NTP Autokey configuration

2012-02-27 Thread Misra, Arindam
Hi,


I have a two servers both of which are not public, I want to configure one of 
them as a server and the other as a client for ntpd. What is the exact 
configuration required in both client and servers to get the autokey protocol 
working? I shall be thankful if you could send a ntp.conf file which works for 
a scenario described above.

Arindam



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Re: NTP Autokey configuration

2012-02-27 Thread Paul Macdonald

On 27/02/2012 14:18, Misra, Arindam wrote:

Hi,


I have a two servers both of which are not public, I want to configure one of 
them as a server and the other as a client for ntpd. What is the exact 
configuration required in both client and servers to get the autokey protocol 
working? I shall be thankful if you could send a ntp.conf file which works for 
a scenario described above.

Arindam
i presume you've tried: 
http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Support/ConfiguringAutokey#Section_6.7.2.2.


(you'll likely need to use  'freeBSD' paths  for /etc/  i.e  
/usr/local/etc/ if installed from ports).


I particulalrly liked *6.7.1 (How to use this guide*)

1. Perform the server set-up before performing the client set-up
2. Follow each step in this guide





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Re: NTP Autokey configuration

2012-02-27 Thread Alexandre
Hi,

A good start is the manpage of ntp.conf
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ntp.confapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+9.0-RELEASE+and+Portsarch=defaultformat=html
The authentification support is described.

You have the handbook page for the basics :
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-ntp.html

Regards,
Alexandre

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Misra, Arindam arindam.mi...@netapp.comwrote:

 Hi,


 I have a two servers both of which are not public, I want to configure one
 of them as a server and the other as a client for ntpd. What is the exact
 configuration required in both client and servers to get the autokey
 protocol working? I shall be thankful if you could send a ntp.conf file
 which works for a scenario described above.

 Arindam



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How to confirm/deny ntp is working?

2010-08-02 Thread Ed Flecko
Hi folks,
I've read several different sources on setting up ntp on FreeBSD (I'm
using 8.1), and they seem to vary a little, so I'm confused about how
DO you set this up, and how do you confirm/deny that it's working?

I've modified my /etc/ntp.conf file by commenting out:

#server 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
#server 1.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
#server 2.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
#server 3.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9

and changing them to read (I'm in the U.S.):

 server 0.US.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
 server 1.US.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
 server 2.US.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9

I have confirmed that I can ping these servers.

I've added ntpd_enable=YES and ntpd_sync_on_start=YES to
/etc/rc.conf and rebooted the server.

1.) Do I need to manually create the driftfile (/var/db/ntpd.drift)?

2.) Do I need to manually create the logfile (/var/log/ntp.log)?

3.) How do you confirm that FreeeBSD is, in fact, keeping time?

Thank you,
Ed
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Re: How to confirm/deny ntp is working?

2010-08-02 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

02.08.2010 23:23, Ed Flecko wrote:


1.) Do I need to manually create the driftfile (/var/db/ntpd.drift)?


Nope.


2.) Do I need to manually create the logfile (/var/log/ntp.log)?


Nope.


3.) How do you confirm that FreeeBSD is, in fact, keeping time?


pgrep ntp
ntpq -p
echo daily_status_ntpd_enable=yes  /etc/periodic.conf

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Re: How to confirm/deny ntp is working?

2010-08-02 Thread Samuel Martín Moro
you may want add to your ntpd.conf:
driftfile /your/drift
logfile /your/log

to confirm, you can change your system date, and see wether it comes back to
normal

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On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi folks,
 I've read several different sources on setting up ntp on FreeBSD (I'm
 using 8.1), and they seem to vary a little, so I'm confused about how
 DO you set this up, and how do you confirm/deny that it's working?

 I've modified my /etc/ntp.conf file by commenting out:

 #server 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
 #server 1.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
 #server 2.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
 #server 3.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9

 and changing them to read (I'm in the U.S.):

  server 0.US.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
  server 1.US.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
  server 2.US.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9

 I have confirmed that I can ping these servers.

 I've added ntpd_enable=YES and ntpd_sync_on_start=YES to
 /etc/rc.conf and rebooted the server.

 1.) Do I need to manually create the driftfile (/var/db/ntpd.drift)?

 2.) Do I need to manually create the logfile (/var/log/ntp.log)?

 3.) How do you confirm that FreeeBSD is, in fact, keeping time?

 Thank you,
 Ed
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Re: How to confirm/deny ntp is working?

2010-08-02 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Ed == Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com writes:

Ed and changing them to read (I'm in the U.S.):

Ed  server 0.US.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
Ed  server 1.US.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
Ed  server 2.US.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9

I believe this is no longer necessary, and in fact, discouraged.

The pool.ntp.org servers have some geolocation built in, so the stock
version will automatically find and balance load on the existing NTP
servers.

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Re: How to confirm/deny ntp is working?

2010-08-02 Thread David Brodbeck
On Mon, August 2, 2010 1:23 pm, Ed Flecko wrote:
 3.) How do you confirm that FreeeBSD is, in fact, keeping time?

Run ntpq, then type peers at the prompt.

You should see some peers listed.  If ntp's been running for a while, one
of them should have an asterisk next to it (this is the one with which the
system is currently synchronizing) and the offset column should show a
fairly small number, usually within +/- 100 ms.  For example, here's the
output from my machine:

 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset 
jitter
==
+cheezum.mattnor 24.56.178.1402 u  803 1024  377   79.195  -39.637  
7.575
*dione.cbane.org 66.220.9.122 2 u  844 1024  377   34.034  -41.063  
8.513
 LOCAL(0).LOCL.  10 l   45   64  3770.0000.000  
0.004




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Re: How to confirm/deny ntp is working?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

Ed == Ed Flecko edfle...@gmail.com writes:


Ed and changing them to read (I'm in the U.S.):

Ed  server 0.US.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
Ed  server 1.US.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
Ed  server 2.US.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9

I believe this is no longer necessary, and in fact, discouraged.

The pool.ntp.org servers have some geolocation built in, so the stock
version will automatically find and balance load on the existing NTP
servers.



Do we need to ping someone @freebsd.org about it then, say, kensm...@?

Just c'suped to 8 recently; mergemaster gave me a new ntp.conf and
this is the exact stuff in there ;-)

Kevin Kinsey
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Re: How to confirm/deny ntp is working?

2010-08-02 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
 Kevin == Kevin Kinsey k...@daleco.biz writes:

Kevin Do we need to ping someone @freebsd.org about it then, say, kensm...@?

Kevin Just c'suped to 8 recently; mergemaster gave me a new ntp.conf and
Kevin this is the exact stuff in there ;-)

Uh, why.  Looks like the Right Thing is already in there:

server 0.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
server 1.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
server 2.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9
#server 3.freebsd.pool.ntp.org iburst maxpoll 9

This conforms with:

  http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/vendors.html

specifically:

Get your vendor zone

To allow you to use the pool as the default time service in your
application, we will set you up with special hostnames, for example
1.vendor.pool.ntp.org, 2.vendor.pool.ntp.org and 3.vendor.pool.ntp.org.

You must absolutely not use the default pool.ntp.org zone names as the
default configuration in your application or appliance.

You can apply for a vendor zone here on the site.

So the problem is that the original poster changed it *away* from the
freebsd subdomains to the *us* subdomains.  This is neither necessary
nor advised.  That's what I was complaining about.

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Re: How to confirm/deny ntp is working?

2010-08-02 Thread RW
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 22:33:16 +0200
Samuel Martín Moro faus...@gmail.com wrote:

 you may want add to your ntpd.conf:
 driftfile /your/drift
 logfile /your/log

They have perfectly good defaults.
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Re: How to confirm/deny ntp is working?

2010-08-02 Thread Leslie Jensen



On 2010-08-02 22:31, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:

02.08.2010 23:23, Ed Flecko wrote:


1.) Do I need to manually create the driftfile (/var/db/ntpd.drift)?


Nope.


2.) Do I need to manually create the logfile (/var/log/ntp.log)?


Nope.


3.) How do you confirm that FreeeBSD is, in fact, keeping time?


pgrep ntp
ntpq -p
echo daily_status_ntpd_enable=yes  /etc/periodic.conf



Shouoldn't it be YES and  so that it do not overwrite your present file?

echo daily_status_ntpd_enable=YES  /etc/periodic.conf

/Leslie
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Re: How to confirm/deny ntp is working?

2010-08-02 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

03.08.2010 07:28, Leslie Jensen wrote:


Shouoldn't it be YES and  so that it do not overwrite your present
file?

echo daily_status_ntpd_enable=YES  /etc/periodic.conf


Really it doesn't matter about quotes or letter case since this is just 
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Re: NTP Stratum

2010-02-08 Thread DAve
Jon Radel wrote:
 DAve wrote:
 Afternoon from Blizzard central in Indiana,

 I have three DNS servers across the state that I have installed and
 configured ntpd on. They seem to be working well except they are
 announcing themselves as Stratum 0 servers.

 As many times as I have read the man pages I can't seem to figure out
 how I *should* set them to announce themselves at a lower stratum.
 
 Not enough information about what you're trying to do:  Are these
 synchronized against an outside source of time?  Are you using a local
 source of time such as a GPS receiver?  Or are your servers sitting
 there with nothing but the undisciplined local clock and something like:
 
 server  127.127.1.0 # local clock
 fudge   127.127.1.0 stratum 0
 
 in the config file?
 
 What's
 
 ntpq -c peers
 
 showing?

I am syncing with three server from N.us.pool.ntp.org. I have no fudge
configured.

]# ntpq -c peers
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
==
 ns-01.tls.net   .INIT.  16 u- 102400.0000.000
4000.00
+www.broadbandja 66.250.45.2  3 u  510 1024  377   61.9443.528
 0.230
*point2.adamants 128.138.140.44   2 u  447 1024  377   59.3600.863
 0.154
+66.36.239.104   69.64.37.141 3 u  507 1024  377   28.7632.623
 1.182

I am pretty sure I am just reading the man pages incorrectly, but then
others things seem confusing as well.

 
 As a general sort of rule, if you're synchronized to some trusted time
 from somewhere, your stratum is going to be one higher than the stratum
 of the server you're synchronized against, and you rather have to go out
 of your way to override that.
 

Uhhh, the confusing part.
Dennis Glatting wrote:
 If you have them sync'd to external servers your servers will assume a
 stratum lower than those.

I vote for higher, I have no fudge configured and my servers are
claiming to be stratum 0 when I check them from outside. But!! Never
trusting my observations until checking again, I see when I tested that
my clocks were off. So if I cannot sync, my server continues to answer
time queries but claims to be stratum 0.

I am thinking I am getting closer to grasping this.

DAve


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Re: NTP Stratum

2010-02-08 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:16 AM, DAve wrote:
 I am syncing with three server from N.us.pool.ntp.org. I have no fudge
 configured.
 
 ]# ntpq -c peers
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset
 jitter
 ==
 ns-01.tls.net   .INIT.  16 u- 102400.0000.000
 4000.00
 +www.broadbandja 66.250.45.2  3 u  510 1024  377   61.9443.528
 0.230
 *point2.adamants 128.138.140.44   2 u  447 1024  377   59.3600.863
 0.154
 +66.36.239.104   69.64.37.141 3 u  507 1024  377   28.7632.623
 1.182
 
 I am pretty sure I am just reading the man pages incorrectly, but then
 others things seem confusing as well.

A stratum-0 timesource is a reference clock like a GPS signal, atomic clock, or 
other very-high-quality timesource.  A computer running ntpd can sync time to 
such a device, and will thus be a stratum-1 timeserver.  Seeing NTP packets 
claiming to be stratum-0 is a sure indication that the ntpd thinks it is not 
properly synchronized, and NTP clients should ignore this timesource as a 
consequence.  See:

  http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/NTP-s-algo.htm#Q-ALGO-BASIC-STRATUM

The stratum is a measure for synchronization distance.  Opposed to jitter or 
delay the stratum is a more static measure.  Basically (and from the 
perspective from a client) it is the number of servers to a reference clock.  
So a reference clock itself appears at stratum 0, while the closest servers are 
at stratum 1.  On the network there is no valid NTP message with stratum 0.

[ ... ]
 I vote for higher, I have no fudge configured and my servers are
 claiming to be stratum 0 when I check them from outside. But!! Never
 trusting my observations until checking again, I see when I tested that
 my clocks were off. So if I cannot sync, my server continues to answer
 time queries but claims to be stratum 0.
 
 I am thinking I am getting closer to grasping this.

