Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work
It occurs to me that at least some of the CD players have D: hard-coded as the drive location. If you had a suggestion for which that was configurable, that might help. On 6/3/2015 9:16 PM, John Hupp wrote: > With mpxplay now working, I am continuing with the quest to get a CD > player working. > > I temporarily installed a Win 98 hard drive on this machine and got > the sound card working in Windows. I also established how to connect > the standard 4-pin audio CD connector on the CD-ROM drive with the > non-standard 3-pin connector on the sound card, and CD Player then > worked in Windows. > > But when I returned to FreeDOS with this now-known-good cable > connection, my two CD players still failed just as before. > > I'd like to test with different CD players than CD-V and ACP. > Suggestions? > > On 6/3/2015 6:30 PM, John Hupp wrote: >> It turns out that mpxplay was not hanging as I thought. It was >> instead taking 30 seconds to load. >> >> It turns out further that the precise format of the BLASTER variable >> is important here. The Media Vision installer created SET >> BLASTER=A220 D1 I5 H3 T4. But mpxplay was choking on the fact that >> D1 was before I5. When I edited the string to SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 >> H3 T4 instead, the player loaded in a second or two! >> >> == >> >> So now all I need to do is get a CD player working. >> >> On 6/2/2015 3:16 PM, John Hupp wrote: >>> I have sound working now with a Media Vision Jazz16 card (aka Pro >>> Sonic 16, an ISA PNP card) and DOOM, setting up the game to use the >>> card's SoundBlaster emulation feature. >>> >>> The Jazz directory also has a playfile.exe utility and a few test >>> WAV's, and these work. >>> >>> But so far I have gotten nowhere with playing mp3's or CD's. I'm >>> starting with some apps that worked for me under FreeDOS 0.9 and/or >>> 1.0. >>> >>> Mpxplay just hangs the system immediately, before anything appears >>> onscreen. I downloaded the MPXP160D.ZIP version. >>> >>> Likewise I have not gotten any audio CD player to work. I tried ACP >>> and CD-V (v19) so far. ACP's screen appears with a track list, but >>> hitting enter to to start Playing the first track does nothing. CD-V >>> simply generates an "Invalid media!" error. (I could add that the >>> CD setup is fine for data CD's.) >>> >>> Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work? What about a CD >>> player that's known to work with FD 1.1? >>> >>> I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item >>> at boot. >> > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Getting any CD player to work
With mpxplay now working, I am continuing with the quest to get a CD player working. I temporarily installed a Win 98 hard drive on this machine and got the sound card working in Windows. I also established how to connect the standard 4-pin audio CD connector on the CD-ROM drive with the non-standard 3-pin connector on the sound card, and CD Player then worked in Windows. But when I returned to FreeDOS with this now-known-good cable connection, my two CD players still failed just as before. I'd like to test with different CD players than CD-V and ACP. Suggestions? On 6/3/2015 6:30 PM, John Hupp wrote: > It turns out that mpxplay was not hanging as I thought. It was > instead taking 30 seconds to load. > > It turns out further that the precise format of the BLASTER variable > is important here. The Media Vision installer created SET > BLASTER=A220 D1 I5 H3 T4. But mpxplay was choking on the fact that D1 > was before I5. When I edited the string to SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H3 > T4 instead, the player loaded in a second or two! > > == > > So now all I need to do is get a CD player working. > > On 6/2/2015 3:16 PM, John Hupp wrote: >> I have sound working now with a Media Vision Jazz16 card (aka Pro >> Sonic 16, an ISA PNP card) and DOOM, setting up the game to use the >> card's SoundBlaster emulation feature. >> >> The Jazz directory also has a playfile.exe utility and a few test >> WAV's, and these work. >> >> But so far I have gotten nowhere with playing mp3's or CD's. I'm >> starting with some apps that worked for me under FreeDOS 0.9 and/or 1.0. >> >> Mpxplay just hangs the system immediately, before anything appears >> onscreen. I downloaded the MPXP160D.ZIP version. >> >> Likewise I have not gotten any audio CD player to work. I tried ACP >> and CD-V (v19) so far. ACP's screen appears with a track list, but >> hitting enter to to start Playing the first track does nothing. CD-V >> simply generates an "Invalid media!" error. (I could add that the CD >> setup is fine for data CD's.) >> >> Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work? What about a CD player >> that's known to work with FD 1.1? >> >> I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at >> boot. > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Avoid the analog audio CD cable?
