Hard drive failing
Hi All I have a Seagate 500 Gig in a G4 MDD that just showed red and the S.M.A.R.T says it's failing and I can't get files off it. Anyone know a way to get the files off? I have 320 GIGs of movies on it. it mounts and I can read it . I ran Drive Genius 2 on it but no cigar. The drive is only about 14 months old and only used for storage it has 10.5.8 on it. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: A way to select order of pix load in iPhoto
Jonas Lopez wrote: A way to select order of pix load in iPhoto on G4, 10.4.11? I have a digital camera with a memory that I insert in a USB reader causing iPhoto to launch and load ALL 250 PIX. I only shot the last 10, so only want to load the last 10. Is there a way to select the order of pix loading? Could not find a way to tell it to load the last ones first. JML. With my Canon A70, I have to tell it not to download duplicates every time I download from the camera. It will look and check for each shot as it does the download. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
I'd give data rescue ii a go on it, I think they have a free trial, and you'll need at least one drive with a fair bit of free space on it On 21 Mar 2010, at 08:24, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi All I have a Seagate 500 Gig in a G4 MDD that just showed red and the S.M.A.R.T says it's failing and I can't get files off it. Anyone know a way to get the files off? I have 320 GIGs of movies on it. it mounts and I can read it . I ran Drive Genius 2 on it but no cigar. The drive is only about 14 months old and only used for storage it has 10.5.8 on it. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list +unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
O.T. Different worlds
Here we are, three and a half years after the last G5 shipped, and Apple has all but dropped support for PPC. In my other world, I am a building maintenance tech. I keep up on news about building automation, and HVAC controls, etc. PPC (especially G3) has been very popular in embedded systems across a wide range of controls, from buildings, to medical equipment, to factory automation. Today, I was reading about some new products from one of Emerson's subsidiaries, and I came across this quote: This product firmly establishes our commitment to the CompactPCI form factor and to continue expanding Emerson Network Power’s PowerPC® roadmap to protect legacy technology and provide a clear migration path for users of legacy PowerPC technologies. I am thankful that, at least in that world, companies don't expect me to buy all new hardware every five years. In fact, a couple of months ago, I had a tech from Johnson controls on the phone, walking me through a troubleshoot of a 40+ year old purely pneumatic control system for an HVAC system. He helped me get it up and running before ever mentioning the fact that they have products that I can use to upgrade it (piece by piece if necessary) if it ever gets beyond repair. One of my buildings is from the 1920's, and the other is five years old. If they had Apple logos, on them, I would have to rely on community support to keep either of them running. I read this list every day, and I think that the reason I like it so much, is that it IS like that other world I live in, where we find a problem, and fix it. We don't gut a building to modernize it, we upgrade when the old system absolutely won't do what we need it to any more. Sometimes, we can't even upgrade, if we want to keep things going. We just had to get a new computer built in a special case for our fire system, it had to run Windows NT, the fire system can't just be thrown windows 7, and hope to work. Here (in the g-group) people are always looking to find a way to eek that little bit more out of what they've got. Whether it's because you have legacy files, or programs, or (like me) you feel like there's no reason to get rid of things that still work. I haven't even tapped into all of the things I can do with my G4 Gigabit, and I hope that someday when I do get something newer, I still find ways to use this great machine. Meanwhile, I am glad that I'm along for the ride with all of you. Warm regards, Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: iMac G5 isight, frequent Kernal Panics, inspite reinstalled OS Tiger
What is a LoBo. As said,maybe your problem is bad capacitors,and if have someone who can change them,you only have to follow the ifixit guide to disassemble the g5 and take the board off.. On Mar 21, 3:27 am, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote: I took my iMac G5 isight, and they told that I have a bad LoBo. repair is more than it's worth -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Upgrading a Sawtooth
Sorry to just post now,I've been out of time. Let's say I tried for free the Intech's SOlution to install osx 10.4 in the HD and try it,and man,that is a freakin difference of speed! If I had a 7200rpm drive that would be even more amazing... When I go back home,I'll do the firmware hack or use the overdrive driver and re-install the OS. Another question,I am thinking of buying a NEC EA231WMI DIsplay (full HD - 1920x1...@60hz),do you think,that the sawtooth with a 9700pro would be sluggish on the web browsing and so at that resolution? On Mar 13, 12:25 pm, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.net wrote: skinnie wrote: Where can I find info about the hack?I've searched already but didn't found it... I am trying to make this machine really lowend on money,because: 1)I'll only use it on weekends 2)I am student and don't have much money. Here is the message. I could not find Overdrive so I did the firmware hack. On Feb 22, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: I just acquired a 320 GB HD for mySawtoothFrankenMac. I know there is a 128 GB limit on drive size. What do I need to do to use the whole drive? Use an enabler for LBA48 support or do the firmware patch. One method is to use Intech's solution, which costs $. With Intech if you're using OS 9 you must format the HD with Speedtools 3.5 for OS9. In OS X you need the Intech Hi-Cap extension, and then for safety you'd want to add a partition break at the exact 128GB mark (131,072MB exactly). Another solution is the freeware Overdrive http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/209276 A third is to manually tweak the firmware http://4thcode.blogspot.com/2007/12/using-128-gib-or-larger-ata-hard-... Is there a free disk utility which will let me use the whole drive? Yes, Overdrive mentioned with link above. Stewie _ Looking for a new home? With all the latest places, searching has never been easier.http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: boot image
On Mar 20, 2:21 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Yes, I've experience this same issue on some cloned DVD installer images on HDs. You can boot once, and then it stops booting. I believe this is because the HD isn't locked as a read-only device. I've tried locking the HD via software using permissions to lock the entire HD or partition to read-only, and that has NOT worked for me on problematic HDs. I believe you can lock a HD to read-only via a jumper, but I've never tried that. For some reason this doesn't happen on all HDs, just some. It seems to be consistent, meaning ones that only boot once will continue to only boot once, and ones that boot more then once continue to stay bootable. It may be the OS version also, I think most all of the unbootable HDs were Tiger 10.4 PPC? Any better theories to explain this phenomenon? The only solution I found was a fresh clone, blessing the HD didn't help. I just ran into this with a USB flash drive, I cloned tiger retail DVD, and used Pacafist to strip out the hardware checks, then used it to install tiger (very, very slowly) on a tangerine clamshell (no firewire) I had picked up for $10. I then tried to use the same method on my backup Lombard (just for fun) and the drive was not recognized as bootable no matter what I did. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Upgrading a Sawtooth
