[gentoo-user] Konsole colours have changed
Hello list, The recent kde-apps upgrade changed the colours used by konsole, In particular, the black background is no longer black, but a sort of washed-out charcoal grey. I compared the /usr/share/konsole/Linux.colorscheme file with an earlier version, but they were the same Is there somewhere else I can check? -- Regards, Peter.
[gentoo-user] konsole: strange behaviour regarding profile
Hi there, I use to have several different KDE/plasma activities configured, each with different folder view widgets with desktop icons inside for the applications which I use on these activities. Especially, there are some icons with Exec=konsole -e slogin alex@server to have quick access to my server; other icons have root@router, root@server, root@laptop, etc. The strange behaviour is now, when I start konsole from the launcher (i.e. with no -e argument) , it opens a konsole with the last successful login and not, as I expect, on the local system as my current local user. I could even reproduce it by opening the launcher and type konsole -e slogin alex@server As expected, a konsole with login as alex@server is opened. Next, start konsole without any arguments, and slogin alex@server is executed automatically. How can I turn this off and get the behaviour that konsole without -e arguments opens a window with a simple shell at the local machine? Best regards Alex
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole
On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:19:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > Is this what KDE officialdom now requires or can Gentoo work around it ? > My understanding was that KDE is now a 'software collection', Actually, that label was applied to KDE4! -- Neil Bothwick Uhura: Captain, you're being flamed on channel one. pgpwTALtdwnQC.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole
On 10/07/2016 21:19, Philip Webb wrote:
160711 konsolebox wrote:
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Philip Webb wrote:
What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ?
root:508 ~> eix konsole
[U?] kde-apps/konsole
Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test}
Installed versions: 4.14.3(4/4.14)^t([2015-10-07 13:08:42])(handbook -aqua
-debug -minimal -test)
Description: KDE's terminal emulator
Are we going to be forced to install the whole of KDE 5
if we want to go on using some very useful KDE apps ?
It was removed 17 days ago. No reason was mentioned.
https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/commit/581d3a57fb642a5b567b3b6fc6e80ef9daf38f6f
Oh dear ! -- another bug to open (grimace) ?
'emerge konsole' wants to install 107 pkgs, incl 87 new ones ;
among them are sound software + Ruby.
Is this what KDE officialdom now requires or can Gentoo work around it ?
My understanding was that KDE is now a 'software collection',
which allows users to pick whichever pieces they prefer : has that changed ?
I really can't give proper answer to your whinge-rant without at least
the output of emerge with -t
The bulk of those packages are probably kde frameworks and plasma. It's
hard to run konsole-5 without them. You're getting sound because that's
quite a normal to put on a desktop, and ruby because some package in
world is a ruby script. And the packages are lots of small ones, very
few huge monolithic packages left in Gentoo's KDE ebuilds. And yes, you
very much CAN pick and choose kde-apps individually, but you don't get
to choose if you want to install the deps or not
Konsole:4 is moved to kde-sunset, enable that overlay and get things
back as they were 17 days ago
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole
160711 konsolebox wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Philip Webb wrote:
>> What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ?
>> root:508 ~> eix konsole
>> [U?] kde-apps/konsole
>> Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test}
>> Installed versions: 4.14.3(4/4.14)^t([2015-10-07 13:08:42])(handbook
>> -aqua -debug -minimal -test)
>> Description: KDE's terminal emulator
>> Are we going to be forced to install the whole of KDE 5
>> if we want to go on using some very useful KDE apps ?
> It was removed 17 days ago. No reason was mentioned.
> https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/commit/581d3a57fb642a5b567b3b6fc6e80ef9daf38f6f
Oh dear ! -- another bug to open (grimace) ?
'emerge konsole' wants to install 107 pkgs, incl 87 new ones ;
among them are sound software + Ruby.
Is this what KDE officialdom now requires or can Gentoo work around it ?
My understanding was that KDE is now a 'software collection',
which allows users to pick whichever pieces they prefer : has that changed ?
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,,
SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb
ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto
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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole
On 10/07/2016 20:54, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:44:45 -0400 Philip Webb wrote:
What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ?
root:508 ~> eix konsole
[U?] kde-apps/konsole
Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test}
Installed versions: 4.14.3(4/4.14)^t([2015-10-07 13:08:42])(handbook
-aqua -debug -minimal -test)
Description: KDE's terminal emulator
Are we going to be forced to install the whole of KDE 5
if we want to go on using some very useful KDE apps ?
Or was it dropped by mistake ?
I suppose kde:4 was purged from the tree.
Was it moved to kde-sunset or some similar place? I don't remember
seeing any comms/notice/warning of kde-4 removal
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole
Hi,
On Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:44:45 -0400 Philip Webb wrote:
> What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ?
>
> root:508 ~> eix konsole
> [U?] kde-apps/konsole
> Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test}
> Installed versions: 4.14.3(4/4.14)^t([2015-10-07 13:08:42])(handbook
> -aqua -debug -minimal -test)
> Description: KDE's terminal emulator
>
> Are we going to be forced to install the whole of KDE 5
> if we want to go on using some very useful KDE apps ?
>
> Or was it dropped by mistake ?
I suppose kde:4 was purged from the tree.
Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko
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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 3:44 AM, Philip Webb wrote:
> What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ?
>
> root:508 ~> eix konsole
> [U?] kde-apps/konsole
> Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test}
> Installed versions: 4.14.3(4/4.14)^t([2015-10-07 13:08:42])(handbook
> -aqua -debug -minimal -test)
> Description: KDE's terminal emulator
>
> Are we going to be forced to install the whole of KDE 5
> if we want to go on using some very useful KDE apps ?
>
> Or was it dropped by mistake ?
>
It was removed 17 days ago. No reason was mentioned.
https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/commit/581d3a57fb642a5b567b3b6fc6e80ef9daf38f6f
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konsolebox
[gentoo-user] Konsole
What has happened to Konsole:4/4.14 ?
root:508 ~> eix konsole
[U?] kde-apps/konsole
Available versions: (5) 15.12.3 ~16.04.2 {X debug +handbook test}
Installed versions: 4.14.3(4/4.14)^t([2015-10-07 13:08:42])(handbook -aqua
-debug -minimal -test)
Description: KDE's terminal emulator
Are we going to be forced to install the whole of KDE 5
if we want to go on using some very useful KDE apps ?
Or was it dropped by mistake ?
--
,,
SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb
ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!
On Friday 26 Oct 2012 09:35:44 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:27:05 +0100, Mick wrote: > > > It is also stated in the emerge output that you need to add > > > udev-mount to the sysinit runlevel. > > > > I saw that too, but did not add udev-mount to any runlevel. I guess > > this is a problem only if /usr is on another partition than root, or is > > it going to hit me at a later update? > > I don't think that's it. I deliberately tried leaving it out to see what > happened and I lost my Konsoles, but this box has a separate /usr mounted > by initramfs. The udev-mount script mounts /dev, so the problem would > have been caused by a missing device node. I did not add udev-mount on 3 different machines, only one of which runs the full KDE enchilada. That's the one that seems to be experiencing some problems lately - like printing causes the *printer* to crash. Also occasionally the desktop will not load sitting there at the last login icon of kdm. Perhaps I should add it and see if it makes a difference. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:27:05 +0100, Mick wrote: > > It is also stated in the emerge output that you need to add > > udev-mount to the sysinit runlevel. > > I saw that too, but did not add udev-mount to any runlevel. I guess > this is a problem only if /usr is on another partition than root, or is > it going to hit me at a later update? I don't think that's it. I deliberately tried leaving it out to see what happened and I lost my Konsoles, but this box has a separate /usr mounted by initramfs. The udev-mount script mounts /dev, so the problem would have been caused by a missing device node. -- Neil Bothwick Being defeated is a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!
On 10/24/2012 08:02 AM, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > On 10/24/2012 04:31 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote: >> Hi all, >> I did an "emerge -NuD world", it nearly finished, 2 or 3 big files to >> go, when I decided it was bed time. I killed the build and went to bed. >> This morning I can't now fire up Konsole, which I use as my terminal, >> XTerm or UXTerm. >> >> In more detail, I get the Konsole window, the menu is there and I can >> open other tabs etc, but instead of the command prompt, I just get a >> small grey blob in the top left hand corner. Hitting return does not get >> me any carriage returns. >> > > Same here on two different boxes, ~x86 and ~amd64. I'm on LXDE, > ~/.lxde_errors reports that rxvt could not start due to lack of > pseudo-terminals. Issuing ># mount /dev/pts > by hand temporarily solves the issue. > > A related issue might be that during the boot I see that /dev/shm could > not be mounted. /dev/pts and /dev/shm are both mounted by > /etc/init.d/devfs, maybe that's failing? > > The last emerge pulled in > sys-apps/openrc-0.11.1 > sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-17-r1 > > but neither one has any bugs open relevant to this. Other ideas? > > raf > Forgot to mention that you can issue the mount command above from a text terminal (CTRL-ALT-Fx).
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!