I plowed all the way through the (interesting) article but didn't read anything that seemed to help me. Most of it is about the Pro Audio Spectrum (PAS) lineup. In the meantime I installed a Win 98 hard drive on this machine and got the sound card working in Windows. But I found out that "digital audio extraction" does not work -- it required the analog audio CD cable. Digital audio extraction must have debuted in Win Me or XP. On the bright side, I got the analog audio CD cable working in Windows. So now I know that I have a good hardware hookup. But when I returned to FreeDOS with this now-known-good cable connection, my two CD players still failed just as before. On 6/3/2015 8:38 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: > I've been following this thread for some reason, and I finally figured > out why. I think I had a similar "multimedia PC" my parents bought > for me about 20 years ago (486SX 33MHz, 4MB RAM, 200MB HD, 2X CD-ROM > and Sound Card when these were still considered optional, DOS > 6.22/Windows 3.11). And I remember getting Front Page Sports Football > Pro 95, Wolfenstein, and Doom working on this. > > Anyways, someone on VOGONS did a ton of research [0] on similar sound > cards. I suggest reading it. > > [0] http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=27943 > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:58 PM, John Hupp wrote: >> I'm still working on trying to get audio CD's playing with this sound >> card, a Media Vision Pro Sonic 16 (Jazz16 chipset). (The >> earlier-reported other problems have now all been solved. I have sound >> in DOOM and in mpxplayer.) >> >> It occurred to me that this might be a cabling issue. The card has a >> 3-pin audio CD connector instead of the usual 4-pin. But since standard >> 4-wire cables normally join the two ground wires and connect them to a >> single pin so that only 3 pins are used, I thought I could make this >> work easily by just moving a wire in the plug module. >> >> But I have now tried connecting the wires to the sound card in every >> combination (I think), and the two CD players I have been testing with >> continue to fail in the same way. CD-V complains "Invalid media!" and >> won't even start. ACP starts, reads and displays all the track >> information, and acts as if it is playing something, but I get no sound. >> >> In case it adds anything, this sound card was often packaged with a >> Philips 206 CD-ROM drive. >> >> I have not found a pinout for the audio CD connection on either the >> sound card or the CD-ROM drive. >> >> My latest thought, however: Does FreeDOS and/or a certain CD player >> support sending the sound digitally to the sound card over the ribbon >> cable and the PC bus, the way modern Windows does it? In this case I >> can dispense with the cable. (I tried just disconnecting the cable and >> my two current CD players behaved just as before.) -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Avoid the analog audio CD cable?
I've been following this thread for some reason, and I finally figured out why. I think I had a similar "multimedia PC" my parents bought for me about 20 years ago (486SX 33MHz, 4MB RAM, 200MB HD, 2X CD-ROM and Sound Card when these were still considered optional, DOS 6.22/Windows 3.11). And I remember getting Front Page Sports Football Pro 95, Wolfenstein, and Doom working on this. Anyways, someone on VOGONS did a ton of research [0] on similar sound cards. I suggest reading it. [0] http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=27943 On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:58 PM, John Hupp wrote: > I'm still working on trying to get audio CD's playing with this sound > card, a Media Vision Pro Sonic 16 (Jazz16 chipset). (The > earlier-reported other problems have now all been solved. I have sound > in DOOM and in mpxplayer.) > > It occurred to me that this might be a cabling issue. The card has a > 3-pin audio CD connector instead of the usual 4-pin. But since standard > 4-wire cables normally join the two ground wires and connect them to a > single pin so that only 3 pins are used, I thought I could make this > work easily by just moving a wire in the plug module. > > But I have now tried connecting the wires to the sound card in every > combination (I think), and the two CD players I have been testing with > continue to fail in the same way. CD-V complains "Invalid media!" and > won't even start. ACP starts, reads and displays all the track > information, and acts as if it is playing something, but I get no sound. > > In case it adds anything, this sound card was often packaged with a > Philips 206 CD-ROM drive. > > I have not found a pinout for the audio CD connection on either the > sound card or the CD-ROM drive. > > My latest thought, however: Does FreeDOS and/or a certain CD player > support sending the sound digitally to the sound card over the ribbon > cable and the PC bus, the way modern Windows does it? In this case I > can dispense with the cable. (I tried just disconnecting the cable and > my two current CD players behaved just as before.) > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Avoid the analog audio CD cable?
I'm still working on trying to get audio CD's playing with this sound card, a Media Vision Pro Sonic 16 (Jazz16 chipset). (The earlier-reported other problems have now all been solved. I have sound in DOOM and in mpxplayer.) It occurred to me that this might be a cabling issue. The card has a 3-pin audio CD connector instead of the usual 4-pin. But since standard 4-wire cables normally join the two ground wires and connect them to a single pin so that only 3 pins are used, I thought I could make this work easily by just moving a wire in the plug module. But I have now tried connecting the wires to the sound card in every combination (I think), and the two CD players I have been testing with continue to fail in the same way. CD-V complains "Invalid media!" and won't even start. ACP starts, reads and displays all the track information, and acts as if it is playing something, but I get no sound. In case it adds anything, this sound card was often packaged with a Philips 206 CD-ROM drive. I have not found a pinout for the audio CD connection on either the sound card or the CD-ROM drive. My latest thought, however: Does FreeDOS and/or a certain CD player support sending the sound digitally to the sound card over the ribbon cable and the PC bus, the way modern Windows does it? In this case I can dispense with the cable. (I tried just disconnecting the cable and my two current CD players behaved just as before.) -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work
