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At 4:00 AM + 6/14/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Dan mailto:dantear...@gmail.comdantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:01 PM + 6/13/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. Be comforted, that in the face of all irridity and disillusionment, and despite the changing fortunes of time, there is always a big future in computer maintenance. __ irridity ? ? 9 online dictionaries including the Oxford compact, and my trusty print Webster's Collegiate finds nothing for that one. I think it may mean stanziphramis. I tried to figure out the possible typos also. nada Yes, beat the typo to death. aridity. You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, The universe is laughing behind your back. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Dan wrote: At 4:00 AM + 6/14/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Dan mailto:dantear...@gmail.comdantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:01 PM + 6/13/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. Be comforted, that in the face of all irridity and disillusionment, and despite the changing fortunes of time, there is always a big future in computer maintenance. __ irridity ? ? 9 online dictionaries including the Oxford compact, and my trusty print Webster's Collegiate finds nothing for that one. I think it may mean stanziphramis. I tried to figure out the possible typos also. nada Yes, beat the typo to death. aridity. You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, The universe is laughing behind your back. Wow! Now I understand the meaning of life... JT Get Cheaper Car Insurance Are You Currently Insured But Are You Paying Too Much? Find The Best Rates For You Today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c15cc17428383c71c5st01duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, 14 June, 2010 4:45:38 Subject: Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.net wrote: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. I have tried to teach that very class for the last 7 years. Most of my students could not care less about what I am talking about. They are there to fulfill the state requirements for a technology class and once they achieve that, they have no idea what you have talked about, because they have already forgotten it. In 7 years of teaching I have had 4 students say they have used something I taught them in a college class they had later in life. The vast majority of my students are convinced that they already know all there is to know about using a computer and they have no intention of learning more. Rarely do I get a student who is actually wanting to learn. Most of the time I get the student who tells me there is no way Ohm's Law will work. Peace, Dennis ___ I can understand that in an office drone paper shuffler who is on the IT lockout track. But media types of all persuasions who enter small or freelance operations and ignore the need of CPU and network system practices will be a burden to their bosses and may not last long. Production deadlines for customers leave no time for rookie mistakes. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer You're right in what you say, but at least here in the UK, stereotypes - at least in the bosses' eyes - still rule. I was a techie/systems programmer back in the seventies/early eighties, in the days of wood-burning, steam-powered computers. I switched allegiance to Macs in the mid eighties, and have remained a Mac techie ever since. As a frustrated artist, and keen photographer, I found the whole Mac experience tremendous, so I became a user as well, rather than a pure techie. I am still, despite having just turned 60, a graphic designer in a large company which is very Windows orientated (despite most of IT dep't having a Mac at home). IT leave it to me to look after our small establishment of 5 Macs, which is no great hassle, and I still enjoy stretching CS5 (just received) and CS3 to the limit;- well, it's more a case of exploring all of it's capabilities, rather than stretching them. But people still seem amazed to find a designer who knows, understands loves Macs - or from the other point of viw, a techie who knows, understands loves design, typography c. Seems they've got it fixed in their heads you can be one or the other, bit not both. Best to all, Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote: ___ You're right in what you say, but at least here in the UK, stereotypes - at least in the bosses' eyes - still rule. I was a techie/systems programmer back in the seventies/early eighties, in the days of wood-burning, steam-powered computers. I switched allegiance to Macs in the mid eighties, and have remained a Mac techie ever since. As a frustrated artist, and keen photographer, I found the whole Mac experience tremendous, so I became a user as well, rather than a pure techie. I am still, despite having just turned 60, a graphic designer in a large company which is very Windows orientated (despite most of IT dep't having a Mac at home). IT leave it to me to look after our small establishment of 5 Macs, which is no great hassle, and I still enjoy stretching CS5 (just received) and CS3 to the limit;- well, it's more a case of exploring all of it's capabilities, rather than stretching them. But people still seem amazed to find a designer who knows, understands loves Macs - or from the other point of viw, a techie who knows, understands