On 10/24/2012 04:31 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote: > Hi all, > I did an "emerge -NuD world", it nearly finished, 2 or 3 big files to > go, when I decided it was bed time. I killed the build and went to bed. > This morning I can't now fire up Konsole, which I use as my terminal, > XTerm or UXTerm. > > In more detail, I get the Konsole window, the menu is there and I can > open other tabs etc, but instead of the command prompt, I just get a > small grey blob in the top left hand corner. Hitting return does not get > me any carriage returns. > Same here on two different boxes, ~x86 and ~amd64. I'm on LXDE, ~/.lxde_errors reports that rxvt could not start due to lack of pseudo-terminals. Issuing # mount /dev/pts by hand temporarily solves the issue. A related issue might be that during the boot I see that /dev/shm could not be mounted. /dev/pts and /dev/shm are both mounted by /etc/init.d/devfs, maybe that's failing? The last emerge pulled in sys-apps/openrc-0.11.1 sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-17-r1 but neither one has any bugs open relevant to this. Other ideas? raf
[gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!
Hi all, I did an "emerge -NuD world", it nearly finished, 2 or 3 big files to go, when I decided it was bed time. I killed the build and went to bed. This morning I can't now fire up Konsole, which I use as my terminal, XTerm or UXTerm. In more detail, I get the Konsole window, the menu is there and I can open other tabs etc, but instead of the command prompt, I just get a small grey blob in the top left hand corner. Hitting return does not get me any carriage returns. XTerm gives me the bouncing icon next to the cursor for a period of time then disappears. UXTerm gives me a small window with the message: "uxterm tried unsuccessfully to use locale en_US.UTF-8 by setting $LC_CTYPE to "en_US.UTF-8. and that's all. I hit the OK button on the window and it all disappears. Last night Konsole was fine, I did the emerge through it, but now nothing. I didn't do revded-rebuild or etc-update as I usually do after a world emerge. Does anyone know what's wrong and how I can get out of this bind. Something without having to resorting to rescue disks would be good but if all else fails. Thanks for any thoughts, Andrew
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole + zsh ctrl-c does not work anymore as expected
Am Samstag, 25. Februar 2012, 21:08:50 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:54:06 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > since upgrading zsh to 4.3.17 I have a problem with Konsole 4.8.0. > > > > ctrl-c does not quit a running program. It ends su -/sux - sessions. > > > > log in as user > > start konsole > > su - > > ping www.google.com > > hit ctrl-c > > su-session quit. user again, ping still running. > > > > Before I open a bug, has anybody else seen this too? > > Yes, but I've no idea when it started as I usually run root sessions in > tmux, where Ctrl-C works as it did with previous zsh releases. as it does with xterm. Or with zsh 4.3.15 I opened a bug and masked 4.3.17 for now. Thank you. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole + zsh ctrl-c does not work anymore as expected
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:54:06 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > since upgrading zsh to 4.3.17 I have a problem with Konsole 4.8.0. > > ctrl-c does not quit a running program. It ends su -/sux - sessions. > > log in as user > start konsole > su - > ping www.google.com > hit ctrl-c > su-session quit. user again, ping still running. > > Before I open a bug, has anybody else seen this too? Yes, but I've no idea when it started as I usually run root sessions in tmux, where Ctrl-C works as it did with previous zsh releases. -- Neil Bothwick Run with scissors. Remove mattress tags. Top post. Be a rebel. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Konsole + zsh ctrl-c does not work anymore as expected
Hello everybody, since upgrading zsh to 4.3.17 I have a problem with Konsole 4.8.0. ctrl-c does not quit a running program. It ends su -/sux - sessions. log in as user start konsole su - ping www.google.com hit ctrl-c su-session quit. user again, ping still running. Before I open a bug, has anybody else seen this too? -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] [konsole] How to run a command, then leave the shell open?
oh Felix had a better answer didn't notice ... ignore mine :). -- -Yohan Pereira
Re: [gentoo-user] [konsole] How to run a command, then leave the shell open?
On Tuesday 21 Feb 2012 18:03:35 Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > How can I combine these two? I would like konsole to run emerge --sync > and then leave a prompt open. Just like what would happen if I did it > all manually. Any ideas? > > Cheers, > Hilco Ok theres probably a better way to do this, but heres goes. create a bash script with what you want to run ie (emerge --sync). now start konsole with konsole with konsole -e /bin/bash --rcfile . alternativly you can create a new konsole profile and add that to the command section and use that profile for this. -- - Yohan Pereira The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and a seal. -- Mark Twain
Re: [gentoo-user] [konsole] How to run a command, then leave the shell open?
On 21 February 2012 18:36, Felix Kuperjans wrote: > Hi Hilco, > > answers and suggestions inline. > > Am 22.02.2012 03:03, schrieb Hilco Wijbenga: >> Hi all, >> >> Every morning I start konsole, type "emerge --sync", and then go do >> other stuff. Some time later I look at the output and usually run >> "emerge ... world". I would like to automate that a bit more. > Just a suggestion: Do you know the porticron script? Combined with a > proper setup of ssmtp, it will sync you portage tree daily (in the > background) and send you an email with all updates, and important > security notes. Thanks, no I did not know about this script. I checked it out but I prefer to kick the sync off myself (syncing really slows down the computer). Besides, I have my own little script that does everything the way I want it. :-) >> I can use kpart to start konsole on a particular desktop so that's >> easy. What I can't seem to get working is the "$SHELL --login" + >> "emerge --sync" part. >> >> If I run "konsole --noclose -e emerge --sync" then I get the output I >> want but I don't get a prompt. If I run "konsole -e $SHELL --login" >> then I get the prompt but, obviously, no emerge output. >> >> How can I combine these two? I would like konsole to run emerge --sync >> and then leave a prompt open. Just like what would happen if I did it >> all manually. Any ideas? > I don't use konsole, but try out: konsole -e $SHELL -c "emerge --sync && > $SHELL --login" Ah, the secret sauce is the quotes. Google had told me not to use quotes. I must have misunderstood. Still, I thought I had tried something like that. Thanks!
Re: [gentoo-user] [konsole] How to run a command, then leave the shell open?
Hi Hilco, answers and suggestions inline. Am 22.02.2012 03:03, schrieb Hilco Wijbenga: > Hi all, > > Every morning I start konsole, type "emerge --sync", and then go do > other stuff. Some time later I look at the output and usually run > "emerge ... world". I would like to automate that a bit more. Just a suggestion: Do you know the porticron script? Combined with a proper setup of ssmtp, it will sync you portage tree daily (in the background) and send you an email with all updates, and important security notes. > I can use kpart to start konsole on a particular desktop so that's > easy. What I can't seem to get working is the "$SHELL --login" + > "emerge --sync" part. > > If I run "konsole --noclose -e emerge --sync" then I get the output I > want but I don't get a prompt. If I run "konsole -e $SHELL --login" > then I get the prompt but, obviously, no emerge output. > > How can I combine these two? I would like konsole to run emerge --sync > and then leave a prompt open. Just like what would happen if I did it > all manually. Any ideas? I don't use konsole, but try out: konsole -e $SHELL -c "emerge --sync && $SHELL --login" > Cheers, > Hilco Regards, Felix
[gentoo-user] [konsole] How to run a command, then leave the shell open?