That's correct.  If you run something like:

# ntpq -pc rv localhost
assID=0 status=06f4 leap_none, sync_ntp, 15 events, event_peer/strat_chg,
version=ntpd 4.2.4p5-a Tue Jan 12 18:52:12 EST 2010 (1),
processor=i386, system=FreeBSD/6.4-STABLE, leap=00, stratum=2,
precision=-19, rootdelay=33.115, rootdispersion=28.426, peer=51948,
refid=18.26.4.105,
reftime=cf1b25fa.21d555c1  Mon, Feb  8 2010 19:08:26.132, poll=9,
clock=cf1b2a9f.c570e0a6  Mon, Feb  8 2010 19:28:15.771, state=4,
offset=-0.042, frequency=19.313, jitter=1.902, noise=0.625,
stability=0.001, tai=0
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==
+ntp.pbx.org 192.5.41.40  2 u  477  512  377   30.7441.763   0.702
*bonehed.lcs.mit .GPS.1 u  165  512  377   33.115   -0.495   0.157
-hickory.cc.colu 128.59.39.48 2 u  482  512  377   30.9433.618   0.468
+time1.apple.com 17.72.133.55 2 u  465  512  377   54.5721.374   8.022
 rrcs-24-103-228 18.26.4.105  2 u  505  512  377   34.623  -11.983   1.139
 rrcs-24-103-228 .INIT.  16 u-  51200.0000.000   0.000

...pay attention to the status in the first line, which in the above case reads 
sync_ntp.  I bet you're getting sync_unspec for your status.

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NTP Stratum

2010-02-05 Thread DAve
Afternoon from Blizzard central in Indiana,

I have three DNS servers across the state that I have installed and
configured ntpd on. They seem to be working well except they are
announcing themselves as Stratum 0 servers.

As many times as I have read the man pages I can't seem to figure out
how I *should* set them to announce themselves at a lower stratum.

Anyone got a heads up for me?

Thanks,

DAve
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Re: NTP Stratum

2010-02-05 Thread Jon Radel

DAve wrote:

Afternoon from Blizzard central in Indiana,

I have three DNS servers across the state that I have installed and
configured ntpd on. They seem to be working well except they are
announcing themselves as Stratum 0 servers.

As many times as I have read the man pages I can't seem to figure out
how I *should* set them to announce themselves at a lower stratum.


Not enough information about what you're trying to do:  Are these 
synchronized against an outside source of time?  Are you using a local 
source of time such as a GPS receiver?  Or are your servers sitting 
there with nothing but the undisciplined local clock and something like:


server  127.127.1.0 # local clock
fudge   127.127.1.0 stratum 0

in the config file?

What's

ntpq -c peers

showing?

As a general sort of rule, if you're synchronized to some trusted time 
from somewhere, your stratum is going to be one higher than the stratum 
of the server you're synchronized against, and you rather have to go out 
of your way to override that.


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Replacing base NTP with ports NTP

2010-01-30 Thread David Rawling

Greetings all and sundry

About 3 months ago I built myself a time server using 8.0-RC3, IIRC, and 
I upgraded to 8.0-RELEASE (and now -p2). Naturally, as I want this 
server to provide time services, I've installed the net/ntp port, among 
others.


Recently, for reasons that have become lost in the mists of time, I 
noticed that I wasn't running the port version of NTP 
(/usr/local/sbin/ntpd), but the version installed with the base system 
(/usr/sbin/ntpd).


For the immediate term, I've renamed the base versions of the files in 
/usr/sbin, and then symlinked to the port version (in /usr/local) - ntpd 
is now the ports version, as are most of the tools. This does, however, 
seem like a rather silly way of getting the most current NTPd running.


I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to get the Ports version of 
NTP to overwrite the base system's NTP. Yet I'm sure (since there *is* a 
port of NTP) there must be a better way to do this.


Can anyone point me in the direction of some documentation?

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Re: Replacing base NTP with ports NTP

2010-01-30 Thread Ben Schumacher
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:06 AM, David Rawling d...@pdconsec.net wrote:
 About 3 months ago I built myself a time server using 8.0-RC3, IIRC, and I
 upgraded to 8.0-RELEASE (and now -p2). Naturally, as I want this server to
 provide time services, I've installed the net/ntp port, among others.

 Recently, for reasons that have become lost in the mists of time, I noticed
 that I wasn't running the port version of NTP (/usr/local/sbin/ntpd), but
 the version installed with the base system (/usr/sbin/ntpd).

 For the immediate term, I've renamed the base versions of the files in
 /usr/sbin, and then symlinked to the port version (in /usr/local) - ntpd is
 now the ports version, as are most of the tools. This does, however, seem
 like a rather silly way of getting the most current NTPd running.

 I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to get the Ports version of NTP
 to overwrite the base system's NTP. Yet I'm sure (since there *is* a port of
 NTP) there must be a better way to do this.

 Can anyone point me in the direction of some documentation?

David-

I'm not going to claim that this is the best way either, but if
you're doing source installs you could just set WITHOUT_NTP=true in
/etc/src.conf to disable the installation of the system one. You can
use man src.conf to find out more about this. I stop installations
of a bunch of standard services this way -- lpr, bind, nis, sendmail,
etc. make delete-old from your source build will clean up those
files that are no longer used.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Replacing base NTP with ports NTP

2010-01-30 Thread Daniel Molina Wegener
On Saturday 30 January 2010,
David Rawling d...@pdconsec.net wrote:

 Greetings all and sundry

  Hello David,

 
 About 3 months ago I built myself a time server using 8.0-RC3, IIRC, and
 I upgraded to 8.0-RELEASE (and now -p2). Naturally, as I want this
 server to provide time services, I've installed the net/ntp port, among
 others.
 
 Recently, for reasons that have become lost in the mists of time, I
 noticed that I wasn't running the port version of NTP
 (/usr/local/sbin/ntpd), but the version installed with the base system
 (/usr/sbin/ntpd).

  OK, rc.conf(5) does the trick.

  Look here for an overview of rc.conf:
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/configtuning-rcd.html

  And try the next command to gather information about rc.conf(5):
  man 5 rc.conf

  Possibly you are looking for the /ntpd_program/ variable (from the
manual page):
-8--8--8-
ntpd_program
 (str) Path to ntpd(8) (default /usr/sbin/ntpd).
-8--8--8-

 
 For the immediate term, I've renamed the base versions of the files in
 /usr/sbin, and then symlinked to the port version (in /usr/local) - ntpd
 is now the ports version, as are most of the tools. This does, however,
 seem like a rather silly way of getting the most current NTPd running.

  Bad practice... ;)

 
 I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to get the Ports version of
 NTP to overwrite the base system's NTP. Yet I'm sure (since there *is* a
 port of NTP) there must be a better way to do this.

  No problem, just try the configuration above. Also, you do not need
to restart the complete system, just proceed as follows:

1. As root stop ntpd:
  # /etc/rc.d/ntpd stop

2. Edit the /etc/rc.conf file...

3. Start ntpd:
  # /etc/rc.d/ntpd start

 
 Can anyone point me in the direction of some documentation?
 
 Dave.
 

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Re: Replacing base NTP with ports NTP

2010-01-30 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:06:53 +1100
David Rawling d...@pdconsec.net articulated:

 Greetings all and sundry
 
 About 3 months ago I built myself a time server using 8.0-RC3, IIRC,
 and I upgraded to 8.0-RELEASE (and now -p2). Naturally, as I want
 this server to provide time services, I've installed the net/ntp
 port, among others.
 
 Recently, for reasons that have become lost in the mists of time, I 
 noticed that I wasn't running the port version of NTP 
 (/usr/local/sbin/ntpd), but the version installed with the base
 system (/usr/sbin/ntpd).
 
 For the immediate term, I've renamed the base versions of the files
 in /usr/sbin, and then symlinked to the port version (in /usr/local)
 - ntpd is now the ports version, as are most of the tools. This does,
 however, seem like a rather silly way of getting the most current
 NTPd running.
 
 I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to get the Ports version
 of NTP to overwrite the base system's NTP. Yet I'm sure (since there
 *is* a port of NTP) there must be a better way to do this.
 
 Can anyone point me in the direction of some documentation?
 
 Dave.

From the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file:

ntpdate_enable=NO # Run ntpdate to sync time on boot (or NO).
ntpdate_program=/usr/sbin/ntpdate # path to ntpdate, if you want a 
different one.
ntpdate_flags=-b  # Flags to ntpdate (if enabled).
ntpdate_config=/etc/ntp.conf  # ntpdate(8) configuration file
ntpdate_hosts=# Whitespace-separated list of ntpdate(8) 
servers.
ntpd_enable=NO# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol (or NO).
ntpd_program=/usr/sbin/ntpd   # path to ntpd, if you want a different one.
ntpd_config=/etc/ntp.conf # ntpd(8) configuration file
ntpd_sync_on_start=NO # Sync time on ntpd startup, even if offset is 
high
ntpd_flags=-p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
# Flags to ntpd (if enabled).

Enter the appropriate line(s) into your /etc/rc.conf file. DO NOT
modify the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file.

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ntp

2009-11-01 Thread alexus
this is my ntp.conf

su-3.2# cat /usr/local/etc/ntp.conf
server 0.us.pool.ntp.org
server 1.us.pool.ntp.org
server 2.us.pool.ntp.org
server 3.us.pool.ntp.org
su-3.2# ntpq -p
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==
 mx  .RMOT.  16 u- 102400.0000.000   0.000
su-3.2#

this isn't the first time, but after a while my ntp stops working :(
i dont know what to do...

any suggestions?


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Re: ntp

2009-11-01 Thread Matthew Seaman

alexus wrote:

this is my ntp.conf

su-3.2# cat /usr/local/etc/ntp.conf
server 0.us.pool.ntp.org
server 1.us.pool.ntp.org
server 2.us.pool.ntp.org
server 3.us.pool.ntp.org
su-3.2# ntpq -p
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==
 mx  .RMOT.  16 u- 102400.0000.000   0.000
su-3.2#

this isn't the first time, but after a while my ntp stops working :(
i dont know what to do...

any suggestions?


It's /etc/ntp.conf if you're using the ntpd that comes with the base
system in FreeBSD.  Unless you're running you own PPS clock or engaged
in developing NTP, there's much point in installing the ports version.

Even so, it seems you have a problem connecting to a remote NTP server.
Can you do the following:

First, choose one of the IPs returned from one of those pool.ntp.org
addresses:

% host 0.us.pool.ntp.org
0.us.pool.ntp.org has address 216.45.57.38
0.us.pool.ntp.org has address 64.22.86.210
0.us.pool.ntp.org has address 69.36.241.112
0.us.pool.ntp.org has address 69.56.251.238
0.us.pool.ntp.org has address 169.229.70.201

Then test that you can get NTP packets to and from between that machine
and your own by using ntpq(8):

% ntpq -p 216.45.57.38
remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==
+clock.via.net   .GPS.1 u  698 1024  3778.8320.232   0.125
-timekeeper.isi. .GPS.1 u 1915 1024  3767.5090.416  18.394
+clock.sjc.he.ne .CDMA.   1 u  109 1024  377   10.0850.262   0.066
-nist1.symmetric .ACTS.   1 u   73 1024  377   13.380   -0.470   0.172
-rrcs-64-183-55- .GPS.1 u  645 1024  377   25.310   -3.634   2.929
-rrcs-64-183-56- .GPS.1 u  625 1024  377   13.364   -3.183   1.270
-nist1.aol-ca.tr .ACTS.   1 u  947 1024  3779.8603.786   0.029
-clock.isc.org   .GPS.1 u   98 1024  377   10.025   -6.679   0.005
-gps.layer42.net .GPS.1 u  113 1024  377   12.3150.042   0.388
-gatekeeper.no-s .PPS.1 u  662 1024  377   27.1653.409  78.001
-nist1-sj.witime .ACTS.   1 u  675 1024  3779.2045.834   0.780
*clepsydra.dec.c .GPS.1 u  867 1024  3779.9880.283   0.123
-time.nist.gov   .ACTS.   1 u  933 1024  377   33.453   -1.888   1.615
ntp2.lax-noc.co 204.123.2.5  2 u  935 1024  3770.1220.467   0.015
LOCAL(0).LOCL.   9 l   23   64  3770.0000.000   0.002

If you don't get output like this showing a list of reference servers
from any of the available addresses, then I'd suspect something like
over restrictive firewall rules blocking the traffic.  If you do get
a response then the problem is localised on your machine.  In which
case, try stripping out and NTP related ports you've installed,
configure the base system ntpd(8) and see if that works better for you.

Cheers,

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Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008

2009-10-15 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 18:04:41 Jacques Henry wrote:

  Alternatively, from the commandline try
 
  ntpd -g -q -c /etc/ntp.conf
 
  The -g flag allows ntpd to set the clock once regardless of the offset
  and the -q causes it to quit after setting the time.

 I tried this command without success...  I can see the NTP packets (client
 and server) but the clock is never set

Are you running with an elevated securelevel?
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Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008

2009-10-15 Thread krad
2009/10/15 Chris Hill ch...@monochrome.org

 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Jacques Henry wrote:

  The 19 minutes between when I sent my suggestions and you responded is
 hardly enough time to see if ntpd was slewing the time.  Slewing 587
 seconds takes days.



 The thing is that ntpd is not slewing the time at all, even after several
 hours!!


 If I may pipe up... Can you not set the clock manually, then let ntpd take
 it from there? Seems like your clock would become synced a lot faster if it
 started out close. Sorry if I'm being naive, but this seemed like the
 obvious thing to do.

