Re: Need graphics utility question.
On Feb 28, 10:34 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: I need to prepare about 100 photos for ID's and class photo composites for our incoming students; each got their picture taken at interview time. The pictures are all taken at the same distance and zoom, waist-up shots (thankfully, last year they weren't and we refused to touch that mess!) so what I need to do is crop them all to the same size, for just a head shot. I'll have to change what part of the photo is cropped each time, but I need the cropped dimensions to always be the same. IS there a way to define a set clipping region or cropping box then apply it to each photo, move it around as necessary, then crop the photos? This is what I would do : 1. Fire up Photoshop and Command N for new file, set it to the dimensions you want all the pics to be. Make sure the resolution is the same too (important). 2. Open the pics you want. Perhaps do them in batches not to get confused or overload memory. 3. Drag the first pic from the original to the created window using the move tool and adjust the placement at the same time. 'Save as' under the student's name. 4. Drag the next pic to the same window that was just 'Saved as' and 'Save as' the next student but this time and all subsequent times Flatten image to get rid of the layer beneath to keep file size down. That's it. You can add bells and whistles, eg, add a step of grabbing crop tool and sweeping the whole width of width and height of what you see and that crops the image to the frame. But maybe not needed if you have generous storage facility. Plus, this last step is suited to automation if you decide later to do it in a batch. Depending on the way you work, and your storage and ram, you can do similar to the above but forget the tedious 'save as' steps and hurry and put all the pics in the created new window. Every time you drag a pic from the originals over, you create a new layer. And you can name the layers with the students names (click on the layers pallette and the name, the text field will show). This way you get all 100 in one layered PSD! You can print each student by simply turning off all the other layers in the layers palette. Plus, if you have not quite got the student how you want, the image is still 'there' and can be adjusted later. I'd be tempted to do this! Many ways to skin this cat. 4. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need graphics utility question.
On 28/2/09 08:31, dorayme dora...@optusnet.com.au wrote: On Feb 28, 10:34 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: I need to prepare about 100 photos for ID's and class photo composites for our incoming students; each got their picture taken at interview time. The pictures are all taken at the same distance and zoom, waist-up shots (thankfully, last year they weren't and we refused to touch that mess!) so what I need to do is crop them all to the same size, for just a head shot. I'll have to change what part of the photo is cropped each time, but I need the cropped dimensions to always be the same. IS there a way to define a set clipping region or cropping box then apply it to each photo, move it around as necessary, then crop the photos? Photoshop 7 and upward has this feature within the marquee settings and I tend to use it a lot to visualise crops for printing on cds as it works for the rectangular and the round marquee. Select the marquee tool then in the top toolbar you will see a style box with a drop down menu for normal, fixed ratio and fixed size. Choosing either of the fixed will allow you to click once in the image to create a fixed marquee. This fixed marquee mode will persist until you choose to change it back with the drop down menu - even if you close and reopen Pshop. Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need graphics utility question.
On Feb 28, 10:34 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: I need to prepare about 100 photos for ID's and class photo composites for our incoming students; each got their picture taken at interview time. The pictures are all taken at the same distance and zoom, waist-up shots (thankfully, last year they weren't and we refused to touch that mess!) so what I need to do is crop them all to the same size, for just a head shot. I'll have to change what part of the photo is cropped each time, but I need the cropped dimensions to always be the same. IS there a way to define a set clipping region or cropping box then apply it to each photo, move it around as necessary, then crop the photos? Would Downsize suit your purpose? http://stuntsoftware.com/Downsize/ Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clamshell issues??
Is it possible to make verbose mode the default? On Feb 27, 2009, at 2:12 PM, jonas ulrich wrote: How do you do the verbose mode in os 10 Hold down the Cmd-v keys at startup. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Clamshell issues??
On Feb 28, 2009, at 5:37 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Is it possible to make verbose mode the default? This link might be what you're looking for... http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/h/348 Amanda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Did I Do Something Stupid?! No Classic in System Prefs?!
Under Help, I searched for Classic and got this reference among others: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: xicnos9.gif I don't see the Classic pane in System Preferences The Classic preference pane is available in System Preferences only if a Mac OS 9 System Folder is installed on your computer, or if you have already run a Classic application on your computer. After you install a Mac OS 9 System Folder, the Classic preference pane should be available the next time you open System Preferences. If it's still not available, try opening a Classic application, and then logging out and logging in again. To install a Mac OS 9 System Folder, click the link below. See also Installing a Mac OS 9 System Folder to use with the Classic environment Classic Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio
Re: Did I Do Something Stupid?! No Classic in System Prefs?!
On Feb 27, 11:42 pm, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: I think you have to install the OS 9 (on a separate partition would be my preference), and make sure it is Blessed. Don't remember the details, but it all occurs under the Installation OS 9 CD control as I would do it. Installing OS X does not carry OS 9 with it. On my iBook G4/1.33 GB DVD set, OS 9 is on the second disk. OS 9 and its applications should work fine on the same partition as OS X. It did when I had them both on the same partition in a G4 Quicksilver tower. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Did I Do Something Stupid?! No Classic in System Prefs?!
