Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3

2012-01-09 Thread pk
On 2012-01-09 00:48, Walter Dnes wrote:

Hm... if you didn't compile it in you would have needed an initrd;
didn't think of that... :-(

 * with only one binary blob. it just works

 * multiple blobs should not be included in the kernel, otherwise it gets
   confused.  If multiple blobs are included, there's a fallback
   mechanism that uses udev to figure out exactly which graphics chip the
   laptop has, and which of the built-in blobs to use.

Well, if udev has the database that connects the blob to the chip then
yes it does sounds likely but still a bit strange... I also have only
one blob (I dislike waste so I only put the correct blob in there). :-)

   So my laptop is now entirely udev-free.

Congratulations! :-D

PS. I will dive into this and test mdev soon-ish (when I can find the time).

Best regards

Peter K



Re: [gentoo-user] Question kernel upgrades for dracut users

2012-01-09 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
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On 09.01.2012 02:47, Dale wrote:
 Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: On 09.01.2012 01:34, Dale wrote:
 Howdy,
 
 I'm about to upgrade my kernel.  Do I have to update the
 init thingy too or should it work without updating with each
 kernel upgrade?  I would be going from a 3.1.5 to a
 3.2.0-r1.
 
 While I am at it, I version my bzImages.  Can I version my
 init thinys too?  Have one for each version of kernel in
 other words? That would be assuming I need to have it updated
 as asked above.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)
 
 
 Hi Dale,
 
 You can use your old init thingy if you don't need any modules 
 inside it. The other stuff normally doesn't change. Since most
 setups use modules, you could experience troubles...
 
 The other way would be - as you already proposed - to create an
 init thingy per kernel, eg initramfs-3.2.0-r1. If you use grub2
 the grub2-mkconfig script searches for these (matching the name for
 your kernel image) and normally it works out of the box. FOr grub
 legacy (and lilo, i assume) you would need to make matching entries
 manually.
 
 With kind regards,
 
 Hinnerk
 
 
 
 I'm on the old Grub.  I keep saying I'm going to switch but . . . .
 . . . If you are using the new grub, how difficult is the switch?
 Scale from one to ten would be fine.  1 being pulling teeth and 10
 a walk in the park and your eyes were closed. o_O
 
 I always keep a older boot line available so I will test this but I
 may version them anyway, just to be safe.  At least I know there is
 a chance that it would work if the init thingy didn't build
 correctly.  I tend to skip versions of kernels too.  Sometimes I go
 several versions.  Plus, honestly, I'm not even 100% sure I am
 booting the init thingy.  I posted a thread about it but no
 replies.  I'm about 95% sure tho that is is booting the init do
 hicky.  Can you tell I'm not really liking the init thingy yet?
 
 Does the dracut init mount /usr if it is on a separate partition or
 do I have to set something to tell it too?  Right now it's not but
 I do plan to redo my set up.  I'm planning to put everything on LVM
 except / and its friends.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)
 

I would say it's between 8 and 9 - both versions are slotted, so you
can install both at the same time. If you have trouble, you can reboot
from a install cd/usb-drive and reinstall legacy grub. I never had any
trouble with grub2 and I am using it since about 2 years, I think (at
least no non-handmade-trouble ;) ).
So I think it's easy.

If you have a line for the init thingy in your grub.cfg it should use
that or throw an error. If you use dracut according to a fedora-page
you can add rdshell rdinitdebug to your kernel commandline and see
dracut debugmessages and being dropped to a shell. maybe you could try
that.

Since I don't use dracut I'm not sure if it would mount a seperate
usr. A quick google search seems to indicate that you have to do
something manually: according to the last answer dracut tries to mount
usr if init is a path in /usr - so you could create a symlink and add
init=/usr/bin/init to your kernel commandline [1] - or use systemd
(it should reside in usr, shouldn't it?).




[1] http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/18057/dracut-and-separate-usr
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3

2012-01-09 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jan 9, 2012 3:24 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:

 On 2012-01-09 00:48, Walter Dnes wrote:

 Hm... if you didn't compile it in you would have needed an initrd;
 didn't think of that... :-(

  * with only one binary blob. it just works
 
  * multiple blobs should not be included in the kernel, otherwise it gets
confused.  If multiple blobs are included, there's a fallback
mechanism that uses udev to figure out exactly which graphics chip the
laptop has, and which of the built-in blobs to use.

 Well, if udev has the database that connects the blob to the chip then
 yes it does sounds likely but still a bit strange... I also have only
 one blob (I dislike waste so I only put the correct blob in there). :-)

So my laptop is now entirely udev-free.

 Congratulations! :-D

 PS. I will dive into this and test mdev soon-ish (when I can find the
time).

 Best regards

 Peter K


Is it possible to load the firmware blob after booting, from the shell?

Rgds,


Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources-3.2.0-r1 and genkernel

2012-01-09 Thread András Csányi
On 6 January 2012 11:11, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
 On 01/06/2012 10:51:26 AM, András Csányi wrote:
 Dear All,

 I updated my system and there is a new gentoo-sources version
 3.2.0-gentoo-r1. I reconfigured my system to use this kernel and I
 compiled the kernel with genkernel. But there is no compiled file
 under /boot directory. Did I missed something? Is there anything new
 in genkernel? Should I report it?

 What I did:
 - upgrade my system
 - set up the kernel using eselect
 - genkernel to compile the kernel


 Sorry, I can't help since I never use genkernel.
 E.g. for the update  3.2.0 - 3.2.0-r1

 I just do

 cp /usr/src/linux-3.2.0-gentoo/.config \
   /usr/src/linux-3.2.0-gentoo-r1/.config

 pushd /usr/src/linux-3.2.0-gentoo-r1
 make oldconfig
 make -j5

 cp arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/3.2.0-gentoo-r1
 make modules_install
 EDIT  /usr/src/grub/grub.conf

 rm /usr/src/linux
 ln -s /usr/src/linux-3.2.0-gentoo-r1 /usr/src/linux

 re-emerge some modules which look at /usr/src/linux, like  (in my case)
 x11-drivers/ati-drivers app-emulation/virtualbox-modules \
 sys-fs/fuse sys-power/powernowd x11-drivers/radeon-ucode \
 sys-process/iotop sys-fs/btrfs-progs

 Helmut.

Thanks Helmut, It's clear what you did. You know genkernel is a
comfortable way. :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 07:46:45 +0100, Hartmut Figge wrote:

 I have now verified this. Without esound i am getting
 
 Timestamp: 09.01.2012 07:18:12
 Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... Component returned failure
 code: 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE) [nsISound.play]  nsresult:
 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE)  location: JS frame ::
 chrome://communicator/content/pref/preferences.js :: PlaySound :: line
 99  data: no]

That looks like a configuration option. What happens when you use a
default profile?