loves design, typography c. Seems they've got it fixed in their heads you can be one or the other, bit not both. Best to all, Ted -- -- _ Taking media production classes at first was all on PCs. The Macs were in another building with the print Newsies. ( The Taylor Hall you see in all of the newsreels of the slaughter). But an old hall has been refurbished and modernized. Macs rule there ( PCs in minor roles) in all media classes now. and in Student and PBS broadcast and web operations as well which are linked there too. Give me Macs and Adobe software along with FCP and Logic and I can just work. Very little IT aid needed. Only when student wear and mostly tear do a machine harm. Some raised on PCs take their frustrations out on Macs. That is why the expensive ones are in locked, limited access labs and classrooms and iMacs are provided for less intense Newsie activities. 25 Mac Pros fully stocked with software in a cool well lit classroom are awesome to behold. PCs are mostly in the TV studios where the expensive control software is PC only. But big Macs do the digital recording and other broadcast linking tasks. Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:33 AM, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.comwrote: On Jun 14, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Dan wrote: At 4:00 AM + 6/14/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Dan mailto:dantear...@gmail.com dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:01 PM + 6/13/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. Be comforted, that in the face of all irridity and disillusionment, and despite the changing fortunes of time, there is always a big future in computer maintenance. __ irridity ? ? 9 online dictionaries including the Oxford compact, and my trusty print Webster's Collegiate finds nothing for that one. I think it may mean stanziphramis. I tried to figure out the possible typos also. nada Yes, beat the typo to death. aridity. You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, The universe is laughing behind your back. Wow! Now I understand the meaning of life... JT Definitely the irridity -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Dan wrote: At 9:01 PM + 6/13/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. Be comforted, that in the face of all irridity and disillusionment, and despite the changing fortunes of time, there is always a big future in computer maintenance. - Dan. And we all know what the chorus and the last line of the deteriorata is. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I can understand that in an office drone paper shuffler who is on the IT lockout track. But media types of all persuasions who enter small or freelance operations and ignore the need of CPU and network system practices will be a burden to their bosses and may not last long. Production deadlines for customers leave no time for rookie mistakes. Rare is the child in high school who thinks that far ahead. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:08 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, The universe is laughing behind your back. For some reason the part that always stuck in my mind was Take heart in the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting enough cheese. And reflect that whatever misfortune may be your lot, it could only be worse in Milwaukee. But then again, I grew up in Oconomowoc so Milwaukee was not just a name to me. For those who might not have caught the reference ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deteriorata -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Jun 13, 2010, at 11:45 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.net wrote: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. I have tried to teach that very class for the last 7 years. Most of my students could not care less about what I am talking about. Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com Why not start an internet course for a small fee I would be interested. John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com If there are no dogs in Heaven, when I die I want to go where they went. --Will Rogers extreme positive = (ybya2) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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I think he meant aridity. On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: irridity John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.com If there are no dogs in Heaven, when I die I want to go where they went. --Will Rogers extreme positive = (ybya2) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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John Callahan wrote: I have tried to teach that very class for the last 7 years. Most of my students could not care less about what I am talking about. Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com Why not start an internet course for a small fee I would be interested. John Callahan Flukestringer did not post this. I posted it. It got attributed to him through someone miss editing e-mails and was most likely done solely by accident. The reason I do not even think about teaching this as an internet class is because: A. The information is already out there. If you want to know how to do paths to files and directories, there are any number of websites which will tell you how to set up a directory hierarchy. Here is one that I have used in my web design classes: http://tools.devshed.com/c/a/Website-Content/Designing-Your-Websites-Directory-Structure/ B. I have no desire to be burdened with the tax liability for something like this. C. Every computer will differ regarding resources and cpu abilities and I have NO desire to take God knows how many people by the hand and explain their capabilities to them. I am sorry. My heart just is not in it. Anywho. I just wanted to let you know that the OP was me and not Wallace. Peace, Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.netwrote: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I can understand that in an office drone paper shuffler who is on the IT lockout track. But media types of all persuasions who enter small or freelance operations and ignore the need of CPU and network system practices will be a burden to their bosses and may not last long. Production deadlines for customers leave no time for rookie mistakes. Rare is the child in high school who thinks that far ahead. But I still often hear of the generations raised on computers. I guess that does not mean much. Playing games and sneaking porn does not teach you how to handle system resources when the computers you have used have always had enough RAM, HD space, and apps to get it done and Mom and Dad patronizingly pay to have the mistakes fixed. Give 'em a 7 MHz processor and 1 MB RAM and see what they can do ! And no I am not kidding. My first layered composite image process was done on a machine of that spec. Later I had 16 MHz and 16 MB RAM. That machine sits on the floor about 2 feet from where I am now. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Give 'em a 7 MHz processor and 1 MB RAM and see what they can do ! And no I am not kidding. Uphill both ways, I presume, barefoot in the snow? 8-P My first layered composite image process was done on a machine of that spec. Later I had 16 MHz and 16 MB RAM. That machine sits on the floor about 2 feet from where I am now. RAM?? you had RAM? Luuuxury. Why we had to scratch the bits onto pieces of paper we peeled up from the floor of the butchers shop and wrote on with our own blood! Three graphics artists would die every time we did a layer mask! -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Give 'em a 7 MHz processor and 1 MB RAM and see what they can do ! And no I am not kidding. Uphill both ways, I presume, barefoot in the snow? 8-P With loose RAM slots and a dirty tape drive ! My first layered composite image process was done on a machine of that spec. Later I had 16 MHz and 16 MB RAM. That machine sits on the floor about 2 feet from where I am now. RAM?? you had RAM? Luuuxury. Yep, the early 90s saw a lot of folks unloading their super expensive used equipment to buy those Oh so reliable PCs! Why we had to scratch the bits onto pieces of paper we peeled up from the floor of the butchers shop and wrote on with our own blood! Three graphics artists would die every time we did a layer mask! But it beat getting the pottery wheel to keep a steady rpm while you held the twig to the clay trying to read the pottery grooves for data. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Why we had to scratch the bits onto pieces of paper we peeled up from the floor of the butchers shop and wrote on with our own blood! Three graphics artists would die every time we did a layer mask! Those clay jar wine vinegar acid batteries were crap too. And the wife would always be raiding them for salad dressing ! fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why we had to scratch the bits onto pieces of paper we peeled up from the floor of the butchers shop and wrote on with our own blood! Three graphics artists would die every time we did a layer mask! But it beat getting the pottery wheel to keep a steady rpm while you held the twig to the clay trying to read the pottery grooves for data. You just didn't have the right equipment! http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music2/flinstonerecord.jpg -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:34 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why we had to scratch the bits onto pieces of paper we peeled up from the floor of the butchers shop and wrote on with our own blood! Three graphics artists would die every time we did a layer mask! But it beat getting the pottery wheel to keep a steady rpm while you held the twig to the clay trying to read the pottery grooves for data. You just didn't have the right equipment! http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music2/flinstonerecord.jpg _ The turtles of the right spin rate were hard to come by. They had to be carried on donkeys from the upper Nile. Camels were too fast and the jarring made the turtles nauseous . Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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At 9:05 PM + 6/14/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: But I still often hear of the generations raised on computers. I guess that does not mean much. Playing games and sneaking porn does not teach you how to handle system resources We've been toodling around in cars for how long? 100+ years? And how many people are totally befuddled when it comes to changing a tire or even replacing their windshield wipers... heh. We're lucky if they can park between the lines! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:05 PM + 6/14/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: But I still often hear of the generations raised on computers. I guess that does not mean much. Playing games and sneaking porn does not teach you how to handle system resources We've been toodling around in cars for how long? 100+ years? And how many people are totally befuddled when it comes to changing a tire or even replacing their windshield wipers... heh. We're lucky if they can park between the lines! It makes me mad that the lines get closer together. Yet my Dodge Caravan is still pretty wide. When I had the Big old Mercury Gran Marquis I didn't care. It was a rat ride. But the Caravan is too pretty! So while I get a car that improves my credibility. it is more vulnerable to damage to take that credibility away. Hard to win. Working on getting a Gran Maqruis again for errands and manuevers. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Jun 14, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:05 PM + 6/14/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: But I still often hear of the generations raised on computers. I guess that does not mean much. Playing games and sneaking porn does not teach you how to handle system resources We've been toodling around in cars for how long? 100+ years? And how many people are totally befuddled when it comes to changing a tire or even replacing their windshield wipers... heh. We're lucky if they can park between the lines! It makes me mad that the lines get closer together. Yet my Dodge Caravan is still pretty wide. When I had the Big old Mercury Gran Marquis I didn't care. It was a rat ride. But the Caravan is too pretty! So while I get a car that improves my credibility. it is more vulnerable to damage to take that credibility away. Hard to win. Working on getting a Gran Maqruis again for errands and manuevers. Driving my Ford 250 diesel Super Duty is like my old Quadra 850 compared to the Nissan Cube as a MBP. Faster and easier to drive:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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This thread be obsolete of PowerPC ... seems like forever ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.netwrote: This thread be obsolete of PowerPC ... seems like forever ... Wrong thread Bill. This is a clearly marked spin-off regarding Rich text as a communicative tool and has gotten into a discussion of other subjects. To express the opinion that PPCs are or are not obsolete, that is the other thread.. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Chance Reecher cha...@reecher.net wrote: Hmm, the amazing discovery you made back in April, and so stupidly told the group about? Copy-Pasted from your modify the about this mac box message: Well, the reason why this is supposedly running Snow leopard on a PPC mac, is because i hacked one of the .strings files that display that system information. I actually have Leopard on it, but since Leopard and Snow Leopard's GUI on the desktop don't look too different, I waned to surprise people on how I did this. You admitted yourself that you just made Leopard look like SL. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: Heh. Really, it's not worth it now. people like you ruined my amazing discovery. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- __ List rules or no, after a decade it is nice to see rich text used on LEM to effectively communicate. Notice how the color bars pop out the relevant words and emphasize the salient points. After all of those times I forgot to switch to plain text and got flak from the plain text trogs I am glad I had rich text switched on to witness this historic LEM event. fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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My apologies. The highlighting was totally unintentional. As you may know, when you search in Gmail, it highlights the search terms in messages. So when I copied and pasted from Mark's April email, the highlighting came too. I wasn't looking carefully and didn't correct it before sending. No need to get hyper about it. Chance On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: __ List rules or no, after a decade it is nice to see rich text used on LEM to effectively communicate. Notice how the color bars pop out the relevant words and emphasize the salient points. After all of those times I forgot to switch to plain text and got flak from the plain text trogs I am glad I had rich text switched on to witness this historic LEM event. fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com /in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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At 5:38 PM + 6/13/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Chance Reecher mailto:cha...@reecher.netcha...@reecher.net wrote: Hmm, the amazing discovery you made back in April, and so stupidly told the group about? Copy-Pasted from your modify the about this mac box message: Well, the reason why this is supposedly running Snow leopard on a PPC mac, is because i hacked one of the .strings files that display that system information. I actually have Leopard on it, but since Leopard and Snow Leopard's GUI on the desktop don't look too different, I waned to surprise people on how I did this. You admitted yourself that you just made Leopard look like SL. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Mark Sokolovsky mailto:coolmar...@gmail.comcoolmar...