upgrading portupgrade

2008-07-02 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hi there,

In order to upgrade portupgrade, is it enough to run make, make install 
 make clean?


I am not familiar with make but something tells me I won't be able to 
upgrade portupgrade by means of portupgrade ;)


Thanks!

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Re: httpd php dump

2008-07-02 Thread kalin m

sure.

./configure --prefix=/etc/httpd --enable-ssl --with-ssl=/usr/local/ssl 
--enable-rewrite --enable-so --enable-headers --enable-unique-id


like i said there is pretty much nothing in the error log for httpd. 
it's a brand new install. here is the whole file:


[Tue Jul 01 22:45:36 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured 
[hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:45:37 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.9 
OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations
[Tue Jul 01 22:46:19 2008] [error] [client x.x.x.x] File does not exist: 
/usr/web/favicon.ico

[Tue Jul 01 22:50:11 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Tue Jul 01 22:52:33 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured 
[hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:52:34 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.9 
OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations

[Tue Jul 01 22:55:29 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Tue Jul 01 22:55:35 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured 
[hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:55:36 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.9 
OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations

[Tue Jul 01 23:00:50 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
~
(just changed my ip there)

i suspect the apache so module..  but not really sure  executing 
php files on the cli is working fine to.. it must be the so... 

httpd and php are supposed to just work together.  
that's why core dump without any messages is a bit weired.




Odhiambo Washington wrote:

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:19 AM, kalin m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

there is no extensions.ini anywhere on this machine...  a brand new one.
httpd/logs/error_log has 6 lines in it. something about session cash (SSL)
not configured...

httpd runs fine without loading the php module



Would you like to provide details on how you compiled your apache
then? Did you use the ports to install?
What options did you compile with?
What is this that you have in the error_log that you don't want to reveal?


  

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Re: upgrading portupgrade

2008-07-02 Thread Fraser Tweedale
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 08:21:59AM +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 In order to upgrade portupgrade, is it enough to run make, make install 
  make clean?
 
 I am not familiar with make but something tells me I won't be able to 
 upgrade portupgrade by means of portupgrade ;)
 
 Thanks!
 
 -- 
 Zbigniew Szalbot
 www.LCWords.com

Upgrading portupgrade via portupgrade has always worked for me.

If you're paranoid though, you can always do:

cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade
make  make deinstall  make reinstall

...which is the essence of what portupgrade does anyway, minus all the 
extra stuff ;)

frase


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Re: upgrading portupgrade

2008-07-02 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hi there,

I am not familiar with make but something tells me I won't be able to 
upgrade portupgrade by means of portupgrade ;)



Upgrading portupgrade via portupgrade has always worked for me.


Thanks a lot! I should have tried it before writing to the list. It 
worked very well indeed!


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Re: upgrading portupgrade

2008-07-02 Thread Kevin Monceaux

Zbigniew,

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

In order to upgrade portupgrade, is it enough to run make, make install  
make clean?


If you already have portupgrade installed and tried the above technique I 
think you'd get an error at the end of make install saying the port is 
already installed.  You'd need to use either make reinstall or make 
deinstall followed by make reinstall.  I've been using portupgrade so long 
I forget which.


I am not familiar with make but something tells me I won't be able to upgrade 
portupgrade by means of portupgrade ;)


I've never had any trouble upgrading portupgrade via portupgrade.  Boy, 
that's almost a tongue twister.  :-)


If there's a change to portupgrade that would require a special upgrade 
procedure, it will be noted in /usr/ports/UPDATING.  Earlier today I 
switched my home PC from portupgrade to portupgrade-devel to try out some 
new features just added to the devel version.  All that was involved was:


portupgrade -fo ports-mgmt/portupgrade-devel portupgrade




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Execute the command when login

2008-07-02 Thread ronggui
I would like to execute xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc whenever login or start
the Xorg. I try to put the command to ~/.login_conf or ~/.xinit, but
it doesn't take effects.

What should I do? Thanks.

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Re: Execute the command when login

2008-07-02 Thread Tore Lund
ronggui wrote:
 I would like to execute xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc whenever login or start
 the Xorg. I try to put the command to ~/.login_conf or ~/.xinit, but
 it doesn't take effects.
 
 What should I do? Thanks.

How do you start X?  That command should normally be in ~/.xsession or
~/.xinitrc, all depending.

Personally I put the xmodmap command in ~/.xinitrc, and my ~/.xsession
is a symlink to ~/.xinitrc.  That way, xmodmap will be executed whether
I start X from the command line or use xdm.
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Re: Execute the command when login

2008-07-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, July 02, 2008 a las 03:11:45PM +0800, ronggui escribió:

 I would like to execute xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc whenever login or start
 the Xorg. I try to put the command to ~/.login_conf or ~/.xinit, but
 it doesn't take effects.
 
 What should I do? Thanks.

You could launch it from ~/.xinitrc for example as:

xmodmap.sh
exec startkde

and in xmodmap.sh you must take care that you set the $DISPLAY
accordingly, for example as 'setenv DISPLAY :0.0' and make sure that
you let first come up the Xorg and the desktop too, before launching
the xmodmap commands;

if you use KDE as desktop, like I do, it is more simple to just put your
script into the ~/.kde/Autostart/ directory;

matthias

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mysql log and newsyslog

2008-07-02 Thread Nicolas Letellier
Hello.

I have a problem with mysql logs and newsyslog. I archive mysql log
with this in my my.cnf:
log=/var/log/mysql

My log works fine.
However, when newsylog archives the log and create a new log file,
mysql doesn't log anymore anything.

See my newsyslog.conf:
/var/log/mysql  mysql:wheel 640  100   *@T23  Z

And after 23:00:
-rw-r-  1 mysql  wheel  62  1 jul 23:00 mysql
-rw-r-  1 mysql  wheel  213993  1 jul 23:00 mysql.0.gz

The old log is archived, the new is created, but mysql doestn't log
anymore anything.

Any idea to solve this problem? 

Thanks!

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eee pc asus

2008-07-02 Thread Robby Balona

Hi Guys


Anyone had any luck running freebsd on asus eee pc. I have tried and got 
it running without the network cause dont think i have enough knowledge 
to create  wifi/nic from the Athos driver.


Any Idea's


Regards

Robby
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Re: eee pc asus

2008-07-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, July 02, 2008 a las 10:41:36AM +0200, Robby Balona escribió:

 Hi Guys
 
 
 Anyone had any luck running freebsd on asus eee pc. I have tried and got 
 it running without the network cause dont think i have enough knowledge 
 to create  wifi/nic from the Athos driver.
 
 Any Idea's

See:
http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee
and my installation guide
http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC.txt

matthias
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Re: eee pc asus

2008-07-02 Thread Robby Balona

cool thanks!!!

Matthias Apitz wrote:

El día Wednesday, July 02, 2008 a las 10:41:36AM +0200, Robby Balona escribió:

  

Hi Guys


Anyone had any luck running freebsd on asus eee pc. I have tried and got 
it running without the network cause dont think i have enough knowledge 
to create  wifi/nic from the Athos driver.


Any Idea's



See:
http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee
and my installation guide
http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC.txt

matthias
  


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ZFS xattr attribute temporary off status?

2008-07-02 Thread Jeff Waddell
I've recently begun playing around with zfs on a freebsd7 build, as well as
a recent nightly build of FreeNAS (based on freebsd7) and have noticed
something peculiar that I haven't experienced with ZFS on either Solaris or
Mac OS X. For some reason, freebsd (on both systems) is setting the zfs
xattr (extended attributes) attribute temporarily off. Setting xattr=on
appears to work, but actually does nothing. The xattr attribute is also the
only ZFS attribute with a temporary setting, and no matter what I try, I
can't set it on. Why is this happening on freebsd, and is it fixable or an
issue with freebsd's zfs implementation (such as xattrs not being
implemented yet)? Thanks for your assistance!

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Re: Jail problem while starting

2008-07-02 Thread Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile)
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 01:02 +0500, Jo Pesko wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm using FreeBSD 7.0 version and expecting some problems with jail. 
 /etc/rc.d/jail script hangs when it try to map jail's interface to alias 
 address of my nic. Script successfully starting if i removing alias 

Hard to say.  Paste your config and rc.d/* output?

~BAS

 address from rc.conf(or manually via ifconfig). Any info will be 
 helpful. Thanks.
 
 Best Regards,
 Jo Pesko
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Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia?

2008-07-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

So call me a sociopath, but times are a bit scary.  I'd like to do the
2000's equivalent of the 1960's bomb shelter, and have my very own
snapshot in case of major local/regional internet disruption, etc.


wikipedia is just a pile of junk. everyone can put in it, and 
unfortunately do.


in EVERY article i watched in area i have knowlege there were bugs. in 
most - big nonsenses.


in others - probably too, i just don't have required knowledge to check 
it.




snapshot on DVDs or disk as a fundraiser?  I'd drop $300 for some sort
of officially licenced copy, I suspect there are other freaks that
would too...


wget should do. select an option to limit downloads to wikipedia, but with 
unlimited recursion, start from almost any place.

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Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia?

