Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP
Absolutely right. He didn't have to ask you or me the question. Only those who deal with fixing technical issues of the game should be asked. Your response is only delayed if they must get the query from a list of blind gamers rather than getting it directly from the one having the problem. This is true for any game. If you have a problem with a game, contact those who can address it. I have not played this game, so haven't seen the user's guide, but most guides specifically refer you to somewhere with technical issues, and that should be the first avenue taken. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP True but I think he meant privately so as not to clutter up the list. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: john Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 6:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP The dev is on the list... -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 19:57 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP Ask the developer, not the list. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:35 PM Subject: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP Hi there. Any word as to when the bug with the game not working with XP will be resolved? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP
My guess is when they fix it. LOL. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: Stephen Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 4:35 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP Hi there. Any word as to when the bug with the game not working with XP will be resolved? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP
So are many, many others who won't know the answer. Should they also be asked? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP The dev is on the list... -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 19:57 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP Ask the developer, not the list. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:35 PM Subject: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP Hi there. Any word as to when the bug with the game not working with XP will be resolved? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP
Hi there. Any word as to when the bug with the game not working with XP will be resolved? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP
Ask the developer, not the list. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:35 PM Subject: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP Hi there. Any word as to when the bug with the game not working with XP will be resolved? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP
True but I think he meant privately so as not to clutter up the list. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: john Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 6:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP The dev is on the list... -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 19:57 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP Ask the developer, not the list. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:35 PM Subject: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP Hi there. Any word as to when the bug with the game not working with XP will be resolved? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Interesting points. I wonder if the 360 degree view is really a requirement for a first person adventure then. Many of the Myst series of adventure games are definitely first person perspective but do not have 360 degree rotation / view in the game. I.E. You may turn right or left and then a different still image will be shown. So the degree of rotation really depends on what scenes are available from any particular vantage point in the game. There is certainly not anywhere near a 360 degree view though, even when many scenes are available. As you may know, the Myst series of games are most definitely adventure type games rather than shooters as there is actually no combat at all in them, in favor of exploration / puzzle-solving / mystery solving. I personally equate a 360 degree view with first person shooters rather than adventure games. So is 360 degree view really a requirement for a first person adventure? Great topic! :) Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On May 1, 2015, at 10:51 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I'd disagree that Shades of doom is a first person adventure, on audiogames.net it's classified as a first person shooter on the basis of the high amount of fast action sequences, sinse though you do have puzzles and mazelike levels, there are lots and lots of monsters after you and an arsonal of weapons to defeat them with. adventure games I always assume have less of an action focus and are more about the puzzles, the exploring etc. Indeed, this is why I decided to classify terraformers as a first person adventure, sinse though you do have a gun and shoot a couple of robots, you spend more of your time solving puzzles and the entire game plays more slowly. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Hi Ishan, There aren't many but there are a few first-person adventures that are accessible. The first is Monkey Business by Draconis Entertainment. The second is Shades of Doom by GMA Games. The third is Sarah by PCS Games. There is Swamp by Jeremy Kaldobsky. Finally there is Teraformers. Those are the main examples of accessible first-person games that come readily to mind. Cheers! On 5/1/15, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I am asking that if some first person adventure games are available for us. I know slender lost vision which I am not playing. only descent into madness which I played. Please if someone have some sort of knowledge about this topic then please reply. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
What are the Mist games that Kara mentioned? Thanks, Ari On May 1, 2015, at 5:50 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Kara. That's an interesting point. I don't know much about the mist series but I have heard of other games with such a viewpoint, although I've not heard of any accessible game working precisely this way, sinse usually the point of such games was to give a turn based, mostly text game the feeling of being more real time and immediate to the sighted user than it actually was, ie, instead of entering a room and seeing one static picture of the room's contents or a text description, you see the table on one side and a chair on the other, and to pick up items from the table or examine the chair you need to turn right or left to face it, then turn a different direction to go through a door, this is why I believe accept for some deliverately retro games like silver sword on Ios, most of that style of game were old dos adventures. I was going to say that I don't see the point of this in accessible terms, however if I think about it I can actually see advantages, given that you reduce the amount of jockying for movement a pleyr needs to do, and could reduce the number of sound sources in the environment by limiting them to only what she/he was immediately facing or beside, eg, you go into a room and hear an object sound indicating the table to one side, and only when you turn towards it do you get the sounds and identities of what objects are on it and any spoken description. Funnily enough, although they are real time we have had a couple of audiogames with a first person perspective that do not involve 360 degree movement, namely packman talks and dynaman, where you can move forward, and turn right or left, but only at 90 degree angles just like in those old adventure games, though obviously in soemthing like packman talks your moving continuously not in discrete steps and such games are still arcade games despite the perspective. One thing however that occurs to me, is that even though in these games you are limited in the angles you can turn, you can in fact effectively still turn! 360 degrees, even if by making three right turns or left turns, just like the way in something like shades of doom or sarah if you hit ctrl right arrow three times you'd be facing the opposite direction, where as in a side scrolling game despite as I said previously you still hearing things from the character's perspective, depending upon which way you look at it you either are walking forward with no way to turn backwards, or walking to the character's left or right with no way to increase or decrease your y coordinate, (if we assume that as in real life a side scroller's movements up or down are on the Z axis). I hope this makes sense. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
As far as I know there were a series of adventure games, some with i believe role playing element which as Kara said used a combination of still images and text. They've recieved particular priase for their stories I believe including published novelizations and books set in the same universe, or at least I recall an author I met telling me about such, though that was quite a while ago so I might've got the wrong end of the stick. Not accessible unfortunately, or at least I've never heard of such, though as I said I've only really heard the names and praise for the story, I don't know much else about the series. All the best, DArk. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Gmail englishride...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 3:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. What are the Mist games that Kara mentioned? Thanks, Ari On May 1, 2015, at 5:50 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Kara. That's an interesting point. I don't know much about the mist series but I have heard of other games with such a viewpoint, although I've not heard of any accessible game working precisely this way, sinse usually the point of such games was to give a turn based, mostly text game the feeling of being more real time and immediate to the sighted user than it actually was, ie, instead of entering a room and seeing one static picture of the room's contents or a text description, you see the table on one side and a chair on the other, and to pick up items from the table or examine the chair you need to turn right or left to face it, then turn a different direction to go through a door, this is why I believe accept for some deliverately retro games like silver sword on Ios, most of that style of game were old dos adventures. I was going to say that I don't see the point of this in accessible terms, however if I think about it I can actually see advantages, given that you reduce the amount of jockying for movement a pleyr needs to do, and could reduce the number of sound sources in the environment by limiting them to only what she/he was immediately facing or beside, eg, you go into a room and hear an object sound indicating the table to one side, and only when you turn towards it do you get the sounds and identities of what objects are on it and any spoken description. Funnily enough, although they are real time we have had a couple of audiogames with a first person perspective that do not involve 360 degree movement, namely packman talks and dynaman, where you can move forward, and turn right or left, but only at 90 degree angles just like in those old adventure games, though obviously in soemthing like packman talks your moving continuously not in discrete steps and such games are still arcade games despite the perspective. One thing however that occurs to me, is that even though in these games you are limited in the angles you can turn, you can in fact effectively still turn! 360 degrees, even if by making three right turns or left turns, just like the way in something like shades of doom or sarah if you hit ctrl right arrow three times you'd be facing the opposite direction, where as in a side scrolling game despite as I said previously you still hearing things from the character's perspective, depending upon which way you look at it you either are walking forward with no way to turn backwards, or walking to the character's left or right with no way to increase or decrease your y coordinate, (if we assume that as in real life a side scroller's movements up or down are on the Z axis). I hope this makes sense. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP
The dev is on the list... -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 19:57 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP Ask the developer, not the list. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:35 PM Subject: [Audyssey] psychostrike and windowsXP Hi there. Any word as to when the bug with the game not working with XP will be resolved? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Hi Kara. That's an interesting point. I don't know much about the mist series but I have heard of other games with such a viewpoint, although I've not heard of any accessible game working precisely this way, sinse usually the point of such games was to give a turn based, mostly text game the feeling of being more real time and immediate to the sighted user than it actually was, ie, instead of entering a room and seeing one static picture of the room's contents or a text description, you see the table on one side and a chair on the other, and to pick up items from the table or examine the chair you need to turn right or left to face it, then turn a different direction to go through a door, this is why I believe accept for some deliverately retro games like silver sword on Ios, most of that style of game were old dos adventures. I was going to say that I don't see the point of this in accessible terms, however if I think about it I can actually see advantages, given that you reduce the amount of jockying for movement a pleyr needs to do, and could reduce the number of sound sources in the environment by limiting them to only what she/he was immediately facing or beside, eg, you go into a room and hear an object sound indicating the table to one side, and only when you turn towards it do you get the sounds and identities of what objects are on it and any spoken description. Funnily enough, although they are real time we have had a couple of audiogames with a first person perspective that do not involve 360 degree movement, namely packman talks and dynaman, where you can move forward, and turn right or left, but only at 90 degree angles just like in those old adventure games, though obviously in soemthing like packman talks your moving continuously not in discrete steps and such games are still arcade games despite the perspective. One thing however that occurs to me, is that even though in these games you are limited in the angles you can turn, you can in fact effectively still turn! 360 degrees, even if by making three right turns or left turns, just like the way in something like shades of doom or sarah if you hit ctrl right arrow three times you'd be facing the opposite direction, where as in a side scrolling game despite as I said previously you still hearing things from the character's perspective, depending upon which way you look at it you either are walking forward with no way to turn backwards, or walking to the character's left or right with no way to increase or decrease your y coordinate, (if we assume that as in real life a side scroller's movements up or down are on the Z axis). I hope this makes sense. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Hi everyone. I am asking that if some first person adventure games are available for us. I know slender lost vision which I am not playing. only descent into madness which I played. Please if someone have some sort of knowledge about this topic then please reply. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] valhalla
Hello friends! Do you have any information about valhalla? I am playing this mud and in that I am an assassin conjerrer the thing is that I am not able to pick up a large staff which is lying around. another issue which is I am facing is that I am not able to kill the stupid rabit which is laughing continuesly at me. well enough rambling the main question is that Is this accessible for us? When I use the kill command which is KR for kill rabit and the mud saying that it is not a valid command. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] valhalla
hi Ishen. try separating the k and the r. Most muds work like interactive fiction games, you need to separate the command and it. Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 1:13 PM Subject: [Audyssey] valhalla Hello friends! Do you have any information about valhalla? I am playing this mud and in that I am an assassin conjerrer the thing is that I am not able to pick up a large staff which is lying around. another issue which is I am facing is that I am not able to kill the stupid rabit which is laughing continuesly at me. well enough rambling the main question is that Is this accessible for us? When I use the kill command which is KR for kill rabit and the mud saying that it is not a valid command. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Hi Ishen. Descent into madness isn't first person adventure, the first person bit means 360 degree movement. I'm actually a bit surprised you come on here and ask when first person adventure games is a genre on audiogames.net (one I just added myself, indeed if I were suspicious I would wonder if your just asking to be contrary after seeing the genre). For a list just go to audiogames.net, use the search games list and choose first person adventures in the second dropdown box (the one for game genres). Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 1:03 PM Subject: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Hi everyone. I am asking that if some first person adventure games are available for us. I know slender lost vision which I am not playing. only descent into madness which I played. Please if someone have some sort of knowledge about this topic then please reply. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts
Hi Jeremy I do have to say as I think someone else has pointed out, if a child is old enough to be allowed on a computer unsupervised to download and view what they choose then there are a lot more worrying things online than a violent audio game. Just on uTube alone there is I'm sure more graphic and inappropriate content which is just a click or 2 away from anyone accessing a pc. I think this is the responsibility of a parent to teach their children what they are allowed to view online, I think the fact that the game warns people is amble to warn anyone of what is to be expected and people can choose to either download or not and if people choose to ignore the warning that is their choice and if it's a child too young to be exposed to this kind of game I question whether they should be allowed to freely view the web unsupervised as mentioned previously there is a lot more not only inappropriate but dangerous content accessible online. also with grand theft auto that to can be brought online through ps online or the xbox store either as the game or as a free demo and although I haven't checked I'm pretty sure there will only be a warning there Regards Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Brown Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:50 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and paypal accounts In response to the points about physical CD's versus download and/or paypal accounts. I was not necessarily suggesting that a physical CD be involved, merely a code key that would have to be mailed separately. However, as I also said in the original post, I don't expect VGStorm to do either. It is extra cost that would have to be passed on to consumers, and for a small company like VGStorm that's an unacceptable cost. I fully understand both the reality of the new gaming environment, and the position of Aaron's company; there's a fine balance between how you deliver games, how much they cost, and what precautions you have to take to avoid cracking, in this case improper download by minors, etc. I offered two suggestions. Neither is a super practical one. However, that said, I do not think that as game developers we have to say everyone else markets graphically violent games, therefore as long as I have a warning, I've done my bit. With a physical game, such as Grand Theft Auto which several people have brought up, in most places, a kid can't just walk in and buy the game. They're usually behind a counter, in a locked case, etc. That's not to say that kids do not play them without parental supervision, but I, like Thomas, monitor what my kids do, and I like it when companies at least produce an illusion of controlling who their products go to. As to Paypal, honestly, it's been years since I set up a Paypal account, and my memory of it is hazy. However, I know a lot of kids have bank accounts. Just as with anything else, it could be finagled. However, I think you're missing my essential point here. Once someone buys the game, they've gone through some effort either in getting a credit card by hook or by crook, or by accomplishing the goal some other way. My issue, isn't so much with the purchase as with the fact that this game is extremely violent, starts off with a extremely anti-social incident as the motivation for the entire rest of the game, and not only can anyone who downloads it play that sequence, but they are forced to to play the rest of the game. I'm not worried about the 10 year old kid who plays this game after buying it because they dupe their parents. I'm pointing out that any 10 year old can download and play the game. I feel that any developer, myself included, needs to consider these sorts of things when developing a game. If the game is free to download in either a demo mode or a full version, and it contains graphic content, no matter yur definition of minor or adult, you have to realize that people are downloading it. A warning message probably exacerbates this more than it stops people. It would have for me when I was younger. A friend of mine and I cracked Leisure Suit Larry back in the eighties precisely because we weren't supposed to. If the first sequence were modified or removed, this game would still bother me for the violence, but it would have set off my warning sensors a lot less. Thanks for listening yet again:) Take care, Jeremy On 4/29/15, gamers-requ...@audyssey.org gamers-requ...@audyssey.org wrote: Send Gamers mailing list submissions to gamers@audyssey.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gamers-requ...@audyssey.org You can reach the person managing the list at gamers-ow...@audyssey.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts
Hi Paul, You raise some valid points. If a child is old enough to be unsupervised on the internet then they are probably old enough to decide for themselves weather or not to download a certain game or view certain content. In such a case the best a site owner or game developer can do is make appropriate warnings as to the content being viewed. For example, most pornography sites have a page that pops up every time the site is accessed letting the user know that the site contains sexually explicit content and the person entering must be at least 18. If they click the I agree button and enter the site knowing what content is about to be viewed the legal responsibility becomes that of the person doing the browsing not the site owner or owners. With games there is usually a similar warning in place. In adult interactive fiction, for example, it always comes up with a disclaimer that prompts the user to enter yes or no if they agree to the terms. After the user types yes and agrees to the terms of service it becomes his or her own responsibility what to do with the content. I think a similar warning system could be implemented in games like Psycho Strike that serves the same purpose. When the game is first launched it will let the user know this is an extremely violent game, is not suitable for people under 16, and have them agree to the terms of service. After that there is really little anyone can do to make sure that someone who is age appropriate plays the game. Cheers! On 5/1/15, Paul Lemm paul.lem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy I do have to say as I think someone else has pointed out, if a child is old enough to be allowed on a computer unsupervised to download and view what they choose then there are a lot more worrying things online than a violent audio game. Just on uTube alone there is I'm sure more graphic and inappropriate content which is just a click or 2 away from anyone accessing a pc. I think this is the responsibility of a parent to teach their children what they are allowed to view online, I think the fact that the game warns people is amble to warn anyone of what is to be expected and people can choose to either download or not and if people choose to ignore the warning that is their choice and if it's a child too young to be exposed to this kind of game I question whether they should be allowed to freely view the web unsupervised as mentioned previously there is a lot more not only inappropriate but dangerous content accessible online. also with grand theft auto that to can be brought online through ps online or the xbox store either as the game or as a free demo and although I haven't checked I'm pretty sure there will only be a warning there Regards Paul --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Hi Ishan, There aren't many but there are a few first-person adventures that are accessible. The first is Monkey Business by Draconis Entertainment. The second is Shades of Doom by GMA Games. The third is Sarah by PCS Games. There is Swamp by Jeremy Kaldobsky. Finally there is Teraformers. Those are the main examples of accessible first-person games that come readily to mind. Cheers! On 5/1/15, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I am asking that if some first person adventure games are available for us. I know slender lost vision which I am not playing. only descent into madness which I played. Please if someone have some sort of knowledge about this topic then please reply. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
I play psycho strike and laugh at it just knocking down prison doors something i could never do in reality is to me funny and fun. And its fun to name characters after people in real life that I do not get along with that well at the moment or just to hear their names in the game saying that they are or were a gang leader. To me its funny and fun. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 4:04 AM, shaun everiss wrote: Aggreed chareles I have a friend that plays such games on his headset but yeah once you are mature yeah. My issue with some games is if they emulate life to closely. I use games as an escape doing something I wouldn't do in real life. I guess if I was in a gang already playing this game then it would be a problem or if I was thinking about doing this sort of thing in real life it would be an issue. But since I am not a starship pilot or gang member or anything in all the games I play then its all ok. Not to say there are games I don't play because its a bit to close to reality. survive the wild is one of those, while I am not lost in the wild my life while not that bad does have sertain elements off that game in it and its to close to home really. Psychostrike is really good but I agree I won't be playing this in short bursts. At 03:59 p.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: If I had sons, they would have to play GTA elsewhere, if even there. Part of parenting is making sure that your kids play appropriate games, watch appropriate TV, and such. Also, I would make sure that they know that games are in no way reality. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations Hi Ron, Who is to say people don't take issues with their kids playing games like grand Theft Auto? Truth is I am one of them. Even though my son might want games like that I don't buy them for him. I tend to buy age appropriate games, and those I feel do not compromise my moral inclinations. I always find out what the game is about before buying it, and also check what age it was designed for etc. While I know some parentsjust don't care I'm not one of them. On 4/29/15, Ron hopkins ard...@samobile.net wrote: Hello. This is Ron. So I'm reading through these mails. Well, I'd like to know, how come people don't take issues with 10 year old kids playing games like grand theft auto, a game that has very graphic violents from what I've been told, where you have sex with women and then kill them by running them over, among other things. I think we need more games like this for the blind, What happened to society putting limits on what there kids watch and play. I personally love the sounds. We all know what is depicted in this game is very wrong, but after its basically roll playing. How many muds and other text games do people play where your a rogue and steal? Thats wrong too. Just an observation. I hope to be buying this game soon. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Hi Dark, Actually, to be more accurate first-person means that the game is written from a first-person perspective be it visual or audio. However, you are also correct in saying it offers 360 degrees of movement as apposed to a 2d left/right and up/down environment. Cheers! On 5/1/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Ishen. Descent into madness isn't first person adventure, the first person bit means 360 degree movement. I'm actually a bit surprised you come on here and ask when first person adventure games is a genre on audiogames.net (one I just added myself, indeed if I were suspicious I would wonder if your just asking to be contrary after seeing the genre). For a list just go to audiogames.net, use the search games list and choose first person adventures in the second dropdown box (the one for game genres). Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
LOL. I like to give my character my own name and age, although there is a particular ex-girlfriend's name I'll also occasionally use for whom I have a particularly intense dislike. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: Josh K Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations I play psycho strike and laugh at it just knocking down prison doors something i could never do in reality is to me funny and fun. And its fun to name characters after people in real life that I do not get along with that well at the moment or just to hear their names in the game saying that they are or were a gang leader. To me its funny and fun. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 4:04 AM, shaun everiss wrote: Aggreed chareles I have a friend that plays such games on his headset but yeah once you are mature yeah. My issue with some games is if they emulate life to closely. I use games as an escape doing something I wouldn't do in real life. I guess if I was in a gang already playing this game then it would be a problem or if I was thinking about doing this sort of thing in real life it would be an issue. But since I am not a starship pilot or gang member or anything in all the games I play then its all ok. Not to say there are games I don't play because its a bit to close to reality. survive the wild is one of those, while I am not lost in the wild my life while not that bad does have sertain elements off that game in it and its to close to home really. Psychostrike is really good but I agree I won't be playing this in short bursts. At 03:59 p.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: If I had sons, they would have to play GTA elsewhere, if even there. Part of parenting is making sure that your kids play appropriate games, watch appropriate TV, and such. Also, I would make sure that they know that games are in no way reality. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations Hi Ron, Who is to say people don't take issues with their kids playing games like grand Theft Auto? Truth is I am one of them. Even though my son might want games like that I don't buy them for him. I tend to buy age appropriate games, and those I feel do not compromise my moral inclinations. I always find out what the game is about before buying it, and also check what age it was designed for etc. While I know some parentsjust don't care I'm not one of them. On 4/29/15, Ron hopkins ard...@samobile.net wrote: Hello. This is Ron. So I'm reading through these mails. Well, I'd like to know, how come people don't take issues with 10 year old kids playing games like grand theft auto, a game that has very graphic violents from what I've been told, where you have sex with women and then kill them by running them over, among other things. I think we need more games like this for the blind, What happened to society putting limits on what there kids watch and play. I personally love the sounds. We all know what is depicted in this game is very wrong, but after its basically roll playing. How many muds and other text games do people play where your a rogue and steal? Thats wrong too. Just an observation. I hope to be buying this game soon. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