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[gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Hartmut Figge
Neil Bothwick:
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 07:46:45 +0100, Hartmut Figge wrote:

 I have now verified this. Without esound i am getting
 
 Timestamp: 09.01.2012 07:18:12
 Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... Component returned failure
 code: 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE) [nsISound.play]  nsresult:
 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE)  location: JS frame ::
 chrome://communicator/content/pref/preferences.js :: PlaySound :: line
 99  data: no]

That looks like a configuration option.

No, it isn't.

What happens when you use a default profile?

Same exception with a fresh profile. Also when starting this fresh
profile in safe-mode.

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[gentoo-user] System hangs when enabling radeon power management

2012-01-09 Thread Blakawk

Hi folks !

I am facing a problem since a week now when enabling radeon power 
management following KMS Power Management Options [1]. I have two radeon 
HD 9770 on my system in crossfire configuration, but on Linux I only use 
one of them (the first one on the PCI bus).


When I switch the GPUs using the low profile, randomly, my system 
hangs. The problem is that I have nothing ! No kernel panic, no logs, 
really nothing. I tried everything, adding hard and soft lockup 
detection in the kernel did not help, I also enabled nmi_watchdog 
without success, tried kexec and kernel crash dumps either. I am getting 
to the point of booting the kernel using kgdb/kdb over a serial 
connection...


As radeon guys on the IRC #radeon channel seems to be muted on this 
point, I would like to know if anyone here can lead me through a way to 
help debugging this problem, as the consequence of staying in default 
power profile make my GPU burning around 70°C...


I can provide as many information as possible, and here is a little 
summary about my configuration:

- Gentoo sources 3.2.0-r1,
- in-kernel radeon module with KMS enabled,
- ~amd64 keyword.

Many thanks for your help.

[1] http://wiki.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature#KMS_Power_Management_Options

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Re: [gentoo-user] Question kernel upgrades for dracut users

2012-01-09 Thread Dale

Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote:

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I would say it's between 8 and 9 - both versions are slotted, so you
can install both at the same time. If you have trouble, you can reboot
from a install cd/usb-drive and reinstall legacy grub. I never had any
trouble with grub2 and I am using it since about 2 years, I think (at
least no non-handmade-trouble ;) ).
So I think it's easy.

If you have a line for the init thingy in your grub.cfg it should use
that or throw an error. If you use dracut according to a fedora-page
you can add rdshell rdinitdebug to your kernel commandline and see
dracut debugmessages and being dropped to a shell. maybe you could try
that.

Since I don't use dracut I'm not sure if it would mount a seperate
usr. A quick google search seems to indicate that you have to do
something manually: according to the last answer dracut tries to mount
usr if init is a path in /usr - so you could create a symlink and add
init=/usr/bin/init to your kernel commandline [1] - or use systemd
(it should reside in usr, shouldn't it?).




[1] http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/18057/dracut-and-separate-usr
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I was thinking it did mount /usr but wasn't sure.  Actually, I thought 
that was the point.  Thing is, I'm not sure either.  It seems when I 
built mine it read fstab.  Maybe it looks there to see if /usr is on a 
separate partition and if it is then it knows to mount /usr.  I dunno.  
I'll google some more tho.


I followed a couple howtos to get mine to work.  I'm not sure but I know 
one was on a Redhat or Fedora website.  I think the others came from a 
dracut site.


I just wanted to clear up some mud before I dived off into something.

I'll check you link too.

Thanks.

Dale

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[gentoo-user] OT crontab not understood

2012-01-09 Thread Daniel Troeder
Hi :)

It seems I don't understand something about cron(tab). Can someone help
me pls:

I want to run flexbackup with the following backup plan:
  * monthly full
  * weekly diff
  * daily incr

So I have installed sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r12 (and virtual/cron-0
and sys-process/cronbase-0.3.3).

My crontab (created with crontab -e) contains:

00 03 2-31 * 1-6 /usr/bin/flexbackup -set root -level incremental
00 03 2-31 * 0   /usr/bin/flexbackup -set root -level differential
00 03 1* *   /usr/bin/flexbackup -set root -level full

The problem I'm facing is, that incr and diff are executed each day
_both_ at the same time (which flexbackup luckily handles well).

From my understanding the 2nd line (diff) should only be run on sundays,
and the 1st line (inc) should not run sundays.


Can someone please explain me what I'm doing wrong?

Thank you,
Daniel

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Re: [gentoo-user] System hangs when enabling radeon power management

2012-01-09 Thread Blakawk

On 2012-01-09 11:51, Blakawk wrote:

Hi folks !

I am facing a problem since a week now when enabling radeon power
management following KMS Power Management Options [1]. I have two
radeon HD 9770 on my system in crossfire configuration, but on Linux 
I

only use one of them (the first one on the PCI bus).


I mistyped the GPU's model name: it is an HD 6770 Evergreen using 
JUNIPER firmware.



When I switch the GPUs using the low profile, randomly, my system
hangs. The problem is that I have nothing ! No kernel panic, no logs,
really nothing. I tried everything, adding hard and soft lockup
detection in the kernel did not help, I also enabled nmi_watchdog
without success, tried kexec and kernel crash dumps either. I am
getting to the point of booting the kernel using kgdb/kdb over a
serial connection...

As radeon guys on the IRC #radeon channel seems to be muted on this
point, I would like to know if anyone here can lead me through a way
to help debugging this problem, as the consequence of staying in
default power profile make my GPU burning around 70°C...

I can provide as many information as possible, and here is a little
summary about my configuration:
- Gentoo sources 3.2.0-r1,
- in-kernel radeon module with KMS enabled,
- ~amd64 keyword.

Many thanks for your help.

[1] http://wiki.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature#KMS_Power_Management_Options





[gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:
 Neil Bothwick:

That looks like a configuration option.
 
 No, it isn't.

I am now using the official SM 2.6.1 from mozilla.org. Same exception.
Also in a new profile. And i don't like the ugly new emoticons. *g*

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT crontab not understood

2012-01-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:10:50 +0100
Daniel Troeder dan...@admin-box.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 
 It seems I don't understand something about cron(tab). Can someone
 help me pls:
 
 I want to run flexbackup with the following backup plan:
   * monthly full
   * weekly diff
   * daily incr
 
 So I have installed sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r12 (and virtual/cron-0
 and sys-process/cronbase-0.3.3).
 
 My crontab (created with crontab -e) contains:
 
 00 03 2-31 * 1-6 /usr/bin/flexbackup -set root -level incremental
 00 03 2-31 * 0   /usr/bin/flexbackup -set root -level differential
 00 03 1* *   /usr/bin/flexbackup -set root -level full
 
 The problem I'm facing is, that incr and diff are executed each day
 _both_ at the same time (which flexbackup luckily handles well).
 