I don't know if the screen resolution is going to slow down your browsing. The question is, can your video card handle the resolution of the screen with the amount of video ram the card has? How much video ram does the card have and what resolutions are supported? skinnie wrote: Sorry to just post now,I've been out of time. Let's say I tried for free the Intech's SOlution to install osx 10.4 in the HD and try it,and man,that is a freakin difference of speed! If I had a 7200rpm drive that would be even more amazing... When I go back home,I'll do the firmware hack or use the overdrive driver and re-install the OS. Another question,I am thinking of buying a NEC EA231WMI DIsplay (full HD - 1920x1...@60hz),do you think,that the sawtooth with a 9700pro would be sluggish on the web browsing and so at that resolution? On Mar 13, 12:25 pm, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.net wrote: skinnie wrote: Where can I find info about the hack?I've searched already but didn't found it... I am trying to make this machine really lowend on money,because: 1)I'll only use it on weekends 2)I am student and don't have much money. Here is the message. I could not find Overdrive so I did the firmware hack. On Feb 22, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Dale Hoffman wrote: I just acquired a 320 GB HD for mySawtoothFrankenMac. I know there is a 128 GB limit on drive size. What do I need to do to use the whole drive? Use an enabler for LBA48 support or do the firmware patch. One method is to use Intech's solution, which costs $. With Intech if you're using OS 9 you must format the HD with Speedtools 3.5 for OS9. In OS X you need the Intech Hi-Cap extension, and then for safety you'd want to add a partition break at the exact 128GB mark (131,072MB exactly). Another solution is the freeware Overdrive http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/209276 A third is to manually tweak the firmware http://4thcode.blogspot.com/2007/12/using-128-gib-or-larger-ata-hard-... Is there a free disk utility which will let me use the whole drive? Yes, Overdrive mentioned with link above. Stewie _ Looking for a new home? With all the latest places, searching has never been easier.http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: boot image
On Mar 21, 2010, at 5:54 AM, peter wrote: I just ran into this with a USB flash drive, I cloned tiger retail DVD, and used Pacafist to strip out the hardware checks, then used it to install tiger (very, very slowly) on a tangerine clamshell (no firewire) I had picked up for $10. I then tried to use the same method on my backup Lombard (just for fun) and the drive was not recognized as bootable no matter what I did. That,s exactly what happened here. Shame. such a neat way to install without a DVD drive. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hidden Link Info.
At 4:20 PM -0700 3/20/2010, gifutiger wrote: I'm referring to those yellow tooltips OnyX will let you change that setting.It's ParameterSafari pane. Be sure to grab the proper version of OnyX for your OS. http://www.titanium.free.fr/pgs/english.html Dan, I took a look at the link that you provided, however I think that mail or Safari is not written in cocoa. Those apps are Cocoa. Kris is the one that provided the links etc, not me, btw. I think by top posting, you lost track of who said what etc. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: boot image
On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:07 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 5:54 AM, peter wrote: I just ran into this with a USB flash drive, I cloned tiger retail DVD, and used Pacafist to strip out the hardware checks, then used it to install tiger (very, very slowly) on a tangerine clamshell (no firewire) I had picked up for $10. I then tried to use the same method on my backup Lombard (just for fun) and the drive was not recognized as bootable no matter what I did. That,s exactly what happened here. Shame. such a neat way to install without a DVD drive. I'm not sure which, but aren't most G4s not USB bootable? FW, yes. According to Mactracker specs, maybe because G4s USB are only 12 Mbs, and starting with G5s, they are 480 Mbs, just over FWs 400. Just guessing. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: boot image
On Mar 21, 10:37 am, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: I'm not sure which, but aren't most G4s not USB bootable? FW, yes. According to Mactracker specs, maybe because G4s USB are only 12 Mbs, and starting with G5s, they are 480 Mbs, just over FWs 400. Just guessing. Yet, the G3 clamshell with USB1, Booted from it and and allowed the install. Clamshell works fine(ish) in Tiger now. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: boot image
On 3/21/10 6:54 AM, peter wrote: I just ran into this with a USB flash drive, I cloned tiger retail DVD, and used Pacafist to strip out the hardware checks, then used it to install tiger (very, very slowly) on a tangerine clamshell (no firewire) I had picked up for $10. I then tried to use the same method on my backup Lombard (just for fun) and the drive was not recognized as bootable no matter what I did. I'm curious about this process. Anyone care to write out the steps, please? Could be useful in the absence of a DVD drive. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: boot image
On Mar 21, 2010, at 7:37 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:07 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 5:54 AM, peter wrote: I just ran into this with a USB flash drive, I cloned tiger retail DVD, and used Pacafist to strip out the hardware checks, then used it to install tiger (very, very slowly) on a tangerine clamshell (no firewire) I had picked up for $10. I then tried to use the same method on my backup Lombard (just for fun) and the drive was not recognized as bootable no matter what I did. That,s exactly what happened here. Shame. such a neat way to install without a DVD drive. I'm not sure which, but aren't most G4s not USB bootable? FW, yes. According to Mactracker specs, maybe because G4s USB are only 12 Mbs, and starting with G5s, they are 480 Mbs, just over FWs 400. Just guessing. You can boot USB from OS9. That's a way if you only have a USB DVD drive. As long as the G4 boots 9. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: boot image
On Mar 21, 2010, at 7:51 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 7:37 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:07 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 5:54 AM, peter wrote: I just ran into this with a USB flash drive, I cloned tiger retail DVD, and used Pacafist to strip out the hardware checks, then used it to install tiger (very, very slowly) on a tangerine clamshell (no firewire) I had picked up for $10. I then tried to use the same method on my backup Lombard (just for fun) and the drive was not recognized as bootable no matter what I did. That,s exactly what happened here. Shame. such a neat way to install without a DVD drive. I'm not sure which, but aren't most G4s not USB bootable? FW, yes. According to Mactracker specs, maybe because G4s USB are only 12 Mbs, and starting with G5s, they are 480 Mbs, just over FWs 400. Just guessing. You can boot USB from OS9. That's a way if you only have a USB DVD drive. As long as the G4 boots 9. Also G3s can be upgraded with thi method That's how I did my G3 imacs they didnt read DVDs. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: boot image
You can also CCC 3.3 clone the OS X over an ethernet network, not just 1 partition to another ... doesn't help the OP, but just an FYI. Most Macs have an ethernet port. Just saw, not all have FW. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: O.T. Different worlds