There really aren't that many puzzles though beyond the one at the end of the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:51 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Hi Tom. I'd disagree that Shades of doom is a first person adventure, on audiogames.net it's classified as a first person shooter on the basis of the high amount of fast action sequences, sinse though you do have puzzles and mazelike levels, there are lots and lots of monsters after you and an arsonal of weapons to defeat them with. adventure games I always assume have less of an action focus and are more about the puzzles, the exploring etc. Indeed, this is why I decided to classify terraformers as a first person adventure, sinse though you do have a gun and shoot a couple of robots, you spend more of your time solving puzzles and the entire game plays more slowly. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Hi Ishan, There aren't many but there are a few first-person adventures that are accessible. The first is Monkey Business by Draconis Entertainment. The second is Shades of Doom by GMA Games. The third is Sarah by PCS Games. There is Swamp by Jeremy Kaldobsky. Finally there is Teraformers. Those are the main examples of accessible first-person games that come readily to mind. Cheers! On 5/1/15, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I am asking that if some first person adventure games are available for us. I know slender lost vision which I am not playing. only descent into madness which I played. Please if someone have some sort of knowledge about this topic then please reply. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
I like everything from fantasy to sports to shooter games and killing games. they're all lots of fun to play. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 3:58 AM, shaun everiss wrote: Tom it depends on the player in question. This game is not for a newby by any means. I have played games for a number of years and while the story is a bit lacking in some arieas its one you make your own story as you go. I have played gangster games online and have liked that well the idea of being a gang leader. For me this is a way to be one without leaving my chair to do it. I do agree that this is not for everyone. But then if you really didn't care for killing you would have stayd away from most shooters etc. At 03:24 p.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: Hi Dark, Well, weather the violence in the game is harmless or not is up for debate. In my personal opinion it is harmless in the sense that nobody really gets hurt, it isn't really hurting anyone in real life, but I find the nature of the violence in the game emotionally disturbing. For example, when the game first loads you walk into a party and just start stabbing people at random to death until all 10 of the party goers are dead. We could argue that it is just a game, that we are just acting out the part of a psychopathic killer, but for me doing so is still unethical because I don't take killing people lightly. I'm one of those sorts of people who is in favor of abolishing the death penalty in the U.S. and am active in other humanitarian groups so just walking into a party, bar, or some other place and killing people in a game isn't my idea of fun or entertainment. It goes against my moral and ethical inclinations to do so, and I found the game disturbing to say the least. I suppose that is why when I have enemies in my own games they aren't particularly human. In MOTA, for instance, the enemies are skeletons,harpies, centaurs, and so forth. Those are monsters not people. Therefore I don't feel any ethical or moral objection to killing them. Same goes with mowing down hoards of zombies in Swamp. I don't consider zombies people so have no objection to slicing, dicing, or killing as many of them as I can. On 4/29/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: @Desiree, interesting comment on violence. I will say this is why I don't tend to enjoy crime based games such as torn city or I mobsters myself. Nottingham where I grew up and where my parents live has the highest gun crime rate in the Uk and one of the highest over all in the country, it really is one of these cities where you don't walk around in the city center after dark. That is why I don't live there anymore, but also why crime has never particularly interested me in a game sinse hay if I want to see da gangers hangin in da getto I hardly need to play a game :D. That being said all I've heard of Psycho strike's gameplay has been hugely interesting, and a bit of harmless violence provided it is harmless violence can be fun on occasion, so I'll reserve judgement until I've tried the thing. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
hey shawn could you get your own house or apartment then you could play what you want whenever you want no family to bother you. My 8 year old son can play what he wants when he wants after his homework is done, I just put steam into family mode, disabled chatting and stuff and he can choose any game that is rated up to and including games rated e10. and one or two games rated t for teen that are fine for him. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 3:53 AM, shaun everiss wrote: To be honest tom I am mindfull of what games I play near what family I have a religious part of the family, so I keep this game and my other adult games out of reach. When no one is home then those games are blasting out the speakers and I am killing people left right and centre. Fact is though I have sometimes had the situation where someone has come and have had to quit the program in question. I really wouldn't mind to keep the evil part of my life to myself when I am alone with myself. Right now I guess the main reason I got this stuff is to releave some stress with some house building its needed I know and it has meant a lot of my other online gaming has to stop while its going on. From time to time I need to get out of the noise and things for 10 minutes. So I just go and take out the stress on a game I have done this with shades of doom to. After I have done this I have felt a lot better or at least able to survive another few hours of mess. So I guess we have our own reasons. Ofcause there are games where you are a terrorist shooting people for no reason etc. And yeah some games have no story at all. This game could be an interesting thing but its not something I'd play for more than 10 minutes a day. At 03:08 p.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: Hi Ron, Who is to say people don't take issues with their kids playing games like grand Theft Auto? Truth is I am one of them. Even though my son might want games like that I don't buy them for him. I tend to buy age appropriate games, and those I feel do not compromise my moral inclinations. I always find out what the game is about before buying it, and also check what age it was designed for etc. While I know some parentsjust don't care I'm not one of them. On 4/29/15, Ron hopkins ard...@samobile.net wrote: Hello. This is Ron. So I'm reading through these mails. Well, I'd like to know, how come people don't take issues with 10 year old kids playing games like grand theft auto, a game that has very graphic violents from what I've been told, where you have sex with women and then kill them by running them over, among other things. I think we need more games like this for the blind, What happened to society putting limits on what there kids watch and play. I personally love the sounds. We all know what is depicted in this game is very wrong, but after its basically roll playing. How many muds and other text games do people play where your a rogue and steal? Thats wrong too. Just an observation. I hope to be buying this game soon. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
[Audyssey] perspective was; Re: first person adventure games.
Hi Tom. While I take your point about first person perspectives, and in fairness in my e-mail to Ishen I was slightly using short hand, at the same time I do think first person is a tad harder to define in audio without talking in terms of movement. An audio side scroller like superliam for example in one sense does have a first person perspective, sinse your viewpoint (hearing point? audiopoint?), is from the central location of the character. You hear what is ahead of them in the direction of travel, left or right, and what is behind them in the other direction, and what you hear changes according to their position relative to the enemies. Imagine you were making your way sideways along a wall with sound sources ahead and behind you and how they would rise and fade relative to your 1D movement towards or away and you'll see what I mean. In a graphical side scroller like marrio brothers, you see a great many things that your character would not from his/her current location. For example, in the first level of Marrio when you come up to a pipe, you see Marrio's position to the left, but also you can see the top of the pipe and what is on the other side of it. That is not true of an audio side scroller, though interestingly enough it can be true of games where you can run in four directions, up down left and right such as airic the clerric, sinse you can there often here stuff that is in game terms quite a distance from your character, or behind walls etc. This is why i always tend to think first person in audio needs the clarrification of the movement in addition to just mentioning the perspective as well. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and th ere are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Hi Dark, Actually, to be more accurate first-person means that the game is written from a first-person perspective be it visual or audio. However, you are also correct in saying it offers 360 degrees of movement as apposed to a 2d left/right and up/down environment. Cheers! On 5/1/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Ishen. Descent into madness isn't first person adventure, the first person bit means 360 degree movement. I'm actually a bit surprised you come on here and ask when first person adventure games is a genre on audiogames.net (one I just added myself, indeed if I were suspicious I would wonder if your just asking to be contrary after seeing the genre). For a list just go to audiogames.net, use the search games list and choose first person adventures in the second dropdown box (the one for game genres). Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Mmm Bryan, I'm not sure what you mean or which game your referring to here. with Shades, I did think there were a couple of puzzles like the hole in the wall and the key in the box, plus the wafer one qualifies although for the most part as I said it's very much a blast fest. For Terraformers there were puzzles all the way through, sinse even if some involved interactions with audio objects like the control pannels and tone wheels they're still puzzles of a kind. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. There really aren't that many puzzles though beyond the one at the end of the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:51 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Hi Tom. I'd disagree that Shades of doom is a first person adventure, on audiogames.net it's classified as a first person shooter on the basis of the high amount of fast action sequences, sinse though you do have puzzles and mazelike levels, there are lots and lots of monsters after you and an arsonal of weapons to defeat them with. adventure games I always assume have less of an action focus and are more about the puzzles, the exploring etc. Indeed, this is why I decided to classify terraformers as a first person adventure, sinse though you do have a gun and shoot a couple of robots, you spend more of your time solving puzzles and the entire game plays more slowly. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Hi Ishan, There aren't many but there are a few first-person adventures that are accessible. The first is Monkey Business by Draconis Entertainment. The second is Shades of Doom by GMA Games. The third is Sarah by PCS Games. There is Swamp by Jeremy Kaldobsky. Finally there is Teraformers. Those are the main examples of accessible first-person games that come readily to mind. Cheers! On 5/1/15, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I am asking that if some first person adventure games are available for us. I know slender lost vision which I am not playing. only descent into madness which I played. Please if someone have some sort of knowledge about this topic then please reply. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. ---
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
yes try alter aeon with the mush z client. lots of fun! follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 5/1/2015 8:03 AM, ishan dhami wrote: Hi everyone. I am asking that if some first person adventure games are available for us. I know slender lost vision which I am not playing. only descent into madness which I played. Please if someone have some sort of knowledge about this topic then please reply. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Hi Tom. I'd disagree that Shades of doom is a first person adventure, on audiogames.net it's classified as a first person shooter on the basis of the high amount of fast action sequences, sinse though you do have puzzles and mazelike levels, there are lots and lots of monsters after you and an arsonal of weapons to defeat them with. adventure games I always assume have less of an action focus and are more about the puzzles, the exploring etc. Indeed, this is why I decided to classify terraformers as a first person adventure, sinse though you do have a gun and shoot a couple of robots, you spend more of your time solving puzzles and the entire game plays more slowly. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Hi Ishan, There aren't many but there are a few first-person adventures that are accessible. The first is Monkey Business by Draconis Entertainment. The second is Shades of Doom by GMA Games. The third is Sarah by PCS Games. There is Swamp by Jeremy Kaldobsky. Finally there is Teraformers. Those are the main examples of accessible first-person games that come readily to mind. Cheers! On 5/1/15, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I am asking that if some first person adventure games are available for us. I know slender lost vision which I am not playing. only descent into madness which I played. Please if someone have some sort of knowledge about this topic then please reply. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Hi Josh. With respect I wouldn't say alteraeon is first person either, sinse even with the awsome soundpack it's still a mud with your location and position dictated by text ad your chief interactions being real time interactions with in game events, rather than turning, targeting and evading as in a first person game. also, though the differences between adventures and rpgs are harder to define, I'd personally say Alteraeon is definitely an rpg with it's stats, classes, turn based combat etc, though it certainly has a good amount of story, quests, quest items and exploring. Beware the Grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. yes try alter aeon with the mush z client. lots of fun! follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 5/1/2015 8:03 AM, ishan dhami wrote: Hi everyone. I am asking that if some first person adventure games are available for us. I know slender lost vision which I am not playing. only descent into madness which I played. Please if someone have some sort of knowledge about this topic then please reply. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts
Hi Thomas, That's a pretty good idea,I guess if you have something like that which comes up before you play the game that you have to agree to as you said it then puts the responsibility on the person agreeing to the disclaimer also it prevents people saying they missed the warning on the website. All this being said I have to confess to not actually playing this game yet, I've downloaded but just haven't had the time to try it so am looking forward to trying it after all the hype. I guess at the end of the day for me it's not so much about the content of a game it can be either a violent or nonviolent , strategic or creative game I really enjoy anything if it's a good game, well written with lots of playability I'll play and enjoy it for the good game it is ,a bit like grand theft auto which was a favourite game of mine years ago, it wasn't my favourite because of the violence but due to the game play, the freedom to explore where you wanted and all the challenges and hidden/unlockable type content that the game offered Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 4:55 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts Hi Paul, You raise some valid points. If a child is old enough to be unsupervised on the internet then they are probably old enough to decide for themselves weather or not to download a certain game or view certain content. In such a case the best a site owner or game developer can do is make appropriate warnings as to the content being viewed. For example, most pornography sites have a page that pops up every time the site is accessed letting the user know that the site contains sexually explicit content and the person entering must be at least 18. If they click the I agree button and enter the site knowing what content is about to be viewed the legal responsibility becomes that of the person doing the browsing not the site owner or owners. With games there is usually a similar warning in place. In adult interactive fiction, for example, it always comes up with a disclaimer that prompts the user to enter yes or no if they agree to the terms. After the user types yes and agrees to the terms of service it becomes his or her own responsibility what to do with the content. I think a similar warning system could be implemented in games like Psycho Strike that serves the same purpose. When the game is first launched it will let the user know this is an extremely violent game, is not suitable for people under 16, and have them agree to the terms of service. After that there is really little anyone can do to make sure that someone who is age appropriate plays the game. Cheers! On 5/1/15, Paul Lemm paul.lem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy I do have to say as I think someone else has pointed out, if a child is old enough to be allowed on a computer unsupervised to download and view what they choose then there are a lot more worrying things online than a violent audio game. Just on uTube alone there is I'm sure more graphic and inappropriate content which is just a click or 2 away from anyone accessing a pc. I think this is the responsibility of a parent to teach their children what they are allowed to view online, I think the fact that the game warns people is amble to warn anyone of what is to be expected and people can choose to either download or not and if people choose to ignore the warning that is their choice and if it's a child too young to be exposed to this kind of game I question whether they should be allowed to freely view the web unsupervised as mentioned previously there is a lot more not only inappropriate but dangerous content accessible online. also with grand theft auto that to can be brought online through ps online or the xbox store either as the game or as a free demo and although I haven't checked I'm pretty sure there will only be a warning there Regards Paul --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
I was talking about Shades. I haven't played Terraformers much since it's incredibly sluggish on my machine. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 11:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Mmm Bryan, I'm not sure what you mean or which game your referring to here. with Shades, I did think there were a couple of puzzles like the hole in the wall and the key in the box, plus the wafer one qualifies although for the most part as I said it's very much a blast fest. For Terraformers there were puzzles all the way through, sinse even if some involved interactions with audio objects like the control pannels and tone wheels they're still puzzles of a kind. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. There really aren't that many puzzles though beyond the one at the end of the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:51 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Hi Tom. I'd disagree that Shades of doom is a first person adventure, on audiogames.net it's classified as a first person shooter on the basis of the high amount of fast action sequences, sinse though you do have puzzles and mazelike levels, there are lots and lots of monsters after you and an arsonal of weapons to defeat them with. adventure games I always assume have less of an action focus and are more about the puzzles, the exploring etc. Indeed, this is why I decided to classify terraformers as a first person adventure, sinse though you do have a gun and shoot a couple of robots, you spend more of your time solving puzzles and the entire game plays more slowly. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Hi Ishan, There aren't many but there are a few first-person adventures that are accessible. The first is Monkey Business by Draconis Entertainment. The second is Shades of Doom by GMA Games. The third is Sarah by PCS Games. There is Swamp by Jeremy Kaldobsky. Finally there is Teraformers. Those are the main examples of accessible first-person games that come readily to mind. Cheers! On 5/1/15, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I am asking that if some first person adventure games are available for us. I know slender lost vision which I am not playing. only descent into madness which I played. Please if someone have some sort of knowledge about this topic then please reply. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts
@Desiry, in fairness to Jeremy his objection to the game is based on it's actual content and the motivation of it's characters, not just it's depictions of violence. Jim kitchin's games are all clearly marked as adult, indeed they're in a separate part of his site from his other games and on audiogames.net they're listed as Adult xxx with clear warnings in the description, and yet actually we have still had a couple of complaints (though I have a sneaking suspicion those were from people who downloaded the games without reading what they were before hand). As a side scroller, even as a side scroller with weapons and action,Psychostrike is rather more innocuous, sinse the area under scrutiny is the senselessness of the slaughterings and crimes involved, not intrinsically their depiction. I'm not going to get into the debate again about this, but in fairness I can see why perhaps a more prominant warning on site might be useful, perhaps one contained in some of the links, eg list the game as psycho strike game with extreme violence or have a confirmation message box with the warning text somewhere rather than listing the game next to other innocuous titles like paladin of the sky and adventure at C:. Once the warning is displayed however, what people do is their affair. Heck, I suffer genophobia and could not play one of jim Kitchin's adult games without extreme discomfort, but thanks to the warnings I have never had to, either deliberately or by accident, which is really all you can say. All the best, Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts I'm trying to remember which game it is that I've played that makes you agree that you're over 18 each time you play it. That's going to bother me now. It's an audio game, I believe, and while I think that's overkill, maybe a similar thing could be put in place in this game as well. I also have to ask this, why didn't anyone ever complain about the content in some of Jim Kitchen's sexually explicit games? Those games are free, are very small downloads, and are actually very easy to hide, because they're buried in a mess of other games inside a rather disorganized directory structure. No offense intended by saying that, I'm just stating a fact. But I apologize for being blunt. Anyway, I would argue that children have probably downloaded these games, too, but I've never heard a peep about it. Same with Slender, the Lost Vision. This game, if memory serves, was released shortly after the incident which Dark referenced in a previous message in which a girl was nearly killed because her friends thought they were going to please Slenderman. Again, this game is free, relatively small, and easy to access. So why is Psycho Strike getting a bad rap when other questionable content has been released in the past? Maybe I just didn't hear about similar objections that were raised? On 5/1/2015 11:54 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Paul, You raise some valid points. If a child is old enough to be unsupervised on the internet then they are probably old enough to decide for themselves weather or not to download a certain game or view certain content. In such a case the best a site owner or game developer can do is make appropriate warnings as to the content being viewed. For example, most pornography sites have a page that pops up every time the site is accessed letting the user know that the site contains sexually explicit content and the person entering must be at least 18. If they click the I agree button and enter the site knowing what content is about to be viewed the legal responsibility becomes that of the person doing the browsing not the site owner or owners. With games there is usually a similar warning in place. In adult interactive fiction, for example, it always comes up with a disclaimer that prompts the user to enter yes or no if they agree to the terms. After the user types yes and agrees to the terms of service it becomes his or her own responsibility what to do with the content. I think a similar warning system could be implemented in games like Psycho Strike that serves the same purpose. When the game is first launched it will let the user know this is an extremely violent game, is not suitable for people under 16, and have them agree to the terms of service. After that there is really little anyone can do to make sure that someone who is age appropriate plays the game. Cheers! On 5/1/15, Paul Lemm paul.lem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy I do have to say as I think someone else has pointed out, if a child is old enough to be allowed on
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Ah, fare enough Bryan. Well as I said I wouldn't go as far as saying there are literally no puzzles, albeit the wafer one is probably the only really serious multi object puzzle in the game, most others revolve around mazes and hidden objects, but compared to the amount of shooty shooty there certainly isn't much, hence the fps classification over on audiogames.net. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts
I'm trying to remember which game it is that I've played that makes you agree that you're over 18 each time you play it. That's going to bother me now. It's an audio game, I believe, and while I think that's overkill, maybe a similar thing could be put in place in this game as well. I also have to ask this, why didn't anyone ever complain about the content in some of Jim Kitchen's sexually explicit games? Those games are free, are very small downloads, and are actually very easy to hide, because they're buried in a mess of other games inside a rather disorganized directory structure. No offense intended by saying that, I'm just stating a fact. But I apologize for being blunt. Anyway, I would argue that children have probably downloaded these games, too, but I've never heard a peep about it. Same with Slender, the Lost Vision. This game, if memory serves, was released shortly after the incident which Dark referenced in a previous message in which a girl was nearly killed because her friends thought they were going to please Slenderman. Again, this game is free, relatively small, and easy to access. So why is Psycho Strike getting a bad rap when other questionable content has been released in the past? Maybe I just didn't hear about similar objections that were raised? On 5/1/2015 11:54 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Paul, You raise some valid points. If a child is old enough to be unsupervised on the internet then they are probably old enough to decide for themselves weather or not to download a certain game or view certain content. In such a case the best a site owner or game developer can do is make appropriate warnings as to the content being viewed. For example, most pornography sites have a page that pops up every time the site is accessed letting the user know that the site contains sexually explicit content and the person entering must be at least 18. If they click the I agree button and enter the site knowing what content is about to be viewed the legal responsibility becomes that of the person doing the browsing not the site owner or owners. With games there is usually a similar warning in place. In adult interactive fiction, for example, it always comes up with a disclaimer that prompts the user to enter yes or no if they agree to the terms. After the user types yes and agrees to the terms of service it becomes his or her own responsibility what to do with the content. I think a similar warning system could be implemented in games like Psycho Strike that serves the same purpose. When the game is first launched it will let the user know this is an extremely violent game, is not suitable for people under 16, and have them agree to the terms of service. After that there is really little anyone can do to make sure that someone who is age appropriate plays the game. Cheers! On 5/1/15, Paul Lemm paul.lem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeremy I do have to say as I think someone else has pointed out, if a child is old enough to be allowed on a computer unsupervised to download and view what they choose then there are a lot more worrying things online than a violent audio game. Just on uTube alone there is I'm sure more graphic and inappropriate content which is just a click or 2 away from anyone accessing a pc. I think this is the responsibility of a parent to teach their children what they are allowed to view online, I think the fact that the game warns people is amble to warn anyone of what is to be expected and people can choose to either download or not and if people choose to ignore the warning that is their choice and if it's a child too young to be exposed to this kind of game I question whether they should be allowed to freely view the web unsupervised as mentioned previously there is a lot more not only inappropriate but dangerous content accessible online. also with grand theft auto that to can be brought online through ps online or the xbox store either as the game or as a free demo and although I haven't checked I'm pretty sure there will only be a warning there Regards Paul --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns
Re: [Audyssey] Psycho Strike - New Action/Strategy Game
On 4/27/15, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi all! VGStorm.com and Blastbay Studios are happy to announce the availability of our new game, Psycho Strike! Psycho Strike is a mix between an RPG, a first person shooter and an adventure game. It captures the best parts of each genre in order to create a truly unique and groundbreaking gaming experience. In Psycho Strike, you take the roll of a gangster leader. Throughout your adventure you will have the opportunity to collect weapons, recruit new criminals for your team of violent outlaws, collect more and more powerful items to fortify your base, and just terrorize the city in general. The game is available for download and purchase from www.vgstorm.com. The demo has no time limit, but restricts some areas and ends when any of the people in your team reach experience level 8. The game can be purchased for 24.95 USD. A word of warning: The game features violence, drugs, and other themes not suitable for younger players. We advise that no children under the age of 16 play the game without parental approval. We hope you enjoy this title and look forward to hearing your thoughts! Please direct any questions, bug reports or other comments to vgstorm.com, or respond directly here. Thanks for reading! Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Hello Philip! the game is ausum however, like swamp and other paid games... its not possible to buy them from within Pakistan. is there any way to buy the game with ATM card? cause I also don't have a credit card (its not easy to get, one needs to have a balance of amore than a 10 in their bank account to get a credit card, which I don't have as I am a student). please tell me, because I am dieing to play the full mode! thankx --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