Hi all, Every morning I start konsole, type "emerge --sync", and then go do other stuff. Some time later I look at the output and usually run "emerge ... world". I would like to automate that a bit more. I can use kpart to start konsole on a particular desktop so that's easy. What I can't seem to get working is the "$SHELL --login" + "emerge --sync" part. If I run "konsole --noclose -e emerge --sync" then I get the output I want but I don't get a prompt. If I run "konsole -e $SHELL --login" then I get the prompt but, obviously, no emerge output. How can I combine these two? I would like konsole to run emerge --sync and then leave a prompt open. Just like what would happen if I did it all manually. Any ideas? Cheers, Hilco
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole question
120130 YoYo Siska wrote: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 07:51:45AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Philip Webb wrote: >>> When an URL appears in a console, it is usually possible to R-click, >>> then choose 'open link' & a browser(-tab) opens for that link. >>> With KDE's Konsole, it opens Konqueror, which I don't usually have running. >>> However, since around KDE 4.7.1 & continuing in 4.8.0 , >>> the version of Konqueror which opens is the file browser, >> I'm running 99.99% stable here so takes that for what it is. >> Here, with Firefox open I run in konsole >> and then right click on the ardour.org link and choose Open Link. >> I get the Ardour web site in the running version of Firefox. >> With Firefox not running KDE/konsole still opens Firefox. That's what happens for me with Terminal, but not with Konsole. > Konsole should open the default browser set in KDE. > You can check that in systemsettings -> Workspace Appearance and Behavior > -> Default Applications -> Web Browser There's no 'Default Applications' in my 'systemsettings'. That mb because I don't have the whole of KDE installed, as I use Fluxbox as my desktop/window manager. The 'Default Applications' setting sb stored somewhere: any idea where ? Anyone else have ideas ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole question
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 07:51:45AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > > When an URL appears in a console, it is usually possible to R-click, > > then choose 'open link' & a browser(-tab) opens for that link. > > With Xfce's Terminal, it opens in a running instance of Firefox. > > With KDE's Konsole, it opens Konqueror, which I don't usually have running. > > > > However, since around KDE 4.7.1 & continuing in 4.8.0 , > > the version of Konqueror which opens is the file browser, > > which I never otherwise use & which is useless for this purpose. > > Clearly, what sb opened is Konqueror in browser mode. > > > > Has anyone else encountered this problem ? > > I've tried to find where the browser to open is configured, but can't. > > Have I missed a setting somewhere or is this a KDE bug I should report ? > > > > -- > > ,, > > SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb > > ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto > > TRANSIT `-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca > > > > > > I'm running 99.99% stable here so takes that for what it is. Here, > with Firefox open I run in konsole > > eix ardour > > and then right click on the ardour.org link and choose Open Link. I > get the Ardour web site in the running version of Firefox. > > With Firefox not running KDE/konsole still opens Firefox. Konsole should open the default browser set in KDE. You can check that in systemsettings -> Workspace Appearance and Behavior -> Default Applications -> Web Browser IIRC some browsers allow you to 'set them as default' somewhere in their menu (usually as an annoying popup at startup, until you disable it ;) which should work with kde.. (at least i think it worked the last time i tested it with chromium... but i mostly set it up manualy) yoyo
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole question
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > When an URL appears in a console, it is usually possible to R-click, > then choose 'open link' & a browser(-tab) opens for that link. > With Xfce's Terminal, it opens in a running instance of Firefox. > With KDE's Konsole, it opens Konqueror, which I don't usually have running. > > However, since around KDE 4.7.1 & continuing in 4.8.0 , > the version of Konqueror which opens is the file browser, > which I never otherwise use & which is useless for this purpose. > Clearly, what sb opened is Konqueror in browser mode. > > Has anyone else encountered this problem ? > I've tried to find where the browser to open is configured, but can't. > Have I missed a setting somewhere or is this a KDE bug I should report ? > > -- > ,, > SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb > ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto > TRANSIT `-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca > > I'm running 99.99% stable here so takes that for what it is. Here, with Firefox open I run in konsole eix ardour and then right click on the ardour.org link and choose Open Link. I get the Ardour web site in the running version of Firefox. With Firefox not running KDE/konsole still opens Firefox. - Mark
[gentoo-user] Konsole question
When an URL appears in a console, it is usually possible to R-click, then choose 'open link' & a browser(-tab) opens for that link. With Xfce's Terminal, it opens in a running instance of Firefox. With KDE's Konsole, it opens Konqueror, which I don't usually have running. However, since around KDE 4.7.1 & continuing in 4.8.0 , the version of Konqueror which opens is the file browser, which I never otherwise use & which is useless for this purpose. Clearly, what sb opened is Konqueror in browser mode. Has anyone else encountered this problem ? I've tried to find where the browser to open is configured, but can't. Have I missed a setting somewhere or is this a KDE bug I should report ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/02/12 22:19, Dale wrote: > Colleen Beamer wrote: >> On 01/02/12 14:42, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Colleen >>> Beamer wrote: On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote: > On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote: >> On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer >>> > wrote: On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> [snip] >>> > Since there were no updates/upgrades immediately prior to this > error, this > could well have been a result of fs corruption, or memory > problems. It > would > make sense to check what smartctl -a /dev/sda shows just in case. I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of? >>> "smartctl -a" asks the hard disk device for diagnostic information. >> Yes, but when I ran 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' it tells me the command isn't >> found. I did a search for this command and it was found in >> /usr/share/bash-completion/ but if I run it (and it is executable to >> owner (root)), using the full path to the command, it tells me the >> command isn't found. I also tried creating a symlink to it in /usr/bin >> and I get the message: >> /usr/bin/smartctl: line 3: have: command not found. >> >> Regards, >> >> Colleen >> > > emerge smartmontools > > then when that is done, do this: > > smartctl -t long /dev/sd > > When you do that, it should print a message that tells when the test > will complete. It is usually a 24 hour format thing too. This can > run while the drive is in use too. Sometime after that time, run this > command: > > smartctl -l selftest /dev/sd > > That should tell you the results of the test. If it says it passed, > this is good. If it reports a problem, well it is not good. If you > are lucky, it will be like a recent problem I had and reformatting > will fix it. It was a weird problem but beats replacing a drive. Thanks, Dale. I'll try this. Don't know if I'll get to it tonight unfortunately, it was back to work to day and I have a bunch of stuff to do tonight. To everyone else, thanks ... I'll keep googling to see if I can figure this out and I'll shout again if I need assistance. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Dienstag, 3. Januar 2012, 11:26:54 schrieb Lorenzo Bandieri: > > emerge smartmontools > > > > then when that is done, do this: > > > > smartctl -t long /dev/sd > > > > When you do that, it should print a message that tells when the test will > > complete. It is usually a 24 hour format thing too. This can run while > > the drive is in use too. Sometime after that time, run this command: > > > > smartctl -l selftest /dev/sd > > > > That should tell you the results of the test. If it says it passed, this > > is good. If it reports a problem, well it is not good. If you are > > lucky, it will be like a recent problem I had and reformatting will fix > > it. It was a weird problem but beats replacing a drive. > > I'm just wondering: can a tool like strace (or similar) be helpul in > diagnose the problem? > Maybe it could detect if konsole is trying to access a file that has > too strict permissions, couldn't it? Just wondering, I never really > used strace. > > Lorenzo a) we allready know where the problem hides - thanks to ~/.xession-errors your first stop when some X based app has problems. b) strace will drown you in output. c) in this case I have my doubts that the output would be helpfull at all (because I strace'd Konsole ;) ) w -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
> emerge smartmontools > > then when that is done, do this: > > smartctl -t long /dev/sd > > When you do that, it should print a message that tells when the test will > complete. It is usually a 24 hour format thing too. This can run while the > drive is in use too. Sometime after that time, run this command: > > smartctl -l selftest /dev/sd > > That should tell you the results of the test. If it says it passed, this is > good. If it reports a problem, well it is not good. If you are lucky, it > will be like a recent problem I had and reformatting will fix it. It was a > weird problem but beats replacing a drive. > I'm just wondering: can a tool like strace (or similar) be helpul in diagnose the problem? Maybe it could detect if konsole is trying to access a file that has too strict permissions, couldn't it? Just wondering, I never really used strace. Lorenzo -- Nothing is interesting if you're not interested.
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/02/12 14:42, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote: On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: [snip] Since there were no updates/upgrades immediately prior to this error, this could well have been a result of fs corruption, or memory problems. It would make sense to check what smartctl -a /dev/sda shows just in case. I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of? "smartctl -a" asks the hard disk device for diagnostic information. Yes, but when I ran 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' it tells me the command isn't found. I did a search for this command and it was found in /usr/share/bash-completion/ but if I run it (and it is executable to owner (root)), using the full path to the command, it tells me the command isn't found. I also tried creating a symlink to it in /usr/bin and I get the message: /usr/bin/smartctl: line 3: have: command not found. Regards, Colleen emerge smartmontools then when that is done, do this: smartctl -t long /dev/sd When you do that, it should print a message that tells when the test will complete. It is usually a 24 hour format thing too. This can run while the drive is in use too. Sometime after that time, run this command: smartctl -l selftest /dev/sd That should tell you the results of the test. If it says it passed, this is good. If it reports a problem, well it is not good. If you are lucky, it will be like a recent problem I had and reformatting will fix it. It was a weird problem but beats replacing a drive. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/02/12 14:42, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Colleen Beamer > wrote: >> On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote: >>> On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer > >>> wrote: >> On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: > [snip] > >>> Since there were no updates/upgrades immediately prior to this error, this >>> could well have been a result of fs corruption, or memory problems. It >>> would >>> make sense to check what smartctl -a /dev/sda shows just in case. >> I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of? > "smartctl -a" asks the hard disk device for diagnostic information. Yes, but when I ran 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' it tells me the command isn't found. I did a search for this command and it was found in /usr/share/bash-completion/ but if I run it (and it is executable to owner (root)), using the full path to the command, it tells me the command isn't found. I also tried creating a symlink to it in /usr/bin and I get the message: /usr/bin/smartctl: line 3: have: command not found. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Montag, 2. Januar 2012, 14:22:05 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > > On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > >>> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my > > >> > > >> suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE > > >> config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that > > >> same issue. > > > > I did create a new user and it didn't help. I've tried every suggestion > > made in this thread to no avail. For example, I changed the group of > > /dev/pts to tty as others indicated that that was what it was supposed > > to be. > > I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group of /dev/pts > to tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted back to > colleen. So how do I fix this? > > > >Regards, > > > > Colleen > > > > -- > > > > Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, > > http://counter.li.org so devfs script is ok and runs on boot. consolekit also runs on boot. You could try and put a devpts line into fstab (please google it, I am too tired right now) -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:59:01 +, Mick wrote: > > /dev/pts is root:root here. The files within it are user:tty, but they > > are neither group readable nor writeable, so the group ownership is > > possibly not that relevant. > > Hmm ... > > They are writeable here (with 1 urxvt running): > > /dev/pts: > total 0 > drwxr-xr-x 2 rootroot 0 Jan 2 22:27 . > drwxr-xr-x 15 rootroot 3960 Jan 2 22:28 .. > crw--w 1 michael tty 136, 0 Jan 2 22:36 0 > crw--w 1 michael tty 136, 1 Jan 2 22:51 1 > > and with without the writeable bit for group when I also fire a konsole: > > $ ls -la /dev/pts > total 0 > drwxr-xr-x 2 rootroot 0 Jan 2 22:27 . > drwxr-xr-x 15 rootroot 3960 Jan 2 22:28 .. > crw--w 1 michael tty 136, 0 Jan 2 22:36 0 > crw--w 1 michael tty 136, 1 Jan 2 22:52 1 > crw--- 1 michael tty 136, 2 Jan 2 22:55 2 > > So, the konsole seems to run with more restrictions than urxvt? Yes. It was the Konsole ptys I was referring to. -- Neil Bothwick Old hitchhikers never die-they just throw in the towel. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Monday 02 Jan 2012 20:56:20 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:22:05 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: > > I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group > > of /dev/pts to tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted > > back to colleen. So how do I fix this? > > /dev/pts is root:root here. The files within it are user:tty, but they > are neither group readable nor writeable, so the group ownership is > possibly not that relevant. Hmm ... They are writeable here (with 1 urxvt running): /dev/pts: total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 rootroot 0 Jan 2 22:27 . drwxr-xr-x 15 rootroot 3960 Jan 2 22:28 .. crw--w 1 michael tty 136, 0 Jan 2 22:36 0 crw--w 1 michael tty 136, 1 Jan 2 22:51 1 and with without the writeable bit for group when I also fire a konsole: $ ls -la /dev/pts total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 rootroot 0 Jan 2 22:27 . drwxr-xr-x 15 rootroot 3960 Jan 2 22:28 .. crw--w 1 michael tty 136, 0 Jan 2 22:36 0 crw--w 1 michael tty 136, 1 Jan 2 22:52 1 crw--- 1 michael tty 136, 2 Jan 2 22:55 2 So, the konsole seems to run with more restrictions than urxvt? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:22:05 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: > I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group > of /dev/pts to tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted > back to colleen. So how do I fix this? /dev/pts is root:root here. The files within it are user:tty, but they are neither group readable nor writeable, so the group ownership is possibly not that relevant. -- Neil Bothwick Religious error: (A)tone, (R)epent, (I)mmolate? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:32:34 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: > I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of? smartmontools -- Neil Bothwick C Error #011: First C Program, huh? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > On 01/02/12 14:27, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Colleen Beamer >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer >>> wrote: On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my >> suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE >> config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that >> same issue. >>> >>> I did create a new user and it didn't help. I've tried every suggestion made in this thread to no avail. For example, I changed the group of /dev/pts to tty as others indicated that that was what it was supposed to be. >>> >>> >>> I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group of /dev/pts >>> to >>> tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted back to colleen. >>> So >>> how do I fix this? >> >> Is the consolekit USE flag enabled on your system? > Yes, it's part of my USE flags in make.conf. I'm not running consolekit here, but I suspect the ownership switching you're seeing relates to either that or policykit (which I note in your kdelibs USE flags). -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote: >> On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote: >>> On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer >> wrote: > On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: [snip] >> Since there were no updates/upgrades immediately prior to this error, this >> could well have been a result of fs corruption, or memory problems. It >> would >> make sense to check what smartctl -a /dev/sda shows just in case. > > I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of? "smartctl -a" asks the hard disk device for diagnostic information. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/02/12 14:27, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer >> wrote: >>> >>> On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> >> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my > suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE > config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that > same issue. >> >> >>> >>> I did create a new user and it didn't help. I've tried every suggestion >>> made in this thread to no avail. For example, I changed the group of >>> /dev/pts to tty as others indicated that that was what it was supposed >>> to be. >> >> >> I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group of /dev/pts to >> tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted back to colleen. So >> how do I fix this? > > Is the consolekit USE flag enabled on your system? Yes, it's part of my USE flags in make.conf. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote: > On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote: >> On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer > wrote: On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: > x > > >> Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? >> >> Regards, >> >> Colleen > > mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts > devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 > mark@c2stable ~ $ > > But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts > wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are > the same which they seem to be...) > > - Mark Thanks all for the suggestions. I'm going to leave this for tonight 'cause I am totally confused Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org >>> >>> On the off chance you missed a post-update message that came from (I >>> think) maybe a dbus update awhile back, try >>> >>> emerge -1 gobject-introspection >>> >>> and then restart dbus and/or reboot to test. >> >> Tried this - all I got was an reinstallation of glibc and it didn't >> solve the problem. > > sys-apps/openrc installs the /etc/init.d/devfs script which as Volker has > explained sets the /dev/pts ownership. > > As long as Coleen has not set up the /devfs in her /etc/fstab a remerge of > openrc followed by a reboot should put things into place. > > Since there were no updates/upgrades immediately prior to this error, this > could well have been a result of fs corruption, or memory problems. It would > make sense to check what smartctl -a /dev/sda shows just in case. I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of? Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer > wrote: >> >> On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > >> >> >>> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my >> >> suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE >> >> config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that >> >> same issue. > > >> >> I did create a new user and it didn't help. I've tried every suggestion >> made in this thread to no avail. For example, I changed the group of >> /dev/pts to tty as others indicated that that was what it was supposed >> to be. > > > I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group of /dev/pts to > tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted back to colleen. So > how do I fix this? Is the consolekit USE flag enabled on your system? -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > >>> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my > >> suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE > >> config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that > >> same issue. > > I did create a new user and it didn't help. I've tried every suggestion > made in this thread to no avail. For example, I changed the group of > /dev/pts to tty as others indicated that that was what it was supposed > to be. > I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group of /dev/pts to tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted back to colleen. So how do I fix this? > >Regards, > > Colleen > > -- > > Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, > http://counter.li.org > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks exactly like the line above. >>> What about fstab? An entry in there could override the openrc setting. >> Good point, but how does that fstab entry appear if she hasn't done >> updates? I suppose she might have been editing in fstab and made a >> mistake? If she was editing she should certainly check it out. I didn't do any edits to fstab - the file was the one I created on the initial install on this computer a couple of months ago - computer is reasonable new. > I suspect Colleen did change something, but it didn't take effect until > a reboot. I've been caught like that before now, make a seemingly > insignificant change then get bitten a few weeks later when I reboot into > a new kernel and blame the kernel. The problem didn't have anything to do with a reboot. I was trying to get MySQL to recognize a database that I had created on my laptop and I was following along with the documentation on the MySQL site. I had konsole open looking for stuff - I copied the database files that I wanted to use in the location of the my.cnf file. I noticed that I didn't have konsole open at one point - thought that I had closed it and when I started it up again, there was no prompt, only the black block cursor. > >> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my >> suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE >> config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that >> same issue. I did create a new user and it didn't help. I've tried every suggestion made in this thread to no avail. For example, I changed the group of /dev/pts to tty as others indicated that that was what it was supposed to be. > > I doubt it will make a difference in this case as it it down to > permissions in /etc, but it never hurts to try. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks > >> exactly like the line above. > > > > What about fstab? An entry in there could override the openrc setting. > Good point, but how does that fstab entry appear if she hasn't done > updates? I suppose she might have been editing in fstab and made a > mistake? If she was editing she should certainly check it out. I suspect Colleen did change something, but it didn't take effect until a reboot. I've been caught like that before now, make a seemingly insignificant change then get bitten a few weeks later when I reboot into a new kernel and blame the kernel. > Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my > suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE > config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that > same issue. I doubt it will make a difference in this case as it it down to permissions in /etc, but it never hurts to try. -- Neil Bothwick Guns don't kill people--it's those little pieces of lead. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 21:44:08 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: > >> > chown for the moment, and look at fstab - is there an entry? If not, >> > /etc/init.d/devfs should do the mounting, does it look like this: >> > "devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts" >> The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks >> exactly like the line above. > > What about fstab? An entry in there could override the openrc setting. > > > -- > Neil Bothwick Good point, but how does that fstab entry appear if she hasn't done updates? I suppose she might have been editing in fstab and made a mistake? If she was editing she should certainly check it out. Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that same issue. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 21:44:08 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: > > chown for the moment, and look at fstab - is there an entry? If not, > > /etc/init.d/devfs should do the mounting, does it look like this: > > "devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts" > The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks > exactly like the line above. What about fstab? An entry in there could override the openrc setting. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 042: Virus error - A virus has been activated in a dos-box. The virus, however, requires Windows. All tasks will automatically be closed and the virus will be activated again. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote: > On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > >> On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: > >>> x > >>> > >>> > Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? > > Regards, > > Colleen > >>> > >>> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts > >>> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 > >>> mark@c2stable ~ $ > >>> > >>> But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts > >>> wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are > >>> the same which they seem to be...) > >>> > >>> - Mark > >> > >> Thanks all for the suggestions. I'm going to leave this for tonight > >> 'cause I am totally confused > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Colleen > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, > >> http://counter.li.org > > > > On the off chance you missed a post-update message that came from (I > > think) maybe a dbus update awhile back, try > > > > emerge -1 gobject-introspection > > > > and then restart dbus and/or reboot to test. > > Tried this - all I got was an reinstallation of glibc and it didn't > solve the problem. sys-apps/openrc installs the /etc/init.d/devfs script which as Volker has explained sets the /dev/pts ownership. As long as Coleen has not set up the /devfs in her /etc/fstab a remerge of openrc followed by a reboot should put things into place. Since there were no updates/upgrades immediately prior to this error, this could well have been a result of fs corruption, or memory problems. It would make sense to check what smartctl -a /dev/sda shows just in case. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 20:18, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 20:05:04 schrieb Colleen Beamer: >> On 01/01/12 19:55, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:40:37 schrieb Michael Mol: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: >> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer >>> >>> wrote: >>> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen >>> Mysterious thread Colleen. >>> >>> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other >>> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? >>> >>> >>> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font >>> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font >>> is being used? >>> >>> Good luck, >>> Mark >> it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. >> >> -- >> #163933 > I tend to agree Volker. > > Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: > > mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ > total 0 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . > drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. > crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 > crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 > crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 > mark@c2stable ~ $ > > Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. Then why would xterm work? >>> because xterm does not touch anything in /dev/pts >>> >>> xterm uses /dev/ptmx >>> konsole uses /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts/X >>> now look at the permissions of ptmx and pts/* >>> >>> ls -lh /dev/ptmx >>> crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2 2. Jan 01:54 /dev/ptmx >>> >>> and for pts I posted above/look at mark's output. Group setting is >>> important. >> Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? > chown for the moment, and look at fstab - is there an entry? If not, > /etc/init.d/devfs should do the mounting, does it look like this: > "devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts" The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks exactly like the line above. > ? > > and what abot /dev/ptmx? > does it look like the line from me or is there some root root stuff going on? > if the later chown that. If I do ls -lh /dev/ptmx, I get this output: crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5,2 Jan 1 21:36 ptmx Regards, Colleen > -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer > wrote: >> On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> x >>> Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? Regards, Colleen >>> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts >>> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 >>> mark@c2stable ~ $ >>> >>> But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts >>> wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are >>> the same which they seem to be...) >>> >>> - Mark >>> >>> >> Thanks all for the suggestions. I'm going to leave this for tonight >> 'cause I am totally confused >> >> Regards, >> >> Colleen >> >> -- >> >> Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org >> >> > On the off chance you missed a post-update message that came from (I > think) maybe a dbus update awhile back, try > > emerge -1 gobject-introspection > > and then restart dbus and/or reboot to test. Tried this - all I got was an reinstallation of glibc and it didn't solve the problem. Thanks, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: >> x >> >>> Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Colleen >> >> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts >> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 >> mark@c2stable ~ $ >> >> But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts >> wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are >> the same which they seem to be...) >> >> - Mark >> >> > Thanks all for the suggestions. I'm going to leave this for tonight > 'cause I am totally confused > > Regards, > > Colleen > > -- > > Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org > > On the off chance you missed a post-update message that came from (I think) maybe a dbus update awhile back, try emerge -1 gobject-introspection and then restart dbus and/or reboot to test. Have a good evening, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote: > x > >>> >> Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? >> >> Regards, >> >> Colleen > > mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts > devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 > mark@c2stable ~ $ > > But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts > wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are > the same which they seem to be...) > > - Mark > > Thanks all for the suggestions. I'm going to leave this for tonight 'cause I am totally confused Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 20:05:04 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > On 01/01/12 19:55, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:40:37 schrieb Michael Mol: > >> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > >>> > >>> wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: > > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer > > > > wrote: > > > >> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to > >> sending > >> my > >> first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. > >> > >> > >> Colleen > > > > Mysterious thread Colleen. > > > > Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other > > things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? > > > > > > Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font > > size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font > > is being used? > > > > Good luck, > > Mark > > it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. > > -- > #163933 > >>> > >>> I tend to agree Volker. > >>> > >>> Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: > >>> > >>> mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ > >>> total 0 > >>> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . > >>> drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. > >>> crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 > >>> crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 > >>> crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 > >>> mark@c2stable ~ $ > >>> > >>> Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. > >> > >> Then why would xterm work? > > > > because xterm does not touch anything in /dev/pts > > > > xterm uses /dev/ptmx > > konsole uses /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts/X > > now look at the permissions of ptmx and pts/* > > > > ls -lh /dev/ptmx > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2 2. Jan 01:54 /dev/ptmx > > > > and for pts I posted above/look at mark's output. Group setting is > > important. > Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? chown for the moment, and look at fstab - is there an entry? If not, /etc/init.d/devfs should do the mounting, does it look like this: "devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts" ? and what abot /dev/ptmx? does it look like the line from me or is there some root root stuff going on? if the later chown that. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
x >> >> > Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? > > Regards, > > Colleen mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 mark@c2stable ~ $ But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are the same which they seem to be...) - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 20:01:04 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > On 01/01/12 19:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:10:25 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > >> On 01/01/12 18:48, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > >> On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > > What happens if you run xterm? > > In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a > command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on > install > I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. > >>> > >>> so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? > >>> Do > >>> you > >>> find anything in .xsession-errors? > >> > >> Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. > >> > >> From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, > >> but > >> I have no idea how to go about fixing this: > >> > >> konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a > >> pseudo > >> teletype > >> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow > >> control status, terminal not connected. > >> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. > > > > Bingo. > > > > well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, > > udev, dbus > > > updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled > > kdelibs? > > > > But this is exactly your problem - google for it. > > No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending > my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. > >>> > >>> is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot? > >> > >> Since my last response, I have checked that /dev/pts is mounted and it > >> is. The console-kit-daemon appears to be running. I checked > >> permissions of /dev/pts - they look okay, but I'm not sure what they > >> should be because I've never had an issue like this before. This is > >> what they are: > >> > >> total 0 > >> drwxr-xr-x 2 rootroot 0 Jan 1 17:06 . > >> drwxr-xr-x 17 rootroot 4680 Jan 1 17:07 .. > >> crw--- 1 colleen colleen 136, 0 Jan 1 19:07 0 > > > > should look like this: > > ls -hl /dev/pts > > insgesamt 0 > > crw--w 1 tty 136, 0 30. Dez 21:37 0 > > crw--- 1tty 136, 1 2. Jan 01:20 1 > > crw--- 1tty 136, 2 1. Jan 21:15 2 > > crw--- 1 tty 136, 3 1. Jan 23:19 3 > > crw--- 1 tty 136, 4 1. Jan 21:31 4 > > > > so the question is, where did it get borked. To clear something up, what > > did you emerge in the time before this happend? Also, useflags for > > kdelibs please. > I didn't emerge anything before this happened. > > Use flags for kdelibs are as follows: > > -3dnow > +acl > +alsa > -bindist > +bzip > -debug > -doc > -fam > +handbook > -jpeg2k > -kerberos > -lzma > +mmx > +nls > -openexr > +opengl > +policykit > -semantic-desktop > -spell > +sse > +sse2 > +ssl > -test > +udev > +udisks > +upower > -zeroconf > > > I also tried googling, but haven't found anything that made any sense to > > me. > > > > try googling pts permissions. > > > > When you cat mtab, do you find something like this: > > /etc/mtab: > > devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 > > > > is the devfs initscript run? does it look ok? > > (having this: > > devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts > > This is the output from "cating" mtab: > > devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,relatime,mode=600 0 0 now compare that with my line. Then find out which script does it to you. Do you have a devpts entry in fstab? Correct it, you are done. And I should have gone to bed 4h ago. Old men need sleep (/me feels older than I am.) -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 19:55, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:40:37 schrieb Michael Mol: >> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann >>> >>> wrote: Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer > > wrote: > >> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending >> my >> first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. >> >> >> Colleen > Mysterious thread Colleen. > > Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other > things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? > > > Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font > size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font > is being used? > > Good luck, > Mark it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. -- #163933 >>> I tend to agree Volker. >>> >>> Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: >>> >>> mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ >>> total 0 >>> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . >>> drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. >>> crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 >>> crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 >>> crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 >>> mark@c2stable ~ $ >>> >>> Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. >> Then why would xterm work? > because xterm does not touch anything in /dev/pts > > xterm uses /dev/ptmx > konsole uses /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts/X > now look at the permissions of ptmx and pts/* > > ls -lh /dev/ptmx > crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2 2. Jan 01:54 /dev/ptmx > > and for pts I posted above/look at mark's output. Group setting is important. > > Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device? Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 19:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:10:25 schrieb Colleen Beamer: >> On 01/01/12 18:48, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: >> On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > What happens if you run xterm? In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. >>> so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do >>> you >>> find anything in .xsession-errors? >> Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. >> >> From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, >> but >> I have no idea how to go about fixing this: >> >> konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo >> teletype >> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow >> control status, terminal not connected. >> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. > Bingo. > > well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, udev, dbus > updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs? > > But this is exactly your problem - google for it. No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. >>> is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot? >> Since my last response, I have checked that /dev/pts is mounted and it >> is. The console-kit-daemon appears to be running. I checked >> permissions of /dev/pts - they look okay, but I'm not sure what they >> should be because I've never had an issue like this before. This is >> what they are: >> >> total 0 >> drwxr-xr-x 2 rootroot 0 Jan 1 17:06 . >> drwxr-xr-x 17 rootroot 4680 Jan 1 17:07 .. >> crw--- 1 colleen colleen 136, 0 Jan 1 19:07 0 >> > > should look like this: > ls -hl /dev/pts > insgesamt 0 > crw--w 1 tty 136, 0 30. Dez 21:37 0 > crw--- 1tty 136, 1 2. Jan 01:20 1 > crw--- 1tty 136, 2 1. Jan 21:15 2 > crw--- 1 tty 136, 3 1. Jan 23:19 3 > crw--- 1 tty 136, 4 1. Jan 21:31 4 > > so the question is, where did it get borked. To clear something up, what did > you emerge in the time before this happend? Also, useflags for kdelibs please. I didn't emerge anything before this happened. Use flags for kdelibs are as follows: -3dnow +acl +alsa -bindist +bzip -debug -doc -fam +handbook -jpeg2k -kerberos -lzma +mmx +nls -openexr +opengl +policykit -semantic-desktop -spell +sse +sse2 +ssl -test +udev +udisks +upower -zeroconf > > > > I also tried googling, but haven't found anything that made any sense to me. > > try googling pts permissions. > > When you cat mtab, do you find something like this: > /etc/mtab: > devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 > > is the devfs initscript run? does it look ok? > (having this: > devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts This is the output from "cating" mtab: rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 proc /proc proc rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0 udev /dev tmpfs rw,nosuid,relatime,size=10240k,mode=755 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,relatime,mode=600 0 0 /dev/sda3 / ext3 rw,noatime,commit=0 0 0 rc-svcdir /lib64/rc/init.d tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=1024k,mode=755 0 0 fusectl /sys/fs/fuse/connections fusectl rw,relatime 0 0 shm /dev/shm tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0 /dev/sda1 /boot ext2 rw 0 0 /dev/sda4 /home ext3 rw,noatime,commit=0 0 0 Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:40:37 schrieb Michael Mol: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > > > wrote: > >> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: > >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending > >>> > my > >>> > first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Colleen > >>> > >>> Mysterious thread Colleen. > >>> > >>> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other > >>> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? > >>> > >>> > >>> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font > >>> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font > >>> is being used? > >>> > >>> Good luck, > >>> Mark > >> > >> it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. > >> > >> -- > >> #163933 > > > > I tend to agree Volker. > > > > Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: > > > > mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ > > total 0 > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . > > drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. > > crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 > > crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 > > crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 > > mark@c2stable ~ $ > > > > Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. > > Then why would xterm work? because xterm does not touch anything in /dev/pts xterm uses /dev/ptmx konsole uses /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts/X now look at the permissions of ptmx and pts/* ls -lh /dev/ptmx crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2 2. Jan 01:54 /dev/ptmx and for pts I posted above/look at mark's output. Group setting is important. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann >> wrote: >>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my > first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. > > > Colleen Mysterious thread Colleen. Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font is being used? Good luck, Mark >>> >>> it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. >>> >>> -- >>> #163933 >>> >> >> I tend to agree Volker. >> >> Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: >> >> mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ >> total 0 >> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . >> drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. >> crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 >> crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 >> crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 >> mark@c2stable ~ $ >> >> Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. > > Then why would xterm work? > > > -- > :wq > Best I can tell here they are created and destroyed as konsole is opened and closed. Open a bunch of konsoles and see for yourself. Possibly konsole is now doing it wrong whereas xterm by itself is doing it right? I dunno much. I dunno nut'un. I just dunno. :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: >> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer >>> wrote: >>> >>> > No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my >>> > first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. >>> > >>> > >>> > Colleen >>> >>> Mysterious thread Colleen. >>> >>> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other >>> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? >>> >>> >>> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font >>> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font >>> is being used? >>> >>> Good luck, >>> Mark >> >> it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. >> >> -- >> #163933 >> > > I tend to agree Volker. > > Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: > > mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ > total 0 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . > drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. > crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 > crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 > crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 > mark@c2stable ~ $ > > Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. Then why would xterm work? -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: >> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer >> wrote: >> >> > No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my >> > first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. >> > >> > >> > Colleen >> >> Mysterious thread Colleen. >> >> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other >> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? >> >> >> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font >> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font >> is being used? >> >> Good luck, >> Mark > > it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. > > -- > #163933 > I tend to agree Volker. Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group: mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 07:55 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 5080 Jan 1 15:07 .. crw--w 1 mark tty 136, 0 Jan 1 09:58 0 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 1 Jan 1 15:23 1 crw--- 1 mark tty 136, 2 Jan 1 16:31 2 mark@c2stable ~ $ Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:10:25 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > On 01/01/12 18:48, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > >> On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > >>> What happens if you run xterm? > >> > >> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a > >> command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install > >> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. > > > > so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do > > you > > find anything in .xsession-errors? > > Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. > > From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, > but > I have no idea how to go about fixing this: > > konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo > teletype > konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow > control status, terminal not connected. > konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. > >>> > >>> Bingo. > >>> > >>> well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, > >> > >> udev, dbus > >> > >>> updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs? > >>> > >>> But this is exactly your problem - google for it. > >> > >> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending > >> my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. > > > > is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot? > > Since my last response, I have checked that /dev/pts is mounted and it > is. The console-kit-daemon appears to be running. I checked > permissions of /dev/pts - they look okay, but I'm not sure what they > should be because I've never had an issue like this before. This is > what they are: > > total 0 > drwxr-xr-x 2 rootroot 0 Jan 1 17:06 . > drwxr-xr-x 17 rootroot 4680 Jan 1 17:07 .. > crw--- 1 colleen colleen 136, 0 Jan 1 19:07 0 > should look like this: ls -hl /dev/pts insgesamt 0 crw--w 1 tty 136, 0 30. Dez 21:37 0 crw--- 1tty 136, 1 2. Jan 01:20 1 crw--- 1tty 136, 2 1. Jan 21:15 2 crw--- 1 tty 136, 3 1. Jan 23:19 3 crw--- 1 tty 136, 4 1. Jan 21:31 4 so the question is, where did it get borked. To clear something up, what did you emerge in the time before this happend? Also, useflags for kdelibs please. > I have rebooted multiple times to no avail. yeah because something sets the permissions wrong. > > I also tried googling, but haven't found anything that made any sense to me. > try googling pts permissions. When you cat mtab, do you find something like this: /etc/mtab: devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 is the devfs initscript run? does it look ok? (having this: devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts ) -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: >> What happens if you run xterm? >>> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a >>> command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install >>> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. >> >> so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you >> find >> anything in .xsession-errors? >> > Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. > > From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but > I have no idea how to go about fixing this: > > konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo > teletype > konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow > control status, terminal not connected. > konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. Since reboots don't fix it, it doesn't sound like a starvation issue. Since your /dev/pts is mounted and seems to have useful permissions, it doesn't sound like a permissions issue. Since xterm works, it *definitely* shouldn't be a permissions issue relating to ptys; I'd expect xterm would have had the same issue. Still, with the error 'Can't open a pseudo teletype', code and activity relating to ptys are where I'd keep looking. If it were me, at this point I'd try running konsole under strace, direct strace's output to a text file, and then grep that file for anything relating to /dev/pts, look at the error codes (or lackthereof, or lack of matching lines), and try figuring things out from there. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 19:01, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > >> >> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my >> first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. >> >> >> Colleen > > Mysterious thread Colleen. > > Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other > things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? > > > Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font > size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font > is being used? Tried this, but it didn't resolve the issue. I also tried re-installing kdelibs, which didn't resolve the issue either. :-( Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer > wrote: > > > No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my > > first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. > > > > > > Colleen > > Mysterious thread Colleen. > > Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other > things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? > > > Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font > size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font > is being used? > > Good luck, > Mark it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 18:48, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer: >> On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: >>> What happens if you run xterm? >> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a >> command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install >> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. > so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do > you > find anything in .xsession-errors? Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but I have no idea how to go about fixing this: konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo teletype konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow control status, terminal not connected. konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. >>> Bingo. >>> >>> well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, >> udev, dbus >> >>> updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs? >>> >>> But this is exactly your problem - google for it. >> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending >> my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. > is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot? > > Since my last response, I have checked that /dev/pts is mounted and it is. The console-kit-daemon appears to be running. I checked permissions of /dev/pts - they look okay, but I'm not sure what they should be because I've never had an issue like this before. This is what they are: total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 rootroot 0 Jan 1 17:06 . drwxr-xr-x 17 rootroot 4680 Jan 1 17:07 .. crw--- 1 colleen colleen 136, 0 Jan 1 19:07 0 I have rebooted multiple times to no avail. I also tried googling, but haven't found anything that made any sense to me. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer > wrote: > >> >> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my >> first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. >> >> >> Colleen > > Mysterious thread Colleen. > > Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other > things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? > > > Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font > size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font > is being used? > > Good luck, > Mark Also, have you tried making a new user, logging that user in for the first time and checking if konsole works correctly? Possibly one of your .kde4 config files got messed up? - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > > No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my > first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. > > > Colleen Mysterious thread Colleen. Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that? Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font is being used? Good luck, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > >> On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > > What happens if you run xterm? > > In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a > command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install > I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. > >>> > >>> so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do > >>> you > >>> find anything in .xsession-errors? > >> > >> Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. > >> > >> From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but > >> I have no idea how to go about fixing this: > >> > >> konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo > >> teletype > >> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow > >> control status, terminal not connected. > >> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. > > > > Bingo. > > > > well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, > > udev, dbus > > > updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs? > > > > But this is exactly your problem - google for it. > > No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending > my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot? -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: >> On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > What happens if you run xterm? In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. >>> >>> so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you >>> find anything in .xsession-errors? >> >> Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. >> >> From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but >> I have no idea how to go about fixing this: >> >> konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo >> teletype >> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow >> control status, terminal not connected. >> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. > > Bingo. > > well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, udev, dbus > updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs? > > But this is exactly your problem - google for it. No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my first message. Will trying googling. Thanks. Colleen > > -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > >>> What happens if you run xterm? > >> > >> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a > >> command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install > >> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. > > > > so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you > > find anything in .xsession-errors? > > Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. > > From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but > I have no idea how to go about fixing this: > > konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo > teletype > konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow > control status, terminal not connected. > konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. Bingo. well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, udev, dbus updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs? But this is exactly your problem - google for it. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > >>> What happens if you run xterm? >> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a >> command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install >> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. > > so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you > find > anything in .xsession-errors? > Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt. >From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but I have no idea how to go about fixing this: konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo teletype konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow control status, terminal not connected. konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer: > > What happens if you run xterm? > > In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a > command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install > I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find anything in .xsession-errors? -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Colleen Beamer wrote: In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. Regards, Colleen Looks like something in Konsole broke. If deleting the config files didn't fix it, I'd try a recompile and see if it helps. Check your USE flags too just in case you notice something there that got changed. Other than that, I'm not sure what else to try. It works here and has been for a good while and I updated yesterday. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 16:15, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: >> On 01/01/12 15:46, Dale wrote: >>> Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen > Beamer wrote: >> On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen >>> Beamer >>> wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen >>> echo $PS1 >>> >>> If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. >>> >>> If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking >>> your configured color scheme. >>> >> First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo >> $PS1, I got >> output. >> >> However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no >> command >> prompt and can't type anything. > First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for > color scheme. > I checked all the color schemes. However, I doubt that it is that. Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation, konsole was working. Now, all I get is a black square where my command prompt should be. Regards, Colleen >>> >>> It sounds like you have the text color and background color set to the >>> same thing. Basically, it's invisible. I would go to Settings at the >>> top then Configure Current Profile. You should be able to change >>> things under the Appearance tab. >> >> It's not this. I have a black block cursor visible in the terminal, >> just no command prompt and I can't type anything in konsole. > > Out-of-left-field thought...did this happen when you upgraded from > 3.0.6 to 3.1.6? I'm wondering if pty support might be broken on your > system due to some configuration issue. > > What happens if you run xterm? > > In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > On 01/01/12 15:46, Dale wrote: >> Colleen Beamer wrote: >>> On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen >> Beamer >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't >>> figure out >>> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything >>> relevant. Any ideas? >>> >>> Thanks and Happy New Year. >>> >>> Colleen >> echo $PS1 >> >> If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. >> >> If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking >> your configured color scheme. >> > First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo > $PS1, I got > output. > > However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no > command > prompt and can't type anything. First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for color scheme. >>> I checked all the color schemes. However, I doubt that it is that. >>> Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database >>> recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation, >>> konsole was working. Now, all I get is a black square where my command >>> prompt should be. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Colleen >>> >>> >> >> It sounds like you have the text color and background color set to the >> same thing. Basically, it's invisible. I would go to Settings at the >> top then Configure Current Profile. You should be able to change >> things under the Appearance tab. > > It's not this. I have a black block cursor visible in the terminal, > just no command prompt and I can't type anything in konsole. Out-of-left-field thought...did this happen when you upgraded from 3.0.6 to 3.1.6? I'm wondering if pty support might be broken on your system due to some configuration issue. What happens if you run xterm? -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 15:46, Dale wrote: > Colleen Beamer wrote: >> On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen >>> Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen > Beamer > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't >> figure out >> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything >> relevant. Any ideas? >> >> Thanks and Happy New Year. >> >> Colleen > echo $PS1 > > If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. > > If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking > your configured color scheme. > First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo $PS1, I got output. However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command prompt and can't type anything. >>> First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for >>> color scheme. >>> >> I checked all the color schemes. However, I doubt that it is that. >> Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database >> recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation, >> konsole was working. Now, all I get is a black square where my command >> prompt should be. >> >> Regards, >> >> Colleen >> >> > > It sounds like you have the text color and background color set to the > same thing. Basically, it's invisible. I would go to Settings at the > top then Configure Current Profile. You should be able to change > things under the Appearance tab. It's not this. I have a black block cursor visible in the terminal, just no command prompt and I can't type anything in konsole. -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen echo $PS1 If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking your configured color scheme. First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo $PS1, I got output. However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command prompt and can't type anything. First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for color scheme. I checked all the color schemes. However, I doubt that it is that. Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation, konsole was working. Now, all I get is a black square where my command prompt should be. Regards, Colleen It sounds like you have the text color and background color set to the same thing. Basically, it's invisible. I would go to Settings at the top then Configure Current Profile. You should be able to change things under the Appearance tab. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 15:08, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Colleen Beamer > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out >> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything >> relevant. Any ideas? > Make a backup of and then delete or rename the konsole config files in: > > ~/.kde4/share/config/konsolerc > ~/.kde4/share/apps/konsole/* > > Maybe something in there got hosed. > > Tried this. Good idea, but it didn't solve the issue. Darn, I *really* thought this would work! :-) Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen Beamer > wrote: >> On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer >>> wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen >>> echo $PS1 >>> >>> If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. >>> >>> If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking >>> your configured color scheme. >>> >> First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo $PS1, I got >> output. >> >> However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command >> prompt and can't type anything. > First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for color scheme. > I checked all the color schemes. However, I doubt that it is that. Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation, konsole was working. Now, all I get is a black square where my command prompt should be. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > Hi, > > I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out > how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything > relevant. Any ideas? Make a backup of and then delete or rename the konsole config files in: ~/.kde4/share/config/konsolerc ~/.kde4/share/apps/konsole/* Maybe something in there got hosed.
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 14:48, Dale wrote: > Colleen Beamer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out >> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything >> relevant. Any ideas? >> >> Thanks and Happy New Year. >> >> Colleen >> > > > Hmmm, are you talking some custom setup using 'PS1=' sort of thing? That is in: > > /etc/bash/bashrc > > For reference, I have this: > > PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u@\h \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]' > > and that gives me this: > > root@fireball / # > > The path is shown but I am at /. That works the same on a console as it does on a Konsole. Is that what you are talking about? If it is, here is some neato info: > > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/ > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > P. S. Happy New Year ma'am. > I can't type anything in the konsole window (in KDE). When I exit kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 and type echo $PS1, I get output similar to what you have posted above (PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u@\h \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]' ). I don't recall exactly what my output is because the only way I can get a command prompt is by exiting kde. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling konsole to no avail. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out >>> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything >>> relevant. Any ideas? >>> >>> Thanks and Happy New Year. >>> >>> Colleen >> >> echo $PS1 >> >> If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. >> >> If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking >> your configured color scheme. >> > First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo $PS1, I got > output. > > However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command > prompt and can't type anything. First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for color scheme. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out >> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything >> relevant. Any ideas? >> >> Thanks and Happy New Year. >> >> Colleen > > echo $PS1 > > If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. > > If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking > your configured color scheme. > First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo $PS1, I got output. However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command prompt and can't type anything. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Colleen Beamer wrote: Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen Hmmm, are you talking some custom setup using 'PS1=' sort of thing? That is in: /etc/bash/bashrc For reference, I have this: PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u@\h \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]' and that gives me this: root@fireball / # The path is shown but I am at /. That works the same on a console as it does on a Konsole. Is that what you are talking about? If it is, here is some neato info: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/ Dale :-) :-) P. S. Happy New Year ma'am. -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer wrote: > Hi, > > I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out > how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything > relevant. Any ideas? > > Thanks and Happy New Year. > > Colleen echo $PS1 If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc. If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking your configured color scheme. -- :wq
[gentoo-user] Konsole issue
Hi, I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything relevant. Any ideas? Thanks and Happy New Year. Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] konsole refresh laggardly
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > don't use compiz. > > i know that is the last option. but, since i did not have this issue before, even with compiz enabled, i think there should be some way to fix it. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] konsole refresh laggardly
On Sonntag 02 Mai 2010, Xi Shen wrote: > hi, > > my system is gentoo amd64, kd 4.3, compiz. i just updated the world. > in konsole, no matter if the system is busy or not, the screen do not > refresh sometimes. i will have to move the window, or select some > content in the konsole to force it refresh. > > my graphic card is nvidia. i did not have this problem before. don't use compiz.
