Re: [Freedos-user] Fiddling with XMS and EMS
Xtree complains after a minute: device: AUX, Cannot write data. Dunno, would only make a horrible suggestion to use a different file manager, e.g. DJGPP-built Ytree. good hint, found FM which has exactly the same problems with JEMMEX as BP has. Difference is, it does not run in any config. If no EMS or XMS available I get Runtime error 200, else I get 000E. the only ytree binary i was able to find is for Windows. ;( FM second one: ytree 5.: http://www.xtreefanpage.org/lowres/x60softw.htm (Without further knowledge, it's very difficult, esp. since I don't have Xtree. But I honestly hate the idea of giving up or don't use it as worthwhile advice.) ;) any clone would be ok. XT has got a feature my father uses often, NC and clones dont have it. and he is used to XT. BP IDE starts fine, did not try further yet. current JEMMEX config is DEVICE=C:\DOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG Wait, are you running inside a VM? There's almost no other explanation for using NOVME. no idea. this is what the freedos installer installed ;) havent thought about it yet. removing NOVME did not change anything. Dunno, no reason it should be using so much or even both XMS plus EMS at the same time. Might be some configuration setting (env. var.?) for that somewhere. Or it could just be the extender's bug. Try HDPMI16 or DPMIONE instead. mh, DPMIONE + FM did not work in any memory config. HDPMI i did not try yet, since it comes with a huge DOS extender package. its hard to remember. its s long ago since I dealt with DPMI etc. so DPMI gets on top of any XMS manager? If I remember/understand correctly, XMS is provided by: himem.sys, jemmex, xmgr, emm386 etc. why does MEM report EMS when JEMMEX option says NOEMS? MEM isn't always reliable, there is no other solution? I tried JEMMEX VERBOSE and it reports 8 MB EMS with NOEMS option. strange. will check if there is a newer version... http://www.japheth.de/Jemm.html It's hard for some extenders to work in all circumstances, esp. modern machines. Clearly they weren't fully tested, and they make some weird assumptions, probably because it mostly worked fine in common cases (e.g. legacy Win9x). 16-bit DPMI was always quirky, says CWS, because it was always relying on non-standard, undocumented int 21h extensions. well, the P3 is a good choice I think. has a lot of modern interfaces, but is not that different from the old hardware as really modern PCs. I do not want to know the problems one has with UEFI BIOSes. ;) XKEYB is deprecated. Try Aitor's latest KEYB 2.01 bugfix instead, if possible, it is preferred. does not work with USBDOS. Jan -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Write access to freedos wiki?
Hi, I would like to write a HOW-TO on USBDOS. May I use the Freedos Wiki for doing so? Or should I write somewhere else? my SF account is jpt77 Jan -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] directions for Bret J.'s USB driver
Hi Bret, in short: everyhing works now, and there weren't any real problems, one couldn't solve by following a short how-to. Your drivers are great! :) I removed the PCI USB2.0 adapter. Now there is only one hosts left. Having a lot of hosts wasn't a problem, removing just made things more clear. And I discovered the USBHUB program, which made me find mouse and keyboard behind the hubs (keyboard internal hub). Now both basically work, even with the switch in between, to switch them between two PCs. The problem with the double letters was solved by unloading KEYB. DOS7-KEYB doesn't work yet, I believe it wants to have it's own KEYBOARD.SYS file. USBKEYB typing methods didn't change anything. Still Freedos Edit crashs upon startup when the usb drivers are loaded. I believe I have to check my JEMM config before I try anything else. I asked to the list if I may put the USBDOS how-to on the Freedos wiki. It will contain a lot of screen prints, so for further details on my setup you may have look on it, as soon as it's on-line. There is still one topic: The PC once came up with a setup where the devices had been attached to one of the offboard Via hosts. Can this be true or has it been a misinterpretation/mistake by me? If the setup changes with every boot up, without changing where the devices are physically plugged... Then my autoexec.bat config might not work all the time. Do the drivers return any batch readable output? My idea was to return the number of devices found using ERRORLEVEL. Then you may try different hosts automatically in a batch file. regards, Jan -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Fiddling with XMS and EMS (was: usage report)
Am 06.06.2012 13:15, schrieb Eric Auer: Hi! Two apps do not run using the first boot option JEMMEX: - Borland Pascal 7 - Xtree Pro Do both run if you do not load any EMM driver at all? when using XMGR or no EMS/XMS at all they run both. Xtree complains after a minute: device: AUX, Cannot write data. what about the AUX device in Freedos? Mode doesn't know about it? BP IDE starts fine, did not try further yet. current JEMMEX config is DEVICE=C:\DOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG Xtpro does not crash any more. Maybe because I understood I have to wait forever for the AUX stuff. ;) excluding anything doesn't help BP. but I realized there is a little bit of randomness. after boot-up, on the third try the BP IDE comes up. mh... everytime BP crashes, it reserves a LOT of XMS memory. ~ 100 MB on first try, ~28 MB and all 8 MB of EMS on second try, on the third try it does not crash any more. I guess it does not reserve any EMS or XMS now. why does MEM report EMS when JEMMEX option says NOEMS? That's all I can do for now. over to the experts ;) btw. I still have some problems with XKEYB and other programs while JEMMEX is loaded. Jan -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] directions for Bret J.'s USB driver
