Re: [Freedos-user] How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine
Am 04.08.2014 um 16:10 schrieb Mateusz Viste mate...@viste.fr: So no reason to be confused, the DOS PC as FTP server is a perfectly valid (and working) solution, just not fitting exactly in my (very personal) needs. The only thing I need to look for now is a user-friendly FTP client I could use from the DOS PC. Currently I use either curl (if I need to fetch) or the wattcp FTP client (if I need to push), but since I discovered the FTP capabilities of the latest NDN (thanks Rugxulo!), I will definitely try to make it work, as it's *exactly* what I was looking for. Too bad it craps on me so far, but this must be some configuration problem - Rugxulo implied it worked for him, so there must be a way to make it work on my PC, too. Does the FTP of NDN really work with plain FreeDOS? After reading the discussion here http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/mix_entry.php?id=3628 I have the impression it only works under Win32. Please correct me if I am wrong. Running Far Manager under plain FreeDOS would be VERY interesting - but I wasn't able to get it up quickly. A tutorial or a short HOWTO would be great, if anyone can reproduce the steps mentioned in the link above. The only graphical FTP client for DOS I have working is Minuet (shareware, v18). http://www.fdisk.com/doslynx/minuet/ Just enter the server address in form of ftp-server.somedomain.com and your credentials and you get a horizontal two-pane window. Sounds better than it actually is. At the moment I prefer starting up mTCP ftpsrv and use a GUI client on the OS that actually has a GUI. kind regards Uli -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Runs on dos?
Even as far back as XP, the dos emulator(NTVDM) would not allow certain low level operations, and would abort; oddly, the XP will allow the interrupts for mousing, but reject others. Odd because with some imagination, even the inocuouse int33 for mouse can vector malware. -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine
Enable usb in the bios then load Hamamatsu drivers into your config.sys. Its a driver found on the web. Works very well. Everyone uses it for DOS. It only works for flash memory and usb floppies. If you have RS232 available then you can use xtalk to move file between computers. The DOS On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 15:56:49 +0200 Mateusz Viste mate...@viste.fr writes: Hi, I see - it still looks like some neat BIOS emulation thing, though. Does it mean that the USB drive must be inserted before booting the PC (even if not booting from the USB drive itself)? I guess you're lucky to have some smart BIOS there ;) Anyway, it's still 'sneakernet-like' technology, which must be tiring when needing to swap files in/out several times a day.. cheers, Mateusz On 08/04/2014 02:59 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: Not booting from USB but reading FLASH on USB as a drive letter like a floppy. I do it all the time. I read the camera flash and play the movies and look at pictures on flash. Flash is usually drive E: Unfornunately you can only read one flash at a time unless you can run DUSE which only works on a Cypress chip set. cheers DS . On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 12:18:58 +0200 Mateusz Viste mate...@viste.fr writes: Hi all, Thank you all for your replies! I was assuming network transfers only, as this seems the only proper way, and I've been surprised how many of us still use non-networked file transfers methods :) Here below I list all methods that have been mentioned, along with a short comment on each. * Floppies/CD (Zbigniew, Rugxulo) - really slow. floppies are hard to get nowadays. Burning a CD every time I need to transfer a few KiBs of files seems wasteful. * Double boot - either to copy files from one partition to another, or move data using 'modern' means (Matej, Dennis, John) - rebooting into another OS just to copy some files can be a pain.. * Booting from USB as a mean of accessing USB flash drives (Matej, Dale) - as above, requires a reboot to exchange files. plus, not every PC have USB. and these that have it, don't necessarily know how to boot from it. * Running a mTCP FTP server on the DOS machine (Matej, Michael, Ulrich) - this is nice, although I'd prefer keeping the DOS PC as a simple 'client'. * Running a FTP server on remote server, and connecting from DOS via a FTP client (Michael, Rugxulo) - this is definitely my preferred way so far. And it would be perfect if there was a nice FTP client for DOS. There are a few CLI FTP clients already, but using FTP over CLI is not very convenient. A NC-style FTP tool would be awesome. I didn't know about Necromancer DOS Navigator's ability to access FTP drives (mostly because I was using an older version of NDN without this feature) - this looks like the perfect tool. Unfortunately it looks like NDN doesn't like my networking environnement. It's able to connect to my FTP server one time out of 20, and then