2008-07-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
ahead of who is winning American Idol. If it comes to the point the internet 
goes down for a long period of time, that $300 is better spent on a garden.


exactly :)


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Problem with samba 3.0.30 with NT4 domain

2008-07-02 Thread Barry Byrne
All:

In case anyone else has this problem.

Seems like there's a bug in samba 3.0.30 (and 3.0.29) that causes joining an
NT4 domain to fail. Looks like it will be fixed for 3.0.31 whenever that
comes:


http://www.nabble.com/unable-to-join-a-NT4-Domain-since-3.0.28a-td17678565.h
tml

After upgrading to 3.0.30 via portupgrade this morning, I got failures
connecting the server with a failed trust relationship. On removing and
attempting to rejoin the domain, I got:

Error in domain join verification (credential setup failed):
NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED 

Downgrading to 3.0.28a worked fine.

Barry

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Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-02 Thread RW
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 08:26:16 -0700
Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  However, I'll look up the diskd docs for
 squid, and see what that's all about.

I'm not sure that diskd is still preferred for FreeBSD. The three
cache types: ufs,aufs and diskd are all the same on disk. diskd is ufs
with extra processes to handle disk access, aufs uses threads instead.

The reason for using diskd was that earlier versions FreeBSD had poor
threading support, but good shared memory support. From what I've
read on the squid mailing list, aufs with libthr is being recommended
these days. libthr is the default on FreeBSD 7, you need a libmap.conf
entry on FreeBSD 6.
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RE: Problem with samba 3.0.30 with NT4 domain

2008-07-02 Thread Chris Edwards
I get this problem even when using version 3.0.28a.  I have no clue what is
causing it.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:37 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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Subject: Problem with samba 3.0.30 with NT4 domain

All:

In case anyone else has this problem.

Seems like there's a bug in samba 3.0.30 (and 3.0.29) that causes joining an
NT4 domain to fail. Looks like it will be fixed for 3.0.31 whenever that
comes:


http://www.nabble.com/unable-to-join-a-NT4-Domain-since-3.0.28a-td17678565.h
tml

After upgrading to 3.0.30 via portupgrade this morning, I got failures
connecting the server with a failed trust relationship. On removing and
attempting to rejoin the domain, I got:

Error in domain join verification (credential setup failed):
NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED 

Downgrading to 3.0.28a worked fine.

Barry

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Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar


I'm not sure that diskd is still preferred for FreeBSD. The three
cache types: ufs,aufs and diskd are all the same on disk. diskd is ufs
with extra processes to handle disk access, aufs uses threads instead.


i don't know what is preferred. i know what works.

only ufs and diskd is reliable, ufs is single threaded and blocking, 
diskd=one process for each spool dedicated just for disk I/O

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multi-platform dump and restore?

2008-07-02 Thread Mark B.
If I dump on amd64 should I be able to
extract files from the dump on i386?

If so, should it be possible to restore a
FreeBSD amd64 dump on OpenBSD i386?

Note there is ticket that may be related:

 bin/67723:

 restore(8) FreeBSD 5.x restore cannot handle
 other platforms/Linux(extfs)-dumps anymore

ref: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=67723cat=

I thought the dump file format was sacrosanct.
Has there been heresy here?

Thanks,

m

P.S. Please CC, I'm not subscribed.  Thanks.
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RE: Problem with samba 3.0.30 with NT4 domain

2008-07-02 Thread Barry Byrne

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 I get this problem even when using version 3.0.28a.  I have 
 no clue what is
 causing it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Byrne

 Seems like there's a bug in samba 3.0.30 (and 3.0.29) that 
 causes joining an
 NT4 domain to fail. Looks like it will be fixed for 3.0.31 
 whenever that
 comes:
   
 http://www.nabble.com/unable-to-join-a-NT4-Domain-since-3.0.28
 a-td17678565.h
 tml
 
 After upgrading to 3.0.30 via portupgrade this morning, I got failures
 connecting the server with a failed trust relationship. On 
 removing and
 attempting to rejoin the domain, I got:
 
   Error in domain join verification (credential setup failed):
 NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED 
 
 Downgrading to 3.0.28a worked fine.

Chris,

Just a guess really - but after reverting to 3.0.28a, I removed the domain
account for the server in question and then added it on the domain
controller before doing a 'net join' on the samba machine. After starting
samba again, all was well. 

In case it's of relevance - the samba server is 6.2 RELEASE-p12.

 - barry

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Re: multi-platform dump and restore?

2008-07-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 10:59:27AM -0400, Mark B. wrote:

 If I dump on amd64 should I be able to
 extract files from the dump on i386?
 
 If so, should it be possible to restore a
 FreeBSD amd64 dump on OpenBSD i386?
 
 Note there is ticket that may be related:
 
  bin/67723:
 
  restore(8) FreeBSD 5.x restore cannot handle
  other platforms/Linux(extfs)-dumps anymore
 
 ref: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=67723cat=
 
 I thought the dump file format was sacrosanct.
 Has there been heresy here?

I am not sure what the heresy is here, but
dump/restore can be sensitive to OS and OS version.
There are many that it cannot cross, but some it can.
The main thing is to check it before depending on it.

jerry




 
 Thanks,
 
 m
 
 P.S. Please CC, I'm not subscribed.  Thanks.
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Re: multi-platform dump and restore?

2008-07-02 Thread Roland Smith
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 10:59:27AM -0400, Mark B. wrote:
 If I dump on amd64 should I be able to
 extract files from the dump on i386?

Yes.
 
 If so, should it be possible to restore a
 FreeBSD amd64 dump on OpenBSD i386?

Probably. OpenBSD 4.2 supports UFS2.

 Note there is ticket that may be related:
 
  bin/67723:
 
  restore(8) FreeBSD 5.x restore cannot handle
  other platforms/Linux(extfs)-dumps anymore
 
 ref: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=67723cat=

This should be closed unless it is still reproducable on 6.x or 7.x. The
release mentioned is ancient.

 I thought the dump file format was sacrosanct.
 Has there been heresy here?

The BSDs all use variants of UFS, and dump/restore understand UFS1  2.
The EXT2FS in use on Linux is a different animal altogether. I'm
surprised that it ever worked. 

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7.0-release / systat / 3GB

2008-07-02 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hello,

It seems that when I check bandwidth with systat -ifstat, I can see 
something along these lines:


Traffic   PeakTotal
in 32.854 KB/s 35.591 KB/s1.341 GB
out39.760 KB/s130.318 KB/s  430.087 MB

I am a bit curious though why once the outgoing bandwidth exceeds (more 
or less) 3GB, the Total counter gets reset and starts counting from scratch.


Is it because of the network interface?

Jun 20 14:17:49 relay kernel: re0: RealTek 8168/8111B PCIe Gigabit 
Ethernet port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xf100-0xf1000fff irq 16 at device 
0.0 on pci3


If it matters, 'uname -ris' says
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p2 RELAY

Many thanks!

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sendmail on server with ip aliases

2008-07-02 Thread D W
Hello,

Having a problem with sendmail on some of my servers supporting several
virtual apache hosts. Because these servers have 5-10 ip aliases bound, it
sometimes trips up sendmail when sending outbound mail to my smarthost. All
servers are configured to use the same smarthost. But on one of the hosts,
sendmail will send out as the one of the virtual hosts instead of the main
host, which is what I need.

Example: webhost01.webdomain.com is the host.
Five ip aliases for apache virtual servers:
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: httpd php dump

2008-07-02 Thread kalin m

i'd be assuming than that i'd need to build an older apache.
this is probably a stupid question but is there anybody out there that 
is using apache 2.2.9 + php 5.2.6 (as DSO) on freebsd 7 amd64 (multi 
processor) without problems?


thanks...



kalin m wrote:

sure.

./configure --prefix=/etc/httpd --enable-ssl --with-ssl=/usr/local/ssl 
--enable-rewrite --enable-so --enable-headers --enable-unique-id


like i said there is pretty much nothing in the error log for httpd. 
it's a brand new install. here is the whole file:


[Tue Jul 01 22:45:36 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not 
configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:45:37 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.9 
OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations
[Tue Jul 01 22:46:19 2008] [error] [client x.x.x.x] File does not 
exist: /usr/web/favicon.ico

[Tue Jul 01 22:50:11 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Tue Jul 01 22:52:33 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not 
configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:52:34 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.9 
OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations

[Tue Jul 01 22:55:29 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Tue Jul 01 22:55:35 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not 
configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:55:36 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.9 
OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations

[Tue Jul 01 23:00:50 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
~
(just changed my ip there)

i suspect the apache so module..  but not really sure  
executing php files on the cli is working fine to.. it must be the so... 

httpd and php are supposed to just work together.  
that's why core dump without any messages is a bit weired.




Odhiambo Washington wrote:

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:19 AM, kalin m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

there is no extensions.ini anywhere on this machine...  a brand new one.
httpd/logs/error_log has 6 lines in it. something about session cash (SSL)
not configured...

httpd runs fine without loading the php module



Would you like to provide details on how you compiled your apache
then? Did you use the ports to install?
What options did you compile with?
What is this that you have in the error_log that you don't want to reveal?


