Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On Jun 16, 2009, at 11:01 PM, MaGioZal wrote: On 6/16/09 1:28 AM, Po-en Tsai at poen.t...@gmail.com wrote: Or, like me, I would switch onto my Panther 10.3 partition, running Firefox 2.04 to watch anything Flash based. It seems to work for me, and Youtube works fine like that. Upgrading ram may help, with my iMac, I had 512mb ram, but upgraded to 768mb, which sped flash up a bit. Well, when I run primairly Mac OS 9 here with Mozilla 1.2.1 and Flash 7, YouTibe videos also ran very badly, too. I am a Beige G3 owner. I made a mistake saying it was 768, I actually have the ram maxed out at a gig. This is really sad. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
Stephen Weber wrote: I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too. You need a computer with a processor better than a G3 or a early G4. It's because flash is a CPU hog. Well that's fine, but my Pismo 400 runs Youtube well, way, better than the Ti G4. Stephen Weber On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com mailto:nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Trusty Pismo was not this horrible. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? I'm using both the latest---non rpm--version of FF and Safari 3.x. Horrible video, and by that is meant; very jerky. Running 10.4 with 768 ram. Fully updated, except for the latest Safari. Ideas, suggestions? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On 16/06/2009, at 3:24 PM, nestamicky wrote: Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Trusty Pismo was not this horrible. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? I'm using both the latest---non rpm--version of FF and Safari 3.x. Horrible video, and by that is meant; very jerky. Running 10.4 with 768 ram. Fully updated, except for the latest Safari. Ideas, suggestions? If you are just going to watch Youtube, I would suggest you get a Youtube downloader (Google, and it will easily be found), and watch the downloaded Youtube on something like VLC. Or, like me, I would switch onto my Panther 10.3 partition, running Firefox 2.04 to watch anything Flash based. It seems to work for me, and Youtube works fine like that. Upgrading ram may help, with my iMac, I had 512mb ram, but upgraded to 768mb, which sped flash up a bit. Thanks, Po-en Tsai -- iMac G3 350 MHz, running OSX 10.4, 10.3 and OS 9.2.2 with 768MB ram. Quite speedy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On Jun 15, 2009, at 10:44 PM, nestamicky wrote: Well that's fine, but my Pismo 400 runs Youtube well, way, better than the Ti G4. Have you tried enabling Quartz Extreme on the TiBook? If not, it might be worth a try, using PCI Extreme 3.1 from MacUpdate. It works fine under 10.4.11 on my Beige G4 upgraded with Radeon 9100. I've never known anyone who enabled the 8MB Radeon of the TiBook, but it is supported by PCI Extreme, although I think it's a slightly special install? I've also heard that enabling Quartz Extreme on these really too small VRAM Radeon's can slow down video playback even more, so it would be good to find some type of benchmarks beforehand, and then measure the difference after enabling Quartz Extreme. If it's slower, just uninstall PCI Extreme and revert. To be sure Quartz Extreme is working you can use QuartzExtreme Check 1.2. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too. You need a computer with a processor better than a G3 or a early G4. It's because flash is a CPU hog. I've had some Pentium III PC laptops that were equivalent MHz to G3 and early G4 Apples. It always bothered me immensely that a 700MHz PIII could play almost all video completely smoothly with an 8MB Radeon video card; and a G4 PowerBook with 8MB Radeon, or G3 700-900MHz iBook with 16MB Radeon both completely choke on even simple video, and coaxing any smooth video playback is a real chore. I used such a 700MHz PIII to watch the Beijing Olympics online via MS Silverlight (which has no PPC Mac port), and it displayed fine on my 40 Samsung LCD TV. Conversely, my G4 Mini with 32MB Radeon seems to stutter from time-to-time on lots of different video formats, and it's running at 1.58GHz, over twice as fast as the PIII. The bus width should double that speed again, so on the face I'd think the Mini was minimally 4x faster CPU/Bus, with 4x the VRAM, and 2x the RAM (1GB vs 512MB), and yet for video playback the PIII won hands down? What's the deal? Kris your case is sad, really sad. And I wish someone out there could explainwhat's the deal? I would think, being completely drunk, that a 1.58 ghz machine would beat a P3 machine. I do have a P3 laptop of similar specs like yours and never noticed this kinds of issues. And when I moved to the G4 from my Pismothough not completely yet---I thought all this kinds of problems history. I guess not. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On Jun 15, 2009, at 10:52 PM, nestamicky wrote: I would think, being completely drunk, that a 1.58 ghz machine would beat a P3 machine. I may have misstated the PIII speed, I could never quite figure it out? It's a Compaq Presario 1710 with a 1GHz CPU, and sometimes it seemed to report 1GHz speed, but the specifications of the model seemed to top-out at 700MHz, and sometimes it reported 700MHz as the speed. I don't know Windows stuff at all, and didn't care, it was a free laptop, which I've since donated away to another (un)lucky soul who only knows Windows. He's having all sorts of problems (virus, spyware, slow connection related) and I need to get him onto a Mac ASAP, but don't have any spare ones that can play video, a minimal requirement. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM, nestamickynestami...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Trusty Pismo was not this horrible. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? I'm using both the latest---non rpm--version of FF and Safari 3.x. Horrible video, and by that is meant; very jerky. Running 10.4 with 768 ram. Fully updated, except for the latest Safari. Ideas, suggestions? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
