[Audyssey] problems with alteraeon server?

[Keith S]

Hi, just tried to log into the alteraeon game at around midnight between fri 
and sat and could not secure a connection.

is the server down for maintanence?

Keith
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Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon Kinzhay quest

[Keith S]

I think you need to head to gads and head north to the 4 way stop just before 
the mage school trainer and then head east 2 times and then north I believe.  
there is a shop keeper that you talk to and I believe he gives you the tracer 
crystals.  then you head back to the fire world, give the tracer to the gate 
keeper and he takes one and you get the other.  then you have to hike back to 
the village on the fire world and give the crystal you still have to the black 
robed mage in the north most  hut and you have completed the quest, unless the 
admins have altered the quest since I last did it.

Keith
Moradin, fell, fetch, grummosh

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  From: dark 
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  Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 11:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon Kinzhay quest


  Yepas I thought  something is wrong with this quest.
  I paid the 250 gold to the gate keeper to get the supposedly replacement 
  tracer crystal, went back to the village and was told "you've either already 
  completed this quest or are trying to do it in the wrong order" when I tried 
  to give it to the blackmage.

  I think there's a problem in that quest somewhere since I have no idea who 
  to talk to for the next step.

  All the best,

  Dark. 


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Re: [Audyssey] need some cheat codes for tdv

[Keith S]

what is TDV?
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  From: john 
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  Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 7:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] need some cheat codes for tdv


  Insofar as I know, they don't exist.

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  Subject: [Audyssey] need some cheat codes for tdv

  Hi guys. Any body knows any cheat codes for tdv?


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Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon interesting discovery

[Keith S]

you need one of the skeleton keys to open the locked door inside the dragon.  
the necros carry the skeleton keys

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jude DaShiell 
  To: gamers@audyssey.org 
  Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 11:53 AM
  Subject: [Audyssey] alteraeon interesting discovery


  I was in the stone dragon earlier today and killed several ochre jellies. 
  Searching corpses got me a silver shield on the first corpse and shabby 
  mail on the third corpse.  The second corpse offered up a strange rod I 
  couldn't take because I couldn't carry it at the time.  My guess is that 
  was a key to the coffin east of the ampitheater which is why I couldn't 
  open that up.  Morticia still lives this time.  I may have gone through 
  that coffin or into it with a past character when that character killed 
  her but can't remember now.  That character probably had good lockpicking 
  skills.
  The interesting thing about all of this is that that's the only quest in 
  alteraeon I've found to date that has different kinds of objects on the 
  same kind of monster.  Thanks for doing that, it makes the game more 
  interesting.



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[Audyssey] alteraeon serch switch question

[Keith S]

Is there a switch that I can type to find one handed weapons in a container or 
dontaion room in alter aeon?

Have asked on game, no one has replied

Keith
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Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon hit points and damage too low for effective melee combat

[Keith S]

hp is effected by constitution and you can find equipment that boosts hp
warriors and thieves and then clerics get more hp per level up than that 
casters, though druids and necros get more than mages

max damage  is effected by strength and equipment with dam roll bonuses


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jude DaShiell 
  To: gamers@audyssey.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 12:25 PM
  Subject: [Audyssey] alteraeon hit points and damage too low for effective 
melee combat


  That well may be, but from that description it is not clear what stats can 
  be trained to fix the problems.
  Constitution is some kind of base for it I think but that's all I've been 
  able to figure out so far.
  I'm trying to be careful with how I manage practicesand was less careful 
  in the past which probably made it wise to reset a character a couple 
  times.



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Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell

[Keith S]

but you are not a builder or admin on the game, so if you are going to sit back 
and criticize the game admins, then you might as well ring your hands and play 
the game as is.  sure, opinions are nice and all, but come on.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Justin Jones 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 4:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell


  You know, you really oughtn't to make assumptions as to what I have,
  or have not, done. Based on that last post, you are operating under
  the assumption that I have not made any attempt at communicating Alter
  Aeon's issues to Dentin. Guess what, I have, on numerous occasions. Do
  you know what happened? Do you know what I was told? To put it
  politely, I was told where to get off, and in most instances, in very
  direct language. That was if they were feeling polite, in many other
  instances, I was called a troll and much worse. So I think you need to
  get off your high horse and stop making assumptions.

  As for my years of experience as a gamer, it is what makes me right. I
  have seen multiple game systems and see what works (and sometimes,
  what does not). There is a reason things are done a certain way and
  not simply because it has always been done in that manner.

  As an aside, I had a look at the latest edition of the Dungeons and
  Dragons rules and at the Knock spell. Guess what? it works as it has
  ever done.

  On 1/11/17, Keith S <ks.steinbac...@gmail.com> wrote:
  > then type the word idea and then make the statement regarding the knock
  > spell.
  >
  > As for you having so much experience as a gamer, perhaps you could become a
  > builder and make changes to the game yourself.  I played toril and
  > cyberassault and they both had their issues and I didn't put my nose in the
  > air and tout my 29 years of gaming experience in the pen and paper RPG
  > world.
  >
  > Keith
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Justin Jones
  >   To: Gamers Discussion list
  >   Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:13 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell
  >
  >
  >   Or maybe you ought to stop defending poor design and balance choices,
  >   especially because you know it is precisely that.
  >
  >   In the meantime, I have no intention of quitting Alter Aeon. I look on
  >   my role as an educator, a person who, with my over thirty-years of
  >   gaming experience, can point out the flaws in the game. Not because I
  >   wish to troll or grief, but because I am hoping that if enough of us
  >   are heard, that Dentin and the rest will stop listening to the tiny
  >   clique of sicophants they surround themselves with and actually turn a
  >   good game (Alter Aeon's current state) into a great game.
  >
  >   On 1/11/17, Keith S <ks.steinbac...@gmail.com> wrote:
  >   > then stop playing alteraeon if you don't have faith in the admins and
  >   > builders
  >   >   - Original Message -
  >   >   From: Justin Jones
  >   >   To: Gamers Discussion list
  >   >   Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:54 AM
  >   >   Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   I do not have confidence in Dentin and the rest, vis-à-vis development
  >   >   and balance. They have proven, time and time again that they have no
  >   >   clue what they are doing.
  >   >
  >   >   For instance: the leatherworking skill. Great idea in concept; create
  >   >   items and carve on them, perhaps for personal use or for sale to other
  >   >   players. There is only one serious difficulty: the items in question
  >   >   bind to your character. If you check the help file (and I just did to
  >   >   verify this) there is no indication that when you use leatherworking
  >   >   that the item will bind to that character. Had I known this from the
  >   >   start, I would not have wasted the pracs on the skinning and
  >   >   leatherworking skills.
  >   >
  >   >   Also, arguing that no one would take pick locks if Knock worked as it
  >   >   ought is faulty logic.
  >   >
  >   >   On 1/11/17, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
  >   >   > Well from what I've seen thus far, knock and picklock are about the
  > same
  >   > in
  >   >   >
  >   >   > terms of the doors they can open, it's just the mechanics that are
  >   >   > different, or to put it another way, I've never encountered a door
  > that
  >   > can
  >   >   >
  >   >   > be picked but can't be knock spelled or visa versa, though there are
  >   >   > certainly doors that are imune to both and need a key.
  >   >   >
  >   >   > All the

[Audyssey] test

[Keith S]

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Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell

[Keith S]

then type the word idea and then make the statement regarding the knock spell.

As for you having so much experience as a gamer, perhaps you could become a 
builder and make changes to the game yourself.  I played toril and cyberassault 
and they both had their issues and I didn't put my nose in the air and tout my 
29 years of gaming experience in the pen and paper RPG world.

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Justin Jones 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell


  Or maybe you ought to stop defending poor design and balance choices,
  especially because you know it is precisely that.

  In the meantime, I have no intention of quitting Alter Aeon. I look on
  my role as an educator, a person who, with my over thirty-years of
  gaming experience, can point out the flaws in the game. Not because I
  wish to troll or grief, but because I am hoping that if enough of us
  are heard, that Dentin and the rest will stop listening to the tiny
  clique of sicophants they surround themselves with and actually turn a
  good game (Alter Aeon's current state) into a great game.

  On 1/11/17, Keith S <ks.steinbac...@gmail.com> wrote:
  > then stop playing alteraeon if you don't have faith in the admins and
  > builders
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Justin Jones
  >   To: Gamers Discussion list
  >   Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:54 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell
  >
  >
  >   I do not have confidence in Dentin and the rest, vis-à-vis development
  >   and balance. They have proven, time and time again that they have no
  >   clue what they are doing.
  >
  >   For instance: the leatherworking skill. Great idea in concept; create
  >   items and carve on them, perhaps for personal use or for sale to other
  >   players. There is only one serious difficulty: the items in question
  >   bind to your character. If you check the help file (and I just did to
  >   verify this) there is no indication that when you use leatherworking
  >   that the item will bind to that character. Had I known this from the
  >   start, I would not have wasted the pracs on the skinning and
  >   leatherworking skills.
  >
  >   Also, arguing that no one would take pick locks if Knock worked as it
  >   ought is faulty logic.
  >
  >   On 1/11/17, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
  >   > Well from what I've seen thus far, knock and picklock are about the same
  > in
  >   >
  >   > terms of the doors they can open, it's just the mechanics that are
  >   > different, or to put it another way, I've never encountered a door that
  > can
  >   >
  >   > be picked but can't be knock spelled or visa versa, though there are
  >   > certainly doors that are imune to both and need a key.
  >   >
  >   > All the best,
  >   >
  >   > DArk.
  >   >
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Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell

[Keith S]

then stop playing alteraeon if you don't have faith in the admins and builders
  - Original Message - 
  From: Justin Jones 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell


  I do not have confidence in Dentin and the rest, vis-à-vis development
  and balance. They have proven, time and time again that they have no
  clue what they are doing.

  For instance: the leatherworking skill. Great idea in concept; create
  items and carve on them, perhaps for personal use or for sale to other
  players. There is only one serious difficulty: the items in question
  bind to your character. If you check the help file (and I just did to
  verify this) there is no indication that when you use leatherworking
  that the item will bind to that character. Had I known this from the
  start, I would not have wasted the pracs on the skinning and
  leatherworking skills.

  Also, arguing that no one would take pick locks if Knock worked as it
  ought is faulty logic.

  On 1/11/17, dark  wrote:
  > Well from what I've seen thus far, knock and picklock are about the same in
  >
  > terms of the doors they can open, it's just the mechanics that are
  > different, or to put it another way, I've never encountered a door that can
  >
  > be picked but can't be knock spelled or visa versa, though there are
  > certainly doors that are imune to both and need a key.
  >
  > All the best,
  >
  > DArk.
  >
  >
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Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell

[Keith S]

yes, but on a philosophical point, the admins of alter aeon make the rules.  I 
have not had much issue with the knock spell on the chars with it.

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Justin Jones 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell


  So you are aware that Knock, in Alter Aeon, does not work the way it
  is supposed to.

