Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
Hi, On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:56 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: My main problem,Rugluxio,was that it wont boot my harddrive after I run the format /s command on it.My harddrive doesn't seem to like booting.Which is funny,because I had it working perfectly 2 months ago.(I installed linux on my laptop,then decided 4 days ago to reinstall FreeDOS to the harddrive via USB again). As mentioned, you may have to (carefully!!) run something like fdisk /mbr, if you haven't already. And of course you need to do sys c: d: /BOOTONLY (or similar) if there is no boot sector. And all of that assumes you have a valid (and active) FAT partition already. First, just make sure you're on the correct drive, and don't accidentally erase or corrupt anything! -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
Hi! I've tried everything.I ran format /s,I ran Fdisk,I've made the harddrive bootable.But when I go to boot into the harddrive,my laptop just restarts. There are various pretty technical reasons that could cause this: BIOS and DOS disagreeing about geometry when you run SYS or FORMAT versus when you boot, use of CHS geometry versus LBA mode, use of different BIOS drive numbers when using SYS versus when booting... The latter could even go as far as 00 (A) versus 80 (C), or it can be a smaller difference such as 80 versus 81 (different harddisk numbers). You can use SYS with the CONFIG option to patch kernels to disable LBA or to force the use of LBA and to enable or disable whether drive assignments are shown. With my sys-freedos.pl Perl script for Linux (requires NASM to be installed, sys-freedos-linux is the name of the zip download), you can and have to manipulate the geometry, drive number and whether LBA should be used. As this is not user friendly at all, I would only recommend this if your technical curiosity motivates you sufficiently to try various of the possible settings :-) Maybe somebody could provide you with a boot sector which displays the current drives and their properties, that would be nice for diagnostic checks instead of actual booting. Likewise, maybe some tool can be recommended to display a list of drives and properties at the time when you would normally run SYS, for comparison? Note that both the partition table (of both USB sticks and normal harddisks and SSD etc.) and information in the DOS boot sector of a partition can make statements about geometry and the latter also (optionally, I believe) about the expected BIOS drive number... I hope this helps with further investigations :-) Regards, Eric -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
I've tried everything.I ran format /s,I ran Fdisk,I've made the harddrive bootable.But when I go to boot into the harddrive,my laptop just restarts. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:56 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: My main problem,Rugluxio,was that it wont boot my harddrive after I run the format /s command on it.My harddrive doesn't seem to like booting.Which is funny,because I had it working perfectly 2 months ago.(I installed linux on my laptop,then decided 4 days ago to reinstall FreeDOS to the harddrive via USB again). As mentioned, you may have to (carefully!!) run something like fdisk /mbr, if you haven't already. And of course you need to do sys c: d: /BOOTONLY (or similar) if there is no boot sector. And all of that assumes you have a valid (and active) FAT partition already. First, just make sure you're on the correct drive, and don't accidentally erase or corrupt anything! -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
Perhaps.I know it booted to my harddrive two months ago.Why wouldn't it work now?Hm. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Hi! I've tried everything.I ran format /s,I ran Fdisk,I've made the harddrive bootable.But when I go to boot into the harddrive,my laptop just restarts. There are various pretty technical reasons that could cause this: BIOS and DOS disagreeing about geometry when you run SYS or FORMAT versus when you boot, use of CHS geometry versus LBA mode, use of different BIOS drive numbers when using SYS versus when booting... The latter could even go as far as 00 (A) versus 80 (C), or it can be a smaller difference such as 80 versus 81 (different harddisk numbers). You can use SYS with the CONFIG option to patch kernels to disable LBA or to force the use of LBA and to enable or disable whether drive assignments are shown. With my sys-freedos.pl Perl script for Linux (requires NASM to be installed, sys-freedos-linux is the name of the zip download), you can and have to manipulate the geometry, drive number and whether LBA should be used. As