LOL that's why I said there aren't many other puzzles rather than there are none. That puzzle in level five where you had to coose either to use one of the two teleporters or blow up one wall to get into that room where the message used to be before version 1.2 comes to mind. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 11:58 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Ah, fare enough Bryan. Well as I said I wouldn't go as far as saying there are literally no puzzles, albeit the wafer one is probably the only really serious multi object puzzle in the game, most others revolve around mazes and hidden objects, but compared to the amount of shooty shooty there certainly isn't much, hence the fps classification over on audiogames.net. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
When I play, I come up with totally ridiculous, unrealistic names. That way my characters sound like a particularly stupid comic book villain, lol. On 5/1/2015 12:31 PM, Bryan Peterson wrote: LOL. I like to give my character my own name and age, although there is a particular ex-girlfriend's name I'll also occasionally use for whom I have a particularly intense dislike. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: Josh K Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:15 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations I play psycho strike and laugh at it just knocking down prison doors something i could never do in reality is to me funny and fun. And its fun to name characters after people in real life that I do not get along with that well at the moment or just to hear their names in the game saying that they are or were a gang leader. To me its funny and fun. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 4:04 AM, shaun everiss wrote: Aggreed chareles I have a friend that plays such games on his headset but yeah once you are mature yeah. My issue with some games is if they emulate life to closely. I use games as an escape doing something I wouldn't do in real life. I guess if I was in a gang already playing this game then it would be a problem or if I was thinking about doing this sort of thing in real life it would be an issue. But since I am not a starship pilot or gang member or anything in all the games I play then its all ok. Not to say there are games I don't play because its a bit to close to reality. survive the wild is one of those, while I am not lost in the wild my life while not that bad does have sertain elements off that game in it and its to close to home really. Psychostrike is really good but I agree I won't be playing this in short bursts. At 03:59 p.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: If I had sons, they would have to play GTA elsewhere, if even there. Part of parenting is making sure that your kids play appropriate games, watch appropriate TV, and such. Also, I would make sure that they know that games are in no way reality. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations Hi Ron, Who is to say people don't take issues with their kids playing games like grand Theft Auto? Truth is I am one of them. Even though my son might want games like that I don't buy them for him. I tend to buy age appropriate games, and those I feel do not compromise my moral inclinations. I always find out what the game is about before buying it, and also check what age it was designed for etc. While I know some parentsjust don't care I'm not one of them. On 4/29/15, Ron hopkins ard...@samobile.net wrote: Hello. This is Ron. So I'm reading through these mails. Well, I'd like to know, how come people don't take issues with 10 year old kids playing games like grand theft auto, a game that has very graphic violents from what I've been told, where you have sex with women and then kill them by running them over, among other things. I think we need more games like this for the blind, What happened to society putting limits on what there kids watch and play. I personally love the sounds. We all know what is depicted in this game is very wrong, but after its basically roll playing. How many muds and other text games do people play where your a rogue and steal? Thats wrong too. Just an observation. I hope to be buying this game soon. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts
Hi all, I just wanted to chime in with a quick word regarding the warning on the website. We feel that the warning is clear, easy to understand and prominent enough to not be missed. It is in the original post on both this list and the audiogames.net forum, and on the website before you download the game. We feel that having you click a button to agree that you are 16 or older would not really serve any useful purpose since the warning is there in black and white so to speak. In short, we have done all that we can reasonably be expected to do to make people aware of the nature of the content in the game, and anything beyond that is up to the individual. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall On 5/1/2015 10:07 PM, dark wrote: @Desiry, in fairness to Jeremy his objection to the game is based on it's actual content and the motivation of it's characters, not just it's depictions of violence. Jim kitchin's games are all clearly marked as adult, indeed they're in a separate part of his site from his other games and on audiogames.net they're listed as Adult xxx with clear warnings in the description, and yet actually we have still had a couple of complaints (though I have a sneaking suspicion those were from people who downloaded the games without reading what they were before hand). As a side scroller, even as a side scroller with weapons and action,Psychostrike is rather more innocuous, sinse the area under scrutiny is the senselessness of the slaughterings and crimes involved, not intrinsically their depiction. I'm not going to get into the debate again about this, but in fairness I can see why perhaps a more prominant warning on site might be useful, perhaps one contained in some of the links, eg list the game as psycho strike game with extreme violence or have a confirmation message box with the warning text somewhere rather than listing the game next to other innocuous titles like paladin of the sky and adventure at C:. Once the warning is displayed however, what people do is their affair. Heck, I suffer genophobia and could not play one of jim Kitchin's adult games without extreme discomfort, but thanks to the warnings I have never had to, either deliberately or by accident, which is really all you can say. All the best, Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts I'm trying to remember which game it is that I've played that makes you agree that you're over 18 each time you play it. That's going to bother me now. It's an audio game, I believe, and while I think that's overkill, maybe a similar thing could be put in place in this game as well. I also have to ask this, why didn't anyone ever complain about the content in some of Jim Kitchen's sexually explicit games? Those games are free, are very small downloads, and are actually very easy to hide, because they're buried in a mess of other games inside a rather disorganized directory structure. No offense intended by saying that, I'm just stating a fact. But I apologize for being blunt. Anyway, I would argue that children have probably downloaded these games, too, but I've never heard a peep about it. Same with Slender, the Lost Vision. This game, if memory serves, was released shortly after the incident which Dark referenced in a previous message in which a girl was nearly killed because her friends thought they were going to please Slenderman. Again, this game is free, relatively small, and easy to access. So why is Psycho Strike getting a bad rap when other questionable content has been released in the past? Maybe I just didn't hear about similar objections that were raised? On 5/1/2015 11:54 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Paul, You raise some valid points. If a child is old enough to be unsupervised on the internet then they are probably old enough to decide for themselves weather or not to download a certain game or view certain content. In such a case the best a site owner or game developer can do is make appropriate warnings as to the content being viewed. For example, most pornography sites have a page that pops up every time the site is accessed letting the user know that the site contains sexually explicit content and the person entering must be at least 18. If they click the I agree button and enter the site knowing what content is about to be viewed the legal responsibility becomes that of the person doing the browsing not the site owner or owners. With games there is usually a similar warning in place. In adult interactive fiction, for example, it always comes up with a disclaimer that prompts the user to
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts
Hi Dark, Fair enough. I had actually forgotten that the adult games were on a separate part of Jim Kitchen's site. It wasn't always that way, and, since I don't personally have an interest in those types of games, I really didn't realize they had been moved. So I'll stand corrected on that point. I don't know, it just seems a bit odd to me that this is the first time I've ever seen a debate over whether an audio game should have been released or not due to its content. Perhaps there were others, but I wasn't paying attention, or wasn't on the email list or the forum to see them play out. On 5/1/2015 4:07 PM, dark wrote: @Desiry, in fairness to Jeremy his objection to the game is based on it's actual content and the motivation of it's characters, not just it's depictions of violence. Jim kitchin's games are all clearly marked as adult, indeed they're in a separate part of his site from his other games and on audiogames.net they're listed as Adult xxx with clear warnings in the description, and yet actually we have still had a couple of complaints (though I have a sneaking suspicion those were from people who downloaded the games without reading what they were before hand). As a side scroller, even as a side scroller with weapons and action,Psychostrike is rather more innocuous, sinse the area under scrutiny is the senselessness of the slaughterings and crimes involved, not intrinsically their depiction. I'm not going to get into the debate again about this, but in fairness I can see why perhaps a more prominant warning on site might be useful, perhaps one contained in some of the links, eg list the game as psycho strike game with extreme violence or have a confirmation message box with the warning text somewhere rather than listing the game next to other innocuous titles like paladin of the sky and adventure at C:. Once the warning is displayed however, what people do is their affair. Heck, I suffer genophobia and could not play one of jim Kitchin's adult games without extreme