On Mar 21, 2010, at 2:09 AM, PETER WARNER wrote: Here we are, three and a half years after the last G5 shipped, and Apple has all but dropped support for PPC. In my other world, I am a building maintenance tech. I keep up on news about building automation, and HVAC controls, etc. PPC (especially G3) has been very popular in embedded systems across a wide range of controls, from buildings, to medical equipment, to factory automation. Today, I was reading about some new products from one of Emerson's subsidiaries, and I came across this quote: This product firmly establishes our commitment to the CompactPCI form factor and to continue expanding Emerson Network Power’s PowerPC® roadmap to protect legacy technology and provide a clear migration path for users of legacy PowerPC technologies. I am thankful that, at least in that world, companies don't expect me to buy all new hardware every five years. In fact, a couple of months ago, I had a tech from Johnson controls on the phone, walking me through a troubleshoot of a 40+ year old purely pneumatic control system for an HVAC system. He helped me get it up and running before ever mentioning the fact that they have products that I can use to upgrade it (piece by piece if necessary) if it ever gets beyond repair. One of my buildings is from the 1920's, and the other is five years old. If they had Apple logos, on them, I would have to rely on community support to keep either of them running. I read this list every day, and I think that the reason I like it so much, is that it IS like that other world I live in, where we find a problem, and fix it. We don't gut a building to modernize it, we upgrade when the old system absolutely won't do what we need it to any more. Sometimes, we can't even upgrade, if we want to keep things going. We just had to get a new computer built in a special case for our fire system, it had to run Windows NT, the fire system can't just be thrown windows 7, and hope to work. Here (in the g-group) people are always looking to find a way to eek that little bit more out of what they've got. Whether it's because you have legacy files, or programs, or (like me) you feel like there's no reason to get rid of things that still work. I haven't even tapped into all of the things I can do with my G4 Gigabit, and I hope that someday when I do get something newer, I still find ways to use this great machine. Meanwhile, I am glad that I'm along for the ride with all of you. Excellent! I too am from the school that new is not always better. Fact is that I generally followed that five year rule regarding computer upgrades but here I am sitting in front of my ancient G4 Gigabit writing this. Certainly, Apple could have done a better job of increasing the transition period and MOST certainly, IBM could have done a better job of bringing Power technology to mobile applications. IBM's failure to do this was the motivation of Apple switching to Intel as G4 PowerBooks were getting long in tooth technology-wise. Yes, industry looks at the bottom line in many ways and it is not at all unusual to see old systems still performing well. Thanks for a great post. JT Small Business Tools Click to find the latest solutions to enhance your small business. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=vyDYnxd9qlFK4X316GFKFwAAJ1Hoq79FjCQ74OFkFSWhCpbyAAYAAADNAAARMQA= -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Odd message is System Log
Hi All,
On my G5 Early 2005 Dual 2.0, 4GB RAM, 10.5.8, an odd message has
recently appeared in the System Log (after Startup) , viewed through
Console.
Message is repeated many times (between 6 and 20+ ish) and reads:-
Mar 21 16:29:37 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
UniNEnet::restartReceiver
Is this indicative of a problem I should be solving?
Thanks
Ted
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Re: boot image
On Mar 21, 10:49 am, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious about this process. Anyone care to write out the steps, please? Could be useful in the absence of a DVD drive. Thanks. I followed a couple of tutorials online, using a little of this, and a little of that, and meant to write it all up and post to the G-Books group (as it was for the Clamshell) But I never got around to it. Perhaps it's time for me to do that, I think I'll have to go through the entire proccess again in order to remember, so don't expect the post right away. I'll post it to this thread as well for those who don't subscribe to the Book group, since the process applies to desktops as well. However, I think it's clear that YMMV... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Upgrading a Sawtooth
On Mar 21, 2010, at 7:49 AM, skinnie wrote: Sorry to just post now,I've been out of time. Let's say I tried for free the Intech's SOlution to install osx 10.4 in the HD and try it,and man,that is a freakin difference of speed! If I had a 7200rpm drive that would be even more amazing... When I go back home,I'll do the firmware hack or use the overdrive driver and re-install the OS. Another question,I am thinking of buying a NEC EA231WMI DIsplay (full HD - 1920x1...@60hz),do you think,that the sawtooth with a 9700pro would be sluggish on the web browsing and so at that resolution? For a while I was using a 9700 Pro (in a dual G5) to drive a 1600x1024 Apple Cinema Display. I had no problems. Not a direct answer, but as close as I can give you. I'd be more concerned about the slow CPU than the video card, unless you've upgraded from stock. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 1:42 AM, Mike Linnett wrote: I'd give data rescue ii a go on it, I think they have a free trial, and you'll need at least one drive with a fair bit of free space on it On 21 Mar 2010, at 08:24, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi All I have a Seagate 500 Gig in a G4 MDD that just showed red and the S.M.A.R.T says it's failing and I can't get files off it. Anyone know a way to get the files off? I have 320 GIGs of movies on it. it mounts and I can read it . I ran Drive Genius 2 on it but no cigar. The drive is only about 14 months old and only used for storage it has 10.5.8 on it. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA I removed the drive and put it in an external enclosure an connected it to my PM G% Dual 2.7 and it functioned properly except I can't verify S.M.A.R.T. because its IDE and the G5 is SATA. but i was able run Disk Utility and DiskWarrior and Maintenance on it and all other functions are working OK. I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. I recently swapped out the Dual 1. Gig processor with a Dual 1.25 and I wonder if that could cause this problem?? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 12:02 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. If you use something like SMARTReporter you'll get a full readout of what problems it's finding with the HD. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: boot image
On Mar 21, 2010, at 5:54 AM, peter wrote: . I then tried to use the same method on my backup Lombard (just for fun) and the drive was not recognized as bootable no matter what I did. that's because the Lombard will not boot from USB, I'm pretty sure. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. SMART reporting is done on the hard drive itself, so if SMART is reporting a failure, then the drive is bad. I'd return it to seagate for replacement under warrantee. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 12:02 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. If you use something like SMARTReporter you'll get a full readout of what problems it's finding with the HD. OK so does this mean my processor is not an issue here? Also can I put a an Ultra ATA 133 HDD in the G4 MDD it has a ATA 100 now and the BUS speed is 100. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. SMART reporting is done on the hard drive itself, so if SMART is reporting a failure, then the drive is bad. I'd return it to seagate for replacement under warrantee. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Thanks for the excuse to be off to Fry's in search of a suitable replacement. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. SMART reporting is done on the hard drive itself, so if SMART is reporting a failure, then the drive is bad. I'd return it to seagate for replacement under warrantee. Agreed. To confirm the Seagate is failing, put it in another machine on which SMARTReporter is installed. In my experience, hard drives with SMART capabilities lose them when installed in an external drive. That's why a utility like Drive Genius 2 comes in handy when sorting out external drive issues. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:02 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I removed the drive and put it in an external enclosure an connected it to my PM G5 Dual 2.7 and it functioned properly except I can't verify S.M.A.R.T. because its IDE and the G5 is SATA. Most likely the reason you can not access the S.M.A.R.T. data has nothing to do with IDE versus SATA but is a consequence of using an external enclosure. (FWIW, I'm not sure what you meant by the above. Are you implying that the hard drive you are having problems with is a PATA drive? If that's true and your G5 is SATA, then how were you using the drive in your G5?) Unless you are using eSATA, you won't be able to access the S.M.A.R.T. data. My understanding is that there is no support in (the current) protocol used to attach an external drive via USB to retrieve S.M.A.R.T. data. I'm guessing (but don't know for certain) that this is also the case with firewire attached external drives. This is extremely annoying (to me) but I don't know of any way around it if you use USB to access the external drive. I remember reading a vague comment once that some extension to the mass storage attachment protocol (?) was planned which would allow accessing S.M.A.R.T. data from USB attached drives. I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to show up. (Maybe it'll work with USB 3.0? One can dream, no? :) -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Jim Scott wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. SMART reporting is done on the hard drive itself, so if SMART is reporting a failure, then the drive is bad. I'd return it to seagate for replacement under warrantee. Agreed. To confirm the Seagate is failing, put it in another machine on which SMARTReporter is installed. In my experience, hard drives with SMART capabilities lose them when installed in an external drive. That's why a utility like Drive Genius 2 comes in handy when sorting out external drive issues. I ran Drive Genius 2 on the drive and it passed but back in the SMART situation it continues to fail. Disk Utility and DiskWarrior also pass it in an external enclosure. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 11:10 AM, iJohn wrote: On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:02 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I removed the drive and put it in an external enclosure an connected it to my PM G5 Dual 2.7 and it functioned properly except I can't verify S.M.A.R.T. because its IDE and the G5 is SATA. Most likely the reason you can not access the S.M.A.R.T. data has nothing to do with IDE versus SATA but is a consequence of using an external enclosure. (FWIW, I'm not sure what you meant by the above. Are you implying that the hard drive you are having problems with is a PATA drive? If that's true and your G5 is SATA, then how were you using the drive in your G5?) The drive is PATA I put it in an external enclosure to be able to run Drive Genius 2, Disk Utility and DiskWarrior on it connected to the G5 PM via Firewire because the G4 MDD chokes on the drive. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 2:17 PM, John Carmonne wrote: The drive is PATA I put it in an external enclosure to be able to run Drive Genius 2, Disk Utility and DiskWarrior on it connected to the G5 PM via Firewire because the G4 MDD chokes on the drive. Its probably bad ... by choking if you mean folders on it don't open right away ... spinning beach ball ... etc. Maybe replace the ATA cable if it was crimped ... but its probably gone bad. Might check out SATA controller and HDs as well ... PATAs are supposedly becoming scarce. Nevertheless, I believe an ATA133 PATA HD will be fine on a ATA100 bus. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Odd message is System Log
At 4:35 PM + 3/21/2010, Ted Treen wrote:
G5 Early 2005 Dual 2.0, 4GB RAM, 10.5.8
Message is repeated many times (between 6 and 20+ ish) and reads:-
Mar 21 16:29:37 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
UniNEnet::restartReceiver
Is this indicative of a problem I should be solving?
Just repeated in one block, or over and over at later times? Were
there any network outtages at the time? Sleep/wake cycles?
Try reseating your ethernet cables.
- Dan.
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Re: Hard drive failing
I ran Drive Genius 2 on the drive and it passed but back in the SMART situation it continues to fail. Disk Utility and DiskWarrior also pass it in an external enclosure. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA This is merely anecdotal evidence, but I had a 500GB SATA Seagate come up with a SMART failure in an app called SMART Utility, but both Disk Utility and SMART Reporter passed it. SMART Reporter showed much more detail than just a generic SMART status; it showed that the drive had overheated in the past, and had 7 bad sectors that couldn't be remapped. That drive did eventually die, so proceed with caution. SMART Utility is a paid app, but will let you run it for free a few times in demo mode. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Eric Volker wrote: I ran Drive Genius 2 on the drive and it passed but back in the SMART situation it continues to fail. Disk Utility and DiskWarrior also pass it in an external enclosure. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA This is merely anecdotal evidence, but I had a 500GB SATA Seagate come up with a SMART failure in an app called SMART Utility, but both Disk Utility and SMART Reporter passed it. SMART Reporter showed much more detail than just a generic SMART status; it showed that ^ This should be SMART Utility, *not* SMART Reporter. My bad, and apologies to the list. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
PATA to SATA conversion
Hi All I have a G4 Dual 1.25 MDD with a sick HDD and I think I should convert from PATA drives to SATA as suggested by a lister but I don't know about the SATA cards like which one is good also the MDD has four HDD bays. I really want to max the drive capacities. It would be convenient because my Stanley Steamer ( G5 PM Dual 2.7) uses SATA drives. I'm wondering if this is a top notch conversion or kinda a novel patch type thing. Also I need to boot OS9 so a partition on one drive of 180 Gig would be necessary? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: PATA to SATA conversion
On Mar 21, 2010, at 2:40 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I have a G4 Dual 1.25 MDD with a sick HDD and I think I should convert from PATA drives to SATA as suggested by a lister but I don't know about the SATA cards like which one is good also the MDD has four HDD bays. I really want to max the drive capacities. It would be convenient because my Stanley Steamer ( G5 PM Dual 2.7) uses SATA drives. I'm wondering if this is a top notch conversion or kinda a novel patch type thing. Also I need to boot OS9 so a partition on one drive of 180 Gig would be necessary? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA I'm running a SeriTek/1S2 SATA controller with a Seagate 1TB drive attached on my DA Dual 533. QuickBench gives R/W speeds of about 95/96 MB/sec for its extended test. My 750GB Seagate PATA on my QS Dual 1GHz gives R/W ~57/60 MB/s for comparison. I notice the difference ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] PATA to SATA conversion
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:40 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I have a G4 Dual 1.25 MDD with a sick HDD and I think I should convert from PATA drives to SATA as suggested by a lister but I don't know about the SATA cards like which one is good also the MDD has four HDD bays. Another possible way to go that might work for you is to use a simple SATA to PATA adapter dongle card instead of a SATA PCI card. I'm thinking of one of the small converters which has the SATA connectors on it. For example/pictures only, something like this: http://www.amazon.com/SATA-PATA-Drive-Interface-Adapter/dp/B002Y2NI4M (For some reason these are harder to find than the ones designed to allow connecting a PATA drive to a SATA port.) -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Odd message is System Log
Dan wrote:
At 4:35 PM + 3/21/2010, Ted Treen wrote:
G5 Early 2005 Dual 2.0, 4GB RAM, 10.5.8
Message is repeated many times (between 6 and 20+ ish) and reads:-
Mar 21 16:29:37 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
UniNEnet::restartReceiver
Is this indicative of a problem I should be solving?