 From my understanding the 2nd line (diff) should only be run on
 sundays, and the 1st line (inc) should not run sundays.
 
 
 Can someone please explain me what I'm doing wrong?

You are combining fields 3 and 5, those two work funny.

Unlike the other datetime specs, they are not ANDed, they are ORed.

Taking the first one, you obviously want the cron to run at 3 am
between the 2nd and 31st of the month AND if the day is Mon-Sat.

What it is doing is running at 3am every day between the 2nd and 31st
and also every day Mon-Sat (even if that is the 1st of the month).

Vixie cron does not directly allow you to do what you want. It's
designed to run things periodically on a set schedule and doesn't do
except very well.

A better approach would be to fire off a wrapper script every day at
3am. This script will then check for date, time and day of week and
launch the app with the appropriate options. 

 
 Thank you,
 Daniel
 



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Re: [gentoo-user] OT crontab not understood

2012-01-09 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 09.01.2012 12:33, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:10:50 +0100
 Daniel Troeder dan...@admin-box.com wrote:
 
 Hi :)

 It seems I don't understand something about cron(tab). Can someone
 help me pls:

 I want to run flexbackup with the following backup plan:
   * monthly full
   * weekly diff
   * daily incr

 So I have installed sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r12 (and virtual/cron-0
 and sys-process/cronbase-0.3.3).

 My crontab (created with crontab -e) contains:

 00 03 2-31 * 1-6 /usr/bin/flexbackup -set root -level incremental
 00 03 2-31 * 0   /usr/bin/flexbackup -set root -level differential
 00 03 1* *   /usr/bin/flexbackup -set root -level full

 The problem I'm facing is, that incr and diff are executed each day
 _both_ at the same time (which flexbackup luckily handles well).

 From my understanding the 2nd line (diff) should only be run on
 sundays, and the 1st line (inc) should not run sundays.


 Can someone please explain me what I'm doing wrong?
 
 You are combining fields 3 and 5, those two work funny.
 
 Unlike the other datetime specs, they are not ANDed, they are ORed.
 
 Taking the first one, you obviously want the cron to run at 3 am
 between the 2nd and 31st of the month AND if the day is Mon-Sat.
 
 What it is doing is running at 3am every day between the 2nd and 31st
 and also every day Mon-Sat (even if that is the 1st of the month).
 
 Vixie cron does not directly allow you to do what you want. It's
 designed to run things periodically on a set schedule and doesn't do
 except very well.
 
 A better approach would be to fire off a wrapper script every day at
 3am. This script will then check for date, time and day of week and
 launch the app with the appropriate options. 
Thank you for the explanation!
Unfortunately that it's ORd :( 

So I wrote this:

### /etc/cron.daily/run_flexbackup ###

#!/bin/bash

DOM=$(date +%d)
DOW=$(date +%w)

function run_backup() {
# do some stuff
/usr/bin/flexbackup -set root -level $1
# do more stuff
}

if [ $DOM = 1 ]; then
run_backup full
else
if [ $DOW = 0 ]; then
run_backup differential
else
run_backup incremental
fi
fi


Bye,
Daniel

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT crontab not understood

2012-01-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:02:23 +0100
Daniel Troeder dan...@admin-box.com wrote:

 On 09.01.2012 12:33, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:10:50 +0100
  Daniel Troeder dan...@admin-box.com wrote:
  
  Hi :)
 
  It seems I don't understand something about cron(tab). Can someone
  help me pls:
 
  I want to run flexbackup with the following backup plan:
* monthly full
* weekly diff
* daily incr
 
  So I have installed sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r12 (and
  virtual/cron-0 and sys-process/cronbase-0.3.3).
 
  My crontab (created with crontab -e) contains:
 
  00 03 2-31 * 1-6 /usr/bin/flexbackup -set root -level
  incremental 00 03 2-31 * 0   /usr/bin/flexbackup -set root
  -level differential 00 03 1* *   /usr/bin/flexbackup -set
  root -level full
 
  The problem I'm facing is, that incr and diff are executed each day
  _both_ at the same time (which flexbackup luckily handles well).
 
  From my understanding the 2nd line (diff) should only be run on
  sundays, and the 1st line (inc) should not run sundays.
 
 
  Can someone please explain me what I'm doing wrong?
  
  You are combining fields 3 and 5, those two work funny.
  
  Unlike the other datetime specs, they are not ANDed, they are ORed.
  
  Taking the first one, you obviously want the cron to run at 3 am
  between the 2nd and 31st of the month AND if the day is Mon-Sat.
  
  What it is doing is running at 3am every day between the 2nd and
  31st and also every day Mon-Sat (even if that is the 1st of the
  month).
  
  Vixie cron does not directly allow you to do what you want. It's
  designed to run things periodically on a set schedule and doesn't do
  except very well.
  
  A better approach would be to fire off a wrapper script every day at
  3am. This script will then check for date, time and day of week and
  launch the app with the appropriate options. 



 Thank you for the explanation!
 Unfortunately that it's ORd :( 

It does make sense in a way :-)  The man page says:

Commands are executed by cron(8) when the minute, hour, and month of year 
fields
match the  current time,  and  when  at least one of the two day fields
(day of month, or day of week) match the current time.

If it didn't work as it does, a cron that specified both day fields
would equate to something like on the 1st of a month, but only if it's
a Sunday which is rare. The intention is that you use either the date
field or the day of week, but not both

 
 So I wrote this:
 
 ### /etc/cron.daily/run_flexbackup ###
 
 #!/bin/bash
 
 DOM=$(date +%d)
 DOW=$(date +%w)
 
 function run_backup() {
   # do some stuff
 /usr/bin/flexbackup -set root -level $1
   # do more stuff
 }
 
 if [ $DOM = 1 ]; then
 run_backup full
 else
 if [ $DOW = 0 ]; then
 run_backup differential
 else
 run_backup incremental
 fi
 fi

Yup, that's the better way. And it comes with the benefit that the cron
is now simple and the wrapper script documents how and what it runs.
Overall, a better solution i think.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Dale

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Hartmut Figge:

Neil Bothwick:

That looks like a configuration option.

No, it isn't.

I am now using the official SM 2.6.1 from mozilla.org. Same exception.
Also in a new profile. And i don't like the ugly new emoticons. *g*

Hartmut


I have Fluxbox installed here too.  I logged out of KDE and into 
Fluxbox.  Seamonkey does NOT play the sound when in Fluxbox.  It appears 
that KDE takes care of that when I am logged into it.  So, you may need 
to figure out how to make the GUI take care of yours.


This is from -dev.  Note the last paragraph:

Hi folks,

Today, I was shocked to find that the EsounD daemon is still in the tree 
and new ebuilds are actually still pulling it in under USE=esd!


