -- unable to install forecastfox for a regular user
hello! since i discovered forecastfox extension i've been trying and unable to install it on freebsd. i've tried many times different versions of mozilla suite and seamonkey now but to no avail. i can install it for root if the browser is run by root but when i try to install it as a regular user the installation is canceled sometime in the end (that is the extension is downloaded, maybe installation begin and then a window displays a message saying installation canceled). this has been the case since freebsd 5.3 or 5.4, now i'm running 6.1. does someone know how to solve this pls ?? any other thoughts or suggestions pls ?? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 6.9 issue -- option ZAxisMapping -- 4 5 vs 4 5 6 7
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: martinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if i scroll my mouse wheel too fast, i'm suddenly moving in history instead of scrolling the page. one quick finger movement is enough to trigger this. very annoying. Here's an entry in Novell's bugzilla for a similar issue in Linux: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=144682 I believe the information is equally applicable to FreeBSD. To translate and summarize, ums(4) needs to learn to distinguish between IntelliMouse and IntelliMouse Explorer, becaue they have slightly different protocols; moused(8) already knows about this and handles it correctly, but only for PS/2 mice. DES DES, i'm not quite sure this is the source of my issue as i have no an intellimouse (pls see my original message). m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to temporarily override page style/appearance ?
hi! i'm looking for an easy way of changing an html page appearance in mozilla/seamonkey browsers. i know i can change default colours in preferences-appearance-colors but that is global and permanent. i'd rather have something like there's in opera where you can easily apply user defined theme/stylesheet per window/tab. is there a similar extension for seamonkey/mozilla pls ?? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: looking for torsmo program replacement
Jimmie James wrote: i had been using sysutils/torsmo happily until i upgraded xorg to 6.9. since then torsmo is not functioning properly, usually after a few minutes its window output looses text and most graphics etc. maybe xorg is not the (only) reason but as i upgraded all my ports after longer time it's hard to say. (actually i've seen this behaviour on gentoo since long long time ago.) so my question is what are the (similar) alternatives to torsmo pls ?? cheers, martin Conky, it's almost excatly like torsmo, and works with Xorg/XFCE4 easy, not searching for rootwindow ID. #cat /usr/ports/sysutils/conky/pkg-descr Conky is an advanced, highly configurable system monitor for X WWW:http://conky.sourceforge.net/ thanks! i've just installed it and it run w/o config file but since i copied the sample config file to ~/.conkyrc it crashes with segmentation fault. :-( i'll try to investigate tmrw or so what options if any makes it unhappy. the crash shouldn't happen, though, of course. m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to identify / list running java applications ?
hello, when running azureus (or likely other java applications) all one can see among running processes is java process which i expect is jvm. how can i find/identify running java programs ?? (something like `ps ax | grep azureus` or `pgrep azureus`) cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
looking for torsmo program replacement
hello ppl, i had been using sysutils/torsmo happily until i upgraded xorg to 6.9. since then torsmo is not functioning properly, usually after a few minutes its window output looses text and most graphics etc. maybe xorg is not the (only) reason but as i upgraded all my ports after longer time it's hard to say. (actually i've seen this behaviour on gentoo since long long time ago.) so my question is what are the (similar) alternatives to torsmo pls ?? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 6.9 issue -- options AGPMode and AGPFastWrite
Eric Anholt wrote: On Sun, 2006-05-07 at 21:51 +0200, martinko wrote: hello list! i've just upgraded X11 from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 and run into the following issue: after starting x11 for the first time the screen went black and console was inaccessible (i had to reboot). when i tried the generated xorg.conf (`Xorg -configure`) it worked. so i started comparing my old config file with the new one and found out that the following two options i had been using are the root of the problem: Option AGPMode 4 # ++ 2005-02-11 mato Option AGPFastWrite # ++ 2005-02-11 mato they just cannot be set both at the same time now. and i wonder why. and also i wonder which one to comment out and which one to keep (if any at all). Comment them both out and live a happier life with a more stable computer. In my testing (and as far as I know, I'm the only one who has done performance comparisons with AGPMode), AGPMode 4 provided no meaningful performance improvement except under contrived circumstances. AGPFastWrite is the most unstable option ever, and I couldn't benchmark because it crashes. We've threatened to just disconnect these options upstream and not tell anyone, because they're that harmful but people seem to think they're secret performance sauce that the developers don't want to give them. eric, thank you! could i take this opportunity and ask you about 2 other options i've been using? -- EnablePageFlip and DynamicClocks -- are they safe/useful? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 6.9 issue -- option ZAxisMapping -- 4 5 vs 4 5 6 7
Robert Huff wrote: martinko writes: i've just upgraded X11 from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 and run into the following issue: I have had this: if i scroll my mouse wheel too fast, i'm suddenly moving in history instead of scrolling the page. one quick finger movement is enough to trigger this. very annoying. happen for over a year using: huff@ usbdevs -v port 2 addr 3: low speed, power 100 mA, config 1, Microsoft IntelliMouse® Explorer(0x0095), Microsoft(0x045e), rev 4.24 and XF86Config: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option Protocol auto Option Buttons 7 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Emulate3Buttons Option ChordMiddle EndSection Robert Huff robert, i'm not sure i got it. do your options fix the issue pls? and, as i couldn't find them in xorg.conf(5), what do Buttons and ChordMiddle do ?? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Writing to a mounted NTFS drive
Kevin Kinsey wrote: GiL A. Virtucio wrote: Hi, I have a mounted an NTFS partition that is set as rw in fstab. I can read the data stored in the drive but I cannot store new files on that drive. Anybody here encountered this before? Or can anybody please suggest a way to make that drive writable? Yes; I imagine that *everybody* who has tried this has encountered this (or something similar) before... If you RTF(riendly ;-)M, you'll see this: -- WRITING There is limited writing ability. Limitations: file must be nonresident and must not contain any sparces (uninitialized areas); compressed files are also not supported. The file name must not contain multibyte characters. -- A port exists (ntfsprogs) that *might* write NTFS a tad better, but I'm not sure that it's at all guaranteed. I'm certainly not going to do so ;-) IIRC, when you look up proprietary at Wikipedia, NTFS is a synonym. :-D Kevin Kinsey quite interesting.. http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: seamonkey -- building calendar (option)
Garrett Cooper wrote: martinko wrote: hello! i've just upgraded from mozilla (1.7.12) to seamonkey (1.0.1) and discovered the following issue: there's WITH_CALENDAR make switch in the port which is/was supposed to turn building of mozilla with calendar module. i've been happily using it with mozilla suite. the switch is still in seamonkey's makefile but i haven't got calendar module after compilation of the port. :-( /note that i'm running seamonkey on freebsd 6.1-rc, after just reinstalling all my ports from scratch./ any thoughts or suggestions pls ?? cheers, martin For now you can just download the extension from Mozilla's site http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/. -Garrett garrett, have you actually tried it pls ? i'm asking because, on my work laptop running winxp, i upgraded from mozilla to seamonkey and therefore i had to upgrade calendar extension too, at which point i found out it is not functional at all (and eventually i had to reinstall seamonkey to get rid of it). m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org
Ceri Davies wrote: On 9/5/06 15:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:01 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote: I have to agree with the original poster. The logo is crap, and so is the font they've started to use since the announcement of FreeBSD6.1-RELEASE. At Me Too. At first I thought it was just a petty complaint. But if you're trying to sell FreeBSD to a boss or customer, a serious, business-like web site surely helps. The new one seems to borrow too much from the hax0r community's appearance. And the font overflows and looks like complete shit on my browser; usually this would just be blamed on using a Non Microsoft Browser (FireFox on windoze) but until we have IE for FBSD, it seems a legit complaint. The font overflows? We didn't change the font. Ceri well, i would expect the page to scale somehow better when i try to increase font size in mozilla. but if it can't even render properly when i choose officially via large text size option right on the page, then i must conclude it's not good and not ready for the public. :-( martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/05/2006 11:42:17: hi, On 5/9/06, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then take this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's just flame bait here. I don't want a chat, I want to know where I can find out how we ended up with such a terrible logo. It seems people think it's a big joke? The new logo already looks dated, and will only get worse with time. This happened ages ago and was announced in the news section of the website See - http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/result/ John it was only announced after the selection was over. freebsd users were not involved. this is not right. :-( also, the other entries were not published. so we can't really compare. it seems like the whole thing was intended to be quiet and public was just left out of the process. martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org