Am 08.06.2012 16:43, schrieb Bret Johnson: The problem with the double letters was solved by unloading KEYB. DOS7-KEYB doesn't work yet, I believe it wants to have it's own KEYBOARD.SYS file. USBKEYB typing methods didn't change anything. Interesting. Usually, KEYB fixes things instead of breaking them. Win98 KEYB works, so does XKEYB 1.15 when JEMMEX isn't loaded. Still Freedos Edit crashs upon startup when the usb drivers are loaded. I believe I have to check my JEMM config before I try anything else. Something to experiment with, I suppose. I'm not sure if I've ever tried FD EDIT with the USB drivers or not. I'll try to remember to experiment with that. without JEMMEX it still crashes. This really seems to be a problem with Freedos Edit and USBDOS. The other software works fine. hot-plugging (ie switching PCs) does not work at all. crashes far too often. the only way is switch, load drivers, use devices, unload drivers, switch, start from the beginning. as far as I am concerned, I will write the how-to, then I am done. Have to work around these problems somehow. If you want to take a closer look at any of these problems, you are welcome to ask for details. Jan -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] directions for Bret J.'s USB driver
Hi again, I searched my attic and found a very old DIN Cherry G80-1501 Keyboard with german health insurance card reader. Now it's easier to experiment with the USB driver, since the keyboard continues to work. I found out how to start the driver. First USBUHCI - seems to work. after that USBMOUSE and USBKEYB. Both install, but do not seem to find anything. how can I found out what is going wrong? BTW, there is a bug in USBKEY. While it is loaded, my DIN Keyboard on PS/2 port sends about 50% of the letters twice. This does not seem to apply to non-printable keys like backspace, enter or the cursor keys. I'll exchange the keyboard with my primary Cherry G80-1500 and see if this error still occurs. Jan Am 06.06.2012 12:57, schrieb JPT: Hi, Since I switch HIDs between two PCs using an USB switch, I would be happy if the USB mouse worked. I tried Bret J.'s USB driver. USBUHCI loads, but complains about legacy USB mode. Do I have to switch off legacy in BIOS? after the driver is loaded, the keyboard does not work any more. loading USBKEYB afterwards does not help. Since the docs are for people who want to deal with every bit that is sent over USB... Is there a short how-to available? thanks, Jan -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] directions for Bret J.'s USB driver
Hi Bret, I'm sorry. I didn't read your email before writing to the list again. this time I tried everything I could think of before posting. current status: I made both, the keyboard and the mouse work once, but not stable yet. If you wish I can help in trouble shooting/debugging the drivers. Am 06.06.2012 18:27, schrieb Bret Johnson: I tried Bret J.'s USB driver. USBUHCI loads, but complains about legacy USB mode. Do I have to switch off legacy in BIOS? You shouldn't have to, but that's certainly an option. switching off legacy in bios did not change anything. (except of course the usb keyboard does not work before loading the USB drivers) after the driver is loaded, the keyboard does not work any more. loading USBKEYB afterwards does not help. How are you able to load USBKEYB afterwards if the keyboard doesn't work? i used a batchfile *g* should I delay loading device drivers after USBUHCI? Since the docs are for people who want to deal with every bit that is sent over USB... Is there a short how-to available? when I am finished i'll try to write a short guide that will answer most of my beginners questions. Your most likely problem is that you have more than one UHCI host controller, and you are only installing the driver for the first one, but your keyboard is not plugged into the first one. You can use USBHOSTS to tell you how many USB host controllers you actually have. I have got 3xUHCI (1x Intel, 2xVia). There is an EHCI controller, but it's offboard so I am sure I did not plug anything into these ports. (btw, don't know how to load the driver for this host, since it has #0, too) I used USBDEVIC to check if there are devices on the host: just now it reports both, mouse and keyboard for host #0 (intel). after loading ctmouse the mouse works, but the keyboard doesn't. edit: when legacy is off, the keyboard LEDs turn on when loading USBUHCI #0, and off when unloading. once the devices were listed at host #1 (via) in this case, the keyboard worked, but loading usbmouse crashed the system. could not yet reproduce this config. what about the message: initilizing ps/2 mouse if this message is shown has nothing to do with a mouse attached or not. Still I got the problem with the PS/2 keyboard. As soon as the USBKEYB is loaded, roughly every second keypress shows two letters. This seems to be true for printable characters only. Jan -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] usage report