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Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008

2009-10-15 Thread Jacques Henry

 If I may pipe up... Can you not set the clock manually, then let ntpd take
 it from there? Seems like your clock would become synced a lot faster if it
 started out close. Sorry if I'm being naive, but this seemed like the
 obvious thing to do.


Don't apologize! Any input is valuable! But I don't quite understand what
you meant about let ntpd take it from here or if it started out close...
(I am French and maybe you're using a figure of language I don't
understand...)

Are you running with an elevated securelevel?


No the Secure Level is -1...


But I've found the beginning of a solution... It doesn't come from ntpd but
from the Windows Time Server. When configured to sync with its internal
clock, the NTP Server IP packets that goes to the client contain strange
values (rootdispersion, etc.) that are higher than expected. Thus, ntpd
doesn't consider the Windows Server as a reliable source. But once the
windows server configured to sync with an external source, it works! The IP
packets generated from the windows server begin to look like real and
reliable answer to ntpd...

I'm working now on a correct configuration of the Windows Server.

Thanks again to all!
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Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008

2009-10-14 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Tuesday 13 October 2009 18:44:57 Jon Radel wrote:
 Jacques Henry wrote:
  I commented the commands involved and nothing changed... (with only 10
  minutes of time difference)

 The 19 minutes between when I sent my suggestions and you responded is
 hardly enough time to see if ntpd was slewing the time.  Slewing 587
 seconds takes days.

  I even tried to force the sync:
 
  U450XA0A0800650nstop ntp
  U450XA0A0800650ntpd -x -n -q -c /var/ntp.conf
  U450XA0A0800650nstart ntp

 Are you sure that -x in there, telling ntpd to not step unless the
 offset is over 600 sec, doesn't override what you're trying to do with
 the -q?  How about you try simple:

 ntpdate the_windows_server

 and see what that does?  After that look in /var/log/messages.

   In fact I am still quite convinced that the MS implementation isn't
  totally compliant with the client...

 Could be, but ntpq was showing that your ntpd was accepting time data
 from the Windows server at least on some level.

Alternatively, from the commandline try

ntpd -g -q -c /etc/ntp.conf

The -g flag allows ntpd to set the clock once regardless of the offset and 
the -q causes it to quit after setting the time.

In /etc/rc.conf, all you should need is

ntpd_enable=YES
ntpd_sync_on_start=YES

The second option adds -g to the ntpd flags, allowing it to set the clock at 
startup and continue running.

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Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008

2009-10-14 Thread Jacques Henry
  The 19 minutes between when I sent my suggestions and you responded is
  hardly enough time to see if ntpd was slewing the time.  Slewing 587
  seconds takes days.


 The thing is that ntpd is not slewing the time at all, even after several
hours!!


  Are you sure that -x in there, telling ntpd to not step unless the
  offset is over 600 sec, doesn't override what you're trying to do with
  the -q?  How about you try simple:
 
  ntpdate the_windows_server
 
  and see what that does?  After that look in /var/log/messages.


I don't have that command on my system...



 Alternatively, from the commandline try

 ntpd -g -q -c /etc/ntp.conf

 The -g flag allows ntpd to set the clock once regardless of the offset and
 the -q causes it to quit after setting the time.


I tried this command without success...  I can see the NTP packets (client
and server) but the clock is never set

with the debugging option enabled (-D 3), at the end I get:

...
...
poll_update: at 15 172.30.1.5 flags 0201 poll 6 burst 1 last 1 next 17
read_network_packet: fd=22 length 48 from ac1e0105 172.30.1.5
receive: at 15 172.30.1.250-172.30.1.5 flags 19 restrict 080
receive: at 15 172.30.1.250-172.30.1.5 mode 4 code 1 auth 0
packet: flash header 0040
addto_syslog: no reply; clock not set
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Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008

2009-10-14 Thread Chris Hill

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Jacques Henry wrote:


The 19 minutes between when I sent my suggestions and you responded is
hardly enough time to see if ntpd was slewing the time.  Slewing 587
seconds takes days.




The thing is that ntpd is not slewing the time at all, even after several
hours!!


If I may pipe up... Can you not set the clock manually, then let ntpd take 
it from there? Seems like your clock would become synced a lot faster if 
it started out close. Sorry if I'm being naive, but this seemed like the 
obvious thing to do.


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NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008

2009-10-13 Thread Jacques Henry
Hello,

I am using a System based on FreeBSD 6.3.
On this System an automatically generated ntpd.conf file is generated in
order to synchronize the System clock with a NTP Server. I want to use a
Windows 2003 or 2008 Server to act as the NTP Server. On the Windows System
the NTP Server (Windows Time Service) is *correctly* running. The thing is
that even if there are NTP traffic between the client and the Server (NTP
Client and Server IP packet), My FreeBSD is not synchronizing at all:

freebsd-clientntpq -p 127.0.0.1
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
===
 NTP_server  192.168.10.6 2 u  103 102411.037  -587367
0.002


As you can see the offset is huge and never decreases as in a normal way...

My ntpd.conf file looks like:
---
# File is automatically generated
# Do not edit
tinker panic 1
tinker step  1

# ntp servers list
server 172.30.1.5

# files informations
driftfile   /etc/ntp.drift

# restriction informations
restrict default ignore  # do not allow request by default
restrict 127.0.0.1   # allow localhost for debugging
restrict 172.30.1.5 nomodify


my ntp.drift file

-101.101


I know that maybe the Microsoft NTP/SNTP implementation is not
RFC-compliant, but is there a way to configure my NTP client in a more
compatible (less strict) way to adjust its time with a Windows Server?

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NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008

2009-10-13 Thread Jacques Henry
Hello,

I am using a System based on FreeBSD 6.3.
On this System an automatically generated ntpd.conf file is generated in
order to synchronize the System clock with a NTP Server. I want to use a
Windows 2003 or 2008 Server to act as the NTP Server. On the Windows System
the NTP Server (Windows Time Service) is *correctly* running. The thing is
that even if there are NTP traffic between the client and the Server (NTP
Client and Server IP packet), My FreeBSD is not synchronizing at all:

freebsd-clientntpq -p 127.0.0.1
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
===
 NTP_server  192.168.10.6 2 u  103 102411.037  -587367
0.002


As you can see the offset is huge and never decreases as in a normal way...

My ntpd.conf file looks like:
---
# File is automatically generated
# Do not edit
tinker panic 1
tinker step  1

# ntp servers list
server 172.30.1.5

# files informations
driftfile   /etc/ntp.drift

# restriction informations
restrict default ignore  # do not allow request by default
restrict 127.0.0.1   # allow localhost for debugging
restrict 172.30.1.5 nomodify


my ntp.drift file

-101.101


I know that maybe the Microsoft NTP/SNTP implementation is not
RFC-compliant, but is there a way to configure my NTP client in a more
compatible (less strict) way to adjust its time with a Windows Server?

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Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008

2009-10-13 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:13:16 +0200
Jacques Henry (caramba...@googlemail.com) replied:

Hello,

I am using a System based on FreeBSD 6.3.
On this System an automatically generated ntpd.conf file is generated
in order to synchronize the System clock with a NTP Server. I want to
use a Windows 2003 or 2008 Server to act as the NTP Server. On the
Windows System the NTP Server (Windows Time Service) is *correctly*
running. The thing is that even if there are NTP traffic between the
client and the Server (NTP Client and Server IP packet), My FreeBSD is
not synchronizing at all:

freebsd-clientntpq -p 127.0.0.1
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
===
 NTP_server  192.168.10.6 2 u  103 102411.037  -587367
0.002


As you can see the offset is huge and never decreases as in a normal
way...

My ntpd.conf file looks like:
---
# File is automatically generated
# Do not edit
tinker panic 1
tinker step  1

# ntp servers list
server 172.30.1.5

# files informations
driftfile   /etc/ntp.drift

# restriction informations
restrict default ignore  # do not allow request by default
restrict 127.0.0.1   # allow localhost for debugging
restrict 172.30.1.5 nomodify


my ntp.drift file

-101.101


I know that maybe the Microsoft NTP/SNTP implementation is not
RFC-compliant, but is there a way to configure my NTP client in a more
compatible (less strict) way to adjust its time with a Windows
Server?

You might want to check out these two URL's for starters:

http://lists.ntp.isc.org/pipermail/questions/2007-January/012469.html
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms884917.aspx

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Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008

2009-10-13 Thread Jon Radel

Jacques Henry wrote:

Hello,

I am using a System based on FreeBSD 6.3.
On this System an automatically generated ntpd.conf file is generated in
order to synchronize the System clock with a NTP Server. I want to use a
Windows 2003 or 2008 Server to act as the NTP Server. On the Windows System
the NTP Server (Windows Time Service) is *correctly* running. The thing is
that even if there are NTP traffic between the client and the Server (NTP
Client and Server IP packet), My FreeBSD is not synchronizing at all:

freebsd-clientntpq -p 127.0.0.1
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
===
 NTP_server  192.168.10.6 2 u  103 102411.037  -587367
0.002


As you can see the offset is huge and never decreases as in a normal way...

My ntpd.conf file looks like:
---
# File is automatically generated
# Do not edit
tinker panic 1
tinker step  1


My man page for ntp.conf clearly states in regards to the tinker command:

The default values of these variables have been carefully optimized for 
a wide range of network speeds and reliability expectations.  In 
general, they interact in intricate ways that are hard to predict and 
some combinations can result in some very nasty behavior.

Very rarely is it necessary to change the default values; but,
some folks cannot resist twisting the knobs anyway and this com-
mand is for them.  Emphasis added: twisters are on their own and
can expect no help from the support group.

so the very first thing you might want to try is to comment out the 
tinker commands, in particular the panic one. I'm not sure that after 
you set the panic threshold to 1 second you should expect your ntpd to 
pay any attention to servers with an offset of 587 seconds. If that 
fails, consider setting


ntpdate_enable=YES
ntpdate_hosts=NTP_server

in your /etc/rc.conf and simply stepping to the correct time at boot time.

In short, I don't think this has anything with a Windows server being 
involved, and everything to do with starting off almost 10 minutes off 
and a config file that says to never make a step correction larger than 
1 second and to panic if you see an offset of over 1 second.


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Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008

2009-10-13 Thread krad
2009/10/13 Jacques Henry caramba...@googlemail.com

 Hello,

 I am using a System based on FreeBSD 6.3.
 On this System an automatically generated ntpd.conf file is generated in
 order to synchronize the System clock with a NTP Server. I want to use a
 Windows 2003 or 2008 Server to act as the NTP Server. On the Windows System
 the NTP Server (Windows Time Service) is *correctly* running. The thing is
 that even if there are NTP traffic between the client and the Server (NTP
 Client and Server IP packet), My FreeBSD is not synchronizing at all:

 freebsd-clientntpq -p 127.0.0.1
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset
 jitter
 ===
  NTP_server  192.168.10.6 2 u  103 102411.037  -587367
 0.002


 As you can see the offset is huge and never decreases as in a normal way...

 My ntpd.conf file looks like:
 ---
 # File is automatically generated
 # Do not edit
 tinker panic 1
 tinker step  1

 # ntp servers list
 server 172.30.1.5

 # files informations
 driftfile   /etc/ntp.drift

 # restriction informations
 restrict default ignore  # do not allow request by default
 restrict 127.0.0.1   # allow localhost for debugging
 restrict 172.30.1.5 nomodify
 

 my ntp.drift file
 
 -101.101
 

 I know that maybe the Microsoft NTP/SNTP implementation is not
 RFC-compliant, but is there a way to configure my NTP client in a more
 compatible (less strict) way to adjust its time with a Windows Server?

 Thanks
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ntpd wont resync if the time difference is to big, as it assumes something
is wrong as you would have set the system clock roughly correct. To fix stop
ntpd, then do an ntpdate against the server. This should set the time. Now
run ntpd again

also set the following variables to a server of your choosing to make sure
ntpdate is run 1st on boot

$ grep ntp /etc/rc.conf*
/etc/rc.conf:ntpdate_flags=uk.pool.ntp.org
/etc/rc.conf:ntpdate_enable=YES
/etc/rc.conf:ntpd_enable=YES
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RE: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008

2009-10-13 Thread Jacques Henry

 ntpd wont resync if the time difference is to big, as it assumes something
 is wrong as you would have set the system clock roughly correct. To fix stop
 ntpd, then do an ntpdate against the server. This should set the time. Now
 run ntpd again

 also set the following variables to a server of your choosing to make sure
 ntpdate is run 1st on boot

 $ grep ntp /etc/rc.conf*
 /etc/rc.conf:ntpdate_flags=uk.pool.ntp.org
 /etc/rc.conf:ntpdate_enable=YES
 /etc/rc.conf:ntpd_enable=YES


I cannot do that because I have no Internet access...

so the very first thing you might want to try is to comment out the tinker
 commands, in particular the panic one. I'm not sure that after you set the
 panic threshold to 1 second you should expect your ntpd to pay any attention
 to servers with an offset of 587 seconds. If that fails, consider setting

 ntpdate_enable=YES
 ntpdate_hosts=NTP_server

 in your /etc/rc.conf and simply stepping to the correct time at boot time.