this is not user friendly at all, I would only recommend this if your technical curiosity motivates you sufficiently to try various of the possible settings :-) Maybe somebody could provide you with a boot sector which displays the current drives and their properties, that would be nice for diagnostic checks instead of actual booting. Likewise, maybe some tool can be recommended to display a list of drives and properties at the time when you would normally run SYS, for comparison? Note that both the partition table (of both USB sticks and normal harddisks and SSD etc.) and information in the DOS boot sector of a partition can make statements about geometry and the latter also (optionally, I believe) about the expected BIOS drive number... I hope this helps with further investigations :-) Regards, Eric -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
On 2015.06.04 19:28, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU wrote: As for the ISO that gave an error,it was Mateusz's unofficial FDNPKG .iso. Ah OK. That ISO uses El-torito with a (FreeDOS) floppy image, so it's not compatible with Rufus yet (I have an enhancement [1] for El-Torito support, but it's a lot more tricky than it looks, even if the image is a FreeDOS one, as you'll usually get hardcoded A: paths all over the place, which need to be converted). Using 7-zip and Rufus here's what I'd do: 1. Using Rufus create a FreeDOS bootable USB (no need to point to an ISO, just select FreeDOS) 2. Using 7-zip, open all_cd.iso and then, still in 7-zip, open [BOOT]\Bootable_1.44M.img - you will see the FreeDOS content from the El-Torito bootable image 3. Extract that content to the root of the USB you created with Rufus, overwriting anything that's already on the USB 4. Edit CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT on the USB and change any A: path to C: 5. Go back to the root of the ISO in 7-zip and extract everything except the [BOOT]\ directory onto the USB. Of course there may be more tweaking to do, but that should get you closer to running that all_cd content from USB. Regards, /Pete [1] https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/issues/63 -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
My main problem,Rugluxio,was that it wont boot my harddrive after I run the format /s command on it.My harddrive doesn't seem to like booting.Which is funny,because I had it working perfectly 2 months ago.(I installed linux on my laptop,then decided 4 days ago to reinstall FreeDOS to the harddrive via USB again). On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Pete Batard p...@akeo.ie wrote: On 2015.06.04 19:28, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU wrote: As for the ISO that gave an error,it was Mateusz's unofficial FDNPKG .iso. Ah OK. That ISO uses El-torito with a (FreeDOS) floppy image, so it's not compatible with Rufus yet (I have an enhancement [1] for El-Torito support, but it's a lot more tricky than it looks, even if the image is a FreeDOS one, as you'll usually get hardcoded A: paths all over the place, which need to be converted). Using 7-zip and Rufus here's what I'd do: 1. Using Rufus create a FreeDOS bootable USB (no need to point to an ISO, just select FreeDOS) 2. Using 7-zip, open all_cd.iso and then, still in 7-zip, open [BOOT]\Bootable_1.44M.img - you will see the FreeDOS content from the El-Torito bootable image 3. Extract that content to the root of the USB you created with Rufus, overwriting anything that's already on the USB 4. Edit CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT on the USB and change any A: path to C: 5. Go back to the root of the ISO in 7-zip and extract everything except the [BOOT]\ directory onto the USB. Of course there may be more tweaking to do, but that should get you closer to running that all_cd content from USB. Regards, /Pete [1] https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/issues/63 -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
Hi, On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:28 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: I also burned the FD11src ISO to my flashdrive.I can't seem to be able to install FreeDOS from my flashdrive,as the installer gives me two options:1.Load optical driver units and install. 2.Create a drive using FDISK. I press 1 (Which is what starts the installer),but it simply blanks out,and makes FDISK the only choice.As for the ISO that gave an error,it was Mateusz's unofficial FDNPKG .iso. So now you can indeed boot FreeDOS via USB without BIOS problems? (I was naively going to suggest you press the relevant key [F12?] to bring up BIOS boot options. Also go into settings and disable anything similar to quick boot.) But if you can already boot, then you can still install stuff manually. So there shouldn't be any huge problems, just maybe it's not as convenient. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:24 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: I booted my laptop into the USB,which had a copy of SYS and KERNEL.SYS on it.I then ran the format /s command on drive D: (Which is my harddrive.C: is the flashdrive I booted into).It formatted and made drive D: bootable.I then restarted the laptop,and booted it into the harddrive.As soon as BIOS boots into it,my computer just restarts.Half a second after the boot into the harddrive,the screen goes blank then restarts to BIOS. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Pete Batard p...@akeo.ie wrote: It stated this exact error: This version of rufus only supports bootable ISOs based on bootmgr,EFI,Grub4DOS,GRUB 1,isolinux or winpe.This ISO does not use either... If you got that message, then I don't believe you were using the fd11src.iso (SHA1: af6209905d048ce3ac01683e1d22501a632d7491). -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
I booted my laptop into the USB,which had a copy of SYS and KERNEL.SYS on it.I then ran the format /s command on drive D: (Which is my harddrive.C: is the flashdrive I booted into).It formatted and made drive D: bootable.I then restarted the laptop,and booted it into the harddrive.As soon as BIOS boots into it,my computer just restarts.Half a second after the boot into the harddrive,the screen goes blank then restarts to BIOS. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Pete Batard p...@akeo.ie wrote: Hi, It stated this exact error: This version of rufus only supports bootable ISOs based on bootmgr,EFI,Grub4DOS,GRUB 1,isolinux or winpe.This ISO does not use either... If you got that message, then I don't believe you were using the fd11src.iso (SHA1: af6209905d048ce3ac01683e1d22501a632d7491). That ISO is Syslinux/Isolinux based and works fine with Rufus. I checked it again a couple minutes ago. What ISO were you using exactly? Also, please remember that Rufus can install a native bootable FreeDOS without the need for a source. Then you can just copy the DOS content you want to run from the USB. IIRC, the one issue is if you try to run the installer from a FreeDOS bootable USB, as it expects to be run from a CD-ROM and you get something like FreeDOS wasn't able to locate any disks to install FreeDOS from... (Although you should probably email the RUFUS dude as well, esp. since his website still lists [at the bottom] FreeDOS as working correctly.) The Rufus dude is subscribed to this mailing list (though he only checks it infrequently)... ;) Also, unless I get verifiable reports that the official FreeDOS ISO or native Rufus FreeDOS installation have a problem, I will consider that FreeDOS is working correctly with Rufus. By the way, the issue tracker for Rufus is at https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/issues. Regards, /Pete -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
Hi, It stated this exact error: This version of rufus only supports bootable ISOs based on bootmgr,EFI,Grub4DOS,GRUB 1,isolinux or winpe.This ISO does not use either... If you got that message, then I don't believe you were using the fd11src.iso (SHA1: af6209905d048ce3ac01683e1d22501a632d7491). That ISO is Syslinux/Isolinux based and works fine with Rufus. I checked it again a couple minutes ago. What ISO were you using exactly? Also, please remember that Rufus can install a native bootable FreeDOS without the need for a source. Then you can just copy the DOS content you want to run from the USB. IIRC, the one issue is if you try to run the installer from a FreeDOS bootable USB, as it expects to be run from a CD-ROM and you get something like FreeDOS wasn't able to locate any disks to install FreeDOS from... (Although you should probably email the RUFUS dude as well, esp. since his website still lists [at the bottom] FreeDOS as working correctly.) The Rufus dude is subscribed to this mailing list (though he only checks it infrequently)... ;) Also, unless I get verifiable reports that the official FreeDOS ISO or native Rufus FreeDOS installation have a problem, I will consider that FreeDOS is working correctly with Rufus. By the way, the issue tracker for Rufus is at https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/issues. Regards, /Pete -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