Ceri Davies wrote: On 10/5/06 23:37, martinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ceri Davies wrote: On 9/5/06 15:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:01 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote: I have to agree with the original poster. The logo is crap, and so is the font they've started to use since the announcement of FreeBSD6.1-RELEASE. At Me Too. At first I thought it was just a petty complaint. But if you're trying to sell FreeBSD to a boss or customer, a serious, business-like web site surely helps. The new one seems to borrow too much from the hax0r community's appearance. And the font overflows and looks like complete shit on my browser; usually this would just be blamed on using a Non Microsoft Browser (FireFox on windoze) but until we have IE for FBSD, it seems a legit complaint. The font overflows? We didn't change the font. Ceri well, i would expect the page to scale somehow better when i try to increase font size in mozilla. but if it can't even render properly when i choose officially via large text size option right on the page, then i must conclude it's not good and not ready for the public. :-( That's an issue for www@ - over there. It also has nothing to do with the logo. Ceri sure, i was replying on rendering issue (font overflows). anyway, i'm sending this to www@ as you suggested. martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org
Bill Moran wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2006 13:49:20 + Kep Woof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Take a look at the netbsd logo if you want to see how it's done. It means something. It's neat. It represents the project. What we (the users) seem to have ended up with is a fussy and unelegent logo that has nothing to do with anythin, save for a pair of post-modern ice cream cones harking back to beastie. My brother went to school for graphic arts. When the contest was announced, we spend _several_weeks_ brainstorming, he and I, trying to come up with something that looked as cool as the NetBSD logo, while representing FreeBSD. We finally gave up without making a submission. The problem is that NetBSD (and OpenBSD as well, for that matter) somehow have more culture to them on the graphic arts side. NetBSD has long had the image of daemons raising the flag (mirroring the WWII photograph) which translated nicely into a logo. OpenBSD has long had the Blowfish, which can be rendered a number of interesting ways. And FreeBSD has what? The Beastie ... but the Beastie is *BSD in general, so what else is there ... ? The simple fact is, when you look at the new logo it only makes sense if you previously understand what it represents. The effect is that it represents nothing in particular, which is why it fails so fantasically. What are the key values of FreeBSD? I'd guess something like Freedom, Stability, Robustness, quality. Those values are not communicated in the new logo, and I think that's something that somebody with freebsd.org in their email address should seriously address. You're exactly right. Somebody other than you should take care of this. This is everyone's fault but yours. If you'd been in the loop from the start, this never would have happened. My goodness, why didn't we consult you earlier ... you obviously have all the answers. This is free software man, if you don't like it, fix it yourself. If you can't fix it, _ask_ someone else, or put up some cash to pay someone who can. But quit whining. You are a Troll. If you weren't a Troll, you'd have taken this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of staying on this list. bill, i'm afraid, this is not quite true. as for me, for instance, i had some objections and comments on logo and font as originally published. but i didn't get any serious responses on mailing lists. later i tried to get in touch with the creator and/or responsible people but to no avail. clearly, in this case it hasn't been easy for community to reach the right people nor it has been easy to influence the whole selection and stuff. m:( Go use Microsoft, they pay professional graphic artists big bucks to design their logos and their marketing materials, and you fund that with your Windows license fees. Or, _contribute_ something back to the wonderful free software community other than a lengthy email thread of whining. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 6.9 issue -- option XkbOptions and missing keyboard layout
Dejan Lesjak wrote: On Monday 08 May 2006 02:34, martinko wrote: hello list! i've just upgraded X11 from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 and after starting up X11 it displays a message saying that xkbcomp reports that it cannot find file pc/sk_qwerty. and therefore it reverts back to default or something. this is very strange because i've been using the setting since X11 6.7. it seems the file is missing in the latest X11. (?) note that when it fails i can't, for instance, switch to console via ctrl+alt+F?. here is the setting in question from my xorg.conf: Option XkbLayout us,sk_qwerty # ++ 2005-03-13 mato Try Option XkbLayout us,sk(qwerty) Dejan dejan, thanks, that seems to work! :-)) i haven't noticed it mentioned anywhere, though. :( the other issue i've just noticed is that my keyboard layout switching doesn't work as it used to. this is my setting i've been using: Option XkbOptions grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:ralt note that i checked your previous advice in gnome via its panel. led was turned on. so the problem is with grp:shift_toggle only. any advice on this one pls ?? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
seamonkey -- building calendar (option)
hello! i've just upgraded from mozilla (1.7.12) to seamonkey (1.0.1) and discovered the following issue: there's WITH_CALENDAR make switch in the port which is/was supposed to turn building of mozilla with calendar module. i've been happily using it with mozilla suite. the switch is still in seamonkey's makefile but i haven't got calendar module after compilation of the port. :-( /note that i'm running seamonkey on freebsd 6.1-rc, after just reinstalling all my ports from scratch./ any thoughts or suggestions pls ?? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top for tcpdump
Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Apr 20), Low Kian Seong said: Hmmm the port for trafshow seems unable to fetch the tgz file ? Probably need to ammend to point it here : http://www.mirrors.wiretapped.net/security/network-monitoring/trafshow/ ? I was able to download it just fine: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) /usr/ports/net/trafshow make fetch = trafshow-5.2.3.tgz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. = Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.nsk.su/pub/RinetSoftware/. trafshow-5.2.3.tgz100% of 139 kB 13 kBps 00m00s Extra mirror locations never hurt, though. doesn't work here and now either :-( = trafshow-5.2.3.tgz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. = Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.nsk.su/pub/RinetSoftware/. fetch: ftp://ftp.nsk.su/pub/RinetSoftware/trafshow-5.2.3.tgz: Not logged in = Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/. fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/trafshow-5.2.3.tgz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) = Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this = port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again. *** Error code 1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: port building linking
Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: On 4/21/06, ph rhole oper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to build a port (mail/cyrus-imapd23) and add support for the mit-kerberos implementation to it. It needs to link to the -lkrb5 library.There are two libkrb5*.so in my system: the heimdal one (/usr/lib/libkrb5*.so) and the mit one (/usr/local/lib/libkrb5*.so). The configure script, searching for -lkrb5, finds /usr/lib/libkrb5.so first, and links to the heimdal implementation. Is there any way i can force it to only link against /usr/local/lib/libkrb5.so?I need the mit implementation. simon. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you talking about cyrus-imapd or cyrus-sasl? cyrus-sasl has some options in its Makefile, like KRB5_HOME. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] speaking of cyrus, i've recently spotted new entry in my passwd and have been wondering where/when did it get there.. ?? of course i don't know of installing anything called cyrus.. m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote screen control software - recommendations please
Graham Bentley wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions on this. Perhaps I should have worded my question better (well, maybe not on a FreeBSD list ;) I am looking to control Windogs (yuk!) Desktops remotely (and as secure as possible - lol !) Thanks i also used tightvnc and run it through an ssh tunnel from fbsd to win2k. if you play with parameters it's quite responsive imho. other than that, i would go for nx, but you need a unix/linux proxy sever as you can't connect directly to windows. check their website for explanation and more info or use google to find more articles.. martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
seamonkey issue -- theme switching
hello! i've just upgraded from mozilla (1.7.12) to seamonkey (1.0.1) and unfortunately run into the following issue: theme change does not last for longer than 1 restart -- i change the theme (to pinball theme http://mozilla-themes.schellen.net/), restart seamonkey as suggested, new theme is being used but after another restart of seamonkey i'm back with the previous or original (?) seamonkey theme (modern). /note that i'm running seamonkey on freebsd 6.1-rc, after just reinstalling all my ports from scratch but keeping my old mozilla profile./ any thoughts or suggestions pls ?? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: port building linking
Reko Turja wrote: speaking of cyrus, i've recently spotted new entry in my passwd and have been wondering where/when did it get there.. ?? of course i don't know of installing anything called cyrus.. If you have installed CMU sasl, that does add cyrus user as well. -Reko i'm not aware of it. it might have been installed as a dependency, though, i guess. cheers, m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: port building linking
martinko wrote: Reko Turja wrote: speaking of cyrus, i've recently spotted new entry in my passwd and have been wondering where/when did it get there.. ?? of course i don't know of installing anything called cyrus.. If you have installed CMU sasl, that does add cyrus user as well. -Reko i'm not aware of it. it might have been installed as a dependency, though, i guess. cheers, m. aahh.. mail-notification is the culprit ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X11 6.9 issue -- options AGPMode and AGPFastWrite