It turns out that mpxplay was not hanging as I thought. It was instead taking 30 seconds to load. It turns out further that the precise format of the BLASTER variable is important here. The Media Vision installer created SET BLASTER=A220 D1 I5 H3 T4. But mpxplay was choking on the fact that D1 was before I5. When I edited the string to SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H3 T4 instead, the player loaded in a second or two! == So now all I need to do is get a CD player working. On 6/2/2015 3:16 PM, John Hupp wrote: > I have sound working now with a Media Vision Jazz16 card (aka Pro > Sonic 16, an ISA PNP card) and DOOM, setting up the game to use the > card's SoundBlaster emulation feature. > > The Jazz directory also has a playfile.exe utility and a few test > WAV's, and these work. > > But so far I have gotten nowhere with playing mp3's or CD's. I'm > starting with some apps that worked for me under FreeDOS 0.9 and/or 1.0. > > Mpxplay just hangs the system immediately, before anything appears > onscreen. I downloaded the MPXP160D.ZIP version. > > Likewise I have not gotten any audio CD player to work. I tried ACP > and CD-V (v19) so far. ACP's screen appears with a track list, but > hitting enter to to start Playing the first track does nothing. CD-V > simply generates an "Invalid media!" error. (I could add that the CD > setup is fine for data CD's.) > > Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work? What about a CD player > that's known to work with FD 1.1? > > I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at > boot. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
Hi again, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > > I've quit working on it for a while. Tried every address and interupt I can > think of. > None work I think the chip is in off mode and needs to be turned on by > windows. > These sound drivers work on sound blaster cards but not on a laptop with ESS. Just for completeness, here's two driver sites that sound promising. If you have some extra hours one day and want to go digging around (and fiddling, natch), take a look: 1). http://www.mdgx.com/sbdrv/ 2). http://files.mpoli.fi/hardware/SOUND/ N.B. The second site has a (very small) "ESS/" subdir, but it does have Win 3.x drivers (which presumably means DOS-friendly). -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Getting mpxplay and any CD player to work
A step forward on one front. Mpxplay was not really hanging -- it was taking 30 seconds to start! I ran "mpxplay -sct" and it identified a SBP card (Soundblaster Pro). I thought changing SoundcardName=AUTO to SoundcardName=SBP in mpxplay.ini might fix the slow start, but that does not help as far as I can tell. It seems that card detection is not what is slowing it down. Any tips for normalizing the mpxplay startup time? > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:20 PM, John Hupp wrote: >> I saw little in mpxplay.ini that seemed like it was capable of >> immediately hanging the system. I commented out UseLFN to no effect. I >> also changed SoundCardName from AUTO to S16, and mpxplay reported that >> it could not initialize the card or a message to that effect. Then I >> changed that to SBP and it hung as before. >> >> On 6/2/2015 4:59 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: >>> Also, the cable is needed only if the player uses the CD-player audio >>> capabilities. MPXPLAY does not, it reads and processes audio tracks >>> himself instead. >>> >>> You will need to fiddle with your mpxplay.ini file for sure. But as for >>> a 'CD Player that works with FreeDOS', I'd say that pretty much any >>> player should work. Have you tried any yet, beside mpxplay? >>> >>> Mateusz >>> >>> >>> >>> On 02/06/2015 22:42, John Hupp wrote: On 6/2/2015 4:16 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 6/2/2015 12:16 PM, John Hupp wrote: >> Are there tips/tricks to get mpxplay to work? What about a CD player >> that's known to work with FD 1.1? >> >> I'm using a default FD 1.1 setup and selecting the first menu item at >> boot. >> -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > >> For the Dell sound, its a chip soldered on the main board. > > You could check with PCISLEEP for DOS or LSPCI for Linux or any > similar tool for Windows what chip it is. Presumably by running "pcisleep l"? http://ericauer.cosmodata.virtuaserver.com.br/soft/pcisleep-2005mar12.zip IIRC, my old P4 says "Creative", but it didn't tell me enough to know more than that. You'd have to search further online: http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ I don't know if that directly helped me or not. I don't remember the details, but my P4's card is apparently "SB Live!" (aka, EMU10k1), which is not (directly) DOS friendly! There are various "hardware detection" programs out in the wild, but I just don't know which ones are any good. (I've been saying for years that FD "UTIL"'s COMPINFO needs serious fixing.) Maybe this one is still semi-reliable? http://www.navsoft.cz/nssi060.exe ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utildiag/nssi060.zip Any better ideas? -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
To extend the audio hardware supported by DOSSound, there is also support for Soundblaster cards and their emulations. DOSSound first checks whether a soundblaster card is installed. If this is the case it will use that and not check for AC'97 controllers. It uses I/O address 220h, interrupt 7, and DMA1 for 8bit and DMA5 for 16bit operation. The interrupt used can be changed by the command line option /I5 to interrupt 5. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi again, > > > http://www.georgpotthast.de/dossound/ > > Thanks, interesting :-) > > > For the Dell sound, its a chip soldered on the main board. > > You could check with PCISLEEP for DOS or LSPCI for Linux or any > similar tool for Windows what chip it is. The DOSSOUND website > says, it is a WAV player for some AC97 sound chips, so I guess > loading it does not help DOS games which expect SoundBlasters? > > I remember that I have a small tool for some VIA mainboard chip > which claims to support SoundBlaster: The tool just activates > that mode. However, only the official DOS driver also has some > software simulation of Adlib / OPL3 which you can load as TSR. > By using the activation tool, you only get basic SB D/A output. > > > DOSSound currently supports the following AC'97 controllers: > > > > Intel ICH-ICH7 and compatible (not ICH8-ICH10) > > VIA 82686, 8233, 8235 and 8237 > > SIS 7012 controller > > > > untested: > > AMD 768, 8111 > > nVidia NForce 1-3 > > > > High Definition Audio controllers are currently not supported. > > By the way: > > > I think it works like these stupid win printers; it waits for > > windows to start it up. After all dos is dead isn't it - ha. > > I will have to search for this dossound. It might be the answer. > > That is not the only problem. Winmodems and Win GDI printers etc. > often do not support "normal" command languages. Instead, there > is only a proprietary interface to some low level device. In the > Winmodem case, this is often a simple "soundcard". All the smart > things to turn data into tones and back have to be done by some > Windows (or Linux) driver, so just starting Windows is not enough > to "activate" the modem for DOS. For printers, your mileage may > vary - they may at least support plain text but that might indeed > depend on some Windows driver "activating" the printer at boot. > > Regards, Eric > > > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