  On 1/10/17, Keith S <ks.steinbac...@gmail.com> wrote:
  > online, 3...paper and pencil 5 or 6
  >
  > Keith
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Justin Jones
  >   To: Gamers Discussion list
  >   Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:08 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell
  >
  >
  >   Bash door would be okay, actually, but not as a skill. It ought to be
  >   something that anyone can do, it is strength-based and can only be
  >   done to certain doors.
  >
  >   Also, I am fine with doors that specifically require a key to open.
  >   Not every door ought to be pickable/knockable (it's a word now,
  >   so...), but the majority of them ought to be (and, from what I can
  >   tell, they are).
  >
  >   I don't mean to be condescending with this question, Kieth, but how
  >   many other role-playing games have you played?
  >
  >   On 1/10/17, Keith S <ks.steinbac...@gmail.com> wrote:
  >   > at this rate, they might as well have a warrior skill like chop door or
  > bash
  >   > door.
  >   >
  >   > Keith
  >   >   - Original Message -
  >   >   From: Justin Jones
  >   >   To: Gamers Discussion list
  >   >   Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:10 AM
  >   >   Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   Pretty much this. Every other role-playing game I have ever played
  >   >   (and I have played a lot of them) has the knock spell a guaranteed
  >   >   success when used. I understand the need for balance, but there are
  >   >   far better ways to accomplish this than the current one in use.
  >   >
  >   >   The only way I would pick up Knock is if my primary was a Mage and I
  >   >   had a lot of Mage cast gear on. Even then, I am not certain if it is
  >   >   worth the pracs when I could simply take levels in Thief and the pick
  >   >   locks skill.
  >   >
  >   >   On 1/10/17, Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com> wrote:
  >   >   > Why not just have knock blow the hinge pins out of the door?
  >   >   >
  >   >   > On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, dark wrote:
  >   >   >
  >   >   >> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:26:00
  >   >   >> From: dark <d...@xgam.org>
  >   >   >> Reply-To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org>
  >   >   >> To: Gamers@audyssey.org
  >   >   >> Subject: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell
  >   >   >>
  >   >   >> Hi.
  >   >   >>
  >   >   >> I've been trying to do the drow city close to fort Magnitia, and
  > ran
  >   >   >> across a door that was locked.
  >   >   >> I tried the knock spell a bunch of times, and despite havig 25 int
  > and
  >   > 18
  >   >   >> dex couldn't get through at all. I've neglected learning lock
  > picking
  >   >   >> since as a druid mage I really should be using magic rather than
  > dex,
  >   >   >> however it seems that KNock pretty much is just lock picking with
  > a
  >   > mana
  >   >   >> cost, which makes it a bit pointless, and also a problem if you
  > don't
  >   > have
  >   >   >> high dex, indeed I got killed because I ran out of mana on the
  > bloody
  >   > door
  >   >   >> (that and I didn't have a livoak at the time).
  >   >   >>
  >   >   >> I was therefore wondering if the knock spell could be made a bit
  > more
  >   >   >> effective as an alternative tto lock picking given that it costs
  > mana
  >   > to
  >   >   >> use. Indeed what might be fun is if the knock spell, instead of
  > simply
  >   >   >> replicating the lock picking skill with a spell opened the door in
  > a
  >   >   >> different way, for example with the first casting having the mage
  >   >   >> concentrate and grasp the tumblers in the lock one by one before
  >   > turning
  >   >   >> them, meaning knock would always work, but at an increased mana
  > cost.
  >   >   >>
  >   >   >> Heck necromancers could have a versio where they create a literal
  >   > skeleton
  >   >   >> key out of harveste

Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell

[Keith S]

online, 3...paper and pencil 5 or 6

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Justin Jones 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:08 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell


  Bash door would be okay, actually, but not as a skill. It ought to be
  something that anyone can do, it is strength-based and can only be
  done to certain doors.

  Also, I am fine with doors that specifically require a key to open.
  Not every door ought to be pickable/knockable (it's a word now,
  so...), but the majority of them ought to be (and, from what I can
  tell, they are).

  I don't mean to be condescending with this question, Kieth, but how
  many other role-playing games have you played?

  On 1/10/17, Keith S <ks.steinbac...@gmail.com> wrote:
  > at this rate, they might as well have a warrior skill like chop door or bash
  > door.
  >
  > Keith
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Justin Jones
  >   To: Gamers Discussion list
  >   Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:10 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell
  >
  >
  >   Pretty much this. Every other role-playing game I have ever played
  >   (and I have played a lot of them) has the knock spell a guaranteed
  >   success when used. I understand the need for balance, but there are
  >   far better ways to accomplish this than the current one in use.
  >
  >   The only way I would pick up Knock is if my primary was a Mage and I
  >   had a lot of Mage cast gear on. Even then, I am not certain if it is
  >   worth the pracs when I could simply take levels in Thief and the pick
  >   locks skill.
  >
  >   On 1/10/17, Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com> wrote:
  >   > Why not just have knock blow the hinge pins out of the door?
  >   >
  >   > On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, dark wrote:
  >   >
  >   >> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:26:00
  >   >> From: dark <d...@xgam.org>
  >   >> Reply-To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org>
  >   >> To: Gamers@audyssey.org
  >   >> Subject: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell
  >   >>
  >   >> Hi.
  >   >>
  >   >> I've been trying to do the drow city close to fort Magnitia, and ran
  >   >> across a door that was locked.
  >   >> I tried the knock spell a bunch of times, and despite havig 25 int and
  > 18
  >   >> dex couldn't get through at all. I've neglected learning lock picking
  >   >> since as a druid mage I really should be using magic rather than dex,
  >   >> however it seems that KNock pretty much is just lock picking with a
  > mana
  >   >> cost, which makes it a bit pointless, and also a problem if you don't
  > have
  >   >> high dex, indeed I got killed because I ran out of mana on the bloody
  > door
  >   >> (that and I didn't have a livoak at the time).
  >   >>
  >   >> I was therefore wondering if the knock spell could be made a bit more
  >   >> effective as an alternative tto lock picking given that it costs mana
  > to
  >   >> use. Indeed what might be fun is if the knock spell, instead of simply
  >   >> replicating the lock picking skill with a spell opened the door in a
  >   >> different way, for example with the first casting having the mage
  >   >> concentrate and grasp the tumblers in the lock one by one before
  > turning
  >   >> them, meaning knock would always work, but at an increased mana cost.
  >   >>
  >   >> Heck necromancers could have a versio where they create a literal
  > skeleton
  >   >> key out of harvested bones, which could be more efficient on mana than
  > the
  >   >> mage version, but require teeth.
  >   >>
  >   >> I know the game often has several ways of doing the same thing, for
  >   >> example the spells candle, crystal light and continual light, but it'd
  > be
  >   >> really useful if in this case the spell did a little more than just
  >   >> replicate  lock pick and so could be a bit more useful to none
  > thieves.
  >   >>
  >   >> All the best,
  >   >>
  >   >> Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell

[Keith S]

at this rate, they might as well have a warrior skill like chop door or bash 
door.

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Justin Jones 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell


  Pretty much this. Every other role-playing game I have ever played
  (and I have played a lot of them) has the knock spell a guaranteed
  success when used. I understand the need for balance, but there are
  far better ways to accomplish this than the current one in use.

  The only way I would pick up Knock is if my primary was a Mage and I
  had a lot of Mage cast gear on. Even then, I am not certain if it is
  worth the pracs when I could simply take levels in Thief and the pick
  locks skill.

  On 1/10/17, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
  > Why not just have knock blow the hinge pins out of the door?
  >
  > On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, dark wrote:
  >
  >> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:26:00
  >> From: dark 
  >> Reply-To: Gamers Discussion list 
  >> To: Gamers@audyssey.org
  >> Subject: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell
  >>
  >> Hi.
  >>
  >> I've been trying to do the drow city close to fort Magnitia, and ran
  >> across a door that was locked.
  >> I tried the knock spell a bunch of times, and despite havig 25 int and 18
  >> dex couldn't get through at all. I've neglected learning lock picking
  >> since as a druid mage I really should be using magic rather than dex,
  >> however it seems that KNock pretty much is just lock picking with a mana
  >> cost, which makes it a bit pointless, and also a problem if you don't have
  >> high dex, indeed I got killed because I ran out of mana on the bloody door
  >> (that and I didn't have a livoak at the time).
  >>
  >> I was therefore wondering if the knock spell could be made a bit more
  >> effective as an alternative tto lock picking given that it costs mana to
  >> use. Indeed what might be fun is if the knock spell, instead of simply
  >> replicating the lock picking skill with a spell opened the door in a
  >> different way, for example with the first casting having the mage
  >> concentrate and grasp the tumblers in the lock one by one before turning
  >> them, meaning knock would always work, but at an increased mana cost.
  >>
  >> Heck necromancers could have a versio where they create a literal skeleton
  >> key out of harvested bones, which could be more efficient on mana than the
  >> mage version, but require teeth.
  >>
  >> I know the game often has several ways of doing the same thing, for
  >> example the spells candle, crystal light and continual light, but it'd be
  >> really useful if in this case the spell did a little more than just
  >> replicate  lock pick and so could be a bit more useful to none thieves.
  >>
  >> All the best,
  >>
  >> Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell

[Keith S]

and some locks can only be opened with the knock spell and others can only be 
picked.  some can't be opened without a key
Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Justin Jones 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 9:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell


  It seems to me that picking a lock with the skill doesn't burn through
  your movement nearly as fast as the Knock spell will burn through your
  mana. Running out of movement is not great, and can be lethal, but
  running out of mana (especially in a place like the tunnels under Fort
  Magnesia) is asking to die.

  To put it differently: the knock spell is a broken mess and needs fixing.

  On 1/10/17, Keith S <ks.steinbac...@gmail.com> wrote:
  > the knock spell is an alternative to the pick lock skill, knock uses mana
  > and pick locks uses movement.
  >
  > keith
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: dark
  >   To: Gamers@audyssey.org
  >   Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:26 AM
  >   Subject: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell
  >
  >
  >   Hi.
  >
  >   I've been trying to do the drow city close to fort Magnitia, and ran
  > across a door that was locked.
  >   I tried the knock spell a bunch of times, and despite havig 25 int and 18
  > dex couldn't get through at all. I've neglected learning lock picking since
  > as a druid mage I really should be using magic rather than dex, however it
  > seems that KNock pretty much is just lock picking with a mana cost, which
  > makes it a bit pointless, and also a problem if you don't have high dex,
  > indeed I got killed because I ran out of mana on the bloody door (that and I
  > didn't have a livoak at the time).
  >
  >   I was therefore wondering if the knock spell could be made a bit more
  > effective as an alternative tto lock picking given that it costs mana to
  > use. Indeed what might be fun is if the knock spell, instead of simply
  > replicating the lock picking skill with a spell opened the door in a
  > different way, for example with the first casting having the mage
  > concentrate and grasp the tumblers in the lock one by one before turning
  > them, meaning knock would always work, but at an increased mana cost.
  >
  >   Heck necromancers could have a versio where they create a literal skeleton
  > key out of harvested bones, which could be more efficient on mana than the
  > mage version, but require teeth.
  >
  >   I know the game often has several ways of doing the same thing, for
  > example the spells candle, crystal light and continual light, but it'd be
  > really useful if in this case the spell did a little more than just
  > replicate  lock pick and so could be a bit more useful to none thieves.
  >
  >   All the best,
  >
  >   Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell

[Keith S]

the knock spell is an alternative to the pick lock skill, knock uses mana and 
pick locks uses movement.

keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: dark 
  To: Gamers@audyssey.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 5:26 AM
  Subject: [Audyssey] Alteraeon knock spell


  Hi. 

  I've been trying to do the drow city close to fort Magnitia, and ran across a 
door that was locked. 
  I tried the knock spell a bunch of times, and despite havig 25 int and 18 dex 
couldn't get through at all. I've neglected learning lock picking since as a 
druid mage I really should be using magic rather than dex, however it seems 
that KNock pretty much is just lock picking with a mana cost, which makes it a 
bit pointless, and also a problem if you don't have high dex, indeed I got 
killed because I ran out of mana on the bloody door (that and I didn't have a 
livoak at the time).

  I was therefore wondering if the knock spell could be made a bit more 
effective as an alternative tto lock picking given that it costs mana to use. 
Indeed what might be fun is if the knock spell, instead of simply replicating 
the lock picking skill with a spell opened the door in a different way, for 
example with the first casting having the mage concentrate and grasp the 
tumblers in the lock one by one before turning them, meaning knock would always 
work, but at an increased mana cost.