hello list! i've just upgraded X11 from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 and run into the following issue: after starting x11 for the first time the screen went black and console was inaccessible (i had to reboot). when i tried the generated xorg.conf (`Xorg -configure`) it worked. so i started comparing my old config file with the new one and found out that the following two options i had been using are the root of the problem: Option AGPMode 4 # ++ 2005-02-11 mato Option AGPFastWrite # ++ 2005-02-11 mato they just cannot be set both at the same time now. and i wonder why. and also i wonder which one to comment out and which one to keep (if any at all). note that i'm running freebsd 6.1-rc, after just reinstalling all my ports from scratch. for details on my graphics card pls see below. any thoughts or suggestions pls ?? cheers, martin -- $ grep -i radeon /var/log/Xorg.0.log (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] rev 0, Mem @ 0xd000/27, 0xff8f/16, I/O @ 0xc800/8, BIOS @ 0xff8c/17 (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP), ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QY (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon VE/7000 QZ (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LZ (AGP), ATI Radeon IGP320 (A3) 4136, ATI Radeon IGP320M (U1) 4336, ATI Radeon IGP330/340/350 (A4) 4137, ATI Radeon IGP330M/340M/350M (U2) 4337, ATI Radeon 7000 IGP (A4+) 4237, ATI Radeon Mobility 7000 IGP 4437, ATI FireGL 8700/8800 QH (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 QL (AGP), ATI Radeon 9100 QM (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BB (AGP), ATI Radeon 8500 AIW BC (AGP), ATI Radeon 7500 QW (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon 7500 QX (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon 9000/PRO If (AGP/PCI), ATI Radeon 9000 Ig (AGP/PCI), ATI FireGL Mobility 9000 (M9) Ld (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lf (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 (M9) Lg (AGP), ATI Radeon 9100 IGP (A5) 5834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9100 IGP (U3) 5835, ATI Radeon 9100 PRO IGP 7834, ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 IGP 7835, ATI Radeon 9200PRO 5960 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5961 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200 5962 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP), ATI FireMV 2200 (PCI), ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C61 (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C63 (AGP), ATI Radeon 9500 AD (AGP), ATI Radeon 9500 AE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600TX AF (AGP), ATI FireGL Z1 AG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 Pro ND (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700/9500Pro NE (AGP), ATI Radeon 9700 NF (AGP), ATI FireGL X1 NG (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AP (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600SE AQ (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600XT AR (AGP), ATI Radeon 9600 AS (AGP), ATI FireGL T2 AT (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600/9700 (M10/M11) NP (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NQ (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M11) NR (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 (M10) NS (AGP), ATI FireGL Mobility T2e (M11) NV (AGP), ATI Radeon 9650, ATI Radeon 9800SE AH (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AI (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 AJ (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 AK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800PRO NH (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800 NI (AGP), ATI FireGL X2 NK (AGP), ATI Radeon 9800XT NJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X600 (RV380) 3E50 (PCIE), ATI Radeon Mobility X600 (M24) 3150 (PCIE), ATI FireGL M24 GL 3154 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X300 (RV370) 5B60 (PCIE), ATI Radeon X600 (RV370) 5B62 (PCIE), ATI Radeon Mobility M300 (M22) 5460 (PCIE), ATI FireGL M22 GL 5464 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A41 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A42 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5A61 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5A62 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5954 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5974 (PCIE), ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5975 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V5000 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Mobility Radeon X700 (M26) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 PRO (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 XT (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X700 SE (RV410) (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JH (AGP), ATI Radeon X800PRO (R420) JI (AGP), ATI Radeon X800SE (R420) JJ (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JK (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R420) JL (AGP), ATI FireGL X3 (R420) JM (AGP), ATI Radeon Mobility 9800 (M18) JN (AGP), ATI Radeon X800XT (R420) JP (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 SE (R420) (AGP), ATI Radeon X800 (R423) UH (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800PRO (R423) UI (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800LE (R423) UJ (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800SE (R423) UK (PCIE), ATI Radeon X800XT (R423) 5D57 (PCIE), ATI FireGL V7100 (R423) (PCIE),
X11 6.9 issue -- option ZAxisMapping -- 4 5 vs 4 5 6 7
hello list! i've just upgraded X11 from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 and run into the following issue: [note that this was first noticed in seamonkey..] if i scroll my mouse wheel too fast, i'm suddenly moving in history instead of scrolling the page. one quick finger movement is enough to trigger this. very annoying. so it seems to me that the events are interpreted as horizontal movements. i have 1-wheel mouse of the following type, though: kernel: ums0: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse, rev 2.00/11.10, addr 2, iclass 3/1 kernel: ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. and i found out that the new option introduced in X11 6.9 broke it: Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5# ++ 2005-01-18 mato #Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7#!!! the first version (3rd line) was added manually by me long time ago, while the 2nd version (4th line) was automatically generated by new X11 with `Xorg -configure`. since i reverted it from 4 5 6 7 back to 4 5 scrolling just works again like charm. note that i'm running freebsd 6.1-rc, after just reinstalling all my ports from scratch. any thoughts or suggestions pls ?? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X11 6.9 issue -- option XkbOptions and missing keyboard layout
hello list! i've just upgraded X11 from 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 and after starting up X11 it displays a message saying that xkbcomp reports that it cannot find file pc/sk_qwerty. and therefore it reverts back to default or something. this is very strange because i've been using the setting since X11 6.7. it seems the file is missing in the latest X11. (?) note that when it fails i can't, for instance, switch to console via ctrl+alt+F?. here is the setting in question from my xorg.conf: Option XkbLayout us,sk_qwerty # ++ 2005-03-13 mato note that i'm running freebsd 6.1-rc, after just reinstalling all my ports from scratch. any thoughts or suggestions pls ?? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a favorite graphical ftp client?
Jonathan Horne wrote: On Sunday 16 April 2006 20:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would like to ask the list for opinions on a good graphical ftp client for a freebsd desktop. before i try them all, id like to get a few recomendations :) gftp is quite nice imho -- http://gftp.seul.org/ sorry, i should have mentioned i use KDE. will gftp be any trouble to compile, or is it going to pull down the entire gnome to go with it? im really looking for something that works well under KDE. afair, gftp can be compiled against gtk2 or gtk1 or even text mode. and no, it doesn't need the entire gnome. m:) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upcoming release 6.1: old version of some core components
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 05:46:06PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net wrote: I can't answer you main question, but I would say that you can bet your shirt on the fact that there will be no known security issues in the older packages. At least for openssl and openssh you can get latest versions through the ports. Not an option for everything -- I see no zlib for example and I don't believe there's a standard cvs port either. as for zlib i definitely know, that there are 2 security flaws, which can lead to problems when invalid compressed data is feeded. Already fixed as soon as they were published. Are there other reasons to upgrade? my problem also is not the installation of ports/packages/custom compiles, it's more that the operating system components itself are linked against these older libraries an therefore will contain bugs, which may have been already solved. The other side of this is that newer versions are often incompatible (OpenSSL, I'm looking at you), which rules out upgrading the version in a FreeBSD-STABLE branch since it ruins binary compatibility. Kris one may wonder why they change very minor version number/letter only, if the changes are so disturbing.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upcoming release 6.1: old version of some core components
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 08:42:44PM +0200, martinko wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 05:46:06PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net wrote: I can't answer you main question, but I would say that you can bet your shirt on the fact that there will be no known security issues in the older packages. At least for openssl and openssh you can get latest versions through the ports. Not an option for everything -- I see no zlib for example and I don't believe there's a standard cvs port either. as for zlib i definitely know, that there are 2 security flaws, which can lead to problems when invalid compressed data is feeded. Already fixed as soon as they were published. Are there other reasons to upgrade? my problem also is not the installation of ports/packages/custom compiles, it's more that the operating system components itself are linked against these older libraries an therefore will contain bugs, which may have been already solved. The other side of this is that newer versions are often incompatible (OpenSSL, I'm looking at you), which rules out upgrading the version in a FreeBSD-STABLE branch since it ruins binary compatibility. Kris one may wonder why they change very minor version number/letter only, if the changes are so disturbing.. It's more that they don't have the foresight and discipline not to keep breaking interfaces. This may have changed recently, but I think their policy is still until we release openssl 1.0 we make no promises about compatibility. Kris and it feels they're not going to release 1.0 any time soon.. i've been seeing 0.9.something for longer than i can remember. and btw i've always thought of openssl and openssh as somehow coupled/interconnected. but openssl hasn't reached 1.0 while openssh is already past 4. (and again it seems to me openssh changes major numbers not according to major changes but whenever its version reaches x.9.) funny. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Timescale for 6.1-RELEASE...
Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD wrote: -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 April 2006 20:29 To: Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Timescale for 6.1-RELEASE... On 30/03/06, Harrison Peter CSA BIRKENHEAD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realise the answer to this question is when it's ready, but does anyone have a rough idea how close to being ready 6.1 is? Thanks, Peter Harrison I think the closest way of knowing is checking the todo page and when they mostly say resolved it may be close to been ready. Chris Thanks for this Chris - I'll keep an eye on the todo page, and I've bitten the bullet and upgraded to 6-STABLE (6.1-PRERELEASE) in the meantime. Peter i'm afraid todo page is not updated very often. at least this was the case when i was watching it during previous releases. so one was/is left to search through mailing lists for occasional background info.. :-( btw, there used to be a great site publishing summaries of current development -- http://www.xl0.org/FreeBSD/ -- it's been dead for more than 1 yr though :( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Incorrect inline documentation in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf
Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Spil Oss wrote: Thanks a lot, that makes it very clear for me. Would it be a good idea to make that specific in the pkgtools.conf file? There must be more FreeBSD newbies that can run into the same trouble. It seems like a good idea to me but you'd want to get the idea to the author of portupgrade et al. --Alex and note that portupgrade also handles differently ports depending on whether they're being installed directly or indirectly (because of dependency, eg via metaport), and when a package is being installed for the first time or it's being upgraded. :( this behaviour is rather inconsistent and confuses a lot and makes it difficult to easily manage your compilation process and options management, imho. :-( m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to handle 'local' ports/packages?
Alex Zbyslaw wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, that's fine, but how can I have a port on my system that isn't in the ports tree available to the world? I mean, won't anything I add to my local tree be deleted by cvsup'ing? cvsup won't delete things you add, but I believe portsnap does. I have a whole new port, and local patches for another in my /usr/ports tree and they just stay there. hth, --Alex i'm not so sure about portsnap -- i've got my new port in /usr/ports/sysutils and portsnap does not touch it when updating. m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CPUTYPE value
Frederic Van Assche wrote: Hello, What would be the best CPUTYPE setting for a Pentium M 750? pentium-m or pentium4m? Thanks, Frederic pentium-m ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Ports vs. Gentoo Portage (a matter of concept)
On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 17:10:26 -0500, Parv wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote martinko thusly... Norberto Meijome wrote: Hans Nieser wrote: FreeBSD Prospect wrote: ... What I am especially fond of in portage is the USE-flags and the way you can specify then globally and individually for each package and how you can get a nice, short overview of which USE-flags a package uses and which of them are enabled with emerge -pv port. ... there are global USE-flags in FreeBSD too and you also can configure ports individually, but i'd agree that Gentoo way is more transparent. Those USE_* flags are for port creators/maintainers not users/installers; user use of, well, USE_* flags may get you in a trouble. OTOH, WITH_* WITHOUT_* flags lie in user domain. - Parv -- sorry, i had WITH[OUT] flags on my mind, of course.. :o) m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Ports vs. Gentoo Portage (a matter of concept)
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 10:59:49 +1100, Norberto Meijome wrote martinko wrote: i already raised the following issue with pkgtools.sonf here on MLs some time ago but i didn't get a response i'd be happy with: i want to make sure that a certain port will be compiled with a certain make argument/flag. there are MAKE_ARGS in port tools but these are used/applied differently depending on whether the port is compiled directly or indirectly via a metaport and also if it's being compiled for the 1st time or again. :-(( hmm i wasn't aware of those subtleties... portupgrade + pkgtools.conf seem to behave pretty well to me (again, maybe they are not compiling the way I need with no negative side effects that I can notice. besides, i should say i'm using mainly FreeBSD and occasionally i'm playing with Gentoo but i consider the quality and stability of ports provided to be (much) better than that of apps via portage. also, syncing and updating portage tree is much more heavy (by which i mean it takes much longer and downloads much more data) than updating ports collection ah, definitely - fbsd port system seems to me much more stable and well behaved (it works as it should). and coupled with packages, it's just great. (especially since portsnap has appeared). i have to say i still use cvsup...will have to give portsnap a try cvsup is good. especially if you don't upgrade often. OTOH, portsnap is more secure, network load friendly, and works behind proxies. and prepares ports index file for you, too. not to mention that Gentoo's system/base layout is still heavy evolving and frequent changes to the format, contents and location of their /etc files are happening quite so often, which wouldn't make any admin too happy. true. though the system/layout it is evolving to is quite nice, IMHO. the evolving too fast feeling may come from being linux after all ;) Again, i think it's the best distro around for powerusers. Beto i just don't know why they have to reinvent everything. freebsd's config files overriding some defaults are pretty good idea, imho. on gentoo i remember to have to merge my amended config files every time they added/changed something. generally, this is one of the issues i see with linux. every distro tries to reinvent the wheel and do the stuff differently. i think i quite understand desire of their developers to create something new and best, but unix is where it is because of its heritage and stability/compatibility, not because it's been rewritten/reinvented from scratch every so often. well, old unix gurus and developers with many years of experience and knowledge are what i believe set BSDs apart from linux, which reminds me of my young programming days and all that lack of knowledge and experience and all those mistakes i've been through. :o) m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Ports vs. Gentoo Portage (a matter of concept)
Norberto Meijome wrote: Hans Nieser wrote: FreeBSD Prospect wrote: Hi, Reading a lot about FreeBSD recently made me really curious. I know, that the founder of Gentoo (the well known GNU/Linux meta-distribution, which is also based on compiling everything from source) was using FreeBSD for some time, before continuing creating Gentoo, what's why portage (the Gentoo software management system) is generally based on FreeBSD's ports. [.. comparison of ports/portage features ..] I've been running Gentoo on my desktop computer for a few months and FreeBSD on my laptop / server machines. I've been using linux since '95 and freebsd since '98 (more heavily (98% of boxen) since 02)...and I have to say that after using it in production environment, RHE is quite painful to go back to (rpms too limiting,etc,etc) *NOT* trying to flame, just stating my POV .I have to say that Gentoo is definitely an improvement on all that, and I use it in my PVR box (since linux has better support for the hardware :-( ) What I am especially fond of in portage is the USE-flags and the way you can specify then globally and individually for each package and how you can get a nice, short overview of which USE-flags a package uses and which of them are enabled with emerge -pv port. And also how you can find their descriptions without having to dig through Makefiles (although that's becoming less intimidating for me now that I have been using FreeBSD for half a year or so). there are global USE-flags in FreeBSD too and you also can configure ports individually, but i'd agree that Gentoo way is more transparent. you can use pkgtools.conf and the port* tools, you can define variables based on regular expressions (i.e., I have * = [ WITHOUT_IPV6=true] , so no port* enables IPV6. Works quite well. Again, once you have a version of the port that works well for you, just make a package from your installed files and keep a copy of that ;-) *built with portinstall / portupgrade , NOT via the (cd /usr/ports/[category]/[portdir]/make process... make uses /etc/make.conf...but this method definitively lacks the granularity of pkgtools.conf. i already raised the following issue with pkgtools.sonf here on MLs some time ago but i didn't get a response i'd be happy with: i want to make sure that a certain port will be compiled with a certain make argument/flag. there are MAKE_ARGS in port tools but these are used/applied differently depending on whether the port is compiled directly or indirectly via a metaport and also if it's being compiled for the 1st time or again. :-(( B besides, i should say i'm using mainly FreeBSD and occasionally i'm playing with Gentoo but i consider the quality and stability of ports provided to be (much) better than that of apps via portage. also, syncing and updating portage tree is much more heavy (by which i mean it takes much longer and downloads much more data) than updating ports collection (especially since portsnap has appeared). not to mention that Gentoo's system/base layout is still heavy evolving and frequent changes to the format, contents and location of their /etc files are happening quite so often, which wouldn't make any admin too happy. martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the bright idea? fam - gamin
Peter wrote: --- Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/6/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My dependency are all foobared up now, How do I change them all back to fam-2.6.9_6, so I don't have to run pkgdb -F everytime I portupgrade? Remove fam by force and then install gamin. I don't want gamin, what was wrong with fam for fam? What is wrong with running 'pkgdb -F' ? It is there to help you. Run it and tell it to change all fam dependencies to gamin. Are you going to stop crying now? No Here is a thread to keep you busy while you're sulking: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2006-January/029128.html what's wrong with you? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java Virtual Machine
Micah wrote: martinko wrote: Micah wrote: Porpoise Power wrote: Which Java VM is the best for freebsd 5.4, running gnome2, and firefox? James Best Both the native jdk14 and jdk15 provide good Java VMs. jdk15 is newer and might be unstable (hasn't been for me). jdk14 is more tested and is the default java for FreeBSD on i386. HTH, Micah can you have both versions installed ? and how do you choose which one of them to use (for instance in mozilla) ? m. Yes, you can have both installed at the same time. /usr/ports/java/javavmwrapper makes switching JVMs easy using environment variables, however it doesn't seem to support switching browser plugins. For that you'd probably have to switch the symlink in /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins and restart the browser. HTH, Micah hello, i've just tried it and realised it had already been installed as a jdk* dependency. :) however, according to the man page, running the following should select the most native and up-to-date version of java: $ java -version java version 1.4.2-p8 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2-p8-root_21_jan_2006_21_32) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-p8-root_21_jan_2006_21_32, mixed mode) however, i've got newer version installed too: $ cat /usr/local/etc/javavms /usr/local/jdk1.5.0/bin/java # FREEBSD-JDK1.5.0 /usr/local/jdk1.4.2/bin/java # FREEBSD-JDK1.4.2 /usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2/bin/java # Linux-Sun-JDK1.4.2.10 how come 1.5.0 wasn't selected in the example above please ?? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java Virtual Machine
Micah wrote: Porpoise Power wrote: Which Java VM is the best for freebsd 5.4, running gnome2, and firefox? James Best Both the native jdk14 and jdk15 provide good Java VMs. jdk15 is newer and might be unstable (hasn't been for me). jdk14 is more tested and is the default java for FreeBSD on i386. HTH, Micah can you have both versions installed ? and how do you choose which one of them to use (for instance in mozilla) ? m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NX client server
hello, i've installed net/linux-nx-client and net/freenx ports. first i tried to connect to NoMachine's testdrive server but the client crashed with signal 11 somewhere in the middle of the connecting process. then i tried `nxclient --admin` which hanged my whole X11 or window manager (window maker). i had to switch to the console and kill them. for both above i followed http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8538 . next, i installed freenx server but don't know what to do next. i've come across many documents on the net, but all of them are related to different linux distros and they differ substantially. also, i noticed there hasn't been nx user created and the scripts installed contain wrong paths (ie original paths, not the ones used on freebsd). i'm a bit perplexed now. what is the state/status of these ports and is there any howto on freebsd installation please ?? with regards, martin ps: this is freebsd 6-stable and recent ports tree. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop Note on FreeBSD?