Just repeated in one block, or over and over at later times? Were
there any network outtages at the time? Sleep/wake cycles?
Try reseating your ethernet cables.
- Dan.
Hi Dan,
Thanks for responding.
The message is repeated constantly - timed intervals vary between 40
seconds and sometimes as much as 10 mins.
No network problems (1 Mac connected to ethernet router for ADSL)
No sleep/wake cycles.
Have reseated all cables - and even tried others.
I'm stumped. It doesn't appear to cause any other problems except for
v. large log files, which Onyx deals with...
Ted
Last 15 minutes syslog below:
Mar 21 17:59:28 TedsG5 [0x0-0x4b04b].com.adobe.Acrobat.Pro[0]: 100321
17:59:28 [Note] /Applications/Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional/Adobe Acrobat
Professional.app/Contents/MacOS/mysqld: Shutdown complete
Mar 21 18:00:45 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
UniNEnet::restartReceiver
Mar 21 18:01:45 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
UniNEnet::restartReceiver
Mar 21 18:03:01 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
UniNEnet::restartReceiver
Mar 21 18:03:50 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
UniNEnet::restartReceiver
Mar 21 18:04:45 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
UniNEnet::restartReceiver
Mar 21 18:08:05 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
UniNEnet::restartReceiver
Mar 21 18:11:51 TedsG5 Finder[110]: CGImageCreate: invalid image size: 0
x 0.
Mar 21 18:11:51 TedsG5 [0x0-0xb00b].com.apple.finder[110]: Sun Mar 21
18:11:51 TedsG5.local Finder[110] Error: CGImageCreate: invalid image
size: 0 x 0.
Mar 21 18:12:06 TedsG5 Finder[110]: NSOpenGLAutoscaleBounds=NO
Mar 21 18:13:47 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
UniNEnet::restartReceiver
Mar 21 18:15:49 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
UniNEnet::restartReceiver
Mar 21 18:18:04 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
UniNEnet::restartReceiver
Mar 21 18:24:51 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:29:02 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:30:15 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:31:10 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:33:55 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:38:00 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:38:34 TedsG5 [0x0-0x1b01b].org.mozilla.seamonkey[3398]:
deliver mode: 7
Mar 21 18:39:06 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:39:56 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:41:06 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:42:00 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:43:14 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:48:05 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:50:11 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:52:19 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:53:56 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:56:00 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 18:58:09 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 19:02:55 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 19:03:55 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 19:04:55 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 19:06:00 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 19:07:00 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Mar 21 19:08:59 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
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Re: Odd message is System Log
At 7:17 PM + 3/21/2010, Ted Treen wrote:
Dan wrote:
At 4:35 PM + 3/21/2010, Ted Treen wrote:
G5 Early 2005 Dual 2.0, 4GB RAM, 10.5.8
Message is repeated many times (between 6 and 20+ ish) and reads:-
Mar 21 16:29:37 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440}
UniNEnet::restartReceiver
Is this indicative of a problem I should be solving?
Just repeated in one block, or over and over at later times? Were
there any network outtages at the time? Sleep/wake cycles? Try
reseating your ethernet cables.
The message is repeated constantly - timed intervals vary between 40
seconds and sometimes as much as 10 mins.
No network problems (1 Mac connected to ethernet router for ADSL)
Have reseated all cables - and even tried others.
It could be a dying ethernet interface. I'm hoping it's the
interface at the other end tho, not the one in your Mac. Try a
different port on the router. Try connecting to a separate ethernet
switch.
Have you installed anything that could interfere with the NIC?
LittleSnitch etc? If so, trying disabling them. (long shot - I'm
leaning toward a growing hardware issue).
- Dan.