Bill Connelly writes, After you install a Mac OS 9 System Folder, the Classic preference pane should be available the next time you open System Preferences. If it's still not available, try opening a Classic application, and then logging out and logging in again. To install a Mac OS 9 System Folder, click the link below. See also Installing a Mac OS 9 System Folder to use with the Classic environment Classic OK -- as it happened, I went on with my moving data into the machine and recustomizing activities (why not -- an Archive Reinstall will preserve it if I have to do one, I figure) and yes, out of curiosity, when I put one of my Classic apps' icons in the Dock and double clicked it, Classic started up (but the app itself blew out, it wouldn't open, I'll need to investigate that later). And at THAT point, when I went to System Prefs, I DID finally see a Classic pane. I went in, checked it out, saw that it was set properly to call on the OS 9 System folder I'd moved in, but, it was still missing the option to put the little 9 icon in the menu bar. I could have sworn I got the little 9 in the menu bar on both my G4 originally, and then on the iBook when I first got it and set it up, by doing something in System Prefs Classic pane...maybe I'm senile and don't really remember, but OK. Somehow your links didn't make it to your reply, Bill, but that's OK, I'll go to Mac Help myself and look up those topics. Also... I think you have to install the OS 9 (on a separate partition would be my preference), and make sure it is Blessed. Don't remember the details, but it all occurs under the Installation OS 9 CD control as I would do it. No, you don't HAVE TO put OS 9 on its own partition -- it's BETTER to keep OS 9 separate from OS X when you plan on sometimes actually BOOTING the machine in OS 9, and in fact that's how I originally set up my iBook. However, it's not actually necessary to do it that way, particularly not in Tiger I'd read on this list some time back that earlier versions of OS X would futz up if they were too close to OS 9, but not Tiger When I got the iBook in July 2007, I had THOUGHT I'd need to boot it in 9 occasionally, so I gave it a small (8 GB) OS 9 boot partition. As it happened though, I never needed to boot in 9 on the iBook at all (the only times I ever actually did boot the iBook in 9 was when I installed to test it, and then once last night immediately prior to the nuke and pave to see if it still worked, and yes it booted in 9) -- I only need to run Classic on it. It's the *G4* I have to be able to boot in 9 with sometimes (and still can't, dammit! yet another still-unresolved issue, sigh)...And, on the G4, the OS 9 for booting is on a *different HD* from the OS X, which the Mac would treat as on another partition, meaning it's OK. Because my iBook only has a 30 GB HD and I no longer have room for stuff I never use on it (such as a separate OS 9 boot partition), that's why I decided to nuke and pave it last night, to get rid of that unused partition and do some clean up and streamline as well as update certain things I'll be needing to use more in the near future. All righty then, off to go to Mac Help. Thanks for the tip, Bill! ~Yersinia. Politicians are those who deal with the problems which would not exist if they didn't exist. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today
Title: Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today At 12:42 PM -0600 2/24/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: Safari 4 Public Beta is available today: I'm a bit late jumping in. Was in the middle of some production work - didn't want to risk applecramp until it was done. I did the normal flak-jacket install -- full backup, verify disk, repair permissions, install, watch the reboot hang because Apple is too stupid to get the timing right when clearing caches, enter single-user mode, clear caches and vm with applejack, reboot, life is good... A word about that installation package: Wow. Check your logs. This is NOT a clean beta test, like we've come to know and love with other apps. It is *destructive*. After making an archive of a few pieces, Apple replaces the webkit framework installed in /Library with one that's newer than their norm but still ancient (and buggy!) compared to WebKit Nightly. THEN they fark with every other application on your system that uses WebKit -- including Mail. Then they give you the new Safari.app. IOW, this beta does not affect just Safari. It has the potential to fark MANY other apps. So BE CAREFUL. My first impressions are bad. As usual, new eye candy, a fancy Top Spots page that curves a miniature wallpaper of your most visited webpages across a window On my Smurf, Safari 4 happily decides I'm too slow to see such. LOL On faster Macs, that eye-candy is all abysmally slow. Bad implementation of unnecessary features, IMO. At first, I found Safari 4 to be noticeably slower than Safari 3.2.1 with WebKit Nightly. Then I went poking around in the preferences ... I had turned off the fraudulent site checking in Safari 3, but it seems the install turned it back on. After fixing that and other settings - Safari 4 got speedy. Be careful with various plug-ins and inputmanagers -- some will be incompatible with Safari 4. FWIW, I've found that SafariBlock *is* compatible. the elimination of the Stop/Reload button from the toolbar is crazy. You're stuck watching a spinning thingy with no option except closing the tab. Bad Apple. Bad bad bad design. WIthout that progress bar, you're sitting there in the dark. Luckily most of the bad design can be backed out... Customize the toolbar to restore the top/reload button. To move the tab bar back to the position in was in Safari 3: defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4TabBarIsOnTop -bool NO To move the tab bar back to the top: defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4TabBarIsOnTop -bool YES To bring back the inline progress loading indicator: defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4IncludeToolbarRedesign -bool NO defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4LoadProgressStyle -bool NO (I know, those defaults commands have been published elsewhere; I just want to repeat them for the folx that missed all the articles