discomfort, but thanks to the warnings I have never had to, either deliberately or by accident, which is really all you can say. All the best, Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts I'm trying to remember which game it is that I've played that makes you agree that you're over 18 each time you play it. That's going to bother me now. It's an audio game, I believe, and while I think that's overkill, maybe a similar thing could be put in place in this game as well. I also have to ask this, why didn't anyone ever complain about the content in some of Jim Kitchen's sexually explicit games? Those games are free, are very small downloads, and are actually very easy to hide, because they're buried in a mess of other games inside a rather disorganized directory structure. No offense intended by saying that, I'm just stating a fact. But I apologize for being blunt. Anyway, I would argue that children have probably downloaded these games, too, but I've never heard a peep about it. Same with Slender, the Lost Vision. This game, if memory serves, was released shortly after the incident which Dark referenced in a previous message in which a girl was nearly killed because her friends thought they were going to please Slenderman. Again, this game is free, relatively small, and easy to access. So why is Psycho Strike getting a bad rap when other questionable content has been released in the past? Maybe I just didn't hear about similar objections that were raised? On 5/1/2015 11:54 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Paul, You raise some valid points. If a child is old enough to be unsupervised on the internet then they are probably old enough to decide for themselves weather or not to download a certain game or view certain content. In such a case the best a site owner or game developer can do is make appropriate warnings as to the content being viewed. For example, most pornography sites have a page that pops up every time the site is accessed letting the user know that the site contains sexually explicit content and the person entering must be at least 18. If they click the I agree button and enter the site knowing what content is about to be viewed the legal responsibility becomes that of the person doing the browsing not the site owner or owners. With games there is usually a similar warning in place. In adult interactive fiction, for example, it always comes up with a disclaimer that prompts the user to enter yes or no if they agree to the terms. After the user types yes and agrees to the terms of service it
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts
Desiree, I think during the debate we had on list a couple of days ago Jeremy's actual point got lost in the discussion. The basic point he was getting at was there was a lot of senseless violence without any kind of justification or reason for it. When you enter the party it gives a simple statement to the effect you don't' know why but you just started killing people at a party. His point was that is no justification, no reason to, go mindlessly kill 10 people. If he plays a game he wants to know why he is doing it, and have some better justification for it. In my personal case I was objecting more to the violence itself. Like Jeremy I'd like to have some better justification or reason to kill people, even virtual people, than just because I decided to go do it for some unknown reason. I also think it is a poor game design, and should be corrected. Moreover while I was playing I just felt uncomfortable playing the game because in my mind it was wrong, I felt dirty, and uneasy about mindlessly going around killing people. I don't feel that way when fighting my way through hoards of zombies, robots, or some other non-human enemy so my objection is more about the ethical conflict I had with playing the game. As for Jim Kitchen's games they aren't mixed in with his other games. He has appropriately moved them onto a page of their own and there is no way for someone to download one of his games without knowing they are adult content. So you seem to be slightly misinformed about where they are located on his site. In any case I am unsure why they haven't generated more debate. The only thing is I figure the adult members of this list and the Audio Games Forum don't find them that objectionable. I certainly don't have any objections over them and wouldn't have any reason to complain myself. Cheers! On 5/1/15, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to remember which game it is that I've played that makes you agree that you're over 18 each time you play it. That's going to bother me now. It's an audio game, I believe, and while I think that's overkill, maybe a similar thing could be put in place in this game as well. I also have to ask this, why didn't anyone ever complain about the content in some of Jim Kitchen's sexually explicit games? Those games are free, are very small downloads, and are actually very easy to hide, because they're buried in a mess of other games inside a rather disorganized directory structure. No offense intended by saying that, I'm just stating a fact. But I apologize for being blunt. Anyway, I would argue that children have probably downloaded these games, too, but I've never heard a peep about it. Same with Slender, the Lost Vision. This game, if memory serves, was released shortly after the incident which Dark referenced in a previous message in which a girl was nearly killed because her friends thought they were going to please Slenderman. Again, this game is free, relatively small, and easy to access. So why is Psycho Strike getting a bad rap when other questionable content has been released in the past? Maybe I just didn't hear about similar objections that were raised? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
Hi Desiree, I do much the same thing. I try to lessen the violence by interjecting some humor into the situation by giving the characters silly comic type names like Captain Crunch. That helps make it less serious for me and creates a buffer between me and the game character. Cheers! On 5/1/15, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: When I play, I come up with totally ridiculous, unrealistic names. That way my characters sound like a particularly stupid comic book villain, lol. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts
Hi Thomas, I can respect your position about this, and I also think that most kids shouldn't be playing a game of this nature. I think what I'm objecting to is more the fact that, no matter how many hoops you make someone jump through, people are going to access it who probably shouldn't. So the whole debate is actually pretty pointless, and is serving no real purpose. I was merely stating my opinion, because I think that, even if I strongly disagree with the way Jeremy chose to bring this up on list in the first place, you both are entitled to feel the way you do about the game and its content. It's not for everyone, that's for sure. As for the justification, it makes sense that a storyline should have been included in the game, but before you start, it says, for reasons only known to you or something to that effect. Which I took to mean, fill in the blank with your own scenario. Which is exactly what I did. I'm not saying that should make others feel better if they find the content objectionable, but for me at least, I could sit here and come up with 20 different scenarios about why this character did what he or she did, each one crazier than the last. It's part of what I enjoy about the game, to be honest. As I said to Dark in a previous message, I realized my error about the adult games on Jim Kitchen's website. It had just been a long time since I'd looked at the site, and I didn't know they had been moved. So I apologize. On 5/1/2015 5:23 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Desiree, I think during the debate we had on list a couple of days ago Jeremy's actual point got lost in the discussion. The basic point he was getting at was there was a lot of senseless violence without any kind of justification or reason for it. When you enter the party it gives a simple statement to the effect you don't' know why but you just started killing people at a party. His point was that is no justification, no reason to, go mindlessly kill 10 people. If he plays a game he wants to know why he is doing it, and have some better justification for it. In my personal case I was objecting more to the violence itself. Like Jeremy I'd like to have some better justification or reason to kill people, even virtual people, than just because I decided to go do it for some unknown reason. I also think it is a poor game design, and should be corrected. Moreover while I was playing I just felt uncomfortable playing the game because in my mind it was wrong, I felt dirty, and uneasy about mindlessly going around killing people. I don't feel that way when fighting my way through hoards of zombies, robots, or some other non-human enemy so my objection is more about the ethical conflict I had with playing the game. As for Jim Kitchen's games they aren't mixed in with his other games. He has appropriately moved them onto a page of their own and there is no way for someone to download one of his games without knowing they are adult content. So you seem to be slightly misinformed about where they are located on his site. In any case I am unsure why they haven't generated more debate. The only thing is I figure the adult members of this list and the Audio Games Forum don't find them that objectionable. I certainly don't have any objections over them and wouldn't have any reason to complain myself. Cheers! On 5/1/15, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to remember which game it is that I've played that makes you agree that you're over 18 each time you play it. That's going to bother me now. It's an audio game, I believe, and while I think that's overkill, maybe a similar thing could be put in place in this game as well. I also have to ask this, why didn't anyone ever complain about the content in some of Jim Kitchen's sexually explicit games? Those games are free, are very small downloads, and are actually very easy to hide, because they're buried in a mess of other games inside a rather disorganized directory structure. No offense intended by saying that, I'm just stating a fact. But I apologize for being blunt. Anyway, I would argue that children have probably downloaded these games, too, but I've never heard a peep about it. Same with Slender, the Lost Vision. This game, if memory serves, was released shortly after the incident which Dark referenced in a previous message in which a girl was nearly killed because her friends thought they were going to please Slenderman. Again, this game is free, relatively small, and easy to access. So why is Psycho Strike getting a bad rap when other questionable content has been released in the past? Maybe I just didn't hear about similar objections that were raised? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and