Proposal: package.mask media-sound/esound, use.mask USE=esd. Anything 
that still uses it should stop using it. Anything that /needs it/ should 
be purged from the tree with extreme prejudice[1].


I'll do the first two today, and the rest of the rituals necessary to 
complete the exorcism will take a month. Help in this regard is welcome 
since the job is rather straightforward.


Thanks!

1. In exceptional cases, a dependency on pulseaudio will also suffice 
since pulseaudio emulates an esound socket while running with 
`module-protocol-esound-unix` loaded, which is the default.


-- ~Nirbheek Chauhan

Have you tried pulseaudio?  Also, it seems esound is a Gnome sort of 
thing.  Maybe see what they are using nowadays and try that.


Other than this, I have no other ideas.  It seems you need some sort of 
sound daemon.  Question is which one.


Dale

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[gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

I have Fluxbox installed here too.  I logged out of KDE and into 
Fluxbox.  Seamonkey does NOT play the sound when in Fluxbox.

:)

It appears that KDE takes care of that when I am logged into it. So,
you may need to figure out how to make the GUI take care of yours.

I seem to recall from the wine groups, that KDE uses pulseaudio. And
this one is causing a lot of trouble in wine.

This is from -dev.  Note the last paragraph:

Hi folks,

Today, I was shocked to find that the EsounD daemon is still in the tree 
and new ebuilds are actually still pulling it in under USE=esd!

Proposal: package.mask media-sound/esound, use.mask USE=esd. Anything 
that still uses it should stop using it. Anything that /needs it/ should 
be purged from the tree with extreme prejudice[1].

I'll do the first two today, and the rest of the rituals necessary to 
complete the exorcism will take a month. Help in this regard is welcome 
since the job is rather straightforward.

*URKS*. Hm, how to translate this one into English? *g*

Thanks!

1. In exceptional cases, a dependency on pulseaudio will also suffice 
since pulseaudio emulates an esound socket while running with 
`module-protocol-esound-unix` loaded, which is the default.

Have you tried pulseaudio?

No. And i do *not* want pulseaudio.

Also, it seems esound is a Gnome sort of thing.

It would be interesting to know, if Gnome is using pulseaudio...

Maybe see what they are using nowadays and try that.

...and if not, what else.

Other than this, I have no other ideas.  It seems you need some sort of 
sound daemon.  Question is which one.

Good question. :-D

Hartmut
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Dale

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Dale:


I have Fluxbox installed here too.  I logged out of KDE and into
Fluxbox.  Seamonkey does NOT play the sound when in Fluxbox.

:)


It appears that KDE takes care of that when I am logged into it. So,
you may need to figure out how to make the GUI take care of yours.

I seem to recall from the wine groups, that KDE uses pulseaudio. And
this one is causing a lot of trouble in wine.


I don't have pulseaudio installed here so my KDE is not using it.  I did 
some digging into the ebuilds.  KDE can use either pulseaudio or alsa.  
It appears mine is using alsa.  Maybe you should enable the alsa USE 
flag?  That should pull in alsa and rebuild the packages that can use 
it.  The command emerge -uaDN world should catch them all.





This is from -dev.  Note the last paragraph:

Hi folks,

Today, I was shocked to find that the EsounD daemon is still in the tree
and new ebuilds are actually still pulling it in under USE=esd!

Proposal: package.mask media-sound/esound, use.mask USE=esd. Anything
that still uses it should stop using it. Anything that /needs it/ should
be purged from the tree with extreme prejudice[1].

I'll do the first two today, and the rest of the rituals necessary to
complete the exorcism will take a month. Help in this regard is welcome
since the job is rather straightforward.

*URKS*. Hm, how to translate this one into English? *g*


Thanks!

1. In exceptional cases, a dependency on pulseaudio will also suffice
since pulseaudio emulates an esound socket while running with
`module-protocol-esound-unix` loaded, which is the default.
Have you tried pulseaudio?

No. And i do *not* want pulseaudio.


Then alsa should work.  Sort of covered that above.




Also, it seems esound is a Gnome sort of thing.

It would be interesting to know, if Gnome is using pulseaudio...


Maybe see what they are using nowadays and try that.

...and if not, what else.


Other than this, I have no other ideas.  It seems you need some sort of
sound daemon.  Question is which one.

Good question. :-D

Hartmut


I would try alsa.  It works fine here.  I can play music and still hear 
all the other sounds that come along, such as getting emails and such.  
I admit tho, I hate watching a movie then hearing other sounds.


Hope that helps.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Question kernel upgrades for dracut users

2012-01-09 Thread Dale

Dale wrote:


I was thinking it did mount /usr but wasn't sure.  Actually, I thought 
that was the point.  Thing is, I'm not sure either.  It seems when I 
built mine it read fstab.  Maybe it looks there to see if /usr is on a 
separate partition and if it is then it knows to mount /usr.  I 
dunno.  I'll google some more tho.


I followed a couple howtos to get mine to work.  I'm not sure but I 
know one was on a Redhat or Fedora website.  I think the others came 
from a dracut site.


I just wanted to clear up some mud before I dived off into something.

I'll check you link too.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)



OK.  For future readers.  There is a option called usrmount that tells 
it to mount /usr.  That little sucker was hiding from me for the 
longest.  I do wish dracut had some better docs.  I may have to write a 
howto myself.  If for no other reason than to remind myself how to make 
it work.  lol


Dale

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[gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

I would try alsa.  It works fine here.

Also here.

I can play music and still hear all the other sounds that come along,

Also here.

such as getting emails

That's the only one which doesn't work.

and such.

'and such' also works here. *g*

alsa is enabled in the kernel and i have these packages installed:

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ eix -I --only-names alsa
media-libs/alsa-lib
media-sound/alsa-headers
media-sound/alsa-utils
media-sound/alsaplayer

May it be that you have other packages regarding alsa installed also? If
the notification works for you and you are only using alsa, then
perhaps... :)

Hartmut
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[gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

Maybe you should enable the alsa USE flag?

alsa has been in make.conf ever. As for SM, i am not using an ebuild,
but here is an excerpt from the building of SM:

- build-log.txt -
checking for alsa... yes
checking MOZ_ALSA_CFLAGS... -I/usr/include/alsa
checking MOZ_ALSA_LIBS... -lasound
---
Hartmut
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Dale

Hartmut Figge wrote:

'and such' also works here. *g*

alsa is enabled in the kernel and i have these packages installed:

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ eix -I --only-names alsa
media-libs/alsa-lib
media-sound/alsa-headers
media-sound/alsa-utils
media-sound/alsaplayer

May it be that you have other packages regarding alsa installed also? If
the notification works for you and you are only using alsa, then
perhaps... :)

Hartmut


I have these installed:

root@fireball / # eix -I --only-names alsa
media-libs/alsa-lib
media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa
media-sound/alsa-headers
media-sound/alsa-utils
media-sound/alsamixergui
root@fireball / #

The difference is:  gst-plugins-alsa and alsamixergui.  I just wonder if 
alsamixer has something muted?  Have you ran alsamixer to check it?  It 
can run on a console.  You should have that installed already.  It is 
part of alsa-utils.  The master channel and the PCM channel is the 
important ones.  Be careful tho, it can play sounds that are pretty 
loud.  If it is muted, you can hit the M key to unmute it.  It toggles.