  Heck necromancers could have a versio where they create a literal skeleton 
key out of harvested bones, which could be more efficient on mana than the mage 
version, but require teeth.

  I know the game often has several ways of doing the same thing, for example 
the spells candle, crystal light and continual light, but it'd be really useful 
if in this case the spell did a little more than just replicate  lock pick and 
so could be a bit more useful to none thieves. 

  All the best, 

  Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest

[Keith S]

sometimes it doesn't load.  but typeing
get raven corpse will get it when it loads.

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jude DaShiell 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest


  Done, and I got gauntlets of fire protection and 88,000 experience.  I 
  defeated the archmage and got his staff and his skeleton key but 
  couldn't get his midnight black raven medallion.  I know it's a bound 
  object but typing get midnight black raven medallion didn't get it for 
  me.

  On Sat, 17 Dec 2016, Keith S wrote:

  > Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 15:49:22
  > From: Keith S <ks.steinbac...@gmail.com>
  > Reply-To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org>
  > To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org>
  > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest
  > 
  > in the bedroom on the 2nd floor on the mansion there is a piece of blank 
papyrus.  just go tot he bedroom and type
  > take all and you will grab it.  then use pen on pap
  >
  > HTH
  > Keith
  >  - Original Message -
  >  From: Jude DaShiell
  >  To: Gamers Discussion list
  >  Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 1:50 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest
  >
  >
  >  The orb is on the wall of the secret study on 2nd floor.  I didn't take
  >  the orb yet and it is magical.  The spectacles are on the table in the
  >  library on the 1st floor.  They're helpful in reading about Xenae a god
  >  that hasn't gotten into the alteraeon realm yet.  There's a candle book
  >  but I don't have the levels to memorize it yet.  So far I don't know
  >  what to write where with the pen though.
  >
  >  On Sat, 17 Dec 2016, dark wrote:
  >
  >  > Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 14:05:51
  >  > From: dark <d...@xgam.org>
  >  > Reply-To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org>
  >  > To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org>
  >  > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest
  >  >
  >  > I think the lamp is in the library with the wizard's body, I can't 
remember
  >  > where you get the monicle from, but either way it's there you need to do 
the
  >  > writing I think.
  >  >
  >  > All the best,
  >  >
  >  > DArk.
  >  > - Original Message - From: "Keith S" <ks.steinbac...@gmail.com>
  >  > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
  >  > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 4:54 PM
  >  > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >> didn't know there was a monicle and a lamp to talk to the wizard.
  >  >>
  >  >> Keith
  >  >>  - Original Message -  From: dark
  >  >>  To: Gamers Discussion list
  >  >>  Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 7:52 AM
  >  >>  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest
  >  >>
  >  >>
  >  >>  If I remember rightly it's in the library where you need to write, the
  >  >> same
  >  >>  place you can use the monicle and the lamp to get the message from the
  >  >>  wizard who lived there.
  >  >>  I don't think it's actually necessary for completing the quest, but 
it's a
  >  >>  fun extrapuzzle nonetheless.
  >  >>
  >  >>  All the best,
  >  >>
  >  >>  Dark.
  >  >>
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Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest

[Keith S]

in the bedroom on the 2nd floor on the mansion there is a piece of blank 
papyrus.  just go tot he bedroom and type
take all and you will grab it.  then use pen on pap

HTH
Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jude DaShiell 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 1:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest


  The orb is on the wall of the secret study on 2nd floor.  I didn't take 
  the orb yet and it is magical.  The spectacles are on the table in the 
  library on the 1st floor.  They're helpful in reading about Xenae a god 
  that hasn't gotten into the alteraeon realm yet.  There's a candle book 
  but I don't have the levels to memorize it yet.  So far I don't know 
  what to write where with the pen though.

  On Sat, 17 Dec 2016, dark wrote:

  > Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 14:05:51
  > From: dark <d...@xgam.org>
  > Reply-To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org>
  > To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org>
  > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest
  > 
  > I think the lamp is in the library with the wizard's body, I can't remember 
  > where you get the monicle from, but either way it's there you need to do 
the 
  > writing I think.
  >
  > All the best,
  >
  > DArk.
  > - Original Message - From: "Keith S" <ks.steinbac...@gmail.com>
  > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
  > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 4:54 PM
  > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest
  >
  >
  >> didn't know there was a monicle and a lamp to talk to the wizard.
  >> 
  >> Keith
  >>  - Original Message -  From: dark
  >>  To: Gamers Discussion list
  >>  Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 7:52 AM
  >>  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest
  >> 
  >>
  >>  If I remember rightly it's in the library where you need to write, the 
  >> same
  >>  place you can use the monicle and the lamp to get the message from the
  >>  wizard who lived there.
  >>  I don't think it's actually necessary for completing the quest, but it's a
  >>  fun extrapuzzle nonetheless.
  >>
  >>  All the best,
  >>
  >>  Dark.
  >> 
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Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest

[Keith S]

yes, you use pen on papyrus and then touch the paper to one of the orbs.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: dark 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 1:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest


  I think the lamp is in the library with the wizard's body, I can't remember 
  where you get the monicle from, but either way it's there you need to do the 
  writing I think.

  All the best,

  DArk.
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Keith S" <ks.steinbac...@gmail.com>
  To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
  Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 4:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest


  > didn't know there was a monicle and a lamp to talk to the wizard.
  >
  > Keith
  >  - Original Message - 
  >  From: dark
  >  To: Gamers Discussion list
  >  Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 7:52 AM
  >  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest
  >
  >
  >  If I remember rightly it's in the library where you need to write, the 
  > same
  >  place you can use the monicle and the lamp to get the message from the
  >  wizard who lived there.
  >  I don't think it's actually necessary for completing the quest, but it's 
  > a
  >  fun extrapuzzle nonetheless.
  >
  >  All the best,
  >
  >  Dark.
  >
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Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest

[Keith S]

didn't know there was a monicle and a lamp to talk to the wizard.

Keith
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  Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 7:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alteraeon gravekeeper's quest


  If I remember rightly it's in the library where you need to write, the same 
  place you can use the monicle and the lamp to get the message from the 
  wizard who lived there.
  I don't think it's actually necessary for completing the quest, but it's a 
  fun extrapuzzle nonetheless.

  All the best,

  Dark. 


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Re: [Audyssey] alter-aeon gravekeeper's quest

[Keith S]

this is actually used to get an item in the building you found the blank 
papyrus and the lucky coin in 

Keith
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  From: Jude DaShiell 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alter-aeon gravekeeper's quest


  Thanks, I got that done.  My guess is this will be useful for writing 
  scrolls.

  On Fri, 16 Dec 2016, Keith S wrote:

  > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 01:56:51
  > From: Keith S <ks.steinbac...@gmail.com>
  > Reply-To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org>
  > To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org>
  > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alter-aeon gravekeeper's quest
  > 
  > for the pen, type use unicorn pen.
  >
  > it will fill the pen with the unicorn blood and then you need the blank 
papyrus from the building you found the 2 wights and the necromancer on the 1st 
level.
  >
  > Keith
  >  - Original Message -
  >  From: Jude DaShiell
  >  To: gamers@audyssey.org
  >  Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:50 PM
  >  Subject: [Audyssey] alter-aeon gravekeeper's quest
  >
  >
  >  A very interesting quest!  I got into the small graveyard down on level 4
  >  of mendeliuses cave and found out I needed to have killed the archmage and
  >  taken his key to get the door open since I can't pick the lock and the
  >  keyhole is shaped like a skull.  I have to either group with other players
  >  and take him on that way or have to build up stats enough to do the job
  >  myself, not there  yet.
  >  I've gone up through the recommended levels ladder and am working on first
  >  level for necromancer 1.9 million experience for that level and think I
  >  have about 14,000 of those points.  All of that is as it is.  Something I
  >  found has me puzzled though.  I got a pen from the silver palace as in
  >  fountain pen and from the biomancer's lab I got a phial of unicorn blood
  >  which is supposed to be useful for a variety of things.  I don't know how
  >  to fill the pen.  I tried use phial pen and that had no effect.  I also
  >  don't know what if any context unicorn blood has for use in this
  >  particular quest.   I got past the secret room with the censer and found a
  >  dark coin in that room  which is to pay for a ferry ride later in the
  >  quest.  I didn't find the coin after burning the incense in the censer and
  >  the appearance of the demon but did find it by searching the room before I
  >  used the bag on the censer.  I think the incense once burned makes the
  >  coin disappear.  The dark priestess was another character I only managed
  >  to kill using a demonic potion my character isn't built up enough to do it
  >  by means of magic or fighting skills yet either.
  >
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Re: [Audyssey] alter-aeon gravekeeper's quest

[Keith S]

for the pen, type use unicorn pen.

it will fill the pen with the unicorn blood and then you need the blank papyrus 
from the building you found the 2 wights and the necromancer on the 1st level.

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jude DaShiell 
  To: gamers@audyssey.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:50 PM
  Subject: [Audyssey] alter-aeon gravekeeper's quest


  A very interesting quest!  I got into the small graveyard down on level 4 
  of mendeliuses cave and found out I needed to have killed the archmage and 
  taken his key to get the door open since I can't pick the lock and the 
  keyhole is shaped like a skull.  I have to either group with other players 
  and take him on that way or have to build up stats enough to do the job 
  myself, not there  yet.
  I've gone up through the recommended levels ladder and am working on first 
  level for necromancer 1.9 million experience for that level and think I 
  have about 14,000 of those points.  All of that is as it is.  Something I 
  found has me puzzled though.  I got a pen from the silver palace as in 
  fountain pen and from the biomancer's lab I got a phial of unicorn blood 
  which is supposed to be useful for a variety of things.  I don't know how 
  to fill the pen.  I tried use phial pen and that had no effect.  I also 
  don't know what if any context unicorn blood has for use in this 
  particular quest.   I got past the secret room with the censer and found a 
  dark coin in that room  which is to pay for a ferry ride later in the 
  quest.  I didn't find the coin after burning the incense in the censer and 
  the appearance of the demon but did find it by searching the room before I 
  used the bag on the censer.  I think the incense once burned makes the 
  coin disappear.  The dark priestess was another character I only managed 
  to kill using a demonic potion my character isn't built up enough to do it 
  by means of magic or fighting skills yet either.



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Re: [Audyssey] Help with Smugglers' Cove in Alter Aeon?

[Keith S]

tinus is on the left side of the cove, in a shop either north or north west of 
a shop you can reach directly west.  been a while since I have been to the cove.

HTH

Keith
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:37 PM
  Subject: [Audyssey] Help with Smugglers' Cove in Alter Aeon?


  I'm working on the quests in Smugglers' Cove and I need help. I have to talk 
to Tinus in the Golden Phoenix pawn shop. But I can't for the life of me figure 
out where that. Any help would be appreciated. I've explored the cove from end 
to end.

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Re: [Audyssey] bandera azul quest

[Keith S]

you just have to follow the sewers until you find a pit fiend sleeping.  It's 
pretty much a straight shot, no Y shaped passages or up and down.  

Keith
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  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bandera azul quest


  I can locate the sewers but not the pit fiend.

  -Original Message- 
  From: Jeremy Brown
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:13 AM
  To: gamers
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bandera azul quest

  Bryan,

  There's several down exits in the village.  You need to find a manhole
  in the streets and enter it to locate the pit fiend.  Take care,

  Jeremy



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Re: [Audyssey] Help with a quest in ALter Aeon.

[Keith S]

if you kill lora who is standing outside the locked door below the church of 
shift, she has a wand of knocking.

Keith
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  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with a quest in ALter Aeon.


  Hmmm, there don't appear to be that many options of where to go. But then 
  againt he only entrance I have access to is that manhole since I'm not yet 
  high level enough to learn either Knock or the Pick Locks skill. But ve 
  shall see...

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  From: dark
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:31 AM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with a quest in ALter Aeon.