etc. Simon! I liked your Safari 4 article!) It did score 100 on Acid3, but initially stalled on several tests so that the progress was very uneven and REALLY slow. Upon subsequent tests it loaded almost instantly, as if it were using a cache rather than rerunning the test? A symptom of using an out-of-date webkit build. Bad Apple. Bad bad bad. At 7:41 PM -0500 2/24/2009, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Apple is saying it is the fastest browser ever? http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/02/24/tech-safari.html I did my own subjective tests. Safari 4 as-distributed seems a tad faster than Safari 3 with WebKit Nightly. But not much faster. Safari 4 with WebKit Nightly is faster still. rant Apple has spammed a lot of PR around taking credit for Safari's speed. I guess that's their right, since the top of Safari is their app, after all. But most of the speed ups are coming from the open source folx that worked VERY hard on things like WebKit. I haven't seen Apple giving them any credit for that. Big Corp Mentality, I guess. sigh. At 10:17 AM -0600 2/25/2009, George R. Hozendorf wrote: And why move the tabs to the top of the screen? On wide screens, it makes sense to try to squeeze all the vertical space you can. IMO, it's bad design. Now you cannot ever see the full page title, if you have lots of tabs open. AND you have to mouse further. That seems trivial until you consider how many times you have to that xtra inch. I guess drumming up more business for carpel tunnel doctors is a Good Thing. /me puts his Martha hat back on the shelf. At 11:43 AM -0500 2/25/2009, Mark wrote: wow cmd + - enlarges and reduces EVERYTHING - not just the type. I have to admit... This particular change - seeing frames being expanded so *quickly* - really caught my eye! Took me a while to get used to it, but I'm thinking this is the best improvement in the whole beta! FWIW, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs
Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today
On Feb 28, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Dan wrote: I'm a bit late jumping in. Was in the middle of some production work - didn't want to risk applecramp until it was done. I did the normal flak-jacket install -- full backup, verify disk, repair permissions, install, watch the reboot hang because Apple is too stupid to get the timing right when clearing caches, enter single-user mode, clear caches and vm with applejack, reboot, life is good... A word about that installation package: Wow. Check your logs. This is NOT a clean beta test, like we've come to know and love with other apps. It is *destructive*. After making an archive of a few pieces, Apple replaces the webkit framework installed in / Library with one that's newer than their norm but still ancient (and buggy!) compared to WebKit Nightly. THEN they fark with every other application on your system that uses WebKit -- including Mail. Then they give you the new Safari.app. IOW, this beta does not affect just Safari. It has the potential to fark MANY other apps. So BE CAREFUL. My first impressions are bad. As usual, new eye candy, a fancy Top Spots page that curves a miniature wallpaper of your most visited webpages across a window On my Smurf, Safari 4 happily decides I'm too slow to see such. LOL On faster Macs, that eye-candy is all abysmally slow. Bad implementation of unnecessary features, IMO. My experience has been darn near the opposite of yours. I simply downloaded and ran the installer, and it's been by far the best, fastest and least crashy browser I've used in some time. (I'm using it with Webkit.) I still don't get a 100% acid test, but I'm sure that's because of some plug-ins I'm not willing to give up (mostly likely Flash--though I'm also using ClickToFlash, and have been happy with that). The only complaint I have is that when I click on a link from Mail, it opens a second instance of Webkit/Safari (both using Safari 4). I tried resetting the default browser (from Safari), but it already said Webkit and re-selecting it didn't stop the problem. I generally don't like extra bells and whistles, but I find myself using the top spots curve wallpaper thing. (It's optional--you don't have to display it or make it your default new tab or window.) I surely wouldn't describe mine as one of the faster Macs -- an aging G4 AGP with a 1.4 ghz cpu. Yet it's not at all slow (as I thought it would be). Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Safari 4 Public Beta available today
On 28 Feb 2009, at 11:15:32 PST, Dan wrote: A word about that installation package: Wow. Check your logs. This is NOT a clean beta test, like we've come to know and love with other apps. It is *destructive*. After making an archive of a few pieces, Apple replaces the webkit framework installed in / Library with one that's newer than their norm but still ancient (and buggy!) compared to WebKit Nightly. THEN they fark with every other application on your system that uses WebKit -- including Mail. Then they give you the new Safari.app. - Thanks! I installed the beta when it first was mentioned here. Seemed to run as well and as fast as v3.2.1. However I have been getting messages in Mail that only half appeared unless the whole message was highlighted. Attributed this to some Yahoo! oddity. I ran the uninstaller for the beta and things seem to be back to normal. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Did I Do Something Stupid?! No Classic in System Prefs?!
From: Yersinia yersi...@cybernex.net After post-updater reboot and confirmation that I was in 10.4.9 by popping About This Mac, I started loading in all the data gathered onto the flash drives earlier today, including the OS 9.2.2 System Folder to run Classic. Are you sure the OS 9.2.2 is blessed as Bill asked in an earlier post? Don't know if can you just copy a OS 9 System folder over into an OS X environment without a true install from the OS 9 install disk? Perhaps a clean install from your OS 9 disk would be required. At this point that is what I would do if you are sure the OS 9 System folder is blessed. But first, I'd bless the System folder. --glen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Did I Do Something Stupid?! No Classic in System Prefs?!