 In short, I don't think this has anything with a Windows server being
 involved, and everything to do with starting off almost 10 minutes off and a
 config file that says to never make a step correction larger than 1 second
 and to panic if you see an offset of over 1 second.


I commented the commands involved and nothing changed... (with only 10
minutes of time difference)

I even tried to force the sync:

U450XA0A0800650nstop ntp
U450XA0A0800650ntpd -x -n -q -c /var/ntp.conf
U450XA0A0800650nstart ntp

 In fact I am still quite convinced that the MS implementation isn't totally
compliant with the client...
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Re: NTP Client synchronization with a Windows 2003/2008

2009-10-13 Thread Jon Radel

Jacques Henry wrote:


I commented the commands involved and nothing changed... (with only 10
minutes of time difference)


The 19 minutes between when I sent my suggestions and you responded is 
hardly enough time to see if ntpd was slewing the time.  Slewing 587 
seconds takes days.





I even tried to force the sync:

U450XA0A0800650nstop ntp
U450XA0A0800650ntpd -x -n -q -c /var/ntp.conf
U450XA0A0800650nstart ntp



Are you sure that -x in there, telling ntpd to not step unless the 
offset is over 600 sec, doesn't override what you're trying to do with 
the -q?  How about you try simple:


ntpdate the_windows_server

and see what that does?  After that look in /var/log/messages.


 In fact I am still quite convinced that the MS implementation isn't totally
compliant with the client...


Could be, but ntpq was showing that your ntpd was accepting time data 
from the Windows server at least on some level.


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using own ntp server

2009-10-11 Thread kenneth hatteland
If I have understand ntp right it is possible to hook up my machines to 
the machine running the ntp server. nevertheless I am not able to find 
anywhere helping me with configuring these machines to connect to my 
server and I am still not bright enough to figure out the syntax myself. 
Does anyone know about a web page or anything that my Googling have 
missed ? Or perhaps  I have gailed to grasp nto correct, and all 
machines must be configured like the handbook says to connect to 
external machines ?


Blessed Be
kenneth, Norway
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Re: using own ntp server

2009-10-11 Thread Jon Radel

kenneth hatteland wrote:


If I have understand ntp right it is possible to hook up my machines to 
the machine running the ntp server. nevertheless I am not able to find 
anywhere helping me with configuring these machines to connect to my 
server and I am still not bright enough to figure out the syntax myself. 
Does anyone know about a web page or anything that my Googling have 
missed ? Or perhaps  I have gailed to grasp nto correct, and all 
machines must be configured like the handbook says to connect to 
external machines ?


Leaving aside two areas which could cover a multitude of complications 
should you pursue them, namely


1)  You start setting various security settings and make your ntp server 
effectively unreachable, or


2)  the ability of your local server to multicast time data,

your local ntp server should look like any other ntp server to which you 
have access (other than for less latency and jitter should your network 
be normal).


Put

server IP_OR_FQDN_OF_LOCAL_NTP_SERVER_HERE

in the ntp.conf of your client machines and see what happens.  The 
peers query from the ntpq program should let you know if you have 
success or have somehow locked yourself out / blocked access.


Feel free to give us specifics of what you're doing if this doesn't work.

BTW, the above assumes that you mean setting up your various local 
machines to all use ntpd, but not all query outside machines.  If this 
isn't it, you're going to have to tell us what you mean by hook up my 
machines to the machine running the ntp server.


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Re: using own ntp server

2009-10-11 Thread Artis Caune
2009/10/11 kenneth hatteland kenneth.hattel...@kleppnett.no:
 If I have understand ntp right it is possible to hook up my machines to the
 machine running the ntp server. nevertheless I am not able to find anywhere
 helping me with configuring these machines to connect to my server and I am
 still not bright enough to figure out the syntax myself. Does anyone know
 about a web page or anything that my Googling have missed ? Or perhaps  I
 have gailed to grasp nto correct, and all machines must be configured like
 the handbook says to connect to external machines ?

Take a look at OpenNTPD from OpenBSD. There are only two, three
configuration options. :)

For server:
listen on *
servers pool.ntp.org

For clients:
server 10.0.0.1




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Re: ntp problem

2009-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Apr 20, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Lisa Casey wrote:


Running FreeBSD 5.3  IN /etc/ntp.conf I have:

server time.nist.gov prefer
server tock.gpsclock.com


Your actual question has already been answered, but I'd like to point  
out that people really shouldn't be using those NTP servers unless you  
have a very specific reason to.  You will get just as good  (or  
better) time and help distribute load if you use


 server 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org
 server 1.north-america.pool.ntp.org
 server 2.north-america.pool.ntp.org
 server 3.north-america.pool.ntp.org

(I'm assuming that north-america is appropriate for you given you  
current setting).


And if you have a static IP address and a reliable connection and  
server (good network uptime), please consider joining the pool.  It  
takes negligible resources.


  http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/join.html

And more information about this pool of NTP servers is available at

 http://www.pool.ntp.org/

-j


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ntp problem

2009-04-20 Thread Lisa Casey
Hi,

Running FreeBSD 5.3  IN /etc/ntp.conf I have:

server time.nist.gov prefer
server tock.gpsclock.com
driftfile /etc/ntp.drift
logfile /var/log/ntp.log

If I run ntpdate from a prompt, I get the following  error message:

# ntpdate
20 Apr 12:02:08 ntpdate[50109]: no servers can be used, exiting

But if I type:

ntpdate time.nist.gov   it will update the time. Is there something wrong with 
my /etc/ntp.conf file?

Lisa Casey
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Re: ntp problem

2009-04-20 Thread Frederique Rijsdijk

Lisa Casey wrote:

Running FreeBSD 5.3  IN /etc/ntp.conf I have:

server time.nist.gov prefer
server tock.gpsclock.com
driftfile /etc/ntp.drift
logfile /var/log/ntp.log

If I run ntpdate from a prompt, I get the following  error message:

# ntpdate
20 Apr 12:02:08 ntpdate[50109]: no servers can be used, exiting

But if I type:

ntpdate time.nist.gov   it will update the time. Is there something wrong with 
my /etc/ntp.conf file?

  



Give it some time (15-20 minutes or so). It will start to work like magic.


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Re: ntp problem

2009-04-20 Thread Jon Radel

Lisa Casey wrote:

Hi,

Running FreeBSD 5.3  IN /etc/ntp.conf I have:

server time.nist.gov prefer
server tock.gpsclock.com
driftfile /etc/ntp.drift
logfile /var/log/ntp.log

If I run ntpdate from a prompt, I get the following  error message:

# ntpdate
20 Apr 12:02:08 ntpdate[50109]: no servers can be used, exiting

But if I type:

ntpdate time.nist.gov   it will update the time. Is there something wrong with 
my /etc/ntp.conf file?


I don't believe ntpdate uses ntp.conf.  Try ntpd -q

I don't have 5 running anywhere anymore, but if you read the man pages 
for 6.3, it's clear that ntpdate is depreciated and on its way out.


Or you could just run ntpd as a daemon to maintain your time.
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Re: ntp problem

2009-04-20 Thread Peter Boosten
Lisa Casey wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Running FreeBSD 5.3  IN /etc/ntp.conf I have:
 
 server time.nist.gov prefer
 server tock.gpsclock.com
 driftfile /etc/ntp.drift
 logfile /var/log/ntp.log
 
 If I run ntpdate from a prompt, I get the following  error message:
 
 # ntpdate
 20 Apr 12:02:08 ntpdate[50109]: no servers can be used, exiting
 
 But if I type:
 
 ntpdate time.nist.gov   it will update the time. Is there something wrong 
 with my /etc/ntp.conf file?
 
 Lisa Casey

/etc/ntp.conf is for ntpd

Peter

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Re: ntp problem

2009-04-20 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Jon Radel wrote:
 Lisa Casey wrote:
 Hi,

 Running FreeBSD 5.3  IN /etc/ntp.conf I have:

 server time.nist.gov prefer
 server tock.gpsclock.com
 driftfile /etc/ntp.drift
 logfile /var/log/ntp.log

 If I run ntpdate from a prompt, I get the following  error message:

 # ntpdate
 20 Apr 12:02:08 ntpdate[50109]: no servers can be used, exiting

 But if I type:

 ntpdate time.nist.gov   it will update the time. Is there something
 wrong with my /etc/ntp.conf file?

 I don't believe ntpdate uses ntp.conf.  Try ntpd -q

 I don't have 5 running anywhere anymore, but if you read the man pages
 for 6.3, it's clear that ntpdate is depreciated and on its way out.

 Or you could just run ntpd as a daemon to maintain your time.

Exactly.
If you wish to use your /etc/ntp.conf file, add this to /etc/rc.conf:

ntpd_enable=YES

and start it with /etc/rc.d/ntpd start

check /var/log/messages to see when it kicks in. It normally takes some
time before it does the first correction. You will see messages like this:

Apr 20 18:41:46 atlantis ntpd[783]: time reset +0.416117 s
Apr 20 18:41:46 atlantis ntpd[783]: kernel time sync status change 2001

and then you will know it is working.

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Re: ntp problem

2009-04-20 Thread Lisa Casey

Thanks guys,

I did have ntpd and ntpdate confused. I have things working now. 


Lisa

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Re: NTP on 7.1 BETA amd64 odd behaviour

2008-09-19 Thread Oliver Fromme
Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thursday 18 September 2008 16:44:40 Nash Nipples wrote:
   thanks for the new /etc/rc.d/ntpd
   ...
   
rc_flags=-c ${ntpd_config} ${ntpd_flags}
   
   ...
   what we can learn from it is that on 7.1 BETA your rc.conf.local file
   should look like this
   
   ntpd_config=/etc/ntpd.conf
   ntpd_flags=-p /var/run/ntpd.pid
   
   hope that explains
   Nash
  
  Almost.
  Look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf:
  ntpd_config=/etc/ntp.conf # ntpd(8) configuration file
  ntpd_sync_on_start=NO # Sync time on ntpd startup, even if offset 
  is 
  high
  ntpd_flags=-p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
  # Flags to ntpd (if enabled).
  
  99% of the cases you don't need ntpd_flags. Only if you want the drift file 
  in 
  a different location or use one of the more obscure options.

In fact it might even be considered a bug that
-f /var/db/ntpd.drift is included in the default
flags.  If someone wants to override the default
location of the drift file, it is much better to
specify it in the ntp.conf file.

Best regards
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Re: NTP authentication using kerberos

2008-09-18 Thread Matthew Seaman

Da Rock wrote:

This may be a stupid question, and/or a chicken and egg conundrum:

Is it possible to use kerberos in authentication with an ntp server?

Here is my reasoning for this (and please correct any wrong assumptions
I have here): In the handbook regarding kerberos (and nearly every other
reliable source) kerberos is all or nothing- every service needs to be
included or it is not as secure as it should be. On the other hand,
there are problems with using kerberos if the time is not synchronised,
so use ntp.

And so far I have only found simple key authentication similar to dhcp
and dns to authenticate ntp with. But if kerberos provides keys then
this could be simpler, yes?

Once I have worked through this, I'd like to multicast ntp, but I think
I've got that sewn up already, unless anybody has some advice on this?
I'll probably be using the 239 subnet rather than 224 if that is not an
issue.

One more thing- if ntp uses the same sort of authentication as dhcp and
dns, is there a way to extend this kerberos setup (if it is possible
with ntp) to dhcp and dns on my local network? Or am I just getting too
ambitious with everything here? :)


NTP doesn't support Kerberos style authentication.  It has it's own
cryptographically secured authentication mechanisms.  See ntp-keygen(8)
However, doing the full-blown crypto security thing is generally over the
top for securing simple clients.  It's good for NTP servers, especially
if you have your own heirarchy of Stratum 1 and perhaps Stratum 2 servers 
and accurate timing really is critical for you.  Remember you need at least 
three independent time sources -- preferably four to give you some 
resilience -- in order to be able to detect if the clock has gone wonky on 
any one of your servers.


For supplying a time signal by multicast or broadcast, you have to enable
key based authentication on all the servers and clients.  The basic method
just uses what is effectively an 8 character random string as a password.
This is usually sufficient if all your client machines are on protected back end networks and taking a time signal from NTP servers entirely in 
your control.  You need to protect the ntp-keys file from exposure -- I 
like to create a root-only directory to hold it:


mkdir /etc/ntp
   mv ntp.keys /etc/ntp/
   chown -R root:wheel /etc/ntp
   chmod -R go-rwx /etc/ntp

For dhcp and DNS security -- there are all sorts of mechanisms for
authenticating and securing transactions between such servers.  In the
case of DNS, I suggest you read up on 'Tsig' (Transaction Signatures)
and DNSSEC -- this is a good resource: 


http://www.dnssec.net/why-deploy-dnssec

Cheers,

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Re: NTP authentication using kerberos

2008-09-18 Thread Da Rock

On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 08:28 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 Da Rock wrote:
  This may be a stupid question, and/or a chicken and egg conundrum:
  
  Is it possible to use kerberos in authentication with an ntp server?
  