@gmail.com wrote: Heh. Really, it's not worth it now. people like you ruined my amazing discovery. -- • Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- __ List rules or no, after a decade it is nice to see rich text used on LEM to effectively communicate. Notice how the color bars pop out the relevant words and emphasize the salient points. After all of those times I forgot to switch to plain text and got flak from the plain text trogs I am glad I had rich text switched on to witness this historic LEM event. Yea, rich text makes everything look so good. Like the above - notice how you can tell who wrote what? heh. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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WTF ? It was a complement ! I was being sincere. Sorry if I didn't use emoticons or such but I never trust them much anyway. Have we gotten so convoluted here that honesty is miscalculated? No wonder there are so many misunderstandings here. People these days don't understand the up front words of my generation. If your color emphasis of the words this ( indicating a supposed Sawtooth running $GB RAM and SL) and Mac (PPC Mac) was accidental then when composing rich text your mail client has accomplished half the work for you.Saves time. Hyper? Jeez, how sensitive are folks out there? Anything above low breathing is hyper? I don't get it. My generation is very different. To many teachers that some generations heard yelling to shut up the class that were ignored anyway? I get this stuff from my God daughter too. She mumbles in the car which I can't hear over traffic and road noise and if I talk loud enough for her to hear ( she has hearing problems)over the noise in a minivan she asks why I am so hyper. Communication requires a speaker and a listener. But as researchers found in the early XXth century was that the figure - ground formation defining visual perception also is in play in aural and written communication. In other words like Harry Nihlson wrote people see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear Sad if people do not trust direct communication anymore. Check out Nihlson's The Point On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Chance Reecher cha...@reecher.net wrote: My apologies. The highlighting was totally unintentional. As you may know, when you search in Gmail, it highlights the search terms in messages. So when I copied and pasted from Mark's April email, the highlighting came too. I wasn't looking carefully and didn't correct it before sending. No need to get hyper about it. Chance On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: __ List rules or no, after a decade it is nice to see rich text used on LEM to effectively communicate. Notice how the color bars pop out the relevant words and emphasize the salient points. After all of those times I forgot to switch to plain text and got flak from the plain text trogs I am glad I had rich text switched on to witness this historic LEM event. fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Jun 13, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: List rules or no, after a decade it is nice to see rich text used on LEM to effectively communicate. Notice how the color bars pop out the relevant words and emphasize the salient points. No, I didn't notice it at all, since my mail client is set to show the plain text alternative, when possible. (Fortunately most mail clients also send the plain text in addition to the rich text.) I have to read way too much email every day to put up with the visual garbage that typically accompanies 'rich text' mail to warrant leaving it on. I've seen enough jumping smiley gifs, blink tags, ornate backgrounds, alien color schemes, ransom note styling and incomprehensible 2-point font messages (thank you SO MUCH, MS Outlook!) to last a lifetime. Heck I had enough after the first three such messages I got...bad flashbacks to the dawn of the Desktop Publishing age... NEVER assume that when you send out your carefully crafted rich text message, the recipient is seeing what you see, so make your *words* comprehensible...do not rely on styling alone. This has been a public service message from: The Organization of Cranky Old Sysadmins. Our Motto: 'Get off my LAN, you kids!' :-) -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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PPC as an architecture will never become obsolete. PPC computers will. Illirik Smirnov On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 13, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: List rules or no, after a decade it is nice to see rich text used on LEM to effectively communicate. Notice how the color bars pop out the relevant words and emphasize the salient points. No, I didn't notice it at all, since my mail client is set to show the plain text alternative, when possible. (Fortunately most mail clients also send the plain text in addition to the rich text.) I have to read way too much email every day to put up with the visual garbage that typically accompanies 'rich text' mail to warrant leaving it on. I've seen enough jumping smiley gifs, blink tags, ornate backgrounds, alien color schemes, ransom note styling and incomprehensible 2-point font messages (thank you SO MUCH, MS Outlook!) to last a lifetime. Heck I had enough after the first three such messages I got...bad flashbacks to the dawn of the Desktop Publishing age... NEVER assume that when you send out your carefully crafted rich text message, the recipient is seeing what you see, so make your *words* comprehensible...do not rely on styling alone. This has been a public service message from: The Organization of Cranky Old Sysadmins. Our Motto: 'Get