Glen writes, Are you sure the OS 9.2.2 is blessed as Bill asked in an earlier post? Don't know if can you just copy a OS 9 System folder over into an OS X environment without a true install from the OS 9 install disk? Perhaps a clean install from your OS 9 disk would be required. At this point that is what I would do if you are sure the OS 9 System folder is blessed. But first, I'd bless the System folder. Yes, you can copy in an OS 9 System Folder from one Mac to another and expect it to run Classic under OS X, and boot the machine from its own partition. I know, because that's how I got OS 9 (both Classic-only, and boot-only) into that very same iBook in the first place. Classic ran great, and I was also able to boot the iBook in OS 9. None of my various and sundry OS 9 install CDs will install OS 9 on my iBook, which I bought used on EBay and didn't come with any system disks. That's why originally, and now, I had to move OS 9 in by copying System Folders from my G4 (I do have system disks for THAT, but the OS 9 one wouldn't install on the iBook either). Anyhoo, the issue is mostly fixed now, believe it or not -- I even got my little 9 back up in the menu bar! :-) I have one last problem with one app (all my other Classic apps open and run OK, I tested them), but I need to take that to the Claris Emailer list. Thanks though! ~Yersinia. Some mornings it's not worth chewing through the leather straps. -- Emo Phillips --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Did I Do Something Stupid?! No Classic in System Prefs?!
On Feb 28, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Yersinia wrote: None of my various and sundry OS 9 install CDs will install OS 9 on my iBook, which I bought used on EBay and didn't come with any system disks. That's why originally, and now, I had to move OS 9 in by copying System Folders from my G4 (I do have system disks for THAT, but the OS 9 one wouldn't install on the iBook either). Maybe CCC 3.1.3 would help down the road, under OS X. It might even Bless the folder for you? Anyhoo, the issue is mostly fixed now, believe it or not -- I even got my little 9 back up in the menu bar! :-) I have one last problem with one app (all my other Classic apps open and run OK, I tested them), but I need to take that to the Claris Emailer list. Thanks though! ~Yersinia. That's funny ... all this made me upgrade my OS 9 partition to usable 9.2.2 along with using Quicktime 6.0.3 (my 9.1 install wouldn't startup on my Yikes!) ... but as a test, I tried my ClarisWorks 3 from the dock ... it opened another app instead ... Switch ... which has nothing to do with OS 9 ... Same thing happened when I went to the ClarisWorks folder ... any relation to Claris Emailer? I'm using NeoOffice for my spreadsheets and such now under OS X. Haven't really run any OS 9 apps for awhile. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Modem question... From the Desk of Scott Fiore
I know I am going to come off sounding ignorant, that said.. I thought that DOCSIS 3.0 was supose to be backward compatible with DOCSIS 2.0 both at the Cable Modem and the Cable modem termination system.?? anyways.. On Feb 26, 10:32 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 2:42 PM -0800 2/26/2009, Scott Fiore wrote: own a Motorola Surfboard 5220 modem (about 1 1/2 years old) that I connect to my Airport Express. I received a call from my internet provider this morning notifying me that because this modem is being discontinued by Motorola, it will soon stop working and I will need to buy or rent a new modem. Does this sound right? yes, and no. And welcome to the quandry posed by owning your own telecom gear instead of renting... Due to the way cable modems work, the ones on a provider's network *must* be fully supported by their CMTS (head end router). I think you'll find that your ToS states that they can tell you what make model modems are permitted. That being said... It's baloney that the modem is going to stop working just because Motorola is discontinuing that model. Total baloney. The truth is that the cable company simply no longer wants to support that model, so they're going to unprovision them (shut them down intentionally). Why? Two main reasons: 1) Evil company etc. 2) They're upgrading to DOCSIS 3.0, and your modem doesn't support that faster protocol. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need graphics utility question.
Thanks to all for your suggestions, y'all are great! -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Firewire hard drives not mounting
Hi, I am running a PowerMac G4 dual 450 with OS X 10.3.9. I have 2 external firewire hard drives, a LaCie 80 GB and a LaCie 750 GB. The 750 has 3 partitions. Everything was working great, but I powered off my computer today and now when I rebooted the 80 GB is unmounted, and 2 of the 3 partitions on the 750 are unmounted. Disk Utility can see these unmounted drives/ partitions, but can not mount them. What the heck? I am not that technical with this kind of stuff. Thanks, Ken --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Did I Do Something Stupid?! No Classic in System Prefs?!