Hi, some of you may remember: I tried 1.0 a long time ago, and failed. Now I successfuly installed 1.1 and it runs fine. Thanks ;) Hardware is P3 on i440 BX nb. If you answer only on a single topic, you might change the subject. I did not want to write 10 separate emails. Two apps do not run using the first boot option JEMMEX: - Borland Pascal 7 runtime exception 000E, which made me first think about the fast-CPU-problem, but this installation was patched already. during web research I found something mentioning XMS memory size. The PC has got 384 MB of RAM. - Xtree Pro Pressing Ctrl-Break prints a Jemmex exception. Using EMM386 it stops on startup, but continues. - I use a debian grub installation, which switches to graphix mode during bootup. Which means, I do not see freedos coming up, no freedos boot menu. After haevy reserach I solved the problem by switching grub to text mode... but maybe you could add a mode switch to the beginning of boot up? btw, I hate those graphic boot screens, they are good for trouble and mothing else. ;) everything else seems to run just fine: VgaCopy/386, Norton Commander, our self written pascal and fortran software... What I am missing is a set of gnu utils, one knows from Linux. Is there a package available somewhere? thanks, Jan -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] fdupdate
Hi, let's continue where I stopped a year ago. ;) I tried fdupdate to update my 1.1 installation. But, the DOS PC is still offline. I don't have a spare network cable. Is there any way to tell fdupdate/fdpkg where to find the files locally? I believe there are a lot of packages that are not yet in the 1.1 format? Do I have to install them manually? to, mh... maintain the installed software, ie add, remove? fdpkg? how does it know here to fetch the packages from? thanks, Jan -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] directions for Bret J.'s USB driver
Hi, Since I switch HIDs between two PCs using an USB switch, I would be happy if the USB mouse worked. I tried Bret J.'s USB driver. USBUHCI loads, but complains about legacy USB mode. Do I have to switch off legacy in BIOS? after the driver is loaded, the keyboard does not work any more. loading USBKEYB afterwards does not help. Since the docs are for people who want to deal with every bit that is sent over USB... Is there a short how-to available? thanks, Jan -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] UEFI and old OSes?
Hi, well, I am planning a PC upgrade. I already realized only a single manufacturer still offers floppy controllers. What a shame. Today I realized old BIOS is gone. And I cannot find much on the backwards compatibily of UEFI. There has to be a Compatibility Support Module (CSM) for old operating systems. Where does it come from? Some say, from the OS developer. Which does not make sense, since you won't ever get it from MS for Windows XP, 2000 or any DOS. How do you deal with UEFI PCs? Does Freedos work with UEFI? ps. No, Freedos is not going to be my main OS, but I want be able to boot from a dos floppy in case of - well - emergency. pps. Linus torvalds says I really think our EFI support is just fundamnetally broken. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1058560/focus%3D1152467 JPT -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE Performance -- Small Caches DO Work O.K.!
Hi, I cannot resist... in the following read my comments on caching and buffering. Even Windows XP (did not try nore recent versions yet) suffers from bad buffering when copying files from and to the same harddrive. It takes 10x to 100x time compared to copying from one drive to another one. I installed SuperCopier 2.2 beta which catches Explorer copy actions and does them itself. Well, now you are able to define huge buffers... but it does not help much, because its a question of filling and flushing the buffer, as XCOPY did. !!! beware, supercopy has got a bug when using buffers larger than 64k, causing it to abort the operation on files larger than 4 gig. !!! Caching does not help much with operations like this. Ok, caching FAT and directories... When working with large files, you always have to code buffering on your own. For example, I compiled mplex (mpeg muxer) myself using cygwin. Works correctly but uses the wrong file mode. Result is my RAM gets filled with cached data from the target file. Everything else gets paged out. The system breaks down to almost unusable until the process is finished. Then it takes decades to swap in the other programs again... What I want to say is, you can have Terabytes of RAM, it won't help in a case like this when the file operation is about as large as your RAM. If there was an upper limit for the amount of cache used for a single file, there would be no problem at all. So small caches sometimes perform even better! So guys go tell M$ how to write an operating system! JPT -- EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K The only unified storage solution that offers unified management Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installing 1.0 packages using 1.1 installer
Hi, Am 07.08.2011 02:01, schrieb Jim Hall: On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM, JPT j.p...@gmx.net wrote: [...] Answering the questions install all and install source seems to be odd. First tried N, N which resulted in an empty install. (still wrong location). Then I tried Y,N which was printed as Y,Y on screen. Maybe the installer was confused, because I pressed Z instead. I think I can explain the first part. The current Install is hard-coded with the source directories to check. (BASE, DEVEL, ..) If you don't have these directories, or don't have any packages in those directories, there is nothing to install. Probably should add an error if the install list is empty ... :-) The second one seems like a bug, but one I thought I fixed. Did you use the latest version of Install? I used the one from the 1.1 install CD. btw, I tried to get the most recent packages for download but... The freedos page only offers links to the developer's sites? So do they provide freedos compatible packages? ?!?! JPT -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] up to date packages?!