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Dale

Dale wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

'and such' also works here. *g*

alsa is enabled in the kernel and i have these packages installed:

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ eix -I --only-names alsa
media-libs/alsa-lib
media-sound/alsa-headers
media-sound/alsa-utils
media-sound/alsaplayer

May it be that you have other packages regarding alsa installed also? If
the notification works for you and you are only using alsa, then
perhaps... :)

Hartmut


I have these installed:

root@fireball / # eix -I --only-names alsa
media-libs/alsa-lib
media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa
media-sound/alsa-headers
media-sound/alsa-utils
media-sound/alsamixergui
root@fireball / #

The difference is:  gst-plugins-alsa and alsamixergui.  I just wonder 
if alsamixer has something muted?  Have you ran alsamixer to check 
it?  It can run on a console.  You should have that installed 
already.  It is part of alsa-utils.  The master channel and the PCM 
channel is the important ones.  Be careful tho, it can play sounds 
that are pretty loud.  If it is muted, you can hit the M key to unmute 
it.  It toggles.


Dale

:-)  :-)




Also, I don't know if this is done on a per user setting or system 
wide.  Make sure you run it as your user and not root.  Otherwise it may 
not work right.


Dale

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[gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

The difference is:  gst-plugins-alsa and alsamixergui.

None of them makes a difference. Sigh.

I just wonder if alsamixer has something muted?  Have you ran
alsamixer to check it?

Yes. All fine. Remember, that the notification works with esound. And a
muted channel would not cause an uncaught exception in the error console
of SM when pressing 'Play' in the Preferences of SM. ;)

I do not like alsamixergui at all. alsamixer is better. For me.

Now i have to make a break. Time to sleep. Till later then. :)

Hartmut
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[gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

2012-01-09 Thread James
Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes:


 Try Settings/Configure and then add new account, or fire up kcmshell4 
 kcm_akonadi and add resources as desired.

I had to use the settings-configureKorganizer-calenders
and then put the explict path into the config menu

~/.kde4/share/apps/korganizer/std.ics

to get the calender to show up. then select
the box in lower lefthand corner as suggested.

Never had to do that before.


 However, as the e-news item says KDEPIM 4.7 is really borked right now.

YEP!

 Most people have recommended to move to T'bird, Claws, or mutt.  

Tbird ++1!
great, easy, universal (doz) .

Thanks to all that replied!

James








[gentoo-user] Re: System hangs when enabling radeon power management

2012-01-09 Thread James
Blakawk blakawk at gentooist.com writes:


 I am facing a problem since a week now when enabling radeon power 
 management following KMS Power Management Options [1]. I have two radeon 

Well I cannot help you, explicitly; but I have some info to share with you.

I have 2 ethernet ports on an older Asus mobo. Until the 3.0 kernel series,
the booting process *always* selectrf the eth0 one correctly. Since
the 3.0 series, about 20% of boot it selects the second ethernet port
as eth0. I can move over the cable, or manually configure or reboot
and play roulette. I have not delved into the matter any deeper
as I'm swamped with issues.

might a udev rule help establish the correct card to use?
Have you tried to first set up (boot) the system without 
the crossfire confing(wiring)?

If that is the sort of phenomenon affecting you, you'd have to ssh
into the system and look at the boot files and records. Maybe setting
up the system to transmit via a console (serial) port might help
to look at the boot output as it occurs and step through the 
boot sequence.

hth,
James




[gentoo-user] Re: Network configuration - Two ips one from dhcp other static

2012-01-09 Thread James
Nilesh Govindarajan contact at nileshgr.com writes:


  Well, the title tells the question clearly; how do I configure network
  such that the first ip is obtained via dhcpcd and other is static?
  config_eth0=dhcp static doesn't work.

Did you look at /etc/conf.d/net.example  for hints?

  As a solution I wrote a dhcpcd hook containing /sbin/ifconfig eth0:0
  ip netmask netmask


Maybe not launch your script for a few minutes (timing?) via crontab
if nothing else works?


James







Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xpdf - missing fonts

2012-01-09 Thread Joseph

On 01/08/12 19:31, Walter Dnes wrote:

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 08:40:04PM -0700, Joseph wrote

On 01/06/12 13:51, walt wrote:

Try turning the NLS useflag on for your installed font packages that use
NLS.  Not all font packages use NLS, dunno why.  To see which installed
fonts use NLS:

#eix -IU nls | grep fonts

Aparenlty none of them:

eix -IU nls | grep fonts
[I] media-fonts/font-misc-misc
  Description: X.Org miscellaneous fonts


 I have a suggestion that goes in the opposite direction.  It's part of
bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368335

 For some reason, the default is now to generate Unicode encoding only
(I believe it's iso10646), not iso8859-1 or any of the other local
encodings.  I ran into this when xfreecell refused to start, due to
missing a specific iso8859-1 font.  The bug can be worked around by
editing the file /usr/portage/eclass/xorg-2.eclass  I'm attaching my
edited version.

* Rename your current /usr/portage/eclass/xorg-2.eclass
* substitute the version attached to this post
* re-emerge all your fonts

 ***NOTE*** This eclass file tries to produce iso8859-1 only.  Modify
it if you want other iso code files.

 File attached...

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I think you are correct on this one. 
I'll try to modify your system.  
What is the easiest way to re-emerge all the fonts on the system or list the one that are installed?


I've manually installed some of the fonts that I have on my other system and it partially solved the problem. 


--
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Re: [gentoo-user] System hangs when enabling radeon power management

2012-01-09 Thread Sebastian Beßler


On 09.01.2012 12:11, Blakawk wrote:
 On 2012-01-09 11:51, Blakawk wrote:
 Hi folks !

 I am facing a problem since a week now when enabling radeon power
 management following KMS Power Management Options [1]. I have two
 radeon HD 9770 on my system in crossfire configuration, but on Linux I
 only use one of them (the first one on the PCI bus).
 
 I mistyped the GPU's model name: it is an HD 6770 Evergreen using
 JUNIPER firmware.

I have a almost identical problem with my radeon card and KMS.
If I build radeon not as a module but inside I only see a black screen
and the system hangs.
Firmware is correctly build into the kernel (I switched from an older
radeon card where everything worked so I know what to do) but it does
not work.

I have to build radeon as a module and load it at startup.

In /etc/conf.d/modules I have
module_radeon_args=modeset=1
so that KMS gets loaded.