Bill writes, Maybe CCC 3.1.3 would help down the road, under OS X. It might even Bless the folder for you? Dunno, I'll Google and if it's free and actually makes sense to me why I should have it, I'll download it. I never actually, seriously even looked into Carbon Copy Cloner, even though I've seen enough mention of people using it in here on these lists. I never really got why anybody should use a special program to copy or move files or folders, when (for me anyway) it could be done straight up with the Finder without having to mess around with yet something else. That's funny ... all this made me upgrade my OS 9 partition to usable 9.2.2 along with using Quicktime 6.0.3 (my 9.1 install wouldn't startup on my Yikes!) ... Hahaha, I find this really amusing -- a little problem I run into because I decide I don't need the OS 9 partition on my iBook inspires YOU to UPGRADE yours! *laugh* but as a test, I tried my ClarisWorks 3 from the dock ... it opened another app instead ... Switch ... which has nothing to do with OS 9 ...Same thing happened when I went to the ClarisWorks folder ... any relation to Claris Emailer? Um, h, I couldn't tell you, sorry. I've never even had ClarisWorks 3. I started with ClarisWorks 4 in OS's 7.x.x and 8.x and used it until OS 9.1 FUBARed it, at which point I started using AppleWorks. (I've been using AppleWorks 6 for about, h, 4-5 years now?) I've never even heard of Switch, and I don't mess with QuickTime either. One of the first things I did when I first got OS X was take the QuickTime icon out of the Dock, and it's THE first thing I do when I open up a new OS X after a nuke-and-pave (remove all of what are, for me, useless icons, and QuickTime is first on my list of useless!). I have no idea how any of this would relate to Claris Emailer, which, I should mention, opened up and worked just fine on my iBook (until now!) and still runs beautifully on my G4 (same 10.4.9/9.2.2 OS configuration). I'm using NeoOffice for my spreadsheets and such now under OS X. Haven't really run any OS 9 apps for awhile. I don't do spreadsheets at home, and don't have NeoOffice...but believe it or not, I've actually considered going to an OS X native email client (Thunderbird, which my boyfriend told me about, he uses it on HIS Macs). I didn't like Mail.app (I did have reason to try it briefly not long before I found Thunderbird)...It was IMO too much like Outlook (which I already knew I hated from having used it at work in a Windoze only situation), which may be good for recent escapees from MicroBorg who want an easy adjustment to Macs and OS X, but I don't want to use anything MicroBorg-like! So I downloaded and played with Thunderbird a little, and almost fell in love, except for one thing: It can't import my Claris Emailer folders! THAT was the dealbreaker. Ironically, Mail.app CAN import from Claris Emailer..except I don't like it otherwise! So, I'm still using my good old ancient Claris Emailer 2.0v3 for email. I actually LOVE my Claris Emailer, and the only reason why I was considering switching to an OS X native email program at all was because I thought it, being more modern, would work better than CE in wifi situations. Ohhh wait... IDEA! Gotta pop open the Thunderbird and look since I don't recall off the top of my head, but I think it WILL import from Mail.app, so maybe if I import my ClarisEmailer stuff into Mail.app, and then import with Thunderbird from THERE...H, Maybe! (oh no, another big nasty Project likely to take a week or more, I know, but.something to look into!) ~Yersinia-wishes she'd stop thinking up all these big nasty Projects! Experience is the worst teacher. It always gives the test first and the instruction afterward. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Ken W ken...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am running a PowerMac G4 dual 450 with OS X 10.3.9. I have 2 external firewire hard drives, a LaCie 80 GB and a LaCie 750 GB. The 750 has 3 partitions. Everything was working great, but I powered off my computer today and now when I rebooted the 80 GB is unmounted, and 2 of the 3 partitions on the 750 are unmounted. Disk Utility can see these unmounted drives/ partitions, but can not mount them. What the heck? I am not that technical with this kind of stuff. __ What file system were they formatted in? Do you shut it down regularly with no similar problem? Have you mounted them to any other machines recently? Have you installed any new software or updates recently that may have files in startup or shutdown folders? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
Pardon me for quasi-hijacking this thread, but I just ran into nearly the same exact problem. Only worse: my external FireWire drive isn't seen at all. (3 partitions: a Panther, a Tiger and a Leopard.) Worked last time. This time, none of the three show up anywhere. Not on the desktop, not in Disk Utility, not even in Disk Warrior. The physical disk sounds like it's running normally. Uh-oh. --Tony On Feb 28, 7:55 pm, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Ken W ken...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am running a PowerMac G4 dual 450 with OS X 10.3.9. I have 2 external firewire hard drives, a LaCie 80 GB and a LaCie 750 GB. The 750 has 3 partitions. Everything was working great, but I powered off my computer today and now when I rebooted the 80 GB is unmounted, and 2 of the 3 partitions on the 750 are unmounted. Disk Utility can see these unmounted drives/ partitions, but can not mount them. What the heck? I am not that technical with this kind of stuff. __ What file system were they formatted in? Do you shut it down regularly with no similar problem? Have you mounted them to any other machines recently? Have you installed any new software or updates recently that may have files in startup or shutdown folders? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