I booted my laptop into the USB,which had a copy of SYS and KERNEL.SYS on it.I then ran the format /s command on drive D: (My harddrive,C: is the flashdrive I boote into).It formatted and made drive D: bootable.I then restarted the laptop,and booted it into the harddrive.As soon as BIOS boots into it,my computer just restarts.Half a second after the boot into the harddrive,the screen goes blank then restarts to BIOS. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Pete Batard p...@akeo.ie wrote: Hi, It stated this exact error: This version of rufus only supports bootable ISOs based on bootmgr,EFI,Grub4DOS,GRUB 1,isolinux or winpe.This ISO does not use either... If you got that message, then I don't believe you were using the fd11src.iso (SHA1: af6209905d048ce3ac01683e1d22501a632d7491). That ISO is Syslinux/Isolinux based and works fine with Rufus. I checked it again a couple minutes ago. What ISO were you using exactly? Also, please remember that Rufus can install a native bootable FreeDOS without the need for a source. Then you can just copy the DOS content you want to run from the USB. IIRC, the one issue is if you try to run the installer from a FreeDOS bootable USB, as it expects to be run from a CD-ROM and you get something like FreeDOS wasn't able to locate any disks to install FreeDOS from... (Although you should probably email the RUFUS dude as well, esp. since his website still lists [at the bottom] FreeDOS as working correctly.) The Rufus dude is subscribed to this mailing list (though he only checks it infrequently)... ;) Also, unless I get verifiable reports that the official FreeDOS ISO or native Rufus FreeDOS installation have a problem, I will consider that FreeDOS is working correctly with Rufus. By the way, the issue tracker for Rufus is at https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/issues. Regards, /Pete -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
I also burned the FD11src ISO to my flashdrive.I can't seem to be able to install FreeDOS from my flashdrive,as the installer gives me two options:1.Load optical driver units and install. 2.Create a drive using FDISK. I press 1 (Which is what starts the installer),but it simply blanks out,and makes FDISK the only choice.As for the ISO that gave an error,it was Mateusz's unofficial FDNPKG .iso. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:24 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: I booted my laptop into the USB,which had a copy of SYS and KERNEL.SYS on it.I then ran the format /s command on drive D: (Which is my harddrive.C: is the flashdrive I booted into).It formatted and made drive D: bootable.I then restarted the laptop,and booted it into the harddrive.As soon as BIOS boots into it,my computer just restarts.Half a second after the boot into the harddrive,the screen goes blank then restarts to BIOS. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Pete Batard p...@akeo.ie wrote: Hi, It stated this exact error: This version of rufus only supports bootable ISOs based on bootmgr,EFI,Grub4DOS,GRUB 1,isolinux or winpe.This ISO does not use either... If you got that message, then I don't believe you were using the fd11src.iso (SHA1: af6209905d048ce3ac01683e1d22501a632d7491). That ISO is Syslinux/Isolinux based and works fine with Rufus. I checked it again a couple minutes ago. What ISO were you using exactly? Also, please remember that Rufus can install a native bootable FreeDOS without the need for a source. Then you can just copy the DOS content you want to run from the USB. IIRC, the one issue is if you try to run the installer from a FreeDOS bootable USB, as it expects to be run from a CD-ROM and you get something like FreeDOS wasn't able to locate any disks to install FreeDOS from... (Although you should probably email the RUFUS dude as well, esp. since his website still lists [at the bottom] FreeDOS as working correctly.) The Rufus dude is subscribed to this mailing list (though he only checks it infrequently)... ;) Also, unless I get verifiable reports that the official FreeDOS ISO or native Rufus FreeDOS installation have a problem, I will consider that FreeDOS is working correctly with Rufus. By the way, the issue tracker for Rufus is at https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/issues. Regards, /Pete -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
Hi! Just a quick remark, the last time that I had issues booting from USB stick (for some antivirus boot tool) it was because the boot stick generator tool had failed to put a bootable MBR on the stick and mark the partition as bootable. When you KNOW that that is the problem, it is easy to fix with FDISK-style tools, FDISK /MBR etc. but of course take care to not accidentally zap any partitions on your stick or, worse, on some other drive. I think sometimes USB sticks also report as non-boot because they do not want to promise anything about speed of access etc. but I would guess that a BIOS will often feel free to ignore such pessimism ;-) Regards, Eric I used the ISO file.Rufus stated it wasn't bootable. RUFUS whined that the USB wasn't bootable? Or you tried, and it just didn't boot? There's some fiddly setting about whether to use MBR or SysLinux or whatnot. I don't remember, but you could try switching that. Actually, some specific USB jump drives just aren't bootable at all. But the only way to be sure is try a different OS (presumably Linux). That is, if you don't have another spare USB drive lying around. You could also try with UNetBootIn (with FreeDOS or Linux): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