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Re: boot image
On 3/21/10 10:40 AM, peter wrote: Perhaps it's time for me to do that, I think I'll have to go through the entire proccess again in order to remember, so don't expect the post right away. Thanks a lot for your time. I'm looking forward to it. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Blackscreen no chime
Hi all, I tried to get my daughter's PB G4 1.67GHz Al book to start up... Here's what she told me: recently, every time she used the pb with the power cord, any slight movement and the of the cord would cause the pb to go off and she had to anchor it so that she could charge the pb. I thought that she might have a short. The cord wasn't the original... it looks like the cheaper one you can get from OWC. She bought a similar cord on ebay and when she plugged it in, nothing happened. This replacement cord has a green light on it, which didn't light up. She then took the black extension cord from the cord set that was failing and tried to use it with the new cord. She still got a black screen but now a whine came along with it. I wasn't sure if there was a HD failure so I inserted a 10.1.4 startup CD, the only one I have besides 10.5 and it's probably the wrong one to have tried. Now the pb has a CD stuck in it. PITA! I thought that the PRAM might have gotten corrupt. I took one of my working original equipment power cords and connected. Black screen with whine. I zapped the PRAM... same result. I looked up how to reset the PMU for this model, reset PMU... and got a black screen with whine. I can also hear the whistle of the CD spinning up each time I try to start up... but can't eject it. The whine doesn't seem to sound like a HD problem. If it were the HD, wouldn't we get a bong, and eventually a question mark because a HD couldn't be found? I don't know where to go from here except to Apple... I hope that I can get this solved with your help. Thanks in advance. dan_A = http://web.mac.com/danauerbach = -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Blackscreen no chime
On 3/21/10 2:05 PM, Dan Auerbach wrote: I thought that the PRAM might have gotten corrupt. I took one of my working original equipment power cords and connected. Black screen with whine. I zapped the PRAM... same result. I looked up how to reset the PMU for this model, reset PMU... and got a black screen with whine. I can also hear the whistle of the CD spinning up each time I try to start up... but can't eject it. The whine doesn't seem to sound like a HD problem. If it were the HD, wouldn't we get a bong, and eventually a question mark because a HD couldn't be found? I don't know where to go from here except to Apple... I hope that I can get this solved with your help. Thanks in advance. Search this group. I have the same PB with very similar problems. Some folks here have helped going on 3 years or more now, and I can't still can't sort it out. Though I'm inclined to think it's the logic board that's gone nuts, particularly, the IDE channel. If I put the HD in an external case, it boots and works fine. But the optical drive won't work. So, give it a go, get/buy an external Firewire drive...ONLY AFTER YOU'VE HEARD FROM OTHERS...and then boot from that and see what happens. Might be a different problem but it's worth the try. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
On Mar 21, 2010, at 11:10 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Jim Scott wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 21, 2010, at 10:02 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I'm wondering If I may have a machine problem and not a failing HDD? Because when I put it back in the G4 MDD again I got the S.M.A.R.T warning. SMART reporting is done on the hard drive itself, so if SMART is reporting a failure, then the drive is bad. I'd return it to seagate for replacement under warrantee. Agreed. To confirm the Seagate is failing, put it in another machine on which SMARTReporter is installed. In my experience, hard drives with SMART capabilities lose them when installed in an external drive. That's why a utility like Drive Genius 2 comes in handy when sorting out external drive issues. I ran Drive Genius 2 on the drive and it passed but back in the SMART situation it continues to fail. Disk Utility and DiskWarrior also pass it in an external enclosure. Which Drive Genius 2 test did you run? I suspect you just ran the Scan (for bad sector) test. I've got a stack of drives that pass that, multiple times. But the same drives have failed the Integrity Check test, especially when set to do Sustained Read and/or Sustained Write for more than 5 minutes (I use 30 minutes most of the time). SMART is much more sophisticated. It looks for and picks up all kinds of anomalies that Drive Genius 2, Disk Utility and DiskWarrior don't. It only takes one little anomaly to turn the icon red, if I understand correctly. That's an early warning of impending failure. I've seen drives run for months with a red icon, and I've seen them die shortly after the icon turns red. It all depends on the failure mode(s). Click on the SmartReporter icon and then Display Log, which should give an indication of the type of failure the built-in self-diagnostic SMART utility has found. Whatever you do, make sure you get a new drive and that Seagate replaces the one with a SMART warning. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
Which Drive Genius 2 test did you run? I suspect you just ran the Scan (for bad sector) test. I've got a stack of drives that pass that, multiple times. But the same drives have failed the Integrity Check test, especially when set to do Sustained Read and/or Sustained Write for more than 5 minutes (I use 30 minutes most of the time). I ran the verify and also the repair with Drive Genius 2. Now I'll run the integrity Sustained Write test and see what that produces. SMART is much more sophisticated. It looks for and picks up all kinds of anomalies that Drive Genius 2, Disk Utility and DiskWarrior don't. It only takes one little anomaly to turn the icon red, if I understand correctly. That's an early warning of impending failure. I've seen drives run for months with a red icon, and I've seen them die shortly after the icon turns red. It all depends on the failure mode(s). Click on the SmartReporter icon and then Display Log, which should give an indication of the type of failure the built-in self-diagnostic SMART utility has found. Whatever you do, make sure you get a new drive and that Seagate replaces the one with a SMART warning. Jim Scott I think the drive is about a year and a half old so I wonder about Seatate giving me a new one also I don't have the receipt. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
Most external drive enclosures and docks do not have the ability to work with SMART. Most docks/enclosures don't have the firmware to allow SMART info to pass. This is unrelated to usb or firewire or ide or sata. If SMART Utility says the drive is failing, it's failing. It can't tell you how much time you have, it can only mention that signs of failure exist. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
I understand that a hard drive made by seagate would fail. I have had 3 had drives for my laptop all from segate, and they all failed. now i have my western digital HDD 750GB and it works for 2 years now. also, my windows server 2008 system back at mt place has had a hard drive replacement from segate, and i got western digital drives for it, now it runs smoothly. Here's a tip: unless you want your data lost, I won't ever recommend a seagate hdd. buy a western digital or one made by maxtor, ibm, or apple. Segate drives have low quality and most crash within the first 1-3 years. I am not saying any crap, i am simply stating the facts based on the events that happened to me, my friends, and others who buy seagate drives. if you are one of those lucky people who don't have segate drives die on you, then well, obviousy you have a Rare good drive that was made by seagate. its not the company that is bad, it's the drives and the way they make them, and the parts. =(. I'm sorry but it's true. Sorry buddy, you are in the same tight corner that i was in when my laptop died on me., -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
My iMac G3 died