Hi Wallace, thank you for your help, here's the info: What file system were they formatted in? They are in Journaled HFS+ Do you shut it down regularly with no similar problem? Yes Have you mounted them to any other machines recently? No Have you installed any new software or updates recently that may have files in startup or shutdown folders? No, I started to install Flash 10, but did not get through the process because this requires OS X 10.4 or greater. I hope this is helpful. One other thing, when I booted up before this problem, the computer got stuck at the grey apple screen, sat there for over 10 minutes so I had to hard restart it. On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Ken W ken...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am running a PowerMac G4 dual 450 with OS X 10.3.9. I have 2 external firewire hard drives, a LaCie 80 GB and a LaCie 750 GB. The 750 has 3 partitions. Everything was working great, but I powered off my computer today and now when I rebooted the 80 GB is unmounted, and 2 of the 3 partitions on the 750 are unmounted. Disk Utility can see these unmounted drives/ partitions, but can not mount them. What the heck? I am not that technical with this kind of stuff. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
On Feb 28, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Ken W wrote: What the heck? I am not that technical with this kind of stuff. I used to boot from Firewire HDs all the time, and occasionally would run into a similar issue. The problem was somehow something switched the Firewire kext in OS X to some other setting. I remember I looked in the System.log when the Firewire was working and it always said something like A400 and 400Mbps somewhere. When it was broken and not mounting the HDs it said A100 and 100Mbps instead. I believe the solution was to use Onyx, Cocktail, or Applejack to clean the caches, etc., and reboot. Then it acted normally again. I don't know if this is your problem, but it worked for me when my Firewire drives stopped mounting. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
I've had firewire external drive problems in the past and the cause was the chipsets used in the case. JT tonycd wrote: Pardon me for quasi-hijacking this thread, but I just ran into nearly the same exact problem. Only worse: my external FireWire drive isn't seen at all. (3 partitions: a Panther, a Tiger and a Leopard.) Worked last time. This time, none of the three show up anywhere. Not on the desktop, not in Disk Utility, not even in Disk Warrior. The physical disk sounds like it's running normally. Uh-oh. --Tony On Feb 28, 7:55 pm, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Ken W ken...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am running a PowerMac G4 dual 450 with OS X 10.3.9. I have 2 external firewire hard drives, a LaCie 80 GB and a LaCie 750 GB. The 750 has 3 partitions. Everything was working great, but I powered off my computer today and now when I rebooted the 80 GB is unmounted, and 2 of the 3 partitions on the 750 are unmounted. Disk Utility can see these unmounted drives/ partitions, but can not mount them. What the heck? I am not that technical with this kind of stuff. __ What file system were they formatted in? Do you shut it down regularly with no similar problem? Have you mounted them to any other machines recently? Have you installed any new software or updates recently that may have files in startup or shutdown folders? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Ken W mailto:ken...@gmail.comken...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am running a PowerMac G4 dual 450 with OS X 10.3.9. I have 2 external firewire hard drives, a LaCie 80 GB and a LaCie 750 GB. The 750 has 3 partitions. Everything was working great, but I powered off my computer today and now when I rebooted the 80 GB is unmounted, and 2 of the 3 partitions on the 750 are unmounted. Disk Utility can see these unmounted drives/ partitions, but can not mount them. What the heck? I am not that technical with this kind of stuff. I ran into similar problems with a G3 iMac in OS X. I found that rebooting into OS 9 to mount the partitions worked to make them visible in OS X. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
Pardon me for quasi-hijacking this thread, but I just ran into nearly the same exact problem. Only worse: my external FireWire drive isn't seen at all. (3 partitions: a Panther, a Tiger and a Leopard.) Worked last time. This time, none of the three show up anywhere. Not on the desktop, not in Disk Utility, not even in Disk Warrior. The physical disk sounds like it's running normally. Uh-oh. --Tony On Feb 28, 7:55 pm, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Ken W ken...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am running a PowerMac G4 dual 450 with OS X 10.3.9. I have 2 external firewire hard drives, a LaCie 80 GB and a LaCie 750 GB. The 750 has 3 partitions. Everything was working great, but I powered off my computer today and now when I rebooted the 80 GB is unmounted, and 2 of the 3 partitions on the 750 are unmounted. Disk Utility can see these unmounted drives/ partitions, but can not mount them. What the heck? I am not that technical with this kind of stuff. __ What file system were they formatted in? Do you shut it down regularly with no similar problem? Have you mounted them to any other machines recently? Have you installed any new software or updates recently that may have files in startup or shutdown folders? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