  Here is my reasoning for this (and please correct any wrong assumptions
  I have here): In the handbook regarding kerberos (and nearly every other
  reliable source) kerberos is all or nothing- every service needs to be
  included or it is not as secure as it should be. On the other hand,
  there are problems with using kerberos if the time is not synchronised,
  so use ntp.
  
  And so far I have only found simple key authentication similar to dhcp
  and dns to authenticate ntp with. But if kerberos provides keys then
  this could be simpler, yes?
  
  Once I have worked through this, I'd like to multicast ntp, but I think
  I've got that sewn up already, unless anybody has some advice on this?
  I'll probably be using the 239 subnet rather than 224 if that is not an
  issue.
  
  One more thing- if ntp uses the same sort of authentication as dhcp and
  dns, is there a way to extend this kerberos setup (if it is possible
  with ntp) to dhcp and dns on my local network? Or am I just getting too
  ambitious with everything here? :)
 
 NTP doesn't support Kerberos style authentication.  It has it's own
 cryptographically secured authentication mechanisms.  See ntp-keygen(8)
 However, doing the full-blown crypto security thing is generally over the
 top for securing simple clients.  It's good for NTP servers, especially
 if you have your own heirarchy of Stratum 1 and perhaps Stratum 2 servers 
 and accurate timing really is critical for you.  Remember you need at least 
 three independent time sources -- preferably four to give you some 
 resilience -- in order to be able to detect if the clock has gone wonky on 
 any one of your servers.
 
 For supplying a time signal by multicast or broadcast, you have to enable
 key based authentication on all the servers and clients.  The basic method
 just uses what is effectively an 8 character random string as a password.
 This is usually sufficient if all your client machines are on protected back 
 end networks and taking a time signal from NTP servers entirely in 
 your control.  You need to protect the ntp-keys file from exposure -- I 
 like to create a root-only directory to hold it:
 
   mkdir /etc/ntp
 mv ntp.keys /etc/ntp/
 chown -R root:wheel /etc/ntp
 chmod -R go-rwx /etc/ntp
 
 For dhcp and DNS security -- there are all sorts of mechanisms for
 authenticating and securing transactions between such servers.  In the
 case of DNS, I suggest you read up on 'Tsig' (Transaction Signatures)
 and DNSSEC -- this is a good resource: 
 
 http://www.dnssec.net/why-deploy-dnssec
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew
 

Well thats good to know. I'm already using those methods on the dns and
dhcp server, seems isc have their own methods in security so I'll just
have to stick with those for ntp too.

For reference, how does this affect the whole kerberos setup if these
services are not in the kerberos system? Does it introduce a security
flaw? Any experts out there that can clarify this point? Or should I
just run these particular services outside the kerberos system (ie on a
separate machine not kerberos secured)?

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NTP on 7.1 BETA amd64 odd behaviour

2008-09-18 Thread Leslie Jensen


I have one 7.0-RELEASE machine running NTP with the following settings.

 rc.conf -
ntpd_enable=YES
ntpd_flags=-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid

 ntp.conf ---
server ntp2.sp.se
server ntp.lth.se
server ntp1.sp.se
driftfile /etc/ntp/ntp.drift


on my second machine  7.1-BETA amd64, the same configuration produces 
this error


--
:/etc/rc.d/ntpd start
Starting ntpd.
ERROR:  only one configfile option allowed
ntpd - NTP daemon program - Ver. 4.2.4p5
USAGE:  ntpd [ -flag [val] | --name[{=| }val] ]...
  Flg Arg Option-NameDescription
   -4 no  ipv4   Force IPv4 DNS name resolution
   -6 no  ipv6   Force IPv6 DNS name resolution
   -a no  authreqRequire crypto authentication
   -A no  authnoreq  Do not require crypto authentication
   -b no  bcastsync  Allow us to sync to broadcast servers
   -c Str configfile configuration file name
   -f Str driftfile  frequency drift file name
   -g no  panicgate  Allow the first adjustment to be Big
   -i Str jaildirJail directory
   -I Str interface  Listen on interface
   -k Str keyfilepath to symmetric keys
   -l Str logfilepath to the log file
   -L no  novirtualips   Do not listen to virtual IPs
   -n no  nofork Do not fork
   -N no  nice   Run at high priority
   -p Str pidfilepath to the PID file
   -P Num priority   Process priority
   -q no  quit   Set the time and quit
   -r Str propagationdelay Broadcast/propagation delay
   -U Num updateinterval interval in seconds between scans for new or 
dropped in

terfaces
   -s Str statsdir   Statistics file location
   -t Str trustedkey Trusted key number
   -u Str user   Run as userid (or userid:groupid)
   -v Str varmake ARG an ntp variable (RW)
   -V Str dvar   make ARG an ntp variable (RW|DEF)
   -x no  slew   Slew up to 600 seconds
   -v opt versionOutput version information and exit
   -? no  help   Display usage information and exit
   -! no  more-help  Extended usage information passed thru pager

Options are specified by doubled hyphens and their name
or by a single hyphen and the flag character.

please send bug reports to:  http://bugs.ntp.isc.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-

If I comment out the

ntpd_flags=-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid

line.

ntp starts without any error.

Should I accept this or is something wrong?

Thanks
/Leslie

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Re: NTP on 7.1 BETA amd64 odd behaviour

2008-09-18 Thread Nash Nipples
 -
 
 If I comment out the
 
 ntpd_flags=-c /etc/ntp.conf -p
 /var/run/ntpd.pid
 
 line.
 
 ntp starts without any error.
 
 Should I accept this or is something wrong?
 
 Thanks
 /Leslie

Looks like it wants only one parameter as a flag in rc.conf.local
You can try to change it to just ntpd_flags=-p /var/run/ntpd.pid
If you look through the code in /etc/rc.d/ntpd file it might become more clear 
to you.


  
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Re: NTP on 7.1 BETA amd64 odd behaviour

2008-09-18 Thread Nash Nipples
thanks for the new /etc/rc.d/ntpd
...
 rc_flags=-c ${ntpd_config} ${ntpd_flags}
...
what we can learn from it is that on 7.1 BETA your rc.conf.local file should 
look like this

ntpd_config=/etc/ntpd.conf
ntpd_flags=-p /var/run/ntpd.pid

hope that explains
Nash


  
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Re: NTP on 7.1 BETA amd64 odd behaviour

2008-09-18 Thread Mel
On Thursday 18 September 2008 16:44:40 Nash Nipples wrote:
 thanks for the new /etc/rc.d/ntpd
 ...

  rc_flags=-c ${ntpd_config} ${ntpd_flags}

 ...
 what we can learn from it is that on 7.1 BETA your rc.conf.local file
 should look like this

 ntpd_config=/etc/ntpd.conf
 ntpd_flags=-p /var/run/ntpd.pid

 hope that explains
 Nash

Almost.
Look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf:
ntpd_config=/etc/ntp.conf # ntpd(8) configuration file
ntpd_sync_on_start=NO # Sync time on ntpd startup, even if offset is 
high
ntpd_flags=-p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
# Flags to ntpd (if enabled).

99% of the cases you don't need ntpd_flags. Only if you want the drift file in 
a different location or use one of the more obscure options.

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NTP authentication using kerberos

2008-09-17 Thread Da Rock
This may be a stupid question, and/or a chicken and egg conundrum:

Is it possible to use kerberos in authentication with an ntp server?

Here is my reasoning for this (and please correct any wrong assumptions
I have here): In the handbook regarding kerberos (and nearly every other
reliable source) kerberos is all or nothing- every service needs to be
included or it is not as secure as it should be. On the other hand,
there are problems with using kerberos if the time is not synchronised,
so use ntp.

And so far I have only found simple key authentication similar to dhcp
and dns to authenticate ntp with. But if kerberos provides keys then
this could be simpler, yes?

Once I have worked through this, I'd like to multicast ntp, but I think
I've got that sewn up already, unless anybody has some advice on this?
I'll probably be using the 239 subnet rather than 224 if that is not an
issue.

One more thing- if ntp uses the same sort of authentication as dhcp and
dns, is there a way to extend this kerberos setup (if it is possible
with ntp) to dhcp and dns on my local network? Or am I just getting too
ambitious with everything here? :)

Cheers

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ipv6 ntp multicast address specification

2008-08-12 Thread Reinhard Haller

Hi,

what is the suggested address spec for manycastclient/manycastserver in 
ntp.conf?


manycastserver ff02::101
manycastserver ff02::101%em0
manycastserver ff02:1::101

manycastclient ff05::101

Thanks
Reinhard

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Re: IPV6 NTP

2007-11-23 Thread Matthew Seaman
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 I am running FreeBSD 6.2 in a totally IPV6-only aware environment. I
 want to set up an NTP server by pointing to an IPV6 stratum 1
 address. Can I just add an IPV6 address in the NTP.conf file just as
 I would do for an IPV4 server?

Yes.  In fact, just put in the host name and NTP will default to using
the IPv6  address.

Cheers,

Matthew

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IPV6 NTP

2007-11-22 Thread takhoos

I am running FreeBSD 6.2 in a totally IPV6-only aware environment.   I want to 
set up an NTP server by pointing to an IPV6 stratum 1 address.  Can I just add 
an IPV6 address in the NTP.conf file just as I would do for an IPV4 server? 
 
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/etc/ntp -- What is this directory used for?

2007-06-20 Thread Modulok

The ntpd(8) manpage states that its config file is looked for at
/etc/ntp.conf, by default. Drift files are stored in  /etc/ntp.drift,
but this is overridden to be to be /var/db/ntpd.drift, as specified by
the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file. Keys are stored at /etc/ntp.keys by
default.

Question: If that is the case, what is the directory /etc/ntp used
for? It is only readable by root, so it must be some manner of
sensitive information...

Thanks.
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Re: /etc/ntp -- What is this directory used for?

2007-06-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
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Modulok wrote:
 The ntpd(8) manpage states that its config file is looked for at
 /etc/ntp.conf, by default. Drift files are stored in  /etc/ntp.drift,
 but this is overridden to be to be /var/db/ntpd.drift, as specified by
 the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file. Keys are stored at /etc/ntp.keys by
 default.
 
 Question: If that is the case, what is the directory /etc/ntp used
 for? It is only readable by root, so it must be some manner of
 sensitive information...

Cryptographic keys for NTPv4 authentication.  See ntp-keygen(8) --
although that manual page misleadingly talks about '/usr/local/etc' which
is  incorrect on FreeBSD where ntpd is part of the base system.

Although I generally use /etc/ntp/ntp.keys for the password style stuff
instead of /etc/ntp.keys 

Cheers,

Matthew

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NTP broadcast with autokey setup

2007-05-02 Thread Vince
Hi all,
I've been trying to follow the instructions to setup autokey
authentication at http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Support/ConfiguringAutokey
using IFF Parameters.
As yet i havent been able to get this working and I'm not sure why,
Does anyone have a working server and client config they would be
willing to share, or better yet a methodology to follow.


Thanks,
Vince
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setting up ntp on 6.2 with jailed hosts

2007-04-17 Thread Dave

Hello,
   I've got a 6.2 box that i'm running several jails on. I'm trying to get 
ntpd going so the box can sync it's time with the local lan ntp server. In 
the host system's rc.conf i have:


ntpd_enable=YES
ntpd_sync_on_start=YES

That second line from my understanding takes away the need to run ntpdate? 
Ntpd does start, but i'm getting the below errors i'm wondering if this is a 
firewall issue or a reaction to running ntp on a host system with jails or 
another problem?

Thanks.
Dave.

Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Sun Apr  1 21:07:28 EDT 2007 
(1)
Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 2, port 123, addr 
0.0.0.0, in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use
Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 28, port 123, addr ::, 
in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0 fails: Address already in use
Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 2, port 123, addr 
192.168.0.3, in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use
Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 2, port 123, addr 
192.168.0.200, in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use
Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 28, port 123, addr 
fe80:2::1, in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0 fails: Address already in use
Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 28, port 123, addr 
::1, in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0 fails: Address already in use
Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 2, port 123, addr 
127.0.0.1, in_classd=0 flags=0 fails: Address already in use

Apr 17 09:55:03 zeus ntpd[65236]: sendto(192.168.0.254): Bad file descriptor
Apr 17 09:56:07 zeus ntpd[65236]: sendto(192.168.0.254): Bad file descriptor

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Re: setting up ntp on 6.2 with jailed hosts

2007-04-17 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello,
 I've got a 6.2 box that i'm running several jails on. I'm trying to get 
 ntpd going so the box can sync it's time with the local lan ntp server. In 
 the host system's rc.conf i have:
 
 ntpd_enable=YES
 ntpd_sync_on_start=YES
 
 That second line from my understanding takes away the need to run ntpdate? 
 Ntpd does start, but i'm getting the below errors i'm wondering if this is a 
 firewall issue or a reaction to running ntp on a host system with jails or 
 another problem?

You have some other program already running on port 123.  Perhaps another
instance of nptd?  Try sockstat -4 | grep 123 and see what comes up.

This is not specifically a jail problem, but it could be that you
accidentally configured one of your jails to start ntpd as well.  This
is unnecessary.  Each jail will get it's time from the host, so it's
only necessary to sync the host.