Hi again, > http://www.georgpotthast.de/dossound/ Thanks, interesting :-) > For the Dell sound, its a chip soldered on the main board. You could check with PCISLEEP for DOS or LSPCI for Linux or any similar tool for Windows what chip it is. The DOSSOUND website says, it is a WAV player for some AC97 sound chips, so I guess loading it does not help DOS games which expect SoundBlasters? I remember that I have a small tool for some VIA mainboard chip which claims to support SoundBlaster: The tool just activates that mode. However, only the official DOS driver also has some software simulation of Adlib / OPL3 which you can load as TSR. By using the activation tool, you only get basic SB D/A output. > DOSSound currently supports the following AC'97 controllers: > > Intel ICH-ICH7 and compatible (not ICH8-ICH10) > VIA 82686, 8233, 8235 and 8237 > SIS 7012 controller > > untested: > AMD 768, 8111 > nVidia NForce 1-3 > > High Definition Audio controllers are currently not supported. By the way: > I think it works like these stupid win printers; it waits for > windows to start it up. After all dos is dead isn't it - ha. > I will have to search for this dossound. It might be the answer. That is not the only problem. Winmodems and Win GDI printers etc. often do not support "normal" command languages. Instead, there is only a proprietary interface to some low level device. In the Winmodem case, this is often a simple "soundcard". All the smart things to turn data into tones and back have to be done by some Windows (or Linux) driver, so just starting Windows is not enough to "activate" the modem for DOS. For printers, your mileage may vary - they may at least support plain text but that might indeed depend on some Windows driver "activating" the printer at boot. Regards, Eric -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] uHex v1.0.3
Hello folks, This quick message to announce a new release of uHex, my hex editor targeted to DOS and x86 (which also happen to work on other systems, but who cares about non-DOS systems anyway). Big credits go to Alexey Voskov, who contributed some very nice patches to this release of uHex. Now, here is the changelog. uHex v1.0.3 [03 Jun 2015] - Fixed CGA/MDA/HGC card support (screen height was wrongly detected), - Fixed a buffer reusage that was making the search routine to miss matches, - Linux port uses the '-' prefix for command line options instead of '/', - Added a read cache to limit disk I/O (nice when using files on floppies), - Color highlight for unsaved changes (kindly contributed by Alexey Voskov), - Video output uses direct memory access instead of BIOS (Alexey Voskov), - uHex port to the win32 platform (Alexey Voskov), - Lots of micro optimizations to make the code faster and more compact. uHex is available on its website, as usual: http://uhex.sourceforge.net Mateusz -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
On 6/3/2015 10:49 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > Hi Dale and Don, > >> I have a Compaq Armada (Laptop) with a ESS1869 - I tried every >> SB/ESS driver I could find then by chance I loaded DOSSOUND and it >> worked. For my modern desktops with the oldest PCI cards (mostly ESS >> or Yamaha) I can only get sound through the internal speaker, but >> MPXPLAY & QView work through the lineout - I think any successful >> configuration will be a compromise. > What exactly is DOSSOUND and what does it do? And for Dale: > > It is important to know what card and chip exactly causes the trouble. > ESS made many of them. I agree that you might find the solution in some > "turn chip on" tool, but that, too, will depend on which chip and card > exactly you have. If your card is ISA with plug and play support, you > may need the general (Intel?) plug and play drivers for DOS to activate > and configure the plug and play things it at boot :-) Back in ISA days, > PnP simply meant "auto-select non-colliding I/O port bases, IRQ etc.". > > Cheers, Eric That's the Intel ICU (ISA Configuration Utility). -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Zip vs Pkzip
Hi again,
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:56 AM, Don Flowers wrote:
>
> Thanks Mateusz, I will report this to Info-Zip
I don't know why you would contact them. It's probably not their bug.
In fact, I don't think it's a bug at all! Also, keep in mind that we
have no idea whether they still "maintain" (esp. for DOS) any of their
tools anymore. They haven't had a release since 2009!
You still didn't tell us which version you're using. There are both
16-bit and 32-bit DOS builds (unzip.exe and unzip32.exe). Try "unzip
-v" to show you which is which. Most people are using 5.52 or 6.00 by
now. I know I am.
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 5:55 AM, Don Flowers wrote:
>>
>> I am currently running kubuntu 14.04 , 14.10 and Zorin OS 9 (14.04) but
>> this started as early as 12.04. It is not the mirror per se - I can go back
>> to what I thought was a bad download and (pk)unzip it and it turns out to be
>> complete.
The Simtel mirror I've been using lately (lots, without any errors) is
"ftp.sunet.se/pub/simtelnet/msdos".
You can find Unzip 5.52 and 6.00 binaries for DOS ("x3") at various places:
1a). ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/msdos/unz552x3.exe
1b). ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/msdos/unz600x3.exe
2a).
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/file/info-zip/unzip/old/unz552x3.exe
2b).
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/file/info-zip/unzip/unz600x3.exe
3). ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/pack/unz552x3.exe
Generally speaking, if you download a file, it may or may not have
been modified by whomever you're grabbing it from. Sometimes that
means an innocuous .ZIP comment, but otherwise it could also mean
something like an unpopular compression method (Shrink? Reduce? Bzip2?
LZMA?) or even accidental (official) errors or various other quirks
(filename case or extra fields or whatnot). So, while it's not 100%
foolproof, you should check the checksum (often crc32 or md5sum) of
the actual archive file itself. The internal CRC32 for a single file
is better than nothing but still very weak.