With that setup everything works just fine (short of a flicker when
KMS gets started) so I keep it that way for now.

Maybe that works for you too. It is worth a try.

Greetings

Sebastian



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[gentoo-user] Re: OT crontab not understood

2012-01-09 Thread James
Daniel Troeder daniel at admin-box.com writes:

  So I have installed sys-process/vixie-cron


Ah, excellent. Just so you know, Paul Vixie
is one of the un_sung heros of the the internet.

just look up Paul Vixie on wikepedia and you'll quickly
realize that he is one of the Titans that has worked
tirelessly over the decades to make the internet
what it is today.

Some think of him as the daddy of DNS
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110825/23232315691/paul-vixie-explains-how-protect-ip-will-break-internet.shtml

hth,

James






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System hangs when enabling radeon power management

2012-01-09 Thread Blakawk
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Le 09/01/2012 17:48, James a écrit :
 Blakawk blakawk at gentooist.com writes:
 I am facing a problem since a week now when enabling radeon power
  management following KMS Power Management Options [1]. I have
 two radeon
 
 Well I cannot help you, explicitly; but I have some info to share
 with you.
 
 I have 2 ethernet ports on an older Asus mobo. Until the 3.0 kernel
 series, the booting process *always* selectrf the eth0 one
 correctly. Since the 3.0 series, about 20% of boot it selects the
 second ethernet port as eth0. I can move over the cable, or
 manually configure or reboot and play roulette. I have not delved
 into the matter any deeper as I'm swamped with issues.
 
 might a udev rule help establish the correct card to use? Have you
 tried to first set up (boot) the system without the crossfire
 confing(wiring)?
 
 If that is the sort of phenomenon affecting you, you'd have to ssh 
 into the system and look at the boot files and records. Maybe
 setting up the system to transmit via a console (serial) port might
 help to look at the boot output as it occurs and step through the 
 boot sequence.

With or without crossfire, I encounter the problem, and the graphic
card in slot number one is always the one taking over.

Also, I already set up a console over serial port, but nothing gets
out when the system hangs. That's why i am now at the point of running
the kernel under GDB. Also, I want to say that the problem does not
occur on boot phase at all, everything goes just fine until I activate
any other power profile than 'default' one on the radeon card using:
# echo '(low|mid|high)'  /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile

Then, once power management activated, the system randomly hangs
*AFTER* a various amount of time, requiring a hard reboot.

 hth, James

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Re: [gentoo-user] System hangs when enabling radeon power management

2012-01-09 Thread Blakawk
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Le 09/01/2012 18:57, Sebastian Beßler a écrit :
 On 09.01.2012 12:11, Blakawk wrote:
 On 2012-01-09 11:51, Blakawk wrote:
 Hi folks !
 
 I am facing a problem since a week now when enabling radeon
 power management following KMS Power Management Options [1]. I
 have two radeon HD 9770 on my system in crossfire
 configuration, but on Linux I only use one of them (the first
 one on the PCI bus).
 
 I mistyped the GPU's model name: it is an HD 6770 Evergreen
 using JUNIPER firmware.
 
 I have a almost identical problem with my radeon card and KMS. If I
 build radeon not as a module but inside I only see a black screen 
 and the system hangs. Firmware is correctly build into the kernel
 (I switched from an older radeon card where everything worked so I
 know what to do) but it does not work.
 
 I have to build radeon as a module and load it at startup.
 
 In /etc/conf.d/modules I have module_radeon_args=modeset=1 so
 that KMS gets loaded.
 
 With that setup everything works just fine (short of a flicker
 when KMS gets started) so I keep it that way for now.

I'm trying to reproduce the bug using radeon and DRM stuff built as a
module instead. Did you enabled power management too with the following:
# echo '(low|mid|high)'  /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile

For me, as soon as I enable this, the system hangs randomly (meaning
it can hangs right after enabling the feature or several hours later).

 Maybe that works for you too. It is worth a try.
 
 Greetings
 
 Sebastian

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3

2012-01-09 Thread pk
On 2012-01-09 10:47, Pandu Poluan wrote:

 Is it possible to load the firmware blob after booting, from the shell?

I don't think so; KMS needs it to talk to the gpu so either it needs to
be in an initrd (loaded with the KMS/framebuffer module) or compiled in.
That's how I understand it anyway...

Best regards

Peter K



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3

2012-01-09 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 04:47:22PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote

 Is it possible to load the firmware blob after booting, from the shell?

  I don't think so.  These are not standard kernel modules (*.o) files.

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Re: [gentoo-user] System hangs when enabling radeon power management

2012-01-09 Thread Blakawk
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Le 09/01/2012 19:47, Blakawk a écrit :
 Le 09/01/2012 18:57, Sebastian Beßler a écrit :
 On 09.01.2012 12:11, Blakawk wrote:
 On 2012-01-09 11:51, Blakawk wrote:
 Hi folks !
 
 I am facing a problem since a week now when enabling radeon 
 power management following KMS Power Management Options [1].
 I have two radeon HD 9770 on my system in crossfire 
 configuration, but on Linux I only use one of them (the
 first one on the PCI bus).
 
 I mistyped the GPU's model name: it is an HD 6770 Evergreen 
 using JUNIPER firmware.
 
 I have a almost identical problem with my radeon card and KMS. If
 I build radeon not as a module but inside I only see a black
 screen and the system hangs. Firmware is correctly build into the
 kernel (I switched from an older radeon card where everything
 worked so I know what to do) but it does not work.
 
 I have to build radeon as a module and load it at startup.
 
 In /etc/conf.d/modules I have module_radeon_args=modeset=1 so 
 that KMS gets loaded.
 
 With that setup everything works just fine (short of a flicker 
 when KMS gets started) so I keep it that way for now.
 
 I'm trying to reproduce the bug using radeon and DRM stuff built as
 a module instead. Did you enabled power management too with the
 following: # echo '(low|mid|high)' 
 /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile
 
 For me, as soon as I enable this, the system hangs randomly
 (meaning it can hangs right after enabling the feature or several
 hours later).
 
 Maybe that works for you too. It is worth a try.

Ok tried with radeon compiled as a module, did not help... Running the
kernel under kgdb did not help either, it seems there is no kernel
panic at all, even NMI watchdog / hung tasks detector is not seeing
anything... I am kind of lost now :( If someone has an idea, I put the
necessary information here [1].

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

[1] http://gentooist.com/~xavier/gentoo/radeon-pwm-hang/

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[gentoo-user] Re: xpdf - missing fonts

2012-01-09 Thread walt
On 01/09/2012 09:50 AM, Joseph wrote:
 What is the easiest way to re-emerge all the fonts on the system or
 list the one that are installed?