[gentoo-user] konsole refresh laggardly
hi, my system is gentoo amd64, kd 4.3, compiz. i just updated the world. in konsole, no matter if the system is busy or not, the screen do not refresh sometimes. i will have to move the window, or select some content in the konsole to force it refresh. my graphic card is nvidia. i did not have this problem before. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors
I'm gonna guess that's a difference between plasma and LCD displays. ++ kevin On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:01 AM, Peter Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 01 April 2008 14:25:56 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > > > One of the things I don't like about black background is that on all > > monitors the background seems to "crowd" the glyphs -- the markings > seems > > more slender than when the colors are reversed. > > That's odd - I get exactly the converse impression - black lettering on > white is less easy to pick out. > > On the other hand, my eyes always have been a bit strange. > > -- > Rgds > Peter > -- > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors
On Tuesday 01 April 2008 14:25:56 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > One of the things I don't like about black background is that on all > monitors the background seems to "crowd" the glyphs -- the markings seems > more slender than when the colors are reversed. That's odd - I get exactly the converse impression - black lettering on white is less easy to pick out. On the other hand, my eyes always have been a bit strange. -- Rgds Peter -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors
On Tuesday 01 April 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > One of the things I don't like about black background is that on all > monitors > the background seems to "crowd" the glyphs -- the markings seems more > slender than when the colors are reversed. With small fonts (I like > high resolution settings for other reasons), this makes the lettering > hard to read. If you were using an oldish crt I would suggest that is "blooming" - lots of white in the picture increase electron beam current which enlarges the picture somewhat. Black backgrounds are in reverse. But you are seeing this on lcds as well, so it looks like an "optical illusion", like the old favourite of which line is longer: <-> >-< Dunno what one can do about that it, it comes down to how the brain decodes the signals on the optic nerve... > > You seem to know what to do in most cases and how to achieve it, so > > I don't know if my favourite colour schemes will help you much. > > However, have you considered an eye test for colour sensitivity? A > > large number of males are under-sensitive to certain colours and > > it's apparently hard for the person to detect it in themselves. > > I'm glad it seems so, since I teach computer science at the > university level. :o) > But I was hoping to get samples and suggestions of how others have > dealt with this. I've been muttering under my breath about this for > a few years now and I thought it likely that others may have taken > action. > > As for vision: I have such an exam yearly. I always see the numerals > in their > samples, and nobody's ever mentioned color insensitivity. > Nevertheless, it's possible it's vision-related since it works this > way for me on all monitors, and > in my work I see a lot of monitors. Me too, and to me they all look more or less the same :-) In my case, I have 7 years worth of fixing the things and critically examining the display quality when calibrating and adjusting them. I've developed an automatic gain control in my head that compensates for differences :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 31 March 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > > I've always used Linux Colours, on crt and on lcd displays. Contrast > > works fine for me. What display device do you use? > > > > > > What do you mean about contrast? > > > > My gentoo is using a Westinghouse flat screen with mid-range > > brightness and contrast. > > My question could have been clearer, I meant that the relative contrast > between fore and background colours using Linux Colours is OK so I can > see grey on black fine, and the difference between a colour and the > same one bold is also obvious. > > I've used some cheaper crts that were just gross, and in the past found > that the quality of LCDs were highly variable and mostly unrelated to > price (this seems to have settled now though). > One of the things I don't like about black background is that on all monitors the background seems to "crowd" the glyphs -- the markings seems more slender than when the colors are reversed. With small fonts (I like high resolution settings for other reasons), this makes the lettering hard to read. > > You seem to know what to do in most cases and how to achieve it, so I > don't know if my favourite colour schemes will help you much. However, > have you considered an eye test for colour sensitivity? A large number > of males are under-sensitive to certain colours and it's apparently > hard for the person to detect it in themselves. > I'm glad it seems so, since I teach computer science at the university level. :o) But I was hoping to get samples and suggestions of how others have dealt with this. I've been muttering under my breath about this for a few years now and I thought it likely that others may have taken action. As for vision: I have such an exam yearly. I always see the numerals in their samples, and nobody's ever mentioned color insensitivity. Nevertheless, it's possible it's vision-related since it works this way for me on all monitors, and in my work I see a lot of monitors. ++ kevin > > -- > Alan McKinnon > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > > -- > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors
On Monday 31 March 2008, 19:55, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > I found that man page singularly unhelpful. It lists colors and > defaults, but not a word about syntax, (from that man page) SYNTAX VARIABLE = [space delimited list of attributes] > and no mention of other ways of specifying colors (the gentoo > tips page suggests that ASCII sequences can be used there, but gives > only cryptic information about how that might > be done. The man page provides the list of variables and attributes that can be used. Basically, the variable defines the message type (BAD, INFORM, GOOD, etc) and the attributes define how to display the text for that variable (basically, fg and bg color, and other attributes like underlined, blinking, bold, etc.). -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors
Kevin O'Gorman schrieb: On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Etaoin Shrdlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 29 March 2008, 17:30, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Does anyone have a suggestion? You can remap the colors used by portage. man color.map -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I found that man page singularly unhelpful. It lists colors and defaults, but not a word about syntax, and no mention of other ways of specifying colors (the gentoo tips page suggests that ASCII sequences can be used there, but gives only cryptic information about how that might be done. ++ kevin I have something like this in my color.map: yellow=fuchsia #This maps yellow to fuchsia WARN=fuchsia #Warnings are now in fuchsia instead of yellow MERGE_LIST_PROGRESS=fuchsia #Dito Instead of fuchsia you can use it's hex-value 0xFF55FF. The colors and the hex equivalents are all defined in /usr/lib/portage/pym/output.py where you can look them up! For a good explaination of ANSI color codes and escape sequences you may look here [1]! [1] http://linuxfocus.org/English/May2004/article335.shtml Regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors
On Monday 31 March 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > I've always used Linux Colours, on crt and on lcd displays. Contrast > works fine for me. What display device do you use? > > > What do you mean about contrast? > > My gentoo is using a Westinghouse flat screen with mid-range > brightness and contrast. My question could have been clearer, I meant that the relative contrast between fore and background colours using Linux Colours is OK so I can see grey on black fine, and the difference between a colour and the same one bold is also obvious. I've used some cheaper crts that were just gross, and in the past found that the quality of LCDs were highly variable and mostly unrelated to price (this seems to have settled now though). You seem to know what to do in most cases and how to achieve it, so I don't know if my favourite colour schemes will help you much. However, have you considered an eye test for colour sensitivity? A large number of males are under-sensitive to certain colours and it's apparently hard for the person to detect it in themselves. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Etaoin Shrdlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 29 March 2008, 17:30, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > > > Does anyone have a suggestion? > > You can remap the colors used by portage. > man color.map > -- > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list > > I found that man page singularly unhelpful. It lists colors and defaults, but not a word about syntax, and no mention of other ways of specifying colors (the gentoo tips page suggests that ASCII sequences can be used there, but gives only cryptic information about how that might be done. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 29 March 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > > I've got a problem with the colors that are used in Gentoo stuff. > > I run KDE, and my terminals are generally konsoles. > > The colors used by portage, ls and vim always seem to have > > portions that are unreadable because of low contrast -- the > > text blends into the background. > > > > I've tried different konsole schemata, and find that different things > > work for different purposes, but there's no one schema that I > > can just leave in place and forget. > > > > I use 'light paper' for starters. The 'linux colors' scheme is good > > for some things, but I the darker colors don't show up well on it > > (blue in particular), and I pretty much avoid dark backgrounds > > when I can because I think they're depressing and they give > > me eyestrain. > > I've always used Linux Colours, on crt and on lcd displays. Contrast > works fine for me. What display device do you use? > What do you mean about contrast? My gentoo is using a Westinghouse flat screen with mid-range brightness and contrast. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors
On Saturday 29 March 2008, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > I've got a problem with the colors that are used in Gentoo stuff. > I run KDE, and my terminals are generally konsoles. > The colors used by portage, ls and vim always seem to have > portions that are unreadable because of low contrast -- the > text blends into the background. > > I've tried different konsole schemata, and find that different things > work for different purposes, but there's no one schema that I > can just leave in place and forget. > > I use 'light paper' for starters. The 'linux colors' scheme is good > for some things, but I the darker colors don't show up well on it > (blue in particular), and I pretty much avoid dark backgrounds > when I can because I think they're depressing and they give > me eyestrain. I've always used Linux Colours, on crt and on lcd displays. Contrast works fine for me. What display device do you use? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, Gentoo and colors
On Saturday 29 March 2008, 17:30, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > Does anyone have a suggestion? You can remap the colors used by portage. man color.map -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