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/file/md5sum/md5sumx.zip
What I'm trying to say is that I want you to point me to a few of
these "corrupted" files. Specifically, what URL (not just mirror or
individual filename)? And then I want you to run "md5sum file.zip",
and tell me what it says. And don't forget to tell me what "unzip -v"
(under DOS) says as well.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
Hi again, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > > What I need for my Dell is a sound blaster pro driver that works on > an ESS chip without windows being there. Windows turns the chip on > somehow. The programs are for DOS running under windows. None of the > drivers are for dos alone, even if they claim to be. Add windows to > the background and they work but who wants that. Yet another program to try would be something like Impulse Tracker. It had various sound drivers back in the day. I need to test that myself on my old Dell P4, just for curiosity's sake. ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/sound/it214v5.zip Actually, here's some more programs to try, too. Go ahead and give them a whirl, and tell us if any of these actually work for you. ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/sound/mp102.zip ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/sound/megam166.zip P.S. Although the license is (AFAIK) unknown / undecided [eh??], Impulse Tracker has actually been (loosely speaking) "opened" these days. I'm not sure if anyone here is active enough to care, though. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > > What I need for my Dell is a sound blaster pro driver that works on > an ESS chip without windows being there. Windows turns the chip on > somehow. The programs are for DOS running under windows. None of the > drivers are for dos alone, even if they claim to be. Add windows to > the background and they work but who wants that. But what kinds of things are you trying to play on it?? What file formats or programs?? Are you just looking for a universal driver that emulates ye olde SB16 entirely (100%), thus working with (almost) all "classic" DOS software?? Allegro 4.2.2 was the last DJGPP release, AFAIK. One of their examples was PLAY.EXE, which could play *.mid or *.voc or *.wav. I'm not sure if you need an additional PATCHES.DAT file (converted by pat2dat on Soundfont .sf2 or whatever) for your particular machine. Heck, maybe your machine isn't (properly) supported, dunno. All I'm saying is that one of the few well-supported libraries / toolsets was Allegro, so (generally speaking) it is one of the foremost things to test if you're trying to see if your sound hardware works under DOS. (Actually, I don't remember if PLAY.EXE was broken / regressed since Allegro 3.1.2. I had put the older .EXE on my RUFFIDEA, and it worked on my old AWE64, but that was years ago. No idea if either will truly work for you, but it's worth a shot. Well, 4.2.2's version works fine under DOSBox [SB16/OPL3], at least.) http://na.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/djgpp/current/v2tk/allegro/ http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/dl/ofc/current/v2tk/allegro/all422b.zip/allegro/bin/play.exe A quick run of PLAY.EXE (without filename) shows the following supported hardware: === Sound code test program for Allegro 4.2.2, djgpp By Shawn Hargreaves, 2007 Usage: play [digital driver [midi driver]] files.(mid|voc|wav) Digital drivers: ESC - Soundscape ESS - ESS AudioDrive WSS - Windows Sound System SB16- Sound Blaster 16 SBP - Sound Blaster Pro SB20- Sound Blaster 2.0 SB15- Sound Blaster 1.5 SB10- Sound Blaster 1.0 MIDI drivers: AWE - AWE32/EMU8000 DIGI- DIGMID OPL3- Adlib (OPL3) OPLX- Adlib (dual OPL2) OPL2- Adlib (OPL2) MPU - MPU-401 SB - SB MIDI interface If you don't specify the card, Allegro will auto-detect (ie. guess :-) === -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
Thank you On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 11:10:43 -0400 Don Flowers writes: > http://www.georgpotthast.de/dossound/ > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Dale E Sterner > wrote: > > > For the Dell sound, its a chip soldered on the main board. > > I think it works like these stupid win printers; it waits for > > windows to start it up. After all dos is dead isn't it - ha. > > I will have to search for this dossound. It might be the answer. > > > > > > cheers > > DS > > > > > > > > On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 16:49:13 +0200 Eric Auer > writes: > > > > > > Hi Dale and Don, > > > > > > > I have a Compaq Armada (Laptop) with a ESS1869 - I tried every > > > > SB/ESS driver I could find then by chance I loaded DOSSOUND > and it > > > > worked. For my modern desktops with the oldest PCI cards > (mostly > > > ESS > > > > or Yamaha) I can only get sound through the internal speaker, > but > > > > MPXPLAY & QView work through the lineout - I think any > successful > > > > configuration will be a compromise. > > > > > > What exactly is DOSSOUND and what does it do? And for Dale: > > > > > > It is important to know what card and chip exactly causes the > > > trouble. > > > ESS made many of them. I agree that you might find the solution > in > > > some > > > "turn chip on" tool, but that, too, will depend on which chip > and > > > card > > > exactly you have. If your card is ISA with plug and play > support, > > > you > > > may need the general (Intel?) plug and play drivers for DOS to > > > activate > > > and configure the plug and play things it at boot :-) Back in > ISA > > > days, > > > PnP simply meant "auto-select non-colliding I/O port bases, IRQ > > > etc.". > > > > > > Cheers, Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > - > > > ___ > > > Freedos-user mailing list > > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > > Protect what matters > > > Floods can happen anywhere. Learn your risk and find an agent > today. > > > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/556f154de186c154d0a57mp03duc > > > > > > > > > ** > > >From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry > > http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 > > *** > > > > > > > > > - - > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > ** >From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** Old School Yearbook Pics View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School & Year. Look Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/556f1bfdcbc2f1bfd100fst04duc -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