Listing them is easy:
#eix -I | grep media-fonts

I'll bet there is some other tool that will also emerge all of them
for you but I'm too lazy to do the research :p






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xpdf - missing fonts

2012-01-09 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 5:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 01/09/2012 09:50 AM, Joseph wrote:
 What is the easiest way to re-emerge all the fonts on the system or
 list the one that are installed?

 Listing them is easy:
 #eix -I | grep media-fonts

 I'll bet there is some other tool that will also emerge all of them
 for you but I'm too lazy to do the research :p

emerge -1 $(qlist -IC media-fonts/*) # For the lazy


-- 
:wq



[gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread walt
On 01/09/2012 04:46 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 It would be interesting to know, if Gnome is using pulseaudio...

Unfortunately yes.  They seem determined to shove pulse down our
throats just like everyone else, and for no good reason that I
can see.  Yes, maybe some people need a sound daemon but I never
have and never will.  The pulse devs should go work for world
peace or something I can use :p




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xpdf - missing fonts

2012-01-09 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 10:50:28AM -0700, Joseph wrote

 I think you are correct on this one.  I'll try to modify your system.
 What is the easiest way to re-emerge all the fonts on the system or
 list the one that are installed?
 
 I've manually installed some of the fonts that I have on my other
 system and it partially solved the problem.

  I've attached a bash script to list all files, including those pulled
in as dependancies of xorg-server.  It also sets up another bash script
to do the actual emerge.  Here's how it works...

* It creates a bash script ef (emerge fonts)

* First put in the #!/bin/bash

* Add emerge -1  to the file.  *NOTE* The -n option prevents the
  normal linefeed

* emerge -pv --depclean lists (amongst other things) all installed
  packages.  This includes both stuff in world, and stuff that is pulled
  in as a dependancy

* grep media-fonts filters the listing down to the media-fonts
  group, including various font utilities.

* sort -u filters out duplicate lines

* 'grep -v pulled in by' gets rid of the pulled in by lines.

* The sed command puts an = sign in front of each package name, to
  make it a valid emerge parameter

* the tr command converts linefeeds to spaces.  The string of
  packagenames is appended to emerge -1  in the file ef

* last, but not least, the file ef is set executable.  You can look at
  it before launching it.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
#!/bin/bash
echo #!/bin/bash  ef
echo -n emerge -1   ef
emerge -pv --depclean | \
  grep media-fonts | \
  sort -u | \
  grep -v pulled in by | \
  sed s//=/ |\
  tr '\n' ' '  ef
chmod 744 ef


Re: [gentoo-user] How to get raid

2012-01-09 Thread Jeff Cranmer

  
  
  
 Success - I managed to get a raid1 device operating.  
 I created the final filesystem by using mkfs.xfs -f /dev/md0, then
 waited for the rebuild to complete before rebooting the system.
 
 It appears to be created successfully.  Now I'll try the same sequence
 with sdb and sdc to see if sdc is a good disk.  If that works, I'll
 retry a raid5 array tomorrow night.
 
Hmm - it seems to be a bug in RAID5 creation.
I can successfully create a RAID1 array either 
/dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdc1 or 
/dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdd1

If, however, I try to create a RAID5 array with all three elements, I
get /dev/sdc reporting a failure.

cat /proc/mdstat fails with the following report.

Personalities : [linear] [raid0] [raid1] [raid10] [raid6] [raid5]
[raid4] [multipath] 
md0 : active raid5 sdd1[3](S) sdc1[1](F) sdb1[0]
  2930272256 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/1]
[U__]
  
unused devices: none

Has anyone else experienced similar problems?  Is there an extra
diagnostic procedure which I can use to validate the sdc drive?

Is there something extra I have to do when I go over the 2TB level which
could explain this goofy behaviour?





[gentoo-user] Horrible TrueCrypt performance

2012-01-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Hi there!

I have to copy some 100 G of files from one to another USB drive. Both
are formatted with NTFS, the destination drive already has a truecrypt
container file where I need to store the data into.

This is sort of working, but the speed is waa too slow. After about
four hours, only 8 G were copied.

Looking at the cp -r output shows I see a bunch of files being
processed, then the output stops for some minutes. Sometimes for half an
hour.

Top shows the mount.ntfs-3g process writing to the destination using all
resources of one of my two cores. iotop -d 10 shows this process mainly.
What I find strange is that this process is also reading from the drive
I am copying to, 1600 K/s compared to 260 K/s writing speed. Huh?? And
sometimes there is no I/O from this process during the ten seconds of
sampling time. I sampled for about half an hour, and iotop -oa shows
that only 20 MB were written. This will never finish.

I used this command to mount the truecrypt container:
truecrypt --fs-options=uid=1000,umask=0007 -k /home/wonko/my.key
/media/My USB Drive/my_container /mnt
Adding 'async' to the fs-options did not help.

Any ideas? I've never used TrueCrypt before.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] How to get raid

2012-01-09 Thread Jeff Cranmer

  
  Me too.
  
  mdadm --detail /dev/md0 thinks that /dev/sdc1 is faulty.
  I'm not sure whether it's really faulty, or just that my setup for RAID
  is screwed up.
  
  How do I get rid of an existing /dev/md0?
 
 you stop it. Override the superblock with dd.. and lose all data on the disks.
 
 
  
  I'm thinking that I can try creating a RAID1 array using the two
  allegedly good disks and see if I can make that work.
 
 yeah
 
  
  If that works, I'll get rid of it and try recreating the RAID1 with one
  good disk and the one that mdadm thinks is faulty.
  
 
 you don't have to. You can migrate a 2 disk raid1 to a 3 disk raid5. Howtos 
 are availble via google.
 
 
 just saying - box in suspend to ram. I change the cable (and connector on 
 mobo) on a disk with two raid 1 partitions on it.
 
 One came back after starting the box.
 
 The other? Nothing I tried worked. At the end I dd'ed the partition.. and did 
 a complete 'faulty disk/replacement' resync
 
 argl.
 
 
OK, so lesson learned.  Just because it builds correctly in a RAID1
array, that doesn't mean that the drive isn't toast.

I ran badblocks on the three drive components and, surprise,
surprise, /dev/sdc came up faulty.  I think I'll just build the two
non-faulty drives as a RAID0 array until the hard drive prices come back
down to pre-Thailand flood prices and backup regularly.

Thanks for all the help.

Jeff





[gentoo-user] ntpd crashing

2012-01-09 Thread Jeff Cranmer
Hi,

Can anyone give me any pointers as to how to diagnose a problem with
ntpd crashing.  My time keeps defaulting to 5 hours earlier than it
should.

There's nothing in dmesg when I do dmesg | grep time, or dmesg | grep
ntp, but /etc/init.d/ntpd status tells me that ntpd has crashed.