off my LAN, you kids!' :-) -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 13, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: List rules or no, after a decade it is nice to see rich text used on LEM to effectively communicate. Notice how the color bars pop out the relevant words and emphasize the salient points. No, I didn't notice it at all, since my mail client is set to show the plain text alternative, when possible. (Fortunately most mail clients also send the plain text in addition to the rich text.) I have to read way too much email every day to put up with the visual garbage that typically accompanies 'rich text' mail to warrant leaving it on. I've seen enough jumping smiley gifs, blink tags, ornate backgrounds, alien color schemes, ransom note styling and incomprehensible 2-point font messages (thank you SO MUCH, MS Outlook!) to last a lifetime. I hardly ever see any of that . Probably because my friends are more knowledgeable. Those who sent the garish ones year ago, the circuit letters have been warned off. But if it is a truly personal message rather than prefab I do not object. Heck I had enough after the first three such messages I got...bad flashbacks to the dawn of the Desktop Publishing age... NEVER assume that when you send out your carefully crafted rich text message, the recipient is seeing what you see, so make your *words* comprehensible...do not rely on styling alone. This has been a public service message from: The Organization of Cranky Old Sysadmins. Our Motto: 'Get off my LAN, you kids!' :-) If I could steal that Flash ad for Dish network where the astronaut floats across the page to repair the satellite it would be on here. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Illirik Smirnov illir...@gmail.com wrote: PPC as an architecture will never become obsolete. PPC computers will. Illirik Smirnov That's the other thread dude. But we get *PowerPC* (short for *Performance Optimization With Enhanced RISC – Performance Computing * -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Jun 13, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I hardly ever see any of that . Probably because my friends are more knowledgeable. Those who sent the garish ones year ago, the circuit letters have been warned off. But if it is a truly personal message rather than prefab I do not object. You don't do computer support for ~600 faculty, staff and students, in addition to the myriad mailing lists I'm on. You would not believe what some folks consider acceptable for 'professional' email correspondence. People do things like pick ornate script fonts at 8 points on floral backgrounds to send official email, and embed page-wide animated gifs' of stupid little smiley blobs doing the wave in their .sig http://msnemotions.org/emoticons/1572.Smiliey-Wave.html So you see it in everydamnemail you get from them. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 13, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I hardly ever see any of that . Probably because my friends are more knowledgeable. Those who sent the garish ones year ago, the circuit letters have been warned off. But if it is a truly personal message rather than prefab I do not object. You don't do computer support for ~600 faculty, staff and students, in addition to the myriad mailing lists I'm on. You would not believe what some folks consider acceptable for 'professional' email correspondence. People do things like pick ornate script fonts at 8 points on floral backgrounds to send official email, and embed page-wide animated gifs' of stupid little smiley blobs doing the wave in their .sig http://msnemotions.org/emoticons/1572.Smiliey-Wave.html So you see it in everydamnemail you get from them. So faculty puts this in their requests for IT service? Jeez ! I will ask the JMC IT guy if he get's these. I would question the credentials of an instructor or prof who used hokeyness in academic communication. I have not seen it in messages from faculty here. But then I would expect Journalism and mass communications faculty to know better. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Chance Reecher mailto: cha...@reecher.netcha...@reecher.net wrote: Hmm, the amazing discovery you made back in April, and so stupidly told the group about? Copy-Pasted from your modify the about this mac box message: Well, the reason why this is supposedly running Snow leopard on a PPC mac, is because i hacked one of the .strings files that display that system information. I actually have Leopard on it, but since Leopard and Snow Leopard's GUI on the desktop don't look too different, I waned to surprise people on how I did this. You admitted yourself that you just made Leopard look like SL. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Mark Sokolovsky mailto: coolmar...@gmail.comcoolmar...@gmail.com wrote: Heh. Really, it's not worth it now. people like you ruined my amazing discovery. -- • Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- __ List rules or no, after a decade it is nice to see rich text used on LEM to effectively communicate. Notice how the color bars pop out the relevant words and emphasize the salient points. After all of those times I forgot to switch to plain text and got flak from the plain text trogs I am glad I had rich text switched on to witness this historic LEM event. The part where it says the reason why snow leopard is supposedly running this machine... I did not ever write that. i consider it supposedly, because it's running as a guest PC on an emulator inside Mac OS X Jaguar. Don't ever write lies about me that i did not make. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Jun 13, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 13, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I hardly ever see any of that . Probably because my friends are more knowledgeable. Those who sent the garish ones year ago, the circuit letters have been warned off. But if it is a truly personal message rather than prefab I do not object. You don't do computer support for ~600 faculty, staff and students, in addition to the myriad mailing lists I'm on. You would not believe what some folks consider acceptable for 'professional' email correspondence. People do things like pick ornate script fonts at 8 points on floral backgrounds to send official email, and embed page-wide animated gifs' of stupid little smiley blobs doing the wave in their .sig http://msnemotions.org/emoticons/1572.Smiliey-Wave.html So you see it in everydamnemail you get from them. So faculty puts this in their requests for IT service? Jeez ! I will ask the JMC IT guy if he get's these. I would question the credentials of an instructor or prof who used hokeyness in academic communication. I have not seen it in messages from faculty here. But then I would expect Journalism and mass communications faculty to know better. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ Can it Wally. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA From Earl Cube 1.2 GHz -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Chance Reecher mailto: cha...@reecher.netcha...@reecher.net wrote: Hmm, the amazing discovery you made back in April, and so stupidly told the group about? Copy-Pasted from your modify the about this mac box message: Well, the reason why this is supposedly running Snow leopard on a PPC mac, is because i hacked one of the .strings files that display that system information. I actually have Leopard on it, but since Leopard and Snow Leopard's GUI on the desktop don't look too different, I waned to surprise people on how I did this. You admitted yourself that you just made Leopard look like SL. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Mark Sokolovsky mailto: coolmar...@gmail.comcoolmar...@gmail.com wrote: Heh. Really, it's not worth it now. people like you ruined my amazing discovery. -- • Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- __ List rules or no, after a decade it is nice to see rich text used on LEM to effectively communicate. Notice how the color bars pop out the relevant words and emphasize the salient points. After all of those times I forgot to switch to plain text and got flak from the plain text trogs I am glad I had rich text switched on to witness this historic LEM event. The part where it says the reason why snow leopard is supposedly running this machine... I did not ever write that. i consider it supposedly, because it's running as a guest PC on an emulator inside Mac OS X Jaguar. Don't ever write lies about me that i did not make. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. Wrong thread Mark. This one is clearly labeled as a spin-off thread about rich text used for communication. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 8:15 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Can it Wally. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA From Earl Cube 1.2 GHz Johns always have a canny ability to perceive feculence. It's is the very reason for their existence.! ;) And shamefully this thread has again attracted those who would drag it to the gutter. What is it with you John? -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Bruce Johnson You don't do computer support for ~600 faculty, staff and students, in addition to the myriad mailing lists I'm on. You would not believe what some folks consider acceptable for 'professional' email correspondence. People do things like pick ornate script fonts at 8 points on floral backgrounds to send official email, and embed page-wide animated gifs' of stupid little smiley blobs doing the wave in their .sig http://msnemotions.org/emoticons/1572.Smiliey-Wave.html So you see it in everydamnemail you get from them. So faculty puts this in their requests for IT service? Jeez ! I will ask the JMC IT guy if he get's these. I would question the credentials of an instructor or prof who used hokeyness in academic communication. I have not seen it in messages from faculty here. But then I would expect Journalism and mass communications faculty to know better. You have no idea what a faculty IT person sees each day! How about someone who can't print, because their printer is turned off! The head of an English department who uses the above described e-mails and wonders why no one responds (They can't read most of what is there because the font color blends in with the background), and there fore sends out more and more e-mails, and then complains that her e-mail is not going out. But lack of computer skills is not the only place where higher ed faculties shine. How about an English department head who cannot spell? The lack of computer skills are not so hard to deal with, when you comsider what you could be having to deal with. Peace, Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.netwrote: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Bruce Johnson You don't do computer support for ~600 faculty, staff and students, in addition to the myriad mailing lists I'm