If you need to find out what your BIOS provides, check rayer's tool [0]. [0] http://rayer.g6.cz/programm/programe.htm On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Louis Santillan lpsan...@gmail.com wrote: I don't believe FD1.1 supports what you're looking for. You need your BIOS to support special USB HDD as DOS drive emulation or maybe you can read up on this FreeDOS USB technote [0]. Some vintage BIOSes only had EDD 1.1 [1]. If you were lucky you had EDD 3.0 [2]. Apparently, there was even a 4.0 spec produced [3]. I'm not sure what level of support the kernel, fdisk, and sys have but they do have some since FAT32 was integrated. Try it and see if you get lucky. [0] http://www.freedos.org/technotes/newsitem/149.html [1] http://www-pc.uni-regensburg.de/hardware/TECHDOK/ATA_EDD_11.PDF [2] http://www.singlix.net/specs/specsedd30.pdf [3] http://www.t13.org/documents/UploadedDocuments/docs2008/e08134r1-BIOS_Enhanced_Disk_Drive_Services_4.0.pdf On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:20 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Didn't work.If I boot from my installation CD on my desktop,would I be able to install everything to a plugged in external harddrive instead of my internal harddrive? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:49 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: It stated this exact error: This version of rufus only supports bootable ISOs based on bootmgr,EFI,Grub4DOS,GRUB 1,isolinux or winpe.This ISO does not use either... Then it exits. Well, try UNetBootIn instead. (Although you should probably email the RUFUS dude as well, esp. since his website still lists [at the bottom] FreeDOS as working correctly.) -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:49 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: It stated this exact error: This version of rufus only supports bootable ISOs based on bootmgr,EFI,Grub4DOS,GRUB 1,isolinux or winpe.This ISO does not use either... Then it exits. Well, try UNetBootIn instead. (Although you should probably email the RUFUS dude as well, esp. since his website still lists [at the bottom] FreeDOS as working correctly.) -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
I used the ISO file.Rufus stated it wasn't bootable. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Jun 2, 2015 3:36 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Hello.As of right now,I am trying to install FreeDOS on my 'lil Hp laptop.It does not have a CD drive,only two USB ports.So,I booted FreeDOS via USB,and ran the format /s command.It gave me an error stating 'WARNING: No SYS in PATH - Could not install system files!.What do I need to do to make the laptop's harddrive bootable into FreeDOS? I have done this before,but that was when I had two computers with FreeDOS on it.Any help for the format /s command? 1). Do everything manually: fdisk, fdapm warmboot, format /q c:, sys a: c: /bootonly, copy command.com and kernel.sys . Then unpack whatever other .ZIPs you need. 2). Use RUFUS to install the .iso to bootable USB jump drive. 3). Use Mateusz's unofficial FDNPKG .iso from iBiblio instead of FD11SRC.ISO . -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:41 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: I used the ISO file.Rufus stated it wasn't bootable. RUFUS whined that the USB wasn't bootable? Or you tried, and it just didn't boot? There's some fiddly setting about whether to use MBR or SysLinux or whatnot. I don't remember, but you could try switching that. Actually, some specific USB jump drives just aren't bootable at all. But the only way to be sure is try a different OS (presumably Linux). That is, if you don't have another spare USB drive lying around. You could also try with UNetBootIn (with FreeDOS or Linux): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
It stated this exact error: This version of rufus only supports bootable ISOs based on bootmgr,EFI,Grub4DOS,GRUB 1,isolinux or winpe.This ISO does not use either... Then it exits. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:41 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: I used the ISO file.Rufus stated it wasn't bootable. RUFUS whined that the USB wasn't bootable? Or you tried, and it just didn't boot? There's some fiddly setting about whether to use MBR or SysLinux or whatnot. I don't remember, but you could try switching that. Actually, some specific USB jump drives just aren't bootable at all. But the only way to be sure is try a different OS (presumably Linux). That is, if you don't have another spare USB drive lying around. You could also try with UNetBootIn (with FreeDOS or Linux): http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