 Thanks.
 Dave.
 
 Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Sun Apr  1 21:07:28 EDT 2007 
 (1)
 Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 2, port 123, addr 
 0.0.0.0, in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use
 Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 28, port 123, addr ::, 
 in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0 fails: Address already in use
 Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 2, port 123, addr 
 192.168.0.3, in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use
 Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 2, port 123, addr 
 192.168.0.200, in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use
 Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 28, port 123, addr 
 fe80:2::1, in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0 fails: Address already in use
 Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 28, port 123, addr 
 ::1, in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0 fails: Address already in use
 Apr 17 09:55:02 zeus ntpd[65236]: bind() fd 4, family 2, port 123, addr 
 127.0.0.1, in_classd=0 flags=0 fails: Address already in use
 Apr 17 09:55:03 zeus ntpd[65236]: sendto(192.168.0.254): Bad file descriptor
 Apr 17 09:56:07 zeus ntpd[65236]: sendto(192.168.0.254): Bad file descriptor
 
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Re: NTP: Driving Me Nuts

2007-03-23 Thread Bob Johnson

Are all three of these systems using the same router to share the same
IP number?  It may be that the router is having trouble keeping track
of three connections to the same port on the same server (I don't
think it SHOULD, but maybe it is).

If that's the case, you can fix it by using a different server for
each machine.  I suggest:

server   0.us.pool.ntp.org
server   1.us.pool.ntp.org
server   2.us.pool.ntp.org
(for those in other countries, change us to the appropriate country
code, and see http://www.pool.ntp.org for more info).

In fact, since NTP works best if you use more than one server, and
those addresses return random servers, just put all three of those
server lines in each configuration file.

- Bob


On 6/12/05, David Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm having an awful time trying to get NTP working on some new servers.

Consider three machines:

jeffy: my home machine, runs 5.4 with a very sleek kernel, sits behind a
router.

web1: one of the new servers, running 5.4-p2 with a kernel
configuration that *only* has options INET6 commented out:

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25c25
 ident GENERIC
---
 ident WEB
32c32
 options   INET6   # IPv6 communications protocols
---
 #options  INET6   # IPv6 communications protocols


web2: another of the new servers, running 5.4 with GENERIC

All three have the same /etc/ntp.conf:

server sundial.columbia.edu
driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift

All, of course, have ntpd_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf

Here are the relevant lines from the log when I run /etc/rc.d/ntpd
start, after making sure it is stopped, of course.  When any of them
is stopped netstat -n | fgrep 123 yields no lines.

jeffy:

Jun 11 23:24:53 jeffy ntpd[90141]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Mon May  9 15:42:44 PDT 2005
(1)
Jun 11 23:24:53 jeffy ntpd[90141]: no IPv6 interfaces found

web1:

Jun 12 02:28:23 web1 ntpd[783]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Sun Jun 12 00:46:05 EDT 2005
(1)
Jun 12 02:28:23 web1 ntpd[783]: no IPv6 interfaces found
Jun 12 02:28:23 web1 ntpd[783]: bind() fd 6, family 2, port 123, addr
0.0.0.0, in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use

web2:

Jun 12 02:24:28 web2 ntpd[32792]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Sun May  8 06:01:21 UTC 2005
(1)
Jun 12 02:24:28 web2 ntpd[32792]: bind() fd 9, family 2, port 123,
addr 0.0.0.0, in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use


'ntpq -p' on jeffy returns a normal looking ntpq result.  'ntpq -p' on
either web1 or web2 eventually times out.  However, if I put a
restrict into their ntp.conf I get something like

 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset
jitter
==
 hickory.cc.colu .INIT.  16 u-   6400.0000.000
4000.00

that never changes, even after several hours.

I've read a lot of similar problem reports, but none of them ever seem
to have a definitive answer.

Can anyone help?  I'm really mystified.

The only thing I have left to try is that I have noticed that jeffy
has NO_INET6 = true set in /etc/make.conf, whereas web1 does not have
this.
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Freebsd 6.2 PPS (pps.ko) and NTP

2007-02-23 Thread Aaron D. Gifford

Hi,

I've got a Garmin GPS 18 LVD attached to a serial port on a FreeBSD 6.2 
box.  I've been trying to enable PPS support for ntpd on the BSD box, 
but this is all I get as a result:



  20 Feb 10:41:46 ntpd[14503]: refclock_nmea: time_pps_kcbind failed: 
Operation not supported


I do have pps.ko and ppbus.ko kernel modules loaded according to kldstat.

My ntpd.conf looks like:

  # Garmin GPS 18 LVD (OEM) reference clock:
  server 127.127.20.0 mode 1 minpoll 4
  fudge  127.127.20.0 time1 0.000 flag2 0 flag3 1 refid PPS

The GPS 18 is configured to enable PPS (set to a 200ms pulse width) and 
it's wired to DCD on the serial port.


Any ideas?  I'm an NTP GPS refclock newbie...

Thanks,
Aaron out.
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Re: setting ntp-servers for ntpdate via dhcp

2006-07-03 Thread Erik Norgaard

Jonathan Horne wrote:

On Sunday 02 July 2006 15:49, Erik Nørgaard wrote:

There is a dhcp-option, ntp-servers, to set which ntp-server to use. It
would be quite useful with ntpdate. Does anyone have a patch to ntpdate
startup script or other hack that use this option? - just before I start
hacking myself...


my ntp options in /etc/rc.conf look like this:

ntpdate_enable=YES
ntpdate_hosts=us.pool.ntp.org
ntpd_enable=YES

when my system boots, ntpdate forces the time to syncronize (no matter how far 
off it is), and then ntp takes over from there.


I have that too, the point is not that ntpdate doesn't work, but that 
configuration via dhcp is not supported. And since dhcp provides the 
option, it would be quite neat to support it.


So something like this in rc.conf would be nice:

  ntpdate_enable=DHCP
  ntpdate_hosts=ntp.domain.tld

When set to DHCP the ntpdate script should parse the lease file to find 
any available ntp server to use. The hosts option should be fallback if 
the dhcp server did not provide a list of available ntp-servers.


Currently such functionality is not supported, and just before I go 
ahead and hack something up, it would be nice to know if others have 
done the effort.


Cheers, Erik


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setting ntp-servers for ntpdate via dhcp

2006-07-02 Thread Erik Nørgaard
Hi:

There is a dhcp-option, ntp-servers, to set which ntp-server to use. It
would be quite useful with ntpdate. Does anyone have a patch to ntpdate
startup script or other hack that use this option? - just before I start
hacking myself...

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Re: setting ntp-servers for ntpdate via dhcp

2006-07-02 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Sunday 02 July 2006 15:49, Erik Nørgaard wrote:
 Hi:

 There is a dhcp-option, ntp-servers, to set which ntp-server to use. It
 would be quite useful with ntpdate. Does anyone have a patch to ntpdate
 startup script or other hack that use this option? - just before I start
 hacking myself...

 Thanks, Erik

my ntp options in /etc/rc.conf look like this:


ntpdate_enable=YES
ntpdate_hosts=us.pool.ntp.org
ntpd_enable=YES

when my system boots, ntpdate forces the time to syncronize (no matter how far 
off it is), and then ntp takes over from there.

hth,
jonathan
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Re: Getting NTP (ntpd, ntpdate) to work

2006-07-02 Thread Charles Bacon

Thanks for the return!  I've discovered my ISP has apparently shut off
port 123 (NTP), and if I dontpdate -u ntp.cape.comI get my
time set!  But ntpq lacks ntpdate's option to use an unprivileged port.
I guess time is come to ask my ISP.  (Shouldn't I have done tha before :-]

Again thanks!
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PS: Yes, I use netmask 255.255.255.240 (0xfff0); a vain hope that
there's a tiny increment of security in it, and a belief in the definitions
of net classes.

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006, Nick Withers wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:30:55 -0400 (EDT)
Charles Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Since FreeBSD 4.5-Release, I have been unable to get NTP working on
my two FreeBSD computers, one running 5.3Release and the other on
6.1Release.  I have done nothing with the GENERIC kernel on either
machine.  I talk SSH between them, and have been running ntpd on
both, each naming the other as well as two external servers.

My network is a typical home net, using 192.168.1/28,


You mean /24 (i.e.: 255.255.255.0, Class C), yeah?


served by a DSL router which does NAT for my external traffic.
Internal comms. is through switches, plus one hub.  Each computer
(plus some others running Windows) has easy access out, and is
invisible from the Internet exceptt for responses.

Here's my ntp.conf, identical on my two computers:

server ntp.cape.com
server ntp.ourconcord.net
driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift
logfile /var/log/ntplog
pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid
logconfig =all
peer 192.168.1.3
peer 192.168.1.2(much comments removed)

With mediocre diagnostic skill, I have finally discovered tcpdump.
It told me after much experiment, that the relevant port (NTP, 123) was
unreachable.  This sounds significant, but I can't find a list of the
reachability of ports.


Try netstat(1). netstat -anp udp might be of help in
particular, here.


I've looked at ng*, mac_* and pf* and finally bpf*, and only the last seems
to exist in /dev.

I had expected that GENERIC would impose only slight filtering somehow,
and certainly not shut off NTP!  I guess I need help.


If you've loaded a firewall such as IPFW in /etc/rc.conf a
kernel module will be loaded for it, if it's not compiled
statically into hte kernel already (which it isn't on GENERIC
for either 5.3-RELEASE or 6.1-RELEASE). kldstat will list
loaded modules (and the IPFW module is ipfw.ko).


Thanks for any help you can give, and I accept any opprobrium for trying
to be a sysadmin, even for my home boxen.

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Re: Getting NTP (ntpd, ntpdate) to work

2006-06-18 Thread Nick Withers
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:30:55 -0400 (EDT)
Charles Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since FreeBSD 4.5-Release, I have been unable to get NTP working on
 my two FreeBSD computers, one running 5.3Release and the other on
 6.1Release.  I have done nothing with the GENERIC kernel on either
 machine.  I talk SSH between them, and have been running ntpd on
 both, each naming the other as well as two external servers.
 
 My network is a typical home net, using 192.168.1/28, 

You mean /24 (i.e.: 255.255.255.0, Class C), yeah?

 served by a DSL router which does NAT for my external traffic.
 Internal comms. is through switches, plus one hub.  Each computer
 (plus some others running Windows) has easy access out, and is
 invisible from the Internet exceptt for responses.
 
 Here's my ntp.conf, identical on my two computers:
 
   server ntp.cape.com
   server ntp.ourconcord.net
   driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift
   logfile /var/log/ntplog
   pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid
   logconfig =all
   peer 192.168.1.3
   peer 192.168.1.2(much comments removed)
 
 With mediocre diagnostic skill, I have finally discovered tcpdump.
 It told me after much experiment, that the relevant port (NTP, 123) was
 unreachable.  This sounds significant, but I can't find a list of the
 reachability of ports.

Try netstat(1). netstat -anp udp might be of help in
particular, here.

 I've looked at ng*, mac_* and pf* and finally bpf*, and only the last seems
 to exist in /dev.
 
 I had expected that GENERIC would impose only slight filtering somehow,
 and certainly not shut off NTP!  I guess I need help.

If you've loaded a firewall such as IPFW in /etc/rc.conf a
kernel module will be loaded for it, if it's not compiled
statically into hte kernel already (which it isn't on GENERIC
for either 5.3-RELEASE or 6.1-RELEASE). kldstat will list
loaded modules (and the IPFW module is ipfw.ko).

 Thanks for any help you can give, and I accept any opprobrium for trying
 to be a sysadmin, even for my home boxen.
 
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Getting NTP (ntpd, ntpdate) to work

2006-06-17 Thread Charles Bacon

Since FreeBSD 4.5-Release, I have been unable to get NTP working on
my two FreeBSD computers, one running 5.3Release and the other on
6.1Release.  I have done nothing with the GENERIC kernel on either
machine.  I talk SSH between them, and have been running ntpd on
both, each naming the other as well as two external servers.

My network is a typical home net, using 192.168.1/28, served by a
DSL router which does NAT for my external traffic.  Internal comms.
is through switches, plus one hub.  Each computer (plus some others
running Windows) has easy access out, and is invisible from the
Internet exceptt for responses.

Here's my ntp.conf, identical on my two computers:

server ntp.cape.com
server ntp.ourconcord.net
driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift
logfile /var/log/ntplog
pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid
logconfig =all
peer 192.168.1.3
peer 192.168.1.2(much comments removed)

With mediocre diagnostic skill, I have finally discovered tcpdump.
It told me after much experiment, that the relevant port (NTP, 123) was
unreachable.  This sounds significant, but I can't find a list of the
reachability of ports.  I've looked at ng*, mac_* and pf* and finally
bpf*, and only the last seems to exist in /dev.

I had expected that GENERIC would impose only slight filtering somehow,
and certainly not shut off NTP!  I guess I need help.

Thanks for any help you can give, and I accept any opprobrium for trying
to be a sysadmin, even for my home boxen.