On Feb 28, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Steve R wrote: Hi, I am running a PowerMac G4 dual 450 with OS X 10.3.9. I have 2 external firewire hard drives, a LaCie 80 GB and a LaCie 750 GB. The 750 has 3 partitions. Everything was working great, but I powered off my computer today and now when I rebooted the 80 GB is unmounted, and 2 of the 3 partitions on the 750 are unmounted. Disk Utility can see these unmounted drives/ partitions, but can not mount them. What the heck? I am not that technical with this kind of stuff. I ran into similar problems with a G3 iMac in OS X. I found that rebooting into OS 9 to mount the partitions worked to make them visible in OS X. Steve R Could be a corrupted disk directory. Maybe try Disk Warrior? I keep an external firewire drive to back up my internal drives. I've got it partitioned to mimic the internal drives. For both internal and external drives, I rely on Intertech's hi-cap kext. That means whenever I need to run Disk Warrior, it's best if I do it from the FW drive (rather than the disk) so that I can see all my partitions. == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
On Feb 28, 2009, at 9:19 PM, tonycd wrote: Pardon me for quasi-hijacking this thread, but I just ran into nearly the same exact problem. Only worse: my external FireWire drive isn't seen at all. (3 partitions: a Panther, a Tiger and a Leopard.) Worked last time. This time, none of the three show up anywhere. Not on the desktop, not in Disk Utility, not even in Disk Warrior. The physical disk sounds like it's running normally. Uh-oh. --Tony I'm not sure what computer you have, but if it's a Sawtooth, you could try opening the case and plugging the external drive into the internal FW port on the motherboard. You could also try taking the drive itself out of the FW case and attaching it to one of the IDE buses. == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
Thanks, Joe. I have a Quicksilver 867 upgraded to 1.5ghz, running Tiger. I've tried booting from an OS 9 CD (wouldn't boot), and a Norton CD (ditto). Tech Tool Deluxe couldn't see any of the three partitions, either. My question: If I somehow failed to trash the desktop disk icons on my last use, which I know is the usual cause for this problem, and therefore fried the B Tree, which I read is the consequence of such misbehavior, is that damage in the FireWire case or the hard drive itself? (If the latter, obviously the exercise of disassembling the FireWire drive -- although I know how, and have done it before -- wouldn't be worth the exertion.) My usual HD is running fine. I'm just trying to keep my backup tools working as preventive medicine. If this exercise did confirm that the FireWire case was the problem, would it help me in any way except to confirm I needed a new FireWire case? I'm not sure what computer you have, but if it's a Sawtooth, you could try opening the case and plugging the external drive into the internal FW port on the motherboard. You could also try taking the drive itself out of the FW case and attaching it to one of the IDE buses. On Feb 28, 9:29 pm, joe j...@joethejuggler.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2009, at 9:19 PM, tonycd wrote: Pardon me for quasi-hijacking this thread, but I just ran into nearly the same exact problem. Only worse: my external FireWire drive isn't seen at all. (3 partitions: a Panther, a Tiger and a Leopard.) Worked last time. This time, none of the three show up anywhere. Not on the desktop, not in Disk Utility, not even in Disk Warrior. The physical disk sounds like it's running normally. Uh-oh. --Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
Thanks, Joe. I have a Quicksilver 867 upgraded to 1.5ghz, running Tiger. I've tried booting from an OS 9 CD (wouldn't boot), and a Norton CD (ditto). Tech Tool Deluxe couldn't see any of the three partitions, either. My question: If I somehow failed to trash the desktop disk icons on my last use, which I know is the usual cause for this problem, and therefore fried the B Tree, which I read is the consequence of such misbehavior, is that damage in the FireWire case or the hard drive itself? (If the latter, obviously the exercise of disassembling the FireWire drive -- although I know how, and have done it before -- wouldn't be worth the exertion.) My usual HD is running fine. I'm just trying to keep my backup tools working as preventive medicine. If this exercise did confirm that the FireWire case was the problem, would it help me in any way except to confirm I needed a new FireWire case? I'm not sure what computer you have, but if it's a Sawtooth, you could try opening the case and plugging the external drive into the internal FW port on the motherboard. You could also try taking the drive itself out of the FW case and attaching it to one of the IDE buses. On Feb 28, 9:29 pm, joe j...@joethejuggler.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2009, at 9:19 PM, tonycd wrote: Pardon me for quasi-hijacking this thread, but I just ran into nearly the same exact problem. Only worse: my external FireWire drive isn't seen at all. (3 partitions: a Panther, a Tiger and a Leopard.) Worked last time. This time, none of the three show up anywhere. Not on the desktop, not in Disk Utility, not even in Disk Warrior. The physical disk sounds like it's running normally. Uh-oh. --Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Switching off Tiger feature, on slow Mac.