I don't believe FD1.1 supports what you're looking for. You need your BIOS to support special USB HDD as DOS drive emulation or maybe you can read up on this FreeDOS USB technote [0]. Some vintage BIOSes only had EDD 1.1 [1]. If you were lucky you had EDD 3.0 [2]. Apparently, there was even a 4.0 spec produced [3]. I'm not sure what level of support the kernel, fdisk, and sys have but they do have some since FAT32 was integrated. Try it and see if you get lucky. [0] http://www.freedos.org/technotes/newsitem/149.html [1] http://www-pc.uni-regensburg.de/hardware/TECHDOK/ATA_EDD_11.PDF [2] http://www.singlix.net/specs/specsedd30.pdf [3] http://www.t13.org/documents/UploadedDocuments/docs2008/e08134r1-BIOS_Enhanced_Disk_Drive_Services_4.0.pdf On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:20 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Didn't work.If I boot from my installation CD on my desktop,would I be able to install everything to a plugged in external harddrive instead of my internal harddrive? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:49 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: It stated this exact error: This version of rufus only supports bootable ISOs based on bootmgr,EFI,Grub4DOS,GRUB 1,isolinux or winpe.This ISO does not use either... Then it exits. Well, try UNetBootIn instead. (Although you should probably email the RUFUS dude as well, esp. since his website still lists [at the bottom] FreeDOS as working correctly.) -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
Didn't work.If I boot from my installation CD on my desktop,would I be able to install everything to a plugged in external harddrive instead of my internal harddrive? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:49 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: It stated this exact error: This version of rufus only supports bootable ISOs based on bootmgr,EFI,Grub4DOS,GRUB 1,isolinux or winpe.This ISO does not use either... Then it exits. Well, try UNetBootIn instead. (Although you should probably email the RUFUS dude as well, esp. since his website still lists [at the bottom] FreeDOS as working correctly.) -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
Hi, On Jun 3, 2015 4:21 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Didn't work. UNetBootIn? With either DOS or Linux?? If I boot from my installation CD on my desktop,would I be able to install everything to a plugged in external harddrive instead of my internal harddrive? Presumably, yes, so give it a try. (Or just use QEMU.) -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
I made the harddrive bootable with SYS.COM,but when my laptop boots into the harddrive,it just restarts.Meaning,when it boots into the harddrive (Which is now bootable with FreeDOS on it),it just blanks out for 1 second,then BIOS opens up again.Kernel bug? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:36 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Hello.As of right now,I am trying to install FreeDOS on my 'lil Hp laptop.It does not have a CD drive,only two USB ports.So,I booted FreeDOS via USB,and ran the format /s command.It gave me an error stating 'WARNING: No SYS in PATH - Could not install system files!.What do I need to do to make the laptop's harddrive bootable into FreeDOS?I have done this before,but that was when I had two computers with FreeDOS on it.Any help for the format /s command? -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
I experienced similar issues on my laptop which also lacks a CD-ROM drive. The current FreeDOS installer seems hard coded to install from a CD-ROM, as the only way I was able to get it to work was using an external drive via USB. Hope this helps. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:16 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: I made the harddrive bootable with SYS.COM,but when my laptop boots into the harddrive,it just restarts.Meaning,when it boots into the harddrive (Which is now bootable with FreeDOS on it),it just blanks out for 1 second,then BIOS opens up again.Kernel bug? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:36 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Hello.As of right now,I am trying to install FreeDOS on my 'lil Hp laptop.It does not have a CD drive,only two USB ports.So,I booted FreeDOS via USB,and ran the format /s command.It gave me an error stating 'WARNING: No SYS in PATH - Could not install system files!.What do I need to do to make the laptop's harddrive bootable into FreeDOS?I have done this before,but that was when I had two computers with FreeDOS on it.Any help for the format /s command? -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