Jeff





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Network configuration - Two ips one from dhcp other static

2012-01-09 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Mon 09 Jan 2012 10:44:02 PM IST, James wrote:
 Nilesh Govindarajan contact at nileshgr.com writes:


 Well, the title tells the question clearly; how do I configure network
 such that the first ip is obtained via dhcpcd and other is static?
 config_eth0=dhcp static doesn't work.

 Did you look at /etc/conf.d/net.example  for hints?

 As a solution I wrote a dhcpcd hook containing /sbin/ifconfig eth0:0
 ip netmask netmask


 Maybe not launch your script for a few minutes (timing?) via crontab
 if nothing else works?


 James






I did read that. I'm pretty peculiar about reading docs, so that I 
don't have to face an RTFM from the ML or IRC ;-)
The first time it didn't work properly. The second time it did. May be 
I'd made some mistake or so.

-- 
Nilesh Govindarajan
http://nileshgr.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Dale

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Hartmut Figge:



Now, installation of esound was necessary for my SeaMonkey to be able to
notify of new mail with a custom sound file. I do *not* want pulseaudio,
so, do you know of an replacement for esound which could work with
SeaMonkey?

Summary of the thread:

Without esound there is an uncaught exception when trying to play a
custom sound in Preferences-Mail  Newsgroups-Notification even with
the official builds of SM from mozilla.org.

Timestamp: 09.01.2012 07:18:12
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... Component returned failure
code: 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE) [nsISound.play]  nsresult:
0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE)  location: JS frame ::
chrome://communicator/content/pref/preferences.js :: PlaySound :: line
99  data: no]

The solution may be using pulseaudio. On the other hand, removing
pulseaudio is usually one of the first recommendations in the wine
groups when problems occur. ;)

Now, removing esound is no longer a problem for gentoo-user. I may take
it upstream to mozilla.org.

Hartmut


When you take it upstream, tell them it doesn't work in Fluxbox plus the 
GUI you are using.  It may help them narrow down the problem.


Dale

:-)  :-)

--
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how 
you interpreted my words!

Miss the compile output?  Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n




[gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:
Hartmut Figge wrote:

 Now, removing esound is no longer a problem for gentoo-user. I may take
 it upstream to mozilla.org.

When you take it upstream, tell them it doesn't work in Fluxbox plus the 
GUI you are using.  It may help them narrow down the problem.

*If*, not *when*. ;)

Hartmut, lazy
-- 
Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/
Von Usern fuer User  :-)




Re: [gentoo-user] ntpd crashing

2012-01-09 Thread W.Kenworthy
Define crashing?

This looks more like problems with yout TZ variables than ntpd.

try ntpq -p to check if its actually running/locked.  If ntpd is
freewheeling, it is prpbably because your time is too far from lock so
it will silently fail (default config).

If ntpd has really crashed (ps aux will confirm), try running the daemon
manually from a console - if it segfaults or comes up with a missing
library, try ldd /usr/sbin/ntpd to find which lib is needed and fix.

BillK



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Cranmer j...@lotussevencars.com
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] ntpd crashing
Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 16:25:39 -0500

Hi,

Can anyone give me any pointers as to how to diagnose a problem with
ntpd crashing.  My time keeps defaulting to 5 hours earlier than it
should.

There's nothing in dmesg when I do dmesg | grep time, or dmesg | grep
ntp, but /etc/init.d/ntpd status tells me that ntpd has crashed.

Jeff







[gentoo-user] Re: removal of esound

2012-01-09 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:


Now, installation of esound was necessary for my SeaMonkey to be able to
notify of new mail with a custom sound file. I do *not* want pulseaudio,
so, do you know of an replacement for esound which could work with
SeaMonkey?

Summary of the thread:

Without esound there is an uncaught exception when trying to play a
custom sound in Preferences-Mail  Newsgroups-Notification even with
the official builds of SM from mozilla.org.

Timestamp: 09.01.2012 07:18:12
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... Component returned failure
code: 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE) [nsISound.play]  nsresult:
0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE)  location: JS frame ::
chrome://communicator/content/pref/preferences.js :: PlaySound :: line
99  data: no]

The solution may be using pulseaudio. On the other hand, removing
pulseaudio is usually one of the first recommendations in the wine
groups when problems occur. ;)

Now, removing esound is no longer a problem for gentoo-user. I may take
it upstream to mozilla.org.

Hartmut
-- 
Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/
Von Usern fuer User  :-)




Re: [gentoo-user] How to get raid

2012-01-09 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jan 10, 2012 8:48 AM, Jeff Cranmer j...@lotussevencars.com wrote:


  
   Me too.
  
   mdadm --detail /dev/md0 thinks that /dev/sdc1 is faulty.
   I'm not sure whether it's really faulty, or just that my setup for
RAID
   is screwed up.
  
   How do I get rid of an existing /dev/md0?
 
  you stop it. Override the superblock with dd.. and lose all data on the
disks.
 
 
  
   I'm thinking that I can try creating a RAID1 array using the two
   allegedly good disks and see if I can make that work.
 
  yeah
 
  
   If that works, I'll get rid of it and try recreating the RAID1 with
one
   good disk and the one that mdadm thinks is faulty.
  
 
  you don't have to. You can migrate a 2 disk raid1 to a 3 disk raid5.
Howtos
  are availble via google.
 
 
  just saying - box in suspend to ram. I change the cable (and connector
on
  mobo) on a disk with two raid 1 partitions on it.
 
  One came back after starting the box.
 
  The other? Nothing I tried worked. At the end I dd'ed the partition..
and did
  a complete 'faulty disk/replacement' resync
 
  argl.
 
 
 OK, so lesson learned.  Just because it builds correctly in a RAID1
 array, that doesn't mean that the drive isn't toast.

 I ran badblocks on the three drive components and, surprise,
 surprise, /dev/sdc came up faulty.  I think I'll just build the two
 non-faulty drives as a RAID0 array until the hard drive prices come back
 down to pre-Thailand flood prices and backup regularly.

 Thanks for all the help.

 Jeff




RAID 0?!?!

Please reconsider.

With RAID 0, *any* single drive failure will result in *total* data loss.

Rgds,


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT crontab not understood

2012-01-09 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jan 10, 2012 1:35 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:

 Daniel Troeder daniel at admin-box.com writes:

   So I have installed sys-process/vixie-cron


 Ah, excellent. Just so you know, Paul Vixie
 is one of the un_sung heros of the the internet.

 just look up Paul Vixie on wikepedia and you'll quickly
 realize that he is one of the Titans that has worked
 tirelessly over the decades to make the internet
 what it is today.

 Some think of him as the daddy of DNS

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110825/23232315691/paul-vixie-explains-how-protect-ip-will-break-internet.shtml

 hth,

 James


Whoa, I didn't realize that...

Now I'm considering migrating from dcron to vixie-cron...

Thanks for the reminder! :-)

Rgds,