http://www.georgpotthast.de/dossound/ On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > For the Dell sound, its a chip soldered on the main board. > I think it works like these stupid win printers; it waits for > windows to start it up. After all dos is dead isn't it - ha. > I will have to search for this dossound. It might be the answer. > > > cheers > DS > > > > On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 16:49:13 +0200 Eric Auer writes: > > > > Hi Dale and Don, > > > > > I have a Compaq Armada (Laptop) with a ESS1869 - I tried every > > > SB/ESS driver I could find then by chance I loaded DOSSOUND and it > > > worked. For my modern desktops with the oldest PCI cards (mostly > > ESS > > > or Yamaha) I can only get sound through the internal speaker, but > > > MPXPLAY & QView work through the lineout - I think any successful > > > configuration will be a compromise. > > > > What exactly is DOSSOUND and what does it do? And for Dale: > > > > It is important to know what card and chip exactly causes the > > trouble. > > ESS made many of them. I agree that you might find the solution in > > some > > "turn chip on" tool, but that, too, will depend on which chip and > > card > > exactly you have. If your card is ISA with plug and play support, > > you > > may need the general (Intel?) plug and play drivers for DOS to > > activate > > and configure the plug and play things it at boot :-) Back in ISA > > days, > > PnP simply meant "auto-select non-colliding I/O port bases, IRQ > > etc.". > > > > Cheers, Eric > > > > > > > - > - > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > Protect what matters > > Floods can happen anywhere. Learn your risk and find an agent today. > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/556f154de186c154d0a57mp03duc > > > > > ** > >From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry > http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 > *** > > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
For the Dell sound, its a chip soldered on the main board. I think it works like these stupid win printers; it waits for windows to start it up. After all dos is dead isn't it - ha. I will have to search for this dossound. It might be the answer. cheers DS On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 16:49:13 +0200 Eric Auer writes: > > Hi Dale and Don, > > > I have a Compaq Armada (Laptop) with a ESS1869 - I tried every > > SB/ESS driver I could find then by chance I loaded DOSSOUND and it > > worked. For my modern desktops with the oldest PCI cards (mostly > ESS > > or Yamaha) I can only get sound through the internal speaker, but > > MPXPLAY & QView work through the lineout - I think any successful > > configuration will be a compromise. > > What exactly is DOSSOUND and what does it do? And for Dale: > > It is important to know what card and chip exactly causes the > trouble. > ESS made many of them. I agree that you might find the solution in > some > "turn chip on" tool, but that, too, will depend on which chip and > card > exactly you have. If your card is ISA with plug and play support, > you > may need the general (Intel?) plug and play drivers for DOS to > activate > and configure the plug and play things it at boot :-) Back in ISA > days, > PnP simply meant "auto-select non-colliding I/O port bases, IRQ > etc.". > > Cheers, Eric > > > - - > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > Protect what matters > Floods can happen anywhere. Learn your risk and find an agent today. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/556f154de186c154d0a57mp03duc > ** >From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
Hi Dale and Don, > I have a Compaq Armada (Laptop) with a ESS1869 - I tried every > SB/ESS driver I could find then by chance I loaded DOSSOUND and it > worked. For my modern desktops with the oldest PCI cards (mostly ESS > or Yamaha) I can only get sound through the internal speaker, but > MPXPLAY & QView work through the lineout - I think any successful > configuration will be a compromise. What exactly is DOSSOUND and what does it do? And for Dale: It is important to know what card and chip exactly causes the trouble. ESS made many of them. I agree that you might find the solution in some "turn chip on" tool, but that, too, will depend on which chip and card exactly you have. If your card is ISA with plug and play support, you may need the general (Intel?) plug and play drivers for DOS to activate and configure the plug and play things it at boot :-) Back in ISA days, PnP simply meant "auto-select non-colliding I/O port bases, IRQ etc.". Cheers, Eric -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
I have a Compaq Armada (Laptop) with a ESS1869 - I tried every SB/ESS driver I could find then by chance I loaded DOSSOUND and it worked. For my modern desktops with the oldest PCI cards (mostly ESS or Yamaha) I can only get sound through the internal speaker, but MPXPLAY & QView work through the lineout - I think any successful configuration will be a compromise. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > I've quit working on it for a while. Tried every address and interupt I > can think of. > None work I think the chip is in off mode and needs to be turned on by > windows. > These sound drivers work on sound blaster cards but not on a laptop with > ESS. > > > cheers > DS > > > On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 16:18:52 +0200 Eric Auer writes: > > > > Hi! > > > > > What I need for my Dell is a sound blaster pro driver that works > > on > > > an ESS chip without windows being there. Windows turns the chip on > > > > > somehow. The programs are for DOS running under windows. None of > > the > > > drivers are for dos alone, even if they claim to be. Add windows > > to > > > the background and they work but who wants that. > > > > There are many different ESS chips, so more information is needed: > > > > http://support.toshiba.com/support/viewContentDetail?contentId=107869 > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensoniq_AudioPCI > > > > http://www.daqarta.com/ess.htm > > > > What would also help is a tool to detect I/O base, IRQ and DMA > > details > > without hanging. No matter which card you have, often one or several > > of those aspects go wrong. In particular with PCI cards trying to be > > compatible to ISA SoundBlaster standards of any type, failing DMA > > and > > mis-routed IRQ signals are a common source of havoc. In some cases, > > it > > even is a hardware problem (a new mainboard cannot make PCI stuff > > look > > sufficiently ISA compatible any more). With SB Live, SB PCI and the > > ESS > > Ensoniq Audio PCI, the SoundBlaster compatibility even is a > > completely > > fake driver generated virtual hardware experience in the first > > place. > > > > Regards, Eric > > > > > > > > > - > - > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > Protect what matters > > Floods can happen anywhere. Learn your risk and find an agent today. > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/556f0deaaf252dea23d8mp07duc > > > > > ** > >From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry > http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 > *** > > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