  Hi Bryan.
  the cell is an alternative way into the sewers from the basement of the
  chapel. As I recall, there is a choice of paths in the sewer pipe, north and
  west I believe. The lesser pit fiend is up the other path in the actual room
  called "sewers of bandora azul"



  Hth.

  All the best,

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Re: [Audyssey] Help with a quest in ALter Aeon.

[Keith S]

Yes, you just need to knock the door where lora is standing and kill the 
prisoner and then you have to deal with some demi-cats or kitttens.  then just 
follow the direction you did not enter from and you will find the pit fiend 
sleeping.  depending on your level and class, it is simple to kill.  Of course, 
I was level 24 druid and hit it once with a fist of earth and it died.

Keith
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with a quest in ALter Aeon.


  Hmmm.

  Bryan as I recalll the pitfiend is in the area called "the sewers" if you 
  follow the passage to the end. It's called "A lesser pitfiend" and you find 
  it sleeping. possibly it needs to repop? once I'd found the manhole down I 
  don't recall

  all the best,

  Dark.any trouble finding the thing.
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  To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with a quest in ALter Aeon.


  > Hmmm, there don't appear to be that many options of where to go. But then 
  > againt he only entrance I have access to is that manhole since I'm not yet 
  > high level enough to learn either Knock or the Pick Locks skill. But ve 
  > shall see...
  >
  > -Original Message- 
  > From: dark
  > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:31 AM
  > To: Gamers Discussion list
  > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with a quest in ALter Aeon.
  >
  > Hi Bryan.
  > the cell is an alternative way into the sewers from the basement of the
  > chapel. As I recall, there is a choice of paths in the sewer pipe, north 
  > and
  > west I believe. The lesser pit fiend is up the other path in the actual 
  > room
  > called "sewers of bandora azul"
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Re: [Audyssey] Help with a quest in ALter Aeon.

[Keith S]

who gave you that quest?

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bryan Peterson 
  To: gamers@audyssey.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 11:12 AM
  Subject: [Audyssey] Help with a quest in ALter Aeon.


  Hello,
I just got back into ALter a couple days ago after being absent for a 
while. I’ve had a lot of fun but I’m stuck on my last unfinished quest before 
leaving Slo. It has to do with defeating the lesser pit fiend in the sewers of 
Bandera Azul. I can find my way into the sewers but I can’t find what I’m 
supposed to kill. The furthest I can get is a cell with a locked door and a 
naked swordsman. Any help would be appreciated.
  Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
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Re: [Audyssey] Altereon quests suggestion, area info

[Keith S]

orc village for abuse quest
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  Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 6:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Altereon quests suggestion, area info


  Hi paul.

  Grep does sound useful and I will be glad to look that over.
  With questsI do all the usual talking to mobs etc, it's more that some are 
  completely unknown, for example on arcase at the moment there is a quest 
  "stop the abuse of a child" and no idea even which area it is in. I don't 
  mind searching and talking to mobs, but Kordan is pretty big and other areas 
  are manifestly bigger, plus of course there are quests that don't really 
  have a specific start but only get fulfilled by doing something else in the 
  area,  eg, there are lots of children  kicking around but finding which 
  one is being abused is somewhat of a task :D.

  That's why just saying what area quests start in would be handy, especially 
  on arcase and probably the mainland too.

  All the best,

  Dark. 


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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Holiday Imps

[Keith S]

thank the lord


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  Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 12:22 PM
  Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Holiday Imps


  It took some effort, but we finally tracked down why the holiday imps
  were overspawning.  If you were having reader spam issues with them,
  it should be straightened out in the next 15-20 minutes as they
  despawn.

  -dentin

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Re: [Audyssey] alter aeon help needed

[Keith S]

the minion suggestion is a good one, and if you have the mage spell shards it 
helps a bit.  or blue dart.  And try to have a slashing weapon (short sword or 
what not) that is good against blob type mobs.

Keith
  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 4:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alter aeon help needed


  Those blobs in particular are pretty tough. Given that you're a mage, I'd 
  highly recommend that you make use of your necromancer levels and make some 
  minions to take at least a few of the hits for you. Your strategy is 
  (relatively) sound, and at this point there's not really a lot more you can 
  do, other than making sure you have as many defensive spells up as you can. 
  Tactics will come in later once you have stronger secondary classes with a 
  greater variety of skills to call upon.

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  From: Denny Schwab denny.sch...@gmail.com
  Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 15:58
  To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
  Subject: [Audyssey] alter aeon help needed

  Hello,

  I have been playing alter aeon  for a couple of weeks now.  My
  character is now an 18th level mage, with levels in thief, necro, and
  cleric.  I have made it to the second island, and have played through
  quite a few of the quests there.  My issue is that I have a couple of
  the quests I just seem to get demolished every time I try them.  I am
  not sure what I am doing wrong.  At level 18 I would imagine I should
  be able to handle the 14th level broom quest in the Mad Alcomist's
  castle, but the blue blobs there destroy me every single time.

  I am wondering if there is some aspect of the game that I just am not
  getting.  My basic battle plan is to cast spells as quickly as
  possible, but I tend to run out of mana very quickly, and then I don't
  seem to have any options left but to flee.  Are there commands I
  should use in combat that I am not, such as ones to attack or defend
  myself?

  Thanks,

  Denny

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Re: [Audyssey] Fw: A Sound Collection Not to be Missed

[Keith S]

Is there a link to the torrent?  I try to go to the site and it just makes 
my computer hang.

Keith
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  Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 10:36 AM
  Subject: [Audyssey] Fw: A Sound Collection Not to be Missed




  From: Jack
  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:00 AM
  Subject: A Sound Collection Not to be Missed



  Sonniss has released for a limited time, for free, a ten gig audio sound 
effect bundle NOT TO BE MISSED by audio drama producers and creators. As this 
article from bedroomproducersblog explains:

Sonniss has released GameAudioGDC Bundle, a completely free to download 
sound collection featuring over 10 GB of high quality royalty free sounds for 
video game development and other creative work.

The library was released on March 7th and it will remain a free download 
until April 2nd. Sonniss states that they’re giving away this sound collection 
in order to give back to the video game developers community, despite of not 
being able to join the GDC2015 conference this year. They are also running a 
huge game audio sale on their website at the moment, aka GameAudio Special.
  So get on board Sonicateers! Grab your bundle while you still can. They 
recommend the torrent for it!

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[Audyssey] free sound file websites?

[Keith S]

Hey, anyone recommend any free sound effect sties I can get files to place into 
my mush z client  for muds?

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Keith
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Re: [Audyssey] playing aardwolf?

[Keith S]

I started playing this mud about 2 years ago.  I was a pen and paper Palladium
   role player and loved the game world, but it was a bit lacking in combat and 
magic.  plus, quests were given but if you didn't know - where in general terms 
where to go, the only player race to take was the Wolfen class with the innate 
tracking ability.  Yes, other classes could learn the tracking skill, but you'd 
have to level a bit before that skill was available.  Plus, I didn't find the 
people very helpful or friendly on the MUd.  Just my observations and opinion.

  Keith Original Message - 
  From: Darren Harris 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] playing aardwolf?


  What is this empire mud? Can we have more info?

  Sent from my iPhone

   On 20 Mar 2015, at 16:02, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
   hi
   when playing aardwolf since there are no sounds should i turn off the speak 
typed characters and speak typed words in NVDA, and also turn off speech 
interrupt when hitting enter that way when i hit enter it doesn't interrupt 
what is currently going on in the MUD?
   I set up mushClient with the mush reader, output notepad, and one or two 
others. so now it reads with NVDA. and I also got the custom mush-z alter aeon 
client installed as well. I tried the lord of the rings two towers mud but it 
doesn't seem very accessible. It doesn't always ask for my username and 
password and I have to guess at what it is or may be asking. also do any of you 
play the empire mud where you make your own empire and craft stuff?
   
   Josh
   
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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon help

[Keith S]

you can get a list of common commands by typing help command and a list 
should pop up.  also, when you want to drop something you have to type drop and 
then the item.  such as your example drop sleeves.  be careful though, once 
things are dropped, other players can snatch them up or if the server reboots 
or crashes, you will lose them 

Keith (aka summoner)

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  Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 10:24 AM
  Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon help


  Hi,

  I'm new to Alter Aeon and would love any help you can provide.  I have
  a hard time if I spell a command and it doesn't like it says that
  command isn't recognized.  For example I'm using the drop command and
  I type in a set of zombie sleeves or such and says it's not right but
  in my inventory it says I'm carrying them.

  hel.

  thanks,

  Dacia

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Re: [Audyssey] find shamrock?

[Keith S]

no, you have to just type gather green and do that often in each room of the 
South Eastern meadow.  Takes some time.  It took me about 30 minutes to find.

Keith (aka Summoner)

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  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:56 PM
  Subject: [Audyssey] find shamrock?


  hi

  I am having trouble finding the shamrock for the leprechaun. I looked 
  all over the meadow well I think I did is there a quest guide for this?

  Josh

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Re: [Audyssey] the berserk command alter aeon

[Keith S]

I think the berserk command is a high level warrior skill.  Were you in the 
pelim cemetary?  probably too low level

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh K 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 1:25 PM
  Subject: [Audyssey] the berserk command alter aeon


  hi
  how do i use the berserk command in alter aeon? when I was fighting a 
  zombie in the cemetery near the mausoleum I typed berserk and it didn't 
  work.



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Re: [Audyssey] creating a character on alter aeon

[Keith S]

Yes,  you have to type the word out Y E S and hit enter, then there are other 
questions you have to answer.

Keith
  - Original Message - 
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  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] creating a character on alter aeon


  I believe you type 'yes'.  I think there is a question that says
  something to the affect of 'would you like to create a new
  character?'.  Give 'yes' a try and see if that works for you.

  Denny

  On 3/16/15, David Bartling dbartling...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi
   What do I type to create a new character? I tried typing new but it
   didn't work, thanks.
  
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[Audyssey] sound effect sites

[Keith S]

Hi, wondering if anyone has a good site or 2 to get free sound effect files for 
muds?  Can't seem to find any on the first 2 pages of google when I search for 
free sound files.

Thanks

Keith
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[Audyssey] A suggestion for subject lines

[Keith S]

I am not a mod or the owner of the list, but was curious to how others feel to 
having platforms indicated in the subject lines of posts on this list.  When a 
new game is talked about I mean.  This way for those of us who do not use MAC, 
or smart phones to game on could just delete the post.  Example.  blah blah 
blah smart phone game
or blah blah blah windows game

Any thoughts?

Keith
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Re: [Audyssey] Two New Hosted Games! â?oThe Lost Heirâ? and â?oSeven Bulletsâ?

[Keith S]

I'm guessing these games are of IOS only?

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian McNamara 
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  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 11:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Two New Hosted Games! â?oThe Lost Heirâ? and 
â?oSeven Bulletsâ?


  not got these two games but i enjoy playing this collection so will be 
getting them for sure.

  Ian McNamara
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Re: [Audyssey] Clok mud

[Keith S]

actually, you can use mush z, you just have to disable the alteraeon plug in in 
the client to make it work with other muds.  Plus, there is no soundpack for 
games other than alteraeon, so you will have to create your own if you wish to 
have sound effects.

HTH

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: dark 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 2:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clok mud


  Hi Caitlyn.

  No. MushZ is specifically built for alteraeon and will not work with other 
  muds.

  The basic program MushZ is built on, Mushclient will work, though you'll 
  need to install some addons for things like output to your screen reader, 
  and I'm not sure how to do that, though there are others here who use 
  Mushclient in it's standard form and could likely help.

  This is why while I use MushZ for Alteraeon, for all other muds I use 
  Vipmud.

  Beware the Grue!