Hey everybody, I am trying to install OS X tiger on my computer, but no luck is coming my way. IHere is what happened. I had jaguar on it before, and i installed the game FLY! using OS classinc mode. When i ran it, the system shutdown, turned blank, and it had a folder with a flashing mac and question mark in it. I waited 50 minutes and no luck. I plugged in an external HDD (which was my backup drive) and restarted and pressed OPTION+COMMAND+P+R it reset the system or open firmware. When i started it up, the apple logo showed up and then the screen had a bunch of unusual grey letters all over it. I know what a kernel panic is, but it did not say it was one. I want OS X tiger back on it. I have been using macs for 10 years now and this has never happened to my iMac before. 600Mhz PowerPC G3 40GB HDD 512MB PC133 SDRAM Graphite iMac G3 MFG date 7/6/2001 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
Apple doesn't make hard drives, they just stick their logo on drives made by other manufacturers. buy a western digital or one made by maxtor, ibm, or apple. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
Chance Reecher wrote: Apple doesn't make hard drives, they just stick their logo on drives made by other manufacturers. I wonder if apple drives have different firmware? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
RAID
All, I am trying to setup a server on my QuickSilver DP 1.0 computer running OS X Server 10.4.11. I would like to setup RAID 5. I have 4 160GB ATA/133 Hard Drives for this purpose. However, I am have a very difficult time trying to find any PCI RAID Controllers for IDE that support RAID 5. I would go software route but it seems that Apple decided not to go the LVM router like unix and linux does so there is no implementation of RAID 5 software wise. I've heard of something called RAID-Z but that sounds like its only available for Leopard or Snow Leopard. Does anyone have any suggestions or routes I can try? Thank You, Albert Carter Reston, VA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I understand that a hard drive made by seagate would fail. I have had 3 had drives for my laptop all from segate, and they all failed. now i have my western digital HDD 750GB and it works for 2 years now. also, my windows server 2008 system back at mt place has had a hard drive replacement from segate, and i got western digital drives for it, now it runs smoothly. Here's a tip: unless you want your data lost, I won't ever recommend a seagate hdd. buy a western digital or one made by maxtor, ibm, or apple. Segate drives have low quality and most crash within the first 1-3 years. I am not saying any crap, i am simply stating the facts based on the events that happened to me, my friends, and others who buy seagate drives. if you are one of those lucky people who don't have segate drives die on you, then well, obviousy you have a Rare good drive that was made by seagate. its not the company that is bad, it's the drives and the way they make them, and the parts. =(. I'm sorry but it's true. I have mostly seagate drives and I've never had one fail. I've got a few western digitals and they've held up. The hitachi in my iBook has 2 years on it and looks good. 2 samsung 500GB SATA's in my main tower have 3 years of hard service on them. I haven't ever had a maxtor last more than a year or so. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Hard drive failing
I have mostly seagate drives and I've never had one fail. I've got a few western digitals and they've held up. The hitachi in my iBook has 2 years on it and looks good. 2 samsung 500GB SATA's in my main tower have 3 years of hard service on them. I haven't ever had a maxtor last more than a year or so. -- The only drives I've had fail in ten years are Maxtor and Toshiba. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Mac's can't connect to WAP
Hey, I was just told by the Hotel that inhabits 1/2 of one of my buildings here that their guests with Macs can't connect to the free wireless. They have been running into a brick wall with Time Warner Cable, and their guests are angry... Apparently this has been going on for a while. Even though we own the building, we aren't supposed to touch time warner's stuff. I can tell you that the router is unbranded, and the WAPs are b/g D-Links, Windows users don't have a problem. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: RAID
With four drives and Tiger you can do a RAID 0+1. Make two stripes, then mirror them. It's not as efficient, but works. I use it on a G4 Xserve with four 500Gb drives. The other idea that occurs is to get one of the RAID pci cards that were made for the G5 Xserves. I think they might do what you want. They are for SATA drives. I've seen them on eBay, but can be pricey. --- On Sun, 3/21/10, Albert Carter slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote: I am trying to setup a server on my QuickSilver DP 1.0 computer running OS X Server 10.4.11. I would like to setup RAID 5. I have 4 160GB ATA/133 Hard Drives for this purpose. However, I am have a very difficult time trying to find any PCI RAID Controllers for IDE that support RAID 5. I would go software route but it seems that Apple decided not to go the LVM router like unix and linux does so there is no implementation of RAID 5 software wise. I've heard of something called RAID-Z but that sounds like its only available for Leopard or Snow Leopard. Does anyone have any suggestions or routes I can try? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: RAID
Do you lose much in performance between RAID 5 and RAID 0+1? I got a brand new (factory sealed) Hard Drive Controller Card I don't think it does RAID but I paid like $20 for it off Craigslist. It supports ATA/ 133 since the default controller on board for the QuickSilver is only a ATA/66 maybe a ATA/100. Can you boot to RAID 0+1 if its done as a Software RAID? On Mar 21, 7:51 pm, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: With four drives and Tiger you can do a RAID 0+1. Make two stripes, then mirror them. It's not as efficient, but works. I use it on a G4 Xserve with four 500Gb drives. The other idea that occurs is to get one of the RAID pci cards that were made for the G5 Xserves. I think they might do what you want. They are for SATA drives. I've seen them on eBay, but can be pricey. --- On Sun, 3/21/10, Albert Carter slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote: I am trying to setup a server on my QuickSilver DP 1.0 computer running OS X Server 10.4.11. I would like to setup RAID 5. I have 4 160GB ATA/133 Hard Drives for this purpose. However, I am have a very difficult time trying to find any PCI RAID Controllers for IDE that support RAID 5. I would go software route but it seems that Apple decided not to go the LVM router like unix and linux does so there is no implementation of RAID 5 software wise. I've heard of something called RAID-Z but that sounds like its only available for Leopard or Snow Leopard. Does anyone have any suggestions or routes I can try? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Upgrading a Sawtooth
It has 128mb,it supports the resolution..the max for it is: 2048x1536 @60Hz On Mar 21, 1:26 pm, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.net wrote: I don't know if the screen resolution is going to slow down your browsing. The question is, can your video card handle the resolution of the screen with the amount of video ram the card has? How much video ram does the card have and what resolutions are supported? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Upgrading a Sawtooth
Thanks for the reply Eric. As said above,I didn't upgraded the CPU and don't plan to do it... Now,even with a 17' CRT I know that the crappy ati 16mb is the bottleneck,so guess I'll spend 20eur in a pc 9700pro and flash it to mac.. For a while I was using a 9700 Pro (in a dual G5) to drive a 1600x1024 Apple Cinema Display. I had no problems. Not a direct answer, but as close as I can give you. I'd be more concerned about the slow CPU than the video card, unless you've upgraded from stock. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 5:31 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I ran the verify and also the repair with Drive Genius 2. Now I'll run the integrity Sustained Write test and see what that produces. It is usally pointed out in situations such as this one that only YOU know how valuable your data is to you. If it were me and I had seen a drive failure indication I thought potentially credible then I wouldn't even look at the icon of a test program until I had backed up/saved any data I truly valued from that drive. I certainly wouldn't run any type of sustained test which might elicit a drive failure until I'd backed up all that I could. Once the data is safe, then I'd happily true to beat the crap out of it with hopes of returning it under warranty. But I'd only do that after I saved as much of my data as could. But maybe that's just me. I think the drive is about a year and a half old so I wonder about Seatate giving me a new one also I don't have the receipt. The drive manufacturers don't care when you bought the drive. The serial number of your drive is used to determine when the warranty on it expires. The warranty period is determined based on when the drive was manufactured. If you go to the support section of the Seagate web site you'll find a web page there which will let you check the warranty on your drive. You'll be asked to enter the serial number of your drive (... and possibly the model number?). -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: A way to select order of pix load in iPhoto