I've quit working on it for a while. Tried every address and interupt I can think of. None work I think the chip is in off mode and needs to be turned on by windows. These sound drivers work on sound blaster cards but not on a laptop with ESS. cheers DS On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 16:18:52 +0200 Eric Auer writes: > > Hi! > > > What I need for my Dell is a sound blaster pro driver that works > on > > an ESS chip without windows being there. Windows turns the chip on > > > somehow. The programs are for DOS running under windows. None of > the > > drivers are for dos alone, even if they claim to be. Add windows > to > > the background and they work but who wants that. > > There are many different ESS chips, so more information is needed: > > http://support.toshiba.com/support/viewContentDetail?contentId=107869 > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensoniq_AudioPCI > > http://www.daqarta.com/ess.htm > > What would also help is a tool to detect I/O base, IRQ and DMA > details > without hanging. No matter which card you have, often one or several > of those aspects go wrong. In particular with PCI cards trying to be > compatible to ISA SoundBlaster standards of any type, failing DMA > and > mis-routed IRQ signals are a common source of havoc. In some cases, > it > even is a hardware problem (a new mainboard cannot make PCI stuff > look > sufficiently ISA compatible any more). With SB Live, SB PCI and the > ESS > Ensoniq Audio PCI, the SoundBlaster compatibility even is a > completely > fake driver generated virtual hardware experience in the first > place. > > Regards, Eric > > > > - - > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > Protect what matters > Floods can happen anywhere. Learn your risk and find an agent today. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/556f0deaaf252dea23d8mp07duc > ** >From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
Hi! > What I need for my Dell is a sound blaster pro driver that works on > an ESS chip without windows being there. Windows turns the chip on > somehow. The programs are for DOS running under windows. None of the > drivers are for dos alone, even if they claim to be. Add windows to > the background and they work but who wants that. There are many different ESS chips, so more information is needed: http://support.toshiba.com/support/viewContentDetail?contentId=107869 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensoniq_AudioPCI http://www.daqarta.com/ess.htm What would also help is a tool to detect I/O base, IRQ and DMA details without hanging. No matter which card you have, often one or several of those aspects go wrong. In particular with PCI cards trying to be compatible to ISA SoundBlaster standards of any type, failing DMA and mis-routed IRQ signals are a common source of havoc. In some cases, it even is a hardware problem (a new mainboard cannot make PCI stuff look sufficiently ISA compatible any more). With SB Live, SB PCI and the ESS Ensoniq Audio PCI, the SoundBlaster compatibility even is a completely fake driver generated virtual hardware experience in the first place. Regards, Eric -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
What kind of Windows is it? It it's some 9x version, chances are that
the Windows drivers you have already are installing their DOS
counterpart in autoexec & config.sys files.
If that's the case, it would just be a matter of copying the required
files from your windows installation, note the exact entries added to
autoexec & config.sys, and replicate the whole stuff on your DOS-only PC.
First step would be to look into your autoexec.bat and config.sys files
on the Windows installation - do you see anything related to your sound
card there?
Mateusz
On 03/06/2015 16:08, Dale E Sterner wrote:
> What I need for my Dell is a sound blaster pro driver that works on
> an ESS chip without windows being there. Windows turns the chip on
> somehow. The programs are for DOS running under windows. None of the
> drivers are for dos alone, even if they claim to be. Add windows to
> the background and they work but who wants that.
>
>
> cheers
> DS
>
>
>
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 07:37:56 -0500 Rugxulo writes:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Rugxulo wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Dale E Sterner
>> wrote:
Have the same problem with a DELL laptop. Tried a few dozen
>> drivers
and none worked.
>>>
>>> What stuff are you trying to run anyways? Games? Audio CD? MP3?
>> WAV?
>>> MOD? MID? AVI?
>>>
>>> I did test a bunch of things on my old P4 [EMU10k1]. Most of it
>> didn't work
>>
>> Now I remember an old freeware module player called LMP ('L' for SB
>> Live!), which does actually work, too.
>>
>> ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/sound/lmp09.zip
>>
>> So, just in general, it's not that literally nothing works, just
>> sometimes it's hard to find.
>>
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
What I need for my Dell is a sound blaster pro driver that works on
an ESS chip without windows being there. Windows turns the chip on
somehow. The programs are for DOS running under windows. None of the
drivers are for dos alone, even if they claim to be. Add windows to
the background and they work but who wants that.
cheers
DS
On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 07:37:56 -0500 Rugxulo writes:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Rugxulo wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Dale E Sterner
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Have the same problem with a DELL laptop. Tried a few dozen
> drivers
> >> and none worked.
> >
> > What stuff are you trying to run anyways? Games? Audio CD? MP3?
> WAV?
> > MOD? MID? AVI?
> >
> > I did test a bunch of things on my old P4 [EMU10k1]. Most of it
> didn't work
>
> Now I remember an old freeware module player called LMP ('L' for SB
> Live!), which does actually work, too.