I have a slow Beige Mac, which I made Tiger Run.. Which feature do l turn off, to make OS 10.4 more like OS 10.3? I love my Beige, 3 5.25 Drive bays, onboard SCSI, I added PCI FW card to use Tiger, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
On Feb 28, 2009, at 9:33 PM, tonycd wrote: Pardon me for quasi-hijacking this thread, but I just ran into nearly the same exact problem. Only worse: my external FireWire drive isn't seen at all. (3 partitions: a Panther, a Tiger and a Leopard.) Just to try and keep things 'understandable' - Your External Firewire drive has 3 partitions. One of which boots Panther, One of which boots Tiger, and One of which boots Leopard. ALL of these partitions are JUST Partitions. There isn't ANYTHING other than the contents to define them as Panther, Tiger, or Leopard. The question is, which format is the Hard Disk? HFS, HFS+, or Journaled HFS+ ??? Worked last time. This time, none of the three show up anywhere. Not on the desktop, not in Disk Utility, not even in Disk Warrior. The physical disk sounds like it's running normally. Uh-oh. --Tony On Feb 28, 7:55 pm, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Ken W ken...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am running a PowerMac G4 dual 450 with OS X 10.3.9. I have 2 external firewire hard drives, a LaCie 80 GB and a LaCie 750 GB. The 750 has 3 partitions. Everything was working great, but I powered off my computer today and now when I rebooted the 80 GB is unmounted, and 2 of the 3 partitions on the 750 are unmounted. Disk Utility can see these unmounted drives/ partitions, but can not mount them. What the heck? I am not that technical with this kind of stuff. __ What file system were they formatted in? Do you shut it down regularly with no similar problem? Have you mounted them to any other machines recently? Have you installed any new software or updates recently that may have files in startup or shutdown folders? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Ken W ken...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Wallace, thank you for your help, here's the info: What file system were they formatted in? They are in Journaled HFS+ Do you shut it down regularly with no similar problem? Yes Have you mounted them to any other machines recently? No Have you installed any new software or updates recently that may have files in startup or shutdown folders? No, I started to install Flash 10, but did not get through the process because this requires OS X 10.4 or greater. I hope this is helpful. One other thing, when I booted up before this problem, the computer got stuck at the grey apple screen, sat there for over 10 minutes so I had to hard restart it. _ On this page is a grey screen link. check it out; http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1411#symp3 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:04 AM, tonycd wrote: On Feb 28, 10:47 pm, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: On Feb 28, 2009, at 9:33 PM, tonycd wrote: I know it isn't the first. I THINK it was the second. (Of course, now I can't find out.) The question is, which format is the Hard Disk? HFS, HFS+, or Journaled HFS+ ??? I think I'd take Kris's idea for a start. On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 28, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Ken W wrote: What the heck? I am not that technical with this kind of stuff. I used to boot from Firewire HDs all the time, and occasionally would run into a similar issue. The problem was somehow something switched the Firewire kext in OS X to some other setting. I remember I looked in the System.log when the Firewire was working and it always said something like A400 and 400Mbps somewhere. When it was broken and not mounting the HDs it said A100 and 100Mbps instead. I believe the solution was to use Onyx, Cocktail, or Applejack to clean the caches, etc., and reboot. Then it acted normally again. I don't know if this is your problem, but it worked for me when my Firewire drives stopped mounting. Whatever, when you find a fix, please let us know. Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iMac G3 DV SE (fall 2001) 1GHz?
Someone told me that iMac G3 DV SE (fall 2001) iMac (slot-loading) iMac G3 (slot loading) The iMac (slot loading). Developer Apple Inc. TypeDesktop Release date5 October 1999 CPU PowerPC G3, 350–700 MHz 1.0 GHz (SE edition only) October 5, 1999 — iMac/iMac DV/iMac DV SE. First revision with FireWire support, except for the 350 MHz (Blueberry) model. 350 or 400 MHz processor, slot-loading optical drive, same colors as rev C/D iMac, plus Special Edition in graphite color. Used ATI Rage 128 VR Graphics with 8 MB of VRAM. Included internal slot for 802.11b AirPort card (AirPort card adapter required). July 19, 2000 — iMac/iMac DV/iMac DV+/iMac DV SE. DV+ and DV SE models upgrade slot-loading CD-ROM to slot-loading DVD-ROM drive. 350, 400, 450 or 500 MHz processor, colors graphite (grey), ruby (red), snow (white), indigo (dark blue) and sage (green). Graphics updated to Rage 128 Pro, but still with 8 MB SGRAM. 350 MHz model (Indigo) lacked AirPort card slot and still lacked FireWire support. February 22, 2001 — (patterns). 400, 500 (PPC750CXe), or 600 (PPC750CXe) MHz processor. Available in Indigo, Graphite, and Blue Dalmatian or Flower Power patterns. DVD-ROM drive discontinued in favor of slot-loading CD-RW drive (low-end Indigo model has CD-ROM). 750CXe models features a new Pangea motherboard with a 16 MB ATI Rage 128 Ultra graphics chip. July 18, 2001 — (summer 2001). 500, 600, or 700 MHz (PPC750CXe) processor. Available in indigo, graphite, and snow. 700 MHz model discontinued in January 2002 after G4 iMacs were introduced. 500 and 600 MHz models discontinued March 2003. It was not released to the public that iMac DV SE G3 was 1.0 GHz until 2002.[citation needed] Link is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G3 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire hard drives not mounting
Charles Davis wrote: On Feb 28, 2009, at 9:33 PM, tonycd wrote: Pardon me for quasi-hijacking this thread, but I just ran into nearly the same exact problem. Only worse: my external FireWire drive isn't seen at all. (3 partitions: a Panther, a Tiger and a Leopard.) Just to try and keep things 'understandable' - Your External Firewire drive has 3 partitions. One of which boots Panther, One of which boots Tiger, and One of which boots Leopard. ALL of these partitions are JUST Partitions. There isn't ANYTHING other than the contents to define them as Panther, Tiger, or Leopard. The question is, which format is the Hard Disk? HFS, HFS+, or Journaled HFS+ ??? The harddisk isn't any format, the partitions are. You could mix HFS, HFS+ and FAT 32 on the same drive if you wanted to. The harddisk has a certain partition scheme. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