btw, I tried to get the most recent packages for download but... The freedos page only offers links to the developer's sites? So do they provide freedos compatible packages? ?!?! Not everyone does, unfortunately. Baaahh, you are driving me insane, guys! So... what would you say if I create packages from current source? is there any more docs than http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Package is there any build system for creating the packages? Do you have anything to start from when I create a package build system? (maybe the installer framework?) JPT -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Packet Driver for 2c90x works
Hi Ulrich, Found a packet driver for the 3c905b-c family. Perhaps you like to try it? See: http://lazybrowndog.net/3c90xpd thanks, it works out of the box! I had started to search myself, but haven't got that far... using this driver its as easy as: run 3c90xpd.com run dhcp run ping [anything] thats it. easier than windows. Wow! ;) Now I will try the 1.0 installer to add a few... a lot of ... packages. JPT -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Installing 1.0 packages using 1.1 installer
Hi, read this as a user experience report. Maybe you can add a few messages here and there to make more clear what is going on. Let me ask a single question, before we start: the Installer just takes any packages found, so for newer versions I just have to download them and put them so they are found by the installer? In this case, I am happy for now ;) after having all files in place (on disk), I started the installer. It asks were to install to. I wrote c:\test since I am not sure, if it wants to know the DOS location. any suggestion would be nice. ** was a good idea, now I can compare the DOS and TEST dirs. yes, it would have overwritten more recent software In the first time, I called the install.exe from the wrong location. I did not get any error message, it just did not install anything in no time *g* Answering the questions install all and install source seems to be odd. First tried N, N which resulted in an empty install. (still wrong location). Then I tried Y,N which was printed as Y,Y on screen. Maybe the installer was confused, because I pressed Z instead. OT: My only USB keyboard for switchung between machines is a US keyboard I got from the flea market a few weeks ago. Somebody brute force swapped a few keys (eg Y and Z), for making it more like a german keyboard. So its neither US nor DE, its a mess. Have to undo this... Now I realized the problem calling from the wrong location. I ran install.exe again. this time N,N which did not ask which packages actually to install. So it did install all packages? Then why did it ask? I got error messages TZ envirnoment variable not found, cannot use UTC time excluded filename does not match source/* which is because the 1.0 packages do not have a source folder. (yes, I did read the docs) Note: why didn't ask the installer for the locale (keyb) to install? (not this one but when I initially installed freedos) thanks, JPT -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos much more. Register early save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FD 1.0 installation... very instable?
Hi, You have to subscribe to this list, to be able to post? Ok, I did so and sent my email again... I try to install Freedos on a P3-800, Asus Cubx board, Intel i440BX chip, 384MB of RAM. And I am frustrated by now. :( I got about 30 crashes. I was able to solve some of them, but... If the install is that instable, what about the system? Is it wise to uses freedos 1.0 for production environment? May I use FAT32 for primary partition? else the drive will already be heavily loaded after installation... Crashes for example - on installation bootup freecom loading crashes, if drive C is not formatted. which prevents formatting... - the floppy created from the installation menu does not boot at all (3 dots is all i get) - installation in oracle virtualbox seems not to be able to load the network driver correctly. which hardware should I select in the VB config? - installation crashes with some memory error while installing some packages... Yes, I did successfully run memtest and harddrive tests. Do you have any idea how to successfully install Freedos? Should I try the 1.1 installer? But the 1.1 iso image does not contain all packages? Is there something like a package manager, you may invoke after successfull installation? In this case, I might try a minimal installation, and install the other packages in several iterations... thank you very much :) JPT -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FD 1.0 installation... very instable?