  

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Re: multi-platform dump and restore?

2008-07-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

If I dump on amd64 should I be able to
extract files from the dump on i386?


i'm almost sure yes but please check



If so, should it be possible to restore a
FreeBSD amd64 dump on OpenBSD i386?


probably not.
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Re: multi-platform dump and restore?

2008-07-02 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 11:35:30AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 10:59:27AM -0400, Mark B. wrote:
 
  If I dump on amd64 should I be able to
  extract files from the dump on i386?
  
  If so, should it be possible to restore a
  FreeBSD amd64 dump on OpenBSD i386?
  
  Note there is ticket that may be related:
  
   bin/67723:
  
   restore(8) FreeBSD 5.x restore cannot handle
   other platforms/Linux(extfs)-dumps anymore
  
  ref: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=67723cat=
  
  I thought the dump file format was sacrosanct.
  Has there been heresy here?
 
 I am not sure what the heresy is here, but
 dump/restore can be sensitive to OS and OS version.
 There are many that it cannot cross, but some it can.
 The main thing is to check it before depending on it.

I should add for clarity.
So, the conflict would not be the different hardware
but differences in OS and filesystem versions.  Mostly
I have been able to dump on one version of BSD and
restore on another, apparently because the filesystems
have been sufficiently similar.   But, as I said before,
Check it before you depend on it.

jerry


 
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  Thanks,
  
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  P.S. Please CC, I'm not subscribed.  Thanks.
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sendmail on server with ip aliases and virtual hosts

2008-07-02 Thread D W
Hello,

Having a problem with sendmail on some of my servers supporting several
virtual apache hosts. Because these servers have 5-10 ip aliases bound, it
sometimes trips up sendmail when sending outbound mail to my smarthost. All
servers are configured to use the same smarthost. But on one of the hosts,
sendmail will send out as the one of the virtual hosts instead of the main
host, which is what I need.

Example:

webhost01.webdomain.com (10.10.0.1) is the main host.
mail01.webdomain.com (10.10.10.2) is the smarthost.

Five ip aliases for apache virtual servers:
www.siteA.com (10.10.20.1)
www.siteB.com (10.10.20.2)
www.siteC.com (10.10.20.3)
www.siteD.com (10.10.20.4)
www.siteE.com (10.10.20.5)

But when one I try to:
$ telnet mail01.webdomain.com 25

and watch the maillog on the smarthost, it tells me the connection is coming
from www.siteA.com (or one of the other virtual ip aliases/hosts) instead of
the main host, webhost01.webdomian.com.

This will cause relaying denied failures on the smarthost, unless I go
into the local-host-names and account for every virtual host and add it.

The other puzzling thing is that I have 9 other main hosts with many
virtual hosts, and they all seem to be working the way I expect; ie.,
outbound mail is coming from the main host name/ip instead of one of the
aliases. It's just this webhost01 that is messed up I can't figure out why.
The other thing is that if I destroy an alias, sendmail will use another
aliases, then if I put the destroyed virtual alias back, it may or may not
use it again when sending email.

How do I get sendmail to just send *everything* as from the main host and
connect on the main ip address instead of one of the aliases?

I have in /etc/mail/webhost01.webdomain.com.mc:

OSTYPE(freebsd6)
DOMAIN(generic)
FEATURE(access_db, `hash -o -TTMPF /etc/mail/access')
FEATURE(blacklist_recipients)
FEATURE(local_lmtp)
FEATURE(mailertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable')
FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable')
FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)
FEATURE(`genericstable')
GENERICS_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/generics-domains')
MASQUERADE_AS(`webhost01.webdomain.com')
define(`confDOMAIN_NAME', `webhost01.webdomain.com')
define(`SMART_HOST', `mail01.webdomain.com')

and in generics-domains:
webhost01.webdomain.com


Thanks for any help.
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Re: Too Much Context Switching?

2008-07-02 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Monday 30 June 2008, cpghost wrote:

 You need to run ZEO if you want to make use of multiple CPUs in Zope.
 Here's a small HOWTO. It's for gentoo, but easily adaptable to
 FreeBSD:

 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ZEO/Zope_and_Plone

 Good luck optimizing the Beast! ;-)

This is *so* critically important that I can't overstress it.  You *have* to 
use ZEO if you're running a busy Zope site.  

On our dual P4-Xeon system, I run 8 Zope instances and use Apache to spread 
the load across 7 of them (reserving the 8th for admin use) like so:
I 
$ cat /usr/local/etc/apache22/zope.txt
zeoclients  9080|10080|11080|12080|13080|14080|15080
 
$ cat mydomain.conf
[...]
# Load-balance the Zope servers
RewriteMap zope rnd:/usr/local/etc/apache22/zope.txt
RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://web2.daycos.com:
${zope:zeoclients}/VirtualHostBase/http/web2.xrsnet.com:80/XRSnet/VirtualHostRoot/$1
 
[P]

On each new connection, Apache picks a random port from the list defined in 
zope.txt and passes the connection to that Zope process.
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Re: multi-platform dump and restore?

2008-07-02 Thread Mark B.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Wojciech Puchar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I dump on amd64 should I be able to
 extract files from the dump on i386?

 i'm almost sure yes but please check


I did and it does.


 If so, should it be possible to restore a
 FreeBSD amd64 dump on OpenBSD i386?

 probably not.


You are correct.

# gunzip -c var_www_log.1214712054.1.dmp.gz | restore -i -f -
. is not on the tape
Root directory is not on tape
abort? [yn] y
dump core? [yn] n
# uname -a
OpenBSD dev.example.com 4.2 GENERIC#375 i386

How did you guess?

m
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FB7.0 - ifconfig clone error - SIOCIFCREATE2: Invalid argument

2008-07-02 Thread Ross
Hi there,

I've been playing with a new FB7.0 setup (using the standard iso
distribution), and trying to create some vlans by doing cloning via
the rc.conf cloned_interfaces command - but that fails.  (I'm using
bce interfaces on a HP bl760c blade, if that makes any difference)

Doing manual testing of ifconfig xyz0 create causes the error
ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Invalid argument error to come up and the
interface then doesn't get created.

Has anyone gotten this error at all, and how did you get it resolved?

My digging further shows that a patch was committed to
src/sys/net/if_clone.c (rev 1.11) which adds a new argument for
parameter data to the if_clone_create() function.

But it looks like src/sys/net/if.c has not been updated to provide
this new parameter data to the if_clone_create function call, thereby
failing the call, and not setting the interface up.

Any help or pointing in the right direction would be appreciated!

Thanks,
  Ross.

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Re: FB7.0 - ifconfig clone error - SIOCIFCREATE2: Invalid argument

2008-07-02 Thread Ross

R My digging further shows that a patch was committed to
R src/sys/net/if_clone.c (rev 1.11) which adds a new argument for
R parameter data to the if_clone_create() function.

Ignore my further digging (I blame the holidays), I was looking at
if_clone_createif - not if_clone_create, which has a different number
of parameters.  The function if_clone_create checks out fine.

The issue looks to be something within /src/sbin/ifconfig/ifclone.c
and the ioctl setup of the interface.  sigh


R.


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Re: multi-platform dump and restore?

2008-07-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

   dump core? [yn] n
   # uname -a
   OpenBSD dev.example.com 4.2 GENERIC#375 i386

How did you guess?

actually second was a guess. first was natural, as amd64 and i386 are both 
little endian, intlong are same sized under gcc, and memory pointers are 
not stored in dump files.


second - because dump was never intended to be portable, nobody cares 
about it.

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Re: multi-platform dump and restore?

2008-07-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar




I did and it does.


you may try to compile OpenBSD restore from sources under FreeBSD and use 
it.


compared to dump, restore does not do anything filesystem specific, just 
reads input and make files.



if any - there should not be many fixes needed to make it compile.
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Re: 7.0-release / systat / 3GB

2008-07-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar


I am a bit curious though why once the outgoing bandwidth exceeds (more or 
less) 3GB, the Total counter gets reset and starts counting from scratch.


isn't it 4GB - because of 32-bit unsigned counter?



Is it because of the network interface?

Jun 20 14:17:49 relay kernel: re0: RealTek 8168/8111B PCIe Gigabit Ethernet 
port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xf100-0xf1000fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3


If it matters, 'uname -ris' says
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p2 RELAY

Many thanks!

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Re: [freebsd-questions] Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia?

2008-07-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 10:21:22PM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
  
   Actually . . . if things get that bad, you're going to need some
   firepower to protect your garden (and everything else you don't want
   taken from you by force).  To properly protect a garden, you'd need to
   make it a community farm, with community members who have and will use
   firearms to protect it (and your Wikipedia mirror).
  
  And where better to get knowledge on constructing firepower (and
  gardening for that matter) than wikipedia ;)  All part of my
  integrated plan...did I mention we are going to occupy our local
  library as well?
 
   Guys, you seem to be jumping the gun a bit. Theres plenty
 of time until 03:14:07 UTC on Tuesday, January 19, 2038.
 
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem)

Bah.  That's basically a solved problem.

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Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia?