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Re: NTP

2006-01-20 Thread Evgeny Solovyov

Try ntpdate -b foo.foo


Aguiar Magalhaes wrote:

Hi list,

When I type ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov (or another server)
the answer is no server suitable for synchronization
found...

What is wrong ?

Aguiar










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NTP

2006-01-19 Thread Aguiar Magalhaes
Hi list,

When I type ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov (or another server)
the answer is no server suitable for synchronization
found...

What is wrong ?

Aguiar










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Re: NTP

2006-01-19 Thread N.J. Thomas
* Aguiar Magalhaes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-01-19 16:35:25 -0300]:
 When I type ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov (or another server) the answer is
 no server suitable for synchronization found...

Works fine over here. Can you connect to the NTP port on that server?
Try this:

nc -u -v ntp.nasa.gov 123

and see if you get a connection succeeded message.

Also, have you thought about using pool.ntp.org instead?

Thomas

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Re: NTP

2006-01-19 Thread albi
Aguiar Magalhaes wrote:

 When I type ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov (or another server)
 the answer is no server suitable for synchronization
 found...

perhaps there's a problem with your internet-connection somehow or your
DNS-settings or firewall- or proxy-settings ? (ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov
works fine here)

trying ntpdate with the -d parameter is also an idea

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Re: NTP

2006-01-19 Thread Pietro Cerutti
On 1/19/06, Aguiar Magalhaes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi list,

 When I type ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov (or another server)
 the answer is no server suitable for synchronization
 found...

# ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov
19 Jan 20:45:32 ntpdate[17119]: adjust time server 198.123.30.132
offset 0.000333 sec

Can you ping that server or any other ntp server?
Are you behind a firewall?



 What is wrong ?

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unable to build ntp

2006-01-16 Thread Brad Gilmer
Help please.  I am running 6.0-RELEASE, and am trying to build 
ntp.  Process fails during ./configure with the following results:


# cd /usr/src/contrib/ntp
# ./configure
--snip---
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: creating ElectricFence/Makefile
config.status: error: cannot find input file: ElectricFence/Makefile.in

Interestingly, I get the same results using a 4.5 machine.  I note 
that in the /usr/src/contrib/ntp/FREBSD-upgrade file, it states in part,


For the import of NTP the following files were removed:
   ElectricFence/*

so it makes sense that ElectricFence is not there, but how do I get 
rid of the error?


Background:
I have the following entry in my crontab:
7 0-23 * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s pool.ntp.org /dev/null
In the old days, ntpdate would only send root an email if it could 
not find a server.  Now I get emails every time the cron runs, even 
though I am dumping STDOUT to /dev/null.  Problem is code in 6.0 
directs server found messages to STDERR, while 4.5 code did not 
contain this.  I want to recompile with the server found messages 
directed to STDOUT.


Thanks in advance,
Brad


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Re: unable to build ntp

2006-01-16 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 16), Brad Gilmer said:
 Help please.  I am running 6.0-RELEASE, and am trying to build ntp. 
 Process fails during ./configure with the following results:
 
 # cd /usr/src/contrib/ntp
 # ./configure

You want to build /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp .  /usr/src/contrib is just
where the original distribution files live.

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Re: unable to build ntp

2006-01-16 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Brad Gilmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Help please.  I am running 6.0-RELEASE, and am trying to build ntp.
 Process fails during ./configure with the following results:
 
 # cd /usr/src/contrib/ntp
 # ./configure
 --snip---
 configure: creating ./config.status
 config.status: creating Makefile
 config.status: creating ElectricFence/Makefile
 config.status: error: cannot find input file: ElectricFence/Makefile.in
 
 Interestingly, I get the same results using a 4.5 machine.  I note
 that in the /usr/src/contrib/ntp/FREBSD-upgrade file, it states in
 part,
 
 For the import of NTP the following files were removed:
 ElectricFence/*
 
 so it makes sense that ElectricFence is not there, but how do I get
 rid of the error?
 
 Background:
 I have the following entry in my crontab:
 7 0-23 * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s pool.ntp.org /dev/null
 In the old days, ntpdate would only send root an email if it could not
 find a server.  Now I get emails every time the cron runs, even though
 I am dumping STDOUT to /dev/null.  Problem is code in 6.0 directs
 server found messages to STDERR, while 4.5 code did not contain this.
 I want to recompile with the server found messages directed to STDOUT.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Brad
 
 
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You could always try building from the directory that buildworld uses: 
/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp.  

But the easier answer would be to redirect stderr as well as stdout
when calling ntpdate, and generate a message only if ntpdate returns
an error result.  Or run ntpd...

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Re: unable to build ntp

2006-01-16 Thread BSD Questions user
Thanks everyone for the help.  For the archive:
I went to /usr/src/contrib/ntp/ntpdate and edited ntpdate.c.  I searched for
'host found' and changed the stderror to stdout.  I then went to 
/usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp and performed a make install clean.  Problem solved; the 
new 'host found' messages now go to stdout, just like all the other messages, 
so I can dump them to /dev/null, but 'host not found' error messages still show 
up as mail to root.

Brad
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Re: unable to build ntp

2006-01-16 Thread Daniel
On 1/17/06, BSD Questions user [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks everyone for the help.  For the archive:
 I went to /usr/src/contrib/ntp/ntpdate and edited ntpdate.c.  I searched for
 'host found' and changed the stderror to stdout.  I then went to 
 /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp and performed a make install clean.  Problem solved; 
 the new 'host found' messages now go to stdout, just like all the other 
 messages, so I can dump them to /dev/null, but 'host not found' error 
 messages still show up as mail to root.

 Brad

As cron generally uses /bin/sh as the shell (set near the top of
/etc/crontab) you could have used
/usr/sbin/ntpdate -s pool.ntp.org 2/dev/null
instead of
 /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s pool.ntp.org /dev/null
and I believe you could also extend it to 2/dev/null  /dev/null
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Re: ntp problems (strata too high)

2005-12-17 Thread Chuck Swiger
Christopher McGee wrote:
[ ... ]
 I hate to reopen a dead thread, however, I'm having a very strange
 problem I have 2 machines running ntpd.  I just set this up and it is
 not working.
[ ... ]
 192.168.1.3.STEP.  16 u1  12800.0000.000
 192.168.1.2.DROP.  16 u-   6400.0000.000

When a machine is badly out of sync, it indicates this by setting it's stratum
to an unbelievable level, so other NTP servers avoid depending on it until some
time has passed and the server's time remains stable for a reasonable time 
period.

This appears to be what is happening with the .DROP. and .STEP. refid's you've
shown.  Be patient, NTPD ought to sync up given a few hours...

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Re: ntp problems (strata too high)

2005-12-16 Thread Christopher McGee



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I hate to reopen a dead thread, however, I'm having a very strange 
problem  I have 2 machines running ntpd.  I just set this up and it is 
not working.  I don't think the ntpd servers are syncing properly and 
ntpdate -b 192.168.1.2 doesn't work, it gives me a strata too high with 
the -d flag.  Here is my current config/output, this network is not 
actually nat'd private ips so I changed the ips for security reasons:


server1(192.168.1.2)
/etc/ntp.conf
server 0.pool.ntp.org
server 1.pool.ntp.org
server 2.pool.ntp.org
server pool.ntp.org
peer 192.168.1.3
restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify notrap
logconfig =syncall +clockall +sysall

ntpq -p output
remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  
jitter

==
+195.216.80.207  195.216.80.206   2 u  283  512   37  109.803  -230.38  
62.815
*ipd50ad048.spee 130.149.17.8 2 u  285  512   37  101.458  -190.45  
85.706
+antares.speedne 217.11.227.683 u  285  512   37  137.773  -192.71  
85.431
+cheddar.halon.o 129.240.64.3 3 u  282  512   37   76.770  -276.95  
62.389
192.168.1.3.STEP.  16 u1  12800.0000.000 
4000.00


server2 (192.168.1.3)
/etc/ntp.conf
server 0.pool.ntp.org
server 1.pool.ntp.org
server 2.pool.ntp.org
server pool.ntp.org
peer 192.168.1.2
restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify notrap
logconfig =syncall +clockall +sysall

ntpq -p output
remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  
jitter

==
zirkon.biophys. 134.99.128.802 u   71  1287   94.189  -77.270  
27.511
oubliette.mctav .MSF.1 u   70  1287   98.417  -38.531  
16.505
antares.speedne 217.11.227.683 u   70  1287  136.851  -53.314  
27.989
cteha.ulp.co.il 192.114.62.249   3 u5  1287  170.650  -52.706  
17.982
192.168.1.2.DROP.  16 u-   6400.0000.000 
4000.00


Any help getting this to work will be appreciated.

Chris
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Re: ntp problems (strata too high)

2005-12-16 Thread Christopher McGee



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I hate to reopen a dead thread, however, I'm having a very strange 
problem  I have 2 machines running ntpd.  I just set this up and it is 
not working.  I don't think the ntpd servers are syncing properly and 
ntpdate -b 192.168.1.2 doesn't work, it gives me a strata too high 
with the -d flag.  Here is my current config/output, this network is 
not actually nat'd private ips so I changed the ips for security reasons:


server1(192.168.1.2)
/etc/ntp.conf
server 0.pool.ntp.org
server 1.pool.ntp.org
server 2.pool.ntp.org
server pool.ntp.org
peer 192.168.1.3
restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify notrap
logconfig =syncall +clockall +sysall

ntpq -p output
remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  
jitter
== 

+195.216.80.207  195.216.80.206   2 u  283  512   37  109.803  
-230.38  62.815
*ipd50ad048.spee 130.149.17.8 2 u  285  512   37  101.458  
-190.45  85.706
+antares.speedne 217.11.227.683 u  285  512   37  137.773  
-192.71  85.431
+cheddar.halon.o 129.240.64.3 3 u  282  512   37   76.770  
-276.95  62.389
192.168.1.3.STEP.  16 u1  12800.0000.000 
4000.00


server2 (192.168.1.3)
/etc/ntp.conf
server 0.pool.ntp.org
server 1.pool.ntp.org
server 2.pool.ntp.org
server pool.ntp.org
peer 192.168.1.2
restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify notrap
logconfig =syncall +clockall +sysall

ntpq -p output
remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  
jitter
== 

zirkon.biophys. 134.99.128.802 u   71  1287   94.189  -77.270  
27.511
oubliette.mctav .MSF.1 u   70  1287   98.417  -38.531  
16.505
antares.speedne 217.11.227.683 u   70  1287  136.851  -53.314  
27.989
cteha.ulp.co.il 192.114.62.249   3 u5  1287  170.650  -52.706  
17.982
192.168.1.2.DROP.  16 u-   6400.0000.000 
4000.00


Any help getting this to work will be appreciated.

Chris
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This has been resolved.  I waslked away for about 7 hours and suddenly 
it works.  It just resolved itself.


Chris
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ntp problems (strata too high)

2005-12-08 Thread Michael Wynne
 

 

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Re: ntp problems (strata too high)

2005-12-08 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
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Re: Ntp Runs 2 Processes

2005-11-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Dev Tugnait [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Upong booting my machine i noticed ntp running 2 processes.
 
 root 456  0.0  0.1  2952  1396  ??  Ss4:30AM
 0:00.50 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/
 root 803  0.0  0.1  2952  1404  ??  S 4:31AM
 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/
 
 rc.conf info
 ntpd_enable=YES
 ntpd_flags=-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid
 ntpdate_enable=YES
 ntpdate_flags=ntp2.usno.navy.mil

I'd guess that something else is being configured to start ntp as well...
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Re: Ntp Runs 2 Processes

2005-11-17 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 08:58:02AM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Dev Tugnait [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Upong booting my machine i noticed ntp running 2 processes.
  
  root 456  0.0  0.1  2952  1396  ??  Ss4:30AM
  0:00.50 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/
  root 803  0.0  0.1  2952  1404  ??  S 4:31AM
  0:00.01 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/
  
  rc.conf info
  ntpd_enable=YES
  ntpd_flags=-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid
  ntpdate_enable=YES
  ntpdate_flags=ntp2.usno.navy.mil
 
 I'd guess that something else is being configured to start ntp as well...

When ntp starts it spawns a child to help with syncing. Check the
parent-child relationships on the processes. The child process will
terminate after ntp makes up its mind which timeserver to sync
against.

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Ntp Runs 2 Processes

2005-11-16 Thread Dev Tugnait
Upong booting my machine i noticed ntp running 2 processes.

root 456  0.0  0.1  2952  1396  ??  Ss4:30AM
0:00.50 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/
root 803  0.0  0.1  2952  1404  ??  S 4:31AM
0:00.01 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/

rc.conf info
ntpd_enable=YES
ntpd_flags=-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid
ntpdate_enable=YES
ntpdate_flags=ntp2.usno.navy.mil


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Re: ntp handling in 6.0

2005-11-15 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Don't top-post, please.

Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thanks for your reply. My server box does indeed have ntpd running
 i confirmed it with ps -aux and it does have a pf firewall. The rules
 are:
 
 # allow UDP requests to port 123 from firewall to exit ext_if_if
 # in order to contact internet ntp servers
 # (keep state on this connection)
 pass out quick on $ext_if inet proto { tcp, udp} from $ext_if to any port 123 
 keep state
 
 # allow UDP requests to ports 67, 68, and 123 from # in order to perform dhcp 
 and ntp queries on the firewall
 # ( Keep state on this connection)
 pass in quick on $int_if inet proto { tcp,udp } from $int_net to $int_if port 
 { 67, 68, 123 } keep state

There's probably a syntax issue here; I don't use pf, so the fact that
I don't personally see a problem may not mean anthing.  You could try
debugging it by seeing whether the request packets actually get out of
the firewall, and whether responses come back.

 and ntpdc shows me a prompt.

But does it see any peers?
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Re: ntp handling in 6.0

2005-11-14 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello,
 Has ntp handling changed in 6.0-RELEASE? I've been through the
 handbook and /etc/defaults/rc.conf but haven't found the answer to
 this. I've got a machine acting as an ntp server for a network. When i
 run ntpdate -b IP from another machine i get the error No servers
 suitable for synchronization found. Ntpd from these other boxes shows
 the same. From the local ntp server to the ntp servers on the internet
 works fine.
 The local ntp server's configuration is as follows:
 
 /etc/rc.conf
 ntpdate_enable=YES
 ntpdate_flags=-b servername
 ntpd_enable=YES
 ntpd_flags=-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid
 
 ntp.conf
 server servername prefer
 server servername
 servername
 driftfile /etc/ntp.drift
 restrict 192.168.9.0 mask 255.255.255.0 notrust nomodify notrap
 
 and on client boxes:
 
 /etc/rc.conf
 ntpdate_enable=YES
 ntpdate_flags=-b local ntp server IP
 ntpd_enable=YES
 ntpd_flags=-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid
 
 /etc/ntp.conf
 server local-ntp-server-ip prefer
 driftfile /etc/ntp.drift

Is there an ntpd running?
Is there a firewall in the way?
What does ntpdc tell you?
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Re: ntp handling in 6.0

2005-11-14 Thread Dave

Hello,
   Thanks for your reply. My server box does indeed have ntpd running i 
confirmed it with ps -aux and it does have a pf firewall. The rules are:


# allow UDP requests to port 123 from firewall to exit ext_if_if
# in order to contact internet ntp servers
# (keep state on this connection)
pass out quick on $ext_if inet proto { tcp, udp} from $ext_if to any port 
123 keep state


# allow UDP requests to ports 67, 68, and 123 from # in order to perform 
dhcp and ntp queries on the firewall

# ( Keep state on this connection)
pass in quick on $int_if inet proto { tcp,udp } from $int_net to $int_if 
port { 67, 68, 123 } keep state


and ntpdc shows me a prompt.
Hope this helps.
Dave.


- Original Message - 
From: Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: ntp handling in 6.0



Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hello,
Has ntp handling changed in 6.0-RELEASE? I've been through the
handbook and /etc/defaults/rc.conf but haven't found the answer to
this. I've got a machine acting as an ntp server for a network. When i
run ntpdate -b IP from another machine i get the error No servers
suitable for synchronization found. Ntpd from these other boxes shows
the same. From the local ntp server to the ntp servers on the internet
works fine.
The local ntp server's configuration is as follows:

/etc/rc.conf
ntpdate_enable=YES
ntpdate_flags=-b servername
ntpd_enable=YES
ntpd_flags=-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid

ntp.conf
server servername prefer
server servername
servername
driftfile /etc/ntp.drift
restrict 192.168.9.0 mask 255.255.255.0 notrust nomodify notrap

and on client boxes:

/etc/rc.conf
ntpdate_enable=YES
ntpdate_flags=-b local ntp server IP
ntpd_enable=YES
ntpd_flags=-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid

/etc/ntp.conf
server local-ntp-server-ip prefer
driftfile /etc/ntp.drift


Is there an ntpd running?
Is there a firewall in the way?
What does ntpdc tell you? 


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ntp handling in 6.0

2005-11-12 Thread Dave

Hello,
   Has ntp handling changed in 6.0-RELEASE? I've been through the handbook 
and /etc/defaults/rc.conf but haven't found the answer to this. I've got a 
machine acting as an ntp server for a network. When i run ntpdate -b IP 
from another machine i get the error No servers suitable for 
synchronization found. Ntpd from these other boxes shows the same. From the 
local ntp server to the ntp servers on the internet works fine.

The local ntp server's configuration is as follows:

/etc/rc.conf
ntpdate_enable=YES
ntpdate_flags=-b servername
ntpd_enable=YES
ntpd_flags=-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid

ntp.conf
server servername prefer
server servername
servername
driftfile /etc/ntp.drift
restrict 192.168.9.0 mask 255.255.255.0 notrust nomodify notrap

and on client boxes:

/etc/rc.conf
ntpdate_enable=YES
ntpdate_flags=-b local ntp server IP
ntpd_enable=YES
ntpd_flags=-c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid

/etc/ntp.conf
server local-ntp-server-ip prefer
driftfile /etc/ntp.drift

   Thanks.
Dave.

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ntp problem :(

2005-09-15 Thread bannour souha

 Hello,

 I use a FreeBSD 5.3. I want to synchronize my 2
machines. I tried to connect to a ntp server, but I
couldn't. When I type this command ntpdate -v
ntp.imag.fr, I have the following message:
host found
 ntpdate (imag.imag.fr) : No route to host
 ntpdate (imag.imag.fr) : No route to host
 ntpdate (imag.imag.fr) : No route to host
 ntpdate (imag.imag.fr) : No route to host
 ...no server suitable for synchronization found

I tried also with adding the server name to ntp.conf
and typing this command /etc/rc.d/ntpdate restart,
but I have the same message.
 the ping to ntp.imag.fr responds very good

have you some idea? may be perhaps I have a proxy
, but I don't know what I must doing to synchronize my
machines.
 Can you help me please?

 Many thanks,
 Souha







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Re: ntp problem :(

2005-09-15 Thread Frank Bonnet

bannour souha wrote:

 Hello,

 I use a FreeBSD 5.3. I want to synchronize my 2
machines. I tried to connect to a ntp server, but I
couldn't. When I type this command ntpdate -v
ntp.imag.fr, I have the following message:
host found
 ntpdate (imag.imag.fr) : No route to host
 ntpdate (imag.imag.fr) : No route to host
 ntpdate (imag.imag.fr) : No route to host
 ntpdate (imag.imag.fr) : No route to host
 ...no server suitable for synchronization found

I tried also with adding the server name to ntp.conf
and typing this command /etc/rc.d/ntpdate restart,
but I have the same message.
 the ping to ntp.imag.fr responds very good

have you some idea? may be perhaps I have a proxy
, but I don't know what I must doing to synchronize my
machines.
 Can you help me please?

 Many thanks,
 Souha


the NTP server is not the cause of your problem
it seems that *your* machine hasen't a direct
access to the Internet. ( no route to host )
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Cordialement/Regards
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RE: ntp problem :(

2005-09-15 Thread Gayn Winters
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Bonnet
 Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 7:12 AM
 To: bannour souha
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: ntp problem :(
 
 
 bannour souha wrote:
   Hello,
  
   I use a FreeBSD 5.3. I want to synchronize my 2
  machines. I tried to connect to a ntp server, but I
  couldn't. When I type this command ntpdate -v
  ntp.imag.fr, I have the following message:
  host found
   ntpdate (imag.imag.fr) : No route to host
   ntpdate (imag.imag.fr) : No route to host
   ntpdate (imag.imag.fr) : No route to host
   ntpdate (imag.imag.fr) : No route to host
   ...no server suitable for synchronization found
  
  I tried also with adding the server name to ntp.conf
  and typing this command /etc/rc.d/ntpdate restart,
  but I have the same message.
   the ping to ntp.imag.fr responds very good
  
  have you some idea? may be perhaps I have a proxy
  , but I don't know what I must doing to synchronize my
  machines.
   Can you help me please?
  
   Many thanks,
   Souha
 
 the NTP server is not the cause of your problem
 it seems that *your* machine hasen't a direct
 access to the Internet. ( no route to host )
 --
 Cordialement/Regards
 Frank Bonnet

Hmm, pinging from here I see that ntp.imag.fr = imag.imag.fr =
129.80.30.1 so if you can ping that address then you have low level
connectivity.  One possibility is that something in the middle is
blocking port 37.  First do a traceroute and see what is in your route
to ntp.imag.fr.  Could one of the hops stop your ntpdate request?  E.g.
a firewall?  Are you sure that the time service is running?  Can you get
to it from another machine?  Does ntp.imag.fr require that you register
to use ntp? If so, their firewall would block you until you register.

-gayn


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Re: ntp problem :(

2005-09-15 Thread Noel Jones
 
 Hmm, pinging from here I see that ntp.imag.fr = imag.imag.fr =
 129.80.30.1 so if you can ping that address then you have low level
 connectivity.  One possibility is that something in the middle is

Apparently ntpdate is trying to use the IPv6 address that ntp.imag.fr publishes.

I don't know how to tell ntpdate to use only IPv4 addresses, so a
workaround is to use the IPv4 address directly.

ntpdate -v 129.88.30.1


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Timezone isn't setting to EST corectly, ntp doesn't help

2005-08-31 Thread Robert G.
I'm connected to a remote machine located in NJ and ran 
/usr/sbin/sysinstall and set the timezone to Eastern Time, but the 
clock is displaying 2:30PM or so when it is only 10:44AM here.


I tried ntp but that didn't work as well.  Does anyone have any idea 
what's wrong?


Thanks.

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Re: Timezone isn't setting to EST corectly, ntp doesn't help

2005-08-31 Thread Chuck Swiger

Robert G. wrote:
I'm connected to a remote machine located in NJ and ran 
/usr/sbin/sysinstall and set the timezone to Eastern Time, but the 
clock is displaying 2:30PM or so when it is only 10:44AM here.


I tried ntp but that didn't work as well.  Does anyone have any idea 
what's wrong?


Your BIOS clock is probably set to keeping time in the local timezone rather 
than in GMT.


ntpd won't correct a multi-hour offset without being nudged.  You can run 
ntpdate -b to step the clock by the four hours, or use date to set it to 
something close by hand, and then run ntpd from there.


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NTP: Driving Me Nuts

2005-06-12 Thread David Marshall
I'm having an awful time trying to get NTP working on some new servers.

Consider three machines:

jeffy: my home machine, runs 5.4 with a very sleek kernel, sits behind a router.

web1: one of the new servers, running 5.4-p2 with a kernel
configuration that *only* has options INET6 commented out:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] diff GENERIC WEB
25c25
 ident GENERIC
---
 ident WEB
32c32
 options   INET6   # IPv6 communications protocols
---
 #options  INET6   # IPv6 communications protocols


web2: another of the new servers, running 5.4 with GENERIC

All three have the same /etc/ntp.conf:

server sundial.columbia.edu
driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift

All, of course, have ntpd_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf

Here are the relevant lines from the log when I run /etc/rc.d/ntpd
start, after making sure it is stopped, of course.  When any of them
is stopped netstat -n | fgrep 123 yields no lines.

jeffy:

Jun 11 23:24:53 jeffy ntpd[90141]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Mon May  9 15:42:44 PDT 2005 (1)
Jun 11 23:24:53 jeffy ntpd[90141]: no IPv6 interfaces found

web1:

Jun 12 02:28:23 web1 ntpd[783]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Sun Jun 12 00:46:05 EDT 2005 (1)
Jun 12 02:28:23 web1 ntpd[783]: no IPv6 interfaces found
Jun 12 02:28:23 web1 ntpd[783]: bind() fd 6, family 2, port 123, addr
0.0.0.0, in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use

web2:

Jun 12 02:24:28 web2 ntpd[32792]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Sun May  8 06:01:21 UTC 2005 (1)
Jun 12 02:24:28 web2 ntpd[32792]: bind() fd 9, family 2, port 123,
addr 0.0.0.0, in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use


'ntpq -p' on jeffy returns a normal looking ntpq result.  'ntpq -p' on
either web1 or web2 eventually times out.  However, if I put a
restrict into their ntp.conf I get something like

 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==
 hickory.cc.colu .INIT.  16 u-   6400.0000.000 4000.00

that never changes, even after several hours.

I've read a lot of similar problem reports, but none of them ever seem
to have a definitive answer.

Can anyone help?  I'm really mystified.

The only thing I have left to try is that I have noticed that jeffy
has NO_INET6 = true set in /etc/make.conf, whereas web1 does not have
this.
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SOLVED: NTP: Driving Me Nuts

2005-06-12 Thread David Marshall
After many hours of trying many different things, I *finally* noticed
that an interface on the motherboard was marked as DHCP in
/etc/rc.conf.  It was getting an IP address of 0.0.0.0, which I guess
was causing all my problems.

So, it's got noting to do with ipv6 or any of the other dumb ideas I had.

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Date: Jun 11, 2005 11:37 PM
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I'm having an awful time trying to get NTP working on some new servers.

[snip]
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