Didn't help. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Mercury Thirteen mercury0x0...@gmail.com wrote: I experienced similar issues on my laptop which also lacks a CD-ROM drive. The current FreeDOS installer seems hard coded to install from a CD-ROM, as the only way I was able to get it to work was using an external drive via USB. Hope this helps. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:16 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: I made the harddrive bootable with SYS.COM,but when my laptop boots into the harddrive,it just restarts.Meaning,when it boots into the harddrive (Which is now bootable with FreeDOS on it),it just blanks out for 1 second,then BIOS opens up again.Kernel bug? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:36 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Hello.As of right now,I am trying to install FreeDOS on my 'lil Hp laptop.It does not have a CD drive,only two USB ports.So,I booted FreeDOS via USB,and ran the format /s command.It gave me an error stating 'WARNING: No SYS in PATH - Could not install system files!.What do I need to do to make the laptop's harddrive bootable into FreeDOS?I have done this before,but that was when I had two computers with FreeDOS on it.Any help for the format /s command? -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
It apparently does need a cd rom.Any other ways around this? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:32 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Didn't help. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Mercury Thirteen mercury0x0...@gmail.com wrote: I experienced similar issues on my laptop which also lacks a CD-ROM drive. The current FreeDOS installer seems hard coded to install from a CD-ROM, as the only way I was able to get it to work was using an external drive via USB. Hope this helps. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:16 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: I made the harddrive bootable with SYS.COM,but when my laptop boots into the harddrive,it just restarts.Meaning,when it boots into the harddrive (Which is now bootable with FreeDOS on it),it just blanks out for 1 second,then BIOS opens up again.Kernel bug? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:36 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Hello.As of right now,I am trying to install FreeDOS on my 'lil Hp laptop.It does not have a CD drive,only two USB ports.So,I booted FreeDOS via USB,and ran the format /s command.It gave me an error stating 'WARNING: No SYS in PATH - Could not install system files!.What do I need to do to make the laptop's harddrive bootable into FreeDOS?I have done this before,but that was when I had two computers with FreeDOS on it.Any help for the format /s command? -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS install
Hi, On Jun 2, 2015 3:36 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Hello.As of right now,I am trying to install FreeDOS on my 'lil Hp laptop.It does not have a CD drive,only two USB ports.So,I booted FreeDOS via USB,and ran the format /s command.It gave me an error stating 'WARNING: No SYS in PATH - Could not install system files!.What do I need to do to make the laptop's harddrive bootable into FreeDOS? I have done this before,but that was when I had two computers with FreeDOS on it.Any help for the format /s command? 1). Do everything manually: fdisk, fdapm warmboot, format /q c:, sys a: c: /bootonly, copy command.com and kernel.sys . Then unpack whatever other .ZIPs you need. 2). Use RUFUS to install the .iso to bootable USB jump drive. 3). Use Mateusz's unofficial FDNPKG .iso from iBiblio instead of FD11SRC.ISO . -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Freedos install livecd with drivers or bios flash
Hi, On Jan 14, 2013 3:29 AM, opensou...@tigusoft.pl opensou...@tigusoft.pl wrote: I anyone was wondering the previous post was meant live. fdboot.img seems to be the only live... the only live image. Have you tried to compress the BIOS .EXE file with 7-Zip ( or UHarc or similar) first? How big is the result? How big is the original? Otherwise, since you mentioned USB, have you tried RUFUS or UNetBootin? I guess you could always roll your own CD .iso, but as long as you boot FreeDOS, you should be able to copy and run the file from any available secondary storage. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