2008-07-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 10:36:22PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:
 
 We're advising our clients to stock up on canned goods and shotguns -
 Brain Gremlin

Seriously?  What kind of business are you in that makes that an
appropriate bit of advice?

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Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia?

2008-07-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 02:37:20PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 So call me a sociopath, but times are a bit scary.  I'd like to do the
 2000's equivalent of the 1960's bomb shelter, and have my very own
 snapshot in case of major local/regional internet disruption, etc.
 
 wikipedia is just a pile of junk. everyone can put in it, and 
 unfortunately do.

Meanwhile, in print encyclopedias, I see that with restricted writing
access and strict editing processes there are typically systemic biases
and subtler mistakes that are much easier to overlook -- and the mistakes
not only persist until the next edition, but often exist for decades,
whereas finding a mistake in Wikipedia is fixable within five minutes.


 
 in EVERY article i watched in area i have knowlege there were bugs. in 
 most - big nonsenses.

The key is that an encyclopedia should never be the *end* of your
research.  It's basically just a place to look for key terms to research
elsewhere, and to get a general overview of some common takes on various
subjects.  That's as true of Wikipedia as it is of any other
encyclopedia.


 
 snapshot on DVDs or disk as a fundraiser?  I'd drop $300 for some sort
 of officially licenced copy, I suspect there are other freaks that
 would too...
 
 wget should do. select an option to limit downloads to wikipedia, but with 
 unlimited recursion, start from almost any place.

Bad idea.  Just get one of the periodic database dumps.  Using recursive
wget downloads is a good way to consume mass bandwidth and get your IP
banned from accessing it.  Please be aware of others' needs, and
courteous in your treatment of those needs.

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Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia?

2008-07-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar


wikipedia is just a pile of junk. everyone can put in it, and
unfortunately do.


Meanwhile, in print encyclopedias, I see that with restricted writing
access and strict editing processes there are typically systemic biases
and subtler mistakes that are much easier to overlook -- and the mistakes
not only persist until the next edition, but often exist for decades,
whereas finding a mistake in Wikipedia is fixable within five minutes.


and 3 others are added.


The key is that an encyclopedia should never be the *end* of your
research.  It's basically just a place to look for key terms to research


actually what i do - to get the first glance on subject, THEN checking 
more precisely.


but quite often it's crap even at the first glance
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Re: FB7.0 - ifconfig clone error - SIOCIFCREATE2: Invalid argument

2008-07-02 Thread Vince Hoffman

Ross wrote:

Hi there,

I've been playing with a new FB7.0 setup (using the standard iso
distribution), and trying to create some vlans by doing cloning via
the rc.conf cloned_interfaces command - but that fails.  (I'm using
bce interfaces on a HP bl760c blade, if that makes any difference)

Doing manual testing of ifconfig xyz0 create causes the error
ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Invalid argument error to come up and the
interface then doesn't get created.


what command are you using exactly? it certainly works here.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(20:30:15 ~) 0 # ifconfig em1.5
ifconfig: interface em1.5 does not exist
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(20:30:20 ~) 0 # ifconfig em1.5 create
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(20:30:25 ~) 0 # ifconfig em1.5
em1.5: flags=8842BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=3RXCSUM,TXCSUM
ether 00:07:e9:17:db:c9
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
vlan: 5 parent interface: em1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(20:30:26 ~) 0 # ifconfig em1.5 destroy

Or

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(20:30:55 ~) 0 # ifconfig bge0.5 create
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(20:31:04 ~) 0 # ifconfig bge0.5
bge0.5: flags=8842BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=3RXCSUM,TXCSUM
ether 00:e0:81:2d:a3:16
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
vlan: 5 parent interface: bge0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(20:31:16 ~) 0 # ifconfig bge0.5 destroy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(20:31:20 ~) 0 #

Vince


Has anyone gotten this error at all, and how did you get it resolved?

My digging further shows that a patch was committed to
src/sys/net/if_clone.c (rev 1.11) which adds a new argument for
parameter data to the if_clone_create() function.

But it looks like src/sys/net/if.c has not been updated to provide
this new parameter data to the if_clone_create function call, thereby
failing the call, and not setting the interface up.

Any help or pointing in the right direction would be appreciated!

Thanks,
  Ross.



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Re[2]: FB7.0 - ifconfig clone error - SIOCIFCREATE2: Invalid argument

2008-07-02 Thread Ross

VH what command are you using exactly? it certainly works here.

The standard ones!  Which has gotten me confused greatly.

Using yours as an example:
-=
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ifconfig bce0.5 create
ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Invalid argument
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#

and playing a bit:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ifconfig bce0.5 create vlandev bce0
ifconfig: must specify a tag for vlan create
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ifconfig bce0.5 create vlandev bce0 vlan 5
ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Invalid argument
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ifconfig bce0
bce0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500

options=1bbRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4
ether 00:1e:0b:c7:e1:d0
inet w.x.y.z netmask 0xff00 broadcast w.x.y.z
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseSX full-duplex)
status: active
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#

-=

I'm wondering if it's because of the bce driver or something along
those lines, and ioctl isn't able to pick up the root device or
something.

The annoying part is that these are new servers/network cards on these
boxes, so I don't have an equivalent FB6.x setup to test against.
(Other boxes running 6.x are working just fine).


R.

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re0: PHY write failed - RTL8110SB problem

2008-07-02 Thread Nejc Škoberne

Hello,

my network card is failing - dmesg is full of this:

re0: PHY write failed
re0: reset never completed!
re0: reset never completed!
re0: PHY write failed
re0: reset never completed!
re0: PHY write failed
re0: link state changed to DOWN
re0: link state changed to DOWN
re0: reset never completed!
re0: link state changed to DOWN
re0: link state changed to DOWN

It can work nicely for days (although the server is not yet in production, so 
there
is little to no traffic) and then starts failing. What could be the problem?

It's FreeBSD 7.0 with this card:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:4:1:0: class=0x02 card=0x816910ec chip=0x816910ec 
rev=0x10 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'RTL8110SB Single-Chip Gigabit LOM Ethernet Controller'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet

ifconfig re0:

re0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=399bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4
ether 00:0e:2e:cc:1e:c9
inet 192.168.2.10 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX full-duplex)
status: active

The hardware is a PC with Asus P5K-SE motherboard.

Thanks,
Nejc
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Re: sendmail on server with ip aliases and virtual hosts

2008-07-02 Thread Derek Ragona

At 11:26 AM 7/2/2008, D W wrote:

Hello,

Having a problem with sendmail on some of my servers supporting several
virtual apache hosts. Because these servers have 5-10 ip aliases bound, it
sometimes trips up sendmail when sending outbound mail to my smarthost. All
servers are configured to use the same smarthost. But on one of the hosts,
sendmail will send out as the one of the virtual hosts instead of the main
host, which is what I need.

Example:

webhost01.webdomain.com (10.10.0.1) is the main host.
mail01.webdomain.com (10.10.10.2) is the smarthost.

Five ip aliases for apache virtual servers:
www.siteA.com (10.10.20.1)
www.siteB.com (10.10.20.2)
www.siteC.com (10.10.20.3)
www.siteD.com (10.10.20.4)
www.siteE.com (10.10.20.5)

But when one I try to:
$ telnet mail01.webdomain.com 25

and watch the maillog on the smarthost, it tells me the connection is coming
from www.siteA.com (or one of the other virtual ip aliases/hosts) instead of
the main host, webhost01.webdomian.com.

This will cause relaying denied failures on the smarthost, unless I go
into the local-host-names and account for every virtual host and add it.

The other puzzling thing is that I have 9 other main hosts with many
virtual hosts, and they all seem to be working the way I expect; ie.,
outbound mail is coming from the main host name/ip instead of one of the
aliases. It's just this webhost01 that is messed up I can't figure out why.
The other thing is that if I destroy an alias, sendmail will use another
aliases, then if I put the destroyed virtual alias back, it may or may not
use it again when sending email.

How do I get sendmail to just send *everything* as from the main host and
connect on the main ip address instead of one of the aliases?

I have in /etc/mail/webhost01.webdomain.com.mc:

OSTYPE(freebsd6)
DOMAIN(generic)
FEATURE(access_db, `hash -o -TTMPF /etc/mail/access')
FEATURE(blacklist_recipients)
FEATURE(local_lmtp)
FEATURE(mailertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable')
FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable')
FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)
FEATURE(`genericstable')
GENERICS_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/generics-domains')
MASQUERADE_AS(`webhost01.webdomain.com')
define(`confDOMAIN_NAME', `webhost01.webdomain.com')
define(`SMART_HOST', `mail01.webdomain.com')

and in generics-domains:
webhost01.webdomain.com


Thanks for any help.


I would suggest you check both your forward and reverse DNS's for all these 
domains.  Sendmail will use the DNS listings.


Are your virtual apache server's sending the emails from webpages?  If so, 
check your setup on those virtual servers that you are specifying the from 
address including the correct domain.


-Derek

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Re[2]: FB7.0 - ifconfig clone error - SIOCIFCREATE2: Invalid argument

2008-07-02 Thread Ross

 Doing manual testing of ifconfig xyz0 create causes the error
 ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Invalid argument error to come up and the
 interface then doesn't get created.