Eric Kjeldergaard wrote: On Monday 26 December 2005 23:18, Yuan Jue wrote: On Monday 26 December 2005 01:09, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote: is there any software that like Rainlender on Windows? I need to make some notes sometimes, and i think it would be much better if the notes could be always shown on the desktop to remind me. Kontact is great, but not at this point :( Do you perhaps mean something like kde's knotes? thanks for your reply. knotes does its work, but not that well as Rainlender. I mean its look and interface. can knote be transparent? Sure, kwin can make any application transparent. It appears that knotes on my system just magically is translucent, probably because it is a dock window, but you can set this more specifically for knotes by setting window specific settings for the window class knotes. Hope this helps, I just found a software called gDesklets which I think is wonderful. you can find it in http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_appgd_app_id =191 it is a WeeklyCalendar. almost fulfill my demand Ah, if you are after something like gdesklets, kde seems to have SuperKaramba (ports deskutils/superkaramba) which embeds scripts into the desktop in almost the same way. Not sure if you are still looking for something different or if you are satisfied with what you have now, Eric hi, what are the main differences/pros/cons between gdesklets and superkaramba please ? m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD Logo Contest -- whom to contact about?
hello, i have got some comments about the winning logo design. who is/are the right person/persons to be contacted regarding this pls? also, could other submitted designs be seen somewhere? (at least top 5 of them) regards, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pkgtools.conf make arguments ignored (?!?)
Scot Hetzel wrote:
On 12/11/05, martinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hello,
i'm having troubles with specifying make arguments to portupgrade via
/usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf.
this is a part of my config file:
MAKE_ARGS = {
'x11/yelp' = 'WITH_MAN=1 WITH_INFO=1 WITH_GECKO=mozilla',
}
it works only if i run `portupgrade -N yelp`
but it does not work when i run eg `portupgrade -N gnome2-lite`
interesting thing is that according to pkgtools.conf itself the
following should work too but it does not :
MAKE_ARGS = {
'x11/yelp-*' = 'WITH_MAN=1 WITH_INFO=1 WITH_GECKO=mozilla',
}
is this a known issue (and why?) or am i doing something wrong ??
Do you have an entry in the MAKE_ARGS for x11/gnome2-lite? As your
example doesn't show an entry for it.
Scot
well, i want to set an entry for x11/yelp. and i expect portupgrade to
take that entry into account whenever it compiles x11/yelp. whether it
is compiled directly or indirectly as a dependency. (for i might want to
compile gnome2-office port instead and of course i do not want to create
an entry for every possible combination. i do not expect pkgtools to
work this way.)
martin
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Re: DualBoot
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:46:12 +, Martin Tournoy wrote Dual-boot is always a bit of a risk to install, backup your important data first... I have good experiences with the GAG bootmanager, which can be installed as a port sysutils/gag, and the website is http://gag.sourceforge.net/ You can just create a boot floppy, and either save the config on the floppy or the MBR, it simple and easy, unlike lilo or grub On 04/12/05, martinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Albritton wrote: How viable is it to install FreeBSD along side WinXP? (Dual Boot) Also, can the BSD MBR be removed once it's installed? I've tried FIXMBR with the WinXP CD and it didn't work sigh Any suggestions? --- Mike Albritton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] you don't have to install fbsd's mbr at all. you could use win nt/xp boot manager. but fot that to work you would need to create a boot sector image to boot fbsd. i've achieved it with software called bootpart. or you can use grub. btw, my winxp stopped working after i tried to install 2nd installation of fbsd -- i had 5.4 and i installed 6.0. most unfortunately, fdisk shuffled partitions and my grub stopped working properly. i managed to fix it by hand (good old norton disk editor) and everything works fine but winxp -- i got a message saying something like it cannot load hal file or something. :-(( martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] well, i do not think this is about boot manager. i have not touched boot manager (i have both grub and winxp) and i was successful in reparing my partition table. all other systems (dos, fbsd, linux) work, only winxp complains about that HAL file or something. :-(( anyone has had experienced something similar and know how to fix it pls ??? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cpufreq and changing driver
Marco Calviani wrote: Hi Nate, 2005/11/30, Nate Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You should send the full output of sysctl dev.cpu. There is no cpufreq driver (est, acpi_perf, or other) driver running. Perhaps look at your dmesg to see if one is probing/attaching. sysctl dev.cpu dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.freq: 1000 dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1800/24000 1600/2 1400/18000 1225/15750 1050/13500 1000/16000 875/14000 750/12000 625/1 600/12000 525/10500 450/9000 375/7500 300/6000 225/4500 150/3000 75/1500 hi, may i just ask what are the numbers after slash(es) in freq_levels ? (sysctl -d does not say anything but dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: CPU frequency levels) (and i've got -1 everywhere (??); machine is pentium-m 755) cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DualBoot
Mr. Albritton wrote: How viable is it to install FreeBSD along side WinXP? (Dual Boot) Also, can the BSD MBR be removed once it's installed? I've tried FIXMBR with the WinXP CD and it didn't work sigh Any suggestions? --- Mike Albritton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] you don't have to install fbsd's mbr at all. you could use win nt/xp boot manager. but fot that to work you would need to create a boot sector image to boot fbsd. i've achieved it with software called bootpart. or you can use grub. btw, my winxp stopped working after i tried to install 2nd installation of fbsd -- i had 5.4 and i installed 6.0. most unfortunately, fdisk shuffled partitions and my grub stopped working properly. i managed to fix it by hand (good old norton disk editor) and everything works fine but winxp -- i got a message saying something like it cannot load hal file or something. :-(( martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How often portupgrades?