>
> ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/sound/lmp09.zip
>
> So, just in general, it's not that literally nothing works, just
> sometimes it's hard to find.
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
Hi,
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Rugxulo wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
>>
>> Have the same problem with a DELL laptop. Tried a few dozen drivers
>> and none worked.
>
> What stuff are you trying to run anyways? Games? Audio CD? MP3? WAV?
> MOD? MID? AVI?
>
> I did test a bunch of things on my old P4 [EMU10k1]. Most of it didn't work
Now I remember an old freeware module player called LMP ('L' for SB
Live!), which does actually work, too.
ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/sound/lmp09.zip
So, just in general, it's not that literally nothing works, just
sometimes it's hard to find.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Zip vs Pkzip
Thanks Mateusz, I will report this to Info-Zip On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 5:55 AM, Don Flowers wrote: > I am currently running kubuntu 14.04 , 14.10 and Zorin OS 9 (14.04) but > this started as early as 12.04. It is not the mirror per se - I can go back > to what I thought was a bad download and (pk)unzip it and it turns out to > be complete. > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Louis Santillan > wrote: > >> Also, Info-Zip has a zipinfo binary. The verbose output (-v) might >> tell you something. >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: >> > This is something you might want to report to the Info-Zip team instead >> > of here. Don't forget to provide them with an example of a file that is >> > correctly decompressed by pkunzip, but not by unzip. >> > >> > http://www.info-zip.org/ >> > >> > Mateusz >> > >> > >> > >> > On 03/06/2015 03:52, Don Flowers wrote: >> >> I've recently become aware of some incompatibility between our FreeDOS >> >> unzip, Linux unzip and the legacy Pkunzip versions 2.04 and 2.50. I >> >> download hundreds of SIMTEL/BBS and other vintage files a month and I >> >> know that statistically a percentage of those will be incomplete or >> have >> >> CRC errors. But files that I know are complete are not being >> >> uncompressed properly. This almost always shows up in a blank README >> >> file. I typically download and unzip with linux but when I noticed this >> >> anomaly I switched to FreeDOS unzip and noticed some improvement, but >> >> when I switched to pkunzip the number of blank files has dropped >> >> dramatically. Has anyone else noticed this? >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> -- >> > ___ >> > Freedos-user mailing list >> > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> >> >> -- >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Zip vs Pkzip
I am currently running kubuntu 14.04 , 14.10 and Zorin OS 9 (14.04) but this started as early as 12.04. It is not the mirror per se - I can go back to what I thought was a bad download and (pk)unzip it and it turns out to be complete. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:38 AM, Louis Santillan wrote: > Also, Info-Zip has a zipinfo binary. The verbose output (-v) might > tell you something. > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > This is something you might want to report to the Info-Zip team instead > > of here. Don't forget to provide them with an example of a file that is > > correctly decompressed by pkunzip, but not by unzip. > > > > http://www.info-zip.org/ > > > > Mateusz > > > > > > > > On 03/06/2015 03:52, Don Flowers wrote: > >> I've recently become aware of some incompatibility between our FreeDOS > >> unzip, Linux unzip and the legacy Pkunzip versions 2.04 and 2.50. I > >> download hundreds of SIMTEL/BBS and other vintage files a month and I > >> know that statistically a percentage of those will be incomplete or have > >> CRC errors. But files that I know are complete are not being > >> uncompressed properly. This almost always shows up in a blank README > >> file. I typically download and unzip with linux but when I noticed this > >> anomaly I switched to FreeDOS unzip and noticed some improvement, but > >> when I switched to pkunzip the number of blank files has dropped > >> dramatically. Has anyone else noticed this? > >> > > > > > > > -- > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Zip vs Pkzip
Also, Info-Zip has a zipinfo binary. The verbose output (-v) might tell you something. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > This is something you might want to report to the Info-Zip team instead > of here. Don't forget to provide them with an example of a file that is > correctly decompressed by pkunzip, but not by unzip. > > http://www.info-zip.org/ > > Mateusz > > > > On 03/06/2015 03:52, Don Flowers wrote: >> I've recently become aware of some incompatibility between our FreeDOS >> unzip, Linux unzip and the legacy Pkunzip versions 2.04 and 2.50. I >> download hundreds of SIMTEL/BBS and other vintage files a month and I >> know that statistically a percentage of those will be incomplete or have >> CRC errors. But files that I know are complete are not being >> uncompressed properly. This almost always shows up in a blank README >> file. I typically download and unzip with linux but when I noticed this >> anomaly I switched to FreeDOS unzip and noticed some improvement, but >> when I switched to pkunzip the number of blank files has dropped >> dramatically. Has anyone else noticed this? >> > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Zip vs Pkzip
This is something you might want to report to the Info-Zip team instead of here. Don't forget to provide them with an example of a file that is correctly decompressed by pkunzip, but not by unzip. http://www.info-zip.org/ Mateusz On 03/06/2015 03:52, Don Flowers wrote: > I've recently become aware of some incompatibility between our FreeDOS > unzip, Linux unzip and the legacy Pkunzip versions 2.04 and 2.50. I > download hundreds of SIMTEL/BBS and other vintage files a month and I > know that statistically a percentage of those will be incomplete or have > CRC errors. But files that I know are complete are not being > uncompressed properly. This almost always shows up in a blank README > file. I typically download and unzip with linux but when I noticed this > anomaly I switched to FreeDOS unzip and noticed some improvement, but > when I switched to pkunzip the number of blank files has dropped > dramatically. Has anyone else noticed this? > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