  Dark.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com
  To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 7:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clok mud


   As long as you have the connection info, can I use mush z to play in this 
   mud?
  
   thanks,
   Caitlyn
  
   On Jan 26, 2015, at 1:20 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
  
   Hi Ian.
  
   the site for the mud is at http://wiki.contrarium.net/
  
   connection info clok.contrarium.net port 4000.
  
   the  only thing I've played like it is wayfar144, but where as in wayfar 
   once you'd built your colony, and gone and foraged and got resources from 
   the wilderness and what not things felt a lot safer (and to me less 
   interesting).
  
   Clok is very much you  about exploring the wilderness and fronteers, and 
   I don't think that stops further up the game either.
  
   You can do amazing amounts of crafting (even making campfires is a quite 
   interesting and involved process), hunt, cook, mine, fight various 
   creatures and do magic. The game feels very realistic, it has the most 
   uniue damage and energy system I've seen. It's not for everyone sinse 
   it's certainly got a learning curve (especially as far as some of the 
   proceses for creation go), but it's worth it, or at least I'm finding so 
   thus far.
  
   I'm darklenna if you want to look me up in the game, but I'm very much 
   still a newbie myself, though other players are amazingly helpful.
  
   All the best,
  
   Dark.
  
   - Original Message - From: Ian McNamara 
   ianmcnamar...@gmail.com
   To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
   Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 3:38 PM
   Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clok mud
  
  
   This is one i’ve never heard of. may have to take a look at this one.
  
   Ian McNamara
   On 26 Jan 2015, at 08:52, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
  
   Well I was desperate for a bit of exploring, so I tried this one, and 
   sure enough exploring is what I got.
  
   The problem I'm finding is a lot of the game systems are pretty complex 
   and rather unforgiving if you got them wrong, for example I bought a 
   handaxe rather than a lumber axe to chop wood and if it wasn't for one 
   particularly kind player I'd have had a good few more wilderness trips 
   than I wanted.
  
   I do like the need to prepare for journies and the idea of getting 
   skills by what you do is good, also the wilderness is certainly my 
   thing, although the game isn't exactly forgiving, I got killed by a 
   coyote after making the mistake of assuming that training in staffs 
   meant I could take something on, also it took me a while to work out 
   camp fires and I've not yet managed to carve anything halfway decent or 
   lucrative, (actually I am wondering what the heck all those branches 
   are for when I fell trees sinse it seems the only practical good you 
   get is making fires, particularly sinse it seems to be easier to find 
   little wild herbs in the forest than firewood which is very odd), 
   indeed I was just trying to cook the first thing I managed to kill (a 
   fox), when a brigand suddenly walked in, womped me in the chest with 
   his mace and killed me stone dead in one go!
  
   Actually the combat commands arne't something I've fully got yet, sinse 
   at first it seemed unless I actively typed kill or battle I wasn't 
   actually attacking at all.
  
   I also wonder how the herbalism knolidge skill goes, sinse I've been 
   doing loads of foraging for herbs and firewood, but not seeing any sort 
   of skill increase.
  
   The game is good, it reminds me of when I started playing wayfare with 
   it's complex wildenress and crafting, and also slower over all combat, 
   though I suspect it won't have the problem wayfare ran into, namely 
   that once you'd setup your colony and were starting to build vehicles 
   and full on sapceships the game became a lot less interesting (or at 
   least it did for me).
  
   I'm darklenna on there if anyone wants to say hi, though 

Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Question

[Keith S]

pretty sure it is control tab.

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bryan Peterson 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 3:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Question


  Wasn't it Control+Shift+Tab?



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  Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
  -Original Message- 
  From: Keith S
  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 11:01 PM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Question

  this may help.  hold the control key down and then hit the tab key.  this 
  should bring you into the output buffer, which will allow you to arrow up 
  and down the screen and see the text that the game has sent you.

  to leave the Output buffer, push control again and tap the tab key.

  Not sure if this is what you are looking for.

  Keith
- Original Message - 
From: King Meade
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 7:00 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Question


I am a newbie playing Alter Aeon, using the mud MUSH-Z and I have a 
  question
I hope someone who is also playing can answer. I am using Jaws as a screen
reader but when text is written to the screen I am not able to read it a
second time with the jaws cursor. If I don't hear it the first time I am 
  out
of luck. Is there a way to review the screen with Jaws? I've tried it on 
  two
computers with the same result. Thanks for any help.

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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Question

[Keith S]

this may help.  hold the control key down and then hit the tab key.  this 
should bring you into the output buffer, which will allow you to arrow up and 
down the screen and see the text that the game has sent you.  

to leave the Output buffer, push control again and tap the tab key.

Not sure if this is what you are looking for.

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: King Meade 
  To: 'Gamers Discussion list' 
  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 7:00 PM
  Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Question


  I am a newbie playing Alter Aeon, using the mud MUSH-Z and I have a question
  I hope someone who is also playing can answer. I am using Jaws as a screen
  reader but when text is written to the screen I am not able to read it a
  second time with the jaws cursor. If I don't hear it the first time I am out
  of luck. Is there a way to review the screen with Jaws? I've tried it on two
  computers with the same result. Thanks for any help.

  I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than
  live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway

  Blind Treasures
  sa...@blindtreasures.com
  PH: 804-726-8900
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Re: [Audyssey] About pc games

[Keith S]

I think you both make points.  Would it be nice to have more games to choose 
from as a blind person?  Yes, of course.  But Creators of assistive tech 
including games, do not make a lot of money, due to our numbers (the blind) 
being so low compared to the sighted community.  The sighted want more graphics 
and realistic visuals, and we blind want clear text or sound effects.  So, it's 
kind of a catch 22 when it comes to mainstream designers creating games the 
blind can play along sides the sighted.

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cara Quinn 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 6:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] About pc games


  wow!

  How did we get to family values?

  Do you not think that there were no merchants in the 16th century? People did 
not get goods and services for free you know, even then. :)

  As for morality, as a blind individual, you might have found yourself locked 
away somewhere (or worse) because of people's views of the disabled back then. 
That's not much morality in my book.

  Cheers!

  Cara
  On Dec 16, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

  they develop for the money that's it. they could care less whether disabled 
folks can play their games. sometimes I wish I had a time machine and could go 
back to the 1500s or so. maybe we did not have technology but we had our 
morality and family values.

  On 12/16/2014 7:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
   Michael,
   
   Again, excellent points. Let me ask you (and the list) a simple question.
   
   Why do mainstream developers develop?
   
   Cheers!
   
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   On Dec 16, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Michael Gauler michael.gau...@gmx.de wrote:
   
   Hi Dark,
   The sad thing about all this is that all these new things we are 
currently getting in the audio game sector are partially old school compared to 
mainstream games.
   Seriously, I know of a mainstream game called Uprising 2.
   You wouldn't be able to play it withouth sighted assistance just to tell 
that first.
   What I want to say is the following:
   This game was a science fiction game where you have to fight in a war 
against an alien race.
   You had to go to over 30 planets and your task was to destroy all alien 
bases on the planet.
   The player controled a futuristic tank with different weapons.
   He could build factories to produce other units to call during battles to 
aid you.
   These units were computer controlled of course.
   I have the game CD.
   During these missions you gained more weapons and technology until you came 
to the final level.
   Every planet you had to go to was its own map file.
   On the game CD (it was small enough for one CD-Rom) you had the game, the 
full user manual as well as other documents.
   The game itself had three extra levels which were a really big ingame 
tutorial.
   But that was not all the CD contained.
   There was a level editor plus its own manual plus another file which 
contained the technical specifications for one of the four main files you need 
for level design.
   And there was one last document explaining the scripting language which you 
needed íf you wanted to create story events or define on what terms you won or 
lost a certain mission.
   This game let the user edit some but not all its files.
   It did not require any form of hardware based registrations, nor was the CD 
copy protected with the kind of copy protection which prevents legal use of the 
product because it is buggy.
   
   This title was released before the year 2000 and ran on Windows 98 systems 
without problems.
   
   This is just one example of what some games of the Windows 95-98 era could 
do.
   Or remember Doom and Quake.
   You could make your own levels and mods for them.
   
   And if you like RPGs you know what Final Fantasy is.
   That series goes back before PCs were common products.
   But I also knew of a Japanese Play Station game which was originally listed 
in the audiogames.net database.
   But up to now we had little in audio RPG titles and the two we have while 
impressive currently don't have official addons/expansions, nor do they support 
user created game content as far as I know.
   
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[Audyssey] AD and D muds?

[Keith S]

Hi, was wondering if anyone knows of some muds that follow the dungeons and 
dragons rules?  I have played Toril and shadowgate, but toril is more of a get 
to the top level and then find better equipment to augment your character ( 
which I find kind of lame) and shadowgate is kind of a pain due to the fact 
that when you leave the game, you either have to go to an inn and pay to have 
your equipment stored in a vault in the inn, and and when you get higher more 
powerful pieces of equipment, you pay increadibly high fees, or if you just end 
the game without being in an inn, you lose all your equipment you have gathered.

Yes, I do play alter aeon, but after a while, I need a break from that one and 
want to try out another.

Thanks

Keith

PS  I am looking for muds I can play on my computer, not a smart phone
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[Audyssey] muds with psionics in a medieval settings

[Keith S]

Hi, me again.  I'm the  one who was asking about muds with a  d and d 
/forgotten realms setting.  Shadowgate and toril just weren't hacking it.  So, 
to ammend my previous email, are their any muds with a psionicist or psionic 
class that takes place in a medieval world setting?

I do love alter aeon and will always fall back on that game, but sometimes I 
just get burened out and need a change of scenery.

Thanks to dennis town and the other individual who responded to my previous 
email.

Thanks

Keith
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Re: [Audyssey] morning star.

[Keith S]

what game is this?

Keith
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  From: ishan dhami 
  To: gamers@audyssey.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 6:54 AM
  Subject: [Audyssey] morning star.


  Hi I have a fighter who is an elf and I equipped her with a morning
  star and she is fighting a goblin king and her hand is breaking.
  hould I equipped her with another item or something.
  what a star basically does?
  oe more question if I use a locate secret scroll and the ocatin is
  very far from the current location then is there any key which can
  repeat me the steps for the location?
  Thanks
  Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] alter aeon underground chess tournament

[Keith S]

I'd like the walkthru if possible

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeremy Brown 
  To: gamers@audyssey.org 
  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 12:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] alter aeon underground chess tournament


  The underground chess tournament is a really old area on Alter Aeon.
  The moves are set up using very old door opening code to make things
  happen.  It's a relic from a more primitive age of building.  If the
  audiogames.net walk through no longer exists for some reason, anyone
  who is interested can contact me off list and I can provide a walk
  through, assuming mine's still accurate.  I know some changes were
  recently made to that area to help deal with some of the whacky syntax
  etc, but revamping the area would be tricky.  When I completed the
  deed myself, I was actually talking to the original builder Islaine.
  She had me play through all the chess problems on a board.  Took me
  about 3 and a half hours one morning.  However, it was something of a
  rush.

  Jeremy

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[Audyssey] chess and the blind

[Keith S]

can anyone suggest the best way for me to learn how to play chess as a blind 
person?  I played when I had sight, but the notation method is confusing the 
crap out of me.

Thanks

Keith
Blind but not Useless
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Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind

[Keith S]

I've got the same problem with the spacial distortion in my head.Just 
wanted to know how to do it so I could solve the alteraeon quest in Gads.


Thanks

Keith
  - Original Message - 
  From: dark 
  To: Gamers Discussion list 
  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] chess and the blind


  My personal advice would be to get a tactile chess set (sometimes called a 
  braille chess set, even though they don't have braille on them), and start 
  playing live against a human.

  To explain these are sets where there are holes in each square on the board 
  and the peaces are on pegs so you can put your mits on the board without 
  knocking them over, one side (usually the white, though not always), has 
  pins on the top to tell them apart. I'm not sure where you'd get one from in 
  your part of the world, they tend to be sold by the same places who sell 
  braille cards, dice etc.