Joerg Pernfuss wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:29:41 +0100 Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering what a good rule of thumb is in how often to run portupgrades. I figure that once a week should be sufficient, however each time it runs it can take up to a few hours to complete which seems like an unnecessary hassle to me. Once it even started rebuilding the complete gnome port which took a couple days! Is this worthwhile? What are the benefits? Thanks alot in advance. Everybody has to figure out that one for himself, so, here is my rule of thumb: Upgrade your ports only when you need to. If all installed ports work fine and a new version doesn't introduce some functionality you simply need to have, why update? Just for the sake of updateing? Joerg you forgot to mention security issues. even if you don't like often updating, you should run portaudit regularly (once a day?) and make sure you update the ports with security advisories. martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to track 6.0 increments ?
ke.han wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 01:20:06AM +0800, ke.han wrote: I have installed 6.0 and would like to follow important changes before something labeled 6.1 comes out. What is the prescribed method for this? I don't want to follow current or stable (I don't think). I just want security fixes and other changes that might be termed 6.01 if there were such a thing. Create a cvsup-file with *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_0 thanks...so now that I have sync'd my source incorrectly by using stable-supfile and standard-supfile, can I get things back to where I want just by sync'ing again with the RELENG_6_0 tag ?? thanks ke han why incorrectly? those files come as cvsup examples. and they're correct, you only need to specify your nearest mirror (*default host=) and if you want to follow the security branch, just change tag=RELENG_6 to tag=RELENG_6_0 martin This will only give you important security fixes. If there are fixes, you can find them on the FreeBSD homepage, under SECURITY ADVISORIES. If a advisory has come out, use cvsup to update the sources, and rebuild your kernel and userland as documented at the end of /usr/src/UPDATING under the heading 'To rebuild everything and install it on the current system. Note; you have to be in /usr/src to build world+kernel. Roland ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recompiled 6.0 does not boot -- need help !!
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 01:36:48 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote boot: Simply copy the default line and append .old, as in: boot: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader.old loader.old??? AFAIK loader is not rebuilt while compiling kernel and there is no such file like loader.old created! Here, you can tell the loader to boot the previous kernel: OK boot /boot/kernel.old looks better :) thanks, but the issue is with the loader itself -- it resets my laptop as soon as it's loaded (by grub installed in gentoo partition). i'll check and try the other advices i received and will let you all know ... cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recompiled 6.0 does not boot -- need help !!
Bartosz Fabianowski wrote: loader.old??? AFAIK loader is not rebuilt while compiling kernel and there is no such file like loader.old created! It is installed with world and not kernel then. Sorry for getting that wrong, I didn't check. But it makes no difference to the original poster because he reinstalled both world and kernel: i recompiled kernel (and world) and it does not boot anymore. Of course, the handbook recommends installing a new kernel and rebooting before installing world, but people keep doing it differently ;). - Bartosz i did follow the handbook ... (though i might not be precise with my wording above) m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: starting services?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:17:01 +0800, Foo Ji-Haw wrote i wonder why i cannot start for instance ssh with /etc/rc.d/sshd start but i always have to use /etc/rc.d/sshd forcestart and similarly for stop, status, etc. any ideas pls ?? You have to add a line in /etc/rc.conf. I think it is samba_enable=YES. well, if you add sshd_enable=YES, the service (always) starts on boot. i just want to start it manually and i wonder why it doesn't listen to start argument but only forcestart and similarly for other commands i've got to use force. anyone knows why pls ?? martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: starting services?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:22:19 +, Halldor R. Haflidason wrote On Monday, 21 November 2005 at 15:11:35 +0100, martinko wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:17:01 +0800, Foo Ji-Haw wrote i wonder why i cannot start for instance ssh with /etc/rc.d/sshd start but i always have to use /etc/rc.d/sshd forcestart and similarly for stop, status, etc. any ideas pls ?? You have to add a line in /etc/rc.conf. I think it is samba_enable=YES. well, if you add sshd_enable=YES, the service (always) starts on boot. i just want to start it manually and i wonder why it doesn't listen to start argument but only forcestart and similarly for other commands i've got to use force. anyone knows why pls ?? martin Because when the system boots up it sends the 'start' argument to all the scripts in the rc.d directories, those scripts then check wether they should start or not. Force start simply overrides that check. Halldor ok, i see now, thanks for your explanation! m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: starting services?
Gerry Freymann wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:45:14 -0500 Lonnie Cumberland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just installed the Samba3 via the packages in the /stand/sysinstall but am not clear on how to start the daemon. I have had a lot of experience with Linux but have not learned a lot about FreeBSD yet and am working on it. Welcome to FreeBSD. You didn't mention what version you are using, so I can only speak definitively on v4. If you installed via the ports/packages, it should have dropped a start up script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d (which is where a lot of the start up/shut down scripts go for various programs). You may have something in there called samba.sh.sample. If you copy it or rename it to samba.sh it will automatically start and stop samba for you as needed. If you manually want to do this, you *must* use the full path to the script: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/samba.sh start | stop You should find what you need in /usr/local/etc/rc.d i wonder why i cannot start for instance ssh with /etc/rc.d/sshd start but i always have to use /etc/rc.d/sshd forcestart and similarly for stop, status, etc. any ideas pls ?? cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moused flags behaviour in 6.0 -- regression?
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 06:51:34 +, Jayton Garnett wrote Hi, I presume all you want is to get the wheel working under X. Adding a line to xorg.conf in the mouse section is all I need to add no matter what mouse I use to get the wheel to work under X/Gnome. Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Regards, Jayton martinko wrote: hello, until freebsd 6.0 (that is to say in 5.3 and 5.4) i used moused_flags=-3 in rc.conf and both my mice worked correctly (or as desired) -- synaptics touchpad missing 3rd button was emulated while the wheel on my USB mouse worked as expected. now, in 6.0, with the same setting, touchpad 3rd button is emulated but USB mouse's wheel doesn't work. if i don't use the flag, USB mouse's wheel work but obviously there is no 3rd button on my touchpad. :-( also, iirc back on 5.x even on wheel mouse the 3rd button could be emulated by pressing buttons 1 and 2, which is not possible now with wheel being on. now, i know about moused_ums0_flags=, i'm just wondering why has this changed (to worse from my point of view). also, at first i tried moused_psm0_flags=-3 but that didn't work as touchpad is apparently initialised without specifying psm0 device. i hope i made myself clear (enough). regards, martin no, jayton, that's not what i was talking about. regards, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
moused flags behaviour in 6.0 -- regression?
hello, until freebsd 6.0 (that is to say in 5.3 and 5.4) i used moused_flags=-3 in rc.conf and both my mice worked correctly (or as desired) -- synaptics touchpad missing 3rd button was emulated while the wheel on my USB mouse worked as expected. now, in 6.0, with the same setting, touchpad 3rd button is emulated but USB mouse's wheel doesn't work. if i don't use the flag, USB mouse's wheel work but obviously there is no 3rd button on my touchpad. :-( also, iirc back on 5.x even on wheel mouse the 3rd button could be emulated by pressing buttons 1 and 2, which is not possible now with wheel being on. now, i know about moused_ums0_flags=, i'm just wondering why has this changed (to worse from my point of view). also, at first i tried moused_psm0_flags=-3 but that didn't work as touchpad is apparently initialised without specifying psm0 device. i hope i made myself clear (enough). regards, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What happened with portaudit?
Simon L. Nielsen wrote: On 2005.11.06 21:48:52 +0100, Jimmy Scott wrote: On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 05:30:00PM +0100, Kövesdán Gábor wrote: Hello, One of my machines I got a report about 3 vulnerable packages (php4, ruby, openssl) in tomorrows security run output, but in today's security run output all of them disappeared, but nobody upgraded or removed the affected packages. I reinstalled portaudit, refreshd its database, but now it reports 0 affected pakages. The pkg_info command lists that three packages, so they are still installed. Does anybody suspect what's wrong? I noticed the same, but didn't had the time to look for a possible answer on that question. It does seem to work for me now. Could people having this problem please check the size of /var/db/portaudit/auditfile.tbz and try to run portaudit -Fa to refetch the database and check again? For reference: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp] ls -l /var/db/portaudit/auditfile.tbz -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 31762 6 Nov 22:40 /var/db/portaudit/auditfile.tbz There have been one previous report where a problem with the portaudit database build resulted in an incomplete auditfile which was then fixed after the next portaudit database rebuild. it works now. and yes, i did portaudit -Fda several times during that day to no avail. m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Logo - http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/result/ (OFF-TOPIC)
Allen D. Tate wrote: Very disappointing. I prefer the current logo over a ball with two horns!!! and the font used to write FreeBSD is very unprofessional. It is interesting to see differing opinions. I kinda like the new logo and new font and think that it does look professional. I am not saying that your opinion is wrong in any way so don't think I am saying you're wrong. :) __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] well, everyone has a different opinion on this. but even without saying whether i like the new font or not, when i look at it closely it does look that it needs more touch and polishing. i'm not an expert on typography, it's just a feeling. it would be usefull if the font was published in a vector format or at least in big resolution. the same goes for the rest of presented art. martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boot manager linux/bsd dual boot
John Cox wrote: I am preparing for a freeBSD install on my laptop with XP and Fedora. I am familiar with Grub and would like to use that to boot freeBSD. Can someone point me to an example of a grub.conf (menu.lst) entry that will work? Or How do I configure boot manager to boot Fedora? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # For booting FreeBSD title FreeBSD 5 root (hd0,2,a) kernel /boot/loader ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What happened with portaudit?