--- On Sun, 3/21/10, Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net wrote: From: Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net Subject: Re: A way to select order of pix load in iPhoto To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 1:26 AM Jonas Lopez wrote: A way to select order of pix load in iPhoto on G4, 10.4.11? I have a digital camera with a memory that I insert in a USB reader causing iPhoto to launch and load ALL 250 PIX. I only shot the last 10, so only want to load the last 10. Is there a way to select the order of pix loading? Could not find a way to tell it to load the last ones first. JML. With my Canon A70, I have to tell it not to download duplicates every time I download from the camera. It will look and check for each shot as it does the download. Yes, yes, so how do you tell iPhoto to do this? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
The drive manufacturers don't care when you bought the drive. The serial number of your drive is used to determine when the warranty on it expires. The warranty period is determined based on when the drive was manufactured. If you go to the support section of the Seagate web site you'll find a web page there which will let you check the warranty on your drive. You'll be asked to enter the serial number of your drive (... and possibly the model number?). As soon as the drive is done being copied I'll check for the warranty, Thanks for this info. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: RAID
I believe that RAID 5 would be more efficient in it's use of disk space yet still retain the data protection. Basically my RAID 0+1 uses 2Gb of space to provide 1Gb usable, and yes, it's setup as one boot volume. I keep my mp3 and video collection on it. Frankly, I'm not sure you would notice the performance difference. Unless you already have the drives that you want to use, I'd seriously look at a SATA controller. I have used a Sonnet model that would boot from a RAID with two drives. SATA drives are much more common these days. Maybe just get two large ones and setup a RAID 1 mirror. My choice was largely determined by the Xserve which has four drive bays and had to be PATA. --- On Sun, 3/21/10, Albert Carter slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote: Do you lose much in performance between RAID 5 and RAID 0+1? I got a brand new (factory sealed) Hard Drive Controller Card I don't think it does RAID but I paid like $20 for it off Craigslist. It supports ATA/ 133 since the default controller on board for the QuickSilver is only a ATA/66 maybe a ATA/100. Can you boot to RAID 0+1 if its done as a Software RAID? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
The warranty period is determined based on when the drive was manufactured. If you go to the support section of the Seagate web site you'll find a web page there which will let you check the warranty on your drive. You'll be asked to enter the serial number of your drive (... and possibly the model number?). -irrational john I made a request for warranty service from Seagate's site so maybe I'll get lucky on this one. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Mac's can't connect to WAP
peter wrote: Hey, I was just told by the Hotel that inhabits 1/2 of one of my buildings here that their guests with Macs can't connect to the free wireless. They have been running into a brick wall with Time Warner Cable, and their guests are angry... Apparently this has been going on for a while. Even though we own the building, we aren't supposed to touch time warner's stuff. I can tell you that the router is unbranded, and the WAPs are b/g D-Links, Windows users don't have a problem. Any ideas? I've known some ISP's to use some weird proprietary software. I had a friend recently who left ATT when his working Xubuntu setup d ied after a software upgrade at ATT. He tried everything and then they told him he'd have to use windows because their new software didn't support linux. He got a new ISP instead. I'd suggest you inform whoever is supposed to be handling the system to fix it or you'll get a new provider. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: boot image
On 3/21/10 6:41 PM, Stewie de Young wrote: The PC card cost me only $5 on ebay whereas the 16Gb cost me $30 but well worth it. Can to send details on these. I've been wanting to look into it, but would rather get a package that works. Also, if you say the seller you got them from on Ebay, that would be good. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Hard drive failing
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:26 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: I made a request for warranty service from Seagate's site so maybe I'll get lucky on this one. Hm, this didn't occur to me before but whenever I've looked at going down the RMA under warranty path before I've always been in a Windows PC frame of mind. I'm not sure how they work things when you're using a Mac, especially a PPC Mac. I am used to a manufacturer asking to first have the drive checked by running their own diagnostic program. Of course, I wouldn't be at all surprised if whatever diagnostic program they want used only runs on a windows (or at least x86) PC. Not saying they won't replace the drive if it's defective. Just saying I'm not quite sure how Seagate will ask you to handle this. Maybe someone else on the list has already done a drive RMA for a PPC Mac and can flesh out how that worked for them? -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Mac's can't connect to WAP
On Mar 21, 2010, at 11:37 PM, void wrote: I'd suggest you inform whoever is supposed to be handling the system to fix it or you'll get a new provider. Unfortunately, our company owns the building, which includes a hotel, and we contract out to a hospitality company who gets the franchise rights from (Major hotel chain to be unnamed at this time), who make the decisions regarding their standards for this sort of thing. As a maintenance tech for the building owner, I have very little influence with the Hotel Corporation, nor do the hotel managers, except to put in their complaints whenever this comes up. A little more detail: -the only case I have confirmed info on was one from today, The guest had a macbook pro, and she tried both Safari 4, and Firefox. -Apparently what happens is that guests get to the first screen (where they are supposed to agree to terms and conditions) and only a few graphics load, and the agree button is not usually one of them. -Some people have gotten past this screen, only to be bumped off the internet 10-15 min. afterwards. -I was not clear on this, but I think that the hotel manager said that the same thing happens when the Guests try hooking into the ethernet ports in their rooms. -Meanwhile, every PC that comes through there has no problem, they had a dell and a macbook sitting right next to each other, and the dell was fine. Could that agreement page be the cause? What would cause people to get bumped off afterwards? They have only asked me because they knew I was a mac person, if there is a user level work around, that would be the best I can do at this point. As far as testing, I can only bring a Clamshell or Lombard in, and my USB wireless dongle is currently fried, so I could only test via ethernet. (maybe the hotel will have to buy me hex-core macbook pro... or whatever is coming out in the next revision ;) Purely for testing purposes of course! no? at least a new wireless card/dongle? How about a bag of chips?) FWIW, there is a Starbucks on the first floor, where I've seen every flavor of mac surfing on their WiFi, and the same goes for the secured networks in the various offices that take up the other 1/2 of the building... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