the connectivity goes down after few seconds anyway. I will have to check this out. Not sure how its TCP/IP stack (SabreTooth) is supposed to be configurable.. * Using a CF-IDE adapter (Alain) - Requires a reboot (or even worse - a halt/change CF/start operation). * Using parallel transfers via winlink (Ulrich) - this sounds nice, but as far as I understand it requires a Win3.x OS on the host computer. And a parallel interface (which I don't have on my laptop). Finally, the FTP method looks like the fastest/most convenient one. Setting up a FTP server on a remote host is easy. Only problem is to have a humanly convenient way to use FTP from within FreeDOS. The latest version (2010) of NDN looks very promising, and it's the only DOS FTP client known to me that presents a user-friendly interface. Unfortunately it's either buggy or incompatible with something I have, or I don't know how to configure its exotic (FreePascal?) networking stack. But definitely worth some investigations! thanks, Mateusz On 08/01/2014 02:23 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: Hello, That's a question to those of you who happen to still keep an oldish hardware machine dedicated to DOS tasks... How do you transfer files between your main computer and your FreeDOS-powered machine ? Myself, I haven't found any really creative solution so far, and rely on one of these: - using the DOS port of SCP (this works both ways, but not very user-friendly) - putting files on my gopher server, and fetching them from my DOS PC using a gopher client (works only if I need to copy files TO the DOS workstation, but not the other way around) Obviously, both solutions are quite annoying. Best would be to have some kind of file manager similar to Norton Commander that
Re: [Freedos-user] Runs on dos?
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:45 AM, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: Even as far back as XP, the dos emulator(NTVDM) would not allow certain low level operations, and would abort; oddly, the XP will allow the interrupts for mousing, but reject others. Odd because with some imagination, even the inocuouse int33 for mouse can vector malware. Not that odd. The issue for DOS apps running under a multitasking OS is the the app can't assume it is the only thing running with full control of the hardware. The stuff that will be blocked will be things that might interfere with the state of other running applications. Mouse clicks aren't likely to cause problems. Things DOS apps did for performance, like direct writes to video memory are another matter. And I don't believe it's NTVDM actually doing the blocking. It's setting up the virtual DOS environment, but restriction on access to the underlying hardware will happen elsewhere in Windows, __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine
My experience with USB sticks in FreeDOS is that the USB stick is treated like a fixed disk: must be in at boot time, and no changing USB sticks. That depends on which drivers you're using. The BIOS, and most DOS USB drivers, do indeed work that way. My drivers treat flash drives as a removable hard drive (quasi-plug-and-play) rather than a fixed hard drive, so you can plug and unplug whenever you want to. My drivers currently have other issues, such as slow speed and support for only USB v1 host controllers manufactured by Intel and Via, but that will eventually get fixed. You can download the drivers from http://bretjohnson.us and try them out. -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine
On 08/05/2014 11:47 AM, Ulrich wrote: Does the FTP of NDN really work with plain FreeDOS? After reading the discussion here http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/mix_entry.php?id=3628 I have the impression it only works under Win32. Please correct me if I am wrong. I'm sorry to tell you that you are wrong :) Although I couldn't (yet) get it working reliably on my PC, I was able to connect to my FTP server one time, and list its content, which is enough to say that the DOS version of NDN is functional. For me it failed to connect most of the time though, but I believe it's because of some stuff specific to my environment (and I had no time yet to investigate in details). Mateusz -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP's FTP incompatible with FDAPM (was: How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine)