Kövesdán Gábor wrote: Hello, One of my machines I got a report about 3 vulnerable packages (php4, ruby, openssl) in tomorrows security run output, but in today's security run output all of them disappeared, but nobody upgraded or removed the affected packages. I reinstalled portaudit, refreshd its database, but now it reports 0 affected pakages. The pkg_info command lists that three packages, so they are still installed. Does anybody suspect what's wrong? Cheers, Gabor Kovesdan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] well, i can confirm i've had some issues with ports lately, too. after realising new gnome was out i did portsnap and portaudit as usual. i was very surprised to find out that portversion didn't show new ports as well as portaudit didn't report on 2 vulnerabilities it reported a day or two before. i tried to update ports db manually only to find some errors. pkg_version correctly identified new ports. this state changed in about half a day when suddenly portsnap portversion reported all new packages. otoh, portaudit still doesn't report on vulnerabilities it reported a few days ago. strange.. martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Logo - http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/result/
Nick Withers wrote: Well, the winner of the FreeBSD logo competition has been announced - see http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/result/ So what's the verdict then? I have to say I've very impressed, love the horns! hello, i wonder where i could see the other entries ?? also, while looking at the above web page, i noticed that spacing (between letters) in The Power To Serve is wrong. maybe the font needs more kerning/hinting or whatever. martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming FreeBSD releases...
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 01:00:03AM +0100, martinko wrote: but where is the schedule published ?? i fail to locate it on the web site. all i can find are current and old releases and an incomplete schedule for upcoming 6.0 (about which i just complained in other thread btw). http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html Kris thanks, kris. only that 5.5 is still scheduled for november while you said it might/will be delayed up to a few months. and 6.0 schedule / todo is (still) incomplete as already noted. now, i don't want to complain (much), i can imagine it's a lot of work. still it might be very confusing / unpredictable for newcomers. at least it's for me. i believe that since release model changed to time-based it is crucial to inform users of expected dates and update them as soon as it is known they won't be met. cheers, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Release Information : A standard question !...:/
Erik Norgaard wrote: On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, George Katsanos wrote: Is there any information that you can give to the freebsd fans about the 6.0 RELEASE [ releng] and its ..'release' date ? http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/schedule.html Erik well, the page appears very static. i myself tried to check it regularly to follow the release process, unfortunately the page is more or less useless. this should be addressed, imho, as not everyone follows mailing lists. martin ps: i'm afraid the same goes for todo list / open issues. :( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming FreeBSD releases...
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 11:01:32AM +0300, Casper wrote: Hi, I`m trying to make little schedule for upgrading and wanted to know when approximate will be new FreeBSD releases... How I understand in few weeks must be FreeBSD 5.5 release, but I can`t find schedule for upcoming 5.5 version... Or it is delayed? Or in few weeks will be maybe sooner 6.0 version of FreeBSD? 5.5 will be a few months after 6.0, i.e. perhaps not before the beginning of next year. Kris hi, as far as i understand minor releases are supposed to be 4-6 months apart. this should be the new release model announced. am i wrong? or has it changed? or is it influenced by something? (6.0-R?) it might be useful, imho, to set/show a roadmap with at least approximate release dates. m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sk0: watchdog timeout
Vladimir Dvorak wrote: Hello, I have a problem with network card. From time to time kernel says sk0: watchdog timeout It has (probably) random behavior. I use FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8, motherboard is ASUS A8V Deluxe (AMD64, Athlon64XP 3200+) and internal network card from pciconf -v -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:0: class=0x02 card=0x811a1043 chip=0x432011ab rev=0x13 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd)' device = '88E8001 Gigabit 32-bit Ethernet Controller with Integrated PHY' class= network subclass = ethernet This machine should be sent to serverhouse and I am not sure, if it is ready. :-( Can anyone tell me what is the solution ? To buy another netcard ? Thank you, Vladimir Dvorak ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the same chip here and i see the messages from time to time too. not sure what's the problem or if there is any at all. so far card has been working alright, or at least i haven't noticed any issues. m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upcoming FreeBSD releases...
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 12:07:09AM +0100, martinko wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 11:01:32AM +0300, Casper wrote: Hi, I`m trying to make little schedule for upgrading and wanted to know when approximate will be new FreeBSD releases... How I understand in few weeks must be FreeBSD 5.5 release, but I can`t find schedule for upcoming 5.5 version... Or it is delayed? Or in few weeks will be maybe sooner 6.0 version of FreeBSD? 5.5 will be a few months after 6.0, i.e. perhaps not before the beginning of next year. Kris hi, as far as i understand minor releases are supposed to be 4-6 months apart. this should be the new release model announced. am i wrong? or has it changed? or is it influenced by something? (6.0-R?) it might be useful, imho, to set/show a roadmap with at least approximate release dates. Yes, since 6.0 took a long time it will push back the rest of the published schedule to some extent. Kris ok, i understand. but where is the schedule published ?? i fail to locate it on the web site. all i can find are current and old releases and an incomplete schedule for upcoming 6.0 (about which i just complained in other thread btw). martin ps: it's a pity this isn't updated anymore -- http://www.xl0.org/FreeBSD/ -- is there any other (comparable) source of information pls ?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How often cvsup the ports?
Colin Percival wrote: Andrew P. wrote: On 10/6/05, Mikael Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Portupgrade to install apps every now and then. How often should I cvsup the ports? If you like being up-to-date, you should consider using portsnap, which is much more efficient than cvsup. You can update every other couple of hours then - and you'll probably waste less bandwidth in a week than you would with cvsup in one run. Portsnap certainly is more efficient than cvsup for frequent updating, but for most people, updating the ports tree every 2 hours is rather pointless. On my 6.0-beta systems, I have a nightly cron job which runs portsnap -I cron update pkg_version -vIL= colin, what is this I parameter to pkg_version supposed to be? i don't seem to have it here on 5.4R. cheers, martin which downloads updates, builds new ports INDEX files, and emails me a list of installed packages which are out of date. When I get such an email, I log into the system and run portsnap update portupgrade -a which updates the ports tree and rebuilds the installed packages which are out of date. Between FreeBSD Update, portsnap, and portupgrade, I doubt I spend more than half an hour per month keeping each system up to date. Colin Percival ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba or something more lightweight ...
Kiffin Gish wrote: I want to be able to access other Windows machines on my home network, e.g. exchange files back and forth using shared folders. Do I need to install Samba or is there another more lightweight alternative? Thanks alot in advance? i guess samba client (samba-libsmbclient) should be enough for accessing windows shares. m. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How often cvsup the ports?
Colin Percival wrote: martinko wrote: Colin Percival wrote: portsnap -I cron update pkg_version -vIL= what is this I parameter to pkg_version supposed to be? i don't seem to have it here on 5.4R. It's a new flag in 6.0R; it means just use the INDEX, you stupid program. ;-) Without that flag, pkg_version tries to be intelligent -- it will go into each port directory and run /usr/bin/make -V PKGNAME in order to work out exactly what version of the port is in the tree, and will only use the INDEX if that fails. Unfortunately, running make(1) repeatedly makes pkg_version about 50 times slower than if it just uses the INDEX file; so if you know that the INDEX is up to date (which will be the case if you use portsnap), the -I option makes pkg_version much faster. Colin Percival many thanks for your explanation and many thanks for the new functionality! m:) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portaudit question.....
Wright Jim Contractor 14MDSS/SGSI wrote: To keep the story short: I'm using version FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #6: Thu Aug 25 09:12:43 CDT 2005; pasted from the dmesg.boot file. To the best of my knowledge, I'm using CVSup, pkgdb -F, and portupgrade commands correctly. But, I'm pretty sure I'm still overlooking and/or leaving something out. I just discovered the portaudit command and ran it against my system. It comes up with 15 items that need to be upgraded or deinstalled. For this question I'll use Mozilla. The version it reports is Mozilla-1.7.7,2. When I go to http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html and do a search for Mozilla, I find that Mozilla-1.7.12,2 is the latest (stable) version. I guess my question is this. How do I use the FreeBSD tools, Ports/Packages, etc, to install this latest version?? Or am I missing the concept altogether ? ( I understand the process of downloading this latest version and installing it manually. Just trying to understand and use the FreeBSD tools ) Thanks for any and all help, Jim Wright Columbus, Mississippi 28 Sep 2005 jim, i recommend using portsnap instead of cvsup, especially if you update your ports tree often. then use portversion instead of pkg_version, it's much faster. and always and periodically run portaudit. you don't need your ports tree to be updated for portaudit to be effective, btw. so based on what i said, here's a procedure to follow: /usr/local/sbin/portsnap fetch /usr/local/sbin/portsnap update /usr/local/sbin/portversion -v -l /usr/local/sbin/portaudit -Fda hope that helps. regards, martin ps: regarding mozilla, if it's not packaged on freebsd's ftp server (that is pkg_add doesn't help), you've got to install it from ports (that is to compile it). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cleanup unused files and other junk ...