At 5:52 AM -0500 6/16/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 10:52 PM, nestamicky wrote: I would think, being completely drunk, that a 1.58 ghz machine would beat a P3 machine. Adobe put a lot of work into making Flash look great under Windoze. I think they've barely given it a thought on the Mac... FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
At 9:24 PM -0600 6/15/2009, nestamicky wrote: G4 Titanium 400Mhz Running 10.4 with 768 ram. Fully updated, except for the latest Safari. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Flash sucks, and it has gotten worse this past year. Ditto for the more advanced codecs in QuickTime. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? Doubtful. Browser speed is moot here. This is all about the plug-in's speed - Flash or QuickTime. I think most stuff on YouTube is Flash but it's moving to H.264? From the hardware point of view, this is about sheer number crunching speed. These plug-ins use very little memory or disk i/o. They just need more power with which to rebuild the compressed data frames. Some of this crunching can be off-loaded into the graphics processor (GPU) on the video card. That's what technologies like Quartz Extreme are ultimately all about. If your machine supports it, make sure it's enabled. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
Dan H.264 I believe is the codec that Youtube uses for storing the files on the server, not what plug in it's using to play the files on the web browser. Stephen Weber On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:24 PM -0600 6/15/2009, nestamicky wrote: G4 Titanium 400Mhz Running 10.4 with 768 ram. Fully updated, except for the latest Safari. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Flash sucks, and it has gotten worse this past year. Ditto for the more advanced codecs in QuickTime. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? Doubtful. Browser speed is moot here. This is all about the plug-in's speed - Flash or QuickTime. I think most stuff on YouTube is Flash but it's moving to H.264? From the hardware point of view, this is about sheer number crunching speed. These plug-ins use very little memory or disk i/o. They just need more power with which to rebuild the compressed data frames. Some of this crunching can be off-loaded into the graphics processor (GPU) on the video card. That's what technologies like Quartz Extreme are ultimately all about. If your machine supports it, make sure it's enabled. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:44 PM, nestamickynestami...@gmail.com wrote: Stephen Weber wrote: I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too. You need a computer with a processor better than a G3 or a early G4. It's because flash is a CPU hog. Well that's fine, but my Pismo 400 runs Youtube well, way, better than the Ti G4. ___ Sharing the configuration details would be a constructive way to help the original poster. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
I replaced my 400 Mhz processor on my G4 Sawtooth with a 1.5 Ghz Mercury CPU with 3 MB Level 3 cache, and it has made a great deal of difference. Even with the standard ATI Rage 128 16 MB AGP video card. I also increased the RAM from 896 MB to 2 GB. I would like to get a PCI card based wireless card working and replaced the Airport Card in it so I could run the wireless connection at 802.11(n) when I get my new Airport Express or Extreme base station. I did find that when I got my MacBook White Core 2 Duo 2 Ghz with 2 GB RAM (I've since upgraded it to 4 GB RAM) and the Nvidia GeForce 9400M video processor that downloads are far faster than on my iBook G3 800 Mhz with 640 MB RAM and 32 MB video card, so my suspicion that my slow downloads speed were due to my Apple Express base station running at 802.11(b) in my Internet connection was incorrect. The download is blazingingly fast on the MacBook and will even improve once I get a new Airport Express or Extreme base station. --- On Tue, 6/16/09, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 2:34 PM At 9:24 PM -0600 6/15/2009, nestamicky wrote: G4 Titanium 400Mhz Running 10.4 with 768 ram. Fully updated, except for the latest Safari. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Flash sucks, and it has gotten worse this past year. Ditto for the more advanced codecs in QuickTime. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? Doubtful. Browser speed is moot here. This is all about the plug-in's speed - Flash or QuickTime. I think most stuff on YouTube is Flash but it's moving to H.264? From the hardware point of view, this is about sheer number crunching speed. These plug-ins use very little memory or disk i/o. They just need more power with which to rebuild the compressed data frames. Some of this crunching can be off-loaded into the graphics processor (GPU) on the video card. That's what technologies like Quartz Extreme are ultimately all about. If your machine supports it, make sure it's enabled. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On 6/16/09 1:28 AM, Po-en Tsai at poen.t...@gmail.com wrote: Or, like me, I would switch onto my Panther 10.3 partition, running Firefox 2.04 to watch anything Flash based. It seems to work for me, and Youtube works fine like that. Upgrading ram may help, with my iMac, I had 512mb ram, but upgraded to 768mb, which sped flash up a bit. Well, when I run primairly Mac OS 9 here with Mozilla 1.2.1 and Flash 7, YouTibe videos also ran very badly, too. I am a Beige G3 owner. -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Horrible, horrible, horrible video
Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Trusty Pismo was not this horrible. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? I'm using both the latest---non rpm--version of FF and Safari 3.x. Horrible video, and by that is meant; very jerky. Running 10.4 with 768 ram. Fully updated, except for the latest Safari. Ideas, suggestions? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too. You need a computer with a processor better than a G3 or a early G4. It's because flash is a CPU hog. Stephen Weber On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Trusty Pismo was not this horrible. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? I'm using both the latest---non rpm--version of FF and Safari 3.x. Horrible video, and by that is meant; very jerky. Running 10.4 with 768 ram. Fully updated, except for the latest Safari. Ideas, suggestions? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On Jun 15, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too. You need a computer with a processor better than a G3 or a early G4. It's because flash is a CPU hog. I've had some Pentium III PC laptops that were equivalent MHz to G3 and early G4 Apples. It always bothered me immensely that a 700MHz PIII could play almost all video completely smoothly with an 8MB Radeon video card; and a G4 PowerBook with 8MB Radeon, or G3 700-900MHz iBook with 16MB Radeon both completely choke on even simple video, and coaxing any smooth video playback is a real chore. I used such a 700MHz PIII to watch the Beijing Olympics online via MS Silverlight (which has no PPC Mac port), and it displayed fine on my 40 Samsung LCD TV. Conversely, my G4 Mini with 32MB Radeon seems to stutter from time-to-time on lots of different video formats, and it's running at 1.58GHz, over twice as fast as the PIII. The bus width should double that speed again, so on the face I'd think the Mini was minimally 4x faster CPU/Bus, with 4x the VRAM, and 2x the RAM (1GB vs 512MB), and yet for video playback the PIII won hands down? What's the deal? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On 6/16/09 1:08 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio at fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming you need to stick with this machine my first suggestion is to max the RAM. You could also try adjusting caching if at all possible. You may also have virtual memory turned on which I believe may account for the jerkiness. You say it is crappy on any video site. As an experiment put IE5 on it and look for some Windows video. That worked for my old 9600 300 MHz. Well, I'm here on a 266MHz G3 with 512MB of RAM and 10.4, and YouTube is very crappy here -- I can see the video in slow motion mode and an unsynchronized audio, even when the YouTube file is completely buffered/downloaded. Should it be fault of the 6MB VRAM onboard video, too? -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:14 AM, MaGioZalmagio...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/16/09 1:08 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio at fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming you need to stick with this machine my first suggestion is to max the RAM. You could also try adjusting caching if at all possible. You may also have virtual memory turned on which I believe may account for the jerkiness. You say it is crappy on any video site. As an experiment put IE5 on it and look for some Windows video. That worked for my old 9600 300 MHz. Well, I'm here on a 266MHz G3 with 512MB of RAM and 10.4, and YouTube is very crappy here -- I can see the video in slow motion mode and an unsynchronized audio, even when the YouTube file is completely buffered/downloaded. Should it be fault of the 6MB VRAM onboard video, too? __- How much RAM free space do you have left after OS X loads? Not much is it ? Also you could try putting a faster cpu in it unless it is soldered in. A PCI video card may help. But maybe not. Because you fully download before playing I assume your connection is perhaps dial-up. Will the machine accept a full Gig of RAM? But 233 MHz may be just too overworked. Unless the files are quite small. Will the file fit in RAM? I doubt it. Is virtual memory turned on ? Probably. Every time VM has to search for the next frames to buffer you get a hesitation. You might try OS 9 and find it works somewhat better. But probably not as much as you hope. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
Good. I just tried to make a few copies. Already failed 2 out of 3. Lots of wasted media. Dual-layer is a real pain. Mohamad On Jun 15, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: I have a G3 600mhz iMac and runs bad on yourtube too. You need a computer with a processor better than a G3 or a early G4. It's because flash is a CPU hog. Stephen Weber On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for reading. It's my G4 Titanium 400Mhz. It's crap on any video site, including Youtube. Trusty Pismo was not this horrible. Now, Dan, would rpm save me here? I'm using both the latest---non rpm--version of FF and Safari 3.x. Horrible video, and by that is meant; very jerky. Running 10.4 with 768 ram. Fully updated, except for the latest Safari. Ideas, suggestions? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Horrible, horrible, horrible video
On 6/16/09 2:46 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio at fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Because you fully download before playing I assume your connection is perhaps dial-up. No, it isn't -- it's a slow, 256kbps cable-modem connection... Will the machine accept a full Gig of RAM? Close to this -- 768MB of RAM. But 233 MHz may be just too overworked. Unless the files are quite small. In fact, the velocity of my G3's processor is 266MHz. -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