  Personally, while I understand chess notation, I find it near impossible to 
  hold spacial information about the board in mind without the board. I want 
  to put my hand on the white knight and my other finger on the square it will 
  move to, and then put my fingers (and to a very much lesser extent my 
  disfunctional eyeballs), on the surrounding squares and see if that move 
  will be a bad or good one.

  This is why I've never got on with the various audio Chess games like 
  BGChess challenge, Kchess elite etc. Sinse while they have some good audio 
  overviews for the board, fundamentally you are still just getting the 
  information square by square, and I don't find myself able to old enough 
  spacial information about the board in mind for that sort of overview to 
  really help me or make it possible for me to play chess.

  Of course this is me, and I will freely admit my spacial coordination is 
  pretty cruddy, (even in mobility I tend to substitute routes and land mark 
  memory instead of working out where I am spacially), you might be different 
  though I'm guessing by your comment you could be in a similar position, 
  hence my suggestion of a tactile chess set.

  Beware the grue!

  Dark. 


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[Audyssey] wayfare game?

[Keith S]

A couple of weeks ago, there was discussion regarding a game that started with 
the word way, wayfarer, wayland, something like that.  Dark, I believe you 
discussed it a lot.  Can somoene let me know if this is a mud that is listed on 
the mud connecter list, or can somoene remind me what  the name of the game was 
and how to get ahold of it?

Thanks

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Re: [Audyssey] wayfare game?

[Keith S]

Thanks Dark.  The walking talking info manual.
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  Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 12:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] wayfare game?


  The game was called wayfar, as in way far.

  the game's site can be found at http://wayfar1444.comm you can connect with 
  host wayfar144.com on port .

  The game is actually more like a browser game than a mud, you wander through 
  different environments on an alien planet, gather resources, build buildings 
  guns and other forms of technology, can hack devices and do all sorts of 
  other things.

  Unfortunately when i last went on I found several bits of my colony blown up 
  which was annoying and I can't quite remember where I was in terms of 
  building stuff now which makes it a trifle hard to continue. dam that pvp!

  Beware the grue!

  Dark.

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  Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 6:07 PM
  Subject: [Audyssey] wayfare game?


  A couple of weeks ago, there was discussion regarding a game that started 
  with the word way, wayfarer, wayland, something like that.  Dark, I believe 
  you discussed it a lot.  Can somoene let me know if this is a mud that is 
  listed on the mud connecter list, or can somoene remind me what  the name 
  of the game was and how to get ahold of it?
  
   Thanks
  
   Keith
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[Audyssey] miriani mud?

[Keith S]

anyone have any info (such as the log on info) for the miriani mud?

Thanks

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Re: [Audyssey] New Game! Mecha Ace -- Duel giant mechs withplasma sabers to save us all

[Keith S]

sounds robotech - ish
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sabers to save us all


  Hello, I like the sound of this a lot. I reckon that this will be a good 
game. I love the choice of games titles.

  Ian McNamara
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Re: [Audyssey] What is SOD?

[Keith S]

gotcha.  played it.  gave me a headache.  Probably from me tensing up on the 
action.


LOL

Keith
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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What is SOD?



Hello Keith,

Shades of Doom, sometimes nicknamed SOD, is a first-person shooter
loosely based on the ?Doom game. You are a high-level government
official sent to a secret laboratory to find out the status of a top
secret experiment. You get trapped inside the lab and end up having to
fight off hoards of mutant humans, mutant dogs, rats, blobs, cyborgs,
and various other monsters. Your goal is to shut down the ill fated
experiment and escape the lab.

HTH


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What type of game is sod?


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Re: [Audyssey] a disappointing ending

[Keith S]

is this a I-pad/i-phone game?

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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a disappointing ending



Hello Ishan,

Actually, in that scene you speak of Super Liam doesn't really die. It
ended that way because Liam was intending on creating a sequel, Super
Liam 2, where that scene is explained in further detail.

As for a main character or hero dying at the end of a game that's
actually been done many times in mainstream games. Usually it is
intended as a cliff hanger for the next game in the series and it
turns out the hero doesn't actually die but survives it in some way,
or is succeeded by an apprentice type character who picks up the
adventure.

For example, one game that comes to mind is Tomb Raider IV: Last
Revelation. At the end of the game after Lara Croft places the amulet
in the niche on the wall Set's temple begins to collapse and Lara
tries to escape only to apparently fall to her death only inches away
from the door way with Dr. Von Croy looking on. It actually turns out
in Tomb Raider VI: Angel of Darkness that Lara survived the fall, and
comes looking for Dr. Von Croy only to walk in when he is being
murdered by art thieves.

the point here is that Edos Interactive added a cliff hanger, a bit of
mystery to the end of Last Revelation, in order to get people
interested in what happened to Lara Croft. In order to get the full
story they had to get Angel of Darkness which basically explains what
happened. Same idea applies here with Super Liam.

Cheers!


On 5/15/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:

Please read this post very carefully
all you have played super liam and enjoyed but you don't note one thing.
The last seen
Which is very disappointing to me.
After credits there is an another ending in this ending Liam died by a
christel and x1 again cries
Why is it so? What is the reason behind it?
How can a person can imagine that a hero will die.
Did you talk with liam about that.?
O dood what a roar!
Maxwell hitting six and four!
Smilee!
Ishan

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[Audyssey] What is SOD?

[Keith S]

What type of game is sod?


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[Audyssey] question about mush client

[Keith S]

Hi, i've been using mush client eexclusively to play muds online.  Started 
out with alteraeon (which is the game that mush client was designed for), 
but I have also played cyberassault and Toril: the sojourner's home) as well 
on it.


I recently uninstalled it because the mush client was acting buggy and the 
window's title bar said HO instead of Toril when I would play that game.


I downloaded the full install from
http://backup.mush-z.com/

When I install it though, the installer does fine and I am then confronted 
with an option to add jaws support, which I do not install.  I click close 
when the successful install screen comes up.


The client then does an auto update to the newest version and tells me that 
the update is successful and the changelog opens in notepad.  I read it and 
closed it.


The thing is a window that has the title bar stating setup is still on the 
screen,  along with a window that has the location of the mush client 
subfolders.


I cannot close either one of these windows and even using windows task 
manager can't close these window.


Am i supposed to simply wait for these windows to close?

Window eyes cannot read any text in either window, so I am at a loss.

Also, when I try and enter the log on info for toril, I hit the combo for 
new under the file menu option in mush client after restarting my system 
(without closing those windows) and the output  buffer opens (which should 
be a shift control  o command, but the new command is shift control N.


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Re: [Audyssey] Uncharted peak brouser rpg

[Keith S]

Is the link for the game correct?  When I click on it I get a page not found 
window.


Keith
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:15 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Uncharted peak brouser rpg



Hi.

I don't know if anyone remembers the game that shadow dragon posted about 
a few weeks ago,k www.unchartedpeak.comm.


This is quite a unique new brouser rpg that has just started up 
developement. What mnakes it particularly unique to me is the battle 
system, sinse you fight on a grid, and have to move and attack monsters, 
as well as using spells and the like. On the grid are also orbs which you 
can move to to get boosts and other things as well. i suspect this one 
could really go far if people support it, so I'd urge everyone to give it 
a try.


The game master also seems great about access, for instance even though 
there is a rather horrible capture to create an account, he's stated he'll 
happily create accounts for any vi players who want to play, and once your 
account is created everything is fine.


I haven't got far into the game myself from bring at music school, but i'm 
already quite impressed and would highly recommend it.


thus far, my only cryticism is that the monsters have no flavour text, 
which for me is always a downer in a game, sinse just being told I'm 
fighting say a dingo or a molosc is pretty uninteresting, but the battles 
are a lot of fun.


The game is also free, though you can buy some account upgrades for extra 
inventory slots and the like.

Hope people enjoy this one.

All the best,

Dark.
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[Audyssey] How to unsubscribe and resubscribe from this list?

[Keith S]

Hi, I am having troubles with the email account given to me by my ISP, so I 
am  planning to unsubscribe from all my lists and resubscribe with a new 
email address (a g mail account).  Anyway, how do I unsubscribe from this 
list, and then resubscribe with my new account?


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[Audyssey] Plague card issue in entombed 1.05B

[Keith S]

Hi, I was just able to purchase the plauge card from the bizarre in the game 
Entombed 1.05 B.  It said that You now see things in a new light or something 
like that.  Anyways, I saved my game, and then went back to the main menu.  I 
checked the unlocked option, and the plauge card was not listed.  I tried to 
start  a new game, and there were no new races or classes/jobs unlocked.

Any idea if I just got screwed. And yes, the bizarre gave me a purchase 
completeA message before I left it.

Thanks

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[Audyssey] How to start up Alter Aeon?

[Keith S]

Hi I've got the mush z client set up on my sstem, and now I'm at a loss on how 
to start up the Alter Aeon game.  Any help or a point in the right direction 
would be greatly  appreciated.

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[Audyssey] test please delete

[Keith S]

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[Audyssey] Alter Aeon, Mush - z startup error

[Keith S]

Hi, I finally got around to downloading the mush-z mudd client and was getting 
ready to start playing Alter Aeon.  I started up Mush-z, and got the following 
error:

---
mushclient
---
Z:\Dropbox\Public\mush\worlds\alteraeon\alter_aeon.mcl contains an invalid path.
---
OK   
---


Not sure what i did wrong.  This is the file (the Mush z file) that is about 
300 MB large, and from the mush-z website that is linked from the alter aeon 
page.

Any help would be appreciated.

Keith
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Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon, Mush - z startup error

[Keith S]

that would be great.

Keith
hea...@mchsi.com
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon, Mush - z startup error


I've got no help for you, save to say that I've scene this happening with 
others on the game as well. If you'd like, I can
post a valid mushz light (without area music) on dropbox and you can use 
the update feature to get the latest stuff.

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:15:46 -0500
Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon, Mush - z startup error

Hi, I finally got around to downloading the mush-z mudd client and was 
getting ready to start playing Alter Aeon.  I started up Mush-z, and got 
the following error:


---
mushclient
---
Z:\Dropbox\Public\mush\worlds\alteraeon\alter_aeon.mcl contains an invalid 
path.

---
OK
---


Not sure what i did wrong.  This is the file (the Mush z file) that is 
about 300 MB large, and from the mush-z website that is linked from the 
alter aeon page.


Any help would be appreciated.

Keith
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Re: [Audyssey] Uncharted Peak, New Story-Driven RPG

[Keith S]

I loved plyaing Diablo, both as a computer game and as a paper and pencil 
RPG when I could see.  This should be pretty good.


Keith
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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Uncharted Peak, New Story-Driven RPG



Thanks for this, I'll gladly give this one a go.

Diablo is indeed one of those games I've always wanted to play, me being 
an exploration nut, and it's good to here the developer has access in 
mind.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:27 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Uncharted Peak, New Story-Driven RPG


I actually happened across this on mudconnector, which is a bit surprising 
since it's not what I would consider a mud. But it is pretty cool for a 
browser-based game. It's sort of like a mix between Diablo and a tactical 
RPG. It's got diablo's randomly generated equipment system and quest path, 
and it's got a turn-based tactical battle system that sort of simulates 
diablo's combat system in the best way a browser-based game can. Unlike in 
most browser-based RPG's, you actually complete your characters on this 
game, as in, you can actually finish the storyline. Once that happens you 
start a new character. From what I see the storyline isn't hugely in-depth 
unless I missed some parts somehow, but it is fairly well-written, and 
there are tons of other things to do and achievements to unlock. On the 
battlefield there's orbs and items to collect, and from what I understand 
orbs do various things, from curing all alements, to restoring HP, to 
granting experience. Combat is kind of slow even once you get used to it, 
but it isn't too bad once you figure out how it works. It's even got tons 
of zones, monsters and events to check out. I'd definitely give this one a 
look if you're an RPG fan, or even just a diablo fan and you always wished 
you could play.


www.unchartedpeak.com

There's a more comprehensive features list on the website for anyone 
interested.