on. You would not believe what some folks consider acceptable for 'professional' email correspondence. People do things like pick ornate script fonts at 8 points on floral backgrounds to send official email, and embed page-wide animated gifs' of stupid little smiley blobs doing the wave in their .sig http://msnemotions.org/emoticons/1572.Smiliey-Wave.html So you see it in everydamnemail you get from them. So faculty puts this in their requests for IT service? Jeez ! I will ask the JMC IT guy if he get's these. I would question the credentials of an instructor or prof who used hokeyness in academic communication. I have not seen it in messages from faculty here. But then I would expect Journalism and mass communications faculty to know better. You have no idea what a faculty IT person sees each day! How about someone who can't print, because their printer is turned off! The head of an English department who uses the above described e-mails and wonders why no one responds (They can't read most of what is there because the font color blends in with the background), and there fore sends out more and more e-mails, and then complains that her e-mail is not going out. But lack of computer skills is not the only place where higher ed faculties shine. How about an English department head who cannot spell? The lack of computer skills are not so hard to deal with, when you comsider what you could be having to deal with. Peace, Dennis As a student system user who did not start with computers until 1993 it astounds me that my fellow students who grew up with computers in the class room often have little idea about disk capabilities, capacities, cpu system resources, and the cross platform basics of computers. For me the machines at the university are so powerful I only notice a problem if it is pronounced. Like the time i got on a mac pro to do a quick Mp3 conversion and a dual CPU was dragging in Audacity for a very simple task. I looked down and about every heavy Adobe and MS app was open and with files loaded! Such is life in a shared lab environment in a media department. You should see the number of files left on the desktops! Students who should already have good computer practices then wonder why their files get passed around, stolen,and worst case, deleted. Even though they are repeatedly told to store them on the server etc. The university bought a humongous RAID for the NLE lab in addition to huge building/department system storage space and they still leave files out in public and cry when their time consuming precious work is gone. Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. I have tried to teach that very class for the last 7 years. Most of my students could not care less about what I am talking about. They are there to fulfill the state requirements for a technology class and once they achieve that, they have no idea what you have talked about, because they have already forgotten it. In 7 years of teaching I have had 4 students say they have used something I taught them in a college class they had later in life. The vast majority of my students are convinced that they already know all there is to know about using a computer and they have no intention of learning more. Rarely do I get a student who is actually wanting to learn. Most of the time I get the student who tells me there is no way Ohm's Law will work. Peace, Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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At 9:01 PM + 6/13/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. Be comforted, that in the face of all irridity and disillusionment, and despite the changing fortunes of time, there is always a big future in computer maintenance. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.netwrote: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. I have tried to teach that very class for the last 7 years. Most of my students could not care less about what I am talking about. They are there to fulfill the state requirements for a technology class and once they achieve that, they have no idea what you have talked about, because they have already forgotten it. In 7 years of teaching I have had 4 students say they have used something I taught them in a college class they had later in life. The vast majority of my students are convinced that they already know all there is to know about using a computer and they have no intention of learning more. Rarely do I get a student who is actually wanting to learn. Most of the time I get the student who tells me there is no way Ohm's Law will work. Peace, Dennis ___ I can understand that in an office drone paper shuffler who is on the IT lockout track. But media types of all persuasions who enter small or freelance operations and ignore the need of CPU and network system practices will be a burden to their bosses and may not last long. Production deadlines for customers leave no time for rookie mistakes. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:01 PM + 6/13/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. Be comforted, that in the face of all irridity and disillusionment, and despite the changing fortunes of time, there is always a big future in computer maintenance. __ irridity ? ? 9 online dictionaries including the Oxford compact, and my trusty print Webster's Collegiate finds nothing for that one. I think it may mean stanziphramis. I tried to figure out the possible typos also. nada -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