Thanks for the quick answer. I ll try your suggestions. find a few comments on your answers below: Am 30.07.2011 12:08, schrieb Bernd Blaauw: - the floppy created from the installation menu does not boot at all (3 dots is all i get) I'll look into that. 3 dots usually means bootsector loads but can't find kernel (kernel.sys) mh... seemed to me, it did not do anything except bootsector write on creating the floppy. ie, there is no kernel.sys - installation in oracle virtualbox seems not to be able to load the network driver correctly. which hardware should I select in the VB config? AMD PCNET or NE2000 likely, maybe the Intel card. I haven't got much experience with VirtualBox, sorry. I found a lot of docs on network. I start with Barts network bootdisk now, to find a working driver. after that, I check Freedos networking again. JPT -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FD 1.1 Bootfloppy Problems
Hi, tried the floppy to partition and format the hardisk. It works if I choose not to load any drivers. ^^ ie. 1 - Install FreeDOS... 3 - Dont load any drivers at all In the other cases, I get crashes. 1 - Use default settings results in a JemmEx errormessage after loading the kernel. JemmEx: exception 06 occured ad cs:eip 02a3:...6af,errc 0 after pressing escape JemmEx: exception 06 occured ad cs:eip 02a3:...15ae,errc 0 again pressing escape gives an a: prompt 2 - use alternative xms memory manager (xmgr) results in invalid opcode after loading the kernel. This is for hardware P3-800, Asus Cubx board, Intel i440BX chip, 384MB of RAM, Network 3Com 3c905b On Oracle VirtualBox it works, but takes a long time searching the IDE bus. (did not attach a harddrive) Now these problems are documented and the drive is formatted, I will try the old installer CD again. JPT ps. I made screenshots, but I did not attach them to this email. so if you need more details, give me an email adress where to send them. -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FD 1.0 installation... very instable?
Rugxulo, you are right, I should do this in a more structured way. expected to throw the CD in, and thats it. EDIT: current status is: - hardware ok, maybe the memory was faulty, i have to verify this. - freedos 1.1 successfully installed. - Debian installer is currently downloading addtional packages. next steps, as soon as debian is working: - install additional dos packages - make network work Details of what I have done yet: hardware - CPU and board should be rocking stable, had XP running for years without probs. - memory... Was 3x128 + 1x256 = 640, but recognized only 384 MB. This might indicate a problem. Removed all but 1x128 MB. Memtest runs fast now, 20 mins for 2 passes. Everything ok. I will reinsert and check some of the other memory modules later. (I did memtest before without error, but who knows...) - disk, ontrack is running, 2h. No error. I have my rescue floppies and CDRWs always at hand, but the labels aren't matching the content any more, for most of them :) - CPU clock rate too high for a lot of old dos software? Do you think clocking down to below 500 Mhz might help? Bart says so for his network boot floppy. - A20 stuff... especially the XMS/EMS driver loading seems to fail often. I have in mind that A20 has to do something with EMS oder XMS. (or UMB?) And, A20 is some hack using the keyboard controller. Since I attached an USB keyboard to a USB switch, for easily switching between computers... could this be a problem, eg in the BIOS USB Keyboard code? Now to the software. - This time I partitioned and formatted the drive before booting the installer. btw, the fdisk program contained on the floppy sucks. created a bad partition layout. have to move partitions now... what about xfdisk instead? - Install debian... for having less trouble with partitioning in the future, and to verify the hardware. - install Freedos 1.1T3 Ran through in almost no time, wow! I got the same error message from Jemm, but pressing ESC continued booting the installer. So where do you suggest to continue? Should I jump to the 1.0 installer? or should I install manually? Could you point me to a tutorial for manual install, or is it just unpack anywhere, as we are used from old dos? - network its a 3c905b. It should work using the NDIS driver included with Barts Network Boot Disk. Does it work with freedos out of the box or do I have to do this manually using this wiki page? http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS_-_NDIS_driver_installation Which cards are known to be working? Got a few Realtek based somewhere... Regarding your other questions. Production meaning what? Dunno, not sure it's been verified for military use. ^_^ well, we are still using an old 486 with DOS 5 for some special hardware and software (which partly was ported from apple II a long time ago) since the 14 monitor broke down yesterday and the 200 MB harddrive broke down half a year ago... we have to go to slighly newer hardware that is able to run at least a linux, and has got some interfaces for backup. It would also help to know what big apps you've tried (or primarily want) to run, just to know what you expect to work. I need: - pascal compiler - maybe basic compiler or interpreter - maybe fortran compiler, if the old software has to be recompiled - network would be nice - some basic linux tools, eg vim, df, du, dd, wget... EDIT: Oh yeah, you'd need working network, that's kinda arcane. But if it works (by some miracle) ehm, so network won't work?:( Well, so far for now. I continue with debian install... Thanks for all that help! JPT -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