One thing that really impressed me about this game was the developer's 
willingness to add accessibility features. At first the combat was 
unplayable because you couldn't tell where the monster was, and doing 
things like equipping items was a little tricky. But within a day of my 
asking, the developer went above and beyond my suggestions, implementing 
all of my suggestions as well as a few things I didn't even think of to 
make the game completely playable. I was very impressed. So if you're 
worried about accessibility, I think he's got that covered and I'm sure 
if you find anything else that's tricky to do he'd be willing to 
implement it, as long as it doesn't unbalance gameplay.


Enjoy.
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Re: [Audyssey] godville game

[Keith S]

I agree.

Keith
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From: Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net

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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] godville game



Hey Tom,
I tend to be suspicious of anything new or diffrent since going blind. I 
have had situations come up all the time in the past that caused me large 
headaches due to an accessible program or game becoming suddenly 
unaccessible. So I have simply stuck to that which works and haven't gone 
crazy with upgrades, updates and the like. Maybe not the best way to move 
forward, but  like you said, I am kind of comfortable  now with what I 
got, and probably won't upgrade to something if there is no real need to.
Thank you for explaining about firefox though. I did notice something 
called a godville UI offered during a google search and I think firefox 
was mentioned that went with it or was needed for it. Maybe I will check 
out firefox and see what that Ui is all about.

Thanks Thomas,
al
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Re: [Audyssey] godville game

[Keith S]

I've had similar problems with firefox, and it seems very slow to me, where 
as IE 8 seems to zip around the net like no one's business.


Keith
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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] godville game



Hi nickle.

the problem is for me, firefox itself crashes so often as to be unusable, 
besides webvision as I understand it won't do all captures.


That's why no game that requires a capture will get an audiogames.net 
entry unless there is an alternative way around.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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From: Nicol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net

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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] godville game



Hi all
Web visum is a great help to solve captias.
I don't have the address but I'm sure you would be able to get web visum 
by

googling it.
Web visum is a plug in for fire fox.
Currently  it doesn't work in internet explorer, only fire fox.
But solving captias with web visum is very easy.
hth

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: 24 July 2012 11:31 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] godville game

Hi Alan.

The game looks interesting, and though i've been taken up with Ce it's
always worth trying something new, however that is the worst audio 
catprue

I've ever heard in my life!

usually I can get round audio captures myself by using a good pare of
headphones, but that one is abominable! and I don't unfortunately have 
any

sighted assistance.

I've mailed the support staff of the game, to see if this can be fixed, 
(if

not, I won't be adding it to the db).

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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[Audyssey] test please delete

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[Audyssey] test again please delete

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Just a test.  Have Thomas's  authorization to do this.
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[Audyssey] test #2 - please delete

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[Audyssey] Entombed googlegroup archive website

[Keith S]

Could someone give me the address for the Entombed googlegroup archive webpage?

Thanks

Can't seem to access the archives with the address I have on file.

Even if I log into my account.

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[Audyssey] Entombed question about goblin card - spoiler

[Keith S]

SPOILER contained

I installed the 1.05B version of the entombed game after uninstalling the 1.02 
K version.  This blanked out all my found cards, so I started the adventuring 
to recover those cards.  I have found the crystal card in the dungeon after 
defeating the drake,  and the sapphinre card and the druid card after doing 
what I needed to do to get those cards.  But the goblin card still eludes me.  
I have defeated the goblin kind in two seperate adventtures, and have not found 
it.  I have also fought to the 12th levels and have not found the goblin card.  
Do I need to uninstall the gave and then reinstall the game to reset the game 
parameteres to get access to the goblin card again?

Please email me off list if need be...email at bottom of this message.

I would have posted or looked up this info on the googlegroup, but since June 
1st, I cannot use the site.  It keeps track of what I have  searched for, but 
does not give me search results.

Also, what does the plague card from the bizarre do?

Thanks

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[Audyssey] Can I use games for the I-pad on my computer?

[Keith S.]

Hi, is there any way to use some of the games for I-pads or the like on my PC?

Are their any emulators or such?

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[Audyssey] Where to download the bokurano daibouken game in English?

[Keith S.]

Hi, I went to the site that has been regularly talked about for audible games 
for reviews and download links, and thought I was downloading the installer for
bokurano daibouken 2 game.

When I started the installer/setup program, the first screen had a bunch of 
question marks and one link that Window Eyes could locate.  The actual text on 
the window was in some foreign language (not English).

Where can I find the installer package for this game?

Thanks

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Re: [Audyssey] times ashes collection

[Keith S.]

yes, please.  I emailed you my email address yesterday.

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- Original Message - 
From: john jpcarnemo...@comcast.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] times ashes collection


Hmm I didn't know that existed. Does anybody still want me to email you 
the collection from GMA? To anyboddy who has downloaded the file from the 
ifarchive, does it have games such as curses, windhall and the zork 
trilogy?


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From: Kelly Sapergia ksaper...@gmail.com
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:28:55 -0600
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] times ashes collection

Hi,

I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but the Time's Ashes collection 
can

be downloaded from the Starters section of the Interactive Fiction Archive
at http://www.ifarchive.org/indexes/if-archiveXstarters.html
Look for the file ashes.exe.

Hope this helps.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelly John Sapergia
Show Host and Production Director
The Global Voice Internet Radio
www.theglobalvoice.info

Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net
Business Website: www.kjsproductions.com


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[Audyssey] AI, where can i find it?

[Keith S.]

Hi, where can I find the game talked about on the list called AI?

Thanks

Also, I heard about a game called Lone Wolf.  if someone knows where I can find 
that one as well, I'd apprecaite it.

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Re: [Audyssey] AI, where can i find it?

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Thanks for the websites.  Sorry with the individual requests.

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- Original Message - 
From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] AI, where can i find it?



Hi Kieth.

No idea on the ai thing, but lonewolf is on the gmagames site, indeed I am 
surprised you didn't find it when you went to look up shades of doom and 
gma tank commander.


kieth, I do very much suggest you look at the pcs games list at 
www.pcsgames.net and the audiogames.net database at www.audiogames.net, 
both are the best places to look at games and will give you a much better 
overview than you just asking about whatever games we happen to mention on 
list.


There are lots of good games we might not discuss, plus of course it's 
always better to make up your own mind on these things and see for 
yourself what is available. The audiogames.net db comes with hopefully 
informative descriptions of the games with links to resources, and also 
the facility to search by genre, while the fantastic games and where to 
find them list at pcs serves as a massive list of websites so is great for 
an overview.


Hth.

All the best,

Dark.
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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:09 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] AI, where can i find it?



Hi, where can I find the game talked about on the list called AI?

Thanks

Also, I heard about a game called Lone Wolf.  if someone knows where I 
can find that one as well, I'd apprecaite it.


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[Audyssey] Cost of Shades of Doom?

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Anyone know what the cost of the  game Shades of Doom is?

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[Audyssey] Shades of Doom...your thoughts?

[Keith S.]

Hi everyone.  thanks for the pricing info on shades of doom.  My next question, 
to those who have played it, is it worth the $35.00?

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Re: [Audyssey] Shades of Doom...your thoughts?

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I'd love it.

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From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk

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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shades of Doom...your thoughts?


actually, while we're discussing shades, i would like to mention a mod by 
a
guy known as locutus, who you may or may not know.  but if you want the 
mod

i'll be glad to send you it.

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Sent: 23 April 2012 16:14
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shades of Doom...your thoughts?


Hi Keith,

Definitely. Shades of Doom is one of my favorite accessible games. Its
one of the first games to truly explore the first-person shooter format
by cloning a game like Doom by ID software and making it available in an
audio only format. Of course, don't take my word for it and play the
demo yourself. That's the only way you'll know if its worth the $35 to
you personally.

Cheers!


On 4/23/2012 10:27 AM, Keith S. wrote:

Hi everyone.  thanks for the pricing info on shades of doom.  My next

question, to those who have played it, is it worth the $35.00?


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[Audyssey] Shades of Doom...what is GTC?

[Keith S.]

Hi, what is GTC?

I'm kind of new to the audio game world.  I've played trivia games from Jim 
Kitchen, and the games from Babisoft, but other than that, I'm totally at a 
loss.  Been a member of this group for a while.


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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shades of Doom...your thoughts?





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Hi, I'd say it is well worth the money!  It's my favourite accessible 
shooter game, and has amazing replay value.  There's also loads you can do 
with the cheat codes, and quite a few different ways to play the game.  It 
also has a very good help system built into the game, just like Sarah and 
GTC.


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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 4:14 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shades of Doom...your thoughts?



Hi Keith,

Definitely. Shades of Doom is one of my favorite accessible games. Its 
one of the first games to truly explore the first-person shooter format 
by cloning a game like Doom by ID software and making it available in an 
audio only format. Of course, don't take my word for it and play the demo 
yourself. That's the only way you'll know if its worth the $35 to you 
personally.


Cheers!


On 4/23/2012 10:27 AM, Keith S. wrote:
Hi everyone.  thanks for the pricing info on shades of doom.  My next 
question, to those who have played it, is it worth the $35.00?


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Re: [Audyssey] Bavisoft

[Keith S.]

the site is still running, but no new games have come out.

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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 2:02 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Bavisoft



Hi all,

Does anyone know if the game producer, Bavisoft, is still around? I have
both of the games they did several years ago, Grizzly Gulch and 
Chillingham.
I never have been able to really get around Chillingham. I haven't heard 
of

the company in a long time. Have they done anything else?

Paulette


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Re: [Audyssey] Downloading from X-Sight Interactive

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what's the address for your site?

Thanks

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Subject: [Audyssey] Downloading from X-Sight Interactive



Hey folks,
Recently I was contacted and notified about the fact that downloads on 
X-Sight Interactive were exceptionally slow, particularly while 
downloading large files such as River Raiders. I have recently spoken to 
my web host about this and, despite a few hitches, these issues should now 
be fixed.
If anyone has any more problems with downloading, please let me know so I 
can kick my host up the rear end. Grin.

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Re: [Audyssey] Downloading from X-Sight Interactive

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Thanks much

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Hi Keith,
The address is www.x-sight-interactive.net.
Cheers.
Damien.


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what's the address for your site?

Thanks

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Subject: [Audyssey] Downloading from X-Sight Interactive



Hey folks,
Recently I was contacted and notified about the fact that downloads on 
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my web host about this and, despite a few hitches, these issues should 
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Re: [Audyssey] Beri Beri Baseball

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what site is this??  I got a link for it before, but it was a dead link.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Beri Beri Baseball



Is the download for the game at the same sight?

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[Audyssey] Kitchen's inc website forbidden to me

[Keith S.]

Hi, I tried to go to Jim Kitchen's website to download some of his trivia packs 
before I go on the road, and the site came up as  Forbidden.

Any clue as to why this is happening?

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[Audyssey] Question on Jim Kitchen's trivia games

[Keith S.]

Hi, I installed the trivia basic package of Jim's Trivia games (contains a car 
and a general trivia file).  When I placed other expansion packs into the 
folder to play, such as an arthurian legend and a lord of the rings pack in, 
the extensions for the files were different.  I believe the ones Jim made were 
.trv format, and the expansions were someting like .tfg 

Is there Anyway to play these expansions?

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[Audyssey] Swamp questions

[Keith S.]

Hi, there has been a lot of talk and discussions regarding the game called 
Swamp (a zombie stomping game)).  Is there a website i can go to to learn about 
game play, instuctions on how to move, shoot, etc, and what not.  I understand 
that it is a server based online game (like a MUDD I guess).