Hi Mike, On 08/05/2014 06:08 AM, Michael B. Brutman wrote: How about sending a bug report? I make it so easy for people to tell me when something is not quite right, but I never get bug reports ... I have the same problem :) My guess it's that's purely because of human laziness. It's much easier and faster to replace a non-working software by another piece of software (when there is any alternative), than to do tests, and write bug reports... Plus, you're never sure whether a bug is a bug, or some local misconfiguration. ones related to power management. One of the DOS power management TSRs had a bad side effect that resembled what you described. By one of the DOS power mgmt TSR I guess you meant Eric's FDAPM (which is the only FreeDOS-specific power control tool). I do use it since forever, as it does a really great job at keeping my CPU cool and my power-meter smiling. I temporarily disabled FDAPM and re-tested your FTP client. And indeed - problem is gone! Without FDAPM, the mTCP FTP client reacts very well. I don't know what the exact problem is, nor where exactly the bug lies (FDAPM? FTP? A bit on both?), but I don't have such 'sluggish keyboard feedback' behavior with any other application. I also tried to re-activate FDAPM using the adv:reg parameter (I think I read somewhere - probably on this mailing list - that it helps sometimes with similar troubles), but it didn't change anything in this case. Or maybe it helped a little bit, but nothing significant. cheers, Mateusz -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine
Am 05.08.2014 um 21:22 schrieb Mateusz Viste mate...@viste.fr: On 08/05/2014 11:47 AM, Ulrich wrote: Does the FTP of NDN really work with plain FreeDOS? After reading the discussion here http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/mix_entry.php?id=3628 I have the impression it only works under Win32. Please correct me if I am wrong. I'm sorry to tell you that you are wrong :) Although I couldn't (yet) get it working reliably on my PC, I was able to connect to my FTP server one time, and list its content, Thanks for the correction. For me it showed Connection Error Socket error 10051 Error code #10051 each time I tried to connect to a FTP server. So I give it another try too. Thanks a lot! :-) -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP's FTP and power management
Before we claim that mTCP is not compatible with FDAPM, what FDAPM options are you using? fdapm apmdos has worked for me before. My notes are in power.txt. Mike -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine
Hi, On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Zbigniew zbigniew2...@gmail.com wrote: Switching among many startup configurations is something we can't avoid in DOS. I assume you mean CONFIG.SYS menus. The old old days where you needed to rename / copy separate files in order to multi-boot such setups is long gone. (Of course, FreeDOS isn't quite MS or DR compatible here, but who cares?) Though it's hard to organize such things effectively. It's almost an art to keep things minimal, isolated, self-contained ... hence it's actually almost easier to just have separate configs in separate files. I have three main setups (sets of config files): one for RUFUS (USB), one for (not quite) raw, and my main desktop's (menu-based, which I rarely use) setup. I don't know if it would be wise to merge them all. Heck, I don't even reliably have them backed up. Maybe we need a public Git repo or such for popular end user CONFIG + AUTOEXEC files, for example, to help people when setting things up. I have a (very) few examples from years ago, but I never use them. In other words, maybe I'm overthinking it (again), but there's always room for improvement. Obviously if you don't want to have to reboot a lot, keep things separate where you can DEVLOAD drivers (only when needed) or unload TSRs (thus keep all of those at the end, where they won't clash with others). Like I've mentioned before, I don't use JEMM386 at all by default, so if I need it, I just LOAD it at runtime (and UNLOAD when done), thus saving me the (minor) compatibility hassle. Also, my last three TSRs can unload, e.g. CTMOUSE, NNANSI, SHCDX33F ... if I was desperate for more than 600 kb of conventional memory (unlikely). I was pondering one day, whether could be possible to reset DOS without resetting entire machine... it would make such switch much faster. Just some kind of full system reload - similar way as LOADLIN does it - when switching from DOS to Linux without reset. Booting up is already very fast, compared to every other OS. In fact, I think my (Lenovo) BIOS has some kind of switch that boots up slightly faster (can't remember, probably just smaller delay to hit F12 or whatever for General Setup or Select Boot Media). And here's the real reason I'm replying to this email: JEMM's FASTBOOT. It seems this was first implemented back in 2007. See README.TXT's Other Tools (6.2). 6.2. JEMFBHLP JEMFBHLP is a tiny device driver only needed if both FreeDOS and Jemm's FASTBOOT option are used. FreeDOS v1.0 does not provide the information that Jemm needs for FASTBOOT to work, so this driver tries to cure FreeDOS' incapability. It saves the values for interrupt vectors 15h and 19h at 0070h:0100h, which is the MS-DOS compatible way to do it. I was told that in FreeDOS v1.1 this problem has been fixed. Honestly, I never use this. It wasn't that crucial. I don't know how well it works, how bug-free it is. I vaguely think I did enable it way back on my RUFFIDEA disk #3, but again, I don't actively use that anymore. If anybody knows whether the helper tool is still needed (in FD 1.1), feel free to tell us. Yeah yeah, I could reboot and see what happens (crash!), but that doesn't interest me ... much. So no promises, test it yourself! :-P:-) N.B. It warns that (in addition to JEMFBHLP) you may have to set STACKS=0,0 and not move the XBDA. -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine
Hi, On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@twc.com wrote: First concern is making FreeDOS bootable, preferably with Syslinux. SYS.COM didn't work, even made the FAT32 file system unreadable. I need to save the first MB by dd from FreeBSD so as to be able to dd back in case the file system is messed up. This may not be the most useful reply. I wish it was easier for things like this as well, but it's not. Anyways, the only two (easy) ways I know of are RUFUS and UNetBootIn. The former requires Windows, and the latter ... dunno, Linux is a given, not sure about FreeBSD. Have you tried (or can you try) both of these two?? Of course, you could always convert a floppy .img to minimal .ISO and burn that to CD, if in a pinch, though I'm not sure that has what you want to run (too small, presumably, unless you only want to do small tests). -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine
Hi, On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Mateusz Viste mate...@viste.fr wrote: How do you transfer files between your main computer and your FreeDOS-powered machine ? FYI Recently I did make an extremely minimal bootable 1.44 MB floppy .img. (.ZIP'd it is less than 400 kb.) It has almost nothing on it, by design, except just enough to enable simple networking (packet driver + mTCP's DHCP + FTP). The point was that you would grab (via network) whatever pieces you need. For lack of a better name, I called it MetaDOS, thus it's meant to build your own floppy (or even indirectly create a hard disk image: fdisk, format, sys), esp. for use with certain emulators, tested successfully (Win7 64-bit) with VirtualBox 4.3.x and (admittedly old) QEMU 0.9.0 and 0.13.0. Maybe this was too obvious or yet another niche. The point was that there's very few files (approx. 25), so very little to constantly update, thus not too much of a burden to chase down and mirror full sources, etc. Oh, BTW, I made a small VISIT.BAT that will anonymously connect to popular FTP (mirror) sites, e.g. simtel, garbo, x2ftp, sac.sk, djgpp, ibiblio. Lots of good stuff there. I don't think a full (FreeDOS) BASE will fit on a single floppy. But I also don't think it's obvious what most people want or need either. We do probably still need a public and reliable floppy .img for FreeDOS. (For pete's sake, QEMU still links to ODIN 2005. And Jim Hall recently removed all of the unofficial floppy images from iBiblio, ugh.) Does literally anybody have any interest in this? Obviously the diehards will roll their own (if haven't already a dozen times over). Jim Michaels? Felix Miata? (I have no idea if a QEMU host binary exists for OS/2. It seems that BOCHS is supposed to work, but I don't actively know what [if any] packet driver would work there. For now, there are only three packet drivers included, and the last is untested. I just blindly assume it could work under VMware as well. Testing every emulator under the sun is infeasible. But obviously the more the merrier.) P.S. I'm also vaguely aware that MTools will allow you to insert files into a disk .img directly, hence no huge need for an emulator, if all you need is to add stuff. Not sure of equivalent DOS-hosted tools, the few I tried in the past were somewhat incomplete or buggy, but some do exist. Further testing or comments on that are also welcome. -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] mTCP's FTP and power management
Hi, I use exactly that - fdapm apmdos. Sorry for the incompatibility claim :) Since you sponteanously mentionned power management issues, I (naively) assumed you already knew about this specific problem. I understand it is not necessarily the case. I will collect some more data then next time I have access to this PC and send you these offlist. cheers Mateusz On August 5, 2014 11:32:41 PM GMT+02:00, Michael B. Brutman mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote: Before we claim that mTCP is not compatible with FDAPM, what FDAPM options are you using? fdapm apmdos has worked for me before. My notes are in power.txt. Mike -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Mateusz -- Sent from mobile mail. -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine
Okay. I got Necromancer's Dos Navigator and its integrated graphical FTP Browser to work - at least for the LAN. (With a connection to two external FTP sites I still get Connection Error 10051) To try this I run two VirtualBox FreeDOS guests. Guest No. 1: I used a plain FreeDOS 1.1 and booted Menu 1 (Jemmex, no EMS) I loaded the VirtualBox packet driver in AUTOEXEC.BAT LH PCNTPK INT=0x60 I downloaded NDN from http://ndn.muxe.com/download/ Version: 2010-03-23 - v2.31.5309 and copied it to C:\NDN I added C:\NDN to my PATH in AUTOEXEC.BAT (don't know exactly if this is necessary) I added a line to C:\NDN\FTP.INI mtcp [2,0,0,0] ftp://user:password@192.168.1.120 I configured a minimal C:\FDOS\WATTCP.CFG my_IP = dhcp gateway = 192.168.1.1 (The line SET WATTCP.CFG=C:\FDOS has to be in AUTOEXEC.BAT) Guest No. 2 I made sure it has the IP address 192.168.1.120 I started mTCP ftpsrv That's it. In Guest No. 1 I start NDN. Then I hit F10 to get into the menu bar. I choose Manager and Change drive left (or just hit ALT-F1) I choose #: FTP-Server I go down the menu until the line mtcp is highlighted and then I hit ENTER. Now NDN connects to mTCP ftpsrv. :-) Am 05.08.2014 um 21:46 schrieb Ulrich my.gr...@mailbox.org: Am 05.08.2014 um 21:22 schrieb Mateusz Viste mate...@viste.fr: On 08/05/2014 11:47 AM, Ulrich wrote: Does the FTP of NDN really work with plain FreeDOS? After reading the discussion here http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/mix_entry.php?id=3628 I have the impression it only works under Win32. Please correct me if I am wrong. I'm sorry to tell you that you are wrong :) Although I couldn't (yet) get it working reliably on my PC, I was able to connect to my FTP server one time, and list its content, Thanks for the correction. For me it showed Connection Error Socket error 10051 Error code #10051 each time I tried to connect to a FTP server. So I give it another try too. Thanks a lot! :-) -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Clarification
Hi, I myself just wrote: I once came across a FDAPM compatibility issue with something else: Bret's USB driver for keyboard. (I have reported the issue to Bret.) It has just occurred to me that this sounds as if I'm finding fault with Bret Johnson's work. So, to clarify matters: actually the opposite is true. I'm a big fan *and* a regular user of Bret's drivers. That's what I've been using every day for years to write and read memory sticks. Credit given where credit is due. Cheers, Marcos -- Marcos Fávero Florence de Barros Campinas, Brazil -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@twc.com wrote: First concern is making FreeDOS bootable, preferably with Syslinux. SYS.COM didn't work, even made the FAT32 file system unreadable. I need to save the first MB by dd from FreeBSD so as to be able to dd back in case the file system is messed up. Rugxulo responded: This may not be the most useful reply. I wish it was easier for things like this as well, but it's not. Anyways, the only two (easy) ways I know of are RUFUS and UNetBootIn. The former requires Windows, and the latter ... dunno, Linux is a given, not sure about FreeBSD. Have you tried (or can you try) both of these two?? Of course, you could always convert a floppy .img to minimal .ISO and burn that to CD, if in a pinch, though I'm not sure that has what you want to run (too small, presumably, unless you only want to do small tests). I never used RUFUS or UNetBootIn, don't know if I could. But FreeDOS 1.1 is already installed on the USB stick but not directly bootable. I can boot FreeDOS 1.1 from grub4dos but not from grub 2. I can boot grub4dos and some other things I added from modified System Rescue CD USB-stick installation. I also have old Linux Slackware 13.0, FreeBSD 8.2 and NetBSD 5.1_STABLE, and Lilo, on a 40 GB IDE hard drive now in a Sabrent enclosure with IDE and SATA internal interfaces and USB 2.0 and eSATA external interfaces. Lilo menu also includes Plop and grub4dos, and grub 2 floppy image, which is 7 MB, can be booted from grub4dos. I was never able to install FreeDOS 1.1 from DOSBox. Since not many computers nowadays use FreeDOS or any other DOS as their only or primary OS, I'd like to be able to install FreeDOS from Linux or BSD. Maybe even MS-Windows or Mac OS X, though that would not be applicable in my case. Tom -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How do you transfer files to your FreeDOS machine
Depends how many library dependencies it has. And if it uses Linux/win32 specific calls. -- -chris Computer Consultant Repair Tech Digitalatoll Solutions Group (Tawhaki Software) http://digitalatoll.com/ http://tawakisoft.com/ Cell: 916-612-6904 Digitalatoll Social Network http://digitalatoll.com/web/social_net/ Webpage, Email, Cloud FTP Hosting, Custom programming, Computer Repair, and Data Recovery On Aug 4, 2014 4:46 AM, Angel M Alganza a...@ugr.es wrote: Hi, On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 12:18:58PM +0200, Mateusz Viste wrote: [...] Only problem is to have a humanly convenient way to use FTP from within FreeDOS. How hard (if at all possible) would it be to port lftp to FreeDOS? From the Description page on its web site: LFTP is a sophisticated file transfer program with command line interface. It supports FTP, HTTP, FISH, SFTP, HTTPS and FTPS protocols. GNU Readline library is used for input. (http://lftp.yar.ru/desc.html) And it's very humanly convenient, in my opinion. :) Wouldn't it be great to have such a wonderful tool for file transfer on FreeDOS? Cheers, Ángel -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