Micah wrote: jonas wrote: On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:50:21 +0200 Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a good and dependable procedure for cleaning up the file systems from unused junk that just clutters valuable disc space? I am already aware of the 'periodic daily' scripts 'clear_tmp_enable=YES' option for the rc.conf file, but where else can one safely remove files. -if you ever did a buildworld then you have the compiled base system in /usr/obj, which you can delete. -you can scan your filesystem for *.core files (a process creates these when it crashes) and delete them. -make sure you always do a 'make clean' after installing software from the ports. i think portupgrade can scan and cleanup all ports workdirs. but i think in most cases much more spaces is wasted with stuff in your homedir you forgot about ;) well at least this is the case for me ... having a deeper look into my $HOME/tmp and $HOME/stuff can quickly free some hundred MBs :) cya, jonas For finding those long forgotten things that take up MBs, I've found kdirstat (for KDE) to be quite useful. Helped me free up a few gigabytes - all located in my home dir of course. :) Later, Micah x11-fm/xdiskusage ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sharing data files on a dual-boot machine ...
John Hoover wrote: On 9/26/05, Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a dual-boot laptop running on the one hand Windows XP (sorry) and on the other hand good old FreeBSD. My question: is it possible to exchange data files between both both operaing systems in an easy and efficient way? I don't know if it would be considered the most efficient, but I've got my Sony GRT100 set up this way. It has worked out well so far. Three partitions 25GB NTFS (MS XP) 3GB FAT32 (Data sharing) 12GB BSD (FreeBSD) I'm using FreeBSD's boot manager for selecting the boot partition at startup. Best I remember I installed the above by 1) using FreeBSD to partition and install on ad0s3 2) install XP on first partition, format FAT32 partition within XP (admin tools - computer management - disk management) 3) reinstall FreeBSD, installing FreeBSD boot manager You could add an entry to /etc/fstabs to mount the FAT32 partition on startup, I just mounted it by hand if I needed it. John. - John F Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] you don't even need to use fbsd's boot manager. i mean, it works, but it doesn't look very well, does it. :) i prefer either grub or native windows nt/2k/xp boot manager. to use the latter, you need something like BootPart http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm to help you load fbsd's boot record/sector. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
file name case issue on fat32 (Was: Re: Sharing data files on a dual-boot machine ...)
jonas wrote: On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:57:28 +0200 Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a dual-boot laptop running on the one hand Windows XP (sorry) and on the other hand good old FreeBSD. My question: is it possible to exchange data files between both both operaing systems in an easy and efficient way? For example, saving all my MP3s on a separate data partition and playing the same music despite which operating system I am using? Thanks alot in advance. hi! freebsd can mount ntfs read only and with limited writing support (see 'man mount_ntfs' for details. (should be enough for playing mp3s). you can create a fat32 partition which freebsd and windows can read and write, or a ext2fs partition and get a ext2fs driver for windows. i'm not totally sure, but think freebsd can write ext2fs. bye, jonas hello, when i mount a fat32 partition some files have different case (see below) then in windows. how come ?? e.g.: $ ll -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel734 Mar 1 2005 a.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel649 Mar 16 2003 A.txt~ -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 1110 Mar 27 2003 b.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2980 Jun 6 23:46 c.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2475 Mar 1 2005 C.txt~ -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2563 Jun 10 12:49 d.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2561 Jun 10 12:42 D.txt~ -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 1015 Jun 7 00:25 e.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel681 Mar 16 2003 E.txt~ -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel602 Mar 16 2003 f.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel421 Mar 16 2003 g.txt in windows all the files above have first letter in uppercase, that is A.txt for instance. is this a known issue (why??) or am i missing something or what? regards, martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: file name case issue on fat32 (Was: Re: Sharing data files on a dual-boot machine ...)
Dmitry Mityugov wrote: On 9/27/05, martinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... hello, when i mount a fat32 partition some files have different case (see below) then in windows. how come ?? e.g.: $ ll -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel734 Mar 1 2005 a.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel649 Mar 16 2003 A.txt~ -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 1110 Mar 27 2003 b.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2980 Jun 6 23:46 c.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2475 Mar 1 2005 C.txt~ -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2563 Jun 10 12:49 d.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2561 Jun 10 12:42 D.txt~ -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 1015 Jun 7 00:25 e.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel681 Mar 16 2003 E.txt~ -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel602 Mar 16 2003 f.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel421 Mar 16 2003 g.txt in windows all the files above have first letter in uppercase, that is A.txt for instance. is this a known issue (why??) or am i missing something or what? Guess this is how FAT32 stores long names. Am I right that you get such duplicates only for files with names that do not conform the DOS naming convention? (with names 8 chars, extensions 3 chars, and/or lower case characters in names/extensions?) sorry if i didn't make myself clear. -- ALL the file names above should have their first letter, and only the first letter, in upper case. that's how they were named in windows. but as you can see above, freebsd does not show them properly as some of them are shown in lowercase (e.g. a.txt instead of A.txt). why?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: file name case issue on fat32 (Was: Re: Sharing data files on a dual-boot machine ...)
Alex Zbyslaw wrote: martinko wrote: Dmitry Mityugov wrote: On 9/27/05, martinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... hello, when i mount a fat32 partition some files have different case (see below) then in windows. how come ?? e.g.: $ ll -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel734 Mar 1 2005 a.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel649 Mar 16 2003 A.txt~ -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 1110 Mar 27 2003 b.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2980 Jun 6 23:46 c.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2475 Mar 1 2005 C.txt~ -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2563 Jun 10 12:49 d.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2561 Jun 10 12:42 D.txt~ -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 1015 Jun 7 00:25 e.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel681 Mar 16 2003 E.txt~ -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel602 Mar 16 2003 f.txt -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel421 Mar 16 2003 g.txt in windows all the files above have first letter in uppercase, that is A.txt for instance. sorry if i didn't make myself clear. -- ALL the file names above should have their first letter, and only the first letter, in upper case. that's how they were named in windows. but as you can see above, freebsd does not show them properly as some of them are shown in lowercase (e.g. a.txt instead of A.txt). why?? Because FAT32 is a case-insensitive file system. Don't confuse how Windows explorer shows you the file name with how the file name is actually stored on the file system. --Alex ok. unfortunately i forgot most of my knowledge from the old days of ms-dos but what i can say even without it is this -- it's not about windows explorer only. i can see the correct file names in all applications (under windows of course), i believe. and if windows knows whether there should be an A or a then why freebsd cannot? martin ps: and, btw, how freebsd knows there's a capital A in A.txt~ ? because it's stored on the filesystem in that way, i guess. being case-insensitive doesn't (necessarily) mean a FS doesn't keep a case, imho. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sharing data files on a dual-boot machine ...
Jerry McAllister wrote: John Hoover wrote: On 9/26/05, Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a dual-boot laptop running on the one hand Windows XP (sorry) and on the other hand good old FreeBSD. My question: is it possible to exchange data files between both both operaing systems in an easy and efficient way? I don't know if it would be considered the most efficient, but I've got my Sony GRT100 set up this way. It has worked out well so far. Three partitions 25GB NTFS (MS XP) 3GB FAT32 (Data sharing) 12GB BSD (FreeBSD) I'm using FreeBSD's boot manager for selecting the boot partition at startup. Best I remember I installed the above by 1) using FreeBSD to partition and install on ad0s3 2) install XP on first partition, format FAT32 partition within XP (admin tools - computer management - disk management) 3) reinstall FreeBSD, installing FreeBSD boot manager You could add an entry to /etc/fstabs to mount the FAT32 partition on startup, I just mounted it by hand if I needed it. John. - John F Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] you don't even need to use fbsd's boot manager. i mean, it works, but it doesn't look very well, does it. :) It works very well. It does exactly what it is designed to do and does it without crashing or skrewing up. It is not loaded down with a bunch of glitzy features, if that is what you want. But, it works well. jerry i agree. i was referring to its look, though. no flame. m:) i prefer either grub or native windows nt/2k/xp boot manager. to use the latter, you need something like BootPart http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm to help you load fbsd's boot record/sector. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