Any help or suggestions would be greatly  appreciated.

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[Audyssey] Any sword and sorcery games for the blind?

[Keith S]

Wondering if there any sword and sorcery games out there for the blind?  I used 
to play a series called Might and Magic when I could see, but alas, it is all 
graphically driven, and the game was seriously lacking in aduio components 
unless you found treasure, but you couldn't figure out what you had as a blind 
gamer.

I have played Zorks 1 to 3, and enjoyed them, but I'm looking for something 
with more meat on it, so to speak.  Perhaps something more in lines with the 
Dungeons and Dragons genre, or the old SSI (Stratigic Simulations Incorporated 
Pool of Radiance series, only for the blind.

Also, something like the Quest for Glory series would be great.  Puzzles, 
fighting, magic, etc.

Thanks

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Re: [Audyssey] Any sword and sorcery games for the blind?

[Keith S]

Thanks so much for your help Dark.  You are a true guru, and not a grue!!!
Keith
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Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any sword and sorcery games for the blind?



Hi Kieth.

Wow what a question! and probably one that requires a long answer. Asking 
whether there are any sword and sorcerery themed games is a little like 
asking whether there are any games that use guns :d.


firstly, I suggest you go to http://audiogames.net/dbindex.php and search 
the audiogmaes.net by the genre catagory of rpgs (you might also want to 
look under adventure games and gamebooks too), that's probably the best 
way to get an overview.


Broardly speaking, there are four types of games that might fit the bill.

1: Audio rpgs, ie, role playing games that just use sound as interface. 
There aren't many of these, but what there is is pretty good. The two best 
in that genre are entombed, a full scale tactical turn based combat audio 
roguelike dungeon hack with many random elements and literally hours of 
playing even in the demo, see the entombed page on the audiogames.net 
database for more details, and Airik the clerric, a more action rpg title 
sort of like an audio version of Zelda, with lots of exploring and an on 
going plot (though note you'll neeed windows 7 for that one).


There is also Sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizardry. Though 
strictly an adventure game more than an rpg, it is set in the harry potter 
universe, is a full first person audio adventure, with many puzzles, magic 
artifacts, and great stounds. If you like Harry potter you should try 
that.


Lastly, there id castaways. Though strictly speaking a stratogy game more 
than rpg, it does have much more of plot and mission structure than most 
other stratogy games, involving controlling a small number of units in 
more detail rather than controlling many hundreds of units.


For instance, the first mission involves being shipwrecked on a shore and 
having to build a village, farms and sustain your population in order to 
create soldiers and knights to fight back the hoards of attacking goblins, 
and eventually build and stock a ship to hopefully sale back from where 
you have come.


Further rpg games, such as another installment of the airik the clerric 
may well be in the works too.


2: Muds.

These are similar to interactive fiction, accept that everything in them, 
all events are real time sent from the mud server to your computer. So 
you'll get into combat, and combat rounds will happen whether or not you 
attack a monster, but typing in commands will let you do things like use 
special attacks, cast spells etc.


Like interactive fiction you wander through rooms and areas, but many muds 
do more than just offer puzzles. You can craft items, go on quests that 
might involve killing monsters or talking to npcs, join together with 
other players to form a party or fight against them.


all you need is a mud client to connect to the mud, such as vipmud from 
www.gmagames.com.


Another point about muds however is that some muds can have sound and 
audio, this is accomplished by creating a special script where your client 
will play sounds when certain events in the mud happen. .


Alteraeon, a game we've been discussing on list recently, and imho one of 
the best and probably most accessible muds ever, has a special sound pack 
created by Oriol gomez that has so many sounds, keys to do one thing 
instead of typing commands, helpful options and such that it virtually 
turns alteraeon from a text game into an audio rpg. See the audiogames.net 
db page for alteraeon for more details.


3:Brouser rpgs.

These are text games played in your web brouser, and are played online 
against many other people. Rather than typing commands interactive fiction 
style, you click on links to make stuff happen. So there could be a 
description of your location and a link called attack monster


Most brouser rpgs have strong competative elements, many players online, 
but also quests and other things to do as well. I'd personally recommend 
the game's warriors 2, Sryth, Monster breeder (though that one hasn't been 
pdated in a while), metroplexities and the comedy games Twilight heroes 
and Kingdom of Loathing.


See the audiogames.net db for more information.

Another catagory of games that you can play online are gamebooks. These 
are superficially similar to brouser rpgs, but you don't have other 
players, just linked sets of html pages that run together to create a 
story your charaacter progresses through based on your own choices and 
sometimes dice rolls.


Occasionally you have to fill out your own character sheet and roll your 
own dice for these, but for especially good gamebooks such as the 
chronicles of arborell or the Project Aon lone wolf series (nothing to do 
with the submarine game), it is worth it.


Combat and 

Re: [Audyssey] Has anyone ever been able to play the Infocom textadventure Shogun?

[Keith S]

yes, I use a z code interpreter.  Sorry for any misunderstanding

Keith
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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Has anyone ever been able to play the Infocom 
textadventure Shogun?




Hey Tom,
Just a correction here if you allow me. the Infocom games are not written 
in Inform. The Inform programming language was created by Graham Nelson 
after the Infocom games had been released. It was created to be abe to 
create the z-code files that was produced by Infocom, and that is what you 
will most likely find in the descriptions of Inform.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Has anyone ever been able to play the Infocom text 
adventure Shogun?




Hi Keith,

Yes, Shogun is playable. However, what interpreter specifically are
you using. I don't understand when you say, I am using the text
reader from White Stick. I'm afraid that doesn't make any sense as
the Infocom games were written in a language known as Inform and are
played using in interpreter like Frotz, Winfrotz, Zoom, and so forth.

On 2/6/12, Keith S hea...@mchsi.com wrote:
Hi, I was wondering, has anyone been able to play the Infocom text 
adventure

game called Shogun?  It is one of the few infocom games that inclued
graphics, and I, for the life of me, cannot get the game to start, let 
alone
play it.  I have been using the text game reader from whitestick.co.uk 
to

play the text only games from Infocom.  \


Thanks

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[Audyssey] So, what interpreter should I use for Infocom's Shogun?

[Keith S]

I've been following  the thread regarding the Shogun thread, but I am still at 
a loss as to what interpreter to use.  Can someone give me a point, or a kick 
in the right direction on this?

Thanks

Keith
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[Audyssey] Grizzly gulch questions, no spoilers

[Keith S]

Hi, In Grizzly Gulch, is there any way to talk / haggle with the gernal store 
owner?  His prices are like buying a ring from Tiffany's.

Also, is there any other purpose to the target range other than practicing with 
the gun controls?

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[Audyssey] Grizzly Gulch - Are their different missions and puzzles on Gunslinger level?

[Keith S]

Are their more or different puzzles and quests on the gunslinger level, or does 
it just make the aiming more difficult with 5 faces rather than the 3 in cow 
poke level?

Thanks as always,

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Re: [Audyssey] Grizzly Gulch - Are their different missions andpuzzleson Gunslinger level?

[Keith S]

So, I know Bavisoft only had the two games, but are their other games 
similar to GG or Chillingham out there, by other companies?


Thanks

Keith
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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:35 AM
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Hi Kieth.

No, I'm afraid the game is exactly the same on gunslinger as it is on 
cowpoke apart from having five direction shooting instead of three, and a 
faster version of the shell game I believe.


Remember, Gg was made in 2000, and therefore is actually pretty primative 
now, amusing though some of the acting is.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Subject: [Audyssey] Grizzly Gulch - Are their different missions and 
puzzleson Gunslinger level?



Are their more or different puzzles and quests on the gunslinger level, 
or does it just make the aiming more difficult with 5 faces rather than 
the 3 in cow poke level?


Thanks as always,

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[Audyssey] Has anyone ever been able to play the Infocom text adventure Shogun?

[Keith S]

Hi, I was wondering, has anyone been able to play the Infocom text adventure 
game called Shogun?  It is one of the few infocom games that inclued graphics, 
and I, for the life of me, cannot get the game to start, let alone play it.  I 
have been using the text game reader from whitestick.co.uk to play the text 
only games from Infocom.  \


Thanks

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[Audyssey] Question regarding Gizzly Gulch

[Keith S]

Spoiler contained  Be warned

Hi,

I finally got Grizzly Gulch to work after downloading the 1.2.1 patch from the 
bavisoft site and then looking in the FAQ section on their site, and turning 
the acceleration for my Direct X  Sound option to the lowest setting (shooting 
scenes would lock up on me).

I have gone to the bank and couldn't stop the robbery.  I got shot.Cecil 
suggested I get a gun.  I took out a loan, and bought a gun.  I held off the 
next robbery and cecil told me that he would mention it to the martial.  I then 
went to the target range, and shot the place up and then missed one.   (misfire 
actually).  The computer voice told me Amazing (rubs nails on chest).

I've been back into and out of the bank several more times (5) and there are no 
more robberies., and the martial's office is still closed.  Do I keep trying to 
get a robbery in progress to show up in the bank, and try to bbuild up my 
reputation in town that way?  I doubt the martial would be interested in my 
gambling skills (which I suck at, considering my wife once dealt blackjack and 
poker in a local casino here in Illinois.).

Thanks for any tips.

Keith
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Re: [Audyssey] Question regarding Gizzly Gulch

[Keith S]

Thanks, it worked.

Keith
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Question regarding Gizzly Gulch



Try to play some games for a while if you are waiting on him to show up.

Hth.

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Subject: [Audyssey] Question regarding Gizzly Gulch

Spoiler contained  Be warned

Hi,

I finally got Grizzly Gulch to work after downloading the 1.2.1 patch from
the bavisoft site and then looking in the FAQ section on their site, and
turning the acceleration for my Direct X  Sound option to the lowest 
setting

(shooting scenes would lock up on me).

I have gone to the bank and couldn't stop the robbery.  I got shot. 
Cecil
suggested I get a gun.  I took out a loan, and bought a gun.  I held off 
the

next robbery and cecil told me that he would mention it to the martial.  I
then went to the target range, and shot the place up and then missed one.
(misfire actually).  The computer voice told me Amazing (rubs nails on
chest).

I've been back into and out of the bank several more times (5) and there 
are

no more robberies., and the martial's office is still closed.  Do I keep
trying to get a robbery in progress to show up in the bank, and try to
bbuild up my reputation in town that way?  I doubt the martial would be
interested in my gambling skills (which I suck at, considering my wife 
once

dealt blackjack and poker in a local casino here in Illinois.).

Thanks for any tips.

Keith
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[Audyssey] nEED HELP IN CHILLINGHAM - using the organ

[Keith S]

SPOILER

I have fixed the organ, and have the walkthough for chillingham.  It gives 
directions on how to play the parrot's song on the organ.  I have done this.

I tap right until I get to use.  I hit up key.  A tone plays.  I then hit the 
following keys in order:

Right, left, up, right, left, up, right.  Nothing happens.  If I hit down, the 
character says, well, I guess playing the organ isn't as easy as I thought (or 
something like that).

I inspect the door.  It is still closed.

Is there a  certain amount of time I need to press and hold the keys to play 
the song correctly?

Thanks

Keith
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Re: [Audyssey] Games where you are in the jungle.

[Keith S]

Is that link dead?  I got a page not found error.

Keith
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Try looking at the lists of games, like the ones that Phil has compiled.

www.pcsgames.net

You might find something on these lists.  HTH.

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Subject: [Audyssey] Games where you are in the jungle.



Hey, anyone.
I was wondering what games are out there where you are in the jungle?  I 
know about Hunter and Tarzan JR.
I was hoping that there might be more games like these, And/or games 
where you go through stuff like Hunter wher you are looking for some kind 
of treasure.

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