VH what command are you using exactly? it certainly works here.

After enough tinkering around, I've found the issue.

Looks like I need to issue a ifconfig bce0 -vlanhwtag command to the
interface before issuing the vlan ifconfig bce0.10 create command.
Surprisingly, it looks like I can issue a ifconfig bce0 vlanhwtag
command afterwards, and everything is good.

Very weird.  But I'm happy I found a work around for the time being.

R.

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RT2790 Wireless miniCard - ral not working on Eee Box

2008-07-02 Thread Alexander Sack
Hi Everybody:

I cc'ed questions since if this turns out NOT be a driver related
issue then hopefully someone can tell me what's going on.  I have a
Asus Eee Box PC with Intel Atom NS270 1.6Ghz model B202.  I've
installed FreeBSD 7.0-i386-RELEASE and currently going to try
7.0-i386-STABLE on it. I've done a lot of Googling and Nabbling to no
avail! :D!

My first issue is the onboard wireless card, PCI id: 1814:0781: RT2790
Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R miniCard, does not work.  It looks like its a
ral derivative which the driver doesn't recognize (from the driver
source as well as man, looks like it doesn't even support this family
of chipset).

Is there a driver for this chipset?  If not, why not?  :D!

Thanks!

-aps
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Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia?

2008-07-02 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 09:12:33PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 
 wikipedia is just a pile of junk. everyone can put in it, and
 unfortunately do.
 
 Meanwhile, in print encyclopedias, I see that with restricted writing
 access and strict editing processes there are typically systemic biases
 and subtler mistakes that are much easier to overlook -- and the mistakes
 not only persist until the next edition, but often exist for decades,
 whereas finding a mistake in Wikipedia is fixable within five minutes.
 
 and 3 others are added.
 
 The key is that an encyclopedia should never be the *end* of your
 research.  It's basically just a place to look for key terms to research
 
 actually what i do - to get the first glance on subject, THEN checking 
 more precisely.
 
 but quite often it's crap even at the first glance

I'll add my dime's worth, given the years of pure research I've done in
recent years. wiki-anything is usually *not* my first choice; but if 
there
are citations that i can find on-line or at my local library in a wiki 
article, I'll use them.

point of fact: i just spent some 45 minutes tracking down an obscure
quote.  the citation (from the Feb. 1981 ACM) was in a German PDF file.
no help from wikipedia, but an example of how much effort it takes to 
get
things right.  (or as close-to right as possible.)

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Re: Configuring an older server for speed...

2008-07-02 Thread RW
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:15:58 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  I'm not sure that diskd is still preferred for FreeBSD. 
 
 i don't know what is preferred. i know what works.
 
 only ufs and diskd is reliable,

The squid developers recommend aufs:

http://www.squid-cache.org/mail-archive/squid-users/200709/0150.html

Most people seem to regard it as stable.
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Upgrade and change distro?

2008-07-02 Thread Paul Schmehl
I have a dual core Intel server running 6.1 RELEASE i386.  I want to 
update it to 7.0 RELEASE.  Can I also switch to the AMD release at the 
same time?  (It's my understanding that all dual core processors should be 
running AMD not i386.)


If so, do I simply point to the GENERIC kernconf under AMD?  Any gotchas?

Paul Schmehl
If it isn't already obvious,
my opinions are my own and not
those of my employer.


Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia?

2008-07-02 Thread Steve Franks
You know, the Wikipedia is crap argument is becoming tiresome.  Maybe
they should have picked a different name.  It is not a research tool.
However, I use it daily when someone mentions Microsoft's latest TLA,
or my daughter wants to see a picture of a blue whale, or I forget
what port subversion needs open in my firewall, or the webpage 
market cap for some obscure company.  I consider it to be like the
browseable companion to google search.  Instead of 100,000 useless
references and 'buy it now' links, I can find out a layman's
introduction to nearly anything in one click.  I fail to see how this
makes people so angry.  Several of my best friends are english
teachers, and they teach all their students 'use wiki, but don't cite
it'.  This seems to be the defacto social/professional rule for wiki
usage, at least in the western USA.  I fail to see where the moral
panic is.  I know it's another slippery argument, but I think there's
an interesting observation to be made that the majority of my google
searches lately have been putting the wikipedia article for a given
topic in the top 5 links.  Or maybe I'm just the American Idol poster
child.  It's a social product, not a professional one.  We have those
already.

Steve

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 09:12:33PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 
 wikipedia is just a pile of junk. everyone can put in it, and
 unfortunately do.
 
 Meanwhile, in print encyclopedias, I see that with restricted writing
 access and strict editing processes there are typically systemic biases
 and subtler mistakes that are much easier to overlook -- and the mistakes
 not only persist until the next edition, but often exist for decades,
 whereas finding a mistake in Wikipedia is fixable within five minutes.

 and 3 others are added.

 The key is that an encyclopedia should never be the *end* of your
 research.  It's basically just a place to look for key terms to research

 actually what i do - to get the first glance on subject, THEN checking
 more precisely.

 but quite often it's crap even at the first glance

I'll add my dime's worth, given the years of pure research I've done in
recent years. wiki-anything is usually *not* my first choice; but if 
 there
are citations that i can find on-line or at my local library in a wiki
article, I'll use them.

point of fact: i just spent some 45 minutes tracking down an obscure
quote.  the citation (from the Feb. 1981 ACM) was in a German PDF file.
no help from wikipedia, but an example of how much effort it takes to 
 get
things right.  (or as close-to right as possible.)

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RE: Upgrade and change distro?

2008-07-02 Thread Sean Cavanaugh


 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:55:58 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: 
 Subject: Upgrade and change distro?
 
 I have a dual core Intel server running 6.1 RELEASE i386.  I want to 
 update it to 7.0 RELEASE.  Can I also switch to the AMD release at the 
 same time?  (It's my understanding that all dual core processors should be 
 running AMD not i386.)
 
 If so, do I simply point to the GENERIC kernconf under AMD?  Any gotchas?
 
 Paul Schmehl
 If it isn't already obvious,
 my opinions are my own and not
 those of my employer.

AMD64 is for 64-bit chips from AMD and Intel. whether it is multi-core is 
beside.
run i386 still if you want/need 32-bit operating system. there are some 
features and programs that will NOT work with AMD64.

-Sean
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RE: Upgrade and change distro?

2008-07-02 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On July 2, 2008 5:51:06 PM -0400 Sean Cavanaugh 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:55:58 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC:
Subject: Upgrade and change distro?

I have a dual core Intel server running 6.1 RELEASE i386.  I want to
update it to 7.0 RELEASE.  Can I also switch to the AMD release at the
same time?  (It's my understanding that all dual core processors should
be  running AMD not i386.)

If so, do I simply point to the GENERIC kernconf under AMD?  Any
gotchas?


AMD64 is for 64-bit chips from AMD and Intel. whether it is multi-core
is beside. run i386 still if you want/need 32-bit operating system.
there are some features and programs that will NOT work with AMD64.



Thanks, Sean.  Maybe I'll understand FreeBSD some day.  :-)

Will I need to rebuild all my ports after compiling the kernel and world?

Paul Schmehl
If it isn't already obvious,
my opinions are my own and not
those of my employer.


wordpress package install failure

2008-07-02 Thread Len Conrad


When I try to install wordpress:

pkg_add 
ftp://ftp4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/All/wordpress-2.5.1,1.tbz


Fetching 
ftp://ftp4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/All/wordpress-2.5.1,1.tbz... 
Done.


Fetching 
ftp://ftp4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/All/mysql-client-5.0.51a.tbz... 
Done.


pkg_add: package 'mysql-client-5.0.51a' conflicts with mysql-client-5.1.22

pkg_add: please use pkg_delete first to remove conflicting package(s) 
or -f to force installation


pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'mysql-client-5.0.51a' failed!

Fetching 
ftp://ftp4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/All/php5-mysql-5.2.6.tbz... 
Done.


pkg_add: could not find package mysql-client-5.0.51a !

pkg_add: pkg_add of dependency 'php5-mysql-5.2.6' failed!

Of course, downgrading mysql-client-5.0.51a won't work because you 
have to downgrade the server, and then who knows where that ball of 
string will lead.


I'd really like the follow the advice of using the packages, but the 
above happens frequently.


Suggestions about how to fix the above?

Thanks,
Len


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New user with a possible ZFS problem

2008-07-02 Thread Kevin Monceaux

FreeBSD Fans,

Okay, I'm not exactly a new user.  I've been running FreeBSD for about a 
year or so on my web/mail server, which I only have remote access to. 
It's currently running 6.3.


Saturday I finally found one of those round tuits and switched my home 
PC from Debian to FreeBSD.  I've been a Linux user since the 1.xx Linux 
kernel days, so it took quite a bit of convincing myself to make the 
switch.  But other than needing to unlearn some bad habits I got into 
thanks to Linux, I'm feeling right at home.


After getting a taste of ZFS while trying out OpenSolaris Indiana under 
VMware, I decided to give FreeBSD's ZFS implementation a try.  Actually 
before installing FreeBSD I tried a native OpenSolaris Indiana install 
briefly, but ended up deciding it's new package system wasn't quite ready 
for prime time yet.


Do I really need ZFS?  Not really.  But after getting a taste of ZFS it'd 
be hard to go back to regular file systems.


I've had a couple of problems and I'm not sure if there ZFS related or 
not.


When I switched my PC to FreeBSD this past Saturday I went by the article 
located at:


http://www.ish.com.au/solutions/articles/freebsdzfs

to set up ZFS.  I followed the article's loader.conf tweaks advice and 
added:


vm.kmem_size_max=512M
vm.kmem_size=512M
vfs.zfs.zil_disable=1

to /boot/loader.conf.

All went well at first, then eventually I experienced my first hang.  If I 
remember correctly, I had an mp3 playing via mplayer and was moving a 
large file from one ZFS partition to another.  Both the mp3 player and 
mv command appeared to hang.  Checking top one of the processes was in a 
zfs:lo state and the other was, I think, in a zfs:b state, or something 
similar.  I forget which was which.  Eventually they recovered. 
Eventually I encountered a similar hang with similar symptoms.  The second 
hang might have eventually recovered on it's own but I finally resorted to 
hitting the power switch.  After a little Googling on the process states I 
tried adding:


vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=1

to /boot/loader.conf.  After doing so I gave ZFS a bit of a workout.  I 
shuffled some large files around, etc., and all appeared well.


When I went to bed this morning, I had to work graveyards last night, I 
had an openoffice.org build running, which had been running for eight 
hours or so.  Okay, although I usually install everything from ports maybe 
I should go with the binary package for OpenOffice.  Anyway, when I got up 
this afternoon my PC was completely locked up.  I had no video signal, 
caps lock and num lock wouldn't change the keyboard LEDs, etc.  I finally 
resorted to hitting the power button.


After getting things back up, I freebsd-updated to 7.0-RELEASE-p2, after 
some Googling and commenting out the chflag calls in freebsd-update.  I 
know, I should have checked for updates right after I finished installing 
FreeBSD.


Anyway, does the above hangs all sound like they're ZFS related.  Are 
there any other settings I should try?  Is there a FreeBSD ZFS mailing 
list?  I searched but couldn't find one.





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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: httpd php dump

2008-07-02 Thread kalin m

this is getting to ridiculous levels

if i build php only with --with-apxs2=/etc/httpd/bin/apxs then apache 
starts and httpd/php works ok. anything else added to the configuration 
- and i tried different stuff - ( --with-mysql=/usr/local/mysql; 
--with-curl; --with-openssl=/usr) - alone or in combination builds fine 
but at the time of apache startup it dumps core...


apparently the httpd - currently 2.2.9 - configure doesn't matter. so 
right now the httpd is configured - as intended - with:
./configure --prefix=/etc/httpd --enable-ssl --with-ssl=/usr/local/ssl 
--enable-rewrite --enable-so --enable-headers --enable-unique-id


i tried also with httpd 2.0.63. same thing. i can't imagine anymore what 
the hell can it be. i've done many other installs and never had this 
things happening.


the machine is freebsd 7. its a 64 bit build on a multiprocessor 
machine. dual quad core...  and identifies itself as amd64...


i just don't get it 


what to look at?!

thanks...



kalin m wrote:

i'd be assuming than that i'd need to build an older apache.
this is probably a stupid question but is there anybody out there that 
is using apache 2.2.9 + php 5.2.6 (as DSO) on freebsd 7 amd64 (multi 
processor) without problems?


thanks...



kalin m wrote:

sure.

./configure --prefix=/etc/httpd --enable-ssl 
--with-ssl=/usr/local/ssl --enable-rewrite --enable-so 
--enable-headers --enable-unique-id


like i said there is pretty much nothing in the error log for httpd. 
it's a brand new install. here is the whole file:


[Tue Jul 01 22:45:36 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not 
configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:45:37 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.9 
OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations
[Tue Jul 01 22:46:19 2008] [error] [client x.x.x.x] File does not 
exist: /usr/web/favicon.ico

[Tue Jul 01 22:50:11 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Tue Jul 01 22:52:33 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not 
configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:52:34 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.9 
OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations

[Tue Jul 01 22:55:29 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Tue Jul 01 22:55:35 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not 
configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:55:36 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.9 
OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations

[Tue Jul 01 23:00:50 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
~
(just changed my ip there)

i suspect the apache so module..  but not really sure  
executing php files on the cli is working fine to.. it must be the so...
httpd and php are supposed to just work together.  that's why 
core dump without any messages is a bit weired.




Odhiambo Washington wrote:

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:19 AM, kalin m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
there is no extensions.ini anywhere on this machine...  a brand new 
one.
httpd/logs/error_log has 6 lines in it. something about session 
cash (SSL)

not configured...

httpd runs fine without loading the php module



Would you like to provide details on how you compiled your apache
then? Did you use the ports to install?
What options did you compile with?
What is this that you have in the error_log that you don't want to 
reveal?



  

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Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia?

2008-07-02 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 10:36:22PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:

 We're advising our clients to stock up on canned goods and shotguns -
 Brain Gremlin

 Seriously?  What kind of business are you in that makes that an
 appropriate bit of advice?

Not seriously.

It's a movie quote - Gremlins II, The New Batch.

Very funny movie, IMO, with many many quotes and references to other
movies within it.

Kurt
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Re: Execute the command when login

2008-07-02 Thread prad
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:00:13 +0200
Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You could launch it from ~/.xinitrc for example as:
 
 xmodmap.sh
 exec startkde

i tried to do that with ion and it didn't work which came as a surprise.
however, i will try it again and maybe with a different wm.

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Re: RT2790 Wireless miniCard - ral not working on Eee Box

2008-07-02 Thread David Gurvich
Is there a driver for this chipset?  If not, why not?  :D!
No.  The developers probably don't have the hardware.  If you want
support for it, I would suggest donating a card to a developer.
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: httpd php dump

2008-07-02 Thread kalin m



if i build php with all the things i need it builds fine but at the time 
of instalaltion here is what happens:


# make install
Installing PHP SAPI module:   apache2handler
/etc/httpd/build/instdso.sh SH_LIBTOOL='/etc/httpd/build/libtool' 
libphp5.la /etc/httpd/modules

/etc/httpd/build/libtool --mode=install cp libphp5.la /etc/httpd/modules/
cp .libs/libphp5.so /etc/httpd/modules/libphp5.so
cp .libs/libphp5.lai /etc/httpd/modules/libphp5.la
libtool: install: warning: remember to run `libtool --finish 
/usr/local/src/php-5.2.6/libs'

chmod 755 /etc/httpd/modules/libphp5.so
[activating module `php5' in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf]
Installing PHP CLI binary:/usr/local/bin/
Installing PHP CLI man page:  /usr/local/man/man1/
Installing build environment: /usr/local/lib/php/build/
Installing header files:  /usr/local/include/php/
Installing helper programs:   /usr/local/bin/
 program: phpize
 program: php-config
Installing man pages: /usr/local/man/man1/
 page: phpize.1
 page: php-config.1
Installing PEAR environment:  /usr/local/lib/php/
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
*** Error code 139

Stop in /usr/local/src/php-5.2.6.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/local/src/php-5.2.6.


what is the logical explanation for all this

tanks.



kalin m wrote:

this is getting to ridiculous levels

if i build php only with --with-apxs2=/etc/httpd/bin/apxs then apache 
starts and httpd/php works ok. anything else added to the 
configuration - and i tried different stuff - ( 
--with-mysql=/usr/local/mysql; --with-curl; --with-openssl=/usr) - 
alone or in combination builds fine but at the time of apache startup 
it dumps core...


apparently the httpd - currently 2.2.9 - configure doesn't matter. so 
right now the httpd is configured - as intended - with:
./configure --prefix=/etc/httpd --enable-ssl --with-ssl=/usr/local/ssl 
--enable-rewrite --enable-so --enable-headers --enable-unique-id


i tried also with httpd 2.0.63. same thing. i can't imagine anymore 
what the hell can it be. i've done many other installs and never had 
this things happening.


the machine is freebsd 7. its a 64 bit build on a multiprocessor 
machine. dual quad core...  and identifies itself as amd64...


i just don't get it
what to look at?!

thanks...



kalin m wrote:

i'd be assuming than that i'd need to build an older apache.
this is probably a stupid question but is there anybody out there 
that is using apache 2.2.9 + php 5.2.6 (as DSO) on freebsd 7 amd64 
(multi processor) without problems?


thanks...



kalin m wrote:

sure.

./configure --prefix=/etc/httpd --enable-ssl 
--with-ssl=/usr/local/ssl --enable-rewrite --enable-so 
--enable-headers --enable-unique-id


like i said there is pretty much nothing in the error log for httpd. 
it's a brand new install. here is the whole file:


[Tue Jul 01 22:45:36 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not 
configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:45:37 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) 
mod_ssl/2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations
[Tue Jul 01 22:46:19 2008] [error] [client x.x.x.x] File does not 
exist: /usr/web/favicon.ico

[Tue Jul 01 22:50:11 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Tue Jul 01 22:52:33 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not 
configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:52:34 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) 
mod_ssl/2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations

[Tue Jul 01 22:55:29 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Tue Jul 01 22:55:35 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not 
configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:55:36 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) 
mod_ssl/2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations

[Tue Jul 01 23:00:50 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
~
(just changed my ip there)

i suspect the apache so module..  but not really sure  
executing php files on the cli is working fine to.. it must be the 
so...
httpd and php are supposed to just work together.  that's why 
core dump without any messages is a bit weired.




Odhiambo Washington wrote:

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:19 AM, kalin m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
there is no extensions.ini anywhere on this machine...  a brand 
new one.
httpd/logs/error_log has 6 lines in it. something about session 
cash (SSL)

not configured...

httpd runs fine without loading the php module



Would you like to provide details on how you compiled your apache
then? Did you use the ports to install?
What options did you compile with?
What is this that you have in the error_log that you don't want to 
reveal?



  

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Re: sendmail on server with ip aliases

2008-07-02 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:56:58 -0400, D W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 Having a problem with sendmail on some of my servers supporting several
 virtual apache hosts. Because these servers have 5-10 ip aliases bound, it
 sometimes trips up sendmail when sending outbound mail to my smarthost. All
 servers are configured to use the same smarthost. But on one of the hosts,
 sendmail will send out as the one of the virtual hosts instead of the main
 host, which is what I need.

 Example: webhost01.webdomain.com is the host.
 Five ip aliases for apache virtual servers:

Something is probably missing below the last quoted line.

Are you using jails for the virtual hosts?  If not, then you are
probably using *one* Sendmail instance for all the domains, which still
sends emails as the primary hostname but should work fine...

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Re: New user with a possible ZFS problem

2008-07-02 Thread Kevin Monceaux


On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Kevin Monceaux wrote:

Saturday I finally found one of those round tuits and switched my home 
PC from Debian to FreeBSD.


I probably should have mentioned that the box in question is a slightly 
older hyperthreaded Intel Pentium 4 box, an HP m260n to be exact, with 3GB 
of RAM.



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Re: Execute the command when login

2008-07-02 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 03:47:30PM -0700, prad wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:00:13 +0200
 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You could launch it from ~/.xinitrc for example as:
  
  xmodmap.sh
  exec startkde
 
 i tried to do that with ion and it didn't work which came as a surprise.
 however, i will try it again and maybe with a different wm.


i think that xmodmap requires that you have X running for it towork.
same with % xset r off that i need to prevent key bounces.  In your
shell initializatin file (~.login, ~/.zlogin ... ) is where the
the xmodmap line belongs.

a question for the list:: What is the global test to be sure that
X *is* running??  

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Re: Upgrade and change distro?

2008-07-02 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:13:11 -0500, Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On July 2, 2008 5:51:06 PM -0400 Sean Cavanaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Schmehl wrote:
 I have a dual core Intel server running 6.1 RELEASE i386.  I want to
 update it to 7.0 RELEASE.  Can I also switch to the AMD release at the
 same time?  (It's my understanding that all dual core processors should
 be  running AMD not i386.)

 If so, do I simply point to the GENERIC kernconf under AMD?  Any
 gotchas?

 AMD64 is for 64-bit chips from AMD and Intel. whether it is multi-core
 is beside. run i386 still if you want/need 32-bit operating system.
 there are some features and programs that will NOT work with AMD64.

 Thanks, Sean.  Maybe I'll understand FreeBSD some day.  :-)

 Will I need to rebuild all my ports after compiling the kernel and
 world?

Hi Paul,

If you change from 6.X to 7.0-RELEASE, then ``yes, that's a good idea''.

If you change from 32-bit 6.X to 64-bit 7.0-RELEASE, you will _have_ to
rebuild your ports as 64-bit applications.  Any subsequent port builds
will be built as 64-bit applications, so if you keep the 32-bit versions
around you will end up with a very odd mix of 32-bit and 64-bit parts.
That's bound to cause a lot of grief in the long run...

NOTE: If you rebuild FreeBSD 7.0 as a i386 (32-bit) system, it's
probably going to be a good idea to start from the packages in the
release CD-ROMs and then only rebuild the stuff that *really* *REALLY*
needs rebuilding.  A couple of very good reasons to rebuild a subset of
your ports are:

  * You need non-default options when building some ports.

  * Important security fixes in one of the installed ports.

A good indication of when to rebuild ports/packages to fix security
issues may be provided by the `ports-mgmt/portaudit' utility.  The
output of running `portaudit' looks like this:

: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root# portaudit -Fa
: auditfile.tbz 100% of   49 kB 9279  Bps
: New database installed.
: Affected package: fetchmail-6.3.8_6
: Type of problem: fetchmail -- potential crash in -v -v verbose mode (revised 
patch).
: Reference: 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/1e8e63c0-478a-11dd-a88d-000ea69a5213.html
:
: 1 problem(s) in your installed packages found.
:
: You are advised to update or deinstall the affected package(s) immediately.
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root#

This sort of output from `portaudit' means I can keep using my installed
ports, after rebuilding only the `mail/fetchmail' utility (and any ports
that depend on it).

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Re: Upgrade and change distro?

2008-07-02 Thread RW
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:13:11 -0500
Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --On July 2, 2008 5:51:06 PM -0400 Sean Cavanaugh 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  AMD64 is for 64-bit chips from AMD and Intel. whether it is
  multi-core is beside. run i386 still if you want/need 32-bit
  operating system. there are some features and programs that will
  NOT work with AMD64.
 
 
 Thanks, Sean.  Maybe I'll understand FreeBSD some day.  :-)
 
 Will I need to rebuild all my ports after compiling the kernel and
 world?

If you are talking about going from 6.x to 7.x then you should, but you
can probably get away without doing it.

If you are talking about going from i386 6.x to amd64 7.x, and you have
to ask, you should be doing a clean FreeBSD install.
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: httpd php dump

2008-07-02 Thread kalin m


what would this mean:

# ./configure --prefix=/etc/httpd --enable-ssl --with-ssl=/usr/local/ssl 
--enable-rewrite --enable-so --enable-headers --enable-unique-id

checking for chosen layout... Apache
checking for working mkdir -p... yes
checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-freebsd7.0
checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-freebsd7.0
checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-freebsd7.0

Configuring Apache Portable Runtime library ...

checking for APR... apr-1-config: not found
reconfig
configuring package in srclib/apr now
configure: WARNING: Unrecognized options: --enable-ssl, --with-ssl, 
--enable-rewrite, --enable-so, --enable-headers, --enable-unique-id


checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-freebsd7.0
checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-freebsd7.0
checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-freebsd7.0
Configuring APR library
...


Unrecognized options?!





kalin m wrote:



if i build php with all the things i need it builds fine but at the 
time of instalaltion here is what happens:


# make install
Installing PHP SAPI module:   apache2handler
/etc/httpd/build/instdso.sh SH_LIBTOOL='/etc/httpd/build/libtool' 
libphp5.la /etc/httpd/modules

/etc/httpd/build/libtool --mode=install cp libphp5.la /etc/httpd/modules/
cp .libs/libphp5.so /etc/httpd/modules/libphp5.so
cp .libs/libphp5.lai /etc/httpd/modules/libphp5.la
libtool: install: warning: remember to run `libtool --finish 
/usr/local/src/php-5.2.6/libs'

chmod 755 /etc/httpd/modules/libphp5.so
[activating module `php5' in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf]
Installing PHP CLI binary:/usr/local/bin/
Installing PHP CLI man page:  /usr/local/man/man1/
Installing build environment: /usr/local/lib/php/build/
Installing header files:  /usr/local/include/php/
Installing helper programs:   /usr/local/bin/
 program: phpize
 program: php-config
Installing man pages: /usr/local/man/man1/
 page: phpize.1
 page: php-config.1
Installing PEAR environment:  /usr/local/lib/php/
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
*** Error code 139

Stop in /usr/local/src/php-5.2.6.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/local/src/php-5.2.6.


what is the logical explanation for all this

tanks.



kalin m wrote:

this is getting to ridiculous levels

if i build php only with --with-apxs2=/etc/httpd/bin/apxs then apache 
starts and httpd/php works ok. anything else added to the 
configuration - and i tried different stuff - ( 
--with-mysql=/usr/local/mysql; --with-curl; --with-openssl=/usr) - 
alone or in combination builds fine but at the time of apache startup 
it dumps core...


apparently the httpd - currently 2.2.9 - configure doesn't matter. so 
right now the httpd is configured - as intended - with:
./configure --prefix=/etc/httpd --enable-ssl 
--with-ssl=/usr/local/ssl --enable-rewrite --enable-so 
--enable-headers --enable-unique-id


i tried also with httpd 2.0.63. same thing. i can't imagine anymore 
what the hell can it be. i've done many other installs and never had 
this things happening.


the machine is freebsd 7. its a 64 bit build on a multiprocessor 
machine. dual quad core...  and identifies itself as amd64...


i just don't get it
what to look at?!

thanks...



kalin m wrote:

i'd be assuming than that i'd need to build an older apache.
this is probably a stupid question but is there anybody out there 
that is using apache 2.2.9 + php 5.2.6 (as DSO) on freebsd 7 amd64 
(multi processor) without problems?


thanks...



kalin m wrote:

sure.

./configure --prefix=/etc/httpd --enable-ssl 
--with-ssl=/usr/local/ssl --enable-rewrite --enable-so 
--enable-headers --enable-unique-id


like i said there is pretty much nothing in the error log for 
httpd. it's a brand new install. here is the whole file:


[Tue Jul 01 22:45:36 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not 
configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:45:37 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) 
mod_ssl/2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations
[Tue Jul 01 22:46:19 2008] [error] [client x.x.x.x] File does not 
exist: /usr/web/favicon.ico

[Tue Jul 01 22:50:11 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Tue Jul 01 22:52:33 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not 
configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:52:34 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) 
mod_ssl/2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations

[Tue Jul 01 22:55:29 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Tue Jul 01 22:55:35 2008] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not 
configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Jul 01 22:55:36 2008] [notice] Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) 
mod_ssl/2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.8h configured -- resuming normal operations

[Tue Jul 01 23:00:50 2008] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
~
(just changed my ip there)

i suspect the apache so module..  but not really sure  
executing php files on the cli is 

Re: httpd php dump

2008-07-02 Thread Kirk Strauser

kalin m wrote:

ok...
what to do?

freebsd 7; httpd 2.2.9; php5.2.6 (or 5.1.2)

php was configured with just this : ./configure 
--with-mysql=/usr/local/mysql --with-apxs2=/etc/httpd/bin/apxs


Is there a reason you're not installing it through ports, which are 
extremely widely tested and patch FreeBSD-specific problems with a lot 
of software?

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Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia?

2008-07-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 03:38:48PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 10:36:22PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:
 
  We're advising our clients to stock up on canned goods and shotguns -
  Brain Gremlin
 
  Seriously?  What kind of business are you in that makes that an
  appropriate bit of advice?
 
 Not seriously.
 
 It's a movie quote - Gremlins II, The New Batch.
 
 Very funny movie, IMO, with many many quotes and references to other
 movies within it.

It has been so long since I've seen it that I don't remember anything
much about it.

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Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia?

2008-07-02 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 09:12:33PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 
 wikipedia is just a pile of junk. everyone can put in it, and
 unfortunately do.
 
 Meanwhile, in print encyclopedias, I see that with restricted writing
 access and strict editing processes there are typically systemic biases
 and subtler mistakes that are much easier to overlook -- and the mistakes
 not only persist until the next edition, but often exist for decades,
 whereas finding a mistake in Wikipedia is fixable within five minutes.
 
 and 3 others are added.

Do you really think such absurd exaggeration makes a valid point?


 
 The key is that an encyclopedia should never be the *end* of your
 research.  It's basically just a place to look for key terms to research
 
 actually what i do - to get the first glance on subject, THEN checking 
 more precisely.
 
 but quite often it's crap even at the first glance

I guess your definition of quite often must be much more permissive
than mine -- or you just have a real knack for finding bad information.

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to shell (and X window System) wizards.

2008-07-02 Thread Gary Kline

would this works, say in .zlogin, to  say that X is up:

if [ -e /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 ]
then
echo X is up.
exit 0;
else
echo No X yet
exit 1;
fi

or is there something more clever?

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Re: SAMBA 3.0.28a and CVE-2008-1105

2008-07-02 Thread Timur I. Bakeyev
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 1:20 PM, O. Hartmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Johan Hendriks wrote:

 Konrad Heuer wrote:

 On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, O. Hartmann wrote:

 We still have Samba R3.0.28a in the ports but regarding to
 CVE-2008-1105 shouldn't it be R3.0.30?

 As far as I know the mentioned security patch gets applied when

Each new version of Samba has it's own bugs, so I prefer not to commit
0 day release versions, but wait, until it's got proven to be stable
enough.

Again, there are talks about 3.0.31 release due some new fixes... *sigh*

With regards,
Timur.
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: httpd php dump

2008-07-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.

kalin m wrote:


what would this mean:

# ./configure --prefix=/etc/httpd --enable-ssl --with-ssl=/usr/local/ssl 
--enable-rewrite --enable-so --enable-headers --enable-unique-id

checking for chosen layout... Apache
checking for working mkdir -p... yes
checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-freebsd7.0
checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-freebsd7.0
checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-freebsd7.0

Configuring Apache Portable Runtime library ...

checking for APR... apr-1-config: not found
reconfig


It didn't find apr-1-config executable in your path, e.g. you did
not install apr and apr-util individually before building httpd (we hope)


configuring package in srclib/apr now
configure: WARNING: Unrecognized options: --enable-ssl, --with-ssl, 
--enable-rewrite, --enable-so, --enable-headers, --enable-unique-id


Unrecognized options?!


autoconf 1.62 new noise, entirely violates autoconf's design principals
(that warnings shouldn't be emitted and especially not for sub-packages).

apr doesn't have these options, httpd does.

We've hacked apr-1.3 to resolve this chaos, but you'll have to wait for
a new httpd package to clean up the noise.  In the meantime, ignore it.
It's meaningless (these were always unrecognized by apr, it just didn't
whine about it.)
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Re: Execute the command when login

2008-07-02 Thread ronggui
Mine is fvwm. Putting the command in ~/.xinitrc doesn't work.

Best to all.

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 6:47 AM, prad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:00:13 +0200
 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You could launch it from ~/.xinitrc for example as:

 xmodmap.sh
 exec startkde

 i tried to do that with ion and it didn't work which came as a surprise.
 however, i will try it again and maybe with a different wm.

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Re: Execute the command when login

2008-07-02 Thread ronggui
My solution:

add the command to ~/xinitrc
### content of ~/.xinitrc
xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc
exec fvwm
###
xmodmap must come before exec fvwm, otherwise it take no effect.

I tried to put xmodmap to ~/.login as well, but it is not satisfying.
When I login, FB  complains, as xmodmap has to executed after X
starts.

Best

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:39 AM, ronggui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mine is fvwm. Putting the command in ~/.xinitrc doesn't work.

 Best to all.

 On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 6:47 AM, prad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:00:13 +0200
 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You could launch it from ~/.xinitrc for example as:

 xmodmap.sh
 exec startkde

 i tried to do that with ion and it didn't work which came as a surprise.
 however, i will try it again and maybe with a different wm.

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Re: Execute the command when login

2008-07-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, July 03, 2008 a las 11:30:03AM +0800, ronggui escribió:

 My solution:
 
 add the command to ~/xinitrc
 ### content of ~/.xinitrc
 xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc
 exec fvwm
 ###
 xmodmap must come before exec fvwm, otherwise it take no effect.

Of course it will not work if you put it after 'exec fvwm' because than
it will get executed after fvwm dies and perhaps Xorg terminates;

as I said in my post you must ensure to have a proper DISPLAY variable
in your environment and X must be up in the moment you lauch any
X-application; both are missing in your ~/.xinitrc above; try this:

make a file xmodmap.sh with 

#!/bin/sh
DISPLAY=:0.0 export DISPLAY
sleep 10
xclock

put into your ~/.xinitrc the lines:

sh ~/xmodmap.sh 
exec fvwm

(don't miss the '' sign!) and watch if the xclock comes up after fvwm is up;

matthias

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Getting PAM up inside chroot issues

2008-07-02 Thread Unga
Hi all

I'm trying to getting PAM up inside a chroot. I'm using FreeBSD 7.0 on i386.

su -l shows following error:
su: pam_start: system error

strace su -l shows following failures:
access(/etc/localtime, R_OK)  = 0
open(/etc/localtime, O_RDONLY)= 4
fstat(4, {st_mode=S_IFLNK|S_ISGID|052, st_size=18445798717047743530, ...}) = 0
read(4, 3\244\374\377*\244\374\3773\244\374\3773\244\374\3773\244..., 7944) = 
171
close(4)= 0
socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_DGRAM, 0)  = 4
fcntl(4, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC)   = 0
connect(4, {sa_family=0xa4 /* AF_??? */, sa_data=\374\377\\[x\0%02x\0%1x}, 
106) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
connect(4, {sa_family=0x2f /* AF_??? */, sa_data=ystem call\0Inp}, 106) = -1 
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
connect(4, {sa_family=0x74 /* AF_??? */, sa_data=d processes\0Re}, 106) = -1 
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
close(4)= 0
sendto(-1, source deadlock avoided\0Cannot a..., 72, 0, NULL, 0) = -1 EBADF 
(Bad file descriptor)
socket(PF_UNIX, SOCK_DGRAM, 0)  = 4
fcntl(4, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC)   = 0
connect(4, {sa_family=0x6c /* AF_??? */, sa_data=nk\0\0\0\0Operatio}, 106) = 
-1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

There is no failure up to reading the  /etc/localtime.

This shows the socket (fd=4) disappeared before the connect. 

What am I still missing in my chroot? Where does this socket get created? is it 
the current directory where su initiated or somewhere else? 

Appreciate your help to identify the cause.

Kind